From: "jcrain"
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Subject: [Cryan et al.] Crean - Co.Sligo
Date: Wed,
12 Sep 2001 11:27:08 +1000
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Sean
Have
some 'James Crean's in my tree although none born in the town of
Do you
have info on your GG grandfather's birth or when he (or another
of
your for fathers )went to
find
out more about some
of
those in my tree. I have nothing further back than about 1875.
Maybe
we can find a link
Regards
Jim
From: "Kevin
Crean" <CMNX@msn.com> | Block Address | Add to Address Book
Date: Wed,
12 Sep 2001 16:39:15 -0400
Subject: [Cryan et al.] Cryan Obit
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While
on a work-related trip in
the
local daily paper -- The Times Herald-Record -- and found a paid
memorial
obit for a Kevin Martin Cryan. The date
of the paper is Tuesday,
July
17, 2001. The memorial ad is a 3x3 inch
box, including a
photograph
and the following:
"In
Loving Memory
Kevin
Martin Cryan
8-1-56 7-17-96
5th
Anniversary in Heaven
"A
Beautiful Life Came To An End, He Died As He Lived
Everyone's
Friend."
We
Love You and Miss You So Much
Mom,
Dad, Christine, Michael, Maureen, Kathleen, Colleen, Stephen,
Eileen
& Laureen"
If
anyone can claim this Cryan I will gladly send the original
newspaper
ad.
Kevin
Crean
Date: Tue,
18 Sep 2001 23:49:41 +0100 (BST)
From: "Caoimhghin
O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> | Block Address | Add to Address Book
Subject: [Cryan et al.] Roscommon Herald 1899, 1899, 1900
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Roscommon
Herald 1898
cryan-l@rootsweb.com
29 Jan
1898
p4
Ballymote
Petty Sessions
A row
on the road from Boyle
John
Cryan / Michael Cryan
Roddy
Cryan / Batty Breheny / Owen Breheny
art
5 Feb
1898
p2
Boyle
Teachers Ass.
Miss
Cryan [Treasurer]
m
5 Mar
1898
Ballymote
Creamery
New
Shareholders
Mrs
Cryan - Carrigeens
m
2 Apr
1898
p9
Boyle
Board of Guardians
Election
of School Master
Edward
Cryan of Keash
art
9 Apr
1898
p3
Boyle
Board of Guardians
A hard
case
Darby
and John Crann
art
7
May1898
p1
Tenancy
on Rockingham Estate
John
Cryan Carrowcrory
Pat
Cryan Tulla
m
14 May
1898
p5
Licensing
Case
Boyle
Petty Sessions
Edward
Cryan
art
28 May
1898
p5
Boyle
Petty Sessions
Selling
Drink to a Drunken Man
Pat Cryan
James Cryan
art
11
June 1898
p2
Boyle
Quarter Sessions
An
Appeal
Edward
Cryan
art
25 Jun
1898
p5
Trespass
Michael
Crann - Carrow cashaely
art
15 oct
[Madame
Edgeworth]
22 oct
p8
[First
Cinematograph Living Pictures in Courthouse]
p9 4th
col
The
masters report
A man
named cryan …
art
12 Nov
p2
Constable
Crane
m.
26 nov
p2
suicide
case
Jurors
John Cryan James Cryan and James Cryan
[Ballinultha]
m.
24 Dec
p2
Death
of canon Nangle Croghan
art
31 Dec
p2
[obit
and genealogy of Charles Owen O Connor]
art
finished
Roscommon
Herald 1899
cryan-l@rootsweb.com
21 Jan
p3
Ballymotte
Quarter Sessions
The
Identity of a Heifer
Pat
Cryan
art.
11 Feb
p9
Ballymote
Creamery
Winnifred
Cryan, Ardnaglass, and Martin Cryan,
Carrowrea,
were admitted members of the society.
25 Mar
p5
Boyle
Petty Sessions
Identity
of a grave
James
Cryan Ballinultha
art.
