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The
Bogus Prosecution of the Drumshambo Rowdies in
Carrick
The
secret alliance that exists between Parnell and
Balfour
was made clear to all men by the transactions
in
Carrick on Saturday last. The Drumshambo Rowdies
who
led the attack on the Nationalist meeting last
February
in Carrick, were put on their trial for riot
in a
Crimes Act court before Removables Paul and
after
some mysterious “colloguings” between the
solicitors,
it was announced that the Crown had
withdrawn
the prosecutions against R. J. Cryan, and
James
McDermott, jun., tailor, Carrick, and John
McManus,
rate collector, Drumshambo. […]
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19
April 1902
The
Auxilliaries
The
next matter under consideration of the affiliation
of
Cloonloo and Carrowcrory auxilliaries with the
Boyle
Society. […] The experts of the Irish
Agricultural
Organization Society, Mr Horace Plunkett
and
Father Finlay, were in favour of the establishment
of the
auxilliaries.
Mr
Cryan said he had come there on behalf of the
Carrowcrory
auxiliary. He even advised the Carrowcrory
shareholders
not to come to this meeting as
shareholders
at all, although he believed they got
notice
to attend. He told them not to attend as it
would
cause friction.
Chairman
- That is a wrong opinion.
Mr
Cryan said from experience at the last meeting it
would
come to something like it. They came prepared to
pay
their own expenses, and if required would pay for
their
house and machinery. They only wanted
co-operation.
They were prepared to do their part if
the
Boyle Society did theirs.
Mr
McManamy - I think I can speak for the Cloonloo
shareholders,
and I say we are prepared to pay for our
house
and machinery.
The
chairman asked how may cows they could guarantee
from
Carrowcrory.
Mr
Cryan - Unfortunately I did not come exactly
prepared.
Chairman
- Would you have 200?
Mr
Cryan - We could have 500 cows. We have 300 at the
present
time.
Mr
McManamy said he could endorse every word of what
Mr
Cryan had said with regard to the expense of
getting
up the house and machinery. He defied any man
prove
that their expenses will be £3 a week. […]
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Roscommon
Herald
January
30 1892
Cloonfinlough
to the Front
Mr Michael Carley, Cloonfinlough, processed
Michael
Cryan, of the
same
place,
for trespass amounting to £6 regarding a
disputed
portion of
bog.
Mr McDonnell was for the plaintiff, and Mr
Joseph
Burke,
B.L.
defended.
Mr Hanley, surveyor, produced the map, and
gave
evidence
as to the
survey.
Here Mr McDonnell drew attention to Cryan,
who
looking
daggers at
the
surveyor.
Carley examined by Mr McDonnell - My father
before
me was
using
this
piece
of bog. I had it in tillage three years. Mr
Holmes,
the agent,
told
the
bailiff to allow me till the cut-away. The third
year
all the
"splits"
were
turn up. The Head Constable came out, and Cryan
said
it was he dug
up
"the
spuds". The same year Cryan's son pulled up the
stalks,
and he was
fined
before the magistrates. They appealed, and it
was
not heard
since.
I
lost about
30 cwt of potatoes.
To Mr Burke - I am tenant to the landlord
of that
portion.
I did
not
put
that
piece in the courts to have a fair rent fixed. I
had
the title of
it,
and
Cryan never paid rent for it. I had the bog, in
addition
to my
land.
I
put
about a hundred ass loads of manure on that bog. I
was
put to jail
a
long
time ago over a dispute regarding that bog.
Cryan ("sotto voce") - And his
father and his
mother
(laughter).
Mr McDonnell - Mr Cryan won't deny that
himself
was in
jail. It is
the
case
of many a good man.
Mr Burke interrupted.
Mr McDonnell - Will you sit down, Mr Burke,
you
are
like a man with
a
bee in
your -- well, somewhere (laughter).
Mr McDonnell said his throat was sore
today, and
he
would not talk.
Mr
Burke
sat down. Cold water was strong today.
John Elwood, who was served with a subpoena
did
not
appear.
His Lordship fined Elwood £1.
Jane Carley deposed in reply to Mr
McDonnell, that
she
was in
occupation
of the
place twenty three years.
Mr
Byrne, the bailiff, gave evidence in favour of
Carley.
To his Lordship - I know what those fools are
fighting
about. It
is not
worth
their dinner. I gave permission to Carley from
Mr
Holmes to till
part
of
this bog.
Pat Barry deposed in reply to Mr McDonnell
that
the
bog was worth
twopence
a year. Cryan never used this bog before
Carley,
and he had
crops
on it
three years.
