Maybe the Wexford Crane/Crean's should think twice before assuming that their proper family motto is "Cor mundum crea in me Deus" - this one may belong only to the Sligo CRYAN family.  The Augustinians may be able to help solve this problem with the records of all the priestly Augustinians. The good bishop of Bedingo Australia ought to have had a motto and maybe he even had his carved on his episcopal throne as the Roscommon bishop did on Caoimhghin's web site ( 


I will definitely contact the Augustinians in Dublin and also at Wellingtonbridge when my brother and I visit at the end of this month.



 CRANE/CREAN name history

From Cathy Joynt Labaths web page

Cutter, William Richard. New England Families Genealogical and Memorial: Volume IV. 1913. Reprint, Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., 1996.p. 1648

(The Crane Line).

The surname Crane has an ancient English history dating back to the Hundred Rolls of the thirteenth century, and was probably a Norman local name earlier. Its similarity to the name of a bird has caused some of the families to adopt the crane as a symbol on their coat-of-arms, and indeed some branches of the family may have adopted the emblem before taking the surname. The coat-of-arms of the Crane family of Suffolk, England, to which some if not all the American families belong, is: Argent a fesse between three crosses crosslet fitchee gules. Crest: A crane proper. There have been many distinguished Englishmen of this name from the earliest use of the surname. There were a number of pioneers of this family in Massachusetts before 1650.


compiled by Frank R. Holmes, publ. by Genealogical Publishing Co., 1974

The name dates back to the Hundred Rolls in the 13th century, when on the records William de Crane's name appears in 1272. The name is derived from town of Crannes, in Maine, a province in northern France; its root is from the Gaelic Cran, meaning water.

From Rosemary Crean Gray


IRISH FAMILIES  Their Names, Arms and Origins. by Edward MacLysaght, Allen Figgis & Co. Ltd Publishers, Dublin, Ireland

First publ.1957 by Hodges Figgis & Co. Our edition publ.1978.


O'CREAN, Crehan, (Cregan).


    According to MacFirbis, O'Crean and O'Cregan are synonymous, Crehan again being a variant of Crean. In Irish Crean and Crehan are O Croidheain (spelt O Craidhen by the Four Masters) and Creegan or Cregan is O Croidheagain. These families formed a minor sept of the Cineal Eoghan belonging to Donegal, with a branch in the neighbouring county of Sligo.  They are twice mentioned by the Four Masters as wealthy merchants, which is somewhat unusual in the Annals: in 1506 as of County Donegal; in 1572 as of Sligo.  The Clongowes manuscript "The State of Ireland in 1598" gives them a higher status : the then head ot the family was John O'Crean of Ballynegare, and in another place in the manuscript O'Crean of Annagh is stated to have been one of the leading families of Co. Sligo in the sixteenth century.  According to the "Annals of Loch Ce" the Bishop of Elphin in 1582 was an O'Crean, but he was "removed"in 1584. Father Daniel O'Crean (d. c. 1616) of Holy Cross, Sligo, was Provincial of the Dominican order in a period of intensive persecution.

    The form Crehan is usual in Co. Galway; in Co. Mayo these are called Crean, Grehan and even Graham.  Creegan alone of these variants can be said to belong now to Co. Sligo.  Crean is mostly found today in south-west Munster, but families of the name in Kerry and Cork are in most cases Creen, recte Curreen, i.e. O Corraidhin.  A further  complication in regard to the name Crean arises from the fact that the O Corrain, normally Curran in English, has become Crean in some places. The arms illustrated in Plate VI are those of O'Crean of Donegal and Sligo and do not belong to the Creans of Munster.

pp. 99-100 


Plate VI 



"Argent a wolf rampant sable between three human hearts gules.

Crest: A demi-wolf rampant sable holding betwen the paws a human heart or."       "Cor mundum crea in me Deus" -  “Create in me a clean heart O God” from Psalm 151.



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Roscommon Herald Articles No 32

Thanks to Ellen Herron for the typing


Roscommon Herald 8/8/1896


He Juged [Judged] by Touch


Michael Crean, Fairymount, near Castlerea, came to

Boyle on Friday week

last to attend the Fair on the following day.  He took

lodgings in Chapel Street

and retired to rest somewhat earlier than the majority

of dealing men. 

He threw his clothes somewhere, or anywhere, on the

bedroom furniture and

went comfortably to sleep.  He slept soundly for

several hours and then awoke to

find that the room was crowded with an accession of

cattle buyers who

had come to the fair.  This did not disconcert him,

but he got up quickly,

picked up a trousers from a pyramid of clothing piled

on the floor in

careless confusion.  Having donned the trousers he

sauntered out to

judge if

the weather for the fair was going to be fine.  While

outside he missed


his trousers' pocket 4 pounds, 2 shillings, which he

had pinned there


retiring to bed.  He immediately became excited,

re-entered the house


made things lively for the inmates alleging that his

money had been


After venting his anger, he proceeded to the police

station and made a

complaint about the loss of his money.  Sergeant

Lennon and


Cowan proceeded to the lodgings, accompanied by Crean,

who, on a light


produced, exclaimed that he had put on the wrong

trousers. He relied on


touch of the texture in the dark and made a mistake.

