From: "bob
cunning" <rcun9703@bigpond.net.au>
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Date: Wed,
12 May 2004 16:26:57 +1000
To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
Subject: [Cryan
et al.] Fw: CREON or CRYAN
Hello from Melbourne.I have been
searching for
many years and now am asking your help.
My relative is shown as Catherine CRYAN,
but on
her marriage Cert. it is CREON. Father
Paul, a
farmer. Mother Winifred (nee Lonsey),
place of birth
Roscommon. DOB circa 1838
It is said that the family migrated to
Catherine was 'little'. This may be true
as her
death Cert shows birthplace as Maysville
A Grand Aunt always said that Catherine
was
Irish. Catherine married Charles WELCH
in
1855.
I do hope someone can assist me. Cheers,
Bob.
Date: Wed,
12 May 2004 18:46:37 -0700 (PDT)
From: "edna fuller"
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Subject: Re:
[Cryan et al.] crehan
To: "Caoimhghin
O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>
Hi Nancy,
No relation to my Cryan's. Idon't recognize any
of
these names.
Don't give up keep trying
Edna Fuller
--- Caoimhghin O Croidheain
<caoimhghin@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> From:
> "Nancy
Fiore"
> <nancy_fiore@yahoo.com> Re: [Cryan et al.]
> crehan
>
> Hello.
>
> Is anyone familiar
with
any
> Crean family that married
a Bonaparte or
other
> French family?
>
> My relative is Napoleon
> Bonaparte
> Crean. Many
Bonapartes lived in England and
also
> in
> Waterford and
Dublin. Does anyone know
about
> who
> these Bonapartes married that might be Irish?
>
> His wife was Ann, maybe
Ann
> Lewis. Their
children were Charles,
William,
> Catharine, James, Thomas, Anne.
>
> Any help would be
greatly
> appreciated.
>
> Nancy
>
> [sorry for delay Nancy-
> caoimhghin]
>
>
>
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Subject: Cryan
Questions
From: "Dermot
M Cryan" <dcryan@metlife.com>
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Date: Tue,
25 May 2004 13:32:13 -0400
Kevin, allow me to introduce
myself. I am Dermot Cryan and I am part
of the tree that Peter Cryan is perhaps tracing - he is a first cousin of my
dad (he is listed as Peter Cryan, "Ave Maria",43 Braemor Rd,
Churchtown Dublin 14). I am trying to do
my own research although I live in the U.S. and would be very interested in
getting copies of the information that you have already gathered - would it be
possible to get copies/ jpeg versions or is this a box full of information that
requires on-site work, in which case I'd love to get together with you next
time I am home to do a little research.
I don't have an e-mail address for Peter - has he perhaps pursued
analyzing some of the info separately? I
think you met my Dad once. He lives at
Killumod crossroads on the Elphin Carrick on Shannon road.
bob cunning"
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Date: Tue,
8 Jun 2004 13:23:19 +1000
To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
Subject: [Cryan
et al.] Fw: Catherine Cryan
Hello from Australia. I am trying to
find
relatives of Catherine who came to
Australia in 1854. I
have been hampered because on various
documents,
her name is shown as CREON/CRANE/CRYAN
and even
CRYING
Her Death Cert. says that she was born
in Mason
County, Maysville, Kentucky, but her
Marriage
Cert. shows her birth place as Roscommon Co. I am
also on the Rosscommon List
Any help here would be greatly
appreciated.
Cheers, Bob in Melbourne.
Wed, 30 Jun 2004 18:10:29 -0400
From: probartending@juno.com Add to Address Book
To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
Subject: [Cryan
et al.] Crohan
Hi,
Anyone have any Crohans from Dingle? I
have more
info.
Thanks, Mary
Wed, 30 Jun 2004 18:10:29 -0400
From: probartending@juno.com Add to Address Book
To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
Subject: [Cryan et al.] Crohan
Hi,
Anyone have any Crohans from Dingle? I
have more
info.
Thanks, Mary
From: Voltene@aol.com Add to Address Book
Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2004 15:36:23 EDT
To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
Subject: [Cryan et al.] John P.Cryan of
Lowell, MA
Found the following article in a local
newspaper...
Lowell Sunday Telegram (Lowell, MA) May 15, 1933
PEOPLE YOU KNOW
One who will be a participant and who is
doing
his utmost to make the State
Department of Spanish-American War
Veterans
convention here on June 9, 10, 11,
a great success is John P. Cryan, born
here April
14, 1874. Mr. Cryan has
made Lowell his home throughout his
life, and in
the public schools of the city
his preliminary education was obtained.
After leaving school, the mills of the
city
became his place of employment
until 1897, The declaration of war by the United
States against Spain in 1898
found him in New York. Hurrying to his home
city, he enlisted in Company G
Sixth Massachussetts Infantry and was
detailed to
Camp Alger in Falls Church, VA
and from there he was sent to Porto Rico
with the
command.
At the close of the war following his
honorable
discharge, Mr. Cryan returned
to Lowell and opened a store on Broadway
which
continued for several years.