1Apr
p4
News
in Brief
[New
organ in Ardcarne church]
art
8
April
p3
[Great
Meeting in Croghan]
art
22 Apr
Boyle
No2 District Council [
John
Cryan elected vice chairman
m.
20 May
p1
[The
Irish Language - Ballaghdereen Notes]
1 Jul
p3
Mohill
Petty Sessions
Co
Leitrim
An
Assault
Pat
Cryan Mohill
art.
22 Jul
p1
[Death
of Bartley Judge of the Green Boyle - Assylin]
26 Aug
p2
Suicide
of Co Longford Farmer
John
Crane
Art.
16 sep
p5
[Drurys
in
art
4 nov
p1
The
Ball Ballaghdereen
Mr and
Misses Cryan
m
25 nov
p3
Teachers
meetings
T.
Cryan Chairman of Ballaghdereen Teachers
Association
m.
16 Dec
p8
Ballymote
Petty Sessions
Assault
Andrew
and Michael Crann
art.
finished
Roscommon
Herald 1900
cryan-l@rootsweb.com
3 Feb
p8
Boyle
Teachers As.
Cryan
m.
17 feb
[lighting
of Boyle]
3 mar
p3
Messrs
John Cryan Boyle
and
John Gavican, Mockmoyne were admitted shareholders
Boyle
Creamery
m.
28 Apr
p9 UIL
[Splendid
demo at Croghan]
art
18 aug
p1
[Motor
cars in Boyle]
art
p3
[obit
James Beirne Warren Boyle]
art
25 aug
News
in Brief
All
arrangements are now complete for the holding of
the
Boyle Athletic and Cycling Sports which take place
on
Sunday in the Drill Field which has been kindly
given
for the occasion by Mr John Cryan.
see
also p5 report of event
m.
1 sep
Honors
List
Edward
Crean
Pass
in Latin French English Arithmetic
m.
also
News
in Brief
Miss
Amy Cryan, daughter of Mr Cryan the respected
teacher
of Townybrack National School Ballaghdereen,
has
taken second place in all
Grade
Intermediate Examination.
m.
15 Sep
p5
Ballymote
Petty Sessions
A
Keash Licensing Case
Martin
Cryan and Margaret Cryan
art.
29 sep
p1
Boyle
Creamery
James Cryan
m.
also
p4
Ballymote
Petty Sessions
Old
Case of Trespass
Catherine
Cryan
art
6 oct
News
in Brief
[Marriage
of Constance Gore Booth]
27 oct
[Boyle
Qtr Sess- An Estersnow case- Beirne]
art
27 oct
Ballymote
Petty Sessions
Poaching
Mary
Cryan
art
3 nov
p1
[Croghan
great october fair]
art
not
finished
Date: Fri,
21 Sep 2001 17:14:49 +0100 (BST)
From: "Caoimhghin
O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> | Block Address | Add to Address Book
Subject: [Cryan et al.] throne
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Hi
For
those of you who were in interested in my story of
the
throne with the Crean motto carved on it, see the
page
I've put together below:
http://geocities.com/caoimhghin/throne.html
caoimhghin
Date: Sat,
22 Sep 2001 16:05:35 +0100 (BST)
From: "Caoimhghin
O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> | Block Address | Add to Address Book
Subject: [Cryan et al.] Articles
To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
Hi
Thanks
for your comments re: the throne - at some
stage
I will try and find out more about it. Maybe we
can
find some kind of continuity between the Creans of
artefact.
I have
sent another bundle of references to the
Roscommon
Library for copying from the microfilm [30
articles].
I should get them back soon. A lot of
people
have now offered to type and some have already
done
some which I really appreciate. But in case some
found
it more burdensome than they expected I will ask
for
new offers [even from the same people] rather than
assume
you want to do it again. So if you would like
to
help please send me your address over the next few
days
and I will divide up the articles according to
the
amount of addresses I receive. That way I can get
them
up on the list really fast.
