From: "Bob
Cunning" <rcunning@ozemail.com.au> | This is Spam | Add to Address Book
Date: Fri,
9 Aug 2002 00:29:37 +1000
Subject: [Cryan
et al.] CATHERINE CRYAN
To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
Hello from
Catherine CRYAN shown on some
records as CRANE and even
CRYING!! She was from Mason County
Kentucky U.S.A.
born circa 1832. Father Paul,
mother Winifred,
nee
researchers. Cheers Bob cunning
Date: Wed,
4 Sep 2002 09:12:19 -0700 (PDT)
From: "edna
fuller" <fuller_edna@yahoo.com> | This is Spam | Add to Address Book
Subject: [Cryan
et al.] My Cryan Family
To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
James Cryan b: ?, m: Mary Phillips
B: ?
Sroove, Monasteraden,
Both died in
Children:
James J. b: 1835, m: Sarah McMahon, d: 1889 in
Lowell, Mass - 10 children
Timothy b: 1837, m: Bridget
Leighton, d:
05/27/1915
Lowell, Mass - 1 child?
Mary b: 1846, d: 1921, Lowell, Mass
Michael b: 1849, m:Bridget Foley,
d: 06/09/1899,
Lowell, Mass - 9 children?
John "Sony" b: 1851 (my
great grandfather) m:
Honora
(Nora) Lavin, d; 1927, Sroove,
Monasteraden,
8 children ?
Thomas b: 1855, m: ?, d: 1910,
Lowell, Mass
Children of John "Sony"
Cryan b: 1851 and Honoria
(Nora) Lavin b: 1844:
All children born in Sroove
Mary b: 1870 (spinster d:1942,
Agnes b: 1874, m: Michael Casey, d:
?,
Honora b: 8/26/1877 (my
grandmother)m:
Lydon,
D; 4/29/1961,
John b: 1880, m: Mary ?, d: ?(maybe
New
Annie b: 1882,m: John Conway,
D:10/19/1957,
Townaghbrack,
James J. (Crane) b: 11/18/1884, m:
single, never
married, d: 10/15/1968,
Thomas b: ? (died in infancy)
Michael b: ? (died in infancy)
Edna Lydon Fuller
Date: Thu,
19 Sep 2002 19:03:02 -0500
From: "Charles
Crain" <ccharlescrain@cox-internet.com> | This is Spam | Add to Address Book
Subject: [Cryan
et al.] william and Jean Crain
To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
I am searching for the Irish
ancestors of my
great-grandfather, William
Crain (b. 17704, Down Co. , Ulster,
Ireland) and
his wife Jean ? .They
immigrated from County Down ,
Ulster, Ireland in
1732 to Pennslyvania in
America. I am told , that many
Irish Crains,
spelled our name Cryan ,and it
was spelled, O'Croidheain, before
it was modified
to be more English, in
it's spelling. Any asistance, you
may give me in
my quest for my Irish
ancestors, will be greatly
appreciated, and very
well received. May God
Bless, Charles Crain.
Frank Newton
<franktor@newton0510.freeserve.co.uk>
Re: Oor
Dougie as a
Cameronian , a clan who are not renowned for
Their mercy, behaved badly toward that Irish
Mercenary
Simon O Croidheain (Anglicised Crean) who
fought with
The remnants of Viscount Dundee's' army ,at the
Battle of Dunkeld in 1689 , by impaling him on
a halbert
(Halberd)?
I have recently spent some time in Birnam and
Dunkeld and tried to find out some more about the above.
The story I got from the information centres and records office is that John
Graham of Claverhouse, otherwise known as Viscount Dundee, raised an army of
highlanders including a large party of Cameronians, and on 27th. July 1689
defeated King William's troops at Killiecrankie.
Dundee died in the battle having been shot.
Part of the victorious army retired to Dunkeld.
In mid August King William raised a new army of some5000 highlanders who
marched on Dunkeld where they laid siege to about 1200 Cameronians.
The king's troops made there way into the streets and the Cameronians took
refuge in the cathedral and nearby mansion house.
The king's troops took refuge in the town houses. After the Cameronians
ammunition ran out they rushed the king's troops, setting fire to the houses
and burning the occupants alive.Those who escaped were chased into the hills.