While in that endeavor he had charge of
the
distribution of the Sunday
Telegram in that community and had a
squad of
youngsters under his direction in that
duty.
Mr. Cryan then took up the vocation of a
travelling salesman, also was
employed by the Turner Centre Creamery
for years
following its establishment here,
and during the World War was fixer
foreman of the
Capping department in the
plant of the United State Cartridge
company.
After the armistace, Mr. Cryan
resumed his duties as travelling
salesman for a
Boston food broker.
For a long period he was greatly
interested in
adult education, being
president of the Morgan club composed of
students
of the University Extension
Division of the State Department of
Education
which was the prime mover in having the
largest classes of adult students ever
assembled
in this city for the study
of salesmanship, public speaking and
advertising.
A Democratic candidate for
representative in the
14th district last fall, he
is a member of the Democratic city
committee and
of the executive committee of
Ward 4.
Other organizations and groups that
claim him as an energetic and
interested member are the following: Past
commander of the General Adelbert
Ames Camp 19, Spanish War Veterans; clerk of the
committee of Butler Memorial
committee of the Centennial year; past
counsellor
of Lowell council of the
United Commercial Travellers of America
and
secretary-treasurer for the past 16
years; was member of the first board of
directors
of the C.Y.M.L. of St.
Patrick's church parish and served on
that board
for three years; and is member of the
committee for the observance of Memorial
Day this
year, representing General
Adelbert Ames camp 19.
With the resumption of business
activities in
various lines of industry, Mr.
Cryan looks forward to resuming his
duties as a
travelling salesman from which
he has been suspended for a period.
A hobby of his yet is adult education
along lines
that will make the
individual a better citizen.
The 25th anniversary of his marriage to
Miss Anna
G. O'Reilly of this city
was observed by them in September
last. They
have 9 children, seven boys and
two girls, all of whom are living;
James, Frank,
Arthur who is married and
resides in New York; John P. Jr.,
Catherine,
Alleen, Thomas, Paul and Gerald. The
family home is at 59 Temple St.
---
Karen (Murphy) Hickey
Nashua, NH
From: "Bob Cunning"
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Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2004 22:06:05 +1000
To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
Subject: [Cryan et al.] : CREON or CRYAN
Hello from Melbourne.I have been searching for
many years and now am
asking your help.
My relative is shown as Catherine CRYAN, but
on
her marriage Cert. it is
CREON. Father Paul, a farmer. Mother
Winifred
(nee Lonsey), place of birth
Roscommon. DOB circa 1838
It is said that the family migrated to
USA when
Catherine was 'little'.
This
may be true as her death Cert shows
birthplace as Maysville Kentucky.
A
Grand Aunt always said that Catherine was
Irish. Catherine married
Charles
WELCH in Melbourne in 1855.
I do hope someone can assist me
. Cheers, Bob.
From: "Leslie Poche"
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Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2004 11:17:33 -0400
To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
Subject: [Cryan et al.] Early Crean
link?
Please see the message below recently
sent to me:
----- Original Message -----
From: "Donald Patterson"
<dpatter98@cox.net>
To: <cryan-l-request@rootsweb.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2004 1:05 AM
Subject: Any link?
> In my working on my ATKINSON
ancestry I find
reference to a Capt.
> Charles ATKINSON who migrated from Yorkshire
to a middle county
> in Ireland in circa 1611, His son,
Andrew
ATKINSON , in circa 1645
> married a Jean CREAN, dau of
Ambrose CREAN,
said to have been
> the Earl of Sligo. Donald
Patterson
>
>
From: "Stephen Morrison"
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Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2004 15:26:28 +0100
To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
Subject: [Cryan et al.] Stephen Crean
Stephen Crean, my great- uncle, was born in
Wales in 1857. His parents were Irish immigrants
and he was the eldest child in a growing
family.
His father was a mason i.e. a bricklayer
and times
were obviously difficult. In spite of
this, he
became an accomplished cornet player
and, in
1879,
he emigrated to New York, and, on
one
occasion at the age of 23, played a solo in Central
Park, New York. He went on to have an exceptional
career as a soloist cornet player.
Later on, he moved to Cook County, Chicago,
and married a French lady named Stella.
I don't
know her surname. I believe that on 9/20/1913 he
was shot and killed by his business
partner. I was
told much of this by my mother, who had a great
affection for her Uncle Steve, so much
so that
she named me after him.
I have,
for a long time now, sought
information
on my namesake. As many of you know
that, when
investigating your past, people can become not
exactly flesh and blood, but tend
to take on
shape and form. I often think of this newly- arrived
young man playing his cornet in Central
Park, and
I would dearly like to know what
happened on the
9/20/1913.
If anyone can assist me I would be most
grateful.
Steve Stephen Crean Morrison
Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2004 10:35:03 -0700
(PDT)
From:
"Nancy Fiore" <nancy_fiore@yahoo.com> Add to Address Book
To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
Subject: [Cryan et al.] Creans from
Sligo, Bishop Crean, Bonaparte-Crean
Hello!