His Lordship did not proceed further with
the
case.
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Roscommon
Herald
March
30 1895
The
Old Woman and the Young Man
Catherine Walsh summoned a respectable
looking man
named
James
Cryan
for
having
assaulted her. Cryan had a cross-case against
Catherine
for a
like
reason.
The parties live near Boyle on the
Catherine deposed that on last Monday week
Cryan
went
into her
garden
and
assaulted her by throwing her to the ground. They
had
words about
hay,
and
after throwing her Cryan took the hay away. A
brother
of Cryan's
came
in
at the
end and beseeched them to make peace.
Cryan - How often did you strike me with
the
stick?
Catherine - Ah, about twenty times I
believe
(laughter).
How often did you strike me with stones?
Ah, go
long
out of that,
you
and
the stones (laughter).
Didn't you throw stones at me? - Sure an
ould
woman
like me
couldn't
be
a
little boy like you (laughter).
Mr Bull - Did you strike him with the
stick?
Catherine - I did.
Mr Bull -Was that before or after he threw
you? -
After.
Cryan - Did you know that I had that hay
from your
son? -
No.
Mr Bull said the court would be quite right
in
protecting
the
woman,
but
they
could not allow her to strike a man with a stick.
Mr Gillespie asked Catherine if she had any
witnesses.
Catherine - Ah, sorra witness. It was his
brother
came
into the
garden.
Cryan - Her own cousin was there.
John Cryan, brother of the defendant,
deposed,
amid
comical
ejaculations
from
Catherine, that when he and his brother went to
take
the hay,
which
they
had authority to do, Catherine struck the
defendant
several times
with
a
stick.
Catherine - What are you going down there at all
for?
What claim
have
you?
Defendant deposed that at the time
plaintiff's son
got
married to
his
sister,
he gave him authority to take the hay. He had
a
letter from her
son
to
that defect. He (defendant) would not
strike an
old
woman like the
plaintiff.
Mr Bull said that if they were satisfied
that
Cryan
assaulted the
woman
in the
first instance they would send him to jail -
Catherine - He wants that (laughter).
Mr
Bull -For a month. But she assaulted first, and
both
cases were
dismissed.
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Roscommon
Herald
30
March 1895
Transfer
of License
Mr John Cryan applied for the transfer of
the
license
held by Mr
F.R.
Phillips,
Mr Gillespie explained that Mr Cryan had Mr
McDermot,
solicitor,
employed
but that gentleman was absent.
Mr Michael Cunningham, T.C. said he had all
the
documents
in
connection
with
the sale of the house to Mr Cryan, which sale he
as an
auctioneer
had
executed. On Mr McDermot's return the assignment
would
be completed.
Mr Bull - Is he in possession of the
premises?
Mr Cunningham - Virtually. He has paid the
money.
In reply to Mr Bull,
Mr Cryan said he desired to carry on the
spirit
trade
in Mr
Phillips
premises.
Mr Bull - I was under the impression that
you were
taking
Mr
O'Connor's
house.
Mr Cunningham - No. Mahon's house. He
expended a
large
sum of money
on
that
place, but, of course, he will have to forego it.
Mr Bull
- Very well, the bench are unanimous in
granting
the
license
till
the June Quarter Sessions.
A few unimportant drunkenness cases having
been
disposed
of, their
worships
rose.
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Roscommon
Herald
Saturday
July 27, 1895
Alleged
Abusing A Woman
Mrs Bridget Cryan, the Crescent, summoned
James
Quinn,
a neighbour,
for
using
abusive language towards her. There was a
cross-summons
for a
like
offence.
Plaintiff stated that Quinn gave her the
height of
scandal.
He said
he
would
walk on her, called her a rogue, and said her
husband
was a
rotten
soldier.
She had to bring him up before for his
conduct.
Mr Bull - What is the cause of this?
Quinn - It is all politics, sir (laughter).
Plaintiff - I never spoke to him for the
last
three
years, since I
got
him
bound to the peace ---
Quinn - You and your husband only summon at
election
times. I deny
the
charge.
Mr Bull - Have you any questions to ask
her?
Quinn - I have (to plaintiff) - On your
oath did
you
not say on the
18th
that
"the Parnellites" and the "big-headed man"
(laughter)
were landed?
-On
my
oath I did not, and I can call a gentleman who
witnessed
your
conduct.
Mrs Ellen Doherty deposed to hearing Quinn
say he
would
walk on Mrs
Cryan,
who never answered him. Quinn was always at her
(witness)
as
well
as
Mrs
Cryan.
