You list the
marriage details for John Cryan and Mary Anne O'Neil. I
already had this
but hadn't got the names of their fathers. Do you
still have the
source of that information? I would be very interested in it.
Incidentally,
there is a close connection with the Hannon surname at
this level of the
family. While I haven't been able to confirm that
they are my
ancestors yet,
married a Bridget
Hannon on 18 Feb 1944. This date comes just 2 years
before the birth
of John Cryan and so its quite possible that its my
ancestor. If you
have found evidence that John's father was indeed
Matthew, then its
almost certain in my mind that this couple were his
parents.
You name Arthur as
the father of Mary Ann O'Neil. Again, I would be
very interested in
the source of this information. O'Neil is not a common
name in those
parts and I was told that they were originally from
Donegal. I'm not
sure how far I have to go back to get the Donegal
connection. I
believe that the O'Neil's were farmers in Daughloonagh in
Bunnanaddan (I
think its now referred to as Baghloonagh). Mary Ann
O'Neil's father
died when she was young and her widowed mother (Norah
Keevins) remarried
a John Gallagher (1829:1919). In
which is near
Bunnanadden, there is a window donated
by John Gallagher
underneath which
reads "Erected by John Gallagher of Daughloonagh in
memory of my wife
Norah, my brother Martin and my son Michael".
I would also be
very interested in finding out the source of your
information for
the 2 Matthew Cryans :-
Mathew Cryan b.1811 died 1891 age 80
Mathew Cryan b. 1818 died 1898 age 80
Thanks again for
all the information which you have posted. It has been
very helpful to
me.regardsMichael
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Date: Tue, 3
Nov 1998 15:49:47 EST Subject:
[CRYAN-L] Cregan 1860's
CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
I'm searching for
information on the family of Catherine Cregan.
She
wassupposedly born
08 OCT 1862. Her parents were Daniel and
Margaret
(Moylan
{orMullen}) Cregan. Her husband John
Reidy came from Newcastle West,
Anyleads would be appreciated. Thank you.
From: "Roger Cryan and Regina
Pana-Cryan" <cryan@avana.net>Add to
Address Book Subject: Fw: [CRYAN-L] From
Date:
Tue, 3 Nov 1998 22:55:24 -0500
To:
CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
Thanks much to
Voltene for the information on the Lowell Cryans. Below
Iadd a little
more, using Voltene's info and the family history stuff
I'vedug out of its
box among boxes.
---------- Roger
Cryan Email: cryan@avana.net
James Cryan (d.
before 1901, Boyle) m.(m.c.1853; Kilfree
and Killaragt
R.C. parish, Co.
Sligo) Honoria Byrne (or Honora or Honor Bierne),
moved,pr. 1854, to
Ballynanulthagh (or Ballinultha) townland; Boyle parish;
Co.Roscommon.
Children-
Michael (b.1854,
Boyle >
James (b.1859,
Boyle; d. after 1941, pr. Boyle) m. Ann Cryan (b.
Brougher,Ballinafad,
Co.
John (?) (b.1865,
Boyle; d. 1865?)
John (b.1866,
Boyle; d. after 1941, pr. Boyle), never married
Martin (b.1861
Boyle, some records say 1864 or 1867 - that is why the
lifeinsurance
didn't pay off when he d. 1936
Bostonon 31 March
1881 aboard the ship "Palastine",
Brigid (or
"Delia") (b.1856, Boyle; d. 1941,
Anne (b.1857, Boyle; d.
Ulster.Mary Jane
(b.1869, Boyle>
The Kilfree and Kilaragt R.C. Parish of
thatit is now.Both
Martin had numerous children.
When James Cryan
moved with his new wife to Ballynanultagh, he came
fromsomewhere in
FarrellRorke
sharing a lease with James Cryan and a Patrick Rorke on an
adjoining(?)
leasehold in the 1857 Griffiths Valuation for the
townland.
THE NEXT STEP (OR
CAN SOMEONE HELP ME?)
I don't know where
these Cryans came from in
backto previous
generations. There are at least two possible
sources for
thisinformation:
1.
Paddy Rorke, who was living in Boyle in 1997, is the grandson (?)
ofthe Rorkes who
came to Ballynanultagh along with James Cryan.
He might
know something
about this; if someone comes across him, please ask him.
2. The
estate records for the Viscount Lorton, esp. for 1853-54. The
Viscounts Lorton,
unusually among large Irish landlords of the time,
managed his
estates through an agent, rather than farming them out
throughlayers of
middlemen. For this reason, the estate
records are likely to
contain details of
individual tenant farmers. I can only
assume, based
onthe large size
of Lorton's estate (which covered most of north
Roscommonand large
areas of
alsohis tenants,
and that some record of the origin of James Cryan or his
compatriot Rorkes
is made in the estate records. If anyone
is looking
through the Lorton
estate records, please see if there is anything on
thismove.
As I said before, I hope some of this has been
of help to others, and
thatsomeone can
tell me a thing or two.
In kinship, Roger
Cryan
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Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 08:59:48 -0000
Subject: [CRYAN-L] BOYLE town: - part 4
To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
Extract from
Parliamentary Gazetteer 1842 - 4
Boyle town - part
4
Municipal Affairs:
The town was
incorporated by charter of 11 James I; and had also a
charter,never
acted on, of 4 James II. the borough limits are not defined by
charter, but are
minutely traced, for proposed adoption, in the Report of
1837, onMunicipal
Boundaries. The corporation is styled, "The Boroughmaster,
FreeBurgesses, and
Commonality of the Borough of Boyle", and consists,
accordingto
charter, of a boroughmaster, 12 free burgesses, and an indefinite
numberof
commonality: but, at the date of the Municipal Corporation 's
Inquiry,the
boroughmaster and burgesses were all in effect the nominees of Lord
Lorton, the patron
of the borough, and 6 of the latter had no other
connection with
the town than by being the patron's relations or
friends.The
corporation, as puppets of the Earl of Kingston, returned two
members tothe
Irish parliament; and, at the Legistlative Union, Lord Lorton ,as
theEarl of
disenfranchisement.