>
> My mother, Rita Crean Oster, says
that we are
> originally from Sligo. We have a Bishop Crean
in
the
> family, and also a Napoleon Bonaparte
Crean who
> married Ann ? (possibly Lewis).
>
> Do you know of the Bishop Crean
family or the
> Bonaparte family that married a
Crean?
>
> You may pass this information to
anyone looking
for
> these people.
>
> Thanks so much!
>
> Nancy Fiore
> near Chicago, Illinois, USA
From: "Bob Cunning"
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Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 01:44:22 +1000
To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
Subject: [Cryan et al.] Catherine Cryan
Hello from Australia. I am trying to
find
relatives of Catherine who came
to
Australia in 1854. I have been hampered
because on various documents,
her name is shown as CREON/CRANE/CRYAN
and even
CRYING
Her Death Cert. says that she was born
in Mason
County, Maysville,
Kentucky, but her Marriage Cert. shows her birth
place as
Roscommon Co. I
am also
on
the Rosscommon List
Any help here would be greatly
appreciated.
Cheers, Bob in Melbourne.
Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2004 21:29:52 -0500
From: "AnnF" <fountaam@141.com> Add to Address Book
To: caoimhghin@yahoo.com
Subject: Cryan genealogy
Hi.
I'm a great-granddaughter of Matthew J.
Cryan,
who was supposed to have
come over from Ireland around 1885
(haven't found
out exactly when yet).
His
parents were supposed to be Thomas Cryan
and Ann Duignan (sp?).
And he was supposed to live in
Frenchlawn,
Roscommon, IRE. I have heard
from family stories that there were
supposed to
be about 6 kids, but I
don't know the names, only that at least
one was
a girl. Only Matthew
was supposed to have come to the US, in
childhood, but I don't know if
the parents came with him. Any insight
you might
have would be
appreciated.
Also, I have pictures of Mary Cryan my
gr-aunt
with a Sister M. Germaine
Cryan - who I've seen in US Censuses in
the
Kalamazoo area around 1920
but am not sure if she was a
relation. And also
a picture of Mary with
Father Basil Cryan and his sister (no
name given
on the back of the
photo).
I'm not sure how/if he was related.
:)
Ann Fountain
Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2004 22:04:09 -0500
From: "AnnF"
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To: caoimhghin@yahoo.com, johnc@fox.com,
ckohnke1@msn.com
Subject: Cryan Roscommon Search
Saw your e-mails listed as people
researching
Cryans in Roscommon Cty.
I was wondering if any of you are
looking into
Thomas Cryan and Ann
Duignan possibly from Frenchlawn,
Roscommon.
There were supposed to be
6 children, at least 1 that became a
priest, and
at least one was a
daughter. My ancestor is the son Matthew who
emmigrated to Michigan.
:)
Ann
From: "Bob Cunning"
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Date: Sun, 29 Aug 2004 01:49:00 +1000
To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
Subject: [Cryan et al.] Fw: CREON or
CRYAN
Hello from Melbourne.I have been searching for
many years and now am
asking your help.
My relative is shown as Catherine CRYAN, but
on
her marriage Cert. it is
CREON. Father Paul, a farmer. Mother
Winifred
(nee Lonsey), place of birth
Roscommon. DOB circa 1838
It is said that the family migrated to
USA when
Catherine was 'little'.
This
may be true as her death Cert shows
birthplace as Maysville Kentucky.
A
Grand Aunt always said that Catherine was
Irish. Catherine married
Charles
WELCH in Melbourne in 1855.
I am also on Roscommon and the
appropriate US
lists.
I
do hope someone can assist me. Cheers, Bob.
From: "Bob Cunning"
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Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 08:59:15 +1000
To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
Subject: [Cryan et al.] Fw: Catherine
Cryan
Hello from Australia. I am trying to
find
relatives of Catherine who came
to
Australia in 1854. I have been hampered
because on various documents
here, her name is shown as
CREON/CRANE/CRYAN and
even CRYING
My problem is that I have no idea of
Catherine's
maiden name, age, or place
of birth. Here are the conflicting
Certificates
all isuued in Australia
where she married an Englishman:
Marriage Cert. 1855 Age shown 21 ie born C
1834
Maiden
Name
CREON
Father
Paul
Mother
Winifred ( Lonsey)
Born Roscommon
Co.
Son's Birth Cert 1877 Age 40 ie born C 1837
Maiden
Name
CRYAN
Born
Mayswell
Kentucky USA
Death Cert 1907 Age 69 ie born Circa
1838
Maiden
Name
CRANE
Father
Paul
Mother Winifred
(Lawrence)
Born Maysville Mason
Co.Kentucky
So, there you have all the data that I
have. I
suspect that she lied about
her age when married as she was probably
only
17/18. The other 2 Certs
indicate her birth as 1837/8
If you have any ideas/suggestions, these
would be
greatly welcomed. I am
also on th Roscommon list, Kentugky
census look
up list and Mason County
list
Cheers, Bob
From: "Ali Crehan Feeney"
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Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 11:52:35 -0400
To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
Subject: [Cryan et al.] I'm stuck! Any
bright ideas?