Quinn - Didn't this woman send you to abuse
me?
Witness - Never.
Quinn - She did, and especially since the
last
General
Election
they
would
not allow a cart of turf turn up to my door. I
never
spoke to
this
woman
or her husband by night and day since the last
General
Election.
Mr Bull - She says you did more than abuse
her.
Quinn - Well, I did not.
Martin Doherty was called for the
plaintiff. He
said
he was passing
by
the
scene of the row when Mrs Cryan called him to
witness
the affair.
He
only
heard Mr Quinn say he would not be walked upon.
Plaintiff said Mr Powell, of the bank,
witnessed
the
defendant's
conduct.
Richard Fairbanks was also called in
support of
Mrs
Cryan. He
thought
it
was
only an ordinary scolding match between the two
(laughter).
He
heard
Quinn
call plaintiff a rogue.
Plaintiff - On your oath did you hear me
answering
him? -
I did.
They
were
both abusing each other.
The cross-case was then gone into.
Quinn deposed that on the evening of the
18th -
the
nomination day
for
North
Roscommon - Mrs Cryan and Mary Doherty came out
and
abused him.
On the
morning
of that evening he was at the rent-office
complaining
that they
would
not allow a cart be brought to his door. She
said
--"the
big-headed
Orangeman
is landed" (laughter) and "priest-hunter."
Previous
to that
she
sent
her son, of something about five years, after him
to
call him the
same
thing.
Mr Bull - How do you know whether she did
or not?
Quinn - I saw her telling him. She is
trying to
corrupt
me and
break
my
vote
since the last General Election (a laugh).
Mrs Cryan - He has a gun in the place, and
he said
he
would blow my
brains
out.
Corporal Cryan then ascended the table.
Quinn - This man goes around the town with
his
pamphlets
trying to
induce
people to vote for ---
Mr Bull - Why would he not do that? He has
a
perfect
right to do
it.
Corporal Cryan, not being present at the
scene
which
gave rise to
the
summons
was not present.
Patrick Casey deposed to hearing Mr Quinn
say he
would
not be
tramped
upon.
He could not say that Mrs Cryan was speaking to
him.
Quinn - The object is - to get me bound to
the
peace,
the way I
would
be
disenfranchised
(laughter).
Mr Bull - Ah, that is nonsense. You both
seem to
have
been abusing
each
other.
So I dismiss the case. Go about your business
(laughter).
The other cases before the court were
adjourned
for
the attendance
of
solicitors.
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SATURDAY
APRIL
11 1891
THE
PROSECUTION OF THE DRUMSHAMBO ROWDIES IN CARRICK
On
last Friday a Crimes Act Court was held at
Carrick-on-Shannon
before Mr.
Paul,
R.M., and Capt. Preston, R.M., to dispose of the
charge
of riot against
Paddy
McManus, Corney McManus and John McManus of
Drumshanbo
and Robert J.
Cryan
and James McDermott, Jr. of Carrick, the
ringleaders
in the attack on
the
Nationalist meeting there on the 22ndFeb. last.
Mr.
Friery, solicitor, Dublin, appeared for John
McManus,
Mr. Slacke,
solicitor
for Paddy and Corny McManus and Mr. Bergin
for
Cryan and McDermott.
Mr.
Morphy, B.L., instructed by Mr. Croker, S.C.S.,
prosecuted.
The
prosecution
was practically a farce, the police
witnesses
called being the
men
who managed to see nothing on the occasion.
Sergeant
Danial O Mara of Carrick was the first
witness.
He saw Paddy McManus
coming
into town that day at the head of about 40 men
with
sticks. They were
joined
by about a 100 in Carrick, and paraded the town
carrying
a portrait of
Parnell.
They were cheering and above the din he heard
Paddy
McManus shouting
they
would put an end to Whiggery in Carrick. He saw
the
Ballinamore
contingent
coming, and the drumstick pulled from
one
of
them. Father Donohoe
led
the Mohill people, and he saw a conflict with
sticks
and stone throwing.
He
could not say were Paddy and John McManus there
then,
but he saw them go
towards
the direction of the conflict. There were
about
20 people on the
platform,
and Mr. Jasper Tully was amongst them. He
saw
Corny McManus
shouting
and groaning and winding a big stick over his
head,
and afterwards
chasing
a man into Mrs. Owen McDermotts. When Canon
Hoare
was speaking, some
one on
the platform said "Kitty O'Shea." Paddy McManus
shouted
" Not another
word"
and then in the din of the confusion set up
again.
