Maybe
the Wexford Crane/Crean's should think twice before assuming that their proper
family motto is "Cor mundum crea in me Deus" - this one may belong
only to the Sligo CRYAN family. The Augustinians may be able to help
solve this problem with the records of all the priestly Augustinians. The good
bishop of Bedingo
I will
definitely contact the Augustinians in
Ellen
CRANE/CREAN name history
From Cathy Joynt Labaths web page
Cutter, William Richard.
(The Crane Line).
The surname Crane has an ancient English
history dating back to the Hundred Rolls of the thirteenth century, and was
probably a Norman local name earlier. Its similarity to the name of a bird has
caused some of the families to adopt the crane as a symbol on their
coat-of-arms, and indeed some branches of the family may have adopted the
emblem before taking the surname. The coat-of-arms of the Crane family of
From "DIRECTORY OF THE ANCESTRAL HEADS
OF
compiled by Frank R. Holmes, publ. by
Genealogical Publishing Co., 1974
The name
dates back to the Hundred Rolls in the 13th century, when on the records
William de Crane's name appears in 1272. The name is derived from town of
From Rosemary
Crean Gray
IRISH FAMILIES
Their Names, Arms and Origins. by Edward MacLysaght, Allen Figgis &
Co. Ltd Publishers,
First publ.1957 by
Hodges Figgis & Co. Our edition publ.1978.
O'CREAN, Crehan,
(Cregan).
According to MacFirbis, O'Crean and O'Cregan are synonymous, Crehan again
being a variant of Crean. In Irish Crean and Crehan are O Croidheain
(spelt O Craidhen by the Four Masters) and Creegan or Cregan is O Croidheagain.
These families formed a minor sept of the Cineal Eoghan belonging to Donegal,
with a branch in the neighbouring
The form Crehan is usual in Co. Galway; in Co. Mayo these are called Crean,
Grehan and even Graham. Creegan alone of these variants can be said to
belong now to Co. Sligo. Crean is mostly found today in south-west
pp. 99-100
Plate VI
O'CREAN
"Argent a
wolf rampant sable between three human hearts gules.
Crest: A demi-wolf
rampant sable holding betwen the paws a human heart
or." "Cor mundum
crea in me Deus" - “Create in
me a clean heart O God” from Psalm 151.
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He
Juged [Judged] by Touch
Michael
Crean, Fairymount, near Castlerea, came to
Boyle
on Friday week
last
to attend the Fair on the following day.
He took
lodgings
in
and
retired to rest somewhat earlier than the majority
of
dealing men.
He
threw his clothes somewhere, or anywhere, on the
bedroom
furniture and
went
comfortably to sleep. He slept soundly
for
several
hours and then awoke to
find
that the room was crowded with an accession of
cattle
buyers who
had
come to the fair. This did not
disconcert him,
but he
got up quickly,
picked
up a trousers from a pyramid of clothing piled
on the
floor in
careless
confusion. Having donned the trousers he
sauntered
out to
judge
if
the
weather for the fair was going to be fine.
While
outside
he missed
from
his
trousers' pocket 4 pounds, 2 shillings, which he
had
pinned there
before
retiring
to bed. He immediately became excited,
re-entered
the house
and
made
things lively for the inmates alleging that his
money
had been
stolen.
After
venting his anger, he proceeded to the police
station
and made a
complaint
about the loss of his money. Sergeant
Lennon
and
Acting-Sergeant
Cowan
proceeded to the lodgings, accompanied by Crean,
who,
on a light
being
produced,
exclaimed that he had put on the wrong
trousers.
He relied on
the
touch
of the texture in the dark and made a mistake.
Of
course his own
trousers
was where he left it, and his money perfectly
safe.
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Roscommon
Herald 15 August 1896
TRESPASSING
ON AN EVICTED FARM
Patrick
Cryan, Ballinultha, was summoned by the
Trustees
of the Rockingham Estate for allowing cattle, his property, to trespass
on an
evicted arm adjoining his holding on the 3rd, 4th, 5th and 6th
August.
