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From: ljstandak@webtv.net (Lyle Staehnke) | Block Address | Add to Address Book

Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 20:40:42 -0700 (PDT)

Subject: RE:Danial Cryan

To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

I see quiet a few Danial Cryan`s showing up lately in our e-mails.

Seems

very possible that there would be a tie in with the Danial Cryan who is

my great grand father. Born in 1804 in Ireland, had three children

baptized in Boyle parish. John, Martin and margaret (wife Margaret

McDonagh) My grand dad stated his dad (Danial) was born in Sligo. One

the sons, John, Married Mary Christie In Glasgow Scotland, one of their

children was named Danial born 12-12-1863 in paisley. Danial (Senior)

came to Canada in about 1830. he had several more children and the

Danial name shows up often in his off spring.

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From: "FamSpack" < > | Block Address | Add to Address Book

To: "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>

Subject: Re: a response to my letters!

Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2001 09:56:36 +0100

Hi ,

If it is possible to glean a few dates I think that I can extend the

dynasty.

However with no dates I could be wildly out.

If it does coincide (I think that I have found families with the same

pattern of children and with the unusual (for a CRYAN) name of Susan.

I would like also to know where the originators of the information

found it.

Is it family lore or from a family bible or from parish registers.

It would be nice if they joined the group and then we can talk directly

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As I am off-line for a few days I will do more when I return and

hopefully,

if they give dates my stuff can be reinforced and I will be happy to

pass on

what I have.

Eve

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From: "FamSpack" < > | Block Address | Add to Address Book

To: "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>

Subject: Re: a response to my letters!

Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2001 09:56:36 +0100

Hi ,

If it is possible to glean a few dates I think that I can extend the

dynasty.

However with no dates I could be wildly out.

If it does coincide (I think that I have found families with the same

pattern of children and with the unusual (for a CRYAN) name of Susan.

I would like also to know where the originators of the information

found it.

Is it family lore or from a family bible or from parish registers.

It would be nice if they joined the group and then we can talk directly

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As I am off-line for a few days I will do more when I return and

hopefully,

if they give dates my stuff can be reinforced and I will be happy to

pass on

what I have.

Eve

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----- Original Message -----

From: "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>

To: <CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com>

Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 11:18 AM

Subject: a response to my letters!

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Can anyone add to this email I got today?

caoimhghin

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From: "Grainne & Dirk Springael"

<springael@compuserve.com>

To: <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>

Subject: Cryan Family

Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 20:45:13 +0100

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Hi Kevin,

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I received your note today on the Cryan Family

History, by co incidence I have here my fathers 'Frank

Cryan' and cousin 'Louis Dockery's' notes on our

family - Cryans

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Boyle Cryans are 2nd cousins of my grandfathers.

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I am Grainne Cryan, our family goes back as follows

Siblings: Frank (USA), Anne (Dublin) and Maria

(Galway)

Parents : Frank Cryan and Mary Forde(Galway)

Franks siblings : Peter, James (Fr Peter), John (Fr

Philip) and Maureen (Dublin)

Franks parents: Mary Begley (Glasgow) and Patrick

Cryan (carrowreagh) (both deceased)

Patricks parents: Peter Cryan & Sara (?Carney)

Patricks siblings: Susan, Jack, Fr Peter, Mary Ann,

Sister Peter and Frances

Peter Cryans parents:Nora Carney of Creevolan -

Elphine &

Peter Cryans siblings: Michael, Luke, Martin, Pat,

Sara, Anne, Bridget, Maggie, Kate, Winnie

Peters Cryans Childrens History :

Michael - died Young

Luke - died Young

Martin - Father of Martin, Willie, Josie (Clapp)

Gretta (Polian), Evelyn (Tansey) Baby (Dufficy/Conry)

Peter - Father Susan (Dockery), Paddy, Jack, Fr Peter,

Mary anne, Sister peter, Frances (died Young)

Pat - Father of Mai (Barrett), Niall (Kenny) Paddy,

Jack (on the hill), Sam & willie both went to South

America,

Sara - (Connellan mother of Pat)

Anne - (Keogh mother of Michael)

Bridget (Fitmaurice) mother of - son a teacher in

Cavan - who had 3 sons - 1 a chemist in Dulbin - also

a daughter a nun.

Maggie (Nolan)

Kate (Egan)

Winnie (Cummins)

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kevin hope this is of some use to you

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regards

Grainne and Frank(snr) Cryan

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Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 11:25:34 +0100 (BST)

From: Caoimhghin O Croidheain <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> | Block Address | Add to Address Book

Subject: Roscommon Herald 1888

To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Hi Just reposting this email in case anyone is

interested.

caoimhghin

Fri, 7 Apr 2000 12:07:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Caoimhghin O Croidheain <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> | Block address Subject: [CRYAN] Roscommon Herald 1888 To:

CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

The following are refs which might interest somebody.

