(Big) O'Connell, Maurice house, office & garden: 0.2.23 1.5.0
11. Kerry Cahersiveen & Killarney Iveragh Caher Reenard 5a McCrohan,
Timothy O'Connell, Maurice house, office & land: 65.1.17 23.10.0
12. Kerry Cahersiveen & Killarney Iveragh Caher Reenard 8 McCrohan,
(Tim) O'Connell, Maurice house & land: part of 34.2.33 (shared with
McCrohan (Denis)) 5.8.0
13. Kerry Cahersiveen & Killarney Iveragh Caher Reenard 8 McCrohan,
(Denis) O'Connell, Maurice land: part of 34.2.33 (shared with Daniel
14. Kerry Cahersiveen & Killarney Iveragh Caher Reenard 9 McCrohan,
(Denis) O'Connell, Maurice house, office & land: 32.1.29 8.5.0
alwayslisted as the Immediate
Lessor, is listed as the occupier (of anoffice) andhis immediate lessor is
Nathaniel C. Bland. Mr. Bland is listed
as thesoleimmediate lessor of
I think this [the
wrong :).Just a thought. Also on
here -if the above wasn't awkward enough) and send to you (it includes all theBeginish-ers, which you may be interested in someday, if not now). Interestingly enough, unlike Co. Roscommon which was typed up onthe copyI'd been reading, Co. Kerry is still in a handwritten form.
From:Fatarm@aol.com Add to Address
BookDate:Mon, 28 Sep 1998 02:17:59 EDTSubject:[CRYAN-L] Croghans for Patricia M.,
For Patricia, who is researching Croghans in Co. Roscommon, I brieflyscannedyour tree, and although I don't have another researcher to link you upwithjust yet, I can provide you the following list of Hughs, Michaels,James andPatricks (please note especially the Hugh from Carrowgarve townland). I'm
hoping you can make a positive ID from what you know of one of them,and let
me know about it. I pulled more Croghans off
Carrowgarve). -Leslie (they're in the same format as Pat R's McCroghans of Kerry:
Lessor--Desc. & Area--Value)
1. Roscommon Castlerea Castlereagh Kilkeevin Arm 32e Croghan,
Anne house: - 0.10.0
2. Roscommon Strokestown ? Ogulla Carrowgarve 1b Croghan, Hugh Nugent,
F. house, office & land: (part of) 81.3.34 59.15.0
3. Roscommon Roscommon Ballintober,
Hugh Farrell, Reps. Daniel land: 141.3.11 108.0.0
4. Roscommon Boyle Boyle Kilronan Aghafin 19a Croghan, James O'Conor,
Arthur house & land (part bog): 36.0.10 2.15.0
5. Roscommon Roscommon Ballintober,
James Goodman, Samuel House & small garden: - 1.5.0
6. Roscommon Strokestown ? Ogulla Carrowgarve 1a Croghan,
Anthony F. house, office & land: (part of) 81.3.34 20.5.0
7. Roscommon Strokestown ? Ogulla Carrowgarve 4b Croghan,
Anthony F. house, office & land: (part of) 136.2.26 82.10.0
8. Roscommon Roscommon Roscommon Cloonfinlough Clooncah 16L Croghan,
Michael Burke, Edmund (in chancery) house, office, land: (part of)
9. Roscommon Roscommon Ballintober,
Michael Sands, William house & garden (no val.): 0.0.15 0.10.0
10. Roscommon Roscommon Ballintober,
Michael Morgan, Michael Garden: 0.1.30 0.10.0
11. Roscommon Roscommon Ballintober,
Michael & Patrick Irwin, Daniel land: 4.2.30 1.15.0 & 1.15.0
12. Roscommon Roscommon Ballintober,
13. Roscommon Strokestown Ballintober,
4 Croghan, Patrick Balfe, Nicholas land: 2.1.35 & 11.0.10 6.0.0
14. Roscommon Strokestown Ballintober,
Patrick Balfe, Nicholas house, office & land: 17.1.30 8.15.0
15. Roscommon Boyle Roscommon Shankill Kilnamryall 11a Croghan,
Sir Charles H., Bt. house & land: 9.0.26 4.0.0
16. Roscommon Boyle Roscommon Shankill Kilnamryall 9 Croghan,
Sir Charles H., Bt. land: 7.3.33 (part of) 0.15.0
17. Roscommon Boyle Frenchpark Kilmacumsy Lismacool 13 Croghan,
Sir. Charles H. Coote, Bt. land: 1.0.0 0.10.0
18. Roscommon Roscommon Ballintober,
Patrick Irwin, Daniel house: - 0.15.0
From:Fatarm@aol.com Add to Address BookDate:Mon, 28 Sep 1998 02:32:36 EDTSubject:[CRYAN-L] All forms of surnameTo:CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
I took a brief glimpse at the Co. Mayo Griffith's and found thefollowingsurnames: Crane, Crean, Creane, Croghan, Cronan, Croughan, Cryan. Icanprovide first names if desired. But what I really want to know is, doesanyone have a specific desire for a Co. Mayo look-up? I'm planning onlooking
at John & Owen Cryan of Castlebar, Mayo anyways, for myself, so it's notrouble. Any other counties/parishes, etc. desired? Let me know.I'm also planning on finishing a review of the Boston Pilot
advertisements(I'm glad you liked them, Pat). Maybe I'll be a little more thoroughin mytranscription - did anyone else catch that last Cryan entry, husbandlookingfor wife and her cousin? Move on over Mary Croghan Schenley, I smell aCryanscandal brewing....
Lastly (for tonight), a few notes
from the Irish Manscripts Commissioncollection: (ask for bibliographical
reference details if any of theseare ofparticular interest)Father CREAN, prior
of Irish Augustinians in
1821. Rev. Father CRANE, Prior. A memo of January "to pay Mr. Sheehana loss
he had by some of Roche's
notes."Note in Intro to #12: [from Dr.
informationconcerning these, as well as other less prominent Co. Galway families[specifically notes CROGHAN as one such], can also be obtained from thematrimonial documents in the collection."
Serjt. [sic] William CRANE (one of a group) paid 5 pounds for capturing
threeRC priests, Father Anthony Kennedy included. 1656
From:Fatarm@aol.com Add to Address BookDate:Mon, 28 Sep 1998 09:20:07 EDTSubject:[CRYAN-L] MacLysaght's "More Irish Families" c. 1982To:CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
I've come across a third book by MacLysaght, titled "More IrishFamilies",published after his death, I believe. I thought the following blurbson somesurnames similar to the Creans (by sound, by Gaelic, or by name-changesourancestors made in spellings) might be of interest. I'm sending the
MacCrohan,Crehan, Creighton one separately (it's long). These are directtranscriptions
from the book:
O'Cowan/MacCoan: Cowan is an alternative form of two surnames dealtwith inIrish Families [his earlier book] - see Coyne (p. 98) and MacKeown (p.200).Where it occurs in Connacht records it is a substitute for the formerbut nownearly all families of this Hy Fiachrach sept are called Coyne or Coen. In
modern times Cowan is (apart, of
course, from the metropolitan area ofDublin)almost confined to
numerousin Co. Armagh in the 17th c. as evidenced by the Harth Money Rolls andalso by
the exhaustive analysis of Co.
Armagh surnames publ. by George Patersonand byMichael Clancy in Seanchas
Ardmhacha. .... [p. 65-66]Creedon, Creed:
Creedon, a west Cork name, is now called O Criodain[sorryfor lack of
gaelic accents] in Irish (e.g. Tomas Criadain, the 19th c.GaelicIrish scribe)
but formerly and properly it was Mac Criodain.
