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25th June 1904.
THREATENING LANGUAGE.
Thomas Cryan, Clogher, steward on Coolavin
estate,
summond Thomas Cryan (John) of same name, for
threatening language and to recover the amount
of
13s.6d. lent cash and sought to have defendant
bound
to the peace .There was a cross case for
threatening
to shoot, and for the wages due to defendant .
Mr. MacDermot appeared for the complainant.
Complainant, in reply to Mr. MacDermot
complained
to
the steward on the Coolavin Estate.
He came in contact with the man in the course
of
his
duties, gives him work and let him […]. There
was
a
dispute some time ago about measurement and
ill
feeling exists since. On 6th.May complainant
was
on
his usual rounds, when he met the defendant.
They
had
some hot words, and defendant drew a bottle of
whiskey
from his pocket and swore by --- [sic] he'd
dash
out
his brains on the road.
Mr. Kilbride ------That frightened you
entirely
(laughter)? -----yes. Defendant took a handful
of
silver from his pocket and dared me to take my
half
crown. He came to my house on five occasions
when
he
was drunk. He is a persecution to my wife and
children.
Defendant-----Didn't I demand wages from you
that
evening? --- No.
Mr. Kilbride (to complainant) do you owe him
anything?
----No.
Mrs. Honoria Cryan , wife of complainant
corroborated.
The cross-case was then taken up.
Cryan (the defendant) deposed that this man
threatened
to shoot him, and defendant said, "Oh,
begorra,
maybe
you wouldn't (laughter). I asked him to give
me
the
money due to me.
Mr. Kilbride --- is it not true that he paid
you
the
sum of 13s. 6d. for 3 days ? ----No.
Complainant produced a book showing that the
amount
was paid.
Defendant-----That I may die before I go home
if
you
did (laughter)
Mr. Kilbride ---- Did you borrow 2s.6d. from
this
man? ---No.
Complainant-----Why did you take out a handful
of
silver and dare me to take my half-crown?
----I
did
not.
Complainant -----I declare you did.
Defendant ---I declare you didn't (loud
laughter).
Mr. McDermott --- Were you ever summoned for
beating
your father? ----I might be (laughter).
Will you deny beating him? --- I wont deny it
(laughter) but I'm not going to tell on myself
(loud
laughter).
Mr. Kilbride said he believed the sum of 13s.
6d.
was
paid to the defendant, as Mr. Cryan's book
seems
to be
well kept, and the case of Thos. Cryan (John)
against
Thos Cryan for the wages would be dismissed
also
the
case of threatening to shoot. He would be
bound
to
keep the peace for twelve months himself in
£10
and
two sureties of £5 each. The Bench also gave a
decree
for 2s 6d. and 3s costs.
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Roscommon Herald Articles No. 118
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8th October 1904.
THE SALARIES:
The clerk read the following:-
Local Government Board.
"
"Sir---I am directed by the local
Government for
minutes of proceedings of the Board of
Guardians
of
Boyle
had
under consideration the report of the
committee
appointed to deal with the circular letter of
the
local government Board of the 8th ult.
relative
to
increases in the salaries of Union officers
and
in
reference and thereto I am to state the Board
considered it advisable to leave to each Board
of
Guardians the matter of fixing a scale of
salaries for
their own officers and that the scale was
suggested as
a means of insuring that increases of salaries
should
be granted in a regular way, and without being
influenced by personal considerations, except
of
course the question as to whether the others
discharged their duties satisfactorily. It was
not
contemplated that a scale should be formulated
binding
on a number of Unions schemes which would
present
considerable difficulties. The Board would,
however be
very pleased to supply any information in
their
power
which the Guardians consider would be
serviceable
in
framing the proposed scale for the
requirements
of the
Boyle Union, the guardians might, therefore,
taking
into consideration the salaries paid to the
several
officers in the
which
would fulfill the requirements mentioned
above.
The
Board would prefere to wait the completion of
such a
scale before sanctioning any increases of
salaries to
Union Officers but they would be prepared then
to
allow the increase which the Guadians now
propose to
grant to certain officers to antedate
from the time they were voted by the
guardians.