He saw McDermott,
Cryan,
and the McManus's at the breaking up of the
platform,
and their
conduct
was bad. The priests then held the meeting in
the
chapel-yard, and
the Drumshambo
people brought down Parnell's banner,
and
placed it before the
chapel
door and commenced groaning, shouting and
whistling.
The Drumshambo
people
were not the only Parnellites.
Mr.
Bergin said the Carrick Parnellites could have
swept
the town if they
wished.
MR.
FRIERY: Did you consider the reterence to Mrs.
O'Shea
bythe seceders an
insult
to Mr. Parnell or his followers?
WITNESS:
Well, they took it as an insult.
Constable
Irwin proved that Robert Cryan was waving
his
hat and cheering for
Parnell
when Canon Hoare was trying to speak. There
was a
man named Hunt from
Boyle
very prominent there that day.
Constable
James Fitzgerald swore he saw the McManuss
do
nothing but cheer and shout. They cheered for
Parnell.
He saw an ordinary stick with Corny
McManus.
He did not see Cryan and McDermott do
anything
but cheer.
To Mr.
Paul I saw the Drumshanbo men strike the
people.
Constable
Robert Shaw disposed that he saw the
McManuss
take part in
scuffling
at the platform.
Constable
George Richardson, Drumshanbo, in his
evidence
mentioned that he
saw
the three McManus's, of Drumshanbo, assisting in
pulling
down the
platform.
To Mr.
Bergin---John McManus is a rate collector , and
he
gave us a seat. The defendants are all respectable.
Constable
David Noonan deposed that the man he saw
handling
Parnell's banner
and
carrying it with another in front of the chapel
door
was Pat Malone, of
Drumshambo.
Thomas
Egan, a Parnellite, from Attirory near Carrick,
was
next examined; He
got a
black eye that day.
Was it
through friendship you were struck?
- No
Is
your political opinion known in Carrick?
I
appeal to the Head Constable (great laughter)
Cross
examined by Mr. Bergin -I was on Mr. Parnells
side
that day. (laughter)
To Mr.
Slacke -I believe it was a McCarthyite who
struck
me.(laughter)
Owen
Hunt, Patrick Early, P.L.G., the Very Rev. Canon
J.
Hoare,P.P.V.F.,
Carrick-on-Shannon,
Rev. F. Donohoe, P.P., Mohill;
Jasper
Tully, Boyle; Dr.
Mulcahy,
Coroner, Ballinamore having been called as
Crown
witnesses.
The
Court adjourned until Saturday week.
Great
indignation is felt at the action of the
authorities
in endeavoring to
make
prosecutors of the Priests.
Father
Donohoe's letter in the National Press today
has
caused great
consternation
in official quarters, and a copy of this
paper
has been
impounded.
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11th
April 1891
EXPULSION
OF PARNELLITE ROWDIES
Mr.
J.Mulligan, Co. Secretary, said as the business
pertaining
to
championship
was concluded; he wished to say a few
words
concerning one of
their
brother members, and it was no other individual
than
the saintly
creature
Mr.R.J.Q.W.T.R. Cryan, (laughter) the
"honourable"
representative
of the
Carrick-on-Shannon team who had created so much
trouble and disunion
in the
country...the so called ringleader of the
recent
disgraceful scenes at
Carrick.
By his means their priests, whom they loved
so
well, had been
warranted
by Government authority because they would
not
appear before
Balfour's
court to proscute the rowdies of Carrick and
Drumshanbo.
They had
caused
the disturbance at Carrick meeting while
District-Inspector
Rogers let
Irishmen
spill one another's blood. It was sought to
put
the Priests and
their
flocks at variance. It was misguided men like
Cryan
who were
instrumental
in that.
Therefore,
he now proposed the expulsion of Cryan from
the
County Council,
because
by having him amongst them it would be casting
a slur
and disgrace on
them
as Gaels and Nationalists. He did not want to be
any
way bitter towards
a man
to express his opinions whether Parnellite or
Nationalist,
but they
could
not tolerate a man through whose rowdyism their
priests,
perhaps, may
be
before many days lodged in Balfour's dungeons.
Mr.
Peter Mcguire seconded the expulsion of Cryan.
CHAIRMAN: that is a resolution concerning politics,
and I
will not entertain
it, it
may cause disunion.
MR.MULLIGAN:
I beg your pardon, Mr. Chairman. You must
entertain
it. How
well politics were, entertained at our last
meeting,
and
there was no
objection
or disunion.
