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From: "Michael Tobin"
<tobinmi@hotmail.com> | Block
address
To:
caoimhghin@yahoo.com, CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com, jsheerin@erols.com
Subject:
Re: [CRYAN] plea Date:
Sun, 21 Nov 1999 15:28:51 PST
A posting on the
Leitrim-Roscommon bulletin board (which Lyle had
posted to the
CRYAN-L list previously) includes the following reference to a
family in the
Boyle area:
3. Mary Ann CRYAN (1853)
? sp. James BRENNAN (1853)
It sounds like the
dates are approximately right for the people
referred to below.
The URL for the
above posting is
http://www.leitrim-roscommon.com/lrboard/messages/511.html
Reply-to: <> From: "Sue Williamson"
<suewilli@tpgi.com.au> | Block
address
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 14:02:09 +1100 Subject: [CRYAN] Cregan Family
To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
Hi,My name as you
can see is Sue Williamson. My mother's maiden name was
Cregan and her
great-grandfather came from
Miles Barton. He
travelled with his brother David and they went to the
Ballarat
Goldfields in Victoria Australia. Family folklore has David
latertravelling
onto the Colorado Goldfields although I have no records to
support this.
Their Father was James Cregan anf their Mother Ann Cregan
(nee McNulty). We
have no further information about his family in
Irelandother than
this. Some further information from
appreciated. Mum
and I are fairly new to this, but catching on really
quickly.Look
forward to hearing from other Cregan researchers.
Sue
Sue Williamson
17
Hepburn Vic
3461
email:
suewilli@tpgi.com.au
Ph: (03) 5348 3510
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999
17:56:26 -0500
From:
Elaine Matthews <raphael57@bellsouth.net> | Block address
Subject:
[CRYAN] obituary To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
Here's an obituary
that's in this week's Limerick Leader newspaper:
The death of
William Cregan, Churchtown, Newcastlewest and late of
Kiltanna,
Knockaderry occurred at St. Ita's Hospital, Newcastlewest. He
is regretted by
his wife Monica, son Michael, daughter Majella, brother
Tim, sister,
nephew, nieces, brothers-in-law, sisters-in-law, relatives
and friends.
Funeral Mass took place in Church of the Immaculate
Conception,
Newcastlewest and burial was in
From: ljstandak@webtv.net (Lyle
Staehnke) | Block address Date:
Wed, 24 Nov 1999 15:53:21 -0800 (PST) Subject: [CRYAN] RE:Cryan To:
CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
This is some
information I got from microfiche at the LDS FHS..
Roscommon.
Parents..James Cryan _ Atty Oconnor Born: 7 OCT. 1864
Female- Cryan (no
first name) Boyle-ballinfad Parish...
Parents.. Thomas Cryan/Mary Cryan Born: 28 Oct. 1865 Boyle Andrew
Cryan.
Parents.. Patritii Cryan/Catherinae McDonough--
Christined 8 july
1866--
Anna Cryan-breedogue and ballinameen parish.
Parents.. Marci Cryan/Mariae Keigan_ Christened 9 oct.
1841 Kilbride
Parish
parish.
Parents.. Thomas Cryan/Anne Dignan born: 22 may 1866
Anne Cryan..
castleplunket parish..
Parents.. Patt Cryan/Catherine McDermott--born 27 june
1866 Anne
Cryan--
ballinmeen parish..
Parents..Patt Cryan/Bridget Cryan-- born: 8 july 1866
Anne Cryan..
ballinafad parish.
Bernardum Cryan Married Anna Noone.. 16 feb. 1863
cootehall parish...
Bernardus Cryan christined 16 dec, 1876 breedogue and
ballinameen
parish..
Parents..Peter Cryan/Maria Foley --born:31 jan. 1865
--Bridget Cryan --
Boyle..
Parents. Michael Cryan/Ellen Brennan - born: 9 aug.
1866 Bridget
Cryan..
Boyle..
More latter....
Lyle
From: "John Sheerin"
<jsheerin@erols.com> | Block address To:
"Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Your 23 NOV [CRYAN]
plea email
Date: Fri,
26 Nov 1999 13:54:34 -0500
Thanks for you
email!I am somewhat confused by the name " Caoimhghin O
Croidheain"!!!
In addition, If I wanted to join the CRYAN-L
group or be on their
List, andget
involved, what do I have to do? How accurate is your information on both Mary
Ann Cryan and JamesBrennanin your email below?, and where did the information
come from?
Waiting to hear
from you, another Cryan researcher.Warm regards,
Jake Sheerin,
Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1999 12:28:16 -0800
(PST) From: Caoimhghin O Croidheain
<caoimhghin@yahoo.com> | Block
address Subject: Re: Your 23 NOV
[CRYAN] plea email
To:
CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
HiDelighted to
hear from you. Th Cryan-l is on the
Rootsweb.com site.