I will try at some stage to get photocopies from the

microfilm and then if somebody is willing they could

be typed onto the list as some of these Cryan-related

stories are fascinating.(others are just mentions of

various Cryans)I will also be doing 1889 as I am trying to find info

regarding the new school in Croghan [1889] Already I

have found the ad for tenders for building the school!

My gggrandfather was the Master of the school.

Regards Caoimhghinps I didnt see any Creans or other variants. If I do I

will note them.....

Roscommon Herald 1888

Jan 14

Keash Branch of the Irish National League (BINL)

Treasurer- J.M. Cryan

Feb 11

Keash Branch of the Irish National League (BINL)

Treasurer- J.M. Cryan

Feb 18

Croghan BINL

Pat Cryan elected to committee

Feb 25

Croghan BINL

Pat Cryan

Mar 3

Subcommittee in Boyle

Daniel Cryan

Patrick Cryan

James Cryan

mentioned for old rent/ new judicial rent amounts

Birth of illegitimate child to Anne Cryan, inmate of

Boyle Workhouse for 11 years accuses Schoolmaster Mr

E.Conway of being father - long verbatim courtcase.

Keash BINL

J.M. Cryan called to take chair.

Mar 24

Drumlion BINL

Luke Cryan

Apr 7

"The Coercion Act Regime in Carrick"

Summons served upon Robert Cryan, Mason.

Keash BINL

Obit of Andrew Cryan (buried in Templevanny)

Croghan BINL

Pat Cryan

Apr 14

Boyle Board of Guardians

Verdict re: Anne Cryan

failed to prove her charge - Conway showed neglect of

duty.

Croghan BINL

Conway resigns from Boyle Workhouse.

Coercion Prosecutions Extraordinary evidence

Defendant Robert Cryan RE: INL procession

Long verbatim court report

Apr 21

Drumlion BINL

Luke Cryan

May 5

Croghan BINL

Pat Cryan

May 19

Croghan BINL

Pat Cryan

May 26

"Release of Mr. D. Cassidy C-ON-S."

Robert Cryan

"The Boyle Magistrates"

Constable Cryan

Jun 9

Drumlion BINL

Luke Cryan

Jun 30

"Great Nationalist Demo at Boyle"

Keash BINL - J. Cryan

Jul 7

Croghan BINL

Pat Cryan

Aug 4

"Sad Death of Young Carrick Man"

Obit of Pat Cryan - buried in Kiltoghert

Aug 11 + 25,Sep 8,Oct 27

Croghan BINL

Pat Cryan

Aug 18

Batty Cryan of Breedogue whacked Joseph Connolly for

stealing poteen whiskey

Boyle Petty Sessions

short verbatim report

0ct 27

Corrigeenroe BINL

Bryan Cryan

Nov 10

O'Kelly testimonial subs

James Cryan

P. Cryan

Dec 22

O'Kelly testimonial subs

Drumlion BINL

Peter Cryan

Pat Cryan

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From: springael@compuserve.com | Block Address | Add to Address Book

To: caoimhghin@yahoo.com

Subject: Re: Hi

Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 15:16:18 +0100

The details I gave you were from my fathers and cousins memories, I

dont

have dates, however our grand aunt Susan married Charlie Dockery if

thats of

any use. All I know is what I sent to you. Whats involved in joining

the

list ? I believe my 2nd cousin Louis Dockery of Dublin is the man with

the

information.

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regards

grainne

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----- Original Message -----

From: Caoimhghin O Croidheain <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>

To: <springael@compuserve.com>; <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>

Sent: 30 April 2001 10:31

Subject: Hi

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> Hi

> I posted your email to the Cryan-List and got the

> following response. Could you email me more detailed

> information or maybe you would consider joining the

> list and the researchers will be able to contribute to

> your information directly?

> regards

> caoimhghin

> Note: forwarded message attached. From: silvia.cryan@btinternet.com | Block Address | Add to Address Book

Reply-to: silvia.cryan@btinternet.com

To: caoimhghin@yahoo.com

Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 15:32:52 00100

Subject: Cryan studies, lists, and so and so

Hi, my name is Silvia Cryan, and I am from Argentina,

but now I'm living in London and in a few months I'll be

moving to North Wales.

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I was doing a search in Yahoo about Cryan, and I found

your string that caught my attention, since my

grandfather was born in Elfin, near Croghan, and my

cousins live in Carrick-on-Shannon.

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I was laughing so much at some of the 1888 and 1889

threads. My grandfather left Ireland when he was 19

and he never returned. Many years after his death my

dad went back and reunited with his cousins, Padraig

calling him "one of the lads" when he saw dad, the

resemblances were incredible!!!