HAIRMAN:
Well, I was not chairman.
MR.MULLIGAN:
You should have attended. As long as the
chairman
has such
quibbling
I will resign and you can put Mr. Cryan in
my
place (no, no)
I will
never sit with a man like Cryan whose acts are
the
means of having the
men of
Mohill, perhaps, to part with their
priests
for
some time (murmurs)
The
meeting declared strongly against Cryan , and
Mr.
Mulligan left the
room
followed by everyman present except the chair and
the
Cloone
representative.
Mr. Mulligan's followers again
returned
to the room when Mr.
Michael
Murphy, P.L.G., Capt. Fenagh St.Cailins, was
moved to the chair.
Mr.
Mulligan again proposed the expulsion of Cryan
which
was seconded 'una
voce'
by eleven Nationalists and warmly endorsed by a
ringing
cheer from
hundreds
outside.
The
chairman Mr. Murphy, P.L.G., said he never had
greater
pleasure in
putting
a resolution to a meeting than the present
one.
The resolution was
carried
with great enthusiasm.
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The
Roscommon Herald, Boyle
Saturday,
Sept 21 1895
NOTICE
OFAPPLICATION TO QUARTER SESSIONS FOR
CERTIFICATE
FOR PUBLICAN'S
LICENSE
TAKE NOTICE
that it is my intention to apply at the
next
general Quarter
Sessions,
to be held at Boyle, in and for the Division
of
Boyle, and County
of
Roscommon, on the 18th day of October
next, for
amagistrate's
certificate
to
entitle me to receive a Confirmation of the license
to
sell Beer, Cider,
and
Spirits, by retail at my dwelling house,
situate
at
Bridge Street,
Boyle, in the parish of Boyle, Barony of Boyle and
County
of Roscommon.
Date
this 11th day of Sep. 1895, JOHN CRYAN
(applicant)
P.C.P
MacDermot, Solicitor for Applicant, Boyle
To
R.R. Fry,Esq., J.P;
Major
Murphy, J.P;
W.H.Robinson,
Esq.;
Clerk
of the Crown and Peace, Peace Office, Roscommon;
and to
C.H.
Rafter,Esq., D.I.,R.I.C., Boyle
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21
March 1891
NEWS
IN BRIEF:
Crimes
act summonses have been served on the
ringleaders
of the Drumshanbo
and
Carrick rowdies who broke up the Carrick meeting.
They
are charged with riot and unlawful assembly, and
the
defendants are
Paddy
McManus, Corny McManus, John McManus, James
McDermott,
Drumshanbo, and
Robert
J. P. Q. Cryan. Paddy McManus is a most
arrant
coward,
because when
he was in Kilmainham for a couple of months as a
suspect
, he signed the
most
humiliating conditions to get out. A
dose of the
plank-bed
was one of
the
things he never bargained for when he came out
cheering
the police and
attacking
the priests in Carrick. [...]
Date: Thu,
6 Sep 2001 11:32:00 +0100 (BST)
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22
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to Judy for the typing
16th February
1895
HE
FOUGHT AND RAN AWAY
JamesBeirne,
Kiltycreighton, summoned a young neighbor
named
Pat Cryan for
having
assaulted him on 1st inst.
Plaintiff
stated that he had been settling with the
defendant's
uncle about
the
service of cows, opposite Mr. Clarke's in the
Black
Lane, when the
defendant
approached them and said to the uncle "Have
nothing
to do with that man" whereupon he struck
plaintiff
on the forehead and ran away.
Owen
Shannon deposed to seeing the blow struck in the
manner
described by plaintiff.
DEFENDANT: Did you see my uncle go between us and
prevent
him striking me when he made the rush at me?
WITNESS:
I did not. I was standing between you both.
Michael
Horan stated he only heard Beirne say he was
struck
by Cryan.
Cryan
had across-case against Beirne for assault. He
stated
Beirne was only offering his uncle 7s 6d for
the
service, instead of 16s. He was insisting on the
uncle
taking the small amount. When he ( Cryan) asked
his
uncle to come home Beirne said,"What has he got to
do
with you?" and rushed at him with a stick, aiming a
blow
at him , and nearly pushing him through Mr.
Clarke's
window. His uncle said to Beirne that it was
a
shame to strike the little boy.
James
Cryan and Michael Tooman gave evidence as to
seeing
young Cryan get the shove.
John
O'Rourke was sworn but he could not throw any
light
on the matter.
The
bench fined Cryan 5s and costs, and dismissed the
cross-case
against
Beirne.