I will also post this letter to
Leslie who runs
cryan-l and she will be delighted to
help you on board
(another new subscriber!) You can
write to Michael
Tobin diorectly or through the
cryan-l. I hope
you join as there are many people
searching the
cryan surname involved
regards caoimhghin
From:
"Eddie" < > |
Block address Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1999 00:17:11 -0000
Subject: [CRYAN] Hi from Eve and Atty info To:
CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
Hi, I am back in
contact having lost the use of our computor completely
since the
beginning of November. However it has now been rebuilt, new
CPUfaster and more
storage, so we are a renewed spirit.
Please could
someone send to me the mail on the Cryan list that
appearedbetween 10
and 17 of November which we have lost completely - we
believebecause of
a problem at our ISP.
Atty is short for
Attracta 5th century saint whose feast day is 11
August."She
seems to have been a contemporary of St Patrick. She certainly was
arecluse, first at
Killaraght,on Louch Gara,and then at Drum, near Boyle
(both of these in
the Cryan heartland). Both places eventually grew
intonunneries,under
her direction. She is venerated throughout
Elsewhere I have
that the patron saint of Killaraght parish is St
Attracta.There is
also a well to which there were pilgrimages. And there are 7
wellsdedicated to
her in the whole of Achonry diocese.
Various spellings
appear in the parish registers and some have been
mis-transcribed
either into the register by someone writing
phoneticallywhat
they hear(not beeing familliar with the accent or the name) or out
ofit finding the
writing difficult to read. I have so far 4 Attractas who
married CRYAN men
on my card index.
Attracta (Atty)
McDONOGH m John CRYAN (yes) 14 March 1825 in Boyle RC
all 10 children
(which I presume you know) appear with their
christeningdates
in the Taunagh RC parish register ie Riverstown.
It is likely that
your Atty's surname was "fixed" to a different
spellingwhen she
entered the
Until again Eve
From: RoCryan@aol.com | Block address Date:
Sat, 4 Dec 1999 12:02:42 EST
Subject:
[CRYAN] Attracta To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
Eve, thanks for
the information on Attracta . I've been
told by my
spiritual advisor
that I have some incredibly strong female ancestors. Since
Atty's feast day
is close to my birthday I'll do some research on her (after
the holiday's)
and, perhaps, really have her in my corner.
Be well, Rosalie
Date: Sat, 04 Dec 1999 18:05:04 -0600 From:
Pam Burleson <pburleson@skyenet.net> | Block address Subject: [CRYAN] Atty To:
CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
Eve,Do you happen
to have the name of the 10 children of Attracta McDonogh
and John Cryan so
I can confirm?? I have Only 9 of the 10
of my Atty
and John. They are:
Wynafred abt 1828
Sarah abt 1832
Patrick abt 1834
Michael abt 1835
Mary abt 1839
Timothy abt 1841
Mark abt 1844
John
James abt 1846
This has been a
real break through for us, Thanks
ALOTPam Burleson
From: Fatarm@aol.com | Block address Date:
Sun, 5 Dec 1999 13:24:14 EST
Subject:
[CRYAN] Fwd: {not a subscriber} CREAN-new entry To:CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
but I didn't wan't
you all to miss this message while I figure out
what's wrong)
Old-Date: Tue, 30
Nov 1999 19:38:10 -0800 (PST)
From: Sean Crean
<sfcrean@yahoo.com>
To:
CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
To all:I have
enjoyed and appreciated all the work that has
come before. Today
I'll add my piece.
My father Patrick
Joseph Crean was born at 54 Chief
Street in
brick and coal
merchant. My grandfather, Joseph
Michael Crean and his wife Rose Crossan emigrated to
the
persecution in
Chief Electrician
for Macy's Department Store. Joseph
was the youngest
of seven children of Patrick Crean
and Elizabeth
Skeffington and was born on the Crumlin
Road. The family lived near the Ardoyne area and
attended
children were Mary
(Sister Mary Gertrude RSHM) b. 1871
d. 1904 in
later) b. approx
1874 d. 1913 in the
1881 d. 1967 (
d. 1932; Patrick
Dominic b. 1886 d. 1960; Michael
DESMOND (much more
on him later) b 1887 d 1950 and my
grandfather Joseph
Michael b. 1891 d 1957.
Ggrandfather
Patrick and his brother Michael were born
in
area. As young men
they moved to the booming city of
daughter of the
owners of the Belfast Telegraph, Mary
Ann Kane. They had ten children. James, Mary(Minnie),
Theresa (also a
Sister of RSHM), Bernard (who was
knighted in 1928),
Joseph, (who emigrated to So.