I am sir, your obededient servant.
A.R. BARLAS, Asistant sec.,
The Clerk, Boyle
Clerk-----Well gentlemen, what will you do
with
this
letter?
Mr.Travers-----We are a very small board to go
into
that matter today, and I suggest it be
adjourned
for
a month or summon a board in the meantime.
That
would
be the best way to do business.
Chairman-----You are perfectly right, this is
a
very
small board to deal with a matter of that kind.
The
increases are neither granted nor rejected
yet.
Mr. Travers--- is it left in the hands of the
guardians.
Mr. Cryan-----I do not see why you should
adjourn
it.
It is only ordinary business. and we meet to
transact
it every Saturday.
Mr. Travers said it was too grave a matter to
deal
with that today.
Chairman-----What do you say Mr. Odbert?
Clerk----It is for the board, and not for me.
Mr. Travers----Adjourn it.
Chairman---- It is a question for a full board
to
consider.
Mr. Keenan-----There should be a summoned
board
to
consider it.
Mr. Cryan----What do you want with a summoned
board?
Mr. Travers----To consider that matter. What
we
have
done is not sanctioned by the local Government
Board.
It is still in the hands of the Board.
Mr. Cryan said he was in favour of dealing
with
every
question as it came before the meeting.
Clerk----- you will have to summon a Board to
do
the
salaries.
Mr. Cryan----Probably. I will be in Sligo next
on
next
Saturday at the meeting of the Proposal
Committee.
Chairman-----How long will I adjourn it for ?
Mr. Cryan ----The country people say we are
always
doing things by halves.
Mr. Travers----When every guardian gets notice
on
this
subject, they will attend .
Chairman----If you deal with it now, other
guardians
will say "What right had your small Board
to go
into
such an important matter as that?
Mr. Travers----There will a meeting of the
Rural
District Council on next Saturday and it would
be
a
sauitable day.
Chairman---Send out notices for this day week.
Mr. Mullany----Give a fortnight's notice. It
would not
be sufficient to give only weeks notice.
According to
the Local Government Act, you must give
fourteen
days
notice.
Clerk---- It is not my doing.
Mr. Mullany----It will still be an illegal
procedure
if you do not give the legal time and notice.
Clerk-----Any letter from the local Government
Board
can be considered on the day it comes in.
Mr. Mullany---This is a very important matter,
and it
is better to give plenty of time to it.
Chairman-----How long do you suggest Mr.
Mullany?
Mr. Mullany----Say a month.
Mr. Travers----Hit on the proper time.
Mr. Mullany----Give every man time to make up
his
mind
what he will do.We will leave it deal with the
circular relative to the increasing of Union
Officers
salaries.
Mr. Travers----- They will either be increased
or
decreased when the scale is fixed.
Chairman------This day week will be meeting
day
for
No:1 Council.
Mr. Mullany----That wont do, there is always
too
much
business to be done at District Council
Meetings.
It
is very important and it is better give it
time.
If
you give a month's notice you will have no
cranks
like
myself complaining (laughter).
Master---- As far as I am concerned I do not
want
to
go any further with it.
Boyle Union have the lowest average cost in
Ireland,
being only 6s.... per head.
He had nothing to say to the Guardians, but
the
Local
Government Board treated him badly.
Mr. Mullany----The mistake was to put in many
officers
together.
Every member of the Board knows they are most
deserving officers, but each officer should be
taken
separately.
Mr.Travers----- It should be considered in
another
way.
Mr. Mullany------A Journey for a month, the
Board
to
be summoned to consider it and that would
settle
it.
Mr. Cryan----They are very deserving officers,
but a
general increase did not look well.
Chairman----It is the local Government Board
Office
they must blame.
It was unanimously agreed to summon a Board to
consider the circular of that day month.
Mr. Pete Lenaghan stated that in consequence
of
the
letter from the local Government Board he
would
withdraw his notice of motion relative to the
increasing of the officers salary.
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18th February,1882.
BOYLE BOARD OF GUARDIANS.
THE SEED RATE.