Of course his own

trousers was where he left it, and his money perfectly



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Roscommon Herald Articles No 33

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Roscommon Herald  15 August 1896




Patrick Cryan, Ballinultha, was summoned by the

Trustees of the Rockingham Estate for allowing cattle, his property, to trespass

on an evicted arm adjoining his holding on the 3rd, 4th, 5th and 6th



Patrick Rourke was examined and stated he was formerly

tenant of the holding respecting which the complaint was made.  He was

evicted out of it, but had since been in occupation of it as a caretaker.  Since

he was evicted, the defendant's cattle have been trespassing on the

holding almost every day.  The defendant told him that he (witness) had no claim

on the holding.  On the dates mentioned, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th August, he

found the defendant's cattle trespassing on the farm.


Defendant - Did I not make new mearings?


Rourke - You made them on your own land.


Defendant - I made my fences but this man (Rourke)

never made the slightest

attempt to fence his land.  For the past three years,

he never put a stone upon the fence.


Mr. Robinson - This man (the defendant) merely wants

cheap grazing on the evicted farm.


Defendant - We divided these mearings two years ago

and I made mine.  If he had made the fences, the cattle could not trespass.


Mr. Robinson - I could now apply for an order to

compel this man to

make the fences.


Mr. Bull announced that the defendant would have to

pay a compensation, amounting in all to 26 shillings for the trespass of

the cattle on the four days mentioned in the case.


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Roscommon Herald Articles No 34

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Roscommon Herald 17 Oct 1896




John Farrell of Knockalaghta, summoned John Cryan,

Catherine Cryan and Pat Cryan, of same place for

assaulting him on the 3rd of October.  Mr. Scroope

appeared for complainant.


John Farrell deposed - On the 3rd of October, I was

putting in hay for Mr. Cotton, at Knockalaghta. John

Cryan came up to me.  He had a hay fork in his hand. 

He made several attempts with it at me.  I made for

Paul Hanly's house.  Mrs. Cryan caught a hold of me to

hold me for her husband and son.  They caught me going

in the door; they would kill me only for Mr. Hanly,

and Mrs. Cryan scraped my face.


To Capt. McTernan - I do not know what was the cause

of the row.


Mr. Paul Hanly deposed - I remember the 3rd of

October.  Farrell rushed to my door.  I was in the act

of eating my dinner.  There was a crowd outside.  I

separated them as well as I could.  I could not

recognise what they did to complainant, I was so

excited.  I did my best to "quell the riot."


To Capt McTernan - I did not hear of any cause for the

row.  I heard they said the night before they would

murder the complainant.


Capt McTernan - Where do you bury your dead down

there?  (laughter)


Pat Cryan (defendant) stated - My father told John

Farrell to bring on the butts of hay, and not be

giving them to Paul Hanly - that he wanted to head the

"cocks" with them.  He also called my mother a "pig"

and a "trough."


Capt McTernan - It is a row in a teacup.


Pat Hanly deposed - I remember the day in question. 

There were three of us on a cart of "butts."  I went

up on the load with Farrell.  Higgins was bringing the

"butts" to Hanly.  J. Cryan came on with a fork.  He

told Farrell to come down off the load.  John Cryan

struck the horse.  Farrell would not come down.  Mrs.

Cryan came up.  They chased Farrell.  I heard Farrell

call Mrs. Cryan a bag of dirt.


Captain McTernan - It was a miserable wrangle to bring

up.  Each of the defendants is fined 2s and 5s costs.


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Roscommon Herald Articles No 35

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Oct 31 1896 Roscommon Herald




Mary Cryan, Mullinabreena, Tubbercurry, sued John

Grady, "Powellsboro,' for 16 pounds - 10 s, the value

of a heifer, 5 pounds for a promissory note and 1

pound for interest.


Mr. Godfrey Fetherston-haugh, B.L., appeared for the

plaintiff, and Mr. Fitzgerald for the defendant.


Mary Cryan swore to the debt being due, and in

cross-examination by Mr. Fetherstone-haugh, said -

Grady went to England after his marriage with my

sister.  I remained living in the house for five years

with his wife.  Grady helped to put a crop in the land

the first year, and her father, of course, got his

share of it.  So did Grady, who stopped for eleven

weeks in the house:  His wife was her sister.  The one

year he came home, he got his share of the crop, but

none for the other four.  He sent home 1 pound the

first year.  He brought an ejectment against witness,

who held possession till last July assizes.  Her

father had a cow and a heifer at the time, five years

ago, which he sold.


Mr. Fetherston-haugh said Grady got no consideration

on his marriage into this small holding.  These people

repented for allowing their daughter to marry him. 

Mary Cryan was to give up all claims to the place on

getting 5 pounds and a heifer, and Grady was to get it

under the agreement produced.  The Cryans, however,

took possession, and kept him out for four years 'ei

et armis' [?] until he got them ejected by a decree of

the Judge of Assize.


Grady said he married a daughter of John Cryan in

1892.  There was an agreement on the occasion of the

marriage by which he was to give to Mary Cryan the

heifer in his possession and a note of land for 5

pounds.  After setting the crop that year, he went to

England and returned home on Christmas Eve.  He

remained there eleven weeks, but did not get a bit of

the crop, having to support his wife and himself.  He

had to go back to England to support himself.  It was

only in last July he got into the land.  After the

marriage, he gave a two year old in-calf heifer to

Mary Cryan, which she sent to graze.  Witness never

had the heifer since, for Mary Cryan sold her.  The

father-in-law is one and a half years dead.