Thanks
again
caoimhghin
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Date: Wed,
26 Sep 2001 01:07:36 +0100
Subject: [Cryan et al.] Re: Cryan
To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
Sorry
to take so long to reply.
This
seem to be the family that you are looking for as shown in the
1881
census.
There is no Roger Cryan of the age you state in
date.
Dwelling:
Census Place: Bishopwearmouth,
James CRYAN M 41 M
Ireland
Rel: Head
Occ: Laborer In Iron Works
Margaret
CRYAN M 41 F
Rel: Wife
Occ: Laborer In Iron Works Wife
James
D. CRYAN U 23 M Sunderland,
Rel: Son
Occ: Laborer In Iron Works
Roger
CRYAN 12 M Sunderland,
Rel: Son
Occ: Scholar
John
CRYAN 10 M Sunderland,
Rel: Son
Occ: Scholar
William
CRYAN 8
M Sunderland,
Rel: Son
Occ: Scholar
Margaret
CRYAN 7
F Sunderland,
Rel: Daur
Occ: Scholar
Ellen
TAYLOR U 48 F
Rel: Sister In Law
James
KEARNS U 28 M
Rel: Boarder Lodger
Occ: Pavior
Anthony
KEARNS U 23 M
Rel: Boarder Lodger
Occ: Pavior
Thomas
GARA M 47 M
Rel: Boarder Lodger
Occ: Farm Laborer
James
TAYLOR W 83 M Welby,
Rel: Father In Law
Occ: Pensioner
However
this James seems to have been born about 1840 and I do have a
Roger
producing
children in the 1840's in the RC parish of Ardcarn and Tumna
which
is also
called Cootehall. I have been looking at the parish registers
for
Ardcarn
and Tumna but they only start in 1843 and there is only one
entry
for
this family. It is possibly of the same family but we have no
proof.
Here
it is....
Patrick
Cryan bapt 22 April 1844 Ardcarn & Tumna RC Co Roscommon
Parents
Roger CRYAN and Margaret FLYNN
(these
names were written Roderici and Margarettae - I suppose the
priest's
version
in Latin).
I do
have a marriage of Roger CRYAN and Eleanor NOONE 19 Feb 1819 in
Boyle
your
James born about 1840 would have been one of the youngest children
of
this
couple.
Good
Luck
Eve
-----
Original Message -----
From:
"john cryan" <john@cryan.freeserve.co.uk>
To:
< >
Sent:
Monday, September 17, 2001 8:40 PM
Subject:
Cryan
Hi Eve
Does
you have any information on anyone called Roger Cryan born in
Ireland
D.O.B
unknown but before 1810 he was in Sunderland in 1886 living in
Fitters
Row ,
Bishopwearmouth,
he was
at his sons wedding James Cryan born 1840 Ireland marrying
Margaret
Dalziel
(formerly Taylor) 18Nov 1866.
Roger
,James ,Williamand Winnifred are regular names popping up in my
family.
regards
John.
Date: Mon,
1 Oct 2001 11:02:34 +0100 (BST)
From: "Caoimhghin
O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> | Block Address | Add to Address Book
Subject: [Cryan et al.] Roscommon Herald Articles No 26
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Thanks
to Pat Hunt for the typing
Roscommon
Herald Articles No 26
Roscommon
Herald 14-2-1891
Leitrim
County Committee
On
last Sunday a meeting of the above was held in
Keshcarrigan
for the
purpose
of drawing the first ties for the county
championship.
The
following
members attended: ‹Owen Gray, Gorvagh Brian
Borus;
Edward Mealia,
Kiltubride
Redmonds; Pat Flynn, Ballinamore Oughtrough
Wolfe
Tones; John Ward,
Annaduff
Parnellites; Francis Short, Cloone
O?Connells;
Pat Reynolds, Kiltubride
Davitts;
Hugh Reynolds, Mohill Faugh-a-Ballaghs;
Robert
Cryan, Carrick
Emmets;
J.J.Kelleher, Bornacoola Hugh O?Neills; John
Flynn,
Eslin
Sarsfields;
John Gray, Gorlettera Campaigners; John
Reynolds,
Co.
