From:    "bob cunning" <rcun9703@bigpond.net.au>   Add to Address Book

Date:    Wed, 12 May 2004 16:26:57 +1000

To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Subject:            [Cryan et al.] Fw: CREON or CRYAN

Hello from Melbourne.I have been searching for

many years and now am asking your help.

 

My relative is shown as Catherine CRYAN, but on

her marriage Cert. it is CREON. Father Paul, a

farmer. Mother Winifred (nee Lonsey), place of birth

Roscommon. DOB circa 1838

 

It is said that the family migrated to USA when

Catherine was 'little'. This may be true as her

death Cert shows birthplace as Maysville Kentucky.

A Grand Aunt always said that Catherine was

Irish. Catherine married Charles WELCH in Melbourne in

1855.

 

I do hope someone can assist me. Cheers, Bob.

Date:    Wed, 12 May 2004 18:46:37 -0700 (PDT)

From:      "edna fuller" <fuller_edna@yahoo.com>   Add to Address Book

Subject:            Re: [Cryan et al.] crehan

To:        "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>

 

Hi Nancy,

 

No relation to my Cryan's.  Idon't recognize any

of

these names.

 

Don't give up keep trying

 

Edna Fuller

--- Caoimhghin O Croidheain

<caoimhghin@yahoo.com>

wrote:

>                         From:

>                               "Nancy Fiore"

> <nancy_fiore@yahoo.com>      Re: [Cryan et al.]

> crehan

>                         

>                       Hello.

>

>                         Is anyone familiar with

any

> Crean family that  married  a Bonaparte or

other

> French family?

>

>                      My relative is Napoleon

> Bonaparte

> Crean.  Many   Bonapartes lived in England and

also

> in

> Waterford  and    Dublin.  Does anyone know

about

> who

> these  Bonapartes married that might be Irish?

>

>                       His wife was Ann, maybe

Ann

> Lewis.  Their   children   were Charles,

William,

> Catharine, James, Thomas,   Anne.

>

>                       Any help would be greatly

> appreciated.

>

>                       Nancy

>

>                       [sorry for delay Nancy-

> caoimhghin]

>

>

>         

>                     

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> Post it here: Cryan-L@rootsweb.com

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Subject:            Cryan Questions

From:    "Dermot M Cryan" <dcryan@metlife.com>   Add to Address Book

Date:    Tue, 25 May 2004 13:32:13 -0400

 

 

Kevin, allow me to introduce myself.  I am Dermot Cryan and I am part of the tree that Peter Cryan is perhaps tracing - he is a first cousin of my dad (he is listed as Peter Cryan, "Ave Maria",43 Braemor Rd, Churchtown Dublin 14).  I am trying to do my own research although I live in the U.S. and would be very interested in getting copies of the information that you have already gathered - would it be possible to get copies/ jpeg versions or is this a box full of information that requires on-site work, in which case I'd love to get together with you next time I am home to do a little research.  I don't have an e-mail address for Peter - has he perhaps pursued analyzing some of the info separately?  I think you met my Dad once.  He lives at Killumod crossroads on the Elphin Carrick on Shannon road.

bob cunning" <rcun9703@bigpond.net.au>   Add to Address Book

Date:    Tue, 8 Jun 2004 13:23:19 +1000

To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Subject:            [Cryan et al.] Fw: Catherine Cryan

 

 

Hello from Australia. I am trying to find

relatives of Catherine who came to Australia in 1854. I

have been hampered because on various documents,

her name is shown as CREON/CRANE/CRYAN and even

CRYING

 

Her Death Cert. says that she was born in Mason

County, Maysville, Kentucky, but her Marriage

Cert. shows her birth place as  Roscommon Co. I am

also on the Rosscommon List

 

Any help here would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers, Bob in Melbourne.

Wed, 30 Jun 2004 18:10:29 -0400

From:    probartending@juno.com   Add to Address Book

To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Subject:            [Cryan et al.] Crohan

 

Hi,

Anyone have any Crohans from Dingle? I have more

info.

 

Thanks, Mary

 

 

 

 

 

Wed, 30 Jun 2004 18:10:29 -0400

From: probartending@juno.com  Add to Address Book

To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Subject: [Cryan et al.] Crohan

 

   

Hi,

Anyone have any Crohans from Dingle? I have more

info.

 

Thanks, Mary

 

 

From: Voltene@aol.com  Add to Address Book

Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2004 15:36:23 EDT

To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Subject: [Cryan et al.] John P.Cryan of Lowell, MA

 

   

Found the following article in a local

newspaper...

 

Lowell Sunday Telegram (Lowell, MA)  May 15, 1933

 

 

PEOPLE YOU KNOW

 

One who will be a participant and who is doing

his utmost to make the State

Department of Spanish-American War Veterans

convention here on June 9, 10, 11,

a great success is John P. Cryan, born here April

14, 1874.  Mr. Cryan has

made Lowell his home throughout his life, and in

the public schools of the city

his preliminary education was obtained.

 

After leaving school, the mills of the city

became his place of employment

until 1897,  The declaration of war by the United

States against Spain in 1898

found him in New York.  Hurrying to his home

city, he enlisted in Company G

Sixth Massachussetts Infantry and was detailed to

Camp Alger in Falls Church, VA

and from there he was sent to Porto Rico with the

command.