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I would be really greatful if you could send me

interesting links to visit or things to research when I'm

over there in the summer (it only take £12 Ferry boat to

Dublin and 3 hours in a bus to get there!).

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And maybe we could be relatives as well, if you are a

Cryan. I don't look very Irish, I took after my mom but

think in an Irish way (many people tell me).

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Many thanks for your research and hope you will reply

soon!

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Silvia

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From: silvia.cryan@btinternet.com | Block Address | Add to Address Book

Reply-to: silvia.cryan@btinternet.com

To: caoimhghin@yahoo.com

Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 21:58:04 00100

Subject: Re: Hi!

Well, I couldn't help noticing that you are asking about

two of the brothers (Patrick and James) of whom you

don't have much information about.

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Are those the ones who used to live in Upper and Middle

Carroreagh?

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Or are you referring to other Cryans? Since James and

Patrick as soooo common in that area.

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Nice to keep in touch with you and for your very valuable

information.

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Silvia

Silvia Cryan

12 Kennedy Walk

Tisdall Place

London SE17 1QL

0207 701 5693

0777 618 2593

Email: sil@silviacryan.com

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Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 20:15:11 +0100 (BST)

From: caoimhghin@yahoo.com | Block Address | Add to Address Book

Subject: Lyle's information on Cryans 1

To: cryan-l@rootsweb.com

Lyle Staehnke

ljstandak@webtv.net

3533 N.E.149th

Portland, OR 97230

United States

http://members.tripod.com/~havana_2/index-2.html

MORE CRYAN INFO

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In searching for information concerning danial

cryan,I came accross a lot of people named

cryan that I can`t connect to my relation`s.So I

will list them and hope some one else can make use of

the info.

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One of the first person`s I contacted in

ONTARIO CANADA was STELLA CRYAN.She and her

family were very helpful in referring me to other`s

who were of the CRYAN clan.She referred me to

PATRICIA QUAIL and MAUREEN McGILLIS,(sisters)

descendant`s of BRIDGET CRYAN who had married JOHN

SAYERS.Both of these lady`s were very interested

in finding out more about our genealogy,and contri_

buted what they knew about it.

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I also contacted ANNE and HILDA CRYAN of

PICTON, ONT. CANADA.Both retired registered

nurse`s.They furnished me with lot of information

about DR.JOHN CRYAN and his son DR.JOSEPH HOWARD

CRYAN..The latter being ANNA and HILDA`S father.

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JOHN CRYAN was born in Northern IRELAND (1844)

and died in DEMORESTVILLE on OCT.2 1914.He had---

attended

college,and graduated from QUEEN`S COLLEGE In

KINGSTON ONT.He belonged to the PRESBYTERIAN church

in DEMORESTVILLE and was an active member for many

years. John married ELLEN SERENA MERKLEY (born in

WILLIAMSBURG ONT.--1852 and died MAR.31.1922-at

DEMORESTVILLE.They had four children,HENRIETTA,

NELLIE,ANNIE and JOSEPH HOWARD.

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JOSEPH HOWARD CRYAN also be came a Doctor,he

graduated from the same school his father attended.

(QUEEN`S UNIVERSITY)His dad in 1887 and JOSEPH in

1903...JOSEPH was born in Febuary--1879 and passed

away-JAN.20th 1957 at PRINCE EDWARD COUNTY HOSPITAL.

He married MYRA P. GARRISON in 1911.They had two

daughter`s,ANNE and HILDA.

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Both of these doctors were greatly respected in

their community.I read several news clipping`s about

them,

and they both were greatly missed on their death.

From what I understand they would be very proud of

their daughter`s and grand daughter`s ANNE and

HILDA.

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In the census of Morrisburg,Matilda twshp 1871

There is a John CROYNE (CRYAN) listed...

NAME AGE BORN REL OCCUPATION

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John Croyne 21 IRE. Church of teacher

SCOTLAND

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Below these CRYAN`s are mentioned in the 1881

census of Williamsburg,Matilda twshp.Dundas CO.

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NAME AGE BORN REL OCCUPATION

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John Cryan 36 IRE. Presbyt. teacher

Ellen 29 --- " wife

Henrietta 8 Can. " -----

George Anna 5 CAN. " -----

Joseph Howard 2 Can. " -----

Nellie 1 Can. " -----

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The above family is again mentioned in the 1891

census of Dundas County distrct 57--Of course ten

year`s older,but this time John Cryan`s occupation

is listed as DR.of Allopathic D.C.Physician and

Surgeon.....

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1881 census LANARK NORTH COUNTY PAKENHAM ONT.CAN.