CRYAN: Only for I struck him that night there
was a
danger
of him killing
me,
because he is a fighting man (laughter)
MR.
BULL:You appear to be fighting man yourself (a
laugh)
Date: Thu,
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23
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to Ellen for the typing
>From BOYLE, Saturday, Sept 12, 1891
Headline
Ballinamore
Notes (Co Leitrim)
(From
our Correspondent)
EXCITING What will the Carrick-on-
SCENES Shannon rowdy, Parnellites
next
turn their hand to?
This
week they appeared in the role of
emergencymen. No more trusty fellows could
be
selected for this purpose (that two masons
named
Bob V.F.P.X.V.M.Z. Cryan, and
a
burly-looking fellow named Hayden, who
accompanied
him from Carrick. The latter's
Cristian
name is either James or John, but lest
I
should make an unintentional mistake
and
inflict unnecessary pain on any Carrick
person,
I will attempt a little personal
description
of this Hayden. He is tall and dark
complexioned
with a wild black moustache
and
lantern jaws and a prominent set of teeth
and
lips which bear evidence of frequent contact
with
porter. These worthy tools of rowdy
Paddy
McManus were on Monday engaged
near
Newtowngore - a village about three
miles
from here - in levelling an evicted
tenant's
house under the superintendence of
Cryan's
father. The people of the locality, who
were
already incensed against them for the
Carrick
infamy, soon made the district a veritable
frying
pan for them with the result that these
Carrick
Parnellite crowbar brigade men soon
flew. Surely Nemises is dogging the footsteps
of the
plotters and actors of the Carrick outrage!
Date: Thu,
6 Sep 2001 11:33:54 +0100 (BST)
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Dated
Saturday Oct. 1, 1892
ABUSIVE
LANGUAGE AND ASSAULT
Mr.
Michael Cryan, Boyle, summoned
Mrs
Quinn, wife of James Quinn,
carpenter,
Ross Lane, for having used
abusive
language towards him, and
also
for assaulting his child.
The
plaintiff, who gave his evidence
in a
clear and intelligent manner, stated
- At about five o'clock on Sunday
evening
my wife directed my attention
to the
defendant's scolding.
I asked
her what was the matter, and she
told
me that Quinn's wife had upset the
child. She was attempting a second
assault
on the child when I ran to its
assistance. Her children were giving us
great
trouble, so I went out to this
woman
and told her to control her children.
"Go long" said she, "you black
sweep; you lunatic."
Mrs
Quinn - I said you were like a lunatic.
Corporal
Cryan - There were witnesses
a
short distance off who heard this
woman. I said to my wife - "Don't
answer
this woman. I'll take her before
a
magistrate." Her expressions were
dreadful,
and I have respectable witnesses
to
prove same. I told her I would not
speak
to her, but that I would bring her
before
a magistrate. "Speaking to you,
you
black sweep," she said. "Go long,
you
lunatic."
Chairman
- Then you want me to bind this
woman
to keep the peace?
Mr.
Cryan - Well no. I want to get
along
quietly, as I have always done.
Chairman
- This is a case of abusive
language,
and is more for the Town Court
than
this one.
Mr.
Quinn here began to tell a story.
Chairman
- You must ask questions.
Mrs
Quinn (to Mr. Cryan) - Didn't your wife abuse me?
Mr.
Cryan - I cannot answer that question.
Defendant
then admitted the use of abusive language.
Mary
Grehan corroborated plaintiff's statement.
Chairman
- I suppose it was all about the children?
Mary
Grehan - Well it was. Mrs Quinn called
Mr. Cryan
a
sweep and a lunatic.
Mrs.
Quinn - I called him a lunatic because he looked
like
one
when he came out in his shirt sleeves.
James
Quinn - She did not say he was one.
She
said he was like one (laughter).
Chairman
- It was as near a thing as she could
say -
a distinction without a difference (renewed
laughter).
Mrs
Cryan was examined and stated that Mrs Quinn
struck
her child on the head, and then when she went
to
check her for it she called her a "ballad singer."
Mr
Quinn denied this statement.
Chairman
- I would recommend you to leave this man
and
his wife alone. This is a case of
riotous and
indecent
behaviour.
The
case was dismissed.
-----------------------------------------------------------------
Mr
Cryan had also a case against James Quinn.
Mr
Cryan - On yesterday evening my wife sent for me,
and
when I went to the house, I found her shaking.
Quinn
had been using very abusive language towards
her.
I said
to Quinn - " On the word of a man, or as a man,
should
you make use of such language to this woman?"