Mr. Fetherston-haugh said the agreement reserved a

right of sustenance to the old man.


His honor said 'prima facie' there was a case against

Grady, but there was constructive satisfaction of the

claim against him.


Mr. Fitzgerald, pointing to a rather haggard matron of

uncertain years, asked Grady did he marry this young

lady here.


Grady - Call her what you like (laughter).

Fitzgerald - She is 20 years older than you?

Grady - I suppose so.

Fitzgerald - You married this snug little farm?  Had

you any money the year you were married?

Grady - I had two good heifers.

Fitzgerald -And you expected by marrying this

respectable old lady - There she is there for anybody

to lok at (laughter).

How long did you remain there?

Grady - Eleven weeks.

Fitzgerald - Quite enought for a honeymoon (laughter).

Then you went away to England and returned on

Christmas Eve?

Grady - Yes.

Fitzgerald - You stayed a short time then?

Grady - I could not stay any longer.

Fitzgerald - And eventually you brought an ejectment

decree against your own wife, who had to go into the


Grady - She was only one night in the workhouse, and I

am paying for a place for her now.

Fitzgerald - Oh, but she is not living with you, you

got the farm and your wife is nowhere.

Grady - No matter, I have to pay for her.

Fitzgerald - Did you give Mary Cryan the heifer?

Grady - I did.

Fitzgerald - Was it you bought the heifer? 

Grady - My father bought it with my money.


Michael Grady swore he bought a heifer for his son,

which Mary Cryan got three days after the son's

marriage, and put out on Martin Mullany's land. The

heifer was sold at Ballymote September fair by Mary

Cryan and her father.


His Lordship gave a decree for 5 pounds.

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Roscommon Herald Articles No 36



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Roscommon Herald

7 January 1899

An Assault

Pat Cryan, Mohill, summoned Bryan Connolly, of the

same place, with unlawfully assaulting and beating


Connolly had a cross-case.

Cryan deposed he was going down Mr. Reynolds’s

gateway, and Connolly was in holds with an old man

whom he did not know. He told him to let the old man

go, and when he did Connolly struck him, and they

knocked other [sic] down. Connolly afterwards followed

him down to the yard, to where he was working, and

struck him.

To defendant – I did not ask you to fight when you

came up.

Pat Reynolds deposed about 6 p.m. on the evening of

the 22nd, and they were both fighting with other. He

thought to make them settle it, but it was no good.

Defendant – You were there at the commencement?

Witness – No, I was not.

The cross-case was then gone into.

Connolly was deposed, and swore that he was talking to

the old man, and Cryan came up and asked him to fight,

and he said he would not. He asked him down the yard,

and when they went down, they struck other [sic] but

Cryan struck him first.

By the chairman – The old man is not here.

John Cryan deposed that he was passing down the

street, and he saw the two of them in the gateway, and

they both got seconders, and he was second for


Chairman – Tell us about the fight.

Connolly – When they went down the road, they made "a

shake" at other [sic], and Reynolds made peace.

Chairman – You will be each fined 5s., and costs.



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Roscommon Herald Articles No 37



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Roscommon Herald

16 December 1899


Andrew Crann prosecuted Thomas Hever and Betty Dyer,

Ballymote, for assaulting him.

Crann desposed he was in Mr. Keenan’s public-house,

and was standing at the counter, when Hever knocked

him down with a box, and then Hever and Dyer dragged

him out to the street, and both of them kicked him.

Himself and Hever had some difference last July.

Dyer – Did I not tell you that you were a foolish man

to be following Hever? – You did not.

Mr. Patrick Keenan deposed Hever and Dyer were in the

room of the public-house having a drink, and Crann and

some other men came into the shop. He refused to

supply Crann with drink, for he knew after the row

himself and Hever had at the sports, there would be

some disturbance. As Crann was going out Hever struck

him a box, and he (witness) shoved them all out.

Dyer – Did you see me do anything? – You told him it

was a shame for him to be raising a row in the shop.

Michael Crann, brother of plaintiff, deposed that Dyer

dragged the plaintiff out on the street, and both of

the defendants kicked him.

Hever – Did you not strike me outside the door? – I

did not.

Michael Price, for the defence, deposed he did not see

Dyer strike Crann at all.

Mr. Henn – Could he have struck him without your

seeing him? – Well I could not say.

Mr. Henn – Well, head-constable, what is the character

of these men?

Head-constable Macken said that since the 9th July

there is a bad feeling between Crann and Hever. On

that day Crann seriously assaulted Hever, since when

the feeling between them is very bad. The three of

them were regular pugilists (laughter).

Mr. Henn – What is the record against Hever? – There

is not much against Hever. He was up a couple of times

for drunkenness. I could not give Dyer or Crann a good


Mr. Henn – I would certainly stop this rowdyism in the


Head-constable – As regards Hever and Crann. I am

afraid there will be bad work between them yet.

Mr. Henn said they would fine Dyer and Hever 10s. 6d.

each. They would also have to enter into bail

themselves in £5. and two sureties in £2 10s. each to

keep the peace for six months, or in default go to

jail for one month.