Patrick
Rourke was examined and stated he was formerly
tenant
of the holding respecting which the complaint was made. He was
evicted
out of it, but had since been in occupation of it as a caretaker. Since
he was
evicted, the defendant's cattle have been trespassing on the
holding
almost every day. The defendant told him
that he (witness) had no claim
on the
holding. On the dates mentioned, 3rd,
4th, 5th, 6th August, he
found
the defendant's cattle trespassing on the farm.
Defendant
- Did I not make new mearings?
Rourke
- You made them on your own land.
Defendant
- I made my fences but this man (Rourke)
never
made the slightest
attempt
to fence his land. For the past three
years,
he
never put a stone upon the fence.
Mr.
Robinson - This man (the defendant) merely wants
cheap
grazing on the evicted farm.
Defendant
- We divided these mearings two years ago
and I
made mine. If he had made the fences,
the cattle could not trespass.
Mr.
Robinson - I could now apply for an order to
compel
this man to
make
the fences.
Mr.
Bull announced that the defendant would have to
pay a
compensation, amounting in all to 26 shillings for the trespass of
the
cattle on the four days mentioned in the case.
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Herald 17 Oct 1896
ASSAULT
John
Farrell of Knockalaghta, summoned John Cryan,
Catherine
Cryan and Pat Cryan, of same place for
assaulting
him on the 3rd of October. Mr. Scroope
appeared
for complainant.
John
Farrell deposed - On the 3rd of October, I was
putting
in hay for Mr. Cotton, at Knockalaghta. John
Cryan
came up to me. He had a hay fork in his hand.
He
made several attempts with it at me. I made for
Paul
Hanly's house. Mrs. Cryan caught a hold of me to
hold
me for her husband and son. They caught me going
in the
door; they would kill me only for Mr. Hanly,
and
Mrs. Cryan scraped my face.
To
Capt. McTernan - I do not know what was the cause
of the
row.
Mr.
Paul Hanly deposed - I remember the 3rd of
October.
Farrell rushed to my door. I was in the act
of
eating my dinner. There was a crowd outside. I
separated
them as well as I could. I could not
recognise
what they did to complainant, I was so
excited.
I did my best to "quell the riot."
To
Capt McTernan - I did not hear of any cause for the
row.
I heard they said the night before they would
murder
the complainant.
Capt
McTernan - Where do you bury your dead down
there?
(laughter)
Pat
Cryan (defendant) stated - My father told John
Farrell
to bring on the butts of hay, and not be
giving
them to Paul Hanly - that he wanted to head the
"cocks"
with them. He also called my mother a "pig"
and a
"trough."
Capt
McTernan - It is a row in a teacup.
Pat
Hanly deposed - I remember the day in question.
There
were three of us on a cart of "butts." I went
up on
the load with Farrell. Higgins was bringing the
"butts"
to Hanly. J. Cryan came on with a fork. He
told
Farrell to come down off the load. John Cryan
struck
the horse. Farrell would not come down. Mrs.
Cryan
came up. They chased Farrell. I heard Farrell
call
Mrs. Cryan a bag of dirt.
Captain
McTernan - It was a miserable wrangle to bring
up.
Each of the defendants is fined 2s and 5s costs.
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1896 Roscommon Herald
A
BRIDE AND HER FORTUNE
Mary
Cryan, Mullinabreena, Tubbercurry, sued John
Grady,
"Powellsboro,' for 16 pounds - 10 s, the value
of a
heifer, 5 pounds for a promissory note and 1
pound
for interest.
Mr.
Godfrey Fetherston-haugh, B.L., appeared for the
plaintiff,
and Mr. Fitzgerald for the defendant.
Mary
Cryan swore to the debt being due, and in
cross-examination
by Mr. Fetherstone-haugh, said -
Grady
went to England after his marriage with my
sister.
I remained living in the house for five years
with
his wife. Grady helped to put a crop in the land
the
first year, and her father, of course, got his
share
of it. So did Grady, who stopped for eleven
weeks
in the house: His wife was her sister. The one
year
he came home, he got his share of the crop, but
none
for the other four. He sent home 1 pound the
first
year. He brought an ejectment against witness,
who
held possession till last July assizes. Her
father
had a cow and a heifer at the time, five years
ago,
which he sold.
Mr.