[…]
Clerk - This letter is in the handwriting of a
lady,
and I have a letter from John Mulloy stating
he is
not security at all and, and threatening
proceedings
against me. I dont say it is the Ballyfermoyle
man,
but a John Mulloy is security, whoever he is.
The Clerk then read a copy of the reply which
the
Local Government Board sent to Messrs Mulloy
and
Walsh, stating that it is the duty of the rate
collectors to use every means in their power
to
collect the Seed Rate as made and assessssed
by
the
Board of Guardians, and that the Local Government
Board cannot interfere.
Clerk - I suppose the board will mark their
letter
"read".
Mr. Mulhall - It is a very serious charge they
make.
Clerk - There is no foundation for it. I am
happy
to
say that we have not an individual who has
denied, to
my own knowledge getting the seed rate
assessed
with.
Mr. Mulhall - The gentlemen who wrote that
letter
made
a very serious charge.
Chairman - I dont take it to myself for one .
The Clerk read the letter he received from Mr.
John
Mulloy, of Ballyfermoyle, denying that he was
the
surety. The signatures to the two letters were
not the
same. He was looking over the bond, and he
found
the
resideuce was given as Cornacartha.
Mr. Burns - I am guardian for that division,
and
there
is no such man living in that townland.
After a pause, the Clerk said Cryanstown was
the
place
this John Mulloy lived in.
Mr. Patterson said there was such a man as
John
Mulloy
of Cryanstown.
The letters were marked "read".
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Roscommon Herald Articles No. 120
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4th November,1882.
THE HOMICIDE OF THOMAS HUNT.
On last Wednesday an investigation was held in
the
Boyle Courthouse, at the termination of the
Petty
Sessions business, into the homicide of the
small
farmer, Thomas Hunt, at Mockmoyne on the 2nd
of
October last. Mr. Hackett, who was chairman at
the
Petty Sessions, occupied the chair in the
magistrate's
room, and the representative of the journal
having
applied that the Press should be addmitted,
Mr.
Hackett said he saw no objection to the
proceedings
being published. Major Robertson and Mr.Mayne,
R.M.,
who were the other magistrates present, then
left
the room and consulted together for some time
in
an
adjoining apartment. After a short interval
the
Head
Constable asked Mr. Hackett, the Petty
Sessions
Clerk,
and solicitors engaged in the cases, to walk
into
the
second room. Major Robertson moved Mr. Mayne
to
the
chair, and an application being made to havee
the
Press admitted Major Robertson refused it.
Mr.Hackett
then left the place and declined to identify
himself
any further with the proceedings. Mr. Randal
Peyton,
Crown Prosecutor , conducted the case for the
authorities, and Mr. Farrell McDonnell,
solicitor,
Roscommon, and another legal gentleman,
defended
the
accused parties. Informations in the case have
been
lodged against Thomas Kennedy, John Kennedy,
James
Cryan, Thomas Cryan and John Cryan of
Ballinultha.
Thomas Kennedy and James Cryan were brought up
in
custody from Roscommon Jail where they had
been
detained on remand and the others surrendered
to
bail.
The inquiry lasted over three hours and it is
understood that important evidence was
tendered
by the
Cryans. The magistrates decided to admit all
the
accused to bail except Thomas Kennedy, who was
remanded to Roscommon Jail, and the
investigation
was
adjourned until Tuesday.
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23rd December,1882.
CONNAUGHT WINTER ASSIZES.
Sligo, Monday.
CHARGE OF MURDER.
Thomas Kennedy was indicted for the murder of
Thomas
Hunt, on the 2nd October last. He pleaded
"Not
guilty,"
and was defended by Mr. Kelly, instructed by
Mr.
Walsh of Sligo.
Sergeant Robinson and The MacDermott, Q.C.
(instructed
by Mr. Randal Peyton), procecuted on behalf of
the
Crown.
A special jury tried the case.
Andrew McElroy examined by Sergeant Robinson,
said - I
live within three miles of Boyle county
Roscommon. On
the 2nd October last I was in Boyle, and I
left
the
town a little after nine o'clock at night.