There is no borough property. A court of record,
withjuristicion to
the amount of £3 6s 8d., and presided over by the
boroughmaster, was
created by the borough charter, and continued to be
theonly care of
the corporation after they were relieved from their
'onerousduty' of
sending members to parliament. A seneschal's court held in the
town, has no
juristicion in the town itself, but wields authority over
manymiles around
it, and within the limits of several baronies of the
county.Petty-sessions
are held by county magistrates, who reside near the
town. Theonly
police are a party of the county constabulary.
Statistics: -
Area of the
town,237 acres.
Poulation, in
1831, 3,433; in 1841, 3,235.
Houses 495.
Families employed
chiefly in agriculture, 169; in manufactures andtrade,
369; in other
pursuits,157.
Families supported
chiefly by property and professions,23; by the
directionof
labour, 364;by their own manual labour, 246; by means not specified, 56;
Males at and above
the age of 5 years of age who could read and write,
783;who could read
but not write, 171; who could neither read nor write,
448.Females at and
above the age of 5 years of age who could read and
write,470; who
could read but not write, 309; who could neither read nor
write,682.(note:-
this gives 327 children under 5)
This is the end of
the Boyle extract.
From: Fatarm@aol.comAdd to Address Book
Date:
Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:54:14 EST
Subject:
[CRYAN-L] Irish language (from a variety of sources)
To:
CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
I've been
collecting information on the language of the Irish that some
othersof you may
be interested in:
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- - - -
Posted on the
GenIre mailing list:
You can find an
example of the Irish Alphabet and the way it
is pronounced
athttp://www.standard.net.au/~jwilliams/data.htm
-Jenny FawcettI haven't checked it out - a
lot of this person's site references
Tipperaryand
islisting info new
to her site often on GenIre-L).
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A bit of news
posted on GenIre, Thu, 29 Oct 1998 by
ClaireKeen@aol.com
Subject: Irish
Gaelic to be taught in British schools
Pardon this non-genealogy note, but I
just had to pass the word, for
thosewhomay not
have heard:
The BBC reports that
studyIrish Gaelic
to fulfill their modern language requirement.
They also
hope tobegin
teacher and student exchanges between
hope toconnect
their respective 'nets. For the full
report, see the BBC Web
site, inthe
Education section.
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Also from GenIre,
From: jayohbee@iol.ie
Subject: Co.
The following is based on information
from a post 1911 irish
directory. The most interesting thing here are
the numbers of people who spoke
Irishand English
vs. Irish only for the earlier years - these from one of
ourcounties which
still has gaeltacht areas.
Length from Dursey
island in the south west to Kilbeheny near
Mitchellstownis 98
miles: greatest length from Crow Head to Youghal is 102 miles;
breadth from the
boundary at
toRobert's Head
south of
The name of the county is derived from
that of the city, being a
shortenedform of
the Gaelic word Corcagh which signifies a marsh. The present
countclearly
corresponds with the ancient sub
O'Driscolls
comprised all the districts from
BantryBay, and the
peninsula between
theancient Iveagh,
the territory of the O'Mahony's. On the
point of
Durseyisland are
three sea rocks called in English, the Bull, the Cow and the
Calf; they are
celebrated in legendary history as the place where Donn
oneof the Milesian
brothers perished in a storm with the crew of his ship.
Several of the old
territories are represented in name and position by
baronies. Thus the old district of Beanntraighe is the
Barony of
Bantry;Cairbre the
Barony of Carbery; Muscraighe the Barony of Muskerry;
Duthaighe-Eada the
Barony of Duhallow; Feara-Muighe the Barony of
Fermoycalled in
later ages, the Roches country.
Census Period Population Increase/Decrease
1821 730,444
1831 810,732 + 80,288
1841 854,118 +43,386
1851 649,308 -204,810
1861 544,818 -104,490
1871 517,076 -27,742
1881 495,607 -21,469
1891 438,432 -57,175
1901 404.611 -33,821
1911 392,104 -12,507
1926 365,747 -26,357
Families & Houses in 1926: The number of families in the county was
74,878,the average
number in each family being 4.6. The
number of inhabited
houseswas 63,245,
showing an average of 4.9 people to each house.
There were in the county 37,445
occupiers or Heads of families who
were
inoccupation of less than 5 rooms, being
50.1% of the total for the
county. Of these,
1,301 occupied one room; 7,729, two rooms; 10,649, three
roomsand 17,766,
four rooms.
There were 639 tenements in the county
in which the room had only one
occupant; 546
cases where the room had 2-4 occupants; 101 cases of 5-7
occupants and 15
cases where the room had more than 7 occupants
includingone case
where ten persons occupied the same room.
Of the population
in 1926, 89.2% were born in the county.
Religious
Persuasion: %
of popluation
No. of people 1926
1911 1901 1891
1881 1871
RC 271,072 94.34
91.45 91.32 91.3
91.7 91.5
C of I 13,791 4.86 7.29
7.31 7.4 7.2
7.1
Presbyter. 468 0.13 0.33
0.33 0.4 0.4
0.3
Methodists 1,221 0.42 0.65
0.68 0.7 0.5
0.5
All others 705 0.25 0.28
0.36 0.2 0.2
0.6
Education: In 1911 there were in the county 259,477
persons aged 9
years andupwards;
of these 230,564 could read & write; 4,489 could read only and
24,424were
illiterate.
Irish Speaking:
Years: 1911 1901
1891 1881 1871
1861
Irish only 557
1,065 2,270 5,571
11,532 16,478
Ir. &
Eng. 76,648 96,914
110,246 156,785 135,437 178,979
______________________________
Lastly, from a
book I'm reading, "Perspectives on Irish Nationalism",
ed. by
Thomas E. Hachey
& Lawrence J McCaffrey, The Univ. Press of Kentucky,
1989:
Lawrence J.
McCaffrey's article, "Components of Irish Nationalism", p.
23:
"In the sixteenth and seventeenth
centuries the English state may have
beensecond to none
in the ferocity of its campaigns against indigenous
languageand
culture in Ireland and elsewhere, but its efforts in this respect
innineteenth-century
Ireland were pusillanimous. The
mainspring of
cultural
andlinguistic change was popular response to economic realities. It was
populardemand for
education in English that created the flourishing - and
chaotic -growth of
pay schools in the early decades of the nineteenth century.