 

At the close of the war following his honorable

discharge, Mr. Cryan returned

to Lowell and opened a store on Broadway which

continued for several years. 

While in that endeavor he had charge of the

distribution of the Sunday

Telegram in that community and had a squad of

youngsters under his direction in that

duty.

 

Mr. Cryan then took up the vocation of a

travelling salesman, also was

employed by the Turner Centre Creamery for years

following its establishment here,

and during the World War was fixer foreman of the

Capping department in the

plant of the United State Cartridge company. 

After the armistace, Mr. Cryan

resumed his duties as travelling salesman for a

Boston food broker.

 

For a long period he was greatly interested in

adult education, being

president of the Morgan club composed of students

of the University Extension

Division of the State Department of Education

which was the prime mover in having the

largest classes of adult students ever assembled

in this city for the study

of salesmanship, public speaking and advertising.

 

A Democratic candidate for representative in the

14th district last fall, he

is a member of the Democratic city committee and

of the executive committee of

Ward 4.  Other organizations and groups that

claim him as an energetic and

interested member are the following:  Past

commander of the General Adelbert

Ames Camp 19, Spanish War Veterans;  clerk of the

committee of Butler Memorial

committee of the Centennial year; past counsellor

of Lowell council of the

United Commercial Travellers of America and

secretary-treasurer for the past 16

years; was member of the first board of directors

of the C.Y.M.L. of St.

Patrick's church parish and served on that board

for three years; and is member of the

committee for the observance of Memorial Day this

year, representing General

Adelbert Ames camp 19.

 

With the resumption of business activities in

various lines of industry, Mr.

Cryan looks forward to resuming his duties as a

travelling salesman from which

he has been suspended for a period.

 

A hobby of his yet is adult education along lines

that will make the

individual a better citizen.

 

The 25th anniversary of his marriage to Miss Anna

G. O'Reilly of this city

was observed by them in September last.  They

have 9 children, seven boys and

two girls, all of whom are living; James, Frank,

Arthur who is married and

resides in New York; John P. Jr., Catherine,

Alleen, Thomas, Paul and Gerald.  The

family home is at 59 Temple St.

 

 

--- 

Karen (Murphy) Hickey

Nashua, NH

From: "Bob Cunning" <rcun9703@bigpond.net.au>  Add to Address Book

Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2004 22:06:05 +1000

To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Subject: [Cryan et al.] : CREON or CRYAN

 

   

 

 Hello from Melbourne.I have been searching for

many years and now am

asking your help.

 

 My relative is shown as Catherine CRYAN, but on

her marriage Cert. it is

CREON. Father Paul, a farmer. Mother Winifred

(nee Lonsey), place of birth

Roscommon. DOB circa 1838

 

It is said that the family migrated to USA when

Catherine was 'little'.

This  may be true as her death Cert shows

birthplace as Maysville Kentucky.

A  Grand Aunt always said that Catherine was

Irish. Catherine married

Charles

 WELCH in Melbourne in 1855.

 

I do hope someone can assist me

 

. Cheers, Bob.

 

 

From: "Leslie Poche" <fivecents.mom@verizon.net>  View Contact Details 

Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2004 11:17:33 -0400

To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Subject: [Cryan et al.] Early Crean link?

 

   

Please see the message below recently sent to me:

 

 

 

----- Original Message -----

From: "Donald Patterson" <dpatter98@cox.net>

To: <cryan-l-request@rootsweb.com>

Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2004 1:05 AM

Subject: Any link?

 

 

> In my working on my ATKINSON ancestry  I find

reference to a Capt.

> Charles ATKINSON who migrated  from Yorkshire

to a middle county

> in Ireland in circa 1611, His son, Andrew

ATKINSON , in circa 1645

> married a Jean CREAN, dau of Ambrose CREAN,

said to have been

> the Earl of Sligo.  Donald  Patterson

>

> 

 

From: "Stephen Morrison" <morrison@evemail.net>  Add to Address Book

Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2004 15:26:28 +0100

To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Subject: [Cryan et al.] Stephen Crean

 

   

Stephen Crean,  my great- uncle,  was born in

Wales in 1857.  His parents were Irish immigrants

and he was the eldest child in a growing family. 

His father was a mason i.e. a bricklayer and times

were obviously difficult. In spite of this,  he

became an accomplished cornet player and,  in

1879,  he emigrated to New York, and,  on one

occasion at the age of 23,  played a solo in Central

Park, New York.  He went on to have an exceptional

career as a soloist cornet player.

 

Later on,  he moved to Cook County,  Chicago, 

and married a French lady named Stella. I don't

know her surname.  I believe that on 9/20/1913 he

was shot and killed by his business partner.  I was

told much of this by my mother,  who had a great

affection for her Uncle Steve, so much so that

she named me after him.

I have,  for a long time now,  sought information

on my namesake. As many of you know that,  when

investigating your past,  people can become not

exactly flesh and blood, but  tend  to take on

shape and form.  I often think of this newly- arrived

young man playing his cornet in Central Park, and

I would dearly like to know what happened on the

9/20/1913.

 

If anyone can assist me I would be most grateful.

 

Steve                      Stephen Crean Morrison

 

Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2004 10:35:03 -0700 (PDT)

From:  "Nancy Fiore" <nancy_fiore@yahoo.com>  Add to Address Book

To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Subject: [Cryan et al.] Creans from Sligo, Bishop Crean, Bonaparte-Crean

 

   

Hello!