"Go
long you b-----r" he said "I would knock the head
off
you."
Mr
Cryan went on to state the nature of the abuse
towards
himself
and
his wife by Quinn, and during the giving of his
evidence
was f
requently
interrupted by Quinn, who was eventually
called
to order.
Mr
Cryan - The abuse was so much that I went to Mr
Gillespie,
C.P.S.,
and
got a warrant, which contained the evidence I am
after
giving.
I am
in dread of this man.
Chairman
- You are taking very strong measures.
Quinn
- It is a wonder a soldier like you would be
afraid
of me (laughter).
Mr
Cryan - If I met you in the discharge of a military
duty
you
would
know then, but (addressing the Bench) it would
not
become
me nor would it be wise of me, to have any
altercation
with
this man, as a civilian.
Quinn
denied the offence, and hurled at Mr Cryan
counter
charges
at random. He said he threatened to
strike
Cryan
when
he said he would put him and his wife out of that
place.
Mr
Cryan applied to make another statement.
Chairman
- Not now.
Mr
Cryan - Thank you.
Michael
Connor corroborated Mr Cryan's statement.
James
McGlynn also gave corroborative evidence, and
said
nothing could take place on the occasion without
his
knowledge.
Chairman
(to defendant) - I will put you under a rule
of
bail
to
keep the peace for twelve months, yourself in #10
and
two
securities in #5 each.
Quinn
- I think that according to the law he should be
bound
over, too.
Mr
Cryan - I did not make use of any abusive language
whatever.
Quinn
- I appeal to the police if ever I broke the
peace.
Chairman
- You appear to have lost your temper.
In the
cross against Mry Cryan the chairman said
-
" I refuse to put this man under a rule of bail."
Date: Thu,
6 Sep 2001 11:34:26 +0100 (BST)
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16
January 1892
DISPUTE
BETWEEN GOSSOONS.
Michael
Cryan summoned Michael Beirne
for
assaulting him on the road near the Kingsland post
office.
Beirne
had a cross case against Cryan.
Mr
MacDermot appeared for Beirne.
Cryan
deposed that he was coming from Kingsland post
office.
There
were three boys, Michael Cryan, John Morris,
Peter
Campbell on the road.
Beirne
asked him what was he listining to, and struck
him
with a stick.
He
went to Mrs Connaughton's to be washed and
Beirne
again followed him and cut his lip with a
thump.
To Mr
MacDermot - Myself and my brothers are not on
good
terms
with
the Beirnes. We were summoned for
trespassing on
their
lands.
I went
behind no hedge. I said to Beirne I
would
stand
on the road
as
long as I liked. There was no bad
language used by
me. I did
not
ask Beirne to fight me, because I would not be
able
for him.
I said
I would spend two shillings on him for a
summons.
John
Morris was sworn, and he denied that Beirne hit
Cryan.
Cryan
was hit in the bushes. He heard the
noise, and
thought
it was
a bird. When they went to look through
the
bushes,
Beirne told
Cryan
to kiss -----. Witness commenced to
gesticulate
with
his hands.
Capt.
McTernan - Keep your hands quiet.
Mr
MacDermot - He is not in the bush now.
Don't
mind those antics or declaiming.
Capt
McTernan - I will give Cryan leave to
cross-examine
this
witness, but he will not get much out of him.
Mr
MacDermot - And he is Cryan's witness.
Capt
McTernan - He is also your witness.
Morris
who is a young lad, again waved his hands.
Capt
McTernan - Keep your hands quiet. I
wonder
you
did not use them on the occasion.
After
hearing more evidence, Capt McTernan dismissed
the
case without prejudice.
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Date:
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Re: [Cryan et al.] Wexford Crane/Crean
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Ellen, I'm doing a
little follow-up on your earlier email (Aug. 6th).
It
sounds as though
you have quite a bit of information for the period
that is a
'dark ages' of
sorts for most of the researchers on the list, mainly
htat of
the eighteenth
century. Do I understand correctly that
your family,
now
Crean (or
descendants of Crean), were Crane back in 1690?
Do you have
any
story to share
regarding that? It's a source of
continuous interest to
me to
see the spelling
changes and overlaps ... Thanks -- (when
you get a
chance,
of course! Look how long it takes me!) - Leslie
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Date:
Thu, 6 Sep 2001 20:52:26 EDT
Subject:
[Cryan et al.] Last of the Name ... a
book to recommend
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No Creans et al.
in this book, but nonetheless an enlightening read:
The Last of the
Name
by Charles
McGlinchey, Brian Friel (Editor)
Hardcover - 119
pages (September 1, 1999)
J S Sanders &
Co; ISBN: 1879941457
Post WWII a school
teacher transcribed conversations he had with an
older
resident of the
village in which he taught. It's an
interesting
narrative
because of the
obvious import of oral narrative in this man's life. He
often
remembers tales
from his own grandfather's youth or peers.
