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From: cdobie@superaje.com (Charles Dobie) Date: Wed, Jun
10, 1998, 12:19am
(PDT+3) To: ljstandak@webtv.net (Lyle Staehnke)
Subject: Cryan in
OCFA 6 Lyle, Here are the CRYAN entries in OCFA 6:
"CRYAN","-","Holy
Angels Roman Catholic, St
Thomas","
Freeman","Avondale,
18)","Perth","Downie","PH-288-X","C650"
"CRYAN","Charles J.","Holy
Angels Roman
Catholic, St
Thomas","Elgin","Yarmouth","EL-535","C650"
"CRYAN","Charles
L.","Holy Angels Roman Catholic, St
Thomas","Elgin","Yarmouth","EL-535","C650"
"CRYAN","Delia S.","Holy
Angels Roman
Catholic, St
Thomas","Elgin","Yarmouth","EL-535","C650"
"CRYAN","Emerson
S.","Holy Angels Roman Catholic, St
Thomas","
P.","Avondale,
Stratford (Range 18)","Perth","Downie","PH-288-X","C650"
"CRYAN","Nellie
Kelterborn","Avondale,
18)","Perth","Downie","PH-288-X","C650"
"CRYAN","Wilfred C.","Avondale,
aresome use to
you. Cheers,
Charlie Dobie, cdobie@superaje.com
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Letter C (Part 4)
Record numbers 10515 thru 11768 Copyright © Jim W.
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FEEFHS, 1996 Latest Update: 29 April 1996 This Web-Base
is a finding aid
to the compiled voter registration data in Jim W.
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Cryan, Thomas......39 in 1872......born inIreland......11335
1871 census,
misspelled should
be Danial instead of David Cryan.... [New Search /
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Comment interpréter les résultats et obtenir des copies] Result for
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clé
"cryan" File/Fichier //Dundas/Dundas_06 line 152: CRYAN DAVID 68
IRELAND RC IRISH F
071 A 2 23 04 File/Fichier //Ontario/Ontario_15 line
62: CRYAN MICHAEL
JAMES 2 RC 049 E 2 D 51 line 63: CRYAN THOMAS 32 O RC
IRISH CARPENTER
049 E 2 40 51 File/Fichier //Perth/Perth_13 line 82:
CRYAN BERNARD 59
IRELAND RC IRISH F 030 B 1 1 55 line 83: CRYAN ELLEN 1
1 45 IRELAND RC
IRISH SERVANT 030 C 4 40 55 line 84: CRYAN JOHN 35
ENGLAND RC IRISH F
030 B 1 4 55 Summary for query "cryan"/ Sommaire de
la recherche effectuée à partir du mot clé "cryan": found 6
matches in 3
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M1478, 4+, 2-, 2xGerry MURPHYNeptuneM1488, 4+ Eunan
DOLANNeptuneM
1378, 4+ Nicole RYANCommercial-Anna Liffey-Workmen's
W13.4+, 2-Niall
O'TOOLECommercialM12.2x, 1x, L1x Willie RYANGardaM
1268,4+, 2-, 2x
Frances CRYANCarrick-on-Shannon W11.1xCathy BUCHANANQueen's
Ladies'-
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Specials' for
Breakfast, Lunch & Evening Dinner (A La' Carte) OPEN 7
DAYS 8 till LATE *
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and Sunday Nights.
* GUARANTEED A FRIENDLY STAY * .......at Cryan's
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Record numbers 10515 thru 11768 Copyright © Jim W.
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is a finding aid
to the compiled voter registration data in Jim W.
Faulkinbury's
"Foreign-Born Voters of
compilation also
contains information regarding the naturalization of
these voters;
namely the date, place and court of record where the
naturalization
took place. A sample page has been scanned to show what
aGreat Register
page looks like(this is a 107K JPEG scan). For details
onhow to obtain
this additional information, please see How Do I Obtain
More Information.
For details about this collection, please see
Foreign-Born
Voters of
of a number of
files that comprises a total of 61,691 records extracted
by Jim W.
Faulkinbury, C.G.R.S. from the county level Great Registers
ofVoters for
and initially
posted as 29 files in late March 1996. The FBVCA Index
provides current
information about the status of this project. If you
selected this file
in error, return to the Full Text [search engine]
Index of this
FEEFHS Web Site now. Surname, Given Name....Age in
Registration
Year...Birth Location...Record Cryan, Thomas......39 in
1872......born in
andindex-3.html
Lyle
From: "Linda Carrier"
<carrier@massed.net> | Block address Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 17:06:15
-0400 Subject: [CRYAN] CREAN To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
I am researching a
line of Creans which come from Co. Kerry.