Fetherston-haugh said Grady got no consideration
on his
marriage into this small holding. These people
repented
for allowing their daughter to marry him.
Mary
Cryan was to give up all claims to the place on
getting
5 pounds and a heifer, and Grady was to get it
under
the agreement produced. The Cryans, however,
took
possession, and kept him out for four years 'ei
et
armis' [?] until he got them ejected by a decree of
the
Judge of Assize.
Grady
said he married a daughter of John Cryan in
1892.
There was an agreement on the occasion of the
marriage
by which he was to give to Mary Cryan the
heifer
in his possession and a note of land for 5
pounds.
After setting the crop that year, he went to
England
and returned home on Christmas Eve. He
remained
there eleven weeks, but did not get a bit of
the
crop, having to support his wife and himself. He
had to
go back to England to support himself. It was
only
in last July he got into the land. After the
marriage,
he gave a two year old in-calf heifer to
Mary
Cryan, which she sent to graze. Witness never
had
the heifer since, for Mary Cryan sold her. The
father-in-law
is one and a half years dead.
Mr.
Fetherston-haugh said the agreement reserved a
right
of sustenance to the old man.
His
honor said 'prima facie' there was a case against
Grady,
but there was constructive satisfaction of the
claim
against him.
Mr.
Fitzgerald, pointing to a rather haggard matron of
uncertain
years, asked Grady did he marry this young
lady
here.
Grady
- Call her what you like (laughter).
Fitzgerald
- She is 20 years older than you?
Grady
- I suppose so.
Fitzgerald
- You married this snug little farm? Had
you
any money the year you were married?
Grady
- I had two good heifers.
Fitzgerald
-And you expected by marrying this
respectable
old lady - There she is there for anybody
to lok
at (laughter).
How
long did you remain there?
Grady
- Eleven weeks.
Fitzgerald
- Quite enought for a honeymoon (laughter).
Then
you went away to England and returned on
Christmas
Eve?
Grady
- Yes.
Fitzgerald
- You stayed a short time then?
Grady
- I could not stay any longer.
Fitzgerald
- And eventually you brought an ejectment
decree
against your own wife, who had to go into the
workhouse?
Grady
- She was only one night in the workhouse, and I
am
paying for a place for her now.
Fitzgerald
- Oh, but she is not living with you, you
got
the farm and your wife is nowhere.
Grady
- No matter, I have to pay for her.
Fitzgerald
- Did you give Mary Cryan the heifer?
Grady
- I did.
Fitzgerald
- Was it you bought the heifer?
Grady
- My father bought it with my money.
Michael
Grady swore he bought a heifer for his son,
which
Mary Cryan got three days after the son's
marriage,
and put out on Martin Mullany's land. The
heifer
was sold at Ballymote September fair by Mary
Cryan
and her father.
His
Lordship gave a decree for 5 pounds.
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7
January 1899
An
Assault
Pat
Cryan, Mohill, summoned Bryan Connolly, of the
same
place, with unlawfully assaulting and beating
him.
Connolly
had a cross-case.
Cryan
deposed he was going down Mr. Reynolds’s
gateway,
and Connolly was in holds with an old man
whom
he did not know. He told him to let the old man
go,
and when he did Connolly struck him, and they
knocked
other [sic] down. Connolly afterwards followed
him
down to the yard, to where he was working, and
struck
him.
To
defendant – I did not ask you to fight when you
came
up.
Pat
Reynolds deposed about 6 p.m. on the evening of
the
22nd, and they were both fighting with other. He
thought
to make them settle it, but it was no good.
Defendant
– You were there at the commencement?
Witness
– No, I was not.
The
cross-case was then gone into.
Connolly
was deposed, and swore that he was talking to
the
old man, and Cryan came up and asked him to fight,
and he
said he would not. He asked him down the yard,
and
when they went down, they struck other [sic] but
Cryan
struck him first.
By the
chairman – The old man is not here.
John
Cryan deposed that he was passing down the
street,
and he saw the two of them in the gateway, and
they
both got seconders, and he was second for
Connolly.
Chairman
– Tell us about the fight.
Connolly
– When they went down the road, they made "a
shake"
at other [sic], and Reynolds made peace.
