From: RuthK3834@aol.comAdd to Address
Book Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 22:37:49 EDT Subject:
[CRYAN-L] For Theresa Mary To:
CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
One of the
surnames I am researching is Cregan.
Some of my Cregan'slived inBrooklyn, NY.
Catherine was the name of my great-grandmother. She had4children that I know of. Patrick, Nellie, Michael, and Catherine. Thespelling means little as so many were
changed when the people emigrated.Perhaps there is a connection.
Ruth in
From: Fatarm@aol.comAdd to Address Book Date:
Fri, 23 Oct 1998 00:10:38 EDT Subject: [CRYAN-L] Mostly chatty, but
information tucked inbetween To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
First, before I
blather as usual, welcome please #33 and #34, a Craneand
anI'm-in-the-dark-as-much-as-everybody-else.
I think I've got anotherCrehaninterested to join in shortly, too. We look forward to hearing from younewbies.Theresa
Mary, I LOVED your email. Did you guys
[this is the genderneutral"guys"] realize that there are now 5 Crehan
researchers on the listwith a 6thto soon join, I believe? Maybe it's time you all reposted your
researchlines. I'm really interested by
this Crehan/Crean changeover, too.When looking over the Crehan info today, I realized
I've been spacingaboutDSchaub1's home county being
withholding
fromyou, so if you haven't yet seen it, look around. No Crehans/Cranes,but youmight want to get in
touch with the researcher:http://www.standard.net.au/~jwilliams/data.htm
Lastly, Kathleen,
you were the one originally interested in Tom CreantheAntarctic explorer,
right? Have you read anything
particularly goodabout himor his adventures?
My reading list is already too long, but I have toadmitthat the radio
program description has whetted my curiosity.
--Leslie
Date:
Tue, 27 Oct 1998 10:29:24 -0600 (CST)
From:
Kathleen A Craine <K-Craine@neiu.edu>Add to Address Book
Subject: Re: [CRYAN-L] "A
Famous Doctor of the Last Century" and admin. items To:
CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
On Mon, 26 Oct
1998 Fatarm@aol.com wrote:
> And I would
like a little advice: I know I have
cousins, first namesall
> unknown,
living in NJ and NY,
the> internet
for Cryans in the NYC area and am contemplating apre-holiday season
> mailing to
these poor unsuspecting folks to see if I can get aresponse with a
>
connection. Has anyone else done a blind
mailing like this? Haveyou had any
> luck or
response with such a course of action?
I'd be interested toknow. --
> Leslie
Leslie:
I've tried this
using emails addresses for another surname in my tree,
andI got about a
30-40% response, none of which were matches.
At least I
wasable to
eliminate some people as being related.
Everyone who responded
was very
courteous--I suppose the people offended just didn't answer.
Kathy
From: Fatarm@aol.comAdd to Address Book
Date:
Wed, 28 Oct 1998 00:00:52 EST
Subject:
[CRYAN-L] Admin and Description of Places associated with
O'Crean family, part 1 To:
CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
Admin and
Description of Places associated with O'Crean family, part 1
________________________
First a little
admin: we lost one subscriber who just
recently joined
butnever posted
his research, unfortunately, but better news follows -- we
gainedanother
Crean researcher who will soon hopefully post the details of her
research.I'm
presently spending most of my time data-entering a Births,
Christenings,and
Marriages index Caoimhghin kindly sent on.
I'm not quite halfway
yet, andit's
humongous. Interestingly enough, it
doesn't list any Creg- or
Creag- orCro-
forms of the O'Creans, yet happily includes Cranes, Crains and
some rarerforms of
O'Crean (such as Crine). I'm not sure
how I'm going to get
the infoto you all
-- but of course I have to finish getting it computerized
before Ican even
think of sending the info round. And
don't worry, I won't
send somemammoth
file through the list which rootsweb is likely to bounce
anyways.Maybe I'll
just do matching locations, surnames or first names on what
folkshave
posted. Of course, if anyone actually
wants it all, I'm happy to
arrangesome way of
sharing (it's Caoimhghin's research, he gets the credits).
Also, as seems the
way of late, the following is due to Caoimhghin:
_________________
[Excerpts from
"Rentals of the Estates of Landed Proprietors of the
The following
lands were held by the O'Crean Family:
[Barony of
Carbury, Parish of Ahamlish; Parish of
Calry;Parish of
Killaspugbrone; Barony of Tirerrill, Parish of Kilmacallan;
andParish of
Killadoon -- I'm only doing the first two tonight.]
Barony of Carbury,
Parish of Ahamlish: Carownogransy; The
inheritance
ofAndrew O'Crean,
who took it in mortdgage from my Lo. of Corke, hee lets
it toundertenatns
for 10 pounds per annum; it is good arrable lande, there
is anold castle
built uppon it, it hath good turffe, 4 dayes mowing, it will
grase50
Parish of
isgood arrable
land a part, it hath a great scope of mounteyne and
fir-wood, andgood
turffe, 3 days mowing; it now grases 100
poundsper
annum. *Ballenogarn*, 4 qrs. The inheritance of Andrew O'Crean
and HenryOge
O'Crean, who setts them to undertenants for 18 pounds a quar. Of
these 4qrs. they have good shelter and good turffe, it
will grase 400
and itis worth 72
pounds per annum. *Lecarownocalry*, 1/2
qr.
From:
"jmitchell" <jmitchell@ameritech.net>Add to Address Book
Date:
Wed, 28 Oct 1998 12:58:02 -0500 Subject: [CRYAN-L] Craigen/Cregan/Creighan from
Hello Leslie Poche
& All,
Thank you for your
referral to this list. I've been focusing on my othersurnames because I'd found
the Irish ones so difficult to trace eventhoughI'm over 75% Irish! The
discovery of a Cryan/Cregan list gives merenewedhope. I know very little about
my Cregan lineage;
Patrick CRAIGEN
(the anglicized spelling, yet I've found recordspertaining
to him or his
family with the spellings - CREGAN & CREIGHAN) was born
about1808
according to the 1871 Lennox & Addington Co.,
Patrick married
Ellen O'NEILL born about 1805 (1871 Census). Theymarriedby 1844 based on the
approximate date of birth of their 1st child,Bridgett. Oral tradition reveals
that Ellen lived at the mouth of theShannon River in County Limerick. Both
Patrick & Ellen are believed tohaveoriginated in Glin, County Limerick
& married there or nearby. Ellen was
married once
before Patrick to Thomas CULHANE also of Glin. Ellen &
Thomashad 1 son
& 2 daughters, names unknown. Their son settled in Oregon.
Patrick emigrated
through NY & onto Ontario, Canada about 1845. Ellenfollowed about 2 years
later. Patrick & Ellen lived for a while inLennox &Addington Co.,
Ontario. Patrick died about 4-4-1906 in Ft. Francis,RainyRiver District,
Ontario, CAN.