Specifically
1913in
traveled tothe US
in 1929 at the age of 16. She settled in
story wasthat she
came to this country alone. I've since found out that she
livedwith her
mother Bridget Crean here in
fromrecords here
in 1937 I suspect she returned to
alsolived with an
Anne Crean while here. . I know very little about my
grandmother's
family as she refused to speak about the old country.
Ifanyone has any
information on this line or a Crean line from the area
I'dlove to hear
from you.Happy Hunting!Linda Carrier
Reply-to:
"Family History" < > From: "Family History" < >
| Block address To: "Caoimhghin O Croidheain"
<caoimhghin@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: hi! Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 11:14:03
+0100 Organization: Family Spackman
Hi Caoimhghin,I
will try to answer your points in order -
Charles Cryan:I am
sorry not to have visited the GRO in
backin March.
Apart from all the other things that I do I have been
clearing
up,painting and selling my mother's place,so time has been rather short.
Coincidentally we
are planning to go up to
soput your mind at
rest I will do what I can.To write for a death certificate one needs either the
volume and pagenumberfrom the index and then one can write to the Office of
National
Statisticsin
Southport(I'll find the proper address) or the place and then one
canwrite to the
local registrar and you do not need the index number.
Localregistrars
are much less over loaded than
heardthat short
staff and increased demand for services had led to delays of
upto 6 weeks
whereas in March I received my certificates in about 5 - 6
days.The problem
about Charles is that as yet we do not know either the
place orthe index
number, so we have to look in the index volumes..
I will do my best
next week (probably Thursday) and let you know.
John Cryan
enumerator/ census checker.
Do you have access
to a Mormon FHC ? Because if so,you could look at
thephotographs of
the original returns of the 1901 census.
Everything I have
extracted so far is now publicly available on the
Leitrim/Roscommon
web site.The next group of data is of Boyle town, it
isnot ready
yet.However if I remember correctly the first film that I
viewedhad to be
abandoned half way through and returned to the central depot
because I had had
it too long and the next film had arrived. So I
decided tofinish
the second film and then go back to finish the first. So if I
havenot yet
reached your family I am sorry The Leitrim/Roscommon web site
ishttp://www.thecore.com/let_ros
I have just
checked my files to find that the earlier film was
abandoned inthe
middle of Croghan townland. The FHC had problems with staff at the
timeand was closed
for a period so I hadto make a decision. I will get back
toit but each film
is very long and has taken me much longer than the 20
hoursestimated,
probably double.But then the estimate may be for a shorter
lengthof film.
About the parents
of
I gave a couple of
suggestions as to the parents but we need a bit more
information. Do
you know his age when he died ? This is not always
accuratebut it
could narrow the possibilities.
We may find him in
the census in which case we may know more and can
make aselection .
If he is about 66 in 1901 then it more likely that his
mother isMary
Harrington, and then I can give you more about them.
I said that there
were a great many John Cryans but I have been very
VERYsuprised that
there have been so few Cryans on my films of the 1901
census.I f you
look at the map on the Let-Ros site you will see how much of
thecounty has been
completed and how much is in process, something of the
orderof 50,000
individuals, say 10,000 households and of those so far only
about17 are Cryan
!!! So out of these there are not many John Cryans , and I
amalmost sure that
the enumerator must be your John (an ideal job just
afterretirement
for a well known and prominent , reliable member of the
community)I am
sure we will find him when we get there but he may have retired
and notbe living
in the schoolhouse......do you have any clues as to address ?
doyou have the
death certificate which will give an address?
When I get to him
I will photocopy the entry and send it to you.
Now I hope that
you do not mind if I ask something for me -
I understand that
you live just outside
National Registry
or to the National Archives?
In particular I
would love to know more about the John Cryan mentioned
inthe Convict
Transportation records of those sent to Australia.There are
onlytwo Cryan
records but I suspect they refer to the same person and fit
withthe
possibility ,age etc of my elusive gggrandfather. I have found from
other sources that
the ship The London went to
yetwritten to the
Tasmanian Archives because the record number/document
numberonly refers
to
ggrandfather John
and his brother Daniel would be about 4 at the time.
Perhaps the
records will give the wife and family of the convict.