Chairman
– You will be each fined 5s., and costs.
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16
December 1899
Assault
Andrew
Crann prosecuted Thomas Hever and Betty Dyer,
Ballymote,
for assaulting him.
Crann
desposed he was in Mr. Keenan’s public-house,
and
was standing at the counter, when Hever knocked
him
down with a box, and then Hever and Dyer dragged
him
out to the street, and both of them kicked him.
Himself
and Hever had some difference last July.
Dyer –
Did I not tell you that you were a foolish man
to be
following Hever? – You did not.
Mr.
Patrick Keenan deposed Hever and Dyer were in the
room
of the public-house having a drink, and Crann and
some
other men came into the shop. He refused to
supply
Crann with drink, for he knew after the row
himself
and Hever had at the sports, there would be
some
disturbance. As Crann was going out Hever struck
him a
box, and he (witness) shoved them all out.
Dyer –
Did you see me do anything? – You told him it
was a
shame for him to be raising a row in the shop.
Michael
Crann, brother of plaintiff, deposed that Dyer
dragged
the plaintiff out on the street, and both of
the
defendants kicked him.
Hever
– Did you not strike me outside the door? – I
did
not.
Michael
Price, for the defence, deposed he did not see
Dyer
strike Crann at all.
Mr.
Henn – Could he have struck him without your
seeing
him? – Well I could not say.
Mr.
Henn – Well, head-constable, what is the character
of
these men?
Head-constable
Macken said that since the 9th July
there
is a bad feeling between Crann and Hever. On
that
day Crann seriously assaulted Hever, since when
the
feeling between them is very bad. The three of
them
were regular pugilists (laughter).
Mr.
Henn – What is the record against Hever? – There
is not
much against Hever. He was up a couple of times
for
drunkenness. I could not give Dyer or Crann a good
character.
Mr.
Henn – I would certainly stop this rowdyism in the
town.
Head-constable
– As regards Hever and Crann. I am
afraid
there will be bad work between them yet.
Mr.
Henn said they would fine Dyer and Hever 10s. 6d.
each.
They would also have to enter into bail
themselves
in £5. and two sureties in £2 10s. each to
keep
the peace for six months, or in default go to
jail
for one month.
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2
April 1898
The
Election of Schoolmaster
The
clerk said that with reference to the election of
schoolmaster
on that day he thought some little
illegality
might arise regarding the powers of the old
members
of the Board to vote, and accordingly asked
the
opinion of the Local Government Board on the
matter.
This was the reply he received: –
"Local Government
Board,
"Dublin, 19th March 1898
"Sir
– I am directed by the Local Government Board for
Ireland
to acknowledge the receipt of your letter of
the
17th instant, relative to the proposed appointment
of a
schoolmaster of the workhouse of Boyle Union, and
in
reply to your inquiry I am to state that the
guardians
of the present year will be entitled to act
on the
26th instant unless you shall have previously
made
your return of the election of guardians for the
ensuing
year.– I am, sir, your obedient servant
"THOS. A. MOONEY, Secretary"
The
election was then preceded with, and the
applicants
were: Michael Joseph McHugh, Knockvicar;
John
Rafferty, Battlefield, Ballymote; Peter McManamy,
Carrowcrory;
Edward Cryan, Keash; James Tansey,
Gurteen;
and Matthew Murphy.
Each
of the applicants were called before the Board
and
questioned as to their qualifications and
abilities.
Mr.
Murphy said he had not a certificate of birth, but
he was
about 24 years of age. He was engaged teaching
at a
place called Annaghmore.
Mr.
Quinn – I think we can take it he is 24 years of
age.
Clerk
– I will have to state his age on the query
sheet.
Mr.
Clark thought they could accept him.
Chairman
– It is for the Board to say.
Mr.
Mullany – It is for the Board of National
Education,
and the Local Government Board afterwards.
He was
accepted.
Mr.
Rafferty stated he was for a number of years in
the
Training College, Waterford, and produced a
recommendation
from the Reverend Brother relative to
his
conduct and abilities whilst there. He also
produced
several certificates from educational
departments,
including mathematic [sic], science and
art,
drawing, etc.
The
chairman said Mr. Rafferty had very good
qualifications.