Africa) Michael,
John,
Their company was M&P Crean on 2
Belfast.In 1890,
Patrick received a patent (#16231) from
time on bricks by
36 hours. Michael died approx 1900.
Patrick died in
1918.
I believe through
your help that Patrick's parents
were Michael Crean
(spelled Creheen on the LDS) and
Mary Togher. These fit for the ages of Patrick and
Michael's births,
but the location is Drumcliff. If
anyone can give me
the location of Drumcliff to
Hazelwood(oral
tradition) it will let me know if I'm
on track.
My cousin Maureen
who is the daughter of Joseph of
South Africa lives
in New Zealand and is in her 80's.
She has been of
tremendous help. The internet and
email is
wonderful. DESMOND, actor, author, patriot
traced our history
back to the early Sligo Creans.
Unfortunately, his
work appears to be lost.
Sean Crean,
Freeport, Maine
From: Fatarm@aol.com | Block address Date:
Sun, 5 Dec 1999 13:43:56 EST
Subject:
[CRYAN] Admin To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
A quick reminder
and a warm welcome to the 19 newcomers since
mid-September!Please
only send email to Cryan-L from your subscribed email account.
Rootsweb mailing
lists are closed, meaning rootsweb will only recognize
and send on the
email address you used when you subscribed.
Contact me
directly for info
on how to change that address.
Email to the list
should always be addressed "Cryan-L@rootsweb.com",
even if you are a
"-D" subscriber. This way
everyone gets it. "-request"
is
only for
subscribing or unsubbing -- again, email me if you want more info
or need help.
For anyone wishing
to catch-up on missed emails, please visit
Caoimhghin's
website, where he has kindly posted our emails since the early days.
This is a lot
easier to use than the rootsweb search engine to retrieve old
emails. Just download and use your word processor to
search for your topics:
http://www.geocities.com/caoimhghin/
Happy holidays all
-- I'm enjoying all the emails! Leslie
Reply-to: "FamSpack" < > From: "FamSpack" < > | Block address Date: Sun, 5 Dec 1999 23:54:51 -0000
Subject: [CRYAN] Helpful info. To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
Hi all,
You will be
pleased to hear that more data has now been added to the
1901census at the
Leitrim and Roscommon website.
There are more
CRYANs in Boyle town and there are others that you may
nothave thought
about -
1. You can be very specific and enter any of the
search fields that
youknowor 2. more usefully you can just enter the
"Head of Household Surname"
boxleaving all the
other boxes empty. This will then give all the
informationon
people with that surname of householder
or 3. also very
useful, you can enter the surname in which you have
interestinto the
box labelled "Others enumerated in Household", leaving the
otherboxes empty
and this can result in giving people living away from
home,ororphans etc.
4. I have not
tried but if you just enter the name of the townland in
therelevant box
you should get all those living in the townland ie the
neighbours.....often
very useful.Good Luck , do try it.Eve
From: "Paul-McVey"
<Paul-McVey@email.msn.com> | Block
address To: "Caoimhghin O
Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> Subject:
Re: cryans Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1999
11:05:23 -0000
Hi, Kevin
Thanks for your
e-mail. I tried to find your web page
after I'd spoken
toyou on Saturday,
but for some reason, couldn't. I have
now, as you
willsee, and have
bookmarked it. I look forward to
receiving your letter
andwill send you a
copy of the photos I have of Robert Cryan's grave, once
Iget a set
developed. Unfortunately, they were
taken with a single use
camera in late
afternoon in December, so aren't of the best quality.
When Ifound the
grave (which I did very soon after looking, which was a
stroke ofluck) it
was to find that the inscription is very faint indeed. I
don'tknow what
type of stone was used - if it is in fact stone and not
concrete -but it
must be very soft, and in a very short time won't be readable.
Talk to you
soonRegardsPaul.
----- Original
Message -----
From: Caoimhghin O
Croidheain <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>
To:
<paul-mcvey@msn.com>
Sent: Monday,
December 06, 1999 1:04 PM
Subject: cryans
> Hi> I sent
you copy of Doc and foto of sons monument. I
> already had a
copy but didnt realise until Iwent back
> there on
Saturday. Could you send me fotocopy of Dr
> Cryans stone
as I couldent find it? I TOOK FOTOS OF
> THE DETAILS
on the stone and willsend copies as soon
> as I get
them.> my site is www.geocities.com/caoimhghin/
> send me an
email to confirm I have the right address
Ř
Caoimhghin
Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1999 13:31:25 PST From: Karen McElrath <K.McElrath@Queens-Belfast.AC.UK> | Block address Reply-to: K.McElrath@Queens-Belfast.AC.UK To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
Subject: Unidentified subject!