Treasurer;
and J.J. Mulligan, Co Secretary.
As the chairman, Mr Murphy, was absent
again, Mr
Patt
Flynn,
Ballinamore,
presided.
The minuts of last meeting were read by the
secretary,
and as he
was
leaving the book before the chairman to sign, Mr
Cryan,
from Carrick,
objected,
and proposed that the resolution passed at
last
meeting in
Mohill
against Mr Parnell be rescinded, and resolution
instead
passed at this
meeting
in favour of him, which was seconded by Mr
Ward,
Annaduff.
Mr Mulligan objected, and called on the
chairman
not to
entertain
it, as
it was illegal to do so without giving notice,
and if
Mr Cryan wanted
to do
so, by all means let him give notice on today
that
the resolution
against
the fallen leader be rescinded at next
meeting.
Mr Cryan - No, it will divided on today. We
came
here
to transact the
business
of the county, and it is our duty to rescind
that
uncalled-for
resolution
against Mr Parnell who did so much for the
people.
Mr Mulligan‹When you thought so much about
Mr
Parnell
why did you
Not
come to the meeting in Mohill, and stand by him?
Mr Cryan - We were not affiliated at that
time.
Mr Mulligan - Well, it seems you did not
think
much
of him or you
would
pay 10s in order to gain the victory.
Mr Cryan - It was a hole-and-corner meeting
you
held
when you passed
that
resolution.
Mr Mulligan - It's wrong. Each member whose
club
was
affiliated got
due
notice, and I call on the members present if any
one
can say they did
not
get notice, and besides it appeared in the HERALD
to
give such men as
you a
chance to come forward.
Mr Cryan again called on the chairman to
put it to
the
meeting.
Mr Flynn maintained that Mr Cryan was out
of order
in
introducing
the
matter before the meeting. We came here to draw
the
first ties for the
county
championship and arrange for kicking off the
ties,
and not for
discussing
politics. When politics were introduced to
be
discussed
relative
to Mr Parnell?s leadership at the last
meeting,
you, Mr Cryan put in no
appearance.,
but now you come at the eleventh hour to
upset
what the Co
Committee
has done in the past. He has asked the
chairman
several times
to put
his motion before the meeting, and the
chairperson
explained to him
very
fairly his reason for not doing so, and still Mr
Cryan
wants to make
one
end of his tongue a liar of the other.
Chairman‹Now, gentlemen, I would rather
you, Mr
Cryan,
would not
press
on me to do so, and my reason is this because I
believe
in the course
of a
few days this difference that has risen in the
ranks
of the Irish Party
will
be settled, and it is our duty to keep silent
until
such time as they
do so.
For
myself I am in favour of Mr Parnell, but for peace
sake I
would
much
rather keep silent at present, because it does
not
matter a pin what we
do in
the matter. It will be abler men that will
settle
this affair. I got
notice
from Mr Mulligan to attend the last meeting,
but
unfortunately
could
not, and if I had been there I would have given
my
vote for Mr Parnell.
I
don't deny it, and I wrote to Mr Mulligan to that
effect,
but it seems
my
note was not a vote. However, when things have
happened
as they did, I
would
much rather we would keep silent for the
further.
Mr Cryan - I press on you, Mr Chairman, to
put my
motion
before the
meeting
and it will settle it at once.
Mr Mulligan again objected, and called on
the
chairman
not to
entertain
it.
Chairman‹I will vacate my seat, and let
some other
chairman
conduct
the
business.
Mr Cryan - No, you will not; you are an
independent
chairman, and why
not do
your duty?
Mr Flynn‹I propose that Mr Cryan is out of
order
for
introducing
the
matter before the meeting.
Mr Kelleher seconded Mr Flynn's
proposition.
Several members‹It is just the same. It is
the
same
voting.
Mr Flynn - No, for I know the reason Mr
Cryan
introduces
the matter,
because
I cannot take part in the vote or my friend,
Mr
Kelleher, for
we
must leave while it is going on.