I was accompanied homeward by Nicholas Carty
and
Michael O'Gara. As we went towards Mockmoyne I
heard
a noise on the road, and when we came near to
the
residence of Mr.Hopkins we saw a crowd before
us.
We then met three men - Thomas Kennedy (the
prisoner's
brother), and a man named Brennan - and
shortly
after
we passed them we came to a place where there
was
a
man lying on the road. That was about fifteen
yards
further on beyond the place where we met
Brennan
and
the Kennedys. When we came up to the man we
struck
matches and we saw that he was Thomas Hunt. In
my
opinion he was dead then. Before we came up to
him I
heard a sound like that which would be caused
by
blows
of a stick. I heard the sound twice, The only
other
people I saw on the road then, in addition to
the
three men we met were men before going home
from
the
fair. The three men were stooped when I saw
them
first, and appeared to be looking for
something
the
roadside. Carty asked the Kennedys and Brennan
if
they knew the man who was lying on the road,
and
the
prisoner's brother said "no".
Cross examined by Mr. Kelly - That answer was
given
before the matches were lighted. A great
number
of
people were charged with this offence. A man
named
McElroy, a cousin of my own, was charged with
it.
Nicholas Carty, examined by The MacDermott,
Q.C.,
said
- I was with the last witness leaving the fair
of
Boyle on the night of the 2nd October last.
When
we
came near to the place where Hunt was lying on
the
road we met the Kennedys and Brennan, and some
one of
the three said he did not know the man who was
lying.
McElroy said "it was not the place to
leave a man
lying on the road," O'Gara lighted a
match, and
it was
then seen that there was blood on Hunt's left
nostril,
and he appeared to be dead.
Cross-examined by Mr. Kelly - I think there
was a
fourth man along with the Kennedys and
Brennan.
John Cryan , exanined by Sergeant Robinson,
said
- I
left the October fair of Boyle with James
Cryan,
Thomas and Winifred Cryan. After we had gone a
short
distance out of the town we saw some men on
the
road
before us. When we came near to them a man
named
Toolan said he was about to be beaten on his
brother-in-law's account.
Toolan and a man named McGowan then had a
squabble and
the deceased came up just then. When he came
up
Thomas
Kennedy struck him on the back of the head and
knocked
him down. Kennedy then said - "I gave him
that,
and
long I watched for him ". I did not see
any
blow
struck but one, and after receiving that blow
Hunt
spoke a word. Winifred Cryan said to the
prisoner
"O
Thomas, what is that you have done."
Cross-examined by Mr. Kelly - I was myself
charged
with this offence, and my brother was arrested
and in
gaol at the time I gave this information.
Thomas Cryan said - Thomas Kennedy raised his
hand,
and gave Hunt a slight tip first, and Hunt
turned
round and said, "I am struck. Kennedy
struck him
again on the back of the head, and he fell;
and
Kennedy then turned round, and either said,
"I
had it
in for him," or "I watched
him."
Cross-examined by Mr. Kelly - I was arrested,
but
admitted to bail for this offence.
To the MacDermott, Q.C. - The Kennedys said
they
would
shoot me, or I would be shot, if I did not
keep
quiet.
Winifred Cryan said - I am the prisoner's
first
cousin. On the night of the 2nd October, when
I
was
going home with my husband and others from the
fair of
Boyle, I saw a crowd of people on the road at
Mockmoyne. Two men, named Toolan and McGowan,
had
been
fighting , and when the row was going on,
Thomas
Kennedy aimed a blow at Hunt, the deceased,
and
when
Hunt was "settling" himself on his
feet again,
Kennedy
gave him a second blow, and knocked him down.
Kennedy then leaped back on the road and said,
"I
gave
him that." John Kennedy asked the
prisoner, when
he
leaped back on the road, if anyone had
attempted
to
strike him. Nobody went to his assistance.
Cross examined by Mr. Kelly - I saw the
deceased
taking hold of James Cryan's throat in
Back-lane,
in
the town of Boyle about four o'clock in the
afternoon
of the fair day. James Cryan did not say then
that he
would have satisfaction.