hello, cryan
researchers. i have posted a note to the cryan GENFORUM
and have posted
the same message here. i currently am
interested in learning
more about the
following:
1) my sligo roots.
i know that my great grandfather, martin francis
cryan, emigrated
to the US circa1858, at the age of 6. his brother, patrick cryan, and sister,
bridget
cryan, accompanied
him. theremay have been other siblings although i am not certain of names.
their
parents were
patrick andcatherine (or katherine) conlon cryan, from county sligo. there is
no
evidence that the
parents
emigrated to the
US. we are not certain whether they died during the
famine, or simply
remained in
ireland. the three
siblings resided initially in massachusetts, and in
fact, patrick
resided for some
time in wareham,
MA, served in the US civil war and later died in
somerset, MA.
bridget also
resided in
wareham. martin (my g grandfather), was "sent" to sharon, PA
to live with
relatives,about the time that patrick enlisted in the civil war. martin lived
the
remainder of his
life inpennsylvania. brother patrick had 2 sons, whose names we believe were
james cryan and
johncryan. each was born in wareham, and lived in boston, circa 1900. i am
searching for
theirdescendants.
i also am
searching for information about the parents of my emigrant
ancestors. the
parents' nameswere patrick and catherine conlon cryan. i know that they lived
in
county sligo, but
am not sure ofthe exact whereabouts.
2. before she
died, my elderly aunt recalled visiting cryan relatives
in swampscott,
massachusetts,circa, 1920s. she recalled a Mary Cryan from swampscott, and
another
male relative who
workedfor the GE plant there. I am searching for inforamtion about cryans
from swampscott.
3. in 1973, a
relative of mine, Father Edward O'Keefe, died in a car
accident in
Natick,Massachusetts. He was a retired priest. Attending the funeral were
Patrick and Mary
Cryan, ofBoston. I have been searching for information about these people.
Many thanks,Karen
McElrath
Reply-to: "FamSpack" < > From: "FamSpack" < > | Block address Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 10:05:12 -0000 Subject: [CRYAN] CRYAN/CONLAN
To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
Hi,I am sending
this to the list even though it is specifically for Karen.
As I think that I
have said before ,I do not have the records of the
familymembers that
you mention. However it would be helpful to know the ages
ofPatrick and
Bridget, the siblings of your MartinFrancis which would
help toapproach
this research in another way.
1. You say
MartinFrancis was 6 in 1858 ,thus he could be born about
1852.
2. If he was the
youngest then the oldest his mother could be was 46
ish, So his mother could not be born before
about 1806.
3. Similarly, if
he were the oldest, his mother would be about 18/19 an
soborn about 1832/33
4. Thus we have a
range of dates between which a Catherine Conlan could
havebeen born.
5. I have about 20
Catherine Conlans born between these dates, the
majoritychristened
in Taunagh RC parish - Riverstown Co Sligo, with a couple in
Aghanagh , and a
couple in Boyle ,which served the border region of CoSligo.
6. However you say
that you are not sure whether the parents were
CatherineConlan
and Patrick Cryan. What is it that you are not sure of. I
presumeCRYAN goes
without saying. Are you sure of the Catherine and Patrick
names ?If so then
the names Catherine and Patrick can be looked at in the same
wayas points 1,2,
and 3 above (though for a man the dates are not ruled by
nature !) but at
least one can narrow the search down.
I do have some
Patrick CRYAN marriages and I do have some (? CRYAN
/Catherine ?)
marriages .And I have some incomplete
families with 2
out ofthe 3
children. But then there is much work to do.
Karen if you do
have more information, which could help do let me know
and Iwill see what
I can do.Eve
Date:
Wed, 15 Dec 1999 12:08:33 -0800 (PST)
From: Caoimhghin O
Croidheain <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>
| Block address Subject: [CRYAN] website To:
CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
HiI have
redesigned my site and some new links for
anyone
interested...
http://www.geocities.com/caoimhghin/
regards,caoimhghin
Reply-to: <ariley@ltp.org> From:
"A. Riley" <ariley@ltp.org> | Block address
Date:
Wed, 15 Dec 1999 17:00:01 -0600 Subject: [CRYAN] [CRYAN-L] Our ancestor Atty (long)
To:
CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
Dear CRYAN friends
and relatives,
My first cousin
once removed, Pam Burleson, and I are delighted to show
theCryan-L list
the information we've gathered about our ancestor,
AttractaMcDonough
Crain. Eve of this list was a terrific help to us -- with the
information she
gave us we were able to break through some brick walls.
Pam and I have
never met in person -- her mother might remember me as a
little kid, and I
clearly remember Pam's grandmother. Pam and I met
on-line -- I had
put a little query on one of the many Internet sites
ofIrish names and
genealogy, and Pam answered! She had a lot of
information,and I
had a little, and with Eve's data, we got a lot further than
either ofus could
have alone.