Fellow researchers,
I'm hoping you won't mid this little
email asking
for help, because I've hit
a brick wall and my head hurts. Add to
that the
fact that my desktop crashed
and burned and took out all my genealogy
files,
and you've got a sad little
genealogical spelunker on your hands.
Here are the bricks that make up my
wall:
My great-grandfather, James Crehan, was
born
~1861. Family history says he
was born in Hingham, MA, but I am unable
to
locate a birth record for him,
though I have located birth records for
siblings
before and after him in
Hingham.
I have located a marriage certificate
for him,
and a newspaper article about
his wedding. (I will send the text of
this
article to the list under
separate email)
Family history also says that James left
his wife
and children shortly after
the birth of my grandfather in 1901; my
aunt
knows nothing of where he went,
only that it was "away" and
that he was never
heard from again. However,
I've located Hingham's List of Persons
Assessed a
Poll Tax records, a yearly
publication - and James appears on that
list
until 1909, much to my aunt's
astonishment.
I've located the gravestone of my
great-great
grandparents; James is not
listed on it.
I have no idea how to figure out when
James died,
and where. He's my little
mystery, and if I could just get some
more
documentation on him I think I
could put a few more pieces together,
Any thoughts, bright ideas, flashes of
inspiration or shots in the dark?
They'd all be appreciated!!
~ Ali
p.s. - I do, of course, have hard copies
of
everything that was on my
computer - I'm just frustrated at the
thought of
having to recreate my
lovely and helpful database from
scratch. Ugh.
From: "Ali Crehan Feeney"
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Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 12:00:34 -0400
To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
Subject: [Cryan et al.] Crehan-Lowry
(Newspaper article/announcement, Hingham Journal)
The Hingham Journal, Vol XXXX, No. 6,
page 1.
Issue dated February 8, 1889.
CREHAN-LOWRY
Last Sunday afternoon, at the residence
of Rev.
Fr. Gerald Fagan, Mr. James
H. Crehan, the popular proprietor of one
of the
carriage stands at the
railroad station, was united in marriage
to Miss
Belle Lowry, daughter of
the late William Lowry. Mr. Thomas L.
Crehan,
brother of the groom, acted as
groomsman, and Miss Katie A. Fee as
bridesmaid.
After the ceremony a
reception was held at the residence of
the
bride's mother on Williams
street, Hingham Centre, to which only
immediate
relatives of the groom and
bride were invited. At the conclusion of
the
reception, Mr. and Mrs. Crehan
proceeded to their new home on North
street, near
the corner of Ship street.
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 16:52:57 -0400
(Eastern Standard Time)
From: "Maureen McCourt
Nantista" <mornan@optonline.net>
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Subject: [Cryan et al.] Re: I'm stuck!
Any bright ideas?
Hello Ali,
I've found your grandfather James H. Crehan
in the 1910 census in
Hingham with his wife Isabella L. and
their eight
children - the youngest is
Herbert 8 yrs. old. James' age is 47 and he's a
railroad flagman.
James H. and Isabella are also in the 1900
census, again in Hingham,
with seven children and James' father
Lawrence, a
widower, in the household.
James is 38 and a carriage driver.
Lawrence, who
is 66 and a gardener, was
born in Ireland in Oct. 1833 and came to
the US
in 1851. James birth is
given as Aug. 1861, and Isabella's as
April 1862.
The 1880 census has Lawrence Crehan 44 a
laborer, wife Catherine 46 and
their seven children. James H. is 18 and
his
occupation is servant.
I haven't been able to locate James in the
1920 or 1930 censuses, so it
s likely he either died or disappeared
in this
time frame.
Hope this brightens your day a bit. I'll
attempt sending the documents
to you off-list since they will be
attachments.
Maureen Nantista
Huntington, NY
From: "Matt&Crystal Hamel"
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Date: Fri, 01 Oct 2004 22:03:49 +0000
To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
Subject: [Cryan et al.] Michael Crean
Can anyone tell me how to obtain birth
information for Michael Crean born
February 8, 1854 in Castlegar by Galway?
Thank you.
Crystal
From: Quirke10@aol.com Add to Address Book
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 21:41:38 EDT
Subject: (no subject)
To: caoimhghin@yahoo.com
Hi Caoimhghin-Thanks very much, I would
appreciate you
sending my email to your
researchers. It would be a miracle
if they could find out some information
for me, I've been
searching for so long. Thank you again and regards. Denis G. Quirke
From: Quirke10@aol.com Add to Address Book
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 12:23:40 EDT
Subject: (no subject)
To: caoimhghin@yahoo.com
Dear Caoimhghin-I would appreciate your
help in trying
to locate members of the Cryan family
that were born in the
Manchester area in the 1960's. Their
mother's name was Eleanor
Mary Cryan and the fathers name was
Michael Joseph Cryan.