>

> My mother, Rita Crean Oster, says that we are

> originally from Sligo.  We have a Bishop Crean

in

the

> family, and also a Napoleon Bonaparte Crean who

> married Ann ? (possibly Lewis).

>

> Do you know of the Bishop Crean family or the

> Bonaparte family that married a Crean?

>

> You may pass this information to anyone looking

for

> these people.

>

> Thanks so much!

>

> Nancy Fiore

> near Chicago, Illinois, USA

 

From: "Bob Cunning" <rcun9703@bigpond.net.au>  Add to Address Book

Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 01:44:22 +1000

To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Subject: [Cryan et al.] Catherine Cryan

 

   

 

 

 

 

 

Hello from Australia. I am trying to find

relatives of Catherine who came

to  Australia in 1854. I have been hampered

because on various documents,

her name is shown as CREON/CRANE/CRYAN and even

CRYING

 

Her Death Cert. says that she was born in Mason

County, Maysville,

Kentucky,  but her Marriage Cert. shows her birth

place as  Roscommon Co. I

am also

on  the Rosscommon List

 

Any help here would be greatly appreciated.

 

Cheers, Bob in Melbourne.

Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2004 21:29:52 -0500

From: "AnnF" <fountaam@141.com>  Add to Address Book

To: caoimhghin@yahoo.com

Subject: Cryan genealogy

 

   

Hi.

 

I'm a great-granddaughter of Matthew J. Cryan,

who was supposed to have

come over from Ireland around 1885 (haven't found

out exactly when yet).

  His parents were supposed to be Thomas Cryan

and Ann Duignan (sp?).

And he was supposed to live in Frenchlawn,

Roscommon, IRE.  I have heard

from family stories that there were supposed to

be about 6 kids, but I

don't know the names, only that at least one was

a girl. Only Matthew

was supposed to have come to the US, in

childhood, but I don't know if

the parents came with him. Any insight you might

have would be

appreciated.

 

Also, I have pictures of Mary Cryan my gr-aunt

with a Sister M. Germaine

Cryan - who I've seen in US Censuses in the

Kalamazoo area around 1920

but am not sure if she was a relation.  And also

a picture of Mary with

Father Basil Cryan and his sister (no name given

on the back of the

photo).  I'm not sure how/if he was related.

 

:)

Ann Fountain

Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2004 22:04:09 -0500

From: "AnnF" <fountaam@141.com>  Add to Address Book

To: caoimhghin@yahoo.com, johnc@fox.com, ckohnke1@msn.com

Subject: Cryan Roscommon Search

 

   

Saw your e-mails listed as people researching

Cryans in Roscommon Cty.

I was wondering if any of you are looking into

Thomas Cryan and Ann

Duignan possibly from Frenchlawn, Roscommon.  

There were supposed to be

6 children, at least 1 that became a priest, and

at least one was a

daughter.  My ancestor is the son Matthew who

emmigrated to Michigan.

 

:)

Ann

From: "Bob Cunning" <rcun9703@bigpond.net.au>  Add to Address Book

Date: Sun, 29 Aug 2004 01:49:00 +1000

To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Subject: [Cryan et al.] Fw: CREON or CRYAN

 

   

 Hello from Melbourne.I have been searching for

many years and now am

 asking your help.

 

 My relative is shown as Catherine CRYAN, but on

her marriage Cert. it is

CREON. Father Paul, a farmer. Mother Winifred

(nee Lonsey), place of birth

Roscommon. DOB circa 1838

 

It is said that the family migrated to USA when

Catherine was 'little'.

 

This  may be true as her death Cert shows

birthplace as Maysville Kentucky.

 

A  Grand Aunt always said that Catherine was

Irish. Catherine married

Charles   WELCH in Melbourne in 1855.

 

I am also on Roscommon and the appropriate US

lists.

 

 I do hope someone can assist me. Cheers, Bob.

 

From: "Bob Cunning" <rcun9703@bigpond.net.au>  Add to Address Book

Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 08:59:15 +1000

To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Subject: [Cryan et al.] Fw: Catherine Cryan

 

   

 

Hello from Australia. I am trying to find

relatives of Catherine who came

to  Australia in 1854. I have been hampered

because on various documents

here, her name is shown as CREON/CRANE/CRYAN and

even CRYING

 

My problem is that I have no idea of Catherine's

maiden name, age, or place

of birth. Here are the conflicting Certificates

all isuued in Australia

where she married an Englishman:

 

Marriage Cert. 1855    Age shown 21 ie born C

1834

                                 Maiden Name   

CREON

                                  Father             

Paul

                                  Mother             

Winifred ( Lonsey)

                                  Born Roscommon

Co.

 

Son's Birth Cert 1877    Age 40 ie born C 1837

                                  Maiden Name   

CRYAN

                                   Born Mayswell

Kentucky USA

 

Death Cert 1907            Age 69 ie born Circa

1838

                                    Maiden Name   

CRANE

                                    Father               

Paul

                            Mother Winifred

(Lawrence)

                     Born Maysville Mason

Co.Kentucky

 

So, there you have all the data that I have. I

suspect that she lied about

her age when married as she was probably only

17/18. The other 2 Certs

indicate her birth as 1837/8

 

If you have any ideas/suggestions, these would be

greatly welcomed. I am

also on th Roscommon list, Kentugky census look

up list and Mason County

list

 

Cheers, Bob

 

From: "Ali Crehan Feeney" <crehan@comcast.net>  Add to Address Book

Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 11:52:35 -0400

To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Subject: [Cryan et al.] I'm stuck! Any bright ideas?