Anyway, here's the
story of our ancestor, Atty Crain.
Atty was
baptized:Aracte MCDONOUGH c 4 July 1804 in Aghanagh RC parish
parents Timothy
MCDONOUGH and Aracte WALSH
Atty was married:Attracta
(Atty) McDONOGH m John CRYAN 14 March 1825 in Boyle RC
Atty and John's
kids were baptized:
Brigid 26 May 1826 Taunagh RC
Winifred 19 Dec 1827 ''
Sarah 21 June 1829 ''
Patrick 26 June
1831 ''
Michael 11 Nov
1832 ''
Mary 31 Aug 1834 ''
Anne 10 Oct 1837 ''
John 1 April 1839 ''
Mark 4 Aug 1844 ''
James 11 July 1846 ''
Aghanagh, Boyle,
and Taunagh parishes are all near each other, between
thetowns of Boyle
in County Roscommon and Riverstown in County Sligo.
We'veheard the
family lived in the townland of Drumraine, County Sligo,
whichI've seen on
a map on the website of the Gleean National School, also
in
theneighborhood.Atty's husband John, who had worked in a bank, died of
heatstroke while
working on a road
in 1848, during the Famine. That road was probably a
public works
project.Atty took the kids to America soon after that. In 1850, the census
taker
inLeominster, Massachusetts, listed them. We've heard that she ran a
boardinghouse there.
Atty M. Crane F
48 Ireland
Wyna Crane F
22 Ireland
Sarah Crane M
18 Ireland
Patrick Crane M
16 Ireland laborer
Michael Crane M
15 Ireland laborer school
Mary Crane F
14 Ireland school
Timothy Crane M
8 Ireland school
Mark Crane M
6 Ireland school
John Crane M
11 Ireland school
James Crane M
4 Ireland
Atty's oldest son
Patrick came west to Eldorado, Wisconsin, near Fond
Du Lac, in about
1855. At least a couple of his siblings, Mark and John,
camewith him. Atty
came too, but we don't yet know when that was. We've
seen aplat map of
the township in 1862 -- and there's Pat's 40 acres! The
countryaround
there is fine rich farm land, and I bet Pat thought his 40-acre
parcel was a
kingdom. (We've seen hints and bits of other people named
Cranewho arrived
in that neighborhood earlier -- maybe in-laws of Atty?)
Patrick married Bridget
Murray in Eldorado. They had 11 kids: John,
Atty,James, Sadie,
Kathleen, Edward, Mary Elizabeth, Mark, William, and
TimothyMichael
(born in 1877 -- he eventually became my grandfather), and one
morechild who we
think died young.
Atty lived long
enough to see most, if not all, of Pat's kids, and to
seeher son Mark
become the town clerk. She died in Eldorado in 1880, and
hereis her
gravestone.
Atty, wife of John
Crain
Born in LeCarrow,
Sligo County, Ireland 1805
Died Jan 20 1880
May her soul rest
in peace.
Rest, dear Mother,
rest
Thy weary toil is
done
We mourn thy loss,
but hope to meet
where parting is
--------(unreadable)
We still have some
questions yet to find the answers to, for instance,
aboutAtty's
husband, John Cryan -- all we know about him is that he married
Atty,fathered a
crowd of kids, and died. We'd also like to know how Atty and
thekids got to
America -- there couldn't have been a lot of spare money
aroundto buy
tickets. And then why did they settle in Leominster, of all
places --it's forty
miles from Boston. Somewhere on the web I've seen another
storyof someone
from Aghanagh who emigrated to Leominster -- but much later.
Andthen how did
Pat and his brothers get out west, and why did they choose
Eldorado?But all
the mysteries in our histories is what makes this all so
interesting.A.
Riley
a proud descendant
of Atty Crain
ariley@ltp.org
From:
"John Sheerin" <jsheerin@erols.com> | Block address Date:
Wed, 15 Dec 1999 22:18:34 -0500 Subject: [CRYAN] (CRYAN) CRYAN/BRENNAN To:
CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
I am trying this
again with additional information:
Searching for more
family data on my G/Grandparents:
Mary J? Cryan,
born circa 1850 in Lower Deerpark, Boyle.
Dad was Michael
Cryan. Mary married my G/Grandfather,
James F? Brennan,
(born circa 1850, Deerpark and Boyle areas) at St.
Joseph's RC in
Boyle on 07 FEB 1870.
James' Dad was
John Brennan. Mary came to Lowell, Mass
and died in May
1927and is buried
in the Brennan grave plot at St. Patrick's Cemetery in
Lowell.I am
looking for more information on Mary Cryans family, parents,
grandparents
siblings, etc.Have a good Christmas Season and thanks for all you help.