Itappears inthe late 16th c. Fiants dealing with Co.s Cork and
Cronin & Croneen [p. 69]: [rather than repeat the long blurb, just takemyword for it that there's definitely no connection there](Mac) Crowne: The name Crowne, associated with Manorhamilton andadjacent
areas, is a form of Croghan (q.v.), a name chiefly found in Co.Roscommon,alias Croan. Croghan is listed in the "Census" of 1659 as a principalIrishname in the barony of Ballintubber, Co. Roscommon. In the Fiants wefindMacCrowane in Co. Roscommon; Brian Keogh macBrien MacCroughen occurs ina
Fiant on 1591 with a number of O'Beirnes in Mayo, near Co. Roscommon;andagain in 1601 there is Croghan "alias O'Beirne," which, taken inconjunctionwith their location, suggests that the MacCroghans or Crownes were abranch ofthe O'Beirne sept. Woulfe gives MacConchruachain [sorry for lack ofIrish
accents] as the Gaelic-Irish form which is corroborated by a Fiantentry of1582 in which MacEncroghan appears as a Co. Roscommon name. [Interesting,no?!] [p. 70]I thought all that would be interesting to our Crown/Croghan/MacCroghanreaders ... Don't forget to read the next post on the MacCroghans for
From:Fatarm@aol.com Add to Address BookDate:Tue, 29 Sep 1998 12:23:53 EDTSubject:[CRYAN-L] Our list - administrativeTo:CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
We've made it to 30
researchers! And we cover quite a bit of
theEnglish-speaking world between us:
researchers have posted that they're fromIreland,
some newCrean postings shortly. We've had four new Croghan/Crogan/Crohans joinin thelast week, so we (hopefully) will read about their research shortly. We'vegot about equal parts (8 each) of the Cregan/Creahans and Cryans, Ithink.Only about half the Cryan group has ever posted their research to the
list.Maybe it's time for some of you early joiners to re-post your researchnowthat the crowd is more sizeable. My O'Crean family database now hasover 800names, but I don't yet have all of your information - gotta post it forit toget in and be checked against other listings! Don't worry about itbeingperfect -- it's more important to share information than to have it beseamless when you do so.If you think you see someone who might be interested in listening in tothediscussion or posting their research, please don't hesitate to have them
subscribe through rootsweb or by emailing me.Just so you know, I'm off on "holiday"/vacation for two weeks at theend ofthis week. I'll still be on-line, but won't have much to post. It'dbe agreat time to post your research (hint, hint :) -Leslie
<email@example.com> Add to Address BookDate:Tue, 29 Sep 1998 10:34:49
PDTSubject:[CRYAN-L] O Craian/Crean of
Hello folks,The monument to which
Eve referred to in a recent post, is indeed Sligo Abbey. I have a photocopy of
a booklet published by the IrishGovernment on the Dominican Friary of Sligo,
which according to the booklet is "generally (but incorrectly) known as Sligo Abbey". If this booklet
is still available for sale, it should be available from the Government
Publications Sale Office,
Friars until 1760. In the intervening period, it had a turbulant history, being ransacked and commandeered on a few occasions. In 1760, the community moved elsewhere.It has the following reference to Crean:
"There is an interesting collection of 16th and 17th century monuments in the church. The earliest dated monument is the O'Craian or Creantomb of 1506 in a recess in the north wall of the nave, jst west of the rood-screen. It has the remains of a fine traceried canopy, below which is the tomb chest, similar to the high altar in general appearance but with figures in relief on the arcaded panels of the front. (The Crucifixion in the centre, with the Virgin Mary and St. John on either side; at the left-hand end is a friar, probaly St. Dominic, next towhom is a figure robed and crowned, carrying a sword, with a small circle on the breast, possibly the wheel of St Catherine, the third figure onthis side being a figure (? female) in a long gown secured by a belt,
carrying a staff with a pear-shaped
end, possibly a pilgrim; at the far right is an archbishop holding a
processional cross, with his hand raised in benediction, next to whom is St.
Peter with the keys, the third position being occupied by St. Michael the
the tomb chest, is incomplete, but the date (1506) and the name Cormac O'Craian can be read: his wife's name is less certain, but it may be Johanna Nic Aengusa (or Ennis)."
"There are also several early 17th century armorial stones, forming portions of monuments now destroyed. The earliest of these, dated 1616, is built into the recess of the O'Craian tomb and bears the arms of the same family (argent, a wolf rampant sable, between these hearts gules) impaled with those of French (ermine, a chevron sable). The initials A.C. and E.F seem to be those of Andrew Crean and his wife. This may be the same Andrew Crean of Annagh to whom Elinor, Countess of Desmond, O'Connor Sligo's widow, left £100 in 1636. The hearts in the Crean arms and the inscription on the lower edge of the stone:
Cor mundum crea in me Deus et spiritum rectum innova in visceribus meis
'Create a clean heart in me, O God, and renew a right spirit within my bowels' probably constitute a punning allusion to the Irish word for heart (croidhe), the the sound of which resembles that of the name Crean.
Another stone, dated 1625, bears the Crean arms impaled witha rampant lion, apparantly for Jones. Across the base is carved two curious rhyme:
Wee two are one by his decree
That raigneth from eternity
Who first erected have these stones
Wee robucre Crean Elicia Jones"
I don't know if the above confuses
us all further or if it helps. It certainly suggests that the O'Craian family
were of high standing asthe tomb is of similar size to an O'Connor tomb in the
Friary. These arethe O'Connor Sligo family who were lords of Sligo for
centuries and wereone of the leading families of
I have another source which refers
to the Crean mechants from
While the title might suggest that ti concentrates on the Church, it also goes into great detail on the lives of people and politics during this period. I would highly recommend it for anyone with roots inSligo.
In case you don't know, the Diocese of Achonry comprises one-third of Co. Sligo, one-fifth of Co. Mayo and one parish (Ballaghaderreen) from Co. Roscommon. It covers the Baronies of Gallen, Leyny, Costello,
Corran and Coolavin.
In one place in the book, it refers
to an Act of 1704 which requiredall Catholic priests to register. In order to
register, each priest had to have 2 sureties or guarantors, for £50 each.
"Two members of the Crean family of
John Crean and John Lamey gave sureties also for priests of their own diocese of Elphin. ........
The Creans, John and Stephen, belonged to an old and distinguishedSligo family which ranked second only to the O'Connor Sligo family. Their residence was known as O'Crean's Castle and between the 15th and 17th
centuries they were a family of great wealth and high station and foremost among the merchant princes of that era. They lost much oftheir property as a result of the 1641 rebellion.".
It gives the book "Ballysadare and Kilvarnet" by O'Rorke, pages 476-7as a reference for this information.
All of the above strongly suggests
that the Crean/O'Craian family were of very high standing in
From:Fatarm@aol.com Add to Address BookDate:Tue, 29 Sep 1998 23:07:51 EDTSubject:[CRYAN-L] MacCrohan, Croghan; (O) Crehan; Creighton -- MacLysaght's take on it allTo:CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
MacCrohan, Croghan; (O) Crehan; Creighton -- MacLysaght's take on it alltranscribed below from "More Irish Families" p. 68-9:
MacCrohan, Croghan; (O) Crehan;
Creighton : These are three
distinctsurnamesof quite different origin, but liable to be confused. MacCrohan, withwhichthe prefix Mac is almost
always retained, is a Kerry name, the septbeing abranch of the O'Sullivans with
whom they were regularly associated: they wererecorded, for example, as
providing 40 men for O'Sullivan's army in1596.Their seat was the castle of
Letter, near Cahirciveen. In the
penaltimesthey were reduced to obscurity in
MacCroghans of Kerry were subsequently attainted as Jacobites. Croghan, however, is listed both by Matheson and Woulfe as adistinctname, the latter giving MacConchruachan as the form in Irish and
explaining itas "son of the
hound of Croghan": Croghan, the
ancient royal seat ofConnact,is a place in
however,which would be an approximate phonetic rendering of the IrishMacCriomhthiann,occurs in the Fiants only in County Wexford and some other LeinsterCounties.The name of the Kerry seanchaidhe, Thomas O Criomthainn, so well knownfor hisAn tOileanach (the Islandman) is so printed in that and other books. As thisis always a Mac not an O name, this form is remarkable. The MacCrohans of Kerry sometimes appear also as MacCrehan, e.g.,in apatent of James I wherein the chief is called MacCrehan alias
O'Sullivan.Crehan, however, normally without a prefix in modern times, is entirelydifferent, being usually O Creachain in Irish: this sept belonged tothe HyFiachrach group and was located in the barony of Tirawley, County Mayo,itsmodern representatives being almost all found in that county and County
among the Scottish applicants for
lands at the time of the
one ofthis family: he was born at Athlone. Edward Creighton (1820-1874) wasatelegraph
pioneer in the
From:Fatarm@aol.com Add to Address BookDate:Tue, 29 Sep 1998 23:36:58 EDTSubject:[CRYAN-L] 1796 Spinning Wheel Index of NamesTo:CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
Pat R. kindly explained to me (and far better than I ever could, evenif I hadknown) what the 1796 Spinning Wheel Index of Names is, and I quote:
"As I understand it, the Linen manufacturers, in order to encourage theincreasedplanting of flax throughout the country, promised a spinning wheel toeachfarmer who would turn over an acre of land to flax. The advantage thatthislist offers is the naming of tenants rather than just land owners at atime
that is not covered by other records.
"The All Ireland Heritage
Series Edition of the Alphabetical Index totheNames contained in the Premium Entitlement
lists of the Trustees of theLinen and Hempen Manufacturers of
Below is a transcription from the Index, and my last big posting forseveralweeks! (promise!)