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NAME RELA. AGE BORN. OCCUPATION

CRYAN

DENNIS HUSBAND 60 IRE. FARMER

BRIDGET WIFE 55 IRE. "

MICHAEL SON 29 ONT. "

FRANK SON 27 ONT. "

BRIDGET DAU. 24 " "

SARAH DAU. 18 " "

SUSAN DAU. 15 " "

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CRYAN

FRANCIS HUSBAND 76 IRE. FARMER

BRIDGET WIFE 66 IRE. "

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CRYAN

MICHAEL HUSBAND 61 IRE. FARMER

MARY WIFE 61 IRE. "

MARGARET DAU. 22 ONT. "

JANE DAU. 20 " SCHOOL-MARM

(BLURRED) SON 18 " HARNESS

MAKER

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CRYAN

CHARLES HUSBAND 30 ONT. FARMER

ANNIE WIFE 22 ONT. FARMER

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ELIZABETH CRYAN married PAT DOYLE 1-7 1849- at

ST.GREGORY MISSION at TORONTO CANADA.

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THOMAS CRYAN married MARY FLYNN 11-5-1832 in

TORONTO CANADA.

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The CRYAN name is mentioned in a book writen by

NORMAN LEE COOPER about the civil war.Writen in 1936.

Book # c787c. I found that in the LDS files...

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The following information I also got from the LDS

(LATER DAY SAINTS) files,voting records...

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HENRY CRYAN voted in 1810,at WYTHE COUNTY VIRGINIA

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The names below are some Cryan`s that voted in

1870,at JEFFERSON (UNION COUNTY) SOUTH DAKOTA..

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BRIDGET CRYAN

DANIAL "

MARTIN "

MARY "

PATRICK "

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SARAH CRYAN voted in MINNEAPOLIS MINNESOTA 2nd

WARD in 1870.....

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JOHN CRYAN voted in SUFFOLK CO. MASS. BOSTON`S

8th ward in 1850...

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PAtrick F.CRYAN born 1865 died 1939, buried in

NEWCASTLE NEBRASKA,was married to KATHERINE A.

DOUGHERTY,born in ILLINOIS (1870) died 1927...

They had three children.....

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MARIE CRYAN born 1891

PATRICK CRYAN born 1893

LUCY CRYAN born 1895

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ROSE CRYAN married JOHN KELMAN AT GLASGOW,

LANARK,SCOTLAND on 11-6-1852.....

ALEXANDER KELMAN, born 7-5-1853 at GORBALS,

LANARK,SCOTLAND..fa.JOHN KELMAN..ma.ROSE CRYAN

KELMAN....

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JACOBUM CRYAN,Christened 12-7-1840........

ANNAM CRYAN -, " 10-9-1841........

FATHER..MARCI_CRYAN

MOTHER..MARIA KEIGAN

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ANNA MAGDALENE CRYAN--CHRISTENED 9-20-1840 at MOUNT

ST.MARIE CATHOLIC,BRADFORD,YORKSHIRE,ENGLAND....

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NAME RELA. BORN WHERE

CRYAN

JOHN HUSBAND 1825 IRELAND

MARY WIFE 1835 IRELAND

TIMOTHY SON 9-28-1854-- BLOOMFIELD NJ.

THOMAS SON 1-15-1856-- " ESSEX CO.

MARGARET DAU. 12--2-1857 "

(spouse JOSEPH REYNAUD SR. 1-25-1856- " )

JOHN SON 9-10-1859 "

JAMES HENRY SON 1860 "

WILLIAM SON 1864 NEW JERSEY

JOSEPH SON 1866 "

PATRICK SON 1869 "

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A MARTIN CRYAN filed a letter of intent in SARGENT

COUNTY N.DAK. on 4-27-1893.He stated he was born in

ENGLAND in 1863,and he came to the USA through

DETROIT MICH. in April of 1880...

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A JOHN CRYAN GOT his citzenship papers in CASS

COUNTY N.DAK. 0n 6-4-1888..He had filed a letter of

intent in EUREKA COUNTY NEVADA on 10-12-1881...

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These CRYAN`S arrive on the Brig FOUNDLING,from

SLIGO BAY IRELAND 0n 6-30-1816,landing in NEW YORK.

There were 90 passengers..This info from a book

writen in 1980 by DONALD SCHLEGEL..

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JAMES CRYAN AUGHNASARE CO. IRELAND

MARY " ROSCOMMON CO. "

MICHAEL " " "

XCATHERINE " "

XMARY " "

XPATRICK " "

TIMOTHY " "

BRIDGET " "

MARTIN " "

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The ones with the X in front of the name were

children......

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In 1834 these CRYAN`S landed in NEW BRUNSWICK..

ST.JOHN

MARY CRYAN....13

MAURIAL CRYAN....12

MICH CRYAN....13