(Big) O'Connell, Maurice house, office & garden: 0.2.23 1.5.0
11. Kerry Cahersiveen & Killarney Iveragh Caher Reenard 5a McCrohan,
Timothy O'Connell, Maurice house, office & land: 65.1.17 23.10.0
12. Kerry Cahersiveen & Killarney Iveragh Caher Reenard 8 McCrohan,
Daniel
(Tim) O'Connell, Maurice house & land: part of 34.2.33 (shared with
Daniel
McCrohan (Denis)) 5.8.0
13. Kerry Cahersiveen & Killarney Iveragh Caher Reenard 8 McCrohan,
Daniel
(Denis) O'Connell, Maurice land: part of 34.2.33 (shared with Daniel
McCrohan
(Tim)) 3.6.0
14. Kerry Cahersiveen & Killarney Iveragh Caher Reenard 9 McCrohan,
Daniel
(Denis) O'Connell, Maurice house, office & land: 32.1.29 8.5.0
Notes:
alwayslisted as the Immediate
Lessor, is listed as the occupier (of anoffice) andhis immediate lessor is
Nathaniel C. Bland. Mr. Bland is listed
as thesoleimmediate lessor of
I think this [the
wrong :).Just a thought. Also on
here -if the above wasn't awkward enough) and send to you (it includes all theBeginish-ers, which you may be interested in someday, if not now). Interestingly enough, unlike Co. Roscommon which was typed up onthe copyI'd been reading, Co. Kerry is still in a handwritten form.
-Leslie
From:Fatarm@aol.com Add to Address
BookDate:Mon, 28 Sep 1998 02:17:59 EDTSubject:[CRYAN-L] Croghans for Patricia M.,
again from
For Patricia, who is researching Croghans in Co. Roscommon, I brieflyscannedyour tree, and although I don't have another researcher to link you upwithjust yet, I can provide you the following list of Hughs, Michaels,James andPatricks (please note especially the Hugh from Carrowgarve townland). I'm
hoping you can make a positive ID from what you know of one of them,and let
me know about it. I pulled more Croghans off
Carrowgarve). -Leslie (they're in the same format as Pat R's McCroghans of Kerry:
County--
Lessor--Desc. & Area--Value)
_____________
1. Roscommon Castlerea Castlereagh Kilkeevin Arm 32e Croghan,
Hugh Simpson,
Anne house: - 0.10.0
2. Roscommon Strokestown ? Ogulla Carrowgarve 1b Croghan, Hugh Nugent,
Anthony
F. house, office & land: (part of) 81.3.34 59.15.0
3. Roscommon Roscommon Ballintober,
Hugh Farrell, Reps. Daniel land: 141.3.11 108.0.0
4. Roscommon Boyle Boyle Kilronan Aghafin 19a Croghan, James O'Conor,
Arthur house & land (part bog): 36.0.10 2.15.0
5. Roscommon Roscommon Ballintober,
James Goodman, Samuel House & small garden: - 1.5.0
6. Roscommon Strokestown ? Ogulla Carrowgarve 1a Croghan,
Michael Nugent,
Anthony F. house, office & land: (part of) 81.3.34 20.5.0
7. Roscommon Strokestown ? Ogulla Carrowgarve 4b Croghan,
Michael Nugent,
Anthony F. house, office & land: (part of) 136.2.26 82.10.0
8. Roscommon Roscommon Roscommon Cloonfinlough Clooncah 16L Croghan,
Michael Burke, Edmund (in chancery) house, office, land: (part of)
151.1.15 6.5.0
9. Roscommon Roscommon Ballintober,
Michael Sands, William house & garden (no val.): 0.0.15 0.10.0
10. Roscommon Roscommon Ballintober,
Michael Morgan, Michael Garden: 0.1.30 0.10.0
11. Roscommon Roscommon Ballintober,
Michael & Patrick Irwin, Daniel land: 4.2.30 1.15.0 & 1.15.0
12. Roscommon Roscommon Ballintober,
Patrick Daly,
13. Roscommon Strokestown Ballintober,
4 Croghan, Patrick Balfe, Nicholas land: 2.1.35 & 11.0.10 6.0.0
14. Roscommon Strokestown Ballintober,
Patrick Balfe, Nicholas house, office & land: 17.1.30 8.15.0
15. Roscommon Boyle Roscommon Shankill Kilnamryall 11a Croghan,
Patrick Coote,
Sir Charles H., Bt. house & land: 9.0.26 4.0.0
16. Roscommon Boyle Roscommon Shankill Kilnamryall 9 Croghan,
Patrick Coote,
Sir Charles H., Bt. land: 7.3.33 (part of) 0.15.0
17. Roscommon Boyle Frenchpark Kilmacumsy Lismacool 13 Croghan,
Patrick Coote,
Sir. Charles H. Coote, Bt. land: 1.0.0 0.10.0
18. Roscommon Roscommon Ballintober,
Patrick Irwin, Daniel house: - 0.15.0
From:Fatarm@aol.com Add to Address BookDate:Mon, 28 Sep 1998 02:32:36 EDTSubject:[CRYAN-L] All forms of surnameTo:CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
I took a brief glimpse at the Co. Mayo Griffith's and found thefollowingsurnames: Crane, Crean, Creane, Croghan, Cronan, Croughan, Cryan. Icanprovide first names if desired. But what I really want to know is, doesanyone have a specific desire for a Co. Mayo look-up? I'm planning onlooking
at John & Owen Cryan of Castlebar, Mayo anyways, for myself, so it's notrouble. Any other counties/parishes, etc. desired? Let me know.I'm also planning on finishing a review of the Boston Pilot
advertisements(I'm glad you liked them, Pat). Maybe I'll be a little more thoroughin mytranscription - did anyone else catch that last Cryan entry, husbandlookingfor wife and her cousin? Move on over Mary Croghan Schenley, I smell aCryanscandal brewing....