The mother was born in Cork
Ireland. The children were named
Jennifer, Kevin, Michael Anthony and Sandra.
Two of them were
twins. They moved to Cork City and lived
there for a while in the
seventies. Sincerely, Denis G> Quirke
email is Quirke10@aol.com
From: "Thomas Crane"
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Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2004 20:49:49 -0500
To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
Subject: [Cryan et al.] Crystal Hamel:
Regarding Michael Crean
Hi Crystal,
Michael Crean "Christened" 08
Feb 1854 to Michael
Crean and Bridget Healy at Castlegar,
Galway.
LDS Batch # 7435110 and Serial Sheet #
70.
Go to any LDS Library and request that
they send
for you to Salt Lake City for this
record
according to the numbers shown
above. If there is not
an LDS library in your area, then you
could write
to Salt Lake directly and request a form
to fill
out.
In the event that you do not know, LDS is
the Church of Jesus Christ and the
Latter Day
Saints (Mormons). You will have to fill out a
request form probably pay a few dollars.
I wish that I were so lucky in the
search for
some of my Crean/Crehan Irish ancestors.
Best wishes,
Tom Crane
From: "Ali Crehan Feeney"
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Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2004 09:11:09 -0400
To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
Subject: [Cryan et al.] an unexpected
boon!
This weekend my father presented me with
two
boxes he'd had in his attic;
they contained items belonging to my
great-uncle
Harry (Henry Lawrence)
Crehan, who passed away in the early
eighties.
Dad had forgotten all about
them, but apparently my moaning about my
crashed
database jogged his memory.
He assured me that there was probably
nothing
worthwhile in those cardboard
boxes, but a very quick perusal has
proved him
very wrong.
I have found birth certificates, death
certificates, correspondence and
newspaper clippings, including
obituaries and a
letter to the editor about
Ada Rehan.
The list has been awfully quiet lately,
but I
thought I might post up items
of interest as I catalogue them. Would
that be ok
with all? If not, just
holler at me. ;)
~ Ali
Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2004 06:22:22 -0700
(PDT)
From: "Caoimhghin O
Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>
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To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
Subject: [Cryan et al.] Eleanor Mary
Cryan
I would appreciate your help in trying
to locate
members of the Cryan family that were
born in the
Manchester area in the 1960's. Their
mother's
name was
Eleanor Mary Cryan and the fathers name
was
Michael
Joseph Cryan. The mother was born in Cork
Ireland.
The children were named Jennifer, Kevin,
Michael
Anthony
and Sandra. Two of them were
twins.
They
moved to Cork City and lived there for a
while in
the
seventies.
Sincerely, Denis G> Quirke
email: Quirke10@aol.com
From: "Bob Cunning"
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Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2004 09:24:43 +1000
To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
Subject: [Cryan et al.] Fw: CREON or
CRYAN
Hello from Melbourne.I have been searching for
many years and now am
asking
your help.
My relative is shown as Catherine CRYAN, but on
her marriage Cert. it is
CREON. Father Paul, a farmer. Mother Winifred
(nee Lonsey), place of birth
Roscommon. DOB circa 1838
It is said that the family migrated to USA
when Catherine was 'little'.
This may be true as her death
Cert shows
birthplace as Maysville
Kentucky.
A Grand
Aunt always said that Catherine was
Irish. Catherine married
Charles
WELCH in Melbourne in 1855.
I am also on the CRYAN list, Kentucky Censusus
look up and Kentucky Mason
County lists.
I do hope someone can assist me. Cheers, Bob.
From: "Ali Crehan Feeney"
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Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 14:01:43 -0400
To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
Subject: [Cryan et al.] "She Was
Ada Crehan" - Newspaper Clipping, October 1929
Below find transcribed a newspaper
clipping found
pasted into my great-uncle
Harry's business diary on the page for
October
14, 1929. He includes no
heading or page number.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
SHE WAS ADA CREHAN
But an Error of a Printer Sent Her Into
Fame as
Rehan.
To the What Do You Think Editor
Sir: The Article in "The Sun's Rays" regarding
Ada Rehan's profits from
Broadway lots is entertaining and ought
to be
profitable reading to the
younger generation of theater habitues.
The following well-authenticated tid-bit
should not be allowed to sink
into oblivion. When she made her debut,
a
printer's error in her name on the
little white sheet which then
constituted a
theater program gave her name to
the world as Ada Rehan. Her real name
was Ada
Crehan.
My uncle, J. Frank Crehan, knew both her and
Augustine Daly intimately.
She told him and several others whom I
have
chanced to meet that she was
afraid after her opening night to change
to Ada
Crehan. Her debut was
notably successful, and as Ada Rehan she
was
hailed as a new star of the
first magnitude, and probably
superstition played
as great a part in her
determination to keep the name under
which she
had made her opening success.
My uncle always affirmed that her
greatest role
was that of Katherine, "the
divine Italian Shrew."
HENRY L. CREHAN
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Henry (Harry) Crehan lived in New York
City. I
suspect the clipping is from
the Times, but it's really just a guess
on my
part.