Jake
Sheerin,Annapolis MD
Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 21:11:04 PST From: Karen McElrath <K.McElrath@Queens-Belfast.AC.UK> | Block address Reply-to:
K.McElrath@Queens-Belfast.AC.UK
Subject: Re: [CRYAN] CRYAN/CONLAN To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
Many thanks, Eve,
for your posting. Martin Francis Cryan
was born 25
December 1852 in
County Sligo, and yes, he was 6 years old when he emigrated
with his siblings,
Patrick and Bridget. Brother Patrick
Cryan was born in 1844
in County Sligo (I
believe in the month of March of that year).
I know less
about their sister
Bridget, having only recently learned of her first name. I do know a
bit about
Bridget's descendants in the United States:
She married Patrick
Feeney, lived in
Wareham, Massachusetts, and had at least one child, Mary A. Cryan.
I am nearly
certain that the parents' names of the 3 siblings (Martin,
Patrick, and
Bridget), were Patrick and Catherine (or Katherine) Conlon Cryan; the
parents' names
appeared on a death and a marriage certificate.
From sons Martin
and Patrick's
birth years, it seems that their mother, Catherine Conlon
Cryan was born
sometime between 1806 and 1826 or so, and I suppose a marriage between
Patrick Cryan and
Catherine Conlon might have occurred anytime between 1824 and
1844. Not much to go on…Regardless, I've made note
of your information with
regards to places
of christenings for Catherine Conlons.
No doubt that
information might
prove very useful to me in the future.
I will be in the
US for one month, beginning on 20 December.
I will
post again after
that date. Enjoy your holidays!Karen
Reply-to: "FamSpack" < > From: "FamSpack" < > | Block address Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 13:36:17 -0000 Subject: [CRYAN] Re:CRYAN/BRENNAN
To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
The best that I
can offer ,although there is no guarantee that these
areyour ancestors
are the following
Mary CRYAN chr 26
March 1843 Boyle RC
parents Michael
CRYAN and Rosa KENNY(or it could be any name that looks
orsounds like
this) so I also have
James CRYAN chr 30
July 1845 Boyle RC
parents Michael
CRYAN and Rosa HEANY(this is the only Rosa in the PR)
Rosa KEANY chr 1
June 1806 Taunagh RC ie Riverstown
parents
Bartholemew KEANY and Bridget CONLAN
also James BRENNAN
chr 7 Jan 1841 Boyle RC
parents John
BRENNAN and Catherine CARROLL
James BRENNAN chr
26 Aug 1845 Boyle RC
parents John
BRENAN and Bridget MULHERN
James BRENNAN chr
15 June 1845 Roscommon and Kilteevan RC(neighbouring
parish)parents
John BRENNAN and Mary DIFFELY
One way to at
least reject those that are not possible is to look at
thefamily
nameswhich often recur from generation to generation. Often the
parents names are
given to the children ie they may skip a generation.
Insome families
there are lots of Michaels ,in some Thomas.... these two
inparticular do
not often occur together. There are also not many
Williams
orTimothys or Andrew s with the CRYAN surname
etc That looking at the
complete picture
may help identify which are the more likely to followup.
Hope that this
helps Eve
Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 09:08:37 -0800
(PST) From: Caoimhghin O Croidheain
<caoimhghin@yahoo.com> | Block
addressSubject: [CRYAN] happy xmas
To:
CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
hi Leslie
Thanks for your
kind comments on my site.
I was thinking as
we enter the third year of the
mailing list it
would be a good idea to publicise it
throug different
outlets. For example a mail shot to
the Cryans etc in
ones area, country or city. Irish
Roots said they
would mention my site in their next
issue.It would be
great to double the amount of subscribers
for example by
next June?!?!happy xmas to allcaoimhghin
From: TimNascar@aol.com | Block address Date:
Fri, 24 Dec 1999 14:31:19 EST
Subject:
Irish Phrase To: caoimhghin@yahoo.com
Can you tell me what
the following phrase means, not sure of the
spelling but it's
one of the two:
ta na nog
ta ra rog
I noticed this
while in Raleigh, NC...it's the name of an Irish Pub.
Timaka:
timnascar@aol.comTPLESS69, 69 Cuda Conv. 340Monroe, NC
Turn Left and Go
Fast......This is NASCAR Country!
From: Fatarm@aol.com | Block address Date:
Fri, 24 Dec 1999 22:06:42 EST
Subject:
Re: happy xmas To: caoimhghin@yahoo.com
Good ideas. I've found some cousins I'd never met before
on other
family branches by
sending letters -- after the holidays I'll write something
up and send it to
the list, and ask what success others have had.