Lastly (for tonight), a few notes
from the Irish Manscripts Commissioncollection: (ask for bibliographical
reference details if any of theseare ofparticular interest)Father CREAN, prior
of Irish Augustinians in
1821. Rev. Father CRANE, Prior. A memo of January "to pay Mr. Sheehana loss
he had by some of Roche's
notes."Note in Intro to #12: [from Dr.
informationconcerning these, as well as other less prominent Co. Galway families[specifically notes CROGHAN as one such], can also be obtained from thematrimonial documents in the collection."
Serjt. [sic] William CRANE (one of a group) paid 5 pounds for capturing
threeRC priests, Father Anthony Kennedy included. 1656
From:Fatarm@aol.com Add to Address BookDate:Mon, 28 Sep 1998 09:20:07 EDTSubject:[CRYAN-L] MacLysaght's "More Irish Families" c. 1982To:CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
I've come across a third book by MacLysaght, titled "More IrishFamilies",published after his death, I believe. I thought the following blurbson somesurnames similar to the Creans (by sound, by Gaelic, or by name-changesourancestors made in spellings) might be of interest. I'm sending the
MacCrohan,Crehan, Creighton one separately (it's long). These are directtranscriptions
from the book:
O'Cowan/MacCoan: Cowan is an alternative form of two surnames dealtwith inIrish Families [his earlier book] - see Coyne (p. 98) and MacKeown (p.200).Where it occurs in Connacht records it is a substitute for the formerbut nownearly all families of this Hy Fiachrach sept are called Coyne or Coen. In
modern times Cowan is (apart, of
course, from the metropolitan area ofDublin)almost confined to
numerousin Co. Armagh in the 17th c. as evidenced by the Harth Money Rolls andalso by
the exhaustive analysis of Co.
Armagh surnames publ. by George Patersonand byMichael Clancy in Seanchas
Ardmhacha. .... [p. 65-66]Creedon, Creed:
Creedon, a west Cork name, is now called O Criodain[sorryfor lack of
gaelic accents] in Irish (e.g. Tomas Criadain, the 19th c.GaelicIrish scribe)
but formerly and properly it was Mac Criodain.
Itappears inthe late 16th c. Fiants dealing with Co.s Cork and
Cronin & Croneen [p. 69]: [rather than repeat the long blurb, just takemyword for it that there's definitely no connection there](Mac) Crowne: The name Crowne, associated with Manorhamilton andadjacent
areas, is a form of Croghan (q.v.), a name chiefly found in Co.Roscommon,alias Croan. Croghan is listed in the "Census" of 1659 as a principalIrishname in the barony of Ballintubber, Co. Roscommon. In the Fiants wefindMacCrowane in Co. Roscommon; Brian Keogh macBrien MacCroughen occurs ina
Fiant on 1591 with a number of O'Beirnes in Mayo, near Co. Roscommon;andagain in 1601 there is Croghan "alias O'Beirne," which, taken inconjunctionwith their location, suggests that the MacCroghans or Crownes were abranch ofthe O'Beirne sept. Woulfe gives MacConchruachain [sorry for lack ofIrish
accents] as the Gaelic-Irish form which is corroborated by a Fiantentry of1582 in which MacEncroghan appears as a Co. Roscommon name. [Interesting,no?!] [p. 70]I thought all that would be interesting to our Crown/Croghan/MacCroghanreaders ... Don't forget to read the next post on the MacCroghans for
more ...