... Arecent
ingenious analysis of the census data - which, while not a fully
satisfactory guide
in language matters, are all we have to go on -
suggeststhat of
Irish children born from 1801 to 1811, 45 percent may have been
brought up
speaking Irish. For those born 1831-41,
the estimated
percentagedropped
to 28, and for those born 1861-71, to 13."
I thought this paragraph neatly
answered my own previous inquiry into
why
thelanguage/spelling of surnames seemed to change so dramatically right
aroundthe year
1800. There are also articles on the
Folklore of Irish
Nationalism,The
Land Question in Nationalist Politics, Irish Nationalism and the
BritishConnection,
and others. The articles are well
written and well thought
out,the result of
a symposium on Irish Nationalism held in Chicago (which
isprobably why our
otherwise pathetic public library collection has this
scholarly work).Ta
till later, Leslie
From: Fatarm@aol.comAdd to Address Book
Date:
Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:56:20 EST
Subject:
[CRYAN-L] For Cork researchers (Cork-ers??)
To:
CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
Date: Thu, 29 Oct
1998 22:09:17 -0500
From:
"Elizabeth W. Knowlton" <KnowltonEW@compuserve.com>
To:
GENIRE-L@rootsweb.com
Subject: Marriages,
Diocese of Cork & Ross, 1716-1844
First I want to thank from the bottom
of my heart the wonderful
people who
recommended I look at Albert Casey's 14+ vols. of extracts
fromrecords in the
Upper Blackwater, Cork/Kerry area. You
are right: it is
agoldmine. I won't go on about all the
breakthroughs I have made, but last
night I found
reference to a marriage record that I think is my 3rd
greatgrandparents'. It was in vol. 4 of the Casey vols. under a
heading, "
Marriages, Diocese
of Cork and Ross, 1716-1844, Public Records Office,
Dublin (generally
deficient in Roman Catholic records and pre-1740)."
Allit had was
"William Winspeare Rogers McCarthy married Eleanor Hegarty,
1829." I know the PRO is now the Natl Library
on Kildare St. Would
thisbe an index or
an extraction? I have looked through
Grenham [it is not
mentioned under
Church Records] and think perhaps it is a manuscript
indexto original
applications for marriage licenses [as opposed to marriage
bybanns]. Casey seems to have made a photographic copy
of a printed item
because he has it
laid out and reduced to fit four original pages to
one ofhis. I want to know if more information is
available, or is this what
isleft after the
1922 fire destroyed some other document?
Also, I have studied several books and
sort of know where the
diocese of Cork
and Ross is, but is it a Roman Catholic diocese since I
donot see it
listed under the Church of Ireland diocese maps? This
familywas Cof I by
1845 but could have been RC earlier.
Also, is everyone still off on some
other listserve because I
amgetting only
5-10 messages a day from GenIre when I used to get many
more?Elizabeth
Winspeare Knowlton
KnowltonEW@Compuserve.com
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Date:
Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:20:30 EST
Subject:
[CRYAN-L] Web sites: newspapers and Irish links
To:
CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
This was forwarded
from Lee-L, through Murphy-L, to us:
Date: Fri, 30 Oct
1998 17:23:31 -0800
From: Patti Easton
<crackle@mcn.net>
Subject: [LEE-L]
searchable newspapers
I received this
link this morning, and thought it worthy enough to pass
on.Searchable
index to newspapers, also providing FULL text view after
search.
1) The
Pennsylvania Gazette 1728-1800
2) The Civil War:
A Newspaper Perspective November 1860 - April 1865
(from the
Charleston Mercury * The New York Herald * RichmondEnquirer)
3) a database of
19th century African American newspapers,
4) The
Pennsylvania Newspaper Record: Delaware County 1819-1870.
5) The
Pennsylvania Genealogical Catalogue: Chester County 1809-1870
http://204.170.102.11/cgi-bin/accessible/verify.pl
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Date: Tue, 3 Nov
1998 00:09:23 -0000
From: "Jane
O'Brien" <jayohbee@iol.ie>
Subject: Some
Irish URL's/Irish Links
Irish National
Teachers Organisation
http://www.into.ie
Bord Falite: Irish
tourist board
hhtp://www.ireland.travel.ie/
Cork, the Friendly
City http://www.indigo.ie/press/cork/welcome.htm
Swift: Ireland
only search engine
http://swift.kerna.ie
Northern Ireland
Tourism
http://www.ni-tourism.com
Irish
Newspapers:
Irish Times
http://www.irish-times.com/cgi-bin/today/
Belfast
Telegraph http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/
Irish News Global
Edition
http://www.irishnews.com/
Munster Express
http://www.iol.ie/~munster/index.html
Clare
Champion
http://www.iol.ie/~galvo/clachamp.htm
Galway
Advertiser http://www.iol.ie/resource/ga/
Anderstown News
http://www.iol.ie/anderstown-news/
In Dublin
(magazine) http://www.indublin.ie/
Dublin Event
Guide
http://www.dkm.ie/events/dublin/
Westmeath
Examiner
http://www.westmeath-examiner.ie
Irish Broadcasters:
RTE http://www.rte.ie
2FM http://www.iol.ie/2fm/
FM 104 http://www.iol.ie/fm104/
The complete guide
to Galway
http://www.wombat.ie/galwayguide/
Dublin VR http://www.fusio.com/dublinvr
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Date:
Thu, 5 Nov 1998 21:11:38 EST
Subject:
[CRYAN-L] Debrett's on Landlord, Viscount Lorton
To:
CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
I've come across
the Viscount Lorton as a landholder/landlord often in
thecourse of my
research on the O'Crean family, mostly in Co. Roscommon,
but alsoin Co.
Sligo. I finally got around to
"looking him up" in Debrett's at
thelibrary, and
thought I'd transcribe (for those of you who may be
interested)the
entry on the Viscount's predecessors.
The title was created in the
19thc. for a
second son and then was combined back into the main family
line ofthe Earls
of Kingston as described below:
[This is from a
1950 Debrett's, ed. by Hankinson, pages 619-20:]
Residence: Annaghboy,
Boyle, Co. Roscommon
(1) Robert King,
P.C., M.P. for Co. Roscommon; cr. a Baronet 1682; d.