The document
references/numbers areTR 8,p 142 and CRF1850misc2(2)
I am sure other
Cryan have been tantalised by the references and if
nothingelse be
pleased to cross a criminal off or out of their connections.until again,Eve
Reply-to:
"Family History" < > From: "Family History" < >
| Block address To: "Caoimhghin O Croidheain"
<caoimhghin@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: hi! Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 10:30:41
+0100 Organization: Family Spackman
Hi Caoimhghain,
I selected the families as being likely candidates for
the honour of
beingyour John's parents because his first two
children were named
Mary(Jane) andJohn and the practice was to name the
first boy and girl after the
father'sparents. These families then had a John that
could be of the same age
asyour John.These are extracted from the Parish
registers. I agree that the John
,son ofMary
couldclear this up but we will have to see - I only
have one child for that
family.But John ,son of Mary HARRINGTON is highly
likely, so I have given the
otherchildren of the family. I do not have the
marriage date. (cont)
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CRYNE, Joanes Christening
Sex: Male
Christening
Date: 20 Oct 1824 Recorded in: Roman Catholic, Boyle,
Father: Joanes
CRYNE
Mother: Maria
CLARK
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
CRIAN, Patritium Christening
Sex: Male
Christening
Date: 20 Feb 1833 Recorded in: Roman Catholic, Boyle,
Father: Johanis
CRIAN
Mother: Mariae
HARRINGTON
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
CRYAN, Johannem Christening
Sex: Male
Christening
Date: 29 Mar 1835 Recorded in: Roman Catholic, Boyle,
Father:
Johannis CRYAN
Mother: Mariae
HARRINGTON
-----------------------------------
CRYAN, Thomas Christening
Sex: Male
Christening
Date: 16 Jun 1839 Recorded in: Roman Catholic, Boyle,
Father: Joannis
CRYAN
Mother: Mariae
HARRINGTON
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
CRYAN, Martinus Christening
Sex: Male
Christening
Date: 25 Nov 1840 Recorded in: Roman Catholic, Boyle,
Father:
Johannis CRYAN
Mother: Mariae
HARRINGTON
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
CRYAN, Jacobum Christening
Sex: Male
Christening
Date: 10 May 1846 Recorded in: Roman Catholic, Boyle,
Father:
Johannis CRYAN
Mother: Mariae
HARRINGTON
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
CRINE, Bridget Christening
Sex: Female
Christening
Date: 28 Jan 1854 Recorded in: Roman Catholic, Boyle,
Father: John
CRINE
Mother: Mary
HARRINGTON
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
CRIAN, Johanem Christening
Sex: Male
Christening
Date: 24 Jun 1833 Recorded in: Roman Catholic, Boyle,
Father: Johanis
CRIAN
Mother:
Catharinae DRURY
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
CRYAN, Jacobus Christening
Sex: Male
Christening
Date: 20 Nov 1842 Recorded in: Roman Catholic, Boyle,
Father:
Johannis CRYAN
Mother:
Catherinae DRURY
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
I also have the marriage of a John CRYAN and Catherine
DRURY/MCDRURY
asdated 1829 in Croghan but I did not write down the
source and just at
themoment can not find it again . Though I have looked
through the lists
thatyou sent to the CRYAN maillist - Mary Creasers
extracts fron Croghan
parishregister, and all my parish register stuff, and
my extracts from the
IGI. Itis unusual that I did not write down the source
especially as there is
ayear and place.
I may have
collected this information from you, if you have ever posted
it.But I shall
keep looking.
-------------------------
About John Cryan
teacher of Croghan. You say that you have "a death
abstract" ,
Is this a certificate? It does not sound like one.
If you do not have
a certificate, I will look in the Irish death
indexes -already
had it . Fortunately I had extracted up to 1907. No John Cryan
was registered in
1906 and only one in the whole of 1907.So that must be
your John - here
it is.
1907 1st quarter John CRYAN in Carrick on
So it looks as
though he died about Christmas time and was registered
justafter the New
Year.
If you could get
the certificate from the National Registry it should
givehis age , his
address, cause of death and who registered the death,
usuallya family
member present at the time, and ,quite helpfully, where he was
whenhe
died,perhaps in hospital or at home or elsewhere. You will need the
number which I
think means volume 3 page 43 if you go to the National
Registry. (I you
go/write to the local registrar it is not usually
needed.)If you
already have this information, just ignore the above.
I do hope that
this is helpful.Until again Eve
Reply-to: "Family History" < >
From: "Family History" < > |
Block address
Subject: Re: [CRYAN] CREAN Date: Mon, 20 Sep
1999 10:51:57 +0100
Organization: Family Spackman To:
CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
Hi Linda,I hope
that this is helpful.
Here are two
possibilities who would be about 40 when your Catherine
wasborn.If you
look in the films of the Irish BMD Register Indexes for years
aroundthis date
you may find others registered in Castle Gregory who could be
ofone of these two
families.
-----------------------------------------------------------------
CREAN, Patrick
Birth
Sex: Male
Birth Date: 14 Dec 1869 Birthplace: Castle
Gregory, Kerry, Ire
Recorded in: Civil Registration for
Father: John CREAN
Mother: Catharine CURRANE
Source: FHL Number 101199
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
CREAN, Patrick
Birth
Sex: Male
Birth Date: 18 Mar 1868 Birthplace:
Castlegregory, Kerry, Ire
Recorded in: Civil Registration for
Father: Michael CREAN
Mother: Honoria ROHAN
Source: FHL Number 101164
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Eve
From: Fatarm@aol.com
| Block address Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 11:09:33 EDT
Subject: [CRYAN] Crogan/Croghan mid-18thc.
reference To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
I found an 18th c.
timeline on the web with reference to a
Crogan/Croghan
trading post c. 1744-52 in
I'm not certain if there is a town today
called "Cuyahoga" (pronounced
"kie-a-hoe-ga").