From:Fatarm@aol.com Add to Address BookDate:Tue, 29 Sep 1998 12:23:53 EDTSubject:[CRYAN-L] Our list - administrativeTo:CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
We've made it to 30
researchers! And we cover quite a bit of
theEnglish-speaking world between us:
researchers have posted that they're fromIreland,
some newCrean postings shortly. We've had four new Croghan/Crogan/Crohans joinin thelast week, so we (hopefully) will read about their research shortly. We'vegot about equal parts (8 each) of the Cregan/Creahans and Cryans, Ithink.Only about half the Cryan group has ever posted their research to the
list.Maybe it's time for some of you early joiners to re-post your researchnowthat the crowd is more sizeable. My O'Crean family database now hasover 800names, but I don't yet have all of your information - gotta post it forit toget in and be checked against other listings! Don't worry about itbeingperfect -- it's more important to share information than to have it beseamless when you do so.If you think you see someone who might be interested in listening in tothediscussion or posting their research, please don't hesitate to have them
subscribe through rootsweb or by emailing me.Just so you know, I'm off on "holiday"/vacation for two weeks at theend ofthis week. I'll still be on-line, but won't have much to post. It'dbe agreat time to post your research (hint, hint :) -Leslie
From:"Michael Tobin"
<tobinmi@hotmail.com> Add to Address BookDate:Tue, 29 Sep 1998 10:34:49
PDTSubject:[CRYAN-L] O Craian/Crean of
Hello folks,The monument to which Eve referred to in a recent post, is indeed Sligo Abbey. I have a photocopy of a booklet published by the IrishGovernment on the Dominican Friary of Sligo, which according to the booklet is "generally (but incorrectly) known as Sligo Abbey". If this booklet is still available for sale, it should be available from the Government Publications Sale Office, Molesworth Street, Dublin 2. It may be possible to contact them via the Irish Government Web site at www.irlgov.ie.The booklet describes the history of the Friary from the 13th century onwards. "It was founded in 1252 or 1253 by Maurice FitzGerald, 2nd baron of Offaly, grandson of the first Maurice FitzGerald, who landedin Ireland with Raymond le Gros in 1169, and grandfather of the 1st Earlof Kildare."It goes on to state that Maurice may be regarded as the founder ofSligo town. It states that the Friary was occupied most of the time by the
Friars until 1760. In the intervening period, it had a turbulant history, being ransacked and commandeered on a few occasions. In 1760, the community moved elsewhere.It has the following reference to Crean:
"There is an interesting collection of 16th and 17th century monuments in the church. The earliest dated monument is the O'Craian or Creantomb of 1506 in a recess in the north wall of the nave, jst west of the rood-screen. It has the remains of a fine traceried canopy, below which is the tomb chest, similar to the high altar in general appearance but with figures in relief on the arcaded panels of the front. (The Crucifixion in the centre, with the Virgin Mary and St. John on either side; at the left-hand end is a friar, probaly St. Dominic, next towhom is a figure robed and crowned, carrying a sword, with a small circle on the breast, possibly the wheel of St Catherine, the third figure onthis side being a figure (? female) in a long gown secured by a belt,
carrying a staff with a pear-shaped end, possibly a pilgrim; at the far right is an archbishop holding a processional cross, with his hand raised in benediction, next to whom is St. Peter with the keys, the third position being occupied by St. Michael the Archangel, who can be recognised by his wings, his cross-bearing shield and his uplifted sword). The Latin inscription, along the upper margin of the top slabof
the tomb chest, is incomplete, but the date (1506) and the name Cormac O'Craian can be read: his wife's name is less certain, but it may be Johanna Nic Aengusa (or Ennis)."
"There are also several early 17th century armorial stones, forming portions of monuments now destroyed. The earliest of these, dated 1616, is built into the recess of the O'Craian tomb and bears the arms of the same family (argent, a wolf rampant sable, between these hearts gules) impaled with those of French (ermine, a chevron sable). The initials A.C. and E.F seem to be those of Andrew Crean and his wife. This may be the same Andrew Crean of Annagh to whom Elinor, Countess of Desmond, O'Connor Sligo's widow, left £100 in 1636. The hearts in the Crean arms and the inscription on the lower edge of the stone:
Cor mundum crea in me Deus et spiritum rectum innova in visceribus meis
'Create a clean heart in me, O God, and renew a right spirit within my bowels' probably constitute a punning allusion to the Irish word for heart (croidhe), the the sound of which resembles that of the name Crean.
Another stone, dated 1625, bears the Crean arms impaled witha rampant lion, apparantly for Jones. Across the base is carved two curious rhyme:
Wee two are one by his decree
That raigneth from eternity
Who first erected have these stones
Wee robucre Crean Elicia Jones"
I don't know if the above confuses us all further or if it helps. It certainly suggests that the O'Craian family were of high standing asthe tomb is of similar size to an O'Connor tomb in the Friary. These arethe O'Connor Sligo family who were lords of Sligo for centuries and wereone of the leading families of North Connacht.
I have another source which refers to the Crean mechants from Sligo. It is a book entitled "The Diocese of Achonry 1689-1818: A Hidden Church", by Fr Liam Swords. It was published last year - ISBN 1-8560-7204-5.
While the title might suggest that ti concentrates on the Church, it also goes into great detail on the lives of people and politics during this period. I would highly recommend it for anyone with roots inSligo.
In case you don't know, the Diocese of Achonry comprises one-third of Co. Sligo, one-fifth of Co. Mayo and one parish (Ballaghaderreen) from Co. Roscommon. It covers the Baronies of Gallen, Leyny, Costello,
Corran and Coolavin.
In one place in the book, it refers to an Act of 1704 which requiredall Catholic priests to register. In order to register, each priest had to have 2 sureties or guarantors, for £50 each. "Two members of the Crean family of Sligo, John and Stephen, were also guarantors. John, a merchant, gave a surety for James O'Connell of Ballisodare and Stephen, who may also have been a merchant, was Thady Higgins' second guarantor.
John Crean and John Lamey gave sureties also for priests of their own diocese of Elphin. ........
The Creans, John and Stephen, belonged to an old and distinguishedSligo family which ranked second only to the O'Connor Sligo family. Their residence was known as O'Crean's Castle and between the 15th and 17th
centuries they were a family of great wealth and high station and foremost among the merchant princes of that era. They lost much oftheir property as a result of the 1641 rebellion.".
It gives the book "Ballysadare and Kilvarnet" by O'Rorke, pages 476-7as a reference for this information.