Denis CRAIGEN
(Cregan, Creighan), the only other known child besidesBridgett of Patrick &
Ellen, was born May 1845 in Ireland, probablyCountyLimerick. He married Mary
Ellen KENNELLY born about 1848 (1871 Census)inCounty Kerry. Denis & Mary
Ellen married on 1-26-1869 in ErinsvilleParish,Lennox & Addington Co.,
Ont., Canada. Mary Ellen was the daughter ofJeremiah KENNELLY & Ellen
MULVIHILL.
Denis & Mary
Ellen had 7 children & they finally settled in Stratton,Morley Twp., Rainy
River Dst., Ontario, CAN where they died in 1924 &1921respectively.I have
some additional data & ideas but I don't want to make a novelout ofmy first
post!
Thank
you,Jojmitchell@stones.com
jmitchell@ameritech.net
From: Fatarm@aol.comAdd to Address Book Date:
Thu, 29 Oct 1998 00:00:20 EST Subject:
[CRYAN-L] Crohane and Co. Kerry
To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
Hi, gang. I caught an interesting post on a general
search for asurname, andone of the individuals had married a "Crohane
Daly". I wrote to thepost-er to ask
about the use of the Christian name and its origins, if he knew. Hewrote back
the following and is allowing me to post it to this list:
"From what I
know Crohane was a very popular christian name on the
Iveragh Peninsula
(aka ring of kerry) around Cahirdaniel/Castle
Cove/Derrynane
area, which are all in the civil parish of Kilcrohane.
The popularity of
the name may be attributed to the fact that Saint
Crohane is the
patron saint of the parish. The good saint hewed his
hermitage out of
solid rock in nearby Coad and to this day Mass is
celebrated on
Crohane's day, at this site. This year's
Mass was
celebrated on a
beautiful sunny day at the end of July and was well
attended by the
locals as well as the bishop and his staff.
There is also a
Kilcrohane civil parish in Cork, 14 miles sw of Bantry.
Besides Kate's
husband, I know of three other with the christian name of
Crohane.
MacLysaght's
"The Surnames of Ireland"
does not list any
Crohane or Killcrohane or anything remotely resemblingsame.
Richard J.
Gleason"
[this is not quite
correct re: MacLysaght, as those of you who read theposting on MacCroghan etc.
know, but it's not right to look a gifthorse inthe mouth, or however that
saying goes ....]
From:
Julie_Case@prodigy.com (MS JULIA M CASE)Add to Address
Book
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998
21:09:17, -0500
Subject:
RootsWeb Review, Vol. 1, No. 20
To:
RootsWeb-Review@rootsweb.com
ROOTSWEB REVIEW:
Genealogical Data Cooperative News
Vol. 1, No. 20, 28
October 1998; Circulation: 224,200+
Copyright (c) 1998
RootsWeb Genealogical Data Cooperative
Out of sheer
genealogical frustration, some of it centered around
the non-indexed
Morrow County, Ohio 1850 census, I took this
county on and am
more than three-fourths finished with it. Today,
while tearing
along, I got into that meditative census-
transcription
state, and suddenly solved one of my thorniest
problems. How? I
noticed that four women in one township were of
a similar age, had
hauntingly familiar first names, and all came
from New
Hampshire. One of them was the woman whose parents I
sought. The other
three, incredibly, all married men named
GRANDY. I went to
the International Genealogical Index (IGI) and
found that many
GRANDYs were married to BROCKWAYs. I remembered I
had seen Brockways
buried near my mystery woman's daughter. And
bingo! With
confirmation from the Brockway mailing list at
RootsWeb, I have
her parents and, since her dad was a
Revolutionary War
soldier, got generations back to the 1600s. I
would not have
figured this out without the slow trudging that
the transcriptions
require.
It occurred to me
that having the census in database form is very
powerful. Have you
realized you could easily, by importing your
.dbf into another
program, hunt for everybody named Joseph who is
between 12 and 15
years of age? Or everybody from Ireland whose
first name is
John? This would be a way to catch some of your
misspelled and
lost relatives, and another reason to transcribe
the census.
Jane Peppler
<jpeppler@acpub.duke.edu>
[Jane Peppler is a
USGenWeb Archives Census Project volunteer.
The foregoing is
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From: Fatarm@aol.comAdd to Address Book
Date:
Thu, 29 Oct 1998 00:23:22 EST
Subject:
[CRYAN-L] Lands held by the O'Crean Family, Part 2
To:
CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
(Last of this
source -- some of you may recognize the place names,
others maynot be
able to link to these places)
- - - - - - - - -
- - - - - - - - - - - -
Parish of Calry -
*Cartronnogrogagh*, [footnote: In the parish of
Ahamlishthere is a
townland named Grogagh] 1/4; sett to undertenants for 5
pounds perannum,
and all countrey chardges ... and is worth 7 pounds 11 shillings
perannum. Lecarownotullagha, 1/2 qr.; worth 9 pounds
per annum.
Clogherbeg, 1qr.;
... It is some rockey grounde, it hath good shelter, and good
tuffe, 6dayes
mowinge, it will grase 100 cowes, and is worth 20 pounds per
annum.Cloghermore,
1 qr.; ... set to undertenants for 17 pounds per annum and
country chardges,
with 4 barrells of malt, 8 fatt muttons, 12 medders of
butter, 24 medders
of meale, the third parte to be wheat, a chosher at
Christmas. It is some parte rockey ground, it hath good
shelter, and
goodturffe, 5
dayes mowinge, it will grase 100 cowes, and is worth 20
pounds
perannum. *Colgoder* [Probably Colgagh],
1/2 qr.; worth 10 pounds 4
shillingsper
annum. Kineltin, 1 qr.; it is worth 20
pounds per annum.
Carignogroagh,1/4
qr.; worth 6 pounds 10 shillings per annum.
*Lecarowclunestallan*,
1/2qr.; Annagh
(now Hazlewood), 1 qr.; *Killbride*, 1 qr.; These 3 qrs.
and 1/2(?) is the
inheritance of Andrew O'Crean, Esq., whoe setts them to
undertenants for
40 pounds per annum and 10 barrells of malt, 10
muttons,
100workmen, 20 medders of butter, 40 medders of meale; it is some part good
arrable land, hath
good turffe and shelter and heathy grounde, it will
grase200 cowes,
and it is worth 49 pounds 13 shillings per annum.
*Lissacopan*
and*Carrownoughter*, 5 cartrons; ... set to undertenants for 21 pounds per
annum... it is
good arrable land, it hath good turffe, 5 days mowinge, it
willgrase 120
cowes and it is worth 25 pounds per annum.
Srabraghan [now
writtenRathbraghan],
1 qr.; Saununighteragh, 1 qr.; sett to undertenants for 32
pounds per
annum. It is all good arrable land,
uppon the qr. of
Shrabraghanther is
a good English mill, one of the best in the country: for duties
hegetts in these 2
qrs. 8 barrells of malt, 16 medders of butter, 32
medders ofmeale, 8
fatt muttons, 40 workmen. It hath good
turffe, 12 days mowing
ofgood low meddow,
it will grase 120 cowes and is worth 38 pounds per
annum.