I thought the time period, nonetheless interesting.
The timeline is
interesting in and of itself, for anyone interested in the
French and Indian
wars of this time period in
http://digitalhistory.org/timeline.htm
or <A
HREF="http://digitalhistory.org/timeline.htm">Timeline
of the 18th century</A>
Please also
welcome four (4!) new subscribers this week and be on the
lookout for their
introduction postings ....-Leslie
From:
VaDonohue@aol.com | Block address Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 11:19:59 EDT
Subject: [CRYAN] New To List-CRYAN Roll Call
To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
Hi, I am new to
this list as of last night. I would like to share my connection to the CRYANs.
If anyone should connect to this line, Iwould love to hear from you.
John CRYAN b.
1834, m. Julia NOLAN, d. 12-04-1900 in
Their daughter:
Ellen A. CRYAN b, 1874 in Ida, MI, m. John T. DONOHUE,
d. 12-25-1953 in
Cincinnati, OH.
Their son: Robert
Francis DONOHUE b. 1899 in Toledo, OH, m. Georgia B.
BOYER in 1944 in
Chicago, IL, d.1930 in Chicago, IL. They had 2 children.
Thanks,Marita
From: Fatarm@aol.com | Block address Date:
Mon, 20 Sep 1999 14:14:06 EDT
Subject: [CRYAN] Cryan Family B&B in Nova
Scotia website To:
CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com Add Addresses
Found this B&B
website for an Inn run by the Cryan Family:
http://www.valleyweb.com/victoriasinn/
or: <A
HREF="http://www.innbook.com/victoriainn.html">VICTORIA'S
HISTORIC INN -
Wolfville, NS - (Bed & Breakfast Country Inn)</A>
Date: Wed, 22 Sep
1999 09:31:45 -0700 (PDT) From: civics@geocities.com | Block address Subject:
Welcome to Yahoo! GeoCities
Hi
caoimhghin!Welcome to Yahoo! GeoCities.The URL (address) for your home page is:
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atlantis/5447/
or try this easy
to remember shortcut:
http://www.geocities.com/caoimhghin/
From: "Linda
Carrier" <carrier@massed.net> | Block address Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999
22:59:07 -0400 Subject: [CRYAN] Aunascaul To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
Hey great news.
Grandma's petition for naturalization came in the mail
today. She is
listed as being from Ballytarmin Aunascaul, Ireland.
Anybodyworking on
Crean's in this area?Happy Hunting!Linda Carrier
Reply-to:
"Family History" < > From: "Family History" < >
| Block address To: "Caoimhghin O Croidheain"
<caoimhghin@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [CRYAN] Charles Cryan Date: Fri, 24
Sep 1999 09:20:14 +0100 Organization: Family SpackmanHi Caoimhghin,I went to
the FHC at Myddleton Place in London to inquire about the
death ofCharles
Cryan only to find that the indexes still have not come in . On
enquiry at the
desk found that they are not due untilNovember/December, so
I gave a long
appealing explanation and explained that it was such an
unusual name that
it should not be difficult to find. Well, several
assistants became
involved and they tried to telephone the office of
National
Statistics, but could not get through. So I have to do that
anotherday......I
will let you know the outcome.Otherwise it it wait until
Nov/Decand I will
go then.
I had a look at
your website with special interest as we have been
involvedwith
building websites and have long debates on presentation.
Here in England we
have to pay for every second of access to the
internet,unlike
the USA where one does not pay for local calls. So I feel that I
cannot waste time
on sites where either the writing is difficult to read
or thelayout is
tiring on the eyes, or even the colours are inappropriate.
Thismeans short
paragraphs, gaps in the typescript and headings which all
breakup the visual
impact into manageable sections. This is not a criticism,
justa principle by
which we work.
I was everso
pleased to see that you do not have any fancy gimmicks and
thatyour links
were grouped....what a waste of time scrolling up and down
iswhen all you
want at any one time is not on the screan at the same
time.Well, good
luck with all your projects, I hope that you have time for a
social life
!!!!!!I will let you know what happens about Charles Cryan.
Until again Eve,
sorry I wanted to write more but am in an awful hurry.
From: Voltene@aol.com | Block address Date:
Sun, 26 Sep 1999 10:25:12 EDT
Subject:
[CRYAN] Another Michael CRYAN in Lowell, MA To:
CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
Hello, Found
another Michael Cryan and family in Lowell, MA. after 1860.