All of the above strongly suggests that the Crean/O'Craian family were of very high standing in Sligo and were also staunch Catholic families.Hope this helps your research.Best regards Michael
From:Fatarm@aol.com Add to Address BookDate:Tue, 29 Sep 1998 23:07:51 EDTSubject:[CRYAN-L] MacCrohan, Croghan; (O) Crehan; Creighton -- MacLysaght's take on it allTo:CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
MacCrohan, Croghan; (O) Crehan; Creighton -- MacLysaght's take on it alltranscribed below from "More Irish Families" p. 68-9:
MacCrohan, Croghan; (O) Crehan; Creighton : These are three distinctsurnamesof quite different origin, but liable to be confused. MacCrohan, withwhichthe prefix Mac is almost always retained, is a Kerry name, the septbeing abranch of the O'Sullivans with whom they were regularly associated: they wererecorded, for example, as providing 40 men for O'Sullivan's army in1596.Their seat was the castle of Letter, near Cahirciveen. In the penaltimesthey were reduced to obscurity in Ireland, but as exiles they rose toprominence in Spain. As late as 1657 the MacCriohins are included in astatepaper of the day among the Munster families "plotting for trouble"; andin thenext generation we find Denis MacCroghan an officer in O'Donovan'sregiment ofJames II's army, while Jeremiah Croghan was in Creagh's regiment. Two
MacCroghans of Kerry were subsequently attainted as Jacobites. Croghan, however, is listed both by Matheson and Woulfe as adistinctname, the latter giving MacConchruachan as the form in Irish and
explaining itas "son of the hound of Croghan": Croghan, the ancient royal seat ofConnact,is a place in County Roscommon, to which county he assigna this minorsept. Older anglicized forms of the Kerry name as found in the Fiants,MonasticExtents etc., are MacCriohin, MacCruhen, MacCrughen; MacCriffon,
however,which would be an approximate phonetic rendering of the IrishMacCriomhthiann,occurs in the Fiants only in County Wexford and some other LeinsterCounties.The name of the Kerry seanchaidhe, Thomas O Criomthainn, so well knownfor hisAn tOileanach (the Islandman) is so printed in that and other books. As thisis always a Mac not an O name, this form is remarkable. The MacCrohans of Kerry sometimes appear also as MacCrehan, e.g.,in apatent of James I wherein the chief is called MacCrehan alias
O'Sullivan.Crehan, however, normally without a prefix in modern times, is entirelydifferent, being usually O Creachain in Irish: this sept belonged tothe HyFiachrach group and was located in the barony of Tirawley, County Mayo,itsmodern representatives being almost all found in that county and County
Galway. Another Crehan, O Croidheain of counties Sligo and Donegal, isdealtwith in Irish Families (see Crean) [a reference to his first book]. All this, however, does not exhaust the possibilities ofconfusion, for OCriochain of Ardstraw, County Tyrone, the name of the Oriel sept, hasalsobeen anglicized Crehan; but, in accordance with the unfortunatetendency,especially in Ulster, to adopt English names approximating sound toearlierand more Irish forms, Creighton has largely superseded Crehan in thenorth.Indeed it was common in Donegal and Tyrone in the mid-seventeenthcentury asthe Hearth Money rolls show. Creaton is another symptom of it. Creighton isalso a variant of the Scottish surname Crichton. It appears asCreichtown
among the Scottish applicants for lands at the time of the Plantation ofUlster. Creighton is the surname of the Earls of Erne. John Creighton(1768-1827) who introduced the practice of vaccination into Ireland was
one ofthis family: he was born at Athlone. Edward Creighton (1820-1874) wasatelegraph pioneer in the United States. William Croghan (1752-1822) wasamajor in the U.S. revolutioanry army in 1778 and his son, Col. GeorgeCroghan,was also a distinguished American soldier. Another Irish-American,GeorgeCroghan (c. 1710-1782), was a most successful Indian agent. The famousAmerican actress Ada Rehan (1860-1916) was actually a Crehan by name. She wasborn in Limerick. (see Crowne).___________________
From:Fatarm@aol.com Add to Address BookDate:Tue, 29 Sep 1998 23:36:58 EDTSubject:[CRYAN-L] 1796 Spinning Wheel Index of NamesTo:CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
Pat R. kindly explained to me (and far better than I ever could, evenif I hadknown) what the 1796 Spinning Wheel Index of Names is, and I quote:
"As I understand it, the Linen manufacturers, in order to encourage theincreasedplanting of flax throughout the country, promised a spinning wheel toeachfarmer who would turn over an acre of land to flax. The advantage thatthislist offers is the naming of tenants rather than just land owners at atime
that is not covered by other records.
"The All Ireland Heritage Series Edition of the Alphabetical Index totheNames contained in the Premium Entitlement lists of the Trustees of theLinen and Hempen Manufacturers of Ireland/ AKA the 1796 Spinning WheelList." The printed record covers approved claims for 89,506 spinningwheels(or equivalent units). Since the average award per person was less thantwowheels, the list includes at least 50,000 individuals. Ulster excelledwith57,811 wheels reported (64%)" Dublin and Wicklow had no listings. "----------
Below is a transcription from the Index, and my last big posting forseveralweeks! (promise!)