Merry Christmas
and Happy New Year, Leslie
From:
Voltene@aol.com | Block
address Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 19:47:18 EST
Subject:
[CRYAN] CRYAN Obits in Lowell, MA
To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
Hello to the list
and Happy New Year!
Last year I posted the following list of
Cryans buried in
cemeteries in
Lowell, MA. Since there are a
number of new subscribers to the Cryan list, I
wanted to repost
it. I have obituaries for each of these CRYANS.
Not all resided in Lowell, and many of
the obits mention
survivors in
different cities and states. If
anyone would like me to e-mail any to you, please give me
the name and date
of death.
CRYAN
Alexander T, age
75, died 27 Mar. 1956
Anna G.
(O'Reilly), a. 50, died 3 Apr. 1936
Annie, Miss, a.
47, died 11 Nov. 1922
Annie, a. 88, died
20 Nov. 1962, res. Medford, MA
Annie J.
(McGuane), a. 92, died 19 Nov. 1972, d. in Jamaica Plain,MA
Ann (Mulhearn), a.
62, died 29 June 1916, widow of Thomas
Bridget T., Miss,
a. 80, died 3 Jan. 1949
Bridget (Foley) a.
73, died 17 Dec. 1921, widow of Michael
Bridget, Miss., a.
75, died 14 Jan. 1948
Bridget,
(Leighton) a.70, died 19 Nov. 1912, wife of Timothy
Delia
(Bridget)(Sullivan) a. 79, died 23 June 1954, widow of Thomas E.
Edward J., a. 83,
died 20 May 1945,
Hannah, Miss, a.
56, died 16 Aug. 1920
Harriet V.
(Tyrrell), a. 79, died 29 Apr. 1954, widow of John
Irene H.
(Harrington), a. 68, died 21 Mar. 1975
James, a. 55, died
25 Jan. 1939, res. New York City, NY
James Charles, a.
35, died 20 Oct 1909, husband of Mary(Conway)
James Joseph, a.
27, died 17 Nov. 1908
James, a. 56, died
17 Dec. 1920
James P. a. 65,
died 26 June 1966,
James U., a. 81,
died 29 Jan. 1990,
John J., a. 59,
died Nov. 1954
John J., a. 74,
died abt 2 Feb. 1975
John P., a. 64,
died 4 Feb. 1939, widower of Anna(O'Reilly)
John P., a. 65,
died 25 Jan 1940 husband of Harriett(Tyrrell)
Julia M.
(Fitzgerald), a. 60, died 3 June 1925, wife of Thomas
Katherine, a. 12,
died 26 Mar 1918
Leo C., a. (?),
died 1 Feb. (?), husand of Delima (Laline)
Madeline T., Miss,
a. 84, died 19 Dec. 1992
Margaret A.
(Murray), a. 68, died 11 Feb. 1934
Margaret J., Miss,
a. 82, died 10 Sept. 1959
Margaret
A.(Moloney) a. 82. died 24 Apr. 1947, widow of Martin C.
M. Annie, Miss, a.
75, died 13 Aug. 1943,
Mary Louise
(Boisvert), a. 35, died 10 Dec. 1928
Mary, Miss, a. 56,
died 19 Feb. 1925
Mary, a. 73, died
31 July 1902, widow of Michael
Mary (Conway),
a.49, 13 Sept. 1924, widow of James C.
Mary, Miss, a. 95,
died 21 Sept 1983
Mary E., Miss, a.
25, died 2 Feb. 1920
Martin C., a. 61,
died 27 Mar. 1936 husband of Margaret
A.(Moloney)
Michael ., a. 28,
died 6 May 1911
Michael, a. 50,
died 8 June 1899
Nellie, a. 2 yrs,5
mos., died 25 Aug. 1907, dau. of Thomas and Bridget
Nellie, Miss, a.
58, died 27 Sept. 1939
Nora, Miss, a. 52,
died 3 Sept. 1938
Robert W., a. 29,
died abt. 25 June 1956, in Boston, noobit.
Rosemary, a. 12,
died 2 Nov. 1935
Sarah B.(McMahon)
a.71, died 13 July 1911, widow of James
Sarah A. (Igo), a.
29, died 16 Jan. 1905, wife of John
Thomas E.,Jr, a.
52, died 21 May 1952.
Thomas, a. 65, died
14 Apr. 1910
Thomas W., a. (?),
died 7 Jan. 1949
Thomas E., a. 62,
died 15 Sept. 1934
Thomas, a. 74,
died 25 Mar. 1937
Timothy J., a. 52,
died 4 May 1970, res. Fitchburg, MA
J. Vincent, a. 8
yrs.,7 mos., died 22 Apr. 1923, son of John & Harriett
Karen
MurphyNashua, NH
P.S. Wanted to
thank Kevin Cryan for posting the Cryan
List e-mails onhis
great website.I
lost my computer hard drive and all my files including the above
list. I was able to copy the obit list again from
his site and much more.Definitely check
out :
http://www.geocities.com/caoimhghin/
From:
PFinnis@aol.com | Block
address Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 21:25:35 EST
Subject:
Cemetery site To: WALSH-L@rootsweb.com
Hi Listers:Got
this site from the GENCLASS listing and thought I would share it
with you guys
too.Happy hunting for 2000...