Haven't been able to connect him to Martin and
Michael Cryan, yet.
According to his 1876 Naturalization,
he was born in Co.
Sligo,
Ireland about 25 September 1826 and arrived in Boston, MA about
twentieth of
October 1859. (have passenger arrival
mainfest-arrived 28 Oct
1859) One of his witnesses on the
naturalization was a Thomas
Cryan. Haven't connected him yet. There was a Thomas Cryan, fireman, listed
in the 1879-1880
Lowell city directories.
Michael Cryan enlisted
10 Sept 1862 in Co. D 25th Reg. ME.
Date discharged 11 July 1863.
-----
1880 Federal
Census, Lowell, MA Roll 544,ED 449,
155 Market St.
Cryan, Michael
age...52, born...Ireland, occ...variety store
Mary age...52,
born...Ireland,
occ...housekeeping
Thomas age...20,
born...England, occ...carriage
painting
Edward age...17,
born...MA, occ...apprentice card
clotting(???)
Mary A age...14,
born...MA, occ...at school
--------
Lowell Daily
Courier
Wed. 12 Apr. 1882
Fatal Railroad
Accident
Michael Cryan, who lived with his
family at 155 Market
street, was run over by a car or cars on the Boston and Lowell road, between
7:30 and 8 o'clock
last evening, about 250 feet southerly of the switch
tower below the
Chelmsford street bridge, and received
injuries of which he
died at St. John's hospital less than two hours
later. His left arm was
crushed, his left
leg was broken, and his skull was severely fractured.
Mr. Cryan went to Boston Monday with his
wife and sister-in-law, to
attend the funeral
of his father. His wife proposed to
stop in Boston till
tonight, as her
sister was to start from there today for the west.
Mr. Michael Horan
of Market street, who went to the funeral, saw Cryan at
five o'clock
yesterday afternoon in Boston, and the two agreed to return
home by seven
o'clock train from that place last evening.
When Mr. Horan got
to the depot in
Boston he could not find Cryan, and thinks that he had already
boarded the train,
which was a long one. He thinks that as
the train
neared the
Middlesex street depot, Cryan got out upon the platform and fell
under the
cars. The body was first seen by a
brakeman, named Goodhue, a
short time after
the accident occurred. Cryan was 55
years of age and kept a
variety store at
155 Market street. He was a soldier in
the 26th
Massachusetts
regiment during the war. Deceased was a
temperate man,
and was highly
esteemed by many acquaintances. He leave
a widow, two sons
and a daughter.
-----
According to his death record, his
parents were Patrick and Ann.
I looked for the
death record of Patrick Cryan in Boston.
Found none.
Only name I found
that might be the right one was a
Patrick CRANE , widower, died 9 April 1882 in Boston.,
age...92,
born...Ireland, parents...Edward and Ann.
------------
When I originally came across this
Michael, I thought he
might be related
somehow to Roger Cryan and Judy Bruce's
Martin and Michael
Cryan (also the same Cryan family I am
researching) because he owned a
variety store on
Market street, Lowell. Around 1885,
listed in the Lowell
city directories
was a Cryan Bros.(Martin and Michael),
variety store at
189 Market
St. But I haven't made the connection.
Anyone with Lowell
Cryan families recognize this Cryan?Karen MurphyNashua, NH
From: Fatarm@aol.com | Block address Date:
Mon, 27 Sep 1999 13:26:20 EDT
Subject:
[CRYAN] Michael Cryan, age 20? in 1812 record To:
CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
Pulled this off
Ancestry.com for those of you interested in finding the
18th c. Cryans:
* * * * * * * * *
* * * * * *
Cryan Michl. Sailor Lt. W. 1812
(Ervis) is
recorded in this entry; it is likely the former place of
residence. The
number 20 is also recorded; it it possible that this is
his age. List of
settlers and servants engaged for the Hudson's Bay Company
and Lord Selkirk,
1812. Transcribed from (film of) original documents held
in the collection
of the National Archives of Canada [Ottawa]: Thomas Douglas,
5th Earl of
Selkirk, MG 19 E1, vol. 2, page 560, reel C-1
Anyone claim him
for sure? Let us know .... Leslie
Reply-to: "Family History" <
> From: "Family History" <
> | Block address Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 13:27:44 +0100
Organization: Family Spackman Subject: [CRYAN] Michael Cryan at Lowell
I could be that
you have two different Michaels here - Michael born
about 25Sept 1826
who went into the 25 th could well be
the Michael killed ion
therailroad aged
55 in 1882 ie born between 12 April 1826 and 12 April
1827(newspaper
report), which could be the son of Patrick Cryan and Anne
Cawleyof
Riversown, Co Sligo who have children at about that time Patrick in
1812and Alice
1819.