NAME: COUNTY; PARISH/BARONY
Craghan, John: Meath; Kilberry
Crane, Honora: Roscommon; Kilumad
Creaghan, James: Galway; Aughyart
Creaghan, Owen: Galway; Killyan
Creaghan, Thomas: Galway; Killyan
Crean, Edward: Kerry; Kilgobbin
Crean, Michael: Kerry; Kielquant
Crean, Peter: Kerry; Kilgobbin
Creegan, Bridget: Longford; Bar of Granard
Creegan, Daniel: Leitrim; Cloone
Creegan, Finn: Londonderry; Cumber
Creegan, James: Leitrim; Cloone
Creegan, James: Londonderry; Lissane
Creegan, John: Leitrim; Cloone
Creegan, Mathew: Leitrim; Cloone
Creen, John: Down; Kilclief
Creen, John: Down; Maghera
Creen, John: Roscommon; Kilumad
Creen, Michael: Down; Ballyculter
Cregan, Claudius: Tyrone; Cappagh
Cregan, Patrick: Tyrone; Clonfecle
Creighan, Bryan: Monaghan; Kilmore
Creighan, Bryan: Monaghan; Monaghan
Creighan, Edward: Monaghan; Kilmore
Creighan, Elener: Monaghan; Kilmore
Creighan, John: Monaghan; Kilmore
Creighan, Philip: Monaghan; Kilmore
Creighan, Stephen: Monaghan; Kilmore
Creighen, Edward: Monaghan; Drumsnat
Crien, Owen: Roscommon; Boyle
Crien, Owen: Roscommon; Killucan
Crien, Peter: Roscommon; Killucan
Crigan, Patrick: Tyrone; Aughalow
Criggan, John: Fermanagh; Enniskillen
Crine, Widow: Roscommon; Killmore
Crinnan, James: Louth; Darver
Crinnan, Margaret: Louth; Darver
Crinnan, Mark: Louth; Dromiskin
Crinnan, Michael: Louth; Darver
Crinnion, Patrick: Louth; Ardee
Crinnion, Peter: Louth; Clonkeen
Crinnon, Nicholas: Meath; Rushwell
Crinnon, Patrick: Meath; Killery
Crodan, Patrick: Longford; Barony of Granard
Crogan, Terence: Tyrone; Clonfecle
Croghan, Darby: Roscommon; Boyle
Croghan, James: Roscommon; Kilumad
Croghan, Michael: Roscommon; Kilumad
Croghan, Parson: Roscommon; Tobohin
Croghan, Patrick: Roscommon; Kiltrustan
Croghan, Thomas: Westmeath; St. Feighan
Crohon, Bat.: Kerry; Ventry
Crohon, James: Kerry; Kielquane
Crohon, John: Kerry; Kielquane
Crohon, Philip: Kerry; Dunqueen
Cronan, Patrick: Cavan; Crousherlough
Cronen, Patrick: Kerry; Balliancourty
Cronoge, Anne: Leitrim; Kiltaughert [I haven't come across this
surname b4]
Cronoge, Bryan: Leitrim; Kiltaughert
Cronoge, John: Leitrim; Kiltaughert
Cryan, Bryan: Roscommon; Kilcooly
Cryan, Conner: Sligo; Kilshalvy
Cryan, Murtagh: Roscommon; Elphin
Cryan, Owen: Roscommon; Kilcooly
Cryan, Thady: Sligo; Drumrat
M'Creaghan, Michael: Tyrone; Lissen
M'Crohon, Owen: Kerry; Kieldrum
___________________
Reply-To:"Family History" < >From:"Family History" < > Add to Address BookSubject:Re: [CRYAN-L] O Craian/Crean of Sligo townDate:Wed, 30 Sep 1998 08:46:15 +0100To:CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
Thank you Michael, that is brilliant.I had thought that this information would only be available in alibrary inSligo. It also shows that we are going in the right direction. We nowneedto get the family connections further back to see where we fit in.You have also answered my questions about the diocese of Achonry - thankyou.Until again ,take care, Eve
Date:Wed, 30 Sep 1998 14:28:11 -0400From:Jim Ogg <J_JOgg@compuserve.com> Add to Address BookSubject:[Fwd: Taking Genealogy Too Seriously.......]To:Cathy Amatnieks <amatniek@rogers.wave.ca>,Beth Banks <beth@hallmoor.demon.co.uk>,Malcolm Craik <m.f.craik@ncl.ac.uk>,Kevin Cryan <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>,Linda Donovan Evans <evans@nbnet.nb.ca>,Thelma Gledhill <106151.372@compuserve.com>,Bobbie & John Hoechlin <bojo@aone.com>,Trish Hopkins <parrspub@globalserve.net>,Rhonda Little <Little4580@aol.com>,Mary Lyons <106462.2127@compuserve.com>,Ann Osborne <WillowPond_Lympsham@compuserve.com>,"Dr. Barry Potvin" <potvin@ymail.yu.edu>,Bill & Jean Putnam <virgini252@aol.com>,"Robert H. Wheelock" <RHWheelock@aol.com>,Brian Seddon <bseddon@bigpond.com>,Greg Latham <Greg@lathamg.freeserve.co.uk>
Dear Fellow Researchers,This was emailed to me from another researcher in Canada. Enjoy!
YOU KNOW YOU'RE TAKING GENEALOGY TOO SERIOUSLY IF ...
You are the only person to show up at the cemetery research partywith a shovel.
To put the "final touches" on your genealogical research, you'veasked all of your closest relatives to provide DNA samples.
You were instrumental in having "non-genealogical use of thegenealogy room copy machine" classified as a federal hate crime.
Your house leans slightly toward the side where your genealogicalrecords are stored.
You decided to take a two-week break from genealogy, and the U.S.Postal Office immediately laid off 1,500 employees.
Out of respect for your best friend's unquestioned reputation forhonesty and integrity, you are willing to turn off that noisysurveillancecamera while she reviews your 57 genealogical research notebooks in your
home. The armed security guard, however, will remain.