There is no mention of Simon either at Dunkeld or at the records office in
Perth. It looks as though he fought for the king against Dundee, which is
strange as the king had only recently defeated the Irish in Ireland.
I remarked on the method of his death and one of the assistants at the record
office commented "Why should he get better treatment than the
others?".
It was well known for troops to change sides if a better offer was made or if
the side they were on was losing.
Hope this helps you
Regards
Frank T. Newton
maire1999@aol.com
Homepage Title:
Homepage URL:
Referred By: Search
Engine
Location: Boston,
MA, USA
Comments: I
found a cached email on google that had a marriage announcement of John Cryan
to Eleanor Devine. Her father was Fitzmaurice Devine and his father was Thomas
Devine. Thomas is my great great grandfather. I am descended from Thomas's son,
Peter. Thank you for posting your information as I was able to fill in some
gaps in my genealogy. I found the original information about John and Eleanor
in Devine Genealogy written by Fr. Thomas Fitzstephen Devine. My copy was a
photocopy that a relative in Highwood, Co. Sligo had obtained at one point.
Your website is great. Keep up the good work.
Date: Thu,
24 Oct 2002 05:31:08 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Caoimhghin
O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> | This is Spam | Add to Address Book
Subject: [Cryan
et al.] Roscommon Herald Articles No. 110
To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
Roscommon Herald Articles No. 110
Thanks to Margaret Cryan for the
typing
21 October 1905
The suspended Porter
Costello, the suspended Porter,
made an
application to
the Board to have a cheque made out
for the
finance
day, but not to be given him until
the decision
"re"
the inquiry has been received from
the Local
Government Board.
Mr Jinks said it would not be any
harm to
instruct
their clerk to make out a cheque
for him, and if
the
report came down favourable, he
would get his
money,
otherwise the cheque would be
cancelled. They
should
all admit he was not a man of a big
banking
account.
Mr Cryan said according to wat he
had read, no
charge
could be proven against him.
Mr Jinks -- If he were discharged
tomorrow the
cheque
would cost you nothing.
Mr Hargadon -- You ought to
consider a man like
him,
who has a good many children, and
they should
also
consider his long and faithful
service.
Mr Cryan -- The Local Government
Board should not
delay their decision on the
subject.
Mr Hargadon -- Better not press the
Local
Government
Board.
Mr Cryan -- What are they any more
than us? They
are
always scrutinising us, and we have
no leave to
scrutinise their actions.
The Milk
Mr Cryan proposed -- "That the
Board were of
opinion
that the fine imposed on Contractor
Kelly, for
deficiency in degrees of cream, was
not a just
one,
for two reasons. Firstly, the
sample was taken in
the
hot weather, and secondly, the
lactometer had
been
proven by experts to be useless.
Therefore they
requested that the fine be
remitted."
Mr Ward agreed. The master did not
recognise the
test
for two months of the year.
A Guardian said the fines should be
kept over the
contractors head, in order to
insure good milk
for the
poor people.
Mr Ward said a man was entitled to
the benefit of
the
doubt. From what he had heard, the
standard was
not a
correct one.
Mr Moran said if the standard was
incorrect in
the hot
weather, it was also incorrect in
the cold
weather.
The following order was made: --
"The Board are
of
opinion that the lactometer is not
a reliable
test in
the hot weather, find we,
therefore, ask the
Local
Government Board to remit the fine
imposed on all
milk
contractors."
Date: Thu,
24 Oct 2002 05:35:43 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Caoimhghin
O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> | This is Spam | Add to Address Book
Subject: [Cryan
et al.] burkes-peerage.net
To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
Hi all
I found 5 references to crean at
this site. Here
follows one that I was able to
access.
I have been very busy with other
things but I
will
have loads of articles my mother
has been
steadily
typing away for me on the list
soon....
Could Pat and Margaret contact me
as I dont have
their
email addresses?
thanks
caoimhghin
http://www.burkes-peerage.net/
The Genealogy Register
QUIN OF BALLINACOURTY
SIR STEPHEN BYRNE QUIN, Knt.