However the census
1880 gives Michael aged 52 ie born 1828-9
I wonder if the
1880 census gives Michael Cryan as living at 155 Market
Street similarly
in the newspaper report of 1882, yet in 1885 the city
directory gives
189 Market Street whether there are other possibilities
which could be
checked.
1 They could have moved from one building
to another between 1882
and1885 - perhaps
there are records of changes of tenancy etc
2 However I think that it is more possible
that the street was
renumbered as the
town grew and plots and gardens were in-filled .
Peoplehave found
records of this here in England so perhaps Lowell has some.
Theremay be old
maps with ther numbers on them in the archives or library .
I will keep
looking - - - - - somewhere I have a record of a Michael
Cryanwith a crowd
of daughters in your area but not Lowell.Godd luck Eve
From: "Kathleen Grone"
<kmgrone@hotmail.com> | Block
address To: caoimhghin@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Fwd: [CRYAN] new website Date:
Wed, 29 Sep 1999 06:44:08 PDT
Greetings,My name is
Kathleen O'Donnell-Grone I really enjoyed your web site. You
have a lot of
great information. I am searching for the family listed below.
Isabelle Creen was
my grandmother. Rufus is thought to have been half
German although I
can find nothing to substantiate this. Creen is a very Irish
name and he
married Irish. On my O'Donnell side we go to County Donegal but
also have not gone
much farther. My Family came over in the "coffin" ships
during the famine
and 4 out of 5 children died. An aunt survived as did my
great-great
grandparents and my great grandfather was born in NY. Other
names I am also
researching are Mary Dineen born about 1840 in Limerick
who was married to
my great-great grandfather James O'Donnell. I have a
picture of her.
Mary Harrigan married to my great grandfather James J.
O'Donnell may have
been born in Ireland or NY. Lester A. O'Donnell my grandfather
married Isabelle
Creen. She was a beauty!
Descendants of
Rufus Joseph Creen Jr.
1
Rufus Joseph Creen b: Abt. 1880
d: Abt. 1940 New York
. +Charlotte "Lottie"
KERNER b: November 27, 1886
Brooklyn, New York
d:
March 13, 1959 New
York
... 2
Jessica CREEN
... 2
Joseph CREEN
... 2
Isabelle CREEN b: October 5, 1905
Brooklyn, New York d: October
1,
1938 Catskills,
New York
....... +Lester Aloyisius O'DONNELL b: August 30, 1908 Brooklyn, New
York d: March 2, 1992 Yonkers, New York
... 2
Rufus Joseph CREEN, Jr. b: December 15, 1908 New York d:
January 1985
Riverhead, New York
From: Fatarm@aol.com | Block address Date:
Wed, 29 Sep 1999 13:02:06 EDT
Subject:
[CRYAN] Fwd: Croghan To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
Hi:My wife is
searching for ancestors in Roscommon County Ireland. We have
visited there and
will return in June 2000 with other family members.
Her mother's
surname was Croughan. Her grandfather was Ulysess Samuel
Alonzo Croughan
(USA Croughan- born 8/14/1877), son of Michael Crougan
(born County
Roscommon, Ireland-2/19/1840), married to Elizabeth
Laughlin (born
3/26/48). Michael was the son of James Croughan (born
County Roscommon,
Ireland- 1818) and Elenor Kelly (born Palm Sunday,
1820)
The surname
Croughan is listed as Croghan in the Fourmilehouse Parish
(formerly known as
Kilbride Parish) Records in Roscommon County. From
the County
Roscommon Heritage and Genealogy Center, we have found that
James and Elenor
Croughan (Croghan) had 5 children:
Mary-baptised
3/10/1839
Michael-baptised
2/11/1841
Patrick-baptised 10/1/43
John-baptised
3/5/1846
Peter-baptised
6/26/1848
We would be
interested to know if there are any descendants of Mary,
Patrick, John or
Peter alive. As I noted my wife is the great
grand-daughter of
Michael Crougan and Elizabeth Lauglin and thus the
great-great-grand-daughter
of James Croughan and Elenor Kelly.Thanks for any info
Dan (McCormick)
Sitarz.
Reply-to: "Grahame Rendell"
<rendell@eircom.net> From: "Grahame Rendell"
<rendell@eircom.net> | Block
address To: <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>
Subject: County Roscommon Family History
Society Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 20:44:05
+0100
Hi,Thanks for your
note, we have changed address and our new addresses are
asbelow, We are
sorry that you have had problems contacting us and wehopethat you will visit
our new web site, on which we give furtherinformationon the society and
Roscommon families.