 

   

Fellow researchers,

 

I'm hoping you won't mid this little email asking

for help, because I've hit

a brick wall and my head hurts. Add to that the

fact that my desktop crashed

and burned and took out all my genealogy files,

and you've got a sad little

genealogical spelunker on your hands.

 

Here are the bricks that make up my wall:

 

My great-grandfather, James Crehan, was born

~1861. Family history says he

was born in Hingham, MA, but I am unable to

locate a birth record for him,

though I have located birth records for siblings

before and after him in

Hingham.

 

I have located a marriage certificate for him,

and a newspaper article about

his wedding. (I will send the text of this

article to the list under

separate email)

 

Family history also says that James left his wife

and children shortly after

the birth of my grandfather in 1901; my aunt

knows nothing of where he went,

only that it was "away" and that he was never

heard from again. However,

I've located Hingham's List of Persons Assessed a

Poll Tax records, a yearly

publication - and James appears on that list

until 1909, much to my aunt's

astonishment.

 

I've located the gravestone of my great-great

grandparents; James is not

listed on it.

 

I have no idea how to figure out when James died,

and where. He's my little

mystery, and if I could just get some more

documentation on him I think I

could put a few more pieces together,

 

Any thoughts, bright ideas, flashes of

inspiration or shots in the dark?

They'd all be appreciated!!

 

~ Ali

 

p.s. - I do, of course, have hard copies of

everything that was on my

computer - I'm just frustrated at the thought of

having to recreate my

lovely and helpful database from scratch. Ugh.

From: "Ali Crehan Feeney" <crehan@comcast.net>  Add to Address Book

Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 12:00:34 -0400

To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Subject: [Cryan et al.] Crehan-Lowry (Newspaper article/announcement, Hingham Journal)

 

   

The Hingham Journal, Vol XXXX, No. 6, page 1.

Issue dated February 8, 1889.

 

CREHAN-LOWRY

 

Last Sunday afternoon, at the residence of Rev.

Fr. Gerald Fagan, Mr. James

H. Crehan, the popular proprietor of one of the

carriage stands at the

railroad station, was united in marriage to Miss

Belle Lowry, daughter of

the late William Lowry. Mr. Thomas L. Crehan,

brother of the groom, acted as

groomsman, and Miss Katie A. Fee as bridesmaid.

After the ceremony a

reception was held at the residence of the

bride's mother on Williams

street, Hingham Centre, to which only immediate

relatives of the groom and

bride were invited. At the conclusion of the

reception, Mr. and Mrs. Crehan

proceeded to their new home on North street, near

the corner of Ship street.

 

 

Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 16:52:57 -0400 (Eastern Standard Time)

From: "Maureen McCourt Nantista" <mornan@optonline.net>  Add to Address Book

To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Subject: [Cryan et al.] Re: I'm stuck! Any bright ideas?

 

   

Hello Ali,

 

    I've found your grandfather James H. Crehan

in the 1910 census in

Hingham with his wife Isabella L. and their eight

children - the youngest is

Herbert 8 yrs. old. James' age  is 47 and he's a

railroad flagman.

   

    James H. and Isabella are also in the 1900

census, again in Hingham,

with seven children and James' father Lawrence, a

widower, in the household.

James is 38 and a carriage driver. Lawrence, who

is 66 and a gardener, was

born in Ireland in Oct. 1833 and came to the US

in 1851. James birth is

given as Aug. 1861, and Isabella's as April 1862.

 

    The 1880 census has Lawrence Crehan 44 a

laborer, wife Catherine 46 and

their seven children. James H. is 18 and his

occupation is servant.

 

    I haven't been able to locate James in the

1920 or 1930 censuses, so it

s likely he either died or disappeared in this

time frame.

 

    Hope this brightens your day a bit. I'll

attempt sending the documents

to you off-list since they will be attachments.

 

Maureen Nantista

Huntington, NY

   

From: "Matt&Crystal Hamel" <mchamel@hotmail.com>  Add to Address Book

Date: Fri, 01 Oct 2004 22:03:49 +0000

To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Subject: [Cryan et al.] Michael Crean

 

   

Can anyone tell me how to obtain birth

information for Michael Crean born

February 8, 1854 in Castlegar by Galway?

 

Thank you.

 

Crystal

 

From: Quirke10@aol.com  Add to Address Book

Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 21:41:38 EDT

Subject: (no subject)

To: caoimhghin@yahoo.com

 

   

Hi Caoimhghin-Thanks very much, I would appreciate you

sending my email to your researchers.  It would be a miracle

if they could find out some information for me, I've been

searching for so long.  Thank you again and regards. Denis G. Quirke

From: Quirke10@aol.com  Add to Address Book

Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 12:23:40 EDT

Subject: (no subject)

To: caoimhghin@yahoo.com

 

   

Dear Caoimhghin-I would appreciate your help in trying

to locate members of the Cryan family that were born in the

Manchester area in the 1960's. Their mother's name was Eleanor

Mary Cryan and the fathers name was Michael Joseph Cryan. 