James Cryan stated that when he met Thomas
Hunt
in
Boyle fair he asked him for money he owed him.
Hunt
said he had none to give him, and witness said
he
would process or summon him to petty sessions
to
recover the amount. Hunt caught him by the
necktie but
witness did not threaten him then; neither did
he
strike him at a later period during the
evening
or
night.
Dr.O'Farrell described the wounds inflicted on
the
deceased. There was a punctured wound on the
back
of
his head, and opposite that wound there was a
bruise
running from the bridge of his to his right
eyebrow
causing a fissure in the bone, and opposite
this
wound
on the temple there was a clot of blood on the
brain.
The wound on the back of the head was the one
(in
the
doctor's opinion) that caused death. It was
punctured,
and appeared to have been made with a sharp
stone
or
pointed instrument.
This closed the evidence for the Crown, and
Mr.Kelly
addressed the jury on behalf of the prisoner.
He
submitted that the fatal quarrel on the road
was
the
outcome of the row which was commenced between
Hunt
and James Cryan in the town of Boyle, when
Cryan,
as
would be proved threatened, if he did not get
money,
he would have blood before going home. In the
case of
James Cryan, they had it proved that Hunt owed
him
money; that Hunt assaulted him in Boyle; and
they
would have testimony
to satisfy them that Cryan threatened to be
avenged.
Thomas Keane, examined for the defence, said -
I
was
present in Boyle when James Cryan asked the
deceased,
Thomas Hunt, for some money which he owed him.
Hunt
replied that he had none to give him, and
Cryan
said,
"If you don't give me money, I'll have
blood
before I
go home."
Cross-examined by Sergeant Robinson - There
was a
big
investigation held in the town of Boyle after
this
occurrence, and I made no information. There
was
nothing said by Cryan after he asked for the
money
about a summons or process. The conversation
took
place not in Back-lane, but in Bridge Street.
Mr. Justice Lawson - in Bridge-street, did you
say? -
Yes.
Was Winifred Cryan there? - No.
Mr. Justice Lawson - Well, I believe you were
not
there at all.
Mr. John McKeon said he was with the Kennedys
on
this
night. When they came within a short distance
of
where
a row was going on, on the road, John Kennedy
left his
brother, (the prisoner) behind him with
witness,
and
he went to see if he would know any of the
parties.
When John came back again, witness went home,
and
the
Kennedys remained behind.
John Kennedy said - On the night of the 2nd
October I
accompanied my brother home from Boyle fair.
The
Cryans passed us on the road, and joined a
party
before us. Shortly afterwards I noticed that
the
parties before us appeared to be striking each
other.
I heard a voice saying - "Let him
out." I told my
brother to stop with McKeon until I would see
if
I
knew any of the parties. I went on towards the
crowd;
and a stone was thrown up beside me. I called
"Which
of you is pegging the stones?" and I got
no
answer. I
went up to within four yards of the men, and I
saw
Thomas Hunt standing along with the Cryans. I
saw
him
get a blow which knocked him into middle of
the
road,
and I then turned back to my brother, and told
him
that I had seen a man knocked down. Before
turning
back, however, I had seen Michael McGowan
going
across
the road and giving Thomas Hunt (who had been
knocked
down) a kick where he lay.
Sergeant Robinson - There is not one word of
this
in
the printed statement of the witness.
Witness - If necessary I can tell who knocked
Thomas
Hunt down.
Mr. Kelly - Well, who did it?
Witness - I was threatened up to this, but I
won't be
threatened any longer. James Cryan is the man
who
knocked him down.
Mr. Justice Lawson - You have relieved your
conscience
now.
Witness - Thomas Cryan threatened me.
When I went to his house for boots he said
"If
you
hold your tongue, nothing can be done; but, if
you
open your mouth, I'll shoot you."
Cross-examined by Sergeant Robinson - Your
brother was
not afraid to go up to the crowd? He was
afraid
myself. I can't answer why one coward went on
and
left
two cowards behind.
Did you know it was Hunt who was struck when
you
saw
him down? -Yes, I did.