NAME: COUNTY; PARISH/BARONY
Craghan, John: Meath; Kilberry
Crane, Honora: Roscommon; Kilumad
Crean, Edward: Kerry; Kilgobbin
Crean, Michael: Kerry; Kielquant
Crean, Peter: Kerry; Kilgobbin
Creegan, Bridget: Longford; Bar of Granard
Creegan, Daniel: Leitrim; Cloone
Creegan, James: Leitrim; Cloone
Creegan, John: Leitrim; Cloone
Creegan, Mathew: Leitrim; Cloone
Creen, John: Down; Kilclief
Creen, John: Down; Maghera
Creen, John: Roscommon; Kilumad
Creen, Michael: Down; Ballyculter
Cregan, Claudius: Tyrone; Cappagh
Cregan, Patrick: Tyrone; Clonfecle
Creighan, Bryan: Monaghan; Kilmore
Creighan, Bryan: Monaghan; Monaghan
Creighan, Edward: Monaghan; Kilmore
Creighan, Elener: Monaghan; Kilmore
Creighan, John: Monaghan; Kilmore
Creighan, Philip: Monaghan; Kilmore
Creighan, Stephen: Monaghan; Kilmore
Creighen, Edward: Monaghan; Drumsnat
Crien, Owen: Roscommon; Boyle
Crien, Owen: Roscommon; Killucan
Crien, Peter: Roscommon; Killucan
Crigan, Patrick: Tyrone; Aughalow
Criggan, John: Fermanagh; Enniskillen
Crine, Widow: Roscommon; Killmore
Crinnan, James: Louth; Darver
Crinnan, Margaret: Louth; Darver
Crinnan, Mark: Louth; Dromiskin
Crinnan, Michael: Louth; Darver
Crinnion, Patrick: Louth; Ardee
Crinnion, Peter: Louth; Clonkeen
Crinnon, Nicholas: Meath; Rushwell
Crinnon, Patrick: Meath; Killery
Crodan, Patrick: Longford; Barony of Granard
Crogan, Terence: Tyrone; Clonfecle
Croghan, Darby: Roscommon; Boyle
Croghan, James: Roscommon; Kilumad
Croghan, Michael: Roscommon; Kilumad
Croghan, Parson: Roscommon; Tobohin
Croghan, Patrick: Roscommon; Kiltrustan
Croghan, Thomas: Westmeath; St. Feighan
Crohon, Bat.: Kerry; Ventry
Crohon, James: Kerry; Kielquane
Crohon, John: Kerry; Kielquane
Crohon, Philip: Kerry; Dunqueen
Cronan, Patrick: Cavan; Crousherlough
Cronen, Patrick: Kerry; Balliancourty
Cronoge, Anne: Leitrim; Kiltaughert [I haven't come across this
Cronoge, Bryan: Leitrim; Kiltaughert
Cronoge, John: Leitrim; Kiltaughert
Cryan, Bryan: Roscommon; Kilcooly
Cryan, Murtagh: Roscommon; Elphin
Cryan, Owen: Roscommon; Kilcooly
M'Creaghan, Michael: Tyrone; Lissen
M'Crohon, Owen: Kerry; Kieldrum
< >From:"Family History" < > Add to Address
BookSubject:Re: [CRYAN-L] O Craian/Crean of
Thank you Michael, that is brilliant.I had thought that this information would only be available in alibrary inSligo. It also shows that we are going in the right direction. We nowneedto get the family connections further back to see where we fit in.You have also answered my questions about the diocese of Achonry - thankyou.Until again ,take care, Eve
Date:Wed, 30 Sep 1998 14:28:11 -0400From:Jim Ogg <J_JOgg@compuserve.com> Add to Address BookSubject:[Fwd: Taking Genealogy Too Seriously.......]To:Cathy Amatnieks <firstname.lastname@example.org>,Beth Banks <email@example.com>,Malcolm Craik <firstname.lastname@example.org>,Kevin Cryan <email@example.com>,Linda Donovan Evans <firstname.lastname@example.org>,Thelma Gledhill <email@example.com>,Bobbie & John Hoechlin <firstname.lastname@example.org>,Trish Hopkins <email@example.com>,Rhonda Little <Little4580@aol.com>,Mary Lyons <firstname.lastname@example.org>,Ann Osborne <WillowPond_Lympsham@compuserve.com>,"Dr. Barry Potvin" <email@example.com>,Bill & Jean Putnam <firstname.lastname@example.org>,"Robert H. Wheelock" <RHWheelock@aol.com>,Brian Seddon <email@example.com>,Greg Latham <Greg@lathamg.freeserve.co.uk>
Dear Fellow Researchers,This was
emailed to me from another researcher in
YOU KNOW YOU'RE TAKING GENEALOGY TOO SERIOUSLY IF ...
You are the only person to show up at the cemetery research partywith a shovel.
To put the "final touches" on your genealogical research, you'veasked all of your closest relatives to provide DNA samples.
You were instrumental in having "non-genealogical use of thegenealogy room copy machine" classified as a federal hate crime.
Your house leans slightly toward the side where your genealogicalrecords are stored.
You decided to take a two-week break from genealogy, and the U.S.Postal Office immediately laid off 1,500 employees.
Out of respect for your best friend's unquestioned reputation forhonesty and integrity, you are willing to turn off that noisysurveillancecamera while she reviews your 57 genealogical research notebooks in your
home. The armed security guard, however, will remain.
You plod merrily along "refining" your recently published familyhistory, blissfully unaware that the number of errata pages now farexceeds the number of pages in your original publication.
During an ice storm and power outage, you ignore the pleas of yourshivering spouse and place your last quilt around that 1886 photographofdear Uncle George.
The most recent document in your "Missing Ancestors" file is a 36-page contract between you and Johnson Billboard Advertising Company.
Ed McMahon, several t.v. cameras and an envelope from PublishersClearing House arrive at your front door on Super Bowl Sunday, and thefirst thing you say is, "Are you related to the McMahons of Ohio?"
"A Loving Family" and "Financial Security" have moved up to secondand third, respectively, on your list of life's goals, but still lag farbehind "Owning My Own Microfilm Reader."
A magical genie appears and agrees to grant your any one wish, andyou ask that the 1890 census be restored.
Warm regards,Joan Ogg
From:Fatarm@aol.com Add to Address BookDate:Fri, 2 Oct 1998 00:52:02 EDTSubject:[CRYAN-L] I have to say, I'm impressedTo:CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
Both with Michael's knowledge and posting and with Lyle's webpage. Besure tocheck it out: <A HREF="http://members.tripod.com/~havana_2/">DanialCryan-Ire.Can.and USA</A>.... and I'm just going to assume that the Lemmings are a reference tohowcaught up genealogists get .... (now even you Crean and Croghan typesarecurious, aren't you?)Thus, I'm going to post my names again to the list, in case there's a
connection waiting to happen:Robert CRYAN (1840-1901, S. Dublin), RIC Constable, m. Frances FOX
(1853-1917,Bronx, NY, USA), housewife and housekeeper.Their offspring:Katherine CRYAN (Sr. Mary Vincentia)Agnes CRYAN SMYTH (1887, Castlebar, Mayo-1968), Linde Air employee, myGgrandmom
- her great grandson, my brother, is named after her, Daniel CryanBirch
Mary CRYAN GUNNIGLE m. Peter
Ellen CRYAN O'NEILL m. Tom
Anne CRYAN CAULFIELD m. James
Thomas CRYAN m. ? -- all died of tuberculosis (Tom, wife & twin
Jack (john?) CRYAN
Robert CRYAN m. ?, had one daughter Dorothy CRYAN STOKES and two sons
If any of you Cryan researchers have a Robert anywhere in your
research, letme know -- they were rare (Robert + Cryan). Thanks, Leslie
==== CRYAN Mailing List ====
Have you posted your research line to the list recently? In two months
we grew to over 30 researchers. Known surname variations being
researched by subscribers to list: MacCrohan/MacCroghan, Crain, Cryan,
Crehan, Cr¬an/Craine, Cregan, Crehan/Crane, and Craun/Crahan.
From:Harvey.Wohlwend@SEMATECH.Org Add to Address BookDate:Fri, 02 Oct 1998 08:31:22 -0500Subject:RE: [CRYAN-L] I have to say, I'm impressedTo:CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
Thanks for posting your list of ancestors which linked me to the veryinformative web site about my ancestors! My mother is Eleanor Cryan, B:1917, and her father was Joseph DanielCryan,
B:1863. I grew up in Kingston Township, near Geneseo and Cayuga, NorthDakota,towns mentioned frequently at the web site. I visited Joseph and Anna'sgraveswith my mother this past July.