You plod merrily along "refining" your recently published familyhistory, blissfully unaware that the number of errata pages now farexceeds the number of pages in your original publication.
During an ice storm and power outage, you ignore the pleas of yourshivering spouse and place your last quilt around that 1886 photographofdear Uncle George.
The most recent document in your "Missing Ancestors" file is a 36-page contract between you and Johnson Billboard Advertising Company.
Ed McMahon, several t.v. cameras and an envelope from PublishersClearing House arrive at your front door on Super Bowl Sunday, and thefirst thing you say is, "Are you related to the McMahons of Ohio?"
"A Loving Family" and "Financial Security" have moved up to secondand third, respectively, on your list of life's goals, but still lag farbehind "Owning My Own Microfilm Reader."
A magical genie appears and agrees to grant your any one wish, andyou ask that the 1890 census be restored.
Warm regards,Joan Ogg
From:Fatarm@aol.com Add to Address BookDate:Fri, 2 Oct 1998 00:52:02 EDTSubject:[CRYAN-L] I have to say, I'm impressedTo:CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
Both with Michael's knowledge and posting and with Lyle's webpage. Besure tocheck it out: <A HREF="http://members.tripod.com/~havana_2/">DanialCryan-Ire.Can.and USA</A>.... and I'm just going to assume that the Lemmings are a reference tohowcaught up genealogists get .... (now even you Crean and Croghan typesarecurious, aren't you?)Thus, I'm going to post my names again to the list, in case there's a
connection waiting to happen:Robert CRYAN (1840-1901, S. Dublin), RIC Constable, m. Frances FOX
(1853-1917,Bronx, NY, USA), housewife and housekeeper.Their offspring:Katherine CRYAN (Sr. Mary Vincentia)Agnes CRYAN SMYTH (1887, Castlebar, Mayo-1968), Linde Air employee, myGgrandmom
- her great grandson, my brother, is named after her, Daniel CryanBirch
Mary CRYAN GUNNIGLE m. Peter
Ellen CRYAN O'NEILL m. Tom
Anne CRYAN CAULFIELD m. James
Joseph CRYAN
Thomas CRYAN m. ? -- all died of tuberculosis (Tom, wife & twin
daughters)
Jack (john?) CRYAN
Robert CRYAN m. ?, had one daughter Dorothy CRYAN STOKES and two sons
If any of you Cryan researchers have a Robert anywhere in your
research, letme know -- they were rare (Robert + Cryan). Thanks, Leslie
==== CRYAN Mailing List ====
Have you posted your research line to the list recently? In two months
we grew to over 30 researchers. Known surname variations being
researched by subscribers to list: MacCrohan/MacCroghan, Crain, Cryan,
Crehan, Cr¬an/Craine, Cregan, Crehan/Crane, and Craun/Crahan.
From:Harvey.Wohlwend@SEMATECH.Org Add to Address BookDate:Fri, 02 Oct 1998 08:31:22 -0500Subject:RE: [CRYAN-L] I have to say, I'm impressedTo:CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
Thanks for posting your list of ancestors which linked me to the veryinformative web site about my ancestors! My mother is Eleanor Cryan, B:1917, and her father was Joseph DanielCryan,
B:1863. I grew up in Kingston Township, near Geneseo and Cayuga, NorthDakota,towns mentioned frequently at the web site. I visited Joseph and Anna'sgraveswith my mother this past July.
Incidentally, a Robert Cryan was born in Watertown SD in 1967. Hisfather wasCharles, Jr., B:1933, and his grandfather was Charles, Sr. B:1906, myuncle.
Thanks, Harvey Wohlwend Austin, Texas
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From:ljstandak@webtv.net (Lyle Staehnke) Add to Address BookDate:Fri, 2 Oct 1998 13:18:05 -0700 (PDT)Subject:[CRYAN-L] RE: Miscellaneous Cryan Info:To:CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
MISC CRYAN
Cryan Family Of Boyle, Co. Roscommon [ Follow Ups ] [ The
Leitrim-Roscommon Bulletin Board ] [ FAQ ] Posted by Maureen McCourt
Nantista on May 02, 1997 at 01:00:06: Am interested in hearing from
anyone with information concerning the Cryans of Boyle Parish. My own
family is as follows: 1. Peter CRYAN (abt 1798) sp. Araeta MATTIMOE (abt
1798) 2. Catherine CRYAN (1823) 2. Peter CRYAN (1824) 2. Michael CRYAN
(1826) sp. Mary DURR (1828) 3. Mary Ann CRYAN (1853) ? sp. James BRENNAN
(1853) 3. Michael CRYAN (1855-1933) sp. Bridget CASEY (1855-1917) 4.
Michael J. CRYAN (1881-1961) 4. Jane CRYAN (1882-1951) sp- Michael
CUNNINGHAM(1881-1962) 4. John CRYAN (1884-1929) sp. Sarah MCINTOSH
(1889-1967) 4. Bridget CRYAN (1885-1963) sp. James SCANLON (?-1973) 4.