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Roscommon Herald Articles No 38



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Roscommon Herald

2 April 1898


          The Election of Schoolmaster

The clerk said that with reference to the election of

schoolmaster on that day he thought some little

illegality might arise regarding the powers of the old

members of the Board to vote, and accordingly asked

the opinion of the Local Government Board on the

matter. This was the reply he received: –

                "Local Government Board,

                    "Dublin, 19th March 1898

"Sir – I am directed by the Local Government Board for

Ireland to acknowledge the receipt of your letter of

the 17th instant, relative to the proposed appointment

of a schoolmaster of the workhouse of Boyle Union, and

in reply to your inquiry I am to state that the

guardians of the present year will be entitled to act

on the 26th instant unless you shall have previously

made your return of the election of guardians for the

ensuing year.– I am, sir, your obedient servant

            "THOS. A. MOONEY, Secretary"

The election was then preceded with, and the

applicants were: Michael Joseph McHugh, Knockvicar;

John Rafferty, Battlefield, Ballymote; Peter McManamy,

Carrowcrory; Edward Cryan, Keash; James Tansey,

Gurteen; and Matthew Murphy.

Each of the applicants were called before the Board

and questioned as to their qualifications and


Mr. Murphy said he had not a certificate of birth, but

he was about 24 years of age. He was engaged teaching

at a place called Annaghmore.

Mr. Quinn – I think we can take it he is 24 years of


Clerk – I will have to state his age on the query


Mr. Clark thought they could accept him.

Chairman – It is for the Board to say.

Mr. Mullany – It is for the Board of National

Education, and the Local Government Board afterwards.

He was accepted.

Mr. Rafferty stated he was for a number of years in

the Training College, Waterford, and produced a

recommendation from the Reverend Brother relative to

his conduct and abilities whilst there. He also

produced several certificates from educational

departments, including mathematic [sic], science and

art, drawing, etc.

The chairman said Mr. Rafferty had very good


Mr. Whyte – Have you ever had a school?

Mr. Rafferty – No; never, sir, except for acting for

others when sick.

Mr. Whyte – Why should a man not have a school with

such qualifications as you?

Mr. Rafferty – This part of the country is pretty

fully stocked with teachers, sir.

Mr. McManamy said he was 25 years of age, and was

classed second of third class. He produced

recommendations from Rev. Cannon Loftus, P.P.,

Ballymote; Rev. T. Morris, Naas; the Rev. Father

Scully, Keash; and Rev. Father Connolly, Achill.

Mr. Cryan said he did not know his age, but was a

second class teacher. He produced testimonials from

Rev. Cannon Kelly, Cootehall,; and Rev. Father Scully,


Mr. Tansey said he was 23 years of age.

Mr. McHugh stated he was 25 years of age, and was

trained at Londonderry. He produced a recommendation

from Rev. Cannon Kelly, Cootehall.

After the candidates had retired, Mr. Whyte said he

had great pleasure in proposing Mr. McHugh.

He was seconded by Mr. Quinn.

Mr. John Kelly (Lisballely) proposed Mr. Tansey, and

he was seconded by Mr. Gardiner.

Colonel Cooper proposed Mr. Rafferty, and he was

seconded by Mr. McGettrick.

Mr. McManamy was proposed by Mr. Clarke, and seconded

by Mr. O’Brien.

Mr. Grogan proposed Mr. Cryan, and he was seconded by

Mr. Lynch.

Mr. Murphy was not proposed or seconded, but

eventually Mr. P. Mullany said he would propose him in

order to put him in the running.

He was seconded by Mr. Costello.

The voting was then taken up and the following was the

result of

        First Poll.

For McHugh: - Messrs. Whyte, Mulhall, Fry, Cogan,

Patterson, J. Mullany, Mulloy, H. Lawrence, Brady,

McDermott, Lindsay, S. Lawrence, J. McDonagh, Murray,

Higgins, Gillespie, McHugh, Quinn – 13.

For Rafferty: - Messrs. Lloyd, chairman, Cooper,

Crichton, C. Cox, Finan, T. A. Cox, Kelly

(Ballinameen), P. Mullany, McGettrick – 10.

For McManamy: - Messrs. Gardiner, Dolan, O’Brien,

Sharkey, Clarke, Gray – 6.

For Cryan: - The MacDermotroe, Messrs. Lynch, Grogan,

McLoughlan, Priest – 5.

For Murphy: - Mr. Costello – 1.

For Tansey: - Mr. Kelly (Lisballely) – 1.

Murphy, Tansey and Cryan then dropped out.

        Final Poll

For McHugh: - Messrs. Whyte, Mulhall, The

MacDermotroe, Fry, Cogan, Patterson, Lynch, Grogan, J.

Mullany, Mulloy, H. Lawrence, Brady, McDermott,

Lindsay, S. Lawrence, McDonagh, McLoughlan, Murray,

Higgins, Gillespie, Priest, McHugh, Quinn – 23.

For Rafferty: - Messrs. Lloyd, chairman, Cooper,

Crichton, C. Cox, Finan, T. A. Cox, Kelly

(Ballinameen); P. Mullany, McKettrick – 10.