Parish of
Killaspugbrone. - Gransagh, 4 qrs.; John O'Crean ... bought
it fromSr. Robert
Kinge, Knt.; it is all good arrable land, and some heathy
ground,it hath
good turffe and meaddowes; the said John getts in these 4 qrs.
the somof 16
barrells of malt, 16 fatt muttons, 16 medders of butter, 64
medders ofmeale, 8
workmen; it will grase 400 cowes, and it is worth 100 pounds
perannum.
Barony of
Tirerrill, Parish of Kilmacallan - Arkneskin, 1 qr.; ... it
is aspongey ground
and great store of heath ... it hath a weare of Eeles
upponUnshinagh.
Parish of
Killadoon - Moore, 1/2 qr. (now Ballindoon); ... it hath good
turffeand (a) good
spring with a mill uppon it ... and is worth 7 pounds per
annumby reason of
the burialls in the Abbey and the benefitt of the mill.
Reply-To: "Family History" < >
From: "Family History" <
>Add to Address Book
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 13:47:51 -0000
Subject: [CRYAN-L] BOYLE - Part 2 To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
Extract from the
Parliamentary Gazeteer for 1842-4
Boyle Town Public Buildings
The old bridge of
Boyle, situated nearly in the middle of the town,consistsof 5 rather low
arches; and has , on its upper side , within a strongcageof palisade work, and
on a low pedestal, a statue of William III . Thenewbridge, situated 500 yards
lower down, between the barrack and theabbey,consists of a single arch. The new
sessions-house stands on the slopeof thehill, fronting the street which runs
from the southend of the oldbridge,
and was built at
an estimated expense of £800 to the county, aided by£500
and a free site
from Lord Lorton. The old session-house , a decayededificein the street or road
which passes the barrack, serves for the uses oftheSavings'-bank, the
Charitable Loan office, the infants-schools, andpublicmeetings for charitable
and religious purposes. the bridewell (jail) isattached to the new sessions-house,
and was built at an estimated
expense of£1039
17s 19d.; it contains 2 day-rooms, 8 cells, and 2 yards; but is
keptin an
irregular and filthy state, and has a pressing need for reform.The
barrack was
originally the residence of the Earl of Kingston. Theparishchurch,(CoI) , situated somewhat on
the crest of the hill on the northsideof the town, and on the old road to
Sligo, is a capacious building, ingoodorder, but exhibits little archetectural
taste. The Roman CatholicChapel isvery plain, though large structure.
The Abbey:
The ruins of Boyle
Abbey are situated in an enclosure about 100 yardsnorth-north-west of the new
bridge, and almost close to the new road toSligo. The best view of them from
ithout the enclosure , is obtainednearthe entrance-gate of the house of Lord
Lorton's agent, and is thusdescribedby Mr Weld: "The part seen here
consists entirely of the church andsteeple,
the latter rising
in the centre, the north transept extending to theleft,and the nave of the
church to the right, under an angular point ofview. Nospacious or ornamented
windows are observable, neither is thereintricacy orvariety in the parts; but
the general effect of the ruins is solemn andimposing, and the lofty vaults of
the circular arches in three of thesidesof the steeple soaring above the tops
of the adjacent trees ,communicateand air of grandeur to the edifice, which
otherwise it might not beconsidered to possess.
The steeple is a square tower of about 25feetin theinterior, rudely
built in the upper parts andterminating abruptly.An abundance of ivy fringes
the summit of the walls; and, although thetreeswhich shade the ruin are neither
very large nor old, yet they aredisposedin a manner which contributes
essentially to the embellishment of thescene."The views within the
enclosure are of an altogether different characterfromthat on the outside, and
possess in the aggregate a large degree of
interest; but they
comprise too many details to be of succinct notice.The Church is cruciform, and
measures from east to west 131 feet, with abreadth of 25, and from north to
south, or along the transepts,50 feet,witha breadth of 22. the western window
was a single, small lancet-shapedopening, with carvings,now much worn on the
exterior; and the eastern
windowconsists of
three lancet-shaped compartments, theone of which waslarger than the others.In
the north side of the nave is the burying-vault of the King family,enclosed by
a railing.The abbey , though a fine building , never possessed some features
ofarchitectural excellence ascribed to it by Archdall and the editor
ofGrose,and differs sowidely from the account of it given by these writers as
torender their descriptions mere fancy-writing or caricature.It belonged to the
Cistertian order of St Bernard. Peter Mordha, itsfirst
abbot, and
reputedly a man of great learning, was promoted to the see ofClonfert, and in
1171, was drowned in the Shannon. Yet theestablishment, asit existed under him,
was founded in 1148, at a place calledGrollechdina;and, as Boyle Abbey, it was
founded in 1161 by his successor, as anoffset,or daughter of the abbey of
Mellifont. So at least says the HiberniaDominicana; which, however is not much
to be trusted, and which treats
us toa long detail
of annals, containing hardly a line worth quoting.In 1603, the abbey, with some
of its largest estates, was granted to SirJohn King, the ancestor of the Earl
of Kingston and Lord Lorton.
End of Part 2
, to come - Poor Law Union etc, Trade,
Municipal Affairs,
Statistics.
I do hope that all
this typing is worth it and someone is receivingthis. Itis a little like
casting a bottle with a message into the ocean andhoping!!!!!!Please do react -
is it boring , useful ,interesting, irrelevant, a sideissue, or even, as I find
it , quite fascinating to hear a contemporaryaccount ???This is now too long
for one posting, Cherio for now, Eve
From:
Crogmos@aol.comAdd to Address Book
Date:
Thu, 29 Oct 1998 10:53:46 EST Subject: [CRYAN-L] Croghan references 1851
census ( Norfolk, Devon and
Warwickshire ) To:
CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
I have just
acquired this census on CD rom and carried out a search forCrighans and related
names, here is what I found :-
Mary Anne Crogham,
age 15 ,nursery maid in the household of the Earl of
Leicester, Holkham
Norfolk.born Shobdon, Hereford.
Thomas Crogan,
Head, M, age 40 Pensioner from the army, born Ireland
Margret Rose
Crogan, Wife age20, Born Ireland.
Elizabeth Crogan,
daughter, age 1, Born Birmingham Warks.
Living at 1court,
7 house Cheapside, St. Martin Birmingham.
Luke Crogan
lodger, age35. agricultural labourer, born Ireland. Living
atCourt17 No
2Great Hampton Street, Birmingham.
Edward Crohen
Head, age52, Labourer, Born Ireland
Catherine Crohen
wife Age46 , born Ireland
Patt Crohen, son
age14, Metal roller, born Ireland
Mary Crohen
daughter, age12, Pearl button maker, born Ireland
Edward Crohen son
,age 9, Pearl button maker. born Ireland
All living at No 4
house No 31 Court, Livery Street, Birmingham
Phillippa Crogan
Head Married, age36 born Grampound Cornwall
Edwin Crogan son,
age9, scholar, born Devonport, Devon.