Did you ever swear "I did not know it was
Hunt
until
Carty and McElroy came up?" - I don't
know that
I
did.
Did you ever swear this, "I can't say
Hunt was
struck
more than once; I can't say that it was the
Cryan
who
knocked him down ,
I was threatened that I would be shot.
Mr. Justice Lawson said he had read the
information
made by the witness, and in it he had not said
a
word
about the presence of McKeon on this night.
The evidence having concluded,
Mr. Kelly again addressed the jury for the
prisoner,
and Sergeant Robinson replied, pointing out
the
salient points of the Crown case, and the one
reliable
and inconsistent character of the evidence
tendered on
behalf of the accused.
There were some circumstances in the case
which
reduced the case to manslaughter; and if the
jury
agreed in that view, the Crown would be
satisfied.
Mr. Justice Lawson in charging the jury, said
it
would
be very desirable if an example could be made
of
some
of the witnesses, by prosecuting them for
perjury.
The Jury found the prisoner guilty of
manslaughter.
Thomas Kennedy found guilty of manslaughter of
Thomas
Hunt, was sentenced to five years penal
servitude.
Owen Dodd pleaded "Guilty" to an
indictment
charging
him with having stolen a quantity of wool, the
property of Mr. James Ward, of Kingsland,
Boyle.
He
was sentenced to six months' imprisonment.
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Hi
This letter and form statement were written by
my
grand uncle Patrick James Cryan as part of his
application for the Service (1917-1921) Medal.
I
am posting it to show the kinds of material it
is
possible to find from diverse sources. I had
checked the army archives but recently
discovered that
the Pensions Administration Section of the
Department of Defence, Aras an tSaile,
Renmore, Galway
contained archives of pension and medal
applications.
Caoimhghin
Thanks to Veronica Cryan for the typing
M.D. 2934.
With reference to the requirement to indicate
the
Fianna Battalion on Sluagh Officer for 3
months
ending 11/7/21, I beg leave to submit the
following;-
On the occasion of the split in the Irish
National Volunteers in 1914, a small number of
us sided
with the Irish Volunteers and participated in
all
parades and route marches under the then
Volunteer
Commandant; Diarmuid O'Connell. Our own O/C.
was then, and up
to 1920, Maurice Griffin.
In 1918, Diammuid O'Riordan took over as
Volunteer Commandant, and I was instructed to
accompany him
and three other Volunteers in a rural
collection of
money for the purchase of arms. Later that
year, we as
a unit under our own O/C , took part in field
manoeuvres carried out by the First Battalion.
Following on
this operation, the Brigade Commandant as well
some
Battalion and Company Officers were arrested
and
imprisoned. During their imprisonment, we
formed
part of a Volunteer/Fianna/Cumann na mBan
operation to
save their crops and harvest.
In 1919 we also formed part of a
Volunteer/Fianna
exercise in the seizure of the town
(Caherciveen)
band instruments which were being retained by
the
National Volunteers, and secured them for the
use of the
of the Irish Volunteers. We also continued
attending
meetings and carried out field exercises under
our own
officers - Maurice Griffin, Sean O'Shea, David
Cremin,
etc.,
In 1920, Maurice Griffin was transferred to
the
Volunteers and was replaced as O/C Fianna by
Sean
O'Shea. Later that year our collective
activities
became more difficult, and from then until the
Truce we acted mostly individually in
co-operation with
Brigade, Battalion and Company Volunteer
Officers.
For instance, early in 1921, I was informed by
the Battalion Adjutant (John Curran) that he
had an
important document of which he required some
urgent typed copies. This document was in fact
a copy of
a secret directive from the Inspector-General,
R.I.C. (which has been intercepted by the
Dublin
Intelligence unit) ordering the seizure of all
Motor Cars,
Motor Bicycles and Bicycles). I produced the
required
copies and we despatched them immediately,
resulting there from, all available such
vehicles was
seized by the Volunteers on the following
night.