For McManamy: - Messrs. Gardiner, Dolan, Costelloe,

O’Brien, Kelly, Sharkey (Lisballely); Clarke, Gray –


McHugh was then accordingly declared elected by a

majority of 13 over Rafferty, and 15 over McManamy. He

returned thanks to the Board, and said he would do all

in his power to meet their requirements and give


The Board then adjourned.


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Roscommon Herald Articles No 39

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Roscommon Herald

11 June 1898


            An Appeal

The first case was an appeal of Mr. John Priest,

publican, Chapel Street, Boyle against a decision of

the magistrates presiding at Boyle petty sessions for

an alleged breach of the Licensing Act, in which he

was fined 10s. In a second case on the same day, in

which he was fined a £1, he also appealed.

Mr. P. C. P. MacDermott appeared for Mr. Priest, and

Mr. St. Geo. Robinson appeared for the Crown.

Constable Higgins deposed in reply to Mr. Robinson – I

am stationed in Boyle; I remember the 26th April. I

was on duty that evening along with Constable McGarry

about 11:35. Mr. Priest had a licensed public-house in

Eaton’s Lane, Boyle. Whilst passing the house we

observed light, and heard talking in the bar. We

remained for some time at the door, and afterwards we

knocked, and were admitted by the publican. We found

two men seated at the kitchen fire – Michael Horan and

Edward Cryan. Both those men belong to Boyle. There

were four glass measures on the table beside them, one

containing porter, and another containing some liquor

resembling wine. I questioned Mr. Priest as to what

brought those men there, and he said they were his

servants. He also told me to do my best, and to test

the case. Horan said he came there to put up a lock

for Mr. Priest. Mr. Priest said they came there after

10 o’clock, and afterward he contradicted himself, and

said they were there before 10 o’clock. Constable

McGarry asked when had Mr. Cryan become a tradesman,

as he was formerly a school teacher, and Cryan said he

was Mr. Priest’s servant also, and he was putting up a

lock along with Horan. It is a new house Mr. Priest is

building, which is opposite the licensed premises, and

on which they were putting on the lock.

Mr. MacDermot – They say one story is good until

another is told, and we will get to the other side to

explain it. Mr. Priest told you to do your best, and

test it.

Constable Higgins – Yes.

And you thought it was a very nice case to bring to

the court? – No.

You are aware that Mr. Priest is building one of those

fine new houses on the other side of the street? –


And there are several tradesmen working at it? – Two

to my knowledge.

Don’t you know that it takes more than two to build a

house? Do you know that Cryan and Horan work there? –


Can you say at what time they gave up working on that

day? – No.

Mr. Priest told you they were his servants, who were

working late that day for him, and he brought them in

and gave them a drink? – Yes.

You saw one of them having porter? – No.

Of course, you did not see him take it off his head.

You saw one of them had port wine. He was having a

more aristocratic drink than the other man, who had a

glass of porter? – Yes.

Now I see by a report of your evidence in the

"Herald", you stated that you were thirteen months

stationed in Boyle, and during that time Mr. Priest

conducted his house well? – Yes.

Constable McGarry gave corroborative evidence.

Mr. John Priest deposed in reply to Mr. MacDermott – I

have a public-house in Chapel Street. I am building a

new house. Those two men are working for me. One of

them is a teacher who is classed, but has no school.

He is working for me as a carpenter. On this night

they were working for me very late putting on a lock

in the new house. I was anxious to get it finished,

and that is the reason they worked so late. I am in

the habit of asking them over to have a drink. Horan

is kind of a teetotaller. He only drinks wine. The

other man drinks porter. I did not get payment, or

intend to get payment for the drink. It was between 9

and 10 o’clock when they gave over work.

Cross-examined by Mr. Robinson. You are building a new

house? – Yes.

How many men do you have working there? – I have five.

Do you bring them over every night? – Well, no; I do


You make an exception in favor of Horan and Cryan? – I

don’t bring them every night.

You had Horan on your premises after hours on the 28th

April, two nights after? – Yes.

How long were they working for you on the 26th April?

– They were working until some time between 9 and 10


Did you think that as a publican you were keeping

inside the licensing law by having those men on your

premises at half-past 11? –Yes.

You told the police they were your servants? – Yes.

You said Horan was putting on a lock? – Yes.

Did you explain to the police that the reason they

were there was to take a treat from you? – If the

police asked me, I would have told them.

You did not think it necessary? – No.

Did you lead the police to believe it was in your

licensed house they were putting up the lock? – No.

His Lordship – Now you seem to be a very respectable

man, and on your oath how often had you those men in

from time to time? – Well, I will swear positively I

had Horan in after 10 o’clock two dozen times since I

commenced building the house.

Why did you give them those drinks? What are their

wages? – Horan is earning 26s. a-week, and Cryan 23s.

On your solemn oath do you make any reduction in their

wages for those drinks? – On my oath I do not.

Michael Horan deposed in reply to Mr. MacDermot – I am

a carpenter working for Mr. Priest. I am working for

him eight months. I remember the 26th April. I was

working for him on that night until about half-past 9

putting on a lock. Cryan was along with me. After we

had finished Mr. Priest asked us over, and brought us

into the kitchen, and asked us what we would have. I

don’t drink anything but wine, so he gave me a glass

of Sedna wine. The other man had a glass of porter. I

did not pay for the Sedna, nor was there any reduction

in my wages for it. I was often in with Mr. Priest

checking over timber accounts.

