From cryanaj@mail.ecn.net.au Wed Jan  7 14:08:44 1998From: "Anthony & Jill Cryan" <cryanaj@ecn.net.au>Organization: The Adjutant's DeskTo: 94971455@tolka.dcu.ie

  HelloThis is just an email wishing to confirm if you are Kevin Cryan from

Dublin who recently sent out research requests for the Cryan/ Crean

family.Thank you.Anthony & Jill Cryancryanaj@ecn.net.au

 

 From adjutant@mail.ozemail.com.au Sat Jan 10 13:15:31 1998

  > Date:          Fri, 9 Jan 1998 17:53:12 +0000 (GMT)> To:            Anthony & Jill Cryan <cryanaj@ecn.net.au>> Subject:       Re: Cryan/ Crean Research> Hi > I sent 620 copies of that letter to Cryan addresses all over the > world. What did you think of it? Did you get my email off the net?>Hello Kevin - nice to hear from you BTW, please count my reply as one also for Gay Cryan (Albion, Brisbane) and Percy Cryan (Coorparoo Brisbane).620 letters ! You have my respect right off.........As for you email address, yes I did get it off the net (Alta Vista is a great search engine).Karen McElrath will be forwarding an email to you with some details of what I know of my Cryan side - as a lead in my GGrandfather was Thomas Cryan from Gurteen, Sligo Ireland (b.1854); his father was a Domnick Cryan who was married to a Catherine Cauly (I have no other details on Domnick).I would be both interested and appreciative of any help you can give

me - as going by the list of material you have in your possession you may at least be able to get me started on more of the Irish side of records etc as far as the line back from Domnick is concerned - I would be willing to cover costs of postage and  copying if need be, but even an email "filling in the gaps" would be great..Cheers TC

Anthony & Jill Cryan

cryanaj@ecn.net.au

 

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From: Tulskone <Tulskone@aol.com>Message-Id: <24397067.34bc5001@aol.com>

Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 00:41:19 ESTTo: 94971455@tolka.dcu.ie

Subject: Cryan and O'Beirne

Dear Kevin,Are you the same Kevin whose undated snail mail I received today citing Kit

O'Beirne of Cloonshane?If so, perhaps we could do this by e-mail.

Sincerely,Sean(John E. O'Beirne, ex Tulsk, now NY)

 

hello Karen.I hope that you had a nice Christmas.Just getting back to you on my Cryan research. I have now established that my g-g-grandfather was John Cryan, born approx 1847. Apparantly he went to the US for a few years before he was married and earned enough money there to come home and buy a farm in Co. Sligo. He subsequently married a Mary Ann O'Neill, also from the Ballymote area of Co. Sligo. He had 5 sons and 3 daughters - John, Matthew, Michael, Martin, Harry, Mary Ann, Delia and Nora. Mary Ann was my g-grandmother. Her brother Matthew emigrated to Boston. I have leads to follow up on all the family except Matthew at present. I have a lot of following up to do yet with elderly relatives on the Cryan side, so hopefully I can make more progress.Have you come across any Cryans from Boston in your research? If so and if they are contactable by email, I might try emailing them.

You asked in your email if I been in touch with a Kevin Cryan from Dublin. I haven't - perhaps you can send me contact information for him. I don't know yet if Sligo was the origin of my Cryan line, but its no harm to have contact info for other Cryan lines in case I ever make a connection.Thanks for you help. Good luck with your own research - maybe we'll

establish a link when we make more progress.Best wishes for the New Year.

Regards,Michael

 

 From: ljstandak@webtv.net (Lyle Staehnke)Date: Sat, 10 Jan 1998 20:53:43 -0800

To: 94971455@tolka.dcu.ie (caoimhghin ocroidheain)Subject: Re: cryans

 Kevin, I am in the process of moving,, I will be in my new place on Jan

15th,, The address is 3533 N.E. 149th Portland Ore. 97230,, After I get

moved in and settled down my plan is to get a home page and enter all

the information that I have,, If you have another news letter you sent

out I would like to have one or any other info on the Cryan`s,,, If you

have any question`s that you think I might have the answer to,, let me

know  ,Good luck Kevin ,, Lyle ,,,.

 

From dublin@sympatico.ca Wed Jan 14 23:39:52 1998 From: sioban mullin <dublin@sympatico.ca>Reply-To: dublin@sympatico.caX-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01C-SYMPA  

KevinMichael Tobin gave me you email address and told me you were researching

the Cryan family.  My maternal grandmother was a Cryne, she was born and

reared in Manchester, England but her parents apparently came from

Tubbecurry, Co. Sligo.  I cant find any references to the name CRYNE in

the Irish records I have so far.  My assumption is that when they went

to Enlgand the spelling of the name changed.  Michael tells me that you

have information about the name, and say it originates in Roscommon.  I

would love to hear from you with any info you have on the subject.  I

realise this genealogy thing can snowball and you may not have time to

get into lengthy details, however, if you can get in touch I would

appreciate it.Bye the way, Michael mentioned you live in Dublin.  I live on the edge

of  one of the Great Lakes, Lake Erie in Southern Ontario, just moved

here last August from Ottawa; however, I'm Dublin born and bred.  Four

generations of my family have lived in Blackrock.  I still have cousins

there.Hoping to hear from you.Sioban Mullin

 

Dear Kevin, Thank you for your letter of recent regarding our "Cryan" families.  Theonly information that I have pertaining to my Cryan family is as follows:         My paternal great grandmother, Jane (Jennie) Carroll Donovan, wasthe daughter of Cormack and Brigid (Cryan)        Carroll.  Jane was baptized on October 21, 1855 at Boyle Parish,Co. Roscommon.  Cormack Carroll and  Brigid Cryan were married on February 17, 1848 at Boyle Parish. Witnesses to this marriage were James        Gallagher and Margaret Cryan.  According to the records at the Co.Roscommon Heritage and Genealogical        Center, other Cryan members were Baptismal Sponsors for thechildren of Cormack and Brigid.  Those        names were Michael, Brigid, John (Cryne), and James Cryan. Unfortunately no address was given for either        Cormack or Brigid.        Cormack and Brigid Carroll's oldest and only surviving son, JamesCarroll, was born November 11, 1851        (sponsors were Michael and Brigid Cryan).  James married MargaretNicholson of Aughee on February 5,        1884 at Boyle Parish.  Their address was given as Garrow.  Thewitnesses to this marriage were James        Cryan and Mary Feehily.  James and Margaret Carroll had sevenchildren, the youngest two were born        here in Massachusetts.

>From the information that I was able to acquire from the Co. RoscommonHeritage & Genealogical Center is that my ancestors, Cormack and BrigidCarroll had owned a house, offices, and land (33 acres, 3 buildings, 25 P.)according to the Griffiths Valuation.  According to the Tithe ApplotmentBook, a J.S. Carroll was listed (possible father of Cormack).  Cormack andBrigid's first son was name James (died).  They then named their second sonJames (above).  Unfortunately, no records of either Cormack or Brigid'sbaptism/birth at the Parish of Boyle were found.  If J.S. Carroll wasindeed Cormack's father and he was living in Garrow at the time of theTithe Applotment Book, then what Parish did Cormack's family belong if notBoyle!  My own father's godmother was a Margaret  (Peg) Cryan of Lowell,Massachusetts.  I haven't yet begun to investigate the Cryan family inLowell.  Most of my time has been devoted to the "Donovan" family andtrying to find where in Ireland they emigrated from. Could your great great grandfather, John Cryan, be a brother to my greatgreat grandmother, Brigid Cryan Carroll and the baptismal sponsor, JohnCryne, to Margaret Carrol baptized on August 4, 1853? Look forward to hearing from you.  Best wishes to you and your family forhappy and healthy New Year! Regards, Joan E. Ogg P.S.  A printout of my complete "Cryan" family line to follow in mail.

 

From cryan@avana.net Sat Jan 10 23:55:43 1998 

Kevin, I'd be interested in getting something back from you, after the detailed information I sent you.  I'd be interested in other cryan e-mails.  (I know you offer this because it is the easiest.)  More particularly, however, I'd like more information on the resources you've collected. I understand that the National Library (or the National Archives) has the estate records of Lord Lorton, whose seat was in Boyle, Roscommon; whose estate stretched from East Sligo across North Roscommon and into Leitrim; and who, I'm told, did not lease through middlemen, but only through his own agents.  This estate, it seems to me, represents the whole native lands

of the Cryans.  Have you explored this? Specifically, have you found record of a James Cryan (married to Honoria Beirne or Honora Byrne in the Sligo parish of Kilfree and Killaragt in

1853) originally from Sligo and given a lease in the townland of Ballinultha (old spelling Ballynanultagh), where he was at the time of Griffith's Valuation in 1857.I have a considerable amount of additional information about my own relatives in this country which will have to wait for some more specific response from yourself. I await your response.

                                    Roger Martin Cryan

> From: caoimhghin ocroidheain <94971455@tolka.dcu.ie> > To: Roger Cryan and Regina Pana-Cryan <cryan@avana.net>> Subject: cryans> Date: Friday, January 09, 1998 1:23 PM

> > hi> Happy new year I am getting som e responses to my cryan letter (620 sent).

> MIght eventually be able to tie some together! Could you send me your own> cryan tree details? would you be interested in other cryan researchers emails?> Email me or send to either of these addresses> 44 st columbas rise, swords, co dublin, ireland

> or 231 campus res., ballymun rd., dublin 9> > yours sincerely> kevin cryan

 

From rsl@rootsweb.com Thu Jan  8 15:12:22 1998

  Kevin, The recent release of the Root Surname List (RSL) contained new orupdated information from you.  Attached to the bottom of this formletter is the information we currently have in our files.  Let us knowabout any errors.  (If all is well, there is no need to respond to thisnote.) Feel free to send in modifications or additions at any time.  If you do,though, help us by identifying which information is new and which is achange to old.  Please please do not resubmit information we already have inour files.  Also, whenever you correspond with us, please be sure to remindus of your nametag -- that is how we know for sure that you are you,so to speak.  Your nametag is: kc949714

For information about the RSL, how to get a copy, etc., send any

message to rsl-info@genealogy.org

A table of the abbreviations that are used is located at

    http://www.rootsweb.com/roots-l/cabbrev1.html

Your surnames are also now on the WWW, in the RSL database accessible

from     http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/searches/

Thanks again for participating!      Roots Surname List Data Entry Team

                                        RSL@rootsweb.com

P.S. Corrections and changes we've received very recently

are not reflected in the data below.Your address info:

kc949714 Kevin Cryan, 94971455@tolka.dcu.ie                                   

         231, campus residences, ballymun road, dublin 9, ireland             

Your surname info:+Cryan        1836   now IRL>USA kc949714                                     

 

Hello Karen My name is Tony Cryan and I live in Brisbane, Queensland,

Australia.Although interested in history for quite a while - and helping others

at times with their searches - it is only now I am hoping to work a

bit more on my own family.I only have the slight basics at this stage, so any possible

help you may give me would be greatly appreciated.My GG Grandfather was Domnick Cryan (m. Catherine Cauly) - no dates/ other information  at present.My G Grandfather was Thomas Cryan born in Gurteen, Sligo, Ireland in 1854. He arrived in Australia approx 1877 and in 1884

married Ellen Hayes (b. 1860, Rossmore, Tipperary, Ireland).They had 6 Children - Mary Catherine (Catherin Mary ??);  (b. 1885 ?) Domnick Francis (b. 1886 ?);  Cornelius Patrick (b. Oct 1888); Thomas (b. 1890 ?) James (b. 1892 ?)  and Winifred Dorothy (b. Oct 1894 ?)GGrandfather Thomas died of mania/ exahaustion in 1894.My Grandfather, Cornelius was born in 1888 at Gympie, Australia.In 1914 he married Ethel Frances Cozens and in 1918 they had a son, Percy.Cornelius died of Arteriosclerosis in 1961.Percy married Gloria Connor in 1922 and had a son - Anthony in 1961.I married Jillian Francis in 1988 and our son Jonathan was born in 1994.Through your note in Kevin's letter, I am very interested to see if there is a family connection from the Sligo end.Also, could you tell me what unit your Patrick Cryan enlisted in during the American Civil War - or any other information you may have about his service.BTW - Pleased to meet you.Cheers.TCAnthony & Jill Cryan

cryanaj@ecn.net.au

 

JAN98

Domnick Cryan  (m.  Catherine Cauly) Farmer Born: Ireland   I have found the following for his son Thomas (b.1854 came to Aust  approx 1877) - his children were all born in Oz, but I have included the info for name recognition purposes: Thomas Cryan b. 1854 d. 06/12/1894 (m. Gympie 09/07/1884 Ellen Hayes b. 1860) Miner  Born: Gurteen, Sligo, Ireland  Arrived Australia: Approx 1877

Children:       Mary Catherine (Catherine Mary ?) (b. 1885 ?)

                Domnick Francis (b. 1886 ?) (m. Mary Ann Mclean b.1892 d. 1917???? )

                Cornelius Patrick (b. Oct 1888)

                Thomas (b. 1890 ?)

                James (b. 1892 ?)

 

M TOBIN INFO JAN98

I have now established that my g-g-grandfather was John Cryan, born approx 1847. Apparantly he went to the US for a few years before he was married and earned enough money there to come home and buy a  farm in Co.Sligo. He subsequently married a Mary Ann O'Neill, also from the Ballymote area of Co. Sligo. He had 5 sons and 3 daughters -John, Matthew, Michael, Martin, Harry, Mary Ann, Delia and Nora. Mary Ann was my g-grandmother. Her brother Matthew emigrated to Boston. I have leads to follow up on all the family except Matthew at present. I  have a lot of following up to do yet with elderly relatives on the Cryan side, so hopefully I can make more progress. ? Have you come across any Cryans from Boston in your research? If so and if they are contactable by email, I might try emailing them. You asked in your email if I been in touch with a Kevin Cryan from Dublin. I haven't - perhaps you can send me contact information for him. I don't know yet if Sligo was the origin of my Cryan line, but its no harm to have contact info for other Cryan lines in case I ever make a connection. Thanks for you help. Good luck with your own research - maybe we'll establish a link when we make more progress. Best wishes for the New Year.

 

MULLIN INFO JAN98

Michael Tobin gave me you email address and told me you were researchingthe Cryan family.  My maternal grandmother was a Cryne, she was born andreared in Manchester, England but her parents apparently came fromTubbecurry, Co. Sligo.  I cant find any references to the name CRYNE inthe Irish records I have so far.  My assumption is that when they wentto Enlgand the spelling of the name changed.  Michael tells me that youhave information about the name, and say it originates in Roscommon.  Iwould love to hear from you with any info you have on the subject.  Irealise this genealogy thing can snowball and you may not have time toget into lengthy details, however, if you can get in touch I wouldappreciate it.Bye the way, Michael mentioned you live in Dublin.  I live on the edgeof  one of the Great Lakes, Lake Erie in Southern Ontario, just movedhere last August from Ottawa; however, I'm Dublin born and bred.  Fourgenerations of my family have lived in Blackrock.  I still have cousinsthere. Hoping to hear from you.

 

Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 11:35:14 +1000 (EST)From: Joanne R Grant <fileworks@albury.net.au>To: Kevin Cryan <94971455@tolka.dcu.ie>

Subject: CRYAN SEARCHING DOWNUNDER

Hi Kevin,Perhaps I have found your PATRICK CRYAN - or at least his descendants.

The 'Irish Roots' article has just reached me (takes a while to get here)and I remembered my search for 'PADDY' CRYAN a few years ago.He is NOT my ancestor, but is connected to my HENERY/HENRY family from CoRoscommon in a very round-about way.The PATRICK MICHAEL CRYAN - born circa 1873 - about whom I have someinformation, was, I am told, possibly the son of another 'PADDY' CRYAN.   Ihave not yet obtained his death certificate to confirm this.He was a publican in Roma, Queensland where he died in 1941. He left nodescendants.  Roma is 'in the outback' - (west of Brisbane, if you have amap)  and I visited the town and photographed his grave.  A local historianthought that he had a photograph of PADDY's father, an early settler,  takenwith some aboriginal people - but I have heard nothing further from this man.He married FRANCES MARY REGAN in Sydney, NSW in 1908.   FRANCES had asister, EMILY who was married to JOHN JOSEPH HENERY.   JOHN, (or JJ as hewas known), is the brother of my great-grandfather EDWARD JOSEPH HENERY

(1857-1935).  This HENERY family came from CLONOWN, ATHLONE and I suspect

that the REGAN family were also from the same area.I have a few more details and can add to this story if you are interested.Please advise if you want to know more.Best regards,   Jo

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         v    Downunder    :-) Greetings from the Magnificent Upper MurrayFrom: Harvey Wohlwend <harvey.wohlwend@SEMATECH.Org>To: 94971455@tolka.dcu.ieCc: harvey.wohlwend@SEMATECH.OrgSubject: Cryan genealogy

Hello Kevin,I found your name via an Internet search for Irish genealogy and theCryan surname. My mother's maiden name is Cryan. Unforturnately sheknows very little about her ancestors. Through research I now believeher ancestors emigrated to Canada from Ireland after 1826 and before1852. They moved from Canada to the United States in 1887.Are the Cryans originally from a particular area of Ireland?Looking forward to hearing from you.Regards, Harvey WohlwendAustin, Texas, USA

Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 20:35:38 -0500 From: Janeson Keeley <JanesonKeeley@pobox.com>To: 94971455@tolka.dcu.ie

Subject: Cryan entry in Roots surname listI found your e-mail address via Roots surname list.

My husband's mother was born Carrye Catheryne Cryan in Rainelle, West

Virginia, USA, in 1912.  She died when my husband was a child, and he

was never sure what country the Cryans had come from originially.

On a wild guess, I supposed that the name was Irish, but was never able

to confirm that until I found your listing.

Thanks!Janeson KeeleyRoanoke, VA, USAJanesonKeeley@pobox.com

From: UIA1 <UIA1@aol.com>To: 94971455@tolka.dcu.ieSubject: Re: Hello

Kevin,     Thanks for your e-mail.  I have already found out the names of the Offaly

papers, but I appreciate your help in the matter.  If I can ever help you with

anything here in the U.S., please don't hesitate to send me an e-mail.

      I live in West Hartford, which is outside of Hartford, which is the

capitol of Connecticut.  Where are you located ?

      I think that IRISH ROOTS is a great magazine. Always interesting stuff

in it.  We know in detail about three of my grandparents but know nothing of

my grandfather and his Offaly roots.  Mainly I have spent most of my time in

Kenmare in Kerry because both of my maternal grandparents are from there.

     Thanks again for everything, and e-mail me anytime - if I can answer any

question about the U.S. or help in any matter.

John Horan<uia1@aol.com>

 

Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 14:18:59 -0500 From: Janeson Keeley <JanesonKeeley@pobox.com>To: caoimhghin ocroidheain <94971455@tolka.dcu.ie>

Subject: Re: Cryan entry in Roots surname listcaoimhghin ocroidheain wrote:> hi> just a quick note to say Igot your message I might send the info re> cryans through Yahoo but I dont have the disc on me at the moment it> also> contains the Cryan death index (ireland)> Caoimh (gentle ) g(h)in (birth) "Kevkevin> O (from Avios - grandson , mac-soon)> Croidhe (heart) ain -noble (cryan) > caoimhghin-----Caoimhghin,

 

Thanks for the note, and the translation of your names.  I'm sure thatneither my husband nor I have even begun to pronounce them correctly:-)  (My husband's name is Marion Errold Lyon, Jr., but he goes byBuffy.)Last weekend we went to Rainelle, WV, to see the graves of Buffy's

grandfather Michael C. (1877-1930) and uncle Jesse Lewis (1916-1932)Cryan.  We found out that his grandfather was born in Pennsylvania.  Wethink that Michael's parents came from Ireland to PA, but we have nodocumentation of that.We also found out that Buffy has a cousin that he never knew aboutbefore - John S. Cryan - who is also doing research on the  family.  Wemailed him a letter last week, but haven't heard from him yet.  Maybe hehas gotten back farther than we've been able to.If I find out anything more, I'll let you know.  Thanks for keeping meposted.-Janeson

 

Date: Sat, 28 Mar 1998 16:01:41 +0000 (GMT)From: caoimhghin ocroidheain <94971455@tolka.dcu.ie>To: DSchaub1 <DSchaub1@aol.com>Subject: Re: The Cryan Game   Thanks for your very interesting letter - I have to rush but I think youshould try the roscommon-sligo homepage they have a huge growing list offamily researchers -I shall look up your bookThe link between crane crehan and cryean/crean is fascinating - we should consolidate info maybe you could send me copies of the most importantstuff - the search widens all the time! I have a lotof cryan researcher addresses  but no crehans or cranes.keep in touchKevin Cryanlet me know if you wzant copies of my material!!

 

Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 20:17:45 EST From: DSchaub1 <DSchaub1@aol.com>

To: 94971455@tolka.dcu.ieSubject: The Cryan Game

Dear Kevin,                 Greetings from Calumet City, Illinois, U. S. A.  I waspleased to read your article in Irish Roots Magazine.  Hopefully, you might beable to consolidate the Cryan, Crean and Crehan clan worldwide whereby acentralized source of information would be established.  I have been searchingfor my branch of the Crehan family for the past 18 years and I looked forwardto the day when someone such as yourself; especially in the home country,Ireland, might be able to consolidate our individual efforts towards a commongoal.  I believe our family names have been sorely neglected in favor of themore popular Irish surnames.  The names that are associated with my branch of the Crehanfamily are Cuddy or Cuddihy.  My great-grandparents were Patrick Crehan (born1844) and Mary Cuddihy (born 1846).  They were married in Silvermines/Nenagh, Tipperary on 2 August 1863 where Patrick worked as a miner.  Their daughter,Mary, was born on 24 December 1864.  They immigrated to America in 1868 wheremy great-grandfather continued his trade as a miner and where their succeedingchildren, including my grandfather, John Crane, were born.  I am also certainthat my great-grandmother's parent's names were Denis (born 1810) and Anne(born 1810) Cuddihy.  To this date it appears that I have exhausted all of theknown sources of information available to me in Ireland as regards to tracingexactly where it was that my great-grandparents originated from.                 You might be pleased to know that I have obtained, over theyears, quite an extensive amount of research material that includes some ofthe very source material that you have mentioned in your article.  Inaddition, I have only recently placed an order, not yet received, for theIndex of the Griffith's Valuation that is advertised on page 11 of the currentissue of Roots Magazine.  Also, for your information, I have a book on file atthe National Library of Ireland that I sent to them some years ago and that Ititled, "Green Is The Valley, Blue Are The Hills."  The book tells the storyof my search for my ancestors.                 Do you think that you might be able to put me in touch withsomeone who might be researching my branch of the Crehan family?  If so, Iwould certainly appreciate it.  At present, I am writing to you on mydaughter's computer in her home.  She lives about 3 to 4 miles from where Ilive.  My home address is: Thomas Crane   1354  Hirsch Street , Calumet City,Illinois 60409  U.S.A.  My telephone number is: (708) 862-8954.  Since it isabout 7:00 pm here in the US, and you are about 6 hours ahead of us in time,you probably will not read this letter until you get up in the morning.  Inthat case, "Have a good day."  God Bless.

 

Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1998 16:08:44 EDTFrom: DSchaub1 <DSchaub1@aol.com>

To: caoimhghin ocroidheain <94971455@tolka.dcu.ie>Subject: Re: The Cryan Game

 Dear Kevin,It was nice to receive your reply to my message.  I would be happy to exchange

info with you.  I recently purchased the CD Rom for Griffith's Valuation asadvertised in "Irish Roots."  It should prove to be a valueable research tool.In the meantime, since you are experienced in looking up death records at theGeneral Register Office, I wonder if you would be willing to research one forme.  I would gladly pay you for any expense plus postage.  I am certain thatthe person who I am interested in was my great-grandfather's sister.  Her name

was Bridget Crehan.  She married a Joseph Lacy in Silvermines, Tipperary on 25Feb 1854.  They had 3 children; John (born 2 Oct 1856), Margaret (born 26 May1861) and Michael (born 6 Sept 1863)  Although some not agree with me, Isuspect she remarried as a widow using her maiden name.  The reason why I saythis is because I have obtained the record of a Bridget Crehan (listed asthis is because I have obtained the record of a Bridget Crehan (listed aswidow) who was also married in Silvermines to a Martin Burns on 18 Jan 1874.I suspect that this Bridget Crehan is one and the same and even though it wasnot indicated as such, she was the widow of Joseph Lacy.  Since she did notmove out of the Silvermines area, I believe that she might be buried there.Hopefully, by chance, they might have recorded her parent's names.  If so, mysearch would be over as that is about as far as I could possibly take it.Would it be too difficult for you to research these names, that is BridgetLacy and Bridget Burns?  Please let me know.  I could probably request theinfo from the Nenagh District Heritage Center, but I have a felling that youmight be more exact in your search due to your experience.  I will be looking

forward to your reply.  In the meantime, Best Wishes.        Tom Crane

 

Date: Fri, 03 Apr 1998 21:15:53 -0500 From: Janeson Keeley <JanesonKeeley@pobox.com>

To: 94971455@tolka.dcu.ieSubject: Cryan info, part 2

Kevin, I got a file from Harvey Wohlwend as well.  Thanks for connecting us all

together. I noticed that you didn't have my full address.  If you send out anaddendum, feel free to include it: 1941 Governor Dr.Roanoke, VA  24019-3619 USA

 

I noticed that you have a list of Cryan births from the MormonGenealogical Index.  Is there any way you could send me a copy?  Orcould I send you names of people to check on?  Or, could you tell me howI noticed that you have a list of Cryan births from the MormonGenealogical Index.  Is there any way you could send me a copy?  Orcould I send you names of people to check on?  Or, could you tell me howto get one? Thanks from my beloved spouse and me, JanesonCc: caoimhghin@yahoo.com, 94971455@tolka.dcu.ie, fileworks@albury.net.au Subject: Re: cryan info

 

Harvey,I'm sorry, but I jumped the gun with my last message, sending it before reading the document you sent. As I mentioned, my husband's grandfather, Michael C. Cryan, was born in Pennsylvania (at least that is the family lore - we have nodocumentation) in 1877 and died in West Virginia in 1930.  We have notbeen able to get back any further than that.If you know of any possible connections, I would appreciate hearing about them. My husband - whose name is M. Errold ("Buffy") Lyon, Jr., is the second child of Michael's second daughter - Carrye Catheryne Cryan - who diedin 1960 in Roanoke, VA. ? If you know of any possible connections, I would appreciate hearing about them. My husband - whose name is M. Errold ("Buffy") Lyon, Jr., is the second child of Michael's second daughter - Carrye Catheryne Cryan - who diedin 1960 in Roanoke, VA. Good luck with your research. Janeson Keeley

1941 Governor Dr.Roanoke, VA  24019-3619 USA

 

Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1998 06:47:04 +1000 (EST)From: Joanne R Grant <fileworks@albury.net.au>To: Kevin Cryan <94971455@tolka.dcu.ie>Subject: REPLY TO CRYAN INFO

Hi Kevin Message received with attach GENABS.DOC.  Will take a while to digest.  Also

info from Janeson Keeley altho cannot quite see the relevance of this. I have joined the Co Roscommon Family History Society and have sent info onHENERY/HENRY family but still awaiting a reply. I wonder if there was any connection between the HENERY family and the CRYANfamil, in Athlone or Clonown, prior to their immigration to Australia? Best regards,  Jo

 

Ancestors of Michael Cryan

Generation No. 1

 

      1.  Michael Cryan, born in Ireland.  He married (1) Mary.  She was the daughter of Mary's Father and Mary's Mother.

Notes for Michael Cryan:

The Irish potato famine was primarily between 1845 and 1850. These Cryan's most probably came to Canada from Ireland after 1826 and before 1852.

If they came in through New York: The Irish Emigrant Society of New York was organized in 1841 and chartered in 1844; its objective was "to afford advice, information, aid and protection to Emigrants from Ireland, and generally to promote their welfare."

Between 1820-1830 50,000 Irish immigrants enter the United States. In 1821 a general population census is taken (most of which was destroyed by fire in 1922 making genealogy difficult). Between 1824-1838 the tithe applotments (or tax lists) are compiled. This Griffith's Valuation is a census alternative. Between 1848-1864 a householder list is compiled of every householder and land owner/renter. This is the Index of Surnames from Griffith's Valuation. Between 1830-1840 237,000 Irish immigrants enter the United States. Between 1840-1850 The Great Famine strikes, more than 1,000,000 Irish men and women emigrate. Between 1840-1850 800,000 Irish immigrants enter the United States.

Eleanor Wohlwend remembers hearing that there were 21 children in this family by 3 different wives.

Notes for Mary:

The 1900 census says Mary and her two sons Michael and Joseph came to the United States (from Canada?) in 1887. At the time of the census Mary could not read or write and had not been naturalized. Michael and Joseph were naturalized citizens. The 1900 census also lists a 15 year old servant in the house by the name of Anna Stibal who can read and write. She is later to become Mrs. Joseph Daniel Cryan.

It is interesting to note that they moved to Cayuga, North Dakota and that there is a town by the name of Cayuga on the Grand River in North Cayuga Township and it is the county seat of Haldimand County, Ontario. There is also a South Cayuga Township in Haldimand County, Ontario.

Mary is not included in the 1910 census so she probably passed away between 1900 and 1910.

      Children of Michael Cryan and Mary are:

                    i.   Austin Cryan, born Abt. 1852 in Ontario, Canada; married Margaret Barry Abt. 1885.

Notes for Austin Cryan:

The 1900 North Dakota census (Roll 1232, page 52B) says he came to the United States in 1870 and that he was naturalized. He owned the farm with a mortgage. A servant by the name of Evan O. Jones, born Aug. 1847 in Wales, is also in the house.

The 1910 North Dakota census says they have 9 children, 8 living. They are all still living at home. Also in the household was an 18 year old hired man (Henry Wargeria) and a 23 year old boarder (Arnest Fust).

The 1900 census says his parents were born in Canada (Eng). The 1910 census says his parents were born in Ireland.

He moved to Houston, Texas about 1920.

Notes for Margaret Barry:

The 1900 census says Margaret came to the United States in 1885 and that she was not naturalized.

                   ii.   James Cryan, born January 1854 in Canada (Eng.); married Sarah A. Abt. 1897.

Notes for James Cryan:

James lived south of Lake Tewaukon in Sargent County, North Dakota. He later moved to Havana, ND.

The 1900 North Dakota census says he came to the United States in 1880. He and Sarah can both read and write English and they own the farm free of mortgage.

The 1910 North Dakota census includes one 22 year old hired man by the name of Ed Hobby who was born in Wisconsin.

In the 1920 North Dakota census James is in the Enumeration District 159, page 4.

                  iii.   Joseph Daniel Cryan, born January 05, 1863 in Canada (Eng.)1; died December 05, 1932 in Cayuga, North Dakota; married Anna Marie Theresa Stibal January 19, 1904 in St. Martin's, Geneseo, North Dakota.

Notes for Joseph Daniel Cryan:

The homestead was 4 miles south and 2 miles east of Cayuga. The family moved into Cayuga when Eleanor was ready to start school.

The 1900 and 1910 census lists Joe as being born in January 1871. The 1920 census suggests Joe was born in 1868.

The 1900 North Dakota census lists Michael as head of the household and he owned the farm free of mortgage.

The 1910 North Dakota census lists both Michael and Joe as head of the same household. There is also a hired girl and a hired man in the house.

The 1920 North Dakota census lists Joe as the head of the household and Michael is a brother living in the house. There is also one 22 year old hired man in the house.

More About Joseph Daniel Cryan:

Death: December 07, 1932, Buried in Cayuga, ND.

Cause of Death: Stroke.

Notes for Anna Marie Theresa Stibal:

Minnesota became a state on May 11, 1858. It has 84,068 square miles and is the 32th state. It was originally settled on March 3, 1849 and was a territory for 9 years. During that time it was known as Northwest Territory, Dakota Territory, and Minnesota Territory.

Anna's father spoke Bohemian and her mother spoke German. They learned English when Anna went to school.

More About Anna Marie Theresa Stibal:

Death: March 10, 1947, Anna is buried in Cayuga, ND

                  iv.   Michael Cryan, born October 20, 1863 in Canada (Eng.)2; died August 10, 1921 in Cayuga, North Dakota.

Notes for Michael Cryan:

The 1900 North Dakota census gives his birth date as October 1867. It also says Michael owned the farm free of mortgage.

The 1910 census suggests Michael was born in 1870.

He never married.

                   v.   Thomas Cryan.

Notes for Thomas Cryan:Thomas was a barber in Havana, North Dakota. He never married.

Endnotes1.  From the 1910 census, roll 1148, page 95A.2.  Tombstone in Cayuga.

 

        <Fatarm@aol.com> Add to Address Book   Date:    Tue, 7 Jul 1998 08:59:10 EDT

    To:        caoimhghin@yahoo.com Subject:   Re: cryan info - thank you

I was able to retrieve your information very easily as a .txt file.  And, I'mpretty certain I located my Great Great Grandfather's death record  through it,shedding more light and a place to look for information re: his death.  There aren't too many Robert Cryans, thank goodness. I read your intro with great interest, but no light to shine on your search for info on "Master Cryan" (at least as of yet).  Since I initially contacted you my grandmother has revealed to me a British passport for her mother, Agnes Cryan Smyth.  It is interesting, should you not and yet wish to know it, that she was not naturalized as a US citizen (although her husband was).  And since she was not living in Ireland after the beginning of the Republic, eventhough her last residence was in Dublin (and born in Castlebar, Co Mayo - againthanks to the passport), she was still a British citizen because she was born one. Checking out Irish citizenship rules will be an interesting bit of history for me to read about one of these days. Now I have a question of politics to ask you - if you can spare the time andadvice.  I don't think my Cryans were on the Collins' side of things exactly, as my Great Great Grandfather Robert was a member of the Royal Constabulary. After she was widowed, my Great Great Grandmother Frances Fox Cryan wasa housekeeper in a boarding house for British Officers (1901-teens), until she came over here with her daughter Agnes (Frances died early on here and is buried in the Bronx, poor woman).  My grandmother remembers Agnes and her husband being big supporters of the Republic and talking about Irish politics all the time.  And yet, will I have problems trying to trace stuffabout their lives at the beginning of this century?  Did the new Republic's enthusiasmseek to wipe out records of British rule?  A lot of newly created governments tend to, don't they.  I'm just curious about this aspect. Well, I've been rambling in your direction for a while, so I should leave you be now.  Do you have anything else computerized, such as the birth or marriage records index?   I noted the addresses you sent and have collected similar for Mayo.  So if that's the way I should go, please say so again. Thank you for your help and history -- you've gotten me much further along my way than I ever expected to get so quickly.    --Leslie Poché, Chicago

 

From:        Fatarm@aol.com Add to Address Book   Date:        Wed, 9 Sep 1998 22:15:14 EDT

 Subject:        [CRYAN-L] Griffith's Valuation: first 1/2 of Co. Roscommon    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

If anyone can link up to one of the below, please let me know.  These are onlyCo. Roscommon variations on Crean/Cryan etc., and so far I've only transcribedup to the Barony of Ballintober, South for Union of Roscommon (for those inthe know).  Griffith's was done in Co. Roscommon in 1857.  I've only  listedthe Parish, Townland, name of occupier and lessor.  It's sorted by occupier

name.  Hope it gives someone new information:

Killumod/Cartron:       Clyan, Henry    Dunne, John, MD

Taghmaconnell/Eskerberg:        Crean, Edward   Smyth, Henry

Taghmaconnell/Eskerberg:        Crean, John     Kelly, Thomas

Kilnamanagh/Kingsland:  Creen, Patrick  Conmee, Matthew

Ardcarn/Errironagh:     Crian, Michael  Peyton, Charles

Kilnamanagh/Ardmoyh:    Crine, Bartholomew      McCausland, Marcus

Kilbride/Grange:        Croghan, Hugh   Farrell, Reps. Daniel

Kilronan/Aghafin:       Croghan, James  O'Conor, Arthur

Fuerty/Emlaghkeadew:    Croghan, Matthew        Coote, Sir Charles Henry, Bart.

Fuerty/Emlaghkeadew:    Croghan, Matthew        Coote, Sir Charles Henry, Bart.

Kilbride/Derrane:       Croghan, Michael        Sands, William

Shankill/Kilnamryall:   Croghan, Patrick        Coote, Sir Charles H., Bt.

Shankill/Kilnamryall:   Croghan, Patrick        Coote, Sir Charles H., Bt.

Kilmacumsy/Lismacool:   Croghan, Patrick        Coote, Sir. Charles H. Coote, Bt.

St. Peters/Monksland:   Croghan, Richard        Wilson, Robert S.

St. Peters/Monksland:   Croghan, Richard        Wilson, Robert S.

Kilcolagh/Laughbally:   Croghan, Rose   Grace, Oliver D.J.

Fuerty/Emlaghkeadew:    Croghan, Thomas Coote, Sir Charles Henry, Bart.

Fuerty/Emlaghkeadew:    Croghan, Thomas Coote, Sir Charles Henry, Bart.

Kilbride/Cloonerk:      Croghan, William        Blakeny, Sarah Anne

Killumod/Finnor:        Cryan, Bryan    Barrett, Michael

Killumod/Derraun:       Cryan, Catherine        Caddell, Richard O'F.

Boyle/Town of Boyle:    Cryan, Catherine        Cox, Mary

Boyle/Town of Boyle:    Cryan, Dr. Peter        Bromwell, John

Boyle/Ballynanultagh:   Cryan, James    Viscount Lorton

Boyle/Ballynanultagh:   Cryan, James    Viscount Lorton

Kilbride/Cashelmeehan:  Cryan, James    Thewles, John E.

Killumod/Finnor:        Cryan, James    Barrett, Michael

Killumod/Culleenatreen, or Flagford:    Cryan, John     Crofton, Henry W.

Kilbryan/Smutternagh:   Cryan, John     Viscount Lorton

Killumod/Finnor:        Cryan, Luke     Barrett, Michael

Kilbryan/Smutternagh:   Cryan, Margaret Viscount Lorton

Killukin/Ballyculleen:  Cryan, Martin   Keogh, Thomas

Killumod/Carrowreagh:   Cryan, Mary     Boylan, Thomas

Kilbride/Cashelmeehan:  Cryan, Michael  Thewles, John E.

Boyle/Deerpark: Cryan, Michael  Viscount Lorton

Boyle/Deerpark: Cryan, Michael  Viscount Lorton

Estersnow/Granny:       Cryan, Patrick  Robinson, Rev. William

Boyle/Town of Boyle:    Cryan, Paul     Mulhall, David

Killumod/Culleenatreen, or Flagford:    Cryan, Peter    Crofton, Henry W.

Ardcarn/Clegna: Cryan, Roger    O'Hara, Patrick Jun.

 

From:        Fatarm@aol.com Add to Address Book     Date:        Tue, 8 Sep 1998 18:38:40 EDT Subject:        [CRYAN-L] Crehan/Crgehan    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Another poster of names!  Yeah!:The Crehan's I have are my maternal grandmother's family, and the  spelling hasbeen consistant for a while.  I've seen it on my line spelled Creghan too.These are the names I have.Michael Crehan b 1855 Ballybane, Co. Galway  married--Catherine Kinsella b 1855 Ballybane, Co. Galwaychildren:  :Matthew Bernard Daniel Lawrence Michael Winifred Ellen DeliaJamesCatherine Margaret Bernard was my great-grandfather.  He came to the US in 1909, and got  his papers in 1919.  My grandmother doesn't know very much else, she went to

Ireland in the late 70's and met some family, but has since lost touch. Thanks again, please let me know if anything sounds familiar. Best,Jeanne Vitale

 

 

From:        Fatarm@aol.com Add to Address Book   Date:        Tue, 8 Sep 1998 18:21:50 EDT

 Subject:        [CRYAN-L] Welcome to subscriber #20    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

We've doubled our number in the past week and now are 20 subscribers strong!

Here's #20's introduction:  Yes, my ggggrandfather, Cornelius CREAN was from Glounthaune parish,County Cork and came to US, settling in Milwaukee.His son, John, (my gggrandfather) changed the spelling to CRAINE.  I'mpretty confident of the CREAN spelling, as it is used on a tombstone in1860 for John's sister, Mary.  Also, it is the way the name is listed onthe passenger list of 1852 which I found for Cornelius & his wifeHannah.I know our family has retained the CRAINE spelling.  John had an olderbrother, Owen, who I can't seem to find after about 1880.  He may havechanged his spelling to any of the various forms of Crane/Crain, orretained Crean.

I'd appreciate any info you have on the surname in general, and its origins in Ireland.

Thanks again.  Kathleen Craine, Chicago, IL

 

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Post your messages to: CRYAN-L@ROOTSWEB.COMFrom:        Fatarm@aol.com Add to Address Book   Date:        Mon, 7 Sep 1998 23:16:38 EDT Subject:        [CRYAN-L] Fwd: Crean    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.comThis is a multi-part message in MIME format.--part0_905224598_boundaryContent-ID: <0_905224598@inet_out.mail.aol.com.1>Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII

Okay everyone, mea culpa.  I told everyone the wrong way to sendmessages to the list - send them to "cryan-L@rootsweb.com", in other words, drop the"request" - that's only for subscribing and unsubscribing.  So here's amessage that may not have gotten around as it should have (please tellme if it did make it around already once - I'll be mightily confused, butcloser to the right track).  (sorry), Leslie

 

Old-Date: Mon, 07 Sep 1998 17:05:59 +0100To: Cryan-L-request@rootsweb.com

From: Steve Morrison <smorrison@paston.co.uk>Subject: CreanX-Diagnostic: Already on the subscriber list

 Good morning everyone,I am always very pleased to hear from other Crean researchers,  and am

sending you what little I have,  and hope we may be of mutual assistance.Starting with my great-grandfather:Stephen Crean:  Born 1832 in Bandon,  County Cork,  Ireland.  Marriedto Mary Ann Cowgrave.  Born 1835 in Wexford, Ireland.  I don't yet know thedate of their marriage or where,  but I would guess about 1855-56, astheir first child was born 1857 when they were living in Wales.  They were:

Stephen Crean                  Born 1857Margeret Crean                   "  1859John Crean                       "  1864 Hannah Maria Crean               "  1869Clara Crean                      "  1871  Clara was my Mother's mother.James Patrick Crean              "  1879I obtained this information from the 1881 census for Newport, Monmouthshire,Wales.  My g-grandfather's trade was described as a mason. My mother told me that her Uncle Stephen was an accomplished cornet player. He went to New York,  where he was shot and killed by his business partner.She was very fond of her grandfather,  and named me after him.I must confess I am a novice at genealogy,  and with computers.  I don't

know if any of this will be of use to anyone,  but it seems worth a try. Best wishes,Steve.Stephen Crean Morrison.      --part0_905224598_boundary--

 

 

Date:  Fri, 4 Sep 1998 11:20:00 -0400  From: Jim Ogg <J_JOgg@compuserve.com> Add to Address Book Subject:        [Fwd: Census Taker]

    To:        Malcolm Craik <m.f.craik@ncl.ac.uk>,

        Beth Banks <beth@hallmoor.demon.co.uk>,

        Kevin Cryan <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>, Regina Donovan

        <dreblvos@wt.net>,

        Linda Donovan Evans <evans@nbnet.nb.ca>,

        Bobbie & John Hoechlin <bojo@aone.com>,

        Mary Lyons <106462.2127@compuserve.com>, Greg Latham

        <GLATHAM@msn.com>,

        "Dr. Barry Potvin" <potvin@ymail.yu.edu>,

        Bill & Jean Putnam <virgini252@aol.com>,

        "Robert H. Wheelock" <RHWheelock@aol.com>,

        John Starkey <JohnStarkey@compuserve.com>,

        Brian Seddon <bseddon@bigpond.com>,

        Trish Hopkins <parrspub@globalserve.net>,

        Catherine Amatnieks <amatniek@juno.com>

-------------Forwarded Message-----------------

CENSUS TAKER

It was the first day of census, and all through the land;

The pollster was ready ... a black book in hand.

He mounted his horse for a long dusty ride;

His book and some quills were tucked close by his side.

A long winding ride down a road barely there;

Toward the smell of fresh bread wafting, up through the air.

The woman was tired, with lines on her face;

And wisps of brown hair she tucked back into place.

She gave him some water ... as they sat at the table;

And she answered his questions ... the best she was able.

He asked of her children... Yes, she had quite a few;

The oldest was twenty, the youngest not two.

She held up a toddler with cheeks round and red;

his sister, she whispered, was napping in bed.

She noted each person who lived there with pride;

And she felt the faint stirrings of the wee one inside.

He noted the sex, the color, the age...

The marks from the quill soon filled up the page.

At the number of children, she nodded her head;

And saw her lips quiver for the three that were dead.

The places of birth she "never forgot";

Was it Kansas? or Utah? or Oregon ... or not?

They came from Scotland, of that she was clear;

But she wasn't quite sure just how long they'd been here.

They spoke of employment, of schooling and such;

They could read some .and write some .. though really not much.

When the questions were answered, his job there was done;

So he mounted his horse and he rode toward the sun.

We can almost imagine his voice loud and clear;

"May God bless you all for another ten years."

Now picture a time warp ... its' now you and me;

As we search for the people on our family tree.

We squint at the census and scroll down so slow;

As we search for that entry from long, long ago.

Could they only imagine on that long ago day;

That the entries they made would effect us this way?

If they knew, would they wonder at the yearning we feel;

And the searching that makes them so increasingly real.

We can hear if we listen the words they impart;

Through their blood in our veins and their voice in our heart.

Author Unknown

 

From:        Fatarm@aol.com Add to Address Book   Date:        Thu, 3 Sep 1998 01:19:42 EDT Subject:        [CRYAN-L] Question of Name Variety    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Does anyone have any explanations/stories/family tales behind the manyvarieties of Crean/Cryan available?  Besides MacLysaght and his palMatheson having listed nearly a dozen alternate spellings/forms of the surname,I'm encountering other possibilities as well.  For example, Mary CRYNGONcame over on The United-Kingdom 14-July-1846.I guess I'm just getting concerned that I'm going to run off my Cryan surnamesearch and discover that my family changed its name from one of thealternative spellings.  Has anyone run across this yet?I also came across in passenger lists:  Luke and Roger CREYON, age 20and 18, labourers from Co. Sligo who emigrated on The Independence, sail date =8-Nov-1803. I've started going through Griffith's Land Valuation ... and (afterbouts of motion sickness thanks to the microfiche reader), have come across twoCryans. If you claim them, let me know:  Michael CRYAN and James CRYAN,occupying separate lands in the parish of Kilbride, townland of Cashelmeehan,Union of Roscommon, Roscommon/Galway Counties.  Both rented their property fromJohn E. Thewles.  Michael had only land, but much more of it than James, whohad a house and offices as well as land.  I'll have more time to hack away atGriffith's next Wednesday - it took a while just to figure it outtoday.  It's fairly apparent (unless I've misread, always a possibility) that Co.Roscommon, where Cryan is most frequent, was done c. 1857.  Have you allalready done this source? or should I keep a keen eye out for somethingspecial?  Any advice on Griffith's?Lastly, my "favorite" Cryan of the week:  Robert Cryan, 1915-1995(Buffalo, NY).  A former FBI special agent, he trained other agents and police injudo and firearms.  After he retired from the Bureau, he battled organizedcrime and narcotics as a Captain in the NY State Police force until 1969.  Hisobituary, posted by ancestry.com, says he's survived by 5 sons, 4 daughters,31 grandkids, and 36 great-grandkids.Check out the "New Databases" section of ancestry.com -- they'refree-access for a limited time, and new dbases are constantly added.Happy hunting, Leslie in Chicago.

 

From:         "Michael Tobin" <tobinmi@hotmail.com> Add to Address Book

   Date:        Fri, 28 Aug 1998 04:35:38 PDT Subject:        [CRYAN-L] John Cryan from Keash, Co. Sligo    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Hello fellow Cryan researchers,Some of you may know me already from previous email we exchanged.My name is Michael Tobin and I was born and reared in the parish of Tourlestrane in Co. Sligo. I now live in Co. Galway.My grandfather was Michael Brennan (1904:1985) from the townland of Drumnagranshy in the parish of Keash, near Ballymote in Co. Sligo. His mother was Mary Anne Cryan (1877:1954) from the neighbouring townlandof Tonraponra, also in the parish of Keash. In the birth records for Mary Anne and her siblings, the name of the townland is sometimes indicated as Crosses. This is a neighbouring townland and it is not clear yet as to why it was used in the birth records.Her father was John Cryan (1845:1928) from the same area. It is believed  that he was the oldest in his family, but I have no details as yet of his siblings. His father is likely to have been Matthew Cryan, but I have to confirm this yet. There is a Matthew Cryan who married aBridget Hannon in Keash in 1844, and I am fairly confident that they are John's parents but have some further confirmation to do on this first before I am certain.Regards Michael

 

From:        Fatarm@aol.com Add to Address Book   Date:        Thu, 27 Aug 1998 23:21:08 EDT Subject:        [CRYAN-L] More Cryans to add from Obits and Ship lists index

        (for US and Canada)    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Let me know if you would like more info on the below:

NAME                            BIRTHDATE       LOCATION                DEATH DATE

Cryan   Bridget         pre-1816        NYC in 1816            

Cryan   Catharine       pre-1816        NYC in 1816            

Cryan   Jack                                    NYC                     d. 1/22/1971

Cryan   James           pre-1816        NYC in 1816            

Cryan   James A.                                NYC                     d. 3/1/1906

Cryan   Martin          pre-1816        NYC in 1816            

Cryan   Mary            pre-1816        NYC in 1816            

Cryan   Michael pre-1816        NYC in 1816            

Cryan   Michael c. 1840         Boston, MA in 1850             

Cryan   Michl           pre-1812        Canada in 1812 (may be same as next)   

Cryan   Michl           c. 1792         Canada in 1812         

Cryan   Patrick         pre-1816        NYC in 1816            

Cryan   Timothy pre-1816        NYC in 1816

 

I've only listed the Cryans I came across on my "hot" date night (husband blewme off because of work, and left me to my own devices at the downtown  library).  I have tons of Creans, and some Creahans, Creegans, Creigans etc.Let me know who you're searching for, or if you're looking undersomething other than CRYAN.Finally, want to read of the life of a Crean?  Major Thomas Joseph Crean, b.1873 in Dublin, was quite a guy.  In the 1923 Who's Who he's listed as both hero and war veteran.  He received the Royal Humane Society Testimonial for saving life at sea in 1891.  He was the son of Michael Theobald Crean, barrister,  the husband (m. 1905) of Victoria, oldest daughter of Senor don Tomas Heredia of Malaga, and the father of one son and one daughter.  He served in South and west Africa and the European War (WWI to those living much after 1923) with 1st Cavalry Brigade and 44th Field Ambulance in France.  He was wounded in action in Tygerskoof, S. Africa, and decorated for his actions there.  Yet he had time to relax:  he was a serious rugby player and a member of the Army & Navy Bucks club.  The write-up is much more detailed -wish I could claim him, he seems a swell guy.  Let me know if you can and I'll forward more details.  -Leslie

 

From:        Fatarm@aol.com Add to Address Book   Date:        Thu, 27 Aug 1998 09:27:19 EDT Subject:        [CRYAN-L] Re: Libraries with Genealogy collections/departments:

    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

I saw this posted on another mailing list, and thought I'd share:<<I have just noticed that at the Kindred Konnections web location there is afree service to search for (and/or list) libraries which have a  genealogydepartment. Should you be interested, the URL is: http://209.140.72.162/cgi-bin/genealogy/index?8940+904145229+A+English If that does not get you there, go through the site map at :http://209.140.72.162/cgi-bin/genealogy/homepage?8940+904145229+English

OR:http://209.140.72.162/indexeng.html>>Hope it helps someone, Leslie

 

From:        Fatarm@aol.com Add to Address Book   Date  Wed, 26 Aug 1998 18:06:31 EDT Subject:        [CRYAN-L] Visit to Newberry Library, here in Chicago    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.comWithin the next week I'm hoping to get over to the Newberry Library here in

Chicago and check out their genealogy collection.  Believe me, I'll  copy downeverything I see relating to a Cryan or Crean, but I was wondering if anyonewants me to look for a certain record or book along the way? What I mean is, they have a great collection, and if you've been  looking for a book and haven't been able to get it, I'd be happy to do a look-up in their catalogue and let you know if they have it.  They are a private,non-lending library, just fyi.  I can't get to this library often, between it's hours,it's exclusion of kids under the age of 16, and the high cost of a sitter.  So I'm planning my first visit as an 8-hour marathon.  I don't mind looking for family histories other than the name of Cryan, either.  Just email me at: fatarm@aol.com if you have something for me to lookup (but be specific).  You can check out the library's main collection through the website:  www.newberry.org  -- my computer is too slow to use theiron- line catalogue.  Write soon if you have something - I may be able to get over there Monday or Tuesday.  Leslie

 

from:        Fatarm@aol.com Add to Address Book   Date:Mon, 24 Aug 1998 22:17:44 EDT Subject:        [CRYAN-L] A few more have joined    To:          CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

 

... and now we are ten.  I'm still hoping for a better translation than  my one  year of latin can provide for the Cryan family motto:  "Coe mundum crea in me Deus".  For those of you who have just joined in, we've started off by posting our earliest known Cryans/Creans, their locations, dates, occupations or whatever  is known.  So far Tony (Australia) has posted re: his Gggranddad Domnick and his wife Catherine Cauly/Cawley, a farmer from  Gurteen, Sligo, his son Thomas  and daughter Sarah in the 19th c. and I posted re: Robert Cryan b.  1841-ish.Please email the group with any Cryan-related matter by emailing     And, personally, I would love someone to fill me in about the Cryan'   Shames. Or, why the Murphy's get a tartan and the Cryan's don't.  We can leave   the explanations for these things and other universal mysteries for another day ... - Leslie

 

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Hi again from Eve,Thank you for your reply. I am on an internet diet and unfortunately restricted to only twice a week so I was lucky to have tuned in today. Thank you for the offer of the list of deaths but I already have 1864-1905 and a large portion of the births, for both England and Ireland.However I would be interested in the Irish Times article  re"Where's that" . I am also VERY interested in you mentioning Lord Lorton papers.  Although I am not certain,and as yet have no evidence, the most likely place for my family to have come is Carrowcrory as I said before , which is also part of the Lorton estates. Where are these estate records kept? Is it the NationalArchives? Do your family come from Boyle parish? I have picked out all the Boyle registrations from my lists and am beginning to match them up roughly with the names from the IGI  - only roughly   because the same names occur so often and it is never clear which Thomas married  which Catherine. But starting with the uncommon names one can dosomething. I was wrong I think about the RC parish for Carrowcrory being Toomourfor I  am now looking at Drumrat RC parish which I think is also called Keesheand this can only be 10 -15 miles or so from Boyle. I have just looked at a film of parish registers which is supposed to  be for Toomour (RC)Co Sligo. Partof the film is definitely for Foxford parish (Co Mayo) which also May be called Toomour because the townlands are given for each family mentioned. The other part of the film is in dispute .I have a list of all the CRYANs and their neighbours in a fair number of the townlands in the area and would have expected more than one CRYAN marriage between 1830 and 1840, the other names do  not occur and the name is spelt  CREAN which is much more common in Co Mayo. I will just wait and see and    keep an open mind. BUT as a means of clearing up the dispute is there anyway of finding out the extent of the RC diocese of Achonry ie does it include Foxford and Ballymoteand the area south to Loch Gara? Thanks for your reply Kevin (I hope that you do not mind this spelling!) Until again ,regards Eve

 

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f rom:        <Fatarm@aol.com> Add to Address Book   Date:        Mon, 24 Aug 1998 09:42:03 EDT    To:        caoimhghin@yahoo.com  Subject:        Re: Re: CRYAN -- Rootsweb now hosting a Cryan mailing list

Yes, I finally got a hold of the RIC book and devoured it.  I haven't  mailed

off any enquiries yet -- I think my best next step is to get Robert's RIC # from the Mormon indexes and then write away for stuff.  Well, obviously, that's my only choice!  But right now I'm trying to get the Cryan mailing list  up and going -- I got Anthony from over in Australia to post his  ancestors,  but another five list members are fairly silent.  Do you want a copy ofAnthony's posting?  Do me a favor -- sign-up!  Not only am I sure  you'll have valuable contributions, but it's not a hugely active list, so it won't take uptime. I'm more interested than ever in getting Robert's service record.  Since itwas policy to send the constables away from their home county, I have at leasta partial explanation why children were born in Co. Mayo.  And I also have some sort of explanation as to why his wife was a housekeeper for British officers and his daughter Agnes the first Catholic to work at Linde (now I just have to figure out what Linde was/is!). Thanks for recommendingthe book.   So you're a student!  You'll have to explain your course of studysometime: language & politics?  I'm a former medieval art historian.  Had a turn atcomputer programming, working at law firms, then consulting after my son wasborn.  Now I'm just a mom - with a new hobby.  It's just a great way to givedirection to my reading, which was foundering around before I happened uponthis.  My husband's family has been over here since the 17th c. and includesHuguenots, plantation/slave owners, and all sorts of interesting personalities.  I'm reading all sorts of stuff -- my reading had rarely taken me past the 17th c. before!So keep forwarding recommended reading and I'll do the same.  Rootsweb is alsohosting an Irish reading group.  I don't know if it's supposed to be just Irish literature, or what.  Being on their lists is free.  Hope you'll sign up for the Cryan list -- Leslie Poche'

 

ALL FOLLOWING EMAILS DATED SEPTEMBER 1998

Hi everyone,

 

   I have been hesitant to submit anything to the list yet because I

am hardly a genealogist and not very organized, but in case anyone

out there is looking for some of my people, I figured I'd finally

post.

     My mother's maiden name was Marilyn Crehan (b. 1938.) She is the

daughter of Arthur Thomas Crehan (1906-89,) who was born in

Haverhill, Massachusetts, and came here to Brooklyn, NY, with his

mother and some of his twelve siblings in the 1910s or 1920s. We

don't know much about Arthur's father who had died by then, other

than that he was _probably_ from Roscommon. His wife, Margaret

O'Donoghue (sp) was born in 1872, probably in Donegal, and died in

1952. My mother lost contact with her father when she was a child,

 and last saw any of his relatives before I was born in the 1970s, so I'm not

really connected to the extended Crehan family.

 

  The rest of the Crehan names and places that I know are available

from http://www.inch.com/~amethyst/idxc.htm (which may need a few

minor corrections in places,) or just e-mail me if you

would like to know something. Thanks to all the people who have been

posting information about Crehans, Cryans et al.

Sincerely,Theresa Mary Nehemias

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[SP2]Because I think that's all I'm going to cover here - but before you go and

delete, I'd like to point out that 5/22 current subscribers had their original

form of O'Crean changed.  And since you mystery six [you know who you are ;) ]

who have yet to let on as to whom you are researching ... well, just maybe

this does pertain to you.  Plus, I inevitably wander and include other stuff.

*  * 

First of all, a rootsweb site to check out:  www.rootsweb.com/~genepool/

There were two Crane biographies listed, but as I only bothered to read one

and it was about an English Crane, this may be a total bust.  However, it

ought to be mentioned because it has another section on language we've

inherited, and I couldn't help but wonder....  In my Cryan family two phrases

have stood the test of time and (now) four or more generations:  "More's the

pity" and "More fool you".  For all I know these phrases are uttered out of

the mouth of every housewife and babe in arms in Dublin, but I couldn't help

but wonder -- do any other Cryans have something like this?  Do any of you

other O'Crean-types have so-called family phrases?

Now, back to the Crean-crew:  John O'Hart's "The Irish & Anglo-Irish Landed

Gentry" (orig. 1884, reprint 1969): 

 

p. 456: "Symon CRANE" listed in the Grants, Under the Acts of Settlement &

Explanation [1661-65].

 

p. 35:  The BENNETT Family:  "134.  Eleanor, daughter of Nathaniel WARREN; m.

Robert CREAN of Dublin (of the CREAN-LYNCH Family) .... This Eleanor in 1838

removed to the City of NY with her children.

"135.  Henrietta-Agnes CREAN (d. in Saxony 31 mar, 1873); daughter of Eleanor.

Married in NYC 6-June-1840, James Gordon BENNETT, who was born at New Mill,

Keith, Banfshire, in Scotland; was the founder of the "NY Herald" Newspaper;

and died in 1872, leaving issue one son and one daughter ..."

footnote:  "This Henrietta-Agnes CREAN had a brother Robert CREAN of NYC, who

d. s.p.; and two sisters - 1. Helena-Margarette CREAN, 2. Georgina CREAN.

This  Helena-Margarette CREAN married, first, Lindsay Downes RICHARDSON of

Dublin (son of Marmaduke Jenni RICHARDSON of Armagh) and had: 1. Linsay Robert

RICHARDSON of NYC, Capt. 7th NY N.G. (d.s.p. 1873); Marmaduke Jenni Schomberg

RICHARDSON, NYC, living in 1881; 3. Eleanor RICHARDSON-BISHOP, D.S.p. in 1880

- all three born in Dublin.  And Georgina CREAN, mentioned above, m.

Vichenburg of NY, living in Holland in 1881."

Index to Clonfert Marriage License Bonds, Wills & Administration Bonds,

Supplement to the Irish Ancestor, 1970, Rosemary Ffolliott.

[note: no listings of known forms of O'Crean in Clonfert Marriage records]

Wills:  Page 7:

Mary CREANE, Cartron, Killaghtan, Galway, 1848 [date of will]

Stephen CREANE, Cartron, Galway, 1847 [date of will]

Books authored by Creans:

Frank J. CREAN's "Exploring the Canadian Northwest" (NY, 1911)  Description

and travel in Saskatchewan, Canada.

I'll see what else I can type up and send off this weekend, folks.  Leslie

 

Hi all,

I have another very useful website called "Ireland Bridge" - which may be

useful for those wishing or trying to leap the pond.

http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Haven/1538/irish.html

This give lots of linking sites for more information. Most particularly

access to Cyndi's Lists some of which have ships and immigrant passenger

lists from Ireland to the USA.

I hope that this is helpful, until again Eve

 

Hi Leslie and Group:

Thank you for the invitation to join the Cryan List.  I am a Cregan

descendant.  I haven't done much investigation of  the Cregan line yet.  So

all I do have are unsubstantiated "stories."  My mother used to talk about her

Cregans as though they were the "black sheep" of the family.

My mother was born Gertrude Frances Cregan on January 9, 1910 and she died

July 8, 1980.  She was raised in Greenfield, a very Irish area of Pittsburgh.

My grandfather was born Francis A. Cregan in 1888 and died August 22, 1951. He

was a glass blower and I still have some of his work. He was institutionalized

in his early thirties though for some type of dementia.  I intend to request

his old medical records someday.

The colorful one in the family was my great-grandmother.  My mother says her

name was Maggie Smith.  She supposedly met my great-grandfather in England.

He was a merchant marine.  According to my mother Maggie found herself "with

child" and followed my great-grandfather Cregan to the USA and made him marry

her. My mom said she had a beautiful singing voice.  The only problem was, she

would sing on her front stoop at 2:00 am after having downed quite a few

brews.  She would get arrested often and my poor dear mother was terribly

ashamed of her.......but she wasn't a true Cregan after all.

So, I don't have any stories of wealth or heroics from the Cregan side of my

family.  If there are any Cregans out there who might be related to my very

dysfunctional clan, please fess up.

Thanks,

Joanne Tyler-Tucker

 

The following was sent to me, and I thought it might (eventually) help

someone.  In the meantime, it's just interesting.

OCCUPATIONS CHART [Definitions of Yesteryear's Job Titles]

 It seems the War Chart was such a popular item (and a revised edition

 with additions and minor corrections is planned in a month or so) I have

 put together this "LIST OF  OCCUPATIONS" used in the older records.  I

 put these 130 items together from many sources and used it as a handout

 for our local Orange County (NY) Genealogical Society.  I was asked by

 many War Chart recipients if the CHART could be forwarded to other lists

 or used in local newsletters.  The answer is yes -- please share this >

 information.

  Dan Burrows

 dburrows1@juno.com

 dburrows2@juno.com

 

 Accomptant      Accountant

 Almoner         Giver of charity to the needy

 Amanuensis      Secretary or stenographer

 Artificer            A soldier mechanic who does repairs

 Bailie          Bailiff

 Baxter          Baker

 Bluestocking    Female writer

 Boniface           Keeper of an inn

 Brazier         One who works with brass

 Brewster                Beer manufacturer

 Brightsmith     Metal Worker

 Burgonmaster    Mayor

 Caulker         One who filled up cracks (in ships or windows or seems

 to

 make them watertight by using tar or oakum-hemp fiber produced by

 taking old ropes apart

 Chaisemaker     Carriage maker

 Chandler       Dealer or trader; one who makes or sells candles;

 retailer

 of groceries

 Chiffonnier     Wig maker

 Clark           Clerk

 Clerk           Clergyman, cleric

 Clicker         The servant of a salesman who stood at the door to

 invite

 customers; one who received the matter in the galley from the

 compositors

 and arranged it in due form ready for printing;  one who makes eyelet

 holes

 in boots  using a machine which clicked.

 Cohen           Priest

 Collier          Coal miner

 Colporteur      Peddler of books

 Cooper           One who makes or repairs vessels made of staves &

                         hoops,  such as casks, barrels, tubs, etc.

 Cordwainer      Shoemaker, originally any leather worker using leather

                           from   Cordova/Cordoba in Spain

 Costermonger    Peddler of fruits and vegetables

 Crocker         Potter

 Crowner         Coroner

 Currier         One who dresses the coat of a horse with a currycomb;

 one who tanned leather by incorporating oil or grease

 Docker          Stevedore, dock worker who loads and unloads cargo

 Dowser          One who finds water using a rod or witching stick

 Draper          A dealer in dry goods

 Drayman         One who drives a long strong cart without fixed sides

 for

 carrying heavy loads

 Dresser         A surgeon's assistant in a hospital

 Drover          One who drives cattle, sheep, etc. to market;  a dealer

 in

 cattle

 Duffer          Peddler

 Factor          Agent, commission merchant;  one who acts or transacts

 business for another; Scottish steward or bailiff of an estate

 Farrier         A blacksmith, one who shoes horses

 Faulkner                Falconer

 Fell monger     One who removes hair or wool from hides in

 preparation for leather making

 Fletcher      One who made bows and arrows

 Fuller          One who fulls cloth;one who shrinks and thickens woolen

 cloth by  moistening, heating, and pressing; one who cleans  and

 finishes

 cloth

 Gaoler          A keeper of the goal, a jailer

 Glazier         Window glassman

 Hacker          Maker of hoes

 Hatcheler          One who combed out or carded flax

 Haymonger       Dealer in hay

 Hayward         Keeper of fences

 Higgler         Itinerant peddler

 Hillier         Roof tiler

 Hind            A farm laborer

 Holster         A groom who took care of horses, often at an inn

 Hooker          Reaper

  Hooper          One who made hoops for casks and barrels

 Huckster                Sells small wares

 Husbandman      A farmer who cultivated the land

 Jagger          Fish peddler

 Journeyman      One who had served his apprenticeship and mastered

 his  craft,  not bound to serve a master, but hired by the day

 Joyner / Joiner A skilled carpenter

 Keeler          Bargeman

 Kempster                Wool comber

 Lardner         Keeper of the cupboard

 Lavender                Washer woman

 Lederer         Leather maker

 Leech           Physician

 Longshoreman    Stevedore

 Lormer          Maker of horse gear

 Malender                Farmer

 Maltster                Brewer

 Manciple                A steward

 Mason           Bricklayer

 Mintmaster      One who issued local currency

 Monger          Seller of goods (ale, fish)

 Muleskinner     Teamster

 Neatherder      Herds cows

 Ordinary Keeper Innkeeper with fixed prices

 Pattern Maker   A maker of a clog shod with an iron ring. A clog  was

 a wooden pole with a pattern cut into the end

 Peregrinator    Itinerant wanderer

  Peruker                 A wig maker

  Pettifogger     A shyster lawyer

  Pigman          Crockery dealer

  Plumber         One who applied sheet lead for roofing and set lead

 frames for plain or stained glass windows.

 Porter          Door keeper

 Puddler         Wrought iron worker

 Quarrier        Quarry worker

 Rigger          Hoist tackle worker

  Ripper          Seller of fish

 Roper           Maker of rope or nets

 Saddler         One who makes, repairs or sells saddles or other

 furnishings for horses

 Sawbones         Physician

 Sawyer              One who saws; carpenter

 Schumacker     Shoemaker

 Scribler             A minor or worthless author

 Scrivener          Professional or public copyist or writer; notary

 public

 Scrutiner          Election judge

 Shrieve            Sheriff

 Slater               Roofer

 Slopseller              Seller of ready-made clothes in a slop shop

 Snobscat / Snob   One who repaired shoes

 Sorter              Tailor

 Spinster           A woman who spins or an unmarried woman

 Spurrer           Maker of spurs

 Squire            Country gentleman;  farm owner;  justice of peace

 Stuff gown      Junior barrister

 Stuff gownsman  Junior barrister

 Supercargo      Officer on merchant ship who is in charge of cargo and

 the commercial concerns of the ship.

 Tanner           One who tans (cures) animal hides into leather

 Tapley           One who puts the tap in an ale cask

 Tasker           Reaper

 Teamster       One who drives a team for hauling

 Thatcher          Roofer

 Tide waiter     Customs inspector

 Tinker             Am itinerant tin pot and pan seller and repairman

 Tipstaff            Policeman

 Travers           Toll bridge collection

 Tucker            Cleaner of cloth goods

 Turner             A person who turns wood on a lathe into spindles

 Victualer         A tavern keeper, or one who provides an army, navy, or

 ship with food

 Vulcan             Blacksmith

 Wagoner         Teamster not for hire

 Wainwright      Wagon maker

 Waiter             Customs officer or tide waiter; one who waited on the

 tide  to

 collect duty on goods brought in

 Waterman        Boatman who plies for hire

 Webster           Operator of looms

 Wharfinger       Owner of a wharf

 Wheelwright    One who made or repaired wheels; wheeled carriages, etc.

 Whitesmith      Tinsmith; worker of iron who finishes or polishes the

 work

 Whitewing       Street sweeper

 Whitster           Bleach of cloth

 Wright             Workman, especially a construction worker

 Yeoman          Farmer who owns his own land

 

Trying to find more information about my CREGAN family roots.  Patrick Cregan

b 1862 , Nellie Cregan b abt 1870 , two younger siblings Michael and Catherine

Cregan.  They were all born in Limerick, Ireland.  Mother's name was Catherine

but i do not know her maiden name.  They emigrated to the US landing in NYC in

about 1886. Catherine's husband was left in Ireland I believe, either dead or

alive I am not sure.  There is no record of him here.  Any help will be most

greatly appreciated.

-RuthK3834@aol.com

 

Hi Folks,

Leslie's research data caught my interest because it addresses an issue in my

research on McCROHAN.  I trust there are list members knowledgeable in the

etymology of surnames and/or Gaelic to help me make clearer distinctions among

the surname threads that sound alike, but have different origins and are so

easily confused. The following is my present, somewhat hazy, understanding.

My MacCrohans are a branch of the O'Sullivans who can be found almost

exclusively in County Kerry, with their seat at the castle at Letter,

Cahirciveen. In researching I have found that the most general spelling is

McCrohan, with variations MacCroghan, MacCrehan.  Its origin seems to be Mac

Criomhthainn.

>From my reading it appears that Croghan is a distinct name, having its source

in Mac Conchruachan and origins in Co.Roscommon.  Also that Crehan, without a

prefix, is O'Creachain, having its origin in Mayo and now also found in

Galway.  Other Crehans have their origin in O'Criochain of Co.Tyrone, but

because of anglicization has been superseded by Creighton in the Donegal and

Tyrone.

Without a knowledge of Gaelic it is difficult for me to appreciate these fine

distinctions.  I had concluded, however, that my research should  focus on

those with the prefix Mac/Mc and presume that any Croghan, Crohans, Crehans I

come upon probably have different origins. But then Leslie's post crops up in

which Croghons who live in the same location where MacCroghans appear in 1850

(Griffiths) and the 1901 Census are listed as CROGHON for purposes of

confiscation. Back to square one !

Any thoughts on the subject most welcome.

Regards, Pat

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Hi all,

   If any of you weren't aware of http://www.switchboard.com, it

allows you (for free) to search for addresses and phone numbers in the United

States requiring you to enter only a last name.  It was brought to my

attention that this might be useful, I guess if you are looking for

an uncommon name especially. http://www.infospace.com also lets you

search a few other countries' listings including Canada and the UK,

but not Ireland. Just in case it might be helpful...

Theresa Mary

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Share you favorite web-sites!  Tell your family stories!

 

I've recently been contacted by a researcher of the Craun surname whose 18th

c. relative (transported to Australia) used, or can be found under, the forms

Craun, Crawn, Chrahan, Crahan, Chroughan, Croughan, Crone, and Chrawn during

his life.  She wants to know if this/these surnames tie into the Crean group.

Since Pat brought up the research problem with MacCroghan, and because we all

are of one variety or another (excluding the silent folk, we're Cregans,

MacCrohan-MacCroghans, Crains, Cryans, Crehans, Creans, Crean-Craines, Creens,

and Crehan-Cranes), perhaps we can pool info on this subject. 

I only know what I do about the O'Crean surname from what I've read by you

all, MacLysaght and Matheson.  My instinct, from the research that I've done

so far, is that somewhere in the late 18th c. something happened that changed

the way surnames were spelled in Ireland (not just for our O'Creans).  I don't

know enough to say what, but when I read pre-1800 sources there's more gaelic

(first and surnames), more O's and Macs, more GH's in words, and rarely a

"Cryan" to be found (I can't remember seeing any pre-1810 off the top of my

head).  Was it a result of the 1798 rebellion?  A further anglicization of

Ireland (was gaelic ever outlawed in the schools? when was education/literacy

brought to the peasant classes and who brought it?)?  Post-1800 I observe a

more "English" language -- I haven't come across any "Teig"s or "Cnoghers",

for example, in the 1857 Griffith's Valuation of Co. Roscommon -- but lots of

Patricks, Johns, Conors and Michaels.

I've got a book on the shelf to read about the Rebellion of 1798, but I would

be more interested in a recommendation for something about the Irish culture

and the changes of this period -- if I'm not just making this all up in my

head and there actually is something there.

And I'd love a recommendation on what to tell Thomas Craun's descendant.  Pat,

Eve, anyone -- any suggestions?  Leslie

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>From a few side discussions I've had with one or two of you, I think posting

the following information might be helpful in seeing why, even with all our

name variations, we can all belong to the same mailing list.  Of course, some

of you may think not, and you're welcome to email me and ask me to keep you in

mind and then unsubscribe.  I'm hoping, of course, that you won't, and that

you'll stick it out at least a few weeks to see what develops.  Here goes:

(Kevin, I lifted this right out of your document, as I found it to be a

verbatim transcription of MacLysaght - hope you don't mind my laziness):  "O

Crean,Crehan - According to MacFirbis, O Crean and O Cregan are synonymous,

Crehan being a variant of Crean. In Irish Crean and Crehan are O Croidheain

(spelt O Craidhen by the Four Masters) ... These families formed a minor sept

of the Cineal Eoghan belonging to Donegal, with a branch in the neighbouring

county of Sligo. They are twice mentioned by the four Masters as wealthy

merchants, ... in 1506 as of Donegal; in 1572 as of Sligo. The Clongowes

manuscript gives them a higher status : the then head of the family was John O

Crean of Ballynegare, and inanother place in the manuscript O Crean of Annagh

is stated to have been one of the leading families of Co. Sligo in the

sixteenth century. According to the "Annals of Loch Ce" the Bishop of Elphin

in 1582 was an O Crean, but he was "removed" in 1584. Father Daniel O Crean

(d. c. 1616) of Holy Cross, Sligo was Provincial of the Dominican order in a

period of intensive persecution."

Kevin also kindly sent around the following Research Centres, Sites and

References:

There are references to the early Creans in Mary O Dowd's book "Power,

Politics and Land: Early Modern Sligo 1568-1688"; M. Woodmartin's "History of

Sligo" and T. O Rourke's "History of Sligo - Town and County".

If you would like to find out more about your own family write to either The

Sligo Heritage and Genealogical Centre, Stephens St., Sligo or The Roscommon

Heritage and Genealogical Centre, Strokestown, Co. Roscommon.

 

Root Surname List -

http://www.rootsweb.com/roots-l/cabbrev1.html

http:/searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/genea/rsl

www.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/rsl/rslformn

Irish Family History Society,PO Box 36,Naas,Kildare,Ireland

Irish Roots, Belgrave Publications,Belgrave Ave.,Cork, Ireland

www.iol.ie/~irishrts

Roscommon/Sligo Homepage

http://www.thecore.com/let_ros/

 

To Kevin's bit I'd like to add Robert E. Matheson's variations and Synonumes

of Surnames (Dublin, 1901, p. 37):  "Crean:  Crain, Crane, Creaghan, Creen,

Crehan; Cregan: Craigan, Creegan, Creggan, Creghan, Creigan."

In the same volume at my local library is the Special Report on Surnames in

Ireland (1909, Dublin, p. 43-4):  "Table showing the surnames in Ireland

having 5 Entries and upwards in the Birth Indexes of 1890, together with the

number in each registration province, and the registration counties in which

these names are principally found: 

Creagh:  17 births in 1890 index: 6 Leinster, 8 Munster, 1 Ulster, 2 Connaught

Crean (24): 27 births in 1890 index: 4 Leinster, 16 Munster, - Ulster, 7

Connaught (note: 9 in Kerry, 7 in

       Cork, 4 in Wexford)

Cregan (20)/Creegan(13): 33 births in 1890 index: 10 Leinster, 12 Munster, 4

Ulster, 7 Connaught (note:

       "Cregan" Limerick & Meath; "Creegan", Leitrim & Sligo)

Crehan (15): 17 births in 1890 index: -Leinster, 1 Munster, 1 Ulster, 15

Connaught (note: "Crehan" 14 in

       Galway)

Cryan:  15 births in 1890 index: -Leinster, -Munster, -Ulster, 15 Connaught

(note: 10 in Roscommon)

Out of an abbreviated study of MacLysaght's I got the following:

"(o) Cryan, Crynes:  A Co. Roscommon form of Crean." (p. 56)

"(o) Crean, Creaghan, Crehan, O Croidheain [sorry for my lack of proper gaelic

accents]: A Cenel Eoghain sept of Donegal, with a branch in Co. Sligo ...

These names are also anglicized forms of O Criochain alias Mac Criochain of

Ardstraw...  "(o) Creegan, O Croidheagain:  This is Cregan in Co. Limerick.

As Creegan in Co. Sligo it is akin to O'Crean."

 

Hopefully this helps explain why many of us may be way-distant cousins, or at

least viewed as such.  I'd love to hear more from others on the subject.  In

other words, stop wondering and start posting!  :)

Some of you have told me wonderful stories of murder, hardship, castles which

are now "grassy mounds" on "wet hillsides", web-sites you've posted parts of

your genealogy on, and all sorts of places you've checked out.  I'm duly

recording everything into the database that I can fit, but the stories are

really wonderful and would make good reading for us all.  Here's a good one

from me:  I recently found out my Ggrandmother Agnes Cryan Smyth was the first

Catholic to work for Linde Air (her father was an RIC constable and mother was

a housekeeper to British soldiers pre-1916).  During the Depression here in

the States, Agnes had to sell her watch given to her from her Linde Air

employer and her mother's beautiful piano.  Two of Agnes' sister-in-laws

married interesting intellectuals, one an Irish writer whose name no one

remembers and the other a communist who moved his whole family to the USSR in

the twenties (and returned later).  All of our families have such stories - I

look forward to reading your's.    Leslie

 

Ah, studying the humanities ... and realizing one's perfection neuroses along

the way.  I bagged out before I got to that stage:  remaining sane yet still a

small piece of regret (smaller as the years roll by).  My master's thesis was

on Islamic influence on Notre-Dame du Puy (s.central France), and I did a lot

of research on symbol, art, and idea appropriation by cultures in contact with

one another c. 600-1150 AD (largely European-Byzantine-Islamic).  My husband

did his PhD in biochem/mol.biol., and wrote his dissertation in 6 weeks (I

typed most of it, I know).  Of course he spent 6 years in a lab ... but STILL!

This is the sort of thing that annoys me about techies ...

I'm at a space in life, however brief, where this genealogy is a mind-saver.

I'm at home with my three year old full-time just now, and as an indicator of

how much my husband is around -- well, he's off to trial in Delaware, and

won't be back for three weeks.  I've found myself sneaking newspapers while

we're doing art projects, bringing novels to the playlot, etc.  Email keeps

the brain cells functioning.  I'm afraid I have a "sledgehammer" approach to

research.  On the other hand, my time is limited -- next month we'll be house

hunting (our first home), moving and all, maybe half way across the city.  But

I've got Eve on our mailing list now, and she can't wait to start posting

stuff.  So hopefully the list will get going on its own.

Congrats on drafting ch. 5.  I don't mean to pester you, and please don't

interpret this message as a push.  Actually, I'm thankful that everyone seems

so psyched about pooling information.  I AM interested in what you have to

share, since you've been at this for so long, and I can only learn from your

experience.  However, even as I write this a blue suede tennie has appeared on

my mouse pad and I'm now receiving demands for instructions on writing the

letter D.  I look forward to reading your stuff, whenever you get to it (no

pressure), and would be interested in hearing your angle on the political

aspects of language in Ireland.  BTW, Are you in Poli Sci or Linguistics?

Here the trend for the last 15 years has been interdepartmental, which is why

I ask - I assume it's the same in Ireland?  Bye for now, Leslie

 

I heartily second Eve's suggestion of checking out: www.thecore.com/let_ros

...It doesn't yet have much of the 1901 census up (I think interested parties can

volunteer to transcribe a section/parish/townland, or at least can of the

Griffith's Valuation), but a good portion of Griffith's is already up.  It

looks as the administrator, Ed Finn, regularly inputs more data, so it's

something to bookmark and check back occasionally.  I copied out two pages of

data --  And I may have found a relation through the Griffith's posting in Co.

Leitrim.  So it's worth a shot, even though it's not all up yet.

What I would be interested in, from those of you with roots outside of Co.

Roscommon and Leitrim, is -- are there similar sites for other counties?  This

is not an official site, just some nice guy with a passionate interest putting

the stuff up on the web.  But that's why the Griffith's is up and searchable.

I've received a reprieve -- husband's trial got cancelled, so he's back home

instead of gone for a month!  Which means ... I'm off to the library!!  I'll

write about what I find later tonight.

Look forward to hearing from you, Leslie

 

P.S. Some of you have written asking if I've advertized this list here or

there, and I've gotten around certainly, but if there's someone you want to

make sure was invited, please go ahead and write to them.  For example, the

daunting number "220-230" Creans on Ancestry.com has caused me to wait until I

have a faster machine to look through them and email individual researchers.

Just be sure to be friendly, explain that we're as many variations of the

O'Crean family as there can be, and to give instructions on how to subscribe

(just have them email me if in doubt -- I can add them manually).

 

LESLIEProbably not a sole thing to do with my own family, but it was a really

interesting day.  Plus it ended in a real date on a "date night", so I'm

totally jived up on trying to get some of this stuff up on the list tonight.

But I'm going to be a tease and draw it out over a few days, since I hit a big

stockpile of stuff.

I'll begin with John O'Hart's "The Irish & Anglo-Irish Landed Gentry",

originally published in Dublin, 1884, and reprinted in NY by Barnes & Noble

(who knew they were actually a publisher at one point?!) in 1969.

Below is the selection from "A List of the Papist Proprietors names in the Co.

of ___ " as having basically had their property confiscated as part of the

Cromwellian Settlement.  It doesn't sound like much of a "settlement" to me,

given the numerous pages this bit goes on, but I'm ignorant as to this period

of history - I mean, I can tell the basics, but I haven't read anything on it.

If you have, please share.  Anyways, the list:

 

1. Donnell Crene Hara [may not have been an actual Crene, but saw it and

couldn't help myself - had to copy it down], Bar. of Leyny, Co. Sleigo [sic]

2.  Andrew Crean and William Crean of Ba. of Tierill, Sleigo "

3.  Teig Croghan, Bar. of Corkaguiny, Co. Kerry

4.  Andrew Crean, bar. of Carbury, Co. Sleigo [more on this poor fellow later]

5.  William Crean, bar. of Leyny, Co. Sleigo [I believe this is a separate

William from the above.]

6.  Conogh Croghon, bar. of Dunkerron, Co. Kerry

7.  Cnogher MacDermott Croghon, and the Executor of Edward Trant, bar. of

Iveragh, co. Kerry

8.  Cnogher MacCroghon, Litter, bar. of Iveragh, co. Kerry

9.  Teig Croghon, Litter, bar. of Iveragh, co. Kerry

10.  John Oge Croghon, Rynard, bar. of Iveragh, co. Kerry

11.  [and another?] John Oge Croghon, bar. of Iveragh, co. Kerry

12.  Mortagh MacTeig Croghon, bar. of Iveragh, co. Kerry

 

Connaught Certificates:  transplanters 1653-1654, Province of Connaught and

Co. Clare:

1.  Andrew Crean

2.  Julean Crean

3.  Margaret Crean

4.  Christopher Creane

 

On p. 473 of the edition I was looking at, the Crean clan took a rather major

hit.  A chart details the proprietors of Co of Sligo, Baronies of Carbury,

Leyney & Tirerill lands and who got them:

Name of Proprietor in 1641 Denomination of Lands                      To whom forfeited

1.Andrew Crean of parish of              Town, townland & castle   Thomas Sodden

Aghamlisk, bar. of Carbury                of Grange

2.Andrew Crean of St. John's             Bunlinny                                                                                Phillip Ormesby

parish, bar. of Carbury                                       

3.Andrew Crean                                                   Carlish & Cavan                                   Anthony Ormesby

4.Andrew Crean                                                   Lisnalorie, par. of Drum-     Earl Strafford

                                                                                                                cliffe, same barony

5.Andrew Crean                                                   Loghkenneltin, par of                          Anthony Omesby &

                                                                                                                Calrie, same barony                             Phillip Ormesby &

                                                                                                                                                                                                                for pious uses

6.Andrew Crean                                                   Shannanieghragh                                 Earl of Strafford

7.Andrew Crean                                                   Clounshoure                                                         For pious uses

8.Henry Crean                                                                       Carrickingogh                                                       not forfeited

9.William Crean                                                    Cloncally, par of Killery,     Lord Colloony

                                                                                                                bar. of Tirerill

10.William Oge Crean                                          Lisleash, par of Kilniteige     John Boswell & Sir

                                                                                                                bar. of Leyney                                                        Theo. Jones

Villages & Gentleman's Seats and Other Noted Places in Ireland, Dublin, 1814.

I got to touch an original, folks, and it isn't too great of shape.  So I

dutifully copied out all the names I recognized as part of the family group

(or might turn out to be):

 

Joseph Crain, esq. of Ballinville Co. Mayo

John Cronin, esq. of

John Crone, esq. of

Mr. Sterne Crane of

Daniel Cronin, esq. of

Robert Croghan, esq. of

Mr. Richard Crone of

Dennis Croughan [spelled Croghan in the index], esq. of

Eugene Cronin, esq. of

Daniel Cronin, esq. of

Edmund Cronin, esq. of

Daniel Cronin, esq. of

 

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LESLIEOy.  I'm always doing that, and it's SO annoying!  Hit the return, and the

evil IT (this Mac at the moment) sent the email while I was writing it.  So

here's try #2:

Villages & Gentleman's Seats and Other Noted Places in Ireland, Dublin, 1814.

I got to touch an original, folks, and it isn't too great of shape.  So I

dutifully copied out all the names I recognized as part of the family group

(or might turn out to be):

 

Joseph Crain, esq. of Ballinville, Co. Mayo

John Cronin, esq. of Baronbrack, Co. Kilkenny

John Crone, esq. of Byblox, Co. Cork

Mr. Sterne Crane of Cartern, Co. Galway

Daniel Cronin, esq. of Deer-park, Co. Kerry

Robert Croghan, esq. of Dromin, Co. Leitrim

Mr. Richard Crone of Furlongs-town, Co. Wexford

Dennis Croughan [spelled Croghan in the index], esq. of Kildaree, Co. Galway

Eugene Cronin, esq. of Kilnockin, Co. Cork

Daniel Cronin, esq. of Knockyneenane, Co. Cork

Edmund Cronin, esq. of Newtown, Co. Kilkenny

Daniel Cronin, esq. of Ross-view, Co. Kerry

 

The above have add'l info, such as "post-town", of what value I have no idea,

but the usual claim holds true -- if you can claim them or just want the add'l

info, let me know and I'll forward it.

Also, as a note of interest (at least I found it interesting, my dear captive

audience), Leet's Directory also listed several "familiar" sounding PLACE

NAMES, which I hereby post:

Crean, Co. Limerick, Post town Newcastle: resident Rev. Wm. Ashe

Creen's-town, Co. Kildare, post town Maynooth: desc. as townland

Creen's-town, Co. Down, post town Strangford: desc. as village

Cregan, Co. Antrim, post town Randal's town: resident Mr. Patrick O'Hara

Cregan, Co. Derry, Post town Derry: desc. as village

Cregan, Co. Armagh, post town Dundalk: resident Rec. Dioc. Armagh

Creegan, Co. King's, post town Ferbane: desc. as village

Cregan, Co. Westmeath, post town Athlone: resident Geo. Longworth, esq.

Cregan, Co. Donegal, post town Raphoe: desc. as village

Cregane, Co. Galway, post-town Dunmore: resident Felix Mc'Donnell, esq.

Cregane, Co. Galway, post town Ballinasloe: resident Hugh Kelly, esq.

Cregane, Co. Cork, post town Buttevant: desc. as townland

Cregane, Co. Cork, post town Rosscarberry: resident Richard Dunscombe, esq.

Cregane, Co. Clare, post town Miltown Malbay: desc. as townland

Crehan, Co. Tyrone, post town Dunnamanagh: desc. as townland

Croghan, Co. Mayo, post town Killala: desc. as townland

Croghan, Co. Derry, post town Colerain: desc. as townland

Croghan, Co. Donegal, post town Ramelton: resident William Patton, esq.

Croghan, Co. Cavan, post town Killeshandra: (V.) Thos. Carson, esq.

Croghan, Co. Roscommon, post town Elphin: Patrick Brown, esq.

Croghan, Co. King's, post town Philipstown: Rec. Dioc. Kildare

Crohane, Co. Tipperary, post town Killenaule: Rec. Dioc. Cashel

Cronin, Co. Fermanagh, post town Kesh: desc. as townland

 

Anyone have an explanation?  Happy coincidence, or some relation to our

family?

Enough for tonight.  I don't want to overload anyone's mailbox.  I'll keep

posting, unless no one's interested (let me know - a little dialogue on the

list can help us all).  I transcribed some cool Craine and Crean bios, some

will info, and 1951 census abstracts, as well as the usual Griffiths.  Still

haven't finished Griffiths for Co. Roscommon, so I didn't get to the other

Co.'s I promised look-ups on yet, but I will soon.  Leslie

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LESLIEI've gotten a question outside of the list, and after thinking about it, it's

probably the perfect thing to post to this list today.  The researcher was

expressing their frustration at not yet being able to trace their ancestor

back to Ireland - they're stuck in the States, although it's possible to run

into the same problem with anyone that's emigrated to anywhere.

For those of you who had to do research to make that jump across the big pond

(or around the world/over a polar cap, as the case may be), how did you get

there?  I got my stuff handed to me - literally - in the form of an old

passport and a grandmother's memories, which were quickly confirmed by other

researchers.  Until I get to the Mormons, I'm entertaining myself creating the

database on all the O'Creans (and their variations) and getting this list

going.  In other words, I haven't yet tackled research across to the other

side yet either, and would love advice, too.

Kevin Cryan, my first Cryan contact, kindly recommended John Grenham's book,

"Tracing Your Irish Ancestors", which I have found to be an invaluable guide

in explaining what's out there, where to find it (at least in Ireland - he

didn't exhaust the libraries of the world, so I've found the stuff elsewhere,

too), and what's in it/how useful it is.

>From there I exhausted my local main public library's collection, including an

Index to Ship's List, which, although it gave me plenty of names, didn't link

up to any of my family's in that I could tell.  I'm on the next tier of

libraries - I might be leaving the Chicago area shortly, and figure I can hit

the nearest Mormon center in my next hometown, but won't have access to the

Newberry from there.  Has everyone else just gone to the Mormons, if there?

What kind of experience did you have? Was it easy to use?  Are they pretty

thorough re: Ireland?  I recently read a French article on a Huguenot list

(for spouse's family) that fewer than 1% of French people had been "caught" by

the Mormons.

I'd be interested to learn more ... Leslie

 

LESLIEFirst, a little business.  I thought I should let you all know that I've

started monitoring a few other lists, such as the "Crain" mailing list, to see

if anyone in these other lists ought to post their info to our list, too.

Second, the following posting from Griffith's includes some "Groghans",

because I've seen before that the spelling variation may be related to

"Croghan."  So, no, I'm not mistyping or going overboard.  Although I do have

to say, I'm more likely to miss them ...

And, third, I've still got two films to go for Co. Roscommon before I start

looking at other counties.  Unfortunately the library is missing microfiche

#7, and unless it turns up, I'll be missing info from about 80 pages: Union of

Strokestown, Barony of Ballintober, N. until about page 116 of the Union of

Strokestown.  In other words, I'll only have completed about 90% of Co.

Roscommon.  I'm checking around for other places to access the info and will

have to let you know.

In the meantime, here's about 20% more of Co. Roscommon:

 

Parish/Townland: Occupier; Immediate Lessor; Description: Area

 

Kilbride/Roxborough: Croghan, Michael; Morgan, Michael; Garden: 0.1.30

Kilgefin/Fariymount: Croghan, Patrick; Daly, Augusta land (orchard): 1.1.20

Kilteevan/Aghmagree: Croghan, Charles; Mapother, John E.; House, off, land:

49.0.22

Kilteevan/Tonlegee: Croghan, Michael & Patrick; Irwin, Daniel; land: 4.2.30

Kilteevan/Tonlegee: Croghan, Mary; Irwin, Daniel; house: -

Kilteevan/Tonlegee: Croghan, Patrick; Irwin, Daniel; house: -

Roscommon/Ardkeel: Cryan, Patrick; Pelly, Louisa; house, land: 5.3.0 / land:

2.0.25

Roscommon/Ardkeel: Cryan, Bernard; Pelly, Louisa; house & land: 10.0.11

Roscommon/Ballypheasan: Croghan, Luke; Earl of Essex; house & garden [next to

ruins?]: 0.0.19

Roscommon/Ballypheasan: Croghan, Luke; Free; Forge: -

Roscommon/Ballypheasan: Croghan, James; Goodman, Samuel; House & sm. garden: -

Dunamon/Ballymacfarbane: Croghan, John; Armstrong, Oliver; house: -

Dunamon/Emlaghyroyin: Croghan, John; Armstrong, Oliver; house: -

Oran/Island lower: Croghan, John; Caulfield, St. George; land: 9.2.14

Oran/Turksland: Croghan, Peter; Caulfield, St. George; house & land: 12.3.23

Oran/Turksland: Croghan, John        Caulfield, St. George; house & land: 8.3.20

Cloonfinlough/Clooncah: Croghan, Michael; Burke, Edmund (in chancery); house,

office, land: (part of) 151.1.15

Cloonfinlough/Clooncah: Croghan, Owen;Burke, Edmund (in chancery); house &

land: (part of) 151.15

Cloonfinlough/Killultagh: Croghan, Luke; Bellew, Sir Christopher; house &

land: 7.0.0

Kilglass/Killastalliff: Croghan, Patrick; Balfe, Nicholas; land: 2.1.35 &

11.0.10

Kilglass/Killastalliff: Croghan, Patrick; Balfe, Nicholas; house, office &

land: 17.1.30

Kilglass/Killastalliff: Croghan, John; Balfe, Nicholas; house & land: 14.1.0

Kiltrustan/Kildalloge: Croghan, Julia; Mahon, Henry S.P.; herd's house & land:

9.1.10

Ogulla/Carrowgarve: Croghan, Michael; Nugent, Anthony F.; house, off. & land:

(part of) 81.3.34

Ogulla/Carrowgarve: Croghan, Hugh; Nugent, Anthony F.; house, off. & land:

(part of) 81.3.34

Ogulla/Carrowgarve: Croghan, Michael; Nugent, Anthony F.; house, office &

land: (part of) 136.2.26        

Ballintober/Ballyfinegan: Cryan, Patrick; Sandford, William R.W.              house, office

& land: 14.0.0

Ballintober/Ballyfinegan: Cryan, Bridget; Cryan, Patrick; house: -

Ballintober/Ballyfinegan: Grogan, Michael; McLoughlin, James; house & sm

garden: -

Ballintober/Ballyfinegan: Cryan, Laurence; Bligh, Thomas; house & land: 1.0.35

Ballintober/Cloonykerny: Grogan, John; McGrath, Susanna; house & land: 2.0.0

Ballintober/Toberkeagh: Grogan, John; Sandford, William R.W.; house, office &

land: 45.1.10

Baslick/Caddellbrook: Croghan, Thomas; Caddell, Rhd. O'Ferrall;land: (part of)

10.1.35

Baslick/Caddellbrook: Croghan, Thomas;Caddell, Rhd. O'Ferrall;land: (part of)

25.3.10

Baslick/Caddellbrook: Croghan, Thomas; Caddell, Rhd. O'Ferrall; house &

office: -

Baslick/Cloonbard: Croghan, Catherine; Pakenham, Hon. & Very Rev. Henry;

house, office & land: 5.0.0; land: 4.0.0; land: 2.2.25

Baslick/Knockalegan: Cryne, Matthew; Balfe, Patrick; house & land: (part of)

6.1.2

Baslick/Knockalegan: Cryne, Mary; Balfe, Patrick; house & land: (part of)

6.1.2

Baslick/Milltown: Cryne, Thomas; O'Connor, Roderick; house: -

Baslick/Milltown: Cryan, Patrick; O'Connor, Roderick; house & land (part of)

5.3.20

Baslick/Rathfuadagh: Grogan, Honoria            Taafe, Patrick        house & garden: 0.1.8

Kilcorkey/Carrowreagh: Croghan, John; O'Conor, Arthur; house, office & land:

24.2.10

Kilkeevin/Annaghmaghera: Creane, Stephen; O'Conor, Charles Owen; house & land:

153.1.17

Kilkeevin/Arm: Grogan, Michael; Grady, Mary; house & garden (no val): 0.0.10

Kilkeevin/Arm: Croghan, Peter; Simpson, Anne; house: -

Kilkeevin/Arm: Croghan, Hugh; Simpson, Anne; house: -

Kilkeevin/Beagh: Grogan, Peter; Young, James; land: (part of) 6.3.10

Kilkeevin/Beagh: Grogan, Patrick; Young, James; house, office & land: 13.0.0

Kilkeevin/Beagh: Grogan, John; Young, James; house, office & land: 17.3.0

Kilkeevin/Town of Castlereagh: Croghan, Mary; Sandford, William R.W.; house,

yard & garden: 0.0.20

 

I am looking for Bruno Creene or Creen. He is thought to have been born

in Berlin. Mother was German, Father Irish????

He lived his life in New York.  He had 2 sons Rufus and Joseph and 2

daughters Isabelle (born 1905) and Jessica.

He was married to Charlotte Kerner. She divorced him and married a

widower James O'Donnell whose son Lester, by wife Mary Harrigan, married

Isabelle.

Bruno is thought to have died in the 1940's. I have also heard he died

in the 1960's. He may have been born around 1880-

Any information would be helpful.

Thank you!

Kathleen

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Hello!

I am researching the Creens. They lived in New York and the son Rufus

may have lived in up-state New York. The Father Creen may have been a

Rufus also. His wife divorced him early in the marriage which was hard

for her to do from what I am told. Any information would be appreciated.

Does anyone know if there is an O'Donnell list also?

THank you and blessings.

Kathleen

 

Descendants of Creen

                               

        1      Creen      Abt. 1880 - Abt. 1960

........        2              Rufus Creen          1908 - 1985

.               +Charlotte Kerner                1886 - 1959

........        2              Isabelle Creen       1905 - 1938

............                    +Lester Aloyisius O'Donnell              1906 - 1992

 

...................             3             

........        2              Jessica Creen       

........        2              Joseph Creen       

........        2              Rufus Creen         

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I understand that there was a famous Irish CREAN on one of the expeditions

to the South Pole--anyone familiar with this?

Kathleen CraineChicago, IL

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A thoughtful researcher (tmlein@fullnet.com) knew someone on this list might

like to have the following (there is no connection to the researcher, Mary

just came across it while researching parish of Keel, Castlemaine and parish

of Annascaul in Kerry and thought of us):

Catherine Crean b.?, d. 31-Dec-1942 Maghashealagh, Castlegregory, Co. Kerry

m. Cornelius "Con" Cahillane b. 17-Feb-?, Gortaleen, Keel, Castlemaine, Kerry,

d. 3-Dec-1919 Maghaskeelagh, Castlegregory, Kerry.

[I know the locations are spelled slightly differently - there's no

explanation]

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Kathleen writes:

I am looking for Bruno Creene or Creen. He is thought to have been born

in Berlin. Mother was German, Father Irish????

He lived his life in New York.  He had 2 sons Rufus and Joseph and 2

daughters Isabelle (born 1905) and Jessica.

He was married to Charlotte Kerner. She divorced him and married a

widower James O'Donnell whose son Lester, by wife Mary Harrigan, married

Isabelle.

Bruno is thought to have died in the 1940's. I have also heard he died

in the 1960's. He may have been born around 1880-

I looked in the Social Security Death Index and could find no one by the name

of Bruno Creen, although there were a number of Creen's listed.  There were

absolutely no Creene names (with an e) at all in the index.  Many people who

died in the 40's didn't have a social security number.  Perhaps you could try

to request a death certificate from New York State?  Pennsylvania will do a 10

year search (for a fee) and New York may also provide this service.

Luck in your search,Joanne 

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I have looked in the USA Social Security Death Index - I am not sure what

that is but have found an Arthur which seems to fit.

I am giving a list of only male CREHANs because except for last residence

there is no link between male and female, and CREHAN could well be a married

name for a female.

I have only extracted births from 1890 when Margaret would be 18 to about

1915 when she would be about 43 and in NY area and some from Mass. (up to

John or I would never finish).

I suggest a time line and it will show who could be siblings - 3 births in 1

year suggest 3 families; less than 9 months between births is very unlikely;

unlikely to give the same name to more than on surviving child  etc etc etc.

Anyway here goes - I hope it is of use - all the best Eve

PS This may not be received as well tabulated as sent

 

Extract from USA Social Service Death Index

CREHAN   1890 - c1915

 

Name         Birth date       Place of   Death date      Last residence

                                       SS Issue

Arthur        24Jan 1906      NY          2April 1989   -

Charles      17July1898      NY          May1968     Latham NY

Charles      4June1899       Mass      Sept1983     Weymouth Mass.

Edward      24Jan1902       NY          July1972      Hollywood,Florida

Edward      11Aug1911      NY          Sept1968      -

Francis      18Dec1897      Mass      April1968      WestRoxbury Mass

Francis      25Feb1903      NJ          June1984      W.PalmBeach Florida

Francis      17July1910      NY         May1987      BuffaloNY

Frank         8Feb1909       NY         27Sept1990  Scottsdale,Arizona

Henry        17Dec1889      NY         April1982     NewYorkNY

Henry        21March 1913  NY         June1973    -

Herbert      10Oct1901      Mass      Nov1950      -

James       6Oct1889        Mass      March1974  Dorchester Mass

James       11Sept1894     Mass      June1964     -

James       19Jan1905       NY         May1982     Staten Is,NY

James       6Jan1907         NJ         March1986   Camden,NJ

John          21Dec1891      Mass     June1973     W. Roxbury,Mass

John          28March1891   Con       4Dec1989    Danbury,Con

John          7April1898       Mass     March1968  JamaicaPlain,Mass

John          20May1897      Cal        May1968    Brightwaters,NY

John          25Sept1899     Mass     June1978    Chelsea ,Mass

John          15July1900      NY        April1971     Rockville,M'land

John          9Aug1910        NJ        Oct1970       Pennsylvania

Laurence   2Feb1896        NY        May1972      Bronx,NY

Lewis        15March1915   NY        Aug1968      Buffalo,NY

Martin       7Feb1914        NJ         March1983   HaddonHeights,NJ

Matthew    9July1887        NJ        Nov1964       -

Michael     18Aug1898      NY       25Dec1991   Gaithersburg,M'land

Michael     22July1905      NY       Nov1974       Springfield,Mass

Peter        4Jan1903         NY       May1981      Newark,NJ

Thomas    10Dec1882       NJ       Oct1962       -

Thomas    5April1902        NY      June1972      Buffalo,NY

Thomas    19March1903    NY      Dec1974       Cenral  Islip ,NY

Thomas    20April1909       Mass  March1976    Utica,NY

Thomas    10Aug1914       NY      Oct1969        -

Vincent    31March1896    NY      14Feb1991    Flushing,NY

Vincent    6Jan1915          NY      Jan1974        -

William    28Feb1894        Mass  Aug1963        -

William    23June1916      NY      20Dec1990     -

End

-----Original Message-----

From: amethyst@inch.com <amethyst@inch.com>

To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com <CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com>

Date: 19 September 1998 19:41

Subject: [CRYAN-L] Crehans

 

>Hi everyone,

>>   I have been hesitant to submit anything to the list yet because I

>am hardly a genealogist and not very organized, but in case anyone

>out there is looking for some of my people, I figured I'd finally

>post.>   My mother's maiden name was Marilyn Crehan (b. 1938.) She is the

>daughter of Arthur Thomas Crehan (1906-89,) who was born in

>Haverhill, Massachusetts, and came here to Brooklyn, NY, with his

>mother and some of his twelve siblings in the 1910s or 1920s. We

>don't know much about Arthur's father who had died by then, other

>than that he was _probably_ from Roscommon. His wife, Margaret

>O'Donoghue (sp) was born in 1872, probably in Donegal, and died in

>1952. My mother lost contact with her father when she was a child,

> and last saw any of his relatives before I was born in the 1970s, so I'm

not>really connected to the extended Crehan family.

>>  The rest of the Crehan names and places that I know are available

>from http://www.inch.com/~amethyst/idxc.htm (which may need a few

>minor corrections in places,) or just e-mail me if you

>would like to know something. Thanks to all the people who have been

>posting information about Crehans, Cryans et al.

>>Sincerely,>Theresa Mary Nehemias

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A suggested reading that came off the Ireland-Book-Discussion mailing list is:

"Old Days, Old Ways" by Olive Sharkey, ISBN 0-8156-0218-9/SHOD.  Below is a

brief description:

An excellent resource to learn how our ancestors lived day to day. It has many

illustrations of the tools they used, even shows pictures of shoes they wore

when working in the bogs.  Chapters describe Thatched House/By the Light

of the Fire/Furniture and Gittins/Farmhouse Fare/Homecrafts/Dairy and

Laundry/The Land/Springtime on the Land/The Harvest/The Farmyard

Haven't read it myself - has anyone else?  --Leslie

 

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Hi again,

You ask about Anglicising Ireland(note I put Ireland not the Irish). The

biggest upheaval was the 1688 so called "Glorious Revolution" when William

of Orange defeated the Irish at the Battle of the Boyne and "subdued the

masses". Those who spoke only Irish were pushed Westward beyond the Shannon

where, like during "the clearances" in Scotland people had to scratch a

living as they could on the poorest land. Families who had always lived in

the west were much better off because they had the best land and knew of old

how to work it.

From this time administration as in the whole of the British Isles became

more formalised and based on the English language. The Penal Laws introduced

in the Reformation (1500s) still held, prohibiting Roman Catholics from

doing all kinds of things like holding administrative office or becoming an

MP or at one time even attending Mass.Socially , the Roman Catholics were

prohibited from owning land and as a consequence much land was confiscated

and passed over to the already well off non-Catholics. There were heavy

fines which often destroyed even some of the richer families.The alternative

was to acknowledge and take part in the established church (Protestant)

which in Ireland was called -you can guess, The Church of Ireland, or in

England , The Church of England etc.

There have been people of English origin in Ireland from at least 1100s

(called Norman plantations). Many of the large landowning families whether

Irish or English had land in both countries. Round these a system of English

speaking administration grew up,  which gradually became based on the

parishes associated with the Church of Ireland (similarly in England and

Wales). These are called the " Civil Parishes".

 

In the mid 1700s (about 1738 I think) the penal laws were relaxed somewhat

and people were allowed formally to attend Mass (though they had been for

some time)  . Some RC chapels were built - one rarely sees either in England

or Ireland an RC church building of before about 1730.Most were built after

the Catholic Emancipation Act of 1829.

Names would, as I see it, naturally become anglicised because of the system

.Spelling would depend on who wrote the name down and whether they wrote in

Irish as the phoentics are different. I think that it was an evolving

process and the many of the variants in names can be attributed to how the

individual heard the regional accent.

However , just by chance , I was reading the RC parish records for Boyle in

Roscommon, yesterday. These started in 1793 and are all in Latin !!!!!!

Each entry says something like  " I James parish priest baptise one born to

......parents' names...... who were married in the Church(or joined by the

rites of the Church) and who will be known by the family in perpetuity

as.....child's name..... (Then something like)... The parents will be

supported by .....names of godparents....who are of this parish (if they are

not of the parish then it name the parish).

The name of the priest is Dr James Tyrrell who , I would imagine to be

English speaking. I do not think, though I may be wrong, that Tyrrell is an

Irish name.

Though I was only able to look at a couple of months I came across 3

mentions of my name ALL of which were spelt CRYAN - this was very clear

.However sadly quite a lot of the ink has faded or patchy and difficult to

read, as are the format and the writing.

one was Eugene CRYAN a witness/godparent

another- 2nd March 1793  Michael CRYAN and Brigid Lanitan , a daughter

Mary/Maria in Latin, godparentsJames Donnellan

another - 24 August 1793 - Martin CRYAN and Maria/Mary Mullauny daughter

Winefred, godparents Michael McDermott and (looks like) Susanna Mc Etulliff

(any suggestions as I have never heard of this)

I feel that anyone who may have an affinity with the variants of the name

could well find something useful in our list (particularly if they

contribute as well). Though it is best not to expect too much.I for one am

only interested in my name CRYAN until I find that there is a change to

something else. I have plenty there to be getting on with. I don't intend to

be selfish but I am sure that we all have another life.

away from the list and the FHC.

Must away now, all the best , sorry to cut short, I could go on for ever, it

is so tempting, take care,Eve

 

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From: Fatarm@aol.com <Fatarm@aol.com>

To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com <CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com>

Date: 22 September 1998 06:18

Subject: [CRYAN-L] I need advice to reply to a Craun researcher

>I've recently been contacted by a researcher of the Craun surname whose

18th>c. relative (transported to Australia) used, or can be found under, the

forms>Craun, Crawn, Chrahan, Crahan, Chroughan, Croughan, Crone, and Chrawn

during>his life.  She wants to know if this/these surnames tie into the Crean

group.>Since Pat brought up the research problem with MacCroghan, and because we

all>are of one variety or another (excluding the silent folk, we're Cregans,

>MacCrohan-MacCroghans, Crains, Cryans, Crehans, Creans, Crean-Craines,

Creens,>and Crehan-Cranes), perhaps we can pool info on this subject.

>>I only know what I do about the O'Crean surname from what I've read by you

>all, MacLysaght and Matheson.  My instinct, from the research that I've

done>so far, is that somewhere in the late 18th c. something happened that

changed>the way surnames were spelled in Ireland (not just for our O'Creans).  I

don't>know enough to say what, but when I read pre-1800 sources there's more

gaelic>(first and surnames), more O's and Macs, more GH's in words, and rarely a

>"Cryan" to be found (I can't remember seeing any pre-1810 off the top of my

>head).  Was it a result of the 1798 rebellion?  A further anglicization of

>Ireland (was gaelic ever outlawed in the schools? when was

education/literacy>brought to the peasant classes and who brought it?)?  Post-1800 I observe a

>more "English" language -- I haven't come across any "Teig"s or "Cnoghers",

>for example, in the 1857 Griffith's Valuation of Co. Roscommon -- but lots

of>Patricks, Johns, Conors and Michaels.

>>I've got a book on the shelf to read about the Rebellion of 1798, but I

would>be more interested in a recommendation for something about the Irish

culture>and the changes of this period -- if I'm not just making this all up in my

>head and there actually is something there.

>>And I'd love a recommendation on what to tell Thomas Craun's descendant.

Pat,>Eve, anyone -- any suggestions?  Leslie

> 

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FS   Hello to everyone on our new list,

I was born a CRYAN not just a descendent and therefore when starting my

family research have give the CRYAN line priority. I come from a line of

John CRYANs with an occasional Daniel or Michael!

I do not know how you think the list ought to behave - it could be very

boring with folk just asking an odd question and perhaps or perhaps not

getting an answer.It could on the otherhand be a collection of anecdotes -

nothing wrong with that , in fact quite interesting but, if any of us want

to make progress with this genealogy thing we have to do more.Some of the

other lists that I used to belong to had some very interesting discussions

involving occupations ,activities, reminiscences, pastimes, names and naming

patterns, even the occasional family recipe but never wandering too far from

family history.

Perhaps we can all pool our ideas? What do you think?

Family lore has it that my ggrandfather came to work in the tobacco industry

in Liverpool in about 1856 because after the famine they were involved in a

government experiment to diversify the crops . They grew TOBACCO, can you

believe it? And when it failed they had to leave the land, hence Liverpool

and because of their knowledge of the crop, the tobacco industry.

Has anyone heard of a similar story???????????

I am a bit of a ferret and so some quite interesting items of general use

have come my way. I will gradually share them with you.

Yesterday I came across the Parliamentary Gazetteer for Ireland 1840-43.

This give contemporary accounts and descriptions of all the towns and

parishes , sizes,positions and population . Perhaps some of you are

interested particularly if you know which townland /parish your family group

came from.

I have been going through the indexes of the Irish and English registers and

collecting all the CRYANs and have already sent lists of Roberts and

Dominicks to various people. I may possibly have something for you.

I have Irish deaths 1864-1905 and Irish births 1864, 1865,1881-1903 and

England and Wales deaths1837-1881 and births 1837-1857,1901-4 and1911-13

,and marriages 1882-98but there is still much to do

The CRYAN heartland seems to be the area around roughly Loch Gara covering

the borders of all three counties of Sligo, Roscommon and Mayo.Many of the

parishes are in 2 or more counties and certainly the registration districts

of this border area cover areas in more than one county. So a Boyle

registration for example, although the town of Boyle is in Co Roscommon ,

could be given to someone from the southern part of Co Sligo.( It is all

meant to confuse!!!!!!)

Do have a look at the Leitrim and Roscommon web site at

http://www.thecore.com/let_ros/

They are gradually transcribing the Griffiths Valuations parish by parish

and similarly the 1901 census and there is a search facility.

Take care everyone, regards Eve

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Thank you so much. I would bet Rufus is the son. It sounds right thats

for sure. Also, Lester from Yonkers is my grandfather! My grandmother

was also an Isabelle but died much younger, in the late 30's. Makes me

wonder though since the names are so similar and so many Lesters!

Thank you and I will definitley follow up and let you wonderful people

know how it turns out!Blessings,Kathleen

 

Reply-To: "Family History" < >

From: "Family History" < >

To: <kmgrone@hotmail.com>

Subject: Fw: [CRYAN-L] Bruno Creen

Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 08:57:07 +0100

I am sorry that I sent this to the wrong person at first. I hope that

thisis now correct.Rather than retype it all I have forwarded a copy.Hence

the>signs. Best wishes Eve

 

>In the USA Social Security Death Index I have found the following,

perhaps>they fit

>Rufus CREEN    b15Dec1908   d Jan1985 ss issued inNY, last known

address

>Riverhead,NY.

>Isabelle O'DONNELL b25Nov1907 dFeb 1986 ss issued NY,

>.................Brooklyn NY

>Lester O'DONNELL b3July1902 dMay1982

ss.........NY,..................New

>Rochell,NY

>Lester O'DONNELL b23Oct1905 dFeb 1973  ss

>.....NY,.................Buffalo,NY

>Lester O'DONNELL b30Aug1906

d2March1992,ss...NY,.................Yonkers

>>There was no Bruno CREEN or Charlotte O'DONNELLor Jessica or Joseph

CREEN

>Good luck with it all -regards Eve

> 

>-----Original Message-----

>From: Iliktotick@aol.com <Iliktotick@aol.com>

>To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com <CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com>

>Date: 23 September 1998 00:05

>Subject: [CRYAN-L] Bruno Creen

> 

>>Kathleen writes:

>>I am looking for Bruno Creene or Creen. He is thought to have been

born>>in Berlin. Mother was German, Father Irish????

>>He lived his life in New York.  He had 2 sons Rufus and Joseph and 2

>>daughters Isabelle (born 1905) and Jessica.

>>He was married to Charlotte Kerner. She divorced him and married a

>>widower James O'Donnell whose son Lester, by wife Mary Harrigan,

married

>>Isabelle.

>>>>Bruno is thought to have died in the 1940's. I have also heard he died

>>in the 1960's. He may have been born around 1880->>

>>I looked in the Social Security Death Index and could find no one by

the>name>>of Bruno Creen, although there were a number of Creen's listed.  There

were>>absolutely no Creene names (with an e) at all in the index.  Many

people>who>>died in the 40's didn't have a social security number.  Perhaps you

could>try>>to request a death certificate from New York State?  Pennsylvania will

doa>10>>year search (for a fee) and New York may also provide this service.

>>>>Luck in your search,>>Joanne

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Hi Greg,

Thank you for your reply.Of course I was not giving a history lesson just

trying to link some points that Leslie had raised and which linked in with

what I had ,by chance found yesterday. There is far too much between England

and Ireland for one to give more than a view of history. I too am second

generation but living in England and Liverpool, Ireland was and is always

part of our lives. I am sorry if this sounds either preachy or formal - it

is not meant to be. I am just trying to put things in as short a way as

possible.I do not know whether you know about the Family History Centres (FHCs)run by

The Church of Jesus Christ and the Latter Day Saints (LDS). These are open

to the public and contain loads of films and fiches of census data , births

,marriage and death register indexes, the IGI - International Genealogical

Index, parish registers etc etc etc which are available for consultaion.

There is a list of films of Irish data available to read through the FHCs(if

you do not know them, they are well worth a visit) on the website

http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Parthenon/5327/index.html It is worth making

a copy of it - the list of films, I mean.The site is called Mother Hubbard's

Cupboard and has lists of many genealogical resources.

The number of the Boyle film is quoted on the above list and it can be

borrowed to read but not take home, through the FHC near you - end of advert

!! I must admit that I have spent an awful lot of time in my local FHC.

I am awaiting a film of a neighbouring parish ,just over the border from

Boyle in Co Sligo.Someone else had borrowed the Boyle film. I may be able to

look at it again next time I visit.

I do not know how much research you have done about your family, but before

you look at the parish registers it is worth consulting the Griffiths

Valuation to establish which parish they belong to - this is also on film at

the FHC and there is also a CD and better still consult the Leitrim and

Roscommon list on http://www.thecore.com/let_ros/ where there is also an

explanation of the Griffiths Valuation and one can search for all the

various names one wishes to look up.

Coming from Boyle can imply different things. The Boyle registration

district covers parts of both counties Sligo and Roscommon: Boyle parish is

the civil administration district and the Church of Ireland parish, Boyle RC

parish is of the Catholic parish which is different in area to the civil

parish,and then there is Boyle town. This is all to confuse the English !!

But it is best to be clear what one is talking about or looking at.

By the way I have extracted all the CRYAN deaths 1864-1904fron the Irish

indexes, if you would like a look-up and can give a name and registration

district.(see previous posting).Happy hunting, take care , Eve

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From: Greg Latham <glatham@email.msn.com>

To: Family History < >

Date: 24 September 1998 22:51

Subject: Re: [CRYAN-L] I need advice to reply to a Craun researcher

 

>Eve>

>Thanks for your brief Irish History Lesson.Even though I am second

>generation Irish I still learn't a bit!!!

>>Anyway let me introduce myself as I haven't written as yet.I too am

>researching Cryan from Boyle.Don't know if you know of this one - Brigid

>Cryan m.Cormac Carroll in 1848.It's the same one as Joan Ogg is

>researching.Their daughter(Bridget Carroll) married my G Grandfather John

>Tivnan.>>Thats all I have I'm afraid but if you do come across any Tivnans from

Boyle>in your search please let me know.Incidentally how could I get a copy of

the>Boyle parish records that you mentioned?

>>Kind regards>>Greg Latham

>Nottingham England

>Researching:LATHAM LANE WILLIAMS MOORE GUEST SIDWELL OVERS HARTLEY(WARKS)

>                     DRAYCOTT CURLEY BRAILSFORD WARD WRAGG(NOTTS & DERBYS)

>-----Original Message-----

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>To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com <CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com>

>Date: 24 September 1998 10:27

>Subject: Re: [CRYAN-L] I need advice to reply to a Craun researcher

>> 

>>Hi again,

>>You ask about Anglicising Ireland(note I put Ireland not the Irish). The

>>biggest upheaval was the 1688 so called "Glorious Revolution" when William

>>of Orange defeated the Irish at the Battle of the Boyne and "subdued the

>>masses". Those who spoke only Irish were pushed Westward beyond the

Shannon>>where, like during "the clearances" in Scotland people had to scratch a

>>living as they could on the poorest land. Families who had always lived in

>>the west were much better off because they had the best land and knew of

>old>>how to work it.>>From this time administration as in the whole of the British Isles became

>>more formalised and based on the English language. The Penal Laws

>introduced>>in the Reformation (1500s) still held, prohibiting Roman Catholics from

>>doing all kinds of things like holding administrative office or becoming

an>>MP or at one time even attending Mass.Socially , the Roman Catholics were

>>prohibited from owning land and as a consequence much land was confiscated

>>and passed over to the already well off non-Catholics. There were heavy

>>fines which often destroyed even some of the richer families.The

>alternative>>was to acknowledge and take part in the established church (Protestant)

>>which in Ireland was called -you can guess, The Church of Ireland, or in

>>England , The Church of England etc.

>>>>There have been people of English origin in Ireland from at least 1100s

>>(called Norman plantations). Many of the large landowning families whether

>>Irish or English had land in both countries. Round these a system of

>English>>speaking administration grew up,  which gradually became based on the

>>parishes associated with the Church of Ireland (similarly in England and

>>Wales). These are called the " Civil Parishes".>>

>>In the mid 1700s (about 1738 I think) the penal laws were relaxed somewhat

>>and people were allowed formally to attend Mass (though they had been for

>>some time)  . Some RC chapels were built - one rarely sees either in

>England>>or Ireland an RC church building of before about 1730.Most were built

after>>the Catholic Emancipation Act of 1829.

>>>>Names would, as I see it, naturally become anglicised because of the

system>>.Spelling would depend on who wrote the name down and whether they wrote

in>>Irish as the phoentics are different. I think that it was an evolving

>>process and the many of the variants in names can be attributed to how the

>>individual heard the regional accent.

>>However , just by chance , I was reading the RC parish records for Boyle

in>>Roscommon, yesterday. These started in 1793 and are all in Latin !!!!!!

>>Each entry says something like  " I James parish priest baptise one born

to>>......parents' names...... who were married in the Church(or joined by the

>>rites of the Church) and who will be known by the family in perpetuity

>>as.....child's name..... (Then something like)... The parents will be

>>supported by .....names of godparents....who are of this parish (if they

>are>>not of the parish then it name the parish).

>>The name of the priest is Dr James Tyrrell who , I would imagine to be

>>English speaking. I do not think, though I may be wrong, that Tyrrell is

an>>Irish name.>>Though I was only able to look at a couple of months I came across 3

>>mentions of my name ALL of which were spelt CRYAN - this was very clear

>>.However sadly quite a lot of the ink has faded or patchy and difficult to

>>read, as are the format and the writing.>>one was Eugene CRYAN a witness/godparent

>>another- 2nd March 1793  Michael CRYAN and Brigid Lanitan , a daughter

>>Mary/Maria in Latin, godparentsJames Donnellan

>>another - 24 August 1793 - Martin CRYAN and Maria/Mary Mullauny daughter

>>Winefred, godparents Michael McDermott and (looks like) Susanna Mc

Etulliff>>(any suggestions as I have never heard of this)

>>>>I feel that anyone who may have an affinity with the variants of the name

>>could well find something useful in our list (particularly if they

>>contribute as well). Though it is best not to expect too much.I for one am

>>only interested in my name CRYAN until I find that there is a change to

>>something else. I have plenty there to be getting on with. I don't intend

>to>>be selfish but I am sure that we all have another life.

>>away from the list and the FHC.>>Must away now, all the best , sorry to cut short, I could go on for ever,

>it>>is so tempting, take care,Eve>>

>>>> 

>>-----Original Message-----

>>From: Fatarm@aol.com <Fatarm@aol.com>

>>To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com <CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com>

>>Date: 22 September 1998 06:18

>>Subject: [CRYAN-L] I need advice to reply to a Craun researcher

>>>> 

>>>I've recently been contacted by a researcher of the Craun surname whose

>>18th>>>c. relative (transported to Australia) used, or can be found under, the

>>forms>>>Craun, Crawn, Chrahan, Crahan, Chroughan, Croughan, Crone, and Chrawn

>>during>>>his life.  She wants to know if this/these surnames tie into the Crean

>>group.>>>Since Pat brought up the research problem with MacCroghan, and because we

>>all>>>are of one variety or another (excluding the silent folk, we're Cregans,

>>>MacCrohan-MacCroghans, Crains, Cryans, Crehans, Creans, Crean-Craines,

>>Creens,>>>and Crehan-Cranes), perhaps we can pool info on this subject.

>>>>>>I only know what I do about the O'Crean surname from what I've read by

you>>>all, MacLysaght and Matheson.  My instinct, from the research that I've

>>done>>>so far, is that somewhere in the late 18th c. something happened that

>>changed>>>the way surnames were spelled in Ireland (not just for our O'Creans).  I

>>don't>>>know enough to say what, but when I read pre-1800 sources there's more

>>gaelic>>>(first and surnames), more O's and Macs, more GH's in words, and rarely a

>>>"Cryan" to be found (I can't remember seeing any pre-1810 off the top of

>my>>>head).  Was it a result of the 1798 rebellion?  A further anglicization

of>>>Ireland (was gaelic ever outlawed in the schools? when was

>>education/literacy>>>brought to the peasant classes and who brought it?)?  Post-1800 I observe

>a>>>more "English" language -- I haven't come across any "Teig"s or

>"Cnoghers",>>>for example, in the 1857 Griffith's Valuation of Co. Roscommon -- but

lots>>of>>>Patricks, Johns, Conors and Michaels.

>>>>>>I've got a book on the shelf to read about the Rebellion of 1798, but I

>>would>>>be more interested in a recommendation for something about the Irish

>>culture>>>and the changes of this period -- if I'm not just making this all up in

my>>>head and there actually is something there.

>>>>>>And I'd love a recommendation on what to tell Thomas Craun's descendant.

>>Pat,>>Eve, anyone -- any suggestions?  Leslie

>>>>>> 

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Hi all,I have seen mentioned on the site ,the book The Four Masters

I am not exactly clear what it is  - but I gather it is a chronicle of

Ireland written in the 1500s in Irish, I think by a monk or monks. I was

translated in the 1850s and it mentions some of the old family names.

It gives the CRYAN/CREAN name as O'Craidhen

Four Masters - volume V page 1287

1507 AD  "Donnell O'Craidhen , a pious and conscientious merchant, died,

while hearing mass in Donegal"

a footnote reads,"This family afterwards acquired considerable property in

lands,and are now (@1850) represented by Andrew Crean Lynch, Esq.of

Hollybrook, in the County of Mayo.  There is a curious monument to this

family in the monestery of Sligo, of which Mr Petrie has made a careful

drawing.Four Masters - volume V page 1572

1572 AD  "Henry O,Craidhen, a rich and affluent merchant of Lower

Connaught,died"

I am, I must say, rather sceptical about the footnote. I suspect the Crean

Lynch's gained property during the period of confiscations because they

co-operated or a Crean married into a wealthy or ambitious Lynch family. The

same surname , I have seen in the English registers. Take the footnote for

what you will.

It would be interesting to find "the monument in the monestery in Sligo".

Could that be Sligo Abbey (now a ruin I believe) or another monastery?

With this Four Masters information I thought that you would like an extract

from some internet list about names.

      "O'CREAN,CREHAN(CREGAN)

According to MacFirbis, O'Crean and O'Cregan are synonymous, Crehan being a

variant of Crean. The Irish CREAN and Crehan are O'Croidheain (spelt

O'Croidhen by the Four Masters) and CREEGAN or CREGAN is O'CROIDHEAGAIN.

These are families forming a minor sept of the Cineal Eoghan belonging to

Donegal, with a branch in the neighbouring county of Sligo. They are twice

mentioned in the Four Masters as wealthy merchants, which is somewhat

unusual in the Annals: in 1506 as of Donegal: in 1572 as of Sligo.  The

Clongowes manuscript "The State of Ireland in 1598" gives them a higher

status: the then head of the family was John O'CREAN of Ballynegare, and in

another place in the manuscript O'CREAN of Annagh is stated to have been one

of the leading families of Co.Sligo in the sixteenth century. According to

the "Annals of Loch Ce" the Bishop of Elphin in 1582 was an O'CREAN ,but he

was "removed" in 1584. Father Daniel O'CREAN (d.c.1616) of Holy Cross ,

Sligo was Provincial of the Dominican order in a period of intensive

persecution.

The form CREHAN is usual in Co Galway; in Co Mayo these are called

CREAN,GREHAN and even GRAHAM. CREEGAN alone of these variants can be said to

belong to Co Sligo. CREAN is mostly found today in south-west Munster,

families of the name in Kery and Cork are in most cases CREEN,recte

CURREEN,ie O'Corraighin. A further complication in rega??  to the name CREAN

arises from the fact that O'Corrain , normally CURRAN in English, has become

CREAN in some places.............."

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Hi Kathleen,

Well here it is as I promised - you asked for Glounthaune, Co Cork - this is

the only one of a remotely similar name - Glountaine.(If this is not it then

I am sorry that there was no entry.)

Extract from The Parliamentary Gazetteer of Ireland 1841-43

     GLANTANE, Glanton,or Glountaine a village of the parish of Kilshannig ,

barony of Duballow,

4 3/4miles SW of Mallow,Co Cork,Munster. A dispensary here is within the

Mallow poor-law union, and serves a district of 16,787acres,with a

population of 8,057; and in 1839-40,its expenditure amounted to £124 10s. A

Roman Catholic parish in the dio. of Cloyne and Ross takes its name from the

village andhas chapels here and at Kilpader. The area of the village is 28 acres.

Pop.in 1841,193. Houses 32.

I wonder if this surprises you? All the best Eve

 

-----Original Message-----

From: Kathleen A Craine <K-Craine@neiu.edu>

To: Family History < >

Date: 19 September 1998 20:09

Subject: Re: [CRYAN-L] Re CRYAN from Liverpool and back to Sligo, Mayo and

Roscommon

>Eve:>No problem.  I'm enjoying reading this stuff--I'm so glad Leslie found

>me for this group!>Kathy

> 

>On Sat, 19 Sep 1998, Family History wrote:

>>> Hello Kathleen, I will certainly look - up for you but I will not have

>> access to the information until later next week so I hope that you will

be>> patient. I hope that you do not mind if I reply to the list because

others>> may be interested to hear the kind of information available. Large

important>> places have a great deal of information Tuam has 6 pages , Boyle 4 pages

;>> other places have a paragraph - we shall see. I intend to serialise the

>> descriptions of the larger places for all to see. Until again, regards

Eve

> 

>Kathleen Craine

>Office of Financial Aid

>Northeastern Illinois University

>Chicago, IL

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I've started surfing again, and you know what that means: a shared site.  You

HAVE to check this one out, even if it means being late for work.  I'm

planning on dining out on it (it's good for at least one):

www.clpgh.org/clp/exhibit/neighborhoods/oakland/oak_n108.html

Mary Croghan Schenley [1826-1903] was quite the gal -- in 1842 at age 15 this

Pittsburgh heiress eloped with 43 year old Captain Edward W. Schenley of the

British Army.  "It was the Captain's third elopement."  I swear, those

Victorians knew how to do a proper scandal -- this is far better reading than

Mr. Starr's report, I guarantee.  I'll leave the juicy details for those of

you who actually decide to give in to curiosity and check out the site, but I

have to share this contemporary poem with you [Dan take note - I expect my

epitaph to be as good]:

His eyes had the hard glint

Of new dollars from the mint

Interestingly enough, the following comment was added to the article:  Croghan

was pronounced "Crawn".  I'm going to make sure our Crawn enquirer hears of

this.  What do you think of the comment, Pat?  How is MacCrohan pronounced?

If you're interested in the family name Croghan, don't forget to check out the

site of the town of Croghan, NY:  www.uny.com/croghan.htm, with the Croghan

Free Library & American Maple Museum (it's in the beautiful Adirondacks).

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From:Par500@aol.com Add to Address BookDate:Sat, 26 Sep 1998 11:28:27 EDTSubject:[CRYAN-L] Re:CroghanTo:CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

 

 

In a message dated 98-09-25 08:44:19 EDT, you write:

 

<< Interestingly enough, the following comment was added to the article:

Croghan

 was pronounced "Crawn" >>

 

Leslie and all,

You certainly know how to whet the appetite for a website and use have

great

research skills.   I guess your reference to the scandal as a three

alarm one

and worth being late to work for hit the heart of this early morning

netsurfer.

 

Just imagine the fury of Mr. Croghan who had his own forbidden

courtship with

the heir to the O'Hara fortune viewing watching helplessly as Mr.

Schenley

crossed the Atlantic with his 15 year old daughter whose proclivities

had

probably led to the father secreting her at the remote boarding school.

A

little projection on Mr. Croghan's part??

 

So Mr. Croghan had a stroke.  Reminiscent of the stories of my

grandmother of

McCroghan ancestry having a stroke (and dying) over her eldest

daughter's

leaving home because of her love for a Protestant veterinarian, whose

family

controlled his trust and also objected to the match.  Only more than

twenty

years later, well after her mother's death from the stroke, did the

couple

marry (too late to have children) and within 10 years the daughter died

from

leukemia. Too tragic !

 

I'm glad that Mary Croghan Schenley lived happily ever after, whether in

Pittsburgh or England with her many children.  (Of course, I also am

curious

about the stories related to Mr. Schenley's three previous elopements!)

 

On subject of the pronunciation of Croghan as "Crawn," I find it

similar to

the sound of names on this list. In my family, my father said his

grandmother's name was McCreahan.  Because he was so careful about

spelling

and words in general, I was surprised when the family spelled it

MacCrohan.

I'm sure that he was spelling it as he heard it growing up.  It does

have that

extra syllable in it.   I only wish I had a tape of how my Kerry

relatives

pronounced it - I can't recall the sound. 

 

Any idea how Croghans today pronounce this name?

Regards,

Pat

 

From:Fatarm@aol.com Add to Address BookDate:Sun, 27 Sep 1998 01:11:06 EDTSubject:[CRYAN-L] Croghan and Searches for Missing FriendsTo:CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

 

 

I've got a ton to post from this week's trip to the library, but first

a note

on the Croghans and what you can find on-line: (in addition to Mary

Croghan

Schenley's little scandal)

 

www.thepoint.net/~alan/bishop/Croghan_WillJohnCroghan.html

Will of John Croghan (1790-1849) of Co. Jefferson, KY, distributes

property

such as the well-known (at least it is to me, I've been there) Mammoth

Cave.

I believe this gentleman is connected to the famous American Croghan

soldiers,

William and George.  Check them out at:

www.swlink.net/~lifey/gen2html/d0000/g0000058.html

[somebody please tell me how to make hyperlinks on aol!]

_________________

For the New Worlders:

"The Search for Missing Friends: Irish Immigrant Advertisements Placed

in the

Boston Pilot" vol. 1, 1831-1850: Harris & Jacobs, eds.  New England

Historic

Genealogical Society, Boston, 1989.  Lists just what it says in six

volumes

(sorry, only got through one today):

1. Patrick Crahan of Ballinacurty, Carromore parish, Galway sought by

John

Comber

2. Denis or Judy Crahin of Kllorne, Galway sought by their cousin Mary

Kelly

3. Connor Crane of Carriggarinu parish, Sligo sought by Pilot Office

4. James P. Crane seeking Mary & Ellen Herlihy of Bandon, Cork,

arriving in

Quebec

5. Mary Crane or Tahaney of Sooey parish, Glan townland, Sligo sought by

brother Michael Crean [sic] of Poplar Plains, Fleming Co., KY

6. Edward Larkin of Tarman parish, Roscommon sought by Mary Larkin c/o

Captail

Crean of S. Boston

7. Daniel Crean or Curn, of Co. Kerry near Tralee, em. to Quebec w/wife

and

family Bridget Dongan Crean/Curn sought by Michael Dongan of

Providence, RI

8. Michael Halloran of Loughrea parish, Galway sought by brother Patrick

Halloran c/o James Crean of S. Boston

9. Andrew Crogan or Cregan of Kilcock, Kildare (publ both spellings but

under

two different issue dates).

10. Anne Crehen of Co. Clare arrived in Quebec sought by sister Bridget

Crehen

11. Catherine McDonough and Dominick, her cousin, from near town of

Boyle,

Roscommon; last heard from in Montreal; sought by her husband, Martin

Cryan

 

I can provide a fuller entry if anyone's interested in the above, incl.

dates

(1831-1850).  Just let me know.  More later, Leslie

 

 

 

From:Crogmos@aol.com Add to Address BookDate:Sun, 27 Sep 1998 17:10:34 EDTSubject:[CRYAN-L] Re CroghanTo:CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

 

 

A message from an English Croghan, we always pronounced our name as

"Crowan"

but folks often referred to us as Crogan.

 I visited Croghan in NY State some years ago during a vacation in the

Adirondacks and found the staff in the library very helpful.They

photocopied

info about the name of the town- named after Gen. George Croghan, who

signed

the treaty with Pontiac in the Indian Wars. Most of the original

inhabitants

came from Alsace, France when the town was a lumbering settlement.

 I also came across another reference to the General in his army days ,

when

he was seen as a "danger " by the mothers of eligible young women when

his

troops were based in any town! quite a reputation.

 

 

 

From:Fatarm@aol.com Add to Address BookDate:Mon, 28 Sep 1998 01:23:07 EDTSubject:[CRYAN-L] McCrohans of Co. KerryTo:CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

 

 

If I go into heart failure while writing this message, I know the yanks

on

this list will understand - I live in Wrigleyville, and you can't

believe what

a zoo it has been here this evening.  What does baseball have to do

with the

Cryans?  Well, give me time and I'm sure I can dig something out for

you!

Those Croghans have been very helpful of late ... maybe a McGwire or

Sosa

ancestor dated one once ...

 

But back on topic, I want to give a little background to the rest of

you on

what I am forwarding here to Pat re: the MacCroghans/McCrohans.  I

offered to

look up Pat's Co. Kerry relatives in Griffith's Valuation, and found

several

in Caher civil parish (Caherciveen is the R.C. parish name).  I also

discovered some potentially interesting information regarding the

"immediate

lessors" listed in the Valuation.  Pat's Ggrandmom Ellen grew up on

Beginish

Island, and it wasn't very big - 200 some acres - so I copied down all

of the

neigbors, too.  But you've got to understand a little about what

Griffith's

offers to understand how valuable the information can be, and what it's

limitations are.

 

Griffith was a land surveyor asked to put a value to all rateable (i.e.,

taxable) property in Ireland c. 1847-1860s.  This was all done to raise

money

by/for the poor law unions.  His teams literally assessed all of

Ireland,

marking down the values of houses, gardens, offices and land to a

standard

value.  It lists occupiers and immediate lessors, what was rateable

(i.e., a

house or just plain land), and sometimes other interesting stuff, such

as the

workhouse noted below or a smithy's I noted some time ago for Roscommon.

Great, right?  But it doesn't actually tell you who owned the land, as

the

Beginish Island example below displays, or who actually was farming it.

 A man

with 50 acres could easily be leasing a portion of it out to several

sub-

tenant farmers.  So take it with a grain of salt.  It was also

appeal-able:

I've been looking at copies of the original reports submitted, not

something

that has been appealed and corrected.

 

But I think Pat's research and this little piece of it are a great

example of

what can be done by a descendant researching the past.  Depending on

how often

Pat can avoid that whole day-job thing, the possibilities of

researching the

McCrohans or their community are endless ...   :)   How 'bout putting

together

a treatise for us, Pat, on all the potential relationships these folks

had?!

 

In the absence of a complete census for the mid-19th c. Griffith's is

useful,

but it hardly replaces a census return, which would list all persons

living in

a house.  I'm listing the complete information for Caher civil parish,

Co.

Kerry, below - unions, baronies, map id# -- the whole bit for any

McCrohan

likelies (note the McCLoghan).

_________________

Mac/Mc-Croghan/Crohans of Caher Civil Parish, Co. Kerry

from Griffith's General Valuation and Rateable Property...

[Co. Kerry report dated 20-May-1852; hearing for Appeals to be held on

17-July-1852]

 

County   Union     Barony   Parish     Townland              Map#     Occupier                Lessor    Description &

Area

(A.R.P.)  Value (P.s.d.)

 

1. Kerry  Cahersiveen & Killarney     Iveragh  Caher      Cahersiveen, town of

Cahersiveen          64            Guardians of Cahersiveen Union      McCrohan, Daniel                Auxiliary

workhouse & garden: 0.0.10               4.0.0

 

2. Kerry  Cahersiveen & Killarney     Iveragh  Caher      Cahersiveen, town of

Cahersiveen, High Street    8              McCroghan, Catherine        Denny, Rev. Barry               house

&

small garden: -      0.10.0

 

3. Kerry  Cahersiveen & Killarney     Iveragh  Caher      Garranebane          1              McCrohan,

Ellen       O'Connell, Maurice              house: -  0.6.0

 

4. Kerry  Cahersiveen & Killarney     Iveragh  Caher      Inchiclogh             12a          McCrohan,

Jeremiah Primrose, John      house & land: 6.0.29            1.0.0

 

5. Kerry  Cahersiveen & Killarney     Iveragh  Caher      Inchiclogh             12b          Golvan

[sp?],

Ellen       McCrohan, Jeremiah[he is the imm.lessor here]              house: -  0.8.0

 

6. Kerry  Cahersiveen & Killarney     Iveragh  Caher      Beginish

Island     1              McClohan[sic], Owen         Fitzgerald, Stephen              land: part of 100.1.31,

shared with John Connell, Denis Casey, Timothy Connell, Mortimer

Connell, and

Michael Connell   2.2.0

 

7. Kerry  Cahersiveen & Killarney     Iveragh  Caher      Beginish

Island     3a            McCrohan,

Owen      Fitzgerald, Stephen              house, office & land: part of 23.3.22, shared

with

Mortimer Connell, Timothy Connell, and Michael Connell           6.10.0

 

8. Kerry  Cahersiveen & Killarney     Iveragh  Caher      Letter      3              McCrohan, Denis

(Big)       O'Connell, Maurice              land: 15.2.12          4.0.0

 

9. Kerry  Cahersiveen & Killarney     Iveragh  Caher      Letter      5a            McCrohan, Denis

(little)      O'Connell, Maurice              house, office & land: 49.0.13; (5b=Denis

Murphy)                11.0.0

 

10. Kerry                Cahersiveen & Killarney     Iveragh  Caher      Letter      14c          McCrohan,

Denis

 


(Big)    O'Connell, Maurice  house, office & garden: 0.2.23       1.5.0

 

11. Kerry        Cahersiveen & Killarney     Iveragh           Caher Reenard        5a        McCrohan,

Timothy          O'Connell, Maurice  house, office & land: 65.1.17         23.10.0

 

12. Kerry        Cahersiveen & Killarney     Iveragh           Caher Reenard        8          McCrohan,

Daniel

(Tim)   O'Connell, Maurice  house & land: part of 34.2.33 (shared with

Daniel

McCrohan (Denis))  5.8.0

 

13. Kerry        Cahersiveen & Killarney     Iveragh           Caher Reenard        8          McCrohan,

Daniel

(Denis)           O'Connell, Maurice  land: part of 34.2.33 (shared with Daniel

McCrohan

(Tim))  3.6.0

 

14. Kerry        Cahersiveen & Killarney     Iveragh           Caher Reenard        9          McCrohan,

Daniel

(Denis)           O'Connell, Maurice  house, office & land: 32.1.29         8.5.0

 

Notes: 

Beginish Island: total "lots" [my choice of word, not Griffiths]described: 4[with lots of a, b, c type subdivisions]; total area of island= 217.1.32a.r.p.; Under "lot" 2c, Stephen Fitzgerald, elsewhere on the island

alwayslisted as the Immediate Lessor, is listed as the occupier (of anoffice) andhis immediate lessor is Nathaniel C. Bland.  Mr. Bland is listed as thesoleimmediate lessor of Lamb Island, Church Island and Foughel Island.  Ithinkthis is a pretty good indicator that he probably was 'the man' ofBeginishIsland, too.  Nathaniel Bland and Maurice O'Connell are the two primaryimmediate lessors listed for Letter.

     I think this [the Beginish Island listing] is an excellent exampleof thetiered lessors/tenants found in Ireland in this period.  Griffith'sValuationmade no attempt to find the actual OWNER of the land, just theoccupiers and"immediate" lessors -- occupiers often rented out their lands, andimmediatelessors often were in fact renters or land agents.  I think theMcCrohans onBeginish dealt more immediately (not meaning to overuse the word) withStephenFitzgerald, but in actuality were paying Mr. Bland.  Or, I could be

wrong :).Just a thought.     Also on Beginish Island: you said there were presently two familiesliving there?  There were 6 houses with possible additional buildingspresentin 1852.  Send me your snail mail address, and I'll make a copy of mypage ofnotes (a mess, but it has a few more details that are awkward to fit in

here -if the above wasn't awkward enough) and send to you (it includes all theBeginish-ers, which you may be interested in someday, if not now).     Interestingly enough, unlike Co. Roscommon which was typed up onthe copyI'd been reading, Co. Kerry is still in a handwritten form.

-Leslie

From:Fatarm@aol.com Add to Address BookDate:Mon, 28 Sep 1998 02:17:59 EDTSubject:[CRYAN-L] Croghans for Patricia M., again from Griffiths (Co. Roscommon)To:CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

 

For Patricia, who is researching Croghans in Co. Roscommon, I brieflyscannedyour tree, and although I don't have another researcher to link you upwithjust yet, I can provide you the following list of Hughs, Michaels,James andPatricks (please note especially the Hugh from Carrowgarve townland). I'm

hoping you can make a positive ID from what you know of one of them,and let

me know about it.  I pulled more Croghans off Griffiths on Sat., buthaven'tyet put them into my dbase to share, so let me know if none of theseworks -we'll double check the others (although they wouldn't be from

Carrowgarve).  -Leslie (they're in the same format as Pat R's McCroghans of Kerry:

County--Union--Barony--Parish--Townland--MapID--Occupier--Immediate

Lessor--Desc. & Area--Value)

_____________

1. Roscommon         Castlerea       Castlereagh  Kilkeevin       Arm     32e     Croghan,

Hugh  Simpson,

Anne  house: -          0.10.0

2. Roscommon         Strokestown  ?          Ogulla Carrowgarve 1b        Croghan, Hugh        Nugent,

Anthony

F.   house, office & land: (part of) 81.3.34            59.15.0

3. Roscommon         Roscommon Ballintober, South    Kilbride          Grange           7          Croghan,

Hugh  Farrell, Reps. Daniel           land: 141.3.11           108.0.0

4. Roscommon         Boyle  Boyle  Kilronan         Aghafin          19a     Croghan, James       O'Conor,

Arthur house & land (part bog): 36.0.10   2.15.0

5. Roscommon         Roscommon Ballintober,

South Roscommon Ballypheasan           40        Croghan,

James Goodman, Samuel  House & small garden: -     1.5.0

6. Roscommon         Strokestown  ?          Ogulla Carrowgarve 1a        Croghan,

Michael          Nugent,

Anthony F.    house, office & land: (part of) 81.3.34      20.5.0

7. Roscommon         Strokestown  ?          Ogulla Carrowgarve 4b        Croghan,

Michael          Nugent,

Anthony F.    house, office & land: (part of) 136.2.26    82.10.0

8. Roscommon         Roscommon Roscommon Cloonfinlough           Clooncah      16L     Croghan,

Michael          Burke, Edmund (in chancery)        house, office, land: (part of)

151.1.15         6.5.0

9. Roscommon         Roscommon Ballintober, South    Kilbride          Derrane         7b        Croghan,

Michael          Sands, William         house & garden (no val.): 0.0.15   0.10.0

10. Roscommon       Roscommon Ballintober,

South Kilbride          Roxborough  1b        Croghan,

Michael          Morgan, Michael      Garden: 0.1.30          0.10.0

11. Roscommon       Roscommon Ballintober,

South Kilteevan       Tonlegee       8A-G   Croghan,

Michael & Patrick     Irwin, Daniel land: 4.2.30   1.15.0 & 1.15.0

12. Roscommon       Roscommon Ballintober,

South Kilgefin          Fariymount    19a     Croghan,

Patrick            Daly, Augusta           land (orchard): 1.1.20          2.0.0

13. Roscommon       Strokestown  Ballintober, N.           Kilglass          Killastalliff      3 &

4    Croghan, Patrick Balfe, Nicholas         land: 2.1.35 & 11.0.10         6.0.0

14. Roscommon       Strokestown  Ballintober,

N.  Kilglass    Killastalliff      5a        Croghan,

Patrick            Balfe, Nicholas         house, office & land: 17.1.30         8.15.0

15. Roscommon       Boyle  Roscommon Shankill         Kilnamryall    11a     Croghan,

Patrick            Coote,

Sir Charles H., Bt.    house & land: 9.0.26           4.0.0

16. Roscommon       Boyle  Roscommon Shankill         Kilnamryall    9          Croghan,

Patrick            Coote,

Sir Charles H., Bt.    land: 7.3.33 (part of)            0.15.0

17. Roscommon       Boyle  Frenchpark   Kilmacumsy  Lismacool      13        Croghan,

Patrick            Coote,

Sir. Charles H. Coote, Bt.   land: 1.0.0      0.10.0

18. Roscommon       Roscommon Ballintober,

South Kilteevan       Tonlegee       8E-b    Croghan,

Patrick            Irwin, Daniel house: -          0.15.0

 

 

From:Fatarm@aol.com Add to Address BookDate:Mon, 28 Sep 1998 02:32:36 EDTSubject:[CRYAN-L] All forms of surnameTo:CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

I took a brief glimpse at the Co. Mayo Griffith's and found thefollowingsurnames:  Crane, Crean, Creane, Croghan, Cronan, Croughan, Cryan.  Icanprovide first names if desired.  But what I really want to know is, doesanyone have a specific desire for a Co. Mayo look-up?  I'm planning onlooking

at John & Owen Cryan of Castlebar, Mayo anyways, for myself, so it's notrouble.  Any other counties/parishes, etc. desired?  Let me know.I'm also planning on finishing a review of the Boston Pilot

advertisements(I'm glad you liked them, Pat).  Maybe I'll be a little more thoroughin mytranscription - did anyone else catch that last Cryan entry, husbandlookingfor wife and her cousin?  Move on over Mary Croghan Schenley, I smell aCryanscandal brewing....

Lastly (for tonight), a few notes from the Irish Manscripts Commissioncollection: (ask for bibliographical reference details if any of theseare ofparticular interest)Father CREAN, prior of Irish Augustinians in Rome and agent fornon-Tribes incontroversy regarding patronage of college (1795-6).

1821.  Rev. Father CRANE, Prior.  A memo of January "to pay Mr. Sheehana loss

he had by some of Roche's notes."Note in Intro to #12: [from Dr. Berry's papers] "Much genealogical

informationconcerning these, as well as other less prominent Co. Galway families[specifically notes CROGHAN as one such], can also be obtained from thematrimonial documents in the collection."

Serjt. [sic] William CRANE (one of a group) paid 5 pounds for capturing

threeRC priests, Father Anthony Kennedy included.  1656

 

From:Fatarm@aol.com Add to Address BookDate:Mon, 28 Sep 1998 09:20:07 EDTSubject:[CRYAN-L] MacLysaght's "More Irish Families" c. 1982To:CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

I've come across a third book by MacLysaght, titled "More IrishFamilies",published after his death, I believe.  I thought the following blurbson somesurnames similar to the Creans (by sound, by Gaelic, or by name-changesourancestors made in spellings) might be of interest.  I'm sending the

MacCrohan,Crehan, Creighton one separately (it's long).  These are directtranscriptions

from the book:

O'Cowan/MacCoan:  Cowan is an alternative form of two surnames dealtwith inIrish Families [his earlier book] - see Coyne (p. 98) and MacKeown (p.200).Where it occurs in Connacht records it is a substitute for the formerbut nownearly all families of this Hy Fiachrach sept are called Coyne or Coen. In

modern times Cowan is (apart, of course, from the metropolitan area ofDublin)almost confined to Ulster.  In that province -- at any rate in the Orielcountry --it is a modernized from of MacCone, a name which was very

numerousin Co. Armagh in the 17th c. as evidenced by the Harth Money Rolls andalso by

the exhaustive analysis of Co. Armagh surnames publ. by George Patersonand byMichael Clancy in Seanchas Ardmhacha. .... [p. 65-66]Creedon, Creed:  Creedon, a west Cork name, is now called O Criodain[sorryfor lack of gaelic accents] in Irish (e.g. Tomas Criadain, the 19th c.GaelicIrish scribe) but formerly and properly it was Mac Criodain.  Itappears inthe late 16th c. Fiants dealing with Co.s Cork and Tipperary asMacCredon &MacCridan, in 1564 in the person of Donagh MacCrydon of Swynome, Co.

Tipperary, harper... Creedon has been abbreviated to Creed to aconsiderableextent - even as early as 1659 when Francis Creed was a titulado in theparishof Kilquan, Co. Limerick.  About that time the name occurs as MacCreedin theIrish army lists preserved in the Ormond Manuscript ....[p. 67]

Cronin & Croneen [p. 69]: [rather than repeat the long blurb, just takemyword for it that there's definitely no connection there](Mac) Crowne:  The name Crowne, associated with Manorhamilton andadjacent

areas, is a form of Croghan (q.v.), a name chiefly found in Co.Roscommon,alias Croan.  Croghan is listed in the "Census" of 1659 as a principalIrishname in the barony of Ballintubber, Co. Roscommon.  In the Fiants wefindMacCrowane in Co. Roscommon; Brian Keogh macBrien MacCroughen occurs ina

Fiant on 1591 with a number of O'Beirnes in Mayo, near Co. Roscommon;andagain in 1601 there is Croghan "alias O'Beirne," which, taken inconjunctionwith their location, suggests that the MacCroghans or Crownes were abranch ofthe O'Beirne sept.  Woulfe gives MacConchruachain [sorry for lack ofIrish

accents] as the Gaelic-Irish form which is corroborated by a Fiantentry of1582 in which MacEncroghan appears as a Co. Roscommon name. [Interesting,no?!] [p. 70]I thought all that would be interesting to our Crown/Croghan/MacCroghanreaders ... Don't forget to read the next post on the MacCroghans for

more ...

 

From:Fatarm@aol.com Add to Address BookDate:Tue, 29 Sep 1998 12:23:53 EDTSubject:[CRYAN-L] Our list - administrativeTo:CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

We've made it to 30 researchers!  And we cover quite a bit of theEnglish-speaking world between us:  researchers have posted that they're fromIreland,England, Wales, Canada, United States, Australia and New Zealand.I know we've been covering a lot about the Croghans of late -- but don'tworry, I'm still going around trying to find others.  I've emailed 4Creanresearchers I don't think I've contacted previously, so we may have

some newCrean postings shortly.  We've had four new Croghan/Crogan/Crohans joinin thelast week, so we (hopefully) will read about their research shortly. We'vegot about equal parts (8 each) of the Cregan/Creahans and Cryans, Ithink.Only about half the Cryan group has ever posted their research to the

list.Maybe it's time for some of you early joiners to re-post your researchnowthat the crowd is more sizeable.  My O'Crean family database now hasover 800names, but I don't yet have all of your information - gotta post it forit toget in and be checked against other listings!  Don't worry about itbeingperfect -- it's more important to share information than to have it beseamless when you do so.If you think you see someone who might be interested in listening in tothediscussion or posting their research, please don't hesitate to have them

subscribe through rootsweb or by emailing me.Just so you know, I'm off on "holiday"/vacation for two weeks at theend ofthis week.  I'll still be on-line, but won't have much to post.  It'dbe agreat time to post your research (hint, hint  :)   -Leslie

 

From:"Michael Tobin" <tobinmi@hotmail.com> Add to Address BookDate:Tue, 29 Sep 1998 10:34:49 PDTSubject:[CRYAN-L] O Craian/Crean of Sligo townTo:CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Hello folks,The monument to which Eve referred to in a recent post, is indeed Sligo Abbey. I have a photocopy of a booklet published by the IrishGovernment on the Dominican Friary of Sligo, which according to the booklet is "generally (but incorrectly)  known as Sligo Abbey". If this booklet is still available for sale, it should be available from the Government Publications Sale Office, Molesworth Street, Dublin 2. It may be possible to contact them via the Irish Government Web site at www.irlgov.ie.The booklet describes the history of the Friary from the 13th century onwards. "It was founded in 1252 or 1253 by Maurice FitzGerald, 2nd baron of Offaly, grandson of the first Maurice FitzGerald, who landedin Ireland with Raymond le Gros in 1169, and grandfather of the 1st Earlof Kildare."It goes on to state that Maurice may be regarded as the founder ofSligo town. It states that the Friary was occupied most of the time by the

Friars until 1760. In the intervening period, it had a turbulant history, being ransacked and commandeered on a few occasions. In 1760, the community moved elsewhere.It has the following reference to Crean:

"There is an interesting collection of 16th and 17th century monuments in the church. The earliest dated monument is the O'Craian or Creantomb of 1506 in a recess in the north wall of the nave, jst west of the rood-screen. It has the remains of a fine traceried canopy, below which is the tomb chest, similar to the high altar in general appearance but with figures in relief on the arcaded panels of the front. (The Crucifixion in the centre, with the Virgin Mary and St. John on either side; at the left-hand end is a friar, probaly St. Dominic, next towhom is a figure robed and crowned, carrying a sword, with a small circle on the breast, possibly the wheel of St Catherine, the third figure onthis side being a figure (? female) in a long gown secured by a belt,

carrying a staff with a pear-shaped end, possibly a pilgrim; at the far right is an archbishop holding a processional cross, with his hand raised in benediction, next to whom is St. Peter with the keys, the third position being occupied by St. Michael the Archangel, who can be recognised by his wings, his cross-bearing shield and his uplifted sword). The Latin inscription, along the upper margin of the top slabof

the tomb chest, is incomplete, but the date (1506) and the name Cormac O'Craian can be read: his wife's name is less certain, but it may be Johanna Nic Aengusa (or Ennis)."

"There are also several early 17th century armorial stones, forming portions of monuments now destroyed. The earliest of these, dated 1616, is built into the recess of the O'Craian tomb and bears the arms of the same family (argent, a wolf rampant sable, between these hearts gules) impaled with those of French (ermine, a chevron sable). The initials A.C. and E.F seem to be those of Andrew Crean and his wife. This may be the same Andrew Crean of Annagh to whom Elinor, Countess of Desmond, O'Connor Sligo's widow, left £100 in 1636. The hearts in the Crean arms and the inscription on the lower edge of the stone:

Cor mundum crea in me Deus et spiritum rectum innova in visceribus meis

'Create a clean heart in me, O God, and renew a right spirit within my bowels' probably constitute a punning allusion to the Irish word for heart (croidhe), the the sound of which resembles that of the name Crean.

Another stone, dated 1625, bears the Crean arms impaled witha rampant lion, apparantly for Jones. Across the base is carved two curious rhyme:

Wee two are one by his decree

That raigneth from eternity

Who first erected have these stones

Wee robucre Crean Elicia Jones"

 

I don't know if the above confuses us all further or if it helps. It certainly suggests that the O'Craian family were of high standing asthe tomb is of similar size to an O'Connor tomb in the Friary. These arethe O'Connor Sligo family who were lords of Sligo for centuries and wereone of the leading families of North Connacht.

I have another source which refers to the Crean mechants from Sligo. It is a book entitled "The Diocese of Achonry 1689-1818: A Hidden Church", by Fr Liam Swords. It was published last year - ISBN 1-8560-7204-5.

While the title might suggest that ti concentrates on the Church, it also goes into great detail on the lives of people and politics during this period. I would highly recommend it for anyone with roots inSligo.

In case you don't know, the Diocese of Achonry comprises one-third of Co. Sligo, one-fifth of Co. Mayo and one parish (Ballaghaderreen) from Co. Roscommon. It covers the Baronies of Gallen, Leyny, Costello,

Corran and Coolavin.

 

In one place in the book, it refers to an Act of 1704 which requiredall Catholic priests to register. In order to register, each priest had to have 2 sureties or guarantors, for £50 each. "Two members of the Crean family of Sligo, John and Stephen, were also guarantors. John, a merchant, gave a surety for James O'Connell of Ballisodare and Stephen, who may also have been a merchant, was Thady Higgins' second guarantor.

John Crean and John Lamey gave sureties also for priests of their own diocese of Elphin. ........

The Creans, John and Stephen, belonged to an old and distinguishedSligo family which ranked second only to the O'Connor Sligo family. Their residence was known as O'Crean's Castle and between the 15th and 17th

centuries they were a family of great wealth and high station and foremost among the merchant princes of that era. They lost much oftheir property as a result of the 1641 rebellion.".

It gives the book "Ballysadare and Kilvarnet" by O'Rorke, pages 476-7as a reference for this information. 

 

All of the above strongly suggests that the Crean/O'Craian family were of very high standing in Sligo and were also staunch Catholic families.Hope this helps your research.Best regards Michael

 

From:Fatarm@aol.com Add to Address BookDate:Tue, 29 Sep 1998 23:07:51 EDTSubject:[CRYAN-L] MacCrohan, Croghan; (O) Crehan; Creighton -- MacLysaght's take on it allTo:CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

MacCrohan, Croghan; (O) Crehan; Creighton -- MacLysaght's take on it alltranscribed below from "More Irish Families" p. 68-9:

MacCrohan, Croghan; (O) Crehan; Creighton :  These are three distinctsurnamesof quite different origin, but liable to be confused.  MacCrohan, withwhichthe prefix Mac is almost always retained, is a Kerry name, the septbeing abranch of the O'Sullivans with whom they were regularly associated: they wererecorded, for example, as providing 40 men for O'Sullivan's army in1596.Their seat was the castle of Letter, near Cahirciveen.  In the penaltimesthey were reduced to obscurity in Ireland, but as exiles they rose toprominence in Spain.  As late as 1657 the MacCriohins are included in astatepaper of the day among the Munster families "plotting for trouble"; andin thenext generation we find Denis MacCroghan an officer in O'Donovan'sregiment ofJames II's army, while Jeremiah Croghan was in Creagh's regiment.  Two

MacCroghans of Kerry were subsequently attainted as Jacobites.     Croghan, however, is listed both by Matheson and Woulfe as adistinctname, the latter giving MacConchruachan as the form in Irish and

explaining itas "son of the hound of Croghan":  Croghan, the ancient royal seat ofConnact,is a place in County Roscommon, to which county he assigna this minorsept.     Older anglicized forms of the Kerry name as found in the Fiants,MonasticExtents etc., are MacCriohin, MacCruhen, MacCrughen; MacCriffon,

however,which would be an approximate phonetic rendering of the IrishMacCriomhthiann,occurs in the Fiants only in County Wexford and some other LeinsterCounties.The name of the Kerry seanchaidhe, Thomas O Criomthainn, so well knownfor hisAn tOileanach (the Islandman) is so printed in that and other books. As thisis always a Mac not an O name, this form is remarkable.     The MacCrohans of Kerry sometimes appear also as MacCrehan, e.g.,in apatent of James I wherein the chief is called MacCrehan alias

O'Sullivan.Crehan, however, normally without a prefix in modern times, is entirelydifferent, being usually O Creachain in Irish:  this sept belonged tothe HyFiachrach group and was located in the barony of Tirawley, County Mayo,itsmodern representatives being almost all found in that county and County

Galway.  Another Crehan, O Croidheain of counties Sligo and Donegal, isdealtwith in Irish Families (see Crean) [a reference to his first book].     All this, however, does not exhaust the possibilities ofconfusion, for OCriochain of Ardstraw, County Tyrone, the name of the Oriel sept, hasalsobeen anglicized Crehan; but, in accordance with the unfortunatetendency,especially in  Ulster, to adopt English names approximating sound toearlierand more Irish forms, Creighton has largely superseded Crehan in thenorth.Indeed it was common in Donegal and Tyrone in the mid-seventeenthcentury asthe Hearth Money rolls show.  Creaton is another symptom of it. Creighton isalso a variant of the Scottish surname Crichton.  It appears asCreichtown

among the Scottish applicants for lands at the time of the Plantation ofUlster.  Creighton is the surname of the Earls of Erne.  John Creighton(1768-1827) who introduced the practice of vaccination into Ireland was

one ofthis family:  he was born at Athlone.  Edward Creighton (1820-1874) wasatelegraph pioneer in the United States. William Croghan (1752-1822) wasamajor in the U.S. revolutioanry army in 1778 and his son, Col. GeorgeCroghan,was also a distinguished American soldier.  Another Irish-American,GeorgeCroghan (c. 1710-1782), was a most successful Indian agent.  The famousAmerican actress Ada Rehan (1860-1916) was actually a Crehan by name. She wasborn in Limerick.  (see Crowne).___________________

From:Fatarm@aol.com Add to Address BookDate:Tue, 29 Sep 1998 23:36:58 EDTSubject:[CRYAN-L] 1796 Spinning Wheel Index of NamesTo:CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

 

Pat R. kindly explained to me (and far better than I ever could, evenif I hadknown) what the 1796 Spinning Wheel Index of Names is, and I quote:

"As I understand it, the Linen manufacturers, in order to encourage theincreasedplanting of flax throughout the country, promised a spinning wheel toeachfarmer who would turn over an acre of land to flax.  The advantage thatthislist offers is the naming of tenants rather than just land owners at atime

that is not covered by other records.

"The All Ireland Heritage Series Edition of the Alphabetical Index totheNames contained in the Premium Entitlement lists of the Trustees of theLinen and Hempen Manufacturers of Ireland/ AKA the 1796 Spinning WheelList." The printed record covers approved claims for 89,506 spinningwheels(or equivalent units). Since the average award per person was less thantwowheels, the list includes at least 50,000 individuals. Ulster excelledwith57,811 wheels reported (64%)"  Dublin and Wicklow had no listings. "----------

Below is a transcription from the Index, and my last big posting forseveralweeks! (promise!)

NAME: COUNTY; PARISH/BARONY

Craghan, John: Meath; Kilberry

Crane, Honora: Roscommon; Kilumad

Creaghan, James: Galway; Aughyart

Creaghan, Owen: Galway; Killyan

Creaghan, Thomas: Galway; Killyan

Crean, Edward: Kerry; Kilgobbin

Crean, Michael: Kerry; Kielquant

Crean, Peter: Kerry; Kilgobbin

Creegan, Bridget: Longford; Bar of Granard

Creegan, Daniel: Leitrim; Cloone

Creegan, Finn: Londonderry; Cumber

Creegan, James: Leitrim; Cloone

Creegan, James: Londonderry; Lissane

Creegan, John: Leitrim; Cloone

Creegan, Mathew: Leitrim; Cloone

Creen, John: Down; Kilclief

Creen, John: Down; Maghera

Creen, John: Roscommon; Kilumad

Creen, Michael: Down; Ballyculter

Cregan, Claudius: Tyrone; Cappagh

Cregan, Patrick: Tyrone; Clonfecle

Creighan, Bryan: Monaghan; Kilmore

Creighan, Bryan: Monaghan; Monaghan

Creighan, Edward: Monaghan; Kilmore

Creighan, Elener: Monaghan; Kilmore

Creighan, John:  Monaghan; Kilmore

Creighan, Philip:  Monaghan; Kilmore

Creighan, Stephen:  Monaghan; Kilmore

Creighen, Edward: Monaghan; Drumsnat

Crien, Owen: Roscommon; Boyle

Crien, Owen: Roscommon; Killucan

Crien, Peter: Roscommon; Killucan

Crigan, Patrick: Tyrone; Aughalow

Criggan, John: Fermanagh; Enniskillen

Crine, Widow: Roscommon; Killmore

Crinnan, James: Louth; Darver

Crinnan, Margaret: Louth; Darver

Crinnan, Mark: Louth; Dromiskin

Crinnan, Michael: Louth; Darver

Crinnion, Patrick: Louth; Ardee

Crinnion, Peter: Louth; Clonkeen

Crinnon, Nicholas: Meath; Rushwell

Crinnon, Patrick: Meath; Killery

Crodan, Patrick: Longford; Barony of Granard

Crogan, Terence: Tyrone; Clonfecle

Croghan, Darby: Roscommon; Boyle

Croghan, James: Roscommon; Kilumad

Croghan, Michael: Roscommon; Kilumad

Croghan, Parson: Roscommon; Tobohin

Croghan, Patrick: Roscommon; Kiltrustan

Croghan, Thomas: Westmeath; St. Feighan

Crohon, Bat.: Kerry; Ventry

Crohon, James: Kerry; Kielquane

Crohon, John: Kerry; Kielquane

Crohon, Philip: Kerry; Dunqueen

Cronan, Patrick: Cavan; Crousherlough

Cronen, Patrick: Kerry; Balliancourty

Cronoge, Anne: Leitrim; Kiltaughert    [I haven't come across this

surname b4]

Cronoge, Bryan: Leitrim; Kiltaughert

Cronoge, John: Leitrim; Kiltaughert

Cryan, Bryan: Roscommon; Kilcooly

Cryan, Conner: Sligo; Kilshalvy

Cryan, Murtagh: Roscommon; Elphin

Cryan, Owen: Roscommon; Kilcooly

Cryan, Thady: Sligo; Drumrat

M'Creaghan, Michael: Tyrone; Lissen

M'Crohon, Owen: Kerry; Kieldrum

___________________

Reply-To:"Family History" < >From:"Family History" < > Add to Address BookSubject:Re: [CRYAN-L] O Craian/Crean of Sligo townDate:Wed, 30 Sep 1998 08:46:15 +0100To:CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Thank you Michael, that is brilliant.I had thought that this information would only be available in alibrary inSligo. It also shows that we are going in the right direction. We nowneedto get the family connections further back to see where we fit in.You have also answered my questions about the diocese of Achonry - thankyou.Until again ,take care, Eve

 

Date:Wed, 30 Sep 1998 14:28:11 -0400From:Jim Ogg <J_JOgg@compuserve.com> Add to Address BookSubject:[Fwd: Taking Genealogy Too Seriously.......]To:Cathy Amatnieks <amatniek@rogers.wave.ca>,Beth Banks <beth@hallmoor.demon.co.uk>,Malcolm Craik <m.f.craik@ncl.ac.uk>,Kevin Cryan <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>,Linda Donovan Evans <evans@nbnet.nb.ca>,Thelma Gledhill <106151.372@compuserve.com>,Bobbie & John Hoechlin <bojo@aone.com>,Trish Hopkins <parrspub@globalserve.net>,Rhonda Little <Little4580@aol.com>,Mary Lyons <106462.2127@compuserve.com>,Ann Osborne <WillowPond_Lympsham@compuserve.com>,"Dr. Barry Potvin" <potvin@ymail.yu.edu>,Bill & Jean Putnam <virgini252@aol.com>,"Robert H. Wheelock" <RHWheelock@aol.com>,Brian Seddon <bseddon@bigpond.com>,Greg Latham <Greg@lathamg.freeserve.co.uk>

 

Dear Fellow Researchers,This was emailed to me from another researcher in Canada.  Enjoy!

YOU KNOW YOU'RE TAKING GENEALOGY TOO SERIOUSLY IF ...

You are the only person to show up at the cemetery research partywith a shovel.

To put the "final touches" on your genealogical research, you'veasked all of your closest relatives to provide DNA samples.

You were instrumental in having "non-genealogical use of thegenealogy room copy machine" classified as a federal hate crime.

Your house leans slightly toward the side where your genealogicalrecords are stored.

You decided to take a two-week break from genealogy, and the U.S.Postal Office immediately laid off 1,500 employees.

Out of respect for your best friend's unquestioned reputation forhonesty and integrity, you are willing to turn off that noisysurveillancecamera while she reviews your 57 genealogical research notebooks in your

home. The armed security guard, however, will remain.

You plod merrily along "refining" your recently published familyhistory, blissfully unaware that the number of errata pages now farexceeds the number of pages in your original publication.

During an ice storm and power outage, you ignore the pleas of yourshivering spouse and place your last quilt around that 1886 photographofdear Uncle George.

The most recent document in your "Missing Ancestors" file is a 36-page contract between you and Johnson Billboard Advertising Company.

Ed McMahon, several t.v. cameras and an envelope from PublishersClearing House arrive at your front door on Super Bowl Sunday, and thefirst thing you say is, "Are you related to the McMahons of Ohio?"

"A Loving Family" and "Financial Security" have moved up to secondand third, respectively, on your list of life's goals, but still lag farbehind "Owning My Own Microfilm Reader."

A magical genie appears and agrees to grant your any one wish, andyou ask that the 1890 census be restored.

Warm regards,Joan Ogg

 

From:Fatarm@aol.com Add to Address BookDate:Fri, 2 Oct 1998 00:52:02 EDTSubject:[CRYAN-L] I have to say, I'm impressedTo:CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Both with Michael's knowledge and posting and with Lyle's webpage.  Besure tocheck it out:  <A HREF="http://members.tripod.com/~havana_2/">DanialCryan-Ire.Can.and USA</A>.... and I'm just going to assume that the Lemmings are a reference tohowcaught up genealogists get .... (now even you Crean and Croghan typesarecurious, aren't you?)Thus, I'm going to post my names again to the list, in case there's a

connection waiting to happen:Robert CRYAN (1840-1901, S. Dublin), RIC Constable, m. Frances FOX

(1853-1917,Bronx, NY, USA), housewife and housekeeper.Their offspring:Katherine CRYAN (Sr. Mary Vincentia)Agnes CRYAN SMYTH (1887, Castlebar, Mayo-1968), Linde Air employee, myGgrandmom

    - her great grandson, my brother, is named after her, Daniel CryanBirch

Mary CRYAN GUNNIGLE m. Peter

Ellen CRYAN O'NEILL m. Tom

Anne CRYAN CAULFIELD m. James

Joseph CRYAN

Thomas CRYAN m. ? -- all died of tuberculosis (Tom, wife & twin

daughters)

Jack (john?) CRYAN

Robert CRYAN m. ?, had one daughter Dorothy CRYAN STOKES and two sons

If any of you Cryan researchers have a Robert anywhere in your

research, letme know -- they were rare (Robert + Cryan).  Thanks, Leslie

==== CRYAN Mailing List ====

Have you posted your research line to the list recently?  In two months

we grew to over 30 researchers.  Known surname variations being

researched by subscribers to list: MacCrohan/MacCroghan, Crain, Cryan,

Crehan, Cr¬an/Craine, Cregan, Crehan/Crane, and Craun/Crahan.

 

From:Harvey.Wohlwend@SEMATECH.Org Add to Address BookDate:Fri, 02 Oct 1998 08:31:22 -0500Subject:RE: [CRYAN-L] I have to say, I'm impressedTo:CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Thanks for posting your list of ancestors which linked me to the veryinformative web site about my ancestors! My mother is Eleanor Cryan, B:1917, and her father was Joseph DanielCryan,

B:1863. I grew up in Kingston Township, near Geneseo and Cayuga, NorthDakota,towns mentioned frequently at the web site. I visited Joseph and Anna'sgraveswith my mother this past July.

Incidentally, a Robert Cryan was born in Watertown SD in 1967. Hisfather wasCharles, Jr., B:1933, and his grandfather was Charles, Sr. B:1906, myuncle.

Thanks, Harvey Wohlwend Austin, Texas

 

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From:ljstandak@webtv.net (Lyle Staehnke) Add to Address BookDate:Fri, 2 Oct 1998 13:18:05 -0700 (PDT)Subject:[CRYAN-L] RE: Miscellaneous Cryan Info:To:CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

 

MISC CRYAN

Cryan Family Of Boyle, Co. Roscommon [ Follow Ups ] [ The

Leitrim-Roscommon Bulletin Board ] [ FAQ ] Posted by Maureen McCourt

Nantista on May 02, 1997 at 01:00:06: Am interested in hearing from

anyone with information concerning the Cryans of Boyle Parish. My own

family is as follows: 1. Peter CRYAN (abt 1798) sp. Araeta MATTIMOE (abt

1798) 2. Catherine CRYAN (1823) 2. Peter CRYAN (1824) 2. Michael CRYAN

(1826) sp. Mary DURR (1828) 3. Mary Ann CRYAN (1853) ? sp. James BRENNAN

(1853) 3. Michael CRYAN (1855-1933) sp. Bridget CASEY (1855-1917) 4.

Michael J. CRYAN (1881-1961) 4. Jane CRYAN (1882-1951) sp- Michael

CUNNINGHAM(1881-1962) 4. John CRYAN (1884-1929) sp. Sarah MCINTOSH

(1889-1967) 4. Bridget CRYAN (1885-1963) sp. James SCANLON (?-1973) 4.

Patrick Joseph CRYAN (1887-1917) sp. Julia GAINE (1894) 4. Mary Anne

CRYAN (1888-1894) 4. Peter CRYAN (1890-1917) 4. Catherine CRYAN

(1892-1911) 4. Eugene CRYAN (1894-1913) 4. Francis Joseph CRYAN

(1897-1960) 4. Leo Augustine CRYAN (1899-1981) 3. Elizabeth CRYAN (1857)

3. Peter CRYAN (1860) 3. Patrick CRYAN (1862) 3. John CRYAN (1864) 3.

John CRYAN (1866) The family lived in Deerpark and Boyle. Michael CRYAN

(1855-1933) was well known and steward of the Catholic Club. His sons

Michael J., Francis and Leo formed the popular Boyle Havana Band. Leo

was also the govt. insurance agent in Boyle. In addition to CRYAN

relatives I would like to learn of any DURR or CASEY cousins of this

family. Will supply additional information to anyone interested. Thank

you and good luck to all reading this. Follow Ups: [ Follow Ups ] [ The

Leitrim-Roscommon Bulletin Board ] [ FAQ ]

The National Archives of Ireland Search results Found 2 records matching

cryan. Printing first 2 of 2 records. The document reference in each

entry below is the National Archives of Ireland reference to the

original document in the archives. The microfilm reference number refers

to the set of microfilms presented to Australia in 1988. Record 1 of 2

SURNAME: CRYAN OTHER NAMES: JOHN AGE: 28 SEX: M ALIAS: PLACE OF TRIAL:

Co. Sligo TRIAL DATE: 20/06/1848 PLACE OF IMPRISONMENT: DOCUMENT DATE:

CRIME DESCRIPTION: Burglary with intent SENTENCE: Transportation 7 yrs

SHIP: London PETITIONER: RELATIONSHIP: DOCUMENT REFERENCES: TR 8, P 142

MICROFILM REFERENCES: COMMENTS: Record 2 of 2 SURNAME: CRYAN OTHER

NAMES: JOHN AGE: 0 SEX: M ALIAS: PLACE OF TRIAL: Sligo TRIAL DATE:

20/06/1849 PLACE OF IMPRISONMENT: kilmainham DOCUMENT DATE: 24/03/1850

CRIME DESCRIPTION: burglary SENTENCE: transportation 7 yrs SHIP:

PETITIONER: RELATIONSHIP: DOCUMENT REFERENCES: CRF1850misc2(2) MICROFILM

REFERENCES: COMMENTS: Back to the Transportation Search Page Back to

National Archives home page Last update:29sep95

Ontario Cemetery Finding Aid Search Results For information on the

Database Fields, see the OCFA Field Information page. Name: CRYAN, Annie

(Clyne) Cemetery: Avondale, Stratford (Roman Catholic sections) County:

Perth Township: Downie Reference: PH-286-3 Name: CRYAN, David Cemetery:

Avondale, Stratford (Roman Catholic sections) County: Perth Township:

Downie Reference: PH-286-3 Name: CRYAN, Ellen Cemetery: St Josephs Roman

Catholic County: Perth Township: Ellice Reference: PH-000-0 Name: CRYAN,

John Cemetery: St Josephs Roman Catholic County: Perth Township: Ellice

Reference: PH-000-0 Name: CRYAN, Valentine Cemetery: Avondale, Stratford

(Roman Catholic sections) County: Perth Township: Downie Reference:

PH-286-3 Back to the OCFA Search Page Back to the OCFA Home Page

Saved message From: cdobie@superaje.com (Charles Dobie) Date: Wed, Jun

10, 1998, 12:19am (PDT+3) To: ljstandak@webtv.net (Lyle Staehnke)

Subject: Cryan in OCFA 6 Lyle, Here are the CRYAN entries in OCFA 6:

"CRYAN","-","Holy Angels Roman Catholic, St

Thomas","Elgin","Yarmouth","EL-535","C650" "CRYAN","Anna

Freeman","Avondale, Stratford (Range

18)","Perth","Downie","PH-288-X","C650" "CRYAN","Charles J.","Holy

Angels Roman Catholic, St Thomas","Elgin","Yarmouth","EL-535","C650"

"CRYAN","Charles L.","Holy Angels Roman Catholic, St

Thomas","Elgin","Yarmouth","EL-535","C650" "CRYAN","Delia S.","Holy

Angels Roman Catholic, St Thomas","Elgin","Yarmouth","EL-535","C650"

"CRYAN","Emerson S.","Holy Angels Roman Catholic, St

Thomas","Elgin","Yarmouth","EL-535","C650" "CRYAN","Joseph

P.","Avondale, Stratford (Range 18)","Perth","Downie","PH-288-X","C650"

"CRYAN","Nellie Kelterborn","Avondale, Stratford (Range

18)","Perth","Downie","PH-288-X","C650" "CRYAN","Wilfred C.","Avondale,

Stratford (Range 18)","Perth","Downie","PH-288-X","C650" I hope they are

some use to you. Cheers, Charlie Dobie, cdobie@superaje.com

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oreign-Born Voters of California -1872- Surnames beginning with the

Letter C (Part 4) Record numbers 10515 thru 11768 Copyright © Jim W.

Faulkinbury and FEEFHS, 1996 Latest Update: 29 April 1996 This Web-Base

is a finding aid to the compiled voter registration data in Jim W.

Faulkinbury's Cryan, Thomas......39 in 1872......born in

Ireland......11335

   1871 census,Ontario head of house hold...First name is

misspelled should be Danial instead of David Cryan.... [New Search /

Nouvelle recherche] [How to interpret your results and order copies /

Comment interpréter les résultats et obtenir des copies] Result for

query "cryan" Résultat de la recherche effectuée à partir du mot

clé "cryan" File/Fichier //Dundas/Dundas_06 line 152: CRYAN DAVID 68

IRELAND RC IRISH F 071 A 2 23 04 File/Fichier //Ontario/Ontario_15 line

62: CRYAN MICHAEL JAMES 2 RC 049 E 2 D 51 line 63: CRYAN THOMAS 32 O RC

IRISH CARPENTER 049 E 2 40 51 File/Fichier //Perth/Perth_13 line 82:

CRYAN BERNARD 59 IRELAND RC IRISH F 030 B 1 1 55 line 83: CRYAN ELLEN 1

1 45 IRELAND RC IRISH SERVANT 030 C 4 40 55 line 84: CRYAN JOHN 35

ENGLAND RC IRISH F 030 B 1 4 55 Summary for query "cryan"/ Sommaire de

la recherche effectuée à partir du mot clé "cryan": found 6

matches in 3 files/ 6 documents(s) trouvé(s) dans 3 fichier(s) [New

Search / Nouvelle recherche] [How to interpret your results and order

copies / Comment interpréter les résultats et obtenir des copies]

© Public Works & Government Services, Canada (1995). All rights

reserved. Terms and conditions National Archives of Canada Archives

nationales du Canada

Irish Rowing Hall of Fame SENIOR ROWING CHAMPIONS: 1912 - 1996 Most

Individual Wins Name:Club(s): M/WWins 8'sWinsEvents: Frank

MOOREGarda-Neptune M1478, 4+, 2-, 2xGerry MURPHYNeptuneM1488, 4+ Eunan

DOLANNeptuneM 1378, 4+ Nicole RYANCommercial-Anna Liffey-Workmen's

W13.4+, 2-Niall O'TOOLECommercialM12.2x, 1x, L1x Willie RYANGardaM 1268,

4+, 2-, 2x Frances CRYANCarrick-on-Shannon W11.1xCathy BUCHANANQueen's

Ladies'-Belfast RC W10.4+, 2-, 1xJohn

* GUARANTEED GOOD FOOD * . ......at Cryan's Riverside Restaurant The

Restaurant specialises in Traditional Homecooked Cuisine Proffering THE

BEST in Good Wholesome Food FRESH SEAFOOD GOOD IRISH BEEF STEAKS 'Daily

Specials' for Breakfast, Lunch & Evening Dinner (A La' Carte) OPEN 7

DAYS 8 till LATE * GUARANTEED GOOD MUSIC & CRAIC * ......at Cryan's

Riverside Bar Traditional Irish Music every Tuesday, Friday, Saturday

and Sunday Nights. * GUARANTEED A FRIENDLY STAY * .......at Cryan's

Riverside Bed & Breakfast So, for Good Music, Good Food and a Friendly

Stay come to.... Bridge Street, Carrick on Shannon, Co.Leitrim. Tel: +

(353) (78) 20409 Return to Irish Internet Yellow Pages or Holiday

Ireland

 

From:ljstandak@webtv.net (Lyle Staehnke) Add to Address BookDate:Sat, 3 Oct 1998 11:15:54 -0700 (PDT)Subject:[CRYAN-L] 1885 CensusTo:CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

http://dp3.lib.ndsu.nodak.edu/cgi-bin/1885Census/search.pl?page=1&name=cryan&occupation=&nativity=&city=&county=

 

Date:Sat, 03 Oct 1998 17:12:27 -0400From:leonard w crean <crean@erols.com> Add to Address BookReply-To:crean@erols.comSubject:[CRYAN-L] my Crean lineTo:CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Fellow Crean's can anyone relate to my line below:

Descendants of Dennis Crean

Generation No. 1

1.  DENNIS1 CREAN was born Abt. 1780 in IRELAND, and died Abt. 1850 in

IRELAND.  He married HANNAH.

Child of DENNIS CREAN and HANNAH is:

2. i. CORNELIUS2 CREAN, b. Abt. 1810, CORK,IRELAND; d. May 22, 1876,

Rockport,Essex,Massachusetts.

Generation No. 2

2.  CORNELIUS2 CREAN (DENNIS1) was born Abt. 1810 in CORK,IRELAND1, and

died May 22, 1876 in Rockport,Essex,Massachusetts1.  He married

CATHERINE SULLIVAN 1836 in IRELAND.

Children of CORNELIUS CREAN and CATHERINE SULLIVAN are:

3. i. DENNIS3 CREAN, b. August 20, 1846, CORK,IRELAND; d. September 20,

1887, Salem, Essex, Massachusetts.

4. ii. JOHN CREAN, b. 1849, CORK,IRELAND.

5. iii. JEREMIAH J. CREAN, b. May 01, 1857, CORK,IRELAND; d. September

04, 1890, Salem,Essex,Massachusetts.

 iv. JULIA CREAN, b. 18602.

6. v. MARY J. CREAN, b. May 1860, CORK,IRELAND; d. November 29, 1896,

SALEM,ESSEX,MASS..

 vi. HANNAH CREAN, b. 1863, ROCKPORT,ESSEX,MA.2; d. August 02, 1949,

SALEM,ESSEX,MASS.3.

 vii. CATHERINE J. CREAN, b. 1865, ROCKPORT,ESSEX,MA.4; d. November 02,

1891, SALEM,ESSEX,MASS.5.

Generation No. 3

3.  DENNIS3 CREAN (CORNELIUS2, DENNIS1) was born August 20, 1846 in

CORK,IRELAND6, and died September 20, 1887 in Salem, Essex,

Massachusetts7.  He married ELLEN FREEMAN 1868 in IRELAND, daughter of

MICHAEL FREEMEN and HARRIET DURKIN.

Notes for DENNIS CREAN:

Came to New York in July 22,1862 and became a citizen on Nov.6,1876.

Last name was spelled Crane until 1870 census then it was Crean.

Notes for ELLEN FREEMAN:

Buried in St. Marys Cemetery Salem

Children of DENNIS CREAN and ELLEN FREEMAN are:

7. i. CORNELIUS J.4 CREAN, b. August 03, 1869,

Rockport,Essex,Massachusetts; d. 1942, Salem, Essex, Massachusetts.

 ii. HARRIET F. CREAN, b. October 1870, Rockport,Essex,Massachusetts8.

8. iii. DENNIS MICHAEL CREAN, b. February 21, 1872,

Rockport,Essex,Massachusetts; d. May 16, 1954, Salem, Essex,

Massachusetts.

 iv. MICHAEL CREAN, b. July 21, 1873, Rockport,Essex,Massachusetts9; d.

December 05, 1881, Salem,Essex,Massachusetts10.

 v. CATHERINE GERTRUDE CREAN, b. April 03, 1875,

Rockport,Essex,Massachusetts11; m. JOHN JOSEPH BARRY, November 28, 1916,

Lynn,Essex,Massachusetts12.

 vi. MARY ELLEN CREAN, b. October 08, 1876,

Rockport,Essex,Massachusetts13; m. JOHN W. BRENNEN.

 vii. JULIA CREAN, b. November 1878, Salem,Essex,Massachusetts14; d.

November 27, 1880, Salem,Essex,Massachusetts15.

4.  JOHN3 CREAN (CORNELIUS2, DENNIS1) was born 1849 in CORK,IRELAND16.

He married MARY REAGAN July 22, 1879 in SALEM,ESSEX,MASS.16, daughter of

PATRICK REAGAN and ELLEN REAGAN.

Notes for JOHN CREAN:

HE LIVED IN ROCKPORT,MA. IN 1879

Notes for MARY REAGAN:

SHE LIVED IN SALEM,MA. IN 1879

Child of JOHN CREAN and MARY REAGAN is:

 i. CATHERINE E.4 CREAN, b. June 01, 1880, ROCKPORT,ESSEX,MA.17; d. Abt.

1955.

5.  JEREMIAH J.3 CREAN (CORNELIUS2, DENNIS1) was born May 01, 1857 in

CORK,IRELAND18, and died September 04, 1890 in

Salem,Essex,Massachusetts19.  He married CATHERINE J. BUCKLEY January

28, 1881 in Salem,Essex,Massachusetts20, daughter of WILLIAM BUCKLEY and

MARY WALSH.

Children of JEREMIAH CREAN and CATHERINE BUCKLEY are:

9. i. CORNELIUS J.4 CREAN, b. January 28, 1882,

Salem,Essex,Massachusetts; d. August 09, 1966,

Salem,Essex,Massachusetts.

 ii. WILLIAM F. CREAN, b. July 04, 1882, SALEM,ESSEX,MASS.21; d. October

02, 1941, SALEM,ESSEX,MASS.22.

 iii. JEREMIAH FRANCIS CREAN, b. December 26, 1884, SALEM,ESSEX,MASS.23;

d. February 07, 1957, SALEM,ESSEX,MASS.24; m. HELEN FRANCES REIDY, June

05, 1918, PEABODY,ESSEX,MA.by N.J.MURPHY PRIEST25.

 iv. MARY CREAN, b. January 19, 1887, SALEM,ESSEX,MASS.26; d. 1896,

SALEM,ESSEX,MASS..

 v. CHARLES F. CREAN, b. August 31, 1889, SALEM,ESSEX,MASS.27; d. August

28, 1967, SALEM,ESSEX,MASS.28; m. CATHERINE J. MCDONALD, 1916.

6.  MARY J.3 CREAN (CORNELIUS2, DENNIS1) was born May 1860 in

CORK,IRELAND29, and died November 29, 1896 in SALEM,ESSEX,MASS.30.  She

married DENNIS WELCH November 25, 1880 in SALEM,ESSEX,MASS.31, son of

WALTER WELCH and MARY LINSKEY.

Children of MARY CREAN and DENNIS WELCH are:

 i. MARY J.4 WELCH, b. August 1881.

 ii. WALTER WELCH, b. August 09, 1884, QUINCY,SUFFORK,MA32.

10. iii. NORA TRERESA WELCH, b. April 08, 1890, CAMBRIDGE,SUFFORK,MA; d.

July 06, 1968, SOMERVILLE,SUFFORK,MA.

 iv. DENNIS MARTIN WELCH,JR, b. July 03, 1892, CAMBRIDGE,SUFFORK,MA32.

 v. JOHN WELCH, b. May 189432.

Generation No. 4

7.  CORNELIUS J.4 CREAN (DENNIS3, CORNELIUS2, DENNIS1) was born August

03, 1869 in Rockport,Essex,Massachusetts33, and died 1942 in Salem,

Essex, Massachusetts.  He married MARY A. KERWIN October 11, 1905 in

PEABODY,ESSEX,MA.BY M.J.MASTERSON CLERGYMAN34, daughter of PATRICK

KERWIN and JENNIE BULGER.

Children of CORNELIUS CREAN and MARY KERWIN are:

11. i. ARTHUR J.5 CREAN, b. October 01, 1906, Salem, Essex,

Massachusetts; d. March 06, 1996, Salem, Essex, Massachusetts.

12. ii. RAYMOND J. CREAN, b. February 09, 1909, Salem, Essex,

Massachusetts; d. August 1986, TEXAS 78050.

8.  DENNIS MICHAEL4 CREAN (DENNIS3, CORNELIUS2, DENNIS1) was born

February 21, 1872 in Rockport,Essex,Massachusetts35, and died May 16,

1954 in Salem, Essex, Massachusetts36.  He married MARGRET ROSE MULCAHY

June 14, 1903 in Salem, Essex, Massachusetts37, daughter of JAMES

MULCAHY and MARY MCKEON.

Notes for DENNIS MICHAEL CREAN:

BURIED IN ST. MARYS CEME. SALEM LOT#  429 20 ST. REAR

Children of DENNIS CREAN and MARGRET MULCAHY are:

13. i. DENNIS J.5 CREAN, b. December 23, 1904, SALEM,MASS.; d. March 28,

1983, LYNN,MA..

 ii. JAMES CREAN, b. December 23, 1904, SALEM,MASS.; d. December 23,

1904, SALEM,MASS..

 iii. MARY M. CREAN, b. 1906, Salem,Essex,Massachusetts; d. September

20, 1920, Salem,Essex,Massachusetts38.

Notes for MARY M. CREAN:

BURIED WITH GRANDPARENTS MULCAHY AT ST. MARY'S CEME. SALEM LOT 211

AVENUE 17

14. iv. WALTER FRANCIS CREAN,SR., b. September 01, 1908, Salem, Essex,

Massachusetts; d. May 03, 1995, Beverly,Essex,Massachusetts.

15. v. CATHERINE H. CREAN, b. April 24, 1910, Salem,Essex,Massachusetts;

d. October 1983, Salem,Essex,Massachusetts.

 vi. CHARLES C. CREAN, b. 1912, Salem,Essex,Massachusetts; d. November

30, 1962, Salem,Essex,Massachusetts.

Notes for CHARLES C. CREAN:

BURIED IN ST. MARY'S SALEM

16. vii. ELLEN MARIE CREAN, b. July 28, 1916, SALEM,MASS.; d. October

1981, SALEM,MASS..

9.  CORNELIUS J.4 CREAN (JEREMIAH J.3, CORNELIUS2, DENNIS1) was born

January 28, 1882 in Salem,Essex,Massachusetts39, and died August 09,

1966 in Salem,Essex,Massachusetts40.  He married CATHERINE M. DUNLEAVY

June 14, 1904 in Salem,Essex,Massachusetts41, daughter of PETER DUNLEAVY

and MARGARET MOONEY.

Children of CORNELIUS CREAN and CATHERINE DUNLEAVY are:

 i. MARY MARGARET5 CREAN, b. 1905; d. May 11, 1965,

Salem,Essex,Massachusetts; m. BERRY.

 ii. CATHERINE J. CREAN, b. 1907; d. August 05, 1930,

SALEM,ESSEX,MASS.42; m. MACDONALD.

17. iii. CHARLES J. CREAN, b. October 01, 1908; d. June 12, 1990,

SALEM,ESSEX,MASS..

18. iv. JOSEPH L. CREAN, b. 1911, Salem, Essex, Massachusetts; d. Abt.

1940, Salem, Essex, Massachusetts.

19. v. ANNA ELIZABETH CREAN, b. October 14, 1911, SALEM,ESSEX,MASS..

20. vi. GERALD JOHN CREAN, b. August 05, 1913, SALEM,ESSEX,MASS.; d.

July 24, 1981, BEVERLY,ESSEX,MASSACHUSETTS.

 vii. HELEN M CREAN, b. May 1916, SALEM,ESSEX,MASSACHUSETTS43; m. REGAN.

viii. RITA CREAN, b. 1920; m. BERRY.

10.  NORA TRERESA4 WELCH (MARY J.3 CREAN, CORNELIUS2, DENNIS1) was born

April 08, 1890 in CAMBRIDGE,SUFFORK,MA44, and died July 06, 1968 in

SOMERVILLE,SUFFORK,MA44.  She married JOHN ANTHONY MCCARTHY June 07,

191044.

Children of NORA WELCH and JOHN MCCARTHY are:

 i. DOROTHY5 MCCARTHY.

 ii. GERTRUDE MCCARTHY, m. JAMES SHEEHAN.

 iii. WILLIAM MCCARTHY.

 iv. WINIFRED MCCARTHY.

 v. THOMAS MCCARTHY, b. 1911.

 vi. JOHN MCCARTHY,JR, b. 1913.

21. vii. MARY MCCARTHY, b. 1914.

22. viii. MARKIE MCCARTHY, b. 1915.

23. ix. ELEANOR LOUISE MCCARTHY, b. 1917; d. 1985.

 x. CATHERINE MCCARTHY, b. 1923; m. JOHN DEY.

 xi. RITA MCCARTHY, b. 1928; m. CHARLES KELLIHER.

 xii. ROSE M. MCCARTHY, b. 1928; m. RICHARD J. DALEY.

Generation No. 5

11.  ARTHUR J.5 CREAN (CORNELIUS J.4, DENNIS3, CORNELIUS2, DENNIS1) was

born October 01, 1906 in Salem, Essex, Massachusetts, and died March 06,

1996 in Salem, Essex, Massachusetts45.  He married M. FLORENCE HEALEY in

Salem, Essex, Massachusetts.

Children of ARTHUR CREAN and M. HEALEY are:

24. i. KEVIN A.6 CREAN, b. December 29, 1938, Salem, Essex,

Massachusetts.

25. ii. MARCIA CREAN, b. Unknown, Salem, Essex, Massachusetts.

12.  RAYMOND J.5 CREAN (CORNELIUS J.4, DENNIS3, CORNELIUS2, DENNIS1) was

born February 09, 1909 in Salem, Essex, Massachusetts, and died August

1986 in TEXAS 78050.  He married BRODERICK.

Child of RAYMOND CREAN and BRODERICK is:

26. i. RAYMOND J.6 CREAN,JR, b. October 30, 1937.

13.  DENNIS J.5 CREAN (DENNIS MICHAEL4, DENNIS3, CORNELIUS2, DENNIS1)

was born December 23, 1904 in SALEM,MASS., and died March 28, 1983 in

LYNN,MA..  He married CATHERINE V. O'CONNER.

Notes for DENNIS J. CREAN:

BOTH BURIED IN ST. MARYS CEME.SALEM

Child of DENNIS CREAN and CATHERINE O'CONNER is:

 i. NO6 KIDS.

14.  WALTER FRANCIS5 CREAN,SR. (DENNIS MICHAEL4, DENNIS3, CORNELIUS2,

DENNIS1) was born September 01, 1908 in Salem, Essex, Massachusetts46,

and died May 03, 1995 in Beverly,Essex,Massachusetts47.  He married

DOROTHY MILLDRED MACDONOUGH December 28, 1941 in

Beverly,Essex,Massachusetts48, daughter of FRANCIS MACDONOUGH and ADDA

FERRIS.

Children of WALTER CREAN and DOROTHY MACDONOUGH are:

15.  CATHERINE H.5 CREAN (DENNIS MICHAEL4, DENNIS3, CORNELIUS2, DENNIS1)

was born April 24, 1910 in Salem,Essex,Massachusetts, and died October

1983 in Salem,Essex,Massachusetts.  She married GEORGE ROBINSON in

Salem,Essex,Massachusetts.

16.  ELLEN MARIE5 CREAN (DENNIS MICHAEL4, DENNIS3, CORNELIUS2, DENNIS1)

was born July 28, 1916 in SALEM,MASS., and died October 1981 in

SALEM,MASS..  She met JOSEPH.

Child of ELLEN CREAN and JOSEPH is:

 i. FRANCIS6 W.CREAN, b. October 22, 1939, SALEM,MASS.; d. July 13,

1990, SALEM,MASS..

Notes for FRANCIS W.CREAN:

Was in USAF in 1960

17.  CHARLES J.5 CREAN (CORNELIUS J.4, JEREMIAH J.3, CORNELIUS2,

DENNIS1) was born October 01, 1908, and died June 12, 1990 in

SALEM,ESSEX,MASS..  He married MARIE G., daughter of MURPHY.

Child of CHARLES CREAN and MARIE G. is:

 i. NO KIDS6 CREAN.

18.  JOSEPH L.5 CREAN (CORNELIUS J.4, JEREMIAH J.3, CORNELIUS2, DENNIS1)

was born 1911 in Salem, Essex, Massachusetts, and died Abt. 1940 in

Salem, Essex, Massachusetts.  He married ELSIE M..

Child of JOSEPH CREAN and ELSIE M. is:

32. i. PETER6 CREAN, b. July 10, 1936, Salem, Essex, Massachusetts; d.

December 1972.

19.  ANNA ELIZABETH5 CREAN (CORNELIUS J.4, JEREMIAH J.3, CORNELIUS2,

DENNIS1) was born October 14, 1911 in SALEM,ESSEX,MASS.49.  She married

GEORGE FREDERICK MALONEY.

Child of ANNA CREAN and GEORGE MALONEY is:

 i. PATRICIA6 MALONEY, b. Abt. 1946.

20.  GERALD JOHN5 CREAN (CORNELIUS J.4, JEREMIAH J.3, CORNELIUS2,

DENNIS1) was born August 05, 1913 in SALEM,ESSEX,MASS.50, and died July

24, 1981 in BEVERLY,ESSEX,MASSACHUSETTS51.  He married HELEN C. HAYES.

21.  MARY5 MCCARTHY (NORA TRERESA4 WELCH, MARY J.3 CREAN, CORNELIUS2,

DENNIS1) was born 1914.  She married VINCENT RYAN.

Children of MARY MCCARTHY and VINCENT RYAN are:

 i. DONNA6 RYAN.

 ii. VINCENT RYAN.

22.  MARKIE5 MCCARTHY (NORA TRERESA4 WELCH, MARY J.3 CREAN, CORNELIUS2,

DENNIS1) was born 1915.  She married JOHN F. KILDERRY,JR.

23.  ELEANOR LOUISE5 MCCARTHY (NORA TRERESA4 WELCH, MARY J.3 CREAN,

CORNELIUS2, DENNIS1) was born 1917, and died 1985.  She married JOHN

ALFRED WHITE,JR.

 

Check out Ireland's National Archives web site for information on

what's available there and where to write, as well as on-line searches

for transportation records: //www.nationalarchives.ie/genealogy.html

 

From:Fatarm@aol.com Add to Address BookDate:Tue, 6 Oct 1998 22:33:13 EDTSubject:[CRYAN-L] Irish Times websiteTo:CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

I'm enjoying my holiday -- especially the part where I get access to aPentium

with a high speed modem and color printer!  I'm finally getting around

to allthe web sites some of you have posted - and you're quite right that

some ofthem are great reading.  Eve's favorite site listing [

<AHREF="http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Haven/1538/irish.html">Irish

Genealogy Bridge</A> ] was a good linking site, and lead me to some

Heraldryarticles I hadn't yet read and other Irish sites of interest.

And if you folks haven't checked out the Irish Times' site, this is a

goodtime to do so:  <A HREF="http://www.irish-

times.com/ancestor/browse/index.htm">Irish Ancestors;Browse</A>

they've got stuff searchable online.

I've also recently seen referenced the following LDS site, which may be

ofsome interest to those of you with less library access:

<AHREF="http://www.lds.org/en/4_News_Update/19980929_Genealogy_PR.html">Media

Information/News Update</A> -- I don't remember if I got it from a

how-to oran Ireland research mailing list.  You should also explore the LDS'

otherpages.  It's a good way to pick up other tidbits to help in research.

Michael T., have you posted your site to this mailing list recently?  I

hadproblems with your counter (your page froze twice on me), apparently,

but itmight just be AOL.  So I haven't gotten to all of it, but I like what

you did(especially in keeping the graphics simple - it was so fast!). I added

it toour mailing list taglines, hope you don't mind....

Lastly, another Cryan-ancestor-induced-anecdote.  My grandma let this

one flylast night: "God bless us and save us, says Biddy O'Davis" -- sure

enough, itwas one of my Ggrandmom's faves (she was our last Cryan).  I also

learned to"cut" biscuit dough -- who knew one actually used knives???  My french-

descended husband would be horrified (you should see him praying to his

pastries and other laminated desserts).Looking forward to reading your next, Leslie

 

 

From:Julie_Case@prodigy.com (MS JULIA M CASE) Add to Address BookDate:Wed, 7 Oct 1998 21:35:05, -0500Subject:RootsWeb Review, Vol. 1, No. 17To:RootsWeb-Review@rootsweb.com

ROOTSWEB REVIEW: Genealogical Data Cooperative Weekly News

Vol. 1, No. 17, 7 October 1998; Circulation: 216,600+

Copyright (c) 1998 RootsWeb Genealogical Data Cooperative

Editors: Julia M. Case and Myra Vanderpool Gormley, CG

         <RWR-Editors@rootsweb.com>

 

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CONTENTS: News and Notes from RootsWeb; Census Project Uploads;

GenConnect Uploads; Connecting through RootsWeb; Letters to the

Editors; Mailing Lists; Web Sites; Geek Speak; Genealogy is Like

Fishing; The English Language as it is Spoken; Humor; Reprint

Policy; Author Guidelines; Unsubscribe Instructions

NEWS AND NOTES FROM ROOTSWEB

 

ROOTS SURNAME LIST (RSL) PASSES MILESTONE. The RSL just passed

the half-million surnames mark. The October 1998 RootsWeb Surname

List, including 512,151 surnames (among them 30,719 new surnames)

submitted by 74,641 researchers, can now be searched at RootsWeb:

<<a href="http://www.rootsweb.com/" target=_blank>http://www.rootsweb.com/>.

 

Many other additions have been made to RootsWeb. Besides the RSL,

RootsWeb now hosts:

 

     o 3,194 independent Websites including USGenWeb,

       the USGenWeb Archives, WorldGenWeb, the ROOTS-L

       State Pages, IIGS, the Olive Tree, and Cyndi's

       List <<a href="http://www.CyndisList.com" target=_blank>http://www.CyndisList.com>.

 

     o 4,389 independent locality and surname mailing

       lists, many with searchable archives.

 

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INTERNATIONAL INTERNET GENEALOGICAL SOCIETY (IIGS). The October

1998 IIGS(tm) Newsletter is now available online at:

<<a href="http://www.iigs.org/newsletter" target=_blank>http://www.iigs.org/newsletter>. Articles include, "Why

International?, "The Mystery of the Melungeons," "Giving Credit,"

"Seelenstandsverzeichnis Project," "In Search of My Mennonite

Roots in Canada," and "IIGS(tm) Chat for Genealogy."

 

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CENSUS TRANSCRIPTIONS UPLOADED THIS WEEK TO USGenWeb ARCHIVES

<<a href="http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb" target=_blank>http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb>

 

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GENCONNECT: 145 NEW GENCONNECT BOARDS ACTIVATED WEEK OF 9/27/98

 

ACWRoots  6  <<a href="http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/indx/ACWRoots.html" target=_blank>http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/indx/ACWRoots.html>

Archives 62 (in beta testing)

Canada    9 <<a href="http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/index/Canada.html" target=_blank>http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/index/Canada.html>

FamilyAsc 5 <<a href="http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/index/FamAssoc.html" target=_blank>http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/index/FamAssoc.html>

CONNECTING THROUGH ROOTSWEB: Thanks for sharing your stories.

I have been trying to locate someone from my uncle Gene's family

and for about six months I had no success. I logged on to ALBIBB

and connected with my uncle's granddaughter. We have a date to

continue our research in Alabama in about ten days. Thank you! 

                                            <Joe52935@aol.com>

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When I started rooting about five years ago I thought my sister

and I were the only remaining members of the HOUSDEN family in

existence. At the time I didn't know about the Internet at all.

At the urging of a genealogy instructor I signed onto AOL and

posted my surname. Nothing happened. Then about two months later

as I was about to cancel my subscription and give up on the

Internet (what did I know about anything anyway?) I got a

response from a woman about five states away. She carried the

HOUSDEN surname, and thought, like I did, that her family was the

only one in existence. Did I want to talk? We both admit that for

the next month we wouldn't acknowledge our spouses, respond to

our children, answer the phone or pat the dog until we had

checked our e-mail to see what the other had sent.

 

Then I found RootsWeb. I now host a HOUSDEN surname list. Here's

the most exciting thing -- we now know that the original HOUSDEN

immigrant came to Virginia in 1769 as a convict and eventually

had nine children. Two of these children were girls who never

procreated or whose offspring died without issue. Two of these

children were girls who married and seemingly fell off the face

of the earth (although we think we have found them this summer).

We have descendants of the other five children as members of this

surname list and a collective database of about 4,000 names. This

is pretty impressive, I think, and possible only because of

RootsWeb and the Internet.

                                Vicky Drake <dvicky@primenet.com>

 

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                   LETTERS TO THE EDITORS

 

THE PRIVACY OF VULNERABLE PEOPLE. In "RootsWeb Review", Vol. 1.

No 16, 30 September, 1998, Ann Minter commented about the

improper use on the Internet of living family information which

had originally been provided on the assumption it was private and

that it was not to be disseminated.

 

Publishing such information could have serious effects. Many

people have periods in their lives when they are particularly

vulnerable, due to mental illness, divorce, bankruptcy, being

abused or bullied, drug taking, homelessness, an unwanted

pregnancy, etc. When such people are trying to rebuild their

lives they need all the support they can get from their friends

and relatives. Some people commit suicide simply because they are

irrationally haunted by the idea that everybody is talking about

them behind their backs and they will never be able to escape

from their past. When someone is depressed in this way about

their past difficulties, even quite small indiscretions can set

back their return to a full and normal life. Unnecessary and

inappropriate Internet publication of material that the

emotionally strong might consider as trivial details -- such as a

postal address at the time a relative was a patient in a

psychiatric hospital -- could have a negative effect on their

recovery.

 

It is difficult to gauge the seriousness of indiscriminate

publishing of "vulnerable" personal data on the Internet by

genealogists. For instance, when people are depressed they are

unlikely to make a complaint about something that makes them

worse -- because the very act of complaining reminds them of the

cause of the depression and could send them on a downward spiral

of despair. For this reason overly-enthusiastic, thick-skinned,

"we publish everything for posterity" genealogists may well be

totally unaware of the damage they can cause to their more

sensitive distant living relatives.

 

As well as being a genealogist I am a director of a major mental

health charity, and before I retired I spent about 25 years

studying how people interact with computers. I am currently

collecting information on cases where vulnerable people have

suffered because of actions by genealogist geeks publishing

"unfortunate information" about living relatives. I would be very

interested to have details of any cases known by your readers (by

e-mail, and of course in strict confidence). As the privacy/data

protection laws vary around the world it would help if you

identify the countries involved.

                        Dr. Chris Reynolds <codil@email.msn.com>

 

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Why do people get so bent out of shape about people using their

raw data that they have collected? How many of these people use

the proper citations when they are claiming their research as

their own thing? If there is one thing I learned in College

English 101, it's that there is no original idea. Everything has

a source, and word of mouth doesn't count. If these people want

something they can get credit for, they need to write a book, get

it published, and have the protection of the law in their work.

Many people gather raw data. It doesn't become theirs until they

turn it into something of their own

                            Deanna Pitman <d_pitman@hotmail.com>

 

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Around 10 years ago, I attended a Mexican funeral at the famous

old San Fernando Cathedral in San Antonio, Texas. The priest

offered the following story:

 

"We have a tradition in Mexico that each person dies three times.

First, there is the moment in which the body stops functioning.

Second, there is the time that the remains are consigned to the

grave. Third, there is that moment, sometime in the future, in

which the person's name is spoken for the last time. Then the

person is really gone."

 

Several years later, I got into genealogy and realized that

persons who preserve the memories of persons from their own

familial past, are preventing that third death.

             Ted Klein, Lake Travis, Texas (tedklein@prodigy.com)

 

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GEEK SPEAK. Responding to a reader's request for resumption of

"Geek Speak," Dale "Doc" Schneider <maddoc@rootsweb.com>

forwarded this from Leigh Compton <lcompton@onramp.net>, who

apparently obtained it from the 9 September 1998 "Dummies Daily."

 

UNIX (Tip: rhymes with "tunics"). UNIX, which doesn't really

stand for anything, is the most popular network operating system

in the world, not to mention the operating system used to develop

the Internet and World Wide Web. It's also a real favorite of the

technological elite -- not only because it's very capable but

also because it's a deep, dark, intimidating mystery to the rest

of us. You're never surer of your technical inadequacy than when

you're peering over the shoulder of a UNIX programmer, watching

her type lines of unintelligible code that only she and the

computer understand. 

 

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                  GENEALOGY IS LIKE FISHING

 

       by Doug Smith, senior producer, Palladium Interactive

          <uftree@palladium.net>

 

A thought I had many years ago really struck home. It came to me

that genealogy is a lot like fishing. While I don't fish often, I

know enough from talking to those who do that putting your hook

in the wrong place could be as productive as dropping a hook in a

glass of water. Equally as important as where you fish and how

you bait the hook is having the ultimate patience of a fisherman.

The frustration of losing your bait or watching the catch swim

away prompts the same frustrations a genealogist can have when a

search leads nowhere.

 

Finding the right genealogical information is a lot like locating

the right pond, river, or fishing hole in order to catch a

specific kind of fish. The lure or the bait you choose also makes

a difference.

 

Whenever I have difficulty finding data that I need to establish

a relationship, verify a name, date, or place, I think about

fishing. What would an angler do? It is a humorous and fun way of

keeping the search in perspective.

 

FINDING THE RIGHT POND. Random searches are never as productive

as directed searches. Knowing what you are looking for and why

you need it is as important as the search itself. I drop hooks in

the genealogical pond like this:

 

  -- Place queries in quarterlies and magazines that are most

     likely to be read by potential cousins.

  -- Place queries in libraries in the locations where the people

     that are the subject of my search lived or worked.

  -- Subscribe to genealogical quarterlies in the counties and

     states where the subjects of my searches have lived or died.

 

SELECT THE BAIT. Before you bait your hook study the bait. In

other words a squiggling worm is better than a dead one. If you

know something about the data you have dropped in the pond you

are far more likely to be successful in your search. Analyze the

data you have stored in Ultimate Family Tree. Compare dates with

historical events. Understand the quality of the information you

leave for others to find and leave enough information to affect a

match or attract attention.

 

POWER OF COMPUTERS. The research power included in Ultimate

Family Tree makes your fishing trips far more productive. You

can enter data, retrieve data and print data, but more

importantly you can record the sure level of the data, record

sources of information accurately, attach sources to specific

events, associate events with multiple people and places. Because

you have taken the time and effort to qualify the data, you are

confident of the quality of the information you use and that you

post in queries.

 

The power of computing has helped genealogists become better

organized. Computers have allowed us to analyze data to achieve

results in ways that were not possible just 10 short years ago.

Computers are to genealogy as radar is to fishing, and Ultimate

Family Tree <<a href="http://www.uftree.com" target=_blank>http://www.uftree.com> is the ultimate rod and reel.

 

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HUMOR. Thanks to G. Martin <glmartin@ktis.net> (and others) for

sending the following "Top 10" list, author unknown.

 

         TOP 10 INDICATORS THAT YOU'VE BECOME A GENE-AHOLIC

 

10. You introduce your daughter as your descendent.

 9. You've never met any of the people you send e-mail to, even

    though you're related.

 8. You can recite your lineage back eight generations, but can't

    remember your nephew's name.

 7. You have more photographs of dead people than living ones.

 6. You've ever taken a tape recorder and/or notebook to a family

    reunion.

 5. You've not only read the latest GEDCOM standard, but also you

    understand it.

 4. The local genealogy society borrows books from you.

 3. The only film you've seen in the last year was the 1880

    census index.

 2. More than half of your CD collection is made up of marriage

    records or pedigrees.

 1. Your elusive ancestor has been spotted in more different

    places than Elvis!

 

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Reply-To:"Family History" < >From:"Family History" < > Add to Address BookDate:Fri, 9 Oct 1998 09:28:30 +0100Subject:[CRYAN-L] CRYAN incidentalsTo:CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

 

Hi to everyone, I have been away for a week to Scotland and the Lake

District and so was looking foreward to all the CRYAN mail awaiting my

return  !!! Sadly not a great deal. BUT  a very big thank you to all

those  carrying on the crusade. Very often ,and this is with other lists too, I feel as though I am

reading only part of the conversation and that more is being said/written which

I am not party to. It may be because the correspondance started before I

joined  the list or it may be that some list members are writing to each other

and  only periodically to the list. eg you said earlier that there had been a

discussion about the "FamilyMotto" - I do not know what has been said,

so I  apologise for any repetition........... but on mentioning it to my

brother, he immediately recognised it as part of

the penitential psalm, Psalm 50/51

 "Have mercy on me, O God, in your kindness" in which verse 6  is as

follows"A pure heart create for me ,O God

put a steadfast spirit within me.

Do not cast me away from your presence

nor deprive me from your Holy Spirit."..............

....The Latin text was parallel to this translation. I think that this is a fitting text for a

gravestone anyway but agree that it may have been chosen for the pun

that appears in the Latin. I would think therefore that the family MUST or at least one of

them MUST have been , well educated and versed in Latin. No schoolboy usage

here. I would love to know what was said on the list earlier.

 I would like to make some suggestions:-

    1,  that relevant conversations are carried out on the list, because

often we do not know what we know until someone else's comments unearth

a memory or a resource. Sometimes a suggestion by one or a question by

another can result in a third fi nding that they have the information.

   2,  that requests for look-ups or other information be made to the

list in general rather than privately to individuals because there are lots

of different routes to the source materials. I have never seen anyone so

enthusiastic and as busy as Leslie, she is wonderful , but she can not

be expected to do everything.

   3,  that each list member gives some indication of what they are

doing and where they are interested in. It VERY OFTEN happens that several

months later while doing or reading something unrelated, one finds something

useful and can post it to the appropriate researcher. I know that some of us

belong to other lists which also can produce surprising pieces of information

and cross links. My former boss's motto was "Together we are stronger than

any one of us"  !!!!   What do you think?

  4,   that , and I think that this is MOST important,  everyone makes a

point of acknowledging/saying thank you, for ALL replies made to one's

postings. Another list we belong to has had quite a thorough

correspondance of this point - I would rather it was not necessary, so I say it now. I

know it is very often unintentional, but folk become a little hurt when the

time and trouble are not recognised.

 I think four suggestions are enough :

 My interests:

CRYAN at present Boyle, Drumrat and Kilfree parishes, currently looking

for a birth of John in 1843/4 and a birth of Daniel in 1846/7/8/ and their

parent's marriage. Am gradually creaping nearer by looking at the RC

parish registers. The area of interest is on the border of Co Sligo and Co

Roscommon.  Until again, Eve         - I am trying so hard to keep to my internet

diet , but it is so hard.

 

From:ljstandak@webtv.net (Lyle Staehnke) Add to Address BookDate:Fri, 9 Oct 1998 09:49:03 -0700 (PDT)Subject:Fwd: RE: [CRYAN-L]To:CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Recent letter I sent to A cousin in Austin Texas..And thank`s to every

one for the effort put forth to keep us Cryan`s interested and active in

our reearch!!

From: ljstandak@webtv.net (Lyle Staehnke)

Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 19:44:00 -0700 (PDT)

To: Harvey.Wohlwend@SEMATECH.Org

Subject: RE: [CRYAN-L]

Message-ID: <26733-361D7870-3634@mailtod-141.iap.bryant.webtv.net>

Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=ISO-8859-1

Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-Printable

MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV)

Harvey,  =A0=A0=A0=A0First of all please ask any question you want to,I am very

glad to find someone who is as interested in the Cryan`s family as I

am!! I`m retired so send as many e-mail`s and question`s as you

like,,the more the better.. I had thought you had already read my web

page. Any way here is the url

http://members.tripod.com/~havana_2/index.html  By my reconing Danial

had 14 children by two wives (Margaret McDonagh and Mary Moran) I`ve

found his name to be Danial by many record`s.One way was in Lidgerwood

N.Dak. I went to the Parish Priest a couple year`s ago when I was back

there and asked what records they had on the Cryan`s.They had Thomas

Cryan`s record of him dying august 4 1917,and listed his dad a Danial

Cryan and mother as Mary "Moran" Cryan..Also I have it recorded on the

census of Morrisburg Canada.1851-1861-1871 and 1881 in Stormont

county,Ontario Canada. Michael Cryan was a brother to

Austin,Ellen,James, Thomas,Lucy and Joseph Cryan, Plus half brother to

seven older sibling`s. =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0I am just guessing he left Ireland in 1830,because Maria

Cryan was born in 1831 in Morrisburg Canada and he had two children

before born in Ireland,Martin born in 1823 and John whose birthdate I

don`t know.. So it`s just a guess.. Keep asking question`s and the more

the better, If you could see all the Photo copie`s I have it would be

much easier to grasp,, Lyle

 

From:Fatarm@aol.com Add to Address BookDate:Fri, 9 Oct 1998 16:53:22 EDTSubject:[CRYAN-L] My two centsTo:CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

First, thank you to everyone who subscribed to the list -- not that I'm

done  seeking out interested individuals, but that big push will have to wait

a few days more -- because by doing so we're all a little closer to what we

seek. Second, is everyone else aware that another connection has been made by

Lyleand Harvey with their Dakota Cryans?  I think it's very exciting -- and

also am a little envious.  Thank you, and please continue sharing your

discovery of cousins!

 But before I get carried away, I DO have to recall that not everyone

has the same amount of time to spend o n this part of their genealogy project,

or will be as interested in the same angles of family research that I am.  I

confess to not being so intrigued in my particular Cryans as I am in the general

history of the family group in Ireland and Irish history (at least for

right now).  However, I did advertize the list to many of you with the

phrase, "only generating 3-4 pieces of mail per week just now," and some subscribers

may not appreciate more.

 Last, I think *just about* everyone has posted their research line

[this is another of my not so-subtle hints to get you silent folks to cough-up].

 It might be interesting for some to share more tales of their Cryan

ancestors' lives, in or out of Ireland, to kind-of fill-in the waiting time.  It'd

be fun to continue the informality of this list to try and meet everyone's

needs. And don't worry about thanks -- we're O'Creans, and as such, naturally

gracious!  The last thing I would want to happen is for subscribers to

feel shy about posting, worrying about how polished their phrases are, or

being nervous about its reception.

--- Let's face it!  I'm thrilled to think people are even reading our

postings! --- But I'm new at this and very open to direction, so please continue the

dialogue about this (it helps me think about what I'd like to get out

of this list, as I'm sure it does for others) -- Leslie (perhaps I would have

been better named Bridget so that you all could call me 'Biddy')

 

Reply-To:"Family History" < >From:"Family History" < > Add to Address BookDate:Sat, 10 Oct 1998 20:49:06 +0100Subject:[CRYAN-L] Re Parliamentary Gazeteer extractTo:CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

 

 

Kathy, Hi,

As a Catholic Parish, Glounthaune will not be an independent entry, the

book only contains civil parishes and other villages and towns. Many of the

names of parishes particularly RC parishes do not relate to any settlement

,so the first reqirement is to find civil parish and settlement

(village/town/townland). Townland, which is a subdivision of a civil

parishis often a good basis for a search, and there are a couple of good

"Townland Search" sites  1) Ireatlas which list all townlands in the

area  specified (PLU, county, barony, parish)   2) Irish Times Ancestor

search of places which has several ways to search - all Ireland or restricted to

county in which on can select by PLU,barony,parish or townland or even

better by selections of letters which appear in the name. I have used

both and in no 2 selected by gl...nt..ne with 14 results, none your spelling

only 2 in Cork PLU.

Next time I have access to the book I will look up both Middleton and

Cork,town and county names and see if anything useful turns up.

The following are the URLs for you to use

  Ireatlas  http://www.thecore.com/cgi-bin/ire-srch/

Irish Times Ancestor Search  http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/

List of Catholic Parishes by county (not complete)

http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Parthenon/5327/parishes.htm

Until again, take care, Eve

-----Original Message-----

From: Kathleen A Craine <K-Craine@neiu.edu>

To: Family History < >

Date: 28 September 1998 18:23

Subject: Re:Parliamentary Gazetteer extract

 

 

>Eve:

>>Well, I guess I'm a little backwards in my directions.

>I've consulted my "Tracing Your Irish Ancestors" by John Grenham.  On

page >xvii is a map of Cork-East.  Glounthaune is a Catholic parish bordering

>the north end of Cork Harbor, just *east* of Cork City.  It's about

>halfway between Cork City and Midleton.  There are two Glountane

listings, >but these are not the parishes I'm interested in.  My ancestor's grave

>clearly spells out Glounthaune as her parish of origin.

>>If you have any information about this parish, I'd greatly appreciate

it. >>Thanks.  >Kathy

>On Sat, 26 Sep 1998, Family History wrote:

>> Hi Kathleen, I shall check on a townland search to see if there are

any >> other possibilities. But what do you mean "just N-NW of the city of

Cork">> because Mallow is only about 20miles N of Cork and Glantaine or

variation is

>> marked on my map to be SW of this. Until again ,Eve

>> -----Original Message-----

>> From: Kathleen A Craine <K-Craine@neiu.edu>

>> To: Family History < >

>> Date: 25 September 1998 14:57

>> Subject: Re: [CRYAN-L] Re ;Parliamentary Gazetteer extract

>> >Eve: >> >Thanks, but I don't think that's the Glounthaune I'm looking for.

The >> >parish my ancestors were from is just W-NW of the city of Cork.

>> > >> >thanks anyway.>> >Kathleen Craine>> >Office of Financial Aid

>> >Northeastern Illinois University

>> >Chicago, IL

 

From:"Wendy Evans" <wendyevans@bigpond.com> Add to Address BookDate:Sat, 10 Oct 98 18:00:57 PDTSubject:[CRYAN-L] Thomas CRAWN/CRAUN/CRAHAN/CROUGHANTo:CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Hello to everyone,

I thought that it was time that I posted my family details.  I have

been told that my ancestor had eleven variations on the spelling

of his name during his lifetime..  I have listed just a few of them.

I am looking for information on my 5xgreat grandfather Thomas

CRAWN/CRAUN/CRAHAN/CROUGHAN (among other variations

of the name).  He was tried at Dublin in December 1791 and sentenced

to 7 years transportation.  He arrived aboard the "Boddington" in New

South Wales where he served most of his sentence and was sent to

Norfolk Island aboard the "Marquis Cornwallis" in May 1796.  While on

Norfolk Island he married Mary MONKS who also had been tried in Dublin

and sentenced to transportation and arrived in New South Wales aboard

the "Marquis Cornwallis".  She only stayed in NSW a few days and was sent

to  Norfolk Island aboard the "Radiance".

 Thomas and Mary and five children were sent to Van Dieman's Land

(Tasmania) when the first convict settlement on Norfolk Island was disbanded in

 

 new file ‘emcry2.doc’ [LAST PRINTED PAGE IS 86 BEGINNING ‘FROM RUTH K 3834 [22 OCT] AND ENDING WITH [23 OCT] ‘ WHETTED MY CURIOSITY -LESLIE’]

 

December 1807.  They settled in New Norfolk, Van Dieman's Land and had another

two children.  They did not stay out of trouble however as Thomas was

arrested and was tried in September 1817 for sheep stealing with his eldest son

Thomas junior.  They were sentenced to death but that was commuted to a life sentence

after a petition was sent  to the Lieutenant-Governor on their behalf.  They

were both sent to Newcastle and Thomas senior received his ticket of leave after he was

one of thoseselected to go and retrieve a government boat that had been stolen and

wrecked by runaway convicts.  In later years Thomas had trouble proving that he

had in fact received his ticket of leave as there was some confusion over the various

spelling of his name. Mary was also in trouble - once for being drunk for which she was fined

five shillings and another

case was dismissed. Another two of their sons - James and John - were arrested for stealing

ten pigsand were sentenced to seven years.

The children of Thomas and Mary:- Thomas

James (1798-1848) married Rebecca Cox

Catherine (1802-1833) married Henry Cresswell

John (1804-1857) married Sarah Rowley  (my line)

Michael (1807-1822)

David (1809-1847) married Sarah Morgan

Orison (1811-?)

If anybody could shed some light on this CRAWN/CRAUN etc

family, I would be happy to hear from you.

Wendy  in Queensland, Australia  wendyevans@bigpond.com

 

  From:        Fatarm@aol.comAdd to Address Book

   Date:        Wed, 14 Oct 1998 15:31:06 EDT

I don't know if you've already seen this site, but when I saw it, I

thought ofyou N.Dakota Cryan researchers:  web.nstar.net/~dwat6911/dat9.htm

<A HREF="http://web.nstar.net/~dwat6911/dat9.htm">Genealogy Data</A>

 

   Date:        Wed, 14 Oct 1998 16:11:47 -0700 (PDT)

  From:        Caoimhghin O Croidheain

        <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>Add to Address Book Subject:        [CRYAN-L] lorton estate

    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

The Lorton Papers are in a couple ofold trunks in a back room inRoscommon County Library. They contain family paper seg Lortongenealogies and tenant papers- mainly rent books and leases signed by

tenants. I found a standard lease signed by my greatx2 grandfatherJohn Cryan for 1876 and a full rental history from that date to 1905when he died mainly in the form of entries in large rent books.Access

is no problem - I was left to my own devices for a full day goingthrough the material and allowed to photocopy anything I wanted  - thestaff are great. Its possible that if you wrote to them they might

spend the time going through the stuff for you .....

Caoimhghin O Croidheain

 

 Reply-To:          "Family History" < >

Date:          Thu, 15 Oct 1998 08:43:35 +0100

  Subject:          [CRYAN-L] Re Lorton papers

      To:          CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Thank you, Caoimhghin, for the information on the Lorton papers. I hadassumed that they were in the National Library as they had a librarymanuscript number or are there others? Perhaps Michael will enjoy

looking atthem, if he can get there sometime, now we know they exist. Can youtell us

where the library is? Is it in Roscommon town itself or is it in Boyleorelsewhere?

 

==== CRYAN Mailing List ====

Have you come across a Crean while doing Croghan research?  List it

here: cryan-L@rootsweb.com

 

  From:        "Cook, Jonathan A (HUK)" <cookja3@texaco.com>Add

Date:        Thu, 15 Oct 1998 03:20:01 -0500

 Subject:        [CRYAN-L] CRYAN IN CO. SLIGO

    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Can you help?  Regarding any information on Cryan's 1901 or 1911 census

returns.  Irish births and marriages.Any info on a Patrick Cryan-Margaret Walsh (Welsh) marriage between

1900-1920 either in Co. Sligo or Manchester, England?Info on me, my family originated in Co. Sligo probably Keash Parish(Toomoor).  Pat Cryan-Mary Judge (Breheny) in 1840 approx., they had at

least 3 children John, Patrick and Owen.  They emigrated to Glasgow,

Scotland in 1870.Many thanks,Patrick Cryans.

 

 

  From:        Julie_Case@prodigy.com (MS JULIA M CASE)Add to

        Address Book   Date:        Thu, 15 Oct 1998 14:41:36, -0500

 Subject:        RootsWeb Review, Vol. 1, No. 18

ROOTSWEB REVIEW: Genealogical Data Cooperative News

Vol. 1, No. 18, 14 October 1998; Circulation: 219,500+

Copyright (c) 1998 RootsWeb Genealogical Data Cooperative

NEW WEB SITES: Some of these might not yet be accessible. If one

that interests you isn't up yet, please check again in a few days

or a week. <http://www.rootsweb.com/~<accountname> (the ~[tilde]

before the name is required) will work for most of the following.

If not, you will find most of them at the USGenWeb Project

<http://www.usgenweb.org> or the WorldGenWeb Project

<http://www.worldgenweb.org>. For example, to visit the Sri Lanka

site, go to: <http://www.rootsweb.com/~srilanka/>

 

HUMOR. Thanks to Charles Hansen <mxph25a@prodigy.com>, who

forwarded this list of acronyms posted way back in May on a

Prodigy Classic bulletin board by Melanie Nickel.

 

ISDN      - It Still Does Nothing

APPLE     - Arrogance Produces Profit-Losing Entity

SCSI      - System Can't See It

DOS       - Defective Operating System

BASIC     - Bill's Attempt to Seize Industry Control

IBM       - I Blame Microsoft

DEC       - Do Expect Cuts

CD-ROM    - Consumer Device, Rendered Obsolete Monthly

OS/2      - Obsolete Soon, Too.

WWW       - World Wide Wait

MACINTOSH - Most Applications Crash; If Not, The Operating

            System Hangs

PENTIUM   - Produces Erroneous Numbers Through Incorrect

            Understanding of Math

COBOL     - Completely Obsolete Business Oriented Language

AMIGA     - A Merely Insignificant Game Addiction

LISP      - Let's Insert Some Parentheses

MIPS      - Meaningless Indication of Processor Speed

WINDOWS   - Will Install Needless Data On Whole System

MICROSOFT - Most Intelligent Customers Realize Our Software 

            Only Fools Teenagers

 

  From:        Fatarm@aol.comAdd to Address Book

   Date:        Fri, 16 Oct 1998 10:42:14 EDT

 Subject:        [CRYAN-L] Research and web site on searching in

        religious orders

I'm sharing some information below that may not be of interest to many,

butassuming that most of us had Catholic ancestors, it may be of interest

tosome.

My Cryan ancestor's older sister became a nun (Katherine Cryan), and as

thefollowing helpful advice from another researcher points out, its often

quitepossible to find information on such an ancestor if one knows something

aboutthe order to begin with or a location.  Still, I'd love to hear from

anyoneelse who has traced such an aunt or uncle, and of their experience and

advice.

Here's the advice I've received:

<<We successfully located the present mother house for a gggaunt who

was alsoa nun, two of them were nuns, in fact. Knowing the religious order is

thefirst hurdle. We were fortunate in that my grandmother had left notes

withsome family history which mentioned the order the sisters belonged to.

<<We also knew the state in which the sister resided. That helped, too.

Iwould think that if you know the religious order, you can contact them

and askthem for help in locating your ancestor. I've done that with a priest

ancestorand one priest archivist took the time to look up my great-uncle's name

in adirectory of priests from that period and sent me the dates and

parishes whichhe served.

<<The religious order sent me a letter with all known information on

the twonuns who had first gone to the order as orphans in the orphanage run by

theorder and later professed their vows. The information included dates and

places of birth, parents'names, when they entered the orphanage, when

theytook their final vows, their dates of death and where they were buried.

<<If you don't know the order, I would try to find out where and when

theydied (perhaps a death index search) and see if you can find an obituary

whichwould list the religious order.

-Penny B.

*************************************

A USGENweb page for research into N.American Catholic Genealogy

 <A HREF="http://home.att.net/~mensch-family/CatholicRecords-index.htm">

LocalCatholic Church History and Genealogy R...</A>

Lastly, any of you presently-in-Ireland folks have any advice for

locating apriest/nun in Ireland today?  How about those of you Down Under? Or in

Canada?Have a great weekend all, Leslie

 

  From:        "Michael Tobin" <tobinmi@hotmail.com>Add to Address

        Book   Date:        Sat, 17 Oct 1998 03:09:13 PDT

 Subject:        [CRYAN-L] partial map of Keash

Hello there,I've temporarily made a piece of the map of Sligo which I spoke about

in an earlier post, available on my Web site http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Ranch/2926/keash.jpg

This copy is totally unauthorised of course, but I just might get away with it as I'm not linking it from my Web site, as its only there temporarily, and as its an advertisement for others to buy the whole

map. Its part of the Discovery Series of maps produced by the OrdnanceSurvey of Ireland. The one in question is map number 25. Unfortunately, itdoes not extend as far south as Boyle and hence does not include all of the Keash parish (and doesn't include the townland of Carrowcrory which I

had thought would be on it). I don't have the map for this part, butits number 33 and will be available from the Ordance Survey Office ( http://www.irlgov.ie:80/osi/Pages/maps/discovry.htm ).

These maps cost about £5 each. There are 89 different maps whichbetween them cover the whole country. Not all of the maps in the Discovery Series are available yet, but I'm sure if you email them, you'll find out which ones are not yet available.When I last enquired about availablity of some specific maps, they told

me that map 32 would not be available until November and map 33 until December. From memory, they said that all maps would be available by January, 1999.

RegardsMichaelMichael Tobin

http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Ranch/2926/

 

  From:        "Michael Tobin" <tobinmi@hotmail.com>Add to Address

        Book   Date:        Sat, 17 Oct 1998 03:11:54 PDT

 Subject:        [CRYAN-L] Re: The CRYANs of Keash/Kesh/Drumrat

Eve and Kevin

Thanks for all the detail you posted on Keash and Lorton. I hope to go to Boyle at some stage to look at the Lorton papers, but it may not be for a while yet. An elderly relative told me that many Keash farmers

who feared going to the local landlord with the rent, used to ask my gg-grandfather John Cryan to take it to the landlord for them. John had no problem with this, but used to make surethat he always wore his oldest clothes when going - just in case the landlord decided that he should pay more rent! This elderly relative

thought that the landlord's office was in Boyle, so it might well have been Lorton.

Eve, all of that Griffith's information is going to be very useful. Wouldn't it be nice to proceed to link all the Cryans of that area to each other and bring it down to 4 or 5 distinct families. I'd guessthat

many of the 20 or so Cryans listed in Griffiths in the general Keash area were probably part of no more than 4 or 5 extended families when you take account of first and second cousins and all that. If we ever

got to that stage, then by a process of elimination, it might be possible to figure out who was who's ancestor.Given that this area, coupled with Boyle, seems to be the Cryan heartland, this might be useful to many current or future Cryan researchers.I mentioned before that I think that the generation before my

gg-grandfather John Cryan, was Matthew Cryan and Briget Hannon, married in Keash in 1844. I still haven't confirmed this and a cousin of minein Keash feels that it might not be the case. However, I know for a fact

that there was a close Hannon connection with my family prior to my gg-grandfather's generation, so that marriage seems the most likely.One problem is that I haven't yet found the birth record for my gg-grandfather even though the Keash records go back far enough. He was born around 1845. The records started around about that time. I'm considering the possibility that he was registered somewhere else -

maybe in Ballymote or in Boyle. There was a Mathew Cryan in Tonrapona for Griffith's Valuation - I had previously thought it very likely that he was mine. I see from your Griffith's information Eve that there were

2 more Matthew Cryan's in Keash at that time also - something for me to work on.

I located my notes that I mentioned in my last post, that I had made earlier in the year on a trip to Keash. I am currently typing them up, but there is one that you will probably be particularly interested in

Eve [or perhaps you are already aware of it and have discounted it] - a marriage record for Daniel Cryan and Maria Breheny dated 3 February 1842. The witnesses were Patrick Breheny and John Cryan. It does not

indicate what townland they were from. I didn't make any notes of their children - even though I had a lot of time on that particular day to look at the Cryan records, there were so many births there that I only

had time to note the ones that I knew were of my own family. Sometime I hope to go back and complete the task and note the other births. There is also a marraige record for a James Cryan and a Maria Cryan dated 8

February 1844 and the witnesses were John Cryan and Daniel Cryan.Hope this is helpful.

RegardsMichael

 

   Date:        Mon, 19 Oct 1998 11:29:44 -0700    To:        caoimhghin@yahoo.com

  From:        Jean Rice <jeanrice@cet.com>Add to Address Book Subject:        Cryan database

Dear Kevin, While I do not have family that I know of named Cryan - my family'ssurnamewas Ford(e)/Ford from Drumshanbo, Co. Leitrim - I must say that I reallyadmire you for setting up your Cryan database.  I purchased an IrishRootsmagazine (1998) second-hand from a lady here in Spokane, Washington,

USA,and read your article.  I think it is a truly wonderful idea!.  Are you aware of any such projects for Forde/Ford?  Would you have atelephone/address CD for that Forde/Ford in Co. Leitrim? 

My mother's maiden name was Sweany, her family in Maryland by the1800s; Ihaven't begun genealogy on her surname.  Possibly, from McSweeny clansinMayo or Donegal. 

My father's Forde/Ford family left Co. Leitrim and settled in Liverpoolbetween 1865 and 1881.  When my father's father, Michael, fell off aladderand broke his neck the family immigrated to the Portland, OR area in

1925via Canada.  Michael was a "slaterer", and I am guessing that that is aperson who puts slate roofs on, do you have any idea?Kevin, please do not think I am trying to use you for information.  I

justwanted, really, to tell you what a service you have provided the Cryanfamilies, and I would be interested in hearing how many of your 650worldwide letters sent a response. 

I have only been on the Internet for a couple months, but I have hadlucknot only finding information on my family surnames but also matchingqueries in various periodicals (mostly non-Internet) with Internet

researchers.  This is my hobby.Could you tell me if "Irish Roots" magazine is still being published?

Areyou aware of a USA distributor?  It is a lovely, informative magazine.I shall probably never see Ireland, but it is in my heart.I have been reading about the terrible potato famine, listening to yourlovely music.  I have read the wonderful new books, Angela's Ashes, byFrank McCourt and Famine Ships by Edward Laxton. 

May those who

love us, love us

And those that

don't love us,

May God turn

their hearts:

And if he doesn't

turn their hearts

May he turn

their ankles

So we will know them

by their limping

 

Jean Rice

3303 East 15th Avenue

Spokane, WA 99223

USA

 

 Reply-To:          "Family History" < >Date:          Tue, 20 Oct 1998 01:24:35 +0100

  Subject:          [CRYAN-L] Name variations and more from Boyle          Register      To:          CRYAN-L@rootsweb.comHello everyone,

You have been quiet this weekend so I thought that I would share thiswithyou.I spent a few hours looking at the Boyle RC Parish Records on film theotherday at my local FHC before they closed for two weeks - Ah me!Lack-a-day!As I have mentioned before ,they are in Latin and rather difficult toreadeverything because much of the ink has faded,or the handwriting issmall,very small(I guess paper was expensive and hard to come by) or thehandwriting is just difficult to read with squggles or ambiguous letters

etc. After quite a time reading the names almost aloud I found thatmany ofthe names became familiar but were spelt as heard and when the samename wasrepeated by a different hand the spelling varied but it sounded thesame.Put on an Irish accent and say these out loud, I find there is not much

difference

Galaher         could this be Galagher - fairly obvious

Birn.............Byrne

Biern(e).......Behan?

Commons....Cummins?

Tyenon........Tiernon?

Kocki..........Coghey?  now say

Grehan..Green/Pronounced Gre en, Crehan, Crean/pronounced Cre an, Cryan,

Krine (don't forget the accent)!!  Do you see the similarity.The spelling variations were emphasised when I came across the twofollowingentries :-

2March 1793 (born 27thFeb) Michael Cryan & Bridgit

Dannilan..........Maria/Mary                                         witnesses/godparents James

Dannilan(Kilaraght)& Maria Brennan

23 July 1795           Michael Krine & BrigitDonelan............Winifred

                             witnesses/godparents Martin Cox &Johanna

McDermott

I think that the parents at these baptisms are one and the same. What

do youthink??

To add to the list that I have given before............

Baptisms:-

5Feb1793  Patrick Brennan & Cecelia Grehan......... Michael

                w    Michael Grehan & Margaret Bourke

3March 1793 Timothy Higgins & Mary Cregan......Mary

                w Patrick McHugh & Mary Bern

22March 1793  John Green & Mary Farrill..........Elizabeth

                witnesses/godparents abrieviated to w   Elizabeth

Spollani(?)

13 April1793 Carolo(??) Grahan &Honoria McHugh........Michael

                w Peter McHugh & Bridgit Dyer

14 Aug 1793 Martin Cryan & Mary Mullanny......Winifred

                   w Michael McDermott & Susanna McEtuliff(?)

6Sept 1794 Andrew Maddin & Sara Hana.........Peter

                   w Peter Grehan & Sara Grehan

13 Sept 1794   Patrick Hannon & Bridgit McCox...........Paul

                    w Robert Cryan & Matilda Sythe (?)

...............LESLIEALERT !!!!!!!!!!!!

30 Sept 1794 John Hammon & Eleanora Cryan......Twins Joanna(I think but

could be John)(1) & Richard(2)                     w (1) James Worott(?) & Elizabeth Donovan;(2) PeterMurphy & Anne Lyons

26Dec1794  John Sharkott & Catherine Grehan........Mary

                     w Patrick Brennan & Sarah Grehan

2Feb1795   Patrick Cryan & Catherine Bruen........James

                     w Bridgit Brennan

7 Feb1795   Eugene Grehan & Margaret Connellan.....Eugene

                   John Conlan & Hilary Tyenon  (could this father beEugeneCryan of Feb 1793?) (should Margaret and John have the same surname?)The question marks are how I read the spellings which do not seem quite

right to me.Until again , Eve

16 Sept 1794 Laurence Keogh & Honoria Bridiken (?)...........Honoria

                    w Bernard McHugh & Bridgit Cryan

 

  From:        Fatarm@aol.comAdd to Address Book

   Date:        Mon, 19 Oct 1998 21:46:13 EDT

    To:        caoimhghin@yahoo.com

 Subject:        All received

Thank you so very much for all the information.  I've just completed my"holiday" - driving about 1900 miles total and visiting all sorts ofrelations.  I feel totally overwhelmed by the piles of mail accumulated

overthe last two weeks (and I'm not even looking in my inbox for emailtonight!).Nonetheless, I'm looking forward to a good read tonight, thanks to you(I'vealready skimmed, now to read).  Please send your snail mail addressagain sothat I may reciprocate with a few poor offerings of my own for yourfiles.By the way, is it alright if I post some/all of the info?  Is that whatyouwere intending, or just into my dbase?  I ask because although muchseems tobe public info, you're the one to have put all the sweat and labor into

accumulating it.Lastly, I'd love to hear of your Grandfather's connection to MichaelCollinsas referenced in The Kerryman's recent article.  I just finishedMacKay'sbiography of Collins not too long ago ... but, as always, only if yourtimepermits.  I can wait!  Leslie

 

From:        Fatarm@aol.comAdd to Address Book   Date:        Mon, 19 Oct 1998 21:52:38 EDT

 Subject:        [CRYAN-L] Back and swamped

I'm back from my mini-tour (nearly 2000 miles logged in!), but am a bitswamped with the recent postings, updating my database, and some newinfo justreceived.  Plus about 4 people are waiting to find out from me whethertheyhave a tie-in to our surname or database.  Have I mentioned that I'mwell over800 names in the database now and quickly surging towards 1000?  I needtospend some time sorting, proofing, and just plain ole organizing,however, sodon't expect much from me this week.  Just wanted to let any of you who

arewaiting for some change to occur via me that I'll be onto it nowshortly ....

Leslie

"Family History" < >Add to

Subject:          Re: [CRYAN-L] Back and swamped

    Date:          Tue, 20 Oct 1998 08:56:08 +0100

      To:          CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Welcome back ,Leslie.

I hope you enjoyed your break and are not too tired by all that driving.From here one could get well in to Africa on 2000 miles - wow !It sounds as if you are a standing in for the computor server if you are

swamped with mail. None of the rest of us have received any , whichratherdefeats the point of the list and to say the least is ratherdisappointing.Other lists work on the basis of "post your queries to the list and

reply tothe list" I do not know if others agree?I must admit I do not know how the list works, in that I know that thelistowner monitors all the messages but how, I do not know. Do theyphysically have to send each message on ? Or is it an automaticprocess?  Itseems that it is the former if nothing appears when the listowner isaway .If it is the latter then possibly something is not working if nothingappears.

Anyway, that means a doubly welcome back,for yourself and to geteverythingkick started again !!!   Eve

 

From:        Fatarm@aol.comAdd to Address Book

   Date:        Tue, 20 Oct 1998 12:58:26 EDT

 Subject:        [CRYAN-L] List administration explained

I guess the reaction to my quickie message last night proves that theyarerarely effective:  no, no!  I'm swamped by the mail from *other* lists! IALWAYS read my Cryan mail first -- it's my husband's loquacious

huguenot andAm. southern roots as well as a few of the Irish lists I'meavesdropping infor info to post here that generate too much mail [if interested, checkoutthe General Ireland or Roscommon lists through rootsweb].  Between themandsome inquiries I sent round to potential subscribers to the list, I'll be busy

for a few days.  You know me, always looking for someone else to come   join  us...  Then add in all the great information shared by the list in the past few weeks, and you can see a great need to update the data files I'm keeping (to help others connect in).  But perhaps it's time to explain how this started.  Literally, I

donated $24 to rootsweb so that I may host two mailing lists and some other perks for a year, and then began the list.  That's all there was to it, and anyone can do  it.  I had already been introduced to Caoimhghin (Kevin), and using his list of researchers with email addresses I contacted many of you to see if

you would be interested in subscribing to a list.  [Subscription, btw, as you probably already know, costs nothing]  And I searched around various genealogy sites and home pages I came across for others who might be interested in sharing research, etc.

 As to "owning" the list, as rootsweb calls it, I think it's a misnomer.  Yes,I am the only one who can get to the list of subscribers, but that's to protect from spammers.  I won't share the list, on my honor, but I'm

sure anyone getting these messages could easily reconstruct the subscriptionlist merely by noting who posts messages.  I'm more of an administrator, because I have no control over what gets posted to this list by any subscriberand yetneed to make sure things are going smoothly.  The messages do not go

through me first, but are automatically sent by the rootsweb server.  A great littleservice, no?  Much better than an email loop where everyone has to keep abreast of changes in email addresses and comings and goings. The only messages I get apart from those sent to the rest of you are (1)subscribe/unsubscribe messages - I send a separate welcome message and try and relay a few of the most recent emails so that newbies can jump right   n; (2) spam detected and not sent on messages; (3) misfires - messages sent to

almost the right place, but due to the fact that many folks type like I do, sometimes  don't quite fit the protocol/address, and rootsweb is smart enough to  send them on to me (I correct or send back to sender with corrections).  I maintain our "taglines" -- those little bits after someone's email (I'm happy to

change any and all, should changes be suggested).  I also receive replies to my individual inquiries as I search the net for others to join us.  Cryan-L is a "closed list", meaning only subscribers to the list can

post to   the list.  Again, this is to prevent spamming.  It's a good thing, too- I've received 6 messages from the rootsweb server since we began saying it   deterred spam.  So spam is certainly trying, but we're fairly well protected.  Anyone can add or delete themselves -- spammers just don't tend to because

it's more trouble and time than is profitable, lucky for us!  The only true administrative "power" I have is the ability to prevent an individual subscription, namely for preventing flamers from clogging up our

mailboxes with their nonsense [I would first unsubscribe them then prevent theirresubscribing].  I have never used this and don't intend to unless a sizeable portion of the subscribers request it.  I'm one of those computer geeks who find censorship rather abhorrent, nor do I see our family group as soexclusive (you should see what I'm dealing with to have my husband's relationship to the Clan Scott verified!!) as to deny even remotely possible relationships.

So enjoy the list.  If anyone disagrees with the format of the list, please complain.  But content is not my fault, other than my own postings  ;) As to the volume, the last few weeks have seen more volume than

probably the previous month.  From newbie subscribers I've detected a lot of enthusiasm to finally have found a forum to try out their research and to read of  others' with a similar bent.  I'm sorry if it's harder on the folks who've been doing this a long time, but I think many of us newbies are catching up quickly,

thanks to your advice. Lastly, sorry for being so windy -- Leslie

 

 

Date:        Tue, 20 Oct 1998 09:58:27 -0700 (PDT)

  From:        Caoimhghin O Croidheain <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>Add to

        Address Book Subject:

        [CRYAN-L] cryan genealogies

hiThis is an unfinished list of cryan genealogies

CRYAN GENEALOGIES

 

J.G. Cryan,14 Shellmoor Avenue,Patchway,Bristol BS12 6AD (6-1-97)

Andrew Cryan (Cork, b.c1850) m. Elizabeth Lunniss (London).

Children - Arthur, Thomas (2 daughters -never married) and Harry (3

sons, 2 survive-author and brother in Canada)

 

Adele Cryan,142 Woodland Drive,North Anston,Nr.Sheffield,S.Yorkshire

S31 7JT

Ggfather Patrick Cryan(b.1880 Sligo>England) m. Bertha Fisher (7

children)

Mary Cryan (sibling of Patrick, Sligo>US>England) m. Brian Horan.

Maggie Cryan(sibling of Patrick, Sligo,Caracurieor Caracrurie,) m.

O'Connor (lived in Ballina fad)

 

Thomas W. Cryan,66 Runyonrd.,Clifton,New Jersey 07013-2710, USA

Martin Cryan(Carrowreagh)m.Mary Corcoran(Seafin,Cloonloo, Boyle)

Son - Thomas William Cryan (b.12-1-89, Keash, Ballymote.>USA c.1917)

 

  From:        Fatarm@aol.comAdd to Address Book

   Date:        Tue, 20 Oct 1998 13:20:29 EDT

    To:        caoimhghin@yahoo.com

 Subject:        Re: Re: All received

Caoimhghin, you really are great to share all the info.  Give me a few days to start posting it, however, because I've already lost another day dealing with Eve's email to the list.  Oy - I hate misunderstandings.  She posts wonderful things to the list, but she really doesn't seem to like me!  Oh well - it'll probably turn out that we're second cousins or something.  Maybe that's what I'll wish upon her -- it'd serve her right.

I'm the one with the Robert, so thanks.  His dates are funky to fit with my Robert, but there were all sorts of Roberts in the papers you sent.  I'll start to sort it out later.  I'm likely to move in the next 3 months,

and am avoiding the FHCs until I've got a more permanent address/city.  I'll keep myself busy with the list until then.  I'll quick look through old email for 11-13th Oct.  No, I don't save all -- I  often just separately record names, dates, locations etc. w/ researcher's info.  I need a new print driver so I only print when I visit my parents, like on this last trip.  So some stuff I save to print, others are justravaged for what I want.  It'd be neat to do something with all this someday, but don't have time to even think that all the way through just now.  I'm going to put together a little something for my grandmom for Xmas, but haven't gotten

started.  I'm about to enter my post-Halloween panic, to which will be added the bonus of house hunting (with any luck) this year.  But I'mblathering now,  so I'll let you go - Leslie

 

  From:        Fatarm@aol.comAdd to Address Book

   Date:        Tue, 20 Oct 1998 13:24:11 EDT

    To:        caoimhghin@yahoo.com

 Subject:        Collins

 

P.S.  The MacKay book briefly touched the London period of Collinslife, butmostly to talk about his drinking and then sobering and getting caughtup inthe Gaelic move.  Unless of course you are referring to the treatynegotiationperiod, in which time Collins hung out with a more British crowd.  My

readinglist is thick just now -- am reading a collection of essays about IrishNationalism c. 1989 (deals a bit with language and folklore, too,actually --I'll send the full title and all later in case you're interested) and

CharlesStuart's Blacklist Section H.  But am looking forward to your posting onbooks, thanks.

From:        Fatarm@aol.comAdd to Address Book

   Date:        Tue, 20 Oct 1998 13:25:40 EDT

    To:        caoimhghin@yahoo.com

 Subject:        Fwd: Celtic Genealogy Screen Saver, Links, Cregan

                   Attachment: Forwarded Message

  From:        Fatarm@aol.com    To:        cryan-L@rootsweb.com

 Subject:        Celtic Genealogy Screen Saver, Links, Cregan

   Date:        Tue, 13 Oct 1998 15:35:35 EDT

Yes, it's true, you can get your own personal O'Crean screen saver

through thesite: www.genealogy.ie/celticorigins/screensave.html.  They also seemto have

their favorite Link to Links type page.  Below is the hotlink (I got onemessage from a subscriber saying they got nonsense instead of a hotlinkwhensent through rootsweb, so I'm going to put them at the bottom of my

emailsfrom now on).The second link I have for you is regarding the Irish Genealogical

Society,International.  It connects through rootsweb, but don't be surprised to

findit linking you all over the web: www.rootsweb.com/~irish/Again, the hotlink is below.  Is anyone subscribed to this list amember?  Iask because I saw a Crean, a Cryan and a Cregan on one of their lists of

surname the IGSI members are interested in.  I'd love to email members3307,3851, 2726 and 1960 just to let them know our mailing list exists, incasethey'd be interested.

Check out www.cpamom.com/mwc/profile.htm for information on a Creganresearcher.  I've just sent off an email to invite Mr. Cregan to joinus, butin the meantime, his page is interesting.Lastly, and I'm still not sure of how this site is organized (but Ihave toget offline now), See www.capecod.net/~abeagan/b1865.htm, for a fewscatteredpostings about  Creaghan, Creighan, Creehan, Creenan, Crehan.  Thismight justbe what it's titled, "Genealogy Notes".

<A

HREF="http://www.genealogy.ie/celticorigins/screensave.html">Screensaver

Names</A>

<A HREF="http://www.rootsweb.com/~irish/">Irish Genealogy on the Web by

 IGSI

</A>

<A HREF="http://www.cpamom.com/mwc/profile.htm">About Michael W. Cregan

</A>

<A HREF="http://www.capecod.net/~abeagan/b1865.htm">Genealogy Notes of

PEI

1865-1900</A>

Go Raith Maith Agat - - "Thank You" -- for all the really great postsof late.Leslie

P.S.  I lifted the gaelic thank you -- it'd serve me right if it saidsomething about the sayer!, so if I've gotten it wrong, let me know....

From:        ljstandak@webtv.net (Lyle Staehnke)

   Date:        Fri, 9 Oct 1998 09:49:03 -0700 (PDT)

 Subject:        Fwd: RE: [CRYAN-L]

    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Recent letter I sent to A cousin in Austin Texas..And thank`s to every

one for the effort put forth to keep us Cryan`s interested and active in

our reearch!!

From: ljstandak@webtv.net (Lyle Staehnke)

Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 19:44:00 -0700 (PDT)

To: Harvey.Wohlwend@SEMATECH.Org

Subject: RE: [CRYAN-L]

 

Harvey,

 =A0=A0=A0=A0First of all please ask any question you want to,I am veryglad to find someone who is as interested in the Cryan`s family as Iam!! I`m retired so send as many e-mail`s and question`s as you

like,,the more the better.. I had thought you had already read my webpage. Any way here is the url

http://members.tripod.com/~havana_2/index.html  By my reconing Danialhad 14 children by two wives (Margaret McDonagh and Mary Moran) I`vefound his name to be Danial by many record`s.One way was in LidgerwoodN.Dak. I went to the Parish Priest a couple year`s ago when I was backthere and asked what records they had on the Cryan`s.They had ThomasCryan`s record of him dying august 4 1917,and listed his dad a DanialCryan and mother as Mary "Moran" Cryan..Also I have it recorded on thecensus of Morrisburg Canada.1851-1861-1871 and 1881 in Stormontcounty,Ontario Canada. Michael Cryan was a brother toAustin,Ellen,James, Thomas,Lucy and Joseph Cryan, Plus half brother toseven older sibling`s. =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0I am just guessing he left Ireland in 1830,because MariaCryan was born in 1831 in Morrisburg Canada and he had two childrenbefore born in Ireland,Martin born in 1823 and John whose birthdate Idon`t know.. So it`s just a guess.. Keep asking question`s and the morethe better, If you could see all the Photo copie`s I have it would bemuch easier to grasp,,Lyle

 

From:        Fatarm@aol.comAdd to Address Book   Date:        Tue, 20 Oct 1998 13:29:14 EDT    To:

        caoimhghin@yahoo.com Subject:        Fwd: [CRYAN-L] ThomasFrom:

     

  "Wendy Evans" <wendyevans@bigpond.com>

   Date:        Sat, 10 Oct 98 18:00:57 PDT Subject:        [CRYAN-L] Thomas        CRAWN/CRAUN/CRAHAN/CROUGHAN

    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.comHello to everyone,I thought that it was time that I posted my family details.  I havebeen told that my ancestor had eleven variations on the spellingof his name during his lifetime..  I have listed just a few of them.I am looking for information on my 5xgreat grandfather Thomas

CRAWN/CRAUN/CRAHAN/CROUGHAN (among other variationsof the name).  He was tried at Dublin in December 1791 and sentencedto 7 years transportation.  He arrived aboard the "Boddington" in NewSouth Wales where he served most of his sentence and was sent toNorfolk Island aboard the "Marquis Cornwallis" in May 1796.  While onNorfolk Island he married Mary MONKS who also had been tried in Dublinand sentenced to transportation and arrived in New South Wales aboardthe"Marquis Cornwallis".  She only stayed in NSW a few days and was sent toNorfolk Island aboard the "Radiance".Thomas and Mary and five children were sent to Van Dieman's Land(Tasmania)when the first convict settlement on Norfolk Island was disbanded inDecember1807.  They settled in New Norfolk, Van Dieman's Land and had anothertwochildren.  They did not stay out of trouble however as Thomas wasarrestedand was tried in September 1817 for sheep stealing with his eldest sonThomasjunior.They were sentenced to death but that was commuted to a life sentenceafter apetition was sent  to the Lieutenant-Governor on their behalf.  They

were bothsent toNewcastle and Thomas senior received his ticket of leave after he wasone ofthoseselected to go and retrieve a government boat that had been stolen andwreckedbyrunaway convicts.  In later years Thomas had trouble proving that hehad infact receivedhis ticket of leave as there was some confusion over the variousspelling ofhis name.Mary was also in trouble - once for being drunk for which she was finedfive

shillingsand another time she was arrested for stealing a loin of pork but thiscasewas dismissed.

Another two of their sons - James and John - were arrested for stealingtenpigsand were sentenced to seven years.The children of Thomas and Mary:-ThomasJames (1798-1848) married Rebecca CoxCatherine (1802-1833) married Henry CresswellJohn (1804-1857) married Sarah Rowley  (my line)Michael (1807-1822)David (1809-1847) married Sarah MorganOrison (1811-?)If anybody could shed some light on this CRAWN/CRAUN etcfamily, I would be happy to hear from you.

Wendyin Queensland, Australiawendyevans@bigpond.com

 

From:        ljstandak@webtv.net (Lyle Staehnke)Add to Address Book   Date:        Tue, 20 Oct 1998 11:37:44 -0700 (PDT)    To:        caoimhghin@yahoo.com Subject:        RE:List Oct.10.11,12

Kevin let me know if no one has forwarded these message`s.I still have

them and will send them if you like..

Lyle

Reply-To:          "Family History" < >    From:          "Family History" < >Add to Address Book    Date:          Wed, 21 Oct 1998 08:48:41 +0100

  Subject:          [CRYAN-L] CRYAN genealogies      To:          CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Thank you for the list of genealogies. That adds another 6 to those weknowcame from the Keash parish. Some of these I can pick out from the Irishindexes and be more precise than just the Boyle registration districtwithout having to obtain the certificate.There is even one from Caracrurie - could that by any chance beCarrowcrory?Thanks again, Caoimghin, regards Eve

 

 

 Reply-To:          "Family History" < >    From:          "Family History" < >Add to Address Book    Date:          Wed, 21 Oct 1998 10:01:52 +0100

  Subject:          [CRYAN-L] Irish History book      To:          CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Hello again,I just had to pass on this which ,having seen in a family historylibrary,have found in a local bookshop.Atlas of Irish History, ed by Sean Duffy, published by Gill andMacmillanprice £9.99 in UK probably less than $20 in USA      ISBN 0 7171 2479 7It is ideal for those wanting a comprehensive but visual history ofIrelandas a whole. There is very little about individual places. As an atlasit isfull of maps rater than explanations from very early times, campaigns,movements of people, tribal areas and much more. I am just going topick itup so will say more when I have read some of it (yes, there is also anarrative).

There is also a great tome , which I would have liked but postage pluscostwould be prohibitive for one book. You may get it more easily in theUSA ormay find it in a library.Irish Records - Sources for Family History and Local History - JamesRyanpublished by Ancestry Publishing PO box 476 Salt Lake City, UT 84110ISBN  0 916489 22 1or for those in Ireland from Flyleaf Press , 4 Spencer Villas,Glenageary,Co Dublin. phone 0-806228cost about $50 or at least £20 - not sure of current prices.Until again, take care everyone Eve

From:             "Anthony & Jill Cryan" <cryanaj@ozemail.com.au>Add to             Address Book

 Organization:             The Adjutant's Desk       Date:             Wed, 21 Oct 1998 21:12:45 +1000

    Reply-to:             cryanaj@ozemail.com.au     Subject:             [CRYAN-L] [Repost] Hello and Cryans in the American             Civil War..         To:             CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

I sent the following when the list first started, so I thought I'd sendit again.....TC------- Forwarded Message Follows -------Date sent:              Fri, 21 Aug 1998 23:00:17 +1000

Hi FolksTony Cryan from Australia here - I'm still pottering around a bit asconcerns "The Family Tree"  so please excuse....I've gone back as far as my GGG Domnick (m. Catherine Cauly (Cawley <sp>)) - he was a Farmer from Gurteen Sligo I believe. I am very eager to find out more about Domnick, as I only know for

sure  that he had a son and daughter (Thomas  <bn Gurteen, Sligo Ire 1854>  arr  Aust approx 1877 - I can trace from Thomas onwards) and Sarah - bn 24 March 1866 Sligo, Gurteen District). Assistance from Eve < >  at this time causes me to surmise  that  the elusive GGG "Domnick" appears

to be  one that died in 1892 aged 90 at  Boyle (no. 4.83) thereby born 1802 - but I have not confirmed this.

Has any one else found a Domnick in their travels ?Now to the ACW:

I have subscribed to the ACW  database on the Web and fed in Cryan - 4 came up on the Union army: Patrick   - A Co MA 9th Infantry - (1862 to 1863) Thomas and Michael - M Co RI  3rd Heavy Artillery (1862 to 1865)  I was already aware of (thanks to those who helped - I'm not at my files so please forgive me for not

mentioning you directly) - John - enlisted C CoNJ 11th Infantry (Deserted enroute to Regt June 1864). A little 

more info was contained (County, Company, Ranks, Transfers etc) with each. With the Confederate  parameter - the result amazed me with a return of a Donnick Cryan who joined  the 49th GA Infantry, transferred to the gunboat CSS Chicora and then was a  POW (a side note indicates the entry could be Donnick or Dominick..... )Has any one traced these folk back to Ireland ?

I'm eager to find out if any of the ACW Cryan's are related to "my"Domnick,  though without a full list of his (Dom from Sligo) children,siblings or parents it's difficult. (Actually I would be interested inanymaterial concerning Cryans in Military History - in particular prior to1900).ThanksTC

AnthonyCryanTheAdjutant's Deskadjutant@ozemail.com.auhttp://www.ozemail.com.au/~adjutant/adjutant.html

 

From:        Fatarm@aol.comAdd to Address Book   Date:

        Wed, 21 Oct 1998 21:24:22 EDT Subject:        [CRYAN-L] Cryan Mailing List Archive

    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

For those with an interest to see what was discussed before theysubscribed,who have had a computer crash, or just wish to go back and re-livedelightfulO'Crean postings come some rainy day, please know that there is a(somewhat) searchable archive available.  It's limited in power and it didn'tbegin untilwe'd sent maybe 10 or so messages, but you can check it out at the belowhotlink or the following:http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/members/archives.htmlYes, our words have been recorded -- it's a little complicated tofollow alongthe retrieval instructions, but it can be done.  I was able to pull up

message20, but nothing under message #10, so the archive must have kicked insometimebetween (it's just as well -- the first few messages were just me and mybrother testing out the list to make sure it worked).  And since theCryanswere the next people on the list, and they've re-posted in the pastmonth Ibelieve, basically all the info previously shared through the list isaccessible.  I haven't tried out the search feature -- if someone does,pleaselet me know if you have success or failure.Caoimhghin O Croidhein (Kevin Cryan) has kindly sent me some things togetposted to the list as time allows.  I'm going to start tonight, so look

forsome of these items.  They don't just pertain to Cryans, as Caoimhghinis avery thorough researcher and has picked up a little here and there thatshouldplease everyone on the list.   So stay tuned for more excitement ....Leslie

 

<A HREF="http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/members/archives.html">Search

Features Available for a RootsWeb MailinÉ</A>

 

 

From:        Fatarm@aol.comAdd to Address Book   Date:        Wed, 21 Oct 1998 21:24:56 EDT

 Subject:        [CRYAN-L] Cryan Mailing List Archive    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

From:        Fatarm@aol.comAdd to Address Book   Date:        Wed, 21 Oct 1998 21:53:32 EDT

 Subject:        [CRYAN-L] The Kerryman: Review of 1911 Controversy        Involving William Cryan, Caoimhghin's Granddad    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

 

 

Caoimhghin kindly sent a copy of a recent (Friday, Sept 25, 1998)articlepublished in The Kerryman, and here it is:

When Saving a Drowning Man Leads to Controversy:

A TALE of heroism, deceit and slander involving the rescue of adrowningman at Cahersiveen unfolded in the pages of The Kerryman 87 years ago.   The Kerryman's letters page was ablaze with fiery comments which noeditorwould allow to be published today.   At the centre of the story was William Cryan, a young law clerk wholivedin Cahersiveen, and who later became an intimate friend of MichaelCollins.   While preparing for a swim at Cobbler's Rock at Cahersiveen inSeptember1911, he noticed a man in distress in the river and together withanother man,swam to his rescue.   When an article in The Kerryman described the dramatic rescue, ananonymousperson wrote in to complain that a certain Daniel Mangan had not been

creditedfor his part in the rescue.   Letters began to flock in to The Kerryman for and against Mangan,

and theeditor finally had to declare the matter was closed.   The original article said: "A young man named Timothy Morley enteredthewater, and swimming out at a distance became exhausted, and when about

toretreat was unable to combat with the strong current prevailing at thetime."   William Cryan and Patrick Colbert heard Morley's cries for help. "They atonce divested themselves of their clothing and plunging into the waterswamtowards the drowning man.  Morley was unconscious at this stage, andCryanseized him by the hand, it being the only part of his body then abovethewater."   The rescuers brought Morley back to the shore.  It is at this stagethatDaniel Mangan and 'M Walsh, Draper' enter the story.   "When they reached the shore they appeared to be in an exhaustedcondition.With the help of Messrs D Mangan and M Walsh the rescued man was takenfromthe water to the bank in a very critical condition, but after a littlewhileregained consciousness.   "Great credit is due to Messrs Wm Cryan and Patrick Colbert, whoplayedsuch a heroic part in the rescuing of this unfortunate man, who nodoubt wouldhave lost his life were it not for them.   "It is to be hoped that the matter will be brought under the noticeof theRoyal Humane Society and that it will deserve the recognition of theCarnegieHero Fund."   The next week a letter appeared from 'A Looker On' claiming thearticle wasinaccurate and garbled, calling William Cryan's heroism into question,andstating that Daniel Mangan had helped William Cryan in the rescue'without amoment's hesitation'.   Now at this stage it would be fair to assume that the anonymouswriter wasnone other than Daniel Mangan himself, particularly when the letterstatedthat: "It would be quite out of place for the Royal Humane Society ortheCarnegie Hero Fund to heed or take any interest whatsoever in thematter."Could Daniel Mangan have been jealous of William Cryan?   The next week a letter then arrived from M Walsh, Draper, claimingthatMangan had been less than willing to help.  "Mr D C Mangan refused togo tothe rescue, " he stated.   The 'Looker On' took offence and wrote back, calling M Walsh'sintelligenceinto account and saying 'the writer must have been suffering from anightmare'.  The 'Looker On' said Mangan had been 'falsely accused ofcowardice'.   However, it seems that the 'Looker On' was not, after all, DanielMangan,as the following week a letter arrived from Mangan himself.  He was notparticularly pleased at the allegations being made against him.   "Whilst I do not crave for honour, yet I feel it only fair to saythat Mr.Walsh who professes to be a gentleman, should not sign lying statementsconcocted by somebody else for publication, Mangan wrote.  "I knows aswell as

I do that I did not refuse to render assistance in every way possible."   But that wasn't the end of the matter.  M Walsh wrote a final letterto TheKerryman, in which said Daniel Mangan definitely refused to help.  "He

refusedand said 'What a nice thing I would do; he might drown me,' Walsh wrote.   A note from the editor put an end to the matter.  "Thiscorrespondence isnow closed.-Ed.K."   In the end, William Cryan did receive a certificate saying heassisted insaving a life.  Cryan had been born in Mid[blur]ton, Co. Cork in 1891,

andcame to Cahersiveen when he was 17.  He was later attached to theMarconiCompany in the early days of wireless telegraphy and was at sea for manyyears.  He became a member of the Army Signal Corps when the Irish Armywasformed.----------Caoimhghin, does your family still have the certificate?  What a greatstory.

Did you granddad ever discuss it?

 

From:        Fatarm@aol.comAdd to Address Book   Date:        Wed, 21 Oct 1998 22:56:07 EDT

 Subject:        [CRYAN-L] Forgive this 'I-forget-who-asked' posting    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

but someone mentioned to me that they were interested in the IrelandBookdiscussion group (was it you, Pat in Boston?).  Anyways, someone elseon thelist may be interested as well.  Here's the heading:

IRELAND-BOOK-DISCUSSION-L-request@rootsweb.com.  Same as Cryan-L, you just email with the word

"subscribe" as the sole message content.

 

From:        Fatarm@aol.comAdd to Address Book   Date:        Wed, 21 Oct 1998 23:17:19 EDT Subject: CRYAN-L] Irish Times, "Where's That" Article 1995    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

This is for all of us, again courtesy of Caoimhghin.  It fits perfectlywithour ongoing research into the variations of O'Crean etc. and (withtongue incheek) the family motto.  Enjoy (and thank Kevin for the info!):

[reproducedin full]

Where's ThatIrish Times, p. 23, 29-5-1995

Ballinvilla 1087

   It is related that when a priest asked a child if she wouldrecognise Jesusif she met him on the road she readily replied that she would.  'Andhow wouldshe recognise Him?' the priest curiously enquired. 'He would,' repliedthechild, 'be wearing His heart on His shirt!'  We cannot say what it wasaboutthe first person to be given the surname 'O Croidheain' (from croi,heart).Was it his Christ-like sanctity? Or was he a hearty person - 'juinecrofuil',or was he the treasure of someone's heart, as in 'a stor mo chroi'?'Nil fhiosagainn.'  O Croidheain formed a minor sept of the 'Cinel Eoghain' in Co.Donegal, with a branch in Co. Sligo.  Persons named (O) Crean, (O)Creane,Creaghan, Crehan, (O) Cryan, Cryans, Cregan or Creegan, may beoriginally 'O

Croidhein' -- but then again they may not.  This surname usually tookthe formCrehan in Co.s Clare and Galway, with Crean, Grean and even Graham inCo.Mayo.  Crean today is mostly found in Munster, though in most cases inCosKerry and Cork it may more correctly be from 'O Corraidhin', usuallyanglicised Curreen.  A further complication was that 'O Corrain',usuallyanglicised Curran, was sometimes changed to Crean.  Cregan and Creeganderivefrom 'O Croidheagain', a different surname.   'Annala Rioghachta Eireann'/Annals of the Four Masters notes thedeaths ofDonnell O Craidhin and Henry O Craidhin in 1506 and 1572 respectively. TheAnnals provide the unusual information regarding the occupations ofthese two.The former was 'a pious and conscientious merchant, died while hearingMass inDonegal', and the latter was 'a rich and affluent merchant of LowerConnaught'.  A Fiant of Edward VI of 1546 notes the grant to BaptistCrean ofSlegaugh ('Sligeach', Sligo), of a fee of 12d sterling a day for life.Elizabeth Fiants list pardons to Donald sallagh O Crahyn of Balyglyhan,CoLimerick in 1576; to William O Croyne of Cloynecasleyne, Co Galway in

1585; toAndrew and John O Crean, gentlemen of Ormond and Connaught in 1585; toWalterO Crean of Sligo in the same year; to Richard O Creayn of Sligo in1593; toTeig and Shane O Crean of Keanturke in 1601, and to Walter O Creane --apparently of Donegal, in 1602/3.  Keanturke, not Kinturk, namestownlands inCos Clare, Monaghan, Tyrone and in the Co Galway parish of Ballyhean. Thislatter we take was the home of Teig and Shane in 1601.   The 1659 Census lists John Craine among the Tituladoes of Shandon intheLiberties of Cork city, and Symon Crane was a Co Meath Commissioner ofthe1661 Poll-Money Ordinance.  This pair however may have borne the Englishsurname Crane which belongs to the nickname category of surnames.

These are'descriptive of an ancestor's face, figure, temper, morals, taste,clothes andthe rest'.  The ancestor of the English Cranes was 'skinny andlonglegged likea crane'.  All things considered it would not be difficult to choosethe Irishsurname.   Among the 1654-58 transplanters from other counties to the Co Mayobarony

of Costello, were Andrew and Agnes Crean, Annagh, Co Sligo, sent to CoMayo'sparish of Annagh where they were to receive 600 acres.  Julian Crean,also ofCo Sligo's Annagh, was to receive 634 acres in the same place. Additionallyhe was to get 200 acres in the Co Galway parish of Dunmore.  John Creanof CoSligo, was to get 100 acres in the Co Galway parish of Belclare. Taylor &Skinners 1778 'Maps of the Roads of Ireland' shows Crean Esq., atBallybeg inthe Co Mayo parish of Annagh.  The 1814 Directory Lists Mr. StephenCrain atCartera, Ballinasloe, and Joseph Crane, Esq., Ballinvilla, both in CoGalway.BALLINVILLA, Co Mayo, the 1814 residence of the above Joseph Crain,Esq., wasin 1876 the home of A L Crean, where he had 731 acres.  In the samecountyThomas Crean, Ballina, had a modest two acres.  'OnomasticonGoedelicum' givesBallinvilla in the Co Roscommon parish of Killumod as deriving from'Baile anBhealaigh', 'the town of the way or pass.'___________

note: for some reason either specific to AOL or the web in generalaccentsdon't travel well with my emails (think of my surname, Poche', andyou'llrealize I have reason to know), so please forgive my omittance of the

propergaelic spellings.   No author is listed, and I wish I knew more about who composed thisdescription.  It doesn't totally jive with MacLysaght, does it?

 

From:        Julie_Case@prodigy.com (MS JULIA M CASE)Add to Address        Book   Date:        Wed, 21 Oct 1998 21:52:10, -0500 Subject:        RootsWeb Review, Vol. 1, No. 19    To:        RootsWeb-Review@rootsweb.com

 

 

ROOTSWEB & PINE MOUNTAIN CLUB or WHERE IN HECK IS FRAZIER PARK?

 

            by Karen Isaacson and Brian Leverich

 

Walt Scott commented in a recent letter to the editors: "When onesees Frazier Park as an address -- shake, rattle, and roll comesto mind and skiing some times of the year. . . I was surprised tofind a 'World Class' genealogy site where you . . . reside."Walt knows that Frazier Park, California, is a small town aboutan hour north of Los Angeles near Interstate 5, but many of ourreaders might not. And actually, RootsWeb isn't in Frazier Parkat all, it's in an outlying community (suburb would sound sillyin this context) called Pine Mountain Club about 20 miles west,tucked into the mountains.  But the post office thinks we're inFrazier Park, so that's our address. (To further confound things,the telephone company thinks we're in Lebec. Go figure.)

 

So, what's RootsWeb doing in the mountains of SouthernCalifornia, 20 miles west of a place most folk have never heardabout? And what's Pine Mountain Club like, anyhow?The second question is easier, and partially answers the first.Sometimes a picture is worth 1,000 words (or so the old clichegoes). If you can, take a look at:

         <http://www.frazmtn.com/pmcwebcam/index.html>

 

The town is 5,000 feet (and more) above sea level. We have trees(a bit of a novelty in Southern California) and snow (ditto). Forthis homesick transplantee from Olympia, Washington (hi, Mom!, hiDad!), with a tele-commutable job in the Los Angeles area, thetrees and fresh air and the four seasons made Pine Mountain Clubsound like a little bit of heaven. Up we came.Brian says this is boring. He's probably right. I feel happy justlooking at the trees and birds and, well, just being here. Butmaybe you'd have to be here to appreciate that. (Some of youare.) So let's let Brian have the floor: "Karen left out all thesatisfaction of the pioneering lifestyle, chasing bears out ofthe dumpsters, 'coons out of the dog food, coyotes out of thebird food (it's a long story), and mice out of everything.Roughing it with no Chinese restaurant within 60 miles. Four-wheel-driving it in and out as our only road slipped down themountain or had the mountain fall on it."And the joys of trying to keep a major Internet site running inthis environment, which range from the sublime (sleeping-baggingit in a freezing-cold NOC to keep the generator fueled) to theridiculous (having our data lines cross-wired into the onlybakery within an hour's drive). At least you could get the only56.6Kb donuts in the world right here at Pine Mountain Club."Anyhow, Brian and I aren't the only techno-refugees up here onthe hill. An interesting place like this, not that far from LosAngeles, has brought together a number of kindred spirits, two ofwhom, Scott and Barbara Rosen, founded Frazier Mountain InternetService (FMIS). RootsWeb's first access to the Internet was aserver co-located in the FMIS Network Operations Center (NOC). Asyou might guess from some of the more recent messages in theRootsWeb Review, we now have servers in other NOCs, some as faraway as the new one in Anaheim. They probably don't have to worryabout bears in their garbage cans down there.

 

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GEEK SPEAK. Thanks to Dale ("Doc") Schneider for transmitting the

following item, which was written by and is published with the

permission of Leigh Compton <lcompton@onramp.net>.

 

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CGI SCRIPTS -- Web servers easily deliver prepared pages andgraphics on demand, but with HTML documents, the server can onlyprovide those documents which have been specifically prepared bythe webmaster and placed on the server. Webmasters need a way tohave HTML pages created dynamically, based upon input supplied bythe user at the browser. That's the role of CGI scripts. 

CGI stands for Common Gateway Interface, which provides anenvironment for executing programs on the Web server to processthe input data and create a Web page in response. CGI scripts canbe written in just about any programming language, but the mostpopular are Perl, C, C++, and Java.

Common tasks often handled by CGI scripts are bulletin boards,database searches, processing forms, displaying catalog contents,and even shopping carts.

 

All webmasters at RootsWeb have access to the MailMerge andimagemap programs. The RootsWeb Surname List, GenConnect, SurnameHelper, RootsWeb HelpDesk, and the Mailing List Archive SearchEngine are all CGI-based Web applications.

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CONNECTING THROUGH ROOTSWEB: Thanks for sharing your stories.

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Through my involvement on the Chester County, Pennsylvania,Quaker, and Mahoning County, Ohio lists, and through queries to county Web pages, I've "met" seven cousins and many non-relativeswho have been exceedingly helpful and generous with their ownresearch. With their help I now have substantial information onthree direct lines, one going clear back to the 1400s. The firstcousin contacted me after my initial query about where I mightfind a copy of our family's history and genealogy which wascompiled and published by my ggg-uncle in 1885. This cousin sentme some preliminary information and put me in contact withanother cousin who had the book. That cousin sent me wonderfulinformation about my maternal grandfather's line and gave me apublishing source to get a copy of the book. I ordered copies forseveral family members, and they were presented at a familyreunion this summer, along with a 12-generation family tree Iprinted out from all the data I'd been able to gather. Just sixmonths ago I had no information beyond my grandparents'generation. It was quite a revelation suddenly to learn of ourvery well-documented Quaker roots. I thank the many genealogistswho did primary research and so carefully documented their workand published their findings, and those still at work, sogenerous in sharing their data. There is still a lot for me to

do, but how much fun it is, this addictive research.When I was looking for the location of a church graveyard wheremany of my ancestors rest, several people put me in touch withpeople they knew near that town. I learned that the church roofhad recently blown off in a storm and narrowly missed theheadstones in the graveyard. One of the kind folks who contactedme was a high school teacher who had the summer off and livednear the graveyard. He even offered to drive my elderly familymembers from another county to the site. Talk about nice people!        The most meaningful contact I've made through RootsWeb, besides

that with my cousins, happened [recently] in response to a queryfor information about my mother who died when I was one. Ireceived a response from a woman my own age who had grown up onthe very street where my mother lived. This woman asked hermother if she remembered my family. She not only remembered them

but had known my mother from childhood until her death. She wasable to tell me through her remembrances a bit about what mymother was like as a person. What a precious gift to find someone

who knew a deceased family member so well. Thanks for making

these contacts possible. You've got a faithful subscriber in me.

                                K. Kleeh <kbybay@earthlink.net>

 

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PUBLISHING YOUR HISTORY ON CD

 

    by Brian Bonner Mavrogeorge <bmavrogeorge@palladium.net>

 

At our BONNER reunion this year I was given the task of producing

a family history for the year 2000 reunion. Of course once the

"volunteer" had been chosen, each cousin had his or her own idea

of what the history should contain. As they described their

visions of our history, they mentioned the photos, videos, audio

tapes, certificates, and other items they had hidden away and

wanted to share. How could we create something that would

encompass all of our "history"? It didn't seem the traditional

printed history would do.

 

The solution I proposed was to publish our history on a CD using

the same type of technology used for Web sites. This approach

will accommodate all the text we would need for a family history

with the standard journal report and box charts. It lets us

include photos of individuals, events, and places as well as

audio tapes. Various cousins volunteered to scan in photos and

images of Bible pages, graduation certificates, and mementos. The

only software needed to view our family history will be an

Internet browser -- Netscape or Microsoft Internet Explorer.

 

Several commercial and shareware utilities can generate Web

pages. You can even use Word for Windows to create text in the

special format needed. The latter is a brute-force method, bound

to inspire those with lots of time for typing and tweaking HTML

code. While these products are good for creating Web pages, they

are not really designed for genealogy Web sites. I chose to use

the built-in ability of Ultimate Family Tree (UFT) to create a

complete Web site, since it will automatically incorporate the

genealogy data I have already entered.

 

Usually you create a Web page, with graphics and images, in

Ultimate Family Tree and then upload it to Palladium's free home

page <http://www.uftree.com/UFT/Nav/familyWebpagesview.html>. You

can, however, choose the option to create the pages for your own

site and that is what the CD actually is. It is a representation

on the CD of a Website which is read/viewed by the browser.

 

When the cousins have scanned in all the images of people,

places, events, and family mementos, in UFT I will link each of

the images to the appropriate person, place, or event. Then when

UFT creates the HTML code, it will automatically include those

images for me. It will create the code in a series of files on my

hard drive. We are also going to include a special "family

gallery" with family images that cousins can view and copy into

their own family history creations.

 

Once UFT has created the Web site and the gallery is complete, I

will copy the entire file structure onto a CD using a CD burner

and the appropriate CD software (I will use Toast). The CDs can

be easily replicated, and we intend to include a CD in each

invitation to the "Bonner 2000" family reunion. The recipient

will invoke her or his browser program, point it to the index.htm

file on the CD and then explore our history.

 

Not everything will make the final product. You can transform

videos and films into QuickTime format and "play" them with an

add-on for a browser. But the QuickTime files would be very

large. (By the year 2000, DVD disks may be in wide use and be an

option.) The conversion process also would take considerable

time. I love my cousins dearly, but if I have to choose between

four days of work converting a video tape to QuickTime or four

days in the basement of a courthouse doing research, the

courthouse will win.

 

For another example of publishing a history on a CD, check out

Ultimate Family Tree's <http://www.uftree.com> Family Tutor

series of genealogy multimedia tutorials. The techniques used for

breaking content into sections, incorporating sound files, and

displaying "moving" images in collages, are easily done in your

own family history CD.

 

HUMOR. Our thanks to Amy Dean <adean@titan.cc.emory.edu>, who

sent us this story 18 months ago (23 Apr 1997) with advice she'd

received it from several sources, Bruce Anderson II among them.

 

                   YEAR 2000 (Y2K) PARABLE 

                submitted by Penny Pennington

 

There was once a COBOL programmer in the mid to late 1900s. For

the sake of this story, we'll call him Jack. After years of being

taken for granted and treated as a technological dinosaur by all

the UNIX programmers and Client/Server programmers and Web site

developers, Jack was finally getting some respect. He'd become a

private consultant specializing in Year 2000 conversion. He was

working short-term assignments for prestigious companies,

traveling all over the world on different assignments. He was

working 70 and 80 and even 90 hour weeks, but it was worth it.

 

Several years of this relentless, mind-numbing work had taken its

toll on Jack. He had problems sleeping and began having anxiety

dreams about the year 2000. It had reached a point where even the

thought of the year 2000 made him nearly violent. He must have

suffered some sort of breakdown, because all he could think about

was how he could avoid the year 2000 and all that came with it.

 

Jack decided to contact a company that specialized in cryogenics.

He made a deal to have himself frozen until March 15, 2000. This

was a very expensive process and totally automated. He was

thrilled. The next thing he would know is he'd wake up in the

year 2000; after the New Year celebrations and computer debacles;

after the leap day. Nothing else to worry about except getting on

with his life.

 

He was put into his cryogenic receptacle, the technicians set the

revive date, he was given injections to slow his heartbeat to a

bare minimum, and that was that.

 

The next thing that Jack saw was an enormous and very modern room

filled with excited people. They were all shouting, "I can't

believe it!" and "It's a miracle!" and "He's alive!"  There were

cameras (unlike any he'd ever seen) and equipment that looked

like it came out of a science fiction movie.

 

Someone who was obviously a spokesperson for the group stepped

forward. Jack couldn't contain his enthusiasm. "It is over?" he

asked. "Is 2000 already here? Are all the millennial parties and

promotions and crises all over and done with?"

 

The spokesman explained that there had been a problem with the

programming of the timer on Jack's cryogenic receptacle, it

hadn't been year 2000 compliant. It was actually 8,000 years

later, not the year 2000. But the spokesman told Jack that he

shouldn't get excited; someone important wanted to speak to him.

 

Suddenly, a wall-sized projection screen displayed the image of a

man who looked very much like Bill Gates. This man was Prime

Minister of Earth. He told Jack not to be upset. That this was a

wonderful time to be alive. That there was world peace and no

more starvation. That the space program had been reinstated and

there were colonies on the moon and on Mars. That technology had

advanced to such a degree that everyone had virtual reality

interfaces which allowed them to contact anyone else on the

planet, or to watch any entertainment, or to hear any music

recorded anywhere.

 

"That sounds terrific," said Jack. "But, I'm curious. Why is

everybody so interested in me?"

 

"Well," said the Prime Minister, "The year 10,000 is just around

the corner, and it says in your files that you know COBOL."

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From:        "Michael Tobin" <tobinmi@hotmail.com>Add to Address Book   Date:        Thu, 22 Oct 1998 05:14:23 PDT Subject:        [CRYAN-L] Wandering around Keash    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Hello there,I was up in Co. Sligo at the weekend and visited a 2nd cousin of my mother's who lives in Keash, within sight of the famous caves of Keash. I did not acquire any new information in relation to my research as I have been in touch with him a few times before. However, it was the first time that I had time to see some of the scenery in Keash and it was impressive.Just to set the scene, Keash mountain (known as Keash Corann) and the Bricklieve montains are in the middle of relatively low-lying land and are the highest points for many miles around. We went for a drive through the mountains and the views from the mountain are fantastic. At one point on the mountain, you can see 4 counties  - Donegal, Sligo (of course), Leitrim and Mayo.You can clearly see Knocknarae mountain which is near Strandhill, onthe top of which sits Queen Maeve's grave. Queen Maeve was Queen ofConnacht hundreds of years ago. In the Keash mountains themselves, there are at least 4 similar graves to Queen Maeve's. I don't know who is buried there - but it must be people of significance as each grave is right at the top of a mountain peak. There is a nice lake, Lough Leibhe, buried in a valley in the middle of the mountains.We stopped at the old Toomour church at the foot of the mountain.Legend has it that 4 High-Kings of Ireland are buried here. The church is in ruins and mostly overgrown. The graves are known to locals but are not marked. I don't know if any of you ever heard of Cormac Mac Art, a legendary High-King of Ireland - well, local folklore is that he was reared by wolves in the caves of Keash Corann.A local comittee in Keash are working on a history of the area and

expect to publish it in about 12 months time. When it is available, hopefully I will be able to post details of how to order it here.RegardsMichael

 

Reply-To:          "Family History" < >    From:          "Family History" < >Add to Address Book    Date:          Thu, 22 Oct 1998 13:39:49 +0100  Subject:

          [CRYAN-L] Re Wandering in Keash      To:          CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Hi Michael,Thank you so much.It sounds lovely. However well one reads a map on cannotreplace a description. I look foreward to the book, there must be muchmore.As I have said before my family folklore has it that during /after thefamine my lot were involved in a government experiment (to diversify thecrops) to grow tobacco (of all things) . It failed as these things do ,theland did not support all the family so my lot left and worked in thetobaccoindustry in Liverpool. It could well be fiction to cloak other reasonsforemigrating. But if you ever get the chance perhaps you could ask the"localhistorians". Perhaps those at the scene of the event might have had awhiffof tobacco.until again , take care Eve

 

From:        Fatarm@aol.comAdd to Address Book   Date:        Thu, 22 Oct 1998 12:29:08 EDT Subject:        [CRYAN-L] Tom Crean and Ireland's Polar Stars    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

>From the RTE Guide, 20-Dec-1996, again thanks to Caoimhghin:[in full]

Special Series:  Ireland's Polar Stars

Down in Annascaul in Kerry you can buy a drink in The South Pole Inn. Behindthe name lies a tale of pure heroism, idealism and derring-do that'llnevercome our way again.  Or not quite...Joe Duffy has the story and it's a great one to hear at the cold turnof theyear.  It's told over two programmes, just as a small group of Irishmensetsail into the Antarctic summer in a 23-foot replica wooden lifeboat. Theiraim?  To commemorate the litle-known deeds of two Irish polar heroes. Joeexplains:"Ernest Shackleton was of Anglo-Irish stock, the kind you'd expect toend upas an explorer.  Tom Crean was a countryman from Annascaul who ran away andjoined the Navy.  Crean ended up the last man on board Robert Scott'sship forthe Pole, but Scott didn't pick him for the fatal polar run.  He wasyoung andhad tremendous stamina; he might have made all the difference.  At anyrate hewas the first to discover the party frozen in their tent eight monthslater."Two years later Crean joined Shackleton for a cross-Antarcticexpedition.Their ship *Endurance* became ice-bound for a year with no aid coming(WWI wasin full fettle).  A crew of six (three of them Irish) took to the hugesouthern seas in a lifeboat in an extraordinary mid-winter rescue runto SouthGeorgia; and Crean, Shackleton and one other man went on to cross theislandand reach help.  They succeeded -- and all 47 crewmen were saved.  Creanreturned to Annascaul and opened the so-fittingly named pub [South PoleInn].The bravery medals he was awarded actually saved Crean's life duringthe Blackand Tan era:  a stranger-than-fiction story told on the programme.Talking to Joe are the crew of the commemorative expedition and membersofCrean's family.  Archives include an *Endurance* survivor's accountand, from1909, courtesy of a phonograph company, the voice of Ernest Shackleton.___________Sounds like a great radio program.  I'd be happy to send a copy of thepagethis description comes from to anyone interested (email me with your

snailmail address) -- sorry, no scanner.  It has a picture of Crean, hisInn, andthe replica lifeboat.

 

Date:        Thu, 22 Oct 1998 21:49:56 -0400 (EDT)  From:        simone samuel <amethyst@inch.com>Add to Address Book Subject:        [CRYAN-L] corrections and minutiae    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Hi all interested,  Today I got some new hearsay info on my branch of the Crehan family.AllI have done with regard to genealogy in the last month is read this listand look up "genealogy" on my college library's computer catalog when aclass was cancelled; this comes from a lunch my mother had with sistersand sister-in-law.  For many years I have thought that my great grandmother was MargaretO'Donoghue Crehan, with a Walsh somewhere in her line. My mother'smemorywavers a lot but I never questioned this because she was certain. Well,she's certain now that her grandmother was *Catherine* something Crehan.No other sister ever thought differently, although her brother andsister-in-law named their daughter Margaret after her. And her maidennamewas either Logan or Walsh. Apparently someone told my mother thatO'Donoghues in a long ago obituary were her grandmother's Bronxiancousins, and my mother assumed that this must be her grandmother'smaiden name. This is why I need to start interviewingother family members and investing money if I really want to find stuffout. She's not even a Crehan by blood, but it was the biggest thing Ifound out today and you never know what someone will make a connectionwith.  I also found out that my grandfather, Arthur Crehan, had brothersnamedLawrence and James, which brings the total of names we know in thatfamilyto ten (others are Augustine (Augustus?,) John, Catherine, Helen, Julia,Mary, and Margaret.)   My aunt-in-law who was in Roscommon in the 80s with my uncle says thatthe Crehans she met were all Creans, and they knew of our branch of thefamily so maybe we were without the 'h' back in Ireland. Never surewithout actually putting some research in, though. It's just niceknowingI may have a closer connection to more of the list members than Ithought.I also learned that my great-grandparents met and married in the US.  Finally, the pastor of my aunt-in-law's parish showed her grown son anold photo which looked, they said, exactly like his 13-year-old son.Thenthe priest told him that this boy's name was Crehan. My cousin wasinterested enough in this to tell the story at home, but not to ask thepriest what the boy's first name had been. So, some male Crehan is intherecords of St. Rose of Lima Catholic elementary school in Brooklyn, NYfrom 1916.Totally amateur,Theresa Mary

 From:        RuthK3834@aol.comAdd to Address Book   Date:        Thu, 22 Oct 1998 22:37:49 EDT Subject:

        [CRYAN-L] For Theresa Mary    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

One of the surnames I am researching is Cregan.  Some of my Cregan'slived inBrooklyn, NY.  Catherine was the name of my great-grandmother.  She had4children that I know of.  Patrick, Nellie, Michael, and Catherine.  Thespelling means little as so many were changed when the people emigrated.Perhaps there is a connection. 

Ruth in Florida

From:        Fatarm@aol.comAdd to Address Book   Date:        Fri, 23 Oct 1998 00:10:38 EDT Subject:        [CRYAN-L] Mostly chatty, but information tucked inbetween    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

 

First, before I blather as usual, welcome please #33 and #34, a Craneand anI'm-in-the-dark-as-much-as-everybody-else.  I think I've got anotherCrehaninterested to join in shortly, too.  We look forward to hearing from younewbies.Theresa Mary, I LOVED your email.  Did you guys [this is the genderneutral"guys"] realize that there are now 5 Crehan researchers on the listwith a 6thto soon join, I believe?  Maybe it's time you all reposted your researchlines.  I'm really interested by this Crehan/Crean changeover, too.When looking over the Crehan info today, I realized I've been spacingaboutDSchaub1's home county being Tipperary.  For over a week now, theresearcherresponsible for the below webpages has been posting like crazy all overrootsweb's Irish mailing lists, and I promptly kept ignoring it becauseIdidn't think any of us got to Tipperary ... I'm trying hard here not tomakethe obvious bad joke.  At any rate, here's the site I've been

withholding fromyou, so if you haven't yet seen it, look around.  No Crehans/Cranes,but youmight want to get in touch with the researcher:http://www.standard.net.au/~jwilliams/data.htm

Lastly, Kathleen, you were the one originally interested in Tom CreantheAntarctic explorer, right?  Have you read anything particularly goodabout himor his adventures?  My reading list is already too long, but I have toadmitthat the radio program description has whetted my curiosity.  --Leslie

 

 

   Date:        Tue, 27 Oct 1998 10:29:24 -0600 (CST)

  From:        Kathleen A Craine <K-Craine@neiu.edu>Add to Address Book Subject:        Re: [CRYAN-L] "A Famous Doctor of the Last Century" and        admin. items    To:

        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

 

On Mon, 26 Oct 1998 Fatarm@aol.com wrote:

> And I would like a little advice:  I know I have cousins, first namesall

> unknown, living in NJ and NY, USA.  I pulled a list of addresses off

the> internet for Cryans in the NYC area and am contemplating apre-holiday season

> mailing to these poor unsuspecting folks to see if I can get aresponse with a

> connection.  Has anyone else done a blind mailing like this?  Haveyou had any

> luck or response with such a course of action?  I'd be interested toknow.  --

> Leslie

 

Leslie:

I've tried this using emails addresses for another surname in my tree,

andI got about a 30-40% response, none of which were matches.  At least I

wasable to eliminate some people as being related.  Everyone who responded

was very courteous--I suppose the people offended just didn't answer.

Kathy

 

 

From:        Fatarm@aol.comAdd to Address Book

   Date:        Wed, 28 Oct 1998 00:00:52 EST

 Subject:        [CRYAN-L] Admin and Description of Places associated with

        O'Crean family, part 1    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

 

Admin and Description of Places associated with O'Crean family, part 1

________________________

First a little admin:  we lost one subscriber who just recently joined

butnever posted his research, unfortunately, but better news follows -- we

gainedanother Crean researcher who will soon hopefully post the details of her

research.I'm presently spending most of my time data-entering a Births,

Christenings,and Marriages index Caoimhghin kindly sent on.  I'm not quite halfway

yet, andit's humongous.  Interestingly enough, it doesn't list any Creg- or

Creag- orCro- forms of the O'Creans, yet happily includes Cranes, Crains and

some rarerforms of O'Crean (such as Crine).  I'm not sure how I'm going to get

the infoto you all -- but of course I have to finish getting it computerized

before Ican even think of sending the info round.  And don't worry, I won't

send somemammoth file through the list which rootsweb is likely to bounce

anyways.Maybe I'll just do matching locations, surnames or first names on what

folkshave posted.  Of course, if anyone actually wants it all, I'm happy to

arrangesome way of sharing (it's Caoimhghin's research, he gets the credits).

Also, as seems the way of late, the following is due to Caoimhghin:

_________________

[Excerpts from "Rentals of the Estates of Landed Proprietors of the

County Sligo in the Years 1633-6", p. 150-151]

 

The following lands were held by the O'Crean Family:

[Barony of Carbury, Parish of Ahamlish; Parish of St. John's; Parish of

Calry;Parish of Killaspugbrone; Barony of Tirerrill, Parish of Kilmacallan;

andParish of Killadoon -- I'm only doing the first two tonight.]

 

Barony of Carbury, Parish of Ahamlish:  Carownogransy; The inheritance

ofAndrew O'Crean, who took it in mortdgage from my Lo. of Corke, hee lets

it toundertenatns for 10 pounds per annum; it is good arrable lande, there

is anold castle built uppon it, it hath good turffe, 4 dayes mowing, it will

grase50 cowes, and it is worth 12 pounds per annum.

 

Parish of St. John's:  Aghamore, 1 qr.; set for 15 pounds per annum; it

isgood arrable land a part, it hath a great scope of mounteyne and

fir-wood, andgood turffe, 3 days mowing; it now grases 100 cowes and it is worth 16

poundsper annum.  *Ballenogarn*, 4 qrs.  The inheritance of Andrew O'Crean

and HenryOge O'Crean, who setts them to undertenants for 18 pounds a quar.  Of

these 4qrs.  they have good shelter and good turffe, it will grase 400 cowes

and itis worth 72 pounds per annum.  *Lecarownocalry*, 1/2 qr.

 

 

  From:        "jmitchell" <jmitchell@ameritech.net>Add to Address Book

   Date:        Wed, 28 Oct 1998 12:58:02 -0500 Subject:        [CRYAN-L] Craigen/Cregan/Creighan from Limerick    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

 

Hello Leslie Poche & All,

Thank you for your referral to this list. I've been focusing on my othersurnames because I'd found the Irish ones so difficult to trace eventhoughI'm over 75% Irish! The discovery of a Cryan/Cregan list gives merenewedhope. I know very little about my Cregan lineage;

 

Patrick CRAIGEN (the anglicized spelling, yet I've found recordspertaining

to him or his family with the spellings - CREGAN & CREIGHAN) was born

about1808 according to the 1871 Lennox & Addington Co., Ontario, CAN Census.

Patrick married Ellen O'NEILL born about 1805 (1871 Census). Theymarriedby 1844 based on the approximate date of birth of their 1st child,Bridgett. Oral tradition reveals that Ellen lived at the mouth of theShannon River in County Limerick. Both Patrick & Ellen are believed tohaveoriginated in Glin, County Limerick & married there or nearby. Ellen was

married once before Patrick to Thomas CULHANE also of Glin. Ellen &

Thomashad 1 son & 2 daughters, names unknown. Their son settled in Oregon.

 

Patrick emigrated through NY & onto Ontario, Canada about 1845. Ellenfollowed about 2 years later. Patrick & Ellen lived for a while inLennox &Addington Co., Ontario. Patrick died about 4-4-1906 in Ft. Francis,RainyRiver District, Ontario, CAN.

Denis CRAIGEN (Cregan, Creighan), the only other known child besidesBridgett of Patrick & Ellen, was born May 1845 in Ireland, probablyCountyLimerick. He married Mary Ellen KENNELLY born about 1848 (1871 Census)inCounty Kerry. Denis & Mary Ellen married on 1-26-1869 in ErinsvilleParish,Lennox & Addington Co., Ont., Canada. Mary Ellen was the daughter ofJeremiah KENNELLY & Ellen MULVIHILL.

Denis & Mary Ellen had 7 children & they finally settled in Stratton,Morley Twp., Rainy River Dst., Ontario, CAN where they died in 1924 &1921respectively.I have some additional data & ideas but I don't want to make a novelout ofmy first post!

Thank you,Jojmitchell@stones.com   jmitchell@ameritech.net

 

From:        Fatarm@aol.comAdd to Address Book   Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 00:00:20 EST Subject:        [CRYAN-L] Crohane and Co. Kerry    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Hi, gang.  I caught an interesting post on a general search for asurname, andone of the individuals had married a "Crohane Daly".  I wrote to thepost-er to ask about the use of the Christian name and its origins, if he knew. Hewrote back the following and is allowing me to post it to this list: 

"From what I know Crohane was a very popular christian name on the

Iveragh Peninsula (aka ring of kerry) around Cahirdaniel/Castle

Cove/Derrynane area, which are all in the civil parish of Kilcrohane.

The popularity of the name may be attributed to the fact that Saint

Crohane is the patron saint of the parish. The good saint hewed his

hermitage out of solid rock in nearby Coad and to this day Mass is

celebrated on Crohane's day, at this site.  This year's Mass was

celebrated on a beautiful sunny day at the end of July and was well

attended by the locals as well as the bishop and his staff.

There is also a Kilcrohane civil parish in Cork, 14 miles sw of Bantry.

Besides Kate's husband, I know of three other with the christian name of

Crohane.

MacLysaght's "The Surnames of Ireland"

does not list any Crohane or Killcrohane or anything remotely resemblingsame.

Richard J. Gleason"

[this is not quite correct re: MacLysaght, as those of you who read theposting on MacCroghan etc. know, but it's not right to look a gifthorse inthe mouth, or however that saying goes ....]

 

 

  From:        Julie_Case@prodigy.com (MS JULIA M CASE)Add to Address

        Book   Date:        Wed, 28 Oct 1998 21:09:17, -0500

 Subject:        RootsWeb Review, Vol. 1, No. 20    To:        RootsWeb-Review@rootsweb.com

ROOTSWEB REVIEW: Genealogical Data Cooperative News

Vol. 1, No. 20, 28 October 1998; Circulation: 224,200+

Copyright (c) 1998 RootsWeb Genealogical Data Cooperative

 

Out of sheer genealogical frustration, some of it centered around

the non-indexed Morrow County, Ohio 1850 census, I took this

county on and am more than three-fourths finished with it. Today,

while tearing along, I got into that meditative census-

transcription state, and suddenly solved one of my thorniest

problems. How? I noticed that four women in one township were of

a similar age, had hauntingly familiar first names, and all came

from New Hampshire. One of them was the woman whose parents I

sought. The other three, incredibly, all married men named

GRANDY. I went to the International Genealogical Index (IGI) and

found that many GRANDYs were married to BROCKWAYs. I remembered I

had seen Brockways buried near my mystery woman's daughter. And

bingo! With confirmation from the Brockway mailing list at

RootsWeb, I have her parents and, since her dad was a

Revolutionary War soldier, got generations back to the 1600s. I

would not have figured this out without the slow trudging that

the transcriptions require.

 

It occurred to me that having the census in database form is very

powerful. Have you realized you could easily, by importing your

.dbf into another program, hunt for everybody named Joseph who is

between 12 and 15 years of age? Or everybody from Ireland whose

first name is John? This would be a way to catch some of your

misspelled and lost relatives, and another reason to transcribe

the census.

                         Jane Peppler <jpeppler@acpub.duke.edu>

 

[Jane Peppler is a USGenWeb Archives Census Project volunteer.

The foregoing is an abbreviated version of a message Jane posted

on the CENS-CART-L@rootsweb.com mailing list. Thanks to Kay Mason

<kmfkm@ptw.com> for bringing it to our attention.]

 

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From:        Fatarm@aol.comAdd to Address Book

   Date:        Thu, 29 Oct 1998 00:23:22 EST

 Subject:        [CRYAN-L] Lands held by the O'Crean Family, Part 2

    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

(Last of this source -- some of you may recognize the place names,

others maynot be able to link to these places)

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

Parish of Calry - *Cartronnogrogagh*, [footnote: In the parish of

Ahamlishthere is a townland named Grogagh] 1/4; sett to undertenants for 5

pounds perannum, and all countrey chardges ... and is worth 7 pounds 11 shillings

perannum.  Lecarownotullagha, 1/2 qr.; worth 9 pounds per annum.

Clogherbeg, 1qr.; ... It is some rockey grounde, it hath good shelter, and good

tuffe, 6dayes mowinge, it will grase 100 cowes, and is worth 20 pounds per

annum.Cloghermore, 1 qr.; ... set to undertenants for 17 pounds per annum and

country chardges, with 4 barrells of malt, 8 fatt muttons, 12 medders of

butter, 24 medders of meale, the third parte to be wheat, a chosher at

Christmas.  It is some parte rockey ground, it hath good shelter, and

goodturffe, 5 dayes mowinge, it will grase 100 cowes, and is worth 20

pounds perannum.  *Colgoder* [Probably Colgagh], 1/2 qr.; worth 10 pounds 4

shillingsper annum.  Kineltin, 1 qr.; it is worth 20 pounds per annum.

Carignogroagh,1/4 qr.; worth 6 pounds 10 shillings per annum.  *Lecarowclunestallan*,

1/2qr.; Annagh (now Hazlewood), 1 qr.; *Killbride*, 1 qr.; These 3 qrs.

and 1/2(?) is the inheritance of Andrew O'Crean, Esq., whoe setts them to

undertenants for 40 pounds per annum and 10 barrells of malt, 10

muttons, 100workmen, 20 medders of butter, 40 medders of meale; it is some part good

arrable land, hath good turffe and shelter and heathy grounde, it will

grase200 cowes, and it is worth 49 pounds 13 shillings per annum.

*Lissacopan* and*Carrownoughter*, 5 cartrons; ... set to undertenants for 21 pounds per

annum... it is good arrable land, it hath good turffe, 5 days mowinge, it

willgrase 120 cowes and it is worth 25 pounds per annum.  Srabraghan [now

writtenRathbraghan], 1 qr.; Saununighteragh, 1 qr.; sett to undertenants for 32

pounds per annum.  It is all good arrable land, uppon the qr. of

Shrabraghanther is a good English mill, one of the best in the country: for duties

hegetts in these 2 qrs. 8 barrells of malt, 16 medders of butter, 32

medders ofmeale, 8 fatt muttons, 40 workmen.  It hath good turffe, 12 days mowing

ofgood low meddow, it will grase 120 cowes and is worth 38 pounds per

annum.

Parish of Killaspugbrone. - Gransagh, 4 qrs.; John O'Crean ... bought

it fromSr. Robert Kinge, Knt.; it is all good arrable land, and some heathy

ground,it hath good turffe and meaddowes; the said John getts in these 4 qrs.

the somof 16 barrells of malt, 16 fatt muttons, 16 medders of butter, 64

medders ofmeale, 8 workmen; it will grase 400 cowes, and it is worth 100 pounds

perannum.

Barony of Tirerrill, Parish of Kilmacallan - Arkneskin, 1 qr.; ... it

is aspongey ground and great store of heath ... it hath a weare of Eeles

upponUnshinagh.

Parish of Killadoon - Moore, 1/2 qr. (now Ballindoon); ... it hath good

turffeand (a) good spring with a mill uppon it ... and is worth 7 pounds per

annumby reason of the burialls in the Abbey and the benefitt of the mill.

 

 

 

 Reply-To:          "Family History" < >

    From:          "Family History" < >Add to Address Book

    Date:          Thu, 29 Oct 1998 13:47:51 -0000

  Subject:          [CRYAN-L] BOYLE - Part 2      To:          CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Extract from the Parliamentary Gazeteer for 1842-4

Boyle Town     Public Buildings

The old bridge of Boyle, situated nearly in the middle of the town,consistsof 5 rather low arches; and has , on its upper side , within a strongcageof palisade work, and on a low pedestal, a statue of William III . Thenewbridge, situated 500 yards lower down, between the barrack and theabbey,consists of a single arch. The new sessions-house stands on the slopeof thehill, fronting the street which runs from the southend of the oldbridge,

and was built at an estimated expense of £800 to the county, aided by£500

and a free site from Lord Lorton. The old session-house , a decayededificein the street or road which passes the barrack, serves for the uses oftheSavings'-bank, the Charitable Loan office, the infants-schools, andpublicmeetings for charitable and religious purposes. the bridewell (jail) isattached to the new sessions-house, and was built at an estimated

expense of£1039 17s 19d.; it contains 2 day-rooms, 8 cells, and 2 yards; but is

keptin an irregular and filthy state, and has a pressing need for reform.The

barrack was originally the residence of the Earl of Kingston.  Theparishchurch,(CoI) , situated somewhat on the crest of the hill on the northsideof the town, and on the old road to Sligo, is a capacious building, ingoodorder, but exhibits little archetectural taste. The Roman CatholicChapel isvery plain, though large structure.

The Abbey:

The ruins of Boyle Abbey are situated in an enclosure about 100 yardsnorth-north-west of the new bridge, and almost close to the new road toSligo. The best view of them from ithout the enclosure , is obtainednearthe entrance-gate of the house of Lord Lorton's agent, and is thusdescribedby Mr Weld: "The part seen here consists entirely of the church andsteeple,

the latter rising in the centre, the north transept extending to theleft,and the nave of the church to the right, under an angular point ofview. Nospacious or ornamented windows are observable, neither is thereintricacy orvariety in the parts; but the general effect of the ruins is solemn andimposing, and the lofty vaults of the circular arches in three of thesidesof the steeple soaring above the tops of the adjacent trees ,communicateand air of grandeur to the edifice, which otherwise it might not beconsidered to possess.  The steeple is a square tower of about 25feetin theinterior, rudely built in the upper parts andterminating abruptly.An abundance of ivy fringes the summit of the walls; and, although thetreeswhich shade the ruin are neither very large nor old, yet they aredisposedin a manner which contributes essentially to the embellishment of thescene."The views within the enclosure are of an altogether different characterfromthat on the outside, and possess in the aggregate a large degree of

interest; but they comprise too many details to be of succinct notice.The Church is cruciform, and measures from east to west 131 feet, with abreadth of 25, and from north to south, or along the transepts,50 feet,witha breadth of 22. the western window was a single, small lancet-shapedopening, with carvings,now much worn on the exterior; and the eastern

windowconsists of three lancet-shaped compartments, theone of which waslarger than the others.In the north side of the nave is the burying-vault of the King family,enclosed by a railing.The abbey , though a fine building , never possessed some features ofarchitectural excellence ascribed to it by Archdall and the editor ofGrose,and differs sowidely from the account of it given by these writers as torender their descriptions mere fancy-writing or caricature.It belonged to the Cistertian order of St Bernard. Peter Mordha, itsfirst

abbot, and reputedly a man of great learning, was promoted to the see ofClonfert, and in 1171, was drowned in the Shannon. Yet theestablishment, asit existed under him, was founded in 1148, at a place calledGrollechdina;and, as Boyle Abbey, it was founded in 1161 by his successor, as anoffset,or daughter of the abbey of Mellifont. So at least says the HiberniaDominicana; which, however is not much to be trusted, and which treats

us toa long detail of annals, containing hardly a line worth quoting.In 1603, the abbey, with some of its largest estates, was granted to SirJohn King, the ancestor of the Earl of Kingston and Lord Lorton.

 

End of Part 2 ,  to come - Poor Law Union etc, Trade, Municipal Affairs,

Statistics.

I do hope that all this typing is worth it and someone is receivingthis. Itis a little like casting a bottle with a message into the ocean andhoping!!!!!!Please do react - is it boring , useful ,interesting, irrelevant, a sideissue, or even, as I find it , quite fascinating to hear a contemporaryaccount ???This is now too long for one posting, Cherio for now, Eve

 

  From:        Crogmos@aol.comAdd to Address Book

   Date:        Thu, 29 Oct 1998 10:53:46 EST Subject:        [CRYAN-L] Croghan references 1851 census ( Norfolk, Devon        and Warwickshire )    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

 

I have just acquired this census on CD rom and carried out a search forCrighans and related names, here is what I found :-

Mary Anne Crogham, age 15 ,nursery maid in the household of the Earl of

Leicester, Holkham Norfolk.born Shobdon, Hereford.

Thomas Crogan, Head, M, age 40 Pensioner from the army, born Ireland

Margret Rose Crogan, Wife age20, Born Ireland.

Elizabeth Crogan, daughter, age 1, Born Birmingham Warks.

Living at 1court, 7 house Cheapside, St. Martin Birmingham.

Luke Crogan lodger, age35. agricultural labourer, born Ireland. Living

atCourt17 No 2Great Hampton Street, Birmingham.

Edward Crohen Head, age52, Labourer, Born Ireland

Catherine Crohen wife Age46 , born Ireland

Patt Crohen, son age14, Metal roller, born Ireland

Mary Crohen daughter, age12, Pearl button maker, born Ireland

Edward Crohen son ,age 9, Pearl button maker. born Ireland

All living at No 4 house No 31 Court, Livery Street, Birmingham

Phillippa Crogan Head Married, age36 born Grampound Cornwall

Edwin Crogan son, age9, scholar, born Devonport, Devon.

Ann M. Crogan daughter, age 7 Scholar, born Devonport Devon.

Perhaps this information could be useful, I have the folio numbers if

needed.Best wishes Pat Moseley

 

From:        "Cook, Jonathan A (HUK)" <cookja3@texaco.com>Add to Address

        Book   Date:        Thu, 29 Oct 1998 10:59:34 -0600

 Subject:        [CRYAN-L] CRYAN IN CO. SLIGO    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

 

INFORMATION HELD BY MYSELF:

PARISH OF TOOMOUR (KEASH), CO. SLIGO

TAKEN FROM 1901 CENCUS

 

TOWNLAND        HEAD OF HOUSEHOLD FIRST

Broher                  1.      John Cryan      age 24

                                Bridget Cryan   age 21 sister

                                2.      Patrick Cryan   age 65

                                        Mary Cryan      age 12 daughter

                                3.      Michael Cryan   age 45

                                        Kate Cryan      age 44 wife

                                        Mary Anne       age 7 daughter

                                4.      Margaret Cryan  age 74

                                        James Cryan     age 31 son

                                        Michael Cryan   age 30 son

                                        Ann Cryan       age 28 daughter

                                5.      James Cryan     age 84

                                        Agatha Cryan    age 67 wife

                                        Andrew Cryan    age 36 son

Dernaskeagh             1.      Honour Cryan    age 80

                                        Margaret Cryan  age 70

Cletty                  1.      Thomas Cryan    age 60

                                Mary Cryan      age 50 wife

Carrowcrory             1.      John Cryan      age 45

                                        Ann Cryan (Taheny) age 48

                                        (Married 1872)

                                2.      Bridget Cryan   age 70

                                        Mathew Cryan    age 39 son

                                        Mary Cryan      age 30 daughter

                                3.      Michael Cryan   age 80 (died1905)  

                                        Catherine Cryan age 70

                                        John (Big)      age 45 (was Justice of the Peace)

                                        Winifred Cryan  age 27

                                4.      Patrick Cryan   age 70

                                5.      Mary Cryan      age 85 mother

                                        John Cryan      age 62 son

                                        Bridget Cryan   age 56daughter-in-law (single name also Cryan)

                                        Pat Cryan       age 21grandchild

                                        Mary Cryan      age 16 granchild

                                6.      Mary Cryan      age 65

                                        Michael Cryan   age 28 son

Derrygolagh             1.      Patrick Cryan   age 63

                                        Mary Cryan      age 53 wife

                                        Bridget Cryan   age 22 daughter

                                        Pat Cryan       age 19 son

                                        Thomas Cryan    age 17 son

                                2.      Ceceila Cryan   age 69

                                        Bridget Cryan   age 42 daughter

                                        Norra Cryan     age 26 daughter

                                3.      Martin Cryan    age 85 (Weaver)

                                4.      Patrick (Strong) Cryan  age 75

                                        John Cryan      age 35 son

                                        James Cryan     age 30

                                        Elenor Cryan    age 25

                                5.      Mathew Cryan    age 70

                                        Catherine Crayn (McDonnagh) age60 wife

                                        Mathew Cryan    age 30 son

                                        Kate Cryan      age 26 daughter

                                6.      Patrick (Gildea) Cryan  age 66

                                        Annie Cryan (O'Connor)  age 55wife

                                        John Cryan      age 27 son

                                        James Cryan     age 23 son

                                        Rodger Cryan    age 20 son

                                        Jane Cryan      age 14 daughter

                                        Anne Cryan      age 12 daughter

Tully                   1.      Patrick Cryan   age 23

                                Michael Cryan   age 19 brother

                                        (died 21/6/1940 Sligo MentalHospital)

                                        Daniel Cryan    age 15 brother

                                        Joseph Cryan    age 12 brother

                                        Jane Cryan      age 22 sister

                                        Elizabeth Cryan age 17 sister

                                        N.B. All above are children of

Pat Cryan and Ann Kielty of Knockbrack  

                                2.      Michael Cryan   age 44

                                        Margaret Cryan  age 30 wife

                                        Dan Cryan       age 2 son

                                        Margaret Cryan  age 5 daughter

                                        Beezy Cryan     age 40 sister

Tonaonra                1.      John Cryan      age 56

                                        Mary Cryan      age 50 wife

                                        John Cryan      age 25 son -died 31/8/1938

                                        Mary Anne Cryan age 22 daughter

                                        Henry Cryan     age 15 son

                                        Delia Cryan     age 13 daughter

                                        Norra Cryan     age 4

Carrowreagh             1.      Martin Cryan    age 47

                                        Mathew Cryan    age 13 son

                                        Thomas Cryan    age 11 son

                                        Bridget Cryan   age 4 daughter

                                        Mary Cryan      age 9 daughter

                                        Martin Cryan    age 2 son

                                        Maggie Cryan    age 32 wife

PARISH OF DRUMRAT

TAKEN FROM 1901 CENCUS

TOWNLAND        HEAD OF HOUSEHOLD FIRST

Killsalagh                              1.              Thomas Cryanage 54

                                                                (ParentsPat Cryan & Mary Killgran)

                                                                MargaretCryan (McGlynn) age 50 wife

                                                                JamesCryan           age 27 son

                                                                MaryCryan           age 20 daughter

                                                                PatrickCryan   age 13 son

                                                2.              MaryCryan (Cook) age 65

Listrush                                1.              Catherine Cryanage 40

                                                                (Wife ofJohn Mullowney)

                                                2.              BridgetCryan   age 80

Clooncaltry                     1.              Patrick Cryan   age 50

                                                        Catherine Cryan (Callaghais) age 50 wife

                                                                MaryAnne Cryan       age 17 daughter

                                                                KateCryan  age 15 daughter

                                                                PatCryan     age 13 son

                                                                JohnCryan  age 11 son

                                                                AnnHiggins         age 60 ?

Daughloonagh                    1.              James Cryanage 35

                                                     MaryCryan (Breheny) age 35 wife

                                                                BridgetCryan   age 12 daughter

                                                                KateCryan   age 11 daughter

                                                                JohnCryan           age 10 son     

Knockbrack                      1.              Pat Cryanage 52

                                                                (ParentsDaniel Cryan & Mary Breheny of Tully)

                                                                AnnCryan           age 50 wife

                                                                JohnCryan           age 15 son     

Patrick Cryans

 

 

From:        "Cook, Jonathan A (HUK)" <cookja3@texaco.com>Add to Address

        Book   Date:        Thu, 29 Oct 1998 11:01:51 -0600 Subject:

        [CRYAN-L] RECORDS HELD BY MYSELF    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

RECORDS HELD BY MYSELF

Deaths in Ireland for Cryan's 1864-1901

Marriages in Ireland for Cryan's 1864-1901

Tithe Applotment Records for the Parishes of Drumrat, Toomore, Killfree,

Kilcolman for Cryan's.

Cencus of 1911 for Cryan's in Carrowcrory, Broher, Derrygolagh, Tully

Griffith's Valuation of Ireland for Cryan's in Co. Sligo

Reference my own family they emigrated to Glasgow and did not return. 

I obtained their original home County from the 1881 Cencus returns of

Glasgow. 

The "s" was put on our name in error by a Belgium Priest in Glasgow.

Judge is the English equivalent of Breheny which some of the Irish used,

and this is where the Owen came in, I believe. 

 

Regarding the Deaths of Pat Cryan you sent:

1892    Culfadda, Drumrat - Sligo

1883    Broher, Keash - Sligo

1891    Ardmoyle, Ballinameen - Roscommon               

Patrick Cryans

 

From:        "Cook, Jonathan A (HUK)" <cookja3@texaco.com>Add to Address

        Book   Date:        Thu, 29 Oct 1998 11:04:13 -0600

 Subject:        [CRYAN-L] DANIEL CRYAN/MARGARET McDONNAGH

    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Information held by myself:

Two of his sons resided in Glasgow, Scotland last century.  From my

records the following are selected:

 

* JOHN CRYAN

b.1835 approx

m.1859 Glasgow (Paisley)

d.1877 Glasgow

Wife Mary Christie

Children -      Mary Cryan              1860 15 June

                Margaret Cryan  1862 5 March

                Daniel Cryan            1863 12 December

                Patrick Cryan           1866 17 March

                Henry Cryan             1868 25 March

                John Cryan              1870 25 April

                Catherine Cryan 1872 27 August

 

* BROTHER - MARTIN

b. 4 August 1823

Wife Mary Leonard

Children -      John Cryan              1853

                Michael Cryan           1856

                Martin Cryan            1861   

                Mary Cryan              1864

                Martin and his family left Glasgow for Dakota in 1874

NOTE: Daniel Cryan of Tully was married to Mary Breheny

Patrick Cryans

From:  "Cook, Jonathan A (HUK)" <cookja3@texaco.com>Add to Address

        Book   Date:  Thu, 29 Oct 1998 11:06:00 -0600

 Subject:    [CRYAN-L] 1885 landholders of viscount Lorton

    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

 

1885 LAND HOLDERS OF VISCOUNT LORTON

CARROWCRORY             Daniel Cryan

                                                Pat         "

                                                Michael  "

                                                Mary      "

                                                Bridget   "

                                                Michael  "

                                                John       "

BROHER                          Thomas   "

                                                Pat              "

                                                Mary        "

                                                James       "

                                                P.              "

                                                J.              "

DERRYGOLAGH                   Martin      "

                                                James       "

                                                Pat         "

                                                Pat         "

                                                Mathew    "

TULLY                                   Pat         "

                                                Daniel      "

TONAPONRA                       Mathew    "

TUMORE                               P Cryne

Patrick Cryans

 

From:        "Cook, Jonathan A (HUK)" <cookja3@texaco.com>Add to Address

        Book   Date:        Thu, 29 Oct 1998 11:20:13 -0600

 Subject:   [CRYAN-L] INFO REGARDING CRYANS OF

        TONAPONRA

    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

 

Regarding the Cryan's of Tonoponra they don't appear on the Tithe

Applotment records 1830/34 so they must have moved between then and 1858

(Griffith's Valuation) from the Keash area.

1901 Cencus extract for the above:

John Cryan            Head            Age 56  Died 20/9/1928

Mary Cryan (O'Neill)    Wife            Age 50  Died 28/9/1912

John Cryan              Son             Age 25  Died 31/8/1938

Mary Anne Cryan Daughter        Age 22  Died 5/9/1937

Henry Cryan             Son             Age 15 

Delia Cryan             Daughter        Age 13

Nora Cryan              Daughter        Age 4

Other sources for Tonoponra:

Martin Cryan            Died 3/12/1921  age 38

Stephen Cryan           Died 5/5/1987   age 69

* I believe one of the following could be his father

Mathew Cryan            b.1811  died 1891       age 80

Mathew Cryan            b. 1818 died 1898       age 80

Church of Bonninadan Tobercurry:

Marriage 10th May 1874 

John Cryan      Age 27  Origin Knopora  Parents Mathew

Mary O'Neill    Age 21  Origin Dacloon          Parents Arthur

Patrick Cryans

From:        ljstandak@webtv.net (Lyle Staehnke)Add to Address Book

   Date:        Thu, 29 Oct 1998 15:15:32 -0800 (PST)

 Subject:        [CRYAN-L] RE:Danial Cryan wife Margaret McDonagh

    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Jonathan Cook,, What a gold mine of information you shared with us..Ithank you very much,you evidently have done a lot of research,I don`tknow if you read my web page or not (http://members.tripod.com/~havana_2/index.html ) but I also mention Johnand Martin Cryan of Glasgow Scotland.. Their Dad Danial is my GreatGrandfather.. And I`m still in the process of trying to find out exactlywhere they lived in Ireland and what year they left..They settled inMorrisburgh Canada (Ontario) that is they were in the 1850 census there

also 1861,1871 then in 1881 a little North of there in Osnabruck..Ihaven`t been able to find a date of death for Danial either orlocation...If you run across any more info on them,I would be veryinterested... Thanks again  Lyle

 

Reply-To:          "Family History" < >

    From:          "Family History" < >Add to Address Book

    Date:          Fri, 30 Oct 1998 09:56:14 -0000

  Subject:          [CRYAN-L] New Info on Keash

      To:          CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Hi Patrick,

Thank you so much for all the information that you sent yesterday. Itlooksto be priceless treasure and will serve well for linking all the familygroups. You must have been researching for a long time and have somegoodcontacts for advice. I am so eager to get at the parish records, whichwillgive the generation before the ones listed or at least the births of

thoseaged about 60 and their parents. to quote/ misquote: - "one small step for history but one giant leapforcryankind"Thank you , Eve

From:        Fatarm@aol.comAdd to Address Book   Date:

        Fri, 30 Oct 1998 12:26:40 EST    To:        caoimhghin@yahoo.com

 Subject:        Mormon printout

That's okay -- I was hoping I didn't have to put in the rest of thedates, andas I can't see any point, I'll skip it.  I'm becoming wayyyyy behind,especially with the flurry of postings of late.  But I suppose it wouldbe abad idea to ask folks to slow down, huh?  ;)Michael Tobin wrote to me that he got involved with researching hisCryan lineafter the death of his father, too.  It's interesting how death seemsto causea lot of us to seek a connection with our past.  I've learned so muchwhiledoing this research I'm half angry at myself for not having begun

sooner.Both my grandfathers died young and suddenly before I was born -- I was

about30 years old when I first saw a photo of the one and asked who he was.

Myfamily tends not to talk of painful things, but as a result, I don'tknow

either of my genetic grandfathers at all.Between learning of my grandfathers as I interview family members,learningwhat it means to be an IRISH RC (I think most Irish would laugh at meif theysaw me calling myself that-I grew up in a Jewish neighborhood andidentified

myself as Irish RC to avoid being yelled at for not knowing yiddish andplaying outside on Saturdays), and learning about my husband'sprotestantroots, I think I'm learning who I am more than learning about myancestorssometimes.  Not a bad idea for a descendant of the Cryan, Murphy,Kiernan,Kennedy, and Smyth families, huh?

 

By the way, since you're an expert, is it *wrong* to refer to the Irishlanguage as gaelic?  I got reemed-out a bit by that Crohane Daly guy formaking a reference to gaelic.  He didn't take to me in general, andbasicallytold me I was clueless if MacLysaght didn't clear up the confusion inoursurname.  Just thought I'd try and get my language a little moreprecise ....

Leslie

 

From:        Fatarm@aol.comAdd to Address Book

   Date:        Fri, 30 Oct 1998 13:06:17 EST Subject:        [CRYAN-L] Locations being researched, admin, and Digest mode    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

A new joinee, and experienced researcher and mailing list administrator,suggested I update the taglines with some of the locations we areresearchingin Ireland.  While I think I managed to squeeze most of the Irelandlocationsinto one tagline (size is limited to three lines, 72 columns), I begantorealize that I don't have locations for everyone's ancestors.  I placed

allthe North Americans in another group, and the elsewhere in the worldfolks inyet another.

     For those of you with Welsh, Scottish, and Australian locations,couldyou be more specific about where?  And although I noted "Roscommon" forseveral researchers, I didn't note townlands or parishes for most ofyou, soplease resend.  I'll try and put together a better list to post here sothatwe can skip the taglines (they're small and a pain to update

constantly).And, in case it isn't clear,  taglines are those messages at the end of

postings.     Please also keep an eye out for the surname listing tagline -- ifI'vemissed your spelling on a surname, please let me know.  This is onethat isimportant to keep updated!

     I've really enjoyed the listings on Boyle and Sligo over the pastweek.I really enjoy reading "original" sources such as the description onBoyle,Eve, so don't hesitate to post such things.  It's a nice break fromnames anddates.  Not that anything's wrong with names and dates .... the Sligolistingsare more than welcome!!  Thanks for sharing so much data, Patrick.  Andnowthat I've read your explanation of the CryanS, I'm thrilled that you

sharedthe story of how the S got appended to your ancestor's surname (I'llupdate

the surname tagline soon).     Please welcome subscribers #37 and #38.  However, about 10 folkshave yetto post their research line, interests or stuck-at points.     And, for those of you concerned about the explosion in ourmailboxes oflate, there is another way to receive the mailing list -- as bundles ofemail,called digests or digest mode.  Instead of receiving individual emails,several are bound together based on size and time.  For example, let's

say twoemails get sent one day to the list that are each 8K -- they'd arrivein yourmailbox as one piece of mail.  If, however, only one piece of mail getssentduring a three day period, you get it at the end of that periodregardless ofthe size of the emails accumulated.  Some folks find it a moreconvenient wayto receive talkative lists.  They are labeled as volumes (we're in vol.98because of the year), and the messages are numbered as well as subject

line'd.     To change to digest mode, subscribe to Cryan-D:  send email to"Cryan-D-

request@rootsweb.com" with the sole word "subscribe" in the messagebody (allwithout quotes).  Once you have received your subscription confirmationfromthe rootsweb server, then unsubscribe from Cryan-L:  send email to"Cryan-L-request@rootsweb.com" with the sole word "unsubscribe" in the messagebody(again, all without quotes).  Or, of course, you can just email me andask meto do it ... ugh, manually ... not to influence your choice or anything  ;)

--Leslie

 

From:        RuthK3834@aol.comAdd to Address Book   Date:        Fri, 30 Oct 1998 13:18:52 EST Subject:        [CRYAN-L] Relisting for the Newbies    To

        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Hi all,My name is Ruth and I am researching both Cregan and Regan. Catherine Cregan born about 1843 in Ireland.  Died in NYC in 1917She had four children: Patrick born in Limerick in 1862. Died in NYC in1911.Nellie born in Limerick in about 1870. Married John Regan in about1884.  Shehad two sons.  John and Edmund. She died in April of 1945

Michael Cregan born in Limerick.  He married a lady named Mary. Livedin theEast 90's in Manhattan, NYCCatherine Cregan daughter, married a Tierney and lived in Brooklyn, NY

James O'Regan born in Castlelyons, County Cork, Ireland in about 1796.He was

a stonemason by trade. His wife was Hannorah, born about 1797 in thesamearea.  They lived in Saugerties, NY with their daughter Hannorah andtheir sonJohn. John was a stonemason as well.  He dropped the O and became JohnRegan.

Nellie Cregan was his second wife.  He was originally married toBridget Barry

of Watergrasshill, County Cork, Ireland. 

 

==== CRYAN Mailing List ====

Areas in Eire being researched: Bandon and Glounthaune, Cork;

Castlebar, Mayo; Wexford; Dingle Peninsula; Caherciveen, Kerry; Glin,

Limerick; Donegal; Nenagh, Tipperary; Ballybane, Galway; Keash, Sligo;

Co. Rosc.

 

Date:        Sat, 31 Oct 1998 08:08:50 -0800 (PST)

  From:        Caoimhghin O Croidheain <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>Add to

To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject:        Unidentified subject!

hiStill havnt got all full refs but for those interested in early Creans:

Dermot Mac Dermot 'Mac Dermot of Moylurg: The Story of a Connacht

Family'Drumlin Publs., Nure, Manorhamilton, Co. Leitrim pp.394-6 (no

year)3 full pages on creans

 

Thomas S. Flynn O.P. 'The Irish Dominicans 1536-1641'

(Andrew o'crean Bishop 1562-94 and the conflict of ecclesiastical

jurisdictions)pp 63-67

 

Members interests Directory 1992 issn 079-7503Irish Family History

Society po box 36, Naas co Kildare

refs for crine /crean/ crian

sli 1825p            678

ros  1825p            678

eng 1825p    Lancashire 678

page no's I presume??

Caoimhghin O Croidheain

 

Date:        Sat, 31 Oct 1998 09:49:06 -0800  From:        Kay Frith Allen <fullspec@sunset.net>Add to Address Book

 Subject:        [CRYAN-L] CREGAN

    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Hi,

So glad this list was started.  I am having a very difficult timetrying tofind info on my Cregan ancestors.  This is all I know at the present:My ggrandfather, James Cregan b. 1853 Ireland (Londonderry, I think)cameto America in 1890 with his wife, Bridget Mary Manley Cregan, and fouryoung children, James, Catherine, Margaret, and Mary.  They had livedin

Liverpool, England prior to immigrating.....all the children were bornthere.  They settled in Chicago where a relative of Bridget lived, aJohnMelvin (Bridget's mother's maiden name). A fifth child, Thomas Cregan,wasborn in Chicago in 1891.  Bridget died in 1894 and the children wereplacedin orphanages or other homes.  That's where I lost track of all the

children until they were adults.I would like to find out where James was born and who his parents werebutI'm not very proficient at searching in Ireland and I don't have a lot

of$$$ to spend on professional researchers.  Kay Allenfullspec@sunset.net

Chico, CA

 

From:        "Roger Cryan and Regina Pana-Cryan" <cryan@avana.net>Add to

        Address Book   Date:        Sun, 1 Nov 1998 10:59:55 -0500 Subject:        [CRYAN-L] From Sligo to Boyle in 1850's    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

This is my first posting, although Caoimhghin O Croidheain (KevinCryan)

sent in the following on my family:

Roger Cryan

Email: cryan@avana.net

James Cryan  m.(m.c.1853) Honoria Byrne,

Children- Mchael (b.1854, Boyle >USA), James (b.1859, Boyle), John

(b.1865, Boyle), John (b.1866, Boyle), Martin (b.1861 or 67, Boyle

>USA), Brigid (b.1856, Boyle) and Mary Jane (b.1869, Boyle)

 

Here are some additional details:

The 1853 marriage of James Cryan and Honoria (Honora) Byrne (Bierne)(alternate spellings in alternate documents) was in the Kilfree andKilaragt R.C. Parish of County Sligo, which was much larger that it isnow.

 

The children were, it seems, born in Boyle parish, Ballinanultaghtownland,and the name is still on the farm (although through a complicatedpassing-down to distant (?) relatives).  According to relatives of the present holder of the land, my great-great-grandfather James came toBallinulty (another alternate spelling) from County Sligo with theRorke

family.  The dates of the marriage and the baptisms suggest the movewasmade in 1853 or 1854.  Ballinanulty is only a few miles from the Sligoline, so the move might have been a big one or a small one.

 

My great grandfather Martin Cryan, his brother Michael Cryan, and hissister Mary Jane all came to Lowell, Massachusetts, although Mary Janereturned to Boyle.  Both Martin and Michael had numerous children.My grandfather also remembered an Aunt Delia in Lowell, although shedoesn't seem to match up with the rest.  James inherited the farm and married a Cryan from Sligo and had nochildren. John never married.Brigid (I think) married a man named Welsh and moved to the North.Mary Jane (I think) never married.

 

I won't detail any more generations, for the privacy of the living; ifyou're looking to find a connection through the Lowell Cryans, pleasecontact me directly.

 

THE NEXT STEP (OR CAN SOMEONE HELP ME?)

I don't know where these Cryans came from in Sligo, which might leadbackto previous generations.  There are at least two possible sources forthisinformation:

1.  Paddy Rorke, who was living in Boyle in 1997, is the grandson (?)

of

the Rorke (the first name is on the 1857 Griffith's valuation for

Ballinulty along with James Cryan; I have it but can't find it right

now)who came to Boyle with James Cryan.  He might know something about

this; ifsomeone comes across him, please ask him.

 

2.  The estate records for the Viscount Lorton for 1853-54.  I can only

assume, based on the large size of Lorton's estate (which covered most

ofnorth Roscommon and large areas of Sligo and Leitrim) that James

Cryan'sparents were also his tenants, and that some record of the origin of

JamesCryan or his compatriot Rorke is made in the estate records.  The 1857

Griffith's valuation suggests that Rorke and Cryan each held an

individualtenancy and that they shared another.  If anyone (Kevin?) is looking

through the Lorton estate records, please see if there is anything on

thismove.  This could tie my branch into big tree that someone has

discussedputting together to see where we all fit.

I hope some of this has been of help to others, and that someone can

tellme a thing or two.                Familially yours,                Roger Cryan

 

Date:        Sun, 01 Nov 1998 16:53:55 -0500  From:        Dana Puopolo <puopolo@cris.com>Add to Address Book Subject:        [CRYAN-L] Patrick Cryan family-Sligo>MA,USA    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Hi.  I am pretty new to the list.  My Cryans also came from Co. Sligo.

This is my info-

Patrick S. Cryan b. Mar. 1, 1870 in Co. Sligo came to Swampscott, MA,

USA in 1879.  D. Aug. 3, 1949.

 He married Nora Drislane and had Mary E. Cryan b. 1905, John Stephen

Cryan b. 1902, Patrick H. Cryan, and Henry Cryan.

John Stephen Cryan, my ggrandfather, m. Margaret Daugherty.  Their

children were Barbara Cryan b. 1931 d/ 1983 and Marjorie Cryan.

Barbara Cryan m. Angelo Valentino Puopolo.

 

My family says that we have cousins in Lowell, MA, which is about 2 hrs

away, but no one seems to quite know how they are related.  I haven't

ever met any of these people.On another note, I have found somewhere that Crynes, Crean, Creaghan,O'Crean and Crehan are all forms of Cryan.Thanks,

Erica puopolo@cris.com

 

 

From:        Voltene@aol.comAdd to Address Book

   Date:        Sun, 1 Nov 1998 20:10:16 EST Subject:        [CRYAN-L] Martin Cryan of Lowell MA    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

        Martin Cryan, according to his naturalization US Circuit Court,

Boston, MA, 24 Oct. 1889,

        Occupation-  grocer

        Born   Co. Roscommon, Ireland

        Date of Birth,  16 June 1864

         Arrived Boston,   on or about  19 March 1882

------His actual arrival Boston, MA  31 March 1883    at age 19, on"Palastine"

------------------

First mention of Martin Cryan in the Lowell, MA City directories was 

       1884          Cryan, Martin,  clerk at 48 River St.,  boards 50 RiverSt.

1885          Cryan,  Bros. (Martin and Michael),  grocers and

provisions,189 Market St.

1881         Cryan, John M.,  clerk at 50 River St., boards 50 River St

------------------

On   12 Sept. 1893,  Martin Cryan married Margaret Maloney.(Moloney)

        Lowell Daily Courier,  Thursday 14 Sept. 1893

Martin Cryan and Margaret A. Maloney were united in marriage on Tuesday

afternoon at St. Peter's parsonage.  P.F. Cox was best man and MissBridget

Farrell was bridemaid.   There was a reception at the home of thebride'sparents,  30 Whipple Street.

           

--------

Obituary

Lowell Sun,   27 Mar 1936

       Martin Cryan, widely known merchant, died this morning at hishome, 90

White street,  following a long illness.   Mr. Cryan was a member ofSt.Rita's Church and a resident of the Pawtucketville section of the cityforover 60 years.       He leaves his wife, Margaret A. Moloney Cryan; two daughters,

Mrs.Ralph Corkran and Miss Margaret G. Cryan, a supervisor at the N.E. Tel.

andTel. Co.; three sons,  John J. , Martin C., and James P. Cryan, local

electrician; two sisters,  Mrs. George (Delia) Kinney and Miss Jane Cryan; a

brother, James Cryan,  both of Ireland.     The body was taken to the

O'Connell funeral home, Westford street.

--------------

a little note,   Delia is a nickname for Bridget

---------------

Obituary

Lowell Sun,  25 Apr. 1947

      Mrs. Margaret (Moloney) Cryan,  widow of Martin Cryan and alifelong

resident of this city,  a member of St. Rita's church since itsinception and

formerly residing at 90 White street, Pawtucketville, died last nightafter a

short illness.  Born in Lowell,  she was the daughter of the latePatrick and

Mary (Caffrey) Moloney.         She was a graduate of the Lowell schools and Notre Dame academy.       She is survived by three sons,  John J. Cryan, of Lowell, Martin

C.Cryan of Saugus and James P. Cryan of Lowell; two daughters, Mrs. Ralph

Cockran and Miss Margaret G. Cryan, both of this city; sixgrandchildren and

several nieces and nephews.

----------------------

Obituary

Lowell Sun    Tuesday 3 June 1941

        Mrs. Delia  (Cryan) Kinney,  a well known member of the Sacred

Heartparish, died Monday at her home,  12 Anderson St.Court.   Born in

Ireland, shewas the daughter of the late James and the late Honor (Berne) Cryan. 

Comingto this country about 60 years ago, she settled in this city where she

hasalways made her home.   She was a member of the Holy Rosary Sodality of

theSacred Heart parish.

       She is survived by three daughters, Mrs. Thomas F. Keane and

Mrs. JohnMcGuigan, both of this city,  Mrs. William J. Burns of Fort Devens, and

oneson,  George P. Kinney of Lynn,   two brothers in Ireland, 10

grandchildrenand two grear grandchildren

 

 

 Reply-To:          "Family History" < >

    From:          "Family History" < >Add to Address Book

    Date:          Mon, 2 Nov 1998 11:24:54 -0000

  Subject:          [CRYAN-L] BOYLE town - Part 3

      To:          CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Please note 1. that the Poor Law Union area was the same as the

RegistrationDistrict. Therefore a person registered in "Boyle" could well live in

any ofthe parishes mentioned  ie in Co Sligo, Co Mayo, Co Leitrim or even Co

Roscommon.2. that 20s = £1 and 12d = 1s; s = shilling (now 1s =  5p/new pence);

d = old penny(21/2d=1p) approx._

Extract from The Parliamentary Gazetteer 1840 -42

Boyle Town

Poor Law Union etc.

The Boyle Poor Law Union ranks as the 64th, and was declared on Aug.20,1839. It comprehends 283 square miles, or 181,293 acres, with apopulationin 1832, of 65,662. The electoral divisions which compose it areShancough,Kilmactranny, Ballinafad, Toomour, and Kilshaloy,in the Co of Sligo;Kilturid, Coolarin, and Kilfree, in the counties of Sligo and Mayo; andBreedogue, Boyle, Ballinameen, Shankill, Croghan, Rockingham, Ardcarne,

andKeadue in the counties of Sligo and Roscommon.Boyle division is represented by three electoral guardians, Keadue bytwo,and each of the other divisions by one; and the number of ex officionguardians is six.The total nett annual value of property rated is £81,262 6s; the totalnumber of persons rated is 11, 763; and of these, 1,811 are rated for avaluation not exceeding £1,- 1,348, not exceeding £2,- 1,311, notexceeding£3, - 1,283 not exceeding £4, - and 1,236, not exceeding £5.The workhouse was contracted for on Feb 8 1840, - to be completed inMarch,1841, - to cost £6,885 14s. for building and completion, and £1414 6sforfittings and contingencies, - to occupy and area of 6 acres, obtainedfor an

annual rent of £30, - and to contain accommodation for 700 paupers. The

dateof the first admission of paupers was Dec. 31 1840; the totalexpenditure

thence till Feb 6 1843, was £2,627 10s 3d.; and the total previousexpenditure  was £454 9s 9d.The dispensary districts are those of Boyle, Cootehall, Croghan and

Keadue;and they comprise an area of 81,741 acres with 41,156 inhabitants,

leavingupwards of one third of the population unprovided.The union contains no fever hospital; and it is so situated as toderive nobenefit from the infirmaries  of the counties in which it lies.The Boyle dispensary has a district of 20,736 acres, with a population

of12, 597; and in 1840-41 received £136 18s., expended £122 7s 01/2d.,

made3,847 dispensations of medecine.A Charitable Loan Fund was established in 1824, was conducted under thepatronage of Lord and lady Lorton, and up to 31st Dec.1829, circulatedundergratuitous management £16,971 in 7,867 loans.

Trade: -

Timber, iron, and other heavy goods are brought from Sligo by

drey-carriage; and the finer articles of British manufacture chiefly from Dublin,

andprincipally by canal. the town is very fairly provided withshops, and

is aconsiderable depot for the retail supply of the surrounding country.

Theordinary market for provisions is held in an oblong enclosure ,

constructedfor the purpose near the bridge; and is supplied well with meat and

fish onrgular days, and partially throughout the week. the staple articles of

cornand butter are in smart demand ; and are sometimes ,at the height of

theseasdon, objects of lively competition between the dealers established

inthe town and those who come over from Sligo.Tradesmen of the ordinary classes, such as carpenters,turners,wheelwrights,masons, stonecutters,smiths,tinworkers,tailors,shoemakes, and coopersarenumerous.

Fairs are held on May 30, July 25, and Oct 1.

Branch offices of the National bank and the Agricultural Bank, were

established in 1836.The head inn, Freeman's, stands near the river, and would be pronouncedgoodin almost any country or district.The public conveyances, in 1838, were a coach to Dublin, a car toLongford,a mail car to Frenchpark, and a mail-coach and a stage-coach in transitbetween Dublin and Sligo.

end for today, Eve

 

From:        "Michael Tobin" <tobinmi@hotmail.com>Add to Address Book

   Date:        Tue, 03 Nov 1998 05:23:00 PST

 Subject:        [CRYAN-L] Re Cryan genealogies

    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

In response to Kevin's posting over a week ago listing the names of

Cryan researchers, I'd like to point out that :-

 

T.G. Cryan, 11 Silver Birches, Dundrum, Dublin 14, IrelandFather- John Gerald Cryan (b.1916, d. 1980) Keash, Ballymote, Co.Sligo. Grandfather- John Cryan, (b. c.1868, d.c. 1945),Keash, Ballymote -(farmer, Councillor).

is on the same line as myself. We made contact during the Summer via Kevin. Thanks Kevin!regardsMichael

 

From:        "Michael Tobin" <tobinmi@hotmail.com>Add to Address Book

   Date:        Tue, 03 Nov 1998 05:24:10 PST

 Subject:        [CRYAN-L] Re BOYLE - Part 2

    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Eve

Thank you for the posts concerning Boyle. I for one, find this

information very useful. Its the sort of information that I read and

then file away for future reference as you never know when I'll need it

again. Please continue to post any information of this nature to the

list as many will find it useful now or later.

regardsMichael

 

From:        "Michael Tobin" <tobinmi@hotmail.com>Add to Address Book

   Date:        Tue, 03 Nov 1998 05:26:49 PST

 Subject:        [CRYAN-L] Re INFO REGARDING CRYANS OF

        TONAPONRA    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Patrick

I don't know where to start. Thank you for all the records which you posted concerning Keash. Much of the information which you posted is very interesting to me as it lists some of my family - and I have lots of questions for you. I would be very very interested in finding outthe sources of your information as you include some new details for me.

In the 1901 census, the family you list in Tonaponra are my line:

    "1901 Cencus extract for the above:

    * John Cryan            Head            Age 56  Died 20/9/1928

    Mary Cryan (O'Neill)    Wife            Age 50  Died 28/9/1912

    John Cryan              Son             Age 25  Died 31/8/1938

    Mary Anne Cryan Daughter        Age 22  Died 5/9/1937

    Henry Cryan             Son             Age 15  

    Delia Cryan             Daughter        Age 13

    Nora Cryan              Daughter        Age 4"

 

Mary Anne was my great-grandmother. Henry was referred to as Harry by

my family - I have yet to figure out why he was listed as Henry on the

1901 census. There were 3 other children in the family - Matthew, Michael

and Martin, all of whom were likely no longer living at home in 1901.

Matthew emigrated to the USA and I have yet to track down his

descendants. Michael owned a shop in Ballymote town and Martin died

from the big flu around 1917-1921. This is more than likely the Martin Cryan

who you've noted as dying on 3/12/1921 age 38.

As a matter of interest, where did you obtain the dates of death that

you've listed? Some of them differ to what I have recorded, although

I've yet to confirm some of mine.

The Stephen Cyran whom you mention died on 5/5/1987 aged 69 is a son of

John Cryan whom you've indicated as died on 31/8/1938.

Regarding your point that the Cryans of Tonaponra don't appear on the

Tithe Applotment records of 1830/34, my Cryan line are reputed to be

from Carrowcrory when you go back several generations. Whether they

were from there in 1830/34 or not, I don't know yet but it is a possibility.

 

You list the marriage details for John Cryan and Mary Anne O'Neil. I

already had this but hadn't got the names of their fathers. Do you

still have the source of that information? I would be very interested in it.

Incidentally, there is a close connection with the Hannon surname at

this level of the family. While I haven't been able to confirm that

they are my ancestors yet, Keash Church records lists a Matthew Cryan who

married a Bridget Hannon on 18 Feb 1944. This date comes just 2 years

before the birth of John Cryan and so its quite possible that its my

ancestor. If you have found evidence that John's father was indeed

Matthew, then its almost certain in my mind that this couple were his

parents.

You name Arthur as the father of Mary Ann O'Neil. Again, I would be

very interested in the source of this information. O'Neil is not a common

name in those parts and I was told that they were originally from Co.

Donegal. I'm not sure how far I have to go back to get the Donegal

connection. I believe that the O'Neil's were farmers in Daughloonagh in

Bunnanaddan (I think its now referred to as Baghloonagh). Mary Ann

O'Neil's father died when she was young and her widowed mother (Norah

Keevins) remarried a John Gallagher (1829:1919).  In Kilaville Church,

which is near Bunnanadden, there is a window donated  by John Gallagher

underneath which reads "Erected by John Gallagher of Daughloonagh in

memory of my wife Norah, my brother Martin and my son Michael".

I would also be very interested in finding out the source of your

information for the 2 Matthew Cryans :-

    Mathew Cryan            b.1811  died 1891       age 80

    Mathew Cryan            b. 1818 died 1898       age 80

Thanks again for all the information which you have posted. It has been

very helpful to me.regardsMichael

 

From:        Wurci2@aol.comAdd to Address Book

   Date:        Tue, 3 Nov 1998 15:49:47 EST Subject:

        [CRYAN-L] Cregan 1860's Ireland query    To:

        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

I'm searching for information on the family of Catherine Cregan.  She

wassupposedly born 08 OCT 1862.  Her parents were Daniel and Margaret

(Moylan {orMullen}) Cregan.  Her husband John Reidy came from Newcastle West,

Limerick soI suppose she was from that vicinity.  They settled in Worcester County

Massachusetts in the 1880's.  I was told she had relatives in New York.

 Anyleads would be appreciated.  Thank you.

 

From:        "Roger Cryan and Regina Pana-Cryan" <cryan@avana.net>Add to

        Address Book Subject:        Fw: [CRYAN-L] From Sligo to Boyle in 1850's

   Date:        Tue, 3 Nov 1998 22:55:24 -0500    To:

        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Thanks much to Voltene for the information on the Lowell Cryans.  Below

Iadd a little more, using Voltene's info and the family history stuff

I'vedug out of its box among boxes.

---------- Roger Cryan  Email: cryan@avana.net

James Cryan (d. before 1901, Boyle)  m.(m.c.1853; Kilfree and Killaragt

R.C. parish, Co. Sligo) Honoria Byrne (or Honora or Honor Bierne),

moved,pr. 1854, to Ballynanulthagh (or Ballinultha) townland; Boyle parish;

Co.Roscommon.

 

Children-

Michael (b.1854, Boyle >USA; d.1885-1936, Lowell, MA USA(?))

James (b.1859, Boyle; d. after 1941, pr. Boyle) m. Ann Cryan (b.

Brougher,Ballinafad, Co. Sligo), no children

John (?) (b.1865, Boyle; d. 1865?)

John (b.1866, Boyle; d. after 1941, pr. Boyle), never married

Martin (b.1861 Boyle, some records say 1864 or 1867 - that is why the

lifeinsurance didn't pay off when he d. 1936 Lowell, MA  USA) arrived in

Bostonon 31 March 1881 aboard the ship "Palastine",

Brigid (or "Delia") (b.1856, Boyle; d. 1941, Lowell, MA USA) m. Kinney;

 Anne (b.1857, Boyle; d. Ulster?); m. Welsh or Walsh and moved to

Ulster.Mary Jane (b.1869, Boyle>Lowell, MA USA>Boyle)

 The Kilfree and Kilaragt R.C. Parish of County Sligo was much larger

thatit is now.Both Martin had numerous children.

When James Cryan moved with his new wife to Ballynanultagh, he came

fromsomewhere in Sligo with a family by the name of Rorke.  There is a

FarrellRorke sharing a lease with James Cryan and a Patrick Rorke on an

adjoining(?) leasehold in the 1857 Griffiths Valuation for the

townland.

 

 

THE NEXT STEP (OR CAN SOMEONE HELP ME?)

I don't know where these Cryans came from in Sligo, which might lead

backto previous generations.  There are at least two possible sources for

thisinformation:

 1.  Paddy Rorke, who was living in Boyle in 1997, is the grandson (?)

ofthe Rorkes who came to Ballynanultagh along with James Cryan.  He might

know something about this; if someone comes across him, please ask him.

 2.  The estate records for the Viscount Lorton, esp. for 1853-54. The

Viscounts Lorton, unusually among large Irish landlords of the time,

managed his estates through an agent, rather than farming them out

throughlayers of middlemen.  For this reason, the estate records are likely to

contain details of individual tenant farmers.  I can only assume, based

onthe large size of Lorton's estate (which covered most of north

Roscommonand large areas of Sligo and Leitrim) that James Cryan's parents were

alsohis tenants, and that some record of the origin of James Cryan or his

compatriot Rorkes is made in the estate records.  If anyone is looking

through the Lorton estate records, please see if there is anything on

thismove. 

 As I said before, I hope some of this has been of help to others, and

thatsomeone can tell me a thing or two.                 In kinship,                Roger Cryan

 

Reply-To:          "Family History" < >

    From:          "Family History" < >Add to Address Book

    Date:          Wed, 4 Nov 1998 08:59:48 -0000

  Subject:          [CRYAN-L] BOYLE town: - part 4

      To:          CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Extract from Parliamentary Gazetteer 1842 - 4

Boyle town - part 4

Municipal Affairs:

The town was incorporated by charter of 11 James I; and had also a

charter,never acted on, of 4 James II. the borough limits are not defined by

charter, but are minutely traced, for proposed adoption, in the Report of

1837, onMunicipal Boundaries. The corporation is styled, "The Boroughmaster,

FreeBurgesses, and Commonality of the Borough of Boyle", and consists,

accordingto charter, of a boroughmaster, 12 free burgesses, and an indefinite

numberof commonality: but, at the date of the Municipal Corporation 's

Inquiry,the boroughmaster and burgesses were all in effect the nominees of Lord

Lorton, the patron of the borough, and 6 of the latter had no other

connection with the town than by being the patron's relations or

friends.The corporation, as puppets of the Earl of Kingston, returned two

members tothe Irish parliament; and, at the Legistlative Union, Lord Lorton ,as

theEarl of Kinston's executor, received the £15,000of compensation for

disenfranchisement. There is no borough property. A court of record,

withjuristicion to the amount of £3 6s 8d., and presided over by the

boroughmaster, was created by the borough charter, and continued to be

theonly care of the corporation after they were relieved from their

'onerousduty' of sending members to parliament. A seneschal's court held in the

town, has no juristicion in the town itself, but wields authority over

manymiles around it, and within the limits of several baronies of the

county.Petty-sessions are held by county magistrates, who reside near the

town. Theonly police are a party of the county constabulary.

Statistics: -

Area of the town,237 acres.

Poulation, in 1831, 3,433; in 1841, 3,235.

Houses 495.

Families employed chiefly in agriculture, 169; in manufactures andtrade,

369; in other pursuits,157.

Families supported chiefly by property and professions,23; by the

directionof labour, 364;by their own manual labour, 246; by means not specified, 56;

Males at and above the age of 5 years of age who could read and write,

783;who could read but not write, 171; who could neither read nor write,

448.Females at and above the age of 5 years of age who could read and

write,470; who could read but not write, 309; who could neither read nor

write,682.(note:- this gives 327 children under 5)

This is the end of the Boyle extract.

 

From:        Fatarm@aol.comAdd to Address Book

   Date:        Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:54:14 EST

 Subject:        [CRYAN-L] Irish language (from a variety of sources)

    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

I've been collecting information on the language of the Irish that some

othersof you may be interested in:

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Posted on the GenIre mailing list:

You can find an example of the Irish Alphabet and the way it

is pronounced athttp://www.standard.net.au/~jwilliams/data.htm

     -Jenny FawcettI haven't checked it out - a lot of this person's site references

Tipperaryand Australia, but seems to be in a period of growth just now (post-er

islisting info new to her site often on GenIre-L).

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A bit of news posted on GenIre,  Thu, 29 Oct 1998 by ClaireKeen@aol.com

Subject: Irish Gaelic to be taught in British schools

        Pardon this non-genealogy note, but I just had to pass the word, for

thosewhomay not have heard:

        The BBC reports that Britain will, as of next Sept., allow students to

studyIrish Gaelic to fulfill their modern language requirement.  They also

hope tobegin teacher and student exchanges between Ireland and Britain, and

hope toconnect their respective 'nets.  For the full report, see the BBC Web

site, inthe Education section.

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Also from GenIre, From: jayohbee@iol.ie

Subject: Co. Cork - Some facts & statistics

        The following is based on information from a post 1911 irish

directory.         The most interesting thing here are the numbers of people who spoke

Irishand English vs. Irish only for the earlier years - these from one of

ourcounties which still has gaeltacht areas.

        County of Cork:  Cork, a maritime county is in the Province of

Munster, thelargest in Ireland, is bounded on the north by Limerick, on the east by

Tipperary &Waterford, on the south by the Atlantic ocean and on the west by Kerry.

 

Length from Dursey island in the south west to Kilbeheny near

Mitchellstownis 98 miles: greatest length from Crow Head to Youghal is 102 miles;

breadth from the boundary at Mullaghareirk Mountains is the south west

toRobert's Head south of Cork harbour is 54 miles.

        The name of the county is derived from that of the city, being a

shortenedform of the Gaelic word Corcagh which signifies a marsh.  The present

countclearly corresponds with the ancient sub kingdom of Desmond or south

Munster.  Corka Laigdhe (pronounced Corkalee) the old territory of the

O'Driscolls comprised all the districts from Courtmacsherry Bay to

BantryBay, and the peninsula between Roaring Water Bay and Dunmanus Bay was

theancient Iveagh, the territory of the O'Mahony's.  On the point of

Durseyisland are three sea rocks called in English, the Bull, the Cow and the

Calf; they are celebrated in legendary history as the place where Donn

oneof the Milesian brothers perished in a storm with the crew of his ship.

Several of the old territories are represented in name and position by

baronies.  Thus the old district of Beanntraighe is the Barony of

Bantry;Cairbre the Barony of Carbery; Muscraighe the Barony of Muskerry;

Duthaighe-Eada the Barony of Duhallow; Feara-Muighe the Barony of

Fermoycalled in later ages, the Roches country.

Census Period           Population              Increase/Decrease

1821                    730,444

1831                    810,732                 + 80,288

1841                    854,118                 +43,386

1851                    649,308                 -204,810

1861                    544,818                 -104,490

1871                    517,076                 -27,742

1881                    495,607                 -21,469

1891                    438,432                 -57,175

1901                    404.611                 -33,821

1911                    392,104                 -12,507

1926                    365,747                 -26,357

 

        Families & Houses in 1926:  The number of families in the county was

74,878,the average number in each family being 4.6.  The number of inhabited

houseswas 63,245, showing an average of 4.9 people to each house.

        There were in the county 37,445 occupiers or Heads of families who

were inoccupation  of less than 5 rooms, being 50.1% of the total for the

county. Of these, 1,301 occupied one room; 7,729, two rooms; 10,649, three

roomsand 17,766, four rooms.

        There were 639 tenements in the county in which the room had only one

occupant; 546 cases where the room had 2-4 occupants; 101 cases of 5-7

occupants and 15 cases where the room had more than 7 occupants

includingone case where ten persons occupied the same room.

Of the population in 1926, 89.2% were born in the county.

Religious Persuasion:                           % of popluation

                        No. of people   1926    1911    1901    1891    1881    1871

RC                      271,072         94.34   91.45   91.32   91.3    91.7    91.5   

C of I                  13,791          4.86    7.29    7.31    7.4     7.2     7.1

Presbyter.              468             0.13    0.33    0.33    0.4     0.4     0.3

Methodists              1,221           0.42    0.65    0.68    0.7     0.5     0.5

All others              705             0.25    0.28    0.36    0.2     0.2     0.6

                Education:  In 1911 there were in the county 259,477 persons aged 9

years andupwards; of these 230,564 could read & write; 4,489 could read only and

24,424were illiterate.

        Irish Speaking:

Years:          1911    1901    1891    1881    1871    1861

Irish only      557     1,065   2,270   5,571   11,532  16,478

Ir. & Eng.      76,648  96,914  110,246 156,785 135,437 178,979

______________________________

Lastly, from a book I'm reading, "Perspectives on Irish Nationalism",

ed. by

Thomas E. Hachey & Lawrence J McCaffrey, The Univ. Press of Kentucky,

1989:

Lawrence J. McCaffrey's article, "Components of Irish Nationalism", p.

23: 

        "In the sixteenth and seventeenth centuries the English state may have

beensecond to none in the ferocity of its campaigns against indigenous

languageand culture in Ireland and elsewhere, but its efforts in this respect

innineteenth-century Ireland were pusillanimous.  The mainspring of

cultural andlinguistic change was popular response to economic realities.  It was

populardemand for education in English that created the flourishing - and

chaotic -growth of pay schools in the early decades of the nineteenth century.

... Arecent ingenious analysis of the census data - which, while not a fully

satisfactory guide in language matters, are all we have to go on -

suggeststhat of Irish children born from 1801 to 1811, 45 percent may have been

brought up speaking Irish.  For those born 1831-41, the estimated

percentagedropped to 28, and for those born 1861-71, to 13."

        I thought this paragraph neatly answered my own previous inquiry into

why thelanguage/spelling of surnames seemed to change so dramatically right

aroundthe year 1800.  There are also articles on the Folklore of Irish

Nationalism,The Land Question in Nationalist Politics, Irish Nationalism and the

BritishConnection, and others.  The articles are well written and well thought

out,the result of a symposium on Irish Nationalism held in Chicago (which

isprobably why our otherwise pathetic public library collection has this

scholarly work).Ta till later, Leslie

 

From:        Fatarm@aol.comAdd to Address Book

   Date:        Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:56:20 EST

 Subject:        [CRYAN-L] For Cork researchers (Cork-ers??)

    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 22:09:17 -0500

From: "Elizabeth W. Knowlton" <KnowltonEW@compuserve.com>

To: GENIRE-L@rootsweb.com

Subject: Marriages, Diocese of Cork & Ross, 1716-1844

        First I want to thank from the bottom of my heart the wonderful

people who recommended I look at Albert Casey's 14+ vols. of extracts

fromrecords in the Upper Blackwater, Cork/Kerry area.  You are right: it is

agoldmine.        I won't go on about all the breakthroughs I have made, but last

night I found reference to a marriage record that I think is my 3rd

greatgrandparents'.  It was in vol. 4 of the Casey vols. under a heading, "

Marriages, Diocese of Cork and Ross, 1716-1844, Public Records Office,

Dublin (generally deficient in Roman Catholic records and pre-1740)."

Allit had was "William Winspeare Rogers McCarthy married Eleanor Hegarty,

1829."        I know the PRO is now the Natl Library on Kildare St.  Would

thisbe an index or an extraction?  I have looked through Grenham [it is not

mentioned under Church Records] and think perhaps it is a manuscript

indexto original applications for marriage licenses [as opposed to marriage

bybanns].  Casey seems to have made a photographic copy of a printed item

because he has it laid out and reduced to fit four original pages to

one ofhis.  I want to know if more information is available, or is this what

isleft after the 1922 fire destroyed some other document?

        Also, I have studied several books and sort of know where the

diocese of Cork and Ross is, but is it a Roman Catholic diocese since I

donot see it listed under the Church of Ireland diocese maps?  This

familywas Cof I by 1845 but could have been RC earlier.

        Also, is everyone still off on some other listserve because I

amgetting only 5-10 messages a day from GenIre when I used to get many

more?Elizabeth Winspeare Knowlton            KnowltonEW@Compuserve.com

From:        Fatarm@aol.comAdd to Address Book

   Date:        Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:20:30 EST

 Subject:        [CRYAN-L] Web sites: newspapers and Irish links

    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

This was forwarded from Lee-L, through Murphy-L, to us:

Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 17:23:31 -0800

From: Patti Easton <crackle@mcn.net>

Subject: [LEE-L] searchable newspapers

I received this link this morning, and thought it worthy enough to pass

on.Searchable index to newspapers, also providing FULL text view after

search.

1) The Pennsylvania Gazette 1728-1800

2) The Civil War: A Newspaper Perspective November 1860 - April 1865

(from the Charleston Mercury * The New York Herald * RichmondEnquirer)

3) a database of 19th century African American newspapers,

4) The Pennsylvania Newspaper Record: Delaware County 1819-1870.

5) The Pennsylvania Genealogical Catalogue: Chester County 1809-1870

 

http://204.170.102.11/cgi-bin/accessible/verify.pl

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Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 00:09:23 -0000

From: "Jane O'Brien" <jayohbee@iol.ie>

Subject: Some Irish URL's/Irish Links          

Irish National Teachers Organisation    http://www.into.ie     

Bord Falite: Irish tourist board        hhtp://www.ireland.travel.ie/  

Cork, the Friendly City http://www.indigo.ie/press/cork/welcome.htm    

Swift: Ireland only search engine       http://swift.kerna.ie  

Northern Ireland Tourism        http://www.ni-tourism.com      

Irish Newspapers:              

Irish Times     http://www.irish-times.com/cgi-bin/today/      

Belfast Telegraph       http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/     

Irish News Global Edition       http://www.irishnews.com/      

Munster Express http://www.iol.ie/~munster/index.html  

Clare Champion  http://www.iol.ie/~galvo/clachamp.htm  

Galway Advertiser       http://www.iol.ie/resource/ga/ 

Anderstown News http://www.iol.ie/anderstown-news/     

In Dublin (magazine)    http://www.indublin.ie/

Dublin Event Guide      http://www.dkm.ie/events/dublin/       

Westmeath Examiner      http://www.westmeath-examiner.ie       

Irish Broadcasters:             

RTE     http://www.rte.ie      

2FM     http://www.iol.ie/2fm/ 

FM 104  http://www.iol.ie/fm104/       

The complete guide to Galway    http://www.wombat.ie/galwayguide/      

Dublin VR       http://www.fusio.com/dublinvr  

 

From:        Fatarm@aol.comAdd to Address Book

   Date:        Thu, 5 Nov 1998 21:11:38 EST

 Subject:        [CRYAN-L] Debrett's on Landlord, Viscount Lorton

    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

I've come across the Viscount Lorton as a landholder/landlord often in

thecourse of my research on the O'Crean family, mostly in Co. Roscommon,

but alsoin Co. Sligo.  I finally got around to "looking him up" in Debrett's at

thelibrary, and thought I'd transcribe (for those of you who may be

interested)the entry on the Viscount's predecessors.  The title was created in the

19thc. for a second son and then was combined back into the main family

line ofthe Earls of Kingston as described below:

[This is from a 1950 Debrett's, ed. by Hankinson, pages 619-20:]

Residence: Annaghboy, Boyle, Co. Roscommon

(1) Robert King, P.C., M.P. for Co. Roscommon; cr. a Baronet 1682; d.

1702: s.by his el. son

(2) Sir John, 2nd Bt., M.P. for Co. Roscommon; d.s.p. 1720; s. by his

brother

(3) Sir Henry, P.C., 3rd Bt.; M.P. for Co. Roscommon: m. 1722 Isabella

Wingfield, sister of 1st Viscount Powerscourt; d. 1740; s. by his el.

son

(4) Sir Robert, 4th Bt.; cr. Baron Kingsborough (peerage of Ireland)

1748; d.unmarried 1755 when the barony expired, and the baronetcy devolved upon

hisbrother

(5) Sir Edward, 5th Bt.; cr. Baron Kingston of Rockingham, Co.

Roscommon(peerage of Ireland) 1764, Viscount Kingston of Kingsborough, Co. Sligo

(peerage of Ireland) 1766, and Earl of Kingston (peerage of Ireland)

1768; d.1797; s. by his son

(6) Robert, 2nd Earl; was M.P. for Co. Cork; his 2nd son, Robert

Edward, aGeneral in the Army, and Lord Lieutenant of Roscommon, was cr. Baron

Erris, ofBoyle, Co. Roscommon (peerage of Ireland) 1800 and Viscount Lorton, of

Boyle,Co. Roscommon (peerage of Ireland) 1806; the Earl d. 1799; s. by his

son

(7) George, 3rd Earl; cr. Baron Kingston of Mitchelstown, Co. Cork

(peerage ofU.K.) 1821; d. 1839; s. by his el. surviving son

(8) Robert Henry, 4th Earl; d. 1867; s. by his brother

(9) James, 5th Earl: m. 1860, Anne, dau. of Matthew Brinkley, of

Pasrsonstown,Meath; d.s.p. 1869, when the Barony of Kingston of Mitchelstown

expired, andthe Irish peerages reverted to his cousin

(10) Robert, 6th Earl, who had in 1854 s. his father as 2nd Viscount

Lorton[this is the Viscount Lorton referenced in Griffith's Land Valuation

therefore]; b. 1804: m. 1829, Anne, Dau. of Sir Robert Newcomen

Gore-Booth,Bt.; d. 1869; s. by his el. son

(11) Robert Edward, 7th Earl; d. 1871; s. by his brother

(12) Henry Ernest Newcomen, 8th Earl; b. 1848: Lord-Lieutenant of Co.

Roscommon, and a Representative Peer for Ireland; assumed by Roy.

Licence[sic] 1883, the additional surname of Tenison: m. 1872, Florence

MargaretChristine, who d. 1907, dau. of the late Col. Edward King Tenison of

KilronanCastle: d. 1896 ....

[I will provide the first half of the 20th c. info to anyone

interested, but Ifigure most of us care far more to shed light on the 19th c.]

From:        Fatarm@aol.comAdd to Address Book

   Date:        Fri, 6 Nov 1998 12:10:58 EST

 Subject:        [CRYAN-L] Pass & Imm Indx Lists: Creg-, Crey-, and Crog- ans

    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Last night I had an opportunity to double-check some of my earliest

researchat the public library and picked up these additional listings for Creg

andCrog -ans:

 

BEGINNING PAGE 112 [TOP]

Cregan, Francis: Phila., PA, 1858

Cregan, James: Phila., PA, 1860

Cregan, Michael: Phila., PA, 1868

Cregon, James: Phila., PA 1858

Creyon, Luke, age 20: NY, NY, 1803

Creyon, Roger, age 18: NY, NY, 1803

Croggan or Croggon, Henry B: Alexandria, VA, 1818

Croghan, Mrs. with two children: San Fran, CA, 1862

Croghan, John: Phila., PA, 1859

Croghan, John, age 24: NY, NY, 1847

Croghan, Margaret, 26: NY, NY, 1847

Crighan, Patrick, 28: NY, NY, 1847

Crohegan, Michael, age 20: Boston, MA, 1849

Crogan, J.J. age 30: Balt., MD, 1833

Crogan, Herman Peterson: S. Dakota, no date

Croghan, Dominic, age 19: Balt., MD 1874

If you can or think you can lay claim to one of these, please contact

me and Iwill give you the source information.

-Leslie

 

END

From        Crogmos@aol.comAdd to Address Book

   Date:        Wed, 11 Nov 1998 05:47:45 EST

 Subject:        [CRYAN-L] Messages-Wednesday

    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

 

I have not received any post since last Friday, November 6th  I am

wonderingif there is a problem.?  I have received some from other sources so I

hope itis not my PC.I really appreciate all the Cryan details , although they have not as

yethelped me with my research , they are useful background. Best wishes to

allCryans ,Pat Moseley. Birmingham England

 

 

==== CRYAN Mailing List ====

Areas (N.Am.) researching: Boston, Lowell & Worcester, MA; Eldorado &

Milwaukee, WI; upstate NY; Oregon; Pittsburgh, PA; NY/NYC/NJ; IN/MO/IL;

N & S Dakota; Cleve., OH;  Rainy River District, Ont. Canada.

 

Reply-To:          "Family History" < >

    From:          "Family History" < >Add to Address Book

  Subject:          Re: [CRYAN-L] Messages-Wednesday

    Date:          Wed, 11 Nov 1998 11:12:48 -0000

      To:          CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Hi, I think everyone is waiting for someone else to do the posting. Or

elseas I am at this minute, when they make a contact mailing to the person

notthe list - pity !!! (I also am sending this to the list)

Suggestion,there seem to be several people with interests in Lowell,

Massand I have just written to a person with Mass. interests inviting here

tojoin the list ......... why not write what you do know about your family

CRYAN for the whole list. Describe the bits that you do not know about,

askquestions about the bits you are currently interested in, family

stories...etc.....

I was very surprised to generate no reaction when I gave my reasons for

thinking it possible that my ancestor was the only CRYAN on the

AustralianTransportation list. I would have hoped that someone would have asked

something......... perhaps "How did you find out where the ship went

to?"Noone will answer questions that are not asked.

 I am sure that everyone is saving all the titbits in case they are

usefulin the future.Good luck with your research, do ask some questions, you may be

surprisedand pleased with the results. (I live on hope - the greatest vitue ,I

think)Yours, Eve

Reply-To:          "Family History" < >

    From:          "Family History" < >Add to Address Book

    Date:          Wed, 11 Nov 1998 11:37:19 -0000

  Subject:          [CRYAN-L] Irish Language

      To:          CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

 

 

Hi Everyone,

I am sorry not to have clipped the previous message, but once sent it

is toolate.Thought that anyone who is interested in the Irish Language might like

totry this site(with sound files) that though I have not tried,was

recommendedback in July.http://www.geocities.com/CollegePark/Library/5433/less1.htm

Another site described as "Free interactive multimedia language

laboratoryon-line LINGOLAB. Learn Irish pronunciation, vocabulary and literature

usingmy FREE Swim-Two-Birds on-line interactive multimedia Language

Laboratory".http://www.mpx.com.au/~hugho/verse/lingolab.htm

and at http://www.mpx.com.au/~hugho/verse/MCourt.htm  you'll hear a

famousIrish poem in the Gaelic(you can read along in English and see how it is

pronounced too) - "The Midnight Court" by Brian Merriman 1780,

celebratesthe ..........I guess that you will find out.

Until again, Eve

 

==== CRYAN Mailing List ====

Surnames being researched by subscribers:  Craigen/Creighan,

Crawn/Craun, Crane, Crain-e, Crean, Creen-e, Creagan/Cregan/Creaghan,

Creah

 

Reply-To:          "Family History" < >

    From:          "Family History" < >Add to Address Book

    Date:          Wed, 11 Nov 1998 12:19:10 -0000

  Subject:          [CRYAN-L] Boyle Registers

      To:          CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

. I have come across some entries in these registers, (so far I have

much of1793,4,&5), relating to Robert CRYAN and Matilda it looks like Sythe or

Lythe or similar. Do you have any idea what it could be?I will post what I have to date when I have time.The list is quiet at the moment, could someone please say what they

thinkabout the web sites that we have recommended. I have not tried the

languageones so would love to hear what you think.Perhaps someone could tell me about the SHAMROCK list that I have heardmentioned but not tried.

I also think that ,as I am extracting and translating what I  can from

theBoyle RC registers that they should go to the Leitrim and Roscommon

List.What do you think about trying to persuade EdFinn to include the

southernpart of Co Sligo as many of the parishes and the registration district

coverboth counties?Until again, Take care, Eve

 

==== CRYAN Mailing List ====

Other locations being researched by Subscribers: Australia; Wales;

Birmingham and Norwich, Eng.; Scotland

 

From:        Fatarm@aol.comAdd to Address Book

   Date:        Wed, 11 Nov 1998 21:01:18 EST

 Subject:        [CRYAN-L] No, Pat, I think we've all just been a bit quiet

    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

this past weekend.  However, I do have some news:  everybody, please

welcomesubscriber #43, a Crehan researcher who referenced a burial listing in

Pittsburgh (if I'm remembering correctly).  I hope we'll read of her

researchsoon through the list.I've finished inputting the LDS' "thru-March 1988" data output sent onbyCaoimhghin this past weekend (19 pages of hardcopy), and I'm starting

to sortout who might be interested in what.  It's rather large, too large to

sendthrough the list, so I'm picking out pieces to send everyone, based on

yourpostings -- sorting by surnames, first names and locations.  I'll try

dates,too, come to think of it.  I know some people will have direct hits,

but manyof us may just be intrigued by the possibilities of connections.  It'll

takeme a couple of weeks to get to everyone, and I'll send it directly

rather thanthrough the list.  At least that's what I'm thinking -- I'd be happy to

entertain any other idea, because I think the data worth sharing with

everyone.   -- Leslie

 

==== CRYAN Mailing List ====

Areas (Ire) researching: Bandon and Glounthaune, Cork; Castlebar, Mayo;

Wexford; Dingle Peninsula; Caherciveen, Kerry; Newcastle West & Glin,

Limrk; Donegal; Nenagh, Tipp; Ballybane, Galway; Boyle & Keash, Sligo

 

From:        Fatarm@aol.comAdd to Address Book

   Date:        Wed, 11 Nov 1998 21:10:43 EST

 Subject:        [CRYAN-L] Co. Leitrim/Rosc. web pages

    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Eve and all,

Has anyone had any contact with Mr. Finn?  I admit to having writing

but neverreceived a response (at least not to memory), so I have an impression

thathe's a busy guy.I think writing to other researchers is great -- I only wish everyone

wasonline!  Leslie

 

 

==== CRYAN Mailing List ====

Areas (N.Am.) researching: Boston, Lowell & Worcester, MA; Eldorado &

Milwaukee, WI; upstate NY; Oregon; Pittsburgh, PA; NY/NYC/NJ; IN/MO/IL;

N & S Dakota; Cleve., OH;  Rainy River District, Ont. Canada.

 

From:        Fatarm@aol.comAdd to Address Book

   Date:        Wed, 11 Nov 1998 21:14:50 EST

 Subject:        [CRYAN-L] Irish Emigrant conditions

    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

The county Cork mailing list has been having a bunch of postings on the

following article, so I thought I'd repost here for all you

Cork-ers/Cork-ians(what IS the correct word?!) and just as general interest Ireland.

---------------Here is the site where the article is

<A HREF="http://www.standard.net.au/~jwilliams/d1.htm">An Irish

Emigrant 1864</A>   <----click here or type address below

http://www.standard.net.au/~jwilliams/d1.htm

 

 

==== CRYAN Mailing List ====

Have you come across a Craine while doing Creahan research?  Post it

here: Cryan-L@rootsweb.com

 

From:

        Julie_Case@prodigy.com (MS JULIA M CASE)Add to Address Book

   Date:

        Wed, 11 Nov 1998 22:56:51, -0500

 Subject:

        RootsWeb Review, Vol. 1, No. 22

    To:

        RootsWeb-Review@rootsweb.com

 

 

ROOTSWEB REVIEW: Genealogical Data Cooperative News

Vol. 1, No. 22, 11 November 1998; Circulation: 229,000+

Copyright (c) 1998 RootsWeb Genealogical Data Cooperative

This article first appeared in the National Genealogical Society

Computer Interest Group's "NGS/CIG DIGEST," Volume 17 Number 4,

July August 1998.

 

                    ROOTSWEB AND USGENWEB:

       WORKING TOGETHER FOR GENEALOGY ON THE INTERNET

 

                      by Karen Isaacson

 

The Internet, and genealogy on the Internet, have both been

around far longer than many online genealogists realize. "On

Distributed Communications Networks" by P. Baran, one of the

first papers describing how the Internet would be built, was

published by RAND as P-2626 in 1962. If you're interested, you

can read the abstract or order a copy online at <http://

www.rand.org/cgi-bin/Abstracts/ordi/getab.pl?523207-525148>. In

1969, four computers were linked together, and the network was

born.

Not much of genealogical interest happened for awhile, though.

About a decade later, newgroups and the USENET were begun. There

was so little traffic that I used to read all messages in all

groups in a few minutes over lunch, and still had time to take a

walk. By 1983, the newsgroup net.roots, named after the popular

Roots miniseries, had been launched, and with it, genealogy on

the Internet.

What, you may be wondering, does all that ancient history have to

do with RootsWeb and USGenWeb? Easily explained: we're

genealogists, interested in determining the roots of things, and

RootsWeb and USGenWeb are the logical descendants of those early

efforts.

The Internet, until a few years ago, was an aggressively non-

commercial place. There was no spam, there were no

advertisements. Customer support was usually conducted via e-mail

rather than in the newsgroups, and people even felt slightly

queasy about using e-mail for such commercial purposes, believe

it or not. Access, if you could get it at all, was "free" -- from

an employer, from a university, perhaps (later) from a community-

based Freenet. There was a culture of volunteers working

together, to make resources freely available to the general

community. There was no World Wide Web. The tools used by most

netizens were e-mail, FTP, and perhaps telnet.

I'm not sure when mailing lists first started appearing.

LISTSERV, one of the most common programs for supporting mailing

lists, was started in late 1986. In 1987, Alf Christophersen of

Norway, and Marty Hoag of North Dakota State University, started

the ROOTS-L mailing list, and gatewayed it with soc.roots, the

Usenet newsgroup (renamed from net.roots shortly before.) 

With the creation of ROOTS-L, things began to happen. John Wilson

proposed a database of surnames people were searching in late

1988. When he was unable to maintain it, I took it over. The RSL,

or RootsWeb Surname List, now contains [more than] half a million

surnames submitted by over 60,000 Internet genealogists. This

probably makes it the largest cooperative genealogical effort

on the net, in terms of participation. The RSL is available

online at <http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/rslsearch.pl>.

About the same time, Cliff Manis got permission from Marty Hoag

to start a library of genealogy files on the NDSU FTP server and,

with help from various ROOTS-L participants, made hundreds of

files freely available to anyone on the network. That library is

still available, though it's getting to be an interesting period

piece, its value overtaken by wonderful new resources such as the

USGenWeb archives. If you would like to visit it, it's now

available at <http://www.rootsweb.com/roots-l/filelist.html>.

My favorite is called genealog.interbbs, at   

<http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/roots-l/genealog/genealog.interbbs>.

What is genealog.interbbs? A complete listing (dated December

1991) of BBSs with Internet access. There are all of thirty or so

listed.Times change. The Internet has broadened to include the world at

large. [Prodigy], AOL, CompuServe, and the other online services

provided access, and the world arrived with a roar in our quaint

little academic cul de sac. We didn't (quite) say, "There goes

the neighborhood," but I do confess that there was some

nervousness about the hordes of new folk. Would they wipe their

feet? Keep their voices down? Would they get it?

The transition has been, at times, rocky. But I think it's now

safe to claim that those wonderful attributes and attitudes of

the old Internet, people pulling together, people working

together to make resources freely available to the community,

have survived. They have more than survived, they are thriving

now as never before, and with wonderful results such as RootsWeb

and USGenWeb.It didn't happen overnight, though. One problem, of course, was

financial. Isn't it always? In the old Internet, resources such

as mailing lists and archives were typically provided by a

friendly university.  ROOTS-L was at NDSU. The genealogical

methods mailing list, GENMTD-L, was launched at Georgia Tech.

But the staff and equipment required to support these "free"

resources rapidly grew, and, in a time of shrinking budgets,

often overwhelmed our hosts, who then, though with regret, had to

ask us to make alternative arrangements.

My husband, Dr. Brian Leverich, and I have been active in

genealogy on the Internet since 1986. By late 1995, we were

concerned about the future of genealogy on the Internet. We

weren't worried about its having a future, it clearly did. But we

were worried about what that future would be like. Would all data

be under lock and key, and only available in "pay per view" mode?

Would mailing lists, like magazines, have to charge their

subscribers a fee? When ROOTS-L had to leave NDSU and find a new

home, before eWorld/Apple offered to host us for free, it looked

like we would have to find $3,000 a year to pay to have the list

hosted. For someone imbued with the old Internet ethic, these

were daunting prospects. But what were the alternatives?

An alternative, and the one we chose, was simply to do it

ourselves. Brian had told me over and over, while I agonized

about what was to become of ROOTS-L, that we could host it

ourselves, on our equipment. I was skeptical. But we both thought

it possible that the community would voluntarily chip in enough

to cover hardware and bandwidth, and that resources such as the

ROOTS-L mailing list could continue to be freely available.

Thus was born RootsWeb. We wanted to call it roots.com, but

that name was already taken. It was scary, but exciting, and in

the early days of 1996, not too expensive. Since that time our

load has increased more than ten-fold, and our costs have

similarly increased. And at least to date, with help from

thousands of individual contributors and recently with the

corporate sponsorship by Palladium Interactive (publishers of

Ultimate Family Tree), the community has chipped in to make a

reality of our collective dream: a community-supported Internet

site that makes genealogical data and research facilities freely

available to all Internet genealogists. Folks interested in

helping RootsWeb can visit:

<http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html>

When did RootsWeb and USGenWeb begin their partnership? With

Linda Lewis, and her "TimeToDo" project (which evolved into the

USGenWeb Archives) in June of 1996. But it could have been

earlier: Jeff Murphy, the founder of USGenWeb, approached us

early in 1996 about providing Web space for Web pages for every

state. We didn't "get" it, it sounded like a duplication of the

Web pages ROOTS-L had already assembled for every state, which

can still be found at <http://www.rootsweb.com/roots-l/usa.html>.

Jeff meant USGenWeb, and wandered off elsewhere to build the

project.

USGenWeb, like RootsWeb, is an example of the old Internet

culture transitioning successfully onto the new Internet.

Thousands of volunteers are working together to provide Web sites

and free information about every county in every state in the

United States. They have an ambitious project to transcribe all

of the U.S. Federal Censuses and put them online. They have

another exciting project called the Tombstone Transcription

Project, for transcribing cemeteries. Everyone is pitching in

together, working to create something of value for the entire

community.

Although RootsWeb initially missed an opportunity to host the

project, we got a second opportunity later, when the ISP hosting

USGenWeb had difficulties supporting it. We currently serve not

only the usgenweb.org, .net, and .com domains, but also the

homepages for about 40 of the state pages, and thousands of

county homepages. We also provide a home for both the Census

Project and the Tombstone Transcription Project. We host

thousands of mailing lists for USGenWeb counties and states, and

thousands of query boards using the new GenConnect system. There

are 750 MB of material in the USGenWeb archives. It's been wild,

it's been fun, it's been challenging (understatement), but it's

been rewarding and satisfying to see the community working

together, to support the RootsWeb server, and to provide

resources, both through RootsWeb and the mailing lists, and

through USGenWeb and its archives. I think this is the start of a

beautiful friendship.

Reply-To:          "Family History" < >

    From:          "Family History" < >Add to Address Book

    Date:          Thu, 12 Nov 1998 13:39:50 -0000

  Subject:          [CRYAN-L] Meaning of LDS

      To:          CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Hi to all especially Roger,

You ask the meaning of LDS, it stands for Latter Day Saints or more

fullyThe Church of Jesus Christ and the Latter Day Saints frequently called

TheMormans. They have collected or photographs huge numbers of genealogical

records throughout the world. Some are on fiche and some on film. There

is ahuge centre for genealogy in Salt Lake City, their headquarters and a

network of Family History Centres, known as FHCs,  throughout the world

which has access to these resources. These FHCs are open to the public

butfor most you have to book in advance and priority is given to church

members. They are very kind and helpful to newcomers and know a lot

aboutresearch, so it is worth making contact. Addresses can be found on the

internet or in a telephone book or white pages.

I hope that this is helpful, Eve

 

==== CRYAN Mailing List ====

Check out Ireland's National Archives:

//www.nationalarchives.ie/genealogy.html

Reply-To:          "Family History" < >

    From:          "Family History" < >Add to Address Book

    Date:          Thu, 12 Nov 1998 13:48:56 -0000

  Subject:          [CRYAN-L] New entry for the CRYAN roll of honour

      To:          CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Hi All,

Sadly, my mother Aileen CRYAN died last night, she slipped quietly awaywithher family around her, after 86 years.Please pray for her and for usall.I shall be absent from the list for a time while making the finalarrangements. But I hope that you will all keep the list active and Ieagerly await a collection of all the mails later.Until again later, Eve

 

 

==== CRYAN Mailing List ====

Have you come across a Craine while doing Creahan research?  Post it

here: Cryan-L@rootsweb.com

 

Date:        Thu, 12 Nov 1998 08:58:01 -0500 (EST)

  From:        simone samuel <amethyst@inch.com>Add to Address Book

 Subject:        Re: [CRYAN-L] New entry for the CRYAN roll of honour

    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Dear Eve,

   I'm sorry to hear about your mother's death. I'll pray for her and

yourfamily.Sincerely,Theresa Mary

 

  From:        Fatarm@aol.comAdd to Address Book

   Date:        Thu, 12 Nov 1998 10:41:24 EST

 Subject:        [CRYAN-L] Mary Cryan

    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Hello Leslie and all:

Do you have any information on a Mary Cryan abt. 1900-1960?  She

married aDaniel Roy McCarthy from Minnesota and settled in New York State -

QueensCounty.Can you help me with your list?

Thank you.Mark

 

  From:        Fatarm@aol.comAdd to Address Book

   Date:        Fri, 13 Nov 1998 10:51:56 EST

 Subject:        [CRYAN-L] 1749 Elphin Diocese

    To:

        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Once again, clues from Caoimhghin ....

(Census) 1749 Elphin Diocese

[I believe everyone on the below list was listed as a papist]

Parish          Abode           Names & Rel                     Profession

Killummod       Carroun Bryan & Honor Crien     D

                        Knockrow        James & Honor Crine     Smith

Killukin        Croghan

Boyle           Boyle           Conor Crynes                    Beggar

Shancoe Ballin___       J. O'Cryan                              Farmer

Aughrim

Ardcarn Ahrefinican     D. Cryne                        DO

                                                Jim [or Sim?] Cryne     Farmer

                                                P. Cryne                                DO

Eastersnow

Killcola        Batallion       Laughlen Cryne                  Herd

Elphin

Co. Sligo

Aghanagh

Aghamlish

Ballinakill

Ballysumaoher

Drumcolum

Killidoon       Corlasheen      John Cryan                              Labourer

Kilmacallan

Killmagranny

Sligo           Sligo           John Crean & wife               Slap Boiler

                                                William Crean & wife    Cotter

                                                Lawrence Crean & wife   Cotter

                                                Widow Sisly Crean               Shopkeeper

                                                Martin Crean & wife     Yarn Mer.

                                                Pat Crean & wife                Farmer

                                                Dinis Creaghan & wife   Labourer

                                                John Creaghan & wife    Cotter

 

[Thanks Kevin!  And sorry if I've mangled the reading of your

handwriting ...

Leslie]

==== CRYAN Mailing List ====

 

From:        Fatarm@aol.comAdd to Address Book   Date:        Fri, 13 Nov 1998 10:54:55 EST

 Subject:        [CRYAN-L] Crine burials of Boyle    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

>From Caoimhghin:

Crine Burials of Boyle, Catholic Registry:

Margaret Cryan, d. 1938-01-30 age 35.  Address: Grangemore.

John Cryan, Ballinultagh, d. 1855-12-24 age 36.

Paul Cryan, Backlane, d. 1858-09-??, age 76.

Brigid Cryan, Ballinultagh, d. 1852-01-??, age 74.

Briget Cryan, Grallagh, d. 1839-02-12, age 70.

From:        "Michael Tobin" <tobinmi@hotmail.com>Add to Address Book   Date:        Fri, 13 Nov 1998 10:28:10 PST Subject:        [CRYAN-L] LDS info    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Hello Leslie,

Concerning the information which you have extracted from the LDSrecords

and which you were thinking of emailing to people individually - Ithink

it would be useful to copy the mailing list on such information.I think it will help in that people might spot some similarities with their own research, e.g people's names, places, etc.. One problem might

be that a lot of information will be flowing around. Personally, I'm happier with too much rather than too little information.What do others think? Hopefully the question of privacy of such information isn't an issue. If its in the LDS, is it already public domain, so maybe its not a privacy issue?regardsMichael

 

 

  From:        RuthK3834@aol.comAdd to Address Book   Date:        Fri, 13 Nov 1998 23:55:21 EST

 Subject:        [CRYAN-L] Fwd: ship lists sites    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Return-Path: <IRELAND-L-request@rootsweb.com>

Old-To: IRELAND-L@rootsweb.com

Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 11:54:34 -0500

Subject: ship lists sites

Received the following from another list I belong to.

 

Today's url is a brand new website.

The Emigrant  Ship Lists Transcribers Guild

http://iigs.rootsweb.com/immships/index1.html

 

This ambitious project has 200 volunteers transcribing ships lists from

NARAto put online for free.There are presently  75 lists transcribed and many more links with

transcribed lists already online at various genealogy websites which are

being collected and organized on this site.This is a noteworthy list as it brings The Genealogy Community together topromote free and easy access to sources for genealogists. The Genealogy

Help      Network  http://ghn.genealogy.org

has 'dontated' a link to our transcribed passenger list The" ERIN 1813,

withseveral more not online as yet. Please pass this along to another

mailinglist so that others might learn of this great undertaking!

The Genealogy Help Network

http://ghn.genealogy.org

Genealogy Help Network

 ICQ#17003442

 

______________________________

From:        Fatarm@aol.comAdd to Address Book   Date:        Sat, 14 Nov 1998 10:11:48 EST

 Subject:        [CRYAN-L] Crehan    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Hi.  I have just started research on the Crehan side of the family and =

    > don't have too much to go on. Maybe someone can help.  Here's

what I =    > know so far:

    > My greatgrandfather, Charles Crehan, is listed on my

grandmother's birth=    > certificate.  Her name was Marie Elizabeth Crehan born in 1896 in

=    > Pittsburgh, PA.  Her mother is listed as Sarah, born Oct. 1878,also in

=    > Pittsburgh.  Sarah's parents according to her death certificateare =

    > Robert Press and ?? Smith, both born in Ireland.    > I found Sarah's tombstone in Pittsburgh and buried next to her inthe =    > same plot is John Freeman listed as her brother.  I sent for his

death =    > certificate and his parents are listed as Robert Freeman andSusanna =    > Smith, both born in Ireland.    > I'm led to believe that Susanna Smith and ?? Smith are the sameperson,

 

From:        Fatarm@aol.comAdd to Address Book   Date:        Sun, 15 Nov 1998 02:04:41 EST Subject:

        [CRYAN-L] Re: Crehan    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Hi,What cemetery did you search? There are some Crehans in N.S. Catholic

Cemetery in Pittsburgh. My grandfather, John who was married to Alice

Wadlow, both born 1880 or 1881. I know she was born in Pittsburgh, but

have been unable to find out if he was. His father, Michael, was born in

? Ireland and married Margaret Dillon, born in Massachusetts. He was

bornin Oct, 1852 and I have no date for her. Their other children were

William(1877) whose wife, Henrietta Halloran is buried in N.S. Catholic.

Frank(no date), Arthur (1883), Harmar James (1886), Mary (1889). My

father, James Elmer(1908) is buried there. In summary, Michael, John,

Henrietta, and James are all buried in N.S. Catholic. Wm, died in

Seattle. Mary disappeared as did Arthur and Harmar James. That is about

all I have been able to certify. I know that an Andrew Crehan married a

woman named Ellen and they lived in Pittsburgh. I will do some digging

inmy files and think I can come up with more on there family. I went to

school with a guy named Creahan, but never bothered to look for a

connection. Regret that now.Carole Crehan Wagner cwagner5@juno.com

 

From:        Fatarm@aol.comAdd to Address Book   Date:        Mon, 16 Nov 1998 11:40:35 EST

 Subject:        [CRYAN-L] Early History of Sligo Crean Family (O'Rorke) part 1    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

[Passed on by Caoimhghin:]

History of Sligo - O'Rorke (p. 275-277)

Early History of Sligo Crean Family

It is to be regretted that there is no list extant of the Priors of HolyCross, some of whom must have been men worth remembering.  In theabsence ofany record, the writer thinks it may be of use to give here, in

chronologicalorder, the names of such Priors as he has come across, with a word ortwo of

biography where he can, leaving to others to add new names, and toenlarge thebiographical notices.  The following are the names he has met with: -

1.  Manus, son of Baethghalach MacEgan, Prior of Sligo, died, according

to theAnnals of Loch Ce, in 1411.  The name of this prior does not occur

either inthe Four Masters or the Hibernia Dominicana.

 

2.  Brian, the son of Dermot McDonogh, as we have seen, was Prior in

1416,when the convent was restored after the burning; His name is given in

the FourMasters, the Annals of Loch Ce, and Hibernia Dominicana.

 

3.  The next prior, we know of is Andrew Crean, or O'Crean, who from

Prior ofSligo, became Bishop of Elphin.  He was a native of Sligo, and a member

of themost distinguished family then in the place after that of the

O'Connors.  Theyappear to have settled in Sligo towards the close of the fifteenth

century;and the first of this branch of whom we have any record, is Cormac, who

isburied in the beautiful altar tomb which stands in the nave of thechurch, and

which bears a Latin inscription, thus rendered by Mr. Langrishe, the

distinguished architect and antiquary, in the "Kilkenny Journal" of

October,1884:

 

                Hic . jacet . Cormacus.  Ocraian .

                Et Ehon ac . Nanangasa . uxor.

                Eis . an . Do., MCCCCC VI.

 

                Here lieth Cormac O'Craian,

                . . . . . . and Nanangasa, his wife,

                The year of the Lord, 1506.

 

Originally of Tirconnell, where Donnell O'Crean, "a rich, humane

merchant,died suddenly while hearing mass in the monastery of Donegal, in 1506",

theO'Creans came, probably in the wake of O'Donnell, to Sligo, where they

devotedthem-selves successfully to mercantile pursuits, as the Annals of the

FourMasters record, under the year 1572, the death of Henry O'Crean, "a

rich andaffluent merchant of Lower Connaught."

 

It is feared that other members of the family were not always so

honourablyemployed as these merchants, for we find "Bishop Crean, of Sleegaugh,"

grantedin 1547, a fee of 12d, a day for life, by Henry the Eight, which,considering

the date of the gift and the character of the giver, is, to say theleast, a

suspicious transaction; while in 1593, another of the family, JamesO'Crean,appears to have acted as spy for the English authorities against someIrishbishops, including the Primate, Doctor Magauran.  If these men were asguiltyas they look, the infamy belongs to themselves, and indeed, [thefamily?]

produced men as honourable and virtuous as any of their day.

[I'll do my best to get part 2 posted soon]

 

 From:        Fatarm@aol.comAdd to Address Book   Date:       Tue, 17 Nov 1998 10:19:24 EST

    To:        caoimhghin@yahoo.com Subject:        Dolan, rootsweb, O'Creans, future postings, Book?

HREF="http://www.rootsweb.com/~maillist/surnames/index.html">Surname/Family

Lists</A> at rootsweb,

http://www.rootsweb.com/~maillist/surnames/index.html

is the place to start looking in many instances.  However, not allsurnames

have a list yet -- consider trying the basic surname Ireland or Gen-Ire

mailing lists.  Also, the county lists (but again there isn't yet a

list ofall counties) are pretty good -- I'm on Roscommon, Cork, Kerry and Mayo

andI'm collecting all sorts of neat info.        Where did you see the list of researchers?  If on the rootsweb mainsurnamedatabank, you can email them individually -- I agree it's a tedious

task ifone can't limit the hits-list sufficiently.  Another option is to post

yourown surnames to rootsweb for free, and everyone with the same surname

getsyour posting when the list is updated monthly (usually in the first

week of anew month).  There's a form for doing it and is quite simple (if I

managed todo it correctly the first time, anyone can!) -- go through the main

www.rootsweb.com page to the half-million surname posting list (whatever

that's called) and follow for adding your surnames.        As to the Creans ... I agree, we need to get something to fill in theholes-- everyone on the list can get to the nineteenth century I believe,

and manyto the early 19th or late 18th ... and then ~nada~.  Was it Grenham

that Iread, saying that he only knew of 20 families that had successfully

filled inthis same time period gap??  I'll look at him again to see what sources

helists for this period.        But the Creans are remarkably silent on our list, no?  Two have

unsubbed (butnot before I got their info - ha!) and two have not yet posted at all.

Butthere are still 42 of us on the list (can you believe it?) .... Are you

certain you want to claim the notorious Crean's??  I'm not so certain

I'denjoy boasting of an ancestor taking payouts from Henry VIII !! 

        Although, frankly, it'd fit -- I've come to the conclusion that my

maternalGreatgrandmom kept her British citizenship because she wanted it (her

fatherwas the RIC guy, and her Dublin-born husband was naturalized here) --

yet shedidn't want to resettle in Ireland the several times the opportunity

appearedbecause "all the cars are black" and more political comments that have

descended through the generations.  I'm such an anomaly in my family,

becausein general we're a bunch of anglo-philes.  My father's aunt just wrote

me tosay that she thinks it's ironic that I'm taking such a pleasure in my

Irishroots when her/our ancestors spent most of their lives here in the

Stateshiding or denying them.        It's such an interesting phenomenon, the Irish here hiding where they

wereborn because of the prejudice earlier this century against the Irish,

and theIreland Irish ashamed of the emigration.  Thank god things have changed!

        Personally, I have a hard time not being extremely angry the more I

readabout the slaughters, the hardship, and the penal laws.  I'm reading a

rathervitriolic book at the moment, "The Famine Ships", and the author rather

pointsout all the massacres and injuries, from Cromwell on ... maybe I ought

to reada nice travel rag next.        Send whatever you like -- I'm sorry I'm so slow in reciprocating.

Actually,you must realize, your offerings are like manna to the masses -- I'd

havenothing to post myself at the moment and the list would be quite dead

withoutthem.  I don't mind typing, I'm fairly quick, and I'm having a blast

readingwhat you send.        Lastly, Michael Tobin and I have exchanged a brief email as to putting

everything together in a book at some point, maybe next year.  We'veall beenfairly open about sharing info, and though it's only the raw data, Ithinkit'd be neat to do a cross-Atlantic collaboration.  If you're

interested inparticipating, keep it in the back of your mind.  We've still got a

ways togo, as you've pointed out.        Thanks for everything -- when I get to Ireland someday, I owe you anice,big, refreshing beer.  Okay, maybe more than one -- Leslie

 

From:        Fatarm@aol.comAdd to Address Book   Date:        Tue, 17 Nov 1998 10:53:24 EST

 Subject:        [CRYAN-L] O'Rorke, part 2, Early Creans    To:

        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

(cont'd)

The O'Creans were not long in Sligo when they began to invest money in

land;and before many years had passed, they held landed estate not only near

thetown, but in various other parts of the country.  Andrew O'Crean of

Annagh, orHazelwood and much of the parishes of Carbury and St. John, in the

barony ofCarbury, but also considerable stretches of land in Leyney, Tereragh,

andCoolavin, as well as the abbey of Ballindoon, in the barony of

Tirerrill.  Heappears to have died in 1641.

        Bishop O'Crean, who was probably uncle of this Andrew, was Prior of

Sligoconvent in 1561, when Bernard O'Higgins, Bishop of Elphin, having

resignedthat see in his favour, he set out for Rome, bearing with him the

resignation,and a letter of recommendation from the Very Rev. David Wolf, S.J.,

who, likeMonsignor Persico at present, was then acting as Apostolic Delegate of

theHoly See in Ireland, and whose word was decisive in everything that

regardedthe administration of the Irish church.  This proceeding of the Prior,

ingoing to Rome on such an errand, is in marked contrast with the conduct

of afew others whom we read or hear of -- of some, who under the influence

ofgenuine Christian humility, shrink, in reality as well as in seeming,

from theresponsibility of the episcopate; and of others, who, perhaps, from

"the pridethat apes humility," in dallying with offers of preferment, are only

indulgingpersonal vanity, or some equally unamiable constitutional idiosyncrasy;

butDr. O'Crean, when the call of duty came to him later on, proved his

humilityand becoming a simple friar again -- a proof vastly more satisfactory

than anyamount of "Nolo episcopari" professions.

        On reaching France, in the journey to Rome, Father O'Crean fell sick,

andbecame unable to proceed further; but the Pope, on receiving his

testimonials,and seeing his qualifications, issued the Brief for his consecration,

which,apparently, took place in France, though this is not expressly

mentioned.  Theappointment is thus recorded in the Consistorial Acts: - "Die 28

Januarii,1562: referente Cardinali Morono, Sua Sanctitas profidit Reverendi

DominiO'Higgins (written O'Huyghiun,) ordinis Sancti Augustini Professoris de

persona Domini Andreae O'Crean, Hiberni, ordinis Praedicatorum

Professoris,quem R.P. David, presbyter Societatis Jesu in Hibernia commorans per

suaslitteras commendavit."

        Unlike his predecessor, Dr. O'Higgins, whose self-will and

untractableness oftemper lost him the esteem of the people, Dr. O'Crean was a favourite

with allclasses in his diocese, but more particularly with the native

inhabitants ofSligo, who were proud of him as one of themselves.   The feeling was

mutual,for the good bishop had a special live [sic] for his fellow townsmen;

andamong the benefits, conferred by him on his native town, may be

mentioned, inparticular, a cross, which he erected at the bottom of the present

MarketStreet.[end.]

 

 

From:        Fatarm@aol.comAdd to Address Book   Date:        Tue, 17 Nov 1998 10:57:48 EST

 Subject:        [CRYAN-L] More online bookstores/book sources/book locators

    To:      CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

CENTRAL BOOK LOCATOR for GENEALOGISTS

http://www.genealogy-books.com/locator.htm

Updated daily. Bookmark, as books are continually added.

100 books just added from MD, MASS, NC, CANADA,

SCOTLAND.

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 20:54:11 -0800

From: James Maloney <megaralt@worldnet.att.net>

 

Some Good On-line Sources for Irish Books &c.:

http://www.amazon.com                   Amazon.com

http://www.abebooks.com/                The Advanced Book Exchange [my favorite!]

http://www.iol.ie/%7Ecelticbk/          The Celtic Bookshop: Limerick

http://www.irishbooks.com/              The Irish Bookshop: New York

http://www.irishbook.com                Irish Books & Media: Minneapolis

http://www.iol.ie/resource/kennys/      Kennys Bookshop: Galway

http://indigo.ie/~deburca/deburca.htm   De Búrca Rare Books: Dublin

http://indigo.ie/~cathach/              Cathach Books: Dublin

http://www.hannas.ie/                   Fred Hanna's Bookstore: Dublin

http://www.hodgesfiggis.com/            Hodges Figgis Online: Dublin

http://www.hughesbooks.com/             Hughes and Hughes: Limerick

http://www.wombat.ie/cic/               Clo Iar Chonnachta: Galway

http://www.genealogical.com/            Genealogical Publishing Co: Balto

http://www.macbeth.com.au/index.html    Macbeth Genealogical Services

http://www.genealogy.org/~ajmorris/     AJMORRIS GENEALOGY Home Page

 

From:        Fatarm@aol.comAdd to Address Book   Date:        Tue, 17 Nov 1998 11:01:02 EST

 Subject:        [CRYAN-L] Invitation to Post Sites    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

 

I had a thought -- I "met" a lot of you through your postings online at

various sites around the world-wide web.  How about sharing your

posting sitesso that others can look them up?  I think at least 3 or 4 of you have

your ownweb pages, some others of you have posted details at ancestry.com or

genforum.com -- why not do a sort of "roll call" of these sites?  It'd

be aquick way to catch each other up, especially the more recent joinees.

Just anidea, Leslie

P.S.  My family searches are posted through rootsweb, id=fatarm, but I

haven'tupdated in 3 months, so the dates may be off.

 

Date:        Tue, 17 Nov 1998 11:21:27 -0500 (EST)  From:        simone samuel <amethyst@inch.com>Add to Address Book Subject:        [CRYAN-L] FAQ?    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

After reading Leslie's suggestion to list posting sites, I thought maybe

I'd mention an idea that had been floating through my head, to make a

Frequently Asked Questions list for this mailing list. Sometimes I want

toask someone if they've thought of looking at say switchboard.com or

ancestry.com (since I don't have much else to share,) but it could get

soredundant. Then I thought the idea itself might be redundant because

thereare so many genealogy links sites out there. But maybe it would be nice

tohave a Cryan et al. specific one - including general genealogy links,

andthen all specific links, book listings, and other important things to

know. Of course since I am making this suggestion I'll volunteer to try

toput it together if it sounds good. I'm slow, but I could probably do an

OKjob combing through past postings, links I know of, and any suggestions

people give me to assemble it. There isn't such a document already that

Ihave missed, right? I could put it on my web site, or it could be

periodically posted, etc. Just an idea.

 

 

From:        "jmitchell" <jmitchell@ameritech.net>Add to Address Book

 Subject:        Re: [CRYAN-L] Invitation to Post Sites

   Date:        Tue, 17 Nov 1998 12:52:36 -0500    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Hi all,

OK, I'll bite. One of my favorites is

<www.genforum.com>

The problem is they don't _yet_ have a forum for Cregan, Craigen,

Cryan...If everyone were to e-mail them a quick request on their built in web

pagerequest form at

<http://genforum.familytreemaker.com/new.html>

we'd have that forum(s)! They state that a certain number of requests

arerequired to set up a new surname forum but they _don't_ state what that

number is sooo everyone - please take a few minutes to do this. Once

done,you (Leslie) have another place to solicit members to this list.

One glitch to requesting ~Everyone will automatically request their version/spelling of the Cryan

surname which will probably not be enough of any single spelling to get

GenForum's attention. We could agree on a couple spellings that are

differentenough to warrant their own forum. I'd suggest CRYAN & CREGAN of course,

and request both as most Cregan/Creegan/Craghen/Craigen... researchers

would not take a second look at a Cryan forum. Your thoughts, Leslie?

Well,that's my 2 cents.Jojmitchell@ameritech.net   jmitchell@stones.com

Looking for Cregan/Craigen/Creighen from County Limerick, IRE to

Ontario,CANAffiliated names are Mulvihill, Kennelly, Bannon, O'Neill, Culhane,

Donovan& Oster.

 

From:        Fatarm@aol.comAdd to Address Book   Date:        Wed, 18 Nov 1998 01:12:23 EST

 Subject:        [CRYAN-L] FAQ/Great sources document    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

 

Even if you hadn't volunteered, I was all set to nominate you, Theresa!

 Soconsider this a second to that nomination  -- do you know how to get

into thearchives of this list?  Because we've all posted some good things.  And

don'tforget to post to the list where on the web (if it is) your info can be

found-- other Crehan/Crean researchers will be interested (especially those

with aCatherine Crehan) ... Leslie

 

  From:        Fatarm@aol.comAdd to Address Book   Date:        Wed, 18 Nov 1998 01:26:04 EST

 Subject:        [CRYAN-L] www.Genforum.com    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

 

Well, they've already had 3 requests from me for Cryan -- it'sinteresting to

hear how the process works.I'll be honest -- although this list is almost 1/4 Cryan researchers,

according to MacLysaght, that guy who did all the research on surnames

andtheir origins in Ireland, Cryans are under Crean -- and Creaghans,while theirown group to some extent, are pretty much lumped in with Crean, too. Then youhave the MacCroghan/Croghans, who have a definite distinct origin, butbecauseof the anglicization of Irish/gaelic, get all confused with the

Creaghans andCreans and all of our variations.  When I find a new site, I usually

have tocheck over a dozen different spellings -- the problem is partially

genforum'sset-up.  And the researchers, too.  I'm a classic case:  when I started

thismailing list I had no real clue that the Cryan name was so often

confused withCrean or anything else.So, if we have to pick, let's do Crean and Creaghan and MacCroghan. But, andhere's the plug, at least post your surnames on rootsweb's list -- it's

freeoff the main rootsweb page (www.rootsweb.com), and although it doesn't

allowdescriptions or christian names, it does allow for a location and date

range.And you automatically get notified everytime someone with the same

surnamespelling also posts their research up to rootsweb.Ask my opinion, and unfortunately you're likely to get it.  You don'thave touse it, but you'll get it .... LeslieP.S.  I had luck with genforum on a different line, so it really is agreatbulletin-board like posting place:  I was looking for a Keelin, and

althoughunlucky there, found info under Keeling and Keeland. 

 

 

  From:        Fatarm@aol.comAdd to Address Book   Date:        Wed, 18 Nov 1998 01:41:47 EST

 Subject:        [CRYAN-L] Website - Cryan from Sligo to MA    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

*Just a reminder folks - make sure you email/reply to

"Cryan-L@rootsweb.com"

-- I'm not single-ing (no dictionary at hand, had to make sure I came

close tothe right spelling) you out Erica -- this has happened three times in

the pastweek - once by me!!*- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

Hi everyoneI have a site at

http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Woods/6036/index.html

where you can submit your surnames for free.  There is also a bulletin

boardandsome other good stuff.I'm researching Cryan line from Co. Sligo to MA, USA.

ThanksErica

 

Date:        Wed, 18 Nov 1998 07:31:25 -0500 (EST)  From:        simone samuel <amethyst@inch.com>Add to Address Book Subject:        Re: [CRYAN-L] FAQ/Great sources document    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

I have saved almost every post I've received - I think a couple got

accidentally deleted but that's it. (including whichever post mentioned

where the archives are. If I'm imagining that there was one, please let

meknow where they are!) It'd just take a lot of repetitive motion with the

mouse one night, then jotting down URLs and titles as I went through

eachmsg, then maybe later adding on certain question & answers and stuff

likethat. Not sure when I'll get to it, although chances are I'm just

foolingmyself that I'll be busy with term papers any time except the nights

before they're due.Theresa Mary

 

Date:          Wed, 18 Nov 1998 08:00:18 -0500 (EST)    From:          simone samuel <amethyst@inch.com>Add to Address Book Reply-To:          simone samuel <amethyst@inch.com>

  Subject:          [CRYAN-L] where my info is posted      To:          CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

 

For the time being, my (old) family info is available at

http://www.inch.com/~amethyst/family.htm. Any of you Catherine Crehan

researchers should be aware that "Margaret O'Donoghue (?)" now equals

either Catherine Logan or Catherine Walsh, apparently - born circa 1872

inDonegal (another "we think") - married in Massachusetts to a ? Crehan

fromRoscommon in the 1890s, died 1952 in NY. I'd just change it on the page

right now, but it seems to require more than a simple html tweaking.

I also have an entry at rootsweb, but it would be really pointless for

anyone to look up - here's all it says:

Crehan       1906   now MA>Brooklyn,NY,USA

Ought to change that 1906 too, since someone on list was nice enough to

send me info that gave an earlier DOB for a great-uncle.

Theresa Maryembarassed at this laziness

From:        Fatarm@aol.comAdd to Address Book   Date:        Wed, 18 Nov 1998 10:18:10 EST

 Subject:        [CRYAN-L] Re-post: Archive Retrieval    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

[Re-post:]

For those with an interest to see what was discussed before they

subscribed,who have had a computer crash, or just wish to go back and re-live

delightfulO'Crean postings come some rainy day, please know that there is a

(somewhat)searchable archive available.  It's limited in power and it didn't

begin untilwe'd sent maybe 10 or so messages, but you can check it out at the below

hotlink or the following:

http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/members/archives.html

Yes, our words have been recorded -- it's a little complicated to

follow alongthe retrieval instructions, but it can be done.  I was able to pull up

message20, but nothing under message #10, so the archive must have kicked in

sometimebetween (it's just as well -- the first few messages were just me and my

brother testing out the list to make sure it worked).  And since the

Cryanswere the next people on the list, and they've re-posted in the past

month Ibelieve, basically all the info previously shared through the list is

accessible.  I haven't tried out the search feature -- if someone does,

pleaselet me know if you have success or failure.

Theresa - thanks.  I, too, have been saving messages -- all of them for

thepast month, when lo and behold I went to retrieve them from the floppy

to findthat the @8*#%! disk had a faulty directory.  Even Norton disk doctor

told meto save what I could then reformat the disk (you know that's bad news!)

-- soI'll be doing major archive retrieval, too.  And, from a veteran member

of thelast minute club -- good luck on your exams (what's your major?) -- the

Cryanstuff won't disappear any time soon, it'll wait till break ....

 

From:        Fatarm@aol.comAdd to Address Book   Date:        Wed, 18 Nov 1998 10:58:46 EST

 Subject:        [CRYAN-L] The Famine Ships by Edward Laxton    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

This book, about the Irish Exodus to America (including British N.

America,i.e., Canada) is worth a read.  It's a bit inflammatory, bringing out

everyinstance of cruel behaviour or death, and perhaps trumping up those

instanceswhere a landlord or ship was British.  But it's a fast read and gives

plentyof detail about the voyage across the Atlantic.          Compared to the convicts transported to Australia, the emigrants to N.America had a truly barbarous experience during the Famine Years.

There arecontemporary accounts of shipwrecks, starvation and cruelty on board,

landlordeviction/transportation, voyages lasting more than two months (a few

overthree months) and the horror of Grosse Isle, Quebec.  Even if your

ancestorsdidn't come over to N. America during this period, it's an important

part ofIrish history that shouldn't be skipped over.

"The Famine Ships:  The Irish Exodus to America 1846-51", by Edward

Laxton;Henry Holt & Co., NY, 1996.  Originally publ. G.B. by Bloomsbury Publ.,

1996.ISBN 0-8050-5313-1.

 

Date:        Wed, 18 Nov 1998 16:21:00 -0500 (EST)  From:        simone samuel <amethyst@inch.com>Add to Address Book Subject:        Re: [CRYAN-L] Re-post: Archive Retrieval    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

 

Thanks for re-posting that Leslie, I'm sure it wouldn't have taken memuchmore work than it did you to find it... I am undecided as to major, onlyin my second semester, but thinking along the lines of history and/orlanguages or linguistics. I guess both of those could relate to thegenealogy interest, huh. I'm pretty sure there are no Irish historyclasses at my current school, but I've always found what little tidbitsI've learned (like on the list) interesting. Trying to learn thelanguagewas another story. I spent $10 for the Teach Yourself book... a fewpagesin decided maybe I'd just learn to *read* Irish... a few pages laterrealized I greatly overestimated my capabilities.. oh well.Theresa Mary,

sticking to nice, Latinate-phonetic Italian for now

 

 

==== CRYAN Mailing List ====

Surnames being researched by subscribers:  Craigen/Creighan,

Crawn/Craun, Crane, Crain-e, Crean, Creen-e, Creagan/Cregan/Creaghan,

Creah

 

 

  From:        Fatarm@aol.comAdd to Address Book   Date:        Wed, 18 Nov 1998 10:18:10 EST

 Subject:        [CRYAN-L] Re-post: Archive Retrieval    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

 

[Re-post:]

For those with an interest to see what was discussed before they

subscribed,who have had a computer crash, or just wish to go back and re-live

delightfulO'Crean postings come some rainy day, please know that there is a(somewhat)

searchable archive available.  It's limited in power and it didn't

begin untilwe'd sent maybe 10 or so messages, but you can check it out at the below

hotlink or the following:http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/members/archives.html

Yes, our words have been recorded -- it's a little complicated to

follow alongthe retrieval instructions, but it can be done.  I was able to pull up

message20, but nothing under message #10, so the archive must have kicked in

sometimebetween (it's just as well -- the first few messages were just me and my

brother testing out the list to make sure it worked).  And since theCryans

were the next people on the list, and they've re-posted in the pastmonth I

believe, basically all the info previously shared through the list is

accessible.  I haven't tried out the search feature -- if someone does,

pleaselet me know if you have success or failure.

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - -Theresa - thanks.  I, too, have been saving messages -- all of them for

thepast month, when lo and behold I went to retrieve them from the floppy

to findthat the @8*#%! disk had a faulty directory.  Even Norton disk doctor

told meto save what I could then reformat the disk (you know that's bad news!)

-- soI'll be doing major archive retrieval, too.  And, from a veteran member

of thelast minute club -- good luck on your exams (what's your major?) -- the

Cryanstuff won't disappear any time soon, it'll wait till break ....

 

 

From:        Fatarm@aol.comAdd to Address Book   Date:        Thu, 19 Nov 1998 10:50:32 EST

 Subject:        [CRYAN-L] Co. Kerry/Dingle Peninsula    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

I know we have one Crean researcher specifically interested in this

location,as well as two or three others who trace their families back to Co.

Kerry, soI thought I'd repost this message to our list (in case you don't see it

elsewhere).  May it help one of you -- let us all know if it does!

Leslie - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

Beannachtaí, (greetings)

 

I would like to invite you to my IRISH GENEALOGY web page. Its

especially forthose searching their  Kerry ancestors with a focus on the Dingle

Peninsula. Igathered up a lot of General Irish Links and Genealogy Links l that I

found helpful on my search and provided them on the Links page...  Its my

first attempt and ITS NOT FANCY, but I hope you find it useful!

If this is blue and underlined click on it:

 <A HREF="http://members.aol.com/waterlilys/index.html">A Dingle,

County Kerry

Ireland, Genealogy Help Page (Page 1)</A>

otherwise this should do the trick:

http://members.aol.com/waterlilys/index.html

Slán go foille,(Bye for now)

mary in orlando     :  Waterlilys@aol.com 

PS Sorry for the repetition for those on many Irish Lists... only this

once!

TIOCFAIDH AR LA   (our day will come)   

 

From:        Fatarm@aol.comAdd to Address Book   Date:        Thu, 19 Nov 1998 12:20:05 EST

 Subject:        [CRYAN-L] LDS listings - my impressions    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Here's where I'm at -- I've decided that I am going to post the LDS

listingsto the list, but by location.  I'll make sure to place the location in

thesubject line so that we can all avoid locations we're not interested

in.  Ofcourse, if you're like me, and have a family that moves around (my

GGgranddadwas in the RIC) a bit, then this won't be the best way for you.  But

onceyou've seen the type of info you can email me directly as to what you

want andthe sorting preferences.The reason I'm going to do it this way is:

1. to just get it done quickly while I figure out some more permanent

way tooffer the info;

2. it's an easy way to break down the info usefully; and,

3. the limitations of the info.

The main limitation of the info is that there is no explanation of what

amountof transcribing was attempted, and it simply could not possibly be all

that isout there.  My general understanding of parish-held info (such as birth,

christening and marriage, the info I'm sharing) is that each parishpriest or

diocese decides whether or not to share with the Church of Latter Day

Saints(LDS)--  many would have problems in doing so.  I don't want to spread

mis-information or step on any religious toes, but rather than leave this

sentenceunexplained I will just explain that some people have strong feelings

againstthe Mormon church or don't like the practice of "conversion" one

group/sect ofMormons practice (names of people regardless of religion are converted

to theMormon faith, even after death -- the sect believes this is a way to

helppeople get into heaven).  Cryan researchers will probably instantly

recognizethat not all the Roscommon or Sligo tonwlands are covered.  I don't know

whether in reality the LDS got to everywhere, whether they were denied

access,or only targeted certain areas.Another limitation is that it is all grouped under the Crane surname,

as ifvariations of that surname.  It is good news for those of you who areCreanes

and Cranes -- it may only be part of the picture for those of you withCraine,

Creaghan and Croghan variations.  The list leaves out all CreGan types,although CreHeen appears on the list.Lastly, although there are several pre-19th c. names, I think 1876 is

the mostrecent date, and it is largely a mid-19th c. list (1820-1866).

As I mentioned before, I've read opinions that the LDS historians, while

certainly providing more info quickly than can be easily obtained any

otherway, have only touched upon maybe 1% of what's actually out there, or of

people who actually came before the 20th c.  Who's to know?  I haven't

readanything by the LDS Family History Centers (FHC) to say one way or

another,except to say that they have lots.  So, don't be discouraged if you

don't seea connection -- this list is a printout as of March 1988, and there may

already be more available at your local FHC.  Or out there within a

particularparish's records, or at an Irish County genealogy bank.

That all said, here's a little humor to make us better appreciate what

IS available through the LDS -- enjoy, Leslie.

 

These questions are from actual correspondence received by the LDS

Family History Library: - Our 2nd great-grandfather was found dead crossing the plains in the

library. - He was married 3 times in the endowment house and has 21 children.

 - For running down Wheelers, I will send $3 more.

 - He and his daughter are listed as not being born.

 - I would like to find out if I have any living relatives or dead

relativesor ancestors in my family.

 - Will you send me a list of all the Dripps in your library?

 - My grandfather died at age 3.

 - We are sending you 5 children in a separate envelope.

 - Documentation: Family Bible in possession of Aunt Merle until

tornado hit

Topeka, Kansas, now only the Good Lord knows where it is....

 - We lost our grandmother. Will you please send us a copy?

 - Will you please send me the name of my first wife. I have forgotten

her name.

 - A 14 year old boy wrote: "I do not want you to do research for me.

Will

you please send me all the material on the Welch line in the U.S.,

England andScotland countries? I will do the research."

- Further research will be necessary to eliminate one of my parents.

 

From:        Fatarm@aol.comAdd to Address Book   Date:        Fri, 20 Nov 1998 10:34:25 EST

 Subject:        [CRYAN-L] Timothy Crean    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

I just received this thoughtful email -- while I search my files, Ithought

those of you with a Crean in the tree might like to see it, too:- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

I noticed on the Cork List that you are interested in the Crean name.

In some family paperwork, I have a TIMOTHY CREAN as a god-parent to one

of mygr-aunts, Bridget Radley, 1854; it was in Coachford.Coachford is in the areas of Clonmoyle,Cork.  There are other listingsofmarriages & births in this area along with Dunmanway, Mallow,

Doneraile.  Themarriages were to the surnames:  Roberts, Murphy, Barrett and Roche.

Any of these in you search?Deirdra Condon Sullivan  sullibob@ma.ultranet.com

Searching:  CONDON/RADLEY; BALDWIN/O'CALLAGHAN; O'CALLAGHAN/CONDON;

BARRETT/DESMOND; NAGLE/DESMOND

 

 

From:        "Michael Tobin" <tobinmi@hotmail.com>Add to Address Book

   Date:        Fri, 20 Nov 1998 10:51:34 PST Subject:        [CRYAN-L] genforum + other sites

    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

In response to the posting re useful genealogy sites which we regularly

browse, here are ones I use :-

www.genforum.com/ireland/ + some surnames ones on genforum

As someone pointed out, you email them to get a dedicated forum for a

name and they have some criteria for deciding whether to create the

forum or not. I'm not sure if these criteria are related to number of

requests, as I also have emailed them on at least 3 occasions asking

for a form for the Cryan name.

http://names.local.ie/cgi-bin/get_name.cgi?name=cryan

Local Ireland Cryan forum. They also have genealogy forums per county -

see www.local.ie. You can set it up so that they email you whenever

there is a new posting to the forum - it will email you the contents of

the posting. Its not a very active forum however and no longer seems to

be linked from the main page www.local.ie.

http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/Ireland/Sligo

Rootsweb sligo forum. This seems to be a fairly active forum and the

rest of the Sligo Web site is interesting. You can subscribe to get

email whenever there is a new posting, but unfortunately it only emails

you the title of the posting and the name of the person who posted it -

you have to visit the site to view the text.

http://www.dejanews.com/

A Web-based newsgroup reader, where you can browse soc.genealogy.* and

subscribe to them such that you can log in and view unread postings. I

use it quite a bit. It used to have a link with the rootsweb GENIRE

mail list such that posting were cross-posted to each list but that was

discontinued about a month ago due to a lot of crap being sent around

on the soc.genealogy.ireland list. Generally however, its a good list and

if you have access to a Web browser, very easy to use.regardsMichael

______________________________________________________

From:        Fatarm@aol.comAdd to Address Book   Date:        Fri, 20 Nov 1998 22:33:00 EST

 Subject:        [CRYAN-L] Post #1: LDS' listings - Antrim to Clare    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

The best way to view these may be to put them in your word processor and

stretch them -- I get a little carried away on field-ing.  The "-"means afield is blank.  Let me know if you make a connection or find new info!Leslie

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -  - - - - - - - - - -

MORMON BIRTH, CHRISTENING AND MARRIAGE INDEX FOR CRANE AS OF MARCH 1988

Surname First   Event   Event Date      Father Surname  Father First Name       Mother

Surname Mother First Name       Spouse Surname  Spouse First Name       County  Town,

Parish  Other/Notes     Page No.        Line No.

 

Crain   Elizabeth       Marriage        c. 1719  -       -       -       -      Espy    Josiah  Antrim   -     

-       5555    14

Creen   Sarah   Birth   02/10/1865      Creen   William Higgins Catherine        -     

-       Antrim  Belfast, 0244    -      5567    36

Creen   Robert  Birth   18/06/1865      Creen   Robert  Ward    Sarah    -     

-       Antrim  Belfast,0252     -      5567    22

Creen   William John    Birth   01/12/1866      Creen   Thomas  Montague        Susan    -     

-       Antrim  Belfast, 0258    -      5569    20

Creen   Mary    Birth   28/01/1864      Creen   William Higgins Catherine        -     

-       Antrim  Belfast, 0275    -      5562    30

Creen   (Baby)  Birth   01/03/1865      Creen   John    Coulter Margret  -     

-       Antrim  Belfast,0290     -      5551    6

Crean   Alice   Birth   01/06/1866      Crean   Patrick Crooks  Susan    -      

-       Antrim  Belfast,0334     -      5551    12

Crean   Mary    Birth   20/08/1866      Crean   James   Kane    Mary Ann         -     

-       Antrim  Belfast,0340     -      5563    20

Crang   Emma    s ?? (Birth or Christening, most

likely) 03/03/1918      Crang   Tindalater      Owens   Emma     -       -      Antrim  Belfast,

Ballymacrany     -      5556    7

Crane   Mary    Marriage        08/05/1684       -       -       -       -      Dowdall John    Antrim  Lisburn

-       5561    31

Creen   Rose    Birth   09/12/1865      Creen   William O'Hare  Bridget  -     

-       Antrim  Whitehouse District, 0397        -      5567    27

Crane   Bridget Marriage        13/02/1795       -       -       -       -      Doran   James   Carlow  Borris,

Rocksavage Village       -      5552    16

Crane   Maria   Marriage        30/05/1846       -       -       -       -      Brown   Matthew Cavan   Urney

Parish        Registrars Office, 0625 5561    11

Crean   George  Birth   21/07/1864      Crean   Thomas  Emerson Susan    -     

-       Clare   Corrofin,0217     -      5556    8

Crean   Joseph  Birth   05/02/1867      Crean   Thomas  Emerson Susan    -     

-       Clare   Corrofin,0235     -      5559    29

 

 

From:        Fatarm@aol.comAdd to Address Book   Date:        Fri, 20 Nov 1998 22:36:43 EST

 Subject:        [CRYAN-L] Post #2: LDS listing, Cork, Townland (unk) to Doneraile

    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

 

 

MORMON BIRTH, CHRISTENING AND MARRIAGE INDEX FOR CRANE AS OF MARCH

1988                                                                                                           

Surname First   Event   Event Date      Father Surname  Father First Name       Mother

Surname Mother First Name       Spouse Surname  Spouse First Name       County  Town,

Parish  Other/Notes     Page No.        Line No.

 

Crain   Ellen   Birth   c. 1841 Crain   James   Forestal        Mary     -       -      Cork     -     

-       5555

Crane   Catherine       Birth   c. 11/1870       -       -       -       -       -       -      Cork     -       -      5554

Cran    Susanna Christening     02/10/1794      Cran    John     -       -       -     

-       Cork    Ballyhay        -       5567

Crean   Richard Birth   12/12/1864      Crean   John    Bolster Elizabeth        -     

-       Cork    Ballyhooly, 0738         -      5567

Crean   Mary    Birth   29/01/1865      Crean   John    McDonald        Alice    -     

-       Cork    ClonmoyleDistrict 0554           5563

Crean   John    Birth   13/08/1864      Crean   Timothy Roberts Mary     -     

-       Cork    ClonmoyleDistrict, 0471   -      5559

Crean   Catherine       Birth   15/10/1866      Crean   Timothy Roberts Mary     -     

-       Cork    Clonmoyle District, 0473         -      5554

Crane   William Joseph  Birth   30/04/1865      Crane   John    Murphy  Kate     -     

-       Cork    Cork,0114     -      5569

Crean   Joseph  Birth   25/03/1865      Crean   Joseph  Horgan (Morgan?)        Margaret         -     

-       Cork    Cork, 0118       -      5559

Crean   Jeremiah John   Birth   20/11/1867      Crean   John    Murphy  Kate     -     

-       Cork    Cork,0119     -      5557

Crean   Patrick Birth   18/02/1864      Crean   Cornelius       Leary   Nancy    -     

-       Cork    Cork,0121     -      5566

Crean   Anne    Birth   02/06/1866      Crean   Patrick Fair    Anne     -       -      Cork    Cork,

0129    -       5551

Crane   Timothy Birth   21/02/1864      Crane   Daniel  McCarthy        Kate     -     

-       Cork    Cork,0136     -      5569

Crean   (Baby)  Birth   07/11/1866      Crean   Thomas  Cronin  Catherine        -     

-       Cork    Cork,0148     -      5551

Crane   Mary Ellen      Birth   28/04/1864      Crane   Patrick Fair    Ann      -     

-       Cork    Cork,0150     -      5563

Crane   Ellen   Birth   28/07/1867      Crane   George  Paterson        Margaret         -     

-       Cork    Cork,0165     -      5556

Crane   Timothy Birth   14/03/1864      Crane   Cornelius       Coakley Julia    -     

-       Cork    Cork,0175     -      5569

Crain   (Baby)  Birth   31/01/1866      Crain   Robert  Finchin Sarah    -     

-       Cork    Cork,0198     -      5551

Craine  Cateren Christening     12/04/1646      Craine  Peeter (Peter)   -       -       -     

-       Cork    Cork, Holy Trinity (Christ Church)       -      5553

Criane  John    Christening     08/11/1646      Criane  John    Criane  Joane    -     

-       Cork    Cork,Holy Trinity (Christ Church)     -      5557

Creane  Cornelius       Marriage        09/12/1810       -       -       -     

-       Coote   Theodocia       Cork    Doneraile        -      5554

 

  From:        Fatarm@aol.comAdd to Address Book   Date:        Fri, 20 Nov 1998 22:38:41 EST

 Subject:        [CRYAN-L] Post#3: LDS listing: Cork, Misc. Townlands    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

 

MORMON BIRTH, CHRISTENING AND MARRIAGE INDEX FOR CRANE AS OF MARCH

1988                                                                                                           

Surname First   Event   Event Date      Father Surname  Father First Name       Mother

Surname Mother First Name       Spouse Surname  Spouse First Name       County  Town,

Parish  Other/Notes     Page No.        Line No.

 

Crane   John    Christening     18/04/1840      Crane   Mich (Michael?) Connor  Alice    -     

-       Cork    Dromtarriff     Roman Catholic  5558    14

Crean   Daniel  Birth   21/01/1864      Crean   John    Murphy  Honora   -     

-       Cork    Dunmanway,0228     -      5554    26

Crean   Daniel  Birth   26/04/1866      Crean   Timothy Murphy  Mary     -     

-       Cork    Dunmanway,0263     -      5554    27

Crane   Patrick Birth   03/11/1865      Crane   Cornelius       Crane   Ellen    -     

-       Cork    Kilshannig District, 0514               5566    18

Crean   Michael Birth   19/03/1866      Crean   Cornelius       Connors Ellen    -     

-       Cork    Kilshannig District, 0555               5564    25

Crane   Ellinor Christening     12/06/1798      Crane   Patrick Crane   Mary     -     

-       Cork    Macroom  -      5556    4

Crean   Anne    Christening     15/06/1727      Crean   Thomas   -       -       -     

-       Cork    Macroom -       5551    24

Crean   Mary    Christening     15/06/1727      Crean   Thomas   -       -       -     

-       Cork    Macroom -       5561    32

Crean   Michael Birth   31/08/1865      Crean   Timothy Barrett Mary     -     

-       Cork    MallowDistrict, 0627   -      5564    22

Crean   Jas.    Marriage        23/04/1791       -       -       -       -      Smith   Cath.

(Catherine)     Cork    Mallow Parish   -      5557    30

Crean   Mary    Birth   22/08/1865      Crean   Denis   Callaghan       Catherine        -     

-       Cork    Rahan,

0495     -      5563    10

Crane   Bridget Birth   03/12/1864      Crane   Michael Rea     Ellen    -     

-       Cork    Rahan, 0514    

-       5552    26

Crean   John    Birth   16/04/1866      Crean   Michael Rea     Ellen    -       -      Cork    Rahan,

0568    -       5559    10

Crean   Thomas  Marriage        29/05/1845       -       -       -       -      Sutherland      Jessie  Cork    St.

Anne's Shandon, 0327    -      5568    8

 

From:        Fatarm@aol.comAdd to Address Book   Date:        Fri, 20 Nov 1998 22:41:15 EST

 Subject:        [CRYAN-L] Post #4: LDS listings: Cork, Inchigeelagh    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

 

MORMON BIRTH, CHRISTENING AND MARRIAGE INDEX FOR CRANE AS OF MARCH

1988                                                                                                           

Surname First   Event   Event Date      Father Surname  Father First Name       Mother

Surname Mother First Name       Spouse Surname  Spouse First Name       County  Town,

Parish  Other/Notes     Page No.        Line No.

 

Crane   Pat. (Patrick)  Christening     05/03/1817      Crane   Pat.

(Patrick)       Driscoll        Narry    -       -      Cork    Inchigeelagh Parish     Roman

Catholic        5565    32

Crean   Ty.     Christening     23/02/1873      Crean   Jn. (Jonathan)  Leary   Ellen    -     

-       Cork    Inchigeelagh Parish     Roman Catholic  5569    7

Crean   Mgt. (Margaret) Christening     21/05/1875      Crean   Jn.

(Jonathan?)     Leary   Ellen    -       -      Cork    Inchigeelagh Parish     Roman

Catholic        5564    8

Crean   (Corn.) Cornelius       Christening     09/10/1848      Crean   John    Murphy  Mgt.

(Margaret?)      -       -      Cork    Inchigeelagh Parish     Roman Catholic  5554    17

Crean   Barry   Christening     17/04/1838      Crean   John    Shine   Mary     -     

-       Cork    Inchigeelagh Parish     Roman Catholic  5551    38

Crean   Daniel  Christening     15/02/1846      Crean   John    Cotter  Norry    -     

-       Cork    Inchigeelagh Parish     Roman Catholic  5554    25

Crean   Ellen   Christening     20/07/1836      Crean   John    Shine   Mary     -     

-       Cork    Inchigeelagh Parish     Roman Catholic  5555    27

Crean   Mgt. (Margaret) Christening     12/05/1849      Crean   John    Cotter  Norry    -     

-       Cork    Inchigeelagh Parish     Roman Catholic  5564    5

Crean   Timothy Christening     08/02/1838      Crean   John    Reily   Jenny    -     

-       Cork    Inchigeelagh Parish     Roman Catholic  5568    31

Crean   Timothy Christening     15/02/1846      Crean   John    Cotter  Norry    -     

-       Cork    Inchigeelagh Parish     Roman Catholic  5568    32

Crean   Ellen   Christening     22/09/1850      Crean   Tim. (Timothy)  Murphy  Mgt.

(Margaret)       -       -      Cork    Inchigeelagh Parish     Roman Catholic  5555    30

Crean   Barry   Christening     16/06/1843      Crean   Timothy Murphy  Mgt.

(Margaret?)      -     

-       Cork    Inchigeelagh Parish     Roman Catholic  5551    39

Crean   Bat     Christening     05/07/1861      Crean   Ty.     Murphy  Mgt. (Margaret?)         -     

-       Cork    Inchigeelagh Parish     Roman Catholic  5552    1

Crean   Mary    Christening     29/11/1835      Crean   William Leary   Ellen    -     

-       Cork    Inchigeelagh Parish     Roman Catholic  5562    12

Crean   Ellen   Marriage        03/03/1835       -       -       -       -      Kearney Edm.

(Edmund/Edmond) Cork    Inchigeelagh Parish     Roman Catholic  5555    26

Crean   Jim     Marriage        28/11/1818       -       -       -       -      Oldham  Jane    Cork    Inchigeelagh

Parish  Roman Catholic  5557    33

Crean   John    Marriage        08/02/1872       -       -       -       -      Leary   Ellen   Cork    Inchigeelagh

Parish  Roman Catholic  5559    19

Crean   John    Marriage        23/02/1841       -       -       -       -      Leary   Bat     Cork    Inchigeelagh

Parish  Roman Catholic  5558    15

Crean   Mary    Marriage        08/02/1833       -       -       -       -      Leary   James   Cork    Inchigeelagh

Parish  Roman Catholic  5562    6

Crean   Mgt. (Margaret) Marriage        13/02/1872       -       -       -     

-       Brien   James   Cork    Inchigeelagh Parish     Roman Catholic  5564    7

Crean   Ty.     Marriage        20/02/1841       -       -       -       -      Murphy  Mgt.

(Margaret)      Cork    Inchigeelagh Parish     Roman Catholic  5569    6

Creane  Daniel  Christening     13/04/1845      Creane  (Tim.) Timothy  Murphy  Mary   

-       -       Cork    Inchigeelagh Parish     Roman Catholic  5554    24

Creane  John    Christening     08/04/1855      Creane  John    Cotter  Norry    -     

-       Cork    Inchigeelagh Parish     Roman Catholic  5558    31

Creane  Jude    Christening     08/11/1857      Creane  John    Cotter  Norry    -     

-       Cork    Inchigeelagh Parish     Roman Catholic  5559    32

Creane  Norry   Christening     11/05/1852      Creane  John    Cotter  Norry    -     

-       Cork    Inchigeelagh Parish     Roman Catholic  5565    25

Creane  Robert  Christening     03/05/1860      Creane  John    Cotter  Norry    -     

-       Cork    Inchigeelagh Parish     Roman Catholic  5567    21

Creane  Patrick Christening     12/03/1853      Creane  Patrick Kearney Jude     -     

-       Cork    Inchigeelagh Parish     Roman Catholic  5566    5

Creane  Timothy Christening     17/10/1854      Creane  Tim. (Timothy)  Murphy  Mgt.

(Margaret)       -       -      Cork    Inchigeelagh Parish     Roman Catholic  5568    34

Creane  James   Christening     17/09/1857      Creane  Ty.     Murphy  Mary     -     

-       Cork    Inchigeelagh Parish     Roman Catholic  5557    4

Creane  Mgt. (Margaret) Christening     24/12/1864      Creane  Ty.     Murphy  Mgt.

(Margaret)       -       -      Cork    Inchigeelagh Parish     Roman Catholic  5564    6

Creane  (Cath.) Catherine       Marriage        29/02/1824       -       -       -     

-       Kearney Patrick Cork    Inchigeelagh Parish     Roman Catholic  5553    13

Creane  Pat     Marriage        09/11/1851       -       -       -     

-       Kearney Jude    Cork    InchigeelaghParish  Roman Catholic  5565    30

Krean   John    Christening     05/03/1842      Krean   Ty.     Murphy  Mgt. (Margaret)  -     

-       Cork    Inchigeelagh Parish     Roman Catholic  5558    17

 

From:        Fatarm@aol.comAdd to Address Book   Date:        Fri, 20 Nov 1998 22:43:21 EST

 Subject:        [CRYAN-L] Post #5: LDS listing: Donegal, Misc. Down townlands    To:

        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

 

MORMON BIRTH, CHRISTENING AND MARRIAGE INDEX FOR CRANE AS OF MARCH

1988                                                                                                           

Surname First   Event   Event Date      Father Surname  Father First Name       Mother

Surname Mother First Name       Spouse Surname  Spouse First Name       County  Town,

Parish  Other/Notes     Page No.        Line No.

 

Crean   Mary Victoria   Birth   24/05/1865      Crean   John W.         Carty   Dora M.  -     

-       Donegal Killeybegs, 0115         -      5564    1

Crane or Crone  Mary    Birth   c. 1764  -       -       -       -       -       -      Down     -     

-       5561    33

Crane   Eliza Jane      Birth   19/08/1866      Crane   John    Rice    Margret  -     

-       Down    Clough,0529     -      5555    12

Crane   Patrick Birth   28/07/1868      Crane   John    Rice    Margret  -     

-       Down    Clough,0569     -      5566    24

Crane   Emily B.        Marriage        29/04/1839       -       -       -       -      Martin  William

Thompson        Down    Downpatrick      -      5556    5

Crane   Emily B.        Marriage        29/04/1839       -       -       -     

-       Thompson        William Down    Downpatrick      -      5556    6

Creen   Rose    Birth   09/10/1864      Creen   James   Seeds   Ann      -     

-       Down    Killyleagh, 0491        -       5567    26

Creen   Margaret        Birth   11/02/1867      Creen   James   Leeds   Ann      -     

-       Down    Killyleagh,0566     -      5561    2

Creen   Agness  Birth   12/10/1866      Creen   Thomas  Dickson Sarah    -     

-       Down    Loughbrickland, 0216     -      5551    11

Creen   Richard Birth   19/06/1867      Creen   Henry   Smith   Mary     -     

-       Down    Partaferry,0647     -      5567    19

Creen   George  Birth   16/07/1865      Creen   Robert  Breen   Elizabeth        -     

-       Down    Strangford, 0528         -      5556    9

Creen   (Baby)  Birth   28/07/1867      Creen   Robert  Breen or Creen, Eliza   Eliza  

-       -       Down    Strangford, 0558         -      5551    10

 

From:        Fatarm@aol.comAdd to Address Book   Date:        Fri, 20 Nov 1998 22:45:14 EST

 Subject:        [CRYAN-L] Post #6: LDS listing: Co. Down, Dromore Parish    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

 

MORMON BIRTH, CHRISTENING AND MARRIAGE INDEX FOR CRANE AS OF MARCH

1988                                                                                                           

Surname First   Event   Event Date      Father Surname  Father First Name       Mother

Surname Mother First Name       Spouse Surname  Spouse First Name       County  Town,

Parish  Other/Notes     Page No.        Line No.

 

Cran    James   Birth   10/01/1821      Cran    William Cran    Isabella         -     

-       Down    DromoreParish   -      5556    33

Crane   Joseph McComb   Birth   01/11/1825      Crane   Iam ?

(blurred)       McComb  Isabella         -      -       Down    Dromore Parish   -      5559    31

Crane   Anne    Christening     02/08/1789      Crane   James   Shanks  Mary     -     

-       Down    DromoreParish   -      5551    25

Crane   Anne    Christening     04/11/1804      Crane   James   Crane   Mary     -     

-       Down    DromoreParish   -      5551    26

Crane   Elizabeth       Birth   21/03/1852      Crane   James   Black   Elizabeth        -     

-       Down    Dromore Parish   -      5555    18

Crane   James   Birth   21/11/1849      Crane   James   Black   Elizabeth        -     

-       Down    DromoreParish   -      5557    2

Crane   Margaret        Birth   25/03/1855      Crane   James   Black   Elizabeth        -     

-       Down    DromoreParish   -      5560    33

Crane   Mary    Christening     01/07/1787      Crane   James   Shanks  Mary     -     

-       Down    DromoreParish   -      5561    34

Crane   William Birth   03/05/1847      Crane   James   Crane   Elizabeth        -     

-       Down    DromoreParish   -      5569    13

Crane   William Christening     24/03/1793      Crane   James   Shanks  Mary     -     

-       Down    Dromore Parish   -      5569    11

Crane   Anna    Birth   13/11/1844      Crane   Joseph  McKeown Elizabeth        -     

-       Down    DromoreParish   -      5551    17

Crane   David Lindsay Christening     09/10/1850      Crane   Joseph  McKeown Elizabeth        -     

-       Down    Dromore Parish   -      5554    29

Crane   Eliza Ann       Birth   04/06/1838      Crane   Joseph  McKeown Eliza    -     

-       Down    DromoreParish   -      5555    11

Crane   James Henry     Birth   24/09/1836      Crane   Joseph  McKeown Elizabeth        -     

-       Down    Dromore Parish   -      5557    23

Crane   Joseph  Birth   17/08/1853      Crane   Joseph  Crane   Sarah    -     

-       Down    DromoreParish   -      5559    25

Crane   Joseph  Birth   26/07/1842      Crane   Joseph  McKeown Elizabeth        -     

-       Down    Dromore Parish   -      5559    24

Crane   Margaret        Birth   11/07/1856      Crane   Joseph  McKeown Mary     -     

-       Down    DromoreParish   -      5560    34

Crane   Margaret        Birth   21/10/1854      Crane   Joseph  Miscummins      Sarah    -     

-       Down    Dromore Parish   -      5560    32

Crane   Margaret        Birth   26/07/1842      Crane   Joseph  McKeown Elizabeth        -     

-       Down    Dromore Parish   -      5560    28

Crane   Mary Jane       Birth   25/03/1840      Crane   Joseph  McKeown Elizabeth        -     

-       Down    Dromore Parish   -      5563    38

Crane   Sarah   Birth   22/10/1846      Crane   Joseph  Crane   Elizabeth        -     

-       Down    DromoreParish   -      5567    32

Crane   William John    Birth   14/10/1848      Crane   Joseph  Crane   Elizabeth        -     

-       Down    Dromore Parish   -      5569    18

Crane   William John    Christening     17/02/1830 or 17/02/1850      Crane   Joseph  McKimmins       Sarah    -       -      Down    Dromore Parish  -       5569    19

Crane   William Reid    Birth   11/12/1852      Crane   Joseph  McKeown Elizabeth        -     

-       Down    Dromore Parish   -      5569    22

Crane   Dianna  Birth   09/04/1840      Crane   William McComb  Isabella         -     

-       Down    DromoreParish   -      5554    31

Crane   Elizabeth       Birth   17/10/1832      Crane   William McComb  Isabella         -     

-       Down    Dromore Parish   -      5555    17

Crane   Margaret        Birth   09/03/1823      Crane   William Crane   Isabella         -     

-       Down    Dromore Parish   -      5560    19

Crane   Sarah Jane      Birth   21/01/1837      Crane   William McComb  Isabella         -     

-       Down    Dromore Parish   -      5567    39

Crane   Elizabeth       Marriage        22/02/1816       -       -       -     

-       Fulton  James   Down    DromoreParish   -      5555    16

Crane   James   Marriage        03/07/1844       -       -       -       -      Black   Elizabeth       Down    Dromore

Parish   -      5557    1

Crane   John    Marriage        23/11/1819       -       -       -       -      Junken  Mary    Down    Dromore

Parish  -       5558    4

Crane   Mary    Birth   30/07/1867       -       -      Crane   Sara Jane        -       -      Down    Dromore

Parish  -       5563    28

Crann   Elizabeth       Christening     30/01/1791      Crann   James   Shanks  Mary     -     

-       Down    Dromore Parish   -      5555    15

Crann   Jane    Christening     12/11/1797      Crann   James   Shanks  Mary     -     

-       Down    DromoreParish   -      5557    26

Crann   Margaret        Birth   12/12/1800      Crann   James   Shanks  Mary     -     

-       Down    DromoreParish   -      5560    18

Crann or Crane  Isabella        Birth   07/05/1828      Crann or

Crane   William McComb  Isabella         -       -      Down    Dromore Parish   -      5556    30

Crann or Crane  Margaret        Marriage        26/01/1833       -       -       -     

-       Sands   Thomas  Down    Dromore Parish   -      5560    22

 

From:        Fatarm@aol.comAdd to Address Book   Date:        Fri, 20 Nov 1998 22:47:03 EST

 Subject:        [CRYAN-L] Post #7: LDS listing: Dublin    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

 

MORMON BIRTH, CHRISTENING AND MARRIAGE INDEX FOR CRANE AS OF MARCH

1988                                                                                                            

Surname First   Event   Event Date      Father Surname  Father First Name       Mother

Surname Mother First Name       Spouse Surname  Spouse First Name       County  Town,

Parish  Other/Notes     Page No.        Line No.

 

Chrane  James   Birth   10/04/1866      Chrane  Patrick Moore   Margaret         -     

-       Dublin  Balbriggan, 0445         -      5557    18

Crean   Anna Teriza     Birth   30/06/1864      Crean   Barthmw. (Bartholomew)

Plunkett        Graham  Anne     -       -      Dublin  Dublin, 0520     -      5551    21

Cryan   Robert William Whitty   Birth   14/10/1865      Cryan   Robert  Whitty  Mary

Ellen   -        -      Dublin  Dublin, 0538     -      5567    23

Crean   Joseph Bartholomew Plunket      Birth   18/04/1866      Crean   Joseph

BartholomewPlunket Graham  Theresa Anne     -       -      Dublin  Dublin, 0556     -      5559    30

Crane   EdwardChristopher     Birth   06/01/1867      Crane   Edward  Philips Margaret         -     

-       Dublin  Dublin, 0593     -      5555    5

Crean   Mary Jane       Birth   14/05/1865      Crean   Edward  Travers Mary     -     

-       Dublin  Dublin, 0663     -      5563    39

Crean   Michael Birth   14/05/1865      Crean   Edward  Travers Mary     -     

-       Dublin  Dublin,0663     -      5564    21

Crane   Edward  Christening     30/10/1670      Crane   John    Crane   Mary     -     

-       Dublin  Dublin,Saint Michan     -      5554    34

Crane   John    Christening     01/01/1663      Crane   John    Crane   Mary     -     

-       Dublin  Dublin,Saint Michan     -      5558    1

Crane   Jon. (Jonathan) Christening     10/01/1663      Crane   John    Crane   Mary     -     

-       Dublin  Dublin, Saint Michan     -      5559    22

Crane   Michaell        Christening     26/09/1662      Crane   John    Crane   Mary     -     

-       Dublin  Dublin, Saint Michan     -      5565    4

Crayne  Thomas  Marriage        24/04/1679       -       -       -     

-       Hoole   Margery Dublin  Dublin,Saint Michan     -      5568    3

Crane   Annabella       Marriage        26/02/1808       -       -       -       -      Walker  Fredk.

(Frederick)     Dublin  Dublin, St. Ann's        -      5551    22

Crane   James   Marriage        04/05/1868       -       -       -       -      Paul    Mary    Dublin  Rathgar,

R.C.Chapel   -      5557    22

Cran    Maggie Anna     Birth   01/12/1865      Cran    James   Gordon  Elizabeth        -     

-       Dublin  Rathmines, 0731  -      5560    16

Cran    Peter James     Birth   01/12/1865      Cran    James   Gordon  Elizabeth        -     

-       Dublin  Rathmines, 0731  -      5567    11

Cran    (Baby)  Birth   01/02/1867      Cran    James   Gordon  Elizabeth        -     

-       Dublin  Rathmines, 0804  -      5551    9

 

From:        Fatarm@aol.comAdd to Address Book   Date:        Fri, 20 Nov 1998 22:49:18 EST

 Subject:        [CRYAN-L] Post #8: LDS listing: Fermanagh - Misc. Galway    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

 

MORMON BIRTH, CHRISTENING AND MARRIAGE INDEX FOR CRANE AS OF MARCH

1988                                                                                                           

Surname First   Event   Event Date      Father Surname  Father First Name       Mother

Surname Mother First Name       Spouse Surname  Spouse First Name       County  Town,

Parish  Other/Notes     Page No.        Line No.

 

Crean   James   Birth   23/06/1866      Crean   Robert  Porter  Anne     -     

-       Fermanagh       Tempo,0085     -      5557    20

Crane   Wm. (William)   Christening     13/01/1822      Crane   John    Crane   Bridget  -     

-       Galway  Athenry  -      5569    26

Crean   John    Christening     20/05/1829      Crean   Roger   Crean   Catherine        -     

-       Galway  Castlegar R. C. Parish   -      5558    9

Crean   Biddy   Christening     27/02/1829      Crean   John    Fox     Margaret         -     

-       Galway  Castlegar R.C. Parish    -      5552    8

Crean   Mary    Christening     01/04/1827      Crean   Patt    Madden  Bridgett         -     

-       Galway  Castlegar R.C. Parish    -      5562    1

Crean   Biddy   Christening     17/06/1827      Crean   Roger   Crean   Catherine        -     

-       Galway  Castlegar R.C. Parish    -      5552    7

Crean   Brian   Christening     30/07/1828      Crean   Thomas  Connell Biddy    -     

-       Galway  Castlegar R.C. Parish    -      5552    15

Crean   Catherine       Christening     30/03/1829      Crean   Thomas  Doherty Mary     -     

-       Galway  Castlegar R.C. Parish    -      5553    25

Crean   Jonathan        Christening     10/03/1829      Crean   Redmond O'Brien Honor    -     

-       Galway  Castlegar, R.C. Parish   -      5559    23

Creahan Hugh    Birth   30/06/1864      Creahan Patt    Hanbury Bridget  -     

-       Galway  Dranmore, 0284   -      5556    28

Creahan Mary    Birth   27/08/1865      Creahan Thomas  Stephens        Elizabeth        -     

-       Galway  Glennamaddy, 0315        -      5563    11

Crane   Anne    Birth   17/08/1866      Crane   John    Hannon  Biddy    -     

-       Galway  Killeroran,0413     -      5551    37

Crynes  Bridgett        Birth   24/01/1865      Crynes  Patt    Shaughnessey    Elizabeth        -     

-       Galway  Killeroran, 0436         -      5553    3

Crean   Honor   Birth   16/03/1848      Crean   John    Healy   Bridget  -     

-       Galway  Menlough        -       5556    22

Crean   John    Birth   20/02/1851      Crean   John    Healy   Bridget  -     

-       Galway  Menlough        -       5558    27

Crean   Catherine       Birth   c. 03/1814      Crean   Patrick Craven  Honora   -     

-       Galway  Menlough         -      5553    20

Crean   Michael Birth   10/05/1812      Crean   Patrick Craven  Honora   -     

-       Galway  Menlough         -      5564    9

Crean   Patrick Birth   15/03/1818      Crean   Patrick Craven  Honora   -     

-       Galway  Menlough         -      5566    1

Crane   Ellen   Marriage        01/09/1841       -       -       -       -      Gleeson Michl.

(Michael)       Galway  Partumna (? blurry)      -      5555    29

Crane   Bridget Christening     16/04/1853      Crane   John    Mullowney       Bridget  -     

-       Galway  Rahoon   -      5552    22

Creahan Margaret        Birth   13/06/1866      Creahan James   Joyce   Bridget  -     

-       Galway  Tuam, 0555       -      5560    39

Crean   Ellen   Birth   24/06/1866      Crean   Patrick Kennedy Ellen    -     

-       Galway  Williamstown, 0325       -      5556    1

Crine   Marcus  Birth   28/11/1865      Crine   Marcus  O'Beirne        Mary Ann         -     

-       Galway  Williamstown, 0326       -      5560    17

 

From:        Fatarm@aol.comAdd to Address Book   Date:        Fri, 20 Nov 1998 22:52:35 EST

 Subject:        [CRYAN-L] Post #9: LDS listing: Galway, Castlegar by Galway    To:

        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

 

MORMON BIRTH, CHRISTENING AND MARRIAGE INDEX FOR CRANE AS OF MARCH

1988                                                                                                           

Surname First   Event   Event Date      Father Surname  Father First Name       Mother

Surname Mother First Name       Spouse Surname  Spouse First Name       County  Town,

Parish  Other/Notes     Page No.        Line No.

 

Crain   Cate    Christening     07/02/1839      Crain   Thomas  Connell Biddy    -     

-       Galway  Castlegar by Galway      -      5553    11

Crane   Kate    Christening     25/06/1840      Crane   John    Francis Agnes    -     

-       Galway  Castlegar by Galway      -      5560    9

Crane   Thomas  Christening     07/12/1837      Crane   John    Francis Agnes    -     

-       Galway  Castlegar by Galway      -      5568    5

Crane   Bryan   Christening     15/03/1839      Crane   Michael Mullin  Winny    -     

-       Galway  Castlegar by Galway      -      5553    8

Crane   Honor   Christening     19/05/1840      Crane   Michael Mullen  Winny    -     

-       Galway  Castlegar by Galway      -      5556    20

Crane   Cate    Christening     26/02/1838      Crane   Owen    Burke   Margaret         -     

-       Galway  Castlegar by Galway      -      5553    10

Crane   Patt    Christening     04/07/1838      Crane   Patt    Kafe    Ellen    -     

-       Galway  Castlegarby Galway        -      5566    36

Crane   Honor   Christening     10/11/1836      Crane   Rodger  Crane   Cate     -     

-       Galway  Castlegar by Galway      -      5556    19

Crane   Patt    Christening     27/02/1839      Crane   Rodger  Crane   Cate     -     

-       Galway  Castlegar by Galway      -      5566    38

Crane   James   Christening     17/07/1864      Crane   Thomas  Connell Bridget  -     

-       Galway  Castlegar by Galway      -      5557    9

Crane   John    Christening     14/04/1840      Crane   Thomas  Connell Bid (Biddy?)     -     

-       Galway  Castlegar by Galway      -      5558    13

Crane   Thomas  Christening     12/04/1830      Crane   Thomas  Connell Biddy    -     

-       Galway  Castlegar by Galway      -      5568    4

Crane   Thomas  Christening     24/04/1856      Crane   Thomas  Connell Bridget  -     

-       Galway  Castlegar by Galway      -      5568    10

Crean   Bridgett        Christening     26/12/1833      Crean   John    Francis Agnes    -     

-       Galway  Castlegar by Galway      -      5553    2

Crean   Honer   Christening     05/12/1842      Crean   John    Francis Agnes    -     

-       Galway  Castlegar by Galway      -      5556    17

Crean   Honor   Christening     16/03/1848      Crean   John    Healy   Bridget  -     

-       Galway  Castlegar by Galway      -      5556    21

Crean   John    Christening     20/02/1851      Crean   John    Healy   Bridget  -     

-       Galway  Castlegar by Galway      -      5558    26

Crean   John    Christening     20/04/1853      Crean   John    Francis Agnes    -      

-       Galway  Castlegar by Galway      -      5558    30

Crean   John    Christening     22/08/1842      Crean   John    Fox     Margaret         -     

-       Galway  Castlegar by Galway      -      5558    19

Crean   Judy    Christening     20/12/1831      Crean   John    Fox     Peggy    -     

-       Galway  Castlegarby Galway        -      5559    33

Crean   Mary    Christening     24/07/1835      Crean   John    Francis Agnes    -     

-       Galway  Castlegar by Galway      -      5562    11

Crean   Michael Christening     31/01/1845      Crean   Martin  Sullivan        Kate     -     

-       Galway  Castlegar by Galway      -      5564    14

Crean   Catherine       Christening     20/11/1843      Crean   Michael Mullin  Wenny    -      

-       Galway  Castlegar by Galway      -      5553    29

Crean   Ellen   Christening     20/02/1851      Crean   Michael Mullin  Winny    -     

-       Galway  Castlegar by Galway      -      5555    31

Crean   John    Christening     04/05/1842      Crean   Michael Mullen  Wenny    -     

-       Galway  Castlegar by Galway      -      5558    18

Crean   Margaret        Christening     02/09/1845      Crean   Michael Francis Agnes    -     

-       Galway  Castlegar by Galway      -      5560    30

Crean   Mary    Christening     08/12/1853      Crean   Michael Mullin  Winny    -     

-       Galway  Castlegar by Galway      -      5562    26

Crean   Michael Christening     08/02/1854      Crean   Michael Healy   Bridget  -     

-       Galway  Castlegar by Galway      -      5564    18

Crean   Thomas  Christening     05/06/1849      Crean   Michael Mullin  Wenny    -     

-       Galway  Castlegar by Galway      -      5568    9

Crean   Biddy   Christening     30/11/1833      Crean   Owen    Burke   Peggy    -     

-       Galway  Castlegar by Galway      -      5552    9

Crean   James   Christening     17/07/1836      Crean   Pat     Jaffe   Nelly    -     

-       Galway  Castlegar by Galway      -      5556    36

Crean   Bridget Christening     09/10/1850      Crean   Patrick McDonogh        Ellen    -     

-       Galway  Castlegar by Galway      -      5552    21

Crean   Edmund  Christening     16/04/1849      Crean   Patrick McDononogh      Ellen    -     

-       Galway  Castlegar by Galway      -      5554    33

Crean   Michael Christening     18/02/1849      Crean   Patrick Codum   Ellen    -     

-       Galway  Castlegar by Galway      -      5564    16

Crean   Patrick Christening     30/01/1853      Crean   Patrick Mullin  Bridget  -     

-       Galway  Castlegar by Galway      -      5566    4

Crean   Catherine       Christening     03/09/1845      Crean   Patt    Keeffe  Ellen    -     

-       Galway  Castlegar by Galway      -      5553    30

Crean   Honor   Christening     25/12/1853      Crean   Patt    McDonogh        Ellen    -     

-       Galway  Castlegar by Galway      -      5556    23

Crean   John    Christening     25/05/1841      Crean   Patt    Kupp    Ellen    -     

-       Galway  Castlegarby Galway        -      5558    16

Crean   Judy    Christening     26/05/1833      Crean   Patt    Reely   Catherine        -     

-       Galway  Castlegar by Galway      -      5559    34

Crean   Mary    Christening     05/05/1832      Crean   Patt    Madden  Biddy    -     

-       Galway  Castlegar by Galway      -      5562    5

Crean   Mary    Christening     10/01/1835      Crean   Patt    Keoff   Ellen    -     

-       Galway  Castlegar by Galway      -      5562    8

Crean   Mary    Christening     27/03/1844      Crean   Patt    Keeff   Ellen    -     

-       Galway  Castlegar by Galway      -      5562    19

Crean   Margaret        Christening     05/12/1831      Crean   Redmond O'Brien Honor    -     

-       Galway  Castlegar by Galway      -      5560    21

Crean   Edward  Christening     27/05/1842      Crean   Roger   Crean   Cate     -     

-       Galway  Castlegar by Galway      -      5555    1

Crean   Margaret        Christening     31/03/1834      Crean   Roger   Crean   Catherine        -     

-       Galway  Castlegar by Galway      -      5560    24

Crean   Mary    Christening     27/11/1831      Crean   Roger   Crean   Catherine        -     

-       Galway  Castlegar by Galway      -      5562    4

Crean   Thomas  Christening     27/07/1844      Crean   Roger   Crean   Catherine        -     

-       Galway  Castlegar by Galway      -      5568    7

Crean   Bridget Christening     02/09/1857      Crean   Stephen Mullowney       Bridget  -     

-       Galway  Castlegar by Galway      -      5552    23

Crean   Bryan   Christening     11/06/1843      Crean   Thomas  Connell Biddy    -     

-       Galway  Castlegar by Galway      -      5553    9

Crean   John    Christening     11/09/1858      Crean   Thomas  Connell Bridget  -     

-       Galway  Castlegar by Galway      -      5558    33

Crean   Margaret        Christening     04/12/1834      Crean   Thomas  Connell Biddy    -     

-       Galway  Castlegar by Galway      -      5560    25

Crean   Margaret        Christening     15/10/1850      Crean   Thomas  Connell Bridget  -     

-       Galway  Castlegar by Galway      -      5560    31

Crean   Mary    Christening     30/10/1852      Crean   Thomas  Connell Bridget  -     

-       Galway  Castlegar by Galway      -      5562    25

Crean   Michael Christening     09/07/1848      Crean   Thomas  Connell Bridget  -     

-       Galway  Castlegar by Galway      -      5564    15

Crean   Michael Christening     24/08/1832      Crean   Thomas  Connell Biddy    -     

-       Galway  Castlegar by Galway      -      5564    12

Crean   Patt    Christening     15/03/1832      Crean   Thomas  Doherty Mary     -     

-       Galway  Castlegar by Galway      -      5566    34

Crean   Patt    Christening     01/10/1854      Crean   Thomas  Connell Bridget  -     

-       Galway  Castlegar by Galway      -      5567    5

Crean   Patt    Christening     06/12/1860      Crean   Thomas  Connell Bridget  -     

-       Galway  Castlegar by Galway      -      5567    6

Crean   Catherine       Marriage        25/01/1832       -       -       -     

-       Cochlan Thomas  Galway  Castlegar by Galway      -      5553    26

Crean   John    Marriage        27/10/1838       -       -       -       -      Feeny   Ellen   Galway  Castlegar

by Galway   -      5558    12

Crean   Mary    Marriage        29/01/1835       -       -       -     

-       Connell John    Galway  Castlegar by

Galway   -      5562    9

Crean   Roger   Marriage        19/01/1843       -       -       -     

-       Glynn   Honor   Galway  Castlegar by

Galway, B. Bane  -      5567    25

Crean   Martin  Marriage        15/03/1844       -       -       -     

-       Sullivan        Catherine       Galway  Castlegar by Galway, Bally Brill         -      5561    23

Crean   Patt    Marriage        24/01/1831       -       -       -     

-       Cain    Margaret        Galway  Castlegar by

Galway, Bally Leam       -      5566    33

Crean   John    Marriage        14/02/1828       -       -       -     

-       Fox     Margaret        Galway  Castlegar by

Galway, Brocky   -      5558    8

Crane   Michael Marriage        17/02/1838       -       -       -     

-       Mullin  Winny   Galway  Castlegar by

Galway, Menlo    -      5564    13

Crane   Thomas  Marriage        24/02/1838       -       -       -     

-       Connell Biddy   Galway  Castlegar by

Galway, Menlo    -      5568    6

Crean   Bridget Marriage        13/01/1859       -       -       -     

-       Fahy    Michael Galway  Castlegar by

Galway, Menlo    -      5552    24

Crean   Catherine       Marriage        24/01/1829       -       -       -     

-       Francis Andrew  Galway  Castlegar by Galway, Menlo       -      5553    24

Crean   Honor   Marriage        25/03/1834       -       -       -       -      Haly    James   Galway  Castlegar

by Galway, Menlo    -      5556    18

Crean   John    Marriage        09/02/1833       -       -       -     

-       Francis Agnes   Galway  Castlegar by

Galway, Menlo    -      5558    11

Crean   John    Marriage        23/02/1846       -       -       -     

-       Healy   Bridget Galway  Castlegar by

Galway, Menlo    -      5558    21

Crean   Margaret        Marriage        12/02/1863       -       -       -     

-       Kearny  William Galway  Castlegar

by Galway, Menlo         -      5560    35

Crean   Margaret        Marriage        22/06/1844       -       -       -     

-       Duggan  Peter   Galway  Castlegar

by Galway, Menlo         -      5560    29

Crean   Mary    Marriage        28/05/1835       -       -       -     

-       Casserly        John    Galway  Castlegar by

Galway, Menlo    -      5562    10

Crean   Patt    Marriage        10/02/1834       -       -       -       -      Keefe   Ellen   Galway  Castlegar

by Galway, Menlo    -      5566    35

Crean   Patt    Marriage        26/11/1845       -       -       -     

-       McDonough       Ellen   Galway  Castlegar by

Galway, Menlo    -      5567    2

Crean   Margaret        Marriage        06/10/1827       -       -       -     

-       Burke   Luke    Galway  Castlegar by

Galway, Ringmore         -      5560    20

Crean   Owen    Marriage        03/11/1832       -       -       -       -      Burke   Peggy

(Margaret?)     Galway  Castlegar by Galway, Ringmore    -      5565    28

Crean   Patt    Marriage        05/02/1843       -       -       -     

-       Murphy  Ellen   Galway  Castlegar by

Galway, Sherdon or Sheroon       -      5567    1

Crean   Mary    Marriage        18/03/1844       -       -       -       -      Nester  Patt    Galway  Castlegar

byGalway, Terryland        -      5562    18

Crean   Sarah   Marriage        27/05/1848       -       -       -     

-       Collins John    Galway  Castlegar by

Galway, Terryland        -      5567    33

 

Date:        Fri, 20 Nov 1998 23:06:14 -0500 (EST)  From:        simone samuel <amethyst@inch.com>Add to Address Book Subject:        Re: [CRYAN-L] Post #6: LDS listing: Co. Down, Dromore Parish

    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

 

Thanks for going to the trouble to post all this, Leslie. I have only

looked at it very cursorily (word?) yet but I'm interested since we

thinkwemay have been Creans instead of Crehans over there. I just thought you

should be thanked :)T. Mary

 

From:        Fatarm@aol.comAdd to Address Book   Date:        Fri, 20 Nov 1998 23:07:58 EST

 Subject:        [CRYAN-L] Post #10: LDS listing: Galway, Galway    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

 

MORMON BIRTH, CHRISTENING AND MARRIAGE INDEX FOR CRANE AS OF MARCH

1988                                                                                                           

Surname First   Event   Event Date      Father Surname  Father First Name       Mother

Surname Mother First Name       Spouse Surname  Spouse First Name       County  Town,

Parish  Other/Notes     Page No.        Line No.

 

Craine  Thos. (Thomas)  Marriage        06/05/1793       -       -       -     

-       Glynn   Honor   Galway  Galway   -      5568    25

Crane   Patt    Christening     15/08/1852      Crane   Andrew  Connor  Mary     -     

-       Galway  Galway   -      5567    4

Crane   Mary    Christening     18/09/1852      Crane   John    King    Mary     -     

-       Galway  Galway  -       5562    24

Crane   Mary    Christening     22/05/1814      Crane   John    Crane   Margt. (Margaret)        -     

-       Galway  Galway   -      5561    38

Crane   Mary    Christening     29/11/1833      Crane   John    Riredon Margt. (Margaret)      

-       -       Galway  Galway   -      5562    7

Crane   Mary    Christening     c. 03/1838      Crane   Michl. (Michael)        Reilly  Kate     -     

-       Galway  Galway   -      5562    16

Crane   Mary    Christening     13/04/1836      Crane   Owen    Burke   Peggy    -     

-       Galway  Galway  -       5562    13

Crane   Mary Ann        Christening     20/09/1835      Crane   Patt    Kain    Margt.

(Margaret)       -      -       Galway  Galway   -      5563    33

Crane   Patt    Christening     01/11/1838      Crane   Patt    Kane    Margt. (Margaret)        -     

-       Galway  Galway   -      5566    37

Crane   (Baby)  Christening     24/04/1837      Crane   Rodger  Hynes   Mary     -     

-       Galway  Galway   -      5551    1

Crane   Bridget Christening     08/01/1834      Crane   Rodger  Hynes   Mary     -     

-       Galway  Galway   -      5552    19

Crane   Eleanor Christening     06/11/1820      Crane   Roger   Connel  Bridgt

(Bridget)        -      -       Galway  Galway   -      5555    6

Crane   Sabina  Christening     01/05/1819      Crane   Roger   Connell Bridgt.

(Bridget)        -      -       Galway  Galway   -      5567    28

Crane   Mary    Christening     02/05/1825      Crane   Thos. (Thomas)  Broderick       Cathe.

(Catherine)      -       -      Galway  Galway   -      5561    41

Crane   Andrew  Marriage        05/04/1850       -       -       -       -      Connor  Mary    Galway  Galway 

-       5551    14

Crane   Bridget Marriage        05/10/1839       -       -       -     

-       Rush    Alexander       Galway  Galway  -       5552    20

Crane   John    Marriage        24/02/1859       -       -       -       -      Flaherty        Honor   Galway  Galway 

-       5558    35

Crane   Margt. (Margaret)       Marriage        18/01/1837       -       -       -       -      Feeny   Wm.

(William)       Galway  Galway   -      5561    8

Crane   Mary    Marriage        04/03/1862       -       -       -       -      Bane    William Galway  Galway 

-       5562    29

Crane   Mary    Marriage        06/01/1841       -       -       -       -      French  James   Galway  Galway 

-       5562    17

Crane   Patt    Marriage        17/09/1850       -       -       -     

-       Fitzgerald      Mary    Galway  Galway  -       5567    3

Crane   Patt    Marriage        23/01/1862       -       -       -       -      Burke   Mary    Galway  Galway 

-       5567    7

Crane   Rodger  Marriage        16/11/1832       -       -       -       -      Hynes   Mary    Galway  Galway 

-       5567    24

Crane or Burke  John    Marriage        01/07/1850       -       -       -     

-       Bently  Kate    Galway  Galway  -       5558    25

Crean   Bridgett        Christening     26/03/1811      Crean   Edmond  Crean   Marietta         -     

-       Galway  Galway   -      5553    1

Crean   John    Christening     22/04/1811      Crean   Henry   Crean   Mary     -     

-       Galway  Galway  -       5558    2

Crean   John    Christening     29/06/1851      Crean   John    Belton  Kate     -     

-       Galway  Galway  -       5558    28

Crean   Mary    Christening     01/07/1819      Crean   John    Crean   Margt. (Margaret)        -     

-       Galway  Galway   -      5561    39

Crean   Patt    Christening     30/01/1813      Crean   John    Reardon Peggy    -     

-       Galway  Galway   -      5566    31

Crean   John    Christening     17/05/1818      Crean   Patk. (Patrick) Crean   Briget   -     

-       Galway  Galway   -      5558    3

Crean   John    Christening     08/02/1833      Crean   Patt    Kane    Margt. (Margaret)        -     

-       Galway  Galway   -      5558    10

Crean   John Joseph     Christening     11/01/1834      Crean   Patt    Kean    Margt.

(Margaret)       -      -       Galway  Galway   -      5559    20

Crean   Mary    Christening     03/11/1851      Crean   Patt    Fitzgerald      Mary     -     

-       Galway  Galway   -      5562    23

Crean   John    Christening     18/07/1851      Crean   Patt Crean      Sullivan        Cathe.

(Catherine)      -       -      Galway  Galway   -      5558    29

Crean   Thos. (Thomas)  Christening     03/10/1830      Crean   Thos.

(Thomas)        Broderick       Cathe. (Catherine)       -       -      Galway  Galway   -      5568    27

Crean   Mary    Marriage        28/09/1829       -       -       -       -      Clancy  John    Galway  Galway 

-       5562    2

Crean   Michl. (Michael)        Marriage        02/09/1847      

-       -       -     

-       O'Dea   Biddy   Galway  Galway   -      5565    9

Crean   Patt    Marriage        02/06/1812       -       -       -       -      Francis Sally   Galway  Galway 

-       5566    30

Crean   Thos. (Thomas)  Marriage        22/04/1815       -       -       -     

-       Doherty Mary    Galway  Galway   -      5568    26

Creane  Mary    Christening     24/09/1836      Creane  Patt    Kain    Margt. (Margaret)      

-       -       Galway  Galway   -      5562    14

Creane  Mary    Marriage        19/08/1792       -       -       -       -      Fahy    Thady   Galway  Galway 

-       5561    35

Crean   (Baby)  Birth   10/05/1864      Crean   John    Flaherty        Honor    -     

-       Galway  Galway,0285     -      5551    3

Crean   Catherine       Birth   26/12/1864      Crean   John    Bently  Catherine        -     

-       Galway  Galway, 0297     -      5553    34

Crean   Martin  Birth   17/12/1864      Crean   John    Moloney Biddy    -     

-       Galway  Galway,

0297     -      5561    26

 

From:        "Roger Cryan and Regina Pana-Cryan" <cryan@avana.net>Add to Address Book

    To:        <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> Subject:        Walsh and Cryan

   Date:        Fri, 20 Nov 1998 23:29:39 -0500

Kevin,        We've communicated before, and you have my family history.

        I saw from the Rootsweb that you're researching Cryan and Walsh.  I've

been told that my great grandfather's sister Anne Cryan (fromBallinanultagh, Boyle, Roscommon) married a man named Walsh (or Welsh)andmoved to the North.  Is this relevant to your search?

                Roger Cryan

 

From:        Fatarm@aol.comAdd to Address Book   Date:        Fri, 20 Nov 1998 23:48:07 EST

 Subject:        [CRYAN-L] Post #11: LDS listing: Galway, Mount Bellew    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

MORMON BIRTH, CHRISTENING AND MARRIAGE INDEX FOR CRANE AS OF MARCH

1988                                                                                                            

Surname First   Event   Event Date      Father Surname  Father First Name       Mother

Surname Mother First Name       Spouse Surname  Spouse First Name       County  Town,

Parish  Other/Notes     Page No.        Line No.

 

Creahan Patrick Birth   07/02/1864      Creahan Thomas  Creahan Mary     -     

-       Galway  Mount Bellew, 0361       -      5566    6

Creahan Sarah   Birth   29/07/1864      Creahan John    Meehan  Mary     -     

-       Galway  MountBellew, 0403     -      5567    34

Creahan Mary    Birth   17/06/1865      Creahan Thomas  Creahan Honor    -     

-       Galway  MountBellew, 0407     -      5563    8

Creahan John    Birth   27/08/1865      Creahan Thomas  Gormally        Anne     -     

-       Galway  MountBellew, 0411     -      5559    8

Creahan Thomas  Birth   01/09/1865      Creahan Patt    Cunningham      Ellen    -     

-       Galway  Mount Bellew, 0412       -      5568    19

Creahan John    Birth   21/10/1864      Creahan Mathias Fallon  Catherine        -     

-       Galway  Mount Bellew, 0420       -      5559    3

Creahan Maria   Birth   01/10/1864      Creahan John    Crow    Mary     -       -      Galway  Mount

Bellew, 0421     -      5561    15

Creahan Mary    Birth   08/12/1864      Creahan Pat     Ward    Catherine        -     

-       Galway  Mount

Bellew, 0423     -      5563    2

Creahan Mathias Birth   10/04/1864      Creahan John    Morgan  Bridget  -     

-       Galway  Mount Bellew, 0430       -      5564    3

Creahan Bridget Birth   23/04/1866      Creahan Martin  Coleman Catherine        -     

-       Galway  Mount Bellew, 0430       -      5552    33

Creahan Mark    Birth   24/02/1865      Creahan Patt    Lohan   Mary     -       -      Galway  Mount

Bellew, 0442     -      5561    19

Creahan Bridget Birth   18/01/1867      Creahan Thomas  Creahan Honor    -     

-       Galway  Mount Bellew, 0456       -      5552    37

Creahan Catharine       Birth   03/03/1867      Creahan  -dy (Toddy? Thady? Paddy? -

blurred)        Donohoe Mary     -       -      Galway  Mount Bellew, 0458       -      5553    17

Creahan John    Birth   24/02/1867      Creahan Patt    Lohan   Mary     -       -      Galway  Mount

Bellew, 0459     -      5559    15

Creahan Michael Birth   21/11/1865      Creahan John    Farrell Mary     -     

-       Galway  MountBellew, 0479     -      5564    24

Creahan Mark    Birth   04/01/1866      Creahan John    Martin  Mary     -     

-       Galway  Mount

Bellew, 0480     -      5561    20

Creahan Jane    Marriage        10/12/1865       -       -       -       -      Keating Martin  Galway  Mount

Bellew, 1507     -      5557    28

 

From:        Fatarm@aol.comAdd to Address Book   Date:        Fri, 20 Nov 1998 23:48:33 EST

 Subject:        [CRYAN-L] Post #12 (halfway!): LDS listing: Galway, St. Nicholas

    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

MORMON BIRTH, CHRISTENING AND MARRIAGE INDEX FOR CRANE AS OF MARCH

1988                                                                                                            

Surname First   Event   Event Date      Father Surname  Father First Name       Mother

Surname Mother First Name       Spouse Surname  Spouse First Name       County  Town,

Parish  Other/Notes     Page No.        Line No.

 

Crain   Willm. Martin (William Martin) Christening     07/11/1846      Crain   John    Crain   Peggy (Margaret)         -      -       Galway  Galway, St. Nicholas     -      5569    23

Crane   Bartholomew(Barthw.)       Christening     23/08/1835      Crane   Hugh    Crane   Mary     -     

-       Galway  Galway, St. Nicholas     -      5551    40

Crane   Sarah   Christening     24/05/1837      Crane   Hugh    Crane   Mary     -     

-       Galway  Galway,

St. Nicholas     -      5567    30

Crane   Andrew  Christening     07/12/1848      Crane   John    Belton  Kate     -     

-       Galway  Galway, St. Nicholas     -      5551    13

Crane   John    Christening     03/12/1846      Crane   John    Belton  Kate     -     

-       Galway  Galway,

St. Nicholas     -      5558    23

Crane   John    Christening     15/06/1850      Crane   John    Donaghoe        Mary     -     

-       Galway  Galway, St. Nicholas     -      5558    24

Crane   Margtt.(Margaret)      Christening     04/08/1848      Crane   John    Mullowny        Biddy    -     

-       Galway  Galway, St. Nicholas     -      5561    10

Crane   Mary    Christening     28/02/1850      Crane   John    Mullowny        Biddy    -     

-       Galway  Galway, St. Nicholas     -      5562    21

Crane   Michl. (Michael)        Christening     20/01/1846      Crane   John    King    Mary     -     

-       Galway  Galway, St. Nicholas     -      5565    8

Crane   Mary    Christening     21/10/1850      Crane   Martin  Cloherty        Judy     -     

-       Galway  Galway, St. Nicholas     -      5562    22

Crane   Biddy   Christening     07/04/1846      Crane   Michael Conneelly       Biddy    -     

-       Galway  Galway, St. Nicholas     -      5552    10

Crane   Peter   Christening     04/07/1849      Crane   Owen    Walsh   Cathe. (Catherine)     

-       -       Galway  Galway, St. Nicholas     -      5567    9

Crane   John    Christening     17/06/1863      Crane   Patt    Comer   Mary     -     

-       Galway  Galway,St. Nicholas     -      5558    36

Crane   John Joseph     Christening     30/04/1843      Crane   Patt    Kane    Margt.

(Margaret)       -      -       Galway  Galway, St. Nicholas     -      5559    21

Crane   Martin  Christening     08/10/1825      Crane   Patt    Crane   Biddy    -     

-       Galway  Galway, St. Nicholas     -      5561    22

Crane   Sarah   Christening     16/05/1845      Crane   Patt    Kane    Margt. (Margaret)        -     

-       Galway  Galway, St. Nicholas     -      5567    31

Crane   Biddy   Marriage        07/02/1821       -       -       -       -      Guthrie Michl.

(Michael)       Galway  Galway, St. Nicholas     -      5552    5

Crean   Bridget Christening     07/05/1833      Crean   Hugh    Crean   Mary     -     

-       Galway  Galway, St. Nicholas     -      5552    18

Crean   Michl. (Michael)        Christening     30/03/1821      Crean   Jno.    Crean   Biddy    -     

-       Galway  Galway, St. Nicholas     -      5565    5

Crean   Catherine(Cathe.)        Christening     14/02/1863      Crean   John    Flaherty        Honor    -     

-       Galway  Galway, St. Nicholas     -      5553    18

Crean   John    Christening     12/05/1864      Crean   John    Flaherty        Honor    -     

-       Galway  Galway, St. Nicholas     -      5558    38

Crean   Patk. (Patrick  Christening     29/02/1840      Crean   Owen    Crean   Bridget  -     

-       Galway  Galway, St. Nicholas     -      5565    33

Crean   James   Christening     16/03/1822      Crean   Patrick Craven  Honora   -     

-       Galway  Galway, St. Nicholas    Roman Catholic  5556    34

Crean   Andrew (Andw.)  Christening     25/04/1823      Crean   Patt    Crean   Biddy    -     

-       Galway  Galway, St. Nicholas     -      5551    16

Crean   Biddy   Christening     01/10/1826      Crean   Patt    Crean   Biddy    -     

-       Galway  Galway,St. Nicholas     -      5552    6

Crean   Biddy   Christening     21/04/1851      Crean   Patt    Connor  Mary     -     

-       Galway  Galway,St. Nicholas     -      5552    11

Crean   Honor   Christening     11/06/1865      Crean   Patt    Comer   Mary     -     

-       Galway  Galway,St. Nicholas     -      5556    24

Crean   Michl. (Michael)        Christening     06/05/1822      Crean   Patt    Crean   Bidy

(Biddy) -        -      Galway  Galway, St. Nicholas     -      5565    6

Crean   Patt    Christening     29/05/1820      Crean   Patt    Crean   Bridget  -     

-       Galway  Galway, St. Nicholas     -      5566    32

Crean   Briget  Marriage        17/06/1818       -       -       -     

-       Murphy  Bartly  Galway  Galway, St.Nicholas         -      5553    4

Crean   John    Marriage        11/06/1820       -       -       -       -      Burke   Briget  Galway  Galway,

St.Nicholas         -      5558    5

Creane  Patk.(Patrick        Christening     30/08/1860      Creane  John    Flaherty        Honor    -     

-       Galway  Galway, St. Nicholas     -      5565    34

Creane  Catharine       Christening     25/04/1848      Creane  Pat     Keane    -       -     

-       Galway  Galway, St. Nicholas     -      5553    15

Creane  Margaret        Christening     15/11/1839      Creane  Patt    Keane   Margt.

(Margaret)       -      -       Galway  Galway, St. Nicholas     -      5560    27

Creane  William Christening     21/03/1848      Creane  William Kelly   Ann      -     

-       Galway  Galway, St. Nicholas     -      5569    14

 

 

   Date:        Sat, 21 Nov 1998 02:01:34 -0800 (PST)  From:        Caoimhghin O Croidheain caoimhghin@yahoo.com>Add to Address Book Subject:        [CRYAN-L] Leslie's opus

    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

 

hiCongrats to Leslie on the huge amount of time, work and effort not tomention blood, sweat and tears that must have gone into thepreparation of the LDS lists.I would also like to thank Eve for similar earlier work and to say Iam sorry to hear about the death of her mother, Aileen Cryan. The searchable archive means that the work will continue to be valuedfor many years.I wonder how we could go about informing more Cryans,Creans etc aboutthe C-LIST. Pity it didnt exist when I sent my 650 letters to Cryansaround the world!!! Maybe this work could be broken down eg if people

sent a circular to local Cryans, or advertised through local papers???Any suggestions?

Caoimhghin

 

 

Date:        Sat, 21 Nov 1998 04:25:21 -0800 (PST)  From:        Caoimhghin O Croidheain <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>Add to Address Book Subject:        [CRYAN-L] Sample Site

    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Hi,May I suggest you peruse the following site for an example of an

absolutly amazing family history webpage.

http://pw2.netcom/~walshdw/index.html

The variety of links is fascinating especially one where you can enter

the name of an ancestor which can then be accessed by clicking on the

letter of the first name in an index. There is also a short history of

townlands associated withe the name. Plus much, much more...........

Your comments please....

Caoimhghin

 

Date:        Sat, 21 Nov 1998 04:31:39 -0800 (PST)  From:        Caoimhghin O Croidheain <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>Add to Address Book Subject:        Re: [CRYAN-L] Sample Site

    To:        Caoimhghin O Croidheain <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>

Ps If you cant get through to site, try WALSH-L in search engine orthrough rootsweb [for Walsh Family History Homepage]I just tried the address given below and it didn't work...

caoimhghin

 

Date:          Sat, 21 Nov 1998 09:16:38 -0800    From:          D Walsh <walshdw@ix.netcom.com>Add to Address Book Reply-To:          walshdw@ix.netcom.com      To:          Caoimhghin O Croidheain <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>  Subject:          Re: fab site

Caoimhghin O Croidheain wrote:

> > hi again

> I have just looked at your Walsh Family History site and am extremely

> impressed. I just reccommended members of CRYAN-L to look at it as

> good example for a Cryan site. However the address given is not

> working for me. http://pw2.netcom/~walshdw/index.html

> Any idea why?> > caoimhghin

>

Hello again,  Thank you for the compliment.

The full address is :

http://pw2.netcom.com/~walsdhdw/

Can you tell me where you obtained the other address so I may get it corrected? Dennis

 

From:        Fatarm@aol.comAdd to Address Book   Date:        Sun, 22 Nov 1998 10:15:07 EST

    To:        caoimhghin@Yahoo.Com Subject:        Re: Re: Dolan, rootsweb, O'Creans, future postings, Book?

Yeah, I too, am starting to think about the book in the back of myhead.  Afriend/cousin/researcher on my husband's side put out something simple-- justa brief description of the 1000 descendants of Thomas Potts (he settledinS.Carolina c. 1700 from Northumberland).  I'm interested in doing

something alittle different, to be frank, although I think it ought to include some

family charts, raw data such as the death list, etc.  I'd like to seehow muchcan be connected (even w/o a descendant to do it) from the birth etc.list --I recognized family groups as I typed, so it's not impossible.

I'd love to put together something that was readable -- stuff about thelandlords, local history as well as national, politics, occupations,language,transportation, emigration for need as well as economic potential, etc. AndI'd like to send a bunch of copies to libraries I wish had it when I

started!!!And as to that *keg* of Guinness (it IS my fave) I owe you for getting

megoing and giving me and everyone else on this list all this wonderfuldata,the spousal unit just nixxed any trip planning early this year.  Withintwoweeks I expect to know whether we're to remain in Chicagoland or moveto D.C.-- we've already started house hunting (it's so depressing! how little

we canafford for what seems an enormous amount of the bank's money) here, in

case westay.  So, I won't forget my pledge, but it's going to have to be alonger-held one.  Leslie

 

From:        Fatarm@aol.comAdd to Address Book   Date:        Sun, 22 Nov 1998 10:34:13 EST

    To:        caoimhghin@Yahoo.com Subject:        rootsweb links [cryan-l not publicly accessible]

hi - check to make sure that you're in the surname section for Cryan-L

(underC); it's a closed list, as only those who subscribe can post messages

(toprevent spam and flamers, is all).let me double-check the archive info I sent out and let you know if I

gave thewrong instructions or something (entirely likely) -- I'll try and getback to

you before the day is over (here, not there -- I'll probably need that6 hourlag time!) Leslie

 

Date:        Sun, 22 Nov 1998 16:43:33 -0600  From:        cwagner5@juno.com (Carole C Wagner)Add to Address Book Subject:        [CRYAN-L] Help!    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

I get all these neat pages to search and can't seem to access them e.g. http://www.standard.net.au/~jwilliams/d1.htm Another

http://pw2.netcom/~walshdw/index.html another

http://members.aol.com/waterlilys/index.html

If anyone can give me a clue, would sure appreciate it.Thanks in advanceCarole

 

 

From:        Fatarm@aol.comAdd to Address Book   Date:        Sun, 22 Nov 1998 22:25:12 EST    To:

        caoimhghin@YAHOO.COM Subject:        Archive retrieval [not working]

Well, I just attempted it, and still haven't gotten a response.  I tried themethod "get volume98/11" -- the good news is that since it was sent to"Cryan-L-Request", if anything goes wrong, I believe as administrator I shouldbenotified.  The bad news is last time I remember getting a response

fairlyquickly.  I log on most mornings, so when I get on tomorrow a.m., if Ihaven't

gotten anything, I'll email those brains over at rootsweb to see whatthetrouble is.  Ten to one, if we're having the problem, so are lots ofotherfolks.Ta for now, Leslie

Back to Inbox

 

  From:        Fatarm@aol.comAdd to Address Book   Date:        Mon, 23 Nov 1998 11:42:18 EST

    To:        caoimhghin@yahoo.com Subject:        I had success with the archive and Walsh

When I logged on this morning I received my messages from the archived

files,however they were all empty -- I should have used the "get latest/20"

commandinstead of "get volume98/20".  It's also incredibly picky -- has to be

exact,has to be in lowercase, and don't forget to subject it "archive".

Messagesdon't start until somewhere around #10-20 (that's when rootsweb started

up theservice in general for mailing lists).Also, On your Walsh recommended look -- it IS good.  Impressive amountof timespent linking it all up to other sites, the amount of research to

catalogueeveryone, etc.  If you're interested in this type of site for ideas,

you haveto check out Murphy's Public House as well.  This gentleman researches

andcollects all Murphys who pass through or ancestors/descendants pass

throughCuyahoga Co., OH (Cleveland, OH) -- he had some of my distant cousins,

andit's a cute format.  The Walsh format is simpler to use however ...

http://murphy.genealogy.org

By the way, I take it you finished your final chapter?  Or just taking a

break?  I'm off on Thanksgiving holiday in two days -- driving to my

family'sin Cleveland, OH.  I'm hoping to interview one or two more relatives

thisweekend:  may not get any hard cold facts, but I'm looking forward to

hearingthe stories and descriptions of my ancestors ...Leslie

 

Date:        Mon, 23 Nov 1998 16:44:22 -0500  From:        Creaser jonathan_creaser@compuserve.com>Add to Address Book Subject:        Creaser    To:        Kevin Cryan <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>

Dear Kevin,

Yes, I am contactable by e-mail. Didn't you receive my message thanking

youfor all the information you sent? Sorry if it didn't reach you.

I wrote to say I had found Castlecawley, which was given as Larry

Cryan'saddress when his son Michael married in 1866. It is just down the road

fromAchonry, and a mile or so from Moyrush, where a Lawrence was living in

c.1827. I am very puzzled, though, because if Larry was alive in 1866,

there is no trace of his subsequent death in your Civil Registration

list.Cormac Cryan's death appears - he lived at Moyrush and may have been

Larry's brother - but what happened to Lawrence? Perhaps he was dead by

1866 - they didn't always signify that the father was deceased onmarriage

certificates.You have obviously worked very hard to get all these 'Cryan' researchers

on-line - I am not a great expert in accessing the internet, and don't

havea lot of time either, but I am sure we shall all reap benefits from it.

Ihope so, anyway, because my Cryans still seem to be pretty remote, in

spiteof all my research over the years. I have never managed to trace the

restof my great*3 grandparents family over here in England, let alone those

left behind in Ireland. I have bought the programme 'Genealogy for Windows', and had hoped to

havegot it up and running by now, but unfortunately there were problems with

corrupted files, and I have had to reinstall it and start again. It is

quite complicated, and takes time tolearn and get used to. I sometimes

wonder if these programmes are really worth the effort in terms of what

youachieve in the long term.Must go, but glad to hear from you, and apologies again if you haven't

heard from me - I must have done something wrong!Best regards, Mary.

 

From:       Fatarm@aol.comAdd to Address Book   Date:        Mon, 23 Nov 1998 21:31:53 EST

 Subject:        [CRYAN-L] Post #13: LDS listings: Kerry: Anascaul-Castlegregory

    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

 

MORMON BIRTH, CHRISTENING AND MARRIAGE INDEX FOR CRANE AS OF MARCH

1988                                                                                                           

Surname First   Event   Event Date      Father Surname  Father First Name       Mother

Surname Mother First Name       Spouse Surname  Spouse First Name       County  Town,

Parish  Other/Notes     Page No.        Line No.

 

Crean   Margaret        Birth   01/07/1868      Crean   John    Cournane        Margaret         -     

-       Kerry   Anascaul, 0206   -      5561    3

Crean   Johanna Birth   26/06/1866      Crean   John    Cournane        Margaret         -     

-       Kerry   Anascaul, 0207   -      5557    35

Crean   Mary    Birth   26/10/1866      Crean   John    Kennedy Johanna  -     

-       Kerry   Anascaul,0209     -      5563    23

Crean   Kate    Birth   12/08/1864      Crean   John    Cournane        Margaret         -     

-       Kerry   Anascaul,0220     -      5560    10

Crane   Mary    Birth   29/01/1864      Crane   Thomas  Rynd    Norrey   -     

-       Kerry   Anascaul,0223     -      5562    31

Crane   Thomas  Birth   20/12/1864      Crane   Timothy Shea    Ellen    -     

-       Kerry   Anascaul,0225     -      5568    16

Creane  Mary    Birth   01/03/1864      Creane  Patrick Hickson Johanna  -     

-       Kerry   Anascaul, 0225   -      5562    33

Creane  Ellen   Birth   26/04/1864      Creane  Thomas  Gallivan        Honoria  -     

-       Kerry   Anascaul, 0251   -      5555    34

Crean   John    Birth   21/05/1864      Crean   John    Kennedy Johanna  -     

-       Kerry   Anascaul,0252     -      5558    39

Crane   Patrick Birth   25/05/1865      Crane   John    O'Donnell       Kate     -     

-       Kerry   Anascaul,0254     -      5566    16

Crane   Timothy Birth   27/01/1865      Crane   John    Divane  Kate     -     

-       Kerry   Anascaul,0258     -      5569    4

Crean   Timothy Marriage        23/02/1867       -       -       -     

-       Dowling Johanna Kerry   Anascaul,1947     -      5569    5

Crean   Mary    Marriage        14/08/1867       -       -       -       -      Connor  Batt    Kerry   Anascaul,

1949    -       5563    29

Crean   John    Christening     09/04/1843      Crean   Jerh.

(Jeremiah?)     Moriarty        Mary     -      -       Kerry   Ardfert Roman Catholic  5558    20

Crean   Ml. (Michael)   Christening     02/08/1844      Crean   Pat.

(Patrick)       Mahony  Mary    -        -      Kerry   Ardfert Roman Catholic  5565    11

Crenn   John    Christening     17/05/1846      Crenn   Pat. (Patrick)  Mahony  Mary     -     

-       Kerry   Ardfert Roman Catholic  5558    22

Crean   Margaret        Birth   15/07/1868       -       -      Crean   Mary     -       -      Kerry   Brosna,

0613    -       5561    4

Crean   Jeremiah        Birth   28/07/1865      Crean   Jeremiah        Kennedy Mary     -     

-       Kerry   Castlegregory, 0208      -      5557    31

Crean   Michael Birth   18/04/1866      Crean   John    Spillane        Ellen    -     

-       Kerry   Castlegregory, 0229      -      5564    27

Crean   Patrick Birth   08/12/1864      Crean   Patrick Walsh   Ellen    -     

-       Kerry   Castlegregory, 0231      -      5566    10

Crean   James   Birth   29/04/1865      Crean   Martin  Cronin  Ellen    -     

-       Kerry   Castlegregory, 0259      -      5557    14

Crean   John    Birth   30/03/1866      Crean   Peter   Kennedy Mary     -     

-       Kerry   Castlegregory, 0281      -      5559    9

Crean   John    Birth   15/06/1866      Crean   John    Moriarty        Mary     -     

-       Kerry   Castlegregory,0233       -      5559    11

 

From:        Fatarm@aol.comAdd to Address Book   Date:        Mon, 23 Nov 1998 21:30:03 EST

 Subject:        [CRYAN-L] Post #14: LDS listings: Kerry, Castleisland    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

 

MORMON BIRTH, CHRISTENING AND MARRIAGE INDEX FOR CRANE AS OF MARCH

1988                                                                                                           

Surname First   Event   Event Date      Father Surname  Father First Name       Mother

Surname Mother First Name       Spouse Surname  Spouse First Name       County  Town,

Parish  Other/Notes     Page No.        Line No.

 

Crean   Patrick Christening     16/03/1828      Crean   Patrick Connor  Nora     -     

-       Kerry   Castleisland    Roman Catholic  5566    2

Crane   Denis   Christening     02/06/1865      Crane   Tim. (Timothy)  Healy   Mgt.

(Margaret?)      -       -      Kerry   Castleisland    Roman Catholic  5554    30

Crean   James   Christening     21/11/1826      Crean   Corn. (Cornelius)       Hogan   Anne   

-       -       Kerry   Castleisland    Roman Catholic  5556    35

Crean   Ellen   Christening     31/08/1852      Crean   John    Breen   Ellen    -     

-       Kerry   Castleisland    Roman Catholic  5555    32

Crean   Mary    Christening     27/12/1856      Crean   John    Breen   Ellen    -     

-       Kerry   Castleisland    Roman Catholic  5562    27

Crean   Mgt. (Margaret) Christening     28/05/1837      Crean   Mau.

(Maurice)       Mullane Mary     -       -      Kerry   Castleisland    Roman Catholic  5564    4

Crean   Hannah  Christening     29/07/1848      Crean   Mau. (Maurice?) Mullane Mary   

-       -       Kerry   Castleisland    Roman Catholic  5556    15

Crean   Ml. (Michael)   Christening     28/11/1839      Crean   Ml.

(Michael)       Mullins Mary    -        -      Kerry   Castleisland    Roman Catholic  5565    10

Crean   Timothy Christening     09/12/1829      Crean   Ml. (Michael)   Hussey  Mary     -     

-       Kerry   Castleisland    Roman Catholic  5568    30

Crean   (Corn.) Cornelius       Christening     24/02/1830      Crean   Pat.

(Patrick)       Connor  Nora     -       -      Kerry   Castleisland    Roman Catholic  5554    15

Crean   Nicholas        Christening     06/02/1825      Crean   Patrick Connor  Nora     -     

-       Kerry   Castleisland    Roman Catholic  5565    16

Crean   Mary    Christening     30/01/1826      Crean   Peter   Connor  Nora     -     

-       Kerry   Castleisland    Roman Catholic  5561    42

Crean   Eliz. (Elizabeth)       Christening     28/12/1834      Crean   Thomas  Crean   Mgt.

(Margaret)       -       -      Kerry   Castleisland    Roman Catholic  5555    8

Crean   Hannah  Christening     01/07/1829      Crean   Timoth

(Timothy)       Connor  Margaret         -      -       Kerry   Castleisland    Roman Catholic  5556    13

Crean   John    Christening     30/10/1823      Crean   Timothy O'Connor        Nora     -     

-       Kerry   Castleisland    Roman Catholic  5558    6

Crean   Julia   Christening     24/11/1826      Crean   Timothy Connell Bridget  -     

-       Kerry   Castleisland    Roman Catholic  5560    1

Crean   (Corn.) Cornelius       Marriage        10/05/1824       -       -       -     

-       Brosnan Mary    Kerry   Castleisland    Roman Catholic  5554    14

Crean   Catherine       Marriage        15/02/1827       -       -       -     

-       Brosnan Timothy Kerry   Castleisland    Roman Catholic  5553    22

Crean   Catherine       Marriage        16/02/1843       -       -       -     

-       O'Neill Francis Kerry   Castleisland    Roman Catholic  5553    28

Crean   Margaret        Marriage        10/02/1834       -       -       -     

-       Horan   Thomas  Kerry   Castleisland    Roman Catholic  5560    23

Crean   Mary    Marriage        12/10/1826       -       -       -     

-       Brosnan Timothy Kerry   Castleisland    Roman Catholic  5561    44

Crean   Mary    Marriage        30/01/1866       -       -       -     

-       Keane   James   Kerry   Castleisland    Roman Catholic  5563    15

Crean   Mary    Marriage        c. 10/1826       -       -       -     

-       Brosnan Timothy Kerry   Castleisland    Roman Catholic  5561    43

Crean   Michael Marriage        23/01/1828       -       -       -     

-       Hickey  Mary    Kerry   Castleisland    Roman Catholic  5564    10

Crean   Nora    Marriage        10/09/1843       -       -       -     

-       Houlihan        Simeon  Kerry   Castleisland    Roman Catholic  5565    23

 

From:        Fatarm@aol.comAdd to Address Book   Date:        Mon, 23 Nov 1998 21:36:34 EST

 Subject:        [CRYAN-L] Post #15: LDS Listings: Kerry, Currow    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

 

MORMON BIRTH, CHRISTENING AND MARRIAGE INDEX FOR CRANE AS OF MARCH

1988                                                                                                           

Surname First   Event   Event Date      Father Surname  Father First Name       Mother

Surname Mother First Name       Spouse Surname  Spouse First Name       County  Town,

Parish  Other/Notes     Page No.        Line No.

 

Crean   Timothy Christening     20/05/1846      Crean   Charles Keeffe  Cath.

(Catherine)     -        -      Kerry   Currow  Roman Catholic  5568    33

Crean   Bridget Christening     13/11/1830      Crean   Corn.

(Cornelius)     Gleeson Mary     -      -       Kerry   Currow  Roman Catholic  5552    17

Crean   Cornelius       Christening     19/08/1823      Crean   Corn.

(Cornelius)     Dennehy Ellen   -        -      Kerry   Currow  Roman Catholic  5554    21

Crean   John    Christening     22/02/1859      Crean   Corn. (Cornelius)       Mahony  Mary   

-       -       Kerry   Currow  Roman Catholic  5558    34

Crean   Michl. (Michael)        Christening     08/10/1828      Crean   Corn.

(Cornelius)     Dennehy Ellen    -       -      Kerry   Currow  Roman Catholic  5565    7

Crean   Nora    Christening     05/05/1857      Crean   Corn. (Cornelius)       Mahony  Mary   

-       -       Kerry   Currow  Roman Catholic  5565    24

Crean   Timothy Christening     11/03/1826      Crean   Corn.

(Cornelius)     Dennehy Ellen    -      -       Kerry   Currow  Roman Catholic  5568    29

Crean   Patrick Christening     09/05/1828      Crean   Cornelius       Glissane        Mary     -      

-       Kerry   Currow  Roman Catholic  5566    3

Crean   Timothy Christening     28/07/1863      Crean   Cron.

(Cornelius)     Mahony  Mary     -      -       Kerry   Currow  Roman Catholic  5569    1

Crean   Mary    Christening     18/05/1837      Crean   Dl. (Daniel)    Cahill  Ellen    -     

-       Kerry   Currow  Roman Catholic  5562    15

Crean   (Corn.) Cornelius       Christening     15/12/1801      Crean   DL.

(Daniel?)       Russell Ellen    -       -      Kerry   Currow  Roman Catholic  5554    12

Crean   (Corn.) Cornelius       Christening     30/10/1830      Crean   John    Fleming Nora   

-       -       Kerry   Currow  Roman Catholic  5554    16

Crean   Cornelius       Christening     09/05/1830      Crean   John    Fleming Nora     -     

-       Kerry   Currow  Roman Catholic  5554    22

Crean   Julia   Christening     28/11/1828      Crean   John    Fleming Nora     -     

-       Kerry   Currow  Roman Catholic  5560    2

Crean   Mary    Christening     02/09/1844      Crean   Ml. (Michael)   Fleming Mgt.

(Margaret)      -        -      Kerry   Currow  Roman Catholic  5562    20

Crean   (Corn.) Cornelius       Christening     20/03/1858      Crean   Nicholas        Twohey

(Toohy?)        Mary     -       -      Kerry   Currow  Roman Catholic  5554    18

Crean   David   Christening     14/06/1848      Crean   Nicholas        Fleming Cath.

(Catherine?)    -        -      Kerry   Currow  Roman Catholic  5554    28

Crean   Julia   Christening     28/06/1862      Crean   Nicholas        Twohy (Toohy)   Mary     -     

-       Kerry   Currow  Roman Catholic  5560    8

Crean   Mary    Christening     09/02/1860      Crean   Nicholas        Crean   Nora     -     

-       Kerry   Currow  Roman Catholic  5562    28

Crean   Nicholas        Christening     29/04/1838      Crean   Nicholas        Fleming Cath.

(Catherine)      -       -      Kerry   Currow  Roman Catholic  5565    18

Crean   Patrick(Patrk.)        Christening     12/10/1854      Crean   Nicholas        Toohy   Mary     -     

-       Kerry   Currow  Roman Catholic  5566    29

Crean   Catherine       Marriage        05/05/1824       -       -       -       -      Leary   Wm.

(William)       Kerry   Currow  Roman Catholic  5553    21

Crean   Catherine       Marriage        29/11/1827       -       -       -     

-       Moynihan        Denis   Kerry   Currow  Roman Catholic  5553    23

Crean   John    Marriage        09/02/1858       -       -       -     

-       Mahony  Catherine       Kerry   Currow  RomanCatholic        5558    32

Crean   John    Marriage        11/02/1828       -       -       -     

-       Fleming Nora    Kerry   Currow  RomanCatholic        5558    7

Crean   Julia   Marriage        06/03/1859       -       -       -     

-       Sullivan        Batt.   Kerry   Currow  RomanCatholic        5560    7

Crean   Julia   Marriage        10/02/1846       -       -       -     

-       Bradley Patrick Kerry   Currow  RomanCatholic        5560    4

Crean   Julia   Marriage        10/02/1847       -       -       -     

-       Bradley Patrick Kerry   Currow  RomanCatholic        5560    5

Crean   Julia   Marriage        17/01/1831       -       -       -     

-       Eaton   William Kerry   Currow  RomanCatholic        5560    3

Crean   Julia   Marriage        18/02/1851       -       -       -     

-       Kelleher        Maurice Kerry   Currow  Roman Catholic  5560    6

Crean   Margaret        Marriage        18/01/1839       -       -       -     

-       Kean    Edmond  Kerry   Currow  RomanCatholic        5560    26

Crean   Mary    Marriage        15/02/1820       -       -       -     

-       Slattery        James   Kerry   Currow  RomanCatholic        5561    40

Crean   Mary    Marriage        16/02/1831       -       -       -     

-       Butler  Thomas  Kerry   Currow  RomanCatholic        5562    3

Crean   Michael Marriage        09/07/1832 or 09/06/1832         -       -       -     

-       Fleming Catherine       Kerry   Currow  Roman Catholic  5564    11

Crean   Nicholas        Marriage        24/02/1854       -       -       -     

-       Tuohy   Mary    Kerry   Currow  RomanCatholic        5565    19

Creane  (Corn.)Cornelius       Christening     15/12/1801      Creane  Daniel  Russell Ellen  

-        -      Kerry   Currow  Roman Catholic  5554    13

Creane  Hannah  Christening     12/06/1805      Creane  Nicholas        Duggan  Mary     -     

-       Kerry   Currow  Roman Catholic  5556    11

Creane  Nicholas        Christening     10/12/1807      Creane  Nicholas        Duggan  Julia    -     

-       Kerry   Currow  Roman Catholic  5565    15

Creane  Hannah  Christening     29/11/1803      Creane  Patrick Russell Ellen    -     

-       Kerry   Currow  Roman Catholic  5556    10

Creane  Mary    Christening     19/03/1805      Creane  Timothy Murphy  Mary     -     

-       Kerry   Currow  Roman Catholic  5561    37

Creane  Cornelius       Christening     04/06/1809      Creane  Ty.     Murphy  Mary     -     

-       Kerry   Currow  Roman Catholic  5554    19

Creen   Nora    Christening     25/10/1837      Creen   John    Fleming Nora     -     

-       Kerry   Currow  Roman Catholic  5565    22

 

 

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From:        Fatarm@aol.comAdd to Address Book   Date:        Mon, 23 Nov 1998 21:40:18 EST

 Subject:        [CRYAN-L] Post #16: LDS Listings: Kerry-misc.,Kings,Leitrim,Limerick

    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

 

MORMON BIRTH, CHRISTENING AND MARRIAGE INDEX FOR CRANE AS OF MARCH

1988                                                                                                            

Surname First   Event   Event Date      Father Surname  Father First Name       Mother

Surname Mother First Name       Spouse Surname  Spouse First Name       County  Town,

Parish  Other/Notes     Page No.        Line No.

 

Crane   Elizabeth       Birth   16/11/1864      Crane   Thomas  Allman  Catherine        -     

-       Kerry   Kilgobban, 0625  -      5555    19

Crane   Martin  Birth   01/07/1868      Crane   Thomas  O'Donnell       Mary     -     

-       Kerry   Kilgobban, 0627  -      5561    29

Crane   Bridget Birth   20/12/1865      Crane   Thomas  O'Donnell       Mary     -     

-       Kerry   Kilgobban, 0628  -      5552    30

Crane   Hugh    Birth   02/02/1864      Crane   Patrick Fitzgerald      Elizabeth        -     

-       Kerry   Kilgobban, 0692  -      5556    27

Crane   Richard Birth   28/05/1866      Crane   Hugh    O'Donnell       Margaret         -     

-       Kerry   Kilgobban, 0705  -      5567    18

Crane   Martin  Birth   06/06/1866      Crane   Thomas  Allman  Catherine        -     

-       Kerry   Kilgobban, 0705  -      5561    27

Crane   James   Birth   01/03/1866      Crane   Patrick Fitzgerald      Elizabeth        -     

-       Kerry   Kilgobban, 0773  -      5557    15

Crane   Patrick Christening     16/03/1814      Crane   Patrick Dillon  Mgt.

(Margaret)       -      -       Kerry   Killarney       Roman Catholic  5565    36

Crane   Hannah  Christening     13/05/181?      Crane   Ty.     Slatterry       Mgt.

(Margaret)       -      -       Kerry   Killarney       Roman Catholic  5556    12

Crane   Timothy Christening     07/05/1814      Crane   Ty.     Slattery        Mgt.

(Margaret)       -      -       Kerry   Killarney       Roman Catholic  5568    28

Crean   Ellen   Christening     11/04/1858      Crean   Ml. (Michael)   Donoghue        Ellen  

-       -       Kerry   Killarney       Roman Catholic  5555    33

Crean   Edmund  Marriage        25/02/1829       -       -       -     

-       White   Mary    Kerry   Killarney       RomanCatholic        5554    32

Cryan   Nicholas        Marriage        29/11/1830       -       -       -       -      Eaton   Eliz.

(Elizabeth)     Kerry   Killarney       Roman Catholic  5565    17

Crean   Nicholas        Birth   08/02/1865      Crean   Nicholas        Touhy   Mary     -     

-       Kerry   Molahiffe, 0400  -      5565    20

Crean   Elizabeth       Birth   03/03/1866      Crean   Patrick Lenihan Johana   -     

-       Kerry   Tralee, 0709     -      5555    22

Creane  Margaret        Birth   04/01/1865      Creane  Richard Finn    Ellen    -      

-       Kerry   Tralee,0767     -      5560    36

Crean   Ellen   Birth   09/01/1866      Crean   John    McCarthy        Catherine        -     

-       Kerry   Tralee,0787     -      5555    38

Crane   Edward  Marriage        21/02/1870       -       -       -       -      Coghlan Mary    Kings   Birr   

-       5555    4

Crean   Patrick Birth   17/02/1867      Crean   Henry   Kennedy Anne     -     

-       Kings   Shinrone,0681     -      5566    21

Crean   James   Birth   22/04/1865      Crean   Henry   Kennedy Anne     -     

-       Kings   Shinrone,0735     -      5557    13

Cryan   Patrick Birth   06/03/1865      Cryan   Hugh    Carty   Mary     -     

-       Leitrim Drumahaire,0280     -      5566    14

Cryan   Pat     Birth   27/07/1864      Cryan   John    Murray  Mary     -     

-       Leitrim Leitrim, 0069   -       5565    31

Crane   (Baby)  Birth   22/11/1864      Crane   Michael Hartigan        Mary     -     

-       Limerick        Limerick, 0385   -      5551    5

Crean   Eliza   Birth   01/01/1865      Crean   Thomas  Sullivan        Margaret         -     

-       Limerick        Limerick, 0466   -      5555    9

Creane  James   Birth   03/03/1866      Creane  Michael Hartigan        Mary     -     

-       Limerick        Limerick, 0506   -      5557    16

Crane   Anne    Marriage        19/08/1827       -       -       -       -      Lee     John    Limerick        Limerick,

SaintJohn     -      5551    27

Crane   Katherine       Marriage        06/07/1704       -       -       -     

-       Connor  Loughlan        Limerick        Limerick, Saint John     -      5560    12

Crane   Nevil   Marriage        14/09/1828       -       -       -       -      Crimman Mary

Anne    Limerick        Limerick, Saint John     -      5565    13

Crane   Martin  Birth   06/11/1866      Crane   Thomas  Sullivan        Margaret         -     

-       Limerick        Limerick, Saint Munchin, 0413    -      5561    28

Creahan Bidelia Christening     12/06/1857      Creahan Thos.

(Thomas)        Ryan    Harriet  -      -       Limerick        Limerick, St. Michaels   -      5552    14

Cryan   William Birth   26/10/1865      Cryan   John    Sheehan Cath. (Catherine)        -     

-       Limerick        Newcastle District, 0551         -      5569    16

 

Date:          Mon, 23 Nov 1998 18:43:14 -0800    From:          D Walsh <walshdw@ix.netcom.com>Add to Address Book Reply-To:          walshdw@ix.netcom.com      To:          Caoimhghin O Croidheain <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>  Subject:          Re: fab site

Hello,

It might help if I spell it right, Sorry.

http://pw2.netcom.com/~walshdw/

 or    http://pw2.netcom.com/~walshdw/index.html

Dennis

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Caoimhghin O Croidheain wrote:

> > Hi> I clicked on the address you sent me and got a messaage saying that> the site does not exist or is temporarily inaccessible.> any idea why?> sorry for bothering you like this but I feel it important for others> on the cryan-l to see it and some have already posted back saying they> couldent access it.....

> caoimhghin

 

From:        Fatarm@aol.comAdd to Address Book   Date:        Tue, 24 Nov 1998 12:34:12 EST Subject:

        [CRYAN-L] Post #17: LDS listings: Londonderry, Longford & Mayo    To:

        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

 

MORMON BIRTH, CHRISTENING AND MARRIAGE INDEX FOR CRANE AS OF MARCH

1988                                                                                                            

Surname First   Event   Event Date      Father Surname  Father First Name       Mother

Surname Mother First Name       Spouse Surname  Spouse First Name       County  Town,

Parish  Other/Notes     Page No.        Line No.

 

Crane   Hugh    Christening     13/09/1660      Crane   Thomas   -       -       -     

-       Londonderry     Templemore, Derry Cathedral      -      5556    26

Crane   Thomas  Christening     05/05/1676      Crane   Thomas   -       -       -     

-       Londonderry     Templemore, Derry Cathedral      -      5568    2

Crane   Jane    Christening     26/12/1668      Crane   Thomas A.        -       -       -     

-       Londonderry     Templemore, Derry Cathedral      -      5557    24

Crane   William Christening     07/08/1666      Crane   Thomas A.        -       -       -     

-       Londonderry     Templemore, Derry Cathedral      -      5569    10

Cranne  James   Christening     13/09/1672      Cranne  Thomas A.        -       -       -     

-       Londonderry     Templemore, Derry Cathedral      -      5556    32

Crean   Mathew  Christening     17/01/1683      Crean   Nicholas        Crean   Katharine        -     

-       Londonderry     Templemore, Derry Cathedral      -      5564    2

Creane  Elizabeth       Christening     18/10/1685      Creane  Nicholas        Creane  Katherine        -     

-       Londonderry     Templemore, Derry Cathedral      -      5555    13

Creane  Katherine       Christening     17/10/1686      Creane  Nicholas        Creane  Katherine        -     

-       Londonderry     Templemore, Derry Cathedral      -      5560    11

Creane  Nicholas        Marriage        05/02/1682       -       -       -     

-       Barwick Katherine       Londonderry     Templemore, Derry Cathedral      -      5565    14

O'Craine        Jane    Marriage        17/02/1701       -       -       -     

-       Hix     John    Londonderry     Templemore,Derry Cathedral  -      5557    25

O'Crane Thomas  Christening     20/12/1662      O'Crane Thomas   -       -       -     

-       Londonderry     Templemore, Derry Cathedral      -      5568    1

Cryan   Bridget Birth   02/12/1864      Cryan   Michael Dinnen  Mary     -     

-       Longford        Longford, 0233   -      5552    25

Crean   John    Birth   11/04/1864      Crean   Patrick Dooris  Bridget  -     

-       Longford        Longford, 0269   -      5558    37

Crean   Bridget Birth   26/04/1866      Crean   Michael Philbin Bridget  -     

-       Mayo    Balla,0121     -      5552    34

Crean   Biddy   Birth   30/01/1865      Crean   Michael Philbin Biddy    -     

-       Mayo    Balla,0133     -      5552    12

Cryan   Michael Birth   25/09/1866      Cryan   Dominick        Crean   Mary     -     

-       Mayo    Ballaghadereen, 0141     -      5564    29

Creane  Mar (Mary?)     Birth   05/06/1868      Creane  Edward  Quinn   Bridget  -     

-       Mayo    Ballina District, 00005  -      5563    31

Crean   Michael Birth   17/09/1864      Crean   Mark    Crean   Anne     -       -      Mayo    Ballina

District, 0003   -      5564    20

Crean   Anna Kate       Birth   16/04/1864      Crean   John    Kelly   Winifred         -     

-       Mayo    BallinaDistrict, 0004   -      5551    20

Crean   Louisa  Birth   13/10/1864      Crean   Thomas  Arbuckle        Anna     -     

-       Mayo    BallinaDistrict, 0005   -      5560    14

Crean   James   Birth   26/10/1864       -       -      Crean   Bridget  -       -      Mayo    Ballina

District, 0006   -      5557    11

Crean   Mary    Birth   13/08/1864      Crean   Martin  Loftus  Margaret         -     

-       Mayo    BallinaDistrict, 0008   -      5562    40

Crean   James   Birth   12/02/1864      Crean   Thomas  Morgan  Margaret         -     

-       Mayo    BallinaDistrict, 0008   -      5557    6

Crean   Mary    Birth   12/02/1864      Crean   Thomas  Morgan  Margaret         -     

-       Mayo    BallinaDistrict, 0008   -      5562    32

Crean   Mary Agnes      Birth   01/06/1866      Crean   John    Kelly   Winifred         -     

-       Mayo    BallinaDistrict, 0011   -      5563    32

Crean   Bridget Birth   28/01/1866      Crean   Edward  Gilmartin       Mary     -     

-       Mayo    BallinaDistrict, 0012   -      5552    32

Crean   James   Birth   12/09/1864      Crean   John    McLouglin       Margaret         -     

-       Mayo    BallinaDistrict, 0014   -      5557    10

Crean   Catherine       Birth   28/08/1866      Crean   Mark    McGowan Bridget  -     

-       Mayo    BallinaDistrict, 0014   -      5554    2

Crean   Michael Birth   28/08/1866      Crean   Mark    McGowan Bridget  -     

-       Mayo    BallinaDistrict, 0014   -      5564    28

Crean   Catherine       Birth   06/08/1866      Crean   Thomas  Igoe    Mary     -     

-       Mayo    BallinaDistrict, 0015   -      5554    1

Crean   Mary    Birth   11/09/1866      Crean   Martin  Glacken Sarah    -     

-       Mayo    BallinaDistrict, 0016   -      5563    21

Crean   William Birth   14/09/1866      Crean   Anthony Ruane   Mary     -     

-       Mayo    BallinaDistrict, 0017   -      5569    17

Crane   Catherine       Birth   14/12/1864      Crane   John    Creane  Winny    -     

-       Mayo    Binghamstown, 0075       -      5553    33

Crean   Bridget Birth   04/01/1867      Crean   John    McHale  Winfred  -     

-       Mayo    Binghamstown, 0075       -      5552    36

Creane  Margaret        Birth   01/12/1865      Creane  John    McHale  Winfred  -      

-       Mayo    Binghamstown, 0082       -      5560    37

Creane  Michael Birth   19/01/1867      Creane  Patrick Devanny Bridget  -     

-       Mayo    Castlebar, 0131  -      5564    31

Crean   James   Birth   25/08/1866      Crean   William Mealea  Mary     -     

-       Mayo    Claremorris,0191     -      5557    21

Crean   Bridget Birth   17/01/1865      Crean   Peter   Waldron Winifred         -     

-       Mayo    Claremorris, 0198        -      5552    27

Crane   Michael Joseph  Birth   16/11/1886      Crane   Michael J.      Ruane   Mary     -     

-       Mayo    Connaught        -      5565    3

Crane   Bridget Birth   24/08/1868      Crane   John    Hanaghan        Honor    -     

-       Mayo    Foxford,0491     -      5552    38

Cryan   Maria   Birth   27/07/1864      Cryan   Pat     Brennan Bridget  -     

-       Mayo    Lowpark,0486     -      5561    14

Cryan   Margret Birth   09/08/1854      Cryan   Pat     Rush    Mary     -       -      Mayo    Lowpark,

0490    -       5561    7

Cryan   Bridget Birth   16/12/1865      Cryan   Patrick Brennan Bridget  -     

-       Mayo    Lowpark, 0495    -      5552    29

Cryan   Mary    Birth   09/07/1866      Cryan   Patrick Rush    Mary     -       -      Mayo    Lowpark,

0496    -       5563    18

Cryan   Sarah   Birth   11/07/1868      Cryan   John    Frain   Elizabeth        -     

-       Mayo    Lowpark,0531     -      5567    38

Cryan   Catherine       Birth   28/07/1868      Cryan   Patrick Rush    Mary     -     

-       Mayo    Lowpark,0531     -      5554    5

Cryan   Mary    Birth   27/01/1865      Cryan   John    Frain   Elizabeth        -     

-       Mayo    Lowpark,0544     -      5563    3

 

From:        Fatarm@aol.comAdd to Address Book   Date:        Tue, 24 Nov 1998 12:35:28 EST Subject:

        [CRYAN-L] Post #18: LDS listing: Meath, Monaghan, and Queens    To:

        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

 

MORMON BIRTH, CHRISTENING AND MARRIAGE INDEX FOR CRANE AS OF MARCH

1988                                                                                                           

Surname First   Event   Event Date      Father Surname  Father First Name       Mother

Surname Mother First Name       Spouse Surname  Spouse First Name       County  Town,

Parish  Other/Notes     Page No.        Line No.

 

Cryan   Mary    Birth   07/06/1867      Cryan   Kit     Heany   Margret  -       -      Meath   Navan,

0871    -       5563    26

Cryan   Philip  Birth   11/08/1867      Cryan   Patt    Hart    Ellen    -       -      Meath   Navan,

0873    -       5567    15

Crean   Laurence        Birth   09/11/1866      Crean   Paul    Muldoon Maria    -     

-       Meath   Oldcastle, 0339  -      5560    13

Crean   John    Birth   28/07/1864      Crean   Paul    Muldoon Maria    -     

-       Meath   Oldcastle,0345     -      5559    1

Crane   (Baby)  Birth   15/01/1864      Crane   Samuel  Geary   Margaret         -     

-       Monaghan        Castleblayne     -      5551    2

Crane   Mary    Birth   27/09/1866      Crane   James   Hadden  Margaret         -     

-       Monaghan        Castleblayney, 0408      -      5563    22

Crane   Thomas  Birth   08/12/1865      Crane   Samuel  Geary   Margaret         -     

-       Monaghan        Castleblayney, 0429      -      5568    20

Crane   Robert  Marriage        25/11/1845       -       -       -     

-       McKee   Agnes   Monaghan        Mucknoe,0301     -      5567    20

Crean   Mary    Birth   30/04/1865      Crean   John    Power   Eliza    -     

-       Queens  MountrathDistrict, 0666   -      5563    6

 

 

From:        Fatarm@aol.comAdd to Address Book   Date:        Tue, 24 Nov 1998 12:37:28 EST

 Subject:        [CRYAN-L] Post #19: LDS listing: all Co. Roscommon    To:

        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

 

MORMON BIRTH, CHRISTENING AND MARRIAGE INDEX FOR CRANE AS OF MARCH

1988                                                                                                            

Surname First   Event   Event Date      Father Surname  Father First Name       Mother

Surname Mother First Name       Spouse Surname  Spouse First Name       County  Town,

Parish  Other/Notes     Page No.        Line No.

 

Cryne   Mary Ann        Birth   24/12/1850       -       -       -       -       -       -      Roscommon        -     

-       5563    35

Cryne   Mary Ann        Marriage        11/03/1867       -       -       -     

-       McElroy Samuel  Roscommon        -      -       5563    36

Crane   Patrick Birth   18/12/1864       -       -      Crane   Catherine        -     

-       Roscommon       Athleague, 0351  -      5566    11

Crane   Victoria Elizabeth      Birth   12/01/1865      Crane   John

Richard Holton  Victoria Anne     -       -      Roscommon       Athlone, 0007    -      5569    8

Cryan   Catherine       Birth   10/06/1868      Cryan   Peter   Carney  Catherine        -     

-       Roscommon       Aughrim, 0061    -      5554    4

Crine   Onny    Birth   10/07/1865      Crine   John    Carney  Onny     -     

-       Roscommon       Aughrim,0063     -      5565    27

Crine   Luke    Birth   10/01/1866      Crine   Peter   Carney  Catherine        -     

-       Roscommon       Aughrim, 0072    -      5560    15

Crann   Martinum        Marriage        27/02/1865       -       -       -     

-       McDermott       Margaritam      Roscommon       Ballinameen     Roman Catholic  5561    30

Crann   Patritium       Marriage        08/02/1877       -       -       -     

-       McDermott       Mariam  Roscommon       Ballinameen     Roman Catholic  5566    26

Cryan   Honoram Marriage        20/02/1870       -       -       -       -      Drury   Joannem

(John)  Roscommon       Ballinameen     Roman Catholic  5556    25

Cryan   Margaritam      Marriage        27/02/1865       -       -       -     

-       O'Gara  Patritium       Roscommon       Ballinameen     Roman Catholic  5561    6

Cryan   Patritium       Marriage        25/02/1875       -       -       -     

-       Cuttle  Elizabetham     Roscommon       Ballinameen     Roman Catholic  5566    25

Cryan   Saram (Sarah?)  Marriage        27/11/1862       -       -       -     

-       Ruan    Patritium       Roscommon       Ballinameen     Roman Catholic  5567    40

Crann   Mary    Birth   10/10/1864      Crann   Patt    Clasby  Mary     -     

-       Roscommon       Ballinameen, 0078        -      5563    1

Crine   Joseph  Birth   09/02/1864      Crine   John    Dolan   Margaret         -     

-       Roscommon       Ballinameen, 0081        -      5559    26

Cryan   James   Birth   29/05/1866      Cryan   John    Dolan   Margaret         -     

-       Roscommon       Ballinameen, 0085        -      5557    19

Cran    John    Birth   17/07/1868      Cran    Patt    Claby   Mary     -     

-       Roscommon       Ballinameen,0090     -      5559    18

Cryan   Anne    Birth   27/06/1866      Cryan   Patt    McDermott       Catherine        -     

-       Roscommon       Ballinameen, 0090        -      5551    34

Cryan   Catherine       Birth   14/08/1868      Cryan   John    Dolan   Margaret         -     

-       Roscommon       Ballinameen, 0093        -      5554    6

Cryan   Philip  Birth   05/05/1866      Cryan   James   Cullin  Bridget  -     

-       Roscommon       Ballyfarnan, 0091        -      5567    14

Cryan   Edward  Birth   14/07/1864      Cryan   Mathew  McDonagh        Catherine        -     

-       Roscommon       Boyle with Ballinafad, 0087      -      5555    2

Cryan   James   Birth   28/05/1864      Cryan   Patrick Cryan   Bridget  -     

-       Roscommon       Boylewith Ballinafad, 0089    -      5557    8

Cryan   Anne    Birth   08/07/1866      Cryan   Patt    Cryan   Bridget  -     

-       Roscommon       Boylewith Ballinafad, 0096    -      5551    35

Cryan   John    Birth   17/08/1865      Cryan   James   Bierne  Honor    -     

-       Roscommon       Boylewith Ballinafad, 0098    -      5559    7

Cryan   John    Birth   30/8/1866       Cryan   James   Beirne  Honor    -     

-       Roscommon       Boyle withBallinafad, 0098         -      5559    12

Cryan   Michael Birth   12/09/1868      Cryan   Patrick Walsh   Mary     -     

-       Roscommon       Boylewith Ballinafad, 0109    -      5564    34

Cryan   Jane    Birth   12/02/1866      Cryan   James   Connor  Atty     -     

-       Roscommon       Boyle withBallinafad, 0119         -      5557    29

Cryan   (Baby)  Birth   0710/1864       Cryan   James   O'Connor        Atty     -     

-       Roscommon       Boylewith Callinafad, 0088    -      5551    4

Cryan   Patrick Birth   05/06/1866      Cryan   James   Toohy   Mary     -     

-       Roscommon       Boylewith Gallinafad, 0106    -      5566    19

Cran    Catherine       Birth   07/01/1864      Cran    Patt    Byrne   Ellen    -     

-       Roscommon       Boyle,0091     -      5553    31

Cryan   Bridget Birth   09/08/1866      Cryan   Michael Brennan Ellen    -     

-       Roscommon       Boyle, 0092      -      5552    35

Cryan   Bridget Birth   31/01/1865      Cryan   Peter   Foley   Maria    -     

-       Roscommon       Boyle,0095     -      5552    28

Cryan   Sarah   Birth   24/01/1865      Cryan   Michael Dwyer   Catherine        -     

-       Roscommon       Boyle, 0099      -      5567    35

Cryan   James   Birth   05/03/1865      Cryan   Pat     Kevill  Margt. (Margaret)        -     

-       Roscommon       Boyle, 0100      -      5557    12

Cryan   Patrick Birth   02/11/1865      Cryan   Patrick Ward    Nancy    -     

-       Roscommon       Boyle,0102     -      5566    17

Cryan   Andrew  Birth   28/10/1865      Cryan   Thomas  Cryan   Mary     -     

-       Roscommon       Boyle,0102     -      5551    15

Cran    Anne    Birth   22/02/1866      Cran    Richard Foley   Anne     -     

-       Roscommon       Boyle,0111     -      5551    31

Crine   Michael Christening     03/05/1874      Crine   Patritius       McDonough       Catherina        -     

-       Roscommon       Breedogue and Ballinameen       Roman Catholic  5565    1

Cryan   Thomas  Christening     07/10/1860      Cryan   Patricii        McDonagh        Catherinae     

-       -       Roscommon       Breedogue and Ballinameen       Roman Catholic  5568    11

Cryan   Bernardus       Christening     16/12/1876      Cryan   Patricio        McDonough       Catherina        -     

-       Roscommon       Breedogue and Ballinameen       Roman Catholic  5552    3

Cryan   Michael Christening     25/10/1877      Cryan   Patricio        Cuttle  Elizabetha     

-       -       Roscommon       Breedogue and Ballinameen       Roman Catholic  5565    2

Cryan   Anna    Christening     08/07/1866      Cryan   Patritii        McDonough       Catherinae     

-       -       Roscommon       Breedogue and Ballinameen       Roman Catholic  5551    19

Cryan   Joannes Christening     24/08/1863      Cryan   Patritii        McDonough       Catherinae       -     

-       Roscommon       Breedogue and Ballinameen       Roman Catholic  5557    34

Cryan   Patritius       Christening     07/03/1869      Cryan   Patritii        McDonough       Catherinae       -     

-       Roscommon       Breedogue and Ballinameen       Roman Catholic  5566    27

Cryan   Elleonora       Christening     02/07/1876      Cryan   Patritius       Cuttle  Elleonora        -     

-       Roscommon       Breedogue and Ballinameen       Roman Catholic  5556    3

Cryan   Patrick Birth   23/12/1864      Cryan   Thomas  Duignan Anne     -     

-       Roscommon       Castleplunket, 0141      -      5566    12

Cryan   Thomas  Birth   04/12/1864      Cryan   John    McNamara        Mary     -     

-       Roscommon       Castleplunket, 0142      -      5568    14

Cryan   James   Birth   11/01/1864      Cryan   James   Coll    Bridget  -     

-       Roscommon       Castleplunket, 0147      -      5557    5

Cryan   Thomas  Birth   22/05/1866      Cryan   Thomas  Dignan  Anne     -     

-       Roscommon       Castleplunket, 0148      -      5568    21

Cryan   Elizabeth       Birth   21/02/1867      Cryan   John    McNamara        Mary     -     

-       Roscommon       Castleplunket, 0153      -      5555    23

Cryan   Thomas  Birth   12/09/1864      Cryan   Michael Kearns  Biddy    -     

-       Roscommon       Castleplunket, 0161      -      5568    13

Cryan   James   Birth   15/03/1866      Cryan   Michael Kerns   Bridget  -     

-       Roscommon       Castleplunket, 0169      -      5557    17

Cryan   Anne    Birth   22/05/1866      Cryan   Thomas  Dignan  Anne     -     

-       Roscommon       Castleplunkett, 0148     -      5551    32

Craine  Anne    Birth   02/03/1864      Crain   Stephen Frain (Crain?)  Bridget  -     

-       Roscommon       Castlereagh, 0146        -      5551    28

Crane   Mary    Birth   13/07/1865      Crane   John    McCormack       Mary     -     

-       Roscommon       Castlereagh, 0153        -      5563    9

Crane   Mary    Birth   08/09/1865      Crane   Michael Branon  Bridget  -     

-       Roscommon       Castlereagh, 0159        -      5563    12

Crane   Winifred        Birth   03/09/1865      Crane   Stephen Frain   Bridget  -     

-       Roscommon       Castlereagh, 0162        -      5569    25

Craon   Catherine       Birth   14/03/1865      Craon   Edward  McCormack       Bridget  -     

-       Roscommon       Castlereagh, 0168        -      5553    37

Cryan   Murty (Marty orMorty?) Birth   27/07/1865      Cryan   Bernard Higgins Clare    -     

-       Roscommon       Elphin, 0380     -      5565    12

Cryan   Mary    Birth   11/08/1864      Cryan   Domck. (Dominick)       Creyon  Mary     -     

-       Roscommon       Frenchpark, 0143         -      5562    39

Crean   Patrick Birth   22/06/1868      Crean   Thomas  Burns   Bridget  -     

-       Roscommon       Frenchpark, 0180         -      5566    23

Crean   Mary    Birth   14/03/1866      Crean   Thomas  Burns   Bridget  -     

-       Roscommon       Frenchpark, 0189         -      5563    16

Crianne Mary    Birth   01/02/1865      Crianne James   Flynn   Bridget  -     

-       Roscommon       Keadew, 0112     -      5563    5

Cryan   Annam   Christening     09/10/1841      Cryan   Marci   Keigan  Mariae   -     

-       Roscommon       Kilbride Parish Roman Catholic  5551    23

Cryan   Jacobum Christening     07/12/1840      Cryan   Marci_  Keigan  Mariae   -     

-       Roscommon       Kilbride Parish Roman Catholic  5556    31

Cryan   Johannam        Christening     04/04/1847      Cryan   Marci_  Keegan  Mariae   -     

-       Roscommon       Kilbride Parish Roman Catholic  5557    36

Cryan   John    Birth   27/10/1866      Cryan   John    Murray  Mary     -     

-       Roscommon       LeitrimDistrict, 0080   -      5559    13

Crane   Mary    Birth   c. 1800 Daly    Dennis   -       -       -     

-       Roscommon       Roscommon       Mentions

spouse - maybe should be a marriage event       5561    36

Creane  Mary    Marriage        26/01/1867       -       -       -     

-       Coghlan James   Roscommon       Roscommon       -       5563    25

Crane   Anne    Birth   10/08/1866      Crane   John    Kelly   Bridget  -     

-       Roscommon       Roscommon, 0365  -      5551    36

Cryans  John    Birth   20/06/1868      Cryans  Michael Brady   Mary     -     

-       Roscommon       Strokestown, 0375        -      5559    17

Cryan   Thomas  Birth   08/12/1869      Cryan   Michael Brady   Mary     -     

-       Roscommon       Strokestown, 0381        -      5568    24

Cryans  Martin  Birth   01/11/1864      Cryans  Martin  Smith   Mary     -     

-       Roscommon       Strokestown, 0381        -      5561    25

Cryan   Catherine       Birth   19/02/1865      Cryan   John    Durr    Sarah    -     

-       Roscommon       Strokestown, 0411        -      5553    36

 

 

From:        Fatarm@aol.comAdd to Address Book   Date:        Tue, 24 Nov 1998 12:38:58 EST

 Subject:        [CRYAN-L] Post #20: LDS listings: All Co. Sligo    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

 

MORMON BIRTH, CHRISTENING AND MARRIAGE INDEX FOR CRANE AS OF MARCH

1988                                                                                                            

Surname First   Event   Event Date      Father Surname  Father First Name       Mother

Surname Mother First Name       Spouse Surname  Spouse First Name       County  Town,

Parish  Other/Notes     Page No.        Line No.

 

Cryen   Catherine       Birth   06/02/1838      Cryen   James   McCormic        Catherine        -     

-       Sligo    -         -      5553    27

Cryan   Mary    Birth   02/03/1864      Cryan   Patrick Burke   Catharine        -     

-       Sligo   Ballymote, 0280  -      5562    34

Cryan   Michael Birth   16/07/1867      Cryan   Patrick Connolly        Catherine        -     

-       Sligo   Ballymote, 0293  -      5564    33

Cryan   John    Birth   02/08/1867      Cryan   Thomas  Mitchell        Catherine        -     

-       Sligo   Ballymote, 0293  -      5559    16

Cryan   Mary    Birth   21/08/1867      Cryan   John    O'Gara  Mary     -     

-       Sligo   Ballymote,0296     -      5563    30

Cran    Patrick Birth   26/09/1867      Cran    Peter   Mullowney       Margaret         -     

-       Sligo   Ballymote, 0298  -      5566    22

Crean   Mary    Birth   24/05/1865      Crean   Andrew  Mullonny        Mary     -     

-       Sligo   Ballymote,0308     -      5563    7

Cryan   Anne    Birth   02/09/1865      Cryan   Patrick Burke   Catherine        -     

-       Sligo   Ballymote, 0310  -      5551    29

Cryan   Michael Birth   16/02/1867      Cryan   Patrick Burke   Catherine        -     

-       Sligo   Ballymote, 0331  -      5564    32

Cryan   John    Birth   13/04/1865      Cryan   Patrick Connally        Catherine        -     

-       Sligo   Ballymote, 0333  -      5559    5

Cryan   Beesy   Birth   28/05/1865      Cryan   Patrick McHugh  Mary     -     

-       Sligo   Ballymote,0337     -      5552    2

Cryan   Michael Birth   24/03/1866      Cryan   John    O'Gara  Mary     -     

-       Sligo   Ballymote,0355     -      5564    26

Cryan   Patrick Birth   10/01/1865      Cryan   Patrick Langan  Mary     -     

-       Sligo   Ballymote, 0372  -      5566    13

Crean   Catharina       Marriage        17/04/1870       -       -       -     

-       Gillen  Joannes Sligo   Calry   Roman Catholic  5553    14

Cryan   Margarita       Christening     01/11/1858      Cryan   Patritii        McGuinn Cathae.

(Catherine)      -       -      Sligo   Calry   Roman Catholic  5561    5

Cryan   Maria   Christening     04/09/1860      Cryan   Petrus  Hart    Margarita        -     

-       Sligo   Calry   Roman Catholic  5561    13

Cryan   Thomas  Christening     25/12/1860      Cryan   Thomae  Sweeny  Mariae   -     

-       Sligo   Calry   Roman Catholic  5568    12

Cryan   Brigida Marriage        03/06/1859       -       -       -     

-       Dignan  Bartholemeus    Sligo   Calry   Roman Catholic  5553    6

Cryan   Brigida Marriage        18/01/1872       -       -       -     

-       Meehan  Eugenius        Sligo   Calry   Roman Catholic  5553    7

Cryan   Elizabetha      Marriage        31/05/1866       -       -       -     

-       McGloin Edvardus        Sligo   Calry   Roman Catholic  5555    25

Cryan   Patritius       Marriage        15/11/1873       -       -       -     

-       Coen    Elizabetha      Sligo   Calry   Roman Catholic  5566    28

Creane  Margt. (Margaret)       Birth   09/03/1864      Creane  Martin  Kevany  Honor    -     

-       Sligo   Castleconor, 0198        -      5561    9

Creane  Anne    Birth   15/11/1865      Creane  Edward  Cullen  Bridget  -     

-       Sligo   Castleconor, 0227        -      5551    30

Cryan   Maria   Birth   13/10/1865      Cryan   John    Cryan   Bridget  -     

-       Sligo   Coolaney,0514     -      5561    16

Cryan   Biddy   Birth   11/01/1866      Cryan   Michael McGuire Bridget  -     

-       Sligo   Coolaney, 0595   -      5552    13

Creheen Catherina       Christening     12/04/1863      Creheen Michael Toher   Maria    -     

-       Sligo   Drumcliff and Magherow  Roman Catholic  5553    19

Creheen Maria   Christening     17/04/1853      Creheen Michael Togher  Maria    -      

-       Sligo   Drumcliff and Magherow  Roman Catholic  5561    12

Creheen Michael Christening     24/06/1855      Creheen Michael Togher  Maria    -     

-       Sligo   Drumcliff and Magherow  Roman Catholic  5564    19

Creheen Patricius       Christening     29/06/1851      Creheen Michael  -ogher

(Togher?blurred)        Maria    -       -      Sligo   Drumcliff and Magherow  Roman Catholic  5565    35

Creheen Dametrio        Christening     23/06/1872      Creheen Michaele        Toher   Maria    -     

-       Sligo   Drumcliff and Magherow  Roman Catholic  5554    23

Creheen Sara    Christening     13/06/1869      Creheen Michaele        Toher   Maria    -     

-       Sligo   Drumcliff and Magherow  Roman Catholic  5567    29

Creheen Thomas  Christening     15/04/1865      Creheen Michaeli        Toher   Maria    -     

-       Sligo   Drumcliff and Magherow  Roman Catholic  5568    18

Creheen Brigida Christening     13/02/1845      Creheen Thomas  Gillan  Elizabetha       -     

-       Sligo   Drumcliff and Magherow  Roman Catholic  5553    5

Creheen Eleanora        Christening     04/08/1850      Creheen Thomas  Gillan  Elizabetha       -     

-       Sligo   Drumcliff and Magherow  Roman Catholic  5555    7

Creheen Maria   Marriage        04/03/1867       -       -       -     

-       Herety  Joannes Sligo   Drumcliffand Magherow    Roman Catholic  5561    17

Cryne   Anna    Christening     08/07/1845      Cryne   Michael Cryne   Maria    -     

-       Sligo   Drumcliff and Magherow  Roman Catholic  5551    18

Cryan   Martin  Birth   28/02/1864      Cryan   Michl. (Michael)        Ward    Catherine        -     

-       Sligo   Gurteen District, 0074   -      5561    24

Cryan   Winifred        Birth   25/06/1864      Cryan   Patrick Regan   Winifred         -     

-       Sligo   Gurteen District, 0097   -      5569    24

Cryan   Thomas  Birth   17/08/1866      Cryan   Patrick Murray  Hanoria  -     

-       Sligo   GurteenDistrict, 0103   -      5568    22

Cryan   Mary    Birth   04/06/1864      Cryan   John    McDermot        Winifred         -     

-       Sligo   GurteenDistrict, 0106   -      5562    37

Cryan   Owen    Birth   08/01/1866      Cryan   John    Hannon  Margaret         -     

-       Sligo   GurteenDistrict, 0122   -      5565    29

Cryan   Bridget Birth   20/01/1866      Cryan   Michael Ward    Catherine        -     

-       Sligo   Gurteen District, 0122   -      5552    31

Cryan   Bessy   Birth   02/02/1866      Cryan   Thady   Leaden  Biddy    -     

-       Sligo   GurteenDistrict, 0126   -      5552    4

Cryan   Sarah   Birth   24/03/1866      Cryan   Domnick Cawley  Catherine        -     

-       Sligo   Gurteen District, 0128   -      5567    37

Cryan   Thomas  Birth   15/01/1867      Cryan   James   McDonagh        Mary     -     

-       Sligo   Gurteen,0105     -      5568    23

Crane   Ellen   Birth   12/03/1865      Crane   Thomas  Hannan  Mary     -     

-       Sligo   Gurteen,0107     -      5555    35

Cryan   Peter   Marriage        03/05/1846       -       -       -     

-       Mulligan        Mary    Sligo   Killoran,0167     -      5567    8

Cryan   Patrick Birth   13/02/1864      Cryan   Michael Cawly   Beesy    -     

-       Sligo   Riverstown District, 0288        -      5566    7

Cryan   Mary    Birth   26/07/1867      Cryan   Martin  Denheen Bridget  -     

-       Sligo   Riverstown District, 0316        -      5563    27

Cryan   Catharine       Birth   06/12/1865      Cryan   Martin  Denhan  Bridgit  -     

-       Sligo   Riverstown District, 0318        -      5553    16

Cryan   Mary    Birth   19/07/1866      Cryan   Michael Cawly   Beesy    -     

-       Sligo   RiverstownDistrict, 0318   -      5563    19

Cran    Mary    Birth   16/05/1866      Cran    Patrick Gallagher       Margaret         -     

-       Sligo   Riverstown District, 0341        -      5563    17

Cran    John    Birth   06/04/1865      Cran    Patrick Gallagher       Margaret         -      

-       Sligo   Riverstown District, 0355        -      5559    4

Cryan   Patrick Birth   29/04/1865      Cryan   James   Cullen  Bridgit  -     

-       Sligo   Riverstown District, 0356        -      5566    15

Cran    Elizabeth       Birth   15/02/1866      Cran    Thomas  Wyms    Ellen    -     

-       Sligo   RiverstownDistrict, 0377   -      5555    21

Cryan   Thomas  Birth   12/04/1865      Cryan   Michael Togher  Mary     -     

-       Sligo   Sligo,0361     -      5568    17

Cryan   Charles Birth   08/01/1867      Cryan   Thomas  Sweeny  Mary     -     

-       Sligo   Sligo,0366     -      5554    11

Cryan   Mary    Birth   17/10/1865      Cryan   James   Callaghan       Catherine        -     

-       Sligo   Tobercurry, 0524         -      5563    13

Cryan   Michael Birth   18/01/1867      Cryan   Michael McDonagh        Catherine        -     

-       Sligo   Tobercurry, 0602         -      5564    30

Cryan   Michael Marriage        24/02/1851       -       -       -     

-       Gallagher       Judith  Sligo   Toomour -       5564    17

Cryon   James   Marriage        07/02/1855       -       -       -     

-       Gallagher       Catherine       Sligo   Toomour -       5557    3

 

From:        Fatarm@aol.comAdd to Address Book   Date:        Tue, 24 Nov 1998 12:40:27 EST Subject:

        [CRYAN-L] Post #21: LDS listings: Tipperary, Tyrone and Waterford    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

 

MORMON BIRTH, CHRISTENING AND MARRIAGE INDEX FOR CRANE AS OF MARCH

1988                                                                                                           

Surname First   Event   Event Date      Father Surname  Father First Name       Mother

Surname Mother First Name       Spouse Surname  Spouse First Name       County  Town,

Parish  Other/Notes     Page No.        Line No.

 

Crean   Mary    Birth   02/03/1864      Crean   Thomas  Morris  Bridget  -     

-       Tipperary       Fethard, 0457    -      5562    35

Crean   Susan   Birth   27/10/1866      Crean   Thomas  Cummins Johanna  -     

-       Tipperary       Fethard, 0466    -      5567    41

Crean   Maria   Birth   28/11/1869      Crean   John    Hackett Eliza    -     

-       Tipperary       Fethard,0474     -      5561    18

Crean   Catherine       Birth   11/10/1864      Crean   Thomas  Sullivan        Catherine        -     

-       Tipperary       Fethard, 0478    -      5553    32

Crean   John    Birth   19/02/1867      Crean   Thomas  Sullivan        Catherine        -     

-       Tipperary       Fethard, 0518    -      5559    14

Crean   Ellen   Birth   25/07/1865      Crean    -      Kennedy Johana   -     

-       Tipperary       Garrangibbon, 0615       -      5555    36

Crean   John    Birth   15/05/1865      Crean   Michael Heaney (blurred)        Catherine        -     

-       Tipperary       Killenaule, 0566         -      5559    6

Crean   Catherine Clare Birth   14/10/1866      Crean   Richard Hackett Catherine       

-       -       Tipperary       Marlfield, 0749  -      5554    8

Crane   Rebecca Birth   31/08/1865      Crane   Thomas  Graham  Rebecca  -     

-       Tyrone  Dromore District, 0277          5567    16

Crane   Oliver  Birth   23/07/1868      Crane   Thomas  Graham  Rebecca  -     

-       Tyrone  DromoreDistrict, 0445          5565    26

Crane   Isaac   Birth   18/02/1864      Crane   Joseph  Crane   Margaret         -     

-       Tyrone  Irvinestown, 0126        -      5556    29

Creane  Margaret        Birth   08/09/1866      Creane  Joseph  Creane  Margaret         -     

-       Tyrone  Irvinestown, 0170        -      5561    1

Creane  Margaret        Birth   14/02/1866      Creane  Robert  McMullan        Mary Ann         -     

-       Tyrone  Irvinestown, 0197        -      5560    38

Craen   Elizabeth       Marriage        09/06/1868       -       -       -     

-       Armstrong       Henry   Tyrone  Kilskeery        -      5555    24

Crane   Mary Ann        Marriage        26/01/1846       -       -       -     

-       Bell    William Tyrone  Kilskeery,0753     -      5563    34

Crean   Hannah  Marriage        29/11/1835       -       -       -       -      Guthrie Jesse   Waterford        -

        -       5556    14

Crane   William Marriage        19/01/1796       -       -       -     

-       Innott  Elizabeth       Waterford       KillSt. Nicholas     -      5569    12

Crane   Martha  Marriage        28/12/1812       -       -       -     

-       McGill  Robert  Waterford       Kill, St.Nicholas         -      5561    21

Crean   Mary    Birth   22/11/1865      Crean   Michael Healy   Ellen    -     

-       Waterford       St.Mary's District, 0655    -      5563    14

 

 

From:        Fatarm@aol.comAdd to Address Book   Date:        Tue, 24 Nov 1998 12:41:57 EST

 Subject:        [CRYAN-L] Last and Post #22: LDS listings: Wexford and Wicklow

    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

 

MORMON BIRTH, CHRISTENING AND MARRIAGE INDEX FOR CRANE AS OF MARCH

1988                                                                                                            

Surname First   Event   Event Date      Father Surname  Father First Name       Mother

Surname Mother First Name       Spouse Surname  Spouse First Name       County  Town,

Parish  Other/Notes     Page No.        Line No.

 

Crane   Peter Paul      Birth   09/07/1868      Crane   James   Murphy  Ellen    -     

-       Wexford Bannow, 0935     -      5567    12

Crane   Edward  Birth   26/08/1868      Crane   Martin  Carroll Alice    -     

-       Wexford Bannow,0937     -      5555    3

Crane   Patrick Birth   13/04/1864      Crane   Martin  Carroll Alice    -     

-       Wexford Bannow, 0995     -      5566    9

Crane   Philip  Birth   06/03/1866      Crane   Martin  Carroll Alice    -     

-       Wexford Bannow,1046     -      5567    13

Crean   James   Birth   10/04/1864      Crean   Philip  Murphy  Elleanor         -     

-       Wexford Carrickbyrne, 0891       -      5557    7

Crane   Mary    Birth   05/06/1864      Crane   Peter   Kavanagh        Catherin         -     

-       Wexford Crossabeg, 1005  -      5562    38

Crane   Thomas  Birth   19/12/1864      Crane   Michael Murphy  Catherine        -      

-       Wexford Enniscorthy, 0711        -      5568    15

Crane   Walter  Birth   31/01/1865      Crane   Walter  Clear   Mary     -     

-       Wexford Enniscorthy, 0759        -      5569    9

Creane  Mary    Birth   07/01/1867      Creane  Phillip Hyland  Catherine        -     

-       Wexford Gorey, 0868      -      5563    24

Crane   Nicholas        Birth   13/04/1865      Crane   Philip  Hyland  Catherine        -     

-       Wexford Gorey, 0893      -      5565    21

Crean   Catherine       Birth   14/02/1865      Crean   William Doran   Catherine        -     

-       Wexford Gorey, 0971      -      5553    35

Crane   Henry   Marriage        19/01/1728       -       -       -       -      Byrne   Jane    Wexford Inch by

Gorey   -       5556    16

Crean   Patrick Birth   15/08/1866      Crean   James   White   Catherine        -     

-       Wexford Taghmon, 0912    -      5566    20

Crean   Ellen   Birth   11/10/1865      Crean   Michael Kavanagh        Anne     -     

-       Wexford Wexford, 0903    -      5555    37

Crean   Michael Birth   10/09/1865      Crean   Philip  Blake   Margaret         -     

-       Wexford Wexford, 0929    -      5564    23

Crean   Catherne        Birth   22/08/1868      Crean   Michael Kavanagh        Anne     -     

-       Wexford Wexford, 0959    -      5554    9

Crean   Mary    Birth   10/05/1864      Crean   Michael Kavanagh        Anne     -     

-       Wexford Wexford,0979     -      5562    36

Crean   John    Birth   26/06/1864      Crean   Philip  Blake   Margaret         -     

-       Wexford Wexford,0984     -      5558    40

Crean   Joseph  Birth   05/03/1865      Crean   Arden   Redmond Mary     -     

-       Wexford Wexford,1073     -      5559    28

Crean   William Birth   03/01/1865      Crean   Moses   Redmond Mary     -     

-       Wexford Wexford,1759     -      5569    15

Crane   Charles Birth   09/10/1865      Crane   Charles Sherwood        Jane     -     

-       Wicklow Arklow, 0910     -      5554    10

Crane   Jane    Birth   09/10/1865      Crane   Charles Sherwood        Jane     -     

-       Wicklow Arklow,0910     -      5557    27

Crane   Eliza   Birth   06/09/1867      Crane   William Kenny   Anestasia        -      

-       Wicklow Arklow, 0930     -      5555    10

Crane   Peter   Birth   24/09/1865      Crane   William Kenny   Anathesia        -     

-       Wicklow Arklow, 0950     -      5567    10

Crane   Elizabeth       Birth   03/04/1865      Crane   William Allen   Anne     -     

-       Wicklow Blessington, 0927        -      5555    20

 

 

From:        Fatarm@aol.comAdd to Address Book   Date:        Tue, 24 Nov 1998 12:47:38 EST

 Subject:        [CRYAN-L] That's it for the LDS listings    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

I've now posted all 700+ names with their info.  I'd be interested in

hearingothers' impressions as they look at them -- whether you find something,

orlike me, found nothing.I'd also be interested in hearing from anyone who has looked at the

microfilmsthemselves, especially if you have done so since March 1988 -- are

there moresince that date? Has anyone looked at the Creaghans?  The MacCroghan or

Croghans?  Has anyone talked to the LDS researchers/assistants to findout

more about their methodology for collection?  I know Eve's been tothem, but

until she's back, maybe someone else on the list can share theirexperiences

-- can you offer advice or insight?Please also welcome researcher #43 (remember, we lost two).  For thoseof younewbies who haven't yet posted, now's the time to let us all know of

yourresearch interest.Thanks again for tolerating these postings.  If you need one re-sent,

pleaseemail me privately.  Leslie

 

Date        Tue, 24 Nov 1998 18:18:17 -0600 (CST)  From:        Kathleen A Craine <K-Craine@neiu.edu>Add to Address Book Subject:        [CRYAN-L] CRAINE from the Isle of Man

    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

I've had several inquiries from researchers looking for links to theirCRAINE ancestors from the Isle of Man.  Is our interest on this listlimited to origins in Ireland?  Does anyone know the origins of the name

there?  I'm wondering if this list would be helpful to them.Kathleen CraineChicago, IL

 

From:        Fatarm@aol.comAdd to Address Book   Date:        Wed, 25 Nov 1998 09:49:40 EST

 Subject:        [CRYAN-L] URL correction, connection, and list intent    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Michael, "netcom" should be "netcom.com" and "walsdhdw" should be"walshdw".It is a site worth checking out -- it's interesting to see how thefamilyposted their data, what types of sites they linked to, and how simpletheorganization is.  Contrast/compare it to Dennis Murphy'shttp://murphy.genealogy.org.  Of course we've all seen many surname

postings,but both these postings try and bring a large section of a family group

online/information searchable.Congrats to Carole and Crystal!  Let us know how the connecting goes ...

Kathleen, I'm not certain we would be of much help to Craines from theIsle of

Man -- at some level I want to maintain this mailing list for the Irishsurnames derived from O'Crean, Creaghan, and MacCroghan because of theoverlaps.  What do others think?  On the other hand, because of theanglicization of names, emigrations, etc. I see no harm in anyone with a

possible link joining in on the conversation.  There is a Crain mailinglistthrough rootsweb, too [mail "Craine-L-request@rootsweb.com" with"subscribe"as the sole message to start receiving] -- it's not extremely active,but ifyour friends/penpals haven't found it, that's probably a better place

to start(there may even be an Isle of Man list).  If I'm not mistaken, everyone

onthis list to date believes or has proven that their family's originsare Irish-- again, what do others think?  What do others want?And, please, thank Caoimhghin/Kevin for providing the LDS list -- is

this oneof the lists you got from Mr./Mrs. Creaser, Kevin?  Just goes to showhow much

info is out there being shared ... Leslie

 P.S.  Have to run -- my live-in artist just drew a mural of an octopuson oneof my living room walls.  I guess, when you're three, when one's musecallsyou must respond immediately.  That's okay -- I haven't put the paintcan awaysince he used a painted broom handle to rub/draw a picture on my dining

roomwall.  Happy Thanksgiving to the N. Americans!

 

  From:        Fatarm@aol.comAdd to Address Book   Date:        Wed, 25 Nov 1998 10:37:17 EST

 Subject:        [CRYAN-L] Walsh site URL re-post    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Sorry - half a brain today.  Isn't it a great thought to think of medriving350 miles with only half my brain working???  I'm sure the spousal unitwillhave lots to say about that --

Here's the URL for the Walsh site again

http://pw2.netcom.com/~walshdw/

From:        Voltene@aol.comAdd to Address Book   Date:        Wed, 25 Nov 1998 19:49:50 EST

 Subject:        [CRYAN-L] CRYANs in Lowell, MA    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Hi everyone,            If anyone has any CRYANs  buried in Lowell, MA cemeteries

between1880 to the  present ,  and would like me to look-up an obituary,  give

 mename and date.             I go to the Lowell library every Monday and Thursday night.

Doing my own CRYANs,  I have accumulated a large number in my own file.

Karen Murphy

 

Date:        Wed, 25 Nov 1998 20:35:54 -0500 (EST)  From:        simone samuel <amethyst@inch.com>Add to Address Book Subject:        Re: [CRYAN-L] CRYANs in Lowell, MA    To:

        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Dear Karen,   Do Crehans count? Lowell is where my mother's father's family lived,

and some stayed there while some moved down to Brooklyn. If it's anytrouble don't worry about it, but I would really be interested in mygreat-grandfather's name, DOB, etc and this might help.

If you do look them up, Crehan names thatmight be related to me are Augustine/Augustus; Arthur; Catherine; Helen;James; Lawrence, all born around 1890-1910. I don't know their father's

name, but he was from Roscommon (we are pretty sure) and we can onlypresume was born in the 1860s or 1870s. He died in the 1910s, possiblyearly 1920s. This is so unhelpful and I know Crehan obits might be quitenumerous in that part of the country. So I won't be disappointed if youcan't wade through it all.

Happy Thanksgiving to everybody who celebrates it, by the way. Theresa Mary,

still sleep-deprived and writing badly from term paper night

 

 

==== CRYAN Mailing List ====

Areas (Ire) rsrching: Bandon and Glounthaune, Cork; Castlebar, Mayo;

Wexford; Dingle Peninsula; Caherciveen, Kerry; Newcastle West & Glin,

Limrk; Donegal; Nenagh, Tipp; Ballybane, Galway; Boyle & Keash, Sligo

 

 

Date:        Thu, 26 Nov 1998 03:35:01 -0800 (PST)  From:        Caoimhghin O Croidheain <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>Add to Address Book Subject:        [CRYAN-L] LDS    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

HIThe LDS list was sent to me by Mary Creaser.

All thanks go to her (and to Leslie for posting it)

Caoimhghin

 

From:        RuthK3834@aol.comAdd to Address Book   Date:        Sat, 28 Nov 1998 16:15:20 EST

 Subject:        [CRYAN-L] Searching for my Cregans    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

I have recently discovered that I had an Uncle Patrick who died in

October of1911 in New York City (Brooklyn to be exact)  He is buried in Calvary

Cemeteryin Woodside, NY with his mother, Catharine and his sister Nellie.  I

justreceived his death certificate and found out that my great-grandparents

wereJames Cregan and Catharine Fitten both born in Ireland.  I decided to

postthis as it is new information hoping that someone can make a connection.

Thanks,Ruth

 

From:        Fatarm@aol.comAdd to Address Book   Date:        Mon, 30 Nov 1998 11:05:29 EST

 Subject:        [CRYAN-L] Thanks - and next one is a large one    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Thank you Caoimhghin for the Turkey postings -- I found themThanksgivingmorning in my email inbox, printed them, and was able to share themwith myfamily (who also enjoyed the long story very much).  Since I was atravellerand had no food dish to offer, your story filled its place -- and I'llnever

look at a large turkey in quite the same light again ...Ruth, give me a chance to look through my stuff and see if I findanything foryou -- if you haven't heard from me within the week, nag me.  I know

I'vepromised to look for others, but if you never heard from me, pleasefeel freeto give me a nudge/reminder.  I've got a lot of balls in the air rightnow,and I'm not the least surprised if I drop some along the way (nor am Iput outwith reminders).Kathleen, what ever came of the Isle of Man Craines?  In reading mymessageafter posting it I realized I may have sounded more exclusive than Iintended.

Lastly, the next message from me is a longer one, as it is a re-typingof theCreasers' Roman Catholic Register findings in Boyle/Roscommon.  Thereareabout 80 entries, with my usual format of "-" in fields where noinformationwas available.  They are almost exclusively "Cryan" and "Crine", with a

fewother surname entries.  By the way, I require no gratitude for typing-- I'drather it was given to Caoimhghin and the Creasers for doing the realwork --finding the information and getting it passed around to this group ofinterested people.I hope to get something else typed and up to the list by the end of theweek(I think a lot of the remaining stuff is shorter).  -Leslie

 

CFrom:        Fatarm@aol.comAdd to Address Book   Date:        Mon, 30 Nov 1998 11:11:26 EST

 Subject:        [CRYAN-L]

 RC Registers of Boyle for Cryan/Crine/etc., 1796-1833    To:

        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Entries for Cryan and Variants, 1796-1833 (Mainly

Baptisms)                                                                                                                      

Extracted from Roman Catholic Registers for Boyle, Co. Roscommon, By

Mary &David Creaser, June 1991       

                                                                                                               

Birth Date      Baptised        Marriage Date   Death Date      Surname First

Name    Townland        Dad's

Surname Dad's First     Mom's Surname   Mom's First     Spouse's Surname        Spouse's

First   Witness 1's Surname     Witness 2's Surname     Notes

 

27/02/1793      02/03/1793               -      Cryan   Maria    -

        Cryan   Michael Donillan        Bridget  -      -        -       -       -

12/12/1793 or 12/12/1794        14/12/1793 or 14/12/1794                 -      Cryan   Winifred         -

        Cryan   Martin  Mullaney        Maria    -       -       -       -       -

28/12/1794      30/12/1794               -      Cryan   Joannes (John)   -

        Cryan   Robert  Lyth    Matilda -        -       -       -       -

26/01/1795      02/02/1795               -      Cryan   Jacobus (James)  -      Cryan   Pat.(Patrick)       Bruen   Catherine        -       -       -       -       -

 -      23/12/1795               -      Krine   Winifred         -      Krine   Michael Donelan Bridget  -

         -      -        -       -

 -      19/05/1803               -      Davy    Maria    -      Davy    Patrius

(Patrick)       Crine   Bridget  -       -         -       -       -

 -      16/08/1803               -      Theely  Michael  -      Theely  James   Crine   Catherine        -

         -       -         -       -

 -      20/04/1804               -      Dolan   John     -      Dolan   Pat. (Patrick)  Crine   Anna

(Ann)    -      -        -       -       -

 -      14/11/1804               -      Thevill Maria    -      Thevill Bart.

(Bartholomew)   Crine   Catherine        -       -       -       -       -

 -      17/12/1804               -      McDermott       Brigida (Bridget)        -      McDermott       Johs.

(John)  Crine   Anna (Ann)       -       -      Crine, Martin   Crine, Wina. (Winifred)

-  -      08/03/1805               -      McDermott       Patrick  -

        McDermott       Michael Crine   Maria    -       -         -       -       -

 -      08/04/1805               -      Crine   Bridget  -      Crine   Robert  Little or

Lithe   Matilda  -         -       -       -       -

 -      27/01/1806               -      Cryan   Elizabeth        -      Cryan   Stephen  -      Alice    -       -

         -       -         -

 -      c. 03/1806               -      Rock (?)        Eugenius         -      Rock

(?)     Eugenius        Crine   Catherine        -         -       -       -       -

 -      18/04/1814               -      Fitzpatrick     Anna     -

        Fitzpatrick     Edmund  Cryan   Margaret         -

         -       -       -       -

 -      23/06/1814               -      Cryan   Joannes (John)   -      Cryan   Darby   Nash    Joanna   -

         -      -        -       -

 -      20/11/1816               -      Cryan   Anna     -      Cryan   Michael Fury    Bridget  -       -     

-        -      -

 -      07/03/1817               -      Cryan   Patrick  -      Cryan   Michael Hannon  Margaret         -

         -

        Hannon, Mary    Cryan, Martin    -

 -      14/??/1817               -      Craig   Patrick  -      Craig   John    Cryan   Maria    -       -

        Cryan, Margaret         -       -

 -      06/06/1817               -      Keilty  Andrew   -      Keilty  James   Cryan   Catherine        -     

-        Cryan, Mary      -       -

 -      30/??/1817               -      Cryan   Joannes (John)   -      B- (?)  Thomas  Cryan    -       -

         -

        Cryan, Pat. (Patrick)   Cryan, Anna (Ann)        -

 -      07/09/1817               -      Armstrong       George   -

        Armstrong       Robert  Cryan   Catherine        -     

-        -       -       -

 -      10/04/1811               -      Cryan   Maria    -      Cryan   Michael Dru- (??)       Margarita      

-        -         -       -       -

 -      06/01/1818               -      Cryan   Patrick  -      Cryan   Robert (John? see

Deed)   Murrin  Johanna  -       -       -       -       -

 -      18/02/1818               -      Cryan   Matthew  -      Cryan   Matthew Corkran Fana.

(Fannia)         -         -       -       -       -

 -      05/06/1818               -      Doddy   Carolus  -      Doddy   Michael Cryan   Winifred         -     

-        -         -       -

 -      09/10/1818               -      Cryan   Winifred         -      Cryan   Peter   Sharkett        Ma. (Mary?

Margaret?)       -       -       -       -       -

 -      08/02/1819               -      Cryan   Ma. (Mary? Margaret?)    -      Cryan   Eugs. (?

Eugenius)       Cooney (?)      Cath. (Catherine)        -       -       -       -       -

 -      25/03/1819               -      Cryan   Anna     -      Cryan   Paul    Dyer    Mary     -       -

        Sharkett,Anna     -       -

 -      01/04/1819               -      Cryan   Mary     -      Cryan   Michael Feeney  Brig.

(Bridget)        -       -

        Cryan, Thomas   Cryan, Bridget   -

 -      28/07/1819               -      Cryan   Maria    -      Cryan   Michael Hanan   Marga.

(Margaret)       -      -        -       -       -

 -      29/04/1820               -      Fitzpatrick     Margaret         -      Fitzpatrick     Edwd.

(Edward)        Cryan   Margaret         -       -      Cryan, Michael   -       -

 -      11/06/1820               -      Keilty  Marcus (Mark?)   -      Keilty  Jacobus

(James) Cryan   Catherine        -       -       -       -       -

 -      03/07/1820               -      Cryan   Dominicus (Dominick)     -

        Cryan   Matthew Corkran Fannia   -       -      Cryan, Thomas    -       -

 -      30/08/1820               -      Cryan   Johanes  -      Cryan   Paulus (Paul)   Dyer    Maria    -

         -        Cryan, Peter     -       -

 -      24/10/1820               -      Cryan   Winifreda (Winifred)     -

        Cryan   Michael Fury    Brigida

(Bridget)        -       -      Cryan, John      -       -

 -      27/11/1820               -      Cryan   Robertus (Robert)        -      Cryan   Johs.

(John)  Murren  Johanna  -       -       -       -       -

 -      15/08/1821               -      McDermott       Maria    -      McDermott       Bernard Cryan   Maria  

-        -      -        -       -

 -      05/09/1821               -      Cryan   Peter    -      Cryan   Michael Hannan  Margaret         -      

-        -      -        -

 -      27/11/1821               -      Craig   Maria    -      Craig   Johs. (John)    Cryan   Maria    -     

-        -         -       -

 -      09/12/1821               -      Cryan   Thomas   -      Cryan   Martin  Higgins Catherine        -

         -       -         -       -

 -      10/02/1822               -      Fitzpatrick     Patrick  -      Fitzpatrick     Edwd.

(Edward)        Cryan   Margta. (Margaret or Margarita)  -       -       -       -       -

 -      10/02/1822               -      Dunavon Brigida (Bridget)        -      Dunavon Tim.

(Timothy)       Cryan   Brigida (Bridget)        -       -      Cryan, Michael  Cryan, Anna      -

 -      01/07/1822               -      Commins Domins. (Dominick)       -      Commins Pats.

(Patrick)       Cryan   Maria    -       -       -       -       -

 -      02/08/1822               -      Lyons   Johanes (John)   -      Lyons   Johs.

(John)  Cryan   Margta.

(Margaret or Margarita)  -       -       -       -       -

 -      15/08/1822               -      Cryan   Anna     -      Cryan   Michael Carrol  Maria    -       -     

-        -      -

 -      09/10/1822               -      Cryan   Brigida (Bridget         -

        Cryan   Michael Fury    Brigida

(Bridget)        -       -       -       -       -

 -      25/10/1822               -      Cryan   Francisca        -

        Cryan   Matthew Corkoran        Francisca        -     

-       Cryan, Thomas    -       -

 -      02/01/1823               -      Brennan Patrick  -      Brennan Peter   Cryan   Mary     -       -

         -      -        -

 -      03/05/1823               -      Cryan   Catherine        -      Cryan   Peter   Mattimo Necta (?)      

-        -      -        -       -

 -      06/05/1823               -      Cryan   John     -      Cryan   John    Carty   Honaria (Honoria?)     

-        -         -       -       -

 -      14/12/1823               -      Noone   Matthew  -      Noone   James   Crine   Maria    -       -     

-        -      -

 -      07/01/1824               -      Cryan   Martin   -      Cryan   Daniel  McDonagh        Mgt.

(Margaret)       -

         -       -       -       -

 -      31/01/1824               -      Cryne   James    -      Cryne   Matthew Gallagher       Anna     -       -

         -      -        -

 -      14/03/1824               -      McLoughlin      Patrick  -

        McLoughlin      Michael Cryne   Brig.

(Bridget)        -       -       -       -       -

 -      23/04/1824               -      McDermott       Thomas   -      McDermott       Michael Cryne

(?)     Mary     -      -        -       -       -

 -      20/07/1824               -      Cryne   James    -      Cryne   Michael Fury    Brig. (Bridget)

-        -

        Cryne, John      -       -

 -      05/09/1824               -      Reilly  Maria-Anna (Mary Anne)   -

        Reilly  James   Cryan   M.

Anne (Mary Anne)         -       -       -       -       -

 -      20/10/1824               -      Cryne   John     -      Cryne   John    Clark   Maria    -       -       -     

-        -

 -      14/01/1827               -      McDermott       Bernard  -

        McDermott       Bernard Cryan   Maria    -       -

         -       -      twins

 -      14/01/1827               -      McDermott       Michael  -

        McDermott       Bernard Cryan   Maria    -       -

         -       -      twins

 -      15/07/1827               -      Cryan   Maria    -      Cryan   Patrick Corkoran        Brig.

(Bridget)        -         -       -       -       -

 -      17/07/1827               -      Cryan   Elna     -      Cryan   Robert  McDermott       Maria    -       -

        Cryan,

Peter    -       -

 -      19/07/1830               -      Cryan   Maria    -      Cryan   Michael Carrol  Maria    -       -     

-        -         -

 -      10/09/1830               -      Cryan   Maria    -      Cryan   Michael Beirne (?)      Cath.

(Catherine)      -       -       -       -       -

 -      30/10/1830               -      Crian   Mary     -      Crian   James   Mullaney        Mary     -       -

        Crian,Margaret         -       -

 -      18/02/1831               -      Cryan   Catherine        -      Cryan   Peter   Karroll

(Carroll?)      Brig.(Bridget)        -       -       -       -       -

 -      02/03/1831               -      Crine   Robert   -      Crine   Patk. (Patrick) Martin

(?)     Maria    -         -       -       -       -

 -      17/03/1831               -      Cryan   Mary     -      Cryan   Michael Beirne (?)      Catherine      

-        -      -        -       -

 -      11/07/1832               -      Crian   John     -      Crian   James   Connor  Brig. (Bridget)

-        -      -        -       -

 -      20/02/1833               -      Crian   Pat      -      Crian   John    Harrington      Maria    -       -     

-        -      -

 -      24/06/1833               -      Crian   John     -      Crian   John    Drury   Cath. (Catherine)      

-        -

        Gerachty, Jacobus (James)       Drury, Brig. (Bridget)   -

 -      11/08/1833               -      Crian   Peter    -      Crian   Paul    Diar (Dyer?)    Maria    -     

-        -      -        -

 -      24/11/1833               -      Dolan   Margaret         -      Dolan   Jacobus

(James) Breheny Margaret        

-        -       -       -       -

c. 1803  -       -      c. 30/01/1838   Cryan   Margarita       Grangemore       -       -       -       -

         -     

-        -       -      Death date approximated based on burial date

c. 1769  -       -      c. 12/03/1839   Cryan   Bridget Grallagh         -       -       -       -       -

         -     

-        -      Death date approximated based on burial date

 -       -      07/03/1811       -      Crine   Margaret         -       -       -       -       -

        Fitzpatrick     Edward  Crine, Martin   Cane (?), Cecilia        -

 -       -      22/09/1812       -      Whelan  Elizabeth        -       -       -       -       -

        Drury   Patrick Cryan, Robert    -       -

 

From:        ljstandak@webtv.net (Lyle Staehnke)Add to Address Book   Date:        Tue, 1 Dec 1998 10:24:28 -0800 (PST) Subject:        [CRYAN-L] RE:Cryan    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

     Thanks!!!!,Caoimhghin, Mary and David Creaser andLeslie.....Such information really gets to the core of ourresearch...I`m almost certain my Great grandfather (Danial Cryan) ismetioned in the Boyle County record,along with son Martin and wifeMargaret McDonagh. Thanks again--- Lyle

 

 

Date:          Tue, 1 Dec 1998 20:52:31 -0500 (EST)    From:          simone samuel <amethyst@inch.com>Add to Address Book Reply-To:          simone samuel <amethyst@inch.com>  Subject:          [CRYAN-L] New info on my Crehans      To:          CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Thanks to Karen who offered to look up Lowell, MA Cryans et al., I have

learned plenty about my grandfather's family. I know now for certain

thatmy great-grandmother was Catherine Logan from Galway and my

g-grandfatherwas Matthew Crehan, son of Augustine and Eliza, who we will still have

toassume were from Roscommon. I've got dates, occupations, and all sorts

ofneat things, but I just wanted to share that jubilation first. Tomorrow

I'll have time to start rounding up FAQ-like stuff and if people are

interested I could post all the new info about my Crehans.Interestingly,

the third son was named after the father as someone suggested was

traditional Irish practice, so maybe I could look up the rest of that

system and surmise other possible relative names from those of the many

children.Theresa Marywho never knew a single great-great-grandparent's name before

 

Reply-To:          "Family History" < >    From: "Family History" < >Add to Address Book    Date:          Wed, 2 Dec 1998 10:42:06 -0000

  Subject:          [CRYAN-L] Exciting news for some      To:          CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

ESPECIALLY     Anthony Cryan     ALERT !!!  -  a cautious EUREKA !!

Hi everyone,After a rather distressing time I am here again. However , I do not

have agreat deal of time to do much writing but I have followed the recentmailings with enthousiasm. Thank you for it all.In the last few weeks my film of the Keashe RC parish records arrived

and Ispent some time looking at them.Sadly they are intermittant and seem in quite poor condition. They

cover theperiod roughly 1842 -47 and 52-55 and then there is a later transcriptof

1872-80 ish (these later transcripts are written in minute script). Ifanyone has seen any other periods of time for this parish I would bemostgrateful to know - my family interest seems to just miss these dates.

Even15 Jan 1845 - 3 Nov 1845 is missing - I think thay my Daniel is likelyto bethere and my John, just before the records started. Is that fair I askthefates ?One item of interest from these records is that the baptisms include thetownland/hamlet of the candidate (if one can read it, as the edges of

thepages are badly aged). From this it seems that the congregation camefrom a

much wider area than I imagined - it seems a huge parish from almostBallymote to almost Loch Gara and there are people from Gurteen.One explanation for the missing records (especially 1847-52) could be

connected with The Famine and its aftermath. Priests died too, and werenotreplaced . Villages could not support their own priest so amalgamatedtemporarily with another parish. The population declined by about ahalf ormore in some areas. A few missing pages in a book can imply the weight

ofhuman suffering !!Anyway after tantalising Anthony  - I hope that he is pleased with

this. Andnot where he expected. Something always comes up sooner or later - I

did notforget your interests.

14 April 1846 baptism of   JAMES CRYAN  of Broher(now written Brogher or Brougher,

about2 miles NEish of Gurteen and next hamlet to Carrowcrory)

Parents Dominick CRYAN and Catherine CAWLY

Godparents Patrick BREHENY and Sarah MORRISOE(I think this is the

nearest ,but writing difficult to read)

Michael, I think that this is the John that we have been talking about

20 Nov 1845    baptism of John CRYAN of Durnaska (or variation)

Parents  Patrick CRYAN and Mary HART

Godparents Michael CRYAN and Catherine CAWLY (likely to be a different

onefrom Dominick's wife as this is only 5 months before the above event

........... unless !  But there is no marriage record for them in the

intervening months but it could have taken place in another parish. I am

trying to cover all possibilities here. The other thought is that a wife

could have been known by her maiden name - is that too far fetched?

What doother think ? Have you met it before? Does it alter things?)

If this is yours Michael then so is this

1 May 1844  baptism of James CRYAN of Durnaskea/Derrinaska

Parents Patrick CRYAN and Mary Hart

Godparents Mathew/Michael(diff. to read probably the former) and Sarah

HART

Perhaps Patrick's father is a James , eldest son being ofter called

afterhis paternal grandfather,(if this James is the eldest son)

This is enough excitement for you all for this week.  We do want to

continue.........Until again and another exciting episodeRegards to allEve

I think also that Michael may be right about the 20 families in Keashe,

itwould seem that almost every entry is for a different family.

 

Reply-To:          "Family History" < >    From:          "Family History" < >Add to Address Book    Date:          Wed, 2 Dec 1998 13:23:26 -0000

  Subject:          [CRYAN-L] Correction to earlier posting      To:          CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Sorry Michael especially, but sorry to all - left brain somewhere else

or itis preoccupied with other things.I will rewrite the last extract I gave because I omitted a CRYAN surname!!!!

1 May 1844  baptism James CRYAN of Durnaskea/ Derrinska

Parents Patrick CRYAN and Mary HART

Godparents Mathew/Michael (probably Mathew but difficult to read) and

Sarah HART same place and same parents as the John CRYAN mentioned before.

Eve

From:        Fatarm@aol.comAdd to Address Book   Date:        Wed, 2 Dec 1998 10:58:23 EST

 Subject:        [CRYAN-L] Irish Christmas traditions    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

The County Cork list has been conversing for the last few weeks about

19th c.traditions of celebrating Christmas in Ireland.  I thought the

following was aparticularly interesting message to share with all of you, too.  Do any

of youknow of any Crean/MacCroghan/Creaghan type traditions (especially those

of youborn to the name)?  It'd be neat to find that an unusual familytradition was

a common link between cousins or branches of the family (we won't knowuntil

we try).  -Leslie (I'm off to call my grandmom to find out if she can remember her

mother's family's traditions)

* * * * * * * * * * * * * *

Hi-I always heard that the candle in the window was to give a signal to apriestduring the time of the penal laws. If the priest (who were in hiding)saw acandle, he knew it was safe to enter and say Mass.

>From O Come Ye Back to Ireland by Niall Williams and Christine Breen -

Santacomes to the front door on Christmas Eve, leaves a pile of gifts andthen

knocks loudly.

"Of all the traditions associated with Christmas Eve by far the most

prevalenttoday is the lighting of the coinneal mor na Nollag, or the big

Christmascandle. In each household the coinneal mor would be lit in darkness and

placedin the front room window to burn there until morning. The origin of the

customis that the candle is lit to show Mary and Joseph that, unlike the inn

atBethlehem, this house would always welcome them. In the same way it is

customary to leave all doors unlocked that evening and when going to

bed toleave some food in three dishes upon the kitchen table as a welcome for

the"travelers to Bethlehem" "

Amy (Datull@aol.com)

 

From:        Fatarm@aol.comAdd to Address Book   Date:        Wed, 2 Dec 1998 11:00:41 EST

 Subject:        [CRYAN-L] Wow! Misc and time period inquiry    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Congrats to Lyle, Theresa Mary (and Karen), ?and Anthony?  And welcome

back,Eve, we missed you.

Theresa Mary, please post the details ... the story is more than half

of theinterest for me!Eve, I, too, am interested in the famine years and their repercussions

-- amjust finishing "The Famine Ships" by Edward Laxton and am shocked by

what Iread.  The hardship of life for the common man is amazing.  There is a

sectionin the book about landlords from the Sligo area essentially removing the

"excess pauper population" by hiring ships to "emigrate" the tenantry. I

suppose, at some level, these could be considered some of the luckier

poorpeople of the period, given the starvation rate.  I've searched what

few listsare in the book for O'Creans and haven't found any (unless they are

anglicizedbeyond the forms I instantly recognize) particularly mentioned.  It'd be

interesting to determine, for those of us whose families emigrated, when

precisely they did so and for what reasons.  It'd make an interestingpart of

our family study to better understand the transportations and emigration

patterns, I think.Somewhat in that vein, I have a specific inquiry regarding time

periods.  Somuch of what has been posted is 19th c., naturally.  Caoimhghin and I

havewondered how we can start making headway into the 18th century.  Wendy

withher Craun research knows her ancestor was transported in the 1790s, and

through the list we've picked up a couple of other random 18th century

O'Creans/Creaghans/MacCroghans, but does anyone know of more source

materialfor that century?  I'd love to start digging up stuff to see if we can

linkanyone back to those 17th c. Bishops et al.  (Barbara, this is your

lead-in..)

--Leslie

P.S. Caoimhghin, received the loot -- how is it that you're always,like, 40steps ahead of me?!?  Am presently trying to get the Croghan birth indexprintout typed up to post.

 

From:        Fatarm@aol.comAdd to Address Book   Date:        Wed, 2 Dec 1998 11:17:49 EST

 Subject:        [CRYAN-L] Naming/birth order    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Someone correct me if I've gotten this wrong (through the list) because

I'mrelying on my never-trustworthy memory:

First son/daughter named after Paternal Grandfather/grandmother

Second son/daughter named after Maternal Grandfather/grandmother

Third son/daughter named after Father's Oldest Brother/Sister

Fourth son/daughter named after Father/Mother

Maybe, Theresa Mary, your ancestor's father didn't have an older

brother, soas the third son he was named after the father instead?

 

 

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Date:        Wed, 2 Dec 1998 13:10:02 -0500 (EST)  From:        simone samuel <amethyst@inch.com>Add to Address Book Subject:        Re: [CRYAN-L] Naming/birth order    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Well, I had heard that the father = 3rd son elsewhere, but I think this

kind of thing is likely to get mixed up. But I haven't checked on what

therest of the system was to see if the naming pattern fits in with what I

had heard. In the case I've just learned of:

Second son = paternal grandfather

Third son = father

First daughter = maternal grandmother

Second daughter = mother

There is no connection that I see with the others, although I don't knowthe names of any aunts or uncles. I suppose they might not havefollowed a pattern at all, although the info I have leads me to believethere might be a child who died and isn't mentioned, so maybe the seconddaughter really = the third daughter.That sounds really confused. Well, after I post my new names and dates

andhave a nice pizza lunch for mental energy, I'll get down to FAQ-hunting.

 

Date:          Wed, 2 Dec 1998 13:40:02 -0500 (EST)    From:    simone samuel <amethyst@inch.com>Add to Address Book Reply-To:          simone samuel <amethyst@inch.com>  Subject:          [CRYAN-L] CREHAN Family in Mass. (fwd)      To:          CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

This is what Karen sent to me, forwarding it seems the most concise way

toshare the facts. Following is a summary of a some other things I'velearned.

Marriage,  Boston, MA

1897, Vol. 471, pg. 122

  Matthew J. Crehan,  age.. 24;   residence..  Boston;   occ...

laborer;place of                      birth...  Ireland ;  parents,...

Augustine  andEliza;    # of marriage ..  1

  Catherine M. Logan,   age..25;  residence..  Boston;   occ...  cook;

place of  birth...  Ireland ;  parents...   f. ?      and  Mary;      

 # of marriage ...  1         Married by Rev. James Anthony Walsh,  clergyman

                             10 June 1897

 Children

John                              b. abt     (bef.  Feb 1898)

Augustine Francis           b. 20 Oct 1898,             Boston,   MA

Matthew James              b.  2   Jan. 1900             Boston,   MA

Mark  Leo                       b. 24  Mar, 1901            Boston,   MA

Mary Ellen                      b. 14  Jul. 1902              Boston, 

MA

Lawrence H.                   b. 16  Oct 1903              Boston,   MA

James P.                       b.  abt 1905

Arthur T.                         b.  abt 1906

Catherine A.                    b. abt 1908

Julia                               b.  abt 1909

Margaret                         b.  after  1920   ?

Helen                              b.  after  1920   ?

-------------------------------------------------------------------------

First mention in Lowell City directory for Matthew Crehan and family,

1907

According to the 1910 census,  Lowell,  MA,   (Roll 601, E.D. 877,

Sheet 18B)Catherine (Logan) Crehan had,   up to that time,  11 children,  8 alive

in1910.

Matthew J. Crehan  died  abt 14 Nov 1918.      ? on place of death.

No obituary found.Buried at St. Patrick Cemetery,  Lowell, MA  15 Nov 1918.

-----------------------------------------------

Lowell Sun,  Wednesday  27 May 1953

Obituary

         Mrs. Catherine M.  (Logan)  Crehan died Sunday at the home of

herdaughter,   Mrs. Margaret Flanagan,   2248  Stewart street,  Brooklyn,

NY.She was born in   County Galway,   Ireland    and came to this  country

when alittle girl,  having resided at   52 Fruit street, (Lowell),   for many

yearsprior to removing to  New York about 30 years ago.    She is survived

by fivedaughters,   Mrs. Margaret Flanagan   and  Mrs. Julia Addeo,   both of

Brooklyn, NY;  Mrs. Mary E. Whitlock  of  Irvington, N.J.,   Mrs.

CatherineWard of Newark, N.J.,  and Mrs. Helen Fleischman of Glenridge, N.J.;  a

son,John L. Crehan,  retired member of the New York police department;   17

grandchildren  and five  great grandchildren.

Funeral  Thurs. 28 May, 1953  

St. Patrick's Cemetery, Lowell,  MA

____

She also sent me info from the 1922 Lowell city directory about some

members of the family. Augustine was listed as Augustus - he was called

Gus, and my mother and aunts weren't sure what it really was either, so

perhaps whoever gave the directory the info had forgotten as well. (My

grandmother started out as Antoinette or something like that in Oct.

1909,but her mother kind of forgot and she lived as Theresa b. Dec. 1910 for

almost seventy years. But that's not even Irish family history.) So, in

1922, August* was occupied at a "car shop," his sister Mary was a

"winder"at Shaw Stocking Company, his brother John was listed as "removed to

Brooklyn" and his mother/my g-grandmother Catherine was listed as the

widow of Matthew. 52 Fruit Street was the family residence at the time.

 

Most recently, the tireless Karen has sent me the obituary of James

Patrick Crehan, the seventh child listed above, from the Lowell Courier

Citizen. He died August 9, 1931 after a "brief illness" in New York

(presumably Brooklyn as those relatives who were living here in Brooklyn

are just listed as in New York.) It says that he was a resident of

SacredHeart Parish in Lowell, and lets us know that only one of his surviving

five sisters was yet married. It seems that every surviving child in

the family except for Augustine came down to NY around

1922 or 1923.

 

Only twelve children are listed above, and a couple of the

"?" birthdates are well after my g-grandfather died (OK, the SSDI shows

that my great-uncle John was born shortly before the wedding, but I am

pretty sure that this part is not accurate.) It may just be another

familylegend, but we always thought there were 13 children, so perhaps one

diedvery young and was never mentioned in the directory or otherwise.

I'm actually thinking that maybe my mother and/or sister and I can take

atrip up to Massachusetts sometime to see the gravesites and whatever is

at52 Fruit Street now. My sister likes Boston and Lowell is pretty close

soshe might be into it. Since Catherine Logan Crehan came to the US as a

"little girl," someone must have been with her, so maybe there would be

relatives buried nearby, records at the church if it still stands, etc.

Sorry this is quite disorganized! Off to lunch...Theresa Mary

 

Wed, 2 Dec 1998 11:07:07 -0800 (PST)  From:  Caoimhghin O Croidheain <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>Add to Address Book Subject:        [CRYAN-L] re:Naming    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

hi    Its important to remember that the first daughter was often named

after Mary - as in Jesus's Mother, or a variant eg. Mary Elizabeth -with the naming pattern continuing as before. Have others found this in their family trees? I would be interested toknow just how common this was......

Leslie

Glad you got the stuff I sent! and thanks for the postings.

When my printed emails reach 200 pages I am going to do a rough index

and call it Global Cryan and Variants Research, VOLUME 1 !!!

Caoimhghin

 

From: Iliktotick@aol.comAdd to Address Book

Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 19:00:41 EST

Subject: [CRYAN-L] Holiday Tradition

To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Hi Cryan Cousins:

My mother (who was a Cregan) would light a "blessed" candle onChristmas Eveto light the way for the Christ Child.  On New Years Eve she wouldinsist adark-haired man cross the threshold to bring "good luck to our home"throughout the new year.  My mom was raised with her grandmother who was born and raised inIreland.  Mymother would always have a superstition for just about everything.

By the way, my name is Mary Joanne and my cousin's name is Mary Eileen. Yes,Irish (especially Catholic Irish) mothers often gave their daughtersthe firstname of "Mary" out of respect for the Mother of God.Happy Holidays,Joanne Tyler-Tucker

 

From: Fatarm@aol.comAdd to Address Book Date: Thu, 3 Dec 1998 11:04:49 EST Subject: [CRYAN-L] 17-18th c. Creans of County Mayo To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

[sent by Barbara for our database - she's on our list so allenthusiasticreplies can go to the list]

     Unfortunately, I only have my Creans up to the 1700's---then theymarryinto the Kirrane's who marry into the Brannicks back in C. Mayo.  Itwas agreat uncle Laurence Brannick who researched our family tree back along timeago and put in writing this information.

     My ggggggrandfather Arthur Crean (Prospect House) married a Mary

MacDonnell(Clooneen or Clonneen Castle)  Their son was a Francis Crean who maried

a JoanBlake of Coolcon Castle.  Francis and Joan had my ggggrandmamaCatherine Crean

who married a William Kirrane--a name extremely common and confined to

theBalindine area of Co. Mayo.  There my Crean name disappears into the

morepowerful husbands name.  I think Catherine and William would have lived

aboutthe early 1700's.  Would be nice to connect with some later day Creans

as I amsure my information would be quite welcome to others but unfortunately

I havefound in all my Irish ancestors a blank before the early and mid 1800's

unlesssome scholarly great uncle happened to write it down.

     Other names in my line (besides Kirrane and Brannick) are Glynn

(McGlynn),Ward, Cummins, O'Connor, O'Moren, O'Dowd, O'Kelly, Bell, O'Daly,

Gleeson,O'Kean, Burke and Coleman.  The great uncle was big on the "O's"

Best,Barbara Clark             

 

From: Fatarm@aol.comAdd to Address Book

Date: Thu, 3 Dec 1998 11:15:27 EST

Subject: [CRYAN-L] Marys and Josephs

To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

I, too, have seen the "Mary phenomenon".  Have the rest of you alsoobservedthe equivalent "Joseph phenomenon"?  I'm not certain it's an Irishthang, butthe first born sons in some of my RC family have Joseph as a first ormiddlename.Also, Theresa Mary, don't be so certain that Catherine came over with

an adultas a young girl.  Kids were not unfrequently travelling alone, or with

anuncle/family friend, to join parents or older siblings already here. Keep theoption open, is my suggestion, because I've looked at a lot of ships'listswhere kids were travelling alone -- even a child of 10 yearsshepherding ayounger sibling (2-3 years old).  I've certainly gotten the impression

thatalthough life was harder, people in general were kinder ...-Leslie

 

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From:        Fatarm@aol.comAdd to Address Book   Date:        Thu, 3 Dec 1998 21:03:56 EST

 Subject:        [CRYAN-L] Croghan (and variations) Birth Index from registers    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

>From Mary Creaser's research again, folks, via Caoimhghin.  I'm notcertainwhat registers are featured -- Caoimhghin, can you shed any light?  Atanyrate, please let us all know if you find something interesting in thebelow,everyone!

* * * * * * * * * * * * *

Birth Date      Surname First Name      Townland        Dad's Surname   Dad's First     Mom's

Surname Mom's First     Notes   Source Page No. Source Line No. Source

 

21/10/1814      Cryan   Mary     -      Cryan   Eugene  Higgins Mary    Register 1, page

66      1       1       Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

25/09/1814      Cryan   Brigid   -      Cryan   Eugene  McDermot

(McDermott?)    Deborah Register 1, page 66     1       2       Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

30/09/1823      Crens   Mary     -      Crens   Eugene  McDermott

(McDermot?)     Deborah Register1, page 155     1       3       Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

27/10/1828      Crian   Anne     -      Crian   Eugene  McDermott       Elizabeth       Register 1,

page204     1       4       Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

12/04/1839      Cryan   Catherine        -      Cryan   James   Flanagan        Anne    Register 2,

page127     1       5       Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

18/09/1841      Cryan   Thomas   -      Cryan   James   Flanagan        Anne    Register 2, page

174     1       6       Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

07/07/1844      Cryan   Anne     -      Cryan   James   Flanagan        Anne    Register 2, page

230     1       7       Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

04/11/1815 (?)  Cryan   James   Knockroe        Cryan   James   Lowe    Mary    Register 1,

page68      1       8       Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

01/02/1831      Crien   John     -      Crien   John    Byrne   Brigid  Register 1, page

212     1       9       Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

29/06/1867      Cryan   Margaret        Cararea Cryan   John    Canning Catherine       Register

3,page 18 1       10      Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

08/06/1851      Cryan   Brigid   -      Cryan   John    Carny   Honor   Register

MF      1       11      Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

07/06/1853      Cryan   Peter    -      Cryan   John    Carny   Honor   Register

MF      1       12      Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

10/07/1854      Cryan   Mary     -      Cryan   John    Carney (Carny?) Honor   Register

MF      1       13      Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

04/09/1855      Cryan   Catherine        -      Cryan   John    Carney (Carny?) Honor   Register

MF      1       14      Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

14/12/1856      Cryan   Patrick  -      Cryan   John    Carney (Carny?) Honor   Register

MF      1       15      Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

28/04/1858      Cryan   Winifred         -      Cryan   John    Carny   Honor   Register

MF      1       16      Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

08/01/1860      Cryan   John     -      Cryan   John    Carny   Honor   Register

MF      1       17      Cryan/CrohanBirth Index

16/08/1863      Cryan   Sarah    -      Cryan   John    Carny   Honor   Register

MF      1       18      Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

09/07/1865      Cryan   Honor   Carrana(Caranagh?)     Cryan   John    Carny   Honor   Register 3,

page 4  1       19      Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

02/09/1871      Cryan   Luke    Caranagh        Cryan   John    Carny   Honor   Register 3, page

44      1       20      Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

09/08/1874      Cryan   Michael Carrowreagh     Cryan   John    Carney

(Carny?)        Honor   Register3, page 61      1       21      Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

17/11/1861      Cryane  Martin   -      Cryane  John    Carny   Mary    Register

MF      1       22      Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

17/06/1860      Cryan   Brigid   -      Cryan   John    Corcoran        Mary    Register

MF      1       23      Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

10/07/1863      Cryan   Catherine        -      Cryan   John    Corcoran        Mary    Register

MF      1       24      Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

09/10/1859      Cryan   Mary Jane        -      Cryan   John    Dolan   Margaret        Register

MF      1       25      Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

18/11/1861      Cryane  John     -      Cryane  John    Dolan   Margaret        Register

MF      1       26      Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

13/02/1864      Cryan   Joseph   -      Cryan   John    Dolan   Margaret        Register

MF      1       27      Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

18/05/1866      Cryan   James   Croghan Cryan   John    Dolan   Margaret        Register 3,

page11      1       28      Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

08/08/1868      Cryan   Catherine       Croghan Cryan   John    Dolan   Margaret        Register

3, page25      1       29      Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

27/12/1870      Cryan   Stephen Croghan Cryan   John    Dolan   Margaret        Register 3,

page99      1       30      Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

15/06/1876      Cryan   John    Croghan Cryan   John    Dolan   Margaret        Register 3, page

71      1       31      Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

10/08/1882      Cryan   Brigid  Croghan Cryan   John    Dolan   Margaret        Register 3,

page99      1       32      Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

17/03/1874      Cryan   Margaret Anne   Croghan Cryan   John    Donlon

(Dolan?)        Margaret        Register 3, page 59     1       33      Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

27/02/1831      Crien   Patrick  -      Crien   John    McDrury Catherine       Register 1,

page219     1       34      Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

19/03/1822      Crine   John     -      Crine   John    Fairly  Catherine       Register 1, page

197     1       35      Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

02/01/1827      Crine   Thomas   -      Crine   John    Fairly  Catherine       Register 1, page

181     1       36      Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

14/02/1830      Crine   Michael  -      Crine   John    Fairly  Catherine       Register 1,

page207     1       37      Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

21/02/1836      Croghan Brigid   -      Croghan James   McDermott       Margaret        Register

2,page 62 2       1       Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

09/12/1838      Croughan        Eleanor  -        Croughan        James   McDermott       Margaret        Register 2,

page 119        2       2       Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

24/10/1830      Croghan Catherine        -      Croghan James   Travers Catherine

(Winifred?)     Register 1, page 212    2       3       Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

22/07/1832      Croghan Winifred         -      Croghan James   Travers Winifred        Register

1,page 222        2       4       Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

12/03/1835      Croghan John     -      Croghan James   Travers Winifred        Register 2,

page40      2       5       Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

30/01/1837      Croghan Michael  -      Croghan James   Travers Winifred        Register

2, page82      2       6       Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

24/04/1839      Croghan James    -      Croghan James   Travers Winifred        Register 2,

page127     2       7       Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

26/01/1841      Croghan John     -      Croghan James   Travers Winifred        Register 2,

page160     2       8       Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

02/06/1843      Croughan (Croghan?)  Thomas   - Croughan(Croghan?) James Travers Winifred Register 2, page 207    2       9       Cryan/Crohan BirthIndex

01/09/1845      Croghan James    -      Croghan James   Travers Winifred        Register 2,

page252     2       10      Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

18/09/1849      Croghan Patrick  -      Croghan James   Travers Winifred        Register

2, page292     2       11      Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

21/01/1844      Croghan John     -      Croghan Patrick Canry   Brigid  Register 2,

page220     2       12      Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

28/06/1836      Croghan Mary     -      Croghan Patrick Fitzwilliam     Brigid  Register

2,page 70 2       13      Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

01/07/1899      Cryan   John    Croghan Cryan   Andrew  McCormak        Teresa  Register 3,

page153     2       21      Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

15/02/1834      Crien   Margaret  -      Crien   Bartholomew(Bernard?) Hanly   Margaret Register 2, page 15 2       22  Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

04/09/1825      Crine   James    -      Crine   Bernard Hanly   Margaret        Register 1, page

164     2       23      Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

10/02/1828      Creins  Patrick  -      Creins  Bernard Hanly   Margaret        Register 1,

page193     2       24      Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

18/09/1835      Cryan   Sarah    -      Cryan   Bernard Hanly   Margaret        Register 2, page

75      2       25      Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

28/04/1839      Cryan   Anne     -      Cryan   Bernard Hanly   Margaret        Register 2, page

127     2       26      Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

13/07/1823      Crine   Mary     -      Crine   Bernard Hanly   Mary    Register 1, page

152     2       27      Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

06/03/1817      Cryan   Patrick Fairly  Cryan   John    Hanly   Catherine       Register 1,

page80      3       1       Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

25/03/1873      Cryan   Mary    Carrowreagh     Cryan   Luke    McOwen  Sarah   Register 3,

page54      3       2       Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

12/09/1876      Cryan   Patrick Carrowreagh     Cryan   Luke    McOwen  Sarah   Register

3, page69      3       3       Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

15/09/1818      Cryan   Dominic  -      Cryan   Malachy Healy   Brigid  Register 1, page

92      3       4       Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

25/01/1831      Crian   John     -      Crian   Michael Higgins Eleanor Register 1, page

212     3       5       Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

13/07/1834      Cryan   Paul     -      Cryan   Michael Higgins Eleanor Register 2, page

26      3       6       Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

12/09/1836      Cryan   Eleanor  -      Cryan   Michael Higgins Eleanor Register 2,

page75      3       7       Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

05/11/1837      Crine   Mary     -      Crine   Michael Higgins Eleanor Register 2, page

96      3       8       Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

17/12/1834      Crien   Michael  -      Crien    -      Murry   Mary    Register 2, page

35      3       9       Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

06/11/1840      Cryan   Patrick  -      Cryan   Patrick O'Beirne        Brigid  Register 2,

page156     3       10      Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

08/01/1832      Crian   Daniel   -      Crian   Patrick Butler  Brigid  Register 1, page

220     3       11      Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

09/12/1886      Cryan   Mary    Knockroe        Cryan   Patrick Connaughton     Honor   Register

3,page 116        3       12      Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

20/05/1888      Cryan   Honor   Knockroe        Cryan   Patrick Connaughton     Honor   Register 3,

page 121        3       13      Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

26/09/1889      Cryan   Patrick Knockroe        Cryan   Patrick Connaughton     Honor   Register 3,

page 124        3       14      Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

16/10/1892      Cryan   Catherine       Knockroe        Cryan   Patrick Connaughton     Honor   Register

3, page 133     3       15      Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

05/12/1844      Cryan   Thomas   -      Cryan   Patrick Cox     Honor   Register 2, page

237     3       16      Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

24/03/1846      Cryan   Mary     -      Cryan   Patrick Cox     Honor   Register 2, page

263     3       17      Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

13/09/1850      Cryan   Honor    -      Cryan   Patrick Cox     Honor   Register

MF      3       18      Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

03/10/1852      Cryan   John     -      Cryan   Patrick Cox     Honor   Register

MF      3       19      Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

10/04/1822      Crine   Mary     -      Crine   Patrick Croghan Sarah   Register 1, page

138     3       20      Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

26/10/1823      Crine   Patrick  -      Crine   Patrick Croghan Sarah   Register 1,

page157     3       21      Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

24/11/1826      Crine   Thomas   -      Crine   Patrick Croughan(Croghan?)      Sarah   Register

1, page 179     3       22      Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

12/08/1848      Cryan   Patrick  -      Cryan   Patrick Cryan   Honor   Register 2, page

290     3       23      Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

03/10/1833      Crien   Fergal   -      Crien   Patrick Doud (Dowd?)    Mary    Register 2,

page6       3       24      Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

26/05/1835      Crien   Catherine        -      Crien   Patrick Doud (Dowd?)    Mary    Register

2,page 45 3       25      Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

05/01/1837      Crine   Luke     -      Crine   Patrick Dowd    Mary    Register 2, page

81      3       26      Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

17/05/1839      Cryan   Sarah    -      Cryan   Patrick Doud (Dowd?)    Mary    Register 2,

page134     3       27      Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

08/12/1830      Criane  Brigid   -      Criane  Patrick Doud (Dowd?)     -

(Mary?) Register1, page 212     3       28      Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

15/12/1844      Cryan   Thomas   -      Cryan   Patrick Farrell Catherine       Register 2,

page237     3       29      Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

22/06/1846      Cryan   Mary     -      Cryan   Patrick Farrell Catherine       Register 2,

page269     3       30      Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

 

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From:        Fatarm@aol.comAdd to Address Book   Date:        Fri, 4 Dec 1998 10:00:24 EST Subject:

        [CRYAN-L] More on the Irish Xmas plus websites    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

This is a repost from the County Cork mailing list (note Tom O'Crohan-- whereare the Blasket Islands??):

http://home.fiac.net/marshaw/xmas.htm

http://www.ncf.carleton.ca/~bj333/HomePage.season.html#christmas

http://members.tripod.com/~pg4anna/xmas.htm

this one is my favorite!

Irish Christmas Traditions

By Patrick J. O'Hara

Christmas in Ireland was probably the most important of the Christianfestivals. Both spiritually and outwardly, the season was considered atimeof rebirth and regeneration.Houses were cleaned from top to bottom, linens washed, and floors andwallswere attacked with vigor, often by using sand. Pots and pans werescoureduntil they shined. Barnyards were cleaned, and buildings were oftengiven

their yearly whitewashing.Children were encouraged in their prayers, and often they would tally

howmany extra Our Fathers and Hail Marys were said during the season.Peoplethat had not attended church in a while would be seen at services.(Thesepeople were often known as "the hardy annuals", because of their yearlyattendance.)Children also would collect ivy, holly, or bay leaves to use as

decorationsfor the season. Loose leaves were strung together, and often pieces ofcolored paper were sewn into the patterns of the leaves. In the latenineteenth century, travellers would sell pre-cut paper decorations,printedwith religious sayings on them.

On Christmas Eve, candles would be placed in the windows of dwellings,inhonor of the Holy Family. This custom was to show Mary and Joseph thattherewould be room in these households, even though they could not findlodgingin Bethlehem. According to Kevin Danaher, in his book, "The Year in

Ireland", in west Limerick, "... It was the custom to leave the doorsopenand a candle burning in every window, and in addition to leave a tablesetfor three people 'to have a proper welcome before the travellers toBethlehem.' A Dish of water was left on the window ledge to be blessedbythe "travellers", and then kept for curative purposes." In other areas,onelarge candle, or the coinneal mo'r na Nollag, was kept lit throughoutthenight, starting at the Angelus at 6 PM.

One belief was that the donkeys and the cows at midnight would kneel inadoration of Jesus, and for a short period of time have human speech.However, it was considered ill form to spy on the animals, hoping toheartheir conversations, or speak to them.Before Christmas, trips to the market meant the purchase of meat,whiskey,sugar, spices, tea and other condiments. These were often traded for the

poultry, butter and eggs that they brought with them. A vast period ofswapping would take place, with farming families bringing bacon,chickens,and eggs to their relatives in towns. The families in the towns wouldthenswap "town goods", soaps, candies, and wines with their countryrelatives.

Some families would receive their portions of whiskey. Others,especially inthe West of Ireland, would get a quart of poiti'n from some industriousmembers of the family, even though the manufacture of it was banned.Most people would attend early Mass. Often, family members would takelanterns with them to light the way on the dark roads. The period beforeMass was a time of fasting, and there were a number of activities aheadforthe day.

On Christmas Day itself, dinner took center stage. It was the biggestdinnerof the year, and wives went to elaborate measures to ensure that itwould bethe best feast possible. Beef was the preferred meat for Christmas, andinmany parts of Ireland the beef of Christmas was spiced. The supply ofgamefrom hunting, the beef purchased in the town, all were presented to thefamily. While the women of the households were preparing the feast, themenand boys would be playing.After the Mass, hurling was the favorite activity of the males.According toTom s O'Crohan, Christmas on the Blasket Islands were like this: "OnChristmas Day, there was a match in which the whole village wasengaged. Twowere appointed, one for each side, as leaders. Each of those called inturnuntil all along the strand were divided. Hurleys and a ball we had. Thematch was played on the White Strand without stocking or shoe, but outtothe neck whenever the ball went into the sea. For the twelve days ofChristmas no man on the Island could drive a cow to the hill from painsinhis back and bones." In Limerick, a special ball with loose buck shotwasused, so that the ball made a louder noise. In Donegal, the matcheswould

take place after Mass, at the churchyard gate, and would continue untiloneteam managed to get the ball all the way to their township.After the dinner was served, songs were sung, stories were told, and

lifewas reflected upon. Children would tell tell party pieces, and familieswould bask in the holiday atmosphere. Thus would end another IrishChristmas.

Nollaig Shona Duit. Happy Christmas.

 

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Date:          Sat, 5 Dec 1998 22:45:01 -0500 (EST)    From:          simone samuel <amethyst@inch.com>Add to Address Book Reply-To:          simone samuel <amethyst@inch.com>  Subject:          [CRYAN-L] Arthur - common first name?      To:          CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

My grandfather, born of Irish immigrants in 1906 was Arthur Crehan. I've

corresponded with a couple of people who share an American Arthur

Crehan afew decades older (will have to wade thru messages, as I've started to

anyway for faq reasons, for details.) Recently there was also a post

mentioning an Arthur Crean around the 1700s. I've heard talk of my

Crehansbeing without their 'h' back in Ireland, but who knows. So anyway, since

we've brought up first names with the Mary thread, I'm wondering if

anyoneknows if Arthur was a name of significant popularity or unpopularity at

any time in Ireland? My first-name books all give inconclusive "Celtic"

and "Gaelic" sources, and I've associated it more with Scotland. You

rarely meet an Arthur among the many sons and grandsons of Irish

immigrants around here. So I just hoped it was more likely that these

listmembers and I would find a closeish connection because of the shared

firstname. Anybody have any thoughts?

Theresa Mary

 

From:             "Anthony & Jill Cryan" <cryanaj@ozemail.com.au>Add to Address Book Organization:

             The Adjutant's Desk       Date:             Sun, 6 Dec 1998 22:47:53 +1100    Reply-to:cryanaj@ozemail.com.au     Subject:             [CRYAN-L] Information overload and Thank You !!!!

         To:             CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Hello All...

A big thanks to Eve and Leslie and Patrick (PC:did you get the

reply I sent 15th November ??)Your collective information lately has filled in a considerable gap in

what I had - in particular that elusive fellow Domnic/ Dominic.I'm going through info overload coallating it all....< g >The thing is though I probably now have more paths to follow - the Game is afoot and I thank you all.Question: Does anyone have any favourite family tree S/W applications they would recomend ? I've tried a couple but found them not the best in certain ways.

TCAnthony & Jill Cryan     cryanaj@ozemail.com.au

 

Reply-To:          "Family History" < >    From:          "Family History" < >Add to Address Book    Date:          Sun, 6 Dec 1998 19:40:50 -0000

  Subject:          [CRYAN-L] Re Arthur      To:          CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Hi all, One thing it is hard to remember for all Irish descendents, is

thatuntil 1922, Ireland was part of Great Britain. QueenVictoria was on the

throne from 1838 until 1902 when Edward VII became king. Arthur was a

namein fashion with royalty at this time and thus became popular with

ordinarypeople. My father too was given the name Arthur in 1903 I think for this

reason ,with John his second name being his paternal grandfather's

name. Itwas rare to have more than one name, unless MaryAnne or MaryEllen

recordedin the national registers until after 1880ish but very often a second

namewas given at baptism a little laterThe rise and fall of the popularity of particular names can often be

linkedto real heros in battles or exploits or heros of fiction or honouring

royalty or saints etc. I can not remember when the Arthurian legends

wererevived but I know there was a popular Gothic Revival period in the mid

19century reflected in architecture, paintings and literature.Just some extra thought for you to ponder.

Eve

 

Date:        Sun, 6 Dec 1998 17:13:37 -0500 (EST)  From:        simone samuel <amethyst@inch.com>Add to Address Book Subject:        Re: [CRYAN-L] Re Arthur    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Thanks, Eve. One of my name books actually mentioned Arthur's popularityin England in the 19th century, but I hadn't been sure it would affecttheCatholic Irish. Actually, most of my grandfather's siblings had middlenames, as did their parents (well, I have their initials anyway) who

wereborn in Ireland in the 1870s.

Theresa Mary

 

From:        "Roger Cryan and Regina Pana-Cryan" <cryan@avana.net>Add to Address Book

 Subject:        Re: [CRYAN-L] Information overload and Thank You !!!!   Date:

        Sun, 6 Dec 1998 21:28:00 -0500    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

To Jill and Anthony (and anyone else),

I was wondering this very day about shareware.  Could you guys tell uswhat you tried, where you found it (and how clean the site) and what youdidn't like about it?        Also, thanks to Karen I have the first names of the parents of an Irishimmigrant ancestor (Moloney, not Cryan).  Can anyone suggest a way totracethe origin of someone from the name, the first names of the parents, arough birthdate (since the 19th century Irish all lied about their age,itseems) and the rough date of passage (since other dates had to bealteredto conform to the fictitious age).        I'm sending a request to the (U.S.) National Archives for arrivalrecords(on their required forms), in case that information is there.  I alsosuppose that a search by each county heritage society might turnsomethingup, but that would be quite expensive, and since Moloney is so common,theproblems we have with Cryan are multiplied.

        Any suggestions?    Roger Martin Cryan

(descended from Martin Cryan, arrived 1881, born 1867 in Ballinanultytownland, Boyle parish, County Roscommon, of James Cryan and Honor(Byrne)Cryan)

 

From:        Fatarm@aol.comAdd to Address Book   Date:        Mon, 7 Dec 1998 11:37:15 EST

 Subject:        [CRYAN-L] Good for you all! And some personal news    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

I just got my rootsweb update notice for December, and see that threeof you

all have posted your surnames to rootsweb's list -- good for you!  I

hope youstart getting emails / connections relating to that....  For those of

you whohaven't yet posted the surnames you're researching to rootsweb, go to

www.rootsweb.com and do it!  It's free!  And sponsors of rootsweb get

monthlynotices of new postings of the surnames they've posted (saves wear and

tear onthe old keyboard from having to go back and check all the time) ... a

nicelittle service.

Erica, I noticed you have a new/another web site?  I haven't been overthereto look at it yet -- do you have info others on the list might beinterestedin looking at?As regarding overload ... well, we lost a subscriber who felt"underqualified"for the list -- but we're still in touch, so they may come back.  But I

needto warn you all that my contact is about to get more random.  We've(finally)made the decision to uproot again.  The next two months will be packedfull ofthe present-day for me and my genealogy "habit" will have to take backburner.I'm sad to leave Chicago, but we're heading to Washington, D.C., whichcertainly offers plenty of attractions (but, oh, Kathleen, how I shallmissMarshall Field's!).  Of course, soon I'll have the whole of the LibraryofCongress to search for O'Creans, Creaghans, and MacCroghans!  Anyone onthelist in the Maryland area???

Lastly, I was fortunate enough to attend my last Cryan's daughter's (in

otherwords, my grandmother's) 80th birthday celebration this weekend.  We

had greatfun remembering all of her sayings -- agreeing that you can take the

girl outof Ireland but you can't take Ireland from the girl.  "Lord love a

duck!"(used like 'for goodness' sake'), "If wishes were horses then beggars

wouldride" (ie, that's not going to happen), "That's a lazy man's load" (try

harder), and a few others I think I've mentioned before on the list --

"Morefool you", "More's the pity" and "God Bless us and Save us, says Biddy

O'Davis" (Mrs. O'Davis to you, right Michael?).  Anyone else recognize

these?I look forward to reading your messages as always .... Leslie

 

 

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From:        Harvey.Wohlwend@sematech.orgAdd to Address Book   Date:        Mon, 07 Dec 1998 11:34:39 -0600 Subject:        RE: [CRYAN-L] Information overload and Thank You !!!!    To:

        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

I have found Family Tree Maker to be quite a good product. The company

alsoprovides a very helpful web site at: http://www.familytreemaker.com/

Regards, Harvey Wohlwend Austin, Texas

Son of Eleanor CRYAN

 

From:        ljstandak@webtv.net (Lyle Staehnke)Add to Address Book   Date:        Mon, 7 Dec 1998 09:42:31 -0800 (PST) Subject:        [CRYAN-L] RE:Irish songs    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

My grandfather,James Cryan,use to sing Irish songs to us..The problem is

I can only remember parts of them,so just in case they sound familiar to

anyone else, maybe they can fill in the gaps,,,

 

Hold her back McCarty cried,stop her said McCue,I thought we`d shake to

pieces as along the road we flew..Hold her back McCarty cried stop her

said McCue, Oh the devil him self was in the wheels behind McCarty`s

mare..

Lyle

 

Date:        Mon, 7 Dec 1998 14:32:38 -0500 (EST)  From:        simone samuel <amethyst@inch.com>Add to Address Book Subject:        [CRYAN-L] http://www.westchesterclerk.com

    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Well, I'm not sure how helpful this is, but I wanted to see if I could

luck out easily by doing web searches on some of my new Crehan names.

Oneof the links for "+crehan +august*" on altavista.com was

http://www.westchesterclerk.com/indexes/nat_co.html. This is Westchester

County Naturalization Records Index, 1808-1927 (that's in NY.) The site,

http://www.westchesterclerk.com, lists some available archives and has a

(seemingly costly) e-mail research request form. I'm just mentioning it

because there were a few Crehans, a Crian, and a Crean (possibly others)

listed with some odd codes after their names on the Naturalization

RecordsIndex, so it *might* be of interest to someone. Probably not, though.

Theresa Maryalso feels underqualified

 

Date:             Mon, 07 Dec 1998 15:08:10 -0500       From:             Genealogy Central <puopolo@cris.com>Add to Address Book Organization:             http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Woods/6036/index.html

     Subject:             [CRYAN-L] My web site         To:             CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Hi everyone,

My website address changed since I needed more space.  The address is

http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Woods/6036/index.html

Also, I have some pages for other unrelated family lines.  I could make

a Cryan/Crean/etc. page if everyone wanted to contribute their line.

It isn't hard to cut and paste lineages onto a family surname

page.Also, my page listed above has been nominated for an award.  I would

appreciate it if all of you would visit and decide if you wish to vote

for my site.Thanks,Erica

 

Date:        Mon, 7 Dec 1998 15:27:16 -0500 (EST)  From:        simone samuel <amethyst@inch.com>Add to Address Book Subject:        [CRYAN-L] This anyone's Frank Crehan?    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

I'll try to be more substantial in the future, but I ran into this

recordfrom the Penn Yan Democrat of Yates County, NY

(http://www.linkny.com/~history/1907vr.htm) of a Frank Crehan being

married September 20, 1907, and written up in this newspaper. If he

belongs to anybody here or is at all of interest, you can apparently

get amicrofilm copy of the possibly "quite long and detailed" wedding

announcement. I've heard of a Frank Crehan from a list member but not a

New York one to my knowledge.Theresa Mary   tidbit contributor

 

From:        Fatarm@aol.comAdd to Address Book   Date:        Tue, 8 Dec 1998 11:50:46 EST Subject:

        [CRYAN-L] Re: Underqualified   To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Now how the devil do you expect us to believe that you're"underqualified",madam, when you go about doing the research and contributing to thelist insuch a fine manner?   :)

You seem to be making good headway ... keep it up (and keep sharing --it'smaking good reading, at least to me).Lyle - I never even thought about the songs, but of course!  I'm afraidIdon't recognize your's, do you mine?  They're all nursery songs: "Camels andbears, and ponies are found / prancing around on the merry-go-round..." andthe other one that comes immediately to mind, again from my

Cryan-gene-pool,"Roo-ta-li-too-la-ti-de / You are *(Nick-y)*-bare-baby / You belong to

Mommy /and I belong to you ..."  We presently have four generations of ourfamily

alive today who were sung these songs as infants ... I wonder how farbackthey go?

  - Leslie

 

From:        ljstandak@webtv.net (Lyle Staehnke)Add to Address Book   Date:        Tue, 8 Dec 1998 10:10:26 -0800 (PST) Subject:        [CRYAN-L] RE:Songs    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

    One more song I remember my Grandfather singing goes like this.. Of

course I can only remember the Chourus! (NO pun intended) Oh how they

Tittered how they laughed when they heard the Lawyer declare,,Granny

died and left to you her old arm chair..(Then it went on to say that the

bottom fell out of the chair, and it was filled with gold and jewels and

all sorts of valuables..The last chourus was sung full of glee and

revenge for having been ridiculed.).Oh how they titter how they laughed

when they heard the lawyer declare Granny died and left to you her old

arm chair..   Lyle

 

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From:        Fatarm@aol.comAdd to Address Book   Date:        Tue, 8 Dec 1998 13:18:32 EST

 Subject:        [CRYAN-L] New Years' traditions from Genire-L    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Sorry for the repeat for those of you subscribed to Gen-Ire already, but

thought others might enjoy, too:--

Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 14:25:00 -0800

From: "Windows 95" <maggimae@chc.net.au> (by way of Vicki Lindsay)

To: GENIRE-L@rootsweb.com

John Dixon sent the following to me and has given me his permission to

forward to the list.  It is a comment on my email re a Scottish

tradition.The "first-footing" in the North-East includes bringing in a piece ofcoal -apparently to ensure a warm fire all year - but may it have some linkto the"black" item you referred to.Traditionally the first-footer had to be a dark-haired man (??Blackagain),who was given a piece of silver - usually a florin - and a drink ofsherryor similar.I recall vividly that on my walk to collect my grandmother to come toourhouse for New Year's Day lunch I was waylaid by several older ladies,livingon their own, who were superstitious about going out of their housesuntilthe obligatory dark-haired man had crossed the threshold.  Despitebeing avery young dark-haired man I was thought to be big enough to fit thebilland remember little about the subsequent afternoons through a haze ofsherryand jingling pockets!Feel free to forward this to the list if you think it of interest - Icannotpost to the list direct.

Regards from Hong KongJohn Dixon Maggie  M Keely Heffernan in Coffs Harbour, NSW, AUSTRALIA

 

Subject:             Your New/Updated RSL Information         To:             caoimhghin@yahoo.com

       Date:             Wed, 9 Dec 1998 20:37:20 -0800 (PST) Organization:             RootsWeb Genealogical Data Cooperative       From:             rsl@rootsweb.comAdd to Address Book    Reply-to:      rsl@rootsweb.com

Caoimhghin,                                                          

The recent release of the Root Surname List (RSL) contained new or

updated information from you.  Attached to the bottom of this form

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P.S. Corrections and changes we've received very recently

are not reflected in the data below.

Your address info:

kc949714 Caoimhghin [Kevin] O Croidheain [Cryan], caoimhghin@yahoo.com

                231 Campus Res., Ballymun Rd., Dublin 9, Ireland             

       Your surname info:

 Cryan        1836   now IRL>USA kc949714                             

+Cryan        1836  ---- IRL>USA kc949714                             

+Dolan       c1840  ---- Boyle,LET,IRL>USA kc949714                   

 Walsh       c1760   now Ballinla>Drumdowny,KIK,IRL>WAT,IRL>USA kc949714      

+Walsh       c1760  ---- KIK>WAT,IRL>USA kc949714                     

 

From:        Fatarm@aol.comAdd to Address Book   Date:        Thu, 10 Dec 1998 11:34:39 EST Subject:

        [CRYAN-L] Ask and thou shalt receive    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

No, I don't have a place to live yet ... but I did ask the Gen-Iremailinglist for lyric/song sites for Irish music, and look what I got!  Hopethishelps, Lyle.  And Theresa Mary, are these to be added to our FAQs? -Leslie

             Try http://www.sd.monash.edu.au/~exton/words/

Bob Lunny

RLunny6029@aol.com

Try this one: It was posted on a discussion group a week or so ago...I

had alot of fun with it.

http://www.sd.monash.edu.au/~exton/words/

: <hamiltont@washpost.com>

Hi,  I'm at the Rice Public Library in Kittery Maine.  If you check out our web site at :

  http://www.rice.lib.me.us

and click on WWW Links on the left hand side you will get a list of topics.  If you scroll down to Genealogy  and then scroll down the Genealogy page to the very bottom you will find two little dots under the tree.  Click on these and you will find my personal bookmarks.  There is a section for folk music and you will find a few links relating to Irish music.  Enjoy. -- Joyce. jstephens@rice.lib.me.us

- - - - - - - - - - - - -Try this site for lyrics.  It's the best I've seen.  Type in some key

wordsinto the text box and press search.  If you find out any sites thathave thehistory of some of these songs, please let me know.  I haven't foundany butwould love to.

http://www.mudcat.org/folksearch.html

Good luck,Frank Geary, geary@progress.com

Hi Leslie, Try the following URL :

http://www.dawnrain.com/home/lyrics.htm

I'll sent you another one later on, I have to find it. Chris

-CJKEOGANJR@prodigy.net

Try " http://www.downrain.com/home/lyrics.htm"

Also, and I don't know for sure if these work or not: go to your

browser andselect Info Seek and place in the search "Irish Midis" then select.

Thirdlytry " --//www. midiform.com" good luckWilliam Heatley, BiNo2731

 

From:        Fatarm@aol.comAdd to Address Book   Date:        Thu, 10 Dec 1998 11:52:25 EST Subject:

        [CRYAN-L] More lyrics, a new subscriber (and spelling), and another Xmas site    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Please welcome Michael, subscriber #42 (this reflects the 2-3 who'veleft).He's got a new spelling for us, CRAEN.  Thanks for finding him,Kathleen, andwe look forward to reading/sharing/chatting with you, Michael!  (I'llleave itup to you to post what you will from your Crain-L inquiry -- we've gotno

special formats, just jump in ...)

More song sites...

Another Web Site is Mudcat Cafe/ : http://www.mudcat.org/!-mnop.html

-CJKEOGANJR@prodigy.net

Go to:           www.cs.hut.fi/~zaphod/irish/all_titles.html

Have fun, Dick  :   rvs01@earthlink.com

Thank you, Mr. O'Hara, for suggesting this website. It is veryprofessionaland beautiful, too. I really enjoyed it !  The graphics and the musicare

first rate.       (http://members.tripod.com/~pg4anna/xmas.htm)

Mary McAuliffe Nigro, <CountyCork-L-request@rootsweb.com>

 

 

Date:        Sat, 12 Dec 1998 04:35:49 -0800 (PST)  From:        Caoimhghin O Croidheain <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>Add to Address Book Subject:        [CRYAN-L] Croghan Cryans

    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

hiThe Croghan list of births was the result of a visit to the Croghan

parish priest a couple of years. He proudly showed me the complete

computerised parish records going back to 1812. I then asked him

gingerly if he would mind if I copied down all the Cryan birth

references. "Havent you a camera there?" he replied, "Why dont you

just take a picture of the pages - sure thats what the Americans

always do!"Mind you, I did feel like a CIA agent taking the pictures.....

Caoimhghin

 

To Liam Walsh

hi againTry out this amazing website for Walsh family history.

http://pw2.netcom.com/~walshdw/index.html

If you have a problem use a search engine under "Walsh Family History"Let me know what you think. I am convinced that you have quite close relatives in the States from your grand or greatgrandfathers generation.....Kevin

 

Date:        Sat, 12 Dec 1998 12:34:09 -0500  From:        "Michael J. Jordan" <SYNTAXINC@compuserve.com>Add to Address Book Subject:        [CRYAN-L] More lyrics, a new subscriber (and spelling), and another Xmas site    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

This is my Craen line:

Descendants of Craen

Generation No. 1

1.  CRAEN1 was born Unknown, and died Unknown.       

Children of CRAEN are:

2.      i.      WILLIAM2 CRAEN, b. Bef. 1759, Bellview, Armah County,

Ireland; d. December 17, 1829, Lisbon, Ohio.

        ii.     JOHN CRAIN, b. Abt. 1789, Ireland; d. Aft. 1790.

Generation No. 2

2.  WILLIAM2 CRAEN (CRAEN1) was born Bef. 1759 in Bellview, Armah

County,

Ireland, and died December 17, 1829 in Lisbon, Ohio (Source: COLUMBIANA

COUNTY, OHIO CEMTERY INSCRIPTIONS  (Volumes 1 thru 20)Note:  Spaces

indicate different pages or groups of tombstones in same row.Phillips

Christian ChurchCemetery, Salem Twp.  Vol. 7.).  He married ELIZABETHKING

Unknown, daughter of KING.

Notes for WILLIAM CRAEN:

William Crain born in Belloreir near Armah, County Down Ireland with his

brother John came to America in ? John's history uncertain - but William

settled in Lancaster Co., PA at Georgetown Bart.. P.O. where many of his

descendants still reside. But on the 8th of July 1812 he purchased of

Abraham Snider the N.E. quarter section 20. Township No. 15 Range No. 3

ofSalem Township Col. Co. O. and settling there, afterwards - in the year

1817 - July 10 sold to his son John Crain the 7.6 acres - on the east

whichland is still in possession of Wm. Viers a grandson of John Crain.

Notes for ELIZABETH KING:

Elizabeth King coming to America on the same ship with William Crainthey

became aquainted and on arriving in America were married.       

Children of WILLIAM CRAEN and ELIZABETH KING are:

        i.      JOHN3 CRAIN, b. November 26, 1789, Pennsylvania; d. June

13, 1844; m. TABITHA PRITCHARD, January 03, 1815.

More About JOHN CRAIN:

Fact 1: 1812, War of 1812        ii.     WILLIAM CRAIN, b. Bef. 1823; d. September 05, 1823; m.

ANNBAER, Unknown.

        iii.    MARGARET CRAIN, b. Unknown; d. Unknown; m. GEORGE

PICKELL,Unknown.

        iv.     ELIZABETH CRAIN, b. Unknown; d. Unknown; m. NATHANIEL

MCCRACKEN, Unknown.

        v.      NANCY CRAIN, b. Unknown; d. June 07, 1824.

Sincerely,Michael Jordan - Syntax, Inc

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Writing at 10:37:20 AM on Saturday, December 12, 1998

Ideas are a dime a dozen. People who put them into action

are priceless.

Message text written by INTERNET:CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

>Please welcome Michael, subscriber #42 (this reflects the 2-3 who've

left).He's got a new spelling for us, CRAEN.  Thanks for finding him,

Kathleen,andwe look forward to reading/sharing/chatting with you, Michael!  (I'll

leaveitup to you to post what you will from your Crain-L inquiry -- we've got

nospecial formats, just jump in ...)

More song sites...

Another Web Site is Mudcat Cafe/ : http://www.mudcat.org/!-mnop.html

-CJKEOGANJR@prodigy.net

Go to:           www.cs.hut.fi/~zaphod/irish/all_titles.html

Have fun, Dick  :   rvs01@earthlink.com

Thank you, Mr. O'Hara, for suggesting this website. It is very

professionaland beautiful, too. I really enjoyed it !  The graphics and the music

arefirst rate.       (http://members.tripod.com/~pg4anna/xmas.htm)

Mary McAuliffe Nigro, <CountyCork-L-request@rootsweb.com>

==== CRYAN Mailing List ====

Subscribers' surnames:  Craigen/Creighan, Crawn/Craun, Crane, Crain-e,

Crean, Craen, Creen-e, Creagan/Cregan/Creaghan, Creahan,

Crogan/Croghan, MacCroghan/McCrohan, and Cryan-s.

 

 

From:        Fatarm@aol.comAdd to Address Book   Date:        Sat, 12 Dec 1998 13:22:49 EST    To:

        caoimhghin@yahoo.com Subject:        Re: [CRYAN-L] Croghan Cryans

CIA??  Get with the times, man, its the National Security guys that

everyone'safraid of these days (just saw the paranoia film "Enemy of the State"

withWill Smith on Thursday) ....Besides, the priest was probably referencing the Mormons -- now

understandthat both my husband and mother have good friends who are Mormons, but

likethe Japanese, they've got a reputation with their cameras.  I heard areference from an Irish researcher that a few years ago in Ireland youcouldalways spot the Mormons because they always had paper and pencil inhand ...-Leslie

 

From:        RWWPhoto@aol.comAdd to Address Book   Date:        Sat, 12 Dec 1998 15:50:09 EST

    To:        caoimhghin@yahoo.com    Cc:        RWWPhoto@aol.com Subject:        Re: [CRYAN-L] Croghan Cryans

Caoimhghin

        I am a very recent subscriber to the list and did not receive (see) the

Croghan list of births you referred to in your posting.  Could you send

aprivate copy via E-mail?      Thank you 

       Roger W. Wilson........RWWPHOTO@AOL.COM

 

From:        RWWPhoto@aol.comAdd to Address Book   Date:        Sun, 13 Dec 1998 11:09:09 EST

 Subject:        [CRYAN-L] "CROWEN"    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

As I tried to pronounce the array of "CR......"  surnames on the list

trailerI found several that were phonetically the same as CROWEN and wondered

if thelist could add "one more" sound-alike?  In addition, has anyone run

into theabove while tracking down their sound-alike ?  I don't think the

CROWENs thatarrived from Ireland in the 1840s spelled their names that way until

theyarrived in the US since I've only found one CROWEN in Ireland and none

on thezillions of passenger lists.  I would appreciate anyone's "best guess"

as towhat the surname might have been in Ireland.       Thanks

            Roger W. Wilson.....RWWPHOTO@AOL.COM

 

From:        Fatarm@aol.comAdd to Address Book   Date:        Mon, 14 Dec 1998 12:00:28 EST

 Subject:        [CRYAN-L] Crane, Crowen and pronunciations    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

I think Roger has hit the head of the nail square on ...  And, Roger,yourspelling reminds me of Wendy's ancestor, Thomas Craun/Crawn, Chrahan,Chroughan, Crone, etc.  You might want to start looking at Croghans --sinceCrowen has been a bust, and I'm assuming your "Crowen" is pronounced

somethinglike Croghan.  How DO you Croghans pronounce it??  Could Crowen be a

form ofCrown or Cowan?It might be nice to do a phonetic roll-call at some point.  Last week I

hadthe pleasure of talking with Tom Crane, father to Lisa (she's on themailinglist).  He has sent me a nice write-up on his family line.  He has beenableto trace his Crane family line to the surnames Crean and Crehan, butanywherehe's heard "Crehan" pronounced, it sounds "Crane" to him (he's got

Americanears).  Unfortunately, Tom's not online.  So I'm going to post hiswrite-up

over the next few days...  If you wish to contact him, let me know andI'll

send his regular postal address. - Leslie

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

The Crane/Crean/Crehan and Cuddy/Cuddihy Family History, by Tom Crane:

        1.   My GGgrandparents, Denis and Anne Cuddy.  These names and dates

aretaken from the U.S. Census of 1880 wherein they were listed as living

in myGgrandfather's (Patrick Crane) home as "boarders."  Denis' occupation

wasgiven as "blacksmith" and Anne's as "housewife."  Because of the other

documents that I have at hand, I have very reason to believe that the

DenisCuddy (b. 1810) and recorded in the 1880 Census is somehow directly

related tothe Denis Cuddy listed in E.H. Sheehan's book titled, "Nenagh and Its

Neighborhood," wherein on page 77 the following entry is made under the

paragraph titled, "Some Inscriptions From Tombs in Friary, Nenagh:"

                Cuddy, Denis, - Grocer and woolen-draper, Castle St., ob May, 1817

        2.  Michael Crean and Mary Shea.  These names are taken from a

baptismalcertificate that was provided to me by a Mr. Joseph Kennedy, farmer and

historian, of Callan, Kilkenny.  Joe Kennedy firmly believes that the

baptismal certificate is a true record of my Ggrandfather's (Patrick

Crean)baptism.  The event took place on January 9, 1844, and corresponds to

theexact year of birth for the Patrick Crane that was listed on the U.S.

Censusof 1880.  Patrick's parent's names were given as Michael Crean and Mary

Sheaand the sponsors were Thomas Coady and Catherine Shea.  The event was

recordedat the Holy Trinity Church in Fethard, Tipperary, Parish of Fethard,

Dioceseof Cashel.

(to be continued ...)

 

From:        "Michael Tobin" <tobinmi@hotmail.com>Add to Address Book   Date:        Mon, 14 Dec 1998 11:24:03 PST Subject:        [CRYAN-L] Keash records    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Eve,

In relation to the Keash film which you recently referred to, I have

the following observations.

Earlier this year (before this list started), I had the opportunity to look at the original Keash records. While I did not note all Cryan details down as there were so many, I had made note of some dates in

the intervals which you indicate are missing. For example, I noted a marriage record of John Creane to Eleanor Clarke on 19 Jan 1834, a marraige record for Marthin Cryan to Anna Ward on 22 July 1845, and

many others outside the time period which you saw.The records weren't ordered strictly in sequence in the book, with many blank pages separating some years. I wonder were mistakes made in

copying the material to film and some of the original material omitted? There certainly were some years missing from the originals, but Ididn't think it was to the extent that the film you have suggests (just to

confirm you indicated it had records for only 1842 -47, 1852-55 and 1872-80). The records I looked at went from c 1843 (except for the one 1834 record to which I refer above) to 1900.

There was a gap at one stage, but I can't recall which years it was - but it was only of the order of 10 years or less I think. Apparantly, the gap in the records was due to their being burned by the parish

priest's housekeeper over some row she had with the parish priest. It must have been a pretty serious row!In relation to the John Cryan (s) and which of them is mine, I don't know yet. Based on my current information, I'm almost certain that my John Cryan's father was a Matthew Cryan - but I've yet to confirm this. I notice that for one of the John's for whom you list the birth record- that one of the godparents was a Matthew. Interesting as they may all have been cousins. I had indicated in an email to the list way way back that I hoped to post the details which I had recorded from Keash atsome stage. Perhaps we can collaborate on this as between us, we will have got a good few of the pre-1900 records. I hope to return to Keash to look at the originals before posting my information so that I can double-check it.

regardsmichael

 

Date:        Mon, 14 Dec 1998 14:45:39 -0500 (EST)  From:        simone samuel <amethyst@inch.com>Add to Address Book Subject:        Re: [CRYAN-L] first names    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

On Mon, 14 Dec 1998, Michael Tobin wrote:

> To add my thrup'pence worth to the discussion on firstnames, I agree

> completely that many people were named Mary or Marie after Our Lady -

> probably so many that you still often adhered to the tradition of

naming > the girl after a grandmother also. Anne was a very popular name also

- > after Our Lady's mother.  Even today Mary or Marie is a quite common

> first and middle name in Ireland.> It's my middle name, after my half-Irish grandmother Mary, and a

Lithuanian grandma who grew up as Theresa Mary. <snip about Joseph>

> For the firstname of Arthur, I'm not entirely sure if it can be > classified as an English name. I vaguely recall that one of the High > Kings of Ireland was named Art O'Connor. Perhaps the English borrowed

> the name from the Irish [Was King Arthur not an Irish emigrant? :-)]

> Well, all my name books (first names were an early obsession asI've neverbeen satisfied with "Theresa") say it's "Celtic," or I believe "Gaelic"in some, which is ambiguous I understand as to Scottish/Irish etc. I'vealways associated it as Scottish, assumed the MacArthurs and McArthurs

were all of Scottish origin (or most.) But my assumptions have manytimesbeen wrong. I'm 1/umpteenth scottish, and an itty bit Welsh, btw, notthatthis gives me any extra credence.

Theresa Mary who is incredibly busy at this very moment, and just answering this one

li'l thing before she forgets.

 

 

 Reply-To:          "Family History" < >    From:          "Family History" < >Add to Address Book    Date:          Tue, 15 Dec 1998 08:36:13 -0000

  Subject:          [CRYAN-L] Re CROWEN      To:          CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Hi Roger,

I would suggest that the nearest version of the name woud be CROGHAN,

pronounced CRO - AN. So welcome on board.The most likely time for the name to be fixed at an alternativespelling iswhen going through immigration and the officers write down what they

"hear"in a "foreign accent" or in many cases what they think they hear. Andbeing

under pressure it would seem not to matter whether the immigrants areliterate or not and can spell their own name, the "new" name is what isofficial !There is a web site dealing with immigration at Ellis Island, it may beworth checking whether your family appear on the "Immigrant Wall".  Ido not

know the URL but it can be got via the search engines Yahoo andAltavista.There are CRYAN people there.Until again Eve

 

From:        "Michael Tobin" <tobinmi@hotmail.com>Add to Address Book   Date:        Tue, 15 Dec 1998 04:56:23 PST Subject:        [CRYAN-L] Another variation of the Cryan name    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

I recently picked up a small booklet in a bookshop in Galway entitled

"The Abbey of Kilnalahan" by Abbey Community Development Association.

Abbey is a village in south-east Galway and the book is about the abbey

or friary in the centre of the village. The abbey dated from the

mid-thirteenth century and is now in ruins. It was ran by the

Carthusian monks initially from 1252 to 1341. The Fransiscans ran it from 1341 for

500 years. I haven't read the booklet in detail yet but on a quick scan

through it, it lists the guardians of the abbey from 1629 to 1872. Of

the 70 guardians listed, 23 were members of the de Burgo family. The de

Burgo family (Burke) were the leading Norman family in Connacht.

In amongst these guardians is the name of Thomas Kyran, 1678-1681. 8 of

the 10 guardians before him were de Burgos. This suggests that he must

have been a man of some standing if he were intermingled with a leading

family such as the de Burgos. It also suggests that he must have had

the means to protect the friary from attack.

Note the time-period in which this Kryan name is recorded - the 1600's.

I don't think we have encountered a spelling of Cryan as Cryan beyond

the 1800's so far - we've come across Crean and other variants before

then. It raises the question of the origin of the name Cryan again.

Feel free to kick me if this sounds like complete nonsense.

The spelling Cryan is alot closer to this Kryan spelling than to other

spellings such as Crean, etc. Just speculating, but I wonder if Cryan

is a completely different name to Crean or if it in fact, derives from 2

different sources? In MacLysaght's book "Irish Families, Their Names,

Arms and Origins", he lists the O'Crean name and indicates that its the

same as Crehan and Cregan and that the Irish version of these is

O'Croidheain or O'Craidhen or O'Croidheagain.

Its spelling as Cryan is notable by its absense from MacLysaght's list.

I know we had other postings on this subject in the past but I cannot

recall the conclusion. I'm not saying that MacLysaght is the gospel on

this stuff, but he certainly knows alot more than me!

So continuing in this vein, given that this Kryan who was guardian of

the abbey appears to have been a man of power in the company of the de

Burgos, does the name Cryan have any Norman associations? Or possibly

he had some connection with the Burkes. This is certainly worthy of more

investigation in the future. There might even be papers preserved on

the de Burgo family as a leading Norman family.

The source of the list of guardians is given as "Liber Dubliniensis and

Liber Louvaniensis in the Franciscan Friary Library, Killiney, Dublin".

Perhaps sometime, some of us might have an opportunity to see if there

is any more information on this Kryan in that library. If we discover

that he was of Norman origin, it will be a very interesting discovery

for some of us indeed.

If anyone can throw cold water on my theories above, please do. Even if

he's not a Norman, this Kryan is interesting as if he's part of the

same family as the merchants of Sligo, it gives us an even better idea of

their prominence.

regardsMichael

 

______________________________________________

From:        Fatarm@aol.comAdd to Address Book   Date:        Tue, 15 Dec 1998 10:51:13 EST

 Subject:        [CRYAN-L] Tom Crane's family, part 2    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

(Continued from yesterday):

It should be noted that when my Ggrandmother, Mary Crane was admitted

into thecounty poor farm in Princeton, IL, in 1908, it was noted on the record

thatshe had been the mother of 10 children yet my father could only name

the same5 children that were recorded on the U.S. Census of 1880.  Perhaps,

this [thetraditional naming pattern, of first son after paternal grandfather,

etc.]could explain the gaps in the naming pattern as it related to Patrick's

andMary's children.

3.  Patrick Crehan and Mary Cuddihy.  This entry relates to the record

ofmarriage that was provided to me by the Nenagh Heritage Society by way

of Mr.Joseph Kennedy.  The event took place on August 2, 1863, at Silvermines,

Tipperary, and the witnesses were Patrick Shaughnessy and Mary Gleeson.

4.  Mary Crehan.  This entry relates to the register of birth of my

great-auntthat I recieved from teh Irish Records Office.  I was led to this

document bythe entry that I discovered and that was recorded on microfilm by The

Churchof Jesus Christ and the Latter Day Saints (Mormons).  The information

that Ihave shown is copied directly from the original.

Date & place of birth: 1-1-1865, Garrymore

Name: Mary

Sex: Female

Name and Surname and Dwelling Place of Father: Patrick Crehan, Garrymore

Name and Surname and Maiden Name of Mother: Mary Crehan formerly Cuddihy

Rank or Profession of Father: Miner

Signature, Qualification & Residence of Informant: Anne Cuddihy

(occupies her mark)

When Registered: 7-1-1865

Surname of Register: Calahan

 

What is significant about this document is the fact that Anne Cuddihy

signedfor the record of birth of ther granddaughter (Mary) to her own

daughter, MaryCuddihy Crehan.  Therefore, that Anne Cuddihy could be none other than

theAnne Cuddy who was listed as "Boarder" along with her husband, Denis

Cuddy,who both lived in the home of my Ggrandfather, Patrick Crane, and who

wererecorded on the U.S. Census of 1880.  This supports my claim that the

names,Cuddy and Cuddihy, have been used interchangeably by my family as well

as havethe names Crehan, Crane and Crean also been used interchangeably.

5.  John Crane.  My grandfather.  I have in my possession a very

detailed copyof my grandfather's death certificate.  He died in St. John's Hospital

inSpringfield, IL, on April 10, 1946, and is buried in Calvary Cemetery.

Hisparents names were given as Patrick Crane and Mary Cuddy.  In other

words, hisparents were the same couple who were married as Patrick Crehan and Mary

Cuddihy at Silvermines/Nenagh, on August 2, 1863.

6.  My parents.  Patrick James Crane and Dorothy Agnes March Crane.

 (Last section tomorrow)

 

 

  From:        Fatarm@aol.comAdd to Address Book   Date:        Tue, 15 Dec 1998 11:09:49 EST

 Subject:        [CRYAN-L] Kyran/Cryan    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Eve, I'm reminded of your "internet diet" -- I should be doingsomething less

fulfilling now, but I can't stop!!!So just a quickie -- I'm very interested in the Kyran (or is it Kryan?)

spelling.  Not that I wish to be disrespectful, since everyone I've comeacross views MacLysaght's publications as the authority in thesequestions,but I've wondered exactly what his sources are (they aren't footnoted). Yes,he references the tomb in Sligo, the Bishop fellow etc., but he

provides a lotmore information than I've  come across, even with the help of all of

you hereon the list.

I'm also curious as to why Cryan is lumped in with O'Crean (it is in

anotherof MacLysaght's publications -- there are 3 books to my knowledge, and

byO'Hart as well).  Especially if "crean", "crane", "crehan" are all

pronounced"crane" -- my "Cryan" is most particularly "Cry-ann".  Plus, has anyone

elsenoticed that the Cryans, at least those posted to this list, don't have

thesame kind of spelling changes/overlaps with other the O'Crean surname

variations (such as Creaghan, Crean, etc.)?  Maybe, Michael, you've

found the foundation ...

Although my husband will likely go insane -- three months ago he

"forbid" meto go after the Grahams and K-spelling-variations, saying that I should

content myself with the letter C.  I can't wait to tell him what you've

found... (grin) ... Leslie

 

From:        ljstandak@webtv.net (Lyle Staehnke)Add to Address Book   Date:        Tue, 15 Dec 1998 09:47:57 -0800 (PST) Subject:        [CRYAN-L] RE:Cryan Spelling    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

My great grandfather and familey`s name appeared in the Canadian census

in the 1800`s as Cryne,Croyne and Cryan at different times,,although in

one crown land document it appeared as Croyne and also Cryan..His two

son`s in Scotland spelled it Cryan ..I always figured,as some one else

has mentioned,that it was the census taker who happened to spell it that

way...   Although the others are Surnames I`ve run accross too..    Lyle

 

From:        Fatarm@aol.comAdd to Address Book   Date:        Wed, 16 Dec 1998 11:10:06 EST

 Subject:        [CRYAN-L] Erica and Tom Crane's finale    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Erica - I've been meaning to get back to you.  You generously offered

to postlines of research on your web page -- how many can you fit (grin)?

Would youaccept a little write-up/ad for our mailing list, i.e., our general

lines ofinquiry/topics of discussion?

Tom Crane's family, conclusion:

7.  This item relates to a family chart that was provided to me by Mrs.

MarieO'Mearea Crean whose late husband was Jimmy Crean of Fethard, Tipperary.

According to their family chart, Jimmy Crean was descended from John

Crean andMary Gleason.  His father, John, was in turn the son of Michael Crean

and MaryShea.  This would make him the brother of Patrick Crean (my

Ggrandfather)whose baptismal certificate I have in my possession.  According to

Marie Creanand some of Jimmy's relatives, John was known to have had a brother by

thename of Patrick who had separated himself from the family with no known

accounting as to whatever happened to him.  Since Patrick Crean of

Fethardshares the same year of birth with the Patrick Crehan/Crane of

Silvermines,Nenagh, as recorded on the U.S. Census of 1880, and the names of Patrick

Crean's parents of Fethard, Tipperary, which is in keeping with the

Irishtradition of assigning Christian names, it is believed by all concerned

thatboth of these Patricks are one and the same.  Perhaps, through further

investigation, performed either by myself or my descendants, that

reasoningwill gain additional support so as to be totally conclusive.

In addition, Tom has found information on two Patrick Crehans who were

bothborn c. 1840 in Bruff, Co. Limerick:

Although there was not any record of the marriage of James Crehan and

MaryDaly, the society did locate the record of marriage of Patrick Crehan

andElizabeth Browne.  They were married on the 26th of February, 1838.  The

witnesses to the marriage were John Browne and Patrick Riordan.

James Crehan and Mary Daly had the following issue in Bruff parish:

25-12-1838 Patrick - godparents: Patrick Creahan & Catherine Creahan

15-03-1840 Mary - godparents: Patrick Creahan & John Flaherty

19-06-1842 John - godparents: Richard Fitzgerald & Anna Daly

15-08-1846 James - godparents: John Crehan & Anna Conway

Patrick Crehan and Elizabeth Browne had the following issue in Bruff parish:

20-03-1839 Mary - godparents: Michael Crehan & Catherine Browne

10-01-1841 Patrick - godparents Patrick Browne & Catherine Browne

06-05-1844 Patrick - godparents: William Browne & Catherine Browne

14-01-1849 Catherine - godmother: Ellen Rawley

18-02-1854 Margaret - godparents Michael Connors & Catherine Quae

Again, if you would like to get in contact with Tom, you can through his

daughter on this list (Lisa) or by emailing me and I'll send his snail

mail info. - Leslie

 

  From:        Fatarm@aol.comAdd to Address Book   Date:        Thu, 17 Dec 1998 20:03:05 EST Subject:        [CRYAN-L] 3 new subscriptions and Registry of Deeds from Mary Creaser, part 1

    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

 

Hey, what do you know?  We've had three new researchers join our

mailing listwithin the last 48 hours ... please welcome them and look for their

postingson their research (hopefully soon!) ... and, please, you oldbies, don't

be shy-- if something new's come up, please feel free to post it.

Lyle, thanks for blowing my conspiracy-theory-like view of the

Kyran/Cryans --it wouldn't have been much fun not to have confusion with all the

Creans andCreaghans, now would it?And, so that I continue to whittle/winnow down (forgive me for notlooking itup, I'm in a hurry) the stack sent by Caoimhghin of Mary Creaser's

research,tonight I'm beginning her wonderful notes from the Registry of Deeds,

Henrietta Street, Dublin:  (there probably will be more than threeparts to

this -- I'll label them "Creaser's Registry of Deeds, part XX" fromtonighton):

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

Precis of Memorials of Deeds relating to CREAN and CRYAN of Co.s Sligo

and

Roscommon found in a search of the NAME INDEXES.

 

[1] 23 December 1747

(Ref. 353 97910)

JOHN CREAN of the TOWN and COUNTY of SLIGO, merchant, to THOMAS CASEY

of thesame, merchant;

[JOHN CREAN] demised and farm let to THOMAS CASEY that house or tenement

situate and lying in RATCLIFFE STREET, SLIGO, and then in possession of

thesaid JOHN CREAN together with outhouses, backyard and appurtenances

except theshop near CALEB BELL's house with a room and cellar together with

thirty feetof ground adjacent to the said cellar which [....?] to MRS FRANCES FAHY

ofSLIGOE, to have [........?] the Passage of the said Dwelling House to

holdunto the said THOMAS CASEY his heirs and assigns for the term of 21

years fromthe 25th March last at the yearly rent of 10 pounds 10s sterling .....

(usualconditions for re-entry, distress etc. in case of non-payment of rent.)

 

[2] 13th June 1767

(Ref. 266 56 167 738)

HENRY CREAN of STREAMSTOWN, CO. SLIGO, gent., for 264 pounds 8s

sterling didbargain, sell, etc. to JOHN LLYOD of CROGHAN, CO. ROSCOMMON, Esq., all

landsof CARROWKEEL, BARONY TIRERAGH, CO. SLIGO for remainder of 21 year term

asdemised to HENRY CREAN by JAMES MCDONAGH of KNAPPAGH, CO. SLIGO, gent.,

byindenture dated 20 June 1764.

 

[to be continued ....]

 

From:        Fatarm@aol.comAdd to Address Book   Date:        Mon, 21 Dec 1998 10:02:20 EST

 Subject:        [CRYAN-L] Fwd: a mess of Irish rsrch URLs    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Dear Ellen,

Per your request for Irish sites for genealogy on the web

http://www.celticenter.com/glossary.htm        

http://www.ireland.org/irl_hist/default.htm  

http://www.kst.kit.ie/nat-arch/genealogy.html#births

http://ireland.iol.ie/resource/dubcitylib

http://homepage.tinet.ie/~plough    (Dublin 1850 Directory look up)

http://www.bess.tcd.ie/irlgen/dirs.htm    (Directories in Ireland)

http://www.bess.tcd.ie/irlgen/genweb2.html   (Genealogical Guide to

Ireland)

http://www.bostonirish.com   (Boston Weekly newspaper)

http://promo.net/pg/      (for Project Gutenberg)

Cullinan @alphalink.com.au   (for Folklore Commission. IRL

http://www.iol.ie/resource/kennys/       

http://doras.tinet.ie       (for genealogical queries - all Ireland)

http://kerry.local.ie

Kerryman@indigo.ie

kass@megatropic.com   (for Barbados)

http://www.thecore.com/cgi-bin/ire-srch  (for Townland Search IRL)

www.oz.net/~cyndihow/ireland.htm   (for Irish Links)

       http://www.CyndisList.com/ireland.htm

http://www.kerryweb.ie/kerryman/previous.html   (The Kerryman Newspaper)

http://world.std.com/~ahern/TIARA.html

www.nbpub.nb.ca/irish/index.htm    (for Irish Emigration Articles)

http://www.kst.dit.ie/nat-arch/index.html     (for convicts transported)

www.cimorell.com/vbclient/shipmenu.htm

To subscribe Ship's List         TheShipsList-L-request@rootsweb.com

www.geocities.com/Athens/Ithaca/7974/Ballyferriter/      (for Western

Dinglearea)

http://image.altavista.com/cgi-bin/avncgi         (photographs, Ireland)

http://vassun.vassar.edu/~sttaylor/FAMINE

http://www.rootsweb.com/~irish/igsi/casey.htm    (for Casey's "OKief

CosheMang.." volumes Table of Contents)

http://www.niceone.com   (searchable database for all Irish websites)

http://lcweb2.loc.gov/ammem/wpaintro/wpahome.html    (for American

MemoryCollection Library of Congress)

I have a lot more.  Tell me what part of Ireland you're looking at..

Merry Christmas

Mary Ann Schloegl

Grand Blanc, Michigan

Researching  BOWLER, SULLIVAN, MANGAN, DIGGIN    County Kerry, Glenbeigh

 

From:        Fatarm@aol.comAdd to Address Book   Date:        Tue, 22 Dec 1998 11:37:23 EST

 Subject:        [CRYAN-L] Creaser's Registry of Deeds, part 2 (short one)    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Creaser's Registry of Deeds, part 2:

[3] 1794

(Ref. 263 313692)

Memo of indented Deed of Lease between LAURENCE CREAN of BOYLE, gent.,

andJOHN CURLEY of BRICKEEN, CO. SLIGO, farmer, of all that part of

DRUMDONEY not

occupied by PAT CONNELLAN or OWEN GAFFNEY, for term of 16 years, at

rent of10s per acre per annum.

[4] 28th March 1795

(Ref. 232 313318)

Memo of an Indenture and Deed of Lease between LAURENCE CREAN  of the

Town ofBOYLE, CO. ROSCOMMON, gent., of the one part, and MICHAEL CONLAN of

ARMAGHCARTY in CO. SLIGO, Farmer, of the other part, of all that part of

DROMDONYBEGG now in the actual possession of the said MICHAEL CONLAN,

containing about 30 acres, during the time, term and space of 16 years

from1st May ensuing the date thereof in as full and ample a manner as he

holds thesame provided the [title?] of the said ROBERT CREAN in said lands so

longsubsists, yielding and paying yearly during said lease the sum of 12s

sterlingper acre for any acre therein contained on the days and times specified

insaid lease for payment of said rent to said LAURENCE CREAN and is

witnessed byEDWARD HENRY of BOYLE, PATE HENDERSON and JOHN CONLAN of BOYLE .....

LAURENCE CREAN seal.- - - - - - - - - -

Merry Christmas, all!  I'm doing another transcontinental kind of trip,

andhouse-hunting while out east to boot, so I'll leave your emailboxes

aloneuntil next week.  May you and your families enjoy the Season, Leslie

 

  From:        "jmitchell" <jmitchell@ameritech.net>Add to Address Book   Date:        ed, 23 Dec 1998 22:30:33 -0500 Subject:        [CRYAN-L] Crean Surname/Castleconnor    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Hi All,

I received the following from another list today.  Although I'm

researchingCregan/Craigen, some of you may be interested in CREAN or any of the

othersurnames listed.

__________________________________________________

Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to everyone!

         Just wanted to let everyone know that the Castleconnor,

Diocese ofKillala records are online and completed.  They include the baptisms,

somebirths, marriages and death records from 1836-1880.  I hope that they

helpsome of you to find the peices that you are looking for!  Index of

names isbelow.         From our family to yours, we wish all of you a wonderful

holidayseason.                                       Sincerely, Cathie

http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlsli/castleconnor1.html

Index Of Names

 

Atkinson,

 

Barrett, Barron/Barrin, Barry,  Battle, Berane,  Best, Bigley, Biglean,

Blake,  Boland, Bourke, Bourn/Bourne/Bourns, Bowith,  Brenan/Brennan,

Brislane, Brogan,  Brohaney,  Broidne,  Browne, Burke, Burns,

 

Cain,  Callaghan, Caraghan,  Carbine, Carden, Carey, Carley,   Carney,

Carns,Carrell, Carrel/, Carlin, Carty,   Carson, Casey,  Cavanagh, Cavish,

Cawley,Clarke, Cawley/Cowley, Chearman, Cleary,  Cockran, Coggins/Coggans,

Coleman,Collins, Conlon, Connaghton,  Connel, Connelly,  Connor,  Conmy,

Conway, Cook,Coolican, Costello, Cosgrove, Cosgur,   Coulter, Cowal,  Creane, Cuffe,

Culkan/Culkin, Cullen,  Cunane/Cunnane, Cuncart, Cunnard,  Cunningham,

Curran,

 

Darcy, Deacy, Deniston,  Dempsey, Devaney, Devitt,  Diamond, Dixon,

Doecy,Doherty, Dougherty,  Dolphin,  Donegan,  Donlon, Donnard,   Dooher,

Donnelly,Donnelon, Dooey,  Doudican,  Dowd,  Duffy, Dunbar, Dunigan, Durkan,

Dunlavy/Dunlevy,

 

Eagan/ Egan, 

 

Farris/Ferris , Fee,  Feeney,  Fenaghty/Feenaghty, Fenlon, Ferguson,

Figan,Finan, Finlon/Finlan, Finigan,  Finn, Fitzpatrick,  Flaherty, Flanigan,

Flannelly/Flanelly, Flatterly, ,  Fleming/Flemming, Flynn, Fohnes,

Foody,Ford/Forde, Fox,  Fulfist,  Fury,

 

Gallagher, Garvan, Gaughan, Gelt, Geraghty,  Gettins, Giblen/Giblin,

Gillard,Gilgan, Gilmartin, Gillespie,  Ginty,  Golden, Gordon, Goughan, Gouran,

Gourivan/Gurivan, Grambs, Grason, Grecian,  Granaghan/Grenaghan, Grant,

Grenin, Gribbons, Grimbs,  Grimes,  Gromes, Gronagher, Grumbs,  Gudden,

Guhan,

 

Hallinan, Hamilton, Hammon,  Hanan, Hannan,  Hannahan, Hanaugh, Handley,

Hanley,  Hannily,  Harkan,  Harrison, Hart/Harte, Haugh, Healey/ Healy,

Heavey,  Helly, Heasley,  Hegarty,  Hendry, Henegan/Henigan, Herbert,

Heston,Hicks,  Higgans, Hinnegan, Holmar,  Hope, Hopkins, Hough,  Howley,

Hughes,Hughy,  Humber,

 

Igoe,

 

James,  Johnston,  Jones,  Jordan/Jourdan, Jude,  Judge,

 

Kahany,  Keane, Kearn,  Keaveney,  Kelly,  Kennedy, Kenny/Kenney,

Kerigan,Kilcawley, Kilcullen,  Kilernagh,  Kilgallen, Kilgowan,  Kilmartin,

Kilroy,Kine,  Kirkwood, Koen, Korican,

 

Lackan, Lahany/Lahaney, Lang, Langley,  Lanigan, Laughney,  Lavelle,

Lehany,Leonard,  Loftus, Lynch,

 

Madden,  Magee, Maginnis,Mahan, Malley,  Mark, Mart, May/Maye,Mayle,

Mearon,Melody,  Melvin,  Miles, Merick, Misset/Missett, Mofett/Moffett, Molone,

Monaghan/ Monahan, Monnely,  Moran,  Morris, Morrow, Moyles, Moony,

Mudders,Mulavey,  Mulderig, Muldoon, Mulhaney, Mulhearan,  Mullaney,

Mullen/Mullin,Muloney/Mulloney, Mulrooney, Mullarky, Munnelly,  Mully, Murphy, Murray,

Myles, Mylet, Mylot,

 

McAndrew/ McAndrews,  McCannMcCanne, ,  McCavish, McCarrack,  McCarrel,

McCormick, McCoen,  McDermott,  McDonell/ McDonnell, McDonagh/McDonaugh,

McGarrey, McGee,  McGennis/McGinnis/McGuinnis,  McGlone, McGowan,

McGowran,McGuire, McHale, McHear,  McHolm, McHugh,  McInnis, McKenney,  McKinsie/

McKensey, McLaughlin, McLeary,  McMahon, McMalaney,  McManus, McMorrow,

McNally,  McNamara, McNeeley/ McNeilly,  McNicholas, McNulty,

 

Naaree, Nallen, Narey/ Nary, Naughton,  Neary, Nicholson,  Nolon,

Noone,Nucome,

 

O'Brien,  O'Boyle, O'Donnell,  O'Dowd,  O'Hara, O'Mealey, Ormsby,

 

Patterson, Phleman/Phlemon,  Price,

 

Quinigan,  Quinn, Quigley,

 

Rafter, Raftery,  Raffery, Ranken,  Rape,  Rea,  Realph/Realphe,

Reap/Reape,Regan, Reily/Reilly,  Renalds/Renolds/ Reynolds, Rhay, Rice,  Rourke,

Rouse,Rich, Richard,  Ridington, Right,Roache,   Rochford, Rodgers,   Rogan,

Rolston,  Rouane/Ruane, Roughneen,  Roughner,  Rouse, Rowe,  Ruddy,

Rutledge,

 

Sansfield, Sargeant, Scott, Shannon,   Sheridan, Shevnane,  Smith,

Smyth,Stokes, Strong,   Sweeney,

 

Taylor,  Timlin/Timblin/Timlan, Timlon/Timblan, Timple, Toughee,

Tuffy,

 

Wade, Walsh, Walton, Warrent,  Watts,  Weir,  Welsh, Weneer, Witters,

Wray,Wright,

 

Date:        Sat, 26 Dec 1998 13:16:53 -0500 (EST)  From:        simone samuel <amethyst@inch.com>Add to Address Book Subject:        [CRYAN-L] quiet    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Hi all,

  Either it's been so quiet or I've been so busy I didn't notice many

holiday wishes on the list. So, belated merry Christmas and other

seasonalgreetings :) Now that I have nothing _but_ time for the next month I've

decided that it'd be best to make a small faq, put it up somewhere and

addto it. I always try to be exhaustive at the beginning and never get

stuffdone so this should work better. Also I got some free AOL hours inside a

CD-ROM gift so I'm going to try to look up Crehans in their member

directory or something. Happy New Year to all if I don't hear or write

anything before then.Sincerely,Theresa Mary

 

Reply-To:          "Family History" < >    From:          "Family History" < >Add to Address Book    Date:          Tue, 29 Dec 1998 11:42:03 -0000

  Subject:          [CRYAN-L] Late Christmas Presents      To:          CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

A late Merry Christmas but in time for wishing you all a Happy New Year.

For Lyle and (is it) Patrick?

>From the Boyle RC parish records

Martinus CRYAN christened 7 Jan 1824 son of Daniel CRYAN and Margarita

McDONAGHMargarita CRYAN christened 26 Dec 1826 daughter of Daniel CRYAN and

Margarita MC DONAGHJoanem CRINE christened 7 Sept 1829 son of Danielis CRINE and Margaret

MCDONAUGH

NB at this time it was most usual for the baptism/ christening to take

placeeither on the same day as the birth or within 3 days(from a church tome

andfrom observation, sometimes the actual birth date is also given in the

registers. The normal practice was for the priest to go to the house)

For Leslie and other Robert enthusiasts

  24 Feb 1824

Robertum CRYAN married Mariam Annan FORD   Boyle RC parish records

28 Aug 1794 (birth)  30 Aug 1794 (christening) Joannes (John) CRYAN

son of Roberto CRYAN and Matilda LYTLE     Boyle Rc records

8 April 1805 christening  Brigida CRINE

daughter of Robertus CRINE and Matilda LITTLE  Boyle RC records

27 Nov 1820 christening RobertusCRYAN

son of Johanis CRYAN and Johanna MURREN   Boyle RC records

30 Jan 1825 Robertus CRYAN

son of Robertus CRYAN and Maria Anna FORD    Boyle RC records

more to follow laterHappy New Year  Eve

 

Reply-To:          <rvcrane@ibm.net>    From:          "Bob Crane" <rvcrane@ibm.net>Add to Address Book

    Date:          Wed, 30 Dec 1998 11:09:40 -0500  Subject:          [CRYAN-L] Patrick Crane - Roscommon, Loughglinn ABT 1840      To:          CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Patrick Crane b ABT 1800, in Roscommon county,

Lived in Moyne, close to Loughglynn Lake and woodland.  a Fransican

conventis closeby.

May have married Margaret Burns. in this RC parish   (Loughglinn,

Loughglynn)(Civil parish is Tibohine)  both Patrick and Margaret died ABT1840.

They had three sons - the two younger sons, John and Martin emigrated to

North America after death of their parents around 1840. John became a

member of the clergy at Notre Dame University where he was known as

BrotherDionysius or Brother John of God.  He is buried in the old cemetary at

Notre Dame  (b.May 1, 1823- d.June 27, 1897)

Martin lived in Chicago at time of his death (12/27/1886)  obituary

printedby Holy Name Catholic ChurchHis wife was Eliza McKiernan of Fermanagh county Ireland.

Searching for details of emigration for Martin and John,  and the name

ofthe elder son who stayed in Ireland as well as  any further information about Patrick Crane and Margaret BurnsThis message sent without benefit of postage or envelope from:

rvcrane@ibm.net

- Bob Crane

 

From:        Fatarm@aol.comAdd to Address Book   Date:        Wed, 30 Dec 1998 23:29:32 EST

 Subject:        [CRYAN-L] Happy New Year    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

I hope you all are having safe and happy holidays, too.  After the 1st

I'llstart posting more data from Caoimhghin again...

In the meantime, let me thank you Eve, for keeping the Roberts flowing,

so tospeak.  I've got no known connection to those you kindly posted, but

I'll bethe first to say I don't know much of anything, and who knows ... maybe

1999will not only bring me a new home, but some more relatives, too!

Great FAQ idea, Theresa Mary -- you go girl!

And, just FYI folks, Michael has kindly agreed to make sure that all

goessmoothly should I be offline for a few weeks during my upcoming move.

I haveseemed to attract in the past those movers which believe being weeks

laterthan they said isn't that big a deal, and I didn't want such an event to

interfere with this mailing list running smoothly.  Given Michael's

diplomaticskills (how many times HAVE you kissed the blarney stone??), I'm sure

thesub/unsubbing etc. from the list shall proceed much more smoothly than

normal.Consider this a friendly warning that you'll be in better hands near

the endof January, if only for a few weeks ...

In the meantime, enjoy your family and friends, and don't forget to

toast your"four bears" when you raise your glasses tomorrow night ... Leslie

 

From:        Crogmos@aol.comAdd to Address Book   Date:        Fri, 1 Jan 1999 12:36:45 EST

 Subject:        [CRYAN-L] Re Croghan research    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Happy New year to everyone ! My New year resolution is to send my family

details so here they are ;-Michael Croghan born about 1780, probably had a brother James. James

had a sonPatrick who is buried in a graveyard near Carrogarve Ogulla parish near

Tulsk.Michael is listed as farming at Carrogarve in the Griffiths valuation

Hugh Croghan son of Michael born 1812 died 1901 also buried in same

graveyard.Listed in Griffiths Valuation. - my great great grandfather.  There were also two daughters -Maria b.1804 d.1827 buried in samegraveyard   Bridget b.1825 d.1903. Married Maurice Dufficy        ditto

Hugh Married Bridget(surname  possibly Beirne)  .Bridget was born 1825

died1872 -dates from gravestone in same graveyard.

Their family was ;-

THOMAS b. ?  died 1904 farmed at Carrogarve followed by his daughter

RitaKennedy. She was living at Carrogarve in 1965. She had two sons and two

daughters.Thomas married Sarah, born 1870 They had two children listed

in 1901census  Hugh aged 5 and Sarah aged 1

MICHAEL b? emigrated to USA had four children by 1965.

PATRICK b.? emigrated to USA had two childen by 1965.

HUBERT b? died before 1928 Emigrated to USA.

HENRY B.? died before 1928 Emigrated to USA Had two children.

JOHN went to live in Chester England d.1926

BERNARD b.1860 Married , living at Claremorris Co Mayo in 1928, in the

constabulary, son Hubert.

JAMES BRIAN B.24.8.1862  in the parish of Ballybrougham Tulsk. Died

24.10 1950. Norwich Norfolk England. Married Grace White.  -He was my

grandfather.

KATE b. about 1865 emigrated to USA . (There is an IGI baptism reference

Elphin Dec 1 1865 for a Catherine Croghan , parents Hugh Croghan and

BridgetBeirne which may be her)

ELLEN b.1868? married James Tully, four sons, one daughter.

JOSEPH b,1870 ? married with one son Hubert. Joseph was station master

inDublin in 1897.

James Brian had two sons Norman and Samuel and one daughter Matilda all

bornin Norwich. Samuel married Kathleen  they had one daughter , Patricia

KathleenCulling Croghan  -that's me

Perhaps someone can find a link with the sons who emigrated to the USA

itwould be great!

 

 Reply-To:          "Family History" < >    From:          "Family History" < >Add to Address Book    Date:          Sat, 2 Jan 1999 13:16:53 -0000

  Subject:          [CRYAN-L] New Year presents -      To:          CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

A Happy New Year to everyone,

For Roger -I hope that this fits the bill. If you wish to check them, the records

areavailable to read at the LDS Family History Centres, but they may have

tosend away to acquire them.codes - c = christening or baptism

           IGI = International Genealogical Index, available in all

publiclibraries(of a reasonable size) in England presumably also in the USA

           index = the reference no given to all civil registrations,

and isrequired if you wish to send to the "National Registry" in Dublin for

thecertificate.

James CRYAN and Honor BEIRNE(various spellings)no marriage records found

children

Michael c 5 Nov 1854 Boyle RC

Bridgit c 24 Feb 1856 Boyle RC

Anne c 13 Dec1857  Boyle RC

James c 2 Oct 1859 Boyle RC

Martin c 29 Sept 1861 Boyle RC

Hanoria c 22 Nov 1863 Boyle RC

John  17 Aug 1865 IGI prob birth(index 14.98)

          no John death in the national registers

John 30 Aug 1865 IGI probably christening of the same John

Mary Jane birth 2 Jan 1870

The most probable parents for James CRYAN are

Michael CRYAN and Bridgit FURY(various spellings)

The names fit those of James first two children

children

Anne c 20 Nov 1816 Boyle RC

Mary c 1 April 1819 Boyle RC

Winifred c 24 Oct 1820 Boyle RC

Bridget c 9 Oct 1822 Boyle RC

James c 2 July 1824 Boyle RC ***** your James ????

Margaret c 5 April 1826 Boyle RC

John c   March 1830 (no date given)

possibly Honor Beirne's parents are James and Anne ?????

Re RORKE

Over my records the name Farrel varies in its spelling considerably from

Fargallo to Francis to Fergallus to Farrellii to all variations in one

family with the same wife. So I must conclude that a Farrell could be

anyone of the above variations

Thus - I have -Patrtium(Patrick) ROARK c 8 Feb 1829

                           parents Farrell ROARK and Bridgetae WINN

Boyle RC                    Fergalus RORKE c 26 Jan 1827

                           parents Fergalus RORKE and Brigida WINN

Boyle RC    it would seem that  Farrel(various spellings)  RORKE and Brigid

WINN/WYNNE  had 10 children from 1818 - 1842 of which Fergalus/Farrell and Patrick

areno 4 & 5

A Farrel RORKE married a Mary CARROLL and had a daughter Anne

christened 15Nov 1847 in Boyle RC

I have no indications on where they lived. There are lots of RORKEs but

veryfew Farrells.

I have no other records on any of the aboveAll the best Eve

 

From:        Voltene@aol.comAdd to Address Book   Date:        Sat, 2 Jan 1999 18:08:02 EST Subject:

        [CRYAN-L] CRYAN - Lowell,MA obituaries    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

I have obituaries for the following CRYANS buried in Lowell

cemeteries.   Not all resided in Lowell,  and many of the obits mention

survivors in different cities and states.           If anyone would like me to send any to you, please give me thenameand date of death.

CRYAN

Alexander T,    age  75,   died 27 Mar. 1956

Anna G.  (O'Reilly),     a. 50,     died 3 Apr. 1936

Annie,  Miss,     a. 47,     died  11 Nov. 1922

Annie,       a. 88,     died 20 Nov. 1962,         res.  Medford, MA

Annie J.   (McGuane),    a. 92,    died 19 Nov. 1972,   d. in JamaicaPlain,MA

Ann  (Mulhearn),     a. 62,   died  29 June 1916,   widow of Thomas

Bridget T., Miss,     a. 80,   died 3 Jan. 1949

Bridget  (Foley)      a. 73,   died  17 Dec. 1921,    widow of Michael

Bridget, Miss.,       a. 75,   died 14 Jan. 1948

Bridget, (Leighton)      a.70,   died 19 Nov. 1912,   wife of Timothy

Delia (Bridget)(Sullivan)        a. 79,   died  23 June 1954,    widowofThomas E.

Edward J.,        a. 83,   died 20 May 1945, 

Hannah, Miss,   a. 56,   died 16 Aug. 1920

Harriet V. (Tyrrell),   a. 79,   died 29 Apr. 1954,    widow of John

Irene H. (Harrington),   a. 68,  died 21 Mar. 1975

James,       a. 55,    died 25 Jan. 1939,       res.  New York City, NY

James Charles,      a. 35,    died 20 Oct 1909,        husband of Mary(Conway)

James Joseph,        a. 27,     died 17 Nov. 1908

James,           a. 56,   died 17 Dec. 1920

James P.      a. 65,     died 26 June 1966,   

James U.,      a. 81,    died 29 Jan. 1990,    

John J.,        a. 59,   died Nov. 1954

John J.,        a. 74,   died abt 2 Feb. 1975

John P.,       a. 64,   died 4 Feb. 1939,         widower of Anna(O'Reilly)

John P.,        a. 65,     died 25 Jan 1940        husband of Harriett(Tyrrell)

Julia M. (Fitzgerald),    a. 60,   died 3 June 1925,   wife of Thomas

Katherine,    a. 12,     died 26 Mar 1918

Leo C.,    a.  (?),       died  1 Feb.  (?),   husand of Delima (Laline)

Madeline T., Miss,     a. 84,       died 19 Dec. 1992

Margaret A.  (Murray),   a. 68,   died 11 Feb. 1934

Margaret J.,   Miss,    a. 82,      died 10 Sept. 1959

Margaret A.(Moloney)    a. 82.      died 24 Apr. 1947,  widow of MartinC.

M. Annie, Miss,       a. 75,   died 13 Aug. 1943,  

Mary Louise  (Boisvert),    a. 35,    died 10 Dec. 1928

Mary,  Miss,      a. 56,   died 19 Feb. 1925

Mary,         a. 73,       died 31 July 1902,   widow of Michael

Mary  (Conway),   a.49,       13 Sept. 1924,        widow of James C.

Mary,  Miss,      a. 95,     died 21 Sept 1983

Mary E., Miss,     a. 25,      died 2 Feb. 1920

Martin C.,       a. 61,       died 27 Mar. 1936       husband ofMargaret A.(Moloney)

Michael .,   a. 28,   died  6 May 1911

Michael,      a. 50,      died 8 June 1899

Nellie,      a. 2 yrs,5 mos.,     died 25 Aug. 1907,    dau. of ThomasandBridget

Nellie, Miss,     a. 58,     died  27 Sept. 1939

Nora,  Miss,      a. 52,     died 3 Sept. 1938

Robert W.,        a. 29,     died abt. 25 June 1956, in Boston,    noobit.

Rosemary,       a. 12,      died 2 Nov. 1935

Sarah B.(McMahon)      a.71,    died 13 July 1911,   widow of James

Sarah A. (Igo),   a. 29,   died 16 Jan. 1905,  wife of John

Thomas E.,Jr,      a. 52,   died 21 May 1952.     

Thomas,      a. 65,   died 14 Apr. 1910

Thomas W.,    a. (?),      died 7 Jan. 1949

Thomas E.,     a. 62,    died 15 Sept. 1934

Thomas,        a. 74,     died  25 Mar. 1937

Timothy J.,    a. 52,   died  4 May 1970,      res. Fitchburg, MA

J. Vincent,      a. 8 yrs.,7 mos.,   died 22 Apr. 1923,   son of John &Harriett

 Make requests to     Karen Murphy

 

Reply-To:          "Family History" < >    From:          "Family History" < >Add to Address Book  Subject:          Re: [CRYAN-L] New Year presents -

    Date:          Tue, 5 Jan 1999 18:23:53 -0000      To:          CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Hi Roger,

Do investigate the LDS Family History Centre. They are very helpful, I

havefound.I omitted the film number for the Boyle RC Parish Records which is 

989743 A small charge may be made for the hire of the film. It all depends on

whether it is in stock. We borrow the film for 3 months and it stays at

thelocal LDS before being returned to a central loan place. Your system

may bedifferent.The film is a photograph of the actual pages of the parish book and is

forthe most part written in Latin (as I described before) Parts of it are

sofaded that it is difficult to decypher. But it is worth looking at.

I had started to transcribe it but for Christmas was given 5 CDs of LDS

Vital Records and I find that the Boyle records are there with sorting

programs to pick out those of the same name or of the same place or

thosewith the same parents , etc. etc.They are super but do not have all the parishes only a selection of

England, Wales, Scotland and Ireland.We are just lucky that Boyle is there.

Perhapsthere will be more parishes to come later.

In the registers written by the priest for the most part there are

godparents/ sponsors/witnesses to the baptisms and marriages and

sometimesthe townland is given but these extras are not on the CDs

It is also worth remembering that baptisms were usually perfomed in the

house of the family when the babe was a few days old (2or3) and that the

entry was made in the parish book later ,I presume. Which may account

forwhat seems to be some errors of parentage that I have found - correct

surname and wife/mother but father's first name different. Perhaps they

wetthe baby's head with strong water !!!!!  - or maybe that is reality !!!

I have been collecting together those of the same family from these

records(the CDs make it much easier to sort the records instead of

having towrite everything down, page by page from the film and then collect

families)and of all the James CRYANs in these records Michael CRYAN and Bridgit

FURYwere the only pair of all possible combinations of your name selections.

I suggest that the John CRYAN buried may be the youngest brother of

Michaeland the Bridgit CRYAN who died aged 75 in 1852 is most likely to be

MIchael's mother born in 1777 or an older unmarried sister. It is

unlikelyto be Bridgit CRYAN nee FURY who would then have been 53 at the birth

of heryoungest child in 1830. To have his first child in Nov 1816 Michael must

have been born before 1797when he would have been 19or 20.

On the otherhand as there are literally hundreds of CRYANs around at

thesetimes in this place - Boyle - it may be coincidence that there are other

not-close-family CRYANs in the same townland.Until again, good luck, Eve

 

-----Original Message-----

From: Roger Cryan and Regina Pana-Cryan <cryan@avana.net>To: Family History < >Date: 05 January 1999 02:50Subject: Re: [CRYAN-L] New Year presents -

>Eve,> Thank you very much.  Michael and Bridget look like a good fit,

although>Kevin's death records showed a John Cryan in Ballinulta, dying in late

1855>at the age of 36.> Do the LDS records have baptismal sponsors?  There is a Family History

>Center not far from my home, although I've not yet been there.> I suppose the best means of (more or less) confirming this would befind>the death record for my James Cryan and match it to Michael and

Bridgit's>son.> Thanks again,> Roger Cryan

From:        Fatarm@aol.comAdd to Address Book   Date:        Thu, 7 Jan 1999 10:24:43 EST

 Subject:        [CRYAN-L] Hi there ...    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Yup, it's been pretty quiet.  I've got to get busy typing again ... Istill

have stuff to post from Kevin / Caoimhghin.  I also may get a chance to

get tothe library this month to take another shot at Griffith's etc.

Do you remember, many months ago, when I posted those excerpts from the

Irishnewspaper here in Boston ('here in' = U.S.) about relatives looking for

otherlost relatives?  Is there any similar type compilation there in

Australia?Since you all have a similar situation where all but the natives are

fromsomewhere else, I wonder what kind of sources you all have.

In case I do get over to the library next week (assuming that Mother

Naturedoesn't dump another foot or two of snow on us -- January can be SUCH

fun herein the Great Lakes region), is there anything anyone would like me to

look upparticularly (yes, I take requests)?  I'm going to look up the few

Crean/Cryans etc. in Co. Mayo on Griffith's just to wrap that up, but

afterthat will look-up whatever.  Just email me ...Happy New Year all, Leslie

From:        "jmitchell" <jmitchell@ameritech.net>Add to Address Book   Date:        Sat, 9 Jan 1999 21:10:02 -0500 Subject:        [CRYAN-L] New Cregan & variations Surname Queries Board

    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Hi,For those of you researching the sounds-like-Cra-gin form of our

surname,please post your queries on my new board.  This board includes any

spellingthat sounds like Cregan including but not limited to Craigen, Cregan,

Creegan,Creighen, Creighan, Cragen, Cragan, Craghan and yes, even Graghan.

http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Cregan

As you probably already know, Roots Web gets more hits than any other

genealogical site.  Consequently, posting here may help you find some

relativesor your 'dead-end' ancestor's lineage!

Thanks,Jo      jmitchell@ameritech.net

 

Reply-To:          "Family History" < >    From:          "Family History" < >Add to Address Book    Date:          Mon, 11 Jan 1999 11:00:02 -0000

  Subject:          [CRYAN-L] Re CRANE/CRAINE      To:          CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Hi Bob,  and other CRANEs

I have found the following which may be of relevance to you. They look

to bechildren of your Patrick Crane born about 1800 (take no notice of the

spelling,as it varies from entry to entry, depending on who is writing

itdown and what they hear)Bridgit CRAIN christened 20 March 1822 at Lochglin RC Co Roscommon

  parents Patrick CRAIN and Mary BERNCatherine CRAIN christened 21 Dec 1824 at Lochglin RC Co Roscommon  parents Patrick CRAIN and Mary BEIRNE

It was the custom to give the paternal grandfather's name to the eldest

sonso that the eldest son of the eldest son of the eldest son all had the

samename. I therefore suggest that the missing brother may haver been named

Patrick. The following could be his children -

John CRANE christened 16 April 1838 at Lochglynn RC Co Roscommon

  parents Patrick CRANE and Atteracta RUSH

Mary CRANE christened 19 Sept 1840 at Lochglynn RC Co Roscommon

  parents Patrick CRANE and Atteracta RUSH

The records for Lochglynn go from 1817 to 1863 but I have no way of

knowingwhat is missing. I have not found any records for John or Martin who I

suspect were born at about 1820 so I therefore suggest that the family

wereliving in another parish until 1822I hope that this is helpfulYours Eve

 

From:        Fatarm@aol.comAdd to Address Book   Date:        Thu, 14 Jan 1999 15:15:19 EST

 Subject:        [CRYAN-L] Registry of Deeds extraction - final sections    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Mary Creaser's Extraction from Registry of Deeds, Final Part, Part 4:

[10]  27 April 1836

(Ref. Vol. 20 No. 218)

 

Between JOHN CRYAN of BOYLE, of the first part, and MARY ANNE CRYAN of

BOYLEof the second, reciting that the Rt. Hon. Lord Viscount Lorton did on

thefirst of October 1822 demise etc. to ROBERT CRYAN part of the lands of

DEERPARK containing 11 acres 2 roods 30 perches situate etc. in the

parish andBarony of BOYLE for the term of the natural life of HENRY FRY, son to

HENRYFRY of FRYBROOK, Esq., or for 21 years, whichever was the longer.

ROBERTCRYAN now dead, said JOHN CRYAN as eldest son and heir entitled to 2

acres orthereabouts of said lands as in the possession of MICHAEL CONLAN, PAT

BRENNAN,and MULLANEY, said JOHN CRYAN for and in consideration of the sum of 32

poundsdid grant etc. unto said MARY ANNE CRYAN etc. the said 2 acres of

DEERPARKwith all rents and profits etc..

[11]  1859

(Ref. Vol. 33 No. 61)

Marriage Settlement between JAMES REILLY of BOYLE, shopkeeper for the

firstpart, MARY ANN CRYAN, widow, and MARY ANN CRYAN, spinster, (daughter),

of thesecond part, and PETER CRYAN M.D., a trustee, of the third part;

100 pounds marriage portion etc. etc.Witnessed by Catholic priest.

[12]  July 1882

MICHAEL CRYAN to P.W. C., farmer of CARROWCRORY, BARONY OF CORRAN, CO.

SLIGO,loan of 100 pounds for land improvement (Landed Property Improvement

Act).

[13]  21 May 1883

PATRICK CRYAN of ARDMOYLE, FRENCHPARK, CO. ROSCOMMON

Loan of 374 pounds for mortgage to purchase.

[14]  20 December 1884

MATHEW [sic] CRYAN tenant farmer of DERNASKEAGH, BARONY OF CORRAN, CO.

SLIGO,loan of 50 pounds.

Witnesses:  REV. PATRICK SCULLY, MATTHEW KILLORAN.

Executed:  BALLYMOTE

 

- - - - - - - -

NOTES RE: ABOVE DEEDS

List of names taken from the Tripartite Deed of Partition, O'Connor

SligoEstate, Sligo 1687:-

Castle Street:  Antony Crean; Tan yard in possession of John Crean.

Old Market Street:  John Crean

High Street:  John Crean

Radcliffe Street:  No Crean, buy Fahy, William Bell, Andrew Lynch (2),

PatrickLynch, merchant, Jas. Gibson, Gregory French etc.

The Crean family of Sligo were linked by marriage to the French and

Lynchfamilies.

Ratcliffe Street has been renamed, buy ran west from Castle Street and

theMarket Cross, (once Bishop Crean's Cross buy now a statue).

In the Elphin Census of 1749, some residents of Sligo Town are:

Caleb and William Bell, glovers and protestants, and their wives, also

ThomasBell and wife.

(Nearby) John Crean, soapboiler and Papist, wife, 2 children under 14,

1 manand 1 woman servant, both papists.

William Crean, cotter and papist, wife, 1 child under 14, 2 over 14.

Laurence Crean, cotter and papist, 1 child under 14.

Martin Crean, yarn merchant, and wife, papists.

 

From:        Fatarm@aol.comAdd to Address Book   Date:        Thu, 14 Jan 1999 15:35:17 EST Subject:

        [CRYAN-L] Fwd: Ballykilcline Reunion 1999    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Content-ID: <0_916346118@inet_out.mail.aol.com.1>

Not only is this research group near where we believe a lot of the

Cryansstarted, but three Cryan siblings in their early twenties (two brothers

and asister) were part of the townland group "removed" from the land.

ThereforeI'm forwarding this message on in case any of you Cryan-types might

link inand were as yet unaware of the society.  - Leslie

P.S.  Please welcome subscriber #48!

 

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From: "Maureen & David Humphreys" <searun@sprintmail.com>

Old-To: "Bally Mail List Maureen" <irl-ballykilcline-l@rootsweb.com>

Subject:  Ballykilcline Reunion 1999

Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 10:28:35 -0800

To: IRL-BALLYKILCLINE-L@rootsweb.com

Resent-From: IRL-BALLYKILCLINE-L@rootsweb.com

X-Mailing-List: <IRL-BALLYKILCLINE-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/70

Location

The Reunion will be held in the cities of Strokestown and Roscommon,

Ireland.DateAugust 6,7,8,9, 1999

Schedule of eventsFriday August 6

The Welcome Home meeting of the Ballykilcline Society will be held at

theAbbey Hotel, in the city of Roscommon. We will meet new friends and

distan=tcousins during 3-6 PM. Maureen and Grahame Rendell, from the Co.

RoscommonFamily History Society, will present a lecture on the history of County

Roscommon and have Irish research material available for us.

Saturday August 7

We will meet early in the morning at the Famine Museum located in

Strokestown. A private conference room will be provided. Our speaker,

Mr.Jim Callery, will tell us the history of the Strokestown estate of the

Mahons and about the Famine Papers held at the Museum. The Famine Museum

staff will provide a wonderful tour of the Museum.

A lunch in the Coffee shop on the premises will be available. Our

speakerwill be Conor MacDermot who will tell us of the prehistoric history of

theland and current formations we should not miss.

After lunch we will walk the Townland of Ballykilcline. Jim Callery and

Conor MacDermot will lead the walk into the surname fields and visit the

Ballykilcline cemetery. A group photo will be taken on Ballykilcline.

Youcan spend the remainder of the day there or return to the Museum for

research.

A No Host dinner in the evening will feature our guest speaker, Robert

Scally, author of =91Out of Hidden Ireland=92. The location is yet to be

determined, but will be a short drive away.

Sunday August 8

An all faith service will be held on Mass Rock, also know as Legan Hill

inthe parish of Kilglass. The entire parish of Kilglass will be joining

us.

Monday August 9th

Genealogy research workshops will be lead by Mary Lee Dunn,

Co-president o=fthe Ballykilcline Society. Details to follow.

Please note:

Although membership in the Ballykilcline Society is encouraged, it is

notrequired for attendance.  A non-refundable Reunion fee, covering the

cost =ofthe three-day event and admission to the Famine Museum is required by

June15, 1999. Space in the conference rooms is very limited. Please notify

us =ifyou plan to attend so that a Ballykilcline Reunion registration form

can b=esent.

The Ballykilcline Society

23486 Heathrow Place NW

Poulsbo, WA 98370

 

Reply-To:          "Family History" < >    From:          "Family History" < >Add to Address Book    Date:          Fri, 15 Jan 1999 09:29:32 -0000

  Subject:          [CRYAN-L] Re CRANE/CRAINE      To:          CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Hi Bob,

Source of the information is LDS Family History Centre

film number (FHL number) 989753      (Lochglynn RC)

and covers the dates 1817- 1835.

These films are nearly all photographs of the original parish documents.

You will be able to look at the film at your local LDS Family History

Centrewhere they are very helpful.

On the original film sponsors/ witnesses are usually also given but

theseare not on my CDs

I am fortunate to have been given for Christmas the recently published

LDSVital Statistics for the British Isles.This set of 5 CDs have a small

selection of information marriages and christenings and after 1864

NationalRegistry information.There are several but not all of the parishes in

Sligo/Roscommon/Mayo area with, joy of joys, a sorting program.

Feed in a name and out come all the possibles. Some spelling variations

arelinked, some are not, so it is as well to note which are linked and to

tryalso the alternatives. This I did for you. I hope that it will cut down

thetime required to read the original. However, I have found in reading the

original that there are several difficulties. The ink is often faded and

does not show on the film or the handwriting is ambiguous/difficult to

read,pages are repeated or missed out........etc But it is still worth

looking,the CD information providing a short cut.

Good luck , I hope that you are able to make further progress. Eve

 

 

   Date:        Sat, 16 Jan 1999 13:11:59 -0500  From:        "Joe j. crogan" <JoeCrogan@compuserve.com>Add to Address Book Subject:        [CRYAN-L] Re Croghan research

    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

I have information on Michael Croghan born circa 1780  in Carrogarve.

I anconfused on who it is I should send this information to.  Please

respons to    joecrogan@compusere.com Thanks

 

From:        "Marie Piper" <cascade@pugetsound.net>Add to Address Book    To:        <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> Subject:        Walsh   Date:        Sun, 17 Jan 1999 00:16:18 -0800

Hi there!

 I'm looking for ancestors of Richard Walsh (stone carver).  He and

Katherine had a son named William Henry Walsh  b.  December 24, 1820,

Ahgevard, County Waterford, Ireland.  William Henry has siblings:  Mary

and Kathleen.  William Henry Walsh came to Massachusetts around 1840.

 I found your information on RootsWeb.   Thank you for your time!

 Marie    cascade@pugetsound.net

From:        Fatarm@aol.comAdd to Address Book   Date:        Wed, 20 Jan 1999 17:46:34 EST

 Subject:        [CRYAN-L] Re: Crogan Q and Temp leave of absence    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Joe, I think you can just post whatever you have/want to share through

thelist.  Sometimes that's how inadvertently connections are discovered.

And foreveryone, a reminder to check out the local ireland pages -- a lot of

newmessages for our various spellings have been posted over the last month

or so.On a personal note, we're going to unplug and pack away our computer

thisweekend for the big move.  So if you don't hear from me for a few

weeks, don'tpanic!  You're in the far more capable hands of Michael for the

interim.  Justremember to be nice -- he wields tremendous power now ...      ;)

Just promise not to post TOO many interesting things to the list while

I'm off... have fun, Leslie (who never wants to see another garbage bag or

moving boxas long as she lives)

From:        Fatarm@aol.comAdd to Address Book   Date:        Wed, 20 Jan 1999 17:49:45 EST

 Subject:        [CRYAN-L] Fwd: ROSCOMMON list message on Boyle churches    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

I thought those of you with known Boyle roots might be interested in the

following, posted to the Co. Roscommon list:

 

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Today's Topics:

  #1 Known Boyle Catholic Churches        ["John Sheerin"

<jsheerin@erols.com]

 

I want to thank several members for their input to me on known Boyle

areaCatholic Churches.

Here's what I have so far:

- Boyle Roman Catholic Parish around 1821,

- Boyle Catholic Church (possibly both the same church)

- St. Joseph's Catholic Church (there today)

also received following:

St. Michael's Catholic Church in Cootehall around 1852.

Can anyone add to or correct this list.  In addition, how about other

Catholic Churches all around the greater Boyle area, to include the

Counties

of Sligo & Leitrim, etc.

I will also send out any new results,Thanks again,Jake Sheerin

Reply-To:          "Family History" < >    From:          "Family History" < >Add to Address Book    Date:          Thu, 21 Jan 1999 14:37:19 -0000

  Subject:          [CRYAN-L] 18c Costume and CRYANskills and talents

      To:          CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

The list is very quiet at the moment. What has happened to everyone?

I do not have particular information but thought that you may like this

extract from a learned tome -from A Hidden Church by Liam Swords  which is about the Diocese of

Achonry1689-1818 this RC diocese includes the southern part of Co Sligoand

part ofCo Mayo 36 miles E to W and 24 N to S

Homewear   Countrymen wore thickset breeches, usually made of frieze or

corduroy, which reached the knees, where it was buttoned at the sides

butmore often left open. Breeches had a central opening, covered by a

fall-downflap which was buttoned up to the waist The better off wore breeches of

animal skin, such as buckskin, doeskin,goatskin or lambskin. the shirt

orundergarment was made of linenand often"composed of shreds and

patches"..................

Women wore a bodice with elbow length sleeves and a wool or quilted

linenpetticoat or skirt which was wide flowing and reached down to the lower

legand often coloured red or green.........Gowns were closed on top

down tothe waist,with skirts that flared from the waist down, revealing the

petticoat. Women and girls wore long red mantles with hoods which they

seldom used and older women wore headscarves of white or coloured linen,

tied beneath the chin, called binnogues(beanog)(with an accent over the

o)In summer .........women....wore muslin bonnets instread of headscarves

andshed their heavy red mantles and exchanged their woollen petticoats for

white or stripped linen skirts. They wore an apron or petticoat, tied

roundtheir necks and falling over their shoulders and down their backs in the

form of a  cape.............

Sunday wear in the 18th century, I will write about at a later date

Good luck to all , please do contribute any titbits like the above. I am

sure everone cancontribute to "how our ancestors lived"

You may be interested, in that it could help others to put together what

their grandparents and greatgrandparents could do, that in going

through mymothers things I find a really skillfully worked magazine box, done with

poker-work and polished so that the background is dark wood and the

patternis of intertwined flowers in paler shades. I also have an elaberate tray

done in the same style with the initials MC intertwined. I was told that

this was made by my grandfather for my grandmother Mary CRYAN. But who

couldhave taught this John CRYAN? It is most likely to have been his father-

bornin Co Sligo.

Do any of you have similar items or skills passed down? Could you write

about them? It could well be a means of connecting families. Or it could

even awaken hidden memories of something in the past.

The above Mary CRYAN nee HARVEY of Liverpool was a very skilled

lacemaker. Ihave numerous crocheted lace mats plus several beautiful linen

tableclothsedged and inset with deep lace which are now 100 years old or nearly.

Theyare truely family treasures. Please unearth your family skills.

Talents are another but unpredictable inheritance and can be related to

family lines. Music, Poetry, other writing,mathematics, philosophy,

sport/athletics are just a few that we can talk about.

My father A John CRYAN sang with what I now know to be a good Irish

tenorvoice, like John Mc Cormack before ww2.(I have just found a beautiful

bookof Irish Ballads which belonged to him - were there some queries about

Irishsongs?) and 2out of 3 of his children sing and are keen to sing ; the

thirdhas a voice but is not keen to sing.And some second cousins that I have

recently made contact with (now they are 85,87 and 90), play the piano

andsing still.What of all you list members? I see that the CRYANs of Boyle had a band

!Do share !Until again Eve

 

From:        "Michael Tobin" <tobinmi@hotmail.com>Add to Address Book Subject:        Re: [CRYAN-L] Re: Crogan Q and Temp leave of absence   Date:        Thu, 21 Jan 1999 11:37:53 PST    To:

        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Leslie,I'm not sure about the "far more capable hands" part, but I'll do my

best when you're away.Everyone,I've been having some PC problems of late and hence was kind of quitein here myself. These problems are solved now.

I likely won't be as active as Leslie but if anyone is experiencing any

problems at all with the list, please do contact me. I promise I won't

abuse the mighty powers that Leslie has granted me and will work for

Liberty, Equality, Fraternity ..... :-)

I'll also keep a watchful eye on other lists and forums for any

potential new recruits to our list, but I'd appreciate any help which

any of you can give in this regard as, while I am in a few lists/forums

here and there, I'm not in as many as Leslie.regardsMichael

From:        "Michael Tobin" <tobinmi@hotmail.com>Add to Address Book   Date:

        Thu, 21 Jan 1999 11:47:15 PST Subject:        [CRYAN-L] Carrick-on-shannon Cryans

    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Eve's comments about the Cryans of Boyle having a band, reminded me of

the Cryans pub in Carrick-on-shannon, which is only 5 or 6 miles from

Boyle (the opposite side to the Sligo side).

They have a page on the Web - http://www.nci.ie/yp/fullpage/y4694.htm

So if you ever are in the area and are looking for a place to sleep,

eat and drink (or any one of these of course), you know where to go.

I was in the pub myself one or two times and its a nice place.regardsMichael

Michael Tobin

http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Ranch/2926/

 

From:        ljstandak@webtv.net (Lyle Staehnke)Add to Address Book   Date:        Thu, 21 Jan 1999 21:53:07 -0800 (PST) Subject:        [CRYAN-L] RE:Cryan Info    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Michael Tobin mentions Cryans pup at Carrick-on Shannon,I was fortunate

enough to have been there,and to have met Francis and Padrik Cryan

(forgive my spelling) and had a wonderful visit and dinner......This

poem I am going to print out,first came to my attention in about

1948,when I was going through some of my grandfathers papers,pictures

etc..I`m sure this was writen before that ,but I`m not sure when...The

author is Michael Cryan........ Where hearts did yearn long and weary,

with cherished love from days of yore,........  For years had passed

without a meeting of these fond hearts that loved so true,.....That now

are clasped in each others arms, awaken passions fresh and new....... My

frame though rough, now did tremble, like a delicate rose in a chilly

blast...When I bent to kiss my wife and child, In passionate tears,

broke down at last..

. Deep and sorrow those joys were lost, when close I stood by fathers

side.... As I saw his eyes bedimed with tears,he said, "My son,I can not

rise"........ My heart at once did cease to throb, I motionless did

stare....At that weak and worn frame, that give up all its worldly

care,.. I grasped that hand so frail and weak, that once was young and

strong,.... That stroked the hair upon my brow, but alas those happy

days have gone...The hand that toiled for many years, through all this

world of care...And bore his burden like a man, while God his health did

spare.. But Oh! That bitter parting, It seemed to hard to bear....When

God he called his soul away, I called my brother near..... Brother John

stood by my side, with bitter cries he said.."Oh God, have mercy on his

soul, Oh Mike, poor Father`s dead,"..That ashen face lay still in death,

no more to cast a smile.. His own dear brother closed his eyes,at the

end of lifes long weary aisle...  So now his soul may live in peace,

with God in Heaven,I Pray..For he done a Fathers duty and never shrank

away.....   Lyle

 

  From:        "Michael Tobin" <tobinmi@hotmail.com>Add to Address Book

   Date:        Tue, 26 Jan 1999 04:22:49 PST Subject:        [CRYAN-L] Fwd: Pre-Post Roman UK (and some Ireland)    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Some of you might be interested in this site. It predates our family

trees I'm afraid, but contains interesting information.

>From GENIRE-L-request@rootsweb.com Thu Jan 21 13:48:42 1999

>From: David Dale <DavidDale1@compuserve.com>

>Subject: Pre-Post Roman UK (and some Ireland)

>>Just thought some may be interested in the earliest mythical/historical

>origins of some native races in the British Isles pre/post Roman

period. My>web site takes a studied look at the earliest races and includes some

very>early Scots/Pictish rulers at

>>http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/DavidDale1/Hisco.htm

 

Date:        Wed, 27 Jan 1999 18:43:09 -0500  From:        "Elaine C. Matthews" raphael57@bellsouth.net>Add to Address Book Subject:        [CRYAN-L] one more time

    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

I hope this works better.

 

Name             Date of Birth                   Date

Baptized                  Sponsors

John              March 1, 1901                 ?

Bridget          September 21, 1902        September 22,

1902             Patrick O'Keeffe and Bridget Slattery

Helena          October 9, 1903               October 12,

1903                 Thomas English and Margaret Mulaney

Denis            October 13, 1904             October 16,

1904                  William Foley and Margaret Reardon

Michael         December 18, 1905          December 21,

1905              Martin Coffey and Catherine Manning

Catherine      February 5, 1908             February 8,

1908                  John O'Keeffe and Catherine Downes

Johanna        May 20, 1909                   May 22,

1909                        John Creamer and Margaret Hogan

Margaret       July 24, 1910                    July 26,

1910                        Patrick Mulcahey and Margaret Hogan

 

From:        "Michael Tobin" <tobinmi@hotmail.com>Add to Address Book   Date:        Sun, 31 Jan 1999 17:54:00 PST Subject:        [CRYAN-L] new Cregan information    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

I'm reposting some details which Elaine, a new subscriber to the list,

posted during the week and which I don't think made it through in full

to the list.

> Hello Everyone,

>> I am new to this and a little nervous about making this post, but here

> goes.  I am looking for information on the Cregan Family of the

> Hospital-Kilteely-Garrynachera area in County Limerick.  My

grandmother> was Bridget Cregan, and she came to the United States in 1926.  I am

> interested in finding out all I can about her family.  I wrote to the

> parish priest at Kilteely (Sts. Patrick and Brigid Church) and he was

> kind enough to send me baptism certificates for my grandmother and her

> siblings.  So following is the information I have so far.  I hope this

> shows up in a readable fashion on your screens.  If it's not legible,

> please let me know, as I can attach this as a Word file.

> Children of Bridget Hogan and Michael Cregan

> Name           Date of Birth                 Date Baptized              Sponsors

> John            1 March 1901                 ?                                     ?

> Bridget         21 September 1902          22 September 1902   

Patrick O'Keeffe & Bridget Slattery

> Helena          9 October 1903               12 October 1903        

Thomas English & Margaret Mulaney

> Denis           13 October 1904              16 October 1904         

William Foley & Margaret Reardon

> Michael        18 December 1905           21 December 1905    

Martin Coffey & Catherine Manning

> Catherine      5 February 1908               8 February 1908       

John O'Keeffe & Catherine Downes

> Johanna        20 May 1909                   22 May  1909           

 John Creamer & Margaret Hogan

> Margaret       24 July 1910                   26 July  1910         

    Patrick Mulcahey & Margaret Hogan

> Thanks for bearing with me.

> Elaine Matthews

> Charlotte, North Carolina

From:        RuthK3834@aol.comAdd to Address Book   Date:        Sun, 31 Jan 1999 23:07:41 EST

 Subject:        [CRYAN-L] RE:Cregan    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

My great grandparents Catherine Cregan nee Fitton and James Cregan were

fromCounty Limerick in Ireland although I have yet to find out exactly

where.  Ihave someone in Ireland trying to find that out for me.  They had four

children Patrick born in 1862 --Ellen (Nellie) born in 1870 also

Michael andCatherine.  They came to the United States in 1892 and settled in

Brooklyn,New York. I do not know if there is a family connection because I do

not knowif James had siblings left in Ireland that would have married and had

children.  I imagine however that there were as not too many Irish

families inthose days had only one child.

 

Reply-To:          "Family History" < >    From:          "Family History" < >Add to Address Book    Date:          Mon, 1 Feb 1999 11:41:08 -0000

  Subject:          [CRYAN-L] Re CREGAN      To:          CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Although my resources are limitied, I have very quickly come up with the

following which should be of use to RuthK3834 as she wrote about James

CREGAN and Catherine nee FITTON

Birth Mary CREGAN - 31 March 1867- in Newcastle, Limerick, Ireland,

CivilRegistration

         parents James CREGAN, Kate FITTON

         FHL number 101154

Birth Michael CREGAN - 28 Sept 1869 - in Newcastle, Co Limerick,

Ireland,

Civil Registration

           parents James CREGAN, Catherine FITTON

           FHL Number 101199

I have no obvious records for Bridget HOGAN and Michael CREGAN who were

having children at about 1900. This Micheal CREGAN must have been born

before 1880 (which wouls make him 20 in 1900) but it is probable that

he wasborn around 1870. I have 9 Michael CREGANs who were born between 1866

and1872 in Co Limerick.6 are from Newcastle !

1   Michael CREGAN born 28 Sept 1866 in Newcastle, Lim.Ire - Civil Reg

                 parents Denis CREGAN, Ellen HANLEY

2  Michael  CREGAN born 8 Jan 1867 in Newcastle,Lim.Ire - Civ Reg

                 parents Con CREGAN, Biddy CASEY

3  Michael CREGAN born 8 Aug 1867 in Bruree, Lim, Ire - Civ Reg

                 parents John CREGAN,Honora HANRIHAN

4  Michael CREGAN born 6 Sept 1867 in Newcastle , Lim, Ire - Civ Reg

                 parents Con CREGAN,Mary CREGAN

5  Michael CREGAN born 26 Dec 1869 in Shanagolden, Lim, Ire - Civ Reg

                parents Patt CREGAN, Bridgit SCANLON

6  Michael CREGAN born 28 Sept 1869 in Newcastle, Lim, Ire - Civ Reg

                parents James CREGAN , Catherine FITTON

7  Michael CREGAN born 17 Dec 1869 in Newcastle, Lim, Ire - Civ Reg

                parents Edmund CREGAN, Mary DALTON

8  Michael CREGAN born 20 Oct 1870 in Newcastle, Lim, Ire - Civ Reg

                 parents John CREGAN , Kate HARNETT

9  Michael CREGAN born 3 Oct 1871 in Shanagolden, Lim, Ire - Civ Reg

                 parents John CREGAN, Johanna FALLIHEE

 

There are some points that I would like to bring to your attention:-

1   I would have thought that Michael CREGAN would have been older than

Bridget HOGAN so that she would have been born nearer to 1880. I do not

haveany Limerick records after about 1872 but I do have Bridget HOGANs

beforethat date (this would make her at least 28 when she had her first child

)2 It would seem possible(though not necessarily so) that the parents of

either Michael or Bridget were John and Bridget - the names of their

firsttwo children. Or perhaps one of the 4 grandparents was John and another

 wasBridget. - it could help with searching for their parents !

I hope that this is helpful. Eve

 Date:        Tue, 2 Feb 1999 04:01:39 -0800 (PST)  From:        Caoimhghin O Croidheain <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>Add to Address Book Subject:        [CRYAN-L] Charles Cryan    To:

        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Hi

The following is a letter (or version of) sent by email to the Bognor

Regis tourism and the Family Record Centre about a week ago. I have

yet to get a reply from either. Has anyone any advice regarding how to

go about  finding information on Charles - particularly those

researchers living in England?Thanks Kevin

 

Dear Sir  or Madam,

I was wondering if you could you help me. I am trying to trace my

father's cousin Charles Cryan. In our last contact with him he said he

was working in a pub in Bognor Regis in the late 70's and early 80's.

He was born on the 14th May 1939. We are still not sure but we think

he might have moved back to London. We believe he died last year (or

1997) and would like to find out if his death was registered and where

he is buried. Would it be possible to get a list of the pubs of Bognor

Regis and the names of popular local newspapers that I could write to

for information or recollections of the local people? He trained as an

actor for a while and may have joined the Paras for a short period. I

know that this is very vague but it came as a shock to us to hear that

he may be dead and we would like to find out any information about his

life.Yours sincerely,Kevin Cryan

 

Reply-To:          "Family History" < >

    From:          "Family History" < >Add to Address Book

    Date:          Wed, 3 Feb 1999 10:33:08 -0000  Subject:          [CRYAN-L] Charles CRYAN

      To:          CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Hi,

It is necessary by law in England to register a death, before the body

isreleased for "disposal" ie burial, cremation, or even transport back to

Ireland or anywhere else. Therefore if he died, he must be registered.

TheFHC in London, from my dealings with them, need all the details and they

will provide a certificate for payment - now £7.50 per certificate(I

think).The application form I have here requires the index number or if one is

unsure about the index number  on the back is a space for other details

likedate of birth(if died after June 1969), place of death, date of

death,etc.Here in England, they do not provide a low cost photocopy as they do in

Dublin.I am also not sure how quickly the books of indexes are put onto the

shelves. If they are there, I will certainly look it up when I next go

toMyddleton place ,as I am planning to in the next month. If there is

only oneCharles Cryan during the period, there is no problem but if more than

one,what can one do?(private e-mail)

All our major libraries here in England have reference sections which

holdtelephone directories and Yellow Pages. I would think that they should

beavailable in Dublin and for England. It would be a good starting point

tolook for information about Bognor Regis. However I think that the

touristoffice will eventually reply with the town brochure which should give

thelocal newspapers and their addresses.

Service records - I am sure that I have seen something about that

somewhere.I will enquire but a good starting place would be to enter "Public

RecordsOffice" into one of the search engines - probably Yahoo or Altavista are

best for this but even better Dogpile which searches all the other

searchengines at http://www.dogpile.com

Will speak to you again Eve

 

Reply-To:          "Family History" < >    From:          "Family History" < >Add to Address Book    Date:          Wed, 3 Feb 1999 11:27:48 -0000  Subject:

          [CRYAN-L] Sites to try      To:          CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

The "Local Ireland" site for Co Roscommon seems to have grown and there

aresome attractive photographs

 do try  http://ireland.iol.ie/~boylecoc/ for the Boyle Chamber of

Commercelinked site  Eve

 

From:        Bognor Regis Town Council <bognortc@arunet.co.uk>Add to Address Book

    To:        "'caoimhghin@yahoo.com'" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> Subject:        Charles Cryan

   Date:        Thu, 4 Feb 1999 16:24:29 -0100

Dear Mr. Cryan,

Thank you for your email.

I have looked through the telephone directory for you as we don't

actually hold lists of this sort of information within the Town Council and have

found a couple of addresses and telephone numbers of local public

houses for you.I have also enclosed the address of the local newspaper below.

I hope this information is of some use to you.

 

The William Hardwicke,

12, High Street,

Bognor Regis, West Sussex. - (01243) 821940

 

Hatters Inn,

2, Queensway,

Bognor Regis, West Sussex. - (01243) 840206

 

The Alex,

56, London Road,

Bognor Regis, West Sussex. - (01243) 863308

 

The Steyne,

1, The Steyne,

Bognor Regis, West Sussex. - (01243) 865972

 

The Bognor Regis Observer (Local Newspaper)

14, Station Road,

Bognor Regis, West Sussex. - (01243) 827111

Yours sincerely,Claire Geary

 

EMIGRANT RECORDS 

  by Brian Bonner Mavrogeorge <Brian_Mavrogeorge@broder.com>

     The Learning Company

Between 1820 and 1860, 20 percent of America's immigrant

population was from Germany, and in the same period the largest

group of new immigrants was Irish. Every step of the way through

the process of immigrating to the United States, and in some

instances to Canada, these people left records and documents. So,

if you know where your gateway ancestor lived before emigrating,

check for information in the "old country" localities.

 

-- At the national level. In order to emigrate, the person may

have had to prove he was released from service to a nobleman

(letter of manumission) or that his military service was

completed. Then he would have to apply for a passport or "permit

to emigrate." These records might have information about birth,

residence, parentage, spouse, and children of the emigrant.

 

-- At the local level. Many people emigrating had to use

baptismal records to prove their identity. The local minister

would issue a certified copy of their baptismal entry with their

name, birthdate/place, baptism date, and their parents' names.

Often the minister entered into the register something like "went

to the New World in 1740" next to their baptismal entry.

Sometimes the emigrants simply received a letter that identified

them as a member of a specific congregation. Estate and property

settlement records in the "old countries" may give information

regarding an emigrant's departure.

 

English court records include names of people who committed

misdemeanor crimes and were sentenced to serve as the indentured

servants of plantation owners and businessmen in the colonies.

These owners and businessmen paid for the servants' passage. Many

of those court records have been abstracted and published.

 

-- At the ports. North American researchers often check passenger

lists for arrivals at U.S. and Canadian ports. But remember that

such lists were created at both ends of the journey. While not

all lists have survived, a search for both can be worthwhile. In

some instances government agents and real estate companies

recruited workers, and they maintained lists and recorded the

location of the lands they would settle. The lists sometimes

contain the emigrant's residence at time of departure, the cost

of the ticket, the name of the person who paid the fare, and the

final destination.

 

According to the Immigration and Naturalization Tutor that

accompanies Ultimate Family Tree <http://www.uftree.com>, there

are more than 3,500 printed emigration sources (and some on

CD-ROM). Use those indices as finding aids and to establish where

your ancestors came from. Then systematically search that

location for the records the emigrants left behind.

HUMOR. We've heard that U.S. current events were noted this way

in a letter to the editor of the Australian newspaper, "The

Sydney Morning Herald":

 

"Thank God we got the convicts and they got the Puritans."

                NEWS AND NOTES FROM ROOTSWEB

 

THE IMMIGRANT SHIP TRANSCRIBERS GUILD (ISTG) IS GROWING BY LEAPS

AND BOUNDS. When the guild began its work on September 16, 1998,

there were 50 volunteers within a week. Now nearly 500 volunteers

are transcribing ship passenger lists that will be posted on the

ISTG Web site. The guild accepts new volunteers on a quarterly

basis. The next group will be accepted in April, 1999, so if you

are interested in joining at that time, please read the FAQ under

Guild Information. More than 300 passenger lists are now posted

at the Web site and new passenger lists are posted weekly.

http://istg.rootsweb.com

 

 

Date:        Wed, 17 Feb 1999 23:21:14, -0500 Subject:        RootsWeb Review, Vol. 2, No. 7

    To:        RootsWeb-Review@rootsweb.com  From:        Julie Case <Julie_Case@rootsweb.com>Add to Address BookROOTSWEB REVIEW: Genealogical Data Cooperative NewsVol. 2, No. 7, 17 February 1999; Circulation: 266,850+ (C) 1998-1999 RootsWeb Genealogical Data Cooperative.

 

Editors: Julia M. Case and Myra Vanderpool Gormley, CG

ISTG <http://istg.rootsweb.com>. Transcriptions of passenger

lists for 404 ships have been uploaded by the Immigrant Ships

Transcribers Guild as of 16 February 1999. Approximately 500

volunteers continue to transcribe lists that will be uploaded as

they are completed. Additional volunteer transcribers will be

accepted on a quarterly basis (see the ISTG FAQs for details).

The passenger lists are searchable by: (1) Date (1600s, 1700s,

1800s, 1900s); (2) Ship's Name (by country, to date including

Belgium, Brazil, Canada, Denmark, England, France, Germany,

Ireland, Italy, Mexico, Netherlands, Nicaragua, Panama, Portugal,

Scotland, Spain, Sweden, Venezuela, Wales, and the West Indies);

(3) Port of Arrival (to date including Baltimore, Maryland;

Canada; Galveston, Texas; Massachusetts; New Orleans, Louisiana;

New York, New York; New Zealand; Philadelphia, Pennsylvania; Port

Jackson, NSW, Australia; Virginia; and Wilmington, North

Carolina); and (4) Surname and Captain's Name.

 

Date:        Mon, 8 Feb 1999 04:57:06 -0800 (PST)  From:        Caoimhghin O Croidheain <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>Add to Address Book Subject:        [CRYAN-L] Leitrim-Cryans

    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

 

Hi

This is a discovery I made going through various links. I give address

for Leitrim page which contains much general info plus a Cryan link

under Leitrim surnames which included the following...

 

http://www.rootsweb.com/~irllet/index.htm

 

http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/Ireland/Leitrim?read=1878

Posted by Jean Rice <jeanrice@cet.com> on Sun, 17 Jan 1999, in

response to Irish Surnames Found In Particular

                    Counties Almost Exclusively, posted by Jean Rice on Sat, 16 Jan 1999

Kevin Cryan of Dublin, Ireland has compiled large databases of Cryan information, according to his article in "Irish Roots" magazine, 1998. His gggrandfather was John Cryan who married Margaret Dolan in Boyle, Co. Roscommon in 1858 and spent his life in Croghan about five miles south of Boyle, working as a National School teacher, (Master Cryan); his death was in 1906. Kevin invites all Cryan families to contact him at 44 St. Columba's Rise, Swords, Co. Dublin, Ireland: e-mail: 94971455@tolka.dcu.ie. Home Number: 01 8403745. Minicall: 1550 177432. He has in his possession a list of all Cryan deaths (in Ireland) since 1864 (when the civil records began) from the Registry of Births, Deaths and Marriages. He has a list of Cryan and variants from Boyle Catholic Registers 1793-1833 (mainly baptisms). He has Memorials of Deeds related to Cryan

and Crean of Counties Roscommon and Sligo 1747-1884. He has Entries for Cryan from Croghan Catholic parish registers 1814-1899 (baptisms) He has famine immigration list (Cryan and variants) arriving at Port of New York 1846-1851. Finally, he has entries for Cryan in valuation lists, Boyle 1858-1871. He states in his article that he would like you to contact him to help him in researching his own family, to exchange Cryan information and material and to evoke an interest in Cryan genealogy and research. He says other good resources are Sligo Heritage and Genealogical Centre, Stephens Street, Sligo, and the Roscommon Heritage and Genealogical Centre, Strokestown, County Roscommon.

More to follow at this Co. Leitrim Queries website -

(Ignore Email address and minicall number) Regards Caoimhghin

 

Hi

Actually I was delighted that you took the time to put the article onto the web page. Could you take out the email address and Minicall number? Iam using caoimhghin@yahoo.com for about a year now and I don’t have the minicall anymore. Also there is the Cryan plus variants mailing list at CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com which would be great to publicise.

Keep up the good work.

Regards,

Kevin Cryan

 

rom:        ljstandak@webtv.net (Lyle Staehnke)Add to Address Book   Date:        Sat, 6 Feb 1999 13:22:03 -0800 (PST) Subject:        [CRYAN-L] RE:Creane-- Crean   To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

For those looking up Creane this could be interresting,and for others if

you return to the home page listed on the bottom of this site..

--WebTV-Mail-1626834185-81

X-URL-Title: http://idt.net/~unatg/cencrean.htm

http://idt.net/~unatg/cencrean.htm

 

Date:        Sun, 07 Feb 1999 11:14:15 -0800    To:        caoimhghin@yahoo.com  From:        Jean Rice <jeanrice@cet.com>Add to Address Book Subject:        Cryans

Dear David, I am so RELIEVED you were angry with me for not checking

withyou first!!!  I have also been trying to connect non-Internet queries in

magazines to Internet genealogists, been posting some Mormon data and

playing "fast and loose" with portions of copyrighted material - have

beenable to successfully help others, but am always worried that I have

takentoo many liberties and gone too far.  I am good advertising for that

wonderful "Irish Roots"  magazine and the information people can obtain

atthe LDS FHCs, so hope I do more good than not!  Jean

 

Date:        Mon, 8 Feb 1999 04:57:06 -0800 (PST)  From:

        Caoimhghin O Croidheain <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>Add to Address Book

 Subject:        [CRYAN-L] Leitrim-Cryans    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Hi

This is a discovery I made going through various links. I give address

for Leitrim page which contains much general info plus a Cryan link

under Leitrim surnames which included the following...

 

http://www.rootsweb.com/~irllet/index.htm

 

http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/Ireland/Leitrim?read=1878

Posted by Jean Rice <jeanrice@cet.com> on Sun, 17 Jan 1999, in

response to Irish Surnames Found In Particular

                    Counties Almost Exclusively, posted by Jean Rice

on Sat, 16 Jan 1999

Kevin Cryan of Dublin, Ireland has compiled large databases of Cryan

information, according to his article in "Irish Roots"

magazine, 1998. His gggrandfather was John Cryan who married Margaret

Dolan in Boyle, Co. Roscommon in 1858 and

spent his life in Croghan about five miles south of Boyle, working as

a National School teacher, (Master Cryan); his death was

in 1906. Kevin invites all Cryan families to contact him at 44 St.

Columba's Rise, Swords, Co. Dublin, Ireland: e-mail:

94971455@tolka.dcu.ie. Home Number: 01 8403745. Minicall: 1550 177432.

He has in his possession a list of all Cryan

deaths (in Ireland) since 1864 (when the civil records began) from the

Registry of Births, Deaths and Marriages. He has a list of

Cryan and variants from Boyle Catholic Registers 1793-1833 (mainly

baptisms). He has Memorials of Deeds related to Cryan

and Crean of Counties Roscommon and Sligo 1747-1884. He has Entries

for Cryan from Croghan Catholic parish registers

1814-1899 (baptisms) He has famine immigration list (Cryan and

variants) arriving at Port of New York 1846-1851. Finally,

he has entries for Cryan in valuation lists, Boyle 1858-1871. He

states in his article that he would like you to contact him to

help him in researching his own family, to exchange Cryan information

and material and to evoke an interest in Cryan genealogy

and research. He says other good resources are Sligo Heritage and

Genealogical Centre, Stephens Street, Sligo, and the

Roscommon Heritage and Genealogical Centre, Strokestown, County

Roscommon.

More to follow at this Co. Leitrim Queries website -(Ignore Email address and minicall number)

Regards Caoimhghin

 

   Date:        Mon, 8 Feb 1999 05:56:43 -0800    To:        caoimhghin@yahoo.com

  From:        queryanswer@SEE.MESSAGE.FOR.ADDRESSAdd to Address Book

 Subject:        Response to Your Leitrim Ireland Queries Post

Leitrim Ireland Queries

A new message, "Cryan Family," was posted by Barbara Keaney Wicks on

Mon,08 Feb 1999  It is a response to your post, "Cryans," of Sun, 07 Feb

1999

This is an automatically-generated notice.  If you wish to respond to

thismessage, please post your response directly to the Leitrim Ireland

Queries:<http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/Ireland/Leitrim>

Thank you!

 

Cryan Family

 Posted by Barbara Keaney Wicks <lb3105@aol.com> on Mon, 08 Feb 1999, in response to Cryans, posted by Kevin                                     Cryan on Sun, 07 Feb 1999

  Surnames: Anne Cryan, James Cryan, Mary Foley Cryan, John Keaney, Margaret Flynn, Francis J Keaney, Anne Keaney

Trying to locate any birth, death, marriage records for the above relatives. I have my Grandmother's birth certificate. Anne

Cryan was born in Boyle, Co. Roscommon, Ireland on April 4, 1869. Her parents were listed as: James Cryan and MaryFoley. Also residing in Boyle, Co. Roscommon.

My grandmother later married: Francis J. Keaney, who was from Riverstown, Co. Sligo. His Parents were John Keaney andMargaret Flynn also from Co. Sligo, Ireland.

 

Date:        Tue, 09 Feb 1999 14:12:26 -0800    To:        Caoimhghin O Croidheain <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>

  From:        Jean Rice <jeanrice@cet.com>Add to Address Book Subject:        Re: Cryans

Hi Kevin, Me again.  Is that you wonderful Irish name above or is it a

phrase?  I'd be interested to know.  I sent an e-mail to the host of the

Co. Leitrim website, Don Kelly.  He said that he is not able to alter

anyinformation in a post, only delete the entire post.  He suggested that

either you or I place another one post connected to it and/or at the

top ofthe Co. Leitrim website, (with Cryan entered in the spot for the Surname

List) with your updated information and news about the Cryan mailing

list.Do you want to do this?  Jean

 

At 05:20 AM 2/8/99 -0800, you wrote:

>Hi

>Actually I was delighted that you took the time to put the article

>onto the web page. Could you take out the email address and Minicall

>number? Iam using caoimhghin@yahoo.com for about a year now and I

>don't have the minicall anymore. Also there is the Cryan plus variants

>mailing list at CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com which would be great to publicise.

>Keep up the good work.

>Regards,

>Kevin Cryan

From:        LB3105@aol.comAdd to Address Book   Date:        Tue, 9 Feb 1999 20:11:45 EST

    To:        caoimhghin@yahoo.com Subject:        Re: cryans

Hi Kevin,

        I am already on the Cryan Mailing List & have started to receive some

e-mailfrom them.  Thanking in advance, for you for sending me the file &

informationabout the Cryan's.  I'm sure there is some facts that I can use in it

          I visited Dublin some years ago.  Fell in love with Ireland on that

trip.Plan to go back again someday.        Looking forward to hearing from you again.

Barbara

 

Date:        Tue, 09 Feb 1999 14:12:26 -0800    To:        Caoimhghin O Croidheain <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>

  From:        Jean Rice <jeanrice@cet.com>Add to Address Book Subject:

        Re: Cryans

Hi Kevin, Me again.  Is that you wonderful Irish name above or is it a

phrase?  I'd be interested to know.  I sent an e-mail to the host of the

Co. Leitrim website, Don Kelly.  He said that he is not able to alter

anyinformation in a post, only delete the entire post.  He suggested that

either you or I place another one post connected to it and/or at the

top ofthe Co. Leitrim website, (with Cryan entered in the spot for the Surname

List) with your updated information and news about the Cryan mailing

list.Do you want to do this?  Jean

 

From:        LB3105@aol.comAdd to Address Book   Date:        Thu, 11 Feb 1999 08:44:11 EST

    To:        caoimhghin@yahoo.com Subject:        Fwd: cryans

Hi Kevin,

        No i did not know that the Cryan's had a seachable Archive List.  I

will tryto find it .        My Grandmother's name was Anne Cryan, b: April 4, 1869 (I do have a

copy ofher birth certificatefrom Dublin, Ireland).

        Her parents:  James Cryan listed as a sailor on her  birth record &

MaryFoley. from Boyle, Co. Roscommon.        I would like to find out more information on James & Mary Cryan. Marriagerecord, birth or babtismal record, death record?  They were from Boyle,

Co.Roscommon & Co. Sligo.  At the time, there residence of information was

listedas Temfleany, Sligo?  Not sure where this is exactly or if I have it

spelledright.  Does it sound famalier to you?          I am looking forward to reciving your text file.  I will download itto mycomputer to research. it.

        How many names do you now have on your data base?  I have 101 most of

themare Keaney's.  My grandmother,  Anne Cryan,  m: Francis J. Keaney, he

was alsofrom Riverstown, Co. Sligo.  On the map of Ireland that I have, the two

towns(Riverstown & Boyle) look fairly close in distance.  They probably grew

uptogether.  I remember my mother telling me that she was his childhood

sweethearts. After my greandfather emmigrated to America in 1884, a

year laterhe sent for Anne and they were married in New York City.

        Thanks again for all of your help.

                Barbara Wicks

 

To:        caoimhghin@yahoo.com   Date:        Fri, 12 Feb 1999 10:36:53 -0600

 Subject:        Searching  From:        Carole C Wagner <cwagner5@juno.com>Add to Address Book

Hi,

I was asked by a gal who got your message re Cryan deaths if I would

write to you since we are both searching for the same ancestor. She

worksand is quite busy. She knows I am retired, but I have more than 8-5

hours. Anyway, that is all just a little humorous aside.

We are searching for a Michael Crehan, born in Ireland, March 5, 1852.

Weknow that his father was also named Michael. Now all this is a real shot

in the dark, because we don't know where in Ireland he was born. Had a

closed mouth family and unfortunately anyone who might have known

something has passed on.I realize you said Cryan, but we are wondering if the name Crehan might

have popped up somewhere. Just have a gut feeling that the spelling was

never changed, but then who knows?Thanks for "listening" and any help if you have it.

Carole Wagner

 

  From:        LB3105@aol.comAdd to Address Book   Date:        Sun, 14 Feb 1999 15:16:57 EST

    To:        caoimhghin@yahoo.com Subject:        I un-zipped the mimi file

H Kevin,        Just wanted you to know that I was able to un-zip the mime.file you

sent.  Ihave really enjoyed reading it. Sure there is a record for my Great

Grandfather's death, James Cryan.         Thanks again for sharing this file with yet another relative.  (From my

research the Keaney's & Cryan's were close families in Boyle.) Thisinformation may be of interest to you in your  research, so I'm passingiton..

A message I recently received from my "Geneagolgy Report".in Salt Lake

City,Utah:

Barbara:

"I checked the birth record of Anne Cryan, b: April 4, 1869 in  our

filmedIrish birthrecords and learned she was born in the townland of Templevaney in the

civil parish of Toomour.  Her father's occupation is tailor.  (Note:  it

is not uncommon for errors to be made in the transcribing of

records--that is why I suggest to clients that they get a photocopy of

anentry rather than a certificate which increases the chance of

transcription errors.)  This area is contained in the Catholic parish of

Drumrat.  The records for this parish begin after the birth of Anne

Cryan.  Ichecked for several years but did not find any other children listed for

James Cryan and Mary Foley (her parents)in the parish baptism records.

Thisarea is quite close to where your Keaney family resided.  I wonder if

thereisn'ta relationship between the families given the fact that there appears to

be an aunt named Mary Cryan in the Keaney family.

I also checked the civil registration marriage indexes from 1864 through

1869 but did not find a marriage record for a couple by this name.

Thereis an entry for a James Cryan in 1868 that I need to check although

therewas no corresponding entry for Mary Foley.  Since the marriage entries

for that parish also began after the birth of Anne and church records

were the source of the civil registration marriage records, it may be

that no marriage record will be found."

Thanks again Kevin.  Let's stay in touch.

        Barbara Keaney Wicks

 

From:        "Michael Tobin" <tobinmi@hotmail.com>Add to Address Book   Date:

        Mon, 15 Feb 1999 11:13:32 PST Subject:        [CRYAN-L] Keash researcher

    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

For those of us who are researching in the Keash area or in the

adjoining Boyle area, I was recently contacted by a John Brehany who is

originally from Keash and who is in the process of setting up a Keash

Website.

His email address is john@brehany.freeserve.co.uk if any of you are

interesting in contacting him. I think that initially his Keash Website

will be mainly dealing with the natural features of the area.

I will post details of the site here in any case, when its available.

John has alot of information on his own Brehany ancestors. What is very

interesting for any of us with Keash connections in this area, is that

John's information on his name goes back to the Cromwellian plantation

when his family were transplanted from Cork to Keash.

This raises the possibility that other families in the area were also

transplanted there, including the many seemingly unrelated families of

Cryans??? Note that John's research doesn't suggest this - I'm just

speculating on it.regardsMichael

 

Reply-To:          "Family History" < >

    From:          "Family History" < >Add to Address Book

    Date:          Mon, 15 Feb 1999 22:54:15 -0000  Subject:          [CRYAN-L] Keash Parish

      To:          CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Thank you Michael, for the information concerning Keash. I have written

concerning Daniel CRYAN of Tully who married Mary BREHANY with Pat

BREHANYand John CRYAN as witnesses.

We will see.Did I reply to you about the Keash Parish records? I took a photocopy of

nearly all the film which is a photograph of the original parish book.

Therefore if it was not on the film (and there are mistakes or

omissions) Ihave no way of knowing what is in the parish book.

Until again - Eve

 

Date:        Tue, 16 Feb 1999 10:10:02 -0800 (PST)  From:        Caoimhghin O Croidheain <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>Add to Address Book Subject:        [CRYAN-L] Ireland

    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Hi

I am sending some sections from my bibliography re.Ireland. Happy

reading....caoimhghin

 

GENEALOGY - LOCAL HISTORY

Begley, Donal F. Irish Genealogy: A Record Finder. Dublin: Heraldic

Artists Ltd, 1987.*

Grehan, Ida. The Dictionary of Irish Family Names. Ranelagh: Roberts

Rinehart Publishers, 1997.#

Grenham, John. Tracing Your Irish Ancestors: The Complete Guide.

Dublin: Gill and Macmillan Ltd., 1992.

Herlihy, Jim. The Royal Irish Constabulary: A Short History and

Genealogical Guide. Dublin: Four Courts Press, 1997.*

MacLysaght, Edward. The Surnames of Ireland. Blackrock: Irish Academic

Press, 1985.*

Mc Ternan, John. Olde Sligoe: Aspects of Town and County over 750

Years. Sligo: Avena Publications, 1995.

Ó Corráin, Donnchadh and Fidelma Maguire. Gaelic Personal Names.

Dublin: The Academy Press, 1981.*

Room, Adrian. A Dictionary of Irish Place Names. Belfast: Appletree

Press Ltd., 1988.*

 

Date:        Thu, 18 Feb 1999 03:35:29 -0800 (PST)  From:        Caoimhghin O Croidheain <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>Add to Address Book Subject:        [CRYAN-L] 1918

    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

HiJust a little taste of my grandfather's diary. He was a WirelessOperator in the Merchant Navy.

Caoimhghin

 

THE DIARY OF  William J. CRYAN 1918

WESTERN OCEAN.

September 27th Friday

13th day of voyage from Norfolk. 36th day of voyage from Demerara.

Weather today cold, strong cold wind and swell. Today in Latitude of

Lands End and about 30 Longitude. Left off cold sea water baths today.

Tonight, wet and cold and very dark. Heavy sea. About 1300 miles from

Liverpool.

 

September 28th Saturday

14th day of voyage from Norfolk. 37th day of voyage from Demerara.

Forenoon, weather cold, hard wind. Afternoon, boat drill. Today in

Latitude of Holyhead, Latitude 52 North and 28 West. Expect to arrive

in Liverpool midnight Thursday next. After Tea, in Sleeping Room. 3rd

and 4th Engineers. Night watch. Midnight supper.

 

September 29th Sunday

15th day of voyage from Norfolk. 38th day of voyage from Demerara.

Forenoon, all quiet. Weather, cold wind but dry. Afternoon, quiet. For

walk up to 3.20. 3.30 pm. Turned in. 5 o'c. Up. After Tea in Sleeping

Room, 3rd and 4th Engineers. 2.10 am. Turned in.

 

September 30th Monday

16th day of voyage from Norfolk. 39th day of voyage from Demerara. .

Morning, beautifully fine. Ship far astern in convoy. 11 am. Well up

in place. Noon, message received by Semaphore from Commodore calling

attention to some ship in convoy using wireless at 9.20 am, ships time

and stating there should be positively no working in convoy.

Afternoon, Cruiser Astern. Semaphoring to all ships in convoy. Orders

all ships to change 8 points to Port. Comes right ahead and signals.

Weather,very cold wind. 3.30. Turned in. 5.30 o'c. Tea. After Tea, in

Sleeping Room. 3rd and 4th Engineers. 8 o'c. On watch. 2 am. Turned in.

 

October 1st Tuesday

17th day of voyage from Norfolk. 40th day of voyage from Demerara.

Morning, wet and cold and windy and fog. Forenoon, on Watch. Convoy of

four large ships pass about seven miles from our convoy. At noon, 250

miles distant from Tory Island. Afternoon, order from Commodore of

Convoy all ships turn around and steer west. Manoeuvring around as

convoy is ahead of position of rendezvous. Strong westerly gale

blowing ship, diving into it forward. Changed around to original

position at 4.30 o'c. Flag message from Commodore that Destroyer

Escort will be up at dawn tomorrow.

 

WESTERN OCEAN. NOW OFF NORTH IRISH COAST.

 

October 2nd Wednesday

18th day of voyage from Norfolk. 41st day of voyage from Demerara. 1

am. Patrol PxO working Valentia and Bunbeg. Very close. Reported it to

Bridge. At dawn, very stormy weather, gale. 1.15 am. 2nd Mate Magee in

W/T Room. Left 1.45 am. 2.30 am. Turned in. 7.45. Up. 8.45. Breakfast.

Morning, fog and mist. Destroyer Escort arrives at Convoy about 9 o'c.

4 Destroyers, 3 others, Patrol Craft. 10 o'c. Weather clear.

Afternoon, weather very fine. Destroyer Escort and Convoy going on OK.

4 o'c. Turned in. 5 o'c. Out. 5.30. Tea. Evening up to 8 o'c, in

Sleeping Cabin. 8.10. On watch. Junior in W/T cabin up to 10 o'c.

10.10 o'c. Loud explosion, Oil Tank 'Arca' next ship to us in Convoy

blows up, oil flames 2 miles long in water.

 

October 3rd Thursday

19th day of voyage from Norfolk. 42nd day of voyage from Demerara.

Turned in about 3.30 am, fully dressed. Out again 7.30 am. Feeling a

bit off after terrible scenes of previous night. Morning, going

through Rathlin Sound. Evening, going through Mull of Galloway. Scotch

coast on one side Irish coast on the other. Midnight, going along by

Isle of Man. 2.30. Turned in.

 

October 4th Friday

20th day of voyage from Norfolk. 43rd day of voyage from Demerara.

Forenoon, now in Irish Sea. 8 o'c. On watch. Expect to arrive in

Mersey at Bar light at 2 o'c. Afternoon, arrived and anchored in

Mersey River near Birkenhead. Busy getting station cleaned up and

making out a/c's. 9 o'c. Left anchorage to go in to dock. 10 o'c.

Night in dock. End of voyage of near 12 weeks, 43 days run from West

Indies. Stayed on board ship until morning, too late to go ashore.

 

Reply-To:          "Family History" < >    From:          "Family History" < >Add to Address Book    Date:          Fri, 19 Feb 1999 00:28:27 -0000

  Subject:          [CRYAN-L] Diary/Log of William CRYAN      To:          CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Thank you for William's descriptions, especially as all my family come

fromLiverpool. At That time my mother would have been about 6 yrs old, her

father was in Palestine in the army "following Lawrence of Arabia" so he

said - meaning ,I think , that they went to the same places after him !!

He used to take us, 30 or so years later, down to the river to watch the

ships anchored in the river waiting for the tide to enable them to float

into the docks because the rise and fall of the tide is about 20 feet.

Wesaw many of the great transatlantic liners and could understand the

emigrants feeling that there was new life and new hope awaiting over the

horizon, to the west.Now there is an excellent maritime museun in one of the old, very old

docks,which I think has lists of people who passed through to emigrate

westwards.

I have just found 8 CRYANs on the Commonwealth War Graves Commission

sitewhich has only been active for a short time - they are the on lt CRYANs

recorded.One is mine I think some of you may find them interesting. .SO WATCH THIS SPACE !

until again Eve

 

Reply-To:          "Family History" < >    From:          "Family History" < >Add to Address Book    Date:          Fri, 19 Feb 1999 11:34:58 -0000

  Subject:          [CRYAN-L] CRYAN,British War Graves      To:          CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

The Commonwealth War Graves Commission call this

                   "  Debt of Honour Register "

CRYAN Henry  - Ordinary Signalman - No P/JA619995 - HMS Moreta, Royal

Navy                   died Thursday 11 April 1946, aged 20

                   son of Patrick and Ellen CRYAN, of St Helens, Lancashire buried in Beirut War Cemetery , Grave Reference/Panel No   9.C.1.

 

CRYAN John - Private - L/2652 - 5th(Royal Irish) Lancers

                   died Thursday 21st June 1917, aged 28,  son of Thonas and Hanoria CRYAN, of Townenane House,Monasteraden, Co Sligo       buried/memoral in Unicorn Cemetery, Vend'Huile (19kms N of St

Quentin)       Grave Reference /Panel no   II.H.3.

 

CRYAN James - Civilian - died Sunday 13 October 1940 aged 74 in

Sheffield Royal Infirmary, Yorkshire (WR)                         injured 29 August 1940, at 27 Hurworth Road

(hishome)       buried in the cemetery of the County Borough Of Sheffield,

Yorkshire(West Riding) Section of the       Civilian War Dead Register.

 

CRYAN Jane - Civilian - died on Thursday 13 March 1941, aged 74.Lived

at 9Pattison Street, Dalmuir,       buried in the cemetery of the Burgh of Clydebank(now part of

Glasgow), section of the Civilian War Dead Register.

 

CRYAN John S - Second Lieutenant,218 Sqdn., Royal Air Force,

  died Monday , 12 August 1918           Buried in /memoral in Zeebrugge Churchyard, Grave Ref/ Panelno201

 

CRYAN Patrick - Private 2679 - 2nd Bn., Irish Guards

                         died Wednesday, 13 September 1916  Commemorated at Theipval Memorial (found on the D75, off themain Bapaume to Albert road (D929))   Grave Reference/ Panel Number  Pier and Face 7 D

 

CRYAN Robert - Private 51325 9th Bn., Royal Scots                         died Thursday 1st August 1918 aged 19

                         son of Catherine CRYAN  of 1377, Maryhill; Rd.,Maryhill, Glasgow

                          and the late John CRYAN            Commemorated  at Soissons Memorial,

            in the town square in Soissons on the left bank of the RiverAisne, 100 kms NE of Paris

            The memorial register is kept in the Maire where it may beconsulted

 

CRYAN Stephen Joseph - Private 3786, 31st Bn., Australian Infantry, AIF

                           died Wednesday 26 September 1917            Commemorated at the Ypres (Menin Gate) Memoral ( to the E of Ypres (now Ieper))             panel no. 7 - 17 - 23 - 25 - 27 - 29 - 31

 

These are the only CRYANs at the site

 

  From:        RuthK3834@aol.comAdd to Address Book   Date:        Sun, 21 Feb 1999 14:16:27 EST

 Subject:        [CRYAN-L] Cregan Family Research    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

I have recently learned that some of my Cregans came from Newcastle in

CountyLimerick.  I have gotten a list of names and birth dates from a friend

inIreland.  He got them from the parish priest in Newcastle.  I thought I

wouldpost them here in case anyone can shed any more light on these folks.

Patrick Cregan born 1857

Catherine Cregan born 1858

Bridget Cregan born 1859

Catherine Cregan born 1862

James Cregan born 1864

Michael Cregan born 1869 ( my great uncle) parents Catherine Fitton and JamesCregan

Morgan Cregan born 1871

John Cregan born 1874

Thomas Cregan born 1876

I am hoping for more details in the future from my friend in Ireland,

butuntil then I thought someone else might have one of these names in thefamilytree.Ruth

 

Reply-To:          "Family History" < >    From:          "Family History" < >Add to Address Book    Date:          Mon, 22 Feb 1999 09:26:07 -0000

  Subject:          [CRYAN-L] Re CREGANs in Limerick      To:          CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Hi Ruth

The LDS Vital Records for the British Isles for Co Limerick has all the

Civil Registrations for the period 1864 - 1874. I have come up with 15ofvarious parents but none after 1869. Perhaps those on your list were not"registered for the nation" but appear in the baptismal registers only

However the following did appear

Mary CREGAN born 31 March 1867 in Newcastle, co Limerick, Ireland

                parents James CREGAN and Kate FITTON

                Civil Registration     FHL number  page 563

Michael CREGAN born 28 Sept 1869 in Newcastle Co Limerick Ireland

                 parents James CREGAN and Catherine FITTON

                 Civil Registration    FHL number page 543

I hope that this is helpfulEve

 

To Pat Kenny Radio Show

Hi A quick note to researcher.Rootsweb.com is an enormous internet site for those interested in genealogy. It has an email mag giving stories of people who have found long-lost relatives.

It has a surname mailing list so people can exchange info on their surnames. I have built up 220 pages of info on my surname (and variations) since Jan 1998.

CONNECTING THROUGH ROOTSWEB. Thanks for sharing your stories.

Recently, I returned to Seattle from a four-day visit in the

Tampa, Florida area with my newly found sister, who was separated

from me when I was five years old, 65 years ago, and whose

daughter, you may recall, found me via the RootsWeb Surname List

on Christmas Day. What a thrill! I believe we hugged and bawled

for at least 15 minutes straight in the airport lobby while the

rest of her family stood all around us and cried, too.

It was a wonderful reunion. Words can hardly do it justice: four

days of catch-up, and I had been worried about what we could talk

about after 66 years! She finally has her correct birthdate. She

had lots of trouble with Social Security and driver's licenses

because she did not know it and so she could not get a copy of a

birth certificate. I filled her in on all the things I have

learned about our family from my search, mainly via RootsWeb

Lists and the Family History Centers. Other than the total

disappearance of any record of our mother, the only area that

remains a mystery is when, and from where in Hungary, our

grandparents immigrated. So the search will continue but now it

will be sweet work.Again, thank you and all the RootsWeb folks for being God's

instruments in this case.

 

From:        Fatarm@aol.comAdd to Address Book   Date:        Mon, 22 Feb 1999 18:17:27 EST

 Subject:        [CRYAN-L] Fwd: SD records.    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

I'm not really back yet, this is just a figment of my imagination ...

But I know we have two Dakota researchers, and I thought you should

know....Leslie (I'll be really back in a day or two at most)

Return-Path: <IRL-BALLYKILCLINE-L-request@rootsweb.com>

From: "Maureen & David Humphreys" <searun@sprintmail.com>

Old-To: "Bally Mail List Maureen" <irl-ballykilcline-l@rootsweb.com>

Subject: SD records.Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 20:54:50 -0800

This was sent to me, and I am passing it on

For all you folks looking for births in SD [South Dakota], they now have 100 years on

line the records giving name, parents and certificate #, sex and dates.

Go to the URL below... just fill in last name and all those name will

come up and you might find more children in a family that way or you can

just put first and last name.  I put in my surname and got a 2nd family

of children I didn't know about.  Hope this helps some one..pass it on.

http://www.state.sd.us/doh/vitalrec/birthrecords/index.cfm

Maureen

 

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information from unidentified original or secondary sources? This

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the Internet by someone other than the original creator.

 

From:        "Cook, Jonathan A (HUK)" <cookja3@texaco.com>Add to Address Book   Date:

        Thu, 25 Feb 1999 07:40:17 -0600 Subject:        [CRYAN-L] CRYAN CREAN CRAIAN

    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Forms of the Gaelic O'Croidhein Irish letters CRAIDAIN, an old Irish

tribeunder the O'Connor of Connaught.  Dispossessed at the Cromwellian

settlementand settled in Ballymote - Boyle area.

In the British Museum you will find a map of Ireland (in English) dated

1599by Baptista Boazio and copies are on sale in London, published by John

Sudbury.

This map of Ireland, very distorted, is of course pre-Cromwellian i.e.

before we were consigned "to h - or to Connaught", it shows the CRYNE

familyon the right bank of the River Foyle (as it flows to the sea).

The area could be in the modern County Tyrone.  A few Cryan families

havesaid that it is family tradition that they originated in County Tyrone,

andthat after the Cromwellian plantation we found ourselves in Connacht

(modernspelling).

But the existence of the O'Craian Tomb in Sligo Abbey proves that we

musthave been in Sligo a long time before Cromwell arrived in Ireland.

Patrick Cryans

 

 Reply-To:          "Family History" < >    From:          "Family History" < >Add to Address Book    Date:          Thu, 25 Feb 1999 14:02:18 -0000

  Subject:          [CRYAN-L] CRYAN reassment      To:          CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Hi everyone,

All is very quiet on the list. I hope that you have all been workingfor,rather that waiting for, enlightenment.

I still have not found where my family came from. The favoured parish was Keashe with its plethora of John CRYANs but I did not find John andDanielCRYAN , who I am beginning to think of as twins, born in 1843/4.

However now having collected more English CRYAN deaths ,I have foundtheirdeaths and await the certificates.I have not found their father anywhere and now think that he may haveremained in Ireland; but I have found several likely candidates in theIrishBMD Register indexes, who are of the right sort of age. It means I havetolook at other places, although they are not far from Keashe - about 6

miles.As I think that I have said before, the LDS Vital Record of the BritishIsles, has among others ALL the parish records for Boyle , whichfortunatelyI had only just started transcribing. If anyone is interested.

Appropos of nothing - does anyone know anything about the town ofTobercurry? I will eventually look it up in the Parliamentary Gazeteerfor1843 but access is not frequent.There are a fair number of CRYANs registered in Tobercurry, Carrick onShannon, Strokestown and Manorhamilton as well as Boyle , Castlereaghetc .All these registration districts abut each other !!!Happy hunting,Until again, Eve

 

From:        Crogmos@aol.comAdd to Address Book   Date:        Thu, 25 Feb 1999 18:10:10 EST

 Subject:        [CRYAN-L] Maps of Ireland    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Those of you who need old maps of Ireland might like to know about the

copiesof 1" Victorian maps that can be obtained from Rallymaps of West Wellow

e-mail: mike@rallymap.demon.co.uk    web address  www.rallymap.demon.uk/

The maps are very good and show parish boundaries. Nearly the whole of

Irelandis covered.They are £4.50 each, but it is possible to order from

overseasusing credit cards. All the information needed to identify the sheet

neededand how to pay is on the web page.  I have just received the details of

thegathering at Ballykilcline and decided to go, I hope some other

Croghans willbe there. Regards from Pat Moseley

 

From:        "Michael Tobin" <tobinmi@hotmail.com>Add to Address Book   Date:        Fri, 26 Feb 1999 00:41:02 PST Subject:        [CRYAN-L] Tubbercurry    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Eve

>Appropos of nothing - does anyone know anything about the town of

>Tobercurry? I will eventually look it up in the Parliamentary Gazeteer

for 1843 but access is not frequent.>There are a fair number of CRYANs registered in Tobercurry, Carrick

>on Shannon, Strokestown and Manorhamilton as well as Boyle , >Castlereagh

etc .Tubbercurry is the next parish in Sligo to my home parish Tourlestrane/Kilmactigue and is about 2 miles from my parents house.Its about 20 miles from Sligo town in a south-west direction and about

10 miles (I think) from Ballymote in a westerly direction. As you know,

Keash is about 2 miles from Ballymote in a south-east direction, on the

way from Ballymote to Boyle. Carrick-on-Shannon is a few miles the far

side of Boyle and is in Co. Limerick.

3 siblings of my g-grandmother Mary Anne Cryan, moved to Tubbercurry

from Keash. Their names were Martin Cryan  (1883:1921) , Harry/Henry

Cryan  (1887:1962) and Nora Cryan  (1896:1968). Martin didn't marry,

Harry did but has no descendants of the name Cryan and Nora married a

Jack Brennan from Tubbercurry.To my knowledge, there are no Cryans living in the Tubbercurry area now.

Hope this helps.Michael

 

 Reply-To:          "Family History" < >    From:          "Family History" < >Add to Address Book    Date:          Fri, 26 Feb 1999 12:03:38 -0000

  Subject:          [CRYAN-L] Re CRYAN/FOLEY      To:          CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Hi Barbara, I have found your Anne CRYAN , same date and same parents.

Being a least 18 at this birth the parents must have been born before 1850 and

Mary FOLEY after about 1835 or she would be quite old to have

children.Thereare 4 possible James CRYANs

1 James CRYAN born 3 Sept 1837 ,Boyle RC

              parents Patrick CRYAN and Mary MARTIN

2. James            born 20 Nov 1842, Boyle Rc

              parents John CRYAN and Catherine DRURY

3.  James           born 30 Jul 1845, Boyle RC

              parents Michael CRYAN and Rosa HEALY

4.  James           born 10 May 1848, Boyle RC

              parents John CRYAN and Mary HARRINGTON

 

There are 6 possible Mary FOLEYs but only one in Boyle

    Mary FOLEY born 7 July 1839 , Boyle

             parents James FOLEY and Brigid FOLEY

The others are from Taunagh in Co Sligo,Loughglynn in Co Roscommon(3)

andArdcarn and Tuamna in Co Roscommon.

I can not find a marriage for James and Mary but if she were from

somewhereother than Boyle it is more likely to have taken place in the bride's

parish. The marriage records on the CDs are very sparse - i CD for

marriages,4 for births.I hope that this is helpful, Eve

 

 Reply-To:          "Family History" < >    From:          "Family History" < >Add to Address Book  Subject:          Re: [CRYAN-L] CRYAN reassment

    Date:          Fri, 26 Feb 1999 12:07:05 -0000      To:          CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

I am sorry Barbara but I seem to have got the sums wrong re ages ,

howeverit does not alter the data. Eve

-----Original Message-----

From: LB3105@aol.com <LB3105@aol.com>

To:   < >

Date: 25 February 1999 14:52

Subject: Re: [CRYAN-L] CRYAN reassment

>Hi Eve,> I am on your CRYAN mailing list to date.  I have so little

information on>this side of my family.> I am researching James CRYAN, from Boyle, Co. Roscommon (b:1839?). He was>the father of my Grandmother, Anne CRYAN, who was born April 4, 1869.

Her>birth certificate says she was born in Boyle also. I would love tofind a>record of James Cryan's birth,  or his marriage to Mary FOLEY, assumingthey>are in the records of Boyle.  I would appreciate any and all help youcould>give me.>Thank you,>Barbara

 

 Reply-To:          "Family History" < >    From:          "Family History" < >Add to Address Book    Date:          Fri, 26 Feb 1999 12:36:13 -0000

  Subject:          [CRYAN-L] Re Tubbercurry etc      To:          CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Thank you so much Michael, I seem to be following you around !

The reason for asking is that if my John CRYAN stayed in Ireland he may

havedied in Tubbercurry as there are several likely candidates after 1872

of thecorrect age.ie born before 1823.

At a marriage in 1872 he gave his occupation as " tobacconist " which I

nowsuspect is  "one who owns a tobacco shop". Could that have been in

Tubbercurry ? Are there any old Trade Directories for the town eg

Slater'sTrade Directory ? He was described as "tobacconist" on both marriage

certificates that I possess fron 1867 and 1872. I suppose the next step

isparish registers or the certificates of death !!!!

Best wishes  kindred CRYAN spirits, Eve

 

  From:        Fatarm@aol.comAdd to Address Book   Date:        Fri, 26 Feb 1999 10:26:00 EST

    To:        caoimhghin@yahoo.com Subject:        Re: Re: [CRYAN-L] Ireland 3

But of course!  Okay, I'm pretty sure I've got the Croghans in my dbase, so it's easy

enoughto pull it out and slap it onto an email ... give me a day or so tosend it onto you ... Leslie

 

From:        Fatarm@aol.comAdd to Address Book   Date:        Fri, 26 Feb 1999 10:45:55 EST

 Subject:        [CRYAN-L] Bits ...    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Patrick - I, too, remember reading about Co. Tyrone and Cromwell's

famousdeclaration ... I think Caoimhghin is right when he suggests that we

all needto track down a bunch more of the 18th c. folks to try and get a better

ideaof links back to the tumultous 17th c. 

Pat - I'm so glad I know someone who is going to attend the

Ballykilclinereunion.  It sounds marvelous!  There are a couple of Croghan and Cryan

namesassociated with the research being done by that society -- are you

connected?I've been keeping them in the back of my mind, not because of

connection butbecause for whomever is connected, so much information is available

throughthe society.  Besides the very interesting idea of becoming

penpals/friendswith the descendants of one's ancestors' neighbors ...

Barbara -- your dates are very interesting to me because of my own

Robert'sbirth c. 1840-1 ... but I don't have a location as yet for his early

life.What did James do?  Where did Anne live?  What other information do you

haveon them?  I'd be interested to learn ... especially if you have info on

siblings of James or Anne (names particularly).Best wishes on your hunts, Leslie

 

 

From:        LB3105@aol.comAdd to Address Book   Date:        Fri, 26 Feb 1999 12:54:20 EST

 Subject:        [CRYAN-L] Fwd: Cryan & Keaney Families    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

In a message dated 2/26/99 9:14:22 AM Pacific Standard Time, LB3105

writes:<< Subj:        Re: Cryan & Keaney Families

 Date:  2/26/99 9:14:22 AM Pacific Standard Time

 From:  LB3105 To:    Fatarm, 

  Hi Leslie & Eve,

         Thanks,  Eve, for the information on James CRYAN,  now I don't know

whichone he is?  Same with Mary FOLEY.  Boy!   this sure gets confusing! 

         I do have some information that may be helpful to  you.  So here

goes....

 A lady (researcher) in Salt Lake City, Utah, found the record of Anne

CRYANin the Irish Birth records.  She was born April 4, 1869, in the

townland ofTemplevaney, in the civil parish of Toomour.  Her parents were James

CRYAN &Mary FOLEY. They must have been living close to Boyle at the time of

Anne'sbirth. I have a copy of her birth Certificate.

         Her father, James CRYAN, occupation was listed as a tailor. He was

married to Mary FOLEY.  This area is contained in the Catholic parish of

Drumrat.  The records for this parish begin after the birth of Anne.(My Grandmother)

No other children or Baptismal records were found for children born to

James CRYAN & Mary FOLEY at that parish in Drumrat. (Boyle?)  They must have

movedor something?  James reported her birth.

         The other name I am researching,  which may be of interst to

someone,  isKEANEY/KEANY/KENNE.  There is a relationship between the two families,

giventhe fact that there appears to be an aunt named Mary CRYAN.  Her is the

connection: 

        The British Vital Records index included a birth entry for a daughter

of John Kenny and Margaret Flynn, namely Honor Kenny, who was born Sept.

30,1870, in the townland of Treen, Co. Sligo. The informant was,  Mary

CRYAN, anaunt, who also  lived in Treen, Co. Sligo.  So there was at least one

CRYANliving in the townland of Treen, Co. Sligo  in 1870.

          My Grandfather was Francis J. KEANEY, b: 1861.His parents were John

KEANEY& Margaret FLYNN.        Hope this helps you,                 Barbara

 

From:        Voltene@aol.comAdd to Address Book   Date:        Sun, 28 Feb 1999 16:34:09 EST

 Subject:        [CRYAN-L] CRYANs in Lowell, MA    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Hello,       Anyone researching CRYANs in Lowell, MA?

       If so, I have obituaries for all CRYANs buried in cemeteries in

Lowell 1895 - 1995.       Give me a name and timeperiod person died, and I can e-mail the

obit.       I also go to the Lowell Library local history room Monday andThursday

nights. If   anyone might   need  something  looked up,   please let meknow.

Will be glad to do it.Karen Murphy

 

 

From:        RuthK3834@aol.comAdd to Address Book   Date:        Mon, 1 Mar 1999 19:15:53 EST

 Subject:       [CRYAN-L] Great Success   To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

I have found my Cregans in Newcastle West.  Turns out my

great-grandparentshad 10 children.  I only knew about four of them!  

My ggrandparents were James Cregan and Catherine FittonTheir children were:

Patrick Catherine Bridget Catherine ( we don't understand there being two, but the birth dates are different

James Michael Morgan John  Thomas

I still do not know who came to the US and who stayed, but I will

continue to try and find out.  This has been an exciting day and I just had to let

you all know. Ruth

 

   Date:        Tue, 2 Mar 1999 02:33:46 -0800 (PST)  From:        Caoimhghin O Croidheain <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>Add to Address Book Subject:        [CRYAN-L] general    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Ruth I think that a second child is given a similar name to a previous

child as the first of the name died. One reason for this was possibly

the strength of the naming patterns in Irish families whereby ultimate

respect for a grandparent was denoted by naming a child after him or

her.

Lleslie

The last 20 or so names were taken down by hand on 4 different pieces

of paper and might be difficult to put together. I cant remember which

way I photocopied them for you but let me know and we can sort it out...

Thanks

Caoimhghin

 

 

  From:        RuthK3834@aol.comAdd to Address Book   Date:        Tue, 2 Mar 1999 11:05:29 EST Subject:        [CRYAN-L] Finding my Cregans    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Actually I got the first clue by posting to the Cregan surname list.

When Ifound my Great Uncle Michael from information sent to me as a result of

thatpost was when all the great finding began.  I have a friend in Ireland

and hewent to the parish in Newcastle West to speak with the pastor of the

churchthere.  I then found all the Cregan kids and some of the Fittons aswell.  Ruth

 

  From:        RuthK3834@aol.comAdd to Address Book   Date:        Tue, 2 Mar 1999 15:28:53 EST Subject:        [CRYAN-L] Newcastle West    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Would anyone who might have access to the telephone directory for this

area ofIreland be willing to e-mail me all the Cregans and Fittons and their

addresses?  I have found that all of my family came from there

including mygrandmother and all nine of her siblings.  I would like to write to see

ifanyone there is alive and part of my family.Any help will be gratefully appreciated.

Thanks,Ruth

 

  From:        RuthK3834@aol.comAdd to Address Book   Date:        Tue, 2 Mar 1999 15:31:13 EST

 Subject:        [CRYAN-L] Apology    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

To whomever I got the message from about the list of photocopied Cregan

namesI apologize for not remembering it.  I went through the file and found

it, butcannot make head nor tails from it.  Perhaps that is why it slipped my

mind.I am truly sorry for the oversight. Must be the age!Ruth

 

From:        Fatarm@aol.comAdd to Address Book   Date:        Tue, 9 Mar 1999 12:44:19 EST

 Subject:        [CRYAN-L] Fwd: Survey of performance of the Irish Heritage Centers    To:

        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

I thought some of you Roscommon researchers might be interested in the

mixedreviews below.  To expect the world is great:  to actually get it,

magnificent!

 

Return-Path: <IRL-BALLYKILCLINE-L-request@rootsweb.com>

Resent-Date: Sat, 6 Mar 1999 11:13:57 -0800 (PST)

From: MaryLDunn@aol.com

Hi,

=09FYI. You all may be interested to see the results of The Irish

Ancestra=lResearch Association's (TIARA's) survey of the performance of the Irish

Heritage Centers. There's a link to it from the web site of The Irish

At H=omeand Abroad at www.ihaonline.com.

=09Below are specific comments about the Roscommon Center. But there's

muc=h moreat the site above.=09Mary Lee Dunn

Roscommon Heritage & Genealogy

=95Sent inquiry (and check) to Roscommon Centre; and having no response

for months went there in person while in Ireland. They said they had

put all the mail inquiries away to attend to at the end of the tourist

season. Lots of personality and glad hands, but I had a feeling it was

just a summer job for young students - there were quilts etc. for sale

there. Very sweet folks, but it didn't seem like an historical research

operation. They did send their results (nil) a couple of months later.

My opinion may be colored by the fact that I had no "finds" in

Roscommon. [Survey 10003]

=95My experience with the Co. Roscommon Heritage Society was wonderful.

Not only did the researcher find my great-grandmother's baptism, she

also found the baptisms of her siblings as well as the marriage of her

parents and her oldest brother. The researcher also suggested I contact

the local post office in Boyle to see if any relatives still lived in

the area. This suggestion paid off greatly - I found a first cousin of

my grandmother still living in Garrow, Boyle. We have been

corresponding ever since. She in turn gave me a lot of information as well as

addresses of my relatives living in the U.S., Ireland and England. I

would definitely communicate with this researcher again when time

allows. [Survey 10022]

=95The whole process took from March 7 to November 12, 1997 (and

several prodding letters) to get the report. I was pleased with what I received

however. [Survey 10037]

=95My dealings with Roscommon have been extremely slow and not

thorough. I=found one civil birth registration myself through the local family

History Center (LDS) after I had been told that no records existed.

Only after I reported this back to Roscommon did they locate a marriage and

baptism Catholic church record. [Survey 10046]

=95After receiving word that my check to the Roscommon Heritage Center

had=been received, I waited for seven months for word from them; there was

none. Finally, I wrote them somewhat strong letter asking when I could

expect to hear the results of their search. Within a month I received

word that they had nothing to report. (I wonder if I'd still be

waiting, had I not written that second letter.) If they are going to continue to

offer their services in the genealogical research business - charging

the prices that they do, then they ought to fine tune their procedures

and hire more knowledgeable people to reduce the waiting period.[Survey 10073]

=95Regarding the "timely' question, it took 12 weeks for the initial

search and another 12 to get the results. I called twice since I was

going to Roscommon and was anxious to have the results for my visit. I

believe that they were working as fast as they could but not as fast as

this Yank wanted. So timely is in the mind of the requestor. Originally

my request was sent to South Mayo and they responded very quickly that

my family was Roscommon. It then took Roscommon 12 weeks to find out

what Mayo found out in about 1 week. I would pay a fee for access but

since I live in the U.S I would not be able to visit the center. I rely

heavily on the LDS church.[Survey 10108]

=95Roscommon: They were helpful and I have no serious complaints. They

even helped me get into contact with some people living in my ancestral

townland. My only complaints are: 1) that the records which were

searched were not listed; and, 2) that I wanted to do a one-name study

of a very rare surname and even obtained permission of the RC bishop to

release the sacramental records. The Centre still refused to help,

stating that the search had to be limited to a specific family.

Obviously, this policy is frustrating to me, since the bishop's

permission removed the only legal obstacle. The other complaint is that

it would be desirable to obtain copies of the original register

entries, not just a modern transcription. It's customary in genealogy research,

where feasible, to provide a xerox of the original. Again, I'm

satisfied otherwise, and this centre was the best of the three that I have

commissioned. [Survey 10148]

=95Requested information in February 98 and still no answer (Sept. 98).

The Roscommon Centre seems to take your money and you never hear from

them again. [Survey 10153]

=95We were in the Roscommon Heritage Center once and the woman

basically said it was a waste of money to have research done there. She said

their records were poor and they didn't have much time. [Survey 10143]

=95Check and Roscommon Heritage form completed and sent March 3, 1998.

Check deposited in Bank of Ireland March 31, 1998. To date (Sept. 17

1998), no reply of any kind received. Asked for information on Edward

Mulrenan born about 1861 married Bridget Beirne 1888. [Survey 10156]

=95I paid the $52.24 on May 29, 1998. I visited the Strokestown

Heritage Center at the end of August 1998. I was told on this face to face visit

that I would have to wait at least 9 months more before I received a

reply. This center should be closed down. If they only have 1

researcher, they should be forced to hire more researchers. Why is our

money being taken for so long without any results? This is an

unacceptable way to do business. I was told about the 9 months,

standing right in front of the receptionist in Strokestown itself.

Unbelievable... [Survey 10158]

=95As a result of my contacts with Roscommon Heritage, I was able to

contact my mother's cousin 4 years ago (she was 75 years old). My

mother knows almost nothing about her mother's family except county and

parents' names. I was so grateful. [Survey 10167]

=95Very helpful. Got a lot of information, clearly set out and on

quality paper! I would recommend it highly. [Survey 10173]

=95If I had been told what sources had been searched I would have been

satisfied with the work done. Instead I was told that there was no

occurrence of the name in their records. This, to me, is unacceptable,

for someone who is being paid to do research for you. [Survey 10181]

 

Date:   Thursday, December 3, 1998 8:16:22 PMFrom:        Fatarm@aol.comSubj:    [CRYAN-L] Croghan (and variations) Birth Indexfrom registersTo:     CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

>From Mary Creaser's research

again, folks, via Caoimhghin.  I'm not certainwhat registers are

featured -- Caoimhghin, can you shed any light?  At anyrate, please

let us all know if you find something interesting in thebelow,everyone!

* * * * * * * * * * * * *

Birth Date      Surname First

Name    Townland        Dad's Surname   Dad's First     Mom's

Surname Mom's

First   Notes   Source Page No. Source Line

No.     Source

 

21/10/1814      Cryan   Mary     -

        Cryan   Eugene  Higgins Mary    Register 1, page

66      1       1       Cryan/Crohan Birth

Index

25/09/1814      Cryan   Brigid   -

        Cryan   Eugene  McDermot

(McDermott?)    Deborah Register 1, page

66      1       2       Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

30/09/1823      Crens   Mary     -

        Crens   Eugene  McDermott (McDermot?)   Deborah Register

1, page

155     1       3       Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

27/10/1828      Crian   Anne     -

        Crian   Eugene  McDermott       Elizabeth       Register 1, page

204     1       4       Cryan/Crohan

Birth Index

12/04/1839      Cryan   Catherine        -

        Cryan   James   Flanagan        Anne    Register 2, page

127     1       5       Cryan/Crohan Birth

Index

18/09/1841      Cryan   Thomas   -      Cryan   James   Flanagan        Anne    Register 2,

page

174     1       6       Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

07/07/1844      Cryan   Anne     -

        Cryan   James   Flanagan        Anne    Register 2, page

230     1       7       Cryan/Crohan Birth

Index

04/11/1815

(?)     Cryan   James   Knockroe        Cryan   James   Lowe    Mary    Register 1,

page

68      1       8       Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

01/02/1831      Crien   John     -

        Crien   John    Byrne   Brigid  Register 1, page

212     1       9       Cryan/Crohan Birth

Index

29/06/1867      Cryan   Margaret        Cararea Cryan   John    Canning Catherine       Register 3,

page 18 1       10      Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

08/06/1851      Cryan   Brigid   -      Cryan   John    Carny   Honor   Register

MF      1       11      Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

07/06/1853      Cryan   Peter    -      Cryan   John    Carny   Honor   Register

MF      1       12      Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

10/07/1854      Cryan   Mary     -      Cryan   John    Carney (Carny?) Honor   Register

MF      1       13      Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

04/09/1855      Cryan   Catherine        -      Cryan   John    Carney (Carny?) Honor   Register

MF      1       14      Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

14/12/1856      Cryan   Patrick  -      Cryan   John    Carney (Carny?) Honor   Register

MF      1       15      Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

28/04/1858      Cryan   Winifred         -      Cryan   John    Carny   Honor   Register

MF      1       16      Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

08/01/1860      Cryan   John     -      Cryan   John    Carny   Honor   Register MF     1       17      Cryan/Crohan

Birth Index

16/08/1863      Cryan   Sarah    -      Cryan   John    Carny   Honor   Register

MF      1       18      Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

09/07/1865      Cryan   Honor   Carrana (Caranagh?)     Cryan   John    Carny   Honor   Register 3,

page 4  1       19      Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

02/09/1871      Cryan   Luke    Caranagh        Cryan   John    Carny   Honor   Register 3, page

44      1       20      Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

09/08/1874      Cryan   Michael Carrowreagh     Cryan   John    Carney (Carny?) Honor   Register

3, page 61      1       21      Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

17/11/1861      Cryane  Martin   -      Cryane  John    Carny   Mary    Register

MF      1       22      Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

17/06/1860      Cryan   Brigid   -      Cryan   John    Corcoran        Mary    Register

MF      1       23      Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

10/07/1863      Cryan   Catherine        -      Cryan   John    Corcoran        Mary    Register

MF      1       24      Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

09/10/1859      Cryan   Mary Jane        -      Cryan   John    Dolan   Margaret        Register

MF      1       25      Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

18/11/1861      Cryane  John     -      Cryane  John    Dolan   Margaret        Register

MF      1       26      Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

13/02/1864      Cryan   Joseph   -      Cryan   John    Dolan   Margaret        Register

MF      1       27      Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

18/05/1866      Cryan   James   Croghan Cryan   John    Dolan   Margaret        Register 3, page

11      1       28      Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

08/08/1868      Cryan   Catherine       Croghan Cryan   John    Dolan   Margaret        Register 3, page

25      1       29      Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

27/12/1870      Cryan   Stephen Croghan Cryan   John    Dolan   Margaret        Register 3, page

99      1       30      Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

15/06/1876      Cryan   John    Croghan Cryan   John    Dolan   Margaret        Register 3, page

71      1       31      Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

10/08/1882      Cryan   Brigid  Croghan Cryan   John    Dolan   Margaret        Register 3, page

99      1       32      Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

17/03/1874      Cryan   Margaret Anne   Croghan Cryan   John    Donlon

(Dolan?)        Margaret        Register 3, page 59     1       33      Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

27/02/1831      Crien   Patrick  -      Crien   John    McDrury Catherine       Register 1, page

219     1       34      Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

19/03/1822      Crine   John     -      Crine   John    Fairly  Catherine       Register 1, page

197     1       35      Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

02/01/1827      Crine   Thomas   -      Crine   John    Fairly  Catherine       Register 1, page

181     1       36      Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

14/02/1830      Crine   Michael  -      Crine   John    Farely  Catherine       Register 1, page

207     1       37      Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

21/02/1836      Croghan Brigid   -      Croghan James   McDermott       Margaret        Register 2,

page 62 2       1       Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

09/12/1838      Croughan        Eleanor  -      Croughan        James   McDermott       Margaret        Register 2,

page 119        2       2       Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

24/10/1830      Croghan Catherine        -      Croghan James   Travers Catherine

(Winifred?)     Register 1, page 212    2       3       Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

22/07/1832      Croghan Winifred         -      Croghan James   Travers Winifred        Register 1,

page 222        2       4       Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

12/03/1835      Croghan John     -      Croghan James   Travers Winifred        Register 2, page

40      2       5       Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

30/01/1837      Croghan Michael  -      Croghan James   Travers Winifred        Register 2, page

82      2       6       Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

24/04/1839      Croghan James    -      Croghan James   Travers Winifred        Register 2, page

127     2       7       Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

26/01/1841      Croghan John     -      Croghan James   Travers Winifred        Register 2, page

160     2       8       Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

02/06/1843      Croughan (Croghan?)     Thomas   -      Croughan

(Croghan?)      James   Travers Winifred        Register 2, page 207    2       9       Cryan/Crohan Birth

Index

01/09/1845      Croghan James    -      Croghan James   Travers Winifred        Register 2, page

252     2       10      Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

18/09/1849      Croghan Patrick  -      Croghan James   Travers Winifred        Register 2, page

292     2       11      Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

21/01/1844      Croghan John     -      Croghan Patrick Canry   Brigid  Register 2, page

220     2       12      Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

28/06/1836      Croghan Mary     -      Croghan Patrick Fitzwilliam     Brigid  Register 2,

page 70 2       13      Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

01/07/1899      Cryan   John    Croghan Cryan   Andrew  McCormak        Teresa  Register 3, page

153     2       21      Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

15/02/1834      Crien   Margaret         -      Crien   Bartholomew

(Bernard?)      Hanly   Margaret        Register 2, page 15     2       22      Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

04/09/1825      Crine   James    -      Crine   Bernard Hanly   Margaret        Register 1, page

164     2       23      Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

10/02/1828      Creins  Patrick  -      Creins  Bernard Hanly   Margaret        Register 1, page

193     2       24      Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

18/09/1835      Cryan   Sarah    -      Cryan   Bernard Hanly   Margaret        Register 2, page

75      2       25      Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

28/04/1839      Cryan   Anne     -      Cryan   Bernard Hanly   Margaret        Register 2, page

127     2       26      Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

13/07/1823      Crine   Mary     -      Crine   Bernard Hanly   Mary    Register 1, page

152     2       27      Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

06/03/1817      Cryan   Patrick Fairly  Cryan   John    Hanly   Catherine       Register 1, page

80      3       1       Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

25/03/1873      Cryan   Mary    Carrowreagh     Cryan   Luke    McOwen  Sarah   Register 3, page

54      3       2       Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

12/09/1876      Cryan   Patrick Carrowreagh     Cryan   Luke    McOwen  Sarah   Register 3, page

69      3       3       Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

15/09/1818      Cryan   Dominic  -      Cryan   Malachy Healy   Brigid  Register 1, page

92      3       4       Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

25/01/1831      Crian   John     -      Crian   Michael Higgins Eleanor Register 1, page

212     3       5       Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

13/07/1834      Cryan   Paul     -      Cryan   Michael Higgins Eleanor Register 2, page

26      3       6       Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

12/09/1836      Cryan   Eleanor  -      Cryan   Michael Higgins Eleanor Register 2, page

75      3       7       Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

05/11/1837      Crine   Mary     -      Crine   Michael Higgins Eleanor Register 2, page

96      3       8       Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

17/12/1834      Crien   Michael  -      Crien    -      Murry   Mary    Register 2, page

35      3       9       Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

06/11/1840      Cryan   Patrick  -      Cryan   Patrick O'Beirne        Brigid  Register 2, page

156     3       10      Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

08/01/1832      Crian   Daniel   -      Crian   Patrick Butler  Brigid  Register 1, page

220     3       11      Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

09/12/1886      Cryan   Mary    Knockroe        Cryan   Patrick Connaughton     Honor   Register 3,

page 116        3       12      Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

20/05/1888      Cryan   Honor   Knockroe        Cryan   Patrick Connaughton     Honor   Register 3,

page 121        3       13      Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

26/09/1889      Cryan   Patrick Knockroe        Cryan   Patrick Connaughton     Honor   Register 3,

page 124        3       14      Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

16/10/1892      Cryan   Catherine       Knockroe        Cryan   Patrick Connaughton     Honor   Register

3, page 133     3       15      Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

05/12/1844      Cryan   Thomas   -      Cryan   Patrick Cox     Honor   Register 2, page

237     3       16      Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

24/03/1846      Cryan   Mary     -      Cryan   Patrick Cox     Honor   Register 2, page

263     3       17      Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

13/09/1850      Cryan   Honor    -      Cryan   Patrick Cox     Honor   Register

MF      3       18      Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

03/10/1852      Cryan   John     -      Cryan   Patrick Cox     Honor   Register

MF      3       19      Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

10/04/1822      Crine   Mary     -      Crine   Patrick Croghan Sarah   Register 1, page

138     3       20      Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

26/10/1823      Crine   Patrick  -      Crine   Patrick Croghan Sarah   Register 1, page

157     3       21      Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

24/11/1826      Crine   Thomas   -      Crine   Patrick Croughan (Croghan?)     Sarah   Register

1, page 179     3       22      Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

12/08/1848      Cryan   Patrick  -      Cryan   Patrick Cryan   Honor   Register 2, page

290     3       23      Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

03/10/1833      Crien   Fergal   -      Crien   Patrick Doud (Dowd?)    Mary    Register 2, page

6       3       24      Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

26/05/1835      Crien   Catherine        -      Crien   Patrick Doud (Dowd?)    Mary    Register 2,

page 45 3       25      Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

05/01/1837      Crine   Luke     -      Crine   Patrick Dowd    Mary    Register 2, page

81      3       26      Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

17/05/1839      Cryan   Sarah    -      Cryan   Patrick Doud (Dowd?)    Mary    Register 2, page

134     3       27      Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

08/12/1830      Criane  Brigid   -      Criane  Patrick Doud (Dowd?)     - (Mary?)      Register

1, page 212     3       28      Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

15/12/1844      Cryan   Thomas   -      Cryan   Patrick Farrell Catherine       Register 2, page

237     3       29      Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

22/06/1846      Cryan   Mary     -      Cryan   Patrick Farrell Catherine       Register 2, page

269     3       30      Cryan/Crohan Birth Index

18/01/1846  Cryan John - Patrick  Flood Brigid N R 2, 259.

30/06/1829 Crian John Patrick Crogan Sarah N R 1, 202.

08/10/1841 Cryan Michael Patrick Lewin Mary N.F.A. 2, 175

16/4/1815  Cryan Winifred Patrick Golrick Brigid NR, 1, 63.

23/3/1817 Cryan Peter Patrick Goldrick Brigid N R, 1, 80.

5/8/1821 Crine John Patrick Golrick Brigid N R 1,126.

8/10/1833 Crien Brigid Patrick Moraghan Brigid Nr 2, 6.

4/12/1893 Cryan Mary Patrick O’ Reilly Catherine Carrowreagh 3, 137

1/4/1895 Cryan John Patrick O’ Reilly Catherine Carrowrreagh 3, 141.

20/5/1897 Cryan Thomas Patrick Reilly Catherine Carrowreagh 3,147.

6/5/1899 Cryan Anne Patrick O’ Reilly Catherine Canaragh 3, 154.

24/1/1855 Cryan Patrick Peter Carney Catherine N R M F, N R.

28/9/1856 Cryan Brigid  Peter Carny Catherine N R , M F, N R.

29/6/1858  Cryan Mary Peter Carny Catherine N R, M F, N R.

3/6/1860 Cryan John Peter Carny Catherine N R, M F, N R.

22/3/1863 Cryan Peter Peter Carny Catherine N R, M F, N R.

14/1/1866 Cryone Luke Peter Carny Catherine Cullentren 3,8.

7/6/1868 Cryan Catherine Peter Carny Catherine Cullentren 3,24.

2/2/1871 Cryan Sarah Peter Carny Catherine Cullenrure 3, 39.

17/3/1873 Cryan Martin Peter Carney Catherine Culleenatreen 3, 53.

15/6/1849 Cryan Brigid Peter Murry Brigid N R 2, 300.

23/10 1836 Cryan Mary Peter Murry Mary N R 2,77.

7/4/1839 Cryan John Peter Murry Mary N R 2, 172.

12/8/1841 Cryan Catherine Peter Murry Mary N R 2, N R.

8/4/1852 Cryan Winifred Peter Murry Mary N R M F

15/5/1888 Cryan Mary Peter Paddin Sarah Carrowreagh 3, 1211

28/6/1890 Cryan Eleanor Peter Paddin Sarah Carrowreagh 3, 226

18/6/1892 Cryan John Peter Paddin Sarah Carrowreagh 3, 132.

10/2/1894 Cryan Susan Peter Paddin Sarah Carrowreagh 3, 138

1/11/1895 Cryan Patrick Peter Paddin Sarah Carrowreagh 3,142.

7/5/1815 Cryan Dominic Peter Sharkett Mary N R 1, 63.

24/6/1821 Crine Patrick Thomas  N R , N R, N R, 1,124.

7/4/1817 Crine Mary Thomas Shannon Mary Derran 1, 71.

 

From:        Fatarm@aol.comAdd to Address Book   Date:        Thu, 11 Mar 1999 10:56:14 EST

 Subject:        [CRYAN-L] A request for submissions    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Those of you who have been on this mailing list for some time will

recall thatI have been trying to put together a database of our ancestors plus all

thoseothers that are posted to the list or my own research comes across.

Thanks tomany of you, we have about 2500 names in the database, with whatever

otherscraps of information (locations, occupations, baptismal sponsors etc.)

we'vecome across.

I've been sitting on this information for a while, and now that it

looks likeI'll have a little "relaxation" time before we move into our new house,

I'dlike to get it in better order.  About ten or so new subscribers have

joinedthis mailing list since I last asked, so I figure this is a good place

tostart -- would any of you newbies be willing to post your pre-WWII era

genealogies with the list?  My goal is to reference researchers to

ancestorsand be able to assist those wishing to make family connections with

otherresearchers.  And to generally promote a sense of family amongst our

"clan",of course.  The more details, the better, simply because there are a

lot ofPatricks and Bridgets ....I'm also hoping to soon email those of you whom have already shared

your infoto verify stuff.  But give me time to clean it up first!!  Leslie

- - - - - - - - - - - -Here's a repost of my 'sticking point', or as far back as I've gotten,

as anexample:

- - - - - - - - - - - -

Robert Cryan b.1840/1 m. Frances Fox

Robert was in the Royal Irish Constabulary (RIC) and died at the age of

60 inS. Dublin.  For at least a time, he was stationed in Castlebar, Co.

Mayo.After he died, Frances worked as a housekeeper near Dublin.  All of her

children emigrated to the U.S.A., mostly to the New York/New Jersey

area.  MyGgrandmother, Agnes, and her mother were the last to come over c. 1914.

 Agneshad worked for Linde Air, the first Catholic to do so, before

emigrating withher mother.

A side story my grandmother remembers Agnes telling:  Before she

emigrated tothe U.S. she considered going to Argentina.  Apparently many young

Irish womenwere invited to do so, or were emigrating to Argentina at that time.

Agnesand Frances then lived in/were housekeeping a boarding house for British

officers who told Agnes not to go to Argentina because it 'would be

like whiteslavery.'  Can you imagine?!  Anyways, it's certainly a colorfulanecdote!

 

 

From:        "Michael Tobin" <tobinmi@hotmail.com>Add to Address Book   Date:

        Fri, 12 Mar 1999 02:43:21 PST Subject:        [CRYAN-L] Creane office holders in Sligo town in 1687

    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

I recently came upon a periodical entitled Irish Heritage Links, dated 10 April 1990. Its distributed from an address in Northern Ireland.In it, for many of the towns in Ireland, it contains a list of office

holders from 300 years ago.The list is introduced by 'These lists have been extracted from a copy

of the eighteenth century publication entitled "The History of the Life and Reign of William of Nassau and Orange, ...etc".'While the copy I have only lists some towns, it includes Sligo town and

has the following information.

" Sligoe March 21, 1687

  Andrew French, Provost

Burgesses, 24

  Martin O'Connor, Esq

  John Taffe, Esq

  Sir William Gore, Baronet

  Henry Crafton (or Craston), Esq

  Oliver O'Gara, Esq

  Kane O'Hara, Esq

  Edward Crafton (or Craston), Esq

  Pierce Gethin, Esq

  James French, Esq

  Philip Ormsby, Esq

  George Crafton (or Craston), Esq

  Terence McDonough, Esq

  Walter Philips, Esq

  Philip Cox, Merchant

  Jasper Brett, Esq

  John Creane, Gent

  Andrew Lynch, Apothecary

  Anthony Creane, Merchant

  Peter Darcy, Merchant

  John Delap, Merchant

  Bartholomew Maly, Merchant

  Thomas Jones, Esq

  Charles Hart, Gent

  Laurence O'Hara, Town Clerk"

The 2 Creane's mentioned above are Creane's we've mentioned in this

list previously, and I think are the same Creane family who have a tomb in

Sligo Abbey.

They were regarded as a leading family in Sligo town in those days. I

haven't come across references to the family in later centuries yet - I

wonder did the their line die out, or were they adversely affected by

the plantations and moved elsewhere?

Does anyone know what is meant by a Burgess??

Also, does anyone know why someone's title might be "Gent" while

someone else's might be "Esq". I always thought they meant roughly the same

thing, but the above list contains both - which is surprising if they

mean the same thing. Could it be a Catholic vs Protestant title?

regardsMichael

 

From:        Crogmos@aol.comAdd to Address Book   Date:        Fri, 12 Mar 1999 12:49:25 EST

 Subject:        [CRYAN-L] For tobinmi@ho    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Here are the explations of the words you listed from the Oxford

dictionary:-Burgess- inhabitant of a town or borough especially one with full

munipalrights. Historical use- a member of parliament for a borough , town oruniversity.

Esquire- a title appended to a man's surname when no other form of

address isused such as Mr.  not used very much these days'Historical use -shield bearer.

Gentleman- a man of good social position or of wealth and leisure

(countrygentleman) A man of gentle birth attached to a Royal household (gentleman inwaiting)

Gentleman farmer- a country gentleman who farms.

Hope these definitions are of help.  Pat Moseley (crogmos@aol.com)

 

  From:        "Michael Tobin" <tobinmi@hotmail.com>Add to Address Book   Date:        Fri, 12 Mar 1999 11:02:01 PST Subject:        [CRYAN-L] Re: A WEE bit more of St. Pat's Legend, I should say ...    To:

        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

LeslieIrish holidays are

 1 Jan - New Year's Day

 17 Mar - St Patrick's Day

 Easter Monday (Good Friday is a church holiday and some companies

                give it off while others don't)

 1 May - May Day

 First Monday in June (Whit weekend)

 First Monday in August

 Last Monday of October (generally Halloween)

 25 Dec - Christmas Day

 26 Dec - St Stephen's Day

There are many other holy days which are Church holidays but not public

holidays.

 

From:        Fatarm@aol.comAdd to Address Book   Date:        Sat, 13 Mar 1999 11:18:56 EST

 Subject:        [CRYAN-L] Irish Orgz for newbies, a refresher for us all    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Because hunting for records about our Irish ancestors often turns up the

following terms, I am forwarding this message to the list to help any

newbiesin the group who might be struggling with this concept.  Please ask

questionsabout what might still not be clear -- understanding the tiers and

overlaps(and non-overlaps) is vital to getting what you want!

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 13:08:11 EST

From: Caiside@aol.com

To: GENIRE-L@rootsweb.com

In a message dated 2/14/99 1:03:01 PM, r.shields@which.net wrote:

<<I see the word "homeland " used as in the phrase " Ballywhatever will

not be the Parish but it will be the Homeland ". It is obviously an

administrative division of some sort. Can someone clarify what it is

preferably in relation to parishes, rural districts, electoral divisions

and so forth.>>

The correct term is Townland. And you are right, it is an administrative

division. Here's some more info on such divisions:

Civil Divisions

Townland--the smallest unit of land area, varying from less than

                ten acres to thousands. There are about 64,000 townlands generallyorganized into civil parishes

Civil Parishes--generally contain about twenty-five to thirty

                townlands, as well as towns and villages. There are   about 2,500 civil parishes.

Barony--a portion of a county of group of civil parishes. There  are 273 baronies in Ireland.

County--there are 32 of them, in four provinces. The first   counties, Dublin, Louth, and Kildare, were   established in the early 13th century by the English; the last, those of Ulster, established after 1600.

Province--there are four; Connaught, Leinster, Munster, and    Ulster.

Cities, Towns, Boroughs, and Wards--separate administrative

                areas of varying size. Many have several civil parishes,

                some civil parishes have several townships. Urban areas

                can have boroughs (a town with a corporation, or a town

                that has an MP), a ward is an adminstrative unit within

                a city or large town.

Poor Law Unions--set up in 1838. Rates, land-based taxes, were

                collected in these areas for maintenance of the poor.

                Although named after a large local town, they don't

                always conform to county boundaries. These districts

                later became General Registrar's Districts.

General Registrar's Districts--are the areas births, deaths, and

                marriages were compiled.

 

Ecclesiastical Divisions

Church Parish--the area a minister or parish priest serves.

                Church of Ireland parishes usually conform to civil

                parish boundaries; Catholic boundaries generally do

                not.

Diocese--parishes are organized into dioceses, with a bishop.

                The dioceses contain a certain number of church parishes

                and don't conform to county boundaries.

All the above was paraphrased from James G. Ryan "Irish Records: Sources

for Family and Local History" (Flyleaf Press, 1997).

Hope this helps,Janet C-S

 

 

From:        Crogmos@aol.comAdd to Address Book   Date:        Sat, 13 Mar 1999 14:42:53 EST

 Subject:        [CRYAN-L] Origin of "bally"    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

In the End of Hidden Ireland by Robert Scally  1995 Oxford University

Pressthe origin of bally as part of a place name is explained with reference

toBallykilcline  as "Such a community as Ballykilcline was known as a

"baile" inthe Irish language and so it was called by its people, becoming the

commonprefix bally in English maps and surveys. But by the nineteenth century

thegeneral usage in English, both for the community and the surveyed unit

of landin which it lived, was the townland. Hence, this Roscommon community

was knownas the townland of Ballykilkline"I hope this helps.  Pat Moseley(crogmos@aol.com)

 

WALKER-GBR (Walkers in Great Britain -- England, Scotland,

    Ireland and Wales)

 

From:        "Michael Tobin" <tobinmi@hotmail.com>Add to Address Book

   Date:        Mon, 15 Mar 1999 04:25:04 PST Subject:        [CRYAN-L] Cryans in general Gurteen area, Co. Sligo    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

I have been scanning through a book by Fr John Finn entitled "Gurteen,

Co. Sligo - its people and its past", published in 1993.Gurteen is about 5 miles west of Ballymote in South Sligo. It is along the Tubbercurry-Boyle road, about half-way between the 2 towns.

The book contains numerous tables of various records for the Gurteen area, together with some folklore. Here are the records which mentioned the Cryan name or variants. You'll notice that its mostly Cryan.

Hope the information is useful to someone.regardsMichael

Griffiths Valuation 1858:

 Townland       Occupier

 Cloontycarn    Michael Cryan

 Seefin         John Cryan

 Seefin         Philip Cryan

 Seefin         James Cryan

 Moygara        Dominick Crine

 Gortygara      John Cryan

 Gortygara      Patrick Cryan

 Knocknaskeagh  Michael Cryan

 Knocknaskeagh  Patrick Cryan

 Mullaghroe     Patrick Cryan

 

 A Statistical Survey of the Cemetries in the Barony of Coolavin

(author and date not provided)

Killaraght Cemetery

 Person                 Townland        Date

 John Cryan             Ardmoyle        Apr 1949

 Bridget Cryan          Ardmoyle        Mar 11 1940

 Mary E (Healy) Cryan   Ardmoyle        Mar 11 1940

 Michael Cryan          Derrybeg        Nov 18 1938

 Henrietta Cryan        Derrybeg        May 4 1971

 James Cryan            Derrybeg        Jun 13 1985

 Sinead Henrietta Cryan Derrybeg        Dec 31 1976

 

Knockmore-Mnt Irwin Cemetery

 Person                 Townland        Date

 Michael Cryan          Ougham          Mar 24 1954

 Patrick Cryan          Ougham          May 26 1971

 Nora Cecelia Cryan                     Jan 5 1936

 Brendan Michael Cryan                  Jul 8 1934

 Elizabeth Cryan                        Jan 31 1945

 Kathleen Cryan         Moygara         Jun 11 1919

 Thomas Cryan           Moygara         Dec 13 1897

 Patrick Cryan          Knocknaskeagh   Oct 21 1985

 

Monasteraden Cemetery

 Person                 Townland        Date

 Honoria Cryan                          Feb 11 1908

 Thomas Cryan

 Michael Cryan

 Honoria Cryan          Clogher         Nov 28 1954

 Thomas (N.T) Cryan     Townaghbrack    Sep 18 1905

 Mary Cryan             Clogher House   Aug 28 1968

 William Cryan

 

Templeronan No 1 Cemetery

 Person                 Townland        Date

 Mary Ellen Cryan       Derrynockeran   Feb 7 1958

 Iain Cryan             Derrynockeran   Dec 27 1973

 Patrick Cryan          Moygara         May 15 1946

 Mary Cryan             Moygara         Feb 7 1926

 

Reply-To:          "Family History" < >    From:          "Family History" < >Add to Address Book      To:          "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>  Subject:          Re John CRYANand Margaret DOLAN

    Date:          Mon, 15 Mar 1999 12:58:55 -0000

Hi, I am sorry not to have been to the FHC at Myddleton Place yet. But

I dohope to go this week.However looking through old postings to add them to my card index, I

foundyour family. I can match what you wrote with some stuff from the Vital

Statistics CDs which you may know or you may find interesting

John CRYAN married Margaret DOLAN 14 Nov 1858 in Boyle RC         VS

          Joseph born 9 Feb 1864 reg Boyle and Balleenameen

          James christened 9 May 1866 Killucan and killumnod RC

          Catherine born 14 Aug 1868 reg Boyle and Ball.

          Stephen born 26 Dec c 27 Dec 1870 Killucan and Killumnod RC

          Margaret Anne born14 March 1874 c 17 March 1874 Killucanand

Killumnod RC

         John born 11June 1876 c 15 June 1876 Killucan and Killumnod RC

I have not found any other entries especially those before 1859 - 1864.

There may have been some but they are not in this collection.I hope that this is useful. Eve

 

From:        Crogmos@aol.comAdd to Address Book   Date:        Mon, 15 Mar 1999 09:37:51 EST

 Subject:        [CRYAN-L] Croghan births    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

I have just printed off the list of births, the ones I'm trying to find

arefrom Carrogarve and Ballybrougham townlands near Tulsk Co Roscommon.

There aresome on the Vital Records index but not the right parish. Does anyone

knowwhich RC parish/s are covered by the civil parish of Ogalla?  any help

muchappreciated.Another problem that perhaps someone knows the answer- is there any way

toaccess the 1850 census for Syracuse New York state via the internet?

Greetings for St. Patrick' Day, we have just had our largest parade so

far inBirmingham England.  Pat Moseley (crogmos@aol.com)

 

 

  From:        Fatarm@aol.comAdd to Address Book   Date:        Mon, 15 Mar 1999 11:04:41 EST

 Subject:        [CRYAN-L] Re: Croghan births    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Pat, you might try through USGenWeb.  There's a huge volunteer project

underway to get U.S. Census data online (and searchable, I believe).  I

don'tknow the status, or whether it's only for a certain census year or

what.  Butit's worth checking it out.  You can get there through rootsweb if

nothingcomes up when you search for "usgenweb".

 

From:        JDeVito29@aol.comAdd to Address Book   Date:        Wed, 17 Mar 1999 16:23:40 EST

 Subject:        Re: [CRYAN-L] A request for submissions    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

I am one of the members who has been meaning to post information for a

longtime... unfortunately I have little information on the generation (my

greatgrandparents) who came to America, but here is what I have for them:

James J. Cryan was born Abt. 1830 in Ballagherdereen, Roscommon,

Ireland, anddied Aft. 1880 in Lowell, Middlesex, MA. 

Sarah B. McMahon was born Dec 1838 (in Scotland?), and died Jul 11,

1911 inLowell, Middlesex, MA.  She married James J. Cryan Oct 6, 1859 (inScotland?).

 

Looked up by Paul E Cryan (my grandfather) in Passenger Lists:

SS Aleppo -- Apr 3, 1870

Cryden, Sarah  30 (Matron)

James 10

Anne 8

Mary 6

Bridget 2

Nat.  Scotland

 

(Sarah McMahon Cryan supposedly sailed about this time to USA fromNewcastleon Tyne, Durham, England.  The names and ages of the children are closeto theinformation I have, as listed below):

        Children of James Cryan and Sarah McMahon are:

                i.      Anne E. Cryan, born Apr 1, 1863 in England; died Nov 7, 1923 inLowell,  Middlesex, MA.

                ii.     James Cryan, born Abt. 1861; died Dec 17, 1920 in Lowell,Middlesex, MA.

                        He married Minnie Fox.

                iii.    Mary Cryan, born Abt. 1866 in England ?; died Bef. 1911 inLowell,Middlesex,    MA.  She married James O'Flahavan , Sr..

                iv.     Bridget T. Cryan, born 1867 in England ?; died Jan 3, 1949 inLowell,     Middlesex, MA.

                v.      Frank Cryan, born Abt. 1868 in England ??; died young.

                vi.     Thomas Cryan, born Abt. 1870 in England ??; died 1870 as infant.

                vii.    Katherine F. Cryan, born 1872 in on ship from England ?; diedFeb 2,1957 in  Lowell, Middlesex, MA.

                viii.   John Phillip Cryan , Sr., born Apr 14, 1874 in Lowell,Middlesex, MA;died Feb  3, 1939 in Lowell, Middlesex, MA.

                ix.     Thomas Cryan, born Nov 12, 1876 in Lowell, Middlesex, MA; diedyoung.

                x.      Arthur Cryan, born Feb 6, 1878 in Lowell, Middlesex, MA; diedyoung.

                xi.     Alexander Cryan, born Jul 27, 1880 in Lowell, Middlesex, MA;died Mar27,   1956 in Lowell, Middlesex, MA.

 

My Cryan line runs through viii, John Phillip Cryan.  I have much moreinformation concerning current generations, if anyone connects to thisline ofLowell, MA Cryans.   Jill DeVito

 

 

  From:        Fatarm@aol.comAdd to Address Book   Date:        Thu, 18 Mar 1999 16:20:38 EST

 Subject:        [CRYAN-L] New LDS search link coming soon to the internet ...    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

The following is excerpted from the Crain-surname rootsweb mailing list

(sorryfor any duplications, Crain/Crane researchers!).  Thought it was

newsworthyenough to be of interest here, too:     [LDS=Later Day Saints, aka

Mormons)

I have been informed that a new LDS search link will soon be

on-line.  Apparently it was undergoing testing when word got out to the

public about the site while it was being tested and the load was too

much.        The site was planned to go on-line in March or April.  To determine

when, here is some steps to use.

        :

        : 1.  Go to LDS.org

        : 2. Find Media Resources

        : 3. Check News Updates

        The news will be posted when ready.        Good Luck        Dwayne Crandall

 

  From:        Fatarm@aol.comAdd to Address Book   Date:        Thu, 18 Mar 1999 16:32:03 EST

 Subject:        [CRYAN-L] For Down Under researchers    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

I picked this off of Gen-Ire, and thought those of you seeking

Australiansmight be interested:-

Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 14:01:20 GMT

From: ppmay@actonline.com.au (Peter Mayberry)

To: GENIRE-L@rootsweb.com

Message-ID: <36efb58d.5196721@news.actonline.com.au>

Subject: Irish Convicts to NSW 1791-1820

Dear All,

Last year on St. Patrick's Day, I launched my Irish Rebels to NSW

site.This year, I have increased the number of Irish Convicts to NSW to

over7400 in the online searchable database. It now covers most of these

convicts from 1791-1820.

The list of ships 1791-1820 to New South Wales is now on separate web

page.Its possible to search for a surname for each of the highlighted ships

[except Duke of Portland (1)]. In my opinion, it's a waste of time if

you're searching just a surname.

It is better to use the Convict surname searchable database which

covers1791-1820.

A couple of hints ....If you are searching all convicts from say Kilkenny, then type

kilkennyin the Search all fields option. This option will return all the

convicts with Kilkenny as their Trial Place or Native Place.

Try using variations on your specific surname e.g. Burn Byrne Walsh

Welch Riley Reilly  In the ship option, it's possible to type in a particular year e.g.

1820  This will return all Irish convicts transported to NSW in 1820.

The initial information comes from the microfiche copies of the

ShippingIndents held by the State Records of New South Wales.

If you have any problems etc., don't hesitate to contact me.

RegardsPeter MayberryMy Home Page's URL is http://www.pcug.org.au/~ppmay/

 

 Reply-To:          "Family History" < >    From:          "Family History" < >Add to Address Book      To:          "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>  Subject:          Re: Re John CRYANand Margaret DOLAN

    Date:          Fri, 19 Mar 1999 09:49:46 -0000

Hi Caoimhghin,I visited Myddleton Place yesterday and looked for Charles CRYAN. Sadly

thelatest index on the shelf was the December quarter of 1997 - I suppose

it isa bit early in the year for 1998. However I looked through 1997 and 1996

without finding him. Being stupid, I did not ask at the desk what the

nextstep would be ...... I shall be going again so I shall persue this

until wefind something. If we knew where he had died then we could just write

to thelocal registrar enclosing a fee (£6.50) and giving the particulars

..... butfrom what you say this is not certain.Leave it with me and I shall follow this again.

Sorry not to have done better, but never give up......! Eve

 

 Reply-To:          "Family History" < >    From:          "Family History" < >Add to Address Book    Date:          Fri, 19 Mar 1999 11:16:38 -0000

  Subject:          [CRYAN-L] James CRYANand Sarah Mc MAHON      To:          CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

This is most especially for Jill de Vito but may help others too.

I have just collected all the CRYAN births in England up to 1880. From

themI have extracted the births from the 10a registration district which is

County Durham. Jill originally requested Newcastle Durham England.

Newcastleis in the county of Northumberland - ie North of the River Tyne and

CountyDurham is South of the River Tyne, the river being the boundary.

Gatesheadis just across the river from Newcastle and may account for any

confusion.all these are CRYANs unless stated.

Date = year(quarter), 1=Jan-March, 2=April-June etc

10a + number are the volume and page number of the entry and are

required ifyou write to request a certificate from the GRO but not if you write to

thelocal registrar.

 

James             Gateshead          1860(3)     10a 562      *

Anne               Gateshead          1862(2)     10a 638      *

Mary               Chester-le-Street  1864(2)     10a 438

Margaret Jane  Durham               1864(3)     10a 313

Mary Jane        Hartlepool           1865(4)     10a 164

Rose E            Durham               1866(2)     10a 326 died 1879(2)

Bridget            Hartlepool            1867(4)     10a 134     *

Francis            Auckland             1868(2)     10a 174     *

Roger              Sunderland          1868(3)     10a 539

James             Hartlepool            1869(3)     10a 156

Patrick            Durham                1869(3)     10a 329

John Thomas   Sunderland           1870(2)     10a 612     *?

Joseph            Durham                1873(1)     10a 440

Thomas           Durham                1875(4)     10a 383     *

Michael CRYNES Easington         18 76(1)     10a 494

Peter              Sunderland            1876(4)     10a 682

* means that it seems to fit with the family. I hope that this is a

help,Happy hunting Eve

 

 

  From:        JDeVito29@aol.comAdd to Address Book   Date:        Fri, 19 Mar 1999 14:14:11 EST

    To:        caoimhghin@yahoo.com Subject:        Lowell Cryans

Dear Kevin Cryan,

You may already have seen part of this information on the Cryan list (?)

Please let me know if you have any trouble opening the attached (MS

Word)document; it contains the older generations of my Cryan tree (down to my

grandfather [Paul E. Cryan]'s generation), in case you can use any of

theinformation in your database.

Would you happen to have any information concerning my great great

grandfather, James Cryan of Ballaghedereen, Roscommon?  According to my

information, he was married to Sarah McMahon on Oct 6, 1859, but I do

not knowwhere that date came from, and I am searching for their marriage record

whichmay be located in England (Durham or Northumberland) or Scotland.

Informationconcerning his death (in Lowell, MA) would also be very helpful.

Thank you,Jill

 

 

Descendants of Frank O’Reilly

 

 

Generation No. 1

 

      1.  Frank1 O'Reilly was born 1852, and died Mar 3, 1888.  He married Catherine E. Ultican.

 

      Children of Frank O'Reilly and Catherine Ultican are:

 +   2            i.   Katherine2 O'Reilly.

 +   3           ii.   Anna Gertrude O'Reilly, born Sep 13, 1884 in Lowell, Middlesex, MA; died 1936.

 

 

Generation No. 2

 

      2.  Katherine2 O'Reilly (Frank1).  She married Eugene Malherbe 1922.

 

      Children of Katherine O'Reilly and Eugene Malherbe are:

 +   4            i.   Katherine3 Malherbe.

      5           ii.   Leonard Malherbe.

 

            3.  Anna Gertrude2 O'Reilly (Frank1) was born Sep 13, 1884 in Lowell, Middlesex, MA, and died 1936.  She married John Phillip Cryan , Sr., son of James Cryan and Sarah McMahon.

 

Generation No. 3

 

      4.  Katherine3 Malherbe (Katherine2 O'Reilly, Frank1).  She married ?? Lee.

 

      Children of Katherine Malherbe and ?? Lee are:

      15          i.   Claudia4 Lee.

      16         ii.   Charles Lee.

 

(descendants of Anna Gertrude O’Reilly are listed below)

 

Descendants of Frank McMahon

 

 

Generation No. 1

 

      1.  Frank1 McMahon.  He married Anna Grimes.

 

      Children of Frank McMahon and Anna Grimes are:

      2            i.   Alexander2 McMahon.  He married Boomy ??.

      3           ii.   John McMahon.

      4          iii.   Margaret McMahon.

 +   5          iv.   Sarah B. McMahon, born Dec 1838 in Scotland?; died Jul 11, 1911 in Lowell, Middlesex, MA.

      6           v.   Kitty McMahon, born Abt. 1840.  She married ?? Cavanaugh.

 

 

Generation No. 2

 

      5.  Sarah B.2 McMahon (Frank1) was born Dec 1838 in Scotland?, and died Jul 11, 1911 in Lowell, Middlesex, MA.  She married James J. Cryan (born abt. 1830 in Ballagherdereen, Roscommon, Ireland, and died Aft. 1880 in Lowell, Middlesex, MA) Oct 6, 1859 in Scotland?.

 

 Notes for Sarah B. McMahon:

e-mailed by Karen Murphy (Lowell Cryan researcher; voltene@aol.com), 12/1/98:

 

Lowell Sun,  Friday  14 July 1911

Obituary

CRYAN-  Mrs. Sarah Cryan died last evening at her home,  13 Myrtle street, after a long illness.   Her age was 71 years and 8 months.   Mrs. Cryan was  well known here,  having made this city her home for many years.   She is survived by three sons,  James,  John P., and Alexander Cryan,  and three daughters,  Mrs. John Ort,  Miss B. T. Cryan of the Fashion store and Miss Katie Cryan.

 

Lowell Sun,  15 Jul, 1911

CRYAN-  All that was mortal of the late Mrs. Sarah Cryan was consigned to its final resting place in the Catholic cemetery this morning.   The funeral, which was very largely attended, took place from her home,  13 Myrtle street,  at 8:30 o'clock and proceeded to St. Michael's church,  where at 9 o'clock a high mass of requiem was celebrated for the repose of her soul by the pastor,  Rev. John J. Shaw.   The choir under the direction of Mr. Thomas P. Boulger sang the Gregorian mass and Miss Mary O'Donnell presided at the organ.   The solos of the mass were sustained by Mr. Boulger and Miss  Margaret Griffin.   There were many beautiful floral offerings,  among them being the following;  large pillow of roses,  ferns,  and carnations, inscribed   "Mother "  from the sons and daughters of the deceased;  wreath of roses and carnations,  inscribed    "Grandma"   from the Ort children;  spray of carnations form Mr. and Mrs P. H. Goldman;  wreath of white roses from Mr. and Mrs. Mahoney and Mrs. Slattery; spray of carnations,  Mr. and Mrs. J.J. McManmon; spray of pinks,  Mrs. Dennison,  Miss Scott and Mrs. Lemerise, employees of the Fashion; spray of carnations from Edith Walcott Prescott Ladies Auxilliary of the United Spanish War Veterans, No. 2.    The bearers were Messrs,  James Cryan,  Thomas Cryan,  Thomas Hayden,   James O'Flahavan,   William Enwright and  John J. Ort.    Internment was in the family lot in St. Patrick's cemetery, where the last sad rites of the Catholic church were conducted by Rev. Fr. Shaw.   Funeral Director, James W. McKenna  in charge.

 

(Note:  The Thomas Cryan mentioned above is not her son Thomas, but another Cryan (who may have come from Ireland to stay with the family).  The James O'Flavahan mentioned above is James Cryan Sr., the widower of Mary Cryan. -- Paul E. Cryan, 2/24/98)

 

Looked up by Paul E. Cryan in Boston passenger lists:

 

SS Aleppo -- Apr 3, 1870

Cryden, Sarah  30 (Matron)

James 10

Anne 8

Mary 6

Bridget 2

            Nat.  Scotland

 

More About Sarah B. McMahon:

Fact 1: Abt. 1870, Sailed to USA from Newcastle on Tyne, Northumberland, England

 

 Notes for James J. Cryan:

e-mailed by Karen Murphy, 12/1/98:

 

All children of James J. Cryan and Sarah McMahon are buried in St. Patrick's Cemetary, Lowell, MA

e-mailed by Eve Spackman (England Cryan researcher;  ), 3/19/99:

 

I have just collected all the CRYAN births in England up to 1880. From them

I have extracted the births from the 10a registration district which is

County Durham. Jill originally requested Newcastle Durham England. Newcastle

is in the county of Northumberland - ie North of the River Tyne and County

Durham is South of the River Tyne, the river being the boundary. Gateshead

is just across the river from Newcastle and may account for any confusion.

all these are CRYANs unless stated.

Date = year(quarter), 1=Jan-March, 2=April-June etc

10a + number are the volume and page number of the entry and are required if

you write to request a certificate from the GRO but not if you write to the

local registrar.

 

James            Gateshead    1860(3)                      10a 562

Anne              Gateshead    1862(2)                      10a 638

Mary               Chester-le-Street      1864(2)                      10a 438

Margaret Jane          Durham                     1864(3)                      10a 313

Mary Jane     Hartlepool      1865(4)                      10a 164

Rose E                       Durham                     1866(2)                      10a 326 died 1879(2)

Bridget                       Hartlepool      1867(4)                      10a 134

Francis                       Auckland       1868(2)                      10a 174

Roger             Sunderland   1868(3)                      10a 539

James            Hartlepool      1869(3)                      10a 156

Patrick                        Durham                     1869(3)                      10a 329

John Thomas            Sunderland   1870(2)                      10a 612

Joseph                       Durham                     1873(1)                      10a 440

Thomas                      Durham                     1875(4)                      10a 383

Peter               Sunderland   1876(4)                      10a 682

 

      Children of Sarah McMahon and James Cryan are:

      7            i.   James3 Cryan, born Abt. 1860 in Gateshead, Durham, England ?; died Dec 17, 1920 in Lowell, Middlesex, MA.  He married Minnie Fox.

 

Notes for James Cryan:

e-mailed by Karen Murphy, 12/1/98:

 

Lowell Courier Citizen,  Saturday,  18 Dec. 1920

 

Obituary

James CRYAN

 

The many friends of James Cryan, a well known resident of this city,  will regret to learn of his death which  occurred yesterday morning at his home,  37 Elliot street,  after a long illness,  at the age of  56.      Deceased was a prominent member of  Branch O'Neil-Crowley,  Irish National Foresters, and for several  years was  treasurer of the local branch.   He was also a  member of the Celtic Associates.  he is survived by two brothers,  John and Alexander and three sisters,  Mrs. John Ort,  and the Misses  Bridget T. and Catherine Cryan

 

[Note: age 56 subtracted from 1920 puts birth around 1864.]

[Note: age 10 from 1870 passenger records on USS Aleppo = 1860.]

[Note: James Cryan birth record in Gateshead, Durham, England = 1860.]

+    8           ii.   Anne E. Cryan, born Apr 1, 1863 in Gateshead, Durham, England ?; died Nov 7, 1923 in Lowell, Middlesex, MA.

 +   9          iii.   Mary Cryan, born Abt. 1866 in Durham, England ?; died Bef. 1911 in Lowell, Middlesex, MA.

      10        iv.   Bridget T. Cryan, born 1867 in Hartlepool, Durham, England ?; died Jan 3, 1949 in Lowell, Middlesex, MA.

 

Notes for Bridget T. Cryan:

e-mailed by Karen Murphy, 12/1/98:

 

Lowell Sun,  Tuesday,  4 Jan 1949

 

Obituary

Bridget T. CRYAN

 

Bridget T. Cryan,    for many years,  a resident of St. Patrick's parish,    died last night at her home,   284 Adams street.    Born in England,   she was the daughter of the late  James and the late  Sarah (McMahon) Cryan.   Coming to this country with her parents at an early age,   she settled in Lowell where she had resided for the past 70 years.   Previous to her retirement,   she was for many years engaged in the  millinery business   on Merrimack street.  She was an graduate of the Lowell  schools and was a   member of the League of Catholic Women and the Blessed Virgin sodality of St. Patrick's parish.   She is survived by a sister,  Miss Katie Cryan of this city; a brother,  Alex T. Cryan of Groton and many neices and nephews.

 

[Note: age 2 from 1870 passenger records on USS Aleppo = 1867-8.]

[Note: Bridget Cryan birth record in Hartlepool, Durham England = 1867.]

 

More About Bridget T. Cryan:

Fact 1: Never married.

Fact 2: Lived with sister Katie.

 

      11         v.   Francis Cryan, born Abt. 1868 in Auckland, Durham, England ?.

 

Notes for Francis Cryan:

[Note: not mentioned in 1970 passenger records on USS Aleppo.]

[Note: Francis Cryan birth record in Auckland, Durham, England = 1868.]

[Note: if Bridget was born in the 4th quarter of 1967, it is improbable (but still possible) that Francis was born in the 2nd quarter of 1868].

 

More About Francis Cryan:

Fact 1: died young

 

      12        vi.   Thomas Cryan, born Abt. 1870 in England ??; died 1870.

 

More About Thomas Cryan:

Fact 1: died as infant

 

      13       vii.   Katherine F. Cryan, born 1872 in on ship from England ?; died Feb 2, 1957 in Lowell, Middlesex, MA.

 

Notes for Katherine F. Cryan:

e-mailed by Karen Murphy, 12/1/98:

 

Katherine Cryan, buried  2/11/57  St. Patrick's Cemetery,  found no obit.

 

More About Katherine F. Cryan:

Fact 1: Never married.

Fact 2: Lived with sister Bridget.

 

 +   14      viii.   John Phillip Cryan , Sr., born Apr 14, 1874 in Lowell, Middlesex, MA; died Feb 3, 1939 in Lowell, Middlesex, MA.

      15        ix.   Thomas Cryan, born Nov 12, 1876 in Lowell, Middlesex, MA.

 

More About Thomas Cryan:

Fact 1: died young

Fact 2: Jul 14, 1911, Not listed in obituary of mother Sarah McMahon.

Fact 3: Jul 15, 1911, This is not the Thomas Cryan who was a pallbearer of Sarah McMahon.

 

      16         x.   Arthur Cryan, born Feb 6, 1878 in Lowell, Middlesex, MA.

 

More About Arthur Cryan:

Fact 1: died young

 

 +   17        xi.   Alexander Cryan, born Jul 27, 1880 in Lowell, Middlesex, MA; died Mar 27, 1956 in Lowell, Middlesex, MA.

 

 

Generation No. 3

 

      8.  Anne E.3 Cryan (Sarah B.2 McMahon, Frank1) was born Apr 1, 1863 in Gateshead, Durham, England ?, and died Nov 7, 1923 in Lowell, Middlesex, MA.  She married John J. Ort Nov 28, 1883 in Lowell, Middlesex, MA, son of Adam Ort and Charlotte Ryder.

 

 Notes for Anne E. Cryan:

e-mailed by Karen Murphy, 12/15/98:

 

Marriage

28 Nov 1883, Lowell, MA

John Ort,  age..24; occ...blacksmith; p.o.b.. Lowell; parents.. Adam and Ann

Annie Cryan,  age..20; no occ.; p.o.b..England; parents.. James and Sarah

      Married by  Rev. C.J. Smith

 

[Note:  Is Ann, mother of John, mentioned above, aka Charlotte Ryder?]

 

e-mailed by Karen Murphy, 12/1/98:

 

Lowell Sun,  Wednesday,  7 Nov.  1923

 

Obituary

  ORT--  Mrs. Annie E. (Cryan) Ort,  wife of John J. Ort and a resident of Lowell for over 50 years,  died today at her home,  545 Fletcher street.   Deceased was a woman of ideal character,   a loving wife and mother,   devoted to her home and family, and   possesed of a pleasing personality,  she was much loved for her many fine qualities of mind and heart.   Besides her husband,  she leaves three daughters,   Mrs. James (Mary) O'Flahaven,   Mrs. Adelard J. (Emeline C.)  Lambert and   Miss Josephine M. Ort;  two brothers,  John P. and Alex Cryan,  and two sisters,  the Misses   Bridget F. and   Katherine Cryan;  four grandchildren, John, James, Helen and Lawrence O'Flahaven.    Mrs. Ort was a devout attendant of St. Patrick's church.

 

[Note: age 8 from 1870 passenger records on USS Aleppo = 1862.]

[Note: Anne Cryan birth record in Gateshead, Durham, England = 1862.]

 

      Children of Anne Cryan and John Ort are:

 +   18          i.   Mary4 Ort, born Oct 28, 1885 in Lowell, Middlesex, MA; died 1940.

      19         ii.   Adam Ort, born Jul 5, 1887 in Lowell, Middlesex, MA; died 1909.

 +   20        iii.   Josephine Margaret Ort, born Mar 3, 1889 in Lowell, Middlesex, MA; died Aug 3, 1973 in Lowell, Middlesex, MA.

 +   21        iv.   Emeline C. Ort, born Oct 30, 1894 in Lowell, Middlesex, MA.

 

      9.  Mary3 Cryan (Sarah B.2 McMahon, Frank1) was born Abt. 1866 in Durham, England ?, and died Bef. 1911 in Lowell, Middlesex, MA.  She married James O'Flahaven , Sr., son of Lawrence O'Flahaven and Millie Keenan.

 

 Notes for Mary Cryan:

[Note: age 6 from 1870 passenger records on USS Aleppo = 1864.]

[Note: Mary Cryan birth record in Chester-le-Street, Durham, England = 1864.]

[Note: Mary Jane Cryan birth record in Hartlepool, Durham, England = 1865.]

 

More About Mary Cryan:

Fact 1: Jul 14, 1911, not mentioned in Sarah McMahon's obituary

 

      Child of Mary Cryan and James O'Flahaven is:

 +   22          i.   James4 O'Flahaven , Jr..

 

      13.  John Phillip3 Cryan , Sr. (Sarah B.2 McMahon, Frank1) was born Apr 14, 1874 in Lowell, Middlesex, MA, and died Feb 3, 1939 in Lowell, Middlesex, MA.  He married Anna Gertrude O'Reilly, daughter of Frank O'Reilly and Catherine Ultican.

 

 Notes for John Phillip Cryan , Sr.:

e-mailed by Karen Murphy, 12/1/98:

 

Lowell Sun,  Monday,  6 Feb. 1949

 

Obituary

John P. Cryan

   John P. Cryan,  husband of the late   Anna G. (O'Reilly) Cryan,   and residing at 59 Temple street,  died late Saturday night at the Massachusetts General hospital in  Boston.

   Mr. Cryan was born in Lowell in St. Patrick's parish,  the son of the late James J. and  Sarah (McMahon) Cryan   and had always made his home in Lowell.   For the past 22 years,    he had been a communicant of St. Peter's parish.  He was a veteran of the   Spanish American War  and was a   prominant member  of Gen. Adelbert Ames Camp, U.S.V.,   having been a past commander of the post and at the time of his death,  was serving as chaplain.

   Since 1912,  he had been secretery-treasurer of the United Commercial Travelers of America,  Lowell Council.

   He leaves seven sons,  James U.,  Francis D.,  Arthur P.,   John P., Jr., Thomas F.,  Paul F.  Gerald F. Cryan;  and two daughters,  the Misses Catherine P. and Eileen M. Cryan,  all of Lowell;  one brother,   Alexander T. Cryan, of Groton, and two sisters,   Bridget T. and Katie F. Cryan,  of Lowell.   He has two grandchildren.  The body was taken to his home where friends may call.

 

      Children of John Cryan and Anna O'Reilly are:

 +   22          i.   James Ultican4 Cryan, born Jul 22, 1908 in Lowell, Middlesex, MA; died Jan 29, 1990 in Yarmouth, MA.

 +   23         ii.   Francis David Cryan, born Mar 1, 1910 in Lowell, MA; died Apr 12, 1981 in Tyngsboro, MA.

 +   24        iii.   Arthur Philip Cryan , Sr., born Jun 25, 1911 in Lowell, Middlesex, MA.

 +   25        iv.   John Phillip Cryan , Jr., born Jun 26, 1913; died Jul 1987 in Lowell, Middlesex, Massachusetts.

 +   26         v.   Catherine Pearl Cryan, born Aug 29, 1917.

 +   27        vi.   Eileen M. Cryan, born Apr 7, 1919; died Sep 1954 in Lowell, Middlesex, MA.

      28       vii.   Thomas F. Cryan, born Jun 10, 1920; died Mar 18, 1944 in KIA WWII.

 

More About Thomas F. Cryan:

Fact 1: Mar 18, 1944, Shot down while flying over France during WWII.

 

 +   29      viii.   Paul Eugene Cryan, born Aug 11, 1922 in Lowell, Middlesex, MA.

 +         30        ix.        Gerald F. Cryan, born Sep 12, 1924.

 

 

From:        RoCryan@aol.comAdd to Address Book   Date:        Sat, 20 Mar 1999 12:14:18 EST

    To:        caoimhghin@yahoo.com Subject:        Hello Kevin Cryan

Hi Kevin, My First cousin, Mary Jane Cryan Pacini who lives in Italy

suggestedI write to regarding your knowledge of travel in Ireland.  My 15 year

old sonand I will be in Mohill, Leitrim/Dublin July 15 -27 and are planning a

hop toEngland for three more days.  I wondered if you knew of a family who

mightlike to swap houses - or stay with us for any amount of time in our home

overlooking Quincy/Hingham Bay - Quincy, Massachusetts (just 7 miles

south ofBoston)?  We're well set for accommodations in Ireland while we are

there, butI have a feeling I won't want to leave as so as planned!  Thanks for

yourhelp.  Rosalie Anne Cryan

 

 

  From:        Fatarm@aol.comAdd to Address Book   Date:        Mon, 22 Mar 1999 11:19:30 EST

 Subject:        [CRYAN-L] Updated taglines    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

I've updated our mailing lists' taglines to include the websites of

subscribers.  Here are the ones I've noted, please let me know if I've

forgotten your website and I will fix my error.  Also let me know if

I'vecited your (below) website incorrectly:

www.inch.com/~amethyst/family.htm

www.geocities.com/heartland/woods/6036/index.html

www.geocities.com/soho/square/3038/index.html

www.geocities.com/heartland/ranch/2926

www.angelfire.com/ma.evitaeap/index.html

members.tripod.com/~havana_2/index-2.html

 

From:        "Roger Cryan and Regina Pana-Cryan" <cryan@avana.net>Add to Address Book

   Date:        Mon, 22 Mar 1999 21:24:36 -0500 Subject:        [CRYAN-L] Recycling old mail - stirring up the pot?    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

I was looking over my older messages, and as I spent some time with this

gem, I wasn't sure that I ever pointed out that I've got the marriage

record for James Cryan and Honor Beirne.  They don't show up in the

Boylerecords because they were married in the (mostly) Sligo parish of

Kilfreeand Killaragt on February 8, 1853.  Their witnesses were one Patrick

Cryanand one Wilhelmina Gainly.

Also, I saw that Karen didn't have the names and dates for all of James

andHonor's children.  I'll also add some data to what Eve sent me.

So here is the augmented version of the old family tree!

I have more detail coming toward the present; if anyone thinks i've got

Something for them, come on. 

If anyone has more info for me, come on.

This list is great; and no, i'm not drunk, just trying to have some fun.

> From: Family History < >

> To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

> Subject: [CRYAN-L] New Year presents -

> Date: Saturday, January 02, 1999 8:16 AM

> > A Happy New Year to everyone,

> > For Roger -

> I hope that this fits the bill. If you wish to check them, the records

are> available to read at the LDS Family History Centres, but they may

have to> send away to acquire them.

> codes - c = christening or baptism

>            IGI = International Genealogical Index, available in all

public> libraries(of a reasonable size) in England presumably also in the USA

>            index = the reference no given to all civil registrations,

andis> required if you wish to send to the "National Registry" in Dublin for

the> certificate.

> James CRYAN - Died before 1901

> Honor BEIRNE - The 1901 Census said she spoke Irish and English, her

children only English

married Feb 8, 1853 at Kilfree & Killaragt parish (which might have gone

over the county line???).  She claimed to be 60 in the 1901 census -

thatwould have made her 13 when she was married; but this family always lied

like thieves about their age, (right down to the most recently deceased

generation, may they rest in peace).  Also, she shows as born in

Roscommonin the same Census.

> children

> Michael c 5 Nov 1854 Boyle RC - Came to America - Lowell, then Rhode

Island? Maybe Walter Cryan's grandfather? My grandfather always said

Walter

Cryan (a long-time Providence newscaster) looked like his family.

> Bridgit c 24 Feb 1856 Boyle RC - Mrs. Delia McKinney (thanks, Karen)

> Anne c 13 Dec1857  Boyle RC - prob. married a man named Welsh or Walsh

and moved to Ulster

> James c 2 Oct 1859 Boyle RC - Claimed to be 30 in 1901.  Married Ann

Cryan from Brougher Ballinafad; no kids - left farm to her nephew James

Cryan, whose widow still lives in the house.

> Martin c 29 Sept 1861 Boyle RC - My great granddad - came to Lowell,

diedduring the flood in 1938.

> Hanoria c 22 Nov 1863 Boyle RC - I didn't know about this one.

> John  17 Aug 1865 IGI prob birth(index 14.98) - Claimed to be 20 in

1901!!!  Never married, died an old man in Ireland; Joe Cryan, Sr.,

said herode his horse into town (Boyle) every Saturday night to dance.

>           no John death in the national registers

> John 30 Aug 1865 IGI probably christening of the same John

> Mary Jane birth 2 Jan 1870 - Came to Lowell, took my Grandpa to the

amusement park, went back to Ballinanulta and died an old maid.

Claimed tobe 18!!!???!!! in 1901.

> > The most probable parents for James CRYAN are

> Michael CRYAN and Bridgit FURY(various spellings)

> The names fit those of James first two children

> children

> Anne c 20 Nov 1816 Boyle RC

> Mary c 1 April 1819 Boyle RC

> Winifred c 24 Oct 1820 Boyle RC

> Bridget c 9 Oct 1822 Boyle RC

> James c 2 July 1824 Boyle RC ***** your James ????

> Margaret c 5 April 1826 Boyle RC

> John c   March 1830 (no date given)

>

> possibly Honor Beirne's parents are James and Anne ?????

 

Thanks, eve, that was beautiful.  What i really need now, and can't do

Fromatlanta, is to look at the lorton estate records for the tenancy of that

Plot in the ballinanultagh townland in the 1850's.  Some of kevin's

Deathrecords indicate that there were cryans there before the 1853 wedding,

Andthat a death or two (and the resulting inheritance of the lease) were

Thecause of that wedding.  Since lorton's agent managed most of his estate

(i.e., there was the usual layer after layer of tenant and subtenant)

Thiscould be fruitful research for anyone trying to find cryans in n.

Roscommon, e. Sligo, or sw leitrim.

> i had asked about the rorkes, who were the neighbors of the cryans in

Ballinanultagh, and who, i was told, came there together from sligo.

Of course, my grandfather said that the family had been on the same plot

For 1200 years, so we have a contradiction in the sources - what aSurprise!

> Re RORKE

> Over my records the name Farrel varies in its spelling considerably

from

> Fargallo to Francis to Fergallus to Farrellii to all variations in one

> family with the same wife. So I must conclude that a Farrell could be

any

> one of the above variations

> Thus - I have -Patrtium(Patrick) ROARK c 8 Feb 1829

>                            parents Farrell ROARK and Bridgetae WINN

Boyle

RC

>                     Fergalus RORKE c 26 Jan 1827

>                            parents Fergalus RORKE and Brigida WINN

Boyle

RC

> > it would seem that  Farrel(various spellings)  RORKE and Brigid

WINN/WYNNE

> had 10 children from 1818 - 1842 of which Fergalus/Farrell and Patrick

are

> no 4 & 5

> A Farrel RORKE married a Mary CARROLL and had a daughter Anne

christened15> Nov 1847 in Boyle RC

> I have no indications on where they lived. There are lots of RORKEs

butvery> few Farrells.

> > I have no other records on any of the above

> > All the best Eve

>

 

  From:        Fatarm@aol.comAdd to Address Book   Date:        Mon, 22 Mar 1999 22:39:20 EST

 Subject:        [CRYAN-L] Fwd: New Cryan website    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

This is a multi-part message in MIME format.

Don't forget, it's OUR mailing list!  You may post whatever you please,

oneand all, by emailing "Cryan-L@rootsweb.com" directly ... please do,

because wecan all learn from one another ...

Here's notice of a new page (I'm going to go peek in a few minutes) ....

Hi Leslie,

My web site is brand new so I haven't announced it yet but I would

appreciate mention of it on your list.

http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cregan/index.htm

Thanks a bunch!

Jo

From:        Fatarm@aol.comAdd to Address Book   Date:        Mon, 22 Mar 1999 23:08:00 EST

 Subject:        [CRYAN-L] GenConnect Surname BBS    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Jo's great webpage linked me into the GenConnect system, and if you

haven'texplored around there yet, there are things for Cregans and Crains

already up.You might want to check it out:

http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/index/Surnames/C.html

or hyperlink:  <A

HREF="http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/index/Surnames/C.html">GenConnect

Surname Index</A>

And I also wish to apologize to Lyle for getting his homepage's address

mixedup.  It should have read:  //members.tripod.com/~havana_2/index.html

Here's the hyperlink: 

<A HREF="http://members.tripod.com/~havana_2/index.html">Danial Cryan-

Ire.Can.and USA</A>

Enjoy these interesting sites!

 

Reply-To:          "Family History" < >    From:          "Family History" < >Add to Address Book    Date:          Tue, 23 Mar 1999 09:50:23 -0000

  Subject:          [CRYAN-L] Re CRYAN and RORKE/ROURKE/O'ROARK      To:          CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Hi Roger,

Thank you for your update on the 13 yr old brides and the 18 yr old

grandfathers, great aunts etc. A colourful lot ,I would say. Much better

that the bland birth and death dates.

I have recently added considerably to my files and have found the

following.I wonder if it explains the CRYAN / RORKE link AND where they may have

comefrom.

Philip CRYAN married Brigid O'ROARK on 28 Oct 1826 in Taunagh RC ie

Riverstown Co Sligo for them I have 7 children with two gaps in the sequence where there

may ormay not be others

Mark c 23 Jan 1828 in Taunagh RC

Mary c 26 April 1829 in Taunagh RC

Brigid c 4 Feb 1831         ..

Catherine c 7 Dec 1832   ..

-

Honor c 6 May 1837       ..

James c 5 March 1839   ..

-

Elizabeth c 11 Nov 1843 ..

 

You may be interested that this is the next parish to the NE of Keash,

whichis adjacent to Gurteen(ie Killaragt and Kilfree), and Aghanagh, which in

turn are adjacent to and slightly to the NW of Boyle. (These all being

theRC parishes). The total distance being about 15 miles(a rough guess,

but itputs the scale into perspective).Happy hunting, all you colourful CRYANs, Eve

 

 

From:   Fatarm@aol.comAdd to Address Book   Date:        Wed, 24 Mar 1999 14:51:03 EST Subject:

        [CRYAN-L] New Jersey Cryans    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Somewhere in the back of my genealogy notebook is the broad clue that I

havecousins living in the New York/New Jersey area.  I don't know if anyone

onthis list is also related to someone from that area, or may even

currentlylive there now, but here's a shot at getting somewhere with it:

>From looking at some obituaries pulled up with a reference to "Cryan",

I foundtwo women who died in the 1990's to have beloned to the John Cryan

Associationof South Orange, NJ.   I'd never heard of such an organization, and a

quickcall to 411 (information) revealed that the phone company doesn't have

arecord for them either.  I'm wondering if anyone on the east coast or

Jerseyarea has heard of this organization?

In addition, I copied down the following obit for a Martin A. Cryan of

NewJersey to share:  (published in the No. New Jersey "Record",

27-02-1992, p.e07)

"Before retiring in 1973, he was a shipping clerk for Uniroyal Co.,

Passaic,for 37 years.  He was a parishioner of Most Sacred Heart of Jesus, R.C.

Church...  Surviving are his wife, two sons and stepson, 6 grandkids & 1

Ggrandkid."

In addition, a reference in the "Record" obit listings mentions a Rev.

JohnCryan of Bayonne, NJ (as a surviving nephew of a deceased).

I'm going to search around the "Record" for other surname variations

soon --Leslie

 

Date:       Wed, 24 Mar 1999 23:32:04, -0500 Subject:        RootsWeb Review, Vol. 2, No. 12

    To:        RootsWeb-Review@rootsweb.com  From:        Julie Case <Julie_Case@rootsweb.com>Add to Address Book

ROOTSWEB REVIEW: Genealogical Data Cooperative News

Vol. 2, No. 12, 24 March 1999; Circulation: 281,700+

(C) 1998-1999 RootsWeb Genealogical Data Cooperative.

Editors: Julia M. Case and Myra Vanderpool Gormley, CG

         <RWR-Editors@rootsweb.com>

Terms of Service

Copyright © 1994-1999 Yahoo! Inc. All rights reserved.

              "ANCESTORS: THE FAMILY SEARCH" ON PBS

       DEADLINE FOR STORY IDEA SUBMISSIONS: 31 March 1999

The new series on PBS (the U.S. public television network),

"Ancestors: The Family Search," is looking for compelling stories

to illustrate particular record types. These include:

(1) family/personal records (e.g., Bibles); (2) vital records;

(3) census; (4) religious; (5) military; (6) land and tax;

(7) probate; (8) newspaper; (9) immigration (includes emigration

and naturalization); (10) migration; (11) cemetery; and

(12) computer. Help is most needed now with probate, land and

tax, migration, and family records.

Story guidelines are:

-- There must be a tie to one of the record types mentioned

   above. This does not mean that the story cannot include other

   records, but it is desirable that the story hinges on a

   particular one. Research efforts that took an unexpected turn

   due to the content of a particular record would be of great

   interest.

-- There must be an obvious link between the record and a

   specific ancestor, as well as between the ancestor in question

   and a living descendant who would be willing to be

   interviewed, preferably the individual who did the research.

-- There must be a story with a clear beginning, middle, and

   end. If you're not sure, try telling one of your friends or

   relatives your vignette before submitting. If you get a "so

   what" reaction, it's probably not a fit. If they look

   impressed, incredulous, shocked, or just laugh out loud, you

   probably have a contender.

-- The story must help us model the research process, so please

   tell us how you obtained the record(s) that is (are)

   featured in yours.

-- Since this will be for television and other media, we need

   some visuals. Please tell us briefly about how your story

   could be illustrated. This might include the record itself,

   photos, pedigree and other charts, family heirlooms, footage

   from family reunions, the ancestor's home, and so forth, or

   anything else that might be relevant to the story.

-- There is a preference for submissions from people located in

   New York, Washington, D.C., Salt Lake City, Seattle, and

   the U.K., but all are welcome. Submissions from people of all

   ages and ethnicities are encouraged in order to provide as

   diverse a collection of stories as possible.

IMPORTANT: Please send a brief synopsis of your story to

<76163.1402@compuserve.com> no later than 31 March 1999, and

include the record type in the subject of your message.

Additional contact information (i.e., phone, fax) would be

helpful. A strong response is anticipated and the television show

developers will only be able to respond to those whose stories

most closely fit its criteria. However, all submissions are

appreciated and will be given careful consideration.

 

From:        Fatarm@aol.comAdd to Address Book   Date:        Thu, 25 Mar 1999 10:20:50 EST Subject:

        [CRYAN-L] Roscommon List mentions Buffalo Barracks site

    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

and I thought I'd take a look.  I'm not sure what to make of the only

potential entry of interest to our group, Nathaniel CRANE, born in

Schnectady,NY who deserted in 1841 -- about a week after he was signed up!

Here's the site, should anyone else wish to take a looksy ....

http://www.buffalonet.org/army/1383.htm

<A HREF="http://www.buffalonet.org/army/1383.htm">Infantry  Work

Station</A>

 

From:        Fatarm@aol.comAdd to Address Book   Date:        Thu, 25 Mar 1999 16:09:46 EST

 Subject:        [CRYAN-L] "Views of the Famine" reposted from Ballykilcline mailing list

    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

A subscriber to the Ballykilcline mailing list posted this website, and

it'sgot some wonderful primary sources cited.  Even if it wasn't your Cryan

ancestor who emigrated during the famine, you may have an another Irish

ancestor who did.  Check it out at:

http://vassun.vassar.edu/~sttaylor/FAMINE/

 <A HREF="http://vassun.vassar.edu/~sttaylor/FAMINE/">Views of the

Famine</A>

"Our second Sketch represents what is called a Scalpeen. A Scalpeen is a hole. . . It is often erected within the walls when anyare left standing, of the unroofed houses, and all that is above the surface is built out of the old materials. It possesses, too,some pieces of furniture, and the Scalpeen is altogether superior to the Scalp."Illustrated London News, December 15, 1849.

 

" This Sketch shows the Scalpeen of Tim Downs, at Dunmore, in the parish of Kellard, where himself and his ancestors resided on the spot for over a century, with renewal of their lease in 1845. He neither owed rent arrears or taxes up to the present moment, and yet he was pitched out on the roadside, and saw ten other houses, with his own, levelled at one fell swoop on the spot, the ruins of some of which are seen in this Sketch. None of them were mud cabins, but all capital stone-built houses."

Illustrated London News, December 22, 1849.

 

"There is something called a scalp, or hole dug in the earth, some two or three feet

deep. In such a place was the abode of Brian Connor. He has three in family, and

had lived in this hole several months before it was discovered. It was roofed over

with sticks and pieces of turf, laid in the shape of an inverted saucer. It resembles,

though not quite so large, one of the ant-hills of the African forests."

Illustrated London News, December 22, 1849.

 

" Than this scalp, nothing could be more wretched. It was placed in a hole, surrounded by pools, and three sides of the scalp  (shown in the Sketch) were dripping with water, which ran in small streams over the floor and out by the entrance. Yet, wretched as this hole is, the poor inhabitants said they would be thankful and content if the landlord would leave them there, and the Almighty would spare their lives. "

Illustrated London News, December 29, 1849.

 

  From:        Fatarm@aol.comAdd to Address Book   Date:        Tue, 30 Mar 1999 11:48:28 EST

 Subject:        [CRYAN-L] Two Croghan census entries    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

William Croghan, 1860 Maryland Federal Census Index, of Worcester Co.,

MD, NewTown, Castins District.ANDJohn Croghan, 1850 Maryland Federal Census Index, of Baltimore Co., MD,9thWard of Baltimore.If you would like more information about these two, please contact me

directly.  -Leslie

 

HUMOR. Thanks to <crodley@cris.com> who posted this poem (with

the introduction "Why it is easier to be a Blacksheep") to

<BlackSheep-L@rootsweb.com>, from which we rustled it.

 

            NO FOOTPRINTS IN THE SANDS OF TIME

                    (Author unknown)

 

         It's nice to come from gentle folks

         Who wouldn't stoop to brawl,

         Who never took a lusty poke

         At anyone at all.

         Who never raised a raucous shout

         At any country inn,

         Or calmed an ugly fellow lout

         With a belaying pin.

         Who never shot at a revenuer

         Hunting for a still,

         Who never rustled cattle

         and agreed with Uncle's will.

         Who lived life as they ought

         without uncouth distraction,

         And shunned like leprosy a thought

         of taking legal action.

         It's nice to come from gentle folks

         Who've never known disgrace

         But oh, though scandal is no joke

         It's far easier to trace!

 

From:          Fatarm@aol.comAdd to Address Book    Date:  Fri, 2 Apr 1999 11:09:12 EST Reply-To:   Fatarm@aol.com  Subject:          [CRYAN-L] Creagan (and variations) from Maryland Census Index      To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Please contact me directly for further info on any of the following:

1870 - Patrick Creagan of Baltimore Co., MD; 3rd District

1870 - Thomas Creagan of Baltimore Co., MD; 3rd District

1850 - Michael Cregan of Allegheny Co., MD; 6th E.D.

1870 - Augusta Creaghan of Baltimore Co., MD; 3rd District

1870 - Michael Creaghan of Baltimore Co., MD; 9th District

There were no Creghans.

 

 

    From:          Fatarm@aol.comAdd to Address Book    Date:  Fri, 2 Apr 1999 11:13:20 EST Reply-To:  Fatarm@aol.com  Subject:  [CRYAN-L] Crean (and variations - incl McCrean!) from Maryland Census Index

      To:          CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Please contact me directly for further info on the following:

1850 - Samuel McCrean of Baltimore Co., MD; 3rd Ward, Baltimore City

1860 - John Creen of Frederick Co., MD; Petersville District

1860 - John Creen of Frederick Co., MD; Petersville District (possibly

a John Jr.)

1860 - William Creen of Frederick Co., MD; Petersville District

There were no Creanes or Creenes.

And how 'bout that MC?  That's a first time for me!  Anyone else seen a

McCrean previously?  With that 'samuel' it sounds very Scottish to me,

but who knows?  I'd be interested in anyone's thoughts on the matter,

Leslie

 

hi Liam Walsh 3-4-99

How are you! I met Aidan, Kieran and Jackie (for the first time in 8 years) Rosemary, Paul and Niamh at Aidan's birthday drinks last week. Susan rang me and then I rang Lauri (mobiles are very handy) and we went to the pub to see them. They were all in great form.

 

I dont know if I told you that my latest project is to interview the older members of the family on video. I have done interviews ranging in length from 1 hour to 2 1/2 hours with my mother, Teda, Des, Colette, Olivia Downey and her husband (Olivia's father was our grandfathers brother) I would like to interview your mother, Frank and Doreen as well. Now, they don't always take to the idea immediately but soon warm when they get going (Could you warm them up to the idea???). I really regret I didnt do same when I was over last year especially after talking to your father a lot about Korea etc.

I believe Sally is coming over to Ireland. Is Frank coming over? If not, I was thinking of coming over to the States again soon and bringing the video camera with me this time.

Eventually I plan to make transcripts of all the interviews, edit them, send copies to the interviewees for approval, and then put them together in the form of a small book which will be distributed to everyone.

What do you think?

 

Also I was wondering what you want me to do with the old photos I borrowed last year? Does the family want me to keep them for safe-keeping (I could have copies made for you all) or would you prefer me to bring them with me if I come over? I am not sure who exactly is interested in them as Sally kept saying to me to keep them which I would not do against the wishes of the family as a whole. Could you discuss this with the family and let me know?

Lauri came over last night and we edited other material I had collected and we are going to make a new addendum (40 pages). When the pack is photocopied I will give you all copies.

Other than that I am still rewriting my thesis, still really broke but still going out a lot (Well, you have to have a life!)Write soon regards Kevin

 

From:          Fatarm@aol.comAdd to Address Book

    Date:          Sat, 3 Apr 1999 10:31:56 EST

 Reply-To:          Fatarm@aol.com

  Subject:          [CRYAN-L] LDS site is (so I hear) up and running

      To:          CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

 

Here's the address of the LDS site should one of you like to check it

out while your relatives are snoozing over tummies full of ham this weekend

...www.familysearch.org

Happy Easter all!Leslie

 

Reply-To:          "Family History" < >

    From:          "Family History" < >Add to Address Book

      To:          "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>

  Subject:          Re: [CRYAN-L] Request    Date:          Tue, 6 Apr 1999 09:34:01 +0100

Hi again,About Charles Cryan - I shall be going to the GRO at Myddleton

Place in the not too distant future as I said. Then I can ask about the

timing for the 1998 indexes and what else we can do.Until the indexes

areproduced it is like looking for a needle in a haystack. If the date and

place were known, it would be straight forward to give the details and

writeto the local registry. The date and place are uncertain so I am not

sure ofa procedure.On the whole they need more than a name. Do not worry, it

won'tbe too long , once the entry with its index number is found, it takes

about4 days to receive the certificate.

That visit to the GRO a few weeks ago was momentous for me, (apart fom

falling and cracking my head),finding a sister for my ggrandfather plus

thedeaths of all 4 of the family within a few years of each other at a

fairlyyoung age. John and Daniel died at about 41 yrs old,no wonder that they

werenot known by their grandchildren. They must have been twins or at least

veryclose in age. Perhaps further parish registers will reveal something. I

amjust off to the LDS to look at the Gurteen register.

I will let you know of any further news from my enquireis. Eve

 

From:          Fatarm@aol.comAdd to Address Book     Date:          Wed, 7 Apr 1999 12:00:48 EDT

 Reply-To:          Fatarm@aol.com   Subject:          [CRYAN-L] Online maps, websites and other references gleaned from this past weekend's          mailing lists      To:          CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

I thought this weekend would be quiet for the online genealogical

community, but the emails swamped my mailbox.  I found a lot of references for

websites I'd never visited, so I thought I'd re-package the ones that might be

interesting to us O'Crean, Creaghan and MacCroghan  -types and share

them.  I hope something proves interesting!  -Leslie

 

This info comes from the Ballykilcline society (reposted here):

"There is a map of Boyle and Ballyk on this page by the MacDermot Clan.

Somemay wish to take a look:

http://macdermot.com/events/gather99/docuindx.htm  "

 

>From GenIre mailing list:

"The National Library in Dublin (http://www.heanet.ie/natlib/) has

parishrecords on microfilm" [note: records not online, but here's info about

the library & collection]

 

>From GenIre mailing list, responding to a question about where to get

birth/death records, with a recommendation to check out the TIARA

website:

"See:   http://www.kst.dit.ie/nat-arch/genealogy.html#births

        Irish Register of Births, Marriages, and Deaths since 1864

        http://www.lds.org/en/2_How_Do_I_Begin/0-How_Do_I_Begin.html

        Indexes available on microfilm at LDS Family History Centers

        http://www.genfindit.com

        Online Irish Vital Records Ordering Service

        http://www.doh.ie/manual/chap4/gere.htm

        General Register Office (Republic of Ireland)

        http://www.nics.gov.uk/nisra/grohome.htm

        General Register Office (Northern Ireland)  

And continuing on the subject of looking for records in Dublin:

"See:   http://www.mayo-ireland.ie/Geneal/Dublin.htm

        Dublin Family Heritage Centre computerizing parish records

        Provides search service for a fee

        See http://world.std.com/~ahern/results.htm for customer comments

http://www.ireland.com/ancestor/browse/counties/leinster/index_du.html

        County Dublin sources for genealogy

        http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Parthenon/5345/dublin.htm

        County Dublin queries page

        http://www.dun-laoghaire.com/genealogy/index.htm

        Dun Laoghaire Genealogical Society

        http://www.earl.org.uk/familia/services/eire_dun_laogh.html

        Dun Laoghaire-Rathdown Library Family History Resources

        http://ireland.iol.ie/resource/dubcitylib

        Dublin City Public Library

        http://www.earl.org.uk/familia/services/eire_dublin.html

        Dublin Public Library Family History Resources

        http://ireland.iol.ie/resource/dubcitylib/archives.htm

        Dublin City Archive

        http://www.glasnevin-cemetery.ie

        Glasnevin Cemetery, in Dublin

        http://homepage.tinet.ie/~plough

        Dublin Directory of 1850

        http://expedia.msn.com/wg/places/Maps/DUBL2C.htm

        Map of Greater Dublin area  "

 

>From GenIre in response to looking for telephone directory info:

"In terms of doing Web searches for surnames in Ireland, I've found

http://www.iesearch.com and http://www.esearch.ie to yield intriguing

results ... though you can't expect it to be a substitute for the

telephone

directory."

 

>From Gen-Ire about name origins:

"I submitted a list of some of the ancient Irish names and their

English translations to;

   http://www.rootsweb.com/~irish/ir-names/oldfam.htm

 Patrick Traynor,   in California's gold-rush country.    tray@jps.net"

 

 

 Reply-To:          "Family History" < >    From:          "Family History" < >Add to Address Book      To:          "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>  Subject:          Re: [CRYAN-L] Request    Date:          Thu, 8 Apr 1999 00:33:25 +0100

Thank you for your concern, re head, your friend was not of my line of

Cryans, we have tuff nuts!!!. But I must say I felt stunned and bruised

andstupid but had to get home on the underground and then the train.

Re charles .... what you have given particularly the birth date should

help.It is just that the sorted list of records has not yet been published

for1998..... March I think was a bit early in the year.Until again Eve

 

    From:          Fatarm@aol.comAdd to Address Book    Date:          Thu, 8 Apr 1999 09:36:10 EDT

 Reply-To:          Fatarm@aol.com  Subject:          [CRYAN-L] Fwd: Re: records on famine immigrants (Boston, MA)      To:          CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

I thought this posting listed some new websites that might be of

interest to you Boston and Lowell-area researchers in Massachusetts.  Let me know

if any of them are particularly good .... Leslie

My Irish Dwyer/Dyer ancestors also emigrated to Cambridge, MA. The

CambridgeCity Library has newspapers and City Directories  from this time

period.The Cambridge Historical Society has some pictures of many of the old

houses.I've found a picture of the tenement that my Irish ancestors lived in

during the1870's. Here is their URL. http://www.ci.cambridge.ma.us/~Historic/

The clerks office at Cambridge City Hall let me look through their old

birth/marriage/death records. Which are also available at the Mass

StateArchives and the Mass Dept of Vital Records. (See the TIARA site

http://world.std.com/~ahern/links.html )

And the archdiocese of boston also has parish registers. These

registers havebaptismal, marriage, and death records. They have info not found in the

civilrecords such as godparents, best man/maid of honor at marriages, etc.

which canlead to other relatives.  (See the TIARA sitehttp://world.std.com/~ahern/links.html )

And you can also look for them at in the 1880 U.S Census at the

NationalArchives and the Boston City Library. (See the TIARA site

http://world.std.com/~ahern/links.html )

Heres my genealogy site.

http://www.ultranet.com/~tdyer/gene/gen_toc_tom.html

Good Luck,Tom

 

    From:          Fatarm@aol.comAdd to Address Book    Date:          Thu, 8 Apr 1999 10:40:50 EDT

 Reply-To:          Fatarm@aol.com  Subject:          [CRYAN-L] Cryans from AIS Census Index (USA) (all but NY &SD)      To:          CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Cryans from AIS Census Index (USA) (all but NY &SD):

1870: Solano Co., CA: Thomas Cryan

1830: NewCastle Co., DE: John O'Cryan

1860: Macoupin Co., IL: Leura & Micaja Cryan

1870: Muscatine Co., IA: Bridget & Michael Cryan

1870: Cumberland Co., ME: Mary & Michael Cryan

1850: Boston; Suffolk Co., MA:  John Cryan

1860: Suffolk Co., MA: Patrick Cryan

1860: Bristol Co., MA: Jason Cryan

1860: Attleborough, Bristol Co., MA: Michael Cryan

1860: Essex Co., MA: Thomas Cryan

1870: Hennepin Co., MN:  Sarah Cryan

1860: Bucks Co., PA: Dean Cryan (female)

1910: Churchill Co., NV: Michael Cryan

1860: Union Co., NJ: James Cryan

1870: Essex Co., NJ: John & Mary Cryan

1870: Lucas Co., OH: Cecelia & James Cryan

1870: Luzerne Co., PA: Mary Cryan

1880: Brazoria Co., TX: Anderson Cryan

1810: Wythe Co., VA: Henry Cryan

1840: Jackson Co., VA: Henry McCryan

 

Did you see those O'Cryan and McCryan entries?  Interesting ...

If anyone would like more info on the above, write and I'll let you

know what little more I have.  I'll do S.Dakota later with NY (they were numerous

entries and I haven't completed copying them yet).  What's everyone upto these days?  Leslie

 

From:          RuthK3834@aol.comAdd to Address Book    Date:          Thu, 8 Apr 1999 10:51:29 EDT

 Reply-To:          RuthK3834@aol.com  Subject:          [CRYAN-L] Further Success      To:          CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

I have received a letter from a clerk at a church in Newcastle West to

whom I never wrote!!!  I did write to lots of folks with the Cregan last name

in the area looking for family that is perhaps still moving around.  Evidently

one of these kind people took my inquiry to the church and I got the

aforementioned letter telling me of three living cousins in the area!

I am so excited.  I have written to them and am hopeful about getting a

response.  Happily,Ruth

 

From:          Fatarm@aol.com Add to Address Book    Date:          Fri, 9 Apr 1999 16:54:16 EDT

 Reply-To:          Fatarm@aol.com  Subject:          [CRYAN-L] Patrick - your posting re: Vct. Lorton

      To:          CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

I'm sorry to be just getting around to paying attention to your earlier

posting, Patrick, but some time ago you posted the 1885 tenants of

Viscount Lorton.  Can I ask what your source was?  Also, if you still have

access to it -- were there others of the spelling variations?  You noted some

Cryan -s and a Cryne, but I was wondering if there were any Creans, etc.

Thanks, Leslie

 

From:          RoCryan@aol.com Add to Address Book    Date:          Sat, 10 Apr 1999 14:12:18 EDT

 Reply-To:          RoCryan@aol.com  Subject:          [CRYAN-L] RAGC learned to post!

      To:          CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Roger, Eve, Jill, Leslie et.al.  Finally figuring out how to read

archives and post - does this mean I don't have to organize Cryan List notes for

my own files?  Wow.  That's what was holding me back.  You should know

that most of my information is the same as Jill DeVito's as her Mom is my first

cousin.O.K.   Walter Cryan the newscaster looks just like my Fathers' family

(and my generation now that we are 50 ish) typical is the widows peak and early

turning of hair to white.The tradition of age changing remains as Arthur Cryan discovered his

Mother Anna O'Reilly was born in 1854 not 55 and placed me as the youngest in

my family when in fact my brother Richard Patrick Cryan is. {I'd be happy

to post his work if Jill hasn't already done so]

I can't understand why I didn't know there were more Cryans in Lowell

than I knew.  I've seen pictures and heard stories of the 1938 flood (like my

Father James Ultican Cryan walking from Lowell to Chelmsford to see his fiance

- Mom, Mary HonanCassidy) but never heard of Martin Cryan who died in it.

Answer to my own question?  A friend gave me an excerpt from a book on

psychology and the Irish - and how immune we are to routine counseling-

 It suggests that after 500 years of being stolen from, starved, put into

servitude and generally demeaned by people who looked just like us

we've finely tuned that well know Irsh wit, sarcasm, blarney to a degree that

only the most creative, mystically inspired, artist of psychology could

penetrate.  That's certainly the case with my family - and, again, there are

stories of men leaving Ireland packed in pork barrels, and/or dressed as women to

avoid prosecution.  (Maybe the lost Michael?)  They couldn't have been too

eager to leave tracks.

Well, AOL bumped me again - says I was idle when I was creating all

that prose!  Now the search engine says there are no Cryan postings so I've

lost the material I was responding to.  I'll just do what Leslie asked and

post an e-mail I sent her recently.

Please give me some feedback on whether I you'd like me to post a

monologue based on the life of Anna O'Reilly Cryan, in Lowell, 1923 that my

Sister Kate Cryan wrote for a master's storytelling class and other info, if Jill

DeVito hasn't already posted it.  Thanks, Rosalie Anne Gertrude Cryan  (names

that reccur)

 

Subj:   Re: [CRYAN-L] Cryans from AIS Census Index (USA) (all but NY &SD)

Date:   4/8/99 11:39:48 AM Eastern Daylight TimeFrom:   RoCryan

To:     Fatarm

Hi Leslie,  I'm desperatly trying to catch up on paper work - and my

taxes are already done!  I barely have time to read Cryan-L stuff but I'm

still fascinated and will spend more time - perhaps during the lazy, hazy

days of summer- responding to posts.  A note on McRyan and variations of:  for

many years I explained my name to folks thusly; "When the McRyan's (or

McCryans?) arrived on Liberty's shore,  the immigration processors dropped the M

and we became Cryan".  I learned this story when I was very young, possibly

from a Great Aunt or Uncle? Rosalie

 

 

 

  From:        "Roger Cryan and Regina Pana-Cryan" <cryan@avana.net> Add to Address Book

 Subject:        Re: [CRYAN-L] RAGC learned to post!   Date:

        Sat, 10 Apr 1999 23:13:59 -0400    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

To Rosalie and everyone else,

        Martin Cryan (of Lowell, MA) died during the 1938 flood, but not in

theflood.  He died of pneumonia or something in his house in

Pawtucketville,which was (I was told) just a few yards above the high water mark.  My

grandfather had to talk his way past the police to go to his father's

sickbed.        Rosalie, do you know who Walter Cryan's grandfather was?  (I don't.)

Isanyone on this list related to Walter Cryan?        Happy hunting everyone.                        Roger Cryan

 

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Reply-To:          "Family History" < >    From:          "Family History" < > Add to Address Book  Subject:          Re: [CRYAN-L] Re CRYAN and RORKE/ROURKE/O'ROARK    Date:          Mon, 12 Apr 1999 00:18:34 +0100

      To:          CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

I received your two mails. No there have not been others but I had

hopedthat you had receved the one about the RORKEs.

I usually write to the list rather than reply personally because it is

surprising how often a posting like this is picked up by yet another

connection.Do ask questions to the list , tell family tale/stories, describe

thingsthat ggrandpa/ma made or did, describe photos or recipes. It is all

part ofmaking a more rounded picture of those in your family tree. Similar

skillsor talents or even the songs that were sung may come from the same

line.I already had a couple of my grandmother Cryan's beautiful lace

tableclothsand have just uncovered or found one that has never been used and was

probably made by her as a wedding gift for my mother and father -

drippingwith fine lace around a tiny square of very fine white linen. Fine

whitelinen puts me in mind of the area around Ballymote where many people

wereinvolved in linen manufacturing. Interesting too is the fact that

another ofmy ggrandparents(not Cryan) was a flax merchant elsewhere in Ireland.

There is a great deal to our ancestors if we look far enough.

Happy huntingEve.

 

From:          Fatarm@aol.com Add to Address Book    Date:          Mon, 12 Apr 1999 09:51:48 EDT

  Subject:          Fwd: Re: [CRYAN-L] Cryans from AIS Census Index (USA) (all but NY

          &SD) Reply-To:          Fatarm@aol.com      To:          CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Hi, Leslie,

I'm still searching for my Michael Crehan.  I did find he was

naturalized inthe USA in 1886 and his sponsor was John Crehan.  I have no idea who

John isbut I'm determined to solve that mystery also.  I now know that

Michael'swife was Margaret Dillon born in 1846 in Boston to Michael and Bridgett

Dillon who were both born in Ireland.  I have sent to Boston for

Margaret'sbirth certificate and hope it will give me more information.

I got a book from my local library called The Complete Book for Tracing

YourIrish Ancestors written by a Michael C. O'Laughlin.  So far it has only

toldme that there were 17 Crehans born in Galway in 1890 and 15 used that

exactspelling.  This only tells me that possibly my Crehans were from that

partof Ireland which is something I didn't know before.

The book also explained something that I'm sure all you Irish already

knowbut I didn't.  Surnames that contain an "O" were ancient Gaelic and the

"O"is an acccent mark that stood for 'grandson of' or 'male descendent

of'.Michael O'LochLainn would mean you were Michael - grandson of or male

descendent of LochLainn.  And the Mac in surnames stood for 'son of'.

That's a new one on me.  Interesting, wouldn't you say?

I'm still hard at work on these Crehans as is my cousin Carole from

Ohio.I've seen so many variations of Crehan but can't make a connection yet.

Take care and enjoy your new home.

Crystal Hamel

 

    From:          Fatarm@aol.com Add to Address Book    Date:          Mon, 12 Apr 1999 09:55:58 EDT

 Reply-To:          Fatarm@aol.com  Subject:          [CRYAN-L] Co. Sligo websites

      To:          CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Again from the GenIre list, three Sligo websites which some of you

researching in that county might enjoy ...

        http://www.earl.org.uk/familia/services/eire_sligo.html

        County Sligo Library Family History Resources

        http://www.rootsweb.com/%7Eirlsli/surnam.html

        County Sligo Surname List

        http://www.iol.ie/~chambrs/map.htm

        Map of County Sligo

(from ahern and Tiara website)

From:          RoCryan@aol.com Add to Address Book    Date:          Mon, 12 Apr 1999 14:52:04 EDT

 Reply-To:          RoCryan@aol.com  Subject:          [CRYAN-L] McRyan      To:          CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

A note on McRyan and variations of:  for many years I explained my name

to folks thusly; "When the McRyan's (or McCryans?) arrived on Liberty's

shore,  the immigration processors dropped the M and we became Cryan".  I

learned this story when I was very young, possibly from a Great Aunt or Uncle?

 

From:          Fatarm@aol.com Add to Address Book    Date:          Tue, 13 Apr 1999 09:31:48 EDT Reply-To:

          Fatarm@aol.com  Subject:          [CRYAN-L] Cryan Entries for SD (AIS Census Index)

      To:          CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Please contact me directly if you would like any additional info on the

following (I'm sure you've already got this, Lyle, but let me know all

the same:):

All: 1870 Fed Pop. Schdl.:  All of Union Co., SD: Jefferson.

Bridget

Daniel

Martin J.

Mary

Patrick

Patrick

 

From:          Fatarm@aol.com Add to Address Book    Date:          Tue, 13 Apr 1999 09:36:31 EDT

 Reply-To:          Fatarm@aol.com  Subject:          [CRYAN-L] Craen Entries for AIS Census Index/Fed Pop. Schdl      To:          CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

1850: Lurany Craen of DeKalb Co., AL: Civil Division 25.

1860: Mary Craen of New Castle Co., DE: Wilimgton City, 1st ward.

1860: Mary Craen of Washington Co., District of Columbia: 4th ward

1870: Maurice Craen of Cook Co., IL: 5 w Chicago

1860: Thomas Craen of Saline Co., IL:  Eldorado P.O.

1870: Frank Craen of Madison Co., KY: Richmond.

1880: Catherine Craen of Washoe Co., NV: Reno

1870: William Craen of Kings Co., NY: 1 w. Brooklyn.

1860: Hugh Craen of Wyoming Co., NY: Perry

1860: Michael G. Craen of Cattaraugus Co., NY: Little Valley.

1870: Prudy Craen of Catawba Co., NC: Clines Twp.

1840: John Craen of Venango Co., PA: Sugar Creek Twp.

1891: Peter Craen of WArren Co., TN: Dist. 9 - male voters.

 

 

    From:          Fatarm@aol.com Add to Address Book    Date:          Tue, 13 Apr 1999 09:43:26 EDT Reply-To:

          Fatarm@aol.com  Subject:          [CRYAN-L] Crean Entries for AIS Census Index - part 1

      To:          CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

1860: Martha Crean of Henry Co., AL: Sanders Beat.

1870: Andrew Crean of Arapahoe Co., CO: Denver.

1880: Sophia Crean of El Paso Co., CO: Colorado Springs.

1860: John Crean of Washington Co., District of Columbia: 7th ward.

1820: Patrick Crean of Camden Co., GA: no twp. listed.

 

And two non-census listings:

1672: Henery Crean of New Haven, CT: Guilford: CT 1635-1807 Misc.

Records.

1860: R.M. Crean of Bulloch Co., GA: Slave Schedule.

 

Please note that these last two are not from the Census Index, but

lumped in with them.  I believe "R.M. Crean" was a slave -- unless they listed

owners, etc., I believe those listed on the slave schedules were solely slaves.

 Does anyone else know anything about the slave schedules?  I've seen

postings by African Americans searching through their Irish genealogy and surnames

on other lists.

 

 

    From:          RoCryan@aol.com Add to Address Book    Date:          Tue, 13 Apr 1999 14:16:49 EDT

 Reply-To:          RoCryan@aol.com  Subject:          [CRYAN-L] Good story though...

      To:          CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Hi all, I think Jill D. is right that the story about immigration data

dropping the Mc from Ryan or Cryan is a fabrication - at least for our

family -- that's why I only felt emboldened to tell it again after joining

rootsweb -- might have happened to others, though.  (Maybe the seemingly

unattached Walter Cryan came from Mc...)

I'm sorry, and relieved, to hear that Martin Cryan of Lowell died of

pneumonia during the 1938 flood -  I had assumed he just couldn't walk

on water the way my Dad (James Ultican Cryan, Sr.,1908-1990), could.

I think I will post Kathleen Marie Cryan's (oldest daughter of the

oldest son of John Philip Cryan and Anna Gertrude O'Reilly) work.  It is an

interpretation, from letters and oral history, of a time in the lives

on one Cryan family of Lowell, MA.   59 Temple Street, Lowell, Massachusetts

        It is an early evening in midsummer of 1927.  Anna O'Reilly Cryan,

age 43, is in her backyard, standing under the clothesline.  As she

takes down and folds the dry laundry, she speaks to us about her family and

her life.

        "My Gerald is a great baby!  He will be three in September.  When I

bring him to church with me, he behaves fine - just looks around and

smiles, but he does not talk at all.  He enjoys getting out. At home, he talks

and sings songs.  Gerald and Paul, my four year old, chum together and

Gerald likes to stand on Arthur's shoulders while Arthur walks all over the

room with him.  Gerald had a cold last week.  I was afraid I would have to

get the doctor but with Castor Oil, Pertussin and Vaporub I pulled him through

all right.

        Paul is a regular roughneck most of the time.  Last Sunday, he went

to see a pony and every time he sees a picture of a pony or horse, he

wants Papa to buy it for him.  When he gets excited, we cannot understand

him.  I say, "Paul, what are you talking about?'  This afternoon, he was all

alone in the kitchen.  He took five cups, put a little cod liver oil in each

cup, and filled them up with water.  Even after good washing, it seemed

everything smelled and tasted of cod-liver oil.

        Thomas is 6 ½.  He is a good kid, and appreciates any little thing

you do for him.  He laughs when we say he is the smartest one yet.  He

is already practicing the headings for his school papers: Thomas Cryan,

St. Peter's School, Grade 2.  I just bought him high shoes with two buckles

for $2.69.

        Eileen is 7 ½, and just made her first Communion.  She is able to

hold her own with Catherine, who is two years older.  She is troubled

today, because someone has smashed one of her dolls and pushed the eyes out of

another.

        Catherine is a regular old maid and is always bossing Eileen.  She is

as sure of herself as ever.  I want to get a typewriter for her, so I'm

looking for one at the second hand store.  I found her some nice

rubbers for 85 cents.

        Jack is happy with a second hand bicycle we bought for $8.00.  He

always keeps tinkering with it.  He's 13 ½ and would like to get a job

with Western Union.  On Saturday, he had to have a back tooth filled and Tom

had to have one pulled because it was coming in crooked.  They went down to

the dentist together.  That cost $2.50.  Papa had to go to the Common at 2

a.m. on the Fourth of July, to find Jack.  He waited to see the Fakirs take

down there stands and would be there yet if no one went after him.

        Arthur is 15 ½.  He is doing rough work at the Courier-Citizen

Printing Plant for the summer.  He has to carry cardboard to the

machines and make himself useful.  His first full pay was $10.20.  He says he can

never get a girl if he does not get a new suit.  He has fallen into James'

blue suit.  I had the pants reseated.  It is a shame that such a

good-looking boy would have to wear old clothes.  He says it is funny, when the other

fellows speak to a girl that is the end of it but when he speaks to one they

always come back again.  If James and Frank and Pa are working, we will be

able to put Arthur through college.  Our Arthur will have to be a gentleman.

He has not the physique for strenuous work the rest of the boys do.   He is

the slowest thing on earth.  He will never catch up.

        Frank is almost 17.  He is getting 35cents an hour for painting a

house in Tyngsborough.  He has a different girl every week and believe

me, he is some sheik!  Sometimes he was so distracted from his schoolwork he

didn't even hear the teacher's assignment. He was booked for two weeks at the

'Y' to help out while Eddie Hood was on vacation.  He was only getting $11.00

a week.  Frank is talking about taking a course at evening Textile.  I

suppose he will if he finds there are some good looking girls going.  There is

no charge to residents of Lowell but the textbook will cost $1.25.

        My big boy James is 18 ½.  He has been in New York for almost a year.

 I wish there were some good job around here so that we could keep him

at home.  He is working at Schrafts and sending us $25.00 each week.

There must be wonderful profits in sodas if they can pay a clerk such wages!

        In June, I attended the graduation exercises at the high school.  It

gave me a touch of the blues to think of the bright prospects my boy

has missed.  I had a pipe dream that my James would be a Carney Medal

Scholar, but it was only a dream.  He is still interested in studying law and

music; at present he is taking a night course in public speaking.  I think he

could take up any number of courses that would be of more benefit than public

speaking; advertising, salesmanship, accounting - something that will

improve him along business lines.  Most of the public speaking courses he would

just be listening to beginners like himself and hearing them criticized by

the teacher but in the other courses, he'd be absorbing knowledge.

        He was living with my sister Katie and her husband, Gene, at first. 

Katie told me that sometimes he was too lazy to get up on time for Mass

on Sunday.  Now that he is on his own, living at the 'Y', it worries me.

If he does not attend to his church duties I have failed in one of my most

important trusts.  I feel dreadfully blue about it.  If he works late

on Saturday night, I think there is a midnight mass that he could attend

and sleep Sunday morning.  I think I have read somewhere that there is a

midnight mass in New York every Saturday night.  It may just be like a number of

stories you hear about New York.

        Papa is still hoping to strike something in the way of a job so James

can come home soon.  He has a monthly pension as a Spanish American War

Veteran.  It was such luck that it increased from $15 to $20 a month

last year.  He has started to sell advertising specialties.  You only get

paid on commission.  It is a good house - Geiger Brothers of Newark, New

Jersey.  They have calendars, blotters, pencils and novelties.  He has to sell

the advertising idea to the storekeeper or firm.  I don't think much of it.

 Papa thought that James might be able to work at the Telephone Company here,

but Mr. McIntyre said he just laid off about 20 men and cannot put any new

hands to work until they are taken care of.  The Cartridge Shop has moved to

New Haven leaving about 600 people out of work and the Hamilton is being

sold.  Chances here are very poor.

Papa says that all our investments are in the family now, his available

capital is all tied up in boys and girls.  He is encouraging James to

save some money though.  Fifty cents put away every week will amount to $26

in a year. At 5% that will earn $1.30 - over a third of a day's work!

Money in the bank would look mighty good to me right now.  I have tried

to keep without any bills but sometimes it makes me dizzy.  The money just

melts away.  Somehow I have to save up enough to pay for my barrel of flour,

$9.25.  Six or seven weeks is the longest I can make a barrel of flour last.

I just get it paid for when it is time to buy another one.

         I had to take $2 out of my week's money to put towards the mortgage

interest.  It took the whole pension check and Pa still had to borrow

$75.  I was pretty near strapped.  I had let my milkman go when he came in

Monday.  I told him to wait until next week.  I wonder what I'm going to do next

week.  It would be wonderful to have enough money for everything we need.  No

matter how small the opening, we just slide through somehow.  It just keeps us

drained.  We used to just about have enough to get along.  Now, we can

just about beg or borrow enough.  We can not do that very long.  Our credit

will not last.  It worries me seeing no prospect of paying back.  We are

slipping instead of climbing.  After a while we may get on a level place, get a

good grip; we may eventually reach the top.  Cheer up!  Better times are

coming.

        Mabel made me a new silk dress; maroon color, plain waist and the

lower part a figured silk.  It has a jabot and tie.  Catherine says it

is a flapper dress.  It is a lot fussier than I am in the habit of wearing.

        Aunt Bridget has had her hair bobbed!  I have not seen her but I

heard she looks very good.  Even the old ladies are taking it up.

        Daddy Tom is fine.  He buys 5 cents worth of peppermints every Sunday

and has lots of fun giving them away to the kids all week.

        Last month, I had to buy four new chairs for the dinning room.  My

strenuous boys wore out the others.  I bought them in a second hand

store.   They are heavy oak chairs.  I paid seven dollars for the four.  The man

said they would last a lifetime.  When I said I had seven boys, he laughed

and said he couldn't guarantee anything with seven boys.

        I am afraid we will not be able to take our vacation at the beach. 

Bridget offered me the house but I do not feel that we can afford the

expense of the trip.  We would have to pay at least $10 each way for

transportation.  Oh well, you know nothing is ever as black as it seems.  It might be

worse.  I think things that seem bad are sometimes for the best"

        The above was derived from conversations with my Dad and other

relatives with details selected from 72 pages of my grandmother's

letter's to my Dad, written during the time he worked in New York.  Anna Cryan died

in April, 1936, at the age of 52.  James, my Dad, said that she died of

overwork but that she had always been a very cheerful and happy woman.  My

grandfather, ten years her senior, lived only two years following the

death of his wife.  Neither one would experience the family's grief when

Thomas' plane was shot down over Germany in 1945.  His eight siblings' would

have 33 children.  The following two generations number well over 50.  Of the

nine children in the story, only Gerald, Paul, Catherine and Arthur are

still living.  The family gathers for a large reunion every summer.

© Kathleen M. Cryan

By the way, I have permission from my big sister to  post her work on

the webRAGC

As an example of how easy it is to lose a first cousin let me relate a

story.  Around the time of the 6'th or 7'th Cryan Cousins Convention - in the

early 80's we (grandchildren of Anna O'Reilly Cryan's) were urged to attend

in order to learn who Leonard Malherb - whom none of us had ever heard -

was.  Apparently my Grandmother had taken in her sister Catherine's two

children, a girl, Catherine, age 8 and a boy, Leonard age 13.  Leonard apparently

felt quite capable of taking care of himself and took off.  His sister found

him when they were both adults and introduced him to his Cryan Cousins.  He

showed up looking just like all the Uncles (widow's peak, white hair, -

so maybe that's more an O'Reilly look than a Cryan look) having become a

Professor at a college in California and a world traveler.

Enjoy, Rosalie Anne Gertrude Cryan

 

 

  From:        Fatarm@aol.com  | Add to Address Book | Block address   Date:        Thu, 29 Apr 1999 22:12:19 EDT Subject:        [CRYAN-L] A Crean connection on my O'Crean et al. database    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Can I share the tiniest victory yet achieved by anyone on this list?

It involves a little griping up front, and I'm not certain it's an event

worth reporting, but today is the first time I've seen my database REALLY

work.I've been working to smooth out the bumps on the database I'm

assembling, saving all the good info that comes through my phone jack, trying to

get all the info in the same format, etc.  I have no idea on earth why I'm

doing this, but I feel compelled to help establish some sense of "Family" for

we poor scattered O'Crean, MacCroghan and Creaghan descendants.  And I

tend to take a sledge hammer approach to any research ...

But today I saw true progress.   In checking an email for some complete

stranger's ancestors' godfather's name (see what I mean by "Waayyyy

back there" and tiny victory) I found him in the Mormon list!  Weeee doggie!

 It works!So now that I've shared that little bit of self-indulgent nonsense,

here are the facts:

Timothy Crean, husband of Mary Roberts and father of John (b. 1864) and

Catherine (b. 1866), of Clonmoyle District, Co. Cork was the godfather

of one of the Radley children in 1854 in the same district.

If the godchild's researcher contacts me with any more on this

Crean-Radley connection, I'll post.  Just in case one of these Creans connects into

our own Crean researchers ... Leslie

 

 

   From:        "Roger Cryan and Regina Pana-Cryan" <cryan@avana.net>  | Add to Address Book | Block

        address   Date:        Wed, 5 May 1999 22:19:38 -0400 Subject:        [CRYAN-L] What's the connection in Ballinultagh? An exercise in speculation.     To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

[I heard from a descendent of my great-grandfather's brother, who read

allabout it on this list.]

I'm trying to determine the connection of my line to a particular farm

inBallinultagh, Boyle Parish, Co. Roscommon.

The oral tradition was that our family had been on the same farm for

1200years before my great-grandfather came to America.  But the story I

heardin Ireland, from Cryans related by marriage, was that my gggrandfather

cameto Ballinultagh with the Rorkes.

Something from Kevin, I think, gave this:

        Crine Burials of Boyle, Catholic Registry:

        John Cryan, Ballinultagh, d. 1855-12-24 age 36.  (so born in 1819)

        Brigid Cryan, Ballinultagh, d. 1852-01-??, age 74.  (so born ca. 1778)

This John Cryan died only two years before the Griffith's valuation had

mygreat-great-grandfather, James Cryan (see below), renting in

Ballinultagh. Ballinultagh was a small place, so John and Brigid may have lived on

thesame farm. 

My great-great-grandparents:

James CRYAN and Honor BEIRNE married Feb. 8, 1853 in Kilfree and

Killaragt R.C. Parish  [This parish was much larger than it is now.]

children:

Michael (b.1854, Boyle >USA; d.1885-1936, Lowell, MA USA(?))

James (b.1859, Boyle; d. after 1941, pr. Boyle) m. Ann Cryan (b.Brougher,Ballinafad, Co. Sligo), no children

Hanoria c 22 Nov 1863 Boyle RC

John (b.1865, Boyle; d. after 1941, pr. Boyle), never married

Martin (b.1861 Boyle, some records say 1864 or 1867 - that is why the

life insurance didn't pay off when he d. 1936 Lowell, MA  USA) arrived in

Boston on 31 March 1881 aboard the ship "Palastine",

Brigid (or "Delia") (b.1856, Boyle; d. 1941, Lowell, MA USA) m. Kinney;

 Anne (b.1857, Boyle; d. Ulster?); m. Welsh or Walsh and moved to

Ulster.

Mary Jane (b.1869, Boyle>Lowell, MA USA>Boyle)

 

Eve found my great-great-great grandparents (probably):

 > The most probable parents for James CRYAN are

> Michael CRYAN and Bridgit FURY(various spellings)

> The names fit those of James first two children

> children

> Anne c 20 Nov 1816 Boyle RC

> Mary c 1 April 1819 Boyle RC

> Winifred c 24 Oct 1820 Boyle RC

> Bridget c 9 Oct 1822 Boyle RC

> James c 2 July 1824 Boyle RC ***** your James ????

> Margaret c 5 April 1826 Boyle RC

> John c   March 1830 (no date given)

>

Now, the question is, does anyone have a connection between James'

familyand the John and Brigid who died in Ballinultagh in the 1850's? 

Here's some pure speculation:

Brigid (1778-1852) and (John?) Cryan (1770-1818)

        (James?) and Anne Cryan (b. 1799 or so) oldest son, inherits the farm

(that is, the lease)

                John Cryan (1819-1855) only son, inherits the farm, but dies without

(male) children         Michael Cryan (b. 1800 or so) finds a lease in Sligo?,

somehow, and raises a family

                James (1824-?), oldest son, inherits his grandfather James' farm whenJohn dies

                This speculation is consistent with James (b.1824) coming from Sligo in

the 1850's.

It is consistent with the family on the farm for 1200 years.

It is consistent with Eve's naming patterns (see below).

It is consistent with traditions of inheritance, as I understand them.

(I read "The Irish Countryman" by Arenburg(?) and found that it explained

an awful lot of what seemed to be family nonsense; I'd very strongly

recommend it for those of you who've traced the line as far back as Ireland.)

Does anyone have a family that fits this speculation?  Eve, how did I do?

 

First son/daughter named after Paternal Grandfather/grandmother

Second son/daughter named after Maternal Grandfather/grandmother

Third son/daughter named after Father's Oldest Brother/Sister

Fourth son/daughter named after Father/Mother 

 

  From:         "hilnders" <hilnders@pe.net>  | Add to Address Book | Block address Subject:

        Genealogy Book site   Date:        Thu, 6 May 1999 08:03:32 -0700    To:        WALSH-L@rootsweb.com

This is a great site and if you have never checked it out, I think you

willwant to bookmark it and visit often.  This site specializes in

Genealogy andHistory books, Including out of print books.

http://www.higginsonbooks.com/

TTFN, Lynda

hilnders@pe.net

Lynda's Genealogy Homepage

http://www.pe.net/~hilnders

 

  From:        Fatarm@aol.com  | Add to Address Book | Block address   Date:        Fri, 7 May 1999 10:19:12 EDT

 Subject:        [CRYAN-L] Re: Mormon list of names    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Responding to Dottie's  question re: access to the LDS' list:

Actually, I transcribed a list of Crean/Crains, etc. and posted it

through the list some time ago.  I have it in a spreadsheet ... want me to look

something up?  I know not everything is there -- both because of date

limitations, limited locations, etc.  So don't get too hopeful ... but

I'd happily look something up for you (or anyone).  (If you haven't posted

your research through the mailing list yet, do it that way, just in case one

of your as-yet-unknown cousins is subscribed and recognizes a name) ....

Leslie

 

From:        Fatarm@aol.com  | Add to Address Book | Block address   Date:        Fri, 7 May 1999 17:46:04 EDT

 Subject:        [CRYAN-L] Fwd from GenIre: Re: Naturalization    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

I thought this an interesting bit of trivia for those in the US -- I

doubt Canadians would have had to go through this bit???

I'm always interested in this naturalization bit because my Ggrandmom

Agnes Cryan Smyth never naturalized in the US, although she owned property,

lived here a total of 50+ years, and her husband naturalized ... she

maintained her British citizenship (she left - the first time - mid-teens this

century).

Does anyone have anything to add about naturalizations?  It's an

interesting insight into personality, in my case, but might be just as interesting

as a history lesson ... Leslie

 

Johnathan,

You raised a good point that probably is confusing to many who are not

familiar with Irish history.  Ireland even though a separate country

geographically,   was not independent of England, it was part of the

BritishEmpire and thus the people of Ireland were British citizens (the great

majority- unwilling) even though they were Irish. That is why the

naturalization papers state:

"I do absolutely and entirely renounce and abjure all allegiance

>and fidelity to any foreigh Prince, Potentate, State or Sovereignty

>whattever; and particularly to the Queen of the United Kingdom of

Great>Britian and Ireland of whom I was before a subject".

My Grandfather's naturalization papers in 1898 also had"  Victoria

Queen ofGreat Britain, Ireland and Empress of India".

I have a georgraphy book that belonged to one of my Irish grandmothers.

 Shelived in County Down and the book was printed in 1893.

Ireland was  listed as part of the British Islands - "The United

Kingdom ofGreat Britain and Ireland consists of a large group of islands,

situated inthe North Atlantic Ocean, near the estern coast of Central Europe.

The area is 121,607 square miles; the population in 1891 was

37,740,283.

Relgions - There are in the British Islands about 32 millions of

Protestantsof various denominations, and 5 1/2 millions of Roman Catholics"

(mostly theIrish).

It goes onto refer to the Dominion of Canada as British America.  It is

fascinating reading.  It even has the population of many Irish cities

in1891. Part of your question is answered in the statement in the book

thatsays:

"The British Empire is the largest and except China, the most populous

inthe world.  It has been truly said that "the sun never sets on the

Queen'sdominions," for we have possessions in Europe, Asia, Africa, America

andAustralia.  The area of the British Empire is more than 11 millions of

square miles, almost one fifth of all the land on the surface of the

earth.The population exceeds 366 millions more than one fourth of the

estimatedinhabitants of the earth"

So, since your relative left Ireland before Home Rule and Independence,

hewas a British subject thus the formal renouncing of the foreign ruler

ofGreat Britain.Siochain (peace)Margaret (Miaread)

 

>Barney Tyrwhitt Drake wrote:

>>Barney, nice sketch of what was going on in labor migrations trends

at the>time. Thanks for such an informative piece.

>>The paragraph above which you wrote caught my eye, particularly the

>line..."many more people today who think of themselves as English or

Scots>have more than a little Irish ancestry".

>>On my grandfathers US naturalization certificate of 1875, the King´s

county>of the State of New York confers US citizenship on my grandfather with

the>final wording...

>>QUOTE : "I do absolutely and entirely renounce and abjure all

allegiance>and fidelity to any foreigh Prince, Potentate, State or Sovereignty

>whattever; and particularly to the Queen of the United Kingdom of

Great>Britian and Ireland of whom I was before a subject". ENDQUOTE

>>My grandfather  SAID on his marriage certificate he was from England

(not>that he was English...that he was FROM ENGLAND). This is different

from all>the family saying he and his ancesters were Irish (he was John James

>Molloy, born of John Molloy and Katherine Harnet...seems that the

Irish was>certainly in the names, to be sure!).

>>Why does a document such as a US naturalization document lump the

Queen of>the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland all together? (this is

my>ignorance of history asking you). If one was of Irish blood and

ancestry>and coming from a geographic area considered as Ireland, speaking in

the>stricter geographic terms you have more or less discussed in your

>explanations, was one considered still and all to be a British

(English)>subject as though to say one possessed or had the right ot possess an

>English passport?

>What was the likelihood of an Irish person, who may have migrated

first to>England before moving on to North America, to have been documented

>(passport or other personal but legal document of the times when the

Irish>migrated) as an Irish "citizen" or as a British "citizen"...I´ll not

use>the word subject here, although it may have a bearing, I do not know?

>>Perhaps this is all a bit hypothetical. Well, it certainly is in my

case>for the moment, since I have not been able to trace my grandfather

back to>times earlier that this 1875 naturalization document.  I am convinced

I>will eventually find he was born of Irish blood and geographical

origins,>so I wanted to get a feel for the times: "all the same but separate

and>unequal" or "all the same and all equal" aspects, for example, either

>legally or however.>Hope I have not been too confusing? I´m somewhat confused myself, so

excuse>me if my questions are not the right ones to ask.

>>Thanks for trying to shed some light for me.. Regards. Jonathan Smith

>>SENDER´S NAME: Jonathan E. Smith

>Email: jonathansmith@infosel.net.mx

From:        JudyBruce@aol.com  | Add to Address Book | Block address   Date:        Fri, 7 May 1999 22:49:35 EDT Subject:        [CRYAN-L] (no subject)    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Hi Cryan listers..my name is Judy and I too like that rest of you are

looking for info on the surname Cryan... I have been in contact via private

email with Roger Cryan from this list and it looks like his Martin Cryan is a

brother to my Michael John Cryan who in the late 1800's came from

Ireland to Lowell, MA.  I have not had the time to read all the back archives from

this list. As I do and if I make connections anywhere or can help others

make connections from what info I have on hand I will let you know.  Here is

a start to my search.... looking for ancestors or descendants either one.

James Cryan and Hanoria Bierne married in Ireland and had: (Now know

there were other children)

 Michael John Cryan born 1855 died 20 Aug 1929 in Columbus, Franklin

Co, OH. He married  16 Sept 1883 in Lowell, MA to Ellen Margaret Meehan a girl

from Sligo Co, Ire. In Lowell. .He left Lowell at some point came to

Woonsocket, RI where he stayed a few years and then went on to Ohio at the urging

of one of his children most likely James. (I hear an electrician by

trade….maybe learned from his Uncle James the electrician?)  On those papers it

stated Michael Cryan was a grocer and on  Michael Reilly's  was a butcher I

guess the store on Market St was somewhat of a joint venture. Michael Reilly

was John F. Reilly's father (below) he was a witness on Michael Cryan's

naturalization papers.

Mary Honara Cryan born 6 Dec 1884 married John F. Reilly and had 5

children. (These are my grandparents) There children were Paul 1915,  Mary J.

1916, 

John F. 1918,  Leonard B. (my dad) 1922 and Helen M. 1927 (only Helen

survives at this time.)

Anne T. Cryan Sep 1886 never married

James   May 1888 married but a lost twig….. family history says he was

an electrician and moved to near Toledo, OH. Have never really looked in

earnest for him although there are Cryans in that area. This is the son that

urged to family to leave Woonsocket, RI and join him in the Midwest. All of them

went there with the exception of my grandmother who stayed in Woonsocket

with her husband John Reilly. (Would love to find this branch!)

Ella M. 28 Dec 1889/93 never married

Frances L. 5 Aug 1894 married a Leo Peter Duplisses but was struck with

crippling arthritis and spent most of her life in a nursing home.

William H. 15 Nov 1895 was told he never married but found a newspaper

article that said he was.

Hope we can help each other out... thanks.

 

Reply-to:             "Family History" < >       From:             "Family History" < >  | Add to Address Book | Block address       Date:             Sat, 8 May 1999 09:49:08 +0100 Organization:             Family Spackman     Subject:             [CRYAN-L] Naturalisation and Origins         To:             CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Just a word concerning nationality in Ireland.

Just like USA people in Ireland are from a great mixture of origins.

Therehas been constant toing and froing from England ,Wales, Scotland ,

Scandinavia, France ,Germany ,Spain and Portugal since very early times

because of the proximity. St Patrick abt 390 - 461 AD was

Romano-British andtaken captive to Ireland c 405 AD. He then escaped and went to France

andreturned to Ireland as a missionary about 432 AD after being ordained a

priest. There were settlement movements from England in the 1300s

particularly to the Cork area and to the Dublin area . Recently found

outside Dublin and being excavated is a Roman Settlement/port ( c 100 -

200AD) linked with Holyhead in Wales (now a ferry port). The Costello clan

aresupposed to have originated in Spain having come about the time of the

Spanish Armada about 1630 or so.

It was after the harsh anti Catholic laws of Cromwell's time and

particularly after the Battle of the Boyne in William of Orange.s reign

(1690) when Catholic land was confiscated and many were forced to the

westthat a feeling of outrage developed a feeling of nationhood.

It then poses the question "What does it mean to have Irish roots ?"

Perhaps there are deeper layers to the rooting system.

Eve

 

 

Date:        Mon, 10 May 1999 23:37:40 -0400

  From:        "Matthew J. Weismantel" <weismant@rci.rutgers.edu>  | Add to Address Book | Block address

 Subject:        [CRYAN-L] John CRYAN and wife Mary FARRELL    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Hello everyone,

I am new to the list, but I am looking for information about John CRYAN

andhis wife Mary F. FARRELL who died in NYC 20 Oct 1938.  Below is

informationI have on his family through 3 generations.  Does this match and other

researchers information.  I would look forward to any feedback or

information.Matt Weismantel

First Generation

1. John CRYAN.

John married Mary F. FARRELL. Mary F. died on 20 Oct 1938 in New YorkCity.

They had the following children:

 2 i. Mary Teresa (1882-1941)

 3 ii. Belle

 4 iii. John

 5 iv. Agnes

 6 v. William

 7 vi. Thomas

 

Second Generation

2. Mary Teresa CRYAN. Born on 16 Dec 1882 in Bronx, New York. Mary

Teresadied in Queens, New York on 18 Oct 1941; she was 58. Buried in St.

JohnsCemetery, Queens Borough, New York. Occupation: Homemaker.

On 25 Nov 1903 when Mary Teresa was 20, she married Patrick BURKE, son

ofJohn BURKE & Esther BENNET, in St. Jeromes Church, New York, New York.

Bornon 2 Mar 1872 in Birr, County Offaly, Diocese Kellaloe, Ireland.

Patrickdied in 115-80 219th Street, Cambria Heights, Queens, New York on 30

Nov1945; he was 73.

They had the following children:

 8 i. William Jerome (1910-1966)

 9 ii. Thomas Ignatius (1907-1973)

 10 iii. John Joseph (1908-1976)

 11 iv. Patrick R. (1905-1905)

3. Belle CRYAN. Occupation: School Principle in Brooklyn, NY (around

St.George Hotel).

4. John CRYAN.

5. Agnes CRYAN. Occupation: Nun.

6. William CRYAN.

William married ?.

They had one child:

 12 i. William

7. Thomas CRYAN.

Thomas married ?.

They had one child:

 13 i. Patricia

 

Third Generation

8. William Jerome BURKE. Born on 30 Apr 1910 in Brooklyn, New York.

WilliamJerome died in Winfield Park, New Jersey on 24 Mar 1966; he was 55.

Buriedin St. Gertrudes Cemetary, Colonia, NJ. Occupation: Kearny Ship Yards/

NJDepartment of Transportation. Education: 8th Grade.

On 18 Jun 1936 when William Jerome was 26, he married Leona Harriot

MORRIS,daughter of Harry Norton MORRIS & Mae Louise CARR, in St. Sylvester

Church,Brooklyn, New York. Born on 15 May 1917 in Brooklyn, New York.

They had one child:

  i. Mary Louise (1938-)

9. Thomas Ignatius BURKE. Born on 26 Oct 1907 in Bronx, New York.

ThomasIgnatius died in 2463 Gulf to Bay Blvd., Clearwater, Florida on 2 Oct

1973;he was 65.

On 16 Jul 1932 when Thomas Ignatius was 24, he married Mildred

CatherineROBINSON, daughter of William Alfred ROBINSON III & Catherine SAUTTER,

inOffice of the City Clerk, Queens, New York. Born in 1911. Mildred

Catherinedied in Clearwater, Florida on 2 Jul 1982; she was 71.

They had one child:

  i. Audrey Jacqueline (1935-)

10. John Joseph BURKE. Born on 15 Sep 1908. John Joseph died on 5 Nov

1976;he was 68.

On 22 Aug 1936 when John Joseph was 27, he married Margaret DARIUS.

Theywere divorced.

11. Patrick R. BURKE. Born on 3 Oct 1905. Patrick R. died on 10 Oct

1905.

12. William CRYAN.

13. Patricia CRYAN.

 

Date:        Tue, 11 May 1999 18:21:06 +1000  From:        lsimpson@effect.net.au (George Simpson)  | Add to Address Book | Block address Subject:        [CRYAN-L] John Creegan (b. abt. 1830, Co. Louth)

    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Dear Cryan Listers

I am trying from Australia (not very successfully) to research

the forebears of my husband's American family.

I am looking for a family of Creegans possibly from Drogheda,

County Louth. There were several brothers and possibly a set of

twins. At least three of these brothers left Ireland for far-

flung places, with one travelling to Australia (and was never

heard from again!)

John bought half of a joint ticket on board the Annapolis and

arrived in Baltimore in 1854. The ticket was owned by Catherine

and Hugh McCann (brother and sister from Co. Armagh). John is

listed on the NARA Passenger List as Hugh McCann, but at the

last minute Hugh could not travel and so his ticket was sold

to John. It is thought that John's parents were dead by the time

he left Ireland.

If I follow the Irish naming conventions, then I may be looking for

a Michael and Catherine Creegan with (at least) sons John and William.

Any help you can give me would be great, including assistance on

how to track these people down from Australia!

ThanksLynne SimpsonCanberra Australia

 

    Reply-to:             "Family History" < >       From:             "Family History" < >  | Add to Address Book | Block address       Date:             Tue, 11 May 1999 09:26:45 +0100 Organization:             Family Spackman     Subject:             [CRYAN-L] Re John CRYAN and Mary FARRELL         To:             CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Hi Mathew,

Welcome, I am glad that you have posted your family of CRYANs.

As one of the CRYANs from England, we find that we come together in our

Irish roots.John CRYAN and Mary FARRELL are both common names so we need a few more

clues in order to go any further back.

Their first child was born in 1882 so that it is most probable that

theywere aged 18 or over. That gives the fact that they were born before

1864.Mary died in 1938 but no age given so if she were in her 80s she would

havebeen born 1848-58 or in her 70s 1858-68 thus can not be younger than

74.She could not have been older than about 45 when she had her youngest

childfor which there are no dates given but at a guess would be about 10

yearsafter the first. She then could not have been older than 35 in 1882 so

couldnot have been born before 1847.Thus Mary FARRELL was born between 1847 and 1864

Although the man has a much wider range of age possibilities ,it is

likelythat John was born during this period also.

 

>From the usual Irish naming patterns it is possible that John's

parents werecalled  John and Mary (first son and daughter's names.) and that Mary's

parents were Teresa or Belle and William.Do note that this is only a possibility, no more. Naming patterns werestrong in Ireland but often lost in a new country and towards 1900.

(Johnis a common CRYAN name but William is not)

The best place for more information at this stage would be the 1890/1

USAcensus which should give the children to that date and their ages, the

parents' ages ,where they were living, and possibly where they were

born(mine in the British 1881 census just give Ireland) but it may give the

county in Ireland.I think that you can also view the 1901 census in the USA which will

givefurther information.

The USA members of the group will explain where to view the censuses.

Good luck and happy hunting..............  perhaps you will find deeper

roots........... between us we have quite a lot of Irish records so

couldhelp further with a little more detail.Nearly all CRYANs come from the districts around the borders of thecountiesRoscommon, Sligo and Mayo in Ireland. Other name variations are found

elsewhere.Eve

 

 

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From:          Fatarm@aol.com  | Add to Address Book | Block address    Date:          Tue, 20 Apr 1999 11:19:45 EDT Reply-To:          Fatarm@aol.com  Subject:          [CRYAN-L] Dublin Directory, 1850

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Again, from Gen-Ire (Sunday) -- I ought to start doing some original

research!  But GenIre mail is a good read, and full of gems like this

one.  A woman named Trish posted that she has been transcribing the Dublin City

Directory, and the below pages are her efforts (not quite finished, butnearly there, I believe).  -Leslie

http://homepage.tinet.ie/~plough/dubdir.html

Dublin City Directory of 1850

http://homepage.tinet.ie/~plough/lordmayor.html

Lord Mayors of Dublin (1726-1924)

http://homepage.tinet.ie/~plough/placenames.html

Meanings of Irish place names

 Reply-to: "Family History" < > From: "Family History" < > | Block address Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 10:00:49 +0100

 Organisation: Family Spackman Subject: [CRYAN-L] Re Problems To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.comThank you to all those who wrote offering advice about lightening

affectingone's computor. Normally weather of any extreme form is not a problem

herein England.There is an old adage that "lightening does not strike twice

inthe same place" which is particularly applicable to this country. I

havenever seen anything so terrible as that recent tornado in Oklahoma.

At the moment we are sending and receiving emails and accessing the

internetvia the mouse port as it seems to be the modem port which is affected,

fortunately not the modem. We shall also eventually get an internal

modem sothat the port is not used.

However do not stop the emails coming - the turn round will just be a

littleslower.What has happened to the CRYAN list? There seem to be no

conversations.There are also several people who were sending for birth certificates

etcfollowing some information that I was able to give..........I would

love toknow what happened and whether they were the correct family members.

I now have a very large data base which I am gradually adding to, as I

search the parish records.I also have it on card indexes filed by

father'sname and by mother's name. Computor buffs will say ugh! but

ithas a great many advantages. Each card has a set of parents and their

children and of course all the relevant dates and most of the sources .

 Soit takes quite a time to match up generations. The beauty of this

system isthat one does not have to sit at a computor !!!!!!

The results of deliberations can then be put into my several computor

datasets - I have one for experimental links in addition to my main family

trees.Familytreemaker I find Ok but not nearly as flexible as a very simple ,

verycrude program that I bought in a supermaket years ago for £9.99 or

about $20called "Family Tree". It gives an adequate printed tree but not nearly

as"beautiful" as FTM. We have had considerable problems with FTMs

facility for"unmerging" which seems to damage the file and render it unusable for

anyother programs. This has been difficult as my husband has written a

veryuseful program to identify entries with similarities eg children with

thesame parents, people with the same date of birth or marriage date etc.

Thisis very useful when one transfers large amounts of data about or enters

stuff from a variety of sources.I know that there are lots of similar programs . I believe Brothers

Keeperis another popular genealogy set up.What do you all use to organise your data and what do you think of thatparticular set of programs ? What are their strong points and their

weeknesses?I look forward to your contributions. Eve

 

 Reply-to: "Family History" < > From: "Family History" < > | Block address Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 13:26:14 +0100

 Organisation: Family Spackman Subject: [CRYAN-L] Re a Michael and Mary CRYAN To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

If anyone has an interest in a Michael CRYAN who married Mary DURR, I

mayhave found them in another country in the late 1800s, so please mail

me, tolet me know whether you know of their later life. I have found a

Michael andMary CRYAN which seem to fit but it may just be a coincidence. Eve

 

Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 14:19:05 -0500 From: Jill DeVito <jill.devito@angelo.edu> | Block address Subject: [CRYAN-L] progress To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Dear Cryan Listers,I have made some progress in tracing my Lowell Cryan line.

I had one afternoon to spend in the Lowell library and archives during

myrecent trip to the Northeast from Texas.

With Joan Ogg's help, I was able to quickly locate the death

certificatefor my g-g grandfather James Cryan (b. Roscommon) who came to Lowell in

theearly 1870's. His parents were James and Mary, who were born in

Irelandand England according to the death certificate. (Now I must figure out

which James and Mary they are!)Obituaries e-mailed to me by Karen Murphy have shown that a James andMaryof Ireland were parents to a family of Lowell Cryans including: Mary

CryanO'Flahavan, Thomas Cryan, Timothy Cryan, and John Cryan (who remained

inIreland). Unfortunately I do not have the obits handy right now, but

theybelonged to Mary and Thomas who were born in the 1840's and died by the

1920's. I believe my James may have been their brother, since his

parentsare also James and Mary, and he is listed at the same residence as

Timothyin the 1874 Lowell Directory. In addition, most of Mary Cryan

O'Flahavan'spallbearers were descendants of my James.

James was born abt. Dec 1, 1835 in Ballagherdereen, Roscommon, Ireland,

anddied July 17, 1889 in Lowell MA. (His wife was Sarah McMahon). He

wouldnot have been listed among surviving family members in the obituaries

ofMary, Thomas or Timothy because they died after he did.

Unfortunately, I was unable to find a complete obituary (listing

survivors)for James in the Lowell papers. The appropriate weeks in July 1889

weremissing from the microfilm for the Lowell Sun, and other papers only

briefly mentioned his death.So I am still seeking evidence of a direct connection between James and

theothers.I have photocopied the Cryan pages of at least 12 years worth of LowellDirectories, and will post that information as soon as I finishtranscribing it.Jill

Angelo State University

Biology Department San Angelo, TX 76909 (915) 942-2189 ext.238 (915) 942-2184 fax

 

 Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 08:20:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Caoimhghin O Croidheain <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> | Block address Subject: [CRYAN-L] obits To:

 CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

hi saw this site in rootsweb and got following results:

The OBITUARY DAILY TIMES <http://www.rootsweb.com/~obituary/>

topped the three million obituaries mark in early May 1999.

Congratulations to the project's founder, Denis SAVARD, to its

brains and brawn today, Walter STYLES, and to the thousands of

volunteers whose efforts have made and continue to make it grow.

Obituary Daily Times

Entries matching "cryan"

If no names are listed below here, then none were found.

Type: Keyword Matches: 1-14 of 14 Breakdown: cryan[14]

BAILEY, Bernice E "Bunny" (CRYAN); 82; Lebanon NH; Concord M;

1998-1-16; cgdbout

BAILEY, Bernice E "Bunny" (CRYAN); 82; Lebanon NH; Manchester U-L;

1998-1-16; cgdbout

CRYAN, Alberg C G; ; ; Newsday (NY); 1998-6-10; rpng

CRYAN, Gladys (HOUSE); 81; Lakeland FL; Ledger; 1997-12-13; clbates

CRYAN, Jessie May; 88; ; San Jose M-N (CA); 1999-4-29; bjw

CRYAN, John J; ; Haverhill MA; Boston Globe; 1999-2-16; cgdbout

CRYAN, John J; ; Haverhill MA; Boston Globe; 1999-2-17; cgdbout

CRYAN, M Kathleen "Kay" (MURPHY); 76; St Thomas ON; St Thomas T-J;

1999-5-18; kbutler

CRYAN, M Kathleen "Kay" (MURPHY); 76; St Thomas ON; St Thomas T-J;

1999-5-19; kbutler

KELLY-CRYAN, Joan Frances; ; metro Chicago IL; Chicago Tribune;

1996-3-17; trumbullc

PATTERSON, Harriet C (CRYAN); 69; Whitefield NH>Lower Allen Township

PA; Sentinel; 1999-3-4; wwwalton

PATTERSON, Harriet (CRYAN); 69; Harrisburg PA; Harrisburg P-N;

1999-3-4; mam

ROONEY, Regina "Jean" (CRYAN); 86; Brooklyn NY; Ridgefield P (CT);

1998-2-5; bjw

STADVEC

 

 Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 00:35:42 -0400 From: Maureen McCourt Nantista <mornan@nais.com> | Block address Subject: [CRYAN-L] Re a Michael and Mary CRYAN

 To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Hi Eve,YES!!! I am interested in Michael and Mary (Durr) Cryan!!

They are my gg-grandparents through their son Michael (1855-1933). I've

found their marriage record of 26 July 1853 in the Boyle RC registers

andalso a possible christening for Michael in 1826 in the same registers.

The most recent records I have for them is the birth and christening of

their last (known) child, John, in 1865, again Boyle. I've been

sytematically sending for photcopies (can get costly) of all the

possibledeaths of Michaels and Marys in Ireland (thanks to Kevin Cryan's index

list) but none so far seem likely. So there is a very strongpossibilitythat they died elsewhere.Would be MOST grateful for whatever information you have.Thanks and much success with your own search.

Maureen McCourt NantistaHuntington, NY

 

From: "Kevin J. Crean" <Kevin_J._Crean@hud.gov> | Block address Date:

 Tue, 1 Jun 1999 13:46:15 -0400 Subject: [CRYAN-L] Census Records

 To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

While I have been reading the many e:mails that passed my way in recent

months this is my first message to the mailing list. I am fairly new

tothis so please bear with me. I fear my questions may be extremely

basic.Most of the information I have on my father's family comes from a

recentlydeceased first cousin of his. Due to my own efforts at contacting

secondcousins and other relations, both for the purpose of conducting

genealogical research and to expand the mailing list for my just

createdfamily newsletter and bi-annual reunion, I received a letter from a

secondcousin that contradicted some basic information -- the names of my

g-grandparents' nine children. This cousin, whose family remained in

Ireland, didn't directly refute the information I have been relying on,

shemerely wrote me a letter and included some information she knew, from

memory, with the result being that I must now do something I should

havedone at the very beginning. I need to verify the names of my

grandfather'seight siblings. I have his birth and baptismal certificates and

althoughhe was the youngest child in his family I am fairly certain that all of

hissiblings were born in the same parish as he. My question to the group

is:How can I best obtain the verification I seek? I am assuming that I

shouldlook for the Census records. My grandfather was born in County Sligo,

Ireland in the parish of Kilglass in 1896. So I am assuming I need to

start with the 1880 and 1890 census records. Would my local (New York

City) LDS Center have these on hand or would the micro-film rolls need

tobe ordered? Is knowing the parish and townland sufficient to find the

information in a first visit? I know my g-g parents' names and most of

their children's names are not in dispute so I should be able to

recognizethe family if I see them. I guess what I am asking is: How long

shouldthis process take? I am not looking for a quick fix, I just want to be

able to plan my trip to the LDS Center to make the best use of my

limitedtime.Thank you in advance to anyone who can assist me.

One more question: Is anyone researching the Crean line from Sligo? I

soseldom see the name even come up in e:mails that I wonder if the group

ismade up entirely of Cryans. Thanks again.

 

 Reply-to: "Family History" < > From: "Family History" < > | Block address Subject: Fw: [CRYAN-L] Census Records

 Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 13:43:25 +0100 Organisation: Family Spackman

 To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

----- Original Message -----

From: Family History < >

To: Kevin J. Crean <Kevin_J._Crean@hud.gov>

Sent: 02 June 1999 11:46

Subject: Re: [CRYAN-L] Census Records

Hi Kevin ,Sadly there are very few census records in Ireland to help you.The 1901

isthe most complete but much of the rest was destroyed in the fires of

1916.There are however other ways of getting to the information that you

wouldlike.I can not lay my hand on my book that lists all the Irish resources, at

thepresent time. I will let you know when I find it and send you anything

relevant. However, at the LDS there is a very comprehensive catalogue

ontheir computer. (you may have to book to use it).

HOWEVER on the internet you can enter the LDS Family Search site and

look attheir catalogue and it gives the film numbers for Kilglass Co Sligo

1901census and for the parish records.There are two ways of getting there

http://www.familysearch.org/search from where you can access other

types of

searches as weel clicking on "Custom Search" through which you get a

listand then you click on to the catalogue title.

OR directly so you can not be side tracked

http://wwwfamilysearch.org/search/searchcatalog.asp

CREAN/CRYAN and all the other variants can be interchangeable the

furtherback one goes. No spelling is fixed. Looking through parish records one

finds what is obviously the same family with a different surname

spellingfor each of their children. WHY? well one explanation is that Irish

accentsvary as much as the people but the name written down depended on the

personwho heard it to write it down. This was usually the priest and after

1864the registrar (NB not all people were registered for whatever reason).

Saythe names in different accents and you will come up with a huge variety

ofspellings. Here are just a few that I have come across in the parish

registers Crane, Crion, Creyon, Krine, Crine, Cryne, Croghan, Crehen

Craheenetc.Good luck with your search Eve

 

Reply-to: "Family History" < > From: "Family History" < > | Block address Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 09:45:28 +0100

 Organisation: Family Spackman Subject: [CRYAN-L] URLs and Question

 To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Hi all,I case there are those people who have not used the new LDS Family

Searchsite which gives access to their IGI,Ancestral File AND the LIbrary

Catalogue (so that you can look up film numbers before you visit), here

isthe URL http://www.familysearch.org

You may also be interested in this list of VERY kind souls who will do

look-upshttp://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Plains/8555/lookup.html

Question : Having found the birth/christening of an ancestor, this then

gives the parents and if one is lucky, one may get the townland on

whichthey were living at the time, one may also get the witnesses who could

wellbe relatives; where does one go from there knowing that they have not

appeared earlier in that parish register?

I have tried different lines of investigation,so far unsuccessfully -

HASANYONE GOT ANY SUGGESTIONS ?

Please reply to the list because your suggestion my just be

appropriate tosomeone other than me, as well as me.

Thanks Eve

 

Reply-to: "Family History" < > From: "Family History" < > | Block address Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 18:04:30 +0100 Organisation: Family Spackman Subject: [CRYAN-L] CREAN

 To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Did Kevin J Crean have any luck at the LDS. Rereading your email I do

hopethat you followed up looking at the LDS catalogue before you visited

,inorder to collect any film numbers.I do not know how much New York FHC

has onpermanent loan but there is still much to look at even if you have to

waitfor the film of the parish records.

To all our readers ... do let us know how you are getting on....and

whatdifficulties you find.I am not making progress but am concentrating on transcribing the 1901

census for the Boyle region. it is fascinating to see how few Cryans

are inthe parishes that I have done so far, on the southern fringes of the

Cryanheartland. Hopefullt there will be more as I progress.

 Interestingly one of the enumerators was J Cryan and I can hazard a

guessas to who he is !!!!! Currently I am working on Killukin, in

particularCroghan town, it should have been put up in a few weeks time so do

visit thesearchable database of the 1901 census on the Leitrim and Roscommon

website.I am sure you can find it for we have given the URL countless times.Eve

 

Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 13:05:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Caoimhghin O Croidheain <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> | Block address Subject: Re: [CRYAN-L] CREAN

 To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

hi EveDo you have the url for the 1901 I am interested as my gggrandfather

(John Cryan) was the national teacher at Croghan - who do you think was

the enumerator??caoimhghin

 

 Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 02:53:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Caoimhghin O Croidheain <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> | Block address Subject: [CRYAN-L] partial 1901 census for cryan

 To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

hi smae again here for layout follow the categories as they are

listed in first part - this is to show what may be found - that is why

I havent done cryan surname variations....

caoimhghin

 The Leitrim-Roscommon

 1901 Census Search

 Output

 

 TownlandParishBaronyCountyDescription Head of household Surname

Head ofhouseholdGivenHead ofhouseholdOccupationOther occupants

 

 Ardmoyle Kilnamanagh Frenchpark Roscommon Household Cryan

 John(34) farmer/married Bridget(31) wife-Kate(5mo.)

 

Kingsland Kilnamanagh Frenchpark Roscommon Household Cryan

Bernard(50)  Farmer/unmarried

 

 Ballinvoher Kilnamanagh Frenchpark Roscommon Household Cryan

Pat(57)  Farmer/married Eliza(43) wife-Michael(20)-Bernard(19)-William(17)-Patrick(14)

  scholar-John(11 )scholar-Edward(6)scholar-Thomas(1)-Hanoria(16)

  scholar-Maggie(10) scholar-Sarah(7)scholar-Molly(5) scholar

 

Lisduff Tisrara Athlone Roscommon Household Cryan

Patrick(41)  farmerMaggie(37)-Kate(15)-Thomas(13)-Bridget(11)-Jane(9)-Mary

  Ann(8)-Eleria(4)-Jane(83) mother

 

Ballyfinegan Ballintober Castlerea Roscommon Household Cryan

 Mary(62)  farmer Elizabeth(28)

 

Ballyfinegan Ballintober Castlerea Roscommon Household Cryan

James(33)  farmer

 Catherine(38)-Michael(13)-Patrick(12)-Delia(11)-Annie(5)-Daniel(2)

 

Knockalaghta/Sandford Ballintober Castlerea Roscommon Household

 Cryan John(60)  shepherd

Katie(56)-Patrick(21)-Bridget(15)-Annie(14)-John(12)

 

 Lissalway Baslick Castlerea Roscommon Household

 Cryan James(72)  farmer

 Mary(43) wife-Maria(17)-James(14)-Michael(12)-Ellen(9)-Thomas(6)-Martin(4)

 

 Knockalegan West Baslick Castlerea Roscommon Household

 Cryan Thomas(60)  labourer

 

 Carnakit Baslick Castlerea Roscommon Household

 Cryan Mary(75)  Anne(40)-Owen(38)

shepherd-Jane(34)-Patrick(32)-Mary Kate(16) gd-Annie(8) gd-Sarah(4) gd

 

Ballaghaderreen T. Kilcolman Costello Roscommon Other

 CryanMartin(18)  apprentice

 

 Creggane Kilcolman Costello Roscommon Household

 CryanMartin(58) farmer Catherine(56)-Peter(13)-Thomas(11)-Patrick

  McGarry(80)visitor-Michael Cregg(55)serv.

 

 Lung Castlemore Costello Roscommon Household

 Cryan Dominick(75)  shepherd  Mary(60)-Catherine(35)teacher-Lizzie(19)-James

  Broderick(28)boarder-John Machaffrey(20)boarder

 

 Cloonbard Baslick Castlerea Roscommon Household Cryanes

 Ellen(41)  farmer  John(17)-Michael(15)

 

 14 Total Matches

 Please forward any questions or comments regarding the census data to

Roger McDonnell at rmcdonn@erols.com

 

 Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 09:52:27 -0500 From: Jill DeVito <jill.devito@angelo.edu> | Block address Subject: [CRYAN-L] St. Patrick's Cemetery (Lowell) burial records

 To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

St. Patrick's Cemetery Burial Records thru 1998;

I have re-arranged the alphabetical list by Yard and Lot:

Location age burial appx birth my notes

Yard 3, Lot 21

Sarah A 29 1/17/09 b abt 1880

John J 0 2/14/01

Margaret 0 11/25/04

 

Yard 4, Lot 23

James 56 12/18/20b abt 1864 son of James Cryan 1835-1889

Bridget 80 1/7/49 b abt 1869 daughter of James

Katherine F 84 2/11/57 b abt 1873 daughter of James

John P 65 1/26/40 b abt 1875 is this "nephew John" ofcensus?

Sarah B 71 7/14/11 b abt 1840 S. McMahon, wife of James Cryan

Elizabeth 6 11/11/11b abt 1905 whose daughter is Elizabeth?

Robert W 29 6/26/56 b abt 1927 (Korean War?) who is Robert?

 

Yard 4, Lot 26

Harriet V 79 4/30/54 b abt 1875

Vincent 0 4/24/23 b 1923

 

Yard 5B, Lot 2

Thomas 74 3/28/37 b abt 1863

Julia M 60 6/5/25 b abt 1865

 

Yard 5B, Lot 14

John 64 2/5/39 b 1874 son of James Cryan 1835-1889

Anna G 50 4/6/36 b 1884 wife of John

James Y 81 2/2/90 b 1908 James U., son of John & Anna

Mary K 86 1/8/96 b 1909 Mary K. Cassidy, wife of James

Thomas 23 6/18/49 b 1920 son of John & Anna, KIA WWII

 

Yard 5B, Lot 31

Thomas E 62 9/16/34 b abt 1872

Delia 79 6/25/54 b abt 1875

Bridget 0 11/11/94b 1894 (?)

Gertrude 3 10/28/99b abt 1896

Madeline 84 12/22/92b abt 1908

 

Yard 5B, Lot 33

James J 35 10/22/09b abt 1874

Mary A 49 9/14/24 b abt 1875

 

Yard 5B, Lot 31

Nellie 2 8/24/07 b abt 1905

Rosemary A 85 12/22/79b abt 1894

Mary E 0 2/26/94

 

Yard 5C, Lot 8

Annie M 62 6/30/16 b abt 1854 wife of Thomas (?)

Thomas 65 4/15/10 b abt 1855 brother of James Cryan

1835-1889

Annie G 92 11/22/72b abt 1880 Annie J. McGuane; wife of Alec

James J 27 11/18/08b abt 1881 son of Thomas & Annie (?)

Alexander T 75 3/27/56 b abt 1881 son of James Cryan 1835-1889

 

Yard 5D, Lot 3

Michael 50 6/9/99 b abt 1849 possibly brother to James Cryan

Bridget 73 12/20/21b abt 1858 wife of Michael

Bridget 75 1/16/48 b abt 1873 daughter of Michael

Annie 47 11/13/22b abt 1875 daughter of Michael

Margaret 82 9/15/59 b abt 1877 daughter of Michael

Nellie 58 9/27/39 b abt 1881 daughter of Michael

Michael 28 5/8/11 b abt 1883 son of Michael

James 55 1/27/39 b abt 1884 son of Michael

Nora E 52 9/3/38 b abt 1886 daughter of Michael

 

Yard 5D, Lot 17

Margaret A 68 2/13/34 b abt 1866

 

Yard 5E, Yard 40

Mary 73 8/1/02 b abt 1829 wife of Michael Cryan

Edward J 83 5/22/45 b abt 1862 son of Mary

Annie 75 8/14/43 b abt 1868 daughter of Mary

Mary 95 9/22/83 b abt 1888 daughter of Mary

 

Yard 6, Lot 6

Margaret M 82 4/28/47 b abt 1865

Martin 61 3/31/36 b abt 1875

Mary E 25 2/4/20 b abt 1895

John 59 11/18/54b abt 1895

James 65 6/28/66 b abt 1901

Katherine 12 3/29/28 b abt 1916

 

Yard 6, Lot 25

Bridget 70 11/20/12b abt 1842

Hannah 56 8/17/20 b abt 1864

Annie 88 11/21/62b abt 1874

 

Yard 6, Lot 64

Mary 56 2/20/25 b abt 1869

 

Yard --, Lot 63A

John J 74 2/4/75 b abt 1901

Irene 68 3/24/75 b abt 1907

 

Yard --, Lot 107

Timothy 52 5/8/70 b abt 1918 son of Alexander T. Cryan

Rita M 12 11/2/35 b abt 1923 wife of Timothy (?)

 

Yard --, Lot 487

Thomas E 52 5/26/52 b abt 1900

 

Yard --, Lot 698

Joseph F 72 12/26/56b abt 1884

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 From: Fatarm@aol.com | Block address Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1999 12:12:29 EDT

 Subject: [CRYAN-L] What do you want to find? To:

 CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

I was immediately reminded by Eve's question, of one recently asked of

me by a (suspicious) elderly aunt: what was it I was looking for? Now while

my aunt was probably wondering what I wanted to know that either (a) she

couldn't tell me, or (b) was none of my business, it's a good question

to ask at those points when you're breathing inbetween research.

If you've hit a wall, i.e., you've got the parents' names but no other

records are forthcoming, do you want to trace all their descendants?

Do you want to learn more about the community they lived in? The

times/history of the era? Their siblings or only up-the-tree (so to speak) to their

parents? Their occupations?And of course, implied in the question is, 'why?' do you want to know?

I'm not throwing this out as my aunt did, in a sort of challenging way.

I'd like to know ... sometimes defining the question points to the path to

follow to get to the answer.

Personally, I want to know all of those things (that's why those are

the questions that occurred to me). I also want to develop a sense of

family -- not just, it's a rare name but we all come from Roscommon (see the

fallacies that start to fall with a few good questions!) ...

I'd love to know what questions you're seeking the answers to -- maybe

I can add them to my list!!! -Leslie

 

From: Fatarm@aol.com | Block address Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1999 12:16:18 EDT

 Subject: [CRYAN-L] Cregon Obit To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

In a small town like Washington, one never expects to find an obit for

the list in the daily paper -- but my nearly-5 month vigilance paid off

today. Is anyone on the list currently researching this spelling in

particular? - Leslie

- - - - -

The Washington Post, June 12, 1999, p. B6 Cregon, Jon Patrick

On Wednesday, June 9, 1999, in Palm Bay, FL formerly of Shady Side, MD.

 [There's still family in the area apparently.]

 

Reply-to: "Family History" < > From: "Family History" < > | Block address To: "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [CRYAN-L] CREAN reply

 Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 12:46:51 +0100

 Organisation: Family Spackman

hi EveDo you have the url for the 1901 I am interested as my gggrandfather

(John Cryan) was the national teacher at Croghan - who do you think was

the enumerator??

Re the 1901 census - each household is on a form which has been filled

in bythe head of the house, if they can write or the enumerator, if not.

Thus onesees the writing and signature of those people. I have come across

CroghanNational School no2 which is not Cryans, so I will have to wait and see

whether Croghan NS no1 signature tallies with that of the enumerator

but Isuspect that your John may be the enumerator.....however there are so

manyJohn Cryans that I can not guarantee it.I am about 2/3 of the way down the film of Boyle area and have 2 morefilmsto go and the townlands do not always occur in a sequence........ so

youwill have to be patient , as there are only 2 of us doing the whole of

Roscommon. Roger McDonnell has done the majority of the work himself.

Am in a hurry , will write again Eve

 

Reply-to: "Family History" < > From: "Family History" < > | Block address To: "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> Subject: ps Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 13:22:06 +0100 Organisation: Family SpackmanHi again,

Re 1901 census, your John Cryan was married in 1858 at which time he

wasover 21and most probably over 25, so he was born at the latest in 1837, so his

youngest age in 1901 would be 64 and he was probably older, then

wouldn't hebe retired in 1901.?

He would then not be living in the schoolhouse. We shall have to await

results.Of his parentage I have some possibilites my favoured are

a) John CRYAN and Mary HARRINGTON (of Boyle RC)which give their son

Johnborn in 1835(ie 23 at marriage and 71 at death)

andb) John CRYAN and Mary CLARK (of Boyle RC) whose son John was born in

1824(ie 34 on marriage,82 at death)but these are only the ones that I have picked out there could be

others........these are suggestions only. But what do you think ? Untilagain Eve

 

Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 16:11:29 -0500 From: Jill DeVito <jill.devito@angelo.edu> | Block address Subject: [CRYAN-L] location of St. Pat's Cem To:

 CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Sorry I forgot to be more specific.St. Patrick's Cemetery is located in Lowell, Middlesex Co.Massachussetts  Angelo State UniversityBiology DepartmentSan Angelo, TX 76909 (915) 942-2189 ext.238  (915) 942-2184 fax

 

 Reply-to: "Family History" < > From: "Family History" < > | Block address To: "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: ps Date:

 Wed, 16 Jun 1999 10:29:28 +0100 Organisation:

 Family SpackmanHi,

The reason I had for putting forward the two names that I gave was that

thetwo eldest children of John and Margaret Dolan were Mary (Jane ) and

John.I will investigate the Drurys as far as I can because you think that

theymay be cousins - they could still be cousins by a sister of John Cryan

or asister of Margaet Dolan marrying a Drury. On the other hand Michael

Drurycould be just a "very best friend" of the groom.

Until again, EvePS again, what year did John Cryan die and how old was he reported to

be -that should give roughly the year of birth.

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Caoimhghin O Croidheain <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>

To: Family History < >

Sent: 15 June 1999 17:49Subject: Re: ps

hiThanks for the suggestions. I dont have my material with me but I think

it was in the Ccroghan parish there was a j cryan who married a

catherine Drury in 1829 (The best man at my gggrandfathers wedding was

a maichael drury...) Also the first 2 sons were born in croghan and the

the third ,john , was born in Boyle ( my gggrandfather lived in croghan

) what do you think??kevinps i will have to try and send those attachments again

 

From: "Roger Cryan and Regina Pana-Cryan" <cryan@avana.net> | Block address

 Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 12:39:17 -0400 Subject: [CRYAN-L] Re: "The Irish Countryman"

 To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

To Patrick et al., The book is "The Irish Countryman" by Conrad Arensberg. It was

originallypublished in 1937 by Macmillan Company; a revised and expanded edition

waspublished in 1968 by Natural History Press for American Museum Science

Books. A 1959 edition seems to be simply a reprint of the 1937 book.

 The Library of Congress Catalog Card Number is 68-13630

 The ISBN on the inexpensive paperback (1968) edition I have is

0-385-09075-7. The book was especially enlightening regarding the family relationship

inthe Irish countryside. Arensberg did his fieldwork in Couny Clare, but

Ithink his work is relevant for those of us interested in other western

counties, as well. I found it for sale at both of these used book brokering sites:

 www.abebooks.com (there was a $2.00 and a $3.75 copy of the 1968

edition) www.bibliofind.com

 Have fun, Roger----------

> From: Cook, Jonathan A (HUK) <cookja3@texaco.com>

> To: 'cryan@avana.net'

> Subject: "The Irish Countryman"

> Date: Thursday, June 17, 1999 10:09 AM

> > Dear Roger and Regina,

> > In your posting on Rootsweb of 6th May 1999 you mentioned a bookcalled"The> Irish Countryman" by Arenburg(?). I have searched high and low forthisbut> cannot trace it anywhere. Could you let me have more details - theISBN> would be very helpful.> > Thank you for anything you can do to help.

> > Patrick Cryans

 

Reply-to: "Family History" < > From: "Family History" < > | Block address Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 08:32:09 +0100

 Organization: Family Spackman Subject: [CRYAN-L] To all

 To:

Hi to everyone,I am sorry not to hear from you all but I suppose lovely weather and

Summerholidays are taking over. Do have a good Summer......

I have collected some interesting CRYANs from the 1881 census which no

doubtwill eventually filter through. Lyle and Paul(I think) should be

especiallyinterested in those that stayed behind! However there are only 154 in

thewhole of England, Wales and Scotland.

I look forward to hearing from you all. Happy hunting Eve

 

Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 19:08:32 +1000 From: lsimpson@effect.net.au (George Simpson) | Block address Subject: [CRYAN-L] Re: CRYAN-D Digest V99 #51 To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

 

I am still looking for any information on John Creegan who settled in

Alexandria VA in 1854. He came originally from Co. Louth, possibly from

Drogheda or Drumshallon. He was born about 1830. He may have had a twin

brother and another brother, William (b. 1828). Two of the brothers

went toUSA, the third went to Australia.John Creegan was a pillar of the Alexandria establishment. Both he andhiswife Catherine McCann were highly regarded as their obituaries attest.

Would love to find any information on John and his family in Ireland.

Parents probably married in 1827/28, and probably born between 1800-10.

Thanks>Lynne Simpson Canberra Australia

 

From: RuthK3834@aol.com | Block address Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 23:16:41 EDT

 Subject: [CRYAN-L] Cregan/Fitton Research To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

I thought that I would repost my surname research since I have not done

so in a long time. I have been so busy collecting information in Ireland.

I have been researching my Cregan roots for some time on both sides of

the ocean. I would very much appreciate any help or contact anyone may

offer.My great grandmother Catherine Fitton Cregan emigrated to the United

States from Newcastle West in County Limerick, Ireland after her husband James

Cregan passed on. Only some of her ten children came with her.

The children (all of them) were Patrick born 1857 died unmarried in

1911 in Bklyn.Catherine born 1858, Bridget aka Delia aka Nellie born 1859 married

John Regan and had two sons John and Edmund. She died in 1945 and is buried

in Calvery Cemetary in Woodside Long Island with her mother and her

brother. She was John Regan's second wife. He was buried in Saugerties NY

beside his first wife. Catherine born in 1862 married a Tierney and lived in Brooklyn, NY

James born 1864Mary born 1865Michael born 1869 married and lady named Mary and lived in Manhattan. Morgan born in 1871 married Ellen O'Shea and had four daughters,

Mairen, Eileen,Dora and Celia. He remained in Ireland and fought for the freedom of

Ireland against the EnglishJohn born 1874 Tom born 1876If this family history looks familiar to any of you all I would surelylove to hear from you. Regards,Ruth, Jacksonville, Florida

 

Reply-to: "Family History" < >

 From: "Family History" < > | Block address

 Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 11:43:56 +0100 Organization: Family Spackman

 Subject: [CRYAN-L] Cryan in Co Sligo and Co Roscommon To:

Hi all,I have just bought the two maps that I have been awaiting. The Irish

Ordnance Survey Discovery series (1:50,000) is now all in print. Very

interesting it is to see all the larger townlands marked, especially as

I amnow transcribing part of Boyle parish for the 1901 census on the

LeitrimRoscommon website. I am now able to pinpoint where exactly the people

lived.One interesting feature is the distances between places. eg

Ballaghadereento Gurteen is about 10 miles, Gurteen to Boyle is about 7miles;Boyle to

Swinford about 12 to 15 miles etc

Taking it one step further - if one looks in the Irish Register Indexes

onesees born in/died in Boyle, Castlereagh,Swinford, Strokestown, Carrick

onShannon etc as the place where "registered" ie the nearest big town

with aregister office. One's ancestor could live anywhere in that town's

hinterland or not necessarily live but just happen to be. One usually

registers where the event took place. In the case of Boyle and other

townsnear the border of a county, the registration district extends over the

border.So BEWARE of making assumptions

One also has to register these events in person so one can imagine

occasionswhen, living a distance from the registry office, someone in the

townlandsays that they are taking a cart to another town with a registry and

wouldyou like a lift - I think that I would go and get the job done. So

differentbut nearby or adjacent places of registration may not mean that the

ancestorhad actually moved house. BEWARE again.

You can understand these ideas better having looked at the maps.

My brother has just visited Sligo ,Ballymote, Keash and Toomour and

talkedto people up little tracks miles from anywhere................he

called thedistrict "Ballyremote" so it must be a very lonely area......."just

my cupof tea ",I think. I will be there some time.Regards to all Eve

 

From: "Roger Cryan and Regina Pana-Cryan" <cryan@avana.net> | Block address

 Subject: Re: [CRYAN-L] Cryan in Co Sligo and Co Roscommon

 Date: Sun, 25 Jul 1999 13:16:29 -0400 To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Actually, I was in Ballymote (in Sligo, not far from Boyle) a few years

ago, and it's an actual town. (It's bigger than the place where I grew

up,but I suppose "remote" and "lonely" are relative.) At one of the main

intersections of that town there was a sort of general store with the

Cryanname on it. The owner was a friendly gentleman by the name of Barkley

Cryan, who is also an appraiser and auctioneer. FYI Roger

 

Tue, 27 Jul 1999 08:12:12 -0400 From: Maureen McCourt Nantista <mornan@nais.com> | Block address Subject: [CRYAN-L] Cryans in England To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Hi Eve,Just want to update you on the Cryan entry you sent me from the 1881

Censusof Little Lever, Lancashire, England.

Michael CRYAN aged 50 born Roscommon

Mary aged 53 born Roscommon

Peter aged 20 born Roscommon

Patrick aged 18 born Roscommon

John aged 15 born Roscommon

Catherine aged 12 born Roscommon

I ordered the LDS microfiche of the 1991 Census for the area, but the

family was no longer there. Of course one or both of the parents might

havedied during the ten year interval and the children married and/or moved

away.I do feel that they are my family. When I'm over in London this

SeptemberI'll check the birth, marriage and death indexes in the hopes of

tracingthem and perhaps locating some descendants. Will keep you informed of

theresults.Thanks again.Maureen McCourt NantistaHuntington, NY

 

From: "Michael Tobin" <tobinmi@hotmail.com> | Block address

 Subject: Re: [CRYAN-L] Cryan in Co Sligo and Co Roscommon

 Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 18:54:05 PDT To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Its being a while since I contbibuted to the discussion here. Just a

small comment on Ballymote. Depending on how you travel to it, it may seem

very remote, but as far as Co. Sligo goes, its one of the four largest towns

in Co. Sligo - the 4 being Sligo, Ballymote, Tubbercurry and Coolooney,

probably in that order. From a Sligo perspective, its far from remote,

being possibly the 2nd largest town in the county. From a large city

perspective, it probably is remote. In fact, if you live in Dublin, everywhere in

Ireland is remote compared to Dublin!!

As Roger says, its all relative. The meaning of remote to a big city

person will differ to its meaning to a small rural area person.

I thought that the description of it as Ballyremote was quite funny -

me being from a smaller area approx. 8 miles from Bally'remote', its

amusing to think that our 'urban' neigbours are still remote.

Roger, I wonder could you have got the name of the Cryan auctioneer

wrong - a second-cousin once removed of mine, whose name was Casey-Cryan rather

than Barkley-Cryan, had both a shop and auctioneer's business in Ballymote

town until recently.regardsMichael

 

 Reply-to: "Family History" < >

 From: "Family History" < > | Block address

 Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 08:55:48 +0100 Organization: Family Spackman

 Subject: [CRYAN-L] Re Cryan in Co Sligo To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Yes, the description "remote" depends on what your description of what

isnot remote. My brother had driven from another part of Ireland and

reachedSligo and then found another distance of about 10 miles to go, to what

seemed a lonely little town with nobody about. By car 10 miles is not

far,but having lived in the past, in a tiny isolated village 10 miles from

Cambridge, in England it can make one very "remote" when there is not

muchbetween. I do know that it can not compare with distances in the USA or

inAustralia or even NZ.. Having visited Ireland in the past I found that

itwas fairly common to go huge distances to a party or a dance.

 You may be interested that someone gave to my brother the local,

Ballymote,phone book/directory/ guide. In it there are about 6 Cryan phone

subscribers. One is "Bartley Cryan"- auctioneer and merchant ( Bartley

as aname occurs periodically way back in the registers, I think that it may

be acorruption/diminutive of Bartholemew which is a bit of a mouthful)

Another advertisment is for Mary Rose Cryan who I think (my brother

took thephone book away with him) sold cards and gifts.

My brother then went on to Keash where he was entertained by "the local

historian"....meaning given hospitality, and had a very pleasant

afternoon.Eve

 

Thu, 29 Jul 1999 08:19:02 -0400 From: Maureen McCourt Nantista <mornan@nais.com> | Block address Subject: [CRYAN-L] Re. Cryans in England To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Eve,Again very much appreciate the work you're doing!

You've saved me hours of valuable research time in London.

Am going to order 6 of the certs. (at 8 pounds each - especially if

they'renot the right ones - I can see how tracing this line forward could be

quitecostly). Hopefully they'll arrive before my departure September 15.

>do let me know when you are coming to England....who knows I

>may be around.Will be spending a few days in London upon my arrival September 16,

thenhead north and into Scotland- returning again before my departure

October7. My UK itinerary is somewhat flexible and open to change if, by some

stroke of good fortune, I'm able to locate some relatives.

Thanks again.Maureen

 

From: "Roger Cryan and Regina Pana-Cryan" <cryan@avana.net> | Block address

 Subject: Re: [CRYAN-L] Cryan in Co Sligo and Co Roscommon

 Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 10:16:07 -0400 To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Michael, I'm quite sure his name was Barkley Cryan, although I don't remember

thename of his son, who was running the store. (This was in 1997.) I

have acopy of his letterhead, which reads: "Cryan & Co. M.I.A.V.I.;

Auctioneersand Valuers; Ballymote, Co. Sligo; Tel: 071 - 83316" Roger Cryan

 

 Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 06:49:31 -0700 (PDT)

 From: Caoimhghin O Croidheain <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> | Block address

 Subject: [CRYAN-L] Roscommon Cryan graves

 To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Hiinfo from fotos I took in Ardcarne and Drumlion cemeteries

Also if anyone can help me with Charles Cryan who died last year ie

anyone who will be in the death records office in London - I would

appreciate it.I have photos of the following gravestones :-

Drumlion Cemetery (The main Cryan cemetery in this area)

In Loving Memory of Bridget Cryan, Carrowreagh. Died 9th Feb. 1962.

Her Daughter Josephine Clapp, d. 3rd March 1967.

Sacred heart of Jesus have mercy on the soul of Bridie Cryan

Carrowreagh, d. 8-2-1992. aged 88

In loving memory of William Cryan, Bridge St., Carick-on-Shannon. d.

20-6-1989. aged 71.

In Loving Memory of John Cryan, Lakeview, Carrowreagh, d. 13-11-1970.

His wife Delia. d. 15-9-1982.

In Loving Memory of Patricia Cryan, Croghan Rd., d. 13 June 1987. aged

50.

Ardcarne Cemetery

In Loving Memory of John Cryan who died 1935? his wife Eleanor Mary who

died 1950? their son John E. who died in 1979. (a little unclear)

Marcella Cryan, Carrick road d. 10-9-1987.

 

From: Fatarm@aol.com | Block address Date:

 Mon, 9 Aug 1999 00:13:12 EDT Subject: [CRYAN-L] One Year Anniversary and a Creeggan (Canadian) To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Congrats to us! We're still on the topic after one full year! And

although we've only had a few distant cousins find one another, I for one feel

as though I've learned a tremendous amount. Thank you all for sharing ...

I read in the Washington Post about a Canadian band (rock) with a

member named Jim Creeggan. That's a first for that spelling, no? He's a

member of "The Barenaked Ladies."On a personal note, I'm finally in my house, and I'm never, EVER movingever, EVER again. I may never even leave my house. Well, okay, I'll leave

it to visit Ireland! ... and to do research after the school year begins.

My new home raises 2 questions: (1) is it true that "everyone" in

Ireland is devoted to the 'Sacred Heart'; and (2) has there ever been a drought in

Ireland?Hope everyone is enjoying lovely weather (but we could use some rain

desperately), Leslie

 

 Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 10:31:37 -0500 From: Jill DeVito <jill.devito@angelo.edu> | Block address Subject: Re: [CRYAN-L] One Year Anniversary and a Creeggan (Canadian)

 To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Speaking of rock bands and genealogy, I thought I might share a

genealogical discovery of mine...A few months ago, while researching my Ultican line (they immigrated

fromCavan County, Ireland to New Brunswick, Canada) I found a distant

cousinonline who had done a considerable amount of work with the recent

branchesof the Ultican tree. According to her research, I am a distant cousin

toKurt Cobain, who was the lead singer of the band Nirvana in the Seattle

area.It was a little anticlimactic to find I was related to someone famous a

fewyears _after_ he took his own life... But it was a pretty exciting

discovery anyway. You never know who you might find yourself related

to!JillAngelo State UniversityBiology DepartmentSan Angelo, TX 76909

(915) 942-2189 ext.238

(915) 942-2184 fax

 

From: "jmitchell" <jmitchell@ameritech.net> | Block address Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 11:46:51 -0400 Subject: [CRYAN-L] Another musical CREGAN To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Jim Cregan:

http://farmdogs.com/jim.html

http://members.aol.com/songforme/circle/creg.htm

Words to "Forever Young" *sounds* like an Irish blessing!

http://www.musica.org/letras/ing1/F15998.htm

 

From: "Michael Tobin" <tobinmi@hotmail.com> | Block address Subject: Re: [CRYAN-L] One Year Anniversary and a Creeggan (Canadian) Date: Mon, 09 Aug 1999 16:38:28 PDT

 To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com Add Addresses

LeslieGlad to hear that you're settled in your new house.

Re your questions, I think in previous generations there was more

devotion to the Sacred Heart than nowadays. Most houses that I know of from my

youth in rural Ireland, always had a Sacred Heart picture in a prominent

position on the wall in one of the main rooms. Of course, having the picture

there doesn't mean that they were very devout but in most cases, I think they

were. To have a Sacred Heart picture was regarded as bringing a special

blessing on the house.In the current under-40 generations, I don't think this devotion is as

strong - the Catholic church has seen a fall-off in Church attendances,

etc although most would still profess to be of the Catholic faith. But

some, including myself, would still regard having a Sacred Heart picture in

the house as important.

As an aside, back in the 1970's, another very common picture to have

hanging up was a special 3-picture frame with 3 small photo's in it - of JF

Kennedy, Pope John (not sure which one) and I think the third 'saint' was Grace

Kelly. Maybe someone else can confirm the identity of the 3 people, but

JFK and the Pope were certainly 2 of the three.

Re your second question, I have never heard of a drought in Ireland.

We've certainly had dry spells from time to time, but to my knowledge nothing

that could ever remotely approach being described as a drought. The last few

years in particular have seen summer and winter merge into one extended

shower of rain almost (a little bit of an exaggeration, but only a

little!). The last 8 weeks have been the best weather we've had in 3 or 4 years -

and even in these 8 weeks, we've had a fair bit of rain - the longest being

probably 7 or 8 days without rain. Apparantly, the rain is one of the

reasons for Ireland having been named the Emerald Isle - the grass

stays green here all year round.regardsMichael

 

From: "Michael Tobin" <tobinmi@hotmail.com> | Block address

 Date: Mon, 09 Aug 1999 16:52:25 PDT Subject: [CRYAN-L] introduction to Cryan history

 To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com Add Addresses

Hello folks,I am writing up a family history of my own family and want to put a

short introduction to the history of the Cryan name. I have used a number of

sources for this, including some of the information posted to this

list. I would really appreciate if you could read the following and send me any

comments on it. As my Cryan family are from Keash, I hope to try to

firmly establish how the Cryans came to Keash. I may need to include Boyle in

this also as they are probably all the one bunch if you go back far enough.

Please regard the following as a draft - its far from perfect but its a

start. Looking forward to any comments you can send me.

regardsMichael

The Cryan name is believed to have originated from the old Irish

surname, O'Croidheáin which in turn is reputed to be derived from the Irish

word 'croi' meaning heart. Variants of the name include O'Crean, O'Cregan,

Crean and Crehan.

O'Rorke, in his history of Sligo, sets out some early history on the

O'Crean family of Sligo. O'Rorke speculates that the family came to

Sligo from Donegal "towards the close of the fifteenth century" and indicates

that the family became "the most distinguished family then in the place

after that of the O'Connors".

The first record of the Sligo branch of the family is to a Cormac

O'Crean. Cormac is buried in an impressive family tombstone in the Dominican

Friary in Sligo town (also known as Sligo Abbey). The Abbey was founded in

1252 approximately. According to a booklet produced by the Stationery

Office, "The earliest dated monument is the O'Craian or Crean tomb of 1506 in a

recess in the north wall of the nave, just west of the rood-screen.

....The Latin inscription, along the upper margin of the top slab of the tomb

chest, is incomplete, but the date (1506) and the name Cormac O'Craian can be

read".Interestingly, the only other comparable tomb in the Abbey belongs to

the O'Connor Sligo family, supporting O'Rorke's assertion that the O'Craian

family were a very wealthy family of that time. It can

reasonably be assumed that they made large financial contributions to

the upkeep of the Abbey and the friars, and that the friars expressed their

gratitude by allowing the family to build such a fine tombstone.

The same tombstone has further inscriptions, one of which "dated 1616,

is built into the recess of the O'Craian tomb ... The initials A.C. and

E.F. seem to be those of Andrew Crean and his wife".

O'Rorke notes that the Annals of the Four Masters record the death of

Henry O'Crean in the year 1572, "a rich and affluent merchant of Lower

Connaught" and also refers to an "Andrew Crean, or O'Crean,

who from Prior of Sligo, became Bishop of Elphin". The Bishop is

recorded as having been granted a fee of 12d a day for life in 1547 by Henry VIII.

O'Rorke comments on the "dubious" nature of this

transaction - with Henry VIII being infamous for his split with the

Roman Catholic Church.

In O'Rorke's history, he also records that "the O'Creans were not long

in Sligo when they began to invest money in land; and before many years

had passed, they held landed estate not only near the town, but in various

other parts of the country. Andrew O'Crean of Annagh, or Hazelwood and much

of the parishes of Carbury and St. John, in the barony of Carbury, but

also considerable stretches of land in Leyney, Tereragh, and Coolavin, as

well as the abbey of Ballindoon, in the barony of Tirerrill". This may be the

Andrew who was buried in 1616 in Sligo Abbey although O'Rorke suggests

that he died in 1641.

The name Andrew appears to have been a very common name in the Crean

family of this era. An Andrew Creane, Merchant and a John Creane, Gent are

noted as burgesses in 'Sligoe' on March 21 1687. Burgess was a term used to

describe a member of parliament for a borough , town or university.

Liam Swords, in his History of the Diocese of Achonry, indicates that

the O'Crean family lost much of their property as a result of the 1641

rebellion - i.e. the rebellion which resulted in the subjugation of the country

by Oliver Cromwell and the subsequent reallocation of lands. It is unclear

whether the family were relocated to other lands. However, it is not

beyond belief that they were resettled to the general area from Boyle to

Ballymote as that certainly appears to be the main area from where bearers of the

Cryan name have come since 1800.

Judging by its absense from the limited records prior to the 1700's and

its frequent use in the the early Church and Civil record of the 1800's, it

is reasonable to assume that spelling of the name as Cryan

commenced in the 1700's. During this period, the population were slowly

becoming more educated, with more people learning to read and write.

Perhaps they wrote down the name Crean as they pronouce it and

ended up with "Cryan". Although this is questionable given that the

letter "y" is not part of the Irish language which was still widely used

during the 1700's. Hopefully as this research progresses, the origination of the

spelling of the name will become clear.

Returning to the general Boyle-Ballymote area, judging from the

frequency with which the name occurs in the 1800's and 1900's compared to other

parts of the country and taking account of other people whom I have

encountered tracing their Cryan relatives from that area, this area is most

certainly the home of the name for at least 200 years and probably much longer.

Parish of Keash

Whatever about the origins of the name generally, the parish of Keash

was home to many many Cryan familes down through the years.

The Griffith's Valuation of the 1850's lists the following Cryans as

occupiers of land in each townland :-

 Parish Townland Cryan Families

 Drumrat Linconwy a) Martin

 Toomour Tonaponra a) Matthew

 Tully a) Daniel

 Brougher a) Patrick;

 b) Roger;

 c) Bridget, Patrick,

 Mary, Patrick, James, James;

 d) Martin

 Carrowcrory a) Daniel;

 b) John (Naples);

 c) Thomas;

 d) John, James;

 e) Michael, Michael, Patrick;

 f) John

 Derrygolagh a) Matthew Cryan;

 b) Thomas;

 c) James (Strong);

 d) Thomas;

 e) Patrick (Gildea);

 f) James (Jack);

 g)Patrick (Ruadh);

 h) Martin

 Carrowreagh a) Martin

 Toomour a) Michael

 Dernaskeagh a) Matthew

 

The above lists 24 separate individuals or groups of Cryans. Where

names are grouped, this reflects that they are listed in a group in Griffith's.

I'm not 100% sure why this is so, but most likely they are the one family.

It is not possible to determine from Griffith's whether the same name may be

listed twice for different townlands, but the total of 24 is reasonably

accurate for the townlands listed.

Also, currently the above list of townlands is incomplete, so more

families may have resided elsewhere in the parish. Note that in the above

parishes, the name is spelt exclusively as Cryan - there is no other variation

such as Crean in the records.

 

Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 09:43:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Caoimhghin O Croidheain <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> | Block address Subject: [CRYAN] Re: [CRYAN-L] introduction to Cryan history To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com Add Addresses

Dear Michael croidhe is now croi(fada on i)heart

'an' (fada on a) means 'noble' as in 'aos-an' fairies (noble people)

croidhe - ain 'noble heart' The word 'croiain' (with fada on i and a) is still in use in Donegal as

the word for a 'gallant' or 'suitor'.I believe this is the most likely origination of the name as

'heartlike' or 'heartthing' or 'little heart' do not refer to specific

emotional symbols we associate with the heart.

regards caoimhghin (caoimh-'gentle' g(h)in-'birth')

 

Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 11:17:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Caoimhghin O Croidheain <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> | Block address Subject: [CRYAN] charles cryan To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com Add Addresses

HI AS BEFORE IM STILL TRYING TO FIND OUT ABOUT A FIRST COUSIN OF MY FATHER

, Charles CryanI believe he died last year and the only info we have about him is that

he worked as a manager of a pub in London I tried to find out name of

the vintners association on the net to see if there was anyone I could

write to but to no avail.How do I start to find out information on somebody who died in London?

Maybe his name is on the death records by now?? That might give me some

information eg his address at death, a friend, which hospital he was

admitted to etcMaybe a list of hospitals will give me his name??

Any ideas anybody? I would appreciate any help in this modern

genealogical mystery!!!regardscaoimhghinps He has a sister but they didnt communicate - that is why I have nocontacts to go by.

 

From: Paul Cryan <paul@sdiuk.com> | Block address To: 'Caoimhghin O Croidheain' <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> Subject: RE: [CRYAN] charles cryan Date:

 Wed, 11 Aug 1999 08:51:34 +0100 Add Addresses

Dear Caoimhghin,The telephone number of the Vintner's Association in London is ++44 171

2361863, Births and Deaths are registered at St. Catherine's House,

Kingsway, London, WC2. Hope this is of some help.

Kind Regards

 

From: Paul Cryan <paul@sdiuk.com> | Block address To: 'Caoimhghin O Croidheain' <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> Subject: RE: [CRYAN] charles cryan Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 12:12:18 +0100 Add Addresses

Hi Again,Just spoke to a guy at the Vintners Assoc., Vintner's Hall, Upper

ThamesStreet, London, EC4V 3VJ who said that they will have records only of

their members, not publicans, but the guy on the phone was very

helpful,and also gave me the address of the Brewer's Company at Brewer's Hall,

Aldermanbury Square, EC2V 7HR, or Distiller's Co., 71 Lincoln's Inn

Fields, London, WC2A 3JF Regards Paul

 

From: "jmitchell" <jmitchell@ameritech.net> | Block address Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 19:43:40 -0400 Subject: [CRYAN] 3 CROGHANS from Roscommon To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com Add Addresses

DATE SHIP TO FROM WHO AGE ORIGIN

1847/09/19,,ROSCIUS,New York via Liverpool,CROGHAN,John,,24,,Co.

Roscommon

1847/09/19,,ROSCIUS,New York via Liverpool,CROGHAN,Margaret,,26,,Co.

Roscommon

1847/09/19,,ROSCIUS,New York via Liverpool,CROGHAN,Patrick,,28,,Co.

Roscommon

>From http://www.rootsweb.com/~irish/passlist/5800list.htm#B

Hope this helps someone.

Jo jmitchell@ameritech.net

http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cregan/index.htm

http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Cregan

 

 From: "Michael Tobin" <tobinmi@hotmail.com> | Block address Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 16:50:11 PDT Subject: [CRYAN] more early Cryan records To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Some more information I came across in a library recently :-

"The Compossicion Booke of Conought", 1585.

This was a survey of the size of all townlands in Connacht, undertaken

during the reign of Elizabeth I. It lists the names of the townlands

and their size in "qrs". I'm not sure what measurement this is as it seems

to be far greater than acres.

>From a Cryan perspective, the interesting piece of information is at

the start of the part on Sligo where it lists 16 people who supplied the

information for the survey on oath. The 16 all seem to be from

prominent familes and are perhaps the heads of their families. The 16 include

"William O'Crean" of Sligo.

Second piece of information, from the Donovan Letters. These were

letters written during the time of the Ordance Survey in 1836. I believe they

cover the entire country.

For the parish of 'Toomower' (now part of Keash and more commonly

spelled as Toomour but pronounced Toomower), it has 2 pages of information. It

lists the principal family names in the parish as Harts, Henrys, Mc

Donoughts, Scanlans, O'Conors, Killorans, Crynes and Keeltys. The precise text for

the reference to Crynes is

"Crynes Clann Chréín S. a Chréín.

(Crines) (ei like ei in feill in Leath Mhogha)"

Later in the same 2 pages of information, it says "In the townland of

Temple-a-vanny (Teampull a Mhanaigh) are the ruins of an old Church or

Monastery called Teampull a Mhanaigh from which the townland is named.

It is said to have been built by Manach Ruadh who (my informant believed) was

of the family of the Crynes (Crines). They say it was a 'monk-house'

belonging to the Abbey of Boyle, and that the Monks had the estate as a grant

from the family of the Kings, ancestors to Lord Lorton. It was called Dúithche

(Dúthaigh) na Manach."

 

From: Fatarm@aol.com | Block address Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 21:06:35 EDT

 Subject: [CRYAN] More on Croghan (I sent that last one a bit too early) To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com Add Addresses

> -----Original Message-----

> From: mlutz [mailto:mlutz@airnet.net]

> Sent: Saturday, July 24, 1999 10:05 AM

> To: ROSCOMMON-L@rootsweb.com

> Subject: CROGHAN-DENIGAN

>>> Family legend stresses that Patrick Croghan came from County

Roscommon,> Ireland. The LDS records have a lot of CROGHANS and DENIGANS shown

as> being in Parish Kilbride. Another list shows that Parish Kilbride is

in> County Antrim.>> Could anyone tell me where Corbohill, Carnalasson, and Carrowgloher

are?> I have reason to believe that the CROGHAN family lived in the Four

Mile> House area in County Roscommon.>> Any information that anyone could provide about these two names wouldbe most welcome.>> Thanks,>> Mary

From: Fatarm@aol.com | Block address Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 13:59:11 EDT

 Subject: [CRYAN] Corrected List of webpages of subscribers To:

 CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Yesterday's posting had errors. Please note the corrections or replaceyesterday's message with today's!

www.geocities.com/heartland/ranch/2926

www.inch.com/~amethyst/idxc.htm or www.inch.com/~amethyst/family.htm

genforum.familytreemaker.com/new.html

http://members.tripod.com/~havana_2/index.html (main page) and (for

additional pages) http://members.tripod.com/~havana_2/index-2.html and /index-3.html

www.geocities.com/heartland/woods/6036/index.html and

www.angelfire.com/ma.evitaeap/index.html

http://www.computerworld.com/home/print.nsf/all/9810126E1A

www.geocities.com/soho/square/3038/index.html

www.geocities.com/heartland/ranch/2926

http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cregan/index.htm and

http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Cregan

(completely omitted yesterday)

 

 From: ljstandak@webtv.net (Lyle Staehnke) | Block address Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 14:28:43 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [CRYAN] RE:Cryan To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

I don`t recall if I sent this out before, Some Miscelaneous Info about

the Cryan family.Maybe it will help some One.Its all jammed together as

you can see!

 MISC CRYAN

Cryan Family Of Boyle, Co. Roscommon [ Follow Ups ] [ The

Leitrim-Roscommon Bulletin Board ] [ FAQ ] Posted by Maureen McCourt

Nantista on May 02, 1997 at 01:00:06: Am interested in hearing from

anyone with information concerning the Cryans of Boyle Parish. My own

family is as follows: 1. Peter CRYAN (abt 1798) sp. Araeta MATTIMOE

(abt1798) 2. Catherine CRYAN (1823) 2. Peter CRYAN (1824) 2. Michael CRYAN

(1826) sp. Mary DURR (1828) 3. Mary Ann CRYAN (1853) ? sp. James

BRENNAN

(1853) 3. Michael CRYAN (1855-1933) sp. Bridget CASEY (1855-1917) 4.

Michael J. CRYAN (1881-1961) 4. Jane CRYAN (1882-1951) sp- Michael

CUNNINGHAM(1881-1962) 4. John CRYAN (1884-1929) sp. Sarah MCINTOSH

(1889-1967) 4. Bridget CRYAN (1885-1963) sp. James SCANLON (?-1973) 4.

Patrick Joseph CRYAN (1887-1917) sp. Julia GAINE (1894) 4. Mary Anne

CRYAN (1888-1894) 4. Peter CRYAN (1890-1917) 4. Catherine CRYAN

(1892-1911) 4. Eugene CRYAN (1894-1913) 4. Francis Joseph CRYAN

(1897-1960) 4. Leo Augustine CRYAN (1899-1981) 3. Elizabeth CRYAN

(1857)

3. Peter CRYAN (1860) 3. Patrick CRYAN (1862) 3. John CRYAN (1864) 3.

John CRYAN (1866) The family lived in Deerpark and Boyle. Michael CRYAN

(1855-1933) was well known and steward of the Catholic Club. His sons

Michael J., Francis and Leo formed the popular Boyle Havana Band. Leo

was also the govt. insurance agent in Boyle. In addition to CRYAN

relatives I would like to learn of any DURR or CASEY cousins of this

family. Will supply additional information to anyone interested. Thank

you and good luck to all reading this. Follow Ups: [ Follow Ups ] [ The

Leitrim-Roscommon Bulletin Board ] [ FAQ ]

The National Archives of Ireland Search results Found 2 records

matchingcryan. Printing first 2 of 2 records. The document reference in each

entry below is the National Archives of Ireland reference to the

original document in the archives. The microfilm reference number

refersto the set of microfilms presented to Australia in 1988. Record 1 of 2

SURNAME: CRYAN OTHER NAMES: JOHN AGE: 28 SEX: M ALIAS: PLACE OF TRIAL:

Co. Sligo TRIAL DATE: 20/06/1848 PLACE OF IMPRISONMENT: DOCUMENT DATE:

CRIME DESCRIPTION: Burglary with intent SENTENCE: Transportation 7 yrs

SHIP: London PETITIONER: RELATIONSHIP: DOCUMENT REFERENCES: TR 8, P 142

MICROFILM REFERENCES: COMMENTS: Record 2 of 2 SURNAME: CRYAN OTHER

NAMES: JOHN AGE: 0 SEX: M ALIAS: PLACE OF TRIAL: Sligo TRIAL DATE:

20/06/1849 PLACE OF IMPRISONMENT: kilmainham DOCUMENT DATE: 24/03/1850

CRIME DESCRIPTION: burglary SENTENCE: transportation 7 yrs SHIP:

PETITIONER: RELATIONSHIP: DOCUMENT REFERENCES: CRF1850misc2(2)

MICROFILMREFERENCES: COMMENTS: Back to the Transportation Search Page Back to

National Archives home page Last update:29sep95

Ontario Cemetery Finding Aid Search Results For information on the

Database Fields, see the OCFA Field Information page. Name: CRYAN,

Annie(Clyne) Cemetery: Avondale, Stratford (Roman Catholic sections) County:

Perth Township: Downie Reference: PH-286-3 Name: CRYAN, David Cemetery:

Avondale, Stratford (Roman Catholic sections) County: Perth Township:

Downie Reference: PH-286-3 Name: CRYAN, Ellen Cemetery: St Josephs

RomanCatholic County: Perth Township: Ellice Reference: PH-000-0 Name:

CRYAN,John Cemetery: St Josephs Roman Catholic County: Perth Township: Ellice

 

 Reference: PH-000-0 Name: CRYAN, Valentine Cemetery: Avondale,

Stratford(Roman Catholic sections) County: Perth Township: Downie Reference:

PH-286-3 Back to the OCFA Search Page Back to the OCFA Home Page

Saved message From: cdobie@superaje.com (Charles Dobie) Date: Wed, Jun

10, 1998, 12:19am (PDT+3) To: ljstandak@webtv.net (Lyle Staehnke)

Subject: Cryan in OCFA 6 Lyle, Here are the CRYAN entries in OCFA 6:

"CRYAN","-","Holy Angels Roman Catholic, St

Thomas","Elgin","Yarmouth","EL-535","C650" "CRYAN","Anna

Freeman","Avondale, Stratford (Range

18)","Perth","Downie","PH-288-X","C650" "CRYAN","Charles J.","Holy

Angels Roman Catholic, St Thomas","Elgin","Yarmouth","EL-535","C650"

"CRYAN","Charles L.","Holy Angels Roman Catholic, St

Thomas","Elgin","Yarmouth","EL-535","C650" "CRYAN","Delia S.","Holy

Angels Roman Catholic, St Thomas","Elgin","Yarmouth","EL-535","C650"

"CRYAN","Emerson S.","Holy Angels Roman Catholic, St

Thomas","Elgin","Yarmouth","EL-535","C650" "CRYAN","Joseph

P.","Avondale, Stratford (Range 18)","Perth","Downie","PH-288-X","C650"

"CRYAN","Nellie Kelterborn","Avondale, Stratford (Range

18)","Perth","Downie","PH-288-X","C650" "CRYAN","Wilfred C.","Avondale,

Stratford (Range 18)","Perth","Downie","PH-288-X","C650" I hope they

aresome use to you. Cheers, Charlie Dobie, cdobie@superaje.com

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nationales du Canada Irish Rowing Hall of Fame SENIOR ROWING CHAMPIONS: 1912 - 1996 Most

Individual Wins Name:Club(s): M/WWins 8'sWinsEvents: Frank

MOOREGarda-Neptune M1478, 4+, 2-, 2xGerry MURPHYNeptuneM1488, 4+ Eunan

DOLANNeptuneM 1378, 4+ Nicole RYANCommercial-Anna Liffey-Workmen's

W13.4+, 2-Niall O'TOOLECommercialM12.2x, 1x, L1x Willie RYANGardaM

1268,4+, 2-, 2x Frances CRYANCarrick-on-Shannon W11.1xCathy BUCHANANQueen's

Ladies'-Belfast RC W10.4+, 2-, 1xJohn * GUARANTEED GOOD FOOD * . ......at Cryan's Riverside Restaurant TheRestaurant specialises in Traditional Homecooked Cuisine Proffering THE

BEST in Good Wholesome Food FRESH SEAFOOD GOOD IRISH BEEF STEAKS 'Daily

Specials' for Breakfast, Lunch & Evening Dinner (A La' Carte) OPEN 7

DAYS 8 till LATE * GUARANTEED GOOD MUSIC & CRAIC * ......at Cryan's

Riverside Bar Traditional Irish Music every Tuesday, Friday, Saturday

and Sunday Nights. * GUARANTEED A FRIENDLY STAY * .......at Cryan's

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Faulkinbury and FEEFHS, 1996 Latest Update: 29 April 1996 This Web-Base

is a finding aid to the compiled voter registration data in Jim W.

Faulkinbury's "Foreign-Born Voters of California in 1872". His

compilation also contains information regarding the naturalization of

these voters; namely the date, place and court of record where the

naturalization took place. A sample page has been scanned to show what

aGreat Register page looks like(this is a 107K JPEG scan). For details

onhow to obtain this additional information, please see How Do I Obtain

More Information. For details about this collection, please see

Foreign-Born Voters of California in 1872 - Details. Note: This is one

of a number of files that comprises a total of 61,691 records extracted

by Jim W. Faulkinbury, C.G.R.S. from the county level Great Registers

ofVoters for California in 1872. They were hand-coded into HTML by FEEFHS

and initially posted as 29 files in late March 1996. The FBVCA Index

provides current information about the status of this project. If you

selected this file in error, return to the Full Text [search engine]

Index of this FEEFHS Web Site now. Surname, Given Name....Age in

Registration Year...Birth Location...Record Cryan, Thomas......39 in

1872......born in Ireland......11335 Number Home page is http://members.tripod.com/~havana_2/index.html Also index-2.html

andindex-3.html Lyle

 

 From: "Linda Carrier" <carrier@massed.net> | Block address Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 17:06:15 -0400 Subject: [CRYAN] CREAN To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

 

I am researching a line of Creans which come from Co. Kerry.

Specifically Ibelieve Castle Gregory. My grandmother was Catherine Theresa Crean b.

1913in Co. Kerry. Her father's name was Patrick Crean. Catherine

traveled tothe US in 1929 at the age of 16. She settled in Holyoke, MA. The

story wasthat she came to this country alone. I've since found out that she

livedwith her mother Bridget Crean here in Holyoke. Bridget does disappear

fromrecords here in 1937 I suspect she returned to Ireland. My grandmother

alsolived with an Anne Crean while here. . I know very little about my

grandmother's family as she refused to speak about the old country.

Ifanyone has any information on this line or a Crean line from the area

I'dlove to hear from you.Happy Hunting!Linda Carrier

 

Reply-to: "Family History" < > From: "Family History" < > | Block address To: "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: hi! Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 11:14:03 +0100 Organization: Family Spackman

Hi Caoimhghin,I will try to answer your points in order -

Charles Cryan:I am sorry not to have visited the GRO in London since I last told you

backin March. Apart from all the other things that I do I have been

clearing up,painting and selling my mother's place,so time has been rather short.

Coincidentally we are planning to go up to London next week to the GRO

soput your mind at rest I will do what I can.To write for a death certificate one needs either the volume and pagenumberfrom the index and then one can write to the Office of National

Statisticsin Southport(I'll find the proper address) or the place and then one

canwrite to the local registrar and you do not need the index number.

Localregistrars are much less over loaded than Southport about which I had

heardthat short staff and increased demand for services had led to delays of

upto 6 weeks whereas in March I received my certificates in about 5 - 6

days.The problem about Charles is that as yet we do not know either the

place orthe index number, so we have to look in the index volumes..

I will do my best next week (probably Thursday) and let you know.

 

John Cryan enumerator/ census checker.

Do you have access to a Mormon FHC ? Because if so,you could look at

thephotographs of the original returns of the 1901 census.

Everything I have extracted so far is now publicly available on the

Leitrim/Roscommon web site.The next group of data is of Boyle town, it

isnot ready yet.However if I remember correctly the first film that I

viewedhad to be abandoned half way through and returned to the central depot

because I had had it too long and the next film had arrived. So I

decided tofinish the second film and then go back to finish the first. So if I

havenot yet reached your family I am sorry The Leitrim/Roscommon web site

ishttp://www.thecore.com/let_ros

I have just checked my files to find that the earlier film was

abandoned inthe middle of Croghan townland. The FHC had problems with staff at the

timeand was closed for a period so I hadto make a decision. I will get back

toit but each film is very long and has taken me much longer than the 20

hoursestimated, probably double.But then the estimate may be for a shorter

lengthof film.

 

About the parents of John Cryan National School teacher -

I gave a couple of suggestions as to the parents but we need a bit more

information. Do you know his age when he died ? This is not always

accuratebut it could narrow the possibilities.

We may find him in the census in which case we may know more and can

make aselection . If he is about 66 in 1901 then it more likely that his

mother isMary Harrington, and then I can give you more about them.

I said that there were a great many John Cryans but I have been very

VERYsuprised that there have been so few Cryans on my films of the 1901

census.I f you look at the map on the Let-Ros site you will see how much of

thecounty has been completed and how much is in process, something of the

orderof 50,000 individuals, say 10,000 households and of those so far only

about17 are Cryan !!! So out of these there are not many John Cryans , and I

amalmost sure that the enumerator must be your John (an ideal job just

afterretirement for a well known and prominent , reliable member of the

community)I am sure we will find him when we get there but he may have retired

and notbe living in the schoolhouse......do you have any clues as to address ?

doyou have the death certificate which will give an address?

When I get to him I will photocopy the entry and send it to you.

 

Now I hope that you do not mind if I ask something for me -

I understand that you live just outside Dublin - do you ever go to the

National Registry or to the National Archives?

In particular I would love to know more about the John Cryan mentioned

inthe Convict Transportation records of those sent to Australia.There are

onlytwo Cryan records but I suspect they refer to the same person and fit

withthe possibility ,age etc of my elusive gggrandfather. I have found from

other sources that the ship The London went to Tasmania but have not

yetwritten to the Tasmanian Archives because the record number/document

numberonly refers to Ireland. May be he only got as far as Liverpool! My

ggrandfather John and his brother Daniel would be about 4 at the time.

Perhaps the records will give the wife and family of the convict.

The document references/numbers areTR 8,p 142 and CRF1850misc2(2)

I am sure other Cryan have been tantalised by the references and if

nothingelse be pleased to cross a criminal off or out of their connections.until again,Eve

 

Reply-to: "Family History" < > From: "Family History" < > | Block address To: "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: hi! Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 10:30:41 +0100 Organization: Family Spackman

Hi Caoimhghain,

I selected the families as being likely candidates for the honour of

beingyour John's parents because his first two children were named

Mary(Jane) andJohn and the practice was to name the first boy and girl after the

father'sparents. These families then had a John that could be of the same age

asyour John.These are extracted from the Parish registers. I agree that the John

,son ofMary Clark is probably too old but the age from the death certificate

couldclear this up but we will have to see - I only have one child for that

family.But John ,son of Mary HARRINGTON is highly likely, so I have given the

otherchildren of the family. I do not have the marriage date. (cont)

-----------------------------------------------------

CRYNE, Joanes Christening

 Sex: Male

 Christening Date: 20 Oct 1824 Recorded in: Roman Catholic, Boyle,

Roscommon, Ireland

 Father: Joanes CRYNE

 Mother: Maria CLARK

----------------------------------------------------------------------------

CRIAN, Patritium Christening

 Sex: Male

 Christening Date: 20 Feb 1833 Recorded in: Roman Catholic, Boyle,

Roscommon, Ireland

 Father: Johanis CRIAN

 Mother: Mariae HARRINGTON

----------------------------------------------------------------------------

CRYAN, Johannem Christening

 Sex: Male

 Christening Date: 29 Mar 1835 Recorded in: Roman Catholic, Boyle,

Roscommon, Ireland

 Father: Johannis CRYAN

 Mother: Mariae HARRINGTON

-----------------------------------

CRYAN, Thomas Christening

 Sex: Male

 Christening Date: 16 Jun 1839 Recorded in: Roman Catholic, Boyle,

Roscommon, Ireland

 Father: Joannis CRYAN

 Mother: Mariae HARRINGTON

----------------------------------------------------------------------------

CRYAN, Martinus Christening

 Sex: Male

 Christening Date: 25 Nov 1840 Recorded in: Roman Catholic, Boyle,

Roscommon, Ireland

 Father: Johannis CRYAN

 Mother: Mariae HARRINGTON

----------------------------------------------------------------------------

CRYAN, Jacobum Christening

 Sex: Male

 Christening Date: 10 May 1846 Recorded in: Roman Catholic, Boyle,

Roscommon, Ireland

 Father: Johannis CRYAN

 Mother: Mariae HARRINGTON

----------------------------------------------------------------------------

CRINE, Bridget Christening

 Sex: Female

 Christening Date: 28 Jan 1854 Recorded in: Roman Catholic, Boyle,

Roscommon, Ireland

 Father: John CRINE

 Mother: Mary HARRINGTON

----------------------------------------------------------------------------

CRIAN, Johanem Christening

 Sex: Male

 Christening Date: 24 Jun 1833 Recorded in: Roman Catholic, Boyle,

Roscommon, Ireland

 Father: Johanis CRIAN

 Mother: Catharinae DRURY

----------------------------------------------------------------------------

CRYAN, Jacobus Christening

 Sex: Male

 Christening Date: 20 Nov 1842 Recorded in: Roman Catholic, Boyle,

Roscommon, Ireland

 Father: Johannis CRYAN

 Mother: Catherinae DRURY

----------------------------------------------------------------------------

I also have the marriage of a John CRYAN and Catherine DRURY/MCDRURY

asdated 1829 in Croghan but I did not write down the source and just at

themoment can not find it again . Though I have looked through the lists

thatyou sent to the CRYAN maillist - Mary Creasers extracts fron Croghan

parishregister, and all my parish register stuff, and my extracts from the

IGI. Itis unusual that I did not write down the source especially as there is

ayear and place.

I may have collected this information from you, if you have ever posted

it.But I shall keep looking.

-------------------------

About John Cryan teacher of Croghan. You say that you have "a death

abstract" , Is this a certificate? It does not sound like one.

If you do not have a certificate, I will look in the Irish death

indexes -already had it . Fortunately I had extracted up to 1907. No John Cryan

was registered in 1906 and only one in the whole of 1907.So that must be

your John - here it is.

 1907 1st quarter John CRYAN in Carrick on Shannon no 3.43

So it looks as though he died about Christmas time and was registered

justafter the New Year.

If you could get the certificate from the National Registry it should

givehis age , his address, cause of death and who registered the death,

usuallya family member present at the time, and ,quite helpfully, where he was

whenhe died,perhaps in hospital or at home or elsewhere. You will need the

number which I think means volume 3 page 43 if you go to the National

Registry. (I you go/write to the local registrar it is not usually

needed.)If you already have this information, just ignore the above.

I do hope that this is helpful.Until again Eve

 

 Reply-to: "Family History" < >

 From: "Family History" < > | Block address

 Subject: Re: [CRYAN] CREAN Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 10:51:57 +0100

 Organization: Family Spackman To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Hi Linda,I hope that this is helpful.

Here are two possibilities who would be about 40 when your Catherine

wasborn.If you look in the films of the Irish BMD Register Indexes for years

aroundthis date you may find others registered in Castle Gregory who could be

ofone of these two families.

-----------------------------------------------------------------

CREAN, Patrick Birth

 Sex: Male

 Birth Date: 14 Dec 1869 Birthplace: Castle Gregory, Kerry, Ire

 Recorded in: Civil Registration for Ireland

 Father: John CREAN

 Mother: Catharine CURRANE

 Source: FHL Number 101199

----------------------------------------------------------------------------

CREAN, Patrick Birth

 Sex: Male

 Birth Date: 18 Mar 1868 Birthplace: Castlegregory, Kerry, Ire

 Recorded in: Civil Registration for Ireland

 Father: Michael CREAN

 Mother: Honoria ROHAN

 Source: FHL Number 101164

----------------------------------------------------------------------------

Eve

From: Fatarm@aol.com | Block address Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 11:09:33 EDT

 Subject: [CRYAN] Crogan/Croghan mid-18thc. reference To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

I found an 18th c. timeline on the web with reference to a

Crogan/Croghan trading post c. 1744-52 in Ohio. The main river running through

Cleveland, Ohio is the Cuyahoga river, and Cleveland is in the county of Cuyahoga.

 I'm not certain if there is a town today called "Cuyahoga" (pronounced

"kie-a-hoe-ga"). I thought the time period, nonetheless interesting.

The timeline is interesting in and of itself, for anyone interested in the

French and Indian wars of this time period in North America:

http://digitalhistory.org/timeline.htm or <A

HREF="http://digitalhistory.org/timeline.htm">Timeline of the 18th century</A>

Please also welcome four (4!) new subscribers this week and be on the

lookout for their introduction postings ....-Leslie

 

From: VaDonohue@aol.com | Block address Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 11:19:59 EDT

 Subject: [CRYAN] New To List-CRYAN Roll Call To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Hi, I am new to this list as of last night. I would like to share my connection to the CRYANs. If anyone should connect to this line, Iwould love to hear from you.

John CRYAN b. 1834, m. Julia NOLAN, d. 12-04-1900 in Toledo, OH.

Their daughter: Ellen A. CRYAN b, 1874 in Ida, MI, m. John T. DONOHUE,

d. 12-25-1953 in Cincinnati, OH.

Their son: Robert Francis DONOHUE b. 1899 in Toledo, OH, m. Georgia B.

BOYER in 1944 in Chicago, IL, d.1930 in Chicago, IL. They had 2 children.

Thanks,Marita

 

 From: Fatarm@aol.com | Block address Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 14:14:06 EDT

 Subject: [CRYAN] Cryan Family B&B in Nova Scotia website To:

 CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com Add Addresses

Found this B&B website for an Inn run by the Cryan Family:

http://www.valleyweb.com/victoriasinn/

or: <A HREF="http://www.innbook.com/victoriainn.html">VICTORIA'S

HISTORIC INN - Wolfville, NS - (Bed & Breakfast Country Inn)</A>

 

Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 09:31:45 -0700 (PDT) From: civics@geocities.com | Block address Subject: Welcome to Yahoo! GeoCities

Hi caoimhghin!Welcome to Yahoo! GeoCities.The URL (address) for your home page is:

 http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atlantis/5447/

or try this easy to remember shortcut:

 http://www.geocities.com/caoimhghin/

 

From: "Linda Carrier" <carrier@massed.net> | Block address Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 22:59:07 -0400 Subject: [CRYAN] Aunascaul To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Hey great news. Grandma's petition for naturalization came in the mail

today. She is listed as being from Ballytarmin Aunascaul, Ireland.

Anybodyworking on Crean's in this area?Happy Hunting!Linda Carrier

 

Reply-to: "Family History" < > From: "Family History" < > | Block address To: "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [CRYAN] Charles Cryan Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 09:20:14 +0100 Organization: Family SpackmanHi Caoimhghin,I went to the FHC at Myddleton Place in London to inquire about the

death ofCharles Cryan only to find that the indexes still have not come in . On

enquiry at the desk found that they are not due untilNovember/December, so

I gave a long appealing explanation and explained that it was such an

unusual name that it should not be difficult to find. Well, several

assistants became involved and they tried to telephone the office of

National Statistics, but could not get through. So I have to do that

anotherday......I will let you know the outcome.Otherwise it it wait until

Nov/Decand I will go then.

I had a look at your website with special interest as we have been

involvedwith building websites and have long debates on presentation.

Here in England we have to pay for every second of access to the

internet,unlike the USA where one does not pay for local calls. So I feel that I

cannot waste time on sites where either the writing is difficult to read

or thelayout is tiring on the eyes, or even the colours are inappropriate.

Thismeans short paragraphs, gaps in the typescript and headings which all

breakup the visual impact into manageable sections. This is not a criticism,

justa principle by which we work.

I was everso pleased to see that you do not have any fancy gimmicks and

thatyour links were grouped....what a waste of time scrolling up and down

iswhen all you want at any one time is not on the screan at the same

time.Well, good luck with all your projects, I hope that you have time for a

social life !!!!!!I will let you know what happens about Charles Cryan.

Until again Eve, sorry I wanted to write more but am in an awful hurry.

 

From:        Voltene@aol.com  | Block address   Date:        Sun, 26 Sep 1999 10:25:12 EDT

 Subject:        [CRYAN] Another Michael CRYAN in Lowell, MA     To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

 

Hello, Found another Michael Cryan and family in Lowell, MA. after 1860.

 Haven't been able to connect him to Martin and Michael Cryan, yet.

          According to his 1876 Naturalization, he was born in Co.

Sligo, Ireland  about 25 September  1826 and arrived in Boston, MA  about

twentieth of October 1859.    (have passenger arrival mainfest-arrived 28 Oct

1859)         One of his witnesses on the naturalization was  a Thomas

Cryan.  Haven't connected him yet.  There was a Thomas Cryan, fireman,  listed

in the 1879-1880 Lowell city directories.

       Michael Cryan  enlisted  10 Sept 1862  in  Co. D 25th Reg. ME.

        Date discharged 11 July 1863.

-----

1880 Federal Census, Lowell, MA  Roll 544,ED 449,

155 Market St.

 

Cryan,  Michael   age...52,  born...Ireland,  occ...variety store

            Mary   age...52,   born...Ireland,  occ...housekeeping

            Thomas    age...20,   born...England,   occ...carriage

painting

            Edward   age...17,   born...MA,   occ...apprentice card

clotting(???)

            Mary A   age...14,   born...MA,   occ...at school

 

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Lowell Daily Courier

Wed. 12 Apr. 1882

Fatal Railroad Accident

            Michael Cryan, who lived with his family at 155 Market

street,  was run over by a car  or cars on the Boston and Lowell road,  between

7:30 and 8 o'clock last evening, about 250 feet southerly of the switch

tower below the Chelmsford street bridge,  and received injuries of which he

died at  St. John's hospital less than two hours later.    His left arm was

crushed, his left leg was broken, and his skull was severely fractured.

   Mr. Cryan went to Boston Monday with his wife and sister-in-law, to

attend the funeral of his father.   His wife proposed to stop in Boston till

tonight, as her sister was to start from there today for the west. 

Mr. Michael Horan of Market street, who went to the funeral, saw Cryan at

five o'clock yesterday afternoon in Boston, and the two agreed to return

home by seven o'clock train from that place last evening.   When Mr. Horan got

to the depot in Boston he could not find Cryan, and thinks that he had already

boarded the train, which was a long one.   He thinks that as the train

neared the Middlesex street depot, Cryan got out upon the platform and fell

under the cars.   The body was first seen by a brakeman, named Goodhue,  a

short time after the accident occurred.  Cryan was 55 years of age and kept a

variety store at 155 Market street.  He was a soldier in the 26th

Massachusetts regiment during the war.   Deceased was a temperate man,

and was highly esteemed by many acquaintances.  He leave a widow, two sons

and a daughter.

-----

       According to his death record, his parents were Patrick and Ann.

I looked for the death record of Patrick Cryan in Boston.  Found none.

Only name I found that might be the right one was  a

     Patrick CRANE , widower,    died 9 April 1882 in Boston.,

age...92, 

born...Ireland,   parents...Edward and Ann.

------------

    When I originally came across this Michael,  I thought he

might be related somehow to Roger Cryan and Judy Bruce's    Martin and Michael

Cryan  (also the same Cryan family I am researching)  because he owned a

variety store on Market street, Lowell.    Around 1885, listed in the Lowell

city directories was a Cryan Bros.(Martin and Michael),  variety store at

189 Market St.    But I haven't made the connection.

Anyone with Lowell Cryan families recognize this Cryan?Karen MurphyNashua, NH

 

From:        Fatarm@aol.com  | Block address   Date:        Mon, 27 Sep 1999 13:26:20 EDT

 Subject:        [CRYAN] Michael Cryan, age 20? in 1812 record     To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

 

Pulled this off Ancestry.com for those of you interested in finding the

18th c. Cryans:

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

Cryan Michl.   Sailor Lt. W. 1812

(Ervis) is recorded in this entry; it is likely the former place of

residence. The number 20 is also recorded; it it possible that this is

his age. List of settlers and servants engaged for the Hudson's Bay Company

and Lord Selkirk, 1812. Transcribed from (film of) original documents held

in the collection of the National Archives of Canada [Ottawa]: Thomas Douglas,

5th Earl of Selkirk, MG 19 E1, vol. 2, page 560, reel C-1

Anyone claim him for sure?  Let us know .... Leslie

 

    Reply-to:             "Family History" < >       From:             "Family History" < >  | Block address       Date:             Wed, 29 Sep 1999 13:27:44 +0100

 Organization:             Family Spackman     Subject:             [CRYAN] Michael Cryan at Lowell

I could be that you have two different Michaels here - Michael born

about 25Sept 1826 who went into the 25 th  could well be the Michael killed ion

therailroad aged 55 in 1882 ie born between 12 April 1826 and 12 April

1827(newspaper report), which could be the son of Patrick Cryan and Anne

Cawleyof Riversown, Co Sligo who have children at about that time Patrick in

1812and Alice 1819.

However the census 1880 gives Michael aged 52 ie born  1828-9

I wonder if the 1880 census gives Michael Cryan as living at 155 Market

Street similarly in the newspaper report of 1882, yet in 1885 the city

directory gives 189 Market Street whether there are other possibilities

which could be checked.

1      They could have moved from one building to another between 1882

and1885 - perhaps there are records of changes of tenancy etc

2      However I think that it is more possible that the street was

renumbered as the town grew and plots and gardens were in-filled .

Peoplehave found records of this here in England so perhaps Lowell has some.

Theremay be old maps with ther numbers on them in the archives or library .

I will keep looking - - - - - somewhere I have a record of a Michael

Cryanwith a crowd of daughters in your area but not Lowell.Godd luck Eve

 

From:        "Kathleen Grone" <kmgrone@hotmail.com>  | Block address     To:        caoimhghin@yahoo.com Subject:        Re: Fwd: [CRYAN] new website   Date:        Wed, 29 Sep 1999 06:44:08 PDT

Greetings,My name is Kathleen O'Donnell-Grone I really enjoyed your web site. You

have a lot of great information. I am searching for the family listed below.

Isabelle Creen was my grandmother. Rufus is thought to have been half

German although I can find nothing to substantiate this. Creen is a very Irish

name and he married Irish. On my O'Donnell side we go to County Donegal but

also have not gone much farther. My Family came over in the "coffin" ships

during the famine and 4 out of 5 children died. An aunt survived as did my

great-great grandparents and my great grandfather was born in NY. Other

names I am also researching are Mary Dineen born about 1840 in Limerick

who was married to my great-great grandfather James O'Donnell. I have a

picture of her. Mary Harrigan married to my great grandfather James J.

O'Donnell may have been born in Ireland or NY. Lester A. O'Donnell my grandfather

married Isabelle Creen. She was a beauty!

 

 

Descendants of Rufus Joseph Creen Jr.

 

        1       Rufus Joseph Creen b: Abt. 1880         d: Abt. 1940 New York

.               +Charlotte "Lottie" KERNER      b: November 27, 1886 Brooklyn, New York

d:

March 13, 1959 New York

...     2       Jessica CREEN

...     2       Joseph CREEN

...     2       Isabelle CREEN  b: October 5, 1905 Brooklyn, New York   d: October

1,

1938 Catskills, New York

.......         +Lester Aloyisius O'DONNELL     b: August 30, 1908 Brooklyn, New

York    d: March 2, 1992 Yonkers, New York

...     2       Rufus Joseph CREEN, Jr. b: December 15, 1908 New York   d:

January 1985 Riverhead, New York

 

From:        Fatarm@aol.com  | Block address   Date:        Wed, 29 Sep 1999 13:02:06 EDT

 Subject:        [CRYAN] Fwd: Croghan     To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

 

Hi:My wife is searching for ancestors in Roscommon County Ireland. We have

visited there and will return in June 2000 with other family members.

Her mother's surname was Croughan. Her grandfather was Ulysess Samuel

Alonzo Croughan (USA Croughan- born 8/14/1877), son of Michael Crougan

(born County Roscommon, Ireland-2/19/1840), married to Elizabeth

Laughlin (born 3/26/48). Michael was the son of James Croughan (born

County Roscommon, Ireland- 1818) and Elenor Kelly (born Palm Sunday,

1820)

The surname Croughan is listed as Croghan in the Fourmilehouse Parish

(formerly known as Kilbride Parish) Records in Roscommon County. From

the County Roscommon Heritage and Genealogy Center, we have found that

James and Elenor Croughan (Croghan) had 5 children:

Mary-baptised 3/10/1839

Michael-baptised 2/11/1841

Patrick-baptised 10/1/43

John-baptised 3/5/1846

Peter-baptised 6/26/1848

We would be interested to know if there are any descendants of Mary,

Patrick, John or Peter alive. As I noted my wife is the great

grand-daughter of Michael Crougan and Elizabeth Lauglin and thus the

great-great-grand-daughter of James Croughan and Elenor Kelly.Thanks for any info

Dan (McCormick) Sitarz.

 

Reply-to:         "Grahame Rendell" <rendell@eircom.net>    From:         "Grahame Rendell" <rendell@eircom.net>  | Block address      To:         <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>

  Subject:         County Roscommon Family History Society   Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 20:44:05 +0100

 

Hi,Thanks for your note, we have changed address and our new addresses are

asbelow, We are sorry that you have had problems contacting us and wehopethat you will visit our new web site, on which we give furtherinformationon the society and Roscommon families.

If you require any further help please contact me direct on the e-mailbelowand i will try to assist you,

hope this is of some help,Grahame Rendell.Researcher,County Roscommon Family History Society

rendell@eircom.net

Web site :  http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/7030/

 

   From:        "Roger Cryan" <cryan@avana.net>  | Block address   Date:        Wed, 29 Sep 1999 21:01:38 -0400 Subject:        [CRYAN] Re: Mike Cryans in Lowell     To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

The Michael Cryan who was in business with his brother Martin (my

great-grandfather) had no uncle named Michael Cryan, according to the

likely family sent me by Eve some time ago. Below is that line again; sometimes we need to see this stuff a fewtimesbefore it fits.        Roger

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From: Roger Cryan and Regina Pana-Cryan <cryan@avana.net>To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Subject: [CRYAN-L] Recycling old mail - stirring up the pot?Date: Monday, March 22, 1999 10:24 PM

I was looking over my older messages, and as I spent some time with

thisgem, I wasn't sure that I ever pointed out that I've got the marriage

record for James Cryan and Honor Beirne.  They don't show up in the

Boylerecords because they were married in the (mostly) Sligo parish of

Kilfreeand Killaragt on February 8, 1853.  Their witnesses were one Patrick

Cryanand one Wilhelmina Gainly.

Also, I saw that Karen didn't have the names and dates for all of James

andHonor's children.  I'll also add some data to what Eve sent me.

SO HERE IS THE AUGMENTED VERSION OF THE OLD FAMILY TREE!

> codes - c = christening or baptism>            IGI = International Genealogical Index, available in all

public> libraries(of a reasonable size) in England presumably also in the USA

>            index = the reference no given to all civil registrations,

andis> required if you wish to send to the "National Registry" in Dublin for

the> certificate.> James CRYAN - Died before 1901> Honor BEIRNE - The 1901 Census said she spoke Irish and English, herchildren only Englishmarried Feb 8, 1853 at Kilfree & Killaragt parish (which might havegoneover the county line???).  She claimed to be 60 in the 1901 census -

thatwould have made her 13 when she was married; but this family alwaysliedlike thieves about their age, (right down to the most recently deceasedgeneration, may they rest in peace).  Also, she shows as born in

Roscommonin the same Census.

> children

> Michael c 5 Nov 1854 Boyle RC - Came to America - Lowell, then Rhode

Island? Maybe Walter Cryan's grandfather? My grandfather always said

WalterCryan (a long-time Providence newscaster) looked like his family.

> Bridgit c 24 Feb 1856 Boyle RC - Mrs. Delia McKinney (thanks, Karen)

> Anne c 13 Dec1857  Boyle RC - prob. married a man named Welsh or

Walshand moved to Ulster

> James c 2 Oct 1859 Boyle RC - Claimed to be 30 in 1901.  Married Ann

Cryan from Brougher Ballinafad; no kids - left farm to her nephew James

Cryan, whose widow still lives in the house.

> Martin c 29 Sept 1861 Boyle RC - My great granddad - came to Lowell,

diedduring the flood in 1938.

> Hanoria c 22 Nov 1863 Boyle RC - I didn't know about this one.

> John  17 Aug 1865 IGI prob birth(index 14.98) - Claimed to be 20 in

1901!!!  Never married, died an old man in Ireland; Joe Cryan, Sr.,

said herode his horse into town (Boyle) every Saturday night to dance.

>           no John death in the national registers

> John 30 Aug 1865 IGI probably christening of the same John

> Mary Jane birth 2 Jan 1870 - Came to Lowell, took my Grandpa to the

amusement park, went back to Ballinanulta and died an old maid.

Claimed tobe 18!!!???!!! in 1901.

>

> The most probable parents for James CRYAN are

> Michael CRYAN and Bridgit FURY(various spellings)

> The names fit those of James first two children

> children

> Anne c 20 Nov 1816 Boyle RC

> Mary c 1 April 1819 Boyle RC

> Winifred c 24 Oct 1820 Boyle RC

> Bridget c 9 Oct 1822 Boyle RC

> James c 2 July 1824 Boyle RC ***** your James ????

> Margaret c 5 April 1826 Boyle RC

> John c   March 1830 (no date given)

> > possibly Honor Beirne's parents are James and Anne ?

> I HAD ASKED ABOUT THE RORKES, WHO WERE THE NEIGHBORS OF THE CRYANS IN

BALLINANULTAGH, AND WHO, I WAS TOLD, CAME THERE TOGETHER FROM SLIGO.

OF COURSE, MY GRANDFATHER SAID THAT THE FAMILY HAD BEEN ON THE SAME

PLOTFOR 1200 YEARS, SO WE HAVE A CONTRADICTION IN THE SOURCES - WHAT A SURPRISE!

 

From:        Voltene@aol.com  | Block address   Date:        Wed, 29 Sep 1999 21:38:31 EDT

 Subject:        Re: [CRYAN] Michael Cryan at Lowell     To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

In a message dated 99-09-29 08:33:27 EDT, FamSpack  writes:

 Hi, I could be that you have two different Michaels here - Michael born

about 25 Sept 1826 who went into the 25 th  could well be the Michael killed

ion the railroad aged 55 in 1882 ie born between 12 April 1826 and 12 April

1827 (newspaper report), which could be the son of Patrick Cryan and Anne

Cawley of Riversown, Co Sligo who have children at about that time Patrick in

1812 and Alice 1819.

  However the census 1880 gives Michael aged 52 ie born  1828-9

  I wonder if the 1880 census gives Michael Cryan as living at 155

Market Street similarly in the newspaper report of 1882, yet in 1885 the city

 directory gives 189 Market Street whether there are other

possibilities>> which could be checked.

Hello,

Thank you for your response to my query.

The 1880 Michael Cryan is the same Michael who died in 1882.

Address in the 1880 Census was   155 Market St.

I really don't trust date of births  unless I have seen the actual

birth record.The newspaper article lists Michael's age as 55. 

Another newspaper lists the age as  "about 60".   Death record lists age as 53 years old.

Census   says  52.Which one do you go by?

I also have the "Special Schedule of the Surviving Soldiers, Sailors

and Marines  and Widows", of  the 1890  Census  which lists   "Mary, widow

of Michael Cryan."

It is probably just a co-incidence that  the    Cryan Bros,  Michael

and Martin,  own a store on the same street, 189 Market,     2-3 years

after the 1882 death of Michael Cryan, of  155 Market St.

Karen MurphyNashua, NH

 

   From:        "Joan Ogg" <joanogg@compuserve.com>  | Block address     To:        <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> Subject:        You Web Page   Date:        Sun, 3 Oct 1999 16:42:57 -0400

Dear Kevin,Sorry I haven't been able to get to your page until now--been away!

Nicejob!  Thanks for all the other links--very helpful.  I just began

researching all the Cryan's who lived in Lowell, Massachusetts.

Corresponded with several other "Cryan" researchers who also are

descendentsof Lowell Cryan's.  My great grandmother, Jane Carroll Donovan,

daughter ofCormac and Brigid (Cryan) Carroll, lived in Lowell when she emigrated

fromRoscommon.  So, my guess is she came over to stay with her mother's

familyin Lowell.Keep up the wonderful page and take care.Regards, Joan

 

 

   From:        Fatarm@aol.com  | Block address   Date:        Thu, 14 Oct 1999 12:56:19 EDT

 Subject:        [CRYAN] Cryan artist (contemporary)     To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Here's the website:

 <A HREF="http://home.att.net/~lcryan/">Cryan Studio Artists</A>  or

http://home.att.net/~lcryan/     Happy surfing!  -Leslie

 

   From:        Fatarm@aol.com  | Block address   Date:        Thu, 14 Oct 1999 13:16:37 EDT

 Subject:        [CRYAN] Beauty in the family     To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

I hope I'm not driving you all crazy, but I'm having so much fun with

my new computer -- I can surf!!!  Wee-doggie!  -Leslie

Here's another fun site:  check out the name of 1981 -- Yup, a Cryan.

 <A HREF="http://missamerica.org/formcont/ri.html">The Miss America

Organization: Former Miss America Contestants</A>

or http://missamerica.org/formcont/ri.html

 

   From:        Jill Devito <devito@uta.edu>  | Block address

 Subject:        RE: [CRYAN] Boston Cryan marriage into Ultican family

   Date:        Thu, 14 Oct 1999 12:47:47 -0500     To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Ultican/Cryan -- that's my line!

But I have Margaret Ultican b. 1841 as married to a Peter Garvin on Sep

2,1869, in St. John, New Brunswick, Canada.  (I believe that information

camefrom Kathy Reimer, an Ultican descendent I ran into on the web).

Here is my Cryan-Ultican connection:

According to my information (this part is documented by my

Grandfather'scopy of a marriage certificate), Margaret Ultican's sister Catherine E.

Ultican married Francis O'Reilly, and their daughter Anna married John

Philip Cryan (1874-1939) of Lowell, MA.  Anna and John were my

grandfather'sparents.I am very intrigued by the connection of Margaret to a Cryan...

Let me know if you find out any more!Thanks,Jill

 

 

   From:        Fatarm@aol.com  | Block address   Date:        Tue, 19 Oct 1999 16:45:07 EDT

 Subject:        [CRYAN] New subscriber - Cryan - introduction     To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Hello all,

My G-GF was Thomas Niland , b. around 1867, the son of Peter Niland and

Bridget Cryan of Ballymote, Sligo, Ireland.  I am searching for

information on Bridget and her family.  Thomas' siblings ( that I know of)  were

Kate, Beesy, Patrick and John.  I'll answer all emails, if this rings a bell

with anyone.Thanks,Peter

 

From:        Fatarm@aol.com  | Block address   Date:        Wed, 20 Oct 1999 17:33:55 EDT

 Subject:        [CRYAN] Crehan - Introductory message from new subscriber     To:

        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Hi,My maiden name was Crehan.My father's name was Charles Anthony.(born

July 17, 1898)His father was Edward. He also had a brother Named Edward.We lived in

the Albany, NY area.I have found that they came from(originally) Cork Co. Ireland. Any

information will be greatly appreciated.ThanksBarbara

 

   From:        Fatarm@aol.com  | Block address   Date:        Thu, 21 Oct 1999 13:28:53 EDT

 Subject:        [CRYAN] The Worshipful Company of Fruiterers     To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Now it seems as though I'm seeing Cryans, Creaghans and MacCroghans

everywhere -- this excerpt came from an article in today's Washington

Post   (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/WPlate/1999-10/21/023l-102199-idx.html

or  <A HREF="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/WPlate/1999-10/21/023l-102199-idx.h

tml">Bearing Gifts</A> ) -- this site may only contain this article for

a day or two, so here is the excerpt highlighting The Master of the

Worshipful Company of Fruiterers, Donald Cryan:

    The ancient British society of fruit traders and growers arrived

earlier this month at Mount Vernon [home of America's first president, George

Washington] to plant heirloom varieties of fruit trees in a ceremony

worthy of a Gilbert & Sullivan opera.  First, a black-robed clerk announced

the company, and the Master, Donald Cryan, and two fo his aides appeared in

black velvet caps and green robes, adorned with badges of office and a

surfeit of brown fur. ....    Founded in the early 1400s, the company still sends forth its

officers to historic gardens like a band of knights errant, finding and planting

obscure and coveted varieties of fruit trees....

    The fruiteres do about four ceremonial tree plantings a year,

regaining their energy with the occasional feast in some of London's most

beautiful banqueting halls.

    Behind the pantomime, however, is serious work.  Established to

regulate fruit trading in the City, London's mercantile district, the company's

members are leading specialists int he global marketplace of fuit

breeding, gorwing and trading. ....

    Cryan, meanwhile, was on his next quest.  Less than a wekk after

the Mount Vernon ceremony, he was back inthe City of London presenting 12

bushels of fruit to the Lord Mayor.  The Master has been doing this annually

since 1577, to settle a dispute over tolls.

- article by Adrian Higgins

Interesting, huh?  Hope you all (except those down under, I suppose),

are enjoying as beautiful a fall day as we are here ... Leslie

 

 

From:        "Lauren Cryan" <lcryan@worldnet.att.net>  | Block address     To:        "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> Subject:        Cryans   Date:        Mon, 1 Nov 1999 20:35:10 -0500

 

Hi KevinWe enjoyed getting your e-mail and looking at your web site. We have not done any genealogical research on theCryan family and we really know very little about my husband's  Irish roots.

I'd be interested in seeing some of your artwork. What a varied and interesting background you have.

You can see more of our work at our new web site:

www.cryanstudio.com   Lauren Cryan

 

From:        "noreen o' sullivan" <norosul@hotmail.com>  | Block address     To:

        caoimhghin@yahoo.com Subject:        Re: foto   Date:        Thu, 04 Nov 1999 12:23:10 GMT

 

>From: Caoimhghin O Croidheain <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>

>To: "noreen o'" sullivan <norosul@hotmail.com>

>Subject: foto>Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 04:04:11 -0700 (PDT)

>>Dear Noreen

>Thanks for the foto. I was wonder if you could tell me

>a couple of things about the foto?

>Was the wireless school in Cahersiveeen? Was the

>Wireless school opposite the hospital in the foto? Is

>the original foto in the library?

>Thanks again for your help. It has cleared up a least

>one family mystery!!

>Kevin

>>dear caoimhghin

the wireless school was in the old hospital itself .this is in back

ground of your picture.i presume this was before it was used as a hospital.i

do not have the original,i got the copy from michael o shea.

if you are ever here he would be delighted to talk to you.

regards,noreen

Date:        Sat, 6 Nov 1999 11:58:01 -0800 (PST)   From:        Caoimhghin O Croidheain <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>  | Block address Subject:        [CRYAN] updated site

     To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Hi!I have updated my site with the "Collected Emails

Parts 1-6" for newcomers to the Cryan-List. They

contain 95% of all emails posted since its inception!!

In my printed format they amount to 340 pages of text

(in 10pt size)

My website address (with refs to Irish language,

culture and politics, and family history):

      http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atlantis/5447/

or try this easy to remember shortcut:

      http://www.geocities.com/caoimhghin/

Regards, Caoimhghin

 

   From:        RoCryan@aol.com  | Block address   Date:        Sat, 6 Nov 1999 19:29:08 EST

 Subject:        Hello Kevin     To:        caoimhghin@yahoo.com

I've just been visiting your web page.  I'm in awe of your

organizational skills  I did sign the guest book and recognized the bombastic guest #4

as my brother James.   Yes he always talks that way!  Ah well, I'm sure he's

less irritating   in general than he is to his sister.  Be well,  Rosalie

 

From:        Fatarm@aol.com  | Block address   Date:        Wed, 10 Nov 1999 17:49:55 EST

 Subject:        [CRYAN] Forwarded message bounced -- now you can read it here

     To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

> Hi Kevin,    > We enjoyed getting your e-mail and looking at your web site. We

have not =    > done any genealogical research on the Cryan family and we really

know =    > very little about my husband's  Irish roots.

    > I'd be interested in seeing some of your artwork. What a varied

and =    > interesting background you have.

    > You can see more of our work at our new web site:    > www.cryanstudio.com

    > Lauren Cryan

Kmcrehan@aol.com        by imo21.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v23.6.) id ePTa029634 (4560)

         for <CRYAN-L-request@rootsweb.com>; Mon, 25 Oct 1999 13:03:19 -0400

Looking for info on my family. Great great grandfather john crehan.

Born in Galway in 1859. Came to USA with 1st cousin bernard Crehan, Moved to

Indianapolis, Indiana. Married Mary McGrath (McGraw) and had 4

children, Helen, Owen, Nell, John (Jack).

I remember family speak of a place called roscommon and talk of a

Michael and owen and Bernard Crehan who seemed to know of my GGgrandfather. Any

help appreciated.

 

From:        Fatarm@aol.com  | Block address   Date:        Wed, 10 Nov 1999 18:01:26 EST

 Subject:        Re: [CRYAN] updated site     To:        caoimhghin@yahoo.com

Wow!  What a project!  I look forward to checking it out....

BTW, since we're somewhat of email buddies, I want to explain that my

illness is of the maternity kind and should only last about another month or

so.  I tend to have it bad, but then there's this wonderful baby at the end of

it all making up for all the unpleasantness.  If I need help, can I call

on you to assist with keeping the list going inthe meantime?

A little green (and not because of my Irish blood or jealousy) but

thrilled to see what you've done with your website, Leslie

 

Date:        Sat, 13 Nov 1999 04:43:34 -0800 (PST)   From:        Caoimhghin O Croidheain <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>  | Block address Subject:        [CRYAN] search

     To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

hiIf you are researching a name in the cryan emails

collected on my site download the files and use

Command F (for find and replace) and type in name

variation you are looking for.

caoimhghin

 

   Date:        Sat, 13 Nov 1999 04:51:15 -0800 (PST)   From:        Caoimhghin O Croidheain <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>  | Block address Subject:        [CRYAN] convicts

     To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Hi EveI went into the Nat Archives and searched the two refs

you gave me The first tr.8,p.142 is the ref - no other

info. The second crf1850misc.2(2) had the following info:

Male convicts, Kilmainham Govt. Prison for removal to

Mountjoy.County - Sligo; Name - John Cryan; When convicted - 20

June; Crime - Burglary; Sentence - 7 Years; If before

convicted - Never; Character and Observations, Motives

of crime, and whether of an aggravated nature - Good.

 Hope all is well  Caoimhghin

 

 

   From:        RoCryan@aol.com  | Block address   Date:        Sat, 13 Nov 1999 08:31:03 EST

 Subject:        Re: hi!     To:        caoimhghin@yahoo.com

Kevin, Well I've been on the Cryan-L since last February, but after an

initial spurt of activity (It was I who sent the story that my sister

Kathleen Marie Cryan wrote based on letters from Anna Gertrude O'Reilly

Cryan to her eldest son - James Ultican Cryan, Sr., in the late twenties.)

I've let others do the research.  Jim didn't go to the Family Reunion but my son

and I did along with 22 other relatives.  The main base of operations there

is my Uncle Paul Cryan. Drumdoo, Mohill, Leitrim.  He has done a lot of

research, and I know his kids are planning to give him a PC.  I'll let you know

as soon as I find him on-line.  Be Well,  Rosalie

 

Date:        Tue, 16 Nov 1999 19:36:16 -0600 (CST)  From:        Kathleen A Craine <K-Craine@neiu.edu>  | Block address Subject:        [CRYAN] Re: CRYAN-D Digest V99 #30

     To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Found this listing in the Civil War Research Database, which is now

freeuntil Nov 17 at ancestry.com.  Can anyone claim this Crehan?

 

 William H Crehan

 Claimed Residence in Chicago   

  Enlist Date   16 February 1865

  Enlist Place

  Enlist Rank    Priv

 

 Served Illinois 

 Enlisted I Co. 156th Inf Reg. IL Mustered Out on 19 May 1865       

 Source: Illinois: Roster of Officers and Enlisted Men

 Abbreviation: ILRoster

 Published by on 1900

 

Kathleen Craine  Chicago, IL

 

 

From:       Fatarm@aol.com  | Block address  Date:        Fri, 19 Nov 1999 15:00:23 EST

 Subject:        [CRYAN] Boston, MA Cryans from Mayo     To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

In a message dated 11/14/99 4:03:06 PM Eastern Standard Time,

Maurskel@aol.com writes:

Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 13:02:52 -0800 (PST)

X-From_: Maurskel@aol.com  Sun Nov 14 13:02:51 1999

To: CRYAN-L-request@rootsweb.com

My great grandmother was Ellen Cryan, born in Swinford, Mayo, Ireland.

She lived in Boston, Mass. and died at the age of 77 (I'm not sure of the

year).  She was married to Robert Rafferty (American born) who died in 1905 at

the age of 34.  They had eight children...How can I find out more abouther?

 

From:        Kmcrehan@aol.com  | Block address   Date:        Fri, 19 Nov 1999 10:24:12 EST

 Subject:        Crehan     To: caoimhghin@yahoo.com

Hello Caoimhghin, I am researching my family and am hung up at my great

grandfather. I can't seem to go back any further and all my relatives

knownothing. You mentioned you have lists of baptism, marriage, etc and

wondered if you might be able to help?

My great grandfather was John Crehan, born in 1859 in or near Woodbrook

Newbridge Ballinasloe Co. Galway. He had a brother Thomas and a sister

Mary. John came to New York around the time of the potato famine with his

first cousin Bernard Crehan. John went on to Indianapolis Indiana and Bernard

on to Baltimore Maryland. Mary Crehan marries a man named Thomas Mannion and

lived in Killisolin about 6 miles from Woodbrook Newbridge. Thomas Crehan

came to Indiana after John, but it was never clear if he had married in Ireland

before he left. He was known to be a boxer.

2 of my uncles went to Ireland in 1985 and went to Woodbrook Newbridge

and met a man named Mark Crehan . Mark had an uncle named Michael Crehan

who knew much of a John Crehan who came to Indianapolis with a cousin named

Bernard. This Michael was 87 at the time and sure now to be deceased, but he new

all about John Crehans children. There must be a connection, but

unfortunately my uncles never got all the answers. Michael Crehan said he had 2 brothers

named Owen and Bernard, but it was not clear if this brother Bernard was the

cousin that came over to the states with my G Grand father John Crehan.

This is all I know. I would like to find out who John's parents were,

his grandparents, etc... Uncles, cousins and how the names Mark, Michael,

Owen and Bernard Crehan fit into my family tree if at all. Can you help?

Thank You, Kerry Crehan McCauley

 

 

   From:       Fatarm@aol.com  | Block address   Date:        Fri, 19 Nov 1999 15:28:46 EST

 Subject:        [CRYAN] Please welcome 5 new subscribers     To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

 

Yes, that's right!  In two weeks we've jumped up to 70 (or thereabouts)

subscribers.  Please welcome the newbies and look for their upcoming

introductions.  I believe two are Cryan and two are Cregan researchers.

==== CRYAN Mailing List ====

Visit these subscribers' websites:

http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cregan/index.htm

http://www.geocities.com/caoimhghin/

 

 Reply-to:         <ariley@ltp.org>    From:         "A. Riley" <ariley@ltp.org>  | Block address

    Date:         Fri, 19 Nov 1999 14:40:52 -0600  Subject:         [CRYAN] Introduction

Dear Cryan-L friends (and relatives!) --

I'm really looking forward to learning more about our heritage and

lineagewith this list. I'm one of the five newbies, and here's what I've

learned sofar.

My Crain forebears came to America from County Sligo, Ireland, in 1848

orthereabouts. John Crain died of sunstroke in 1848, leaving his widow,

Matilda McDonough Crain (Atty for short), and ten children. Atty,

obviouslya woman of character, took the ten kids and began a new life in the

States.

We have a census listing of Atty and the kids in 1850 in Leominster,

Massachusetts, near Boston -- but the name was spelled Crane there.

I'veheard she ran a boarding house there. One of the sons, Patrick, born

1834,headed west about 1853 and settled in the little village of El Dorado,

nearFond du Lac, Wisconsin, where he prospered. His brother Mark may have

comewith him, and he prospered too. I've seen Mark listed as a county

councilmanin 1879.

In any case, soon enough, Atty joined them in Wisconsin, perhaps

bringingsome of the other siblings, and there she stayed. Pat married Bridget

Murray, and one of their kids was Timothy Michael, who eventually

became mygrandfather.

We'd like to find out more about John's family in Ireland. We have the

nameof a townland, Drumraine, in County Sligo -- but there are two

Drumraines,one near Ballymote and one near Riverstown, and that's as far as we've

gotten with that.

Thanks. Any information about the Irish Crains, Cranes, etc., will be

gratefully received!

A. Riley   ariley@ltp.org

 

   Date:        Sat, 20 Nov 1999 04:00:32 -0800 (PST)   From:        Caoimhghin O Croidheain <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>  | Block address Subject:        [CRYAN] Re: Crehan

hi  its very possible that John is on a parish record as

1859 is late enough - but too early for civil records

(1864)Have you seen John Grehan's "Tracing Your Irish

Ancestors"? On my web page there is the Mormon list of

cryan and variants for births and most emails from the

cryan-l ... try copying the lists into a Word document

and doing a search(ctrl f)  for a birth and any crehan

emails. You could also write to the local heritage

centre in Ireland Here are some sites:

genealogy

http://www.niceone.com/families.htm

Irish Family History Foundation

http://www.irishroots.net/

http://www.irishroots.net/Galway.htm

The West Galway Family History Society provides a Full

Service for genealogical enquirers for the

     western half of County Galway.

http://www.irishroots.net/WtGalway.htm

     The East Galway Family History Society provides a

Full Service for genealogical enquirers for the

     eastern half of County Galway from their centre

at Woodford.

http://www.irishroots.net/EtGalway.htm

my site is geocities.com/caoimhghin/

regards caoimhghinalso there are very helpful people on the Cryan-L

 

--- Kmcrehan@aol.com wrote:

> Hello Caoimhghin, I am researching my family and am

> hung up at my great > grandfather. I can't seem to go back any further and

> all my relatives know > nothing. You mentioned you have lists of baptism,

> marriage, etc and wondered > if you might be able to help?

> > My great grandfather was John Crehan, born in 1859

> in or near Woodbrook > Newbridge Ballinasloe Co. Galway. He had a brother

> Thomas and a sister Mary. > John came to New York around the time of the potato

> famine with his first > cousin Bernard Crehan. John went on to Indianapolis

> Indiana and Bernard on to > Baltimore Maryland. Mary Crehan marries a man named

> Thomas Mannion and lived > in Killisolin about 6 miles from Woodbrook

> Newbridge. Thomas Crehan came to > Indiana after John, but it was never clear if he had

> married in Ireland > before he left. He was known to be a boxer.

> > 2 of my uncles went to Ireland in 1985 and went to

> Woodbrook Newbridge and > met a man named Mark Crehan . Mark had an uncle

> named Michael Crehan who knew > much of a John Crehan who came to Indianapolis with

> a cousin named Bernard. > This Michael was 87 at the time and sure now to be

> deceased, but he new all > about John Crehans children. There must be a

> connection, but unfortunately my > uncles never got all the answers. Michael Crehan

> said he had 2 brothers named > Owen and Bernard, but it was not clear if this

> brother Bernard was the cousin > that came over to the states with my G Grand father

> John Crehan.>

> This is all I know. I would like to find out who

> John's parents were, his > grandparents, etc... Uncles, cousins and how the

> names Mark, Michael, Owen > and Bernard Crehan fit into my family tree if at

> all. Can you help? > Thank You, Kerry Crehan McCauley

>

 

   Date:        Sat, 20 Nov 1999 04:04:00 -0800 (PST)   From:        Caoimhghin O Croidheain <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>  | Block addressSubject:        [CRYAN] plea

hi Check this out - maybe some one can help?!?!?

http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/7030/geobook.html

(This page was opened on 26th september 1999 for the

exchange of information about Roscommon Families and

local history)

John (Jake) Sheerin - 10/05/99 03:13:37

My Email:jsheerin@erols.com

Family name: SHEERIN

area of research: SHEERIB/BRENNAN

Comments:

both my Father's parents were born in the Boyle areas

around the 1870's. his father's parents names were

Jeremiah Sheerinand Joanna McDermott. His mother's parents were James

Brennan and Mary Cryan. I can't confirm who the

Grandparentswere of any of the families.. I need help there

regards caoimhghin

 

==== CRYAN Mailing List ====

Surnames being rsrchd: Croidheain, Craigen/Creighan, Crawn/Craun,

Crane, Crean, Craen, Creen-e, Cre(a)g(h)an, Cre(a)han, Cro(u)ghan,

Crain-e, MacCroghan/McCrohan, Crowen, and Cryan-s.

 

   From:        Fatarm@aol.com  | Block address   Date:        Sat, 20 Nov 1999 16:17:26 EST

 Subject:        Re: [CRYAN]     To:        caoimhghin@yahoo.com

 

May I add your website address to my standard "welcome to Cryan mailing

list" email?  I think a lot of people just joining on would enjoy being able

to easily read old messages.  We seem to be in a flurry of subscriptions

suddenly, which is hopeful.Take care, Leslie

 

 

   From:        Maurskel@aol.com  | Block address   Date:        Sat, 20 Nov 1999 23:30:03 EST

 Subject:        [CRYAN] Cryan     To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Hi All..I'm a newbie to all this..but the death of my grandmother on November

1st at 104+ motivated to redouble my efforts to research my family's roots.

My grandmother, Ellen Margaret Rafferty McLaughlin was born in Boston on

November 1, 1895.  Her mother was Ellen Cryan Rafferty (born in

Swinford, Co. Mayo, Ireland) and her father was Robert Rafferty (born in Boston).

I'm pursuing both the Cryan and McLaughlin sides, but for purposes of this

list..Cryan is my priority.  I have the word out to my 28 first

cousins, some of whom have fragments of info, and my aunts and uncles (Ellen had 8

children..6 of whom are still alive...28 grandchildren, 27 great

grandchildren, and 1 great-great grandchild). 

Nice meeting you all!Maureen Skelton 

 

    Date:         Sun, 21 Nov 1999 06:13:04 -0800    From:         jacobl@fuse.net  | Block address

 Reply-to:         jacobl@fuse.net      To:         caoimhghin@yahoo.com, jacobl@fuse.net

  Subject:         Addition to Celtic Culture Webring

Your site has just been added to the webring:

      Ring: Celtic Culture Webring (celtring)

   Site ID: 73

     Title: caoimhghin o croidheain

 

 

       URL: http://geocities.com/caoimhghin/

    E-mail: caoimhghin@yahoo.com

  Added by: Ciara (ringmaster)

To edit your site information, enter your Site ID and password at the

URLhttp://www.webring.org/cgi-bin/webring?ring=celtring;edit

Celtic Culture Webring

http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Cathedral/5413/CCW/webring.html

Email: jacobl@fuse.net

 

From:        "Michael Tobin" <tobinmi@hotmail.com>  | Block address

     To:        caoimhghin@yahoo.com, CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com, jsheerin@erols.com

 Subject:        Re: [CRYAN] plea  Date:        Sun, 21 Nov 1999 15:28:51 PST

A posting on the Leitrim-Roscommon bulletin board (which Lyle had

posted to the CRYAN-L list previously) includes the following reference to a

family in the Boyle area:

  3. Mary Ann CRYAN (1853)

  ? sp. James BRENNAN (1853)

It sounds like the dates are approximately right for the people

referred to below.

The URL for the above posting is

http://www.leitrim-roscommon.com/lrboard/messages/511.html

 

 

 

 Reply-to:         <>    From:         "Sue Williamson" <suewilli@tpgi.com.au>  | Block address

    Date:         Mon, 22 Nov 1999 14:02:09 +1100  Subject:         [CRYAN] Cregan Family

      To:         CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Hi,My name as you can see is Sue Williamson. My mother's maiden name was

Cregan and her great-grandfather came from Armagh in 1854 on board the

Miles Barton. He travelled with his brother David and they went to the

Ballarat Goldfields in Victoria Australia. Family folklore has David

latertravelling onto the Colorado Goldfields although I have no records to

support this. Their Father was James Cregan anf their Mother Ann Cregan

(nee McNulty). We have no further information about his family in

Irelandother than this. Some further information from Ireland would be greatly

appreciated. Mum and I are fairly new to this, but catching on really

quickly.Look forward to hearing from other Cregan researchers.

Sue

Sue Williamson

17 Fourteenth Street

Hepburn  Vic  3461

email: suewilli@tpgi.com.au

Ph: (03) 5348 3510

 

Date:        Mon, 22 Nov 1999 17:56:26 -0500

   From:        Elaine Matthews <raphael57@bellsouth.net>  | Block address

 Subject:        [CRYAN] obituary    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

 

Here's an obituary that's in this week's Limerick Leader newspaper:

The death of William Cregan, Churchtown, Newcastlewest and late of

Kiltanna, Knockaderry occurred at St. Ita's Hospital, Newcastlewest. He

is regretted by his wife Monica, son Michael, daughter Majella, brother

Tim, sister, nephew, nieces, brothers-in-law, sisters-in-law, relatives

and friends. Funeral Mass took place in Church of the Immaculate

Conception, Newcastlewest and burial was in Calvary Cemetery.

From:        ljstandak@webtv.net (Lyle Staehnke)  | Block address   Date:        Wed, 24 Nov 1999 15:53:21 -0800 (PST) Subject:        [CRYAN] RE:Cryan     To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

This is some information I got from microfiche at the LDS FHS..

Roscommon.

 

Parents..James Cryan _ Atty Oconnor Born: 7 OCT. 1864 Female- Cryan (no

first name) Boyle-ballinfad Parish...

Parents.. Thomas Cryan/Mary Cryan  Born: 28 Oct. 1865 Boyle  Andrew

Cryan.

 

Parents.. Patritii Cryan/Catherinae McDonough-- Christined 8 july

1866--

Anna Cryan-breedogue and ballinameen parish.

 

Parents.. Marci Cryan/Mariae Keigan_ Christened 9 oct. 1841 Kilbride

Parish Annam Cryan..

 

Annam Cryan married Thomam carty- 17 feb 1853.... ardcarn and tuamna

parish.

 

Parents.. Thomas Cryan/Anne Dignan born: 22 may 1866 Anne Cryan..

castleplunket parish..

 

Parents.. Patt Cryan/Catherine McDermott--born 27 june 1866 Anne

Cryan--

ballinmeen parish..

 

Parents..Patt Cryan/Bridget Cryan-- born: 8 july 1866 Anne Cryan..

ballinafad parish.

 

Bernardum Cryan Married Anna Noone.. 16 feb. 1863 cootehall parish...

 

Bernardus Cryan christined 16 dec, 1876 breedogue and ballinameen

parish..

 

Parents..Peter Cryan/Maria Foley --born:31 jan. 1865 --Bridget Cryan --

Boyle..

 

Parents. Michael Cryan/Ellen Brennan - born: 9 aug. 1866 Bridget

Cryan..

Boyle..

 

More latter.... Lyle

 

From:        "John Sheerin" <jsheerin@erols.com>  | Block address     To:        "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> Subject:        Re: Your 23 NOV [CRYAN] plea email

   Date:        Fri, 26 Nov 1999 13:54:34 -0500

 

Thanks for you email!I am somewhat confused by the name " Caoimhghin O Croidheain"!!!

 In addition, If I wanted to join the CRYAN-L group or be on their

List, andget involved, what do I have to do? How accurate is your information on both Mary Ann Cryan and JamesBrennanin your email below?, and where did the information come from?

Waiting to hear from you, another Cryan researcher.Warm regards,

Jake Sheerin,Annapolis MD.

 

Date:        Fri, 26 Nov 1999 12:28:16 -0800 (PST)   From:        Caoimhghin O Croidheain <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>  | Block address Subject:        Re: Your 23 NOV [CRYAN] plea email

     To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

HiDelighted to hear from you. Th Cryan-l is on the

Rootsweb.com site. I will also post this letter to

Leslie who runs cryan-l and she will be delighted to

help you on board (another new subscriber!) You can

write to Michael Tobin diorectly or through the

cryan-l. I hope you join as there are many people

searching the cryan surname involved

regards caoimhghin

 

 

   From:        "Eddie" < >  | Block address   Date:        Fri, 3 Dec 1999 00:17:11 -0000 Subject:        [CRYAN] Hi from Eve and Atty info     To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Hi, I am back in contact having lost the use of our computor completely

since the beginning of November. However it has now been rebuilt, new

CPUfaster and more storage, so we are a renewed spirit.

Please could someone send to me the mail on the Cryan list that

appearedbetween 10 and 17 of November which we have lost completely - we

believebecause of a problem at our ISP.

Atty is short for Attracta 5th century saint whose feast day is 11

August."She seems to have been a contemporary of St Patrick. She certainly was

arecluse, first at Killaraght,on Louch Gara,and then at Drum, near Boyle

(both of these in the Cryan heartland). Both places eventually grew

intonunneries,under her direction. She is venerated throughout Ireland"

Elsewhere I have that the patron saint of Killaraght parish is St

Attracta.There is also a well to which there were pilgrimages. And there are 7

wellsdedicated to her in the whole of Achonry diocese.

Various spellings appear in the parish registers and some have been

mis-transcribed either into the register by someone writing

phoneticallywhat they hear(not beeing familliar with the accent or the name) or out

ofit finding the writing difficult to read. I have so far 4 Attractas who

married CRYAN men on my card index.

Attracta (Atty) McDONOGH m John CRYAN (yes) 14 March 1825 in Boyle RC

all 10 children (which I presume you know) appear with their

christeningdates in the Taunagh RC parish register ie Riverstown.

It is likely that your Atty's surname was "fixed" to a different

spellingwhen she entered the USA, when , as above it was spelled phonetically.

Until again Eve

 

From:        RoCryan@aol.com  | Block address   Date:        Sat, 4 Dec 1999 12:02:42 EST

 Subject:        [CRYAN] Attracta     To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Eve, thanks for the information on Attracta .  I've been told by my

spiritual advisor that I have some incredibly strong female ancestors. Since

Atty's feast day is close to my birthday I'll do some research on her (after

the holiday's) and, perhaps, really have her in my corner.

Be well, Rosalie

 

Date:        Sat, 04 Dec 1999 18:05:04 -0600   From:        Pam Burleson <pburleson@skyenet.net>  | Block address Subject:        [CRYAN] Atty     To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Eve,Do you happen to have the name of the 10 children of Attracta McDonogh

and John Cryan so I can confirm??  I have Only 9 of the 10 of my Atty

and John.  They are:

Wynafred abt 1828

Sarah abt 1832

Patrick abt 1834

Michael abt 1835

Mary abt 1839

Timothy abt 1841

Mark abt 1844

John

James abt 1846

This has been a real break through for us,  Thanks ALOTPam Burleson

 

 

From:        Fatarm@aol.com  | Block address   Date:        Sun, 5 Dec 1999 13:24:14 EST

 Subject:        [CRYAN] Fwd: {not a subscriber} CREAN-new entry    To:CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

but I didn't wan't you all to miss this message while I figure out

what's wrong)

Old-Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 19:38:10 -0800 (PST)

From: Sean Crean <sfcrean@yahoo.com>

To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

To all:I have enjoyed and appreciated all the work that has

come before. Today I'll add my piece.

My father Patrick Joseph Crean was born at 54 Chief

Street in Belfast in 1920 to the son of a wealthy

brick and coal merchant. My grandfather, Joseph

Michael  Crean and his wife Rose Crossan emigrated to

the US in 1922 against the backdrop of the Catholic

persecution in Belfast. Joseph subsequently became the

Chief Electrician for Macy's Department Store.  Joseph

was the youngest of seven children of Patrick Crean

and Elizabeth Skeffington and was born on the Crumlin

Road.  The family lived near the Ardoyne area and

attended Holy Cross Church.  Patrick and Elizabeth's

children were Mary (Sister Mary Gertrude RSHM) b. 1871

d. 1904 in France; James J. (a noted cyclist -more

later) b. approx 1874 d. 1913 in the US; Josephine b.

1881 d. 1967 (Canada), Elizabeth (Lily) b. approx 1883

d. 1932; Patrick Dominic b. 1886 d. 1960; Michael

DESMOND (much more on him later) b 1887 d 1950 and my

grandfather Joseph Michael b. 1891 d 1957.

Ggrandfather Patrick and his brother Michael were born

in Sligo near Lough Gill - perhaps in the Hazlewood

area. As young men they moved to the booming city of

Belfast to make their fortune.  Michael married the

daughter of the owners of the Belfast Telegraph,  Mary

Ann Kane.  They had ten children. James, Mary(Minnie),

Theresa (also a Sister of RSHM), Bernard (who was

knighted in 1928), Joseph, (who emigrated to So.

Africa) Michael, John, Nan,  and two  twins that died.

  Their company was M&P Crean on 2 Queens Quay,

Belfast.In 1890, Patrick received a patent (#16231) from

London for an improved kiln which reduced the firing

time on bricks by 36 hours. Michael died approx 1900.

Patrick died in 1918.

I believe through your help that Patrick's parents

were Michael Crean (spelled Creheen on the LDS) and

Mary Togher.  These fit for the ages of Patrick and

Michael's births, but the location is Drumcliff.  If

anyone can give me the location of Drumcliff to

Hazelwood(oral tradition) it will let me know if I'm

on track.

My cousin Maureen who is the daughter of Joseph of

South Africa lives in New Zealand and is in her 80's.

She has been of tremendous help.  The internet and

email is wonderful. DESMOND, actor, author, patriot

traced our history back to the early Sligo Creans.

Unfortunately, his work appears to be lost.

Sean Crean, Freeport, Maine

 

From:        Fatarm@aol.com  | Block address   Date:        Sun, 5 Dec 1999 13:43:56 EST

 Subject:        [CRYAN] Admin     To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

A quick reminder and a warm welcome to the 19 newcomers since

mid-September!Please only send email to Cryan-L from your subscribed email account. 

Rootsweb mailing lists are closed, meaning rootsweb will only recognize

and send on the email address you used when you subscribed.  Contact me

directly for info on how to change that address.

Email to the list should always be addressed "Cryan-L@rootsweb.com",

even if you are a "-D" subscriber.  This way everyone gets it.  "-request" is

only for subscribing or unsubbing -- again, email me if you want more info

or need help.

For anyone wishing to catch-up on missed emails, please visit

Caoimhghin's website, where he has kindly posted our emails since the early days.

This is a lot easier to use than the rootsweb search engine to retrieve old

emails.  Just download and use your word processor to search for your topics:

http://www.geocities.com/caoimhghin/

Happy holidays all -- I'm enjoying all the emails!  Leslie

Reply-to:         "FamSpack" < >    From:         "FamSpack" < >  | Block address    Date:         Sun, 5 Dec 1999 23:54:51 -0000

  Subject:         [CRYAN] Helpful info.      To:         CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Hi all,

You will be pleased to hear that more data has now been added to the

1901census at the Leitrim and Roscommon website.

There are more CRYANs in Boyle town and there are others that you may

nothave thought about -

1.  You can be very specific and enter any of the search fields that

youknowor 2.  more usefully you can just enter the "Head of Household Surname"

boxleaving all the other boxes empty. This will then give all the

informationon people with that surname of householder

or 3. also very useful, you can enter the surname in which you have

interestinto the box labelled "Others enumerated in Household", leaving the

otherboxes empty and this can result in giving people living away from

home,ororphans etc.

4. I have not tried but if you just enter the name of the townland in

therelevant box you should get all those living in the townland ie the

neighbours.....often very useful.Good Luck , do try it.Eve

 

From:  "Paul-McVey" <Paul-McVey@email.msn.com>  | Block address         To:             "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>     Subject:   Re: cryans   Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1999 11:05:23 -0000

Hi, Kevin

Thanks for your e-mail.  I tried to find your web page after I'd spoken

toyou on Saturday, but for some reason, couldn't.  I have now, as you

willsee, and have bookmarked it.  I look forward to receiving your letter

andwill send you a copy of the photos I have of Robert Cryan's grave, once

Iget a set developed.  Unfortunately, they were taken with a single use

camera in late afternoon in December, so aren't of the best quality.

When Ifound the grave (which I did very soon after looking, which was a

stroke ofluck) it was to find that the inscription is very faint indeed.  I

don'tknow what type of stone was used - if it is in fact stone and not

concrete -but it must be very soft, and in a very short time won't be readable.

Talk to you soonRegardsPaul.

----- Original Message -----

From: Caoimhghin O Croidheain <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>

To: <paul-mcvey@msn.com>

Sent: Monday, December 06, 1999 1:04 PM

Subject: cryans

> Hi> I sent you copy of Doc and foto of sons monument. I

> already had a copy but didnt realise until  Iwent back

> there on Saturday. Could you send me fotocopy of Dr

> Cryans stone as I couldent find it? I TOOK FOTOS OF

> THE DETAILS on the stone and willsend copies as soon

> as I get them.> my site is www.geocities.com/caoimhghin/

> send me an email to confirm I have the right address

Ø       Caoimhghin

 

Date:     Sun, 12 Dec 1999 13:31:25 PST   From:  Karen McElrath <K.McElrath@Queens-Belfast.AC.UK>  | Block        address Reply-to:         K.McElrath@Queens-Belfast.AC.UK   To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

  Subject:         Unidentified subject!

 

hello, cryan researchers. i have posted a note to the cryan GENFORUM

and have posted the same message here.  i currently am interested in learning

more about the following:

 

1) my sligo roots. i know that my great grandfather, martin francis

cryan, emigrated to the US circa1858, at the age of 6. his brother, patrick cryan, and sister, bridget

cryan, accompanied him. theremay have been other siblings although i am not certain of names. their

parents were patrick andcatherine (or katherine) conlon cryan, from county sligo. there is no

evidence that the parents

emigrated to the US. we are not certain whether they died during the

famine, or simply remained in

ireland. the three siblings resided initially in massachusetts, and in

fact, patrick resided for some

time in wareham, MA, served in the US civil war and later died in

somerset, MA. bridget also

resided in wareham. martin (my g grandfather), was "sent" to sharon, PA

to live with relatives,about the time that patrick enlisted in the civil war. martin lived the

remainder of his life inpennsylvania. brother patrick had 2 sons, whose names we believe were

james cryan and johncryan. each was born in wareham, and lived in boston, circa 1900. i am

searching for theirdescendants.

i also am searching for information about the parents of my emigrant

ancestors. the parents' nameswere patrick and catherine conlon cryan. i know that they lived in

county sligo, but am not sure ofthe exact whereabouts.

 

2. before she died, my elderly aunt recalled visiting cryan relatives

in swampscott, massachusetts,circa, 1920s. she recalled a Mary Cryan from swampscott, and another

male relative who workedfor the GE plant there. I am searching for inforamtion about cryans

from swampscott.

 

3. in 1973, a relative of mine, Father Edward O'Keefe, died in a car

accident in Natick,Massachusetts. He was a retired priest. Attending the funeral were

Patrick and Mary Cryan, ofBoston. I have been searching for information about these people.

Many thanks,Karen McElrath

 

 

Reply-to:         "FamSpack" < >    From:         "FamSpack" < >  | Block address    Date:         Tue, 14 Dec 1999 10:05:12 -0000  Subject:         [CRYAN] CRYAN/CONLAN

      To:         CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

 

Hi,I am sending this to the list even though it is specifically for Karen.

As I think that I have said before ,I do not have the records of the

familymembers that you mention. However it would be helpful to know the ages

ofPatrick and Bridget, the siblings of your MartinFrancis which would

help toapproach this research in another way.

1. You say MartinFrancis was 6 in 1858 ,thus he could be born about

1852.

2. If he was the youngest then the oldest his mother could be was 46

ish,    So his mother could not be born before about 1806.

3. Similarly, if he were the oldest, his mother would be about 18/19 an

soborn about    1832/33

4. Thus we have a range of dates between which a Catherine Conlan could

havebeen born.

5. I have about 20 Catherine Conlans born between these dates, the

majoritychristened in Taunagh RC parish - Riverstown Co Sligo, with a couple in

Aghanagh , and a couple in Boyle ,which served the border region of CoSligo.

6. However you say that you are not sure whether the parents were

CatherineConlan and Patrick Cryan. What is it that you are not sure of. I

presumeCRYAN goes without saying. Are you sure of the Catherine and Patrick

names ?If so then the names Catherine and Patrick can be looked at in the same

wayas points 1,2, and 3 above (though for a man the dates are not ruled by

nature !) but at least one can narrow the search down.

I do have some Patrick CRYAN marriages and I do have some (? CRYAN

/Catherine ?) marriages .And I  have some incomplete families with 2

out ofthe 3 children. But then there is much work to do.

Karen if you do have more information, which could help do let me know

and Iwill see what I can do.Eve

 

 

   Date:        Wed, 15 Dec 1999 12:08:33 -0800 (PST)   From:        Caoimhghin O Croidheain <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>  | Block address Subject: [CRYAN] website     To:  CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

HiI have redesigned my site and some new links for

anyone interested...

 http://www.geocities.com/caoimhghin/

regards,caoimhghin

 

 Reply-to:         <ariley@ltp.org>    From:   "A. Riley" <ariley@ltp.org>  | Block address

    Date:         Wed, 15 Dec 1999 17:00:01 -0600 Subject:   [CRYAN] [CRYAN-L] Our ancestor Atty (long)

      To:     CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Dear CRYAN friends and relatives,

My first cousin once removed, Pam Burleson, and I are delighted to show

theCryan-L list the information we've gathered about our ancestor,

AttractaMcDonough Crain. Eve of this list was a terrific help to us -- with the

information she gave us we were able to break through some brick walls.

Pam and I have never met in person -- her mother might remember me as a

little kid, and I clearly remember Pam's grandmother. Pam and I met

on-line -- I had put a little query on one of the many Internet sites

ofIrish names and genealogy, and Pam answered! She had a lot of

information,and I had a little, and with Eve's data, we got a lot further than

either ofus could have alone.

Anyway, here's the story of our ancestor, Atty Crain.

Atty was baptized:Aracte MCDONOUGH c 4 July 1804 in Aghanagh RC parish

parents Timothy MCDONOUGH and Aracte WALSH

Atty was married:Attracta (Atty) McDONOGH m John CRYAN 14 March 1825 in Boyle RC

Atty and John's kids were baptized:

Brigid  26 May 1826     Taunagh RC

Winifred        19 Dec 1827     ''

Sarah   21 June 1829    ''

Patrick 26 June 1831    ''

Michael 11 Nov 1832     ''

Mary    31 Aug 1834     ''

Anne    10 Oct 1837     ''

John    1 April 1839    ''

Mark    4 Aug 1844      ''

James   11 July 1846    ''

 

Aghanagh, Boyle, and Taunagh parishes are all near each other, between

thetowns of Boyle in County Roscommon and Riverstown in County Sligo.

We'veheard the family lived in the townland of Drumraine, County Sligo,

whichI've seen on a map on the website of the Gleean National School, also

in theneighborhood.Atty's husband John, who had worked in a bank, died of heatstroke while

working on a road in 1848, during the Famine. That road was probably a

public works project.Atty took the kids to America soon after that. In 1850, the census

taker inLeominster, Massachusetts, listed them. We've heard that she ran a

boardinghouse there.

 

Atty M. Crane   F       48      Ireland

Wyna Crane      F       22      Ireland

Sarah Crane     M       18      Ireland

Patrick Crane   M       16      Ireland         laborer

Michael Crane   M       15      Ireland laborer school

Mary Crane      F       14      Ireland         school

Timothy Crane   M       8       Ireland         school

Mark Crane      M       6       Ireland         school

John Crane      M       11      Ireland         school

James Crane     M       4       Ireland

 

Atty's oldest son Patrick came west to Eldorado, Wisconsin, near Fond

Du Lac, in about 1855. At least a couple of his siblings, Mark and John,

camewith him. Atty came too, but we don't yet know when that was. We've

seen aplat map of the township in 1862 -- and there's Pat's 40 acres! The

countryaround there is fine rich farm land, and I bet Pat thought his 40-acre

parcel was a kingdom. (We've seen hints and bits of other people named

Cranewho arrived in that neighborhood earlier -- maybe in-laws of Atty?)

Patrick married Bridget Murray in Eldorado. They had 11 kids: John,

Atty,James, Sadie, Kathleen, Edward, Mary Elizabeth, Mark, William, and

TimothyMichael (born in 1877 -- he eventually became my grandfather), and one

morechild who we think died young.

Atty lived long enough to see most, if not all, of Pat's kids, and to

seeher son Mark become the town clerk. She died in Eldorado in 1880, and

hereis her gravestone.

Atty, wife of John Crain

Born in LeCarrow, Sligo County, Ireland 1805

Died Jan 20 1880

May her soul rest in peace.

Rest, dear Mother, rest

Thy weary toil is done

We mourn thy loss, but hope to meet

where parting is --------(unreadable)

We still have some questions yet to find the answers to, for instance,

aboutAtty's husband, John Cryan -- all we know about him is that he married

Atty,fathered a crowd of kids, and died. We'd also like to know how Atty and

thekids got to America -- there couldn't have been a lot of spare money

aroundto buy tickets. And then why did they settle in Leominster, of all

places --it's forty miles from Boston. Somewhere on the web I've seen another

storyof someone from Aghanagh who emigrated to Leominster -- but much later.

Andthen how did Pat and his brothers get out west, and why did they choose

Eldorado?But all the mysteries in our histories is what makes this all so

interesting.A. Riley

a proud descendant of Atty Crain

ariley@ltp.org

 

 

   From:        "John Sheerin" <jsheerin@erols.com>  | Block address   Date:        Wed, 15 Dec 1999 22:18:34 -0500 Subject: [CRYAN] (CRYAN) CRYAN/BRENNAN     To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

 

I am trying this again with additional information:

Searching for more family data on my G/Grandparents:

Mary J? Cryan, born circa 1850 in Lower Deerpark, Boyle.

Dad was Michael Cryan.  Mary married my G/Grandfather,

James F? Brennan, (born circa 1850, Deerpark and Boyle areas) at St.

Joseph's RC in Boyle on 07 FEB 1870.

James' Dad was John Brennan.  Mary came to Lowell, Mass and died in May

1927and is buried in the Brennan grave plot at St. Patrick's Cemetery in

Lowell.I am looking for more information on Mary Cryans family, parents,

grandparents siblings, etc.Have a good Christmas Season and thanks for all you help.

Jake Sheerin,Annapolis MD

 

    Date:         Wed, 15 Dec 1999 21:11:04 PST    From: Karen McElrath <K.McElrath@Queens-Belfast.AC.UK>  | Block         address Reply-to: K.McElrath@Queens-Belfast.AC.UK

  Subject:         Re: [CRYAN] CRYAN/CONLAN      To:         CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

 

Many thanks, Eve, for your posting.  Martin Francis Cryan was born 25

December 1852 in County Sligo, and yes, he was 6 years old when he emigrated

with his siblings, Patrick and Bridget.  Brother Patrick Cryan was born in 1844

in County Sligo (I believe in the month of March of that year).  I know less

about their sister Bridget, having only recently learned of her first name.  I do know a

bit about Bridget's descendants in the United States:  She married Patrick

Feeney, lived in Wareham, Massachusetts, and had at least one child, Mary A. Cryan. 

I am nearly certain that the parents' names of the 3 siblings (Martin,

Patrick, and Bridget), were Patrick and Catherine (or Katherine) Conlon Cryan; the

parents' names appeared on a death and a marriage certificate.  From sons Martin

and Patrick's birth years, it seems that their mother, Catherine Conlon

Cryan was born sometime between 1806 and 1826 or so, and I suppose a marriage between

Patrick Cryan and Catherine Conlon might have occurred anytime between 1824 and

1844.  Not much to go on…Regardless, I've made note of your information with

regards to places of christenings for Catherine Conlons.  No doubt that

information might prove very useful to me in the future. 

I will be in the US for one month, beginning on 20 December.  I will

post again after that date.  Enjoy your holidays!Karen          

 

 

 Reply-to:         "FamSpack" < >    From:         "FamSpack" < >  | Block address    Date:         Thu, 16 Dec 1999 13:36:17 -0000  Subject:         [CRYAN] Re:CRYAN/BRENNAN

      To:         CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

The best that I can offer ,although there is no guarantee that these

areyour ancestors are the following

Mary CRYAN chr 26 March 1843 Boyle RC

parents Michael CRYAN and Rosa KENNY(or it could be any name that looks

orsounds like this) so I also have

James CRYAN chr 30 July 1845 Boyle RC

parents Michael CRYAN and Rosa HEANY(this is the only Rosa in the PR)

Rosa KEANY chr 1 June 1806 Taunagh RC ie Riverstown

parents Bartholemew KEANY and Bridget CONLAN

also James BRENNAN chr 7 Jan 1841 Boyle RC

parents John BRENNAN and Catherine CARROLL

James BRENNAN chr 26 Aug 1845 Boyle RC

parents John BRENAN and Bridget MULHERN

James BRENNAN chr 15 June 1845 Roscommon and Kilteevan RC(neighbouring

parish)parents John BRENNAN and Mary DIFFELY

One way to at least reject those that are not possible is to look at

thefamily nameswhich often recur from generation to generation. Often the

parents names are given to the children ie they may skip a generation.

Insome families there are lots of Michaels ,in some Thomas.... these two

inparticular do not often occur together. There are also not many

Williams orTimothys or Andrew s with the CRYAN surname  etc That looking at the

complete picture may help identify which are the more likely to followup.

Hope that this helps Eve

 

Date:        Fri, 24 Dec 1999 09:08:37 -0800 (PST)   From:        Caoimhghin O Croidheain <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>  | Block addressSubject:       [CRYAN] happy xmas

     To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

hi Leslie

Thanks for your kind comments on my site.

I was thinking as we enter the third year of the

mailing list it would be a good idea to publicise it

throug different outlets. For example a mail shot to

the Cryans etc in ones area, country or city. Irish

Roots said they would mention my site in their next

issue.It would be great to double the amount of subscribers

for example by next June?!?!happy xmas to allcaoimhghin

 

From:       TimNascar@aol.com  | Block address   Date:        Fri, 24 Dec 1999 14:31:19 EST

 Subject:        Irish Phrase     To:        caoimhghin@yahoo.com

 

Can you tell me what the following phrase means, not sure of the

spelling but it's one of the two:

ta na nog

ta ra rog

I noticed this while in Raleigh, NC...it's the name of an Irish Pub.

Timaka: timnascar@aol.comTPLESS69, 69 Cuda Conv. 340Monroe, NC

Turn Left and Go Fast......This is NASCAR Country!

 

From:        Fatarm@aol.com  | Block address  Date:        Fri, 24 Dec 1999 22:06:42 EST

 Subject:        Re: happy xmas     To:        caoimhghin@yahoo.com

Good ideas.  I've found some cousins I'd never met before on other

family branches by sending letters -- after the holidays I'll write something

up and send it to the list, and ask what success others have had.

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year, Leslie

 

 

   From:        Voltene@aol.com  | Block address   Date:        Sat, 1 Jan 2000 19:47:18 EST

 Subject:        [CRYAN] CRYAN Obits in Lowell, MA     To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Hello to the list and Happy New Year!

       Last year I posted the following list of Cryans buried in

cemeteries in Lowell, MA.       Since there are a number of new subscribers to the Cryan list, I

wanted to repost it.       I  have obituaries for each of these CRYANS.

        Not all resided in Lowell, and many of the obits mention

survivors in different cities and states.         If anyone would like me to e-mail any to you, please give me

the name and date of death.

CRYAN

 

Alexander T, age 75, died 27 Mar. 1956

 

Anna G. (O'Reilly), a. 50, died 3 Apr. 1936

 

Annie, Miss, a. 47, died 11 Nov. 1922

 

Annie, a. 88, died 20 Nov. 1962, res. Medford, MA

 

Annie J. (McGuane), a. 92, died 19 Nov. 1972, d. in Jamaica Plain,MA

 

Ann (Mulhearn), a. 62, died 29 June 1916, widow of Thomas

 

Bridget T., Miss, a. 80, died 3 Jan. 1949

 

Bridget (Foley) a. 73, died 17 Dec. 1921, widow of Michael

 

Bridget, Miss., a. 75, died 14 Jan. 1948

 

Bridget, (Leighton) a.70, died 19 Nov. 1912, wife of Timothy

 

Delia (Bridget)(Sullivan) a. 79, died 23 June 1954, widow of Thomas E.

 

Edward J., a. 83, died 20 May 1945,

 

Hannah, Miss, a. 56, died 16 Aug. 1920

 

Harriet V. (Tyrrell), a. 79, died 29 Apr. 1954, widow of John

 

Irene H. (Harrington), a. 68, died 21 Mar. 1975

 

James, a. 55, died 25 Jan. 1939, res. New York City, NY

 

James Charles, a. 35, died 20 Oct 1909, husband of Mary(Conway)

 

James Joseph, a. 27, died 17 Nov. 1908

 

James, a. 56, died 17 Dec. 1920

 

James P. a. 65, died 26 June 1966,

 

James U., a. 81, died 29 Jan. 1990,

 

John J., a. 59, died Nov. 1954

 

John J., a. 74, died abt 2 Feb. 1975

 

John P., a. 64, died 4 Feb. 1939, widower of Anna(O'Reilly)

 

John P., a. 65, died 25 Jan 1940 husband of Harriett(Tyrrell)

 

Julia M. (Fitzgerald), a. 60, died 3 June 1925, wife of Thomas

 

Katherine, a. 12, died 26 Mar 1918

 

Leo C., a. (?), died 1 Feb. (?), husand of Delima (Laline)

 

Madeline T., Miss, a. 84, died 19 Dec. 1992

 

Margaret A. (Murray), a. 68, died 11 Feb. 1934

 

Margaret J., Miss, a. 82, died 10 Sept. 1959

 

Margaret A.(Moloney) a. 82. died 24 Apr. 1947, widow of Martin C.

 

M. Annie, Miss, a. 75, died 13 Aug. 1943,

 

Mary Louise (Boisvert), a. 35, died 10 Dec. 1928

 

Mary, Miss, a. 56, died 19 Feb. 1925

 

Mary, a. 73, died 31 July 1902, widow of Michael

 

Mary (Conway), a.49, 13 Sept. 1924, widow of James C.

 

Mary, Miss, a. 95, died 21 Sept 1983

 

Mary E., Miss, a. 25, died 2 Feb. 1920

 

Martin C., a. 61, died 27 Mar. 1936 husband of  Margaret A.(Moloney)

 

Michael ., a. 28, died 6 May 1911

 

Michael, a. 50, died 8 June 1899

 

Nellie, a. 2 yrs,5 mos., died 25 Aug. 1907, dau. of Thomas and Bridget

 

Nellie, Miss, a. 58, died 27 Sept. 1939

 

Nora, Miss, a. 52, died 3 Sept. 1938

 

Robert W., a. 29, died abt. 25 June 1956, in Boston, noobit.

 

Rosemary, a. 12, died 2 Nov. 1935

 

Sarah B.(McMahon) a.71, died 13 July 1911, widow of James

 

Sarah A. (Igo), a. 29, died 16 Jan. 1905, wife of John

 

Thomas E.,Jr, a. 52, died 21 May 1952.

 

Thomas, a. 65, died 14 Apr. 1910

 

Thomas W., a. (?), died 7 Jan. 1949

 

Thomas E., a. 62, died 15 Sept. 1934

 

Thomas, a. 74, died 25 Mar. 1937

 

Timothy J., a. 52, died 4 May 1970, res. Fitchburg, MA

 

J. Vincent, a. 8 yrs.,7 mos., died 22 Apr. 1923, son of John & Harriett

Karen MurphyNashua, NH

P.S. Wanted to thank Kevin Cryan for  posting the Cryan List e-mails onhis

great website.I lost my computer hard drive and all my files including the above

list.  I was able to copy the obit list again from his site  and much more.Definitely check out :

 http://www.geocities.com/caoimhghin/

 

   From:        PFinnis@aol.com  | Block address   Date:        Sun, 2 Jan 2000 21:25:35 EST

 Subject:        Cemetery site     To:        WALSH-L@rootsweb.com

Hi Listers:Got this site from the GENCLASS listing and thought I would share it

with you guys too.Happy hunting for 2000...

 <A HREF="http://www.interment.net/">Cemetery Records Online -

Cemeteries and Genealogy</A> http://www.interment.net

Patti in NJSearching WALSH,  BURKE, LAVELLE, KAVANAUGH, GALLAGHER, HOGAN AND

SCANLON and JUDGE SCRANTON, PA

 

From:        Fatarm@aol.com  | Block address   Date:        Sat, 8 Jan 2000 16:24:02 EST

 Subject:        [CRYAN] Cregan     To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

The following was recently posted at:  <A

HREF="http://www.familyhistory.com/messages/showmsg.asp?id=646645">FamilyHisto

ry.com - Message Boards</A>

http://www.familyhistory.com/messages/showmsg.asp?id=646645

I'm trying to contact the researcher presently, but I thought you

Cregan researchers might be interested right away ...

Subject: Cregan Family Tree

Posted by: Daniel Patrick Cregan

Message: I am new to tracing family history. I am 4th generation Cregan

in the US; great grandfather --Michael Edward Cregan -- arrived from

Ireland in 1880 - 1895 and settled in the NYC area where most of the relations

lived. Any available info on NYC Cregan's would be appreciated. There were

other relations that I have limited information on. You can contact me via

E-Mail.Thank you

 

   From:        RuthK3834@aol.com  | Block address   Date:        Sat, 8 Jan 2000 18:52:17 EST

 Subject:        [CRYAN] Reply to Daniel Patrick Cregan     To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

I have no e-mail address for Mr. Cregan, but I have been researching

the Cregan's for a long time.  My grandmother was a Cregan and she had a

brother named Michael who settled in NY at the time mentioned.  There were 10

children in the family and I have much information on the Cregans.  I

have even found some living cousins in Ireland.  I would like very much to

communicate with Mr. Cregan. Ruth RuthK3834@aol.com

 

   From:        SCK32160@aol.com  | Block address   Date:        Mon, 10 Jan 2000 17:54:10 EST

 Subject:        [CRYAN] The Surname Crean     To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

HelloI am seeking info on my GG Grandmother Catherine Crean from Townalatha

Sligo.  She married my GG Grandfather William Farris from Culleens on Jan 25

1866 in Kilglass Chapel.  Any info on her DOB-Parents or siblings would be

great. I have looked and found nothing?     Thanks, Chris Kennedy   USA

 

 

 Reply-to:         "FamSpack" < >    From:         "FamSpack" < >  | Block address    Date:         Tue, 11 Jan 2000 11:11:32 -0000  Subject:         [CRYAN] Re The Surname CREAN/FARRIS      To:         CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Hi Everyone, but in particular Chris Kennedy,

The only record that I can find is a child of William and Catherine but

thattells us other things that may help with your search but I will go into

those later.........You may already have this ....

Honor FARRIS  born 25 Jan 1870 in Easky Co Sligo

parents William FARRIS and Catherine CREAN

(from the Civil Registration for Ireland)

Easky and Kilglass are at the NE extremity of Co Sligo in Kilalla RC

DioceseEasky parish records start in 1864 and Kilglass in 1825 so there should

bemore available on a film of the parish records which you should be able

toborrow through the LDS Family History Centre.

More details of the film numbers and what else is available for the

area canbe obtained from the LDS website which has a catalogue section

http://ww.familysearch.com

There are other FARRIS'...spelled that way....who are producing

children atthe same time as the above who may be William's siblings, but if you

havenot done so already and if there is one, I would look at the parish

recordfilm....it is usuallyin the original writing and is sometimes difficult

toread or it is faded...happy hunting there.

Here are the other FARRIS parents producing children around 1870

Charles FARRIS born 11 March 1868 in Easky Co Sligo

parents Charles FARRIS and Anne HANLY (Civil Registration)

Thomas FARRIS born 10 May 1870 in Easky Co Sligo

parents Charles FARRIS and Anne HANLY (Civil Registration)

I hope that this Is helpful...Good Luck...Eve

 

 

Reply-to:         "FamSpack" < >    From:         "FamSpack" < >  | Block address    Date:         Tue, 11 Jan 2000 11:20:59 -0000  Subject:         [CRYAN] Apology,CREAN info and correct website address      To:         CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Hi All, Sorry about the incorrect info about Family Search ..it seems

to bemy day.However somehow I was guided to this reply that I gave to a query back

inJune which may be of interest to Chris Kennedy especially.

Eve again

Hi Kevin ,

Sadly there are very few census records in Ireland to help you.The 1901

isthe most complete but much of the rest was destroyed in the fires of

1916.There are however other ways of getting to the information that you

wouldlike.I can not lay my hand on my book that lists all the Irish resources, at

thepresent time. I will let you know when I find it and send you anything

relevant. However, at the LDS there is a very comprehensive catalogue

ontheir computer. (you may have to book to use it).

HOWEVER on the internet you can enter the LDS Family Search site and

look attheir catalogue and it gives the film numbers for Kilglass Co Sligo

1901census and for the parish records.There are two ways of getting there

http://www.familysearch.org/search from where you can access other

types ofsearches as well as clicking on "Custom Search" through which you get a

listand then you click on to the catalogue title.

OR directly so you can not be side tracked

http://wwwfamilysearch.org/search/searchcatalog.asp

CREAN/CRYAN and all the other variants can be interchangeable the

furtherback one goes. No spelling is fixed. Looking through parish records one

finds what is obviously the same family with a different surname

spellingfor each of their children. WHY? well one explanation is that Irish

accentsvary as much as the people but the name written down depended on the

personwho heard it to write it down. This was usually the priest and after

1864the registrar (NB not all people were registered for whatever reason).

Saythe names in different accents and you will come up with a huge variety

ofspellings. Here are just a few that I have come across in the parish

registers Crane, Crion, Creyon, Krine, Crine, Cryne, Croghan, Crehen

Craheenetc.Good luck with your search Eve

 

From:        "Michael Tobin" <tobinmi@hotmail.com>  | Block address Subject:        Re: {not a subscriber} Re: [CRYAN] Admin   Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 16:29:54 PST     To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Hello Patrick,I am temporarily looking after the admin side of the Cryan list for

Leslie, who has irregular access to the Net at present. In this capacity, I got

copied on the email below. I just want to confirm with you that you

were trying to subscribe to the list. If so, I don't think it worked for

you, but as temporary list administrator, I can subscribe you to the list if you

wish.regardsMichael

>From: "Pat Cryans" <pat@pcryans.fsnet.co.uk>

>To: <Fatarm@aol.com>, <CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com>

>Subject: {not a subscriber} Re: [CRYAN] Admin

>Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 12:59:23 -0800 (PST)

 

 

   From:        "Pat Cryans" <pat@pcryans.fsnet.co.uk>  | Block address   Date:        Thu, 13 Jan 2000 12:52:13 -0000

 Subject:        [CRYAN] Niland-Cryan     To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

REF;Thomas Cryan  15/07/1861 origin Drumfin Townland.was his parents

marriage. sponsers were pat cryan jacob morrison,Bridget was from the 

 Townland of Carrigans Upper near Ballymote, parish of Emlagfad.Anna

Niland born 26/04/1876 Drumfin

Brothers of Bridget.

PAT CRYAN-MARY McHUGH BORN 1829   MARRIED. 1856. DIED, 1878

JOHN CRYAN MARY O GARA BORN1834 MARRIED  1860.  DIED 1889.

THOMAS CRYAN BRIDGET HUNT BORN1836 MARRIED 1874 DIED 1883

ALL CARRIGANS UPPER

IIST OF CHILDREN  PAT.BIDDY 1857,BEEZY,1865, MARY,1869, CATHERINE1876

JOHN,BRIDGET,1862, PATRICK 1864,MICHAEL,1866, MARY,1867,JOHN

1869,CATHERINE,1875

THOMAS,JOHN,1875,[KNOWN AS THE HERMIT].WHEN HE DIED IN 1943 AGED  YEARS

HE LEFT HIS FARM TO APETER NYLAND WHO LATER SOLD IT TO A GOLDEN FAMILY

I HAVE THE WILL. AT HOME

PATRICK CRYANS

 

From:        Jill Devito <devito@uta.edu>  | Block address Subject:

        RE: [CRYAN] CRYAN Obits in Lowell, MA   Date:        Thu, 13 Jan 2000 18:53:35 -0600

     To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Hello Karen, Joan, Rosalee, Jake, and Cryan-listers,

When I was in Lowell in December I looked up the following Cryan

obituarywhich is not on your list:

(I have reason to believe this person was my great-great grandfather's

brother). The pall-bearers listed include at least four of my known

relatives.

Lowell Courier Citizen

Friday, May 28, 1915

Obituary   Timothy Cry died yesterday at his home, 48 White street.  He leaves

fourdaughters, Hanna, Mary, Annie Cry, and Mrs Fred Mayo, and one sister,

Mrs.Michael O'Flahavan.

Lowell Courier Citizen

Monday, May 31, 1915

Funerals

   The funeral of Timothy Cryan took place Saturday at 8:30 o'clock

from hishome, 48 White street.  At 9 o'clock in St. Columba's church funeral

masswas celebrated by the pastor, Rev. John A. Degan.  The choir under the

direction of Miss Catherine F. Wholey rendered the Gregorian chant,

MissFrances Tighe sustaining the solos.  The bearers were Thomas Hayden,

JohnOrt, John Cryan, James Cryan, James O'Flahavan and John P. Cryan.  The

floral tributes were many and beautiful.  Burial was in the family lot

inSt. Patrick's cemetery, where the committal prayers were read at the

graveby Rev. J.A. Degan.  Undertaker Peter Davey had charge of funeral

arrangements.

-----Original Message-----

From: Voltene@aol.com [mailto:Voltene@aol.com]

Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2000 6:47 PM

From:        Tscrya@aol.com  | Block address   Date:

        Sun, 16 Jan 2000 14:22:25 EST Subject: [CRYAN] Re: CRYAN-D Digest V00 #5

     To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

In a message dated 1/15/00 8:47:09 AM Eastern Standard Time,

CRYAN-D-request@rootsweb.com writes:

<< Cryan-L@rootsweb.com" >>

I am looking for information on my grandmother and grandfather from

Ireland.My Grandmother was Delia Bridget Cryan, who died in 1954 in Lowell, MA.

 She was the daughter of Edward Sullivan and Ellen A'Hearn.  She was born in

Ireland in around 1875.

My Grandfather was Thomas E. Cryan, who died in 1934 in Lowell, MA.  He

was the son of Michael Cryan and Mary Welch.  He was born in England around

1872. I have some information, but not sure of its source that states that

one of my grandfather was from the village of Dooneen and my grandmother from

Kock.  They were married in a village of Cort.

If anyone can help me with finding some additional, verifiable

information on my grandparents I will be grateful.  I am going to be going to Ireland

to work for three months and would appreciate having information on their

background so that I may travel to my ancestral roots.Tom Cryan

 

 

 Reply-to:         "FamSpack" < >    From:         "FamSpack" < >  | Block address    Date:         Mon, 17 Jan 2000 15:17:55 -0000  Subject:         [CRYAN] Re Delia and Thomas CRYAN in Lowell     To:         CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Hi Tom,Half of all the CRYANs seems to have emigrated to Lowell...

However I do have a little info....

1. Way back in a posting to the list which you can look at on

Caoimhghin O'Croidheain's Web page anddated 14 April 1999 Voltene@aol.com or Karen

Murphygave a list of Lowell CRYAN obituaries and offers to send the

obituaries.They often mention survivors living elsewhere and she asks that one

sendsthe name and date of death.

among the list are Delia(Bridget)(sullivan) CRYAN a 79 died 23 June

1954widow of Thomas E

and Thomas E CRYAN a 62 died 15 Sept 1934 husband of Delia

There is also a Michael CRYAN but no obvious connection, this one died8

june 1899 aged 50 - no other info.

2.In another CRYAN list posting Jill deVito gives the burials inSt

Patrick'sCemetery grouped by yard and lot numbers

In Yard5B Lot 31

ThomasE 62 9/16/34 b abt 1872

Delia 79 6/25/54 b abt 1875

Bridget O 11/11/94 b abt1894 (?)

Gertrude 3 10/28/99 b abt 1896

Madeline 84 12/22/92 b abt 1908

Possibly if you read the whole of the two lists to gether with the

obituaries the can be more link made

3. I looked up the parents of Delia -Edward SULLIVAN and Ellen AHERN

andcame up with no Deia or Bridget but

 Mary born 1 Dec 1870 in Canaway, Co Cork, Irish Civil Reg

parents Edward SULLIVAN and Ellen AHERN

Thomas born 1 Dec 1873 in Cannaway, Co Cork, Irish Civil Reg

parents Ned SULLIVAN and Ellen AHERN

but any others of the family are not on my lists , they are probably

fromneibouring districts that I do not have - but it gives an area to look.

Bestplace is to look in the LDS  Family History Centres which have the

IrishIndex ti Birth Marriages and Deaths on films which you have to search.

4 I have not yet found anything else that fits, but you may find more

on yhewebsite mentioned above. I am sure that you will find it if you do a

generalseach on CRYAN or Croidheain

Good Luck with the searching Eve

 

From:        Fatarm@aol.com  | Block address   Date:        Mon, 17 Jan 2000 12:49:53 EST Subject:

        [CRYAN] Brian Boru and Irish historical websites     To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

 

The following was originally posted on the rootsweb Roscommon mailing

list.  Enjoy!  (I really loved tooling around in a few of these sites --

always something to learn.  The last site has an Irish history timeline  that

was particularly interesting:  http://www.clannada.org/docs/theline.htm):

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 22:06:08 -0500

From: "Darcy Freeman" <hotdarcy@earthlink.net>

To: ROSCOMMON-L@rootsweb.com

Message-ID: <002801bf5f05$79df0f40$4686f5d1@compaqcomputer>

Subject: Brian Boru's websites

Content-Type: text/plain;

    charset="iso-8859-1"

MIME-Version: 1.0

 

http://www.mindspring.com/~cc003636/boru.html     Story of Brian Boru

http://www.sleeping-giant.ie/bealick/index.html       Location where

Brian

Boru grew Up

http://www.sawyer-family.org/d0000/I14825.html     Brian Boru's Decent

into a

family Generation

 

http://www.okelly.net/battles/boru.htm            Death Of Brian Boru

 

http://www.arpnet.it/carolan/english/pubblic/cd/awen5.htm   Brian

Boru's

MARCH  <music>

 

http://indigo.ie/~killeens/norse.html    History of Land and

Tenure....Brian

Boru

 

http://www.elore.com/elirho01.html     History of Ireland...including

Brian

Boru

 

http://ukdb.web.aol.com/hutchinson/encyclopedia/60/M0013760.htm   Irish

 

History to 1921   (including Brian Boru)

 

http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Lounge/2782/ireland.html  History

of

Ireland (including dates..Brian Boru...and Jesus..etc)

 

http://www.irishmart.com/ibooks.htm  Brian Boru  & Books ONLINE

 

http://english.glendale.cc.ca.us/irish.html   Brian Boru Links

 

http://www.clannada.org/ref1.html  Clannada Na Gadelica    (webpage

from

Ireland...Brian Boru)

 

http://www.clannada.org/docs/theline.htm   Clannada Time

Line.....(including

Brian Boru and Niall Hostages etc......

 

   From:        "Kevin J. Crean" <Kevin_J._Crean@HUD.GOV>  | Block address   Date:

        Tue, 18 Jan 2000 09:19:57 -0500 Subject:        [CRYAN] Current Obit

     To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

 

I received the following obit from my brother who knows of this list.

Itappeared in Newsday (Long Island, New York) on  Jan 10, 2000.  Sorry

it's only apartial.  It's all he sent.  But if anyone is interested, I am sure I

can get ahard copy of the full listing.

CREEN- Kenneth Alexander, 32

Beloved son of Joseph and Florence (nee Mechowski). Cherished brother

ofLaura Duffy and her husband Tim, Joseph , Jr.,  Michael and his wife,

Veronica, and Mary, bla, bla bla.

 

 

   From:        "Roger Cryan" <cryan@avana.net>  | Block address Subject:

        Re: [CRYAN] CRYAN Obits in Lowell, MA   Date:        Tue, 18 Jan 2000 18:15:45 -0500

     To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Regarding Jill's message:

My great grandfather's family lived at 90 White Street.  This was the

familyof Martin and Margaret (Molony/Maloney) Cryan, both listed also in

Karen'snecrology.

Martin came from Ballinanultagh Townland near Boyle in Roscommon,

althoughhis parents were married to the West of that in Sligo.

Margaret was born and raised in Lowell.  (Her father, Pat, was

apparentlyMolony in County Clare, and Maloney in Lowell.)

I've posted all this in much greater detail several times; check the

archiveor ask me and I'll put it up again.

Two and one-half years ago, my wife and daughter and I visited Ireland.

 Wewent to Boyle and found, to our surprise that the Cryan farmstead (not

theoriginal cottage, though) was still occupied by a Cryan (related by

adoptionand marriage, though the important thing was always to "keep the name

on thefarm"), although the district around it had become wild.  We also met

another distantly-related Cryan who remembered my great uncles and

aunts,though the last of them had died in the 1940's, and their brother (my

greatgrandfather) had left Ireland in 1881.

That getting pretty close to home, and pretty far back, all at the same

time.  You really never know how close you can get until you try.        Roger

 

 

   From:        "Michael Tobin" <tobinmi@hotmail.com>  | Block address

   Date:        Tue, 18 Jan 2000 17:15:47 PST Subject:        [CRYAN] Roscommon Weekly Messenger

     To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

I saw the following on the soc.genealogy.ireland newsgroup. If anyone

visits the LDS regularly, this tape might be worthwhile consulting. However,

if most of our ancestors in those areas were tenant farmers perhaps in

those days, they would not bother paying for a paid announcement in a

newpaper?

>On film (brand new) at LDS is Film #1145944 covering paid

announcements of >BDM during 1848-1854.

>This film ought to be of interest not only those searching Roscommon

>county, but it had very wide circulation also in Galeway, Longord, 

>Leitrim, Mayo and Sligo for searchers in those counties.

 

 

   From:        diana348@aol.com  | Block address   Date:        Thu, 20 Jan 2000 11:44:38 EST

 Subject:        Cryan's     To: caoimhghin@yahoo.com

any past Cryan's of John, or John Joseph Cryan and Catherine Dubey (sp)

around  early 1900's,     father was a John came from Ireland , John

Joseph my Gfather.they lived in the Lowell, Mass area and in New Jersey.   appreciate any

response. thank you.  Diana L. Cryan, Brown

 

   Date:        Fri, 21 Jan 2000 19:36:16 +1100   From:        Lynne Simpson <lsimpson@effect.net.au>  | Block address

 Subject:        [CRYAN] Family of John Creegan from Drogheda area County Louth     To:

        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Does anyone know anything about John Creegan, b. abt 1830 around the

Drogheda area in Co Louth. It was thought he may have had at least

two brothers, maybe one called William. He may also have been a twin.

He left Ireland and travelled with his brothers to Liverpool. His

parentswere thought to be dead at this time (about 1853-54). He bought a

ticket toUSA from the McCann family (Co Armagh) who had a spare. One brother

alsotravelled to USA, but not with John. The other brother went to

Australiaand was never heard from again.

There was a birth entry for a William Creegan, b. 1828 in Drogheda to a

Michael and Elizabeth Creegan. This could have been John's family. Does

anyone know anything about this family?Lynne SimpsonCanberra Australia

 

From:        "Michael Tobin" <tobinmi@hotmail.com>  |    Date:        Sun, 23 Jan 2000 12:14:17 PST

 Subject:        [CRYAN] Fwd: subscribe     To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

                                                                   From: diana348@aol.com

>To: CRYAN-L-request@rootsweb.com

>Subject: subscribe

>Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 08:27:58 -0800 (PST)

>>looking for info on family of John Joseph Cryan,,, brother Leo,  

sons,>John, Ralph, Robert, Raymond, daughter Catherine Doris . Children born

>mostly>around Lowell, Mass. or N.J.     wife, Catherine Ann Bubey and Dorothy

>Clark>   any info would be appreciated .  There are 5 of us in one family

born to>Richard George Cryan of N.J., 1925-1950,   comments to

Diana348@aol.com

 

 

From:             "Anthony & Jill Cryan" <cryanaj@ozemail.com.au>  |  Organization:

             The Adjutant's Desk       Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 23:10:54 +1000     Subject:             Re: [CRYAN] The "Reply Button" etc    Reply-to:             cryanaj@ozemail.com.au         To:

             CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

FamSpack wrote:

> As always the gems are embedded........am planning a short visit to

> Australia to see family via Perth, then the coast Sydney to

> Brisbane......I rather fancy the train or bus journey Perth to

Sydney.> What do those with more experience than I think ?

A lurker speaks.....   ; )Not a lot of experience on such travel, but suffice to say that a bus

from Perth to Sydney would not be in contention.

Not knowing your time constraints, a train or plane would be the go.

When will you be visiting Brisbane ? If time permits we could meet

up for drinks, a BBQ or something with my family.

tcAnthony CryanMorningside, Brisbane, Qld, Australia

(GGSon of Domnick Cryan of Gurteen, Sligo)

 

 

Date:        Tue, 25 Jan 2000 12:08:42 PST   From:        Karen McElrath <K.McElrath@Queens-Belfast.AC.UK>  |      To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject:        Unidentified subject!

Forwarded Message:

From: Karen McElrath <kmcelrat@fujin.qub.ac.uk>

Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 01:29:31 PST

Subject: To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

hello:I recently came across Patrick Joseph Cryan, born 2 December

1903, in Brogher, County Sligo.  His parents were Anne Cosgrove and John

Cryan.  Patrick Joseph Cryan emigrated to the US, where he lived in

Swampscott, Massachusetts, with Patrick S. Cryan and his family at 45

Pleasant Street.  (Related, no doubt, but not father and

son).

Patrick Joseph Cryan resided in the Swampscott area until

the 1950s.  He may have moved to Boston although he died in Florida in the

1970s.(Please note that I discovered Patrick's birthplace

(Brogher, County Sligo), by obtaining a copy of his application for (US) Social

Security.  The application also included his parents' names.)

Has anyone come across Patrick Joseph Cryan's parents' names

- John and Annie Cosgrove Cryan?  Also, I am wondering if someone might know

where Brogher is (to save me a phone call to the County Sligo tourist

board!!).I also have a few death/marriage  certificates for Cryans in

various parts of Massachusetts which list parents' names.  Perhaps they might

be useful to someone.

1. Thomas Cryan, born circa 1836 in Ireland.  Parents: 

Connor Cryan and Mary

Scanlon (?)

2.  Mary Cryan, born circa 1869 in Ireland.  Married Thomas

Jordan in Lynn, Mass.

 Mary Cryan's parents:  Thomas Cryan. 

3.  James Cryan, born circa 1803 in Ireland.  Died 1891 in

Taunton, Mass.  Parents:

 Kate and Luke Cryan, Ireland.

Many thanks,Karen McElrath 

 

          

From:        "Michael Tobin" <tobinmi@hotmail.com>  |    Date:        Tue, 25 Jan 2000 17:25:15 PST

 Subject:        [CRYAN] Re: John Cryan and Annie Cosgrove     To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Hello Karen,Brougher is a townland in the parish of Keash (and formerly in the old

parish of Toomour). This is most likely the place that you are

referring to.I haven't come across John Cryan and Annie Cosgrove before. They should

most likely be listed on the 1901 census if their son Patrick Joseph was

born in 1903.The Griffith's Valuation of the 1850's lists a few Cryans and

Cosgrave's in Brougher, renting from Viscount Lorton :-

1. Patrick Cryan

2. James Cosgrave, sen.

3. Roger Cryan

4. James Cosgrave, jun.

[The above 4, along with 6 others, are listed as a group as renting 211

acres, 1 rood and 13 perches, although the rent for each is given

separately. I'm not sure why Griffiths does this - perhaps some of the

other listers can comment.]

5. Bridget Cryan

6. Patrick Cryan, sen.

7. Mary Cryan

8. Patrick Cryan, jun.

9. James Cryan, jun.

10. James Cryan, sen.

[Above 6 listed as a group with 1 other, renting 93 acres of land]

11. Martin Cryan

I think it would be reasonable to assume that the John Cryan and Annie

Cosgrave were connected to the first group above and were from

neighbouring farms. The pre-1900 Church records would most likely give the

connection between these people and John and Annie.

Hope this helps.Best regards,Michael

 

From:        "Michael Tobin" <tobinmi@hotmail.com>  |    Date:        Tue, 25 Jan 2000 17:42:28 PST

 Subject:        [CRYAN] Cryan gathering ??? To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Since 3 or 4 of the list members are based in Ireland, would any of you

be interested in arranging to meet up in Ireland sometime this Summer ??

I think it would be nice to meet up and chat in person about the

genealogy research. I'm not suggesting this as a Cryan convention or anything

like that, as I think that would take a significant amount of time and

effort to setup, with probably a year's notice so that people from other

countries might be able to travel to it if they were already planning on visiting

Ireland.All I have in mind, is an informal get together at which we could meet,

discuss our progress, take along any useful records, photos, history

etc. We might be able to bring along one or two interested relatives also.

If any one is interested, perhaps we could combine it with research in

either Sligo or Boyle libraries. I think we all probably have things we

want to look up there, so having one or the other of these towns as the

venue probably makes sense.

What do you think ?regardsMichael

==== CRYAN Mailing List ====

Surnames being rsrchd: Croidheain, Craigen/Creighan, Crawn/Craun,

Crane, Crean, Craen, Creen-e, Cre(a)g(h)an, Cre(a)han, Cro(u)ghan,

Crain-e, MacCroghan/McCrohan, Crowen, and Cryan-s.

 

   From:        "Roger Cryan" <cryan@avana.net>  |  Subject:        Re: [CRYAN] Re: John Cryan and Annie Cosgrove   Date:        Tue, 25 Jan 2000 21:18:00 -0500     To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Michael,    Could you tell us exactly for what year is your Griffith's listing

forBrougher?  My great-grandfather James is listed in the 1857 Griffiths

as aleaseholder in Ballinanultaugh, Roscommon; but he was married in 1853

inSligo.James' childless eldest son (also James) left the Ballinanultaugh lease

to amore or less distant nephew (another James) from Brogher; so your

listingmight contain family.

As near as I can tell, there were related Cryans that were back and

forthbetween Sligo and Roscommon (all these places are within a few miles of

eachother), depending on where a lease "with the name on it" became

available.Does this make any sense?    Roger Cryan

 

From:        Jill Devito <devito@uta.edu>  |  Subject:        RE: [CRYAN] Cryan gathering ???

   Date:        Wed, 26 Jan 2000 10:48:26 -0600     To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Karen, Michael, and other Ireland travelers,

If you plan a gathering in Ireland (or just want to talk to another

Cryan insearch of his roots), please look up my grandfather, Paul Cryan.  He

wasborn and raised in Massachussetts, and raised his own family in

Connecticut,but a few years ago he fell in love with Ireland and moved there!

Here is his information:

Paul CryanDrumdooMohill, Leitrim011-353-78-32096

paulcryan@eircom.net

 

Date:        Wed, 26 Jan 2000 09:31:37 PST   From:        Karen McElrath <K.McElrath@Queens-Belfast.AC.UK>  |  Subject:        Re: [CRYAN] Cryan gathering ???     To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

re: cryan gathering

michael:  i think your suggestion is an excellent one. 

you and i reside in ireland but perhaps people who reside in

other countries might be planning a trip here anyway.  it

would be great if we could meet at least for a day/night in

sligo or roscommon, the home of several of our ancestors. 

karen

 

Date:        Wed, 26 Jan 2000 09:34:27 PST   From:        Karen McElrath <K.McElrath@Queens-Belfast.AC.UK>  |  Subject:        Re: [CRYAN] Re: John Cryan and Annie Cosgrove     To:

        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

received the following infoyesterday:

RE;1901 CENSUS FOR BROUGHER JOHN CRYAN AGE 24 SISTER BRIDGET

AGE 21; THIS ISMOST PROBABLY YOUR JOHN, THERE WERE ALSO COSGROVES IN

BROUGHER.AT THAT TIMEI BELIEVE THERE WAS TWO OTHER CHILDREN JOHN WHO STAYED WITH THE COSGROVES

AND A MARY WHO WENT WITH PATRICK TO AMERICA THEIR PARENTS

DIED VERY YOUNGJOHN CRYAN MARRIED ABREHENY FROM BEARLOUGH DRUMRAT I HAVE LETTERS FROM THEIR

FAMILYSORRY THAT;S ALL FOR NOW

PATRICK CRYANS WE HAVE BEEN IN TOUGH BEFORE

 

From:        LB3105@aol.com  |    Date:        Wed, 26 Jan 2000 14:01:48 EST

 Subject:        [CRYAN] Cryan Family     To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Subj:   Re: [CRYAN] Re: John Cryan and Annie Cosgrove

Date:   01/26/2000 9:46:56 AM Eastern Standard Time

From:   LB3105To: cryan@avana.net

Roger,

I just read your letter to Michael.  I'm curious as to your James

CRYAN.  My GGrandfather was James CRYAN also.  Could there possibly be a

connection here?Desendants of James Cryan

Generation No. 1

1.  JAMES CRYAN was born Abt. 1838 , Roscommon, Ireland, and died Abt.

1885 in, Co. Roscommon, Ireland.  He married MARY FOLEY Abt. 1868 in

Templevaney, Co.,Roscommon, Ireland..  She was born Abt. 1839,  Ireland,

    Child of JAMES CRYAN and MARY FOLEY  ( this is the only one I knowabout)

2.  i.  ANNE CRYAN, b. April 04, 1869, Boyle, County Roscommon,

Ireland; d. September 19, 1915, Bronx, New York.  I have a copy of my Grandmother's

her birth Certificate.  It states that her father's occupation as a Tailor.

 They were  living in the Townland of Treen, Co. Roscommon, when she was

born?  Not too sure where this would be?

(No further record of additional children born, appears at the Catholic

Church in Boyle after Anne Cryan was born.  Nor sure if they emigrated

to America or moved somewhere else?)

Generation No. 2

2.  ANNE CRYAN (JAMES1) was born April 04, 1869 in Boyle, County

Roscommon, Ireland, and died September 19, 1915 in Bronx, New York.  She married

(1)

FRANCIS JAMES KEANEY Abt. 1893 in Brooklyn, New York City, son of JOHN

KEANEY and MARGARET FLYNN.  He was born June 24, 1861 in Riverstown, County

Sligo,  Ireland, and died November 23, 1937 in Bath, New York.

    Children of ANNE CRYAN and FRANCIS KEANEY are:

    i.  JOHN B KEANEY, b. Abt. 1894, New YorkCity, New York; d. May 14,

1956, New YorkCity, New York.

3.  ii. FRANCIS (FRANK) JAMES KEANEY, JR., b. June 28, 1896, Brooklyn,

New York; d. June 12, 1958, New York City, New York.

    iii.    ELIZABETH (BESSIE) KEANEY, b. August 17, 1898, Manhattan,

New York; d. Unknown, Bronx, New York.

    iv. MARGARET KEANEY, b. 1903, New York, New York; d. June 06, 1920,

New York, New York.

    v.  VALENTINE KEANEY, b. Abt. 1904, New York City, New York; d. New

York City, New York.

    vi. JOSEPH KEANEY, b. 1905, New York City, New York; d. New York

City, New York; m. AGNES ?.

    vii.    GEORGE KEANEY, b. Abt. 1908, New York, New York; d. New

York, New York.

4.  viii.   ANNA ELIZABETH KEANEY, b. November 23, 1910, Bronx, New

York; d. April 14, 1979, Long Island, New York.

Knowing how the Irish named their children, do any of these children's

names look familiar to you? 

I am planning to attend a KEANEY Reunion in 2002 to be held in Co.

Sligo, Ireland.  I is being hosted by the KEANEY's in that area of Ireland &

also Dr. Francis Keaney, who lives in London, England.    Hope to visit the

town of Boyle, Co. Roscommon while I am there.  I know there is a connection

between the two familles.  I found one Aunt named Mary Cryan.  who was

a witness at one of the Keaney's baptism for one of their children. 

Warm Regards,Barbara

 

 

 Reply-to:         "FamSpack" < >    From:         "FamSpack" < >  |     Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 08:47:17 -0000  Subject:

         [CRYAN] LDS website      To:         CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Hi, For those who need the address  ...

http://www.familysearch.org/

Eve

 

 

Reply-to:         "FamSpack" < >    From:         "FamSpack" < >  |     Date:         Thu, 27 Jan 2000 09:08:41 -0000

  Subject:         [CRYAN] Re Cryan Gathering      To:         CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Dear All,I think that a "Cryan Gathering" is a super idea . I especially like

theidea of an informal day set aside in a particular place. However as it

isunlikely that I will be able to attend this year, why not set aside say

(just a random suggestion) the first Saturday in August each year, with

aplace say a pub , to meet each year and then people can plan their

visits toIreland round the date..

I do not like the idea of a "convention" with organised lectures and

visits.......far too costly and overwhelming and a strain on libraries

andother places of interest. A crowd all wanting to look at the same

"historicdocuments" will soon destroy them and the goodwill. I would much prefer

togo to these places in the "off season".

I would however love to meet other CRYANs....... all we need is a date

andplace and time   for a CRYAN DAY.... and hey ho we will attend.........sometime.

Great idea, thank you MichaelEve

 

   From:        RoCryan@aol.com  |    Date:        Thu, 27 Jan 2000 12:24:23 EST

 Subject:        [CRYAN] Re Cryan Gathering     To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Great Idea Michael,  how about at

 <A HREF="http://www.nci.ie/yp/fullpage/y4694.htm">Cryan's Riverside

holidays in ireland accommodation in ireland bed and breakfas</A>

  Rosalie

 

From:        "Michael Tobin" <tobinmi@hotmail.com>  |  Subject:        Re: [CRYAN] Re: John Cryan and Annie Cosgrove   Date:        Thu, 27 Jan 2000 15:44:57 PST     To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Roger,As far as I know, the Griffith's Valuation in Sligo was conducted in

1858. Do you know what year your gran-uncle James left the Ballinanultaugh

lease to the James from Brougher? This might help you to solve the puzzle.

Also, when you say he left the lease to "more or less to a distant

nephew", I'm a little confused as to whether you mean he was a distant cousin or

an actual nephew.You've probably ruled out the following yourself, but here goes. The

name Roger Cryan also shows up in the same group of Cryans in Brougher as 2

James who were jointly renting 211 acres. Is Roger a family name in your

family, handed down from generation to generation ? If so, might it be likely

that this group of people are your relatives given that the name Roger

occurs there and that Roger is not a very common name amongst the Cryans ?

If anyone can explain why some people are listed in bunches in the

Griffith's Valuation, it might help things.

Hope this helps,

Michael

 

 

   From:        "Michael Tobin" <tobinmi@hotmail.com>  |    Date:        Thu, 27 Jan 2000 16:56:54 PST

 Subject:        [CRYAN] RE: Cryan gathering      To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Well, it sounds like a few people might be interested in some sort of

informal get together this year.I like Eve's suggestion of an annual date on which a get together might

take place, so that people who might be travelling to Ireland would know in

advance if they wanted to include it in their itinerary. We could

provisionally say that we'll have it on such a date, and then each year

see if there is sufficient interest in order for it to take place. Even if

only 2 from the list can meet up, I think its still worthwhile.

I also like Rosalie's idea of people staying in Cryan's guesthouse in

Carrick-on-Shannon, which is only a few miles from Boyle and is quite a

scenic place. I have heard good reports of this guesthouse in the past.

I will telephone it to find out what its rates are like and how far in

advance people might need to book it.

The first Saturday in August sounds fine to me as the regular annual

day for a get together, but I see a few disadvantages with it. I think (but am

not 100% certain) that the public libraries may be closed on Saturday. If

that is the case, it might be better to plan it on the first Friday in

August if we wanted to combine the day with a trip to Sligo or Boyle library.

What do others think ? Another factor to take into consideration is that the

first Monday in August is usually a public holiday in Ireland, so that

weekend is a particularly busy weekend. Perhaps the second Friday or Saturday in

August would be better so as to avoid that. Another point is that any weekend

in August is at the height of the tourist season in Ireland. A day in July

would be less busy, in my opinion.

If we can get an informal meeting set up, we'll certainly invite your

grandfather Jill. The more the merrier! I would hope to invite 1 or 2

of my relatives too, who are interested in family history.

I think one or two others on the list, in addition to Karen and myself,

are based in Ireland - so hopefully a few people from the list can meet up.

Any more suggestions or comments on the above?

regardsMichael

 

  Reply-to:         "FamSpack" < >    From:         "FamSpack" < >  |     Date:         Fri, 28 Jan 2000 11:00:37 -0000  Subject:

         [CRYAN] Re CRYAN gathering     To:         CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

It is nice to see an idea develop.Local knowledge make a great deal of

difference.Cryans Inn in Carrick-on-Shannon has a website which , if it is still

theregives an address and telephone number- it also mentions that it is or

was a"singing pub"  !!!Boyle also has a website with links - I got to these through a normal

searchengine.I also agree with Michael that Saturday is perhaps not the best day ,

however it may also be wise to take account of market days., when

accommodation may be full.

My other suggestion is to consider the evening before the CRYAN DAY

when onehas to be staying in the locallity and has to eat, as a "getting to

know youand planning session"   ie chat over meal/drink

I am sure that the time(however many days you set aside)  will fly by

andwill not be long enough so it may well be useful to be flexible.

If Michael is contacting the CRYANS PUB/INN/GUESTHOUSE perhaps they

couldgive times when they are less busy - which may help fixing a date.

I believe someone from the list has actually stayed at this place - I

vaguely remember an early email.Until again Eve

 

    Date:         Fri, 28 Jan 2000 10:42:13 PST    From:         Karen McElrath <K.McElrath@Queens-Belfast.AC.UK>  |  Reply-to:         K.McElrath@Queens-Belfast.AC.UK  Subject:

         [CRYAN] Re: Cryan gathering      To:         CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

michael:  any time in july or august suits me this year as i will not

be going on holiday this year.  is any US member of the list planning to visit

Ireland this summer?  karen  

 

 

   From:        ljstandak@webtv.net (Lyle Staehnke)  |    Date:        Fri, 28 Jan 2000 10:47:18 -0800 (PST) Subject:        [CRYAN] RE: CRYAN gathering     To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Sure sounds good to me,it would be a very good reason to visit Ireland

again. I had the pleasure of visiting at Francis Cryans Inn at the

Carrick on Shannon. Really enjoyed it.     Lyle

 

From:        ljstandak@webtv.net (Lyle Staehnke)  |    Date:        Sat, 29 Jan 2000 11:01:59 -0800 (PST)

 Subject:        Fwd: [CRYAN] Re CRYAN gathering    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Your right Karen,really enjoyed the stay. And Francis Cryan was a joy

tomeet, also met a nice gentleman padrick cryan.. Not sure of the first

name spellings...  Lyle

 

Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 12:46:25 PST

From: Karen McElrath <K.McElrath@Queens-Belfast.AC.UK>

Reply-To: K.McElrath@Queens-Belfast.AC.UK

Old-To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Message-ID: <ECS10001291225B@fujin.qub.ac.uk>

 I believe someone from the list has actually stayed at this place - I

> vaguely remember an early email.> Until again Eve

> was it Lyle who stayed there?karen

 

From:        ljstandak@webtv.net (Lyle Staehnke)  |    Date:        Sat, 29 Jan 2000 11:13:02 -0800 (PST)

 Subject:        [CRYAN] RE:Cryans Inn     To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

This should connect to Cryans Inn

 http://www.nci.ie/yp/fullpage/y4694.htm 

 

From:        ljstandak@webtv.net (Lyle Staehnke)  |    Date:        Sat, 29 Jan 2000 16:40:59 -0800 (PST)

 Subject:        [CRYAN] RE:Cryans Inn      To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

For the record,I never stayed over night at Carrick on Shannon.but

spentseveral hours there and stayed for dinner... At Cryans Inn.....    Lyle

 

From:        RoCryan@aol.com  |    Date:        Sun, 30 Jan 2000 12:04:22 EST Subject:        [CRYAN] Roger?     To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Wasn't it Roger who stayed at Cryans and was wondering if it was

prospering.   It certainly is a singing pub,  when I visited in July'99,  the  hired

musicians allowed  lots of time for the regulars' to serenade myself,

and my first first cousins, Cryan, Pat, Jane and Pam.  Shawn sang all of

"Crying, Over You" to us  among other things.  Rosalie

 

   From:        "Roger Cryan" <cryan@avana.net>  |  Subject:        Re: [CRYAN] Re: John Cryan and Annie Cosgrove   Date:        Sun, 30 Jan 2000 22:43:10 -0500     To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

To Michael and Barabara:

1.  My great great grandfather James Cryan was married to Honor(i)a

Beirne/Byrne in Sligo (Kilfree and Killaragt parish) in 1853.  He shows

upin Ballinanultagh, Boyle, Roscommon, in the Griffith's Valuation for

1857.He was (presumably) dead by the 1901 Census, when Honoria Cryan shows

up asthe head of the household.Their son, another James Cryan, was born in 1859 and married Ann CryanfromBrougher townland in Ballinafad Parish (see below).  I don't know how

closely they may have been related.

When they had no children, they took on Ann's "nephew", another James

Cryan;I don't know the exact relationship, but he was also from Brougher and

probably born about 1915 or 1920.  He also had no children, but his

widowstill lives on the farm (where my great grandfather was born), and his

nephew Joe lives 2 or 3 miles away.

2.  Here is a records problem for this branch of the family: Ballinafad

Parish straddles the Sligo/Roscommon line.  Ballynanultagh (Boyle

Parish) isin Roscommon, but is within spitting distance of Brougher (Ballinafad

Parish, "historical name: Aghanagh").  This means the records, even for

aclose family are split among parishes and between counties.  [By the

way,Kilfree and Killaragt parish was once much larger and may have included

Ballinafad.]

3.  Is this the same Brougher that Micheal is talking about?  I'm a bit

confused about this.

4. Another son of the first James Cryan was my great grandfather,

MartinCryan, born 1861 according to baptism records, 1864 according to

citizenshippapers, 1867 according to what he told his family, 1870 according to

whatthey told the 1920 census taker, and 1875 according to what the family

toldthe undertaker.  Has anyone else on the list dealt with this kind of

nonsense?[He arrived in Boston in 1883, married Margaret Maloney in Lowell,

Massachusetts, USA, in 1893, and died in Lowell in 1936.]

5.  No, I'm afraid Roger was not a name I inherited.  It was my

mother'sidea, and no-one in my immediate family was aware of any previous Roger

Cryans.I am quite interested in your responses.    Roger

 

    Date:         Mon, 31 Jan 2000 00:38:33 PST    From:         Karen McElrath <K.McElrath@Queens-Belfast.AC.UK>  |  Reply-to:         K.McElrath@Queens-Belfast.AC.UK

  Subject:         [CRYAN] Irish genealogy on the www      To:         CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

A new website has links to some very good sites for Irish genealogy.

the website can be found at:     http://www.coiste.com

although it is organised by ex-prisoners, click on 'Links' and then

click on 'Ireland Today' to find the genealogy sites. 

karen

 

Reply-to:         "FamSpack" < >    From:         "FamSpack" < >  |     Date:         Mon, 31 Jan 2000 09:26:57 -0000

  Subject:         [CRYAN] Re James CRYAN dates      To:         CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Yes I have have the problem of different ages being given at different

times. One age on a marriage certificate , he then aged with a

differentbirth date on the 1881 census and put on another 5 years when he died

thefollowing year in 1882.

However one does not get a baptism record before a person was born, so

thatis likely to be the nearest one gets to a date of birth, and in James

caseit is likely that the other dates are incorrect.

There is a circumstance that could account for differing dates and the

datesnot tying up with records.

In many families the naming pattern is tied up with the ancestry and is

intended to honour different members of the previous generations..vis

...eldest son and daughter receiving the paternal grandparents names

and thesecond son and daughter, the maternal granparents' names or vice versa,

thenext children got the parents' names and the aunts and uncles etc.  If

achild died very often the next child to be born was given that name. If

thechild died very young there may be a second of the same name perhaps a

yearor so later. If a child died at say 6 yrs of age, the name may be

repeatedlater in the family.

Conversely, a second child of the same name in a family very often

meantthat the child of the earlier name had died.

In the case of Honoria Byrne's family,I have 8 children Martin(no5)

1861,Hanoria 1863, John 1865 and MaryJane(no 8) b 2 Jan 1870.

There is therefore an outside possibility that the date your Martin

gave hisfamily, could reflect that a second child called Martin had been born

intothe family...but I have not found a record of it.

On the other hand there are other reasons for discrepancies....a person

maylose count of the years if they do not celebrate

birthdays.......wife/girlfriend may be quite a bit younger and he may

wantto be closer in age or the lady's parents may have made it

"convenient"......there may have been advantages like easier

immegrationacceptance if one is of a particular age....jobs may have an age

limit.....etc. etcThis is just intended to be a scheme of lateral

thinking................usually the simplest explanation is the right

one.Happy hunting Eve

 

   From:        RoCryan@aol.com  | Block address   Date:        Thu, 27 Jan 2000 12:24:23 EST

 Subject:        [CRYAN] Re Cryan Gathering     To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Great Idea Michael,  how about at

 <A HREF="http://www.nci.ie/yp/fullpage/y4694.htm">Cryan's Riverside

holidays in ireland accommodation in ireland bed and breakfas</A>

  Rosalie

 

Date:        Mon, 31 Jan 2000 06:50:57 -0800 (PST)   From:        Caoimhghin O Croidheain <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>  | Block address Subject:        [CRYAN] Crehane

     To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

hiJust spotted Crehane on email from Walsh-List. Anytakers????

caoimhghinps I think meeting up would be great and will try my

best to be there.

   From:        "Terry McDaniel" <twmac@goodnet.com>  | Block

address Subject:        John Walsh and/or Judith Cormack   Date:

        Sat, 29 Jan 2000 17:54:14 -0700    To:        WALSH-L@rootsweb.com

My great grandparents are John Walsh and Judith

Cormack.  Her name islistedas Judith Cormack Crehane.  Does anyone know of a

county calledCrehane?Any info is appreciated.  A son, Daniel Walsh was

baptized in theCatholicChurch and the baptisimaal Registar if Cappamore,

County of Limerick,Ireland.Terrie of Prescott Arizona USA

 

Date:        Mon, 31 Jan 2000 09:08:16 -0600   From:        Harvey.Wohlwend@intl.sematech.org  | Block address Subject:        RE: [CRYAN] Re: Cryan gathering     To:

        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.

Karen,

Actually my wife and I will be traveling from the United States to

Ireland thissummer.We will be arriving Dublin on May 28th and departing Dublin on June

11th. Afterspending a couple of days in Dublin our plans are to rent a car and

tour theisland clockwise. We are tentatively planning on reaching Boyle about

June 6thor 7th. I am NOT suggesting the Cryan gathering be scheduled for that

time butwould welcome any travel tips since this is our first time in Ireland.

Our plansare to stay at Bed & Breakfast places. Do we need to make advance

reservationsthat time of year?Best regards,Harvey WohlwendAustin, Texas

ggrandson of Danial Cryan b:1804

 

From:        "John Sheerin" <jsheerin@erols.com>  | Block address   Date:        Mon, 31 Jan 2000 14:32:59 -0500 Subject:        [CRYAN] Re: Cryan Gathering??     To:

        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.co

Having received the following message from Michael Tobin about a "Cryan

Gathering" I would like to add my comments.

My wife and I will be in Ireland from 01 to 20 June this summer and

wouldlove to meet any and all CRYAN family researchers.

Please drop me an email,Thanks and hope to hear from you.

Jake Sheerin, (originally from Lowell Mass.)

Edgewater, Maryland

 

From:   "Michael Tobin" <tobinmi@hotmail.com>  | Block address   Date:        Mon, 31 Jan 2000 15:34:32 PST Subject:        [CRYAN] more on Cryan gathering     To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

I haven't been able to telephone the Cryan pub/restaurant/B&B in

Carrick-on-Shannon yet, and will be travelling for the rest of this

week - so I will contact them at the weekend to enquire when might be the best

time to get bookings there, and what the rates are. It would be nice to have

Cryans as the focal point for the get-together, but I don't think that

the availability of rooms in Cryan's will be a showstopper for whenever we

want to meet. There are loads of guesthouses in Carrick-on-Shannon and one

or two hotels also. Even if we can't get accomodation in Cryan's, we can

always eat and drink there!

>From recent postings to the list, I have compiled the following list

of people who might be available to meet (including myself at the end!) :-

  Karen    - In July or August

  Caoimhin -

  Harvey   - In Ireland from May 28 to June 11.

             Tentative plan to be in Boyle on June 6th or 7th.

  John     - In Ireland from 1 to 20 June

  Michael  - June, July or August

Is there any one else on the list based in Ireland who would be

interested in meeting up ? Is there anyone else outside of Ireland planning on

travelling here in the Summer ? If you post your plans to the list,

perhaps we can organise the gathering to suit people's travel plans.

We probably won't be able to fix a date such that it suits everyone and

for future years, I think we should go with Eve's suggestion of having a

regular day each year on which we would provisionally plan an informal

get-together - so that people outside Ireland can plan around it. For this year, it

would be nice if we could pick the date to suit people who have already made

travel plans.Before suggesting a date, I'll wait to see if anyone else has plans to

be in Ireland this Summer. Then we can decide what to do based on who's

around and on how busy the tourist season might be at that time.

regardsMichael

 

From:        "Michael Tobin" <tobinmi@hotmail.com>  | Block address   Date:        Mon, 31 Jan 2000 15:51:31 PST Subject:        [CRYAN] Re: Brougher townland     To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Roger,I have 2 maps which are part of the Ordnance Survey Discovery series of

maps, and which include the parishes and townlands around Ballymote and

Boyle. Unfortunately, I left them at my mother's house in Sligo when I

was last up there, so I cannot check them at the moment!

Its quite possible that I am incorrect in saying that Brougher is part

of the parish of Keash. It was part of the old parish of Toomour, at least

some of which is now part of Keash.

I did a lookup on the townland database at http://www.seanruad.com/

and it only lists one Brougher in Sligo. It gives the old parish of

Toomour as the parish name.

I know of at least one address that is given as Broher, Ballinafad, but

this does not necessarily mean that its in the parish of Ballinafad as often

times, if a townland is near a town, the name of the town is included

in the postal address as that is where the nearest post office is located.

Perhaps others on the list know the definite answer to this.

Hope this helps.regardsMichael

 

Date:        Mon, 31 Jan 2000 15:54:56 PST   From:        Karen McElrath <K.McElrath@Queens-Belfast.AC.UK>  | Block address Subject: RE: [CRYAN] Cryan gathering     To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Harvey:  i don't know if this visit will be your first to

ireland...i visited here several times before i moved and

never once had any reservations at b & bs.  i found that i

often would spend a few extra days in a particular place and

hated the idea of having to move on before i was ready.  i

always was able to get a place to stay despite having

visited here in july and august, the peak months.  if you

have not been here, my personal favorite is the west coast

of ireland, from kerry to donegal.  just gorgeous.  you

mention that you are renting a car.  there are few

automatics here, so you need to specify that with the rental

car company if you want an automatic.  also, the car

insurance can be high.  my credit card covered all isurance

overseas, as long as i paid with the card.  and remember

that distances are recorded in kilometers in the south (and

miles in the north).  let me know if you plan to make it to

the north i can give you some tips.  no doubt you will have

a wonderful time and return again and again.karen

 

From:        Fatarm@aol.com  | Block address   Date:        Mon, 31 Jan 2000 22:21:46 EST

 Subject:        [CRYAN] MD, VA USA rsrchrs and PBS' 'Touching Evil' & Creegan

     To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Jake's message today reminds me that there are several of us Cryan,

Cregan, et al. researchers here in the mid-Atlantic states.  Maybe a

rendez-vous sometime at an LDS location or the National Archives might be an idea

whose time has come.  If nothing else, it will keep our envy in check for

those of you in Ireland this summer!

Has anyone else noticed in the current Mystery series playing on PBS

that the detective's name is David Creegan?  It's a Brit-production -- just

think!  We now have a fiction character to add to the databases! -Leslie

PBS' website:  www.pbs.org or:   <A

HREF="http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/mystery/programs/evil/index.html">MYSTERY!:Touching Evil</A>

 

From:        Fatarm@aol.com  | Block address   Date:        Mon, 31 Jan 2000 22:59:41 EST

 Subject:        [CRYAN] Sligo Co. webpage on rootsweb     To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

For the Sligo researchers in the crowd:

 <A HREF="http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlsli/index.html">Sligo County

Ireland Index</A> or: <A

HREF="http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlsli/index.html">http://www.rootsweb.c

om/~irlsli/index.html</A>

There are some nice photos of churches and the beginning of Griffith's

for the County, it appears.  -Leslie

 

From:        RoCryan@aol.com  | Block address   Date:        Tue, 1 Feb 2000 15:21:25 EST

 Subject:        [CRYAN] East Coast Cryan Get together     To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Leslie and others,  I was lucky enough to get to Ireland Last July and

know I won't be going again soon.  I'd definately attend  a get together in

Boston and could provide accommodations for several just a quick subway ride

south of boston.   Rosalie

 

Date:         Tue, 1 Feb 2000 21:21:54 PST    From:         Karen McElrath <K.McElrath@Queens-elfast.AC.UK>  | Block address Reply-to:         K.McElrath@Queens-Belfast.AC.UK

  Subject:         Re: [CRYAN] more on Cryan gathering     To:         CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

 

On Mon, 31 Jan 2000 15:34:32 PST Michael Tobin wrote:

michael:  looks like i am the only one for whom june is difficult.  if

so, please settle on a june date anyway.  my mom and my sister are coming over in june

and that's my last working month so it's a bit difficult to take off.  however, i

might still make it  for a june date as sligo/roscommon are only 3 hours away or so.  karen

 

From:        "Kevin J. Crean" <Kevin_J._Crean@HUD.GOV>  | Block address   Date:

        Wed, 2 Feb 2000 11:51:26 -0500 Subject:        [CRYAN] US Eastcoast Cryans Get-together

I am a Long Island, NY Crean who might also be interested in an

east-coastgathering this year or in the future.  I haven't yet made it to the

NationalArchives either, in D.C. or the New York City branch.  A gathering

might be theperfect excuse.

 

 

To:   CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

cc:    (bcc: Kevin J. Crean/CPD/NYN/HUD)

Subject:  [CRYAN] US Eastcoast Cryans Get-together

Leslie,Definitely a good idea to help us not feel too bad about not being with

theothers in Ireland.I live on Long Island and haven't yet had the opportunity to visit the

National Archives in Washington, DC. Boston might also be a good locale

toattract all those Lowell Cryans.

Maureen McCourt Nantista

(my Mom was a Cryan)

Huntington, NY

 

>Jake's message today reminds me that there are several of us Cryan,

Cregan,>et al. researchers here in the mid-Atlantic states.  Maybe a

rendez-vous>sometime at an LDS location or the National Archives might be an idea

whose>time has come.  If nothing else, it will keep our envy in check for

those of>you in Ireland this summer!

From:

        Jill Devito <devito@uta.edu>  | Block address   Date:        Wed, 2 Feb 2000 11:09:51 -0600

 Subject:        [CRYAN] East Coast gathering     To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

If there is a possibility of an East Coast get together, can I put in a

votefor June?   I live in Texas, but if all goes well I will be working in

Albany for six weeks in May and June.Jill

 

Date:        Wed, 02 Feb 2000 12:56:33 -0500   From:        Maureen McCourt Nantista <mornan@nais.com>  | Block address Subject:        [CRYAN] Cryan Gathering

     To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Fellow Listers,Even though it's not likely I'll be making it over this year, I think

thegathering of Cryans is a super idea!!!

While I'm not very familiar with the seasonal weather in Ireland, my

onlyinput is that for future years, all things being equal, you might want

toconsider having it in the spring or fall just to make it a little

easierfor those of us coming from a distance since airline prices and seat

availability can present a problem in July and August.

Also next year the 4th Irish Genealogical Congress is taking place in

Dublin 18-23 September 2001 and some of us will probably be coming to

Ireland at that time. Good luck!! I'm looking forward to meeting you, if not this time, then

certainly in coming years.Maureen McCourt Nantista(my Mom was a Cryan)Huntington, NY

 

From:        Iliktotick@aol.com  | Block address   Date:        Wed, 2 Feb 2000 15:31:03 EST

 Subject:        [CRYAN] A Cregan Here     To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Hi Group:I will be attending my husband's family reunion in DC in July.  I live

in Pittsburgh, however, so it wouldn't be difficult for me to attend a get

together with my cousins anytime of the year.  My only obstacle might

be my job which takes me all over the country.  If I can make it though, I

will be there.Joanne Tyler-TuckerMy Mom was a Cregan

 

From:        Fatarm@aol.com  | Block address   Date:        Wed, 2 Feb 2000 16:57:01 EST

 Subject:        [CRYAN] Creane and Timlin     To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

As advertized on another mailing list, here are some Creane's:

 <A HREF="http://www.seanet.com/~cobra/">Timlin Genealogy</A>

-http://www.seanet.com/~cobra/

click on "RESEARCHED MATERIALS, then CASTLECONNOR"

(Note:  the researche materials button is not always displayed in full,

but was the lowest right hand button of the upper left buttons when I last

looked at this page).-Leslie

 

From:        "Roger Cryan" <cryan@avana.net>  | Block address Subject:

        Re: [CRYAN] Re: Brougher townland   Date:        Wed, 2 Feb 2000 23:27:02 -0500

     To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Michael,    You are probably right about the postal address (Brougher,

Ballinafad).    Do the Brougher listings in Griffiths include any Rorkes?

    Does anyone else know anything about the Brougher Cryans as far

back asthe 1850's? Roger

 

From:        Kmcrehan@aol.com  | Block address   Date:        Thu, 3 Feb 2000 09:26:22 EST

 Subject:        [CRYAN] Crehan     To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Are there any Crehan's out there researching their family tree? I have

not had much luck and would like to find something. I am looking for

Crehan's that came from Woodbrook-Newbridge Co. Galway. Thanks Kerry

 

Date:        Thu, 3 Feb 2000 09:44:47 PST   From:        Karen McElrath <K.McElrath@Queens-Belfast.AC.UK>  | Block address Subject:        Re: [CRYAN] Re: Brougher townland

     To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

michael:  i too am interested in the Brougher Cryans, as i

suspect that my line originated from there.  my first names

are consistent with those found in the Griffith's Valuation.

Also, my ancestors were somehow related to Patrick Cryan of

Swampscott, Mass. who listed his birthplace as Brougher. 

obviously i have more work to do in this respect and will

keep you informed of any relevant data i come across.karen

 

From:        "John Sheerin" <jsheerin@erols.com>  | Block address   Date:

        Fri, 4 Feb 2000 00:11:04 -0500 Subject:        [CRYAN] Re: (CRYAN) Re: Mary Cryand and James Brennan     To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Submitting email on my G/GrandmotherMary Cryan one more time.

Mary  Cryan was born circa 1850 in the Boyle area

and her father was Michael Cryan.   When Mary

married my G/Grandfather James Brennan on

07 Feb 1870 at St. Joseph's Catholic Church in Boyle,

she was living in lower Deerpark, near Boyle.

The witnesses to wedding were Mr. Brennan

and Margaret McManus. She Immigrated to states

probably after husband James Brennan died.

Mary died in Lowell, Mass on  02 MAY 1927,

and was buried on 05 MAY 1927,  at

St. Patrick’s Cemetery, Lowell MA

I don't have any other information on Mary's

family. Anybody got anything on this family?

Thanks for your help,Jake Sheerin

 

Reply-to:         "FamSpack" < >    From:         "FamSpack"  >  | Block address    Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 11:55:07 -0000  Subject:

         [CRYAN] James CRYAN and Honoria BIERNE     To:         CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

 

Hi All,I seems that lots of the Lowell CRYANs are descended from James and

Honoria.As you know I have been transcribing the 1901 census for the Boyle area

fortheLeitrim andRoscommon list.I have now found the following entries

whichwill interest you,particularly those who are interested in the RORKES.

It also is an example of folk having different ages at different times

1901 census

Entry for Ballynanultagh  no 1

Cryan     Honora       Head      60    RC   read only   Farmer   widow

born Co.Ros   speaks Irish and English

Cryan     James          son      30    RC   r & w         Farmer

Unmarried  b Co Ros               E

Cryan     John             son      20    RC   r & w         farmer   

u

b Co Ros               E

Cryan     MaryJane      d         18    RC   r & w           -        

 u

b Co Ros               E

 

Ballynanultagh no 2

O'Rorke   Hugh         Head       70  RC  r & w           Farmer    m

b  Co Ros

              Bridget       wife         53  RC  r & w

m           b  Co Sligo

              John           son         24  RC  r & w           farmer

u            b Co Ros

              Patrick        son         22  RC  r & w           ..

u            b Co Ros

              Maria          d             27  RC  r & w

u            b Co Ros

             Annie           d             25  RC  r & w           ..

u            b Co Ros

(the parents of Hugh are Farrel Rorke and Bridget Wynn.....both

surnames of

various spellings)

 

NOTE according to baptismal records

James CRYAN p James C and Honora Bierne c 2 Oct 1859

therefore he must in 1901 be 41/2 or thereabouts

John CRYAN p James C and Honora Bierne c 30 Aug 1865

therefore he must be 36 or thereabouts

Mary Jane CRYAN p James C and Honora Beirne born 2 Jan 1870

therefore she must be 31 or therabouts

MORAL do not believe all you see or hear, check it out.

If a record exists the person must have beeen alive at the time. They

aremistaken to claim to be younger then the record UNLESS ....as has been

saidbefore....the earlier child died and a later child was given the same

name.In the above family we have christening or birth records for all 8

children of Honora Beirne.

I hope that this helps.There are other Rorkes in the next townland Ballylugnagan.

These will all come to the Leitrim and Roscommon list in the next few

months. The rest of Boyle town is due shortly I missed the 5 Jan

update..Also we hope to be able to enter the workhouse records....paupers

,infirmaryand asylum.....for the viewers to pick out people missing from home at

thetime if the census. Unfortunately only the initial s are given but

there isother info like age, infirmity and townland in some cases.

http://www.leitrim-roscommon.com ...........click on this to enter the

siteHappy hunting Eve

PS having looked at Roger's mail re James' I had better give all the

children of James CRYAN and Honora Bierne m 8Feb 1853 in Gurteen RC

 

1. Michael christened/baptised 5 Nov 1854

2. Bridget(called Delia in Lowell) c 24 Feb 1856

3. Anne c 13 Dec 1857

4  James c 2 Oct 1859

5  Martin c 29 Sept 1861

6.  Hanoria c 22 Nov 1863

7   John born 17 Aug 1865

8.  MaryJane born 2 Jan 1870

 

>From the info that has been passing around re Lowell , obituaries and

suchMichael, Bridget and Martin went to Lowell and their family trees can

beconstructed from the obituary information....without looking it up

againthey mention the family left at home

One of the children of these is mentioned as living in Swampscot so I

suggest that there is probably a dynasty there. Does that include Tom?

In my mails I have also heard of a Michael who lived in Woonsocket MA

atabout the turn of the century, with several daughters who could have

beensecretaries. Has anyone else heard of these folk?Eve

 

 

From:        SCK32160@aol.com     Date:        Wed, 9 Feb 2000 13:30:57 EST Subject:

        [CRYAN] Creans from Sligo     To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Hi Everyone,,I am new to this list.  I am seeking genealogical connections for my

Great-Greatgrandmother Catherine Crean from Tawnalaughta, Sligo.  I

know she married William Farris in 1866 and had children, James 1867, Honoria

1870 Thomas, William, Catherine, Mary Ann, Michael (Mickey) and the youngest

Margaret 1887 (My Great-grandmother.)  I have no definitive answers on

Catherine Crean's parents or siblings.  From what I see there were no

Creans on Griffith's from Tawnalaughta.  Any info on possible Crean relations

from the is welcome.

Related Family names- Farris, Crean, Brady, Murray, Egan.    Thank you,                                                             ChrisKennedy  NY US

 

Date:        Wed, 9 Feb 2000 12:59:42 PST   From:        Karen McElrath <K.McElrath@Queens-Belfast.AC.UK>  | Block address Subject:        Re: [CRYAN] James CRYAN and Honoria BIERNE

From:        "Michael Tobin" <tobinmi@hotmail.com>  |  Subject:        Re: [CRYAN] Re: Brougher townland   Date:        Wed, 09 Feb 2000 16:51:01 PST     To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

RogerI had a quick scan of the Griffith's listing for the townland of

Brougher and then for the whole parish of Toomour and it does not list any

Rorke's as far as I can see.regardsMichael

 

>From: "Roger Cryan" <cryan@avana.net>>To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

>Subject: Re: [CRYAN] Re: Brougher townland>Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 23:27:02 -0500

>>Michael,>     You are probably right about the postal address (Brougher,

>Ballinafad).>     Do the Brougher listings in Griffiths include any Rorkes?

>     Does anyone else know anything about the Brougher Cryans as far

back >as>the 1850's?>             Roger

 

>From:        "Roger Cryan" <cryan@avana.net>   Subject:   Re: [CRYAN] James CRYAN and Honoria BIERNE   Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 23:28:41 -0500     To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Eve,    Why do you have James and Honora as married in Gorteen?  The record

Igot in Sligo said Kilfree and Killaragt parish.  Have you seen more

specificinformation?  Roger

>EveFrom:        "Roger Cryan" <cryan@avana.net>  | Subject:    Re: [CRYAN] James CRYAN and Honoria BIERNE   Date:        Wed, 9 Feb 2000 23:34:17 -0500     To:  CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

And, I'd also point out again that, according to my information:

Mary Jane came to America (Lowell), apparently after the 1901 census,

because my Grandfather (born 1899) remembered her.

She went back to Ireland.  [Many Irish that came to America returned.]

She never married.

 

From:        JudyBruce@aol.com  | Date:        Thu, 10 Feb 2000 00:14:14 EST Subject:        [CRYAN] Cryan's Lowell, Ma.>Woonsocket, RI     To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Eve and others interested.

I descend down from Michael Cryan 5 Non 1854 who was the son of James

and Honoria Cryan. He married Ellen Meehan in Lowell, Ma. and sometime

after his 6 children  were born in the late 1800's he removed from Lowell and

came to Woonsocket, RI.. The family stayed there for a few years and around

1915-20 left Woonsocket and moved to Columbus, Ohio area. Family history said

he went there at the request of his son James, who was an electrician, and was

already living there. So Michael and Ellen and rest of their immediate

family left. Two daughters remained in Woosocket. They were  Mary Honora Cryan

who married John F. Reilly of Woonsocket and Francis L. Cryan who married

Leo P. Duplisses.

The 6 children all born in Lowell, Ma. were:

Mary Honora    6 Dec 1884 (married the Reilly; had 5 children)

Anne T.           Sep 1886  (never married; worked but not sure ofoccupation)

James             May 1888 (electrician) (Cannot locate any info onhim)

                      Family history said  he moved maybe to the Toledo/Detroit area????

Ella M.             28 Dec 1889 (never married; occupation privatesecretary)

Frances L.        5 Aug 1894 (married the Duplisses; no issue)

William H.         15 Nov 1895 (was told never married but obit sayswas a widower)

Still looking for the son James who moved away from Columbus. He

supposedly donated all the electrical wiring for St. Francis Hospital in Columbus

which has since been torn down.Hope this helps someone.judybruce@aol.com

 

From:        "Michael Tobin" <tobinmi@hotmail.com   Date:        Fri, 11 Feb 2000 00:21:50 PST

 Subject:        [CRYAN] Records for the Lorton Estate     To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

I mentioned in a previous posting that I had the opportunity to visit

the National Library in Dublin. Here, one of the main tasks I set myself

was to look at the Lorton estate records, which cover parts of Boyle in Co.

Roscommon and parts of Keash in Co. Sligo. Unfortunately I did not have

near enough time to look at the records in the level of detail which I had

hoped. My initial plan was to note down details of all Cryans or variants of

the name, but it turned out that I would have needed 3 or 4 hours to do

this. As it was, I only had 1 hour.

I have listed the information which I noted below. Some observations :-

1. If possible, can people on the list 'claim' their relatives on the

list of Lorton tenants below - it will help identify who's who in the Lortontenants.

2. I don't think I've uncovered much additional information to what we

already knew from Griffith's. Most of the leases below date from 1859,

which would also be covered by Griffith's. Its unclear to me as to why

Lorton's records only started here for the Keash townlands. They start earlier

for other townlands. Its possible that the land only came into his

possession then, or that the Griffith's Valuation triggered a renegotiation of

leases (unlikely if the leases were set in law), or that the depopulation of

the area in the Famine triggered a reallocation of leases. Its possible

also that there are some other Lorton lease books around which covered the

earlier years - although I didn't come across them.

3.  In several places below, I note that other names or words were

written on the lease book in a different style of handwriting. There were only

2 styles of handwriting used throughout. The main style was a caligraphy

style, done extremely neatly in pen, while the later style was done

roughly in pencil. One comment had a date of 1871 opposite the rough style -

this may mean that all of those comments date around then.

4. In several places, where a second name is written under the name of

the tenant, it most likely means that this person took over the lease. In

most cases, I feel that this most likely indicate that the second person was

a son or daughter of the first. I would be interested in hearing if

anyone else on the list has details to specifically support this for the

tenants listed as if possible, I would like to figure out exactly who is who

amongst all these Lorton tenants.

5. As with Griffith's, most of the Cryans listed are in the townlands

of Carrowcrory, Brougher and Derrygolagh. These 3 townlands look to all

border each other on an Ordnance Survey map, in the shape of a triangle.  This

could suggest they are all originally of the one extended family, and

all settled in this triangle of land when they came to the area.

6. Apologies to those on the list whose Cryans are not from the area I

list. Hopefully I or someone else on the list will get the opportunity again

to go through the Lorton lease books, confirm what I have noted, and add

further to it for Cryans in the Boyle area.

The following are the details which I noted down :-

Boyle

*****

Tenant: Matthew Cryan

Location: Eaton's Lane

Renting: House and Plott, 4 acre 1 rood 30 perches

 

The Carlingford Estate (not sure why its called this - possibly its

previous

owner??)

*****************

Tenant:  Matthew Cryan

Location: Toniponra

Renting: 14a 3r 20p

Date: 10 Nov 1848

[Underneath Matthew's name was the name of John Cryan in different

hand-writing. These people are my ancestors, with John being Matthew's

son.

I previously had verbal information that John may have rented a

different plot in the same townland, but this appears to confirm that there was a

direct inheritance of the lease from his father Matthew.

A previous entry for Toniponra listed a Robert Powell as renting 123

acres in Toniponra and Lecarrugh, with a note that the tenant was ejected on

1 May 1847. As Griffith's indicated Toniponra as only 106 acres and does not

list Lecarraugh, I'm assuming Lecarraugh was just a small part of a

neighbouring townland and that all of Toniponra was rented by Powell. Question then

is whether Powell sub-let that land to other tenants, including my Matthew

Cyran, prior to 1848 or whether Matthew Cyran and the other tenants

were allocated the lease after Powell was ejected.]

 

The Elphin Estate

**************

Tenant: Daniel Cryan

Location: Tully

Renting: 11a 1r 2p

Date: 1 Nov 1849

 

Tenant: Dan Costello

Location: Tully

Renting: 23a 1r 14p

Date: 1 Nov 1847

Observation: Leased to Pat Cryan

 

Tenant: Daniel Cryan

Location: Carrowcrory

Renting: 7a 2r 5p

Date: 1 Nov 1859

 

Tenant: Pat Cryan

Location: Carrowcrory

Renting: 10a 3r 15p

Date: 10 Nov 1859

 

Tenant: Mary Cryan

Location: Carrowcrory

Renting: 13a 0r 11p

Date: 10 Nov 1859

 

Tenant: John Cryan

Location: Carrowcrory

Renting: 16a 0r 16p

Date: 10 Nov 1859

[Underneath John's name was Bridget C., in different handwriting]

 

Tenant: Michael Cryan

Location: Carrowcrory

Renting: 18a 0r 28p

Date: 1 Nov 1859

[In 1871, rented additional 8a r2 21p which had previously been rented

to Pat Cryan (child)]

 

Tenant: Michael Cryan (child)

Location: Carrowcrory

Renting: 14a 3r 7p

Date: 1 Nov 1859

 

Tenant: Pat Cryan (child)

Location: Carrowcrory

Renting: 8a 2r 21p

Date: 1 Nov 1859

[see earlier note re this plot later being rented by Michael Cryan]

[Note in Griffith's Michael, Michael and Pat are listed as a group.

That coupled with the info here that they were children, suggests that they

were father and sons]

 

Tenant: Thomas Cryan (King)

Location: Carrowcrory

Renting: 9a 1r 0p

Date: 1 Nov 1859

[followed by Michael McLoughlin rented the land from 1 Nov 1872, with

note that Thomas Cryan "paid no rent at all"]

[I wonder does the "King" name in brackets after Thomas' name suggest

that he was someway connected to Lord Lorton's family which was King-Harman.

Maybe that's why he got away with paying no rent for 13 years!]

 

Tenant: Pat Cryan

Location: Brougher

Renting: 7a 3r 34p

Date: 1 Nov 1859

Observation: I suspect the contents given here includes 2r 38p of

Carrowcrory.

[Underneath Pat Cryan's name, was written the name of Thomas C. indifferent handwriting ]

 

Tenant: Pat Cryan (Red)

Location: Brougher

Renting: 9a 3r 35p

Date: 1 Nov 1859

 

Tenant: Bridget Cryan

Location: Brougher

Renting: 1a 2r

Date: 1 Nov 1859

 

Tenant: James Cryan (Black)

Location: Brougher

Renting: 7a 5r 13p

Date: 1 Nov 1859

 

Tenant: James Cryan

Location: Brougher

Renting: 11a 1r 4p

Date: 1 Nov 1859

[In different hand-writing underneath name, was written the word "Andy"or "Auby". I'm pretty sure the first letter was "A" and the last letterwas "y"]

 

Tenant: Pat Cryan

Location: Brougher

Renting: 10a 19r 16p

Date: 1 Nov 1859

[In different hand-writing underneath name, was the word "Ward"]

 

Tenant: James Cryan

Location: Brougher

Renting: 6a 2r 17p

Date: 1 Nov 1859

[In different hand-writing underneath name, was the word "Red"]

 

Tenant: Martin Cryan

Location: Derrygolagh

Renting: 5a 0r 25p

Date: 1 Nov 1859

 

Tenant: James Cryan

Location: Derrygolagh

Renting: 7a 1r 0p

Date: 1 Nov 1859

 

Tenant: Pat Cryan

Location: Derrygolagh

Renting: 21a 3r 15p

Date: 1 Nov 1859

 

Tenant: Thomas Cryan

Location: Derrygolagh

Renting: 7a 2r 35p

Date: 1 Nov 1859

 

Tenant: James Cryan

Location: Derrygolagh

Renting: 8a 2r 11p

Date: 1 Nov 1859

[In different hand-writing underneath name, was the name "Pat C"]

 

Tenant: Pat Cryan

Location: Derrygolagh

Renting: 6a

Date: 1 Nov 1859

 

Tenant: Matthew Cryan

Location: Derrygolagh

Renting: 19a 1r 10p

Date: 1 Nov 1859

 

 

"FamSpack" < >    From:  "FamSpack" < >  |  Date:

         Fri, 11 Feb 2000 09:38:08 -0000  Subject:  [CRYAN] Lorton Estate    To: CRYAN-

 Thank you so much Michael , that looks like gold.

There are several comments

Though I have no proof as yet but it will come, I am sure, I lke to

claimDaniel Cryan as my gggrandfather John's brother. Having been through

quite afew PRs I have not found any other Daniel's of the correct age.

These plots can be tied up with 1901 census info which gives some of

thechildren

Lecarragh or Lecarrow is athe name of a townland I should think. There

isone about one mile to the SE of Ballinafad and there is also one near

thejunction of the River Boyle with the NE corner of L Gara on the E side.

The names Carlingford and Elphin Estate must be subdivisions of the

LortonEstate ie separate plots of land probably acquired at different times.

Theremay be historic reasons for the names eg Lord Carlingford was strapped

forcash so sold off this plot ,and hence the name ....It would be

interestingto know.Thanks again Eve

 

Date:        Sat, 12 Feb 2000 08:25:37 -0500   From:"Joe j. crogan" <JoeCrogan@compuserve.com>  |

 Subject:        [CRYAN] E-Mail address change     To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

We have left the Compuserve community for AOL.  Please change your

records. I am at JoeCrogan@aol.com   Thanks  Joe

 

From:     MFRowley@aol.com  |   Date:    Sun, 13 Feb 2000 09:38:29 EST Subject:        [CRYAN] Re: I need some assistance    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

I have been trying for more than a week to uns*bscribe from this list.

I have tried the commands in the FAQ, I have tried going to the web page, I

have tried everything I can think of, but still I get the digests. Please

help me get off. They are a very painful reminder of my husband, who deserted

us a few months ago.Thank you.

 

Date:             Mon, 07 Feb 2000 19:30:18 -0500       From:             Carol Russell tweetybird1@sympatico.ca>  | Block address    Reply-to:             tweetybird1@sympatico.ca

 Organization:             Home Computer     Subject:             ELLIS ISLAND WALL

         To:             WALSH-L@rootsweb.com

 

The following is the answer I received from Ellis island people

regarding a querry I ask about a couple of names. I am pleased with

their response.  Carol

We apologize for the delay in responding to your email.  Due to the

overwhelming amount of email we've received lately, we were unable to

respond as quickly as we would have liked. Thanks for your patience.

Elizabeth Corrigan Welch was submitted by Evelyn M. Henry of Staten

Island,NY.

John Welch was submitted by Margaret C. Welsh of Glen Oaks, NY.

The Statue of Liberty-Ellis Island Foundation (R) does not currently

maintain genealogical records.  If a person immigrated through New York

Harbor between 1892-1924, those records should be accessible in the

firstphase of  The American Family Immigration History Center (R) in early

2001.Future plans include expanding the database to include additional years

andports of entry. In addition, a computer printout on a listing  will be

available as well as a reproduction of the actual page in the manifest

and apicture of the ship of passage. We plan to make this information

accessibleover the Internet.

In the meantime, you can start your search through information

availableatthe National Archives (www.nara.gov).

 Please visit our News Page located at www.wallofhonor.com for more

information regarding the center.

You can also refer to the "Related Links and Publications" page on our

website, www.wallofhonor.com. There you'll find "Other Sites of

Interest"which includes links to genealogy sites among others.

Many thanks for your interest.

Donor ServicesThe Statue of Liberty-Ellis Island Foundation (R)

We apologize for the delay in responding to your email.  Due to the

overwhelming amount of email we've received lately, we were unable to

respond as quickly as we would have liked. Thanks for your patience.

Elizabeth Corrigan Welch was submitted by Evelyn M. Henry of Staten

Island,

NY.

John Welch was submitted by Margaret C. Welsh of Glen Oaks, NY.

The Statue of Liberty-Ellis Island Foundation (R) does not currently

maintain genealogical records.  If a person immigrated through New York

Harbor between 1892-1924, those records should be accessible in the

firstphase of  The American Family Immigration History Center (R) in early

2001.Future plans include expanding the database to include additional years

andports of entry. In addition, a computer printout on a listing  will be

available as well as a reproduction of the actual page in the manifest

and apicture of the ship of passage. We plan to make this information

accessibleover the Internet.

In the meantime, you can start your search through information

available atthe National Archives (www.nara.gov).

 Please visit our News Page located at www.wallofhonor.com for more

information regarding the center.

You can also refer to the "Related Links and Publications" page on our

website, www.wallofhonor.com. There you'll find "Other Sites of

Interest"which includes links to genealogy sites among others.

Many thanks for your interest.Donor ServicesThe Statue of Liberty-Ellis Island Foundation (R)

 

 

"Michael Tobin" <tobinmi@hotmail.com>  | Block address     To:        caoimhghin@yahoo.com

    CC:        tobinmi@hotmail.com Subject:        meeting up   Date:        Sun, 20 Feb 2000 16:55:34 PST

Hello Kevin,I'm still trying to set up a meeting in Ireland of some of the list

members this year.

I'm hoping to be able to find a time that suits you, Karen McElrath and

myself. If this time coincides with any visits by other members of the

list to Ireland, great!I'm looking at finding a day in June, July, August or September in

which to meet. Is there any particular time that might suit you better than

others. I'm also thinking of going for a Friday so that libraries etc are open

where ever we meet.

Two of the US-based members of the list are travelling over here in

June, but currently it doesn't look like June suits Karen. I'm not sure

either if the itinerary's of the US people will be such that they both could meet

at the same time. So what I'm thinking is that I'll try to set up a

meeting between the 3 Irish members of the list and perhaps meet the US people

individually if possible.

I'm also unsure whether to meet in Dublin or in Carrick-on-shannon.

Carrick would be good if people wanted to tour around the locality, but Dublin

would be better from a research perspective. Dublin in June might suit Karen

also - but I'll need to double-check with her.

Anyway, let me know what you think of all this and when it might suit

you to meet up.best regardsMichael

 

From:        Fatarm@aol.com     Date:        Mon, 28 Feb 2000 12:58:37 EST Subject:

        [CRYAN] Creagan posting on message board     To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Can a Creagan / Cregan connection be made?

 <AHREF="http://www.familyhistory.com/messages/showmsg.asp?id=980226">FamilyH

istory.com - Message Boards</A> or 

http://www.familyhistory.com/messages/showmsg.asp?id=980226

I've emailed him about our mailing list.  -Leslie

 

From:        Fatarm@aol.com  | Date:        Wed, 1 Mar 2000 16:38:27 EST Subject:        [CRYAN] Cryan postings on message boards - Lowell?     To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Recently these were posted to FamilyHistory.com message boards:

http://www.familyhistory.com/messages/showmsg.asp?forumid=9414&msgnum=8

  OR    <A REF="http://www.familyhistory.com/messages/showmsg.asp?forumid=9414&msgnum=8"

>FamilyHistory.com - Message Boards</A>

Looking for any information on walter Francis Cryan, originally from

Lowell, Mass .

I was born a cryan father from Lowell, via canada I beleive, had two

brothers, one Thomas, One edward,

http://www.familyhistory.com/messages/showmsg.asp?forumid=9414&msgnum=10

   OR     <A

HREF="http://www.familyhistory.com/messages/showmsg.asp?forumid=9414&msgnum=10

">FamilyHistory.com - Message Boards</A>

The messages were fragmented, might be from inexperienced computer

user.  Nonetheless, I thought the Lowell Cryan researchers might be interested

-Leslie

 

From:        Voltene@aol.com  |    Date:        Wed, 1 Mar 2000 21:05:55 EST Subject:        [CRYAN] Lowell, MA/ Delia Cryan, Daughter of James &        Honoria(Bierne) Cryan

     To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Hello to the List,

        Brothers   Martin and   Michael Cryan    were not the only

children of James and Honoria (Bierne) Cryan that came to Lowell, MA.

        Their sister Delia (Bridget) Cryan,     born c. 24 February

1856 in Boyle, Roscommon,  Ireland     came to America about 1881.

        On May 25, 1886  Delia Cryan married George A. Kinney in

Lowell, MA..They stayed here and raised their family:

Children:

       Theresa M,   born    15 Jan 1887

             married     Thomas Keane

        Elizabeth,    born   about 1888

              married     John H. McGuigan

        Alice W.,     born    15 Nov. 1892

               married    William Burns

        George P.,   born   14 March 1895

                married   Katherine Mary McAndrew

         Annie,         born    about 1897

                 married   Raymond Chandler

 

 

Came across something very interesting in the 1900 federal census for

Lowell, MA.

Living in the Kinney household were 2 boarders:

      Winnifred Brennan,  born  abt Jan 1876, age 24,   1 child,   1

child alive, born...Ireland     (cannot make out whether Married or  Widowed,

  Divorced. --written over)  whatever...   4 yrs.,  emigrated 1894

       Mary Sullivan,  born  July 1896,  age 3,  born...MA

       I have doing some lookups for Jake Sheerin on his   Brennan

families.   I believe this Winifred Brennan is the daughter of  James and Mary

(Cryan) Brennan  and Mary Sullivan is the daughter of Winifred and  (?).

       Could there be a connection with his Cryan family and James &

Honoria Cryan?       The connection could go back to Ireland  and may not be found

here in America.

       Jake's  Feb. 4, 2000  posting  to the Cryan list    listed Mary

Cryan Brennan's father as Michael Cryan.  Would  he know her mother's name?

Would be great if we could find a connection!Karen Murphy

 

Reply-to:         "FamSpack" < >    From:         "FamSpack" < >  | Block address    Date:         Thu, 2 Mar 2000 09:12:17 -0000

  Subject:         [CRYAN] Delia/Bridget Cryan Kinney      To:         CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

It was suggested to Jake Sheerin some time ago that the wife of Michael

Cryan and mother of Mary Cryan Brennan was Rosa Kenny or Heany(two

separateentries)(and birth record given to him) .This could give a connection

withGeorge Kinney......names frequently having an altered phonetic spelling

onentry into USA.EveDate:

     

 Fri, 3 Mar 2000 08:17:33 -0800 (PST) From:       cian mccormack <cianmccormack@yahoo.com>  | Block address   To:       caoimhghin cryan <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>

I was at a district court in Nenagh. I came acrossanother Kevin Cryan. It might be of interest to you.

From Cian

 

From:         "A. Riley" <ariley@ltp.org>  | Date:         Fri, 3 Mar 2000 11:12:43 -0600  Subject:

         [CRYAN] CRYAN-L -- more on John & Atty Cryan from Drumraine,         1840s

      To:         CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Hello, Cryans --

-- Thought I'd pass on some new clues my cousin Pam and I have

gathered.

-- On the genforum Cryan message board, there is someone asking about a

Brigid Cryan who married Cormack Carroll on February 2, 1848, at Boyle.

Their kids were: Brigid 1849, James 1850, James 1851, Margaret 1853,

Jane1855, Brigid 1857, and Winifred 1862; the family lived at Garrow. I

wonderif her Brigid might be my Atty's oldest daughter, who didn't come to

Americawith the rest of the family in 1848. The timing is right, and some of

thenames repeat: A couple of Atty's kids were named James and Winifred.

(And Iplugged the Cryan-L list, too!)

 

-- Pam (hi, Pam!) received an old letter from another cousin (hi,

Elizabeth!) with some more information about our ancestor. It's not

clearwho wrote this up or when, and we aren't sure how accurate this info

may be(there are some things that we know are garbled), but we'd appreciate

anyinput. Here's part of the letter. My comments are in [brackets].

-- John Crain and his wife Atty (nee McDonaugh) lived in Drumraine,

CountySligo, Prov. of Connaught, Ireland [we know Atty was baptized at

Aghanaghand they were married at Boyle -- still not quite sure where Drumraine

is].He was employed in a bank [is there a bank in Boyle or Riverstown that

wouldhave employed a Catholic in the 1840s?]  One week-end he spent a

Holiday ona farm and died of sun-stroke [this was during the Famine -- would

peoplehave been taking weekend holidays?], leaving a widow and 8 children

[and weknow the kids had all been baptized at Taunaugh]. Previously his

brotherMark [aha! We hadn't heard of a brother before!] had emigrated to the

U.S.and had sent for the two older girls, Sarah and Winifred, to join him

inBoston. Atty and the remaining 8 children emigrated to the U.S. in

1848,anding in Boston.  It took them eight weeks to make the crossing in a

sailing vessel, the last three days without drinking water. [Anyone

hear ofa voyage like that?] In Ireland, Mrs. Crain's money was considerable

butupon arriving in the U.S. found it wouldn't go far.  She opened a

boardinghouse in Boston.  In 1855, with her brother-in-law Mark, they moved to

afarm in Rosendale, Wis. [Rosendale is in Fond du Lac County, near

Eldorado.I have found no evidence of Mark in Rosendale so far, but have seen

someonenamed Edward. Maybe another brother?] Two sons, James and Michael,

stayed inthe east, settling in Leominster, Mass. [We'd seen Atty and the kids on

the1850 census in Leominster, with the name spelled Crane.] Later Atty

bought afarm in Eldorado, Wis. She was born in Lascarrow, Sligo, Ireland, 1805

anddied 1/20/1880, buried in St. Mary's Cemetery, Eldorado, Wis [on her

gravestone, her name was spelled Crain and her birthplace was spelled

Lecarrow].We've gathered lots of information on what happened to the family once

theygot to Eldorado (they flourished), but have no knowledge of John's or

Atty'sforebears except her parents' names (Timothy McDonough and Aracte

Walsh), orof the other kids who didn't go to Wisconsin, Brigid who stayed in

Irelandand James & Michael who stayed in Leominster.

That's what we've got so far!Audrey Rileya proud descendant of Atty Cryan

ariley@ltp.org

 

Date:        Fri, 3 Mar 2000 10:25:03 -0800 (PST)   From:        Caoimhghin O Croidheain <caoimhghin@yahoo.com Subject:        [CRYAN] THOMAS CYRAN + site

     To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

hiAfter the Rising in 1916 the captured militants were

sent to Frongoch Camp in Wales.In Frongoch: University

of Revolution by Sean O Mahony, there is a list of

1,804 names of inprisoners INCLUDING

Co. Roscommon.

Cyran [sic],Thomas, Boyle

It mentions that many names are misspelt.Any takers?

I put new buttons my site and just discovered that

they do not appear in full on all browsers. If anyone

is looking at the site and there are problems please

let me know what they are.I am very busy at the moment

trying to finish my thesis but I will sort out any

problems in a couple of weeks. caoimhghin

ps my thanks to those who left comments in the

guestbook.

 

SCK32160@aol.com     Date:        Fri, 3 Mar 2000 16:22:32 EST Subject:        Re: [CRYAN] THOMAS CYRAN + site     To:        caoimhghin@yahoo.com

Hi

I saw in a reply concerning a Thomas Cryan a list mentioned.  Is that

list available on line or do we need the book?  I am looking for family who

were involved in the 1916 uprising.  I am looking for members of my Kennedy

family that were from Pallasgreen, LimerickRegards Chris Kennedy

 

,Reply-to:         <ariley@ltp.org>    From:         "A. Riley" <ariley@ltp.org>  | Date:         Fri, 3 Mar 2000 16:29:39 -0600  Subject:         [CRYAN] CRYAN-L: Answers on John Cryan, Drumraine, 1840s!

      To:         CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

 

I posted my query on the Lietrim-Roscommon BBS, and here are the

answers Igot today -- including yet another way to spell the name! Aghanagh is

whereour ancestor Atty McDonough Cryan was baptized (Eve of this list got us

thatinformation, and lots more, too, for which we are always grateful!).

-- from Sean: Aghanagh parish was and is in Co. Sligo. There were 30

othertownlands in the parish including Ballinafad. So that's where you look

forrelatives. The townland spelling has changed a little (not uncommon)

and youcan find in the phonebook Thomas Cryan, Aughanagh, Ballinafad, Tel

79-66138;and Mrs. Mary McDonagh, Ballinafad, Public Health Nurse at 79-66008.

Bothare most likely your folk.

-- from John: Some Aghanagh & Aghanagh RC Parish records are on LDS

microfilms 989737 and 989739. The following have been extracted and are

listed on the 1998 LDS  British Isles Vital Records Index CDs. If you

checkthe film it will show sponsors and just might have the townland. There

maybe other records still to be extracted.

.Note the spelling variations. Given names are in Latin, or at least the

priest's idea of Latin.

-- Here's John's baptism!!!! The name was spelled different AGAIN!

CRIEN, Joannes Christening

 Sex: Male  Christening Date: 16 May 1804 Recorded in: Roman Catholic, Aghanagh,

Sligo, Ireland    Father: Lucas CRIEN

  Mother: Winefrida BRENAN

 Source: FHL Number 989739 Dates: 1803-1864

-- Here's John & Atty's marriage, which Eve had given us before.

CRYAN, Johanem   Marriage

 Wife: Aractam MCDONAGH

 Marriage Date: 14 Mar 1825 Recorded in: Roman Catholic, Boyle,

Roscommon,Ireland

Source: FHL Number 989743 Dates: 1792-1863

-- Here's Atty's baptism, which Eve had given us before.

MC DONOUGH, Aracte Christening

 Sex: Female

  Christening Date: 4 Jul 1804 Recorded in: Roman Catholic, Aghanagh,

Sligo,Ireland

    Father: Timotheus MC DONOUGH

  Mother: Aracte WALSH

 Source: FHL Number 989739 Dates: 1803-1864

.-- A sister for Atty! This is news to us!

MC DONAGH, Anna Christening

 Sex: Female

  Christening Date: 27 Feb 1817 Recorded in: Roman Catholic, Aghanagh,

Sligo, Ireland

    Father: Timotheus MC DONAGH

  Mother: Attia WALSH

 Source: FHL Number 989739 Dates: 1803-1864

-- A brother for John! He's news too. Darn, I wish the first name was

there!CRIEN,   Christening

 Sex: Male

  Christening Date: 11 Apr 1807 Recorded in: Roman Catholic, Aghanagh,

Sligo, Ireland

    Father: Lucas CRIEN

  Mother: Winifreda BRENAN

 Source: FHL Number 989739 Dates: 1803-1864

All the best,A. Rileyanother proud descendant of Atty Cryan

ariley@ltp.org

 

From:

        ljstandak@webtv.net (Lyle Staehnke)  | Date:        Fri, 3 Mar 2000 15:11:08 -0800 (PST)

 Subject:        [CRYAN] RE:Cryan & McDonagh     To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

I wouldn`t know how this might fit in,but Danial Cryan (Born  1804)

married Margaret McDonagh their son was christen Martin Cryan Jan 7th

1824 Boyle Parish, dau. Margarita dec. 26 1826 and Joanem sep.7th

1829...... Lyle

 

From:        "Michael Tobin" <tobinmi@hotmail.com>  | Date:        Fri, 03 Mar 2000 17:17:15 PST Subject:        [CRYAN] Re: Answers on John Cryan, Drumraine, 1840s!

     To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

 

Hello Aubrey,Thank you for posting all of your new information to the list.

I find it absolutely fascinating and am delighted that you are making

such great progress.regards Michael

 

 

From:        Fatarm@aol.com  | Block address   Date:        Sat, 4 Mar 2000 21:42:25 EST

 Subject:        [CRYAN] Crean posting     To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

The following was recently posted under the Crean surname at the

following

website:

http://www.familyhistory.com/messages/showmsg.asp?id=1025744

"My great grandmother Hanora Crean was born somewhere in County Kerry

in 1876. She settled in Holyoke, MA "

I've gone ahead and left instructions on how to subscribe to our

mailing list, but if you have a connection, you may wish to leave a message on

this website as well.  -LeslieFrom:

       

Fatarm@aol.com  | Date:        Sat, 4 Mar 2000 22:06:43 EST Subject:        [CRYAN] New Cryan researcher     To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Subj:    Just starting out

Date:   3/4/00 10:28:06 AM Eastern Standard Time

From:   AJHalligan@cs.com

To: CRYAN-D-request@rootsweb.com

Hello, I am just starting out. Unfortunately, my older relatives have

past away. My Grandfather on my mothers side was Andrew Joseph Cryan from

Boston MA. died in 10/62 just before I was born. As far as I know I don't have

any living relatives named Cryan.

Any help or guidance on Cryan's in the Boston or NY/NJ area's would be

appreciated.

 

From:        Fatarm@aol.com  | Block address   Date:        Sat, 4 Mar 2000 22:13:46 EST

 Subject:        [CRYAN] Sligo resources     To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

The Sligo rootsweb mailing list has been discussing Sligo library and

other resources recently.  It's worth checking out a few of the references,

if you know that's where your family is from.  Below are a few of the messages

(serious researchers may wish to subscribe to IRL-Sligo-L and review

the archives as well):

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

Subj:    Re: Sligo Library

Date:   3/4/00 6:35:27 AM Eastern Standard Time

From:   Ckd115@aol.com

To: IRL-SLIGO-L@rootsweb.com

In a message dated 03/03/2000 11:10:43 AM Eastern Standard Time,

W.Barber@motorola.com writes:

 John McTernan's book "Sligo: Sources of Local History", ISBN O 950

2442 2 8, has a list of all these documents available in the Sligo Reference

Library. It can be purchased thru the Library and possibly thru Amazon.uk >>

 Frank Kelly  @ The Booknest in Sligo Town would have this book too.

booknest@tinet.ie

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

Subj:    RE: "Sligo: Sources.."

Date:   3/4/00 8:51:21 AM Eastern Standard Time

From:   W.Barber@motorola.com (Barber Bill-CARV22)

To: IRL-SLIGO-L@rootsweb.com

I have just checked http://www.amazon.co.uk/  website for every book by

McTernan and find one simply called "Sligo" for 7.50 Pounds.  This IS

thesame book as "Sligo: Sources of Local History" based on the ISBN #

listed.There was no review offered and it isn't clear if they have stock. They

havetheir standard disclaimer about allowing 4-6 weeks for delivery.

By the way, I found this UK Web Site better than the U.S. Amazon.com

sitefor obtaining Irish (and other European) books. The U.S. site is aware

ofthe book, but just says "Not Available".  In this case just go to Books

andSearch on McTernan.

 

Bill Barber

 -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

Subj:    Re: "Sligo: Sources.."

Date:   3/4/00 2:37:42 PM Eastern Standard Time

From:   SueCunning@aol.com

To: IRL-SLIGO-L@rootsweb.com

I said this in a private e-mail but I should probably say it to the

group.  Two sources of antiquarian books in Ireland are:

    http://www.rarebooks.ie/  Dublin - has online catalog

    http://www.kennys.ie/      Galway - three floors filled with booksSue

 

From:        SCK32160@aol.com  | Block address   Date:        Sun, 5 Mar 2000 01:20:46 EST

 Subject:        Re: frongoch     To:        caoimhghin@yahoo.com

Thanks so much for responding to my inquiry about the list.  If you

have the time and can see if there are any Kennedy's from Limerick on the list

that would be most kind of you.  I'm sure your busy so if you can't I

understand completely.  I was good of you to let everyone know that a list exists!

                                           Regards,                                   Chris Kennedy

 

From:       "Michael Tobin" <tobinmi@hotmail.com>  | Date:        Sun, 05 Mar 2000 15:00:33 PST

 Subject:        [CRYAN] some recent death notices     To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Two recent death notices from Irish papers.

William Creane (Enniscorthy) - Feb 26 2000

Joe Cryan (Derryknockeran, Cloonloo, Boyle) - Feb  27 2000

If anyone wants any further details on the relatives listed in the

death notices, please email me.regardsMichael

 

From:        ljstandak@webtv.net (Lyle Staehnke)  | Date:        Sun, 5 Mar 2000 16:28:32 -0800 (PST)

 Subject:        [CRYAN] RE:Joseph Cryan     To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

MIchael Tobin, would this be the Joe Cryan that worked for the

RoscommonHerald? his phone # was 079-62749.. I had the pleasure of meeting him a

few years back.. I am refering to the death notices you posted.... Lyle

 

From:        YeloRose46@aol.com  |   Date:        Sun, 5 Mar 2000 20:15:24 EST Subject:

        [CRYAN] Re: CRYAN-D Digest V00 #21     To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Cryan in Lowell area, many of them my father's side.Now all deceased.

Walter F. , John, Thomas E.From:

        SCK32160@aol.com  | Block address

  

Date:        Mon, 6 Mar 2000 09:17:28 EST Subject:        Re: frongoch     To:        caoimhghin@yahoo.com

Thanks again for taking a look for me.  Due to their location they

would not be my Kennedy's.  I will keep it on file just in case.

                                                              Thanks and have a great week,

                                                               Chris Kennedy USA

 

Date:             Mon, 06 Mar 2000 17:32:57 -0500       From:             Carol Russell tweetybird1@sympatico.ca>  | Block address    Reply-to:             tweetybird1@sympatico.ca

 Organisation:             Home Computer

     Subject:             MAILING LIST ADDRESS'

         To:             WALSH-L@rootsweb.com

Hi folks Do you want to join a certain mailing

list ? Well below you will find the url for world

wide mailing list, Country then state/province..

Enjoy   Carol

http://www.rootsweb.com/~maillist/

Tweetybirds Genealogy Page

Lots of links to other sites to find your

ancestorsHomepage:

http://millennium.fortunecity.com/avondale/27

 

From:        "Pat Cryans" <pat@pcryans.fsnet.co.uk>     Date:        Tue, 7 Mar 2000 15:57:26 -0000

 Subject:        [CRYAN] PATRICK ,RED. CRYAN     To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

can anyone help with information about the above

son of  patrick cryan  mary canden born

        about 1880 townland of

derygolagh, keash parish.   parents both died 1911 on the 1911 census

patrick was aged 30 years next time i pick him up is through testamentry

calenders for 1927 he took administration of his fathers will but at

this time he was living at,5, pavors yard pontefract yorkshire then the

trail diesi have not been able to track the address down as it has changed names

the local library and archives havealso been unable to help me if

anyone can help  parick cryan mary canden were married injanuary 1866 keash

also anyone know of a patrick cryan mary walsh of  carrowcrory/

regards patrick cryans

 

From:        "Pat Cryans" <pat@pcryans.fsnet.co.uk>  |    Date:        Tue, 7 Mar 2000 15:58:01 -0000 Subject:        [CRYAN] JOE CRYAN DERRYKNOCKERAN    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

REFERENCE THE ABOVE I MET THE FAMILY LAST YEAR DURING MY RESEARCH AND

SEAN,,  CRYAN INFORMED ME THAT THEY ORIGINATED FROM BROUGHER KEASH

 

Reply-to:         "FamSpack" < >    From:         "FamSpack"  >  | Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 09:45:36 -0000  Subject:         [CRYAN] Cryan/Candon     To:         CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

I have a Patrick CRYAN /Mary WALSH marriage 8 Dec 1851 in Taunagh RC

parish - this is Riverstown.

I have one of their children Michael b 12 Sept 1868 from Boyle and

Ballinafad civil registers

I also have Patrick CRYAN and Mary CAMDEN (but also CANDON & CANDEN)

withBridget born 30 Oct 1866

James born July 1869  both from Boyle with Ballinafad civil

I have also been through the 1881 census for Pontefract and have not

foundPavours Yard the nearest I can get is Petters Yard which is off the

Horsefair. But there are no Cryans there at that time. I have seen some

inthe BM&D index for England and Wales but will get back to you about

thatEve

 

From:        "Pat Cryans" <pat@pcryans.fsnet.co.uk>  | To:        "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" caoimhghin@yahoo.com> Subject:        JUDGE CRYANj   Date:        Thu, 9 Mar 2000 17:35:22 -0000

HI, KEVIN.

CAN YOU HELPin your records do you have any links betweenCryan

judge or Cryan Walsh in Co Sligo anywhere

Cryan Kearns  Regards Patrick Cryans

 

 

From:        "Pat Cryans" <pat@pcryans.fsnet.co.uk>  | Date:        Thu, 9 Mar 2000 18:14:10 -0000

 Subject:        [CRYAN] Patrick Cryan Mary Walsh     To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Eve.thankyou very much for your lastE-Mail.i am not sure if the one

from riverstown is the right one, He was married in 1851 but did not seem

to have his children  in the keash area untill about 1868 a large gap

PATRICK died in 1884 aged 54 years his wife was aged  65 years on the

1901 Census a son shows Michael aged 28 years,

 The 1911 Census Michael is aged 50  so it is possible,Michael.s

brother Patricklived in Manchester England between 1900-1930 where he married

aMargaret Walsh from Cappagh nearKeash they returned to Sligo to run

the family farm.Anyone have yhe  record of this in Manchester .

PAT RED CRYAN.

i believe he married in Pontefract between 1911-1926

the 1911 census states that he had 6 children Bridget. Pat. THOMAS

Margaret James.    Mary

sorry it is not very tidy but i am still new to the computerPATRICK CRYANS

 

From:        "Michael Tobin" <tobinmi@hotmail.com>  |    Date:        Thu, 09 Mar 2000 14:28:01 PST

 Subject:        [CRYAN] message for Tom     To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Sorry to email the list on this.

Tom,I've been trying to email you at Tscrya@aol.com but the email bounces.

Is there an alternative address I should use.regardsMichael

 

Date:        Fri, 10 Mar 2000 07:41:35 -0800   From:        Pamela Burleson <pburleson@skyenet.net>  | Block address Subject:        [CRYAN] Cryan's on Ship passenger CD

     To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Hi,  Here is the list of Cryan's on the Family Tree Maker's Irish to

America CD.  The copyright info says that it is ok to share a

Particular family name with family members.  So here goes:

 

Passenger's Name: Ann Cryan

Age: 21

Gender: Female

Occupation: Servant

Last Residence: Ireland

 

Date of Arrival: May 13, 1859

Final Destination: USA

Purpose for Travel: Staying in USA, but not a citizen of USA

Ship's Name: City Of Brooklyn

Captain's Name: New York

Manifest ID Number: 901390

Port of Embarkation: Liverpool

Mode of Travel: Steerage

 

 

Passenger's Name: Arti Cryan

Age: 35

Gender: Female

Occupation: Unknown

Last Residence: Ireland

 

Date of Arrival: Jun. 16, 1848

Final Destination: USA

Purpose for Travel: Staying in USA, but not a citizen of USA

Ship's Name: Epaminondas

Captain's Name: Boston

Manifest ID Number: 13232

Port of Embarkation: Liverpool

Mode of Travel: Steerage

 

Passenger's Name: Arti Cryan

Age: 4

Gender: Female

Occupation: Child

Last Residence: Ireland

 

Date of Arrival: Jun. 16, 1848

Final Destination: USA

Purpose for Travel: Staying in USA, but not a citizen of USA

Ship's Name: Epaminondas

Captain's Name: Boston

Manifest ID Number: 13232

Port of Embarkation: Liverpool

Mode of Travel: Steerage

 

Passenger's Name: Bessy Cryan

Age: 8

Gender: Female

Occupation: Child

Last Residence: Ireland

 

Date of Arrival: Jan. 15, 1851

Final Destination: MA

Purpose for Travel: Unknown

Ship's Name: Sarah

Captain's Name: New York

Manifest ID Number: 5064

Port of Embarkation: Sligo

Mode of Travel: Unknown

 

Passenger's Name: Biddy Cryan

Age: 20

Gender: Female

Occupation: Servant

Last Residence: Ireland

 

Date of Arrival: Dec. 18, 1854

Final Destination: USA

Purpose for Travel: Staying in USA, but not a citizen of USA

Ship's Name: Linden

Captain's Name: New York

Manifest ID Number: 900784

Port of Embarkation: Sligo

Mode of Travel: Steerage

 

Passenger's Name: Bridget Cryan

Age: 18

Gender: Female

Occupation: Laborer

Last Residence: Ireland

 

Date of Arrival: Sep. 30, 1850

Final Destination: USA

Purpose for Travel: Unknown

Ship's Name: William Rathbone

Captain's Name: New York

Manifest ID Number: 4891

Port of Embarkation: Liverpool

Mode of Travel: Unknown

 

Passenger's Name: Bridget Cryan

Age: 22

Gender: Female

Occupation: Widow/Widower

Last Residence: Ireland

 

Date of Arrival: Jul. 13, 1848

Final Destination: USA

Purpose for Travel: Staying in USA, but not a citizen of USA

Ship's Name: Archimedes

Captain's Name: New York

Manifest ID Number: 716

Port of Embarkation: Sligo

Mode of Travel: Steerage

 

Passenger's Name: Bridget Cryan

Age: 22

Gender: Female

Occupation: Widow/Widower

Last Residence: Ireland

 

Date of Arrival: Jul. 13, 1848

Final Destination: USA

Purpose for Travel: Staying in USA, but not a citizen of USA

Ship's Name: Archimedes

Captain's Name: New York

Manifest ID Number: 716

Port of Embarkation: Sligo

Mode of Travel: Steerage

 

Passenger's Name: Bridget Cryan

Age: 40

Gender: Female

Occupation: Matron

Last Residence: Ireland

 

Date of Arrival: Jan. 15, 1851

Final Destination: MA

Purpose for Travel: Unknown

Ship's Name: Sarah

Captain's Name: New York

Manifest ID Number: 5064

Port of Embarkation: Sligo

Mode of Travel: Unknown

 

Passenger's Name: Catharine Cryan

Age: 1

Gender: Female

Occupation: Child

Last Residence: Ireland

 

Date of Arrival: Jan. 15, 1851

Final Destination: MA

Purpose for Travel: Unknown

Ship's Name: Sarah

Captain's Name: New York

Manifest ID Number: 5064

Port of Embarkation: Sligo

Mode of Travel: Unknown

 

Passenger's Name: Catharine Cryan

Age: 5

Gender: Female

Occupation: Child

Last Residence: Ireland

 

Date of Arrival: Jun. 16, 1848

Final Destination: USA

Purpose for Travel: Staying in USA, but not a citizen of USA

Ship's Name: Epaminondas

Captain's Name: Boston

Manifest ID Number: 13232

Port of Embarkation: Liverpool

Mode of Travel: Steerage

 

Passenger's Name: Catherine Cryan

Age: 19

Gender: Female

Occupation: Wife

Last Residence: England

 

Date of Arrival: Aug. 29, 1855

Final Destination: USA

Purpose for Travel: Staying in USA, but not a citizen of USA

Ship's Name: Dreadnought

Captain's Name: New York

Manifest ID Number: 900879

Port of Embarkation: Liverpool

Mode of Travel: Steerage

 

Passenger's Name: Dominick Cryan

Age: 24

Gender: Male

Occupation: Labourer

Last Residence: England

 

Date of Arrival: Aug. 29, 1855

Final Destination: USA

Purpose for Travel: Staying in USA, but not a citizen of USA

Ship's Name: Dreadnought

Captain's Name: New York

Manifest ID Number: 900879

Port of Embarkation: Liverpool

Mode of Travel: Steerage

 

Passenger's Name: Ellen Cryan

Age: 18

Gender: Female

Occupation: Servant

Last Residence: Ireland

 

Date of Arrival: May 16, 1863

Final Destination: USA

Purpose for Travel: Staying in USA, but not a citizen of USA

Ship's Name: Neptune

Captain's Name: New York

Manifest ID Number: 901917

Port of Embarkation: Liverpool

Mode of Travel: Steerage

 

Passenger's Name: Hanah Cryan

Age: 4

Gender: Female

Occupation: Servant

Last Residence: England

 

Date of Arrival: Sep. 15, 1847

Final Destination: USA

Purpose for Travel: Staying in USA, but not a citizen of USA

Ship's Name: Gov. Davis

Captain's Name: Boston

Manifest ID Number: 13155

Port of Embarkation: Liverpool

Mode of Travel: Steerage

 

Passenger's Name: Henry Cryan

Age: 22

Gender: Male

Occupation: Farmer

Last Residence: Ireland

 

Date of Arrival: Jul. 13, 1848

Final Destination: USA

Purpose for Travel: Staying in USA, but not a citizen of USA

Ship's Name: Archimedes

Captain's Name: New York

Manifest ID Number: 716

Port of Embarkation: Sligo

Mode of Travel: Steerage

 

Passenger's Name: James Cryan

Age: 1

Gender: Male

Occupation: Child

Last Residence: Ireland

 

Date of Arrival: Jun. 16, 1848

Final Destination: USA

Purpose for Travel: Staying in USA, but not a citizen of USA

Ship's Name: Epaminondas

Captain's Name: Boston

Manifest ID Number: 13232

Port of Embarkation: Liverpool

Mode of Travel: Steerage

 

Passenger's Name: James Cryan

Age: 20

Gender: Male

Occupation: Labourer

Last Residence: Ireland

 

Date of Arrival: Sep. 16, 1859

Final Destination: USA

Purpose for Travel: Staying in USA, but not a citizen of USA

Ship's Name: Excelsior

Captain's Name: New York

Manifest ID Number: 901462

Port of Embarkation: Liverpool

Mode of Travel: Steerage

 

Passenger's Name: James Cryan

Age: 40

Gender: Male

Occupation: Farmer

Last Residence: Ireland

 

Date of Arrival: Jun. 22, 1864

Final Destination: USA

Purpose for Travel: Staying in USA, but not a citizen of USA

Ship's Name: Progress

Captain's Name: New York

Manifest ID Number: 902118

Port of Embarkation: Liverpool

Mode of Travel: Steerage

 

Passenger's Name: John Cryan

Age: 23

Gender: Male

Occupation: Labourer

Last Residence: England

 

Date of Arrival: Nov. 11, 1856

Final Destination: USA

Purpose for Travel: Staying in USA, but not a citizen of USA

Ship's Name: Middlesex

Captain's Name: New York

Manifest ID Number: 901070

Port of Embarkation: Liverpool

Mode of Travel: Steerage

 

Passenger's Name: John Cryan

Age: 6

Gender: Male

Occupation: Child

Last Residence: Ireland

 

Date of Arrival: Jan. 15, 1851

Final Destination: MA

Purpose for Travel: Unknown

Ship's Name: Sarah

Captain's Name: New York

Manifest ID Number: 5064

Port of Embarkation: Sligo

Mode of Travel: Unknown

 

Passenger's Name: Margaret Cryan

Age: 20

Gender: Female

Occupation: Labourer

Last Residence: Ireland

 

Date of Arrival: Mar. 12, 1853

Final Destination: USA

Purpose for Travel: Staying in USA, but not a citizen of USA

Ship's Name: Queen Of The West

Captain's Name: New York

Manifest ID Number: 900363

Port of Embarkation: Liverpool

Mode of Travel: Steerage

 

Passenger's Name: Mark Cryan

Age: 2

Gender: Male

Occupation: Child

Last Residence: Ireland

 

Date of Arrival: Jun. 16, 1848

Final Destination: USA

Purpose for Travel: Staying in USA, but not a citizen of USA

Ship's Name: Epaminondas

Captain's Name: Boston

Manifest ID Number: 13232

Port of Embarkation: Liverpool

Mode of Travel: Steerage

 

Passenger's Name: Martin Cryan

Age: 25

Gender: Male

Occupation: Gardener

Last Residence: Ireland

 

Date of Arrival: Aug. 8, 1853

Final Destination: USA

Purpose for Travel: Staying in USA, but not a citizen of USA

Ship's Name: Jane

Captain's Name: New York

Manifest ID Number: 900495

Port of Embarkation: Liverpool

Mode of Travel: Steerage

 

Passenger's Name: Mary Cryan

Age: 11

Gender: Female

Occupation: Child

Last Residence: Ireland

 

Date of Arrival: Jun. 16, 1848

Final Destination: USA

Purpose for Travel: Staying in USA, but not a citizen of USA

Ship's Name: Epaminondas

Captain's Name: Boston

Manifest ID Number: 13232

Port of Embarkation: Liverpool

Mode of Travel: Steerage

 

Passenger's Name: Mary Cryan

Age: 14

Gender: Female

Occupation: Servant

Last Residence: Ireland

 

Date of Arrival: Aug. 23, 1852

Final Destination: USA

Purpose for Travel: Staying in USA, but not a citizen of USA

Ship's Name: Linden

Captain's Name: New York

Manifest ID Number: 900226

Port of Embarkation: Sligo

Mode of Travel: Steerage

 

Passenger's Name: Mary Cryan

Age: 14

Gender: Female

Occupation: Servant

Last Residence: Ireland

 

Date of Arrival: Jan. 28, 1851

Final Destination: USA

Purpose for Travel: Unknown

Ship's Name: Constitution

Captain's Name: New York

Manifest ID Number: 5077

Port of Embarkation: Liverpool

Mode of Travel: Unknown

 

Passenger's Name: Mary Cryan

Age: 20

Gender: Female

Occupation: Servant

Last Residence: Ireland

 

Date of Arrival: Jul. 5, 1862

Final Destination: USA

Purpose for Travel: Staying in USA, but not a citizen of USA

Ship's Name: Universe

Captain's Name: New York

Manifest ID Number: 901796

Port of Embarkation: Liverpool

Mode of Travel: Steerage

 

Passenger's Name: Mary Cryan

Age: 20

Gender: Female

Occupation: Spinster

Last Residence: Ireland

 

Date of Arrival: Jun. 22, 1864

Final Destination: USA

Purpose for Travel: Staying in USA, but not a citizen of USA

Ship's Name: Progress

Captain's Name: New York

Manifest ID Number: 902118

Port of Embarkation: Liverpool

Mode of Travel: Steerage

 

Passenger's Name: Mary Cryan

Age: 21

Gender: Female

Occupation: Servant

Last Residence: Ireland

 

Date of Arrival: May 13, 1859

Final Destination: USA

Purpose for Travel: Staying in USA, but not a citizen of USA

Ship's Name: City Of Brooklyn

Captain's Name: New York

Manifest ID Number: 901390

Port of Embarkation: Liverpool

Mode of Travel: Steerage

 

Passenger's Name: Michael Cryan

Age: 17

Gender: Male

Occupation: Uncle

Last Residence: Ireland

 

Date of Arrival: Jul. 22, 1851

Final Destination: USA

Purpose for Travel: Unknown

Ship's Name: Nordlyset

Captain's Name: New York

Manifest ID Number: 5510

Port of Embarkation: Limerick

Mode of Travel: Unknown

 

Passenger's Name: Michael Cryan

Age: 20

Gender: Male

Occupation: Laborer

Last Residence: Ireland

 

Date of Arrival: May 15, 1851

Final Destination: USA

Purpose for Travel: Unknown

Ship's Name: Australia

Captain's Name: New York

Manifest ID Number: 5254

Port of Embarkation: Liverpool

Mode of Travel: Unknown

 

Passenger's Name: Michael Cryan

Age: 7

Gender: Male

Occupation: Child

Last Residence: Ireland

 

Date of Arrival: Jun. 16, 1848

Final Destination: USA

Purpose for Travel: Staying in USA, but not a citizen of USA

Ship's Name: Epaminondas

Captain's Name: Boston

Manifest ID Number: 13232

Port of Embarkation: Liverpool

Mode of Travel: Steerage

 

Passenger's Name: Michael Cryan

Age: 7

Gender: Male

Occupation: Child

Last Residence: Ireland

 

Date of Arrival: Jun. 22, 1864

Final Destination: USA

Purpose for Travel: Staying in USA, but not a citizen of USA

Ship's Name: Progress

Captain's Name: New York

Manifest ID Number: 902118

Port of Embarkation: Liverpool

Mode of Travel: Steerage

 

Passenger's Name: Mrs. ??? Cryan

Age: 40

Gender: Female

Occupation: Wife

Last Residence: Ireland

 

Date of Arrival: Jun. 22, 1864

Final Destination: USA

Purpose for Travel: Staying in USA, but not a citizen of USA

Ship's Name: Progress

Captain's Name: New York

Manifest ID Number: 902118

Port of Embarkation: Liverpool

Mode of Travel: Steerage

 

Passenger's Name: Patrick Cryan

Age: 21

Gender: Male

Occupation: Laborer

Last Residence: Ireland

 

Date of Arrival: Feb. 6, 1849

Final Destination: USA

Purpose for Travel: Staying in USA, but not a citizen of USA

Ship's Name: Speed

Captain's Name: New York

Manifest ID Number: 3388

Port of Embarkation: Liverpool

Mode of Travel: Steerage

 

Passenger's Name: Patrick Cryan

Age: 9

Gender: Male

Occupation: Child

Last Residence: Ireland

 

Date of Arrival: Jun. 16, 1848

Final Destination: USA

Purpose for Travel: Staying in USA, but not a citizen of USA

Ship's Name: Epaminondas

Captain's Name: Boston

Manifest ID Number: 13232

Port of Embarkation: Liverpool

Mode of Travel: Steerage

 

Passenger's Name: Peter Cryan

Age: 4

Gender: Male

Occupation: Child

Last Residence: Ireland

 

Date of Arrival: Jan. 15, 1851

Final Destination: MA

Purpose for Travel: Unknown

Ship's Name: Sarah

Captain's Name: New York

Manifest ID Number: 5064

Port of Embarkation: Sligo

Mode of Travel: Unknown

 

Passenger's Name: Philip Cryan

Age: 20

Gender: Male

Occupation: Labourer

Last Residence: Ireland

 

Date of Arrival: Dec. 23, 1862

Final Destination: USA

Purpose for Travel: Staying in USA, but not a citizen of USA

Ship's Name: Emerald Isle

Captain's Name: New York

Manifest ID Number: 901851

Port of Embarkation: Liverpool

Mode of Travel: Steerage

 

Passenger's Name: Sarah Cryan

Age: 13

Gender: Female

Occupation: Child

Last Residence: England

 

Date of Arrival: Sep. 15, 1847

Final Destination: USA

Purpose for Travel: Staying in USA, but not a citizen of USA

Ship's Name: Gov. Davis

Captain's Name: Boston

Manifest ID Number: 13155

Port of Embarkation: Liverpool

Mode of Travel: Steerage

 

Passenger's Name: Sarah Cryan

Age: 14

Gender: Female

Occupation: Child

Last Residence: Ireland

 

Date of Arrival: Jun. 16, 1848

Final Destination: USA

Purpose for Travel: Staying in USA, but not a citizen of USA

Ship's Name: Epaminondas

Captain's Name: Boston

Manifest ID Number: 13232

Port of Embarkation: Liverpool

Mode of Travel: Steerage

 

Passenger's Name: Sarah Cryan

Age: 46

Gender: Female

Occupation: Servant

Last Residence: England

 

Date of Arrival: Sep. 15, 1847

Final Destination: USA

Purpose for Travel: Staying in USA, but not a citizen of USA

Ship's Name: Gov. Davis

Captain's Name: Boston

Manifest ID Number: 13155

Port of Embarkation: Liverpool

Mode of Travel: Steerage

 

Passenger's Name: Thomas Cryan

Age: 8

Gender: Male

Occupation: Child

Last Residence: Ireland

 

Date of Arrival: Sep. 30, 1850

Final Destination: USA

Purpose for Travel: Unknown

Ship's Name: William Rathbone

Captain's Name: New York

Manifest ID Number: 4891

Port of Embarkation: Liverpool

Mode of Travel: Unknown

 

Passenger's Name: Winny Cryan

Age: 20

Gender: Female

Occupation: Servant

Last Residence: Ireland

 

Date of Arrival: Jul. 1, 1858

Final Destination: USA

Purpose for Travel: Staying in USA, but not a citizen of USA

Ship's Name: Aurora

Captain's Name: New York

Manifest ID Number: 901300

Port of Embarkation: Liverpool

Mode of Travel: Steerage

 

Passenger's Name: Biddy Cryane

Age: 4

Gender: Female

Occupation: Child

Last Residence: Ireland

 

Date of Arrival: Mar. 1, 1854

Final Destination: USA

Purpose for Travel: Staying in USA, but not a citizen of USA

Ship's Name: New York

Captain's Name: New York

Manifest ID Number: 900622

Port of Embarkation: Liverpool

Mode of Travel: Steerage

 

Passenger's Name: James Cryane

Age: 10 months

Gender: Male

Occupation: Infant

Last Residence: Ireland

 

Date of Arrival: Mar. 1, 1854

Final Destination: USA

Purpose for Travel: Staying in USA, but not a citizen of USA

Ship's Name: New York

Captain's Name: New York

Manifest ID Number: 900622

Port of Embarkation: Liverpool

Mode of Travel: Steerage

 

Passenger's Name: Kitty Cryane

Age: 11

Gender: Female

Occupation: Child

Last Residence: Ireland

 

Date of Arrival: Mar. 1, 1854

Final Destination: USA

Purpose for Travel: Staying in USA, but not a citizen of USA

Ship's Name: New York

Captain's Name: New York

Manifest ID Number: 900622

Port of Embarkation: Liverpool

Mode of Travel: Steerage

 

Passenger's Name: Mary Cryane

Age: 15

Gender: Female

Occupation: Servant

Last Residence: Ireland

 

Date of Arrival: Mar. 1, 1854

Final Destination: USA

Purpose for Travel: Staying in USA, but not a citizen of USA

Ship's Name: New York

Captain's Name: New York

Manifest ID Number: 900622

Port of Embarkation: Liverpool

Mode of Travel: Steerage

 

Passenger's Name: Mary Cryane

Age: 40

Gender: Female

Occupation: House Keeper

Last Residence: Ireland

 

Date of Arrival: Mar. 1, 1854

Final Destination: USA

Purpose for Travel: Staying in USA, but not a citizen of USA

Ship's Name: New York

Captain's Name: New York

Manifest ID Number: 900622

Port of Embarkation: Liverpool

Mode of Travel: Steerage

 

Passenger's Name: Peter Cryane

Age: 40

Gender: Male

Occupation: Farmer

Last Residence: Ireland

 

Date of Arrival: Mar. 1, 1854

Final Destination: USA

Purpose for Travel: Staying in USA, but not a citizen of USA

Ship's Name: New York

Captain's Name: New York

Manifest ID Number: 900622

Port of Embarkation: Liverpool

Mode of Travel: Steerage

 

Reply-to:         <ariley@ltp.org>    From:         "A. Riley" <ariley@ltp.org>  | Block address

    Date:         Tue, 14 Mar 2000 12:03:14 -0600  Subject:         [CRYAN] CRYAN: the ships' passenger list      To:         CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Hello, Cryans --

Pam put the ships' passenger list on our list the other day. There are

somemysteries and inconsistencies -- I wonder if those who know more about

shiplists can tell us?

For instance, this one:

Passenger's Name: Arti Cryan

Age: 35

Gender: Female

Occupation: Unknown

Last Residence: Ireland

Date of Arrival: Jun. 16, 1848

Final Destination: USA

Purpose for Travel: Staying in USA, but not a citizen of USA

Ship's Name: Epaminondas

Captain's Name: Boston

Manifest ID Number: 13232

Port of Embarkation: Liverpool

Mode of Travel: Steerage

 

We think this might be our Atty, but the age is off by about 10 years,

andthe name isn't spelled right -- but that could be a transcription

error.There are several other names from the same ship that we think might be

Atty's kids, but again, the ages are off by quite a bit. Our Pat was

about17 in 1848, but they've got his age as 9. He might have been small for

hisage, but . . . 9? Anyone got any thoughts on this issue?

Thanks, cousins

A. Rileyariley@ltp.org  another proud descendant of Atty Cryan

 

Reply-to:         "FamSpack" < >    From:         "FamSpack" < >  | Block address    Date:         Thu, 16 Mar 2000 08:18:37 -0000

  Subject:         [CRYAN] Ships lists and Atty and Dominick      To:         CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Thanks Pam it is a super collection.

I have put together those travelling on the same ships and find on the

EPAMINONDAS arriving in Boston 16 June 1848 from Liverpool

Arti age 35

Sarah age 14

Mary age 11

Patrick aged 9

Michael aged 7

Catherine aged 5

Arti aged 4

Mark aged 2

James aged 1

 

Who else could it be but ATTY ?

I think that altering the ages to apparent ages saves having to pay

fullfare for the oldest 3 or 4 and probably meant that the sleeping

arrangements - basic at best - also meant that those not paying full

farecould sleep with the family. I think I too would worry about a 17 and

16boys sleeping with all the "men" and a 18 and 14 year old girl sleeping

withthe women (Atty would also need their help with the smaller children -

whata worry on board boat for 3month, did someone write. You would need all

thehelp you could get and eyes in the back of your head)

Also at first ,I thought that the Dominick(24) and Catherine(19) 

travellingon the DREADNAUGHT arriving in NY on 29 August 1855 from Liverpool

couldhave been Anthony's Dominic and Catherine Cawley but this is unlikely

asthere is a son James born to Catherine Cawley in 1846 when the first

Catherine would have been 10 years old.And then a Thomas born in 1854

andSarah born in Gurteen in 1866

Dominick on the DREADNAUGHT is most probably the Donick that appears in

themuster rolls for the |Civil War.

It is not easy to detect who the others are tho' there are several

familygroups and lone women with children.

What courage they had to go to somewhere unknown in these

circumstances.Eve

 

Date:        Thu, 16 Mar 2000 06:18:27 -0800   From:        Pamela Burleson <pburleson@skyenet.net>  |

 Subject:        [CRYAN] Ship's list, Atty     To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Hi Eve,  I thought that those must be my (and Audrey's) Atty and kids,  but I

think I will order the original list and see how it looks.  Sometimes

these were hard to read and transcribe, I suppose.

 

EPAMINONDAS arriving in Boston 16 June 1848 from Liverpool

Arti age 35                 (my Atty would have been 44)

Sarah age 14              (my Sarah supposedly came at an eariler time

with Wynafred)

Mary age 11                (14)

Patrick aged 9            (17)

Michael aged 7           (16)

Catherine aged 5       (I don't have a Catherine)

Arti aged 4                 (maybe my Anne or Annie???  would have been

11 though)

Mark aged 2               (3 or 4)

James aged 1             (1 or 2)

 

Missing from this list would be Timothy, age 6 and John, age 9

The timing is perfect,  as from old letters from descendants now gone,

my Cryan's left Ireland in May 1848 and took 6 weeks to make the

crossing to Boston.  It seems too coincidental that there would have

been another mother with 8 children, same names, arriving at the same

time!  I haven't seen evidence of that in my research here in the US.

Maybe the original will help sort it out!

I heard from Kathleen from this list and we think we found her John and

Owen Crean!  I would be glad to check for anyone else.

Pam

 

Date:        Thu, 16 Mar 2000 06:43:51 -0800   From:        Pamela Burleson <pburleson@skyenet.net>  |

 Subject:        [CRYAN] Parish Records     To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Thought Eve could help me on this, too!

My film came in yesterday at the Family History Center, #989737,

Ireland Parish Records.  Very cool to read through the old records and

hard to read some pages and handwriting!  Unfortunatly,  the printer is

not working and I wasn't able to get copies.  I need to go back with my

digital camera.   Here's where I need help:

The Baptimal record for my Patrick Cryan reads:

Patr.  John Cryan & Atty McDonough, Michael Cryan & Atty Walsh

Are Michael Cryan and Atty Walsh Godparents? (I am not Catholic)

Atty McDonough's mother was Atty Walsh.  Could Michael Cryan be John's Father or Brother?

Just don't know what it all means!Thanks,Pam

 

From:        ljstandak@webtv.net (Lyle Staehnke)  | Date:        Thu, 16 Mar 2000 18:48:56 -0800 (PST)

 Subject:        [CRYAN] RE: ST. Patrick     To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

I hope all you Irish have a grand St. Patricks day and especially the

Cryan Clan. I my self am going to have a drop of good Irish whiskey in

honor of St. Patrick.  

Lots of Ireland here...  http://www.local.ie/   

Lyle

 

Reply-to:         <ariley@ltp.org>    From:         "A. Riley" <ariley@ltp.org>  | Date:         Fri, 17 Mar 2000 10:34:43 -0600  Subject:         [CRYAN] [CRYAN-L] Happy St. Patrick's Day!      To:         CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Happy St. Patrick's Day to all!

It's said that the parish where all of Atty Cryan's kids were baptized,

Taunaugh, was founded by the saint himself! I lift up a prayer of

blessingon all the Cryan clan, near and far, present, past and future, and

afterwork tonight, I'll lift up a pint of Harp as well.

A. Rileyglad to be a Cryan descendant   ariley@ltp.org

 

Reply-to:         "FamSpack" < >    From:         "FamSpack" < >  |   Subject:         Re: [CRYAN] Parish Records    Date:         Sat, 18 Mar 2000 00:10:56 -0000     To:         CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Yes both, sometimes when the old records are in Latin the column where

thesenames are written is headed Testes.

Some of the old Latin records give a full explanation ie that I (the

priest)baptised a child of (the parents) who had been married with the rites

of theChurch(or not as the case maybe), and he/she is named..eg Patrick

..the witnesses to this are.(first witness)....(name of the parish they

belong to)and (second witness)......(name of their parish)

During the baptism/christening ceremony epecially of an infant,

promises aremade on behalf of the child and the godparents witness this and agree

tohelp carry out the promises.

These witnesses take on the role of godparents ie look after the

spiritualwellbeing of the child especially if something happens to the parents.

Oftenthis role then becomes foster parent especially if they are already

closefamily. In the mid 1850s people were likely to die at a much younger

agethan they do nowadays so frequently children were brought up by

grandparentsor uncles or aunts.

It would seem most probable that Atty Walsh is your Atty's mother and

Michael is either John's father or brother. On the other hand they

could becousins who had the same names. One will never be sure . It would help

if wehad their ages but that is unlikely.........Do others agree ?

Until again EveHappy St Patrick's Day to all

 

From:        Jill Devito <devito@uta.edu>  | Date:        Sat, 18 Mar 2000 11:58:02 -0600

 Subject:        [CRYAN] Lt. Thomas Cryan biographical web page     To:

        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Dear Cryan-listers,

I have completed my most recent family history project, a web page

biographyin honor of my grandfather's brother, Lt. Thomas Cryan of Lowell, MA,

whowas killed in action on this date, March 18, 1944 while flying B-17

bomberswith the Army Air Corps in WWII.

Please check out the url:

http://omega.uta.edu/~jxd3644/tcryan.html

Thanks,Jill DeVito

 

The Promise of His Youth: a biography dedicated to the memory of

                             Lt. Thomas Cryan, 1920-1944

                                   By his grand-niece, Jill DeVito

                                With illustrations by Mary Beth Cryan

When I think of the 100th's casualties ... I wonder what poets, what statesmen, what inventors, what husbands, what           fathers, never were permitted to play their part in a contribution toward human well-being.                               -- Harry H. Crosby, A Wing and a Prayer

 

More than 16 million Americans served with the Allied Forces in World War II.    Tom Cryan was one ofalmost 300,000 who never came home.    This is his story.

 

Thomas Cryan was born June 10, 1920, the seventh of nine children of John P. and Anna G. (O'Reilly)

Cryan.    The family lived in a large white house at 59 Temple Street in Lowell, Massachussetts.    Both

John Cryan and Anna O'Reilly were born in Lowell as children of Irish immigrants.    John, a veteran

of the Spanish-American War, worked as a traveling salesman and for many years was involved with

local politics in Lowell.    Anna took care of several boarders who rented rooms in the family home,

managed the household finances meticulously, and was a devoted homemaker.    Beyond the

constant challenge of keeping Jim, Frank, Arthur, Jack, Catherine, Eileen, Tom, Paul and Gerry fed

and clothed, Anna's highest priorities for her children were their education and their Catholic faith.

 

Even among seven boys and two girls, from an early age Tom stood out as the star of the family.  

Tom's sister Catherine tells the story of his fifth birthday.    "Well, I guess Tom was a budding

politician.    He had told all the kids in the neighborhood that they could

come to his birthday.    His birthday arrived, the 10th of June.    Mama was

getting supper ready and she looked out and here's every kid in the

neighborhood sitting on the back piazza, all dressed up and carrying

wrapped presents.    She didn't know what they were there for.    They

were there for Tom's birthday!    So she took the regular everyday supper

cake, and she put fancy icing on it.    And she gave me the money to run

down to Steve's and get a quart of ice cream.    A quart of ice cream from

Steve's was as good as any half gallon nowadays.    So Tom had his

birthday party."

 

As a six-year-old, Tom traveled with his Aunt Katie and Uncle Gene to visit his oldest brother, James,

in New York City.    In a letter dated August 17, 1926, his mother Anna writes:

 

Dear James:--    Very glad to receive your letter, also glad to know that my company had arrived safe in N.Y.    Wemiss Thomas very much, more than we would any of the others.    He stays around the house more than the others.   I am pleased to know that he is enjoying himself, he is a good kid to do things for, he appreciates anything.    Iknow he was delighted over the two suits Gene bought for him.    Especially the belts.    I can just see him admiringthem...    I forgot to tell Katie that when Thomas has nothing to do he used to practice writing, she could try himwith all his letters and the heading he has to put on his papers at school.    Thomas Cryan, St. Peter's School, Grade

1.    Our Paul is fine and every little while he says, "I wish Thomas did not go to N.Y."

By October of 1926, Tom had already begun to shine as a young scholar.    By his father's account,

"Thomas is going like a house afire at school and every night he has a paper home that is the best in

his room and everybody has to praise him and tell him how good he is.    He knows it and admits it

himself."    And his mother writes, "Thomas is very proud of himself.    He is doing so well.    He is

studying very hard and gets a star every day.    I am almost run out of adjectives telling him how

good he is...    He can read out loud until everyone is asking him to stop.    He is so interested in

schoolwork that he thinks of nothing else.    I hope he keeps it up when he gets into the higher

grades."

 

                    Tom's Sister Catherine remembers that "In the 5th grade, Tom was Santa Claus

                    in the Christmas play at the Lincoln School.    The Lincoln School was really a

                    neighborhood school in those days.    Everybody bought a ticket to the

                    Christmas play.    And I wonder if it was because Tom Cryan was going to be

                    Santa Claus!    After he broke his leg (during the summer after third grade) he

                    was quite awkward.    And when he did a dance with his reindeer on the stage, it

                    was really something to see!"

 

                    The Cryan children were a close-knit group, and they led an adventurous,

                    independent lifestyle in the industrial city of Lowell.    Tom's brother Paul

                    remembers a childhood experience from the early 1930's:    "One spring, we had

gone over to watch the circus come into town about 2:00 a.m.    After the circus had set up I was

jumping in a sand pit by the railroad tracks and sprained my ankle.    Someone found Tom for me and

he carried me about a mile and then borrowed a wagon to get me home.    I was about 9 and Tom was

11."

Since 4th grade at the Lincoln School, Tom's best friend was John Casey.    As Tom's sister

Catherine recalls, "Casey was like another member of the family."    And John Casey concurs, "That

was my second house."    He says that with seven boys in the Cryan household, "Whoever went out

first on Saturday night was the best dressed!"

Catherine remembers that "When Tom and Johnny Casey finished the 6th grade, Johnny had to go

to the Butler School, because that's where his father was a Janitor.    And Tom went to Morey, up in

the highlands.    They had planned in the 6th grade that (after graduating from junior high) they were

going to go to Keith Academy, and be in the same class again."    In high school, "Tom and Casey

would come home from school... and use the phone, to call up girls."    As there was little privacy to

be found in the Cryan household, they would pull the telephone into the closet before dialing.

Tom's high school and college years were marked by the loss of both of his parents.     Anna Cryan

suddenly became ill and died before Tom's sixteenth birthday, and John Cryan died from a stroke

following an eye operation, less than three years later.    The care of the family fell into the hands of

the older brothers, and everyone pitched in to help run the household.

 

The Cryan boys would spend many evenings outdoors playing football, but Tom's brother Arthur

remembers that one of the boys would always have to return to the kitchen to "put water on the

beans, so they wouldn't burn."    Arthur tells the story of a joke played on Tom by a neighborhood

pal, Ray Gendron.    Ray spent a lot of time in the house, as it was "an open house" with people

always coming and going.    One day while Ray was at the house, Tom accidentally stepped on a cat.

   The cat let out a yowl, and Tom felt terrible.    After Tom left the room, Ray poured a bottle of

ketchup on the floor where the cat had been.    When Tom came back to the kitchen "the cat was

quite well, but Tommy wasn't!"

For one or two weeks every year, the Cryan kids would vacation at the Hampton beach cottages

owned by Aunt Bridget and Aunt Katie.    Tom's best friend John Casey remembers being invited

once to join the Cryans during "the last week of the season, when they let the Cryan boys take over."

   For Casey, who was the only boy in his household, supper with the Cryans was quite an

experience.    "I had to move fast, or there was nothing left!"

Tom's sister Catherine tells the story of another trip to the beach houses.    "Tom and I borrowed the

car and we started down to Hampton.    Neither of us had even a nickel.    (You could buy a hot dog

for a nickel in those days ... but we didn't have one).    So Tom says, 'Say a prayer that we meet some

old ladies with a flat.'    We were driving along, and sure enough, there are a couple of old ladies with

a flat in answer to our prayers.    So Tom pulled over behind them and got out and took the spare out,

and put it on.    So the ladies say 'Here, take this.'    'Oh, no, thank you!'    So the lady finally put it in

his pocket and he said, 'Well, thank you very much.'    And it was paper, folding money, which we

didn't have any of.    So we went along to Hampton Beach and were able to eat with all that money.  

It was proably a buck, but in those days that was a lot of money!"

 

Just as his mother had hoped, Tom continued to excel in academics at St. Peter's School, the

Lincoln School, Morey Jr. High, Keith Academy (class of 1938) and the Lowell Textile Institute (class

of 1942).    Tom's sister Catherine recalls that Tom once took a special math class in the Keith

Academy principal's office, with just one other student.    She also remembers that their brother Jack

once said "The way to drive Tom crazy would be to put him in a room with math problems all over

the walls, and no place to work them out."

Paul Cryan, who attended Lowell High School while his

brother Tom was at Keith Academy, says that "The

Headmaster at Lowell High, Ray Sullivan, was the principal

at the Lincoln School when Tom was there and he always

followed his progress.    If there was a project to be done he

would call on Tom.    When they started the Columbian

Squires (youth organization) in Lowell, he called on Tom to

lead it."

Tom became a popular local athlete, playing varsity

basketball and football at Keith Academy and Lowell Textile.

   His brother Paul recalls, "Tom played four sports (in high

school) and received a varsity sweater with four stripes on the sleeve to indicate his participation.  

In 1939 I Went to Jacquet River, New Brunswick, with Irene and Gordon Grant to visit her sister Linda,they were my mother's first cousins... Tom let me take his high school sweater -- a great thrill for a sophomore."

While a student at Lowell Textile, Tom worked in the carbonizing department of Talbot Mills in

Tewksbury.    As his brother Paul explains, this was only one of many jobs that kept Tom busy as a

teenager.    In a February 11, 2000 e-mail, Paul writes:

Thinking about Tom brings back a lot of memories.    He always had a couple of jobs going.    He drove a truckdelivering candy and tobacco after school and on weekends he cleaned the boilers at the greenhouse of theMerrimack Valley Nurseries in Tyngsboro.    It was a coal burner and a dirty job.    In the summer he worked forKydd's ice cream parlor.    One time the state inspector came by and told him he couldn't work after 10:00 as he

wasn't 18.    He told him he would have to close up and send everyone home, as he was the manager.

In 1940 when they started the draft, the first one (of the Cryan boys and their comrades) that was called was LennyGendron.    We all knew it was just a matter of time and we would all be in so Tom set up a testimonial dinner forLenny.    When the dinner started Tom was on one of his jobs so I ended up as the emcee.    The next day after his

                                             physical Lenny came home as he didn't pass.    All the rest of

                                             his brothers -- 6 of them -- did go in.    Lenny joined the fire

                                             department and was killed from a fire accident.

 

                                             In the fall of 1940 Tom and one of his buddies at Textile

                                             School started dances on Friday nights at the Liberty Hall

                                             and then moved over to the Rex Center.    There was a band

                                             of six or seven members from Nashua, NH, that played.    I

                                             sold the cold drinks.    At the end of the night we pooled all

                                             the ticket money and the soda money.    We would just about

                                             have enough to pay each band member their three dollars

                                             and five for the policeman.    When the Federal Government

                                             said we had to pay an entertainment tax the dances ended.

 

Lowell Technical Institute (now U Mass Lowell)photo courtesy Lowell National Historic Park

 

Four of the seven Cryan brothers (Frank, Thomas, Paul, and Gerald) served with the US Armed

Forces in World War II.    Frank, Paul, and Gerry joined the Navy.    Tom left the Lowell Textile Institutein his junior year and applied to enter the Army Air Corps.    According to his sister Catherine, Tom"was interested in airplanes -- he used to say that he'd been wanting to fly an airplane since

Lindbergh had flown over Lowell in the '20s."

As his brother Paul recalls, "Tom applied for the Air Corps in

September, 1941, in Massachussetts.    He was finally accepted

when he got his weight below the maximum late in November,

while he was living in Fairfield, Connecticut.    He went in the

service in January of 1942."

 

Tom's sister Catherine explains that "Tom was a big guy --

there was nothing little about Tom!" and although he passed all

of the Air Corps exams, he did not pass the physical.    "The

doctor put him on an obesity diet, but he couldn't lose an

ounce."    While Tom was working at Remington Arms, he

contracted a Strep infection.    "He had to go to the hospital.  

He came out of the hospital, and he went to the Air Corps and

said 'Weigh me in!'    He weighed 184 pounds, and they signed

him up right then.    (In less than two weeks, he was back up to

205)."    Paul Cryan points out that by the time his brother

reached his normal weight of 220 lbs, he may have been "the

heaviest pilot in the air force!"

A few months after entering the Air Corps, while Training at

Maxwell Field in Alabama, Tom wrote to his oldest brother,

James:

March 17, 1942

Hi Jim:    I've been going to write to you but haven't

found the time till now.    It's raining so hard that we

have had our morning classes called off so I have some

spare time.    This rain we are having may cool things off

down here, it has been too hot this past week.    It feels

like June or July instead of March.

 

How's the family and the business?    I got a letter from Catherine and she said that your daughter was quite a girl.   How are you going to take care of your trade when your tires wear out?    I finish my training at Maxwell Fieldthis week and where I go from here I don't know.    The next step in my training will be flying 250 IP planes.    I willbe taking up cross country and acrobatic flying.    I've finished my ground school and if I go straight to my next

base I'll be flying solo in two weeks.    But all my class is probably going on a furlough as there are no flying fieldsopen to send us to.    They are pushing so many pilots through that everything is congested.    So I hope to be upNorth for the month of April.    I guess I'll spend Easter Sunday at Lowell.    I'll drop over and tell you all aboutArmy life.    It's a great life, at least in the Air Corps.    Well I'll close here as I have quite a few letters to write and

I won't have any chance to, the rest of the week as I'll be busy getting ready to leave as I may be moving thisweekend.    Drop me a line sometime.YoursTom

P.S. My address is: A/c Thomas Cryan, A.C., RC., Squad C Group 1 Class 42, I, Maxwell Field, Ala.

 

Jim's son, James Cryan, Jr., remembers "a story that Dad told, about when Tom came home on

leave, once.    Tom was driving down Merrimack Street, and instead of using the brakes, he pulled

back on the steering wheel.    