1702: s.by his el.
son
(2) Sir John, 2nd
Bt., M.P. for Co. Roscommon; d.s.p. 1720; s. by his
brother
(3) Sir Henry,
P.C., 3rd Bt.; M.P. for Co. Roscommon: m. 1722 Isabella
Wingfield, sister
of 1st Viscount Powerscourt; d. 1740; s. by his el.
son
(4) Sir Robert,
4th Bt.; cr. Baron Kingsborough (peerage of Ireland)
1748; d.unmarried
1755 when the barony expired, and the baronetcy devolved upon
hisbrother
(5) Sir Edward,
5th Bt.; cr. Baron Kingston of Rockingham, Co.
Roscommon(peerage
of Ireland) 1764, Viscount Kingston of Kingsborough, Co. Sligo
(peerage of
Ireland) 1766, and Earl of Kingston (peerage of Ireland)
1768; d.1797; s.
by his son
(6) Robert, 2nd
Earl; was M.P. for Co. Cork; his 2nd son, Robert
Edward, aGeneral
in the Army, and Lord Lieutenant of Roscommon, was cr. Baron
Erris, ofBoyle,
Co. Roscommon (peerage of Ireland) 1800 and Viscount Lorton, of
Boyle,Co.
Roscommon (peerage of Ireland) 1806; the Earl d. 1799; s. by his
son
(7) George, 3rd
Earl; cr. Baron Kingston of Mitchelstown, Co. Cork
(peerage ofU.K.)
1821; d. 1839; s. by his el. surviving son
(8) Robert Henry,
4th Earl; d. 1867; s. by his brother
(9) James, 5th
Earl: m. 1860, Anne, dau. of Matthew Brinkley, of
Pasrsonstown,Meath;
d.s.p. 1869, when the Barony of Kingston of Mitchelstown
expired, andthe
Irish peerages reverted to his cousin
(10) Robert, 6th
Earl, who had in 1854 s. his father as 2nd Viscount
Lorton[this is the
Viscount Lorton referenced in Griffith's Land Valuation
therefore]; b.
1804: m. 1829, Anne, Dau. of Sir Robert Newcomen
Gore-Booth,Bt.; d.
1869; s. by his el. son
(11) Robert
Edward, 7th Earl; d. 1871; s. by his brother
(12) Henry Ernest
Newcomen, 8th Earl; b. 1848: Lord-Lieutenant of Co.
Roscommon, and a
Representative Peer for Ireland; assumed by Roy.
Licence[sic] 1883,
the additional surname of Tenison: m. 1872, Florence
MargaretChristine,
who d. 1907, dau. of the late Col. Edward King Tenison of
KilronanCastle: d.
1896 ....
[I will provide
the first half of the 20th c. info to anyone
interested, but
Ifigure most of us care far more to shed light on the 19th c.]
From: Fatarm@aol.comAdd to Address Book
Date:
Fri, 6 Nov 1998 12:10:58 EST
Subject:
[CRYAN-L] Pass & Imm Indx
Lists: Creg-, Crey-, and Crog- ans
To:
CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
Last night I had
an opportunity to double-check some of my earliest
researchat the
public library and picked up these additional listings for Creg
andCrog -ans:
BEGINNING PAGE 112 [TOP]
Cregan, Francis:
Phila., PA, 1858
Cregan, James:
Phila., PA, 1860
Cregan, Michael:
Phila., PA, 1868
Cregon, James:
Phila., PA 1858
Creyon, Luke, age
20: NY, NY, 1803
Creyon, Roger, age
18: NY, NY, 1803
Croggan or
Croggon, Henry B: Alexandria, VA, 1818
Croghan, Mrs. with
two children: San Fran, CA, 1862
Croghan, John:
Phila., PA, 1859
Croghan, John, age
24: NY, NY, 1847
Croghan, Margaret,
26: NY, NY, 1847
Crighan, Patrick,
28: NY, NY, 1847
Crohegan, Michael,
age 20: Boston, MA, 1849
Crogan, J.J. age
30: Balt., MD, 1833
Crogan, Herman
Peterson: S. Dakota, no date
Croghan, Dominic,
age 19: Balt., MD 1874
If you can or
think you can lay claim to one of these, please contact
me and Iwill give
you the source information.
-Leslie
END
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Date:
Wed, 11 Nov 1998 05:47:45 EST
Subject:
[CRYAN-L] Messages-Wednesday
To:
CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
I have not
received any post since last Friday, November 6th I am
wonderingif there
is a problem.? I have received some from
other sources so I
hope itis not my
PC.I really appreciate all the Cryan details , although they have not as
yethelped me with
my research , they are useful background. Best wishes to
allCryans ,Pat
Moseley. Birmingham England
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Subject: Re: [CRYAN-L] Messages-Wednesday
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 11:12:48 -0000
To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
Hi, I think everyone
is waiting for someone else to do the posting. Or
elseas I am at
this minute, when they make a contact mailing to the person
notthe list - pity
!!! (I also am sending this to the list)
Suggestion,there
seem to be several people with interests in Lowell,
Massand I have
just written to a person with Mass. interests inviting here
tojoin the list
......... why not write what you do know about your family
CRYAN for the
whole list. Describe the bits that you do not know about,
askquestions about
the bits you are currently interested in, family
stories...etc.....
I was very
surprised to generate no reaction when I gave my reasons for
thinking it
possible that my ancestor was the only CRYAN on the
AustralianTransportation
list. I would have hoped that someone would have asked
something.........
perhaps "How did you find out where the ship went
to?"Noone
will answer questions that are not asked.
I am sure that everyone is saving all the
titbits in case they are
usefulin the
future.Good luck with your research, do ask some questions, you may be
surprisedand
pleased with the results. (I live on hope - the greatest vitue ,I
think)Yours, Eve
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Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 11:37:19 -0000
Subject: [CRYAN-L] Irish Language
To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
Hi Everyone,
I am sorry not to
have clipped the previous message, but once sent it
is toolate.Thought
that anyone who is interested in the Irish Language might like
totry this
site(with sound files) that though I have not tried,was
recommendedback in
July.http://www.geocities.com/CollegePark/Library/5433/less1.htm
Another site
described as "Free interactive multimedia language
laboratoryon-line
LINGOLAB. Learn Irish pronunciation, vocabulary and literature
usingmy FREE
Swim-Two-Birds on-line interactive multimedia Language
Laboratory".http://www.mpx.com.au/~hugho/verse/lingolab.htm
and at
http://www.mpx.com.au/~hugho/verse/MCourt.htm
you'll hear a
famousIrish poem
in the Gaelic(you can read along in English and see how it is
pronounced too) -
"The Midnight Court" by Brian Merriman 1780,
celebratesthe
..........I guess that you will find out.