If you require any
further help please contact me direct on the e-mailbelowand i will try to
assist you,
hope this is of
some help,Grahame Rendell.Researcher,County Roscommon Family History Society
rendell@eircom.net
Web site :
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/7030/
From:
"Roger Cryan" <cryan@avana.net> | Block address Date:
Wed, 29 Sep 1999 21:01:38 -0400 Subject: [CRYAN] Re: Mike Cryans in Lowell To:
CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
The Michael Cryan
who was in business with his brother Martin (my
great-grandfather)
had no uncle named Michael Cryan, according to the
likely family sent
me by Eve some time ago. Below is that line again; sometimes we need to see
this stuff a fewtimesbefore it fits.
Roger
---------
From: Roger Cryan
and Regina Pana-Cryan <cryan@avana.net>To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
Subject: [CRYAN-L]
Recycling old mail - stirring up the pot?Date: Monday, March 22, 1999 10:24 PM
I was looking over
my older messages, and as I spent some time with
thisgem, I wasn't
sure that I ever pointed out that I've got the marriage
record for James
Cryan and Honor Beirne. They don't show
up in the
Boylerecords
because they were married in the (mostly) Sligo parish of
Kilfreeand
Killaragt on February 8, 1853. Their
witnesses were one Patrick
Cryanand one
Wilhelmina Gainly.
Also, I saw that
Karen didn't have the names and dates for all of James
andHonor's
children. I'll also add some data to
what Eve sent me.
SO HERE IS THE
AUGMENTED VERSION OF THE OLD FAMILY TREE!
> codes - c =
christening or baptism> IGI
= International Genealogical Index, available in all
public>
libraries(of a reasonable size) in England presumably also in the USA
> index = the reference no given to
all civil registrations,
andis> required
if you wish to send to the "National Registry" in Dublin for
the>
certificate.> James CRYAN - Died before 1901> Honor BEIRNE - The 1901
Census said she spoke Irish and English, herchildren only Englishmarried Feb 8,
1853 at Kilfree & Killaragt parish (which might havegoneover the county
line???). She claimed to be 60 in the
1901 census -
thatwould have
made her 13 when she was married; but this family alwaysliedlike thieves about
their age, (right down to the most recently deceasedgeneration, may they rest
in peace). Also, she shows as born in
Roscommonin the
same Census.
> children
> Michael c 5
Nov 1854 Boyle RC - Came to America - Lowell, then Rhode
Island? Maybe
Walter Cryan's grandfather? My grandfather always said
WalterCryan (a
long-time Providence newscaster) looked like his family.
> Bridgit c 24
Feb 1856 Boyle RC - Mrs. Delia McKinney (thanks, Karen)
> Anne c 13 Dec1857 Boyle RC - prob. married a man named Welsh or
Walshand moved to
Ulster
> James c 2 Oct
1859 Boyle RC - Claimed to be 30 in 1901.
Married Ann
Cryan from
Brougher Ballinafad; no kids - left farm to her nephew James
Cryan, whose widow
still lives in the house.
> Martin c 29
Sept 1861 Boyle RC - My great granddad - came to Lowell,
diedduring the
flood in 1938.
> Hanoria c 22
Nov 1863 Boyle RC - I didn't know about this one.
> John 17 Aug 1865 IGI prob birth(index 14.98) -
Claimed to be 20 in
1901!!! Never married, died an old man in Ireland;
Joe Cryan, Sr.,
said herode his
horse into town (Boyle) every Saturday night to dance.
> no John death in the national
registers
> John 30 Aug
1865 IGI probably christening of the same John
> Mary Jane birth
2 Jan 1870 - Came to Lowell, took my Grandpa to the
amusement park,
went back to Ballinanulta and died an old maid.
Claimed tobe
18!!!???!!! in 1901.
>
> The most
probable parents for James CRYAN are
> Michael CRYAN
and Bridgit FURY(various spellings)
> The names fit
those of James first two children
> children
> Anne c 20 Nov
1816 Boyle RC
> Mary c 1
April 1819 Boyle RC
> Winifred c 24
Oct 1820 Boyle RC
> Bridget c 9
Oct 1822 Boyle RC
> James c 2
July 1824 Boyle RC ***** your James ????
> Margaret c 5
April 1826 Boyle RC
> John c March 1830 (no date given)
> > possibly
Honor Beirne's parents are James and Anne ?
> I HAD ASKED
ABOUT THE RORKES, WHO WERE THE NEIGHBORS OF THE CRYANS IN
BALLINANULTAGH,
AND WHO, I WAS TOLD, CAME THERE TOGETHER FROM SLIGO.
OF COURSE, MY
GRANDFATHER SAID THAT THE FAMILY HAD BEEN ON THE SAME
PLOTFOR 1200
YEARS, SO WE HAVE A CONTRADICTION IN THE SOURCES - WHAT A SURPRISE!