Ann M. Crogan
daughter, age 7 Scholar, born Devonport Devon.
Perhaps this
information could be useful, I have the folio numbers if
needed.Best wishes
Pat Moseley
From: "Cook, Jonathan A (HUK)"
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Book
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998
10:59:34 -0600
Subject:
[CRYAN-L] CRYAN IN CO. SLIGO
To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
INFORMATION HELD
BY MYSELF:
PARISH OF TOOMOUR
(KEASH), CO. SLIGO
TAKEN FROM 1901
CENCUS
TOWNLAND HEAD OF HOUSEHOLD FIRST
Broher 1. John Cryan age 24
Bridget
Cryan age 21 sister
2. Patrick Cryan age 65
Mary Cryan age 12 daughter
3. Michael Cryan age 45
Kate
Cryan age 44 wife
Mary
Anne age 7 daughter
4. Margaret Cryan age 74
James
Cryan age 31 son
Michael
Cryan age 30 son
Ann
Cryan age 28 daughter
5. James Cryan age 84
Agatha
Cryan age 67 wife
Andrew
Cryan age 36 son
Dernaskeagh 1. Honour Cryan age 80
Margaret Cryan age 70
Cletty 1. Thomas Cryan age 60
Mary Cryan age 50 wife
Carrowcrory 1. John Cryan age 45
Ann Cryan (Taheny) age 48
(Married 1872)
2. Bridget Cryan age 70
Mathew
Cryan age 39 son
Mary Cryan age 30 daughter
3. Michael Cryan age 80 (died1905)
Catherine Cryan age 70
John
(Big) age 45 (was Justice of the
Peace)
Winifred Cryan age 27
4. Patrick Cryan age 70
5. Mary Cryan age 85 mother
John Cryan
age 62 son
Bridget
Cryan age 56daughter-in-law (single
name also Cryan)
Pat
Cryan age 21grandchild
Mary
Cryan age 16 granchild
6. Mary Cryan age 65
Michael
Cryan age 28 son
Derrygolagh 1. Patrick Cryan age 63
Mary
Cryan age 53 wife
Bridget
Cryan age 22 daughter
Pat
Cryan age 19 son
Thomas
Cryan age 17 son
2. Ceceila Cryan age 69
Bridget
Cryan age 42 daughter
Norra
Cryan age 26 daughter
3. Martin Cryan age 85 (Weaver)
4. Patrick (Strong) Cryan age 75
John
Cryan age 35 son
James
Cryan age 30
Elenor
Cryan age 25
5. Mathew Cryan age 70
Catherine Crayn (McDonnagh) age60 wife
Mathew
Cryan age 30 son
Kate
Cryan age 26 daughter
6. Patrick (Gildea) Cryan age 66
Annie
Cryan (O'Connor) age 55wife
John
Cryan age 27 son
James Cryan age 23 son
Rodger
Cryan age 20 son
Jane
Cryan age 14 daughter
Anne
Cryan age 12 daughter
Tully 1. Patrick Cryan age 23
Michael
Cryan age 19 brother
(died
21/6/1940 Sligo MentalHospital)
Daniel
Cryan age 15 brother
Joseph
Cryan age 12 brother
Jane
Cryan age 22 sister
Elizabeth Cryan age 17 sister
N.B. All above are children of
Pat Cryan and Ann
Kielty of Knockbrack
2. Michael Cryan age 44
Margaret Cryan age 30 wife
Dan
Cryan age 2 son
Margaret Cryan age 5 daughter
Beezy
Cryan age 40 sister
Tonaonra 1. John Cryan age 56
Mary Cryan age 50 wife
John
Cryan age 25 son -died 31/8/1938
Mary
Anne Cryan age 22 daughter
Henry
Cryan age 15 son
Delia
Cryan age 13 daughter
Norra
Cryan age 4
Carrowreagh 1. Martin Cryan age 47
Mathew
Cryan age 13 son
Thomas
Cryan age 11 son
Bridget
Cryan age 4 daughter
Mary
Cryan age 9 daughter
Martin
Cryan age 2 son
Maggie
Cryan age 32 wife
PARISH OF DRUMRAT
TAKEN FROM 1901
CENCUS
TOWNLAND HEAD OF HOUSEHOLD FIRST
Killsalagh 1. Thomas Cryanage 54
(ParentsPat
Cryan & Mary Killgran)
MargaretCryan (McGlynn) age 50 wife
JamesCryan age 27 son
MaryCryan age 20
daughter
PatrickCryan age 13 son
2. MaryCryan (Cook) age 65
Listrush 1. Catherine Cryanage 40
(Wife ofJohn Mullowney)
2. BridgetCryan age 80
Clooncaltry 1. Patrick Cryan age 50
Catherine Cryan (Callaghais) age 50 wife
MaryAnne Cryan age 17 daughter
KateCryan age 15 daughter
PatCryan age 13 son
JohnCryan age 11 son
AnnHiggins age 60 ?
Daughloonagh 1. James Cryanage 35
MaryCryan (Breheny) age 35
wife
BridgetCryan age 12 daughter
KateCryan age 11 daughter
JohnCryan age 10 son
Knockbrack 1. Pat Cryanage 52
(ParentsDaniel Cryan & Mary Breheny of Tully)
AnnCryan age 50 wife
JohnCryan age 15
son
Patrick Cryans
From: "Cook, Jonathan A (HUK)"
<cookja3@texaco.com>Add to Address
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Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998
11:01:51 -0600 Subject:
[CRYAN-L] RECORDS HELD BY MYSELF To:
CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
RECORDS HELD BY
MYSELF
Deaths in Ireland
for Cryan's 1864-1901
Marriages in Ireland
for Cryan's 1864-1901
Tithe Applotment
Records for the Parishes of Drumrat, Toomore, Killfree,
Kilcolman for
Cryan's.
Cencus of 1911 for
Cryan's in Carrowcrory, Broher, Derrygolagh, Tully
Griffith's
Valuation of Ireland for Cryan's in Co. Sligo
Reference my own
family they emigrated to Glasgow and did not return.
I obtained their
original home County from the 1881 Cencus returns of
Glasgow.
The "s"
was put on our name in error by a Belgium Priest in Glasgow.
Judge is the
English equivalent of Breheny which some of the Irish used,
and this is where
the Owen came in, I believe.
Regarding the
Deaths of Pat Cryan you sent:
1892 Culfadda, Drumrat - Sligo
1883 Broher, Keash - Sligo
1891 Ardmoyle, Ballinameen - Roscommon
Patrick Cryans
From: "Cook, Jonathan A (HUK)"
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Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998
11:04:13 -0600
Subject:
[CRYAN-L] DANIEL CRYAN/MARGARET McDONNAGH
To:
CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
Information held by
myself:
Two of his sons
resided in Glasgow, Scotland last century.