Until again, Eve
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Surnames being
researched by subscribers:
Craigen/Creighan,
Crawn/Craun,
Crane, Crain-e, Crean, Creen-e, Creagan/Cregan/Creaghan,
Creah
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Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 12:19:10 -0000
Subject: [CRYAN-L] Boyle Registers
To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
. I have come
across some entries in these registers, (so far I have
much
of1793,4,&5), relating to Robert CRYAN and Matilda it looks like Sythe or
Lythe or similar.
Do you have any idea what it could be?I will post what I have to date when I
have time.The list is quiet at the moment, could someone please say what they
thinkabout the web
sites that we have recommended. I have not tried the
languageones so
would love to hear what you think.Perhaps someone could tell me about the
SHAMROCK list that I have heardmentioned but not tried.
I also think that
,as I am extracting and translating what I
can from
theBoyle RC
registers that they should go to the Leitrim and Roscommon
List.What do you
think about trying to persuade EdFinn to include the
southernpart of Co
Sligo as many of the parishes and the registration district
coverboth
counties?Until again, Take care, Eve
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Other locations
being researched by Subscribers: Australia; Wales;
Birmingham and
Norwich, Eng.; Scotland
From: Fatarm@aol.comAdd to Address Book
Date:
Wed, 11 Nov 1998 21:01:18 EST
Subject:
[CRYAN-L] No, Pat, I think we've all just been a bit quiet
To:
CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
this past
weekend. However, I do have some
news: everybody, please
welcomesubscriber
#43, a Crehan researcher who referenced a burial listing in
Pittsburgh (if I'm
remembering correctly). I hope we'll
read of her
researchsoon
through the list.I've finished inputting the LDS' "thru-March 1988"
data output sent onbyCaoimhghin this past weekend (19 pages of hardcopy), and
I'm starting
to sortout who
might be interested in what. It's rather
large, too large to
sendthrough the
list, so I'm picking out pieces to send everyone, based on
yourpostings --
sorting by surnames, first names and locations.
I'll try
dates,too, come to
think of it. I know some people will
have direct hits,
but manyof us may
just be intrigued by the possibilities of connections. It'll
takeme a couple of
weeks to get to everyone, and I'll send it directly
rather thanthrough
the list. At least that's what I'm
thinking -- I'd be happy to
entertain any
other idea, because I think the data worth sharing with
everyone. -- Leslie
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Areas (Ire)
researching: Bandon and Glounthaune, Cork; Castlebar, Mayo;
Wexford; Dingle
Peninsula; Caherciveen, Kerry; Newcastle West & Glin,
Limrk; Donegal;
Nenagh, Tipp; Ballybane, Galway; Boyle & Keash, Sligo
From: Fatarm@aol.comAdd to Address Book
Date:
Wed, 11 Nov 1998 21:10:43 EST
Subject:
[CRYAN-L] Co. Leitrim/Rosc. web pages
To:
CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
Eve and all,
Has anyone had any
contact with Mr. Finn? I admit to having
writing
but neverreceived
a response (at least not to memory), so I have an impression
thathe's a busy
guy.I think writing to other researchers is great -- I only wish everyone
wasonline! Leslie
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Areas (N.Am.)
researching: Boston, Lowell & Worcester, MA; Eldorado &
Milwaukee, WI;
upstate NY; Oregon; Pittsburgh, PA; NY/NYC/NJ; IN/MO/IL;
N & S Dakota;
Cleve., OH; Rainy River District, Ont.
Canada.
From: Fatarm@aol.comAdd to Address Book
Date:
Wed, 11 Nov 1998 21:14:50 EST
Subject:
[CRYAN-L] Irish Emigrant conditions
To:
CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
The county Cork
mailing list has been having a bunch of postings on the
following article,
so I thought I'd repost here for all you
Cork-ers/Cork-ians(what
IS the correct word?!) and just as general interest Ireland.
---------------Here
is the site where the article is
<A
HREF="http://www.standard.net.au/~jwilliams/d1.htm">An Irish
Emigrant
1864</A> <----click here or
type address below
http://www.standard.net.au/~jwilliams/d1.htm
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Have you come
across a Craine while doing Creahan research?
Post it
here:
Cryan-L@rootsweb.com
From:
Julie_Case@prodigy.com (MS JULIA M
CASE)Add to Address Book
Date:
Wed, 11 Nov 1998 22:56:51, -0500
Subject:
RootsWeb Review, Vol. 1, No. 22
To:
RootsWeb-Review@rootsweb.com
ROOTSWEB REVIEW:
Genealogical Data Cooperative News
Vol. 1, No. 22, 11
November 1998; Circulation: 229,000+
Copyright (c) 1998
RootsWeb Genealogical Data Cooperative
This article first
appeared in the National Genealogical Society
Computer Interest
Group's "NGS/CIG DIGEST," Volume 17 Number 4,
July August 1998.
ROOTSWEB AND USGENWEB:
WORKING TOGETHER FOR GENEALOGY ON THE
INTERNET
by Karen Isaacson
The Internet, and
genealogy on the Internet, have both been
around far longer
than many online genealogists realize. "On
Distributed
Communications Networks" by P. Baran, one of the
first papers
describing how the Internet would be built, was
published by RAND
as P-2626 in 1962. If you're interested, you
can read the
abstract or order a copy online at <http://
www.rand.org/cgi-bin/Abstracts/ordi/getab.pl?523207-525148>.
In
1969, four
computers were linked together, and the network was
born.
Not much of
genealogical interest happened for awhile, though.
About a decade
later, newgroups and the USENET were begun. There
was so little
traffic that I used to read all messages in all
groups in a few
minutes over lunch, and still had time to take a
walk. By 1983, the
newsgroup net.roots, named after the popular
Roots miniseries,
had been launched, and with it, genealogy on
the Internet.