Mr.
Whyte – Have you ever had a school?
Mr.
Rafferty – No; never, sir, except for acting for
others
when sick.
Mr.
Whyte – Why should a man not have a school with
such
qualifications as you?
Mr.
Rafferty – This part of the country is pretty
fully
stocked with teachers, sir.
Mr.
McManamy said he was 25 years of age, and was
classed
second of third class. He produced
recommendations
from Rev. Cannon Loftus, P.P.,
Ballymote;
Rev. T. Morris, Naas; the Rev. Father
Scully,
Keash; and Rev. Father Connolly, Achill.
Mr.
Cryan said he did not know his age, but was a
second
class teacher. He produced testimonials from
Rev.
Cannon Kelly, Cootehall,; and Rev. Father Scully,
Keash.
Mr. Tansey
said he was 23 years of age.
Mr.
McHugh stated he was 25 years of age, and was
trained
at Londonderry. He produced a recommendation
from
Rev. Cannon Kelly, Cootehall.
After
the candidates had retired, Mr. Whyte said he
had
great pleasure in proposing Mr. McHugh.
He was
seconded by Mr. Quinn.
Mr.
John Kelly (Lisballely) proposed Mr. Tansey, and
he was
seconded by Mr. Gardiner.
Colonel
Cooper proposed Mr. Rafferty, and he was
seconded
by Mr. McGettrick.
Mr.
McManamy was proposed by Mr. Clarke, and seconded
by Mr.
O’Brien.
Mr.
Grogan proposed Mr. Cryan, and he was seconded by
Mr.
Lynch.
Mr.
Murphy was not proposed or seconded, but
eventually
Mr. P. Mullany said he would propose him in
order
to put him in the running.
He was
seconded by Mr. Costello.
The
voting was then taken up and the following was the
result
of
First Poll.
For
McHugh: - Messrs. Whyte, Mulhall, Fry, Cogan,
Patterson,
J. Mullany, Mulloy, H. Lawrence, Brady,
McDermott,
Lindsay, S. Lawrence, J. McDonagh, Murray,
Higgins,
Gillespie, McHugh, Quinn – 13.
For
Rafferty: - Messrs. Lloyd, chairman, Cooper,
Crichton,
C. Cox, Finan, T. A. Cox, Kelly
(Ballinameen),
P. Mullany, McGettrick – 10.
For
McManamy: - Messrs. Gardiner, Dolan, O’Brien,
Sharkey,
Clarke, Gray – 6.
For
Cryan: - The MacDermotroe, Messrs. Lynch, Grogan,
McLoughlan,
Priest – 5.
For
Murphy: - Mr. Costello – 1.
For
Tansey: - Mr. Kelly (Lisballely) – 1.
Murphy,
Tansey and Cryan then dropped out.
Final Poll
For
McHugh: - Messrs. Whyte, Mulhall, The
MacDermotroe,
Fry, Cogan, Patterson, Lynch, Grogan, J.
Mullany,
Mulloy, H. Lawrence, Brady, McDermott,
Lindsay,
S. Lawrence, McDonagh, McLoughlan, Murray,
Higgins,
Gillespie, Priest, McHugh, Quinn – 23.
For
Rafferty: - Messrs. Lloyd, chairman, Cooper,
Crichton,
C. Cox, Finan, T. A. Cox, Kelly
(Ballinameen);
P. Mullany, McKettrick – 10.
For
McManamy: - Messrs. Gardiner, Dolan, Costelloe,
O’Brien,
Kelly, Sharkey (Lisballely); Clarke, Gray –
8.
McHugh
was then accordingly declared elected by a
majority
of 13 over Rafferty, and 15 over McManamy. He
returned
thanks to the Board, and said he would do all
in his
power to meet their requirements and give
satisfaction.
The
Board then adjourned.
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11
June 1898
An Appeal
The
first case was an appeal of Mr. John Priest,
publican,
Chapel Street, Boyle against a decision of
the
magistrates presiding at Boyle petty sessions for
an
alleged breach of the Licensing Act, in which he
was
fined 10s. In a second case on the same day, in
which
he was fined a £1, he also appealed.
Mr. P.