The mother was born in Cork Ireland.  The children were named

Jennifer, Kevin, Michael Anthony  and Sandra.  Two of them were

twins. They moved to Cork City and lived there for a while in the

seventies. Sincerely, Denis G> Quirke email is Quirke10@aol.com

 

 

From: "Thomas Crane" <tccrane@peoplepc.com>  Add to Address Book

Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2004 20:49:49 -0500

To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Subject: [Cryan et al.] Crystal Hamel: Regarding Michael Crean

 

    

Hi Crystal, 

 

Michael Crean "Christened" 08 Feb 1854 to Michael

Crean and Bridget Healy at Castlegar, Galway. 

LDS Batch # 7435110 and Serial Sheet # 70.  

 

Go to any LDS Library and request that they send

for you to Salt Lake City for this record

according to the numbers shown above.  If there is not

an LDS library in your area, then you could write

to Salt Lake directly and request a form to fill

out.  In the event that you do not know, LDS is

the Church of Jesus Christ and the Latter Day

Saints (Mormons).  You will have to fill out a

request form probably pay a few dollars.

 

I wish that I were so lucky in the search for

some of my Crean/Crehan Irish ancestors.

 

Best wishes,

 

Tom Crane

 

 

From: "Ali Crehan Feeney" <crehan@comcast.net>  Add to Address Book

Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2004 09:11:09 -0400

To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Subject: [Cryan et al.] an unexpected boon! 

 

   

This weekend my father presented me with two

boxes he'd had in his attic;

they contained items belonging to my great-uncle

Harry (Henry Lawrence)

Crehan, who passed away in the early eighties.

Dad had forgotten all about

them, but apparently my moaning about my crashed

database jogged his memory.

He assured me that there was probably nothing

worthwhile in those cardboard

boxes, but a very quick perusal has proved him

very wrong.

 

I have found birth certificates, death

certificates, correspondence and

newspaper clippings, including obituaries and a

letter to the editor about

Ada Rehan.

 

The list has been awfully quiet lately, but I

thought I might post up items

of interest as I catalogue them. Would that be ok

with all? If not, just

holler at me. ;)

 

~ Ali

 

Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2004 06:22:22 -0700 (PDT)

From: "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>  Add to Address Book

To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Subject: [Cryan et al.] Eleanor Mary Cryan 

 

   

I would appreciate your help in trying to locate

members of the Cryan family that were born in the

Manchester area in the 1960's. Their mother's

name was

Eleanor Mary Cryan and the fathers name was

Michael

Joseph Cryan.  The mother was born in Cork

Ireland.

The children were named Jennifer, Kevin, Michael

Anthony  and Sandra.  Two of them were twins.

They

moved to Cork City and lived there for a while in

the

seventies.

Sincerely, Denis G> Quirke

 

email: Quirke10@aol.com

 

 

From: "Bob Cunning" <rcun9703@bigpond.net.au>  Add to Address Book

Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2004 09:24:43 +1000

To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Subject: [Cryan et al.] Fw: CREON or CRYAN

 

   

 

  Hello from Melbourne.I have been searching for

many years and now am

 asking  your help.

 

  My relative is shown as Catherine CRYAN, but on

her marriage Cert. it is

  CREON. Father Paul, a farmer. Mother Winifred

(nee Lonsey), place of birth

  Roscommon. DOB circa 1838

 

   It is said that the family migrated to USA

when Catherine was 'little'.

  This  may be true as her death Cert shows

birthplace as Maysville

Kentucky.

 

 A  Grand Aunt always said that Catherine was

Irish. Catherine married

Charles   WELCH in Melbourne in 1855.

 

  I am also on the CRYAN list, Kentucky Censusus

look up and Kentucky Mason

 County lists.

 

  I do hope someone can assist me. Cheers, Bob.

 

From: "Ali Crehan Feeney" <crehan@comcast.net>  Add to Address Book

Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 14:01:43 -0400

To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Subject: [Cryan et al.] "She Was Ada Crehan" - Newspaper Clipping, October 1929

 

   

Below find transcribed a newspaper clipping found

pasted into my great-uncle

Harry's business diary on the page for October

14, 1929. He includes no

heading or page number.

 

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

 

SHE WAS ADA CREHAN

But an Error of a Printer Sent Her Into Fame as

Rehan.

 

To the What Do You Think Editor

   Sir: The Article in "The Sun's Rays" regarding

Ada Rehan's profits from

Broadway lots is entertaining and ought to be

profitable reading to the

younger generation of theater habitues.

   The following well-authenticated tid-bit

should not be allowed to sink

into oblivion. When she made her debut, a

printer's error in her name on the

little white sheet which then constituted a

theater program gave her name to

the world as Ada Rehan. Her real name was Ada

Crehan.

   My uncle, J. Frank Crehan, knew both her and

Augustine Daly intimately.

She told him and several others whom I have

chanced to meet that she was

afraid after her opening night to change to Ada

Crehan. Her debut was

notably successful, and as Ada Rehan she was

hailed as a new star of the

first magnitude, and probably superstition played

as great a part in her

determination to keep the name under which she

had made her opening success.

My uncle always affirmed that her greatest role

was that of Katherine, "the

divine Italian Shrew."

HENRY L. CREHAN

 

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

 

Henry (Harry) Crehan lived in New York City. I

suspect the clipping is from

the Times, but it's really just a guess on my

part.