What, you may be
wondering, does all that ancient history have to
do with RootsWeb
and USGenWeb? Easily explained: we're
genealogists,
interested in determining the roots of things, and
RootsWeb and
USGenWeb are the logical descendants of those early
efforts.
The Internet,
until a few years ago, was an aggressively non-
commercial place.
There was no spam, there were no
advertisements.
Customer support was usually conducted via e-mail
rather than in the
newsgroups, and people even felt slightly
queasy about using
e-mail for such commercial purposes, believe
it or not. Access,
if you could get it at all, was "free" -- from
an employer, from
a university, perhaps (later) from a community-
based Freenet.
There was a culture of volunteers working
together, to make
resources freely available to the general
community. There
was no World Wide Web. The tools used by most
netizens were
e-mail, FTP, and perhaps telnet.
I'm not sure when
mailing lists first started appearing.
LISTSERV, one of
the most common programs for supporting mailing
lists, was started
in late 1986. In 1987, Alf Christophersen of
Norway, and Marty
Hoag of North Dakota State University, started
the ROOTS-L
mailing list, and gatewayed it with soc.roots, the
Usenet newsgroup
(renamed from net.roots shortly before.)
With the creation
of ROOTS-L, things began to happen. John Wilson
proposed a
database of surnames people were searching in late
1988. When he was
unable to maintain it, I took it over. The RSL,
or RootsWeb
Surname List, now contains [more than] half a million
surnames submitted
by over 60,000 Internet genealogists. This
probably makes it
the largest cooperative genealogical effort
on the net, in
terms of participation. The RSL is available
online at
<http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/rslsearch.pl>.
About the same
time, Cliff Manis got permission from Marty Hoag
to start a library
of genealogy files on the NDSU FTP server and,
with help from
various ROOTS-L participants, made hundreds of
files freely
available to anyone on the network. That library is
still available,
though it's getting to be an interesting period
piece, its value
overtaken by wonderful new resources such as the
USGenWeb archives.
If you would like to visit it, it's now
available at
<http://www.rootsweb.com/roots-l/filelist.html>.
My favorite is
called genealog.interbbs, at
<http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/roots-l/genealog/genealog.interbbs>.
What is
genealog.interbbs? A complete listing (dated December
1991) of BBSs with
Internet access. There are all of thirty or so
listed.Times
change. The Internet has broadened to include the world at
large. [Prodigy],
AOL, CompuServe, and the other online services
provided access,
and the world arrived with a roar in our quaint
little academic
cul de sac. We didn't (quite) say, "There goes
the
neighborhood," but I do confess that there was some
nervousness about
the hordes of new folk. Would they wipe their
feet? Keep their
voices down? Would they get it?
The transition has
been, at times, rocky. But I think it's now
safe to claim that
those wonderful attributes and attitudes of
the old Internet,
people pulling together, people working
together to make
resources freely available to the community,
have survived.
They have more than survived, they are thriving
now as never
before, and with wonderful results such as RootsWeb
and USGenWeb.It
didn't happen overnight, though. One problem, of course, was
financial. Isn't
it always? In the old Internet, resources such
as mailing lists
and archives were typically provided by a
friendly
university. ROOTS-L was at NDSU. The
genealogical
methods mailing
list, GENMTD-L, was launched at Georgia Tech.
But the staff and
equipment required to support these "free"
resources rapidly
grew, and, in a time of shrinking budgets,
often overwhelmed
our hosts, who then, though with regret, had to
ask us to make
alternative arrangements.
My husband, Dr.
Brian Leverich, and I have been active in
genealogy on the
Internet since 1986. By late 1995, we were
concerned about
the future of genealogy on the Internet. We
weren't worried
about its having a future, it clearly did. But we
were worried about
what that future would be like. Would all data
be under lock and
key, and only available in "pay per view" mode?
Would mailing
lists, like magazines, have to charge their
subscribers a fee?
When ROOTS-L had to leave NDSU and find a new
home, before
eWorld/Apple offered to host us for free, it looked
like we would have
to find $3,000 a year to pay to have the list
hosted. For
someone imbued with the old Internet ethic, these
were daunting
prospects. But what were the alternatives?
An alternative,
and the one we chose, was simply to do it
ourselves. Brian
had told me over and over, while I agonized
about what was to
become of ROOTS-L, that we could host it
ourselves, on our
equipment. I was skeptical. But we both thought
it possible that
the community would voluntarily chip in enough
to cover hardware
and bandwidth, and that resources such as the
ROOTS-L mailing
list could continue to be freely available.
Thus was born
RootsWeb. We wanted to call it roots.com, but
that name was
already taken. It was scary, but exciting, and in
the early days of
1996, not too expensive. Since that time our
load has increased
more than ten-fold, and our costs have
similarly
increased. And at least to date, with help from
thousands of individual
contributors and recently with the
corporate
sponsorship by Palladium Interactive (publishers of
Ultimate Family
Tree), the community has chipped in to make a
reality of our
collective dream: a community-supported Internet
site that makes
genealogical data and research facilities freely
available to all
Internet genealogists. Folks interested in
helping RootsWeb
can visit:
<http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html>
When did RootsWeb
and USGenWeb begin their partnership? With
Linda Lewis, and
her "TimeToDo" project (which evolved into the
USGenWeb Archives)
in June of 1996. But it could have been
earlier: Jeff
Murphy, the founder of USGenWeb, approached us
early in 1996
about providing Web space for Web pages for every
state. We didn't
"get" it, it sounded like a duplication of the
Web pages ROOTS-L
had already assembled for every state, which
can still be found
at <http://www.rootsweb.com/roots-l/usa.html>.
Jeff meant
USGenWeb, and wandered off elsewhere to build the
project.
USGenWeb, like
RootsWeb, is an example of the old Internet
culture
transitioning successfully onto the new Internet.
Thousands of
volunteers are working together to provide Web sites
and free
information about every county in every state in the
United States.
They have an ambitious project to transcribe all
of the U.S.
Federal Censuses and put them online. They have
another exciting
project called the Tombstone Transcription
Project, for
transcribing cemeteries. Everyone is pitching in
together, working
to create something of value for the entire
community.
Although RootsWeb
initially missed an opportunity to host the
project, we got a
second opportunity later, when the ISP hosting
USGenWeb had
difficulties supporting it. We currently serve not
only the
usgenweb.org, .net, and .com domains, but also the
homepages for
about 40 of the state pages, and thousands of
county homepages.