(1918), of
Ballinacourty,
Castleconnell, Co Limerick, and
Swinley Wood,
Ascot,Berks, JP, and DL Co
Limerick, High Sheriff 1898,
Mayor of Limerick 1917-18, Member
of the Irish
Convention 1917-18; b 26 Dec 1860;
educ Ushaw
Coll,Durham; m 5 July, 1886, Emma
Mary, dau of
MichaelTheobald Crean,
Barrister-at-Law, and Irish Land
Commisioner, and has had issue,
Lineage-JAMES QUIN, of Glenquin
Castle, Co
Limerick (sof John Quin; b. ca.
1692; d. ca. 1729); b 1720;
m1760, Catherine Mary, dau of
Edward Barry, Co
Cork,and d 1800, leaving ...
Record Type(s): Landed Gentry
Date: Thu,
24 Oct 2002 05:40:58 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Caoimhghin
O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> | This is Spam | Add to Address Book
Subject: [Cryan
et al.] Devine
To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
HiFound on my website guest book.
Can any one help
oradd to this ?caoimhghin
maire1999@aol.com
Homepage Title:Homepage URL:
Referred By: Search Engine
Location: Boston, MA, USA
Comments: I found a cached email on google that
had a marriage announcement of John
Cryan to Eleanor
Devine.Her father was Fitzmaurice
Devine and his father
wasThomas Devine. Thomas is my
great great
grandfather. Iam descended from
Thomas's son, Peter. Thank you
forposting your information as I
was able to fill in
somegaps in my genealogy. I found
the original information
about John and Eleanor in Devine
Genealogy
written by
Fr. Thomas Fitzstephen Devine. My
copy was a
photocopy
that a relative in Highwood, Co.
Sligo had
obtained at
one point. Your website is great.
Keep up the
good work
emcry 22
Date:
Thu, 5
Dec 2002 05:30:52 -0800 (PST)
From:
"Caoimhghin O Croidheain"
<caoimhghin@yahoo.com> | This is Spam | Add to Address Book
Subject:
[Cryan
et al.] Roscommon Herald Articles No. 111
To:
Thanks
to Pat Hunt for the typing
2 July
1904
Coal
Contract
The
following tenders were received for the
supply
of best Scotch coal
for the
Institution: R and J.W. Hunter, Sligo
at 14s
3d per ton; Harper
Campbell
Ltd., at 13s 3d per ton and P.J.
Flanagan, Sligo at 14s.
The
tender of Harper Campbell was accepted.
Mr
Jinks Are we going to get away, or ask no
tenders
for Irish coal?
Chairman You must accept this contract in
accordance with your
advertisement. I think the coal you refer to
was
not
giving satisfaction.
Mayor
In the Asylum they mix it with English
coal.
Mr Cryan
said there were men going about the
different countries,
telling
the firemen of the different institutions
to say
Irish coal was no good (laughter).
Mr
Brennan There is a good deal in that.
Chairman There is one thing about the Irish
coal,
and that is its
carriage. However, when we get a cart of coal
delivered here at 13s 3d, it
is very
cheap.
Date:
Thu, 5
Dec 2002 05:34:23 -0800 (PST)
From:
"Caoimhghin O Croidheain"
<caoimhghin@yahoo.com> | This is Spam | Add to Address Book
Subject:
[Cryan et al.] Roscommon Herald Articles No.
112
To:
CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com Roscommon Herald Articles
No. 112
Thanks
to Pat Hunt for the typing
Roscommon Herald
12
August 1905
Sudden
Death
On
Tuesday the death of a respectable old man
named
Michael Cryan, aged
62
years, of Dockloonagh, took place rather
suddenly. He was conveying milk
to a
local creamery when he suddenly took ill,
and died
a short time after
the
attack. In his last moments he was consoled
by the
rites of the Catholic
Church.
It is stated that he had previously been
treated
for cardiac
disease,
and it is believed that this affliction
was the
cause of his death.
Being a
respectable, inoffensive old man, much
sympathy
is expressed at his
death.
Date:
Thu, 5
Dec 2002 05:47:28 -0800 (PST)
From:
"Caoimhghin O Croidheain"
<caoimhghin@yahoo.com> | This is Spam | Add to Address Book
Subject:
[Cryan et al.] Roscommon Herald Articles No.