Patrick Joseph CRYAN (1887-1917) sp. Julia GAINE (1894) 4. Mary Anne
CRYAN (1888-1894) 4. Peter CRYAN (1890-1917) 4. Catherine CRYAN
(1892-1911) 4. Eugene CRYAN (1894-1913) 4. Francis Joseph CRYAN
(1897-1960) 4. Leo Augustine CRYAN (1899-1981) 3. Elizabeth CRYAN (1857)
3. Peter CRYAN (1860) 3. Patrick CRYAN (1862) 3. John CRYAN (1864) 3.
John CRYAN (1866) The family lived in Deerpark and Boyle. Michael CRYAN
(1855-1933) was well known and steward of the Catholic Club. His sons
Michael J., Francis and Leo formed the popular Boyle Havana Band. Leo
was also the govt. insurance agent in Boyle. In addition to CRYAN
relatives I would like to learn of any DURR or CASEY cousins of this
family. Will supply additional information to anyone interested. Thank
you and good luck to all reading this. Follow Ups: [ Follow Ups ] [ The
Leitrim-Roscommon Bulletin Board ] [ FAQ ]
The National Archives of Ireland Search results Found 2 records matching
cryan. Printing first 2 of 2 records. The document reference in each
entry below is the National Archives of Ireland reference to the
original document in the archives. The microfilm reference number refers
to the set of microfilms presented to Australia in 1988. Record 1 of 2
SURNAME: CRYAN OTHER NAMES: JOHN AGE: 28 SEX: M ALIAS: PLACE OF TRIAL:
Co. Sligo TRIAL DATE: 20/06/1848 PLACE OF IMPRISONMENT: DOCUMENT DATE:
CRIME DESCRIPTION: Burglary with intent SENTENCE: Transportation 7 yrs
SHIP: London PETITIONER: RELATIONSHIP: DOCUMENT REFERENCES: TR 8, P 142
MICROFILM REFERENCES: COMMENTS: Record 2 of 2 SURNAME: CRYAN OTHER
NAMES: JOHN AGE: 0 SEX: M ALIAS: PLACE OF TRIAL: Sligo TRIAL DATE:
20/06/1849 PLACE OF IMPRISONMENT: kilmainham DOCUMENT DATE: 24/03/1850
CRIME DESCRIPTION: burglary SENTENCE: transportation 7 yrs SHIP:
PETITIONER: RELATIONSHIP: DOCUMENT REFERENCES: CRF1850misc2(2) MICROFILM
REFERENCES: COMMENTS: Back to the Transportation Search Page Back to
National Archives home page Last update:29sep95
Ontario Cemetery Finding Aid Search Results For information on the
Database Fields, see the OCFA Field Information page. Name: CRYAN, Annie
(Clyne) Cemetery: Avondale, Stratford (Roman Catholic sections) County:
Perth Township: Downie Reference: PH-286-3 Name: CRYAN, David Cemetery:
Avondale, Stratford (Roman Catholic sections) County: Perth Township:
Downie Reference: PH-286-3 Name: CRYAN, Ellen Cemetery: St Josephs Roman
Catholic County: Perth Township: Ellice Reference: PH-000-0 Name: CRYAN,
John Cemetery: St Josephs Roman Catholic County: Perth Township: Ellice
Reference: PH-000-0 Name: CRYAN, Valentine Cemetery: Avondale, Stratford
(Roman Catholic sections) County: Perth Township: Downie Reference:
PH-286-3 Back to the OCFA Search Page Back to the OCFA Home Page
Saved message From: cdobie@superaje.com (Charles Dobie) Date: Wed, Jun
10, 1998, 12:19am (PDT+3) To: ljstandak@webtv.net (Lyle Staehnke)
Subject: Cryan in OCFA 6 Lyle, Here are the CRYAN entries in OCFA 6:
"CRYAN","-","Holy Angels Roman Catholic, St
Thomas","Elgin","Yarmouth","EL-535","C650" "CRYAN","Anna
Freeman","Avondale, Stratford (Range
18)","Perth","Downie","PH-288-X","C650" "CRYAN","Charles J.","Holy
Angels Roman Catholic, St Thomas","Elgin","Yarmouth","EL-535","C650"
"CRYAN","Charles L.","Holy Angels Roman Catholic, St
Thomas","Elgin","Yarmouth","EL-535","C650" "CRYAN","Delia S.","Holy
Angels Roman Catholic, St Thomas","Elgin","Yarmouth","EL-535","C650"
"CRYAN","Emerson S.","Holy Angels Roman Catholic, St
Thomas","Elgin","Yarmouth","EL-535","C650" "CRYAN","Joseph
P.","Avondale, Stratford (Range 18)","Perth","Downie","PH-288-X","C650"
"CRYAN","Nellie Kelterborn","Avondale, Stratford (Range
18)","Perth","Downie","PH-288-X","C650" "CRYAN","Wilfred C.","Avondale,
Stratford (Range 18)","Perth","Downie","PH-288-X","C650" I hope they are
some use to you. Cheers, Charlie Dobie, cdobie@superaje.com
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1871 census,Ontario head of house hold...First name is
misspelled should be Danial instead of David Cryan.... [New Search /
Nouvelle recherche] [How to interpret your results and order copies /
Comment interpréter les résultats et obtenir des copies] Result for