We also provide a home for both the Census
Project and the
Tombstone Transcription Project. We host
thousands of
mailing lists for USGenWeb counties and states, and
thousands of query
boards using the new GenConnect system. There
are 750 MB of
material in the USGenWeb archives. It's been wild,
it's been fun,
it's been challenging (understatement), but it's
been rewarding and
satisfying to see the community working
together, to
support the RootsWeb server, and to provide
resources, both
through RootsWeb and the mailing lists, and
through USGenWeb
and its archives. I think this is the start of a
beautiful
friendship.
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From: "Family History" <
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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 13:39:50 -0000
Subject: [CRYAN-L] Meaning of LDS
To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
Hi to all
especially Roger,
You ask the
meaning of LDS, it stands for Latter Day Saints or more
fullyThe Church of
Jesus Christ and the Latter Day Saints frequently called
TheMormans. They
have collected or photographs huge numbers of genealogical
records throughout
the world. Some are on fiche and some on film. There
is ahuge centre
for genealogy in Salt Lake City, their headquarters and a
network of Family
History Centres, known as FHCs,
throughout the world
which has access
to these resources. These FHCs are open to the public
butfor most you
have to book in advance and priority is given to church
members. They are
very kind and helpful to newcomers and know a lot
aboutresearch, so
it is worth making contact. Addresses can be found on the
internet or in a
telephone book or white pages.
I hope that this
is helpful, Eve
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Check out
Ireland's National Archives:
//www.nationalarchives.ie/genealogy.html
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From: "Family History" <
>Add to Address Book
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 13:48:56 -0000
Subject: [CRYAN-L] New entry for the CRYAN
roll of honour
To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
Hi All,
Sadly, my mother
Aileen CRYAN died last night, she slipped quietly awaywithher family around
her, after 86 years.Please pray for her and for usall.I shall be absent from
the list for a time while making the finalarrangements. But I hope that you
will all keep the list active and Ieagerly await a collection of all the mails
later.Until again later, Eve
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Have you come
across a Craine while doing Creahan research?
Post it
here:
Cryan-L@rootsweb.com
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 08:58:01 -0500 (EST)
From:
simone samuel <amethyst@inch.com>Add to Address Book
Subject:
Re: [CRYAN-L] New entry for the CRYAN roll of honour
To:
CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
Dear Eve,
I'm sorry to hear about your mother's death.
I'll pray for her and
yourfamily.Sincerely,Theresa
Mary
From:
Fatarm@aol.comAdd to Address Book
Date:
Thu, 12 Nov 1998 10:41:24 EST
Subject:
[CRYAN-L] Mary Cryan
To:
CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
Hello Leslie and
all:
Do you have any
information on a Mary Cryan abt. 1900-1960?
She
married aDaniel
Roy McCarthy from Minnesota and settled in New York State -
QueensCounty.Can
you help me with your list?
Thank you.Mark
From:
Fatarm@aol.comAdd to Address Book
Date:
Fri, 13 Nov 1998 10:51:56 EST
Subject:
[CRYAN-L] 1749 Elphin Diocese
To:
CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
Once again, clues
from Caoimhghin ....
(Census) 1749 Elphin Diocese
[I believe
everyone on the below list was listed as a papist]
Parish Abode Names & Rel Profession
Killummod Carroun Bryan & Honor Crien D
Knockrow James & Honor Crine Smith
Killukin Croghan
Boyle Boyle Conor Crynes Beggar
Shancoe
Ballin___ J. O'Cryan Farmer
Aughrim
Ardcarn
Ahrefinican D. Cryne DO
Jim [or Sim?] Cryne Farmer
P. Cryne
DO
Eastersnow
Killcola Batallion Laughlen Cryne Herd
Elphin
Co. Sligo
Aghanagh
Aghamlish
Ballinakill
Ballysumaoher
Drumcolum
Killidoon Corlasheen John Cryan Labourer
Kilmacallan
Killmagranny
Sligo Sligo John Crean & wife Slap Boiler
William Crean & wife Cotter
Lawrence Crean & wife Cotter
Widow Sisly Crean Shopkeeper
Martin Crean & wife Yarn
Mer.
Pat Crean & wife
Farmer
Dinis Creaghan & wife
Labourer
John Creaghan & wife Cotter
[Thanks
Kevin! And sorry if I've mangled the
reading of your
handwriting ...
Leslie]
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From: Fatarm@aol.comAdd to Address Book Date:
Fri, 13 Nov 1998 10:54:55 EST
Subject:
[CRYAN-L] Crine burials of Boyle
To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
>From
Caoimhghin:
Crine Burials of Boyle, Catholic Registry:
Margaret Cryan, d.
1938-01-30 age 35. Address: Grangemore.
John Cryan,
Ballinultagh, d. 1855-12-24 age 36.
Paul Cryan,
Backlane, d. 1858-09-??, age 76.
Brigid Cryan,
Ballinultagh, d. 1852-01-??, age 74.
Briget Cryan,
Grallagh, d. 1839-02-12, age 70.
From: "Michael Tobin"
<tobinmi@hotmail.com>Add to Address Book
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998
10:28:10 PST Subject: [CRYAN-L]
LDS info To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
Hello Leslie,
Concerning the
information which you have extracted from the LDSrecords
and which you were
thinking of emailing to people individually - Ithink
it would be useful
to copy the mailing list on such information.I think it will help in that
people might spot some similarities with their own research, e.g people's
names, places, etc.. One problem might
be that a lot of
information will be flowing around. Personally, I'm happier with too much
rather than too little information.What do others think? Hopefully the question
of privacy of such information isn't an issue. If its in the LDS, is it already
public domain, so maybe its not a privacy issue?regardsMichael
From:
RuthK3834@aol.comAdd to Address Book
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998
23:55:21 EST
Subject:
[CRYAN-L] Fwd: ship lists sites
To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
Return-Path:
<IRELAND-L-request@rootsweb.com>
Old-To:
IRELAND-L@rootsweb.com
Date: Fri, 13 Nov
1998 11:54:34 -0500
Subject: ship
lists sites
Received the
following from another list I belong to.
Today's url is a
brand new website.