According to my
position
I cannot
take
part, and if I was aware that such would be
before
the meeting, there
would
be a delegate in my place here, as there
was on
the
last occasion.
Mr Cryan - Oh, Mr Flynn, you will not boss
us that
way.
The Gaels of
Leitrim
are not going to be voiced as they were at the
last
meeting.
Here Mr Ward wheeled about in a tiger's
rage ready
to
devour, and
immediately
turned his back to the meeting, and he
addressing
them.
The sec. Called on Mr Ward to control his
temper
and
manners too,
and
told him not to be impertinent, for he and Mr
Cryan
had disturbed the
meeting,
and seemingly came for that purpose. When Mr
Ward
got notice
to
attend he acted the coward.
Mr Cryan pressed his motion.
Mr Flynn told him he was a disturber, and a
man
like
him was coming
into
their ranks at the eleventh hour, and raising
disunion
between members
that
worked together from the start of the association
in
friendship. They
should
not be divided by men like Mr Cryan, and if his
strength
was according
to his
ability such as it is, he would not call the
Grand
Old Man his
cousin
(great laughter).
Mr Cryan‹I was in the ranks as soon as you,
Mr
Flynn.
Mr Flynn‹Well, you were early so, for I
think I
was
the first to
put a
start on the movement in Leitrim, and I always
observed
the rules and
caused
no disunion or discord among my brother Gaels.
Mr Cryan again pressed on the chairman to
put his
motion
before the
meeting.
Mr Mulligan proposed that the resolution
passed in
Mohill
against
the
leadership be upheld.
Mr John Reynolds, Co treasurer, seconded
the
proposition,
and said
it was
uncalled for to see men like Mr Cryan or Mr
Ward,
that had not the
pluck
of Irishmen when called on at the special
meeting,
to come forward and
give
their opinions, but now they saw that they had an
opportunity,
which
they
would not if notice were given - of rescinding
the
resolution, but
there
would be as before two to one against the man
that
fell by his own
acts.
He always supported Mr Parnell?s views and his
followers,
and never kept a
clenched
fist against the calls of Nationality when
those
that are now
supporting
him were behind time.
As the vote was going to be taken, Mr Flynn
and Mr
Kelleher
had to
leave,
but thanks to the "Hugh O'Neills," they had a
man to
take the
place
of Mr Kelleher, if politics would be introduced.
Mr Cryan called for all that loved Parnell
to come
to his
side.
Mr Mulligan called for all that loved faith
and
fatherland
and a
spotless
leader to come on his side.
For Mr Cryan's motion there voted - Ward,
Gray,
Campaigners,
Short
and
Cryan.
For Mulligan's ‹Reynolds, Gray, Brian
Borus,
Reynolds,
Hugh
O'Neills,
and Mulligan.
The chairman declined to give his vote
although
called
on by the
Parnellites.
The anti-Parnellites cheered "Bravo,
chairman, may
your
name for
ever
shine!"
So Mr Cryan?s motion was blocked, and the
Leitrim
Gaels
are still
anti-Parnellites.
Mr Mealia and Mr Reynolds, Kiltubride, did
not
vote,
and Mr Hugh
Reynolds,
Mohill, said on account of his not voting
before
he would not
vote
now.
Date: Mon,
1 Oct 2001 11:08:38 +0100 (BST)
From: "Caoimhghin
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Subject: [Cryan et al.] Roscommon Herald Articles No 27
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Thanks
to Pat Hunt for the typing
[this
one refers to the death of great grandfather's
brother
- caoimhghin]
Roscommon
Herald Articles No 27
Roscommon
Herald 8-2-1902
Boyle
Teachers' Association
The
usual monthly meeting was held at the courthouse
on
Saturday 25th
January.