C. P. MacDermott appeared for Mr. Priest, and
Mr.
St. Geo. Robinson appeared for the Crown.
Constable
Higgins deposed in reply to Mr. Robinson – I
am
stationed in Boyle; I remember the 26th April. I
was on
duty that evening along with Constable McGarry
about
11:35. Mr. Priest had a licensed public-house in
Eaton’s
Lane, Boyle. Whilst passing the house we
observed
light, and heard talking in the bar. We
remained
for some time at the door, and afterwards we
knocked,
and were admitted by the publican. We found
two
men seated at the kitchen fire – Michael Horan and
Edward
Cryan. Both those men belong to Boyle. There
were
four glass measures on the table beside them, one
containing
porter, and another containing some liquor
resembling
wine. I questioned Mr. Priest as to what
brought
those men there, and he said they were his
servants.
He also told me to do my best, and to test
the
case. Horan said he came there to put up a lock
for
Mr. Priest. Mr. Priest said they came there after
10
o’clock, and afterward he contradicted himself, and
said
they were there before 10 o’clock. Constable
McGarry
asked when had Mr. Cryan become a tradesman,
as he
was formerly a school teacher, and Cryan said he
was
Mr. Priest’s servant also, and he was putting up a
lock
along with Horan. It is a new house Mr. Priest is
building,
which is opposite the licensed premises, and
on
which they were putting on the lock.
Mr.
MacDermot – They say one story is good until
another
is told, and we will get to the other side to
explain
it. Mr. Priest told you to do your best, and
test
it.
Constable
Higgins – Yes.
And
you thought it was a very nice case to bring to
the
court? – No.
You
are aware that Mr. Priest is building one of those
fine
new houses on the other side of the street? –
Yes.
And
there are several tradesmen working at it? – Two
to my
knowledge.
Don’t
you know that it takes more than two to build a
house?
Do you know that Cryan and Horan work there? –
Yes.
Can
you say at what time they gave up working on that
day? –
No.
Mr.
Priest told you they were his servants, who were
working
late that day for him, and he brought them in
and
gave them a drink? – Yes.
You
saw one of them having porter? – No.
Of
course, you did not see him take it off his head.
You
saw one of them had port wine. He was having a
more
aristocratic drink than the other man, who had a
glass
of porter? – Yes.
Now I
see by a report of your evidence in the
"Herald",
you stated that you were thirteen months
stationed
in Boyle, and during that time Mr. Priest
conducted
his house well? – Yes.
Constable
McGarry gave corroborative evidence.
Mr.
John Priest deposed in reply to Mr. MacDermott – I
have a
public-house in Chapel Street. I am building a
new
house. Those two men are working for me. One of
them
is a teacher who is classed, but has no school.
He is
working for me as a carpenter. On this night
they
were working for me very late putting on a lock
in the
new house. I was anxious to get it finished,
and
that is the reason they worked so late. I am in
the
habit of asking them over to have a drink. Horan
is
kind of a teetotaller. He only drinks wine. The
other
man drinks porter. I did not get payment, or
intend
to get payment for the drink. It was between 9
and 10
o’clock when they gave over work.
Cross-examined
by Mr. Robinson. You are building a new
house?
– Yes.
How
many men do you have working there? – I have five.
Do you
bring them over every night? – Well, no; I do
not.
You
make an exception in favor of Horan and Cryan? – I
don’t
bring them every night.
You
had Horan on your premises after hours on the 28th
April,
two nights after? – Yes.
How
long were they working for you on the 26th April?
– They
were working until some time between 9 and 10
o’clock.
Did
you think that as a publican you were keeping
inside
the licensing law by having those men on your
premises
at half-past 11? –Yes.
You
told the police they were your servants? – Yes.
You
said Horan was putting on a lock? – Yes.
Did
you explain to the police that the reason they
were
there was to take a treat from you? – If the
police
asked me, I would have told them.
You
did not think it necessary? – No.
Did
you lead the police to believe it was in your
licensed
house they were putting up the lock? – No.
His
Lordship – Now you seem to be a very respectable
man,
and on your oath how often had you those men in
from
time to time? – Well, I will swear positively I
had
Horan in after 10 o’clock two dozen times since I
commenced
building the house.