Thought you Cryan-listers might find the
article
a bit amusing, if nothing
else. Going through and cataloging
Harry's
materials is going to be a long
process, I'm afraid, but as I find
things like
this I'd share with the list
if no one objects. :)
Also thought I would let you know I've
started up
a blog to help me keep
myself organized and on track. I cannot
give this
project my full-time
attention, as many different concerns
pull me in
many different direction,s
but I'm gfoing to give it whatever I
can!
Cheers,
Ali Crehan Feeney
http://crehan.blogspot.com
From: "Ali Crehan Feeney"
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Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2004 08:34:05 -0500
To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
Subject: [Cryan et al.] Obituary -
Herbert F. Crehan
Source: Quincy Patriot Ledger, Thursday,
November
16, 1950
Braintree, Massachusetts -
Herbert F. Crehan, 49, of 153 Middle
street,
Braintree, husband of Mrs.
Ruperta A. (Skelton) Crehan, died this
morning at
South Shore hospital,
Weymouth, after a brief illness.
Born in Hingham, he had lived in
Edgehill road,
East Braintree, for 14 years
before moving to Middle street. He had
been
employed by Howard Johnson's for
the last three years and had been
employed by the
Fore River shipyard for 14
years previously.
Besides his wife, he is survived by two
children,
Ann and Herbert Jr.; four
sisters, Mrs. Otis E. Dunham of Beverly,
Cal;
Mrs. Richard W. Luce of
Bradford, Vermont; Miss Isabel Crehan
and Miss
Elizabeth Crehan, both of
East Braintree, and two brothers, Dr.
Henry L.
Crehan of New York city and
Frederick L. Crehan of Maplewood, N.J.
A solemn high mass of requiem will be
celebrated
in St. Thomas More church,
Braintree, Saturday morning at 9
o'clock. Burial
will be in St. Paul's
cemetery, Hingham. The funeral will be from
the
Joseph R. Lucid Funeral
home, 14 Quincy avenue, East Braintree,
at 8
o'clock.
From: "Ali Crehan Feeney"
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Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2004 13:35:53 -0500
To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
Subject: [Cryan et al.] James Cryan
I have received in today's mail copies
of the
records for James Cryan from
Bridgewater State Hospital. Special
thanks to
Eve, Maureen and Judy for the
census information that gave me this
lead to
pursue.
Unfortunately for me, he's definitely
not my
elusive great-grandfather James
H. Crehan. I'm posting this information
to the
list in the event that it
might be helpful to another researcher.
James Cryan was born about 1868 in
Ireland, and
is the son of Andrew and
Mary (Loftus). He died in October 21,
1948 at the
hospital at the age of 80.
Records indicate that James Cryan was
married and
previously resided in
Lynn, Massachusetts, although I cannot
find any
reference to his wife's
name.
If this rings any bells for anyone out
there,
please drop me a line; I would
be pleased to pass along these records
to any
descendants. They include a
death certificate and photographs of
James Cryan.
~ Ali Crehan Feeney
crehan@comcast.net
rupiezum@yahoo.com
From: "Bob Cunning"
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Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2004 00:17:17 +1100
To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
Subject: [Cryan et al.] Catherine Cryan
Hello from Australia. I am trying to find
relatives of Catherine who came
to
Australia in 1854. I have been hampered
because on various documents
here, her name is shown as CREON/CRANE/CRYAN and
even CRYING
My problem is that I have no idea of
Catherine's
maiden name, age, or place
of birth. Here are the conflicting
Certificates
all isuued in Australia
where she married an Englishman:
Marriage Cert. 1855 Age shown 21 ie born C
1834
Maiden
Name
CREON
Father
Paul
Mother
Winifred ( Lonsey)
Born
Roscommon
Co.
Son's Birth Cert 1877 Age 40 ie born C 1837
Maiden
Name
CRYAN
Born
Mayswell Kentucky USA
Death Cert 1907 Age 69 ie born Circa
1838
Maiden
Name
CRANE
Father
Paul
Mother
Winifred (Lawrence)
Born
Maysville Mason Co.Kentucky
So, there you have all the data that I have. I
suspect that she lied about
her age when married as she was probably
only
17/18. The other 2 Certs
indicate her birth as 1837/8
If you have any ideas/suggestions, these would
be greatly welcomed. I am
also on the Roscommon list, Kentugky
census look
up list and Mason County
list. There are some entries, close, but
not
exact. The one consistent thing
is that Catherine's mother's name is
Winifred.
Cheers, Bob
From:
K.McElrath@Queens-Belfast.AC.UK View
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Subject: Re: [Cryan et al.] James Cryan
Date: 07 Nov 2004 23:52:32 +0000
To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
hello: i have a james cryan who resided
as a
child in wareham,
massachusetts (and whose aunt - also a
cryan -
married a feeney in same). i
know that lynn is a good distance from
wareham,
but the wareham cryans had
links with the swampscott cryans. i
understand
that swampscott mass is
adjacent to lynn, mass. i would be most
appreciative if you could send me a
photocopy of the death cert and photo of
james. i
can reimburse for
photocopy and postage. if you reside in
the US, i
can provide my dad's
address in NY which would reduce postage
costs.
many thanks for this info,
karen
On Nov 5 2004, Ali Crehan Feeney wrote:
> I have received in today's mail
copies of the
records for James Cryan
> from Bridgewater State Hospital.