From: Voltene@aol.com | Block address Date:
Wed, 29 Sep 1999 21:38:31 EDT
Subject:
Re: [CRYAN] Michael Cryan at
Lowell To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
In a message dated
99-09-29 08:33:27 EDT, FamSpack writes:
Hi, I could be that you have two different
Michaels here - Michael born
about 25 Sept 1826
who went into the 25 th could well be
the Michael killed
ion the railroad
aged 55 in 1882 ie born between 12 April 1826 and 12 April
1827 (newspaper
report), which could be the son of Patrick Cryan and Anne
Cawley of
Riversown, Co Sligo who have children at about that time Patrick in
1812 and Alice
1819.
However the census 1880 gives Michael aged 52
ie born 1828-9
I wonder if the 1880 census gives Michael
Cryan as living at 155
Market Street
similarly in the newspaper report of 1882, yet in 1885 the city
directory gives 189 Market Street whether
there are other
possibilities>>
which could be checked.
Hello,
Thank you for your
response to my query.
The 1880 Michael
Cryan is the same Michael who died in 1882.
Address in the
1880 Census was 155 Market St.
I really don't
trust date of births unless I have seen
the actual
birth record.The
newspaper article lists Michael's age as 55.
Another newspaper
lists the age as "about
60". Death record lists age as 53
years old.
Census says
52.Which one do you go by?
I also have the "Special
Schedule of the Surviving Soldiers, Sailors
and Marines and Widows", of the 1890
Census which lists "Mary, widow
of Michael
Cryan."
It is probably
just a co-incidence that the Cryan Bros,
Michael
and Martin, own a store on the same street, 189
Market, 2-3 years
after the 1882
death of Michael Cryan, of 155 Market
St.
Karen
MurphyNashua, NH
From:
"Joan Ogg" <joanogg@compuserve.com> | Block address To:
<caoimhghin@yahoo.com> Subject: You Web Page Date:
Sun, 3 Oct 1999 16:42:57 -0400
Dear Kevin,Sorry I
haven't been able to get to your page until now--been away!
Nicejob! Thanks for all the other links--very
helpful. I just began
researching all
the Cryan's who lived in Lowell, Massachusetts.
Corresponded with
several other "Cryan" researchers who also are
descendentsof
Lowell Cryan's. My great grandmother,
Jane Carroll Donovan,
daughter ofCormac
and Brigid (Cryan) Carroll, lived in Lowell when she emigrated
fromRoscommon. So, my guess is she came over to stay with
her mother's
familyin
Lowell.Keep up the wonderful page and take care.Regards, Joan
From:
Fatarm@aol.com | Block
address Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 12:56:19 EDT
Subject:
[CRYAN] Cryan artist (contemporary)
To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
Here's the
website:
<A
HREF="http://home.att.net/~lcryan/">Cryan Studio
Artists</A> or
http://home.att.net/~lcryan/ Happy surfing! -Leslie
From:
Fatarm@aol.com | Block
address Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 13:16:37 EDT
Subject:
[CRYAN] Beauty in the family
To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
I hope I'm not
driving you all crazy, but I'm having so much fun with
my new computer --
I can surf!!! Wee-doggie! -Leslie
Here's another fun
site: check out the name of 1981 -- Yup,
a Cryan.
<A
HREF="http://missamerica.org/formcont/ri.html">The Miss America
Organization:
Former Miss America Contestants</A>
or
http://missamerica.org/formcont/ri.html
From:
Jill Devito <devito@uta.edu>
| Block address
Subject:
RE: [CRYAN] Boston Cryan marriage into Ultican family
Date:
Thu, 14 Oct 1999 12:47:47 -0500
To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
Ultican/Cryan --
that's my line!
But I have
Margaret Ultican b. 1841 as married to a Peter Garvin on Sep
2,1869, in St.
John, New Brunswick, Canada. (I believe
that information
camefrom Kathy
Reimer, an Ultican descendent I ran into on the web).
Here is my
Cryan-Ultican connection:
According to my
information (this part is documented by my
Grandfather'scopy
of a marriage certificate), Margaret Ultican's sister Catherine E.
Ultican married
Francis O'Reilly, and their daughter Anna married John
Philip Cryan
(1874-1939) of Lowell, MA. Anna and John
were my
grandfather'sparents.I
am very intrigued by the connection of Margaret to a Cryan...
Let me know if you
find out any more!Thanks,Jill
From:
Fatarm@aol.com | Block
address Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 16:45:07 EDT
Subject:
[CRYAN] New subscriber - Cryan - introduction To:
CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
Hello all,
My G-GF was Thomas
Niland , b. around 1867, the son of Peter Niland and
Bridget Cryan of
Ballymote, Sligo, Ireland. I am
searching for
information on
Bridget and her family. Thomas' siblings
( that I know of) were
Kate, Beesy,
Patrick and John. I'll answer all
emails, if this rings a bell
with
anyone.Thanks,Peter
From: Fatarm@aol.com | Block address Date:
Wed, 20 Oct 1999 17:33:55 EDT