The R.I.C. reaction to this operation was an
attempted round-up of the Volunteer Officers
but all those
wanted evaded and went on the run later to
form
the Brigade Flying Column. A month or so later
(May,
1921) the Company Adjutant (Patrick Gilsenan)
told me
he was to make contact with the Column and
wished me to
accompany him. On arrival he went into session
with the Column Officers and on our way back
he
informed me of planned action to take effect
within a few
days. Three days later, I, with another Fianna
member,
John Griffin, were instructed to keep the
R.I.C.
Barracks under surveillance. By pre-arranged
signal we
indicated to Col. Michael Foley the advance of
three armed policemen. He, in turn passed the
information to Vol. Jesse O'Donoghue, who
informed the waiting
ambush party of the position. About eight
minutes later
they went into action, but were handicapped by
a
little girl having entered the line of fire
and being
slightly wounded. The R.I.C. party dashed into
a
public house and escaped by the back entrance,
making their way across fields back to the
barracks, one
of them having received a leg wound.
At no time were we of sufficient members to
form
a Battalion.
Patrick J. Cryan.
Ref. No: 3507.
APPLICATION FOR MEDAL.
Give full particulars and nature of service
rendered up to and including the 11th July,
1921:-
I became a member of Fianna Eireann on the
occasion of the "Split" in the
Volunteers in, as far as I can
remember, 1913. Mr. Diarmuid O'Connell, whose
present address is the "The Irish
House", Caherciveen,
Co. Kerry. was the newly elected Commandant of
the
Irish Volunteers and will, I feel sure vouch,
for my
activities up to the time of his arrest in
1917.
During that period I took part in every
activity
of the local section of Fianna Eireann, which
consisted mostly of route-marching. Mr.
Diarmuid O'Riordan
(now of the Kerry Cow Dairy, Cloghran. Co. Dublin,
took over from Mr. O'Connell in 1917 and he is
aware
of my activities in the collections for arms,
assistance in the organised saving of crops,
etc., of
imprisoned Volunteers, the carrying of
despatches, etc.,
etc., Of the small number of active members of
the
Fianna then with me almost all are deceased or
have
emigrated. The only Fianna Officer available
is
Mr. Sean O'Shea, c/o. Mr. D. O'Donaghue, West
Main
St., Caherciveen, Co. Kerry. Of the few
survivors of
the 3rd Brigade Staff for whom I worked Mr.
Muiris
O'Cleirigh, Sec. Gaelic League, Tralee, Co.
Kerry
is one in a position to certify my membership
of and
activities with the Fianna. During 1920-1921 I
was on many occasions engaged in the carrying
of
despatches to the Column on Active Service and
participated
ins the noting of movements of members of the
Crown
Forces.
Full Christian Name: PATRICK JAMES CRYAN
(In Block Capitals)
Present Address: Garda Siocanna H. Qrs.,
Kilmainham,
Dublin.
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A.BOYLE.
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Mr. John
Cryan, T.C. Vice Regal Bar, Boyle, Appealed against the decision of the court
below dismissing a claim for £10 for the malicious killing of a ram,
applicant's property at Langnamuddagh near Boyle.
Mr. P.G.P.
MacDermot ---That case has been withdrawn.
Lord Chief
Baron --- Do you want costs?
Mr. P.C.P.
MacDermot --- No costs, my lord.
Lord Chief
Baron --- You want an order and costs?
Mr. P.C.P.
MacDermot---- Affirmed no to costs.
The Lord
Chief Baron affirmed the damage and allow no costs.
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28th
January, 1904.
FRIDAY.
BIG
CARROWREAGH MALICIOUS
INJURY
CASE.
Malicious
Injury:
Pat
Cryan, Carrowreagh, near Killucan, sought to
recover
£50 compensation for a quantity of hay,
his
property,
being maliciously burned on the 26th
September.
Mr.
M. McKeon, solicitor, appeared for the
applicant,
and
Mr. P.O.P. MacDermot for the Carrick
No.2.District
Council.
Patrick
Cryan , in reply to Mr. McKeon deposed he
was
the
applicant, and had lands at Carrowreagh.
He
farmed
about 70 acres of land, and he remembered
the
26th
September, the evening before the stack was
burned.