From my
records the
following are selected:
* JOHN CRYAN
b.1835 approx
m.1859 Glasgow
(Paisley)
d.1877 Glasgow
Wife Mary Christie
Children - Mary Cryan 1860 15 June
Margaret Cryan 1862 5 March
Daniel Cryan 1863 12 December
Patrick Cryan 1866 17 March
Henry Cryan 1868 25 March
John Cryan 1870 25 April
Catherine Cryan 1872 27 August
* BROTHER - MARTIN
b. 4 August 1823
Wife Mary Leonard
Children - John Cryan 1853
Michael Cryan 1856
Martin Cryan 1861
Mary Cryan 1864
Martin and his family left
Glasgow for Dakota in 1874
NOTE: Daniel Cryan
of Tully was married to Mary Breheny
Patrick Cryans
From: "Cook, Jonathan A (HUK)"
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Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 11:06:00
-0600
Subject:
[CRYAN-L] 1885 landholders of viscount Lorton
To:
CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
1885 LAND HOLDERS
OF VISCOUNT LORTON
CARROWCRORY Daniel Cryan
Pat
"
Michael "
Mary "
Bridget "
Michael "
John "
BROHER Thomas "
Pat "
Mary "
James "
P. "
J. "
DERRYGOLAGH Martin "
James "
Pat "
Pat "
Mathew "
TULLY Pat "
Daniel "
TONAPONRA Mathew "
TUMORE P Cryne
Patrick Cryans
From: "Cook, Jonathan A (HUK)"
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Thu, 29 Oct 1998 11:20:13 -0600
Subject:
[CRYAN-L] INFO REGARDING CRYANS OF
TONAPONRA
To:
CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
Regarding the
Cryan's of Tonoponra they don't appear on the Tithe
Applotment records
1830/34 so they must have moved between then and 1858
(Griffith's
Valuation) from the Keash area.
1901 Cencus
extract for the above:
John Cryan Head Age 56 Died 20/9/1928
Mary Cryan
(O'Neill) Wife Age 50 Died 28/9/1912
John Cryan Son Age 25 Died 31/8/1938
Mary Anne Cryan
Daughter Age 22 Died 5/9/1937
Henry Cryan Son Age 15
Delia Cryan Daughter Age 13
Nora Cryan Daughter Age 4
Other sources for Tonoponra:
Martin Cryan Died 3/12/1921 age 38
Stephen Cryan Died 5/5/1987 age 69
* I believe one of
the following could be his father
Mathew Cryan b.1811 died 1891 age 80
Mathew Cryan b. 1818 died 1898 age 80
Church of
Bonninadan Tobercurry:
Marriage 10th May
1874
John Cryan Age 27
Origin Knopora Parents Mathew
Mary O'Neill Age 21
Origin Dacloon Parents
Arthur
Patrick Cryans
From: ljstandak@webtv.net (Lyle Staehnke)Add
to Address Book
Date:
Thu, 29 Oct 1998 15:15:32 -0800 (PST)
Subject:
[CRYAN-L] RE:Danial Cryan wife Margaret McDonagh
To:
CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
Jonathan Cook,,
What a gold mine of information you shared with us..Ithank you very much,you
evidently have done a lot of research,I don`tknow if you read my web page or
not (http://members.tripod.com/~havana_2/index.html ) but I also mention
Johnand Martin Cryan of Glasgow Scotland.. Their Dad Danial is my
GreatGrandfather.. And I`m still in the process of trying to find out
exactlywhere they lived in Ireland and what year they left..They settled
inMorrisburgh Canada (Ontario) that is they were in the 1850 census there
also 1861,1871
then in 1881 a little North of there in Osnabruck..Ihaven`t been able to find a
date of death for Danial either orlocation...If you run across any more info on
them,I would be veryinterested... Thanks again
Lyle
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>Add to Address Book
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 09:56:14 -0000
Subject: [CRYAN-L] New Info on Keash
To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
Hi Patrick,
Thank you so much
for all the information that you sent yesterday. Itlooksto be priceless
treasure and will serve well for linking all the familygroups. You must have
been researching for a long time and have somegoodcontacts for advice. I am so
eager to get at the parish records, whichwillgive the generation before the
ones listed or at least the births of
thoseaged about 60
and their parents. to quote/ misquote: - "one small step for history but
one giant leapforcryankind"Thank you , Eve
From: Fatarm@aol.comAdd to Address Book Date:
Fri, 30 Oct 1998 12:26:40 EST To:
caoimhghin@yahoo.com
Subject:
Mormon printout
That's okay -- I
was hoping I didn't have to put in the rest of thedates, andas I can't see any
point, I'll skip it. I'm becoming
wayyyyy behind,especially with the flurry of postings of late. But I suppose it wouldbe abad idea to ask
folks to slow down, huh? ;)Michael Tobin
wrote to me that he got involved with researching hisCryan lineafter the death
of his father, too. It's interesting how
death seemsto causea lot of us to seek a connection with our past. I've learned so muchwhiledoing this research
I'm half angry at myself for not having begun
sooner.Both my
grandfathers died young and suddenly before I was born -- I was
about30 years old
when I first saw a photo of the one and asked who he was.
Myfamily tends not
to talk of painful things, but as a result, I don'tknow
either of my
genetic grandfathers at all.Between learning of my grandfathers as I interview
family members,learningwhat it means to be an IRISH RC (I think most Irish
would laugh at meif theysaw me calling myself that-I grew up in a Jewish
neighborhood andidentified
myself as Irish RC
to avoid being yelled at for not knowing yiddish andplaying outside on
Saturdays), and learning about my husband'sprotestantroots, I think I'm
learning who I am more than learning about myancestorssometimes. Not a bad idea for a descendant of the Cryan,
Murphy,Kiernan,Kennedy, and Smyth families, huh?
By the way, since
you're an expert, is it *wrong* to refer to the Irishlanguage as gaelic? I got reemed-out a bit by that Crohane Daly
guy formaking a reference to gaelic. He
didn't take to me in general, andbasicallytold me I was clueless if MacLysaght
didn't clear up the confusion inoursurname.
Just thought I'd try and get my language a little moreprecise ....
Leslie
From: Fatarm@aol.comAdd to Address Book
Date:
Fri, 30 Oct 1998 13:06:17 EST Subject: [CRYAN-L] Locations being researched,
admin, and Digest mode To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
A new joinee, and
experienced researcher and mailing list administrator,suggested I update the
taglines with some of the locations we areresearchingin Ireland. While I think I managed to squeeze most of
the Irelandlocationsinto one tagline (size is limited to three lines, 72
columns), I begantorealize that I don't have locations for everyone's
ancestors. I placed
allthe North
Americans in another group, and the elsewhere in the worldfolks inyet another.
For those of you with Welsh, Scottish, and
Australian locations,couldyou be more specific about where? And although I noted "Roscommon"
forseveral researchers, I didn't note townlands or parishes for most ofyou,
soplease resend. I'll try and put
together a better list to post here sothatwe can skip the taglines (they're
small and a pain to update
constantly).And,
in case it isn't clear, taglines are
those messages at the end of
postings. Please also keep an eye out for the
surname listing tagline -- ifI'vemissed your spelling on a surname, please let
me know. This is onethat isimportant to
keep updated!