<A
HREF="http://www.interment.net/">Cemetery Records Online -
Cemeteries and
Genealogy</A> http://www.interment.net
Patti in
NJSearching WALSH, BURKE, LAVELLE, KAVANAUGH,
GALLAGHER, HOGAN AND
SCANLON and JUDGE
SCRANTON, PA
From: Fatarm@aol.com | Block address Date:
Sat, 8 Jan 2000 16:24:02 EST
Subject:
[CRYAN] Cregan To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
The following was
recently posted at: <A
HREF="http://www.familyhistory.com/messages/showmsg.asp?id=646645">FamilyHisto
ry.com - Message
Boards</A>
http://www.familyhistory.com/messages/showmsg.asp?id=646645
I'm trying to
contact the researcher presently, but I thought you
Cregan researchers
might be interested right away ...
Subject: Cregan
Family Tree
Posted by: Daniel
Patrick Cregan
Message: I am new
to tracing family history. I am 4th generation Cregan
in the US; great
grandfather --Michael Edward Cregan -- arrived from
Ireland in 1880 - 1895
and settled in the NYC area where most of the relations
lived. Any
available info on NYC Cregan's would be appreciated. There were
other relations
that I have limited information on. You can contact me via
E-Mail.Thank you
From:
RuthK3834@aol.com | Block
address Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 18:52:17 EST
Subject:
[CRYAN] Reply to Daniel Patrick Cregan To:
CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
I have no e-mail
address for Mr. Cregan, but I have been researching
the Cregan's for a
long time. My grandmother was a Cregan
and she had a
brother named
Michael who settled in NY at the time mentioned. There were 10
children in the
family and I have much information on the Cregans. I
have even found
some living cousins in Ireland. I would
like very much to
communicate with
Mr. Cregan. Ruth RuthK3834@aol.com
From:
SCK32160@aol.com | Block
address Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 17:54:10 EST
Subject:
[CRYAN] The Surname Crean
To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
HelloI am seeking
info on my GG Grandmother Catherine Crean from Townalatha
Sligo. She married my GG Grandfather William Farris
from Culleens on Jan 25
1866 in Kilglass
Chapel. Any info on her DOB-Parents or
siblings would be
great. I have
looked and found nothing? Thanks, Chris Kennedy USA
Reply-to: "FamSpack" < > From: "FamSpack" < > | Block address Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 11:11:32 -0000 Subject: [CRYAN] Re The Surname
CREAN/FARRIS To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
Hi Everyone, but
in particular Chris Kennedy,
The only record
that I can find is a child of William and Catherine but
thattells us other
things that may help with your search but I will go into
those
later.........You may already have this ....
Honor FARRIS born 25 Jan 1870 in Easky Co Sligo
parents William
FARRIS and Catherine CREAN
(from the Civil
Registration for Ireland)
Easky and Kilglass
are at the NE extremity of Co Sligo in Kilalla RC
DioceseEasky
parish records start in 1864 and Kilglass in 1825 so there should
bemore available
on a film of the parish records which you should be able
toborrow through
the LDS Family History Centre.
More details of
the film numbers and what else is available for the
area canbe
obtained from the LDS website which has a catalogue section
http://ww.familysearch.com
There are other
FARRIS'...spelled that way....who are producing
children atthe
same time as the above who may be William's siblings, but if you
havenot done so
already and if there is one, I would look at the parish
recordfilm....it
is usuallyin the original writing and is sometimes difficult
toread or it is
faded...happy hunting there.
Here are the other
FARRIS parents producing children around 1870
Charles FARRIS
born 11 March 1868 in Easky Co Sligo
parents Charles
FARRIS and Anne HANLY (Civil Registration)
Thomas FARRIS born
10 May 1870 in Easky Co Sligo
parents Charles
FARRIS and Anne HANLY (Civil Registration)
I hope that this
Is helpful...Good Luck...Eve
Reply-to: "FamSpack" < > From:
"FamSpack" <
> | Block address Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 11:20:59 -0000 Subject: [CRYAN] Apology,CREAN info and correct
website address To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
Hi All, Sorry
about the incorrect info about Family Search ..it seems
to bemy
day.However somehow I was guided to this reply that I gave to a query back
inJune which may
be of interest to Chris Kennedy especially.
Eve again