The
transcriber's
touch is certainly
felt because their discussions are necessarily
organized
into chapters for
a book. If you want a feel for
mid-nineteenth
century
Irish country
life, this is your book. There are
glimpses of earlier
nineteenth century
life, too. Twentieth century history is
irrelevant.
Maybe for that reason
alone it's an educating experience to read!
Just
thought I'd share,
Leslie
Date:
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Hi
I went to
Roscommon recently with my cousin Lauri to
see if we could
find the gggrandfathers grave in
Eastersnow
cemetery. We talked to locals and bought
chalk to read the
faded old graves but to no avail. We
also called into
Fr Leonard, the Croghan parish
priest, to see if
there were any plot records (which
there weren't).
However on the way out of his house I
asked him about a
throne-like chair in his porch. He
said that it was
quite old and had come from a bishops
house locally.
Along the top of the wooden 'canopy' of
the the bishops
throne were carved the words'Cor
mundum crea in me
Deus' - the Crean family motto.....
caoimhghin
Date:
Fri, 07 Sep 2001 08:04:33 -0400
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[Cryan et al.] Thank you Caoimhghin!
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Hello Caoimhghin,
Just want to let
you know how much your efforts with the Roscommon
Herald are
appreciated!!
The Corporal
Michael Cryan in Roscommon Herald Articles No.24, Saturday
Oct. 1, 1892 is my
great-grandfather. You can imagine how delighted I
am to have this
glimpse into his personality.
I am going to be
in Dublin for the upcoming Genealogy Congress and was
wondering if you
would permit me to treat you to a meal, or if you
prefer a pint,
sometime during the week of September 17-22.
I'll also gladly
do some transcribing when I return home in early
October.Thanks
again.
Maureen McCourt
Nantista
Huntington, NY
Date:
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[Cryan et al.] Article No. 17 - my
family again
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The Cryans in Roscommon
Herald Articles No 17, Saturday July 27, 1895
are also my
family.
Seems there was
continuing bad blood between them and the Quinns.
Maureen McCourt
Nantista,
Huntington, NY
Date:
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Fascinating! I wonder if it could be from Bishop
Andrew Crean who
was the Diocese of Elphin Bishop in
the 1600's.
Sean
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Date:
Sun, 9 Sep 2001 21:01:13 +1000
Subject:
[Cryan et al.] Crean - Collooney, Co.
Sligo
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I am interested in
any information on the 'CREAN' family
from
Collooney.
My gg-grandfather
was George CREAN (or CRANE) born about 1785. My
grandfather
William CREAN born about 1860 who moved to Scotland and
changed the
spelling of his name to CRAIN so that it
wes pronounced
properly by the
Scots.
Other lines I am
following are William CREAN born 6 Aug 1899 and Thomas
CREAN born 1 Jul
1900 who went to USA in 1922 on the 'Laconia' and
Joseph CREAN born
4 Oct 1881 and Robert CREAN born 19 Jun 1883 who went to
USA in 1908 on the
'Cedric'. I have recently made contact with one of
Robert's
descendants.
Jim Crain
Date:
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http://www.emigrant.ie/pro/texts000/iepro251.txt
PROSPECTUS
ANNOUNCES ACQUISITION OF CRYAN CONSULTING
- Dublin-based
strategy consultancy firm Prospectus
has announced the
acquisition of Cryan Consulting, an
independent
consultancy
practice
serving clients in the Irish and US
technology
industry, founded
by
Mary Cryan in 1985. The combined operation
will have
projected
revenues in excess of IR3m in its next fiscal
year.
It will trade
under the Prospectus name, and its clients
will
include Baltimore
Technologies, Norkom Technologies,
Euristix,
Massana, Mysis,
WBT and
IFS. Ms Cryan, a former chairperson of the
Irish
Software
Association, will join the board of
Prospectus and
head up the
technology division of the enlarged firm.
Prospectus
Strategy
Consultants is Ireland's largest firm of
independent
business
strategy consultants. Established in 1991,
the
company serves
clients
across a range of sectors including
technology,
e-consulting,
financial services, health care and public
sectors.
See
http://www.prospectus.ie