query "cryan" Résultat de la recherche effectuée à partir du mot
clé "cryan" File/Fichier //Dundas/Dundas_06 line 152: CRYAN DAVID 68
IRELAND RC IRISH F 071 A 2 23 04 File/Fichier //Ontario/Ontario_15 line
62: CRYAN MICHAEL JAMES 2 RC 049 E 2 D 51 line 63: CRYAN THOMAS 32 O RC
IRISH CARPENTER 049 E 2 40 51 File/Fichier //Perth/Perth_13 line 82:
CRYAN BERNARD 59 IRELAND RC IRISH F 030 B 1 1 55 line 83: CRYAN ELLEN 1
1 45 IRELAND RC IRISH SERVANT 030 C 4 40 55 line 84: CRYAN JOHN 35
ENGLAND RC IRISH F 030 B 1 4 55 Summary for query "cryan"/ Sommaire de
la recherche effectuée à partir du mot clé "cryan": found 6
matches in 3 files/ 6 documents(s) trouvé(s) dans 3 fichier(s) [New
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Irish Rowing Hall of Fame SENIOR ROWING CHAMPIONS: 1912 - 1996 Most
Individual Wins Name:Club(s): M/WWins 8'sWinsEvents: Frank
MOOREGarda-Neptune M1478, 4+, 2-, 2xGerry MURPHYNeptuneM1488, 4+ Eunan
DOLANNeptuneM 1378, 4+ Nicole RYANCommercial-Anna Liffey-Workmen's
W13.4+, 2-Niall O'TOOLECommercialM12.2x, 1x, L1x Willie RYANGardaM 1268,
4+, 2-, 2x Frances CRYANCarrick-on-Shannon W11.1xCathy BUCHANANQueen's
Ladies'-Belfast RC W10.4+, 2-, 1xJohn
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From:ljstandak@webtv.net (Lyle Staehnke) Add to Address BookDate:Sat, 3 Oct 1998 11:15:54 -0700 (PDT)Subject:[CRYAN-L] 1885 CensusTo:CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
http://dp3.lib.ndsu.nodak.edu/cgi-bin/1885Census/search.pl?page=1&name=cryan&occupation=&nativity=&city=&county=
Date:Sat, 03 Oct 1998 17:12:27 -0400From:leonard w crean <crean@erols.com> Add to Address BookReply-To:crean@erols.comSubject:[CRYAN-L] my Crean lineTo:CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
Fellow Crean's can anyone relate to my line below:
Descendants of Dennis Crean
Generation No. 1
1. DENNIS1 CREAN was born Abt. 1780 in IRELAND, and died Abt. 1850 in
IRELAND. He married HANNAH.
Child of DENNIS CREAN and HANNAH is:
2. i. CORNELIUS2 CREAN, b. Abt. 1810, CORK,IRELAND; d. May 22, 1876,
Rockport,Essex,Massachusetts.
Generation No. 2
2. CORNELIUS2 CREAN (DENNIS1) was born Abt. 1810 in CORK,IRELAND1, and
died May 22, 1876 in Rockport,Essex,Massachusetts1. He married
CATHERINE SULLIVAN 1836 in IRELAND.
Children of CORNELIUS CREAN and CATHERINE SULLIVAN are:
3. i. DENNIS3 CREAN, b. August 20, 1846, CORK,IRELAND; d. September 20,
1887, Salem, Essex, Massachusetts.
4. ii. JOHN CREAN, b. 1849, CORK,IRELAND.
5. iii. JEREMIAH J. CREAN, b. May 01, 1857, CORK,IRELAND; d. September
04, 1890, Salem,Essex,Massachusetts.
iv. JULIA CREAN, b. 18602.
6. v. MARY J. CREAN, b. May 1860, CORK,IRELAND; d. November 29, 1896,
SALEM,ESSEX,MASS..
vi. HANNAH CREAN, b. 1863, ROCKPORT,ESSEX,MA.2; d. August 02, 1949,
SALEM,ESSEX,MASS.3.
vii. CATHERINE J. CREAN, b. 1865, ROCKPORT,ESSEX,MA.4; d. November 02,
1891, SALEM,ESSEX,MASS.5.
Generation No. 3
3. DENNIS3 CREAN (CORNELIUS2, DENNIS1) was born August 20, 1846 in
CORK,IRELAND6, and died September 20, 1887 in Salem, Essex,
Massachusetts7. He married ELLEN FREEMAN 1868 in IRELAND, daughter of
MICHAEL FREEMEN and HARRIET DURKIN.
Notes for DENNIS CREAN:
Came to New York in July 22,1862 and became a citizen on Nov.6,1876.
Last name was spelled Crane until 1870 census then it was Crean.
Notes for ELLEN FREEMAN:
Buried in St. Marys Cemetery Salem
Children of DENNIS CREAN and ELLEN FREEMAN are:
7. i. CORNELIUS J.4 CREAN, b. August 03, 1869,
Rockport,Essex,Massachusetts; d. 1942, Salem, Essex, Massachusetts.
ii. HARRIET F. CREAN, b. October 1870, Rockport,Essex,Massachusetts8.
8. iii. DENNIS MICHAEL CREAN, b. February 21, 1872,
Rockport,Essex,Massachusetts; d. May 16, 1954, Salem, Essex,
Massachusetts.
iv. MICHAEL CREAN, b. July 21, 1873, Rockport,Essex,Massachusetts9; d.
December 05, 1881, Salem,Essex,Massachusetts10.
v. CATHERINE GERTRUDE CREAN, b. April 03, 1875,
Rockport,Essex,Massachusetts11; m. JOHN JOSEPH BARRY, November 28, 1916,
Lynn,Essex,Massachusetts12.
vi. MARY ELLEN CREAN, b. October 08, 1876,
Rockport,Essex,Massachusetts13; m. JOHN W. BRENNEN.
vii. JULIA CREAN, b. November 1878, Salem,Essex,Massachusetts14; d.