Why
did you give them those drinks? What are their
wages?
– Horan is earning 26s. a-week, and Cryan 23s.
On
your solemn oath do you make any reduction in their
wages
for those drinks? – On my oath I do not.
Michael
Horan deposed in reply to Mr. MacDermot – I am
a
carpenter working for Mr. Priest. I am working for
him
eight months. I remember the 26th April. I was
working
for him on that night until about half-past 9
putting
on a lock. Cryan was along with me. After we
had
finished Mr. Priest asked us over, and brought us
into
the kitchen, and asked us what we would have. I
don’t
drink anything but wine, so he gave me a glass
of
Sedna wine. The other man had a glass of porter. I
did
not pay for the Sedna, nor was there any reduction
in my
wages for it. I was often in with Mr. Priest
checking
over timber accounts.
Mr.
Robinson – I suppose if you got a glass of this
Sedna
wine every time you went there you would not
stir
out of the place at all. – Possibly.
More
fool if you would (laughter).
Edward
Cryan gave corroborative evidence.
His
Lordship said he would hear the second case before
he
would give a decision.
The
hearing of the second appeal was then commenced.
Constable
Peter Dunne deposed in reply to Mr. Robinson
– I
was on duty with Constable Kelly on the night of
the
28th April, about 11:30 p.m. I observed light in
the
shop of Mr. Priest, and I rapped at the door, and
Mr.
Priest admitted myself and Constable Kelly. I
entered
the shop and found Michael Horan standing at
the
counter, and a glass containing either whiskey or
wine
before him. The moment we entered, and before we
had
time to taste the liquor in the glass, he drank it
up. I
asked Mr. Priest why he had this man on the
premises
at that hour, and without answering me he
went
to the window and took down a book, and commenced
to read
the 54th section of the Licensing Act. I told
him he
had better take it up with the court, and read
it to
the magistrates (laughter).
Cross-examined
by Mr. MacDermot.
He
began to read the law for you? – Yes.
You
did not listen to the law but went out? – We went
away.
Did
you see the liquor in the glass? – It occurred to
my
mind it was wine by the colour.
Did
you go and look at it? – No. He did not give us
the
opportunity.
Are
you a tetotaller [sic]? – Sometimes (laughter).
Were
you a tetotaller [sic] at that time? – Yes.
Did
you ever take any of this Sedna wine? – I may
have.
Horan
drank it, and the other man began to read the
law? –
Yes.
Constable
Kelly gave corroborative evidence.
Mr.
Priest deposed in reply to Mr. MacDermot – On the
night
of the 28th April, Michael Horan was working at
the
new house, and I called him over to check a timber
account
of Mr. Sloan’s, as he has more experience of
it
than I have. While he was engaged in checking the
account,
I left down a glass of Sedna wine, and then
the police
rapped, and I admitted them. I did not get
any
payment for it.
His
Lordship – Don’t you see Mr. Priest what a mess
you
have got into?
Michael
Horan deposed that Mr. Priest asked him over
to
check a timber account of Mr. Sloan’s, and while
they
were engaged in going over it, the police came
in. It
was a glass of Sedna wine Mr. Priest gave him.
Mr.
MacDermot – Was it "fine old tawny" you got? – I
could
not say (laughter).
Mr.
Robinson – How often were you up for drunkenness?
– I
was up once.
Mr.
MacDermot – That is the reason he is a teetotaller
now.
His
Lordship – On the whole I think it is an honest
case,
and I will reverse both decisions.
Date: Mon,
15 Oct 2001 11:00:08 +0100 (BST)
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Roscommon
Herald Articles No 40
Thanks
to Leslie Poche for the typing
October
16, 1897
Assault
in a House
These
petty sessions were held on Thursday before F.B.
Henn,
Esq.,
R.M.,
and
J.
Hannon, Esq., J.P.
Asssault
Michael Cran, Deroon, charged two men
named James
Tonroe
and William Snee with assaulting him.
Cran deposed he was in a house of a man
named Pat
Kerins,
when Tonroe
accused
him of stealing turf, and assaulted him.
Snee
also
assaulted him.
Tonroe - I have a few people to prove this
man's