This hay he was seeking compensation for
was
away
from his home in a field. On the morning of
the
27th
at about eight oclock Mrs. Calery came
and
told
him
about the burning. When he went down the hay
was
burnt
in a few feet from top to bottom, and it
was
all
ablaze.
The Morning was fine and he did his best
to
save
it. There was a fence around the hay, barbed
wire
etc., and one portion of that was broken down.
The
act
must have been mallicious, and more than one
person
must have committed the act, owing to the
extent
of the destruction. He was and ther were
fourteen
tons of hay consumed and if was worth
3s.6d.
a
cwt where it was, and it was also the last wisp
of
hay
he ever saved.
To
Mr. McDermot --- I am afraid I have not
claimed
enough,
and in concequence of the burning of this
hay,
I
could not sell some of my bullocks.
Can
you show any malice of any sort against you?
I
dont
think so.
Had
you a word with any of your neighbours ?
I
may
have.
It shows you I have enemies.
Mr.
Brennan, the District Councellor, a good
neighbour,
who is to give eveidence ? He is a
fince
neighbour
to come up and go against me.
As
District Councellor, should he let you get a
false
claim?
---- I have no false claim.
A
District Councellor should let you get £50 for
the
hay
that we say that went on fire itself.
Cryan
said he let matter go for too long as a
mare
that
was worth £50, a few years ago
had her knee cut clean through, and about
three
years
ago
four men came to the door and said they would
burn
the
house under him. Then they drove out three of
his
horses
and cut the knee out of one of them.
Mr.
Watson , V.H. could bear him out in his
statement.
Mr.
MacDermot --- Have you him here ----No
Serjeant
MacElroy deposed he heard of the
burning
about
two o'clock in the evening of the 27th ,
and
on
examining
of the scene of the occurence he saw a
hanged
cock of the saved hay?
Judging
from the appearance of the hay he
thought
there
would be about ten tons originally in the
cock
of
which there were eight tons destroyed and two
saved.
The hay smelled very strongly of smoke.
To
his Lordship. I am a judge of hay and it
appeared
to
be [...]
By
Mr. Mckeon , I cannot say if the hay went on
fire
itself.
To
Mr. McDermot, I cannot say if the fence was
broken
down
by the people trying to save the hay. Cryan
is
a
popular
man in the district.
Owen
Travers, in reply to Mr. Mckeon deposed
to
endevouring
to save his hay.
There
should be at least ten tons of hay in the
cock.
To
Mr. MacDermot ----- I dont say what was the
quality
of
the hay.
Mr.
James Brennan Q.C. deposed that he and Cryan
were
good
neighbours and there was not the slightest
ill
feeling
against him in the locallity. He did not
hear
of
any of the outrages Cryan complained of , but
he
knew
of a foal of his was killed once by
lightening
.
Witness
and the neighbours helped to put out the
fire.
Altogether
there would be about seven and [sic]
eight
tons of hay in the cock. The hay was of bad
quality.
To
Mr. McKeon----I saw a good deal later
hay
bought
at
the Carrick market for 16d a cwt.
It
is not because when there is a glut of it in
the
market
they sell it at any price before they
bring
it
home
? No.
Mr.
McDermot said there was no evidence to show
that
the
act was malicious and the ratepayers were not
an
Insurance
Company, and compelled to pay for every
accident
that orrured .
Mr.
McKeon submitted that the act was wanton, and
the
lads
were clear on that point and pointed to
malice
.
No-one
could come to that conclusion on the
evidence,
that
the burning was a result of an accident.
His
Lordship said his mind was not altogether
free
from
doubt on the matter. As a juror, he came to
the
opinion
that the hay must have been deliberately
and
maliciously
set on fire. He agreed that what
Mr.Brennan
said, that the hay could not have gone
on
fire,
except struck by lightening. Mr. Brennan
had
only
done his duty to the ratepayers in
coming
forward
and giving his evidence, and he had given
the
court
much assistance. He would allow £15
compensation,
to be levied off the Carrick on
Shannon
No.3.Rural
District, and allow costs and
expenses.