Mr. Robinson – I suppose if you got a glass of this

Sedna wine every time you went there you would not

stir out of the place at all. – Possibly.

More fool if you would (laughter).

Edward Cryan gave corroborative evidence.

His Lordship said he would hear the second case before

he would give a decision.

The hearing of the second appeal was then commenced.

Constable Peter Dunne deposed in reply to Mr. Robinson

– I was on duty with Constable Kelly on the night of

the 28th April, about 11:30 p.m. I observed light in

the shop of Mr. Priest, and I rapped at the door, and

Mr. Priest admitted myself and Constable Kelly. I

entered the shop and found Michael Horan standing at

the counter, and a glass containing either whiskey or

wine before him. The moment we entered, and before we

had time to taste the liquor in the glass, he drank it

up. I asked Mr. Priest why he had this man on the

premises at that hour, and without answering me he

went to the window and took down a book, and commenced

to read the 54th section of the Licensing Act. I told

him he had better take it up with the court, and read

it to the magistrates (laughter).

Cross-examined by Mr. MacDermot.

He began to read the law for you? – Yes.

You did not listen to the law but went out? – We went


Did you see the liquor in the glass? – It occurred to

my mind it was wine by the colour.

Did you go and look at it? – No. He did not give us

the opportunity.

Are you a tetotaller [sic]? – Sometimes (laughter).

Were you a tetotaller [sic] at that time? – Yes.

Did you ever take any of this Sedna wine? – I may


Horan drank it, and the other man began to read the

law? – Yes.

Constable Kelly gave corroborative evidence.

Mr. Priest deposed in reply to Mr. MacDermot – On the

night of the 28th April, Michael Horan was working at

the new house, and I called him over to check a timber

account of Mr. Sloan’s, as he has more experience of

it than I have. While he was engaged in checking the

account, I left down a glass of Sedna wine, and then

the police rapped, and I admitted them. I did not get

any payment for it.

His Lordship – Don’t you see Mr. Priest what a mess

you have got into?

Michael Horan deposed that Mr. Priest asked him over

to check a timber account of Mr. Sloan’s, and while

they were engaged in going over it, the police came

in. It was a glass of Sedna wine Mr. Priest gave him.

Mr. MacDermot – Was it "fine old tawny" you got? – I

could not say (laughter).

Mr. Robinson – How often were you up for drunkenness?

– I was up once.

Mr. MacDermot – That is the reason he is a teetotaller


His Lordship – On the whole I think it is an honest

case, and I will reverse both decisions.


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Roscommon Herald Articles No 40

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October 16, 1897


Assault in a House


These petty sessions were held on Thursday before F.B.

Henn, Esq.,

R.M., and

J. Hannon, Esq., J.P.



     Michael Cran, Deroon, charged two men named James

Tonroe and William Snee with assaulting him.

     Cran deposed he was in a house of a man named Pat

Kerins, when Tonroe

accused him of stealing turf, and assaulted him.  Snee

also assaulted him.

     Tonroe - I have a few people to prove this man's


     Snee - Did you follow me to the house?  -- I did


     John Kerins deposed - I was in the house that

night.  There was a bit of

a scuffle, but it was worth nothing.  When Snee and

Cran came in, they had

some words, and were arguing with one another about

turf, and they struck each other.

     To Mr. Henn - I was trying to make peace.

     To Snee - Cran was arguing also; he fell on a

stool, but was not on the ground.

     To Cran - There was a sort of a scrape on your

face; I also saw blood on it.

     Mr. Henn - Did you see any blood on him before

the fight?  -- I did not, sir.

     To Tonroe - They were rushing at one another.

     Snee - Did Cran call me names?

     Witness - He called you "Flat feet" (laughter).

     A boy named Patrick Grady next deposed that when

Michael Cran came in to

Kerins' James Tonroe got up, and struck him.  They

then sat down after the

row for a few minutes until he went up and asked Snee

was it he told him he

stole the turf.  Whatever Cran said to Snee they got

in "holds," they separated again, but when Snee went to put a coal in

his pipe, Cran struck him.

     To Mr. Henn - Snee struck first, and Tonroe went

into the row, and struck Cran.

     To Tonroe - I did not see Cran come up and strike


     To Snee - Cran was saying nothing to you.

     John Francis Molony deposed - When Michl. Cran

came into Kerins,


Tonroe asked him did he steal his turf.  Cran said he

did not, and Tonroe got

up and struck him a box.  They were jostling up and

down the house, and John

Kerins made peace between them.  Cran next walked up

to Snee, and asked him

was it he told Tonroe that he stole his turf.  They

jostled about too, and

when Cran got up they struck him, and Tonroe kicked


     Snee - Did he strike me first? - No; he did not.

Did he call me out of my name?  - He called you a

"Blind scut"


     Mr. Henn - What is a "scut"? (laughter)

     A small boy named John O'Brien was next called

for the defence.

     Mr. Henn - Were you in the house this night?  --


     Mr. Henn - Well, go down so.

     Mr. Henn - We have evidence that you assaulted

Cran, as his face was covered with blood, and the witnesses also prove it.

Tonroe is fined 5s. and

2s. 6d. costs, and Snee 2s. 6d., and 2s. 6d. costs.