I've really enjoyed the listings on Boyle
and Sligo over the pastweek.I really enjoy reading "original" sources
such as the description onBoyle,Eve, so don't hesitate to post such things. It's a nice break fromnames anddates. Not that anything's wrong with names and
dates .... the Sligolistingsare more than welcome!! Thanks for sharing so much data,
Patrick. Andnowthat I've read your
explanation of the CryanS, I'm thrilled that you
sharedthe story of
how the S got appended to your ancestor's surname (I'llupdate
the surname
tagline soon). Please welcome
subscribers #37 and #38. However, about
10 folkshave yetto post their research line, interests or stuck-at points. And, for those of you concerned about the
explosion in ourmailboxes oflate, there is another way to receive the mailing
list -- as bundles ofemail,called digests or digest mode. Instead of receiving individual
emails,several are bound together based on size and time. For example, let's
say twoemails get
sent one day to the list that are each 8K -- they'd arrivein yourmailbox as one
piece of mail. If, however, only one
piece of mail getssentduring a three day period, you get it at the end of that
periodregardless ofthe size of the emails accumulated. Some folks find it a moreconvenient wayto
receive talkative lists. They are
labeled as volumes (we're in vol.98because of the year), and the messages are
numbered as well as subject
line'd. To change to digest mode, subscribe to
Cryan-D: send email to"Cryan-D-
request@rootsweb.com"
with the sole word "subscribe" in the messagebody (allwithout
quotes). Once you have received your
subscription confirmationfromthe rootsweb server, then unsubscribe from
Cryan-L: send email
to"Cryan-L-request@rootsweb.com" with the sole word
"unsubscribe" in the messagebody(again, all without quotes). Or, of course, you can just email me andask
meto do it ... ugh, manually ... not to influence your choice or anything ;)
--Leslie
From: RuthK3834@aol.comAdd to Address
Book Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 13:18:52 EST
Subject: [CRYAN-L] Relisting for
the Newbies To
CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
Hi all,My name is
Ruth and I am researching both Cregan and Regan. Catherine Cregan born about
1843 in Ireland. Died in NYC in 1917She
had four children: Patrick born in Limerick in 1862. Died in NYC in1911.Nellie
born in Limerick in about 1870. Married John Regan in about1884. Shehad two sons. John and Edmund. She died in April of 1945
Michael Cregan
born in Limerick. He married a lady
named Mary. Livedin theEast 90's in Manhattan, NYCCatherine Cregan daughter,
married a Tierney and lived in Brooklyn, NY
James O'Regan born
in Castlelyons, County Cork, Ireland in about 1796.He was
a stonemason by
trade. His wife was Hannorah, born about 1797 in thesamearea. They lived in Saugerties, NY with their
daughter Hannorah andtheir sonJohn. John was a stonemason as well. He dropped the O and became JohnRegan.
Nellie Cregan was
his second wife. He was originally
married toBridget Barry
of Watergrasshill,
County Cork, Ireland.
==== CRYAN Mailing
List ====
Areas in Eire
being researched: Bandon and Glounthaune, Cork;
Castlebar, Mayo;
Wexford; Dingle Peninsula; Caherciveen, Kerry; Glin,
Limerick; Donegal;
Nenagh, Tipperary; Ballybane, Galway; Keash, Sligo;
Co. Rosc.
Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 08:08:50 -0800 (PST)
From:
Caoimhghin O Croidheain <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>Add to
To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Unidentified subject!
hiStill havnt got
all full refs but for those interested in early Creans:
Dermot Mac Dermot
'Mac Dermot of Moylurg: The Story of a Connacht
Family'Drumlin
Publs., Nure, Manorhamilton, Co. Leitrim pp.394-6 (no
year)3 full pages
on creans
Thomas S. Flynn
O.P. 'The Irish Dominicans 1536-1641'
(Andrew o'crean
Bishop 1562-94 and the conflict of ecclesiastical
jurisdictions)pp
63-67
Members interests
Directory 1992 issn 079-7503Irish Family History
Society po box 36,
Naas co Kildare
refs for crine
/crean/ crian
sli 1825p 678
ros 1825p 678
eng 1825p Lancashire 678
page no's I
presume??
Caoimhghin O
Croidheain
Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 09:49:06 -0800 From:
Kay Frith Allen <fullspec@sunset.net>Add to Address Book
Subject:
[CRYAN-L] CREGAN
To:
CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
Hi,
So glad this list
was started. I am having a very
difficult timetrying tofind info on my Cregan ancestors. This is all I know at the present:My
ggrandfather, James Cregan b. 1853 Ireland (Londonderry, I think)cameto America
in 1890 with his wife, Bridget Mary Manley Cregan, and fouryoung children,
James, Catherine, Margaret, and Mary.
They had livedin
Liverpool, England
prior to immigrating.....all the children were bornthere. They settled in Chicago where a relative of
Bridget lived, aJohnMelvin (Bridget's mother's maiden name). A fifth child,
Thomas Cregan,wasborn in Chicago in 1891.
Bridget died in 1894 and the children wereplacedin orphanages or other
homes. That's where I lost track of all
the
children until
they were adults.I would like to find out where James was born and who his
parents werebutI'm not very proficient at searching in Ireland and I don't have
a lot
of$$$ to spend on
professional researchers. Kay
Allenfullspec@sunset.net
Chico, CA
From: "Roger Cryan and Regina
Pana-Cryan" <cryan@avana.net>Add to
Address Book Date:
Sun, 1 Nov 1998 10:59:55 -0500 Subject: [CRYAN-L] From Sligo to Boyle in
1850's To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
This is my first
posting, although Caoimhghin O Croidheain (KevinCryan)
sent in the
following on my family:
Roger Cryan
Email:
cryan@avana.net
James Cryan m.(m.c.1853) Honoria Byrne,
Children- Mchael
(b.1854, Boyle >USA), James (b.1859, Boyle), John
(b.1865, Boyle),
John (b.1866, Boyle), Martin (b.1861 or 67, Boyle
>USA), Brigid
(b.1856, Boyle) and Mary Jane (b.1869, Boyle)
Here are some
additional details:
The 1853 marriage
of James Cryan and Honoria (Honora) Byrne (Bierne)(alternate spellings in
alternate documents) was in the Kilfree andKilaragt R.C. Parish of County
Sligo, which was much larger that it isnow.
The children were,
it seems, born in Boyle parish, Ballinanultaghtownland,and the name is still on
the farm (although through a complicatedpassing-down to distant (?)
relatives). According to relatives of
the present holder of the land, my great-great-grandfather James came
toBallinulty (another alternate spelling) from County Sligo with theRorke
family. The dates of the marriage and the baptisms
suggest the movewasmade in 1853 or 1854.
Ballinanulty is only a few miles from the Sligoline, so the move might
have been a big one or a small one.