Incidentally, a Robert Cryan was born in Watertown SD in 1967. Hisfather wasCharles, Jr., B:1933, and his grandfather was Charles, Sr. B:1906, myuncle.
Thanks, Harvey Wohlwend Austin, Texas
end of printed emails
From:firstname.lastname@example.org (Lyle Staehnke) Add to Address BookDate:Fri, 2 Oct 1998 13:18:05 -0700 (PDT)Subject:[CRYAN-L] RE: Miscellaneous Cryan Info:To:CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
Cryan Family Of Boyle, Co. Roscommon [ Follow Ups ] [ The
Leitrim-Roscommon Bulletin Board ] [ FAQ ] Posted by Maureen McCourt
Nantista on May 02, 1997 at 01:00:06: Am interested in hearing from
anyone with information concerning the Cryans of Boyle Parish. My own
family is as follows: 1. Peter CRYAN (abt 1798) sp. Araeta MATTIMOE (abt
1798) 2. Catherine CRYAN (1823) 2. Peter CRYAN (1824) 2. Michael CRYAN
(1826) sp. Mary DURR (1828) 3. Mary Ann CRYAN (1853) ? sp. James BRENNAN
(1853) 3. Michael CRYAN (1855-1933) sp. Bridget CASEY (1855-1917) 4.
Michael J. CRYAN (1881-1961) 4. Jane CRYAN (1882-1951) sp- Michael
CUNNINGHAM(1881-1962) 4. John CRYAN (1884-1929) sp. Sarah MCINTOSH
(1889-1967) 4. Bridget CRYAN (1885-1963) sp. James SCANLON (?-1973) 4.
Patrick Joseph CRYAN (1887-1917) sp. Julia GAINE (1894) 4. Mary Anne
CRYAN (1888-1894) 4. Peter CRYAN (1890-1917) 4. Catherine CRYAN
(1892-1911) 4. Eugene CRYAN (1894-1913) 4. Francis Joseph CRYAN
(1897-1960) 4. Leo Augustine CRYAN (1899-1981) 3. Elizabeth CRYAN (1857)
3. Peter CRYAN (1860) 3. Patrick CRYAN (1862) 3. John CRYAN (1864) 3.
John CRYAN (1866) The family lived in Deerpark and Boyle. Michael CRYAN
(1855-1933) was well known and steward of the Catholic Club. His sons
Michael J., Francis and Leo formed the popular Boyle Havana Band. Leo
was also the govt. insurance agent in Boyle. In addition to CRYAN
relatives I would like to learn of any DURR or CASEY cousins of this
family. Will supply additional information to anyone interested. Thank
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The National Archives of Ireland Search results Found 2 records matching
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SURNAME: CRYAN OTHER NAMES: JOHN AGE: 28 SEX: M ALIAS: PLACE OF TRIAL:
Co. Sligo TRIAL DATE: 20/06/1848 PLACE OF IMPRISONMENT: DOCUMENT DATE:
CRIME DESCRIPTION: Burglary with intent SENTENCE: Transportation 7 yrs
SHIP: London PETITIONER: RELATIONSHIP: DOCUMENT REFERENCES: TR 8, P 142
MICROFILM REFERENCES: COMMENTS: Record 2 of 2 SURNAME: CRYAN OTHER
NAMES: JOHN AGE: 0 SEX: M ALIAS: PLACE OF TRIAL: Sligo TRIAL DATE:
20/06/1849 PLACE OF IMPRISONMENT: kilmainham DOCUMENT DATE: 24/03/1850
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Ontario Cemetery Finding Aid Search Results For information on the
Database Fields, see the OCFA Field Information page. Name: CRYAN, Annie
(Clyne) Cemetery: Avondale, Stratford (Roman Catholic sections) County:
Perth Township: Downie Reference: PH-286-3 Name: CRYAN, David Cemetery:
Avondale, Stratford (Roman Catholic sections) County: Perth Township:
Downie Reference: PH-286-3 Name: CRYAN, Ellen Cemetery: St Josephs Roman
Catholic County: Perth Township: Ellice Reference: PH-000-0 Name: CRYAN,
John Cemetery: St Josephs Roman Catholic County: Perth Township: Ellice
Reference: PH-000-0 Name: CRYAN, Valentine Cemetery: Avondale, Stratford
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10, 1998, 12:19am (PDT+3) To: firstname.lastname@example.org (Lyle Staehnke)
Subject: Cryan in OCFA 6 Lyle, Here are the CRYAN entries in OCFA 6:
"CRYAN","-","Holy Angels Roman Catholic, St
Freeman","Avondale, Stratford (Range
18)","Perth","Downie","PH-288-X","C650" "CRYAN","Charles J.","Holy
Angels Roman Catholic, St Thomas","Elgin","Yarmouth","EL-535","C650"
"CRYAN","Charles L.","Holy Angels Roman Catholic, St
Thomas","Elgin","Yarmouth","EL-535","C650" "CRYAN","Delia S.","Holy
Angels Roman Catholic, St Thomas","Elgin","Yarmouth","EL-535","C650"
"CRYAN","Emerson S.","Holy Angels Roman Catholic, St
P.","Avondale, Stratford (Range 18)","Perth","Downie","PH-288-X","C650"
"CRYAN","Nellie Kelterborn","Avondale, Stratford (Range
18)","Perth","Downie","PH-288-X","C650" "CRYAN","Wilfred C.","Avondale,
Stratford (Range 18)","Perth","Downie","PH-288-X","C650" I hope they are
some use to you. Cheers, Charlie Dobie, email@example.com
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MOOREGarda-Neptune M1478, 4+, 2-, 2xGerry MURPHYNeptuneM1488, 4+ Eunan
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From:firstname.lastname@example.org (Lyle Staehnke) Add to Address BookDate:Sat, 3 Oct 1998 11:15:54 -0700 (PDT)Subject:[CRYAN-L] 1885 CensusTo:CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
Date:Sat, 03 Oct 1998 17:12:27 -0400From:leonard w crean <email@example.com> Add to Address BookReply-To:firstname.lastname@example.orgSubject:[CRYAN-L] my Crean lineTo:CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
Fellow Crean's can anyone relate to my line below:
Descendants of Dennis Crean
Generation No. 1
1. DENNIS1 CREAN was born Abt. 1780 in IRELAND, and died Abt. 1850 in
IRELAND. He married HANNAH.
Child of DENNIS CREAN and HANNAH is:
2. i. CORNELIUS2 CREAN, b. Abt. 1810, CORK,IRELAND; d. May 22, 1876,
Generation No. 2
2. CORNELIUS2 CREAN (DENNIS1) was born Abt. 1810 in CORK,IRELAND1, and
died May 22, 1876 in Rockport,Essex,Massachusetts1. He married
CATHERINE SULLIVAN 1836 in IRELAND.
Children of CORNELIUS CREAN and CATHERINE SULLIVAN are:
3. i. DENNIS3 CREAN, b. August 20, 1846, CORK,IRELAND; d. September 20,
1887, Salem, Essex, Massachusetts.
4. ii. JOHN CREAN, b. 1849, CORK,IRELAND.
5. iii. JEREMIAH J. CREAN, b. May 01, 1857, CORK,IRELAND; d. September
04, 1890, Salem,Essex,Massachusetts.
iv. JULIA CREAN, b. 18602.
6. v. MARY J. CREAN, b. May 1860, CORK,IRELAND; d. November 29, 1896,
vi. HANNAH CREAN, b. 1863, ROCKPORT,ESSEX,MA.2; d. August 02, 1949,
vii. CATHERINE J. CREAN, b. 1865, ROCKPORT,ESSEX,MA.4; d. November 02,
Generation No. 3
3. DENNIS3 CREAN (CORNELIUS2, DENNIS1) was born August 20, 1846 in
CORK,IRELAND6, and died September 20, 1887 in Salem, Essex,
Massachusetts7. He married ELLEN FREEMAN 1868 in IRELAND, daughter of
MICHAEL FREEMEN and HARRIET DURKIN.
Notes for DENNIS CREAN:
Came to New York in July 22,1862 and became a citizen on Nov.6,1876.
Last name was spelled Crane until 1870 census then it was Crean.
Notes for ELLEN FREEMAN:
Buried in St. Marys Cemetery Salem
Children of DENNIS CREAN and ELLEN FREEMAN are:
7. i. CORNELIUS J.4 CREAN, b. August 03, 1869,
Rockport,Essex,Massachusetts; d. 1942, Salem, Essex, Massachusetts.
ii. HARRIET F. CREAN, b. October 1870, Rockport,Essex,Massachusetts8.
8. iii. DENNIS MICHAEL CREAN, b. February 21, 1872,
Rockport,Essex,Massachusetts; d. May 16, 1954, Salem, Essex,
iv. MICHAEL CREAN, b. July 21, 1873, Rockport,Essex,Massachusetts9; d.