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Subject: [Cryan et al.] Roscommon Herald Articles No 41


Roscommon Herald Articles No 41

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This article refers to my great great grandfather John

Cryan's retirement.


Boyle, Saturday, October 24, 1896


Boyle Teachers' Association

     The usual Quarterly Meeting was held on Saturday

last, Mr. D. McLoughlin

presiding.  The following attended and paid their

subscriptions after their

names:  Mr. Cassigy, 4s.; Messrs. D. McLoughin [sic],

O'Rorke, Madden, Keany,

2s. each; Messrs. Barnes, Beirne, Kenny, Mullany,

Watters, Casey, 1s. each. 

The following sent in their subscriptions: Mrs.

Deacon, 2s.; Mr. Ludgate,

2s.; Misses Carolan, Condon, 2s. each; Misses Lane,

Cryan, 1s.; Messrs. Garahan, Flynn, Cryan, 1s. each.  The following

resolutions were adopted

unanimously:  1. "That we respectfully, but

emphatically, request the Treasury to pay us the balance of £72,000, admittedly

due to us under the Education Act of 1892, and, that we cannot accept a

subsidy of £10,000, a year to the pension fund as an equivalent, inasmuch as

the allocation of the

money for this purpose benefits future teachers alone,

at the expense of  present teachers to whom the money is justly due."  2.

"That in order to

encourage self-culture and to reward a most deserving

body of public servants, assistant teachers be paid the salary to

which their classification

entitles them."  3. "That in the interest of education

the average required

to entitle a school to the services of an assistant be

reduced to 60 and 50

in male and female schools respectively."  4. "That we

congratulate Mr. Cryan

on his retirement from the Board's service, and hope

he may be long spared to enjoy his well-merited pension."  5. "That we tender

Mrs. McLoughlin our

sincere congratulations on her recent marriage, and

wish herself and her

genial consort many happy years of wedded life."  6.

"That we congratulate

Mr. Beirne on his promotion to a principalship, and

wish he may be very successful in his new sphere of duties."  7. "That Mr.

Barnes be appointed treasurer of this association."  8. "That Messrs.

Casey and Keany be admitted members."  9. "That this association clear with

central funds for ten additional members." - F.J. Kenny, Sec.


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Roscommon Herald Articles No 42

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September 29, 1900


Ballymote Petty Sessions (Co. Sligo)


An Old Case of Trespass


     These petty sessions were held on Thursday,

before F. B. Henn,


R.M., presiding; H. Shaw, Esq., J.P.; J. Hannon, Esq.,

J.P.; A. O'D.


Esq., J.P.; J. O'Brien, Esq., J.P.; C. Graham, Esq.,


     Michael Gildea, senior, Ogham, summoned Catherine

Cryan, same

place, for

the trespass of a cow in his aftergrass.

     Charles Gildea, son of plaintiff, proved the

trespass, and also to

giving up the cow to defendant's son, and demanding


     Mrs. Cryan said she wanted Gildea to divide the

fence between


     Thomas Cryan deposed that when Gildea gave him

the cow, he offered


whatever was the amount of the trespass.

     Mr. Henn - Did you offer him money? - No, sir.

     Mr. Henn - Well, you should have done that.

     Mrs. Cryan, in reply to Mr. Henn, swore the fence

was never

divided, but

they used to make it in conjunction.

     Gildea said he divided the fence with the late

husband fo the


and had six men at it, and three men every year since.

 If she made her

portion of the fence as wellas he made his, he was

prepared to "swop"


his part with her.

     The bench gave a decree for sixpence trespass and

costs, and on the

suggestion of Mr. O'Brien it was decided to refer the

division of the


fence to Mr. Charles Graham, Knockalass.


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Subject: [Cryan et al.] Roscommon Herald Articles No 43


Roscommon Herald Articles No 43

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January 21, 1899


The Identity of a Heifer (Extracts)


     Pat Cryan sued Edward Wynne, Moygara, for £10,

being the value of



     Mr. MacCarthy appeared for plaintiff, and Mr.

Fenton defended.

     Mr. Fenton ordered the witnesses out of court

during the hearing

of the


     Pat Cryan deposed he sent two cattle to graze to

Mr. William


Redhill, Mullaghroe.  The cattle he sent were

yearlings.  He also had


oats from Mr. Baker and the cattle were grazing each

side of it.  He


the land himself for the crop.  He settled a gray

heifer on the 1st

May, and

a yellow one on the 9th.  It was about the yellow one

he was suing for. 

There were several yellow cattle on the land, but his

was a pale

yellow.  He

had no difficulty in finding out his own heifer from

the rest of the


but from what he had heard, he was aware his yellow

heifer was not on


farm.  When he went to the place he met Pat Mulligan,

Mr. Baker's


When he heard his heifer was not there, he went to

Wynne's place on the


November, and saw the heifer there.  He spoke to Mrs.

Wynne, and


the heifer to her.  He also saw Wynne on that day, and

he refused to

give up

the heifer.  They afterwards went to the farm

together, and on the way


said - "If you had the first pull you would take that

heifer."  They

afterwards went to the house of Mathew Mulligan, and

he identified the


that had been left on the farm as Wynne's.  He would

say his heifer was


[sic] for about £7 15s. or £8 on the day he saw her at

Wynne's.  He saw


heifer since, but she was gone back in condition.