 

Thought you Cryan-listers might find the article

a bit amusing, if nothing

else. Going through and cataloging Harry's

materials is going to be a long

process, I'm afraid, but as I find things like

this I'd share with the list

if no one objects. :)

 

Also thought I would let you know I've started up

a blog to help me keep

myself organized and on track. I cannot give this

project my full-time

attention, as many different concerns pull me in

many different direction,s

but I'm gfoing to give it whatever I can!

 

Cheers,

Ali Crehan Feeney

http://crehan.blogspot.com

 

 

From: "Ali Crehan Feeney" <crehan@comcast.net>  Add to Address Book

Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2004 08:34:05 -0500

To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Subject: [Cryan et al.] Obituary - Herbert F. Crehan

 

   

Source: Quincy Patriot Ledger, Thursday, November

16, 1950

 

Braintree, Massachusetts -

 

Herbert F. Crehan, 49, of 153 Middle street,

Braintree, husband of Mrs.

Ruperta A. (Skelton) Crehan, died this morning at

South Shore hospital,

Weymouth, after a brief illness.

Born in Hingham, he had lived in Edgehill road,

East Braintree, for 14 years

before moving to Middle street. He had been

employed by Howard Johnson's for

the last three years and had been employed by the

Fore River shipyard for 14

years previously.

Besides his wife, he is survived by two children,

Ann and Herbert Jr.; four

sisters, Mrs. Otis E. Dunham of Beverly, Cal;

Mrs. Richard W. Luce of

Bradford, Vermont; Miss Isabel Crehan and Miss

Elizabeth Crehan, both of

East Braintree, and two brothers, Dr. Henry L.

Crehan of New York city and

Frederick L. Crehan of Maplewood, N.J.

A solemn high mass of requiem will be celebrated

in St. Thomas More church,

Braintree, Saturday morning at 9 o'clock. Burial

will be in St. Paul's

cemetery, Hingham. The funeral will be from the

Joseph R. Lucid Funeral

home, 14 Quincy avenue, East Braintree, at 8

o'clock.

 

From: "Ali Crehan Feeney" <crehan@comcast.net>  Add to Address Book

Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2004 13:35:53 -0500

To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Subject: [Cryan et al.] James Cryan

 

   

I have received in today's mail copies of the

records for James Cryan from

Bridgewater State Hospital. Special thanks to

Eve, Maureen and Judy for the

census information that gave me this lead to

pursue.

 

Unfortunately for me, he's definitely not my

elusive great-grandfather James

H. Crehan. I'm posting this information to the

list in the event that it

might be helpful to another researcher.

 

James Cryan was born about 1868 in Ireland, and

is the son of Andrew and

Mary (Loftus). He died in October 21, 1948 at the

hospital at the age of 80.

Records indicate that James Cryan was married and

previously resided in

Lynn, Massachusetts, although I cannot find any

reference to his wife's

name.

 

If this rings any bells for anyone out there,

please drop me a line; I would

be pleased to pass along these records to any

descendants. They include a

death certificate and photographs of James Cryan.

 

~ Ali Crehan Feeney

crehan@comcast.net

rupiezum@yahoo.com

From: "Bob Cunning" <rcun9703@bigpond.net.au>  Add to Address Book

Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2004 00:17:17 +1100

To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Subject: [Cryan et al.] Catherine Cryan

 

   

 

 Hello from Australia. I am trying to find

relatives of Catherine who came

to  Australia in 1854. I have been hampered

because on various documents

here, her name is shown as  CREON/CRANE/CRYAN and

even CRYING

 

 My problem is that I have no idea of Catherine's

maiden name, age, or place

of birth. Here are the conflicting Certificates

all isuued in Australia

where she married an Englishman:

 

 Marriage Cert. 1855    Age shown 21 ie born C

1834

                                  Maiden Name   

CREON

                                   Father             

Paul

                                   Mother             

Winifred ( Lonsey)

                                   Born Roscommon

Co.

 

 Son's Birth Cert 1877    Age 40 ie born C 1837

                                     Maiden Name   

CRYAN

                                     Born

Mayswell Kentucky USA

 

 Death Cert 1907            Age 69 ie born Circa

1838

                                     Maiden Name   

CRANE

                                     Father               

Paul

                                     Mother

Winifred (Lawrence)

                                    Born

Maysville Mason Co.Kentucky

 

 So, there you have all the data that I have. I

suspect that she lied about

her age when married as she was probably only

17/18. The other 2 Certs

indicate her birth as 1837/8

 

 If you have any ideas/suggestions, these would

be greatly welcomed. I am

also on the Roscommon list, Kentugky census look

up list and Mason County

list. There are some entries, close, but not

exact. The one consistent thing

is that Catherine's mother's name is Winifred.

 

 Cheers, Bob

 

From: K.McElrath@Queens-Belfast.AC.UK  View Contact Details 

Subject: Re: [Cryan et al.] James Cryan

Date: 07 Nov 2004 23:52:32 +0000

To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

 

   

hello: i have a james cryan who resided as a

child in wareham,

massachusetts (and whose aunt - also a cryan -

married a feeney in same). i

know that lynn is a good distance from wareham,

but the wareham cryans had

links with the swampscott cryans. i understand

that swampscott mass is

adjacent to lynn, mass. i would be most

appreciative if you could send me a

photocopy of the death cert and photo of james. i

can reimburse for

photocopy and postage. if you reside in the US, i

can provide my dad's

address in NY which would reduce postage costs.

many thanks for this info,

karen

 

On Nov 5 2004, Ali Crehan Feeney wrote:

 

> I have received in today's mail copies of the

records for James Cryan

> from Bridgewater State Hospital. Special thanks

to Eve, Maureen and Judy

> for the census information that gave me this

lead to pursue.