December 05, 1881, Salem,Essex,Massachusetts10.
v. CATHERINE GERTRUDE CREAN, b. April 03, 1875,
Rockport,Essex,Massachusetts11; m. JOHN JOSEPH BARRY, November 28, 1916,
vi. MARY ELLEN CREAN, b. October 08, 1876,
Rockport,Essex,Massachusetts13; m. JOHN W. BRENNEN.
vii. JULIA CREAN, b. November 1878, Salem,Essex,Massachusetts14; d.
November 27, 1880, Salem,Essex,Massachusetts15.
4. JOHN3 CREAN (CORNELIUS2, DENNIS1) was born 1849 in CORK,IRELAND16.
He married MARY REAGAN July 22, 1879 in SALEM,ESSEX,MASS.16, daughter of
PATRICK REAGAN and ELLEN REAGAN.
Notes for JOHN CREAN:
HE LIVED IN ROCKPORT,MA. IN 1879
Notes for MARY REAGAN:
SHE LIVED IN SALEM,MA. IN 1879
Child of JOHN CREAN and MARY REAGAN is:
i. CATHERINE E.4 CREAN, b. June 01, 1880, ROCKPORT,ESSEX,MA.17; d. Abt.
5. JEREMIAH J.3 CREAN (CORNELIUS2, DENNIS1) was born May 01, 1857 in
CORK,IRELAND18, and died September 04, 1890 in
Salem,Essex,Massachusetts19. He married CATHERINE J. BUCKLEY January
28, 1881 in Salem,Essex,Massachusetts20, daughter of WILLIAM BUCKLEY and
Children of JEREMIAH CREAN and CATHERINE BUCKLEY are:
9. i. CORNELIUS J.4 CREAN, b. January 28, 1882,
Salem,Essex,Massachusetts; d. August 09, 1966,
ii. WILLIAM F. CREAN, b. July 04, 1882, SALEM,ESSEX,MASS.21; d. October
02, 1941, SALEM,ESSEX,MASS.22.
iii. JEREMIAH FRANCIS CREAN, b. December 26, 1884, SALEM,ESSEX,MASS.23;
d. February 07, 1957, SALEM,ESSEX,MASS.24; m. HELEN FRANCES REIDY, June
05, 1918, PEABODY,ESSEX,MA.by N.J.MURPHY PRIEST25.
iv. MARY CREAN, b. January 19, 1887, SALEM,ESSEX,MASS.26; d. 1896,
v. CHARLES F. CREAN, b. August 31, 1889, SALEM,ESSEX,MASS.27; d. August
28, 1967, SALEM,ESSEX,MASS.28; m. CATHERINE J. MCDONALD, 1916.
6. MARY J.3 CREAN (CORNELIUS2, DENNIS1) was born May 1860 in
CORK,IRELAND29, and died November 29, 1896 in SALEM,ESSEX,MASS.30. She
married DENNIS WELCH November 25, 1880 in SALEM,ESSEX,MASS.31, son of
WALTER WELCH and MARY LINSKEY.
Children of MARY CREAN and DENNIS WELCH are:
i. MARY J.4 WELCH, b. August 1881.
ii. WALTER WELCH, b. August 09, 1884, QUINCY,SUFFORK,MA32.
10. iii. NORA TRERESA WELCH, b. April 08, 1890, CAMBRIDGE,SUFFORK,MA; d.
July 06, 1968, SOMERVILLE,SUFFORK,MA.
iv. DENNIS MARTIN WELCH,JR, b. July 03, 1892, CAMBRIDGE,SUFFORK,MA32.
v. JOHN WELCH, b. May 189432.
Generation No. 4
7. CORNELIUS J.4 CREAN (DENNIS3, CORNELIUS2, DENNIS1) was born August
03, 1869 in Rockport,Essex,Massachusetts33, and died 1942 in Salem,
Essex, Massachusetts. He married MARY A. KERWIN October 11, 1905 in
PEABODY,ESSEX,MA.BY M.J.MASTERSON CLERGYMAN34, daughter of PATRICK
KERWIN and JENNIE BULGER.
Children of CORNELIUS CREAN and MARY KERWIN are:
11. i. ARTHUR J.5 CREAN, b. October 01, 1906, Salem, Essex,
Massachusetts; d. March 06, 1996, Salem, Essex, Massachusetts.
12. ii. RAYMOND J. CREAN, b. February 09, 1909, Salem, Essex,
Massachusetts; d. August 1986, TEXAS 78050.
8. DENNIS MICHAEL4 CREAN (DENNIS3, CORNELIUS2, DENNIS1) was born
February 21, 1872 in Rockport,Essex,Massachusetts35, and died May 16,
1954 in Salem, Essex, Massachusetts36. He married MARGRET ROSE MULCAHY
June 14, 1903 in Salem, Essex, Massachusetts37, daughter of JAMES
MULCAHY and MARY MCKEON.
Notes for DENNIS MICHAEL CREAN:
BURIED IN ST. MARYS CEME. SALEM LOT# 429 20 ST. REAR
Children of DENNIS CREAN and MARGRET MULCAHY are:
13. i. DENNIS J.5 CREAN, b. December 23, 1904, SALEM,MASS.; d. March 28,
ii. JAMES CREAN, b. December 23, 1904, SALEM,MASS.; d. December 23,
iii. MARY M. CREAN, b. 1906, Salem,Essex,Massachusetts; d. September
20, 1920, Salem,Essex,Massachusetts38.
Notes for MARY M. CREAN:
BURIED WITH GRANDPARENTS MULCAHY AT ST. MARY'S CEME. SALEM LOT 211
14. iv. WALTER FRANCIS CREAN,SR., b. September 01, 1908, Salem, Essex,
Massachusetts; d. May 03, 1995, Beverly,Essex,Massachusetts.
15. v. CATHERINE H. CREAN, b. April 24, 1910, Salem,Essex,Massachusetts;
d. October 1983, Salem,Essex,Massachusetts.
vi. CHARLES C. CREAN, b. 1912, Salem,Essex,Massachusetts; d. November
30, 1962, Salem,Essex,Massachusetts.
Notes for CHARLES C. CREAN:
BURIED IN ST. MARY'S SALEM
16. vii. ELLEN MARIE CREAN, b. July 28, 1916, SALEM,MASS.; d. October
9. CORNELIUS J.4 CREAN (JEREMIAH J.3, CORNELIUS2, DENNIS1) was born
January 28, 1882 in Salem,Essex,Massachusetts39, and died August 09,
1966 in Salem,Essex,Massachusetts40. He married CATHERINE M. DUNLEAVY
June 14, 1904 in Salem,Essex,Massachusetts41, daughter of PETER DUNLEAVY
and MARGARET MOONEY.
Children of CORNELIUS CREAN and CATHERINE DUNLEAVY are:
i. MARY MARGARET5 CREAN, b. 1905; d. May 11, 1965,
Salem,Essex,Massachusetts; m. BERRY.
ii. CATHERINE J. CREAN, b. 1907; d. August 05, 1930,
SALEM,ESSEX,MASS.42; m. MACDONALD.
17. iii. CHARLES J. CREAN, b. October 01, 1908; d. June 12, 1990,
18. iv. JOSEPH L. CREAN, b. 1911, Salem, Essex, Massachusetts; d. Abt.
1940, Salem, Essex, Massachusetts.
19. v. ANNA ELIZABETH CREAN, b. October 14, 1911, SALEM,ESSEX,MASS..
20. vi. GERALD JOHN CREAN, b. August 05, 1913, SALEM,ESSEX,MASS.; d.
July 24, 1981, BEVERLY,ESSEX,MASSACHUSETTS.
vii. HELEN M CREAN, b. May 1916, SALEM,ESSEX,MASSACHUSETTS43; m. REGAN.
viii. RITA CREAN, b. 1920; m. BERRY.
10. NORA TRERESA4 WELCH (MARY J.3 CREAN, CORNELIUS2, DENNIS1) was born
April 08, 1890 in CAMBRIDGE,SUFFORK,MA44, and died July 06, 1968 in
SOMERVILLE,SUFFORK,MA44. She married JOHN ANTHONY MCCARTHY June 07,
Children of NORA WELCH and JOHN MCCARTHY are:
i. DOROTHY5 MCCARTHY.
ii. GERTRUDE MCCARTHY, m. JAMES SHEEHAN.
iii. WILLIAM MCCARTHY.
iv. WINIFRED MCCARTHY.
v. THOMAS MCCARTHY, b. 1911.
vi. JOHN MCCARTHY,JR, b. 1913.
21. vii. MARY MCCARTHY, b. 1914.
22. viii. MARKIE MCCARTHY, b. 1915.
23. ix. ELEANOR LOUISE MCCARTHY, b. 1917; d. 1985.
x. CATHERINE MCCARTHY, b. 1923; m. JOHN DEY.
xi. RITA MCCARTHY, b. 1928; m. CHARLES KELLIHER.
xii. ROSE M. MCCARTHY, b. 1928; m. RICHARD J. DALEY.
Generation No. 5
11. ARTHUR J.5 CREAN (CORNELIUS J.4, DENNIS3, CORNELIUS2, DENNIS1) was
born October 01, 1906 in Salem, Essex, Massachusetts, and died March 06,
1996 in Salem, Essex, Massachusetts45. He married M. FLORENCE HEALEY in
Salem, Essex, Massachusetts.
Children of ARTHUR CREAN and M. HEALEY are:
24. i. KEVIN A.6 CREAN, b. December 29, 1938, Salem, Essex,
25. ii. MARCIA CREAN, b. Unknown, Salem, Essex, Massachusetts.
12. RAYMOND J.5 CREAN (CORNELIUS J.4, DENNIS3, CORNELIUS2, DENNIS1) was
born February 09, 1909 in Salem, Essex, Massachusetts, and died August
1986 in TEXAS 78050. He married BRODERICK.
Child of RAYMOND CREAN and BRODERICK is:
26. i. RAYMOND J.6 CREAN,JR, b. October 30, 1937.
13. DENNIS J.5 CREAN (DENNIS MICHAEL4, DENNIS3, CORNELIUS2, DENNIS1)
was born December 23, 1904 in SALEM,MASS., and died March 28, 1983 in
LYNN,MA.. He married CATHERINE V. O'CONNER.
Notes for DENNIS J. CREAN:
BOTH BURIED IN ST. MARYS CEME.SALEM
Child of DENNIS CREAN and CATHERINE O'CONNER is:
i. NO6 KIDS.
14. WALTER FRANCIS5 CREAN,SR. (DENNIS MICHAEL4, DENNIS3, CORNELIUS2,
DENNIS1) was born September 01, 1908 in Salem, Essex, Massachusetts46,
and died May 03, 1995 in Beverly,Essex,Massachusetts47. He married
DOROTHY MILLDRED MACDONOUGH December 28, 1941 in
Beverly,Essex,Massachusetts48, daughter of FRANCIS MACDONOUGH and ADDA
Children of WALTER CREAN and DOROTHY MACDONOUGH are:
15. CATHERINE H.5 CREAN (DENNIS MICHAEL4, DENNIS3, CORNELIUS2, DENNIS1)
was born April 24, 1910 in Salem,Essex,Massachusetts, and died October
1983 in Salem,Essex,Massachusetts. She married GEORGE ROBINSON in
16. ELLEN MARIE5 CREAN (DENNIS MICHAEL4, DENNIS3, CORNELIUS2, DENNIS1)
was born July 28, 1916 in SALEM,MASS., and died October 1981 in
SALEM,MASS.. She met JOSEPH.
Child of ELLEN CREAN and JOSEPH is:
i. FRANCIS6 W.CREAN, b. October 22, 1939, SALEM,MASS.; d. July 13,
Notes for FRANCIS W.CREAN:
Was in USAF in 1960
17. CHARLES J.5 CREAN (CORNELIUS J.4, JEREMIAH J.3, CORNELIUS2,
DENNIS1) was born October 01, 1908, and died June 12, 1990 in
SALEM,ESSEX,MASS.. He married MARIE G., daughter of MURPHY.
Child of CHARLES CREAN and MARIE G. is:
i. NO KIDS6 CREAN.
18. JOSEPH L.5 CREAN (CORNELIUS J.4, JEREMIAH J.3, CORNELIUS2, DENNIS1)
was born 1911 in Salem, Essex, Massachusetts, and died Abt. 1940 in
Salem, Essex, Massachusetts. He married ELSIE M..
Child of JOSEPH CREAN and ELSIE M. is:
32. i. PETER6 CREAN, b. July 10, 1936, Salem, Essex, Massachusetts; d.
19. ANNA ELIZABETH5 CREAN (CORNELIUS J.4, JEREMIAH J.3, CORNELIUS2,
DENNIS1) was born October 14, 1911 in SALEM,ESSEX,MASS.49. She married
GEORGE FREDERICK MALONEY.
Child of ANNA CREAN and GEORGE MALONEY is:
i. PATRICIA6 MALONEY, b. Abt. 1946.
20. GERALD JOHN5 CREAN (CORNELIUS J.4, JEREMIAH J.3, CORNELIUS2,
DENNIS1) was born August 05, 1913 in SALEM,ESSEX,MASS.50, and died July
24, 1981 in BEVERLY,ESSEX,MASSACHUSETTS51. He married HELEN C. HAYES.
21. MARY5 MCCARTHY (NORA TRERESA4 WELCH, MARY J.3 CREAN, CORNELIUS2,
DENNIS1) was born 1914. She married VINCENT RYAN.
Children of MARY MCCARTHY and VINCENT RYAN are:
i. DONNA6 RYAN.
ii. VINCENT RYAN.
22. MARKIE5 MCCARTHY (NORA TRERESA4 WELCH, MARY J.3 CREAN, CORNELIUS2,
DENNIS1) was born 1915. She married JOHN F. KILDERRY,JR.
23. ELEANOR LOUISE5 MCCARTHY (NORA TRERESA4 WELCH, MARY J.3 CREAN,
CORNELIUS2, DENNIS1) was born 1917, and died 1985. She married JOHN
Check out Ireland's National Archives web site for information on
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From:Fatarm@aol.com Add to Address BookDate:Tue, 6 Oct 1998 22:33:13 EDTSubject:[CRYAN-L] Irish Times websiteTo:CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
I'm enjoying my holiday -- especially the part where I get access to aPentium
with a high speed modem and color printer! I'm finally getting around
to allthe web sites some of you have posted - and you're quite right that
some ofthem are great reading. Eve's favorite site listing [
Genealogy Bridge</A> ] was a good linking site, and lead me to some
Heraldryarticles I hadn't yet read and other Irish sites of interest.
And if you folks haven't checked out the Irish Times' site, this is a
goodtime to do so: <A HREF="http://www.irish-
they've got stuff searchable online.
I've also recently seen referenced the following LDS site, which may be
ofsome interest to those of you with less library access:
Information/News Update</A> -- I don't remember if I got it from a
how-to oran Ireland research mailing list. You should also explore the LDS'
otherpages. It's a good way to pick up other tidbits to help in research.
Michael T., have you posted your site to this mailing list recently? I
hadproblems with your counter (your page froze twice on me), apparently,
but itmight just be AOL. So I haven't gotten to all of it, but I like what
you did(especially in keeping the graphics simple - it was so fast!). I added
it toour mailing list taglines, hope you don't mind....
Lastly, another Cryan-ancestor-induced-anecdote. My grandma let this
one flylast night: "God bless us and save us, says Biddy O'Davis" -- sure
enough, itwas one of my Ggrandmom's faves (she was our last Cryan). I also
learned to"cut" biscuit dough -- who knew one actually used knives??? My french-
descended husband would be horrified (you should see him praying to his
pastries and other laminated desserts).Looking forward to reading your next, Leslie
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CONNECTING THROUGH ROOTSWEB: Thanks for sharing your stories.
I have been trying to locate someone from my uncle Gene's family
and for about six months I had no success. I logged on to ALBIBB
and connected with my uncle's granddaughter. We have a date to
continue our research in Alabama in about ten days. Thank you!
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When I started rooting about five years ago I thought my sister
and I were the only remaining members of the HOUSDEN family in
existence. At the time I didn't know about the Internet at all.
At the urging of a genealogy instructor I signed onto AOL and
posted my surname. Nothing happened. Then about two months later
as I was about to cancel my subscription and give up on the
Internet (what did I know about anything anyway?) I got a
response from a woman about five states away. She carried the
HOUSDEN surname, and thought, like I did, that her family was the
only one in existence. Did I want to talk? We both admit that for
the next month we wouldn't acknowledge our spouses, respond to
our children, answer the phone or pat the dog until we had
checked our e-mail to see what the other had sent.
Then I found RootsWeb. I now host a HOUSDEN surname list. Here's
the most exciting thing -- we now know that the original HOUSDEN
immigrant came to Virginia in 1769 as a convict and eventually
had nine children. Two of these children were girls who never
procreated or whose offspring died without issue. Two of these
children were girls who married and seemingly fell off the face
of the earth (although we think we have found them this summer).
We have descendants of the other five children as members of this
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is pretty impressive, I think, and possible only because of
RootsWeb and the Internet.
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LETTERS TO THE EDITORS
THE PRIVACY OF VULNERABLE PEOPLE. In "RootsWeb Review", Vol. 1.
No 16, 30 September, 1998, Ann Minter commented about the
improper use on the Internet of living family information which
had originally been provided on the assumption it was private and
that it was not to be disseminated.
Publishing such information could have serious effects. Many
people have periods in their lives when they are particularly
vulnerable, due to mental illness, divorce, bankruptcy, being
abused or bullied, drug taking, homelessness, an unwanted
pregnancy, etc. When such people are trying to rebuild their
lives they need all the support they can get from their friends
and relatives. Some people commit suicide simply because they are
irrationally haunted by the idea that everybody is talking about
them behind their backs and they will never be able to escape
from their past. When someone is depressed in this way about
their past difficulties, even quite small indiscretions can set
back their return to a full and normal life. Unnecessary and
inappropriate Internet publication of material that the
emotionally strong might consider as trivial details -- such as a
postal address at the time a relative was a patient in a
psychiatric hospital -- could have a negative effect on their
It is difficult to gauge the seriousness of indiscriminate
publishing of "vulnerable" personal data on the Internet by
genealogists. For instance, when people are depressed they are
unlikely to make a complaint about something that makes them
worse -- because the very act of complaining reminds them of the
cause of the depression and could send them on a downward spiral
of despair. For this reason overly-enthusiastic, thick-skinned,
"we publish everything for posterity" genealogists may well be
totally unaware of the damage they can cause to their more
sensitive distant living relatives.
As well as being a genealogist I am a director of a major mental
health charity, and before I retired I spent about 25 years
studying how people interact with computers. I am currently
collecting information on cases where vulnerable people have
suffered because of actions by genealogist geeks publishing
"unfortunate information" about living relatives. I would be very
interested to have details of any cases known by your readers (by
e-mail, and of course in strict confidence). As the privacy/data
protection laws vary around the world it would help if you
identify the countries involved.
Dr. Chris Reynolds <firstname.lastname@example.org>
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Why do people get so bent out of shape about people using their
raw data that they have collected? How many of these people use
the proper citations when they are claiming their research as
their own thing? If there is one thing I learned in College
English 101, it's that there is no original idea. Everything has
a source, and word of mouth doesn't count. If these people want
something they can get credit for, they need to write a book, get
it published, and have the protection of the law in their work.
Many people gather raw data. It doesn't become theirs until they
turn it into something of their own
Deanna Pitman <email@example.com>
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Around 10 years ago, I attended a Mexican funeral at the famous
old San Fernando Cathedral in San Antonio, Texas. The priest
offered the following story:
"We have a tradition in Mexico that each person dies three times.
First, there is the moment in which the body stops functioning.
Second, there is the time that the remains are consigned to the
grave. Third, there is that moment, sometime in the future, in
which the person's name is spoken for the last time. Then the
person is really gone."
Several years later, I got into genealogy and realized that
persons who preserve the memories of persons from their own
familial past, are preventing that third death.
Ted Klein, Lake Travis, Texas (firstname.lastname@example.org)
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GEEK SPEAK. Responding to a reader's request for resumption of
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apparently obtained it from the 9 September 1998 "Dummies Daily."
UNIX (Tip: rhymes with "tunics"). UNIX, which doesn't really
stand for anything, is the most popular network operating system
in the world, not to mention the operating system used to develop
the Internet and World Wide Web. It's also a real favorite of the
technological elite -- not only because it's very capable but
also because it's a deep, dark, intimidating mystery to the rest
of us. You're never surer of your technical inadequacy than when
you're peering over the shoulder of a UNIX programmer, watching
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GENEALOGY IS LIKE FISHING
by Doug Smith, senior producer, Palladium Interactive
A thought I had many years ago really struck home. It came to me
that genealogy is a lot like fishing. While I don't fish often, I
know enough from talking to those who do that putting your hook
in the wrong place could be as productive as dropping a hook in a
glass of water. Equally as important as where you fish and how
you bait the hook is having the ultimate patience of a fisherman.
The frustration of losing your bait or watching the catch swim
away prompts the same frustrations a genealogist can have when a
search leads nowhere.
Finding the right genealogical information is a lot like locating
the right pond, river, or fishing hole in order to catch a
specific kind of fish. The lure or the bait you choose also makes
Whenever I have difficulty finding data that I need to establish
a relationship, verify a name, date, or place, I think about
fishing. What would an angler do? It is a humorous and fun way of
keeping the search in perspective.
FINDING THE RIGHT POND. Random searches are never as productive
as directed searches. Knowing what you are looking for and why
you need it is as important as the search itself. I drop hooks in
the genealogical pond like this:
-- Place queries in quarterlies and magazines that are most
likely to be read by potential cousins.
-- Place queries in libraries in the locations where the people
that are the subject of my search lived or worked.
-- Subscribe to genealogical quarterlies in the counties and
states where the subjects of my searches have lived or died.
SELECT THE BAIT. Before you bait your hook study the bait. In
other words a squiggling worm is better than a dead one. If you
know something about the data you have dropped in the pond you
are far more likely to be successful in your search. Analyze the
data you have stored in Ultimate Family Tree. Compare dates with
historical events. Understand the quality of the information you
leave for others to find and leave enough information to affect a
match or attract attention.
POWER OF COMPUTERS. The research power included in Ultimate
Family Tree makes your fishing trips far more productive. You
can enter data, retrieve data and print data, but more
importantly you can record the sure level of the data, record
sources of information accurately, attach sources to specific
events, associate events with multiple people and places. Because
you have taken the time and effort to qualify the data, you are
confident of the quality of the information you use and that you
post in queries.
The power of computing has helped genealogists become better
organized. Computers have allowed us to analyze data to achieve
results in ways that were not possible just 10 short years ago.
Computers are to genealogy as radar is to fishing, and Ultimate
Family Tree <<a href="http://www.uftree.com" target=_blank>http://www.uftree.com> is the ultimate rod and reel.
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HUMOR. Thanks to G. Martin <email@example.com> (and others) for
sending the following "Top 10" list, author unknown.
TOP 10 INDICATORS THAT YOU'VE BECOME A GENE-AHOLIC
10. You introduce your daughter as your descendent.
9. You've never met any of the people you send e-mail to, even
though you're related.
8. You can recite your lineage back eight generations, but can't
remember your nephew's name.
7. You have more photographs of dead people than living ones.
6. You've ever taken a tape recorder and/or notebook to a family
5. You've not only read the latest GEDCOM standard, but also you
4. The local genealogy society borrows books from you.
3. The only film you've seen in the last year was the 1880
2. More than half of your CD collection is made up of marriage
records or pedigrees.
1. Your elusive ancestor has been spotted in more different
places than Elvis!
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Reply-To:"Family History" < >From:"Family History" < > Add to Address BookDate:Fri, 9 Oct 1998 09:28:30 +0100Subject:[CRYAN-L] CRYAN incidentalsTo:CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
Hi to everyone, I have been away for a week to Scotland and the Lake
District and so was looking foreward to all the CRYAN mail awaiting my
return !!! Sadly not a great deal. BUT a very big thank you to all
those carrying on the crusade. Very often ,and this is with other lists too, I feel as though I am
reading only part of the conversation and that more is being said/written which
I am not party to. It may be because the correspondance started before I
joined the list or it may be that some list members are writing to each other
and only periodically to the list. eg you said earlier that there had been a
discussion about the "FamilyMotto" - I do not know what has been said,
so I apologise for any repetition........... but on mentioning it to my
brother, he immediately recognised it as part of
the penitential psalm, Psalm 50/51
"Have mercy on me, O God, in your kindness" in which verse 6 is as
follows"A pure heart create for me ,O God
put a steadfast spirit within me.
Do not cast me away from your presence
nor deprive me from your Holy Spirit."..............
....The Latin text was parallel to this translation. I think that this is a fitting text for a
gravestone anyway but agree that it may have been chosen for the pun
that appears in the Latin. I would think therefore that the family MUST or at least one of
them MUST have been , well educated and versed in Latin. No schoolboy usage
here. I would love to know what was said on the list earlier.
I would like to make some suggestions:-
1, that relevant conversations are carried out on the list, because
often we do not know what we know until someone else's comments unearth
a memory or a resource. Sometimes a suggestion by one or a question by
another can result in a third fi nding that they have the information.
2, that requests for look-ups or other information be made to the
list in general rather than privately to individuals because there are lots
of different routes to the source materials. I have never seen anyone so
enthusiastic and as busy as Leslie, she is wonderful , but she can not
be expected to do everything.
3, that each list member gives some indication of what they are
doing and where they are interested in. It VERY OFTEN happens that several
months later while doing or reading something unrelated, one finds something
useful and can post it to the appropriate researcher. I know that some of us
belong to other lists which also can produce surprising pieces of information
and cross links. My former boss's motto was "Together we are stronger than
any one of us" !!!! What do you think?
4, that , and I think that this is MOST important, everyone makes a
point of acknowledging/saying thank you, for ALL replies made to one's
postings. Another list we belong to has had quite a thorough
correspondance of this point - I would rather it was not necessary, so I say it now. I
know it is very often unintentional, but folk become a little hurt when the
time and trouble are not recognised.
I think four suggestions are enough :
CRYAN at present Boyle, Drumrat and Kilfree parishes, currently looking
for a birth of John in 1843/4 and a birth of Daniel in 1846/7/8/ and their
parent's marriage. Am gradually creaping nearer by looking at the RC
parish registers. The area of interest is on the border of Co Sligo and Co
Roscommon. Until again, Eve - I am trying so hard to keep to my internet
diet , but it is so hard.
From:firstname.lastname@example.org (Lyle Staehnke) Add to Address BookDate:Fri, 9 Oct 1998 09:49:03 -0700 (PDT)Subject:Fwd: RE: [CRYAN-L]To:CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
Recent letter I sent to A cousin in Austin Texas..And thank`s to every
one for the effort put forth to keep us Cryan`s interested and active in
From: email@example.com (Lyle Staehnke)
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 19:44:00 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: RE: [CRYAN-L]
Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=ISO-8859-1
MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV)
Harvey, =A0=A0=A0=A0First of all please ask any question you want to,I am very
glad to find someone who is as interested in the Cryan`s family as I
am!! I`m retired so send as many e-mail`s and question`s as you
like,,the more the better.. I had thought you had already read my web
page. Any way here is the url
http://members.tripod.com/~havana_2/index.html By my reconing Danial
had 14 children by two wives (Margaret McDonagh and Mary Moran) I`ve
found his name to be Danial by many record`s.One way was in Lidgerwood
N.Dak. I went to the Parish Priest a couple year`s ago when I was back
there and asked what records they had on the Cryan`s.They had Thomas
Cryan`s record of him dying august 4 1917,and listed his dad a Danial
Cryan and mother as Mary "Moran" Cryan..Also I have it recorded on the
census of Morrisburg Canada.1851-1861-1871 and 1881 in Stormont
county,Ontario Canada. Michael Cryan was a brother to
Austin,Ellen,James, Thomas,Lucy and Joseph Cryan, Plus half brother to
seven older sibling`s. =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0I am just guessing he left Ireland in 1830,because Maria
Cryan was born in 1831 in Morrisburg Canada and he had two children
before born in Ireland,Martin born in 1823 and John whose birthdate I
don`t know.. So it`s just a guess.. Keep asking question`s and the more
the better, If you could see all the Photo copie`s I have it would be
much easier to grasp,, Lyle
From:Fatarm@aol.com Add to Address BookDate:Fri, 9 Oct 1998 16:53:22 EDTSubject:[CRYAN-L] My two centsTo:CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
First, thank you to everyone who subscribed to the list -- not that I'm
done seeking out interested individuals, but that big push will have to wait
a few days more -- because by doing so we're all a little closer to what we
seek. Second, is everyone else aware that another connection has been made by
Lyleand Harvey with their Dakota Cryans? I think it's very exciting -- and
also am a little envious. Thank you, and please continue sharing your
discovery of cousins!
But before I get carried away, I DO have to recall that not everyone
has the same amount of time to spend o n this part of their genealogy project,
or will be as interested in the same angles of family research that I am. I
confess to not being so intrigued in my particular Cryans as I am in the general
history of the family group in Ireland and Irish history (at least for
right now). However, I did advertize the list to many of you with the
phrase, "only generating 3-4 pieces of mail per week just now," and some subscribers
may not appreciate more.
Last, I think *just about* everyone has posted their research line
[this is another of my not so-subtle hints to get you silent folks to cough-up].
It might be interesting for some to share more tales of their Cryan
ancestors' lives, in or out of Ireland, to kind-of fill-in the waiting time. It'd
be fun to continue the informality of this list to try and meet everyone's
needs. And don't worry about thanks -- we're O'Creans, and as such, naturally
gracious! The last thing I would want to happen is for subscribers to
feel shy about posting, worrying about how polished their phrases are, or
being nervous about its reception.
--- Let's face it! I'm thrilled to think people are even reading our
postings! --- But I'm new at this and very open to direction, so please continue the
dialogue about this (it helps me think about what I'd like to get out
of this list, as I'm sure it does for others) -- Leslie (perhaps I would have
been better named Bridget so that you all could call me 'Biddy')
Reply-To:"Family History" < >From:"Family History" < > Add to Address BookDate:Sat, 10 Oct 1998 20:49:06 +0100Subject:[CRYAN-L] Re Parliamentary Gazeteer extractTo:CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
As a Catholic Parish, Glounthaune will not be an independent entry, the
book only contains civil parishes and other villages and towns. Many of the
names of parishes particularly RC parishes do not relate to any settlement
,so the first reqirement is to find civil parish and settlement
(village/town/townland). Townland, which is a subdivision of a civil
parishis often a good basis for a search, and there are a couple of good
"Townland Search" sites 1) Ireatlas which list all townlands in the
area specified (PLU, county, barony, parish) 2) Irish Times Ancestor
search of places which has several ways to search - all Ireland or restricted to
county in which on can select by PLU,barony,parish or townland or even
better by selections of letters which appear in the name. I have used
both and in no 2 selected by gl...nt..ne with 14 results, none your spelling
only 2 in Cork PLU.
Next time I have access to the book I will look up both Middleton and
Cork,town and county names and see if anything useful turns up.
The following are the URLs for you to use
Irish Times Ancestor Search http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/
List of Catholic Parishes by county (not complete)
Until again, take care, Eve
From: Kathleen A Craine <K-Craine@neiu.edu>
To: Family History < >
Date: 28 September 1998 18:23
Subject: Re:Parliamentary Gazetteer extract
>>Well, I guess I'm a little backwards in my directions.
>I've consulted my "Tracing Your Irish Ancestors" by John Grenham. On
page >xvii is a map of Cork-East. Glounthaune is a Catholic parish bordering
>the north end of Cork Harbor, just *east* of Cork City. It's about
>halfway between Cork City and Midleton. There are two Glountane
listings, >but these are not the parishes I'm interested in. My ancestor's grave
>clearly spells out Glounthaune as her parish of origin.
>>If you have any information about this parish, I'd greatly appreciate
it. >>Thanks. >Kathy
>On Sat, 26 Sep 1998, Family History wrote:
>> Hi Kathleen, I shall check on a townland search to see if there are
any >> other possibilities. But what do you mean "just N-NW of the city of
Cork">> because Mallow is only about 20miles N of Cork and Glantaine or
>> marked on my map to be SW of this. Until again ,Eve
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Kathleen A Craine <K-Craine@neiu.edu>
>> To: Family History < >
>> Date: 25 September 1998 14:57
>> Subject: Re: [CRYAN-L] Re ;Parliamentary Gazetteer extract
>> >Eve: >> >Thanks, but I don't think that's the Glounthaune I'm looking for.
The >> >parish my ancestors were from is just W-NW of the city of Cork.
>> > >> >thanks anyway.>> >Kathleen Craine>> >Office of Financial Aid
>> >Northeastern Illinois University
>> >Chicago, IL
From:"Wendy Evans" <firstname.lastname@example.org> Add to Address BookDate:Sat, 10 Oct 98 18:00:57 PDTSubject:[CRYAN-L] Thomas CRAWN/CRAUN/CRAHAN/CROUGHANTo:CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
Hello to everyone,
I thought that it was time that I posted my family details. I have
been told that my ancestor had eleven variations on the spelling
of his name during his lifetime.. I have listed just a few of them.
I am looking for information on my 5xgreat grandfather Thomas
CRAWN/CRAUN/CRAHAN/CROUGHAN (among other variations
of the name). He was tried at Dublin in December 1791 and sentenced
to 7 years transportation. He arrived aboard the "Boddington" in New
South Wales where he served most of his sentence and was sent to
Norfolk Island aboard the "Marquis Cornwallis" in May 1796. While on
Norfolk Island he married Mary MONKS who also had been tried in Dublin
and sentenced to transportation and arrived in New South Wales aboard
the "Marquis Cornwallis". She only stayed in NSW a few days and was sent
to Norfolk Island aboard the "Radiance".
Thomas and Mary and five children were sent to Van Dieman's Land
(Tasmania) when the first convict settlement on Norfolk Island was disbanded in