     Cross-examined - Your heifer had a white tail? -


     Did you tell Miss Baker it had?  -- I did.

     Mrs. Wynne told you her heifer had a wart on the

eye, and you said


had also?" - I said it was a strage thing the animal

had a wart on the


as mine had one.

     Did you know the heifer that was left on the

farm?  -- Yes.

     That heifer has a white tail?  -- Yes.

     On your oath has this heifer a white tail?  --

There is a certain


of whiteon her tail.

     Didn't you tell Mr. Baker that your heifer had a

white tail?  --


     Didn't you tell me a couple of minutes ago that

you told Miss

Baker you

identified your heifer because it had a white tail?

-- If I did, I

said what

was wrong.

     Didn't Wynne say to you when you told Miss Baker

that his heifer

had not

a white tail, that he would give you the one with the

white tail?  --

No, he

did not.

     Has your heifer a white tail?  -- She has.

     Mr. MacCarthy - You say your heifer had a wart on

the eye?  --


     Is there a wart on the eye of te animal that has

been left on the


-- No.

     You say there was a star on the forehead of the

heifer on the

farm?  --


     And there is no star on your heifer?  -- No.

     Roger Tansey deposed de [sic] had a

year-and-a-half old on Mr.


farm from last year.  Wynne came to him when they were

taking away the


in November, and said there were two strawberry

heifers on the farm,


asked him did one of them belong to him.  Wynne had a

strawberry heifer

there, but did not know the animal.

     To Mr. Fenton - It is about a yellow heifer this

dispute arose,

and not

about a strawberry one.

     Mrs. Mary Anne Cryan, wife of plaintiff, deposed

she knew the


and saw her five or six times while on the farm.  She

always knew the


and could pick her out from the rest of the cattle.

At the time of the

dispute she went down to Wynne's along with her

husband and daughter,


identified the heifer when she saw her there.  She saw

the heifer that


still on Mr. Baker's farm.

     Witness was not cross-examined.

     Witness was then cross-examined.

     Kate Cryan dposed she knew the heifers her father

sent to graze to


Baker.  While the cattle were there she was working at

the oats, and


knew the cattle.  She went to Wynne's along with her

father and mother,


identified the heifer when she saw her.  There was a

mixture of white

on the

tail, and a small wart on the eyelid.

     Cross-examined - Every time you went on the farm

did you see the


 -- I did.

     And examined her carefully?  -- Yes.

     Had your heifer a white tail?  -- All the tail

was not white.

     Michael Mulligan deposed he lived in Moygara,

which was only about


quarter of a mile from Redhill, where the cattle were.

 He knew Cryan

had two

heifers, and saw them while grazing.  He went down to

Wynne's house to


the heifer the dispute was about, and he would swear

that was the same


that Cryan pointed out to him on the farm as his.

     Cross-examined - Will you swear the same heifer

we have now is the


heifer you saw as a calf on Cryan's land?  -- I will

swear she is the



     Andrew Mulligan deposed he was herding for Mr.

Baker last summer. 


knew one of the heifers Cryan put on the land, and he

said "she was

very like

Ned Cryan's red heifer."  He did not know which of the

yellow heifers

is on

the farm now.

     Pat Queenan deposed he was a neighbour of both

parties, and

brother-in-law of Pat Cryan.  He knew the heifer and

went to see her. 


he saw her he said she was Pat Cryan's heifer.  He

suggested when he

went to

Wynne's to let out the two heifers and each of them

would take their

own road

home.  Wynne would not consent to that.

     Cross-examined - Before there was any dispute did

you go to see


heifer?  -- I did.

     Aren't the two heifers very like each other?  --

They are not.

     Martin Dwyer deposed he had conacre oats on Mr.

Baker's land quite


to where Cryan had his.  Cryan showed him the heifer

on the 5th June. 


went to see the heifer at Wynne's on the 4th November.

 He would swear


that heifer was the same heifer that Cryan pointed out

to him in June.

     Cross-examined - Do you swear who the heifer

belongs to?  -- No.

     John Cawley deposed he was uncle of Cryan, and

knew the stock

Cryan had.

 He saw this particular heifer on the 9th May, but did

not see her

since.  He

would say the heifer presently on the farm was not


     Edward Wynne, the defendant, deposed he knew the

heifer, as he had

reared the animal himself.  She was on his own farm

until he sent her


graze on Mr. Baker's farm.  He saw the animal

frequently.  Before he

sent her

to graze, she had a wart on her right eye, and a

yellow tail.  There

was no

mark on her forehead.

     To his Lordship - There was no white on her tail

that I could


     Examination continued - Cryan and I went before

Miss Baker about


matter.  She told him to bring away his calf that was

now on the land

and to

pay the grazing.  She told him that Cryan told her the

heifer had a


tail.  The heifer on the land now has a white tail.

The heifer I have

now, I

pointed her out to James Mulligan, the herd [sic].  I

spoke to him

about the

wart, and suggested that a hair should be tried on it.

     Cross-examined - Which of the heifers is the

best?  -- I would say


one I have at home is the best.

     You had not conacre there. - No.

     And you had not the same reasons for visiting the

farm as he had? 

-- No.

     There is a difference in the colour of the

animals?  -- There is.

     Is the heifer you have at home white from the

bone of the tail