My great
grandfather Martin Cryan, his brother Michael Cryan, and hissister Mary Jane
all came to Lowell, Massachusetts, although Mary Janereturned to Boyle. Both Martin and Michael had numerous
children.My grandfather also remembered an Aunt Delia in Lowell, although
shedoesn't seem to match up with the rest.
James inherited the farm and married a Cryan from Sligo and had
nochildren. John never married.Brigid (I think) married a man named Welsh and
moved to the North.Mary Jane (I think) never married.
I won't detail any
more generations, for the privacy of the living; ifyou're looking to find a
connection through the Lowell Cryans, pleasecontact me directly.
THE NEXT STEP (OR
CAN SOMEONE HELP ME?)
I don't know where
these Cryans came from in Sligo, which might leadbackto previous
generations. There are at least two
possible sources forthisinformation:
1. Paddy Rorke, who was living in Boyle in 1997,
is the grandson (?)
of
the Rorke (the
first name is on the 1857 Griffith's valuation for
Ballinulty along
with James Cryan; I have it but can't find it right
now)who came to
Boyle with James Cryan. He might know
something about
this; ifsomeone
comes across him, please ask him.
2. The estate records for the Viscount Lorton
for 1853-54. I can only
assume, based on
the large size of Lorton's estate (which covered most
ofnorth Roscommon
and large areas of Sligo and Leitrim) that James
Cryan'sparents were
also his tenants, and that some record of the origin of
JamesCryan or his
compatriot Rorke is made in the estate records.
The 1857
Griffith's
valuation suggests that Rorke and Cryan each held an
individualtenancy
and that they shared another. If anyone
(Kevin?) is looking
through the Lorton
estate records, please see if there is anything on
thismove. This could tie my branch into big tree that
someone has
discussedputting
together to see where we all fit.
I hope some of
this has been of help to others, and that someone can
tellme a thing or
two. Familially
yours, Roger Cryan
Date: Sun, 01 Nov 1998 16:53:55 -0500 From:
Dana Puopolo <puopolo@cris.com>Add to Address Book Subject: [CRYAN-L] Patrick Cryan family-Sligo>MA,USA To:
CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
Hi. I am pretty new to the list. My Cryans also came from Co. Sligo.
This is my info-
Patrick S. Cryan
b. Mar. 1, 1870 in Co. Sligo came to Swampscott, MA,
USA in 1879. D. Aug. 3, 1949.
He married Nora Drislane and had Mary E. Cryan
b. 1905, John Stephen
Cryan b. 1902,
Patrick H. Cryan, and Henry Cryan.
John Stephen
Cryan, my ggrandfather, m. Margaret Daugherty.
Their
children were
Barbara Cryan b. 1931 d/ 1983 and Marjorie Cryan.
Barbara Cryan m.
Angelo Valentino Puopolo.
My family says
that we have cousins in Lowell, MA, which is about 2 hrs
away, but no one
seems to quite know how they are related.
I haven't
ever met any of
these people.On another note, I have found somewhere that Crynes, Crean,
Creaghan,O'Crean and Crehan are all forms of Cryan.Thanks,
Erica
puopolo@cris.com
From: Voltene@aol.comAdd to Address Book
Date:
Sun, 1 Nov 1998 20:10:16 EST Subject: [CRYAN-L] Martin Cryan of Lowell
MA To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
Martin Cryan, according to his
naturalization US Circuit Court,
Boston, MA, 24
Oct. 1889,
Occupation- grocer
Born
Co. Roscommon, Ireland
Date of Birth, 16 June 1864
Arrived Boston, on or about
19 March 1882
------His actual
arrival Boston, MA 31 March 1883 at age 19, on"Palastine"
------------------
First mention of
Martin Cryan in the Lowell, MA City directories was
1884 Cryan, Martin, clerk at 48 River St., boards 50 RiverSt.
1885 Cryan, Bros. (Martin and Michael), grocers and
provisions,189
Market St.
1881 Cryan, John M., clerk at 50 River St., boards 50 River St
------------------
On 12 Sept. 1893, Martin Cryan married Margaret
Maloney.(Moloney)
Lowell Daily Courier, Thursday 14 Sept. 1893
Martin Cryan and
Margaret A. Maloney were united in marriage on Tuesday
afternoon at St.
Peter's parsonage. P.F. Cox was best man
and MissBridget
Farrell was
bridemaid. There was a reception at the
home of thebride'sparents, 30 Whipple
Street.
--------
Obituary
Lowell Sun, 27 Mar 1936
Martin Cryan, widely known merchant,
died this morning at hishome, 90
White street, following a long illness. Mr. Cryan was a member ofSt.Rita's Church
and a resident of the Pawtucketville section of the cityforover 60 years. He leaves his wife, Margaret A. Moloney
Cryan; two daughters,
Mrs.Ralph Corkran
and Miss Margaret G. Cryan, a supervisor at the N.E. Tel.
andTel. Co.; three
sons, John J. , Martin C., and James P.
Cryan, local
electrician; two
sisters, Mrs. George (Delia) Kinney and
Miss Jane Cryan; a
brother, James
Cryan, both of Ireland. The body was taken to the
O'Connell funeral
home, Westford street.
--------------
a little note, Delia is a nickname for Bridget
---------------
Obituary
Lowell Sun, 25 Apr. 1947
Mrs. Margaret (Moloney) Cryan, widow of Martin Cryan and alifelong
resident of this
city, a member of St. Rita's church
since itsinception and
formerly residing
at 90 White street, Pawtucketville, died last nightafter a
short
illness. Born in Lowell, she was the daughter of the latePatrick and
Mary (Caffrey)
Moloney. She was a graduate of
the Lowell schools and Notre Dame academy.
She is survived by three sons,
John J. Cryan, of Lowell, Martin
C.Cryan of Saugus
and James P. Cryan of Lowell; two daughters, Mrs. Ralph
Cockran and Miss
Margaret G. Cryan, both of this city; sixgrandchildren and
several nieces and
nephews.
----------------------
Obituary
Lowell Sun Tuesday 3 June 1941
Mrs. Delia (Cryan) Kinney, a well known member of the Sacred
Heartparish, died
Monday at her home, 12 Anderson
St.Court. Born in
Ireland, shewas
the daughter of the late James and the late Honor (Berne) Cryan.
Comingto this
country about 60 years ago, she settled in this city where she
hasalways made her
home. She was a member of the Holy
Rosary Sodality of
theSacred Heart
parish.
She is survived by three daughters, Mrs.
Thomas F. Keane and
Mrs. JohnMcGuigan,
both of this city, Mrs. William J. Burns
of Fort Devens, and
oneson, George P. Kinney of Lynn, two brothers in Ireland, 10
grandchildrenand
two grear grandchildren
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Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 11:24:54 -0000
Subject: [CRYAN-L] BOYLE town - Part 3
To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
Please note 1.
that the Poor Law Union area was the same as the
RegistrationDistrict.