Special thanks
to Eve, Maureen and Judy
> for the census information that
gave me this
lead to pursue.
>
> Unfortunately for me, he's
definitely not my
elusive great-grandfather
> James H. Crehan. I'm posting this
information
to the list in the event
> that it might be helpful to another
researcher.
>
> James Cryan was born about 1868 in
Ireland, and
is the son of Andrew and
> Mary (Loftus). He died in October
21, 1948 at
the hospital at the age of
> 80. Records indicate that James
Cryan was
married and previously resided
> in Lynn, Massachusetts, although I
cannot find
any reference to his
> wife's name.
>
> If this rings any bells for anyone
out there,
please drop me a line; I
> would be pleased to pass along
these records to
any descendants. They
> include a death certificate and
photographs of
James Cryan.
>
> ~ Ali Crehan Feeney
> crehan@comcast.net
> rupiezum@yahoo.com
>
>
>
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From: "Bob Cunning"
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Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2004 13:12:55 +1100
To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
Subject: [Cryan et al.] Fw: Catherine
Cryan
Hello from Australia. I am trying to find
relatives of Catherine who came
to
Australia in 1854. I have been hampered
because on various documents
here, her name is shown as CREON/CRANE/CRYAN
and even CRYING
My
problem is that I have no idea of
Catherine's maiden name, age, or
place
of birth. Here are the conflicting
Certificates
all isuued in Australia
where she married an Englishman:
Marriage Cert. 1855 Age shown
21 ie born C
1834
Maiden Name
CREON
Father
Paul
Mother
Winifred ( Lonsey)
Born
Roscommon Co.
Son's Birth Cert 1877 Age 40 ie
born C 1837
Maiden
Name
CRYAN
Born
Mayswell Kentucky USA
Death Cert 1907 Age 69
ie born Circa
1838
Maiden
Name
CRANE
Father
Paul
Mother
Winifred (Lawrence)
Born
Maysville Mason Co.Kentucky
So, there you have all the data that I have. I
suspect that she lied about
her age when married as she was probably only
17/18. The other 2 Certs
indicate her birth as 1837/8
If you have any ideas/suggestions, these would
be greatly welcomed. I am
also on the Roscommon list, Kentugky census
look
up list and Mason County
list. There are some entries, close, but not
exact. The one consistent
thing
is that Catherine's mother's name is Winifred.
Cheers, Bob
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Crean family motto:
Cor mundum crea in me Deus
From: "Bob Cunning"
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Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2004 21:09:08 +1100
To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
Subject: [Cryan et al.] CREON or CRYAN
Hello from Melbourne.I have been searching for
many years and now am
asking your help.
My relative is shown as Catherine CRYAN, but
on her marriage Cert. it is
CREON. Father Paul, a farmer. Mother Winifred
(nee Lonsey), place of
birth
Roscommon. DOB circa 1838
It is said that the family migrated to USA
when Catherine was 'little'.
This may be true as her death
Cert shows
birthplace as Maysville
Kentucky.
A Grand Aunt always said that
Catherine was
Irish. Catherine married
Charles
WELCH in Melbourne in 1855.
I am also on the ROSCOMMDN , Kentucky Censusus
look up and Kentucky Mason
County lists.
I do hope someone can assist me. Cheers, Bob.
From: "Patrick Cryans"
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Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2004 17:24:08 -0000
To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
Subject: [Cryan et al.] POOR LAW RECORDS
Hi
Can anyone help me? i am trying to find
where i
can access the Poor Law records for
Boyle( which
also covers part of South Sligo about
1840-1850.
Patrick)
From: "Thomas Crane"
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Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2004 00:13:00 -0600
To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
Subject: [Cryan et al.] Fw: Something To
Pass The Time
Greetings Fellow Listers,
Since you all seem to be such a loving
and
understanding group of people, I thought
that I would
forward a message that I sent to another
person on
another list. The subject matter had been old
time radio and the various programs
that, as
children, we all listened to. If anything, I would
just like to evoke some emotional
understanding,
which you all no doubt have as you
conduct your own
research, towards the genealogical
process that
we all enjoy.
Best wishes,
Tom Crane
Don, I do believe in everything that you
say. If
you do not mind, I wish to elaborate a
bit on
what you did say about the creative
process and
imagination and especially as it applies
to
genealogy.
As one delves into the genealogical
process, one
has to have an imaginative mind
otherwise, it
becomes nothing more than fitting
together of pieces
in a puzzle. In terms of roots or genealogy, a
pattern appears to develop in the
thinking of a
person who indulges in such endeavors as
they are
not only able to become involved in the
past but
rather they begin to understand the
placement of
one's own ancestors in the context of
the
conditions under which they once
lived.