113
To:
CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com Roscommon Herald Articles
No. 113
Thanks
to Pat Hunt for the typing
14
October 1905
Boyle
Election Petitions
The
Michael Moraghan Fiasco
[
] Mr
James Oates
Mr James
Oates, one of
the
petitioners, was
next
examined by Mr
Moriarty.
Mr
Moriarty (to Mr
Oates)
You are
a voter
entitled
to vote at the
election
in [
]
Do you
know Batty
McManus?
I do.
Do you
know Pat Conlon?
I
do.
Did you
go with
McManus,
Conlon
and [
] into
Cryan's
shop on 6th June?
Yes.
When I went into Mr
Cryan's,
Mr Cryan was at
the
grocer's side of the
shop.
What
directions did you
get?
I was
told to
vote for
Mr Devine.
What
directions did he
give
to
Keville? To
give a
drink.
What
drink did Keville
supply
you with?
Five
pints of porter and a
half of
whiskey for the six
of
us. I
cannot tell
who the
others were,
exclusive of McManus and
Conlon.
Tell his
Lordship what
Cryan
said
about
voting
for Devine? He
told us
to vote
solid for Devine
before
we got
the drink.
Did any
of you say
anything
to
Devine as to
what you
would do? No.
Did you
drink up all
the
drinks?
We did
(laughter).
Is Cryan
a connection
or
relation
of
Devine's? Mr Cryan is
married
to
a first
cousin of Mr
Devine's
from
Ballyfarnon.
Had you
seen Cryan
canvassing with Devine?
I had.
Where
had you seen him?
At
the Town
Clock.
Was
Devine present?
He
was.
Had you
seen Cryan
canvassing with Devine?
I had.
When ?
On the day of
the
poll.
Were you
assaulted at
this
election?
I was,
by a man
named Dowd.
Was it
Joe Dowd? No;
Tom
Dowd, of
the Spa.
He told
me he would smash
my face.
Did he
say why?
Because
I
voted
for Tully?
Commissioner Was it
after
the
election?
Yes.
There
was something
about
"scollops"? Yes.
What
about the
"scollops"?
I was
short some
"scollops" and I went to
Mullaney's land for a few,
as I
was
thatching.
That has
nothing to do
with
this
case.
Do you
know John Leo?
Yes
Where
does he live?
The
Deerpark.
What
part was he taking
in
the
election? A
very
heavy part.
On whose
behalf?
Devine's.
What was
he doing?
Going
about
canvassing.
Did
Devine see him?
He
did.
Was he
bringing voters?
He
was.
To
Devine's house?
Yes.
How do
you know they
were
voters?
I know
everyone
around the
country.
In your
evidence you
said
you saw
Leo
bringing
voters into
Devine's
public
house? Yes, about
12
o'clock.
Did you
see people
brought
into any
other
house?
I could not say
whether
they went into
Drury's
or not.
After
leaving Cryan's
shop
where
did you see
him
again? I saw him on
the
Crescent, opposite the
polling
booth.
What was
he doing
there?
He was
with
Devine,
Cunningham, Egan
and
Dowd.
Was this
after he had
treated
you, McManus,
Conlon
and others to a
drink?
Yes.
Cross-examined by Mr
M'Dermott You are one
of the
petitioners in this
case?
Yes.
You are
an admirer of
Mr
Tully?
I am not an
admirer
or his.
Has Mr
Tully and you
always
been
great
friends?
We have.
And in
these various
elections which have
taken
place, you have
always
been his
supporter? Yes,
but
not on
that day.
But on
any day were you
a
supporter? I was.
That
would be well
known in
Boyle?
It
would.
You are
marked out in
Boyle
as being
one of
Mr
Tully's crowd? No.
Are you
known as his
supporter? I was.
You are
marked out in
Boyle
as being
one of
Mr
Tully's crowd? No.
Are you
known as his
supporter? Yes; I am
none
[sic] of his crowd.
Has he a
crowd? He
has no
crowd.
You got
into some
trouble
some
time ago, and
you were
actually summoned
for
theft? No.
Do you
mean that? I
only
made a
mistake.
Were you
not summoned
for
making a
mistake?
I was.
Was not
it for stealing
sally
rods? I would
not make
it out as