Therefore a person registered in "Boyle" could well live in
any ofthe parishes
mentioned ie in Co Sligo, Co Mayo, Co
Leitrim or even Co
Roscommon.2. that
20s = £1 and 12d = 1s; s = shilling (now 1s =
5p/new pence);
d = old
penny(21/2d=1p) approx._
Extract from The
Parliamentary Gazetteer 1840 -42
Boyle Town
Poor Law Union
etc.
The Boyle Poor Law
Union ranks as the 64th, and was declared on Aug.20,1839. It comprehends 283
square miles, or 181,293 acres, with apopulationin 1832, of 65,662. The
electoral divisions which compose it areShancough,Kilmactranny, Ballinafad,
Toomour, and Kilshaloy,in the Co of Sligo;Kilturid, Coolarin, and Kilfree, in
the counties of Sligo and Mayo; andBreedogue, Boyle, Ballinameen, Shankill,
Croghan, Rockingham, Ardcarne,
andKeadue in the
counties of Sligo and Roscommon.Boyle division is represented by three
electoral guardians, Keadue bytwo,and each of the other divisions by one; and
the number of ex officionguardians is six.The total nett annual value of
property rated is £81,262 6s; the totalnumber of persons rated is 11, 763; and
of these, 1,811 are rated for avaluation not exceeding £1,- 1,348, not
exceeding £2,- 1,311, notexceeding£3, - 1,283 not exceeding £4, - and 1,236,
not exceeding £5.The workhouse was contracted for on Feb 8 1840, - to be
completed inMarch,1841, - to cost £6,885 14s. for building and completion, and
£1414 6sforfittings and contingencies, - to occupy and area of 6 acres,
obtainedfor an
annual rent of
£30, - and to contain accommodation for 700 paupers. The
dateof the first
admission of paupers was Dec. 31 1840; the totalexpenditure
thence till Feb 6
1843, was £2,627 10s 3d.; and the total previousexpenditure was £454 9s 9d.The dispensary districts are
those of Boyle, Cootehall, Croghan and
Keadue;and they comprise
an area of 81,741 acres with 41,156 inhabitants,
leavingupwards of
one third of the population unprovided.The union contains no fever hospital;
and it is so situated as toderive nobenefit from the infirmaries of the counties in which it lies.The Boyle
dispensary has a district of 20,736 acres, with a population
of12, 597; and in
1840-41 received £136 18s., expended £122 7s 01/2d.,
made3,847
dispensations of medecine.A Charitable Loan Fund was established in 1824, was
conducted under thepatronage of Lord and lady Lorton, and up to 31st Dec.1829,
circulatedundergratuitous management £16,971 in 7,867 loans.
Trade: -
Timber, iron, and
other heavy goods are brought from Sligo by
drey-carriage; and
the finer articles of British manufacture chiefly from Dublin,
andprincipally by
canal. the town is very fairly provided withshops, and
is aconsiderable
depot for the retail supply of the surrounding country.
Theordinary market
for provisions is held in an oblong enclosure ,
constructedfor the
purpose near the bridge; and is supplied well with meat and
fish onrgular
days, and partially throughout the week. the staple articles of
cornand butter are
in smart demand ; and are sometimes ,at the height of
theseasdon,
objects of lively competition between the dealers established
inthe town and
those who come over from Sligo.Tradesmen of the ordinary classes, such as
carpenters,turners,wheelwrights,masons,
stonecutters,smiths,tinworkers,tailors,shoemakes, and coopersarenumerous.
Fairs are held on
May 30, July 25, and Oct 1.
Branch offices of
the National bank and the Agricultural Bank, were
established in
1836.The head inn, Freeman's, stands near the river, and would be
pronouncedgoodin almost any country or district.The public conveyances, in
1838, were a coach to Dublin, a car toLongford,a mail car to Frenchpark, and a
mail-coach and a stage-coach in transitbetween Dublin and Sligo.
end for today, Eve
From: "Michael Tobin"
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Date: Tue,
03 Nov 1998 05:23:00 PST
Subject:
[CRYAN-L] Re Cryan genealogies
To:
CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
In response to
Kevin's posting over a week ago listing the names of
Cryan researchers,
I'd like to point out that :-
T.G. Cryan, 11
Silver Birches, Dundrum, Dublin 14, IrelandFather- John Gerald Cryan (b.1916,
d. 1980) Keash, Ballymote, Co.Sligo. Grandfather- John Cryan, (b. c.1868, d.c.
1945),Keash, Ballymote -(farmer, Councillor).
is on the same
line as myself. We made contact during the Summer via Kevin. Thanks Kevin!regardsMichael
From: "Michael Tobin"
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Date: Tue,
03 Nov 1998 05:24:10 PST
Subject:
[CRYAN-L] Re BOYLE - Part 2
To:
CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
Eve
Thank you for the
posts concerning Boyle. I for one, find this
information very
useful. Its the sort of information that I read and
then file away for
future reference as you never know when I'll need it
again. Please
continue to post any information of this nature to the
list as many will
find it useful now or later.
regardsMichael
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Date:
Tue, 03 Nov 1998 05:26:49 PST
Subject:
[CRYAN-L] Re INFO REGARDING CRYANS OF
TONAPONRA To:
CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
Patrick
I don't know where
to start. Thank you for all the records which you posted concerning Keash. Much
of the information which you posted is very interesting to me as it lists some
of my family - and I have lots of questions for you. I would be very very
interested in finding outthe sources of your information as you include some
new details for me.
In the 1901
census, the family you list in Tonaponra are my line:
"1901 Cencus extract for the above:
* John Cryan Head Age 56
Died 20/9/1928
Mary Cryan (O'Neill) Wife Age 50 Died 28/9/1912
John Cryan Son Age 25 Died 31/8/1938
Mary Anne Cryan Daughter Age 22
Died 5/9/1937
Henry Cryan Son Age 15
Delia Cryan Daughter Age 13
Nora Cryan Daughter Age 4"
Mary Anne was my
great-grandmother. Henry was referred to as Harry by
my family - I have
yet to figure out why he was listed as Henry on the
1901 census. There
were 3 other children in the family - Matthew, Michael
and Martin, all of
whom were likely no longer living at home in 1901.
Matthew emigrated
to the USA and I have yet to track down his
descendants.
Michael owned a shop in Ballymote town and Martin died
from the big flu
around 1917-1921. This is more than likely the Martin Cryan
who you've noted
as dying on 3/12/1921 age 38.
As a matter of
interest, where did you obtain the dates of death that
you've listed?
Some of them differ to what I have recorded, although
I've yet to
confirm some of mine.
The Stephen Cyran
whom you mention died on 5/5/1987 aged 69 is a son of
John Cryan whom
you've indicated as died on 31/8/1938.
Regarding your
point that the Cryans of Tonaponra don't appear on the
Tithe Applotment
records of 1830/34, my Cryan line are reputed to be
from Carrowcrory
when you go back several generations. Whether they
were from there in 1830/34 or not, I don't know yet but it is a possibility.