As far as I am concerned, the movie,
"Somewhere
In Time," was not only a love story
that took
place over time, but an exercise in the
genealogical
process.
Although the character that was played
by Christopher Reeve appeared to travel
back in
time in order to meet the beautiful Jane
Seymour,
he did, in reality, engage in the
genealogical
process in order to place himself in
that time
warp.
In order to accomplish this task, he had to
know or understand what life might have
been like
in that era of the past. He did not simply
recreate the past, rather, he lived it.
When one stands before the burial place
of some
long forgotten ancestor and reads the
inscription
written on a tombstone, does one merely
copy the
time and place or does one conjure up
the image
of the person who might have been? Remember, it
will not be long before the person who
gazes down
upon that grave will someday occupy a
similar
resting place and for all of
eternity. What
memories of the past will that person
who occupies that
grave wish to convey to someone in the
future
other than the inscription that is
written on his or
her tomb?
Picture a child hiding in a bomb shelter
beneath
the ground seeking shelter from the
bombs that
are not only destroying his home, but
his country
as well.
His only contact with the outside world
comes in the form of a radio program
beamed
across the ocean from a place where
children are
safely tucked in a nice warm bed. What memories does
that radio program evoke from the past
in that
person's mind and even more importantly,
will
someone from the future even be able to
understand?
Will some genealogist simply record his
name on a
chart along side of others or will they
attempt
to know the child that once was and the
"shadows"of his past? (* Here I made reference to "The
Shadow" radio program which someone
had listened to
during the Battle of Britain in the
Second World
War).
Another person wrote on this website
that they
lived in the country where no
electricity was
available, hence, they did not have the
pleasure of
listening to a childhood radio
program. In effect,
that person asked if he might have been
deprived
of that pleasure while others conveyed
great
delight in re-creating or discussing
radio programs
from the past. Might we then might ask some Amish
child if he felt deprived because he
lived where
only the rudiments of modern day society
exist.
His father plows the ground with horses
in a
fashion that his Amish ancestors did
hundreds of
years ago. To delve into genealogy one must have the
imagination to try to understand what it
is that
an Amish person experiences as he looks
and prays
to his God while, at the same time,
relinquishing
all of the outside distractions that
could
possibly diminish his subservience to
his Creator.
Henry Z. Jones, Jr. has written a rather
enlightening book that has to do with
the imaginative or
psychic process in genealogy. The title of his
book is, "More Psychic Roots"
and is sub-titled,
"Further Adventures in Serendipity
& Intuition in
Genealogy." Mr. Jones has given me the honor
and pleasure of his having quoted from
my own book
as to some of the experiences that I had
in
searching for my own family's past. While my book is
posted on the WWW for all to read,
"Free Of
Charge," I will, never-the-less
withhold its title
only to say that it can be researched by
merely
entering my name; that is, Thomas J.
Crane. I
mention this to you because I do believe
whole-hardly
that there is dimension beyond that
which exists
within our everyday lives. By using one's
imagination, because it is through this
process that the
mind begins to explore avenues that
others might
not even know exist, one can slip the
bounds
limit us.
In closing, I am reminded of a
television program
that was once popular many years
ago. The name
of the program was, "Dragnet,"
and the character
of Sergeant Friday was played by Jack
Webb. One
of the most famous lines that came from
that
program was, "Just the facts, Mam;
just the facts."
This leads me to ask, will we simply
employ
Officer Friday's methodology in the
recording of
genealogical information or will we seek
to know and to
understand the person whose name that we
are
recording?
Best wishes to All,
Tom Crane
From: "Bob Cunning"
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Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2005 23:46:01 +1100
To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
Subject: [Cryan et al.] Catherine Cryan
Hello from Australia. I am trying to find
relatives of Catherine who came
to
Australia in 1854. I have been hampered
because on various documents
here, her name is shown as CREON/CRANE/CRYAN and
even CRYING
My problem is that I have no idea of
Catherine's
maiden name, age, or
place
of birth. Here are the conflicting
Certificates all isuued in
Australia where she married an Englishman:
Marriage Cert. 1855 Age shown 21 ie born C
1834
Maiden
Name
CREON
Father
Paul
Mother
Winifred ( Lonsey)
Born
Roscommon Co.
Son's Birth Cert 1877 Age 40 ie
born C 1837
Maiden
Name
CRYAN
Born
Mayswell Kentucky USA
Death Cert 1907 Age 69 ie born
Circa 1838
Maiden
Name
CRANE
Father
Paul
Mother
Winifred (Lawrence)
Born
Maysville Mason Co.Kentucky
So, there you have all the data that I have. I
suspect that she lied about
her age when married as she was probably
only
17/18. The other 2 Certs
indicate her birth as 1837/8
If you have any ideas/suggestions, these would
be greatly welcomed. I am
also on the Roscommon list, Kentugky
census look
up list and Mason County
list. There are some entries, close, but
not
exact. The one consistent
thing
is that Catherine's mother's name is
Winifred.
Cheers, Bob