The following subscriptions were handed in:‹
Mr
Gordon, 5s;
Mrs
Deacon,
3s; Mr O'Rourke, 2s.6d. Miss Martin, Messrs
Barnes,
McLoughlin,
Beirne,
Kenny, Cassidy, Nangle, McDermott, Graham,
1s.6d
each. Mrs
Boylan,
and Mr
Kenny paid 2s.6d each towards the O'Donnell
fund
since last
acknowledgement.
The nominations for C.E. for the year
1902
are ‹
Clarke,
Central
Secretary; Hegarty, President; Moore,
Treasurer,
and Nangle and
McGettrick,
Connaught representatives. The outgoing
officers
tendered
their
resignation
and were re-elected. The following
resolutions
were passed‹
(1) -
"That the meetings of this Association for the
current
year be held
on
the
thirds Saturdays of April, July and October, and
that
no further
intimation
of date of meetings be given to members
except
notice in
Class
Journals;
(2) - "That Mr J McDermott be admitted a
member
of the
Association.
(3) -
That we deeply sympathise with Mr Cryan and
family
of Croghan, on
the
premature
death of Mr John Cryan." - E.J.
Kenny ,
P.J.
Beirne, secs.
Date: Mon,
1 Oct 2001 11:15:07 +0100 (BST)
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Subject: [Cryan et al.] Roscommon Herald Articles No 28
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Thanks
to Pat Hunt for the typing
Roscommon
Herald Articles No 28
Roscommon
Herald 24-11-1894
The
Daring Robberies in Boyle -
An
Adventurous Youth. - Returned for Trial
Roscommon
Herald, Saturday, November 24, 1894
(excerpts)
On Wednesday, Mr R.G. Bull, R.M., sat in
Boyle
courthouse
and held
aninvestigation
into the charges of robbery of a
bicycle,
bulgariously
entering
the house of Mr John Cahill, Elphin Street,
Boyle,
and taking
therefrom
a pair of boots, of entering in a similar
manner
the house of
MrJames
Candon, Bank Lane, Boyle, and stealing therefrom
a sum
of money,
preferred
against Thomas Lavin, Carricknahornia.
..........................
Martin Cryan, publican and farmer,
Carrowrea, Co
Sligo,
deposed to thebody portion of the bicycle being left at his his
house
by last witness.
Sergeant
Lynch took it away.
Actin Sergeant Lynch, Keash, deposed‹On the
6th
inst.
I receivedinformation that a portion of a bicycle was at Cryan's
house,
whither I
wentand
got a wheel and the body of the bicycle, including
the
chain, now
produced.
On the 8th inst. I obtained one wheel,
saddle,
pouch, handles
andother
parts from Patrick Henry, of Carrowcrory. On the
9th I
receivedscrews. On the 10th I received handles, brake,
mudguard
and pedal. I
brought
all to the police barrack and produce them now.
......................
Martin Cryan, Carrowrea, gave evidence as
to Lavin
going
to his house at
about
10.8 on Sunday morning, the 4th inst. That was
about
five Irish miles
from
Boyle. Lavin asked for a post-car. Witness said
he
could not supply one
just
then, but if he waited till after Mass he could
supply
him. Lavin waited till then and was supplied with a car. He gave
him
coppers to the amount of £2.9s or
£2.12s, and witness gave him a half
sovereign
and the rest in silver in exchange.
Date: Tue,
2 Oct 2001 12:49:24 +0100 (BST)
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Subject: [Cryan
et al.] Roscommon Herald 1900 / 1901
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Roscommon
Herald 1900 / 1901
17 nov
1900
Dromod
Petty Sessions
[fr
hourican, drumsna]
24 Nov
1900
[p1
the gaelic league, croghan creamery cartoon,
p3
extraordinary scene at croghan creamery]
24 nov
1900
[croghan
petty sessions
An
Eastersnow case
Martin
Beirne
art]
1 Dec
1900
p1 1st
col
[Longford
notes Gaelic League and gaelic notes, art]
[land
sub commission Longford, hourican]
8 dec
1900
[p1
Gaelic notes art]
also
[obit
p3 p. houtican]
also
[Hyde
and mcAleese art]
15 dec
1900
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