The Emigrant
Ship Lists Transcribers Guild
http://iigs.rootsweb.com/immships/index1.html
This ambitious
project has 200 volunteers transcribing ships lists from
NARAto put online
for free.There are presently 75 lists
transcribed and many more links with
transcribed lists
already online at various genealogy websites which are
being collected
and organized on this site.This is a noteworthy list as it brings The Genealogy
Community together topromote free and easy access to sources for genealogists.
The Genealogy
Help Network
http://ghn.genealogy.org
has 'dontated' a
link to our transcribed passenger list The" ERIN 1813,
withseveral more
not online as yet. Please pass this along to another
mailinglist so
that others might learn of this great undertaking!
The Genealogy Help
Network
http://ghn.genealogy.org
Genealogy Help
Network
ICQ#17003442
______________________________
From: Fatarm@aol.comAdd to Address Book Date:
Sat, 14 Nov 1998 10:11:48 EST
Subject:
[CRYAN-L] Crehan To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
Hi. I have just started research on the Crehan
side of the family and =
> don't have too much to go on. Maybe
someone can help. Here's
what I = > know so far:
> My greatgrandfather, Charles Crehan,
is listed on my
grandmother's
birth= > certificate. Her name was Marie Elizabeth Crehan born in
1896 in
= > Pittsburgh, PA. Her mother is listed as Sarah, born Oct.
1878,also in
= > Pittsburgh. Sarah's parents according to her death
certificateare =
> Robert Press and ?? Smith, both born
in Ireland. > I found Sarah's
tombstone in Pittsburgh and buried next to her inthe = > same plot is John Freeman listed as
her brother. I sent for his
death = > certificate and his parents are listed
as Robert Freeman andSusanna = >
Smith, both born in Ireland. > I'm
led to believe that Susanna Smith and ?? Smith are the sameperson,
From: Fatarm@aol.comAdd to Address Book Date:
Sun, 15 Nov 1998 02:04:41 EST Subject:
[CRYAN-L] Re: Crehan To:
CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
Hi,What cemetery
did you search? There are some Crehans in N.S. Catholic
Cemetery in
Pittsburgh. My grandfather, John who was married to Alice
Wadlow, both born
1880 or 1881. I know she was born in Pittsburgh, but
have been unable
to find out if he was. His father, Michael, was born in
? Ireland and
married Margaret Dillon, born in Massachusetts. He was
bornin Oct, 1852
and I have no date for her. Their other children were
William(1877)
whose wife, Henrietta Halloran is buried in N.S. Catholic.
Frank(no date),
Arthur (1883), Harmar James (1886), Mary (1889). My
father, James
Elmer(1908) is buried there. In summary, Michael, John,
Henrietta, and
James are all buried in N.S. Catholic. Wm, died in
Seattle. Mary
disappeared as did Arthur and Harmar James. That is about
all I have been able
to certify. I know that an Andrew Crehan married a
woman named Ellen
and they lived in Pittsburgh. I will do some digging
inmy files and
think I can come up with more on there family. I went to
school with a guy
named Creahan, but never bothered to look for a
connection. Regret
that now.Carole Crehan Wagner cwagner5@juno.com
From: Fatarm@aol.comAdd to Address Book Date:
Mon, 16 Nov 1998 11:40:35 EST
Subject:
[CRYAN-L] Early History of Sligo Crean Family (O'Rorke) part 1 To:
CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
[Passed on by
Caoimhghin:]
History of Sligo - O'Rorke (p. 275-277)
Early History of Sligo Crean Family
It is to be
regretted that there is no list extant of the Priors of HolyCross, some of whom
must have been men worth remembering. In
theabsence ofany record, the writer thinks it may be of use to give here, in
chronologicalorder,
the names of such Priors as he has come across, with a word ortwo of
biography where he
can, leaving to others to add new names, and toenlarge thebiographical
notices. The following are the names he
has met with: -
1. Manus, son of Baethghalach MacEgan, Prior of
Sligo, died, according
to theAnnals of
Loch Ce, in 1411. The name of this prior
does not occur
either inthe Four
Masters or the Hibernia Dominicana.
2. Brian, the son of Dermot McDonogh, as we have
seen, was Prior in
1416,when the
convent was restored after the burning; His name is given in
the FourMasters,
the Annals of Loch Ce, and Hibernia Dominicana.
3. The next prior, we know of is Andrew Crean,
or O'Crean, who from
Prior ofSligo,
became Bishop of Elphin. He was a native
of Sligo, and a member
of themost
distinguished family then in the place after that of the
O'Connors. Theyappear to have settled in Sligo towards
the close of the fifteenth
century;and the
first of this branch of whom we have any record, is Cormac, who
isburied in the
beautiful altar tomb which stands in the nave of thechurch, and
which bears a
Latin inscription, thus rendered by Mr. Langrishe, the
distinguished
architect and antiquary, in the "Kilkenny Journal" of
October,1884:
Hic . jacet . Cormacus. Ocraian .
Et Ehon ac . Nanangasa . uxor.
Eis . an . Do., MCCCCC VI.
Here lieth Cormac O'Craian,
. . . . . . and Nanangasa, his wife,
The year of the Lord, 1506.
Originally of
Tirconnell, where Donnell O'Crean, "a rich, humane
merchant,died
suddenly while hearing mass in the monastery of Donegal, in 1506",
theO'Creans came,
probably in the wake of O'Donnell, to Sligo, where they
devotedthem-selves
successfully to mercantile pursuits, as the Annals of the
FourMasters
record, under the year 1572, the death of Henry O'Crean, "a
rich andaffluent
merchant of Lower Connaught."
It is feared that
other members of the family were not always so
honourablyemployed
as these merchants, for we find "Bishop Crean, of Sleegaugh,"
grantedin 1547, a
fee of 12d, a day for life, by Henry the Eight, which,considering
the date of the
gift and the character of the giver, is, to say theleast, a
suspicious
transaction; while in 1593, another of the family, JamesO'Crean,appears to have
acted as spy for the English authorities against someIrishbishops, including
the Primate, Doctor Magauran. If these men
were asguiltyas they look, the infamy belongs to themselves, and indeed,
[thefamily?]
produced men as
honourable and virtuous as any of their day.
[I'll do my best
to get part 2 posted soon]