>

> Unfortunately for me, he's definitely not my

elusive great-grandfather

> James H. Crehan. I'm posting this information

to the list in the event

> that it might be helpful to another researcher.

>

> James Cryan was born about 1868 in Ireland, and

is the son of Andrew and

> Mary (Loftus). He died in October 21, 1948 at

the hospital at the age of

> 80. Records indicate that James Cryan was

married and previously resided

> in Lynn, Massachusetts, although I cannot find

any reference to his

> wife's name.

>

> If this rings any bells for anyone out there,

please drop me a line; I

> would be pleased to pass along these records to

any descendants. They

> include a death certificate and photographs of

James Cryan.

>

> ~ Ali Crehan Feeney

> crehan@comcast.net

> rupiezum@yahoo.com

>

>

>

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From: "Bob Cunning" <rcun9703@bigpond.net.au>  Add to Address Book

Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2004 13:12:55 +1100

To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Subject: [Cryan et al.] Fw: Catherine Cryan

 

   

 

 

  Hello from Australia. I am trying to find

relatives of Catherine who came

 to  Australia in 1854. I have been hampered

because on various documents

 here, her name is shown as  CREON/CRANE/CRYAN

and even CRYING

 

  My problem is that I have no idea of

Catherine's maiden name, age, or

place

 of birth. Here are the conflicting Certificates

all isuued in Australia

 where she married an Englishman:

 

  Marriage Cert. 1855    Age shown 21 ie born C

1834

                                   Maiden Name   

CREON

                                    Father             

Paul

                                    Mother             

Winifred ( Lonsey)

                                    Born

Roscommon Co.

 

  Son's Birth Cert 1877    Age 40 ie born C 1837

                                      Maiden Name   

CRYAN

                                      Born

Mayswell Kentucky USA

 

  Death Cert 1907            Age 69 ie born Circa

1838

                                      Maiden Name   

CRANE

                                      Father               

Paul

                                      Mother

Winifred (Lawrence)

                                     Born

Maysville Mason Co.Kentucky

 

  So, there you have all the data that I have. I

suspect that she lied about

 her age when married as she was probably only

17/18. The other 2 Certs

 indicate her birth as 1837/8

 

  If you have any ideas/suggestions, these would

be greatly welcomed. I am

 also on the Roscommon list, Kentugky census look

up list and Mason County

 list. There are some entries, close, but not

exact. The one consistent

thing

 is that Catherine's mother's name is Winifred.

 

  Cheers, Bob

 

 

 

==== CRYAN Mailing List ====

   Crean family motto:

Cor mundum crea in me Deus

 

 

From: "Bob Cunning" <rcun9703@bigpond.net.au>  Add to Address Book

Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2004 21:09:08 +1100

To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Subject: [Cryan et al.] CREON or CRYAN

 

   

 

 

   Hello from Melbourne.I have been searching for

many years and now am

  asking  your help.

 

   My relative is shown as Catherine CRYAN, but

on her marriage Cert. it is

   CREON. Father Paul, a farmer. Mother Winifred

(nee Lonsey), place of

birth

   Roscommon. DOB circa 1838

 

    It is said that the family migrated to USA

when Catherine was 'little'.

   This  may be true as her death Cert shows

birthplace as Maysville

Kentucky.

 

  A  Grand Aunt always said that Catherine was

Irish. Catherine married

Charles   WELCH in Melbourne in 1855.

 

   I am also on the ROSCOMMDN , Kentucky Censusus

look up and Kentucky Mason

County lists.

 

  I do hope someone can assist me. Cheers, Bob.

 

From: "Patrick Cryans" <pat@pcryans.fsnet.co.uk>  Add to Address Book

Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2004 17:24:08 -0000

To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Subject: [Cryan et al.] POOR LAW RECORDS

 

   

Hi

Can anyone help me? i am trying to find where i

can access the Poor Law records for Boyle( which

also covers part of South Sligo about 1840-1850.

Patrick)

 

From: "Thomas Crane" <tccrane@peoplepc.com>  Add to Address Book

Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2004 00:13:00 -0600

To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Subject: [Cryan et al.] Fw: Something To Pass The Time

 

   

 

 

 

Greetings Fellow Listers,

 

Since you all seem to be such a loving and

understanding group of people, I thought that I would

forward a message that I sent to another person on

another list.  The subject matter had been old

time radio and the various programs that, as

children, we all listened to.  If anything, I would

just like to evoke some emotional understanding,

which you all no doubt have as you conduct your own

research, towards the genealogical process that

we all enjoy.

 

Best wishes,

 

Tom Crane

 

 

 

Don, I do believe in everything that you say. If

you do not mind, I wish to elaborate a bit on

what you did say about the creative process and

imagination and especially as it applies to

genealogy.    

 

As one delves into the genealogical process, one

has to have an imaginative mind otherwise, it

becomes nothing more than fitting together of pieces

in a puzzle.  In terms of roots or genealogy, a

pattern appears to develop in the thinking of a

person who indulges in such endeavors as they are

not only able to become involved in the past but

rather they begin to understand the placement of

one's own ancestors in the context of the

conditions under which they once lived. 

 

As far as I am concerned, the movie, "Somewhere

In Time," was not only a love story that took

place over time, but an exercise in the genealogical

process.  Although the character that was played

by Christopher Reeve appeared to travel back in

time in order to meet the beautiful Jane Seymour,

he did, in reality, engage in the genealogical

process in order to place himself in that time

warp.  In order to accomplish this task, he had to

know or understand what life might have been like

in that era of the past.   He did not simply

recreate the past, rather, he lived it.

 

When one stands before the burial place of some

long forgotten ancestor and reads the inscription

written on a tombstone, does one merely copy the

time and place or does one conjure up the image

of the person who might have been?  Remember, it

will not be long before the person who gazes down

upon that grave will someday occupy a similar

resting place and for all of eternity.  What

memories of the past will that person who occupies that

grave wish to convey to someone in the future

other than the inscription that is written on his or

her tomb? 

 

Picture a child hiding in a bomb shelter beneath

the ground seeking shelter from the bombs that

are not only destroying his home, but his country

as well.  His only contact with the outside world

comes in the form of a radio program beamed

across the ocean from a place where children are

safely tucked in a nice warm bed.  What memories does

that radio program evoke from the past in that

person's mind and even more importantly, will

someone from the future even be able to understand? 

Will some genealogist simply record his name on a

chart along side of others or will they attempt

to know the child that once was and the

"shadows"of his past?  (* Here I made reference to "The

Shadow" radio program which someone had listened to

during the Battle of Britain in the Second World

War).

 

Another person wrote on this website that they

lived in the country where no electricity was

available, hence, they did not have the pleasure of

listening to a childhood radio program.  In effect,

that person asked if he might have been deprived

of that pleasure while others conveyed great

delight in re-creating or discussing radio programs

from the past.  Might we then might ask some Amish

child if he felt deprived because he lived where

only the rudiments of modern day society exist. 

His father plows the ground with horses in a

fashion that his Amish ancestors did hundreds of

years ago.  To delve into genealogy one must have the

imagination to try to understand what it is that

an Amish person experiences as he looks and prays

to his God while, at the same time, relinquishing

all of the outside distractions that could

possibly diminish his subservience to his Creator.

 

Henry Z. Jones, Jr. has written a rather

enlightening book that has to do with the imaginative or

psychic process in genealogy.  The title of his

book is, "More Psychic Roots" and is sub-titled,

"Further Adventures in Serendipity & Intuition in

Genealogy."   Mr. Jones has given me the honor

and pleasure of his having quoted from my own book

as to some of the experiences that I had in

searching for my own family's past.  While my book is

posted on the WWW for all to read, "Free Of

Charge," I will, never-the-less withhold its title

only to say that it can be researched by merely

entering my name; that is, Thomas J. Crane.  I

mention this to you because I do believe whole-hardly

that there is dimension beyond that which exists

within our everyday lives.  By using one's

imagination, because it is through this process that the

mind begins to explore avenues that others might

not even know exist, one can slip the bounds

limit us.

 

In closing, I am reminded of a television program

that was once popular many years ago.  The name

of the program was, "Dragnet," and the character

of Sergeant Friday was played by Jack Webb.  One

of the most famous lines that came from that

program was, "Just the facts, Mam; just the facts." 

This leads me to ask, will we simply employ

Officer Friday's methodology in the recording of

genealogical information or will we seek to know and to

understand the person whose name that we are

recording?

 

Best wishes to All,

 

Tom Crane

From: "Bob Cunning" <rcun9703@bigpond.net.au>  Add to Address Book

Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2005 23:46:01 +1100

To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Subject: [Cryan et al.] Catherine Cryan

 

   

 

   Hello from Australia. I am trying to find

relatives of Catherine who came

to  Australia in 1854. I have been hampered

because on various documents

here, her name is shown as  CREON/CRANE/CRYAN and

even CRYING

 

 My problem is that I have no idea of Catherine's

maiden name, age, or

place  of birth. Here are the conflicting

Certificates all isuued in

Australia   where she married an Englishman:

 

   Marriage Cert. 1855    Age shown 21 ie born C

1834

                                    Maiden Name   

CREON

                                     Father             

Paul

                                     Mother             

Winifred ( Lonsey)

                                     Born

Roscommon Co.

 

   Son's Birth Cert 1877    Age 40 ie born C 1837

                                       Maiden

Name    CRYAN

                                       Born

Mayswell Kentucky USA

 

   Death Cert 1907            Age 69 ie born

Circa 1838

                                       Maiden

Name    CRANE

                                       Father               

Paul

                                       Mother

Winifred (Lawrence)

                                      Born

Maysville Mason Co.Kentucky

 

 So, there you have all the data that I have. I

suspect that she lied about

her age when married as she was probably only

17/18. The other 2 Certs

indicate her birth as 1837/8

 

 If you have any ideas/suggestions, these would

be greatly welcomed. I am

also on the Roscommon list, Kentugky census look

up list and Mason County

list. There are some entries, close, but not

exact. The one consistent

thing   is that Catherine's mother's name is

Winifred.

 

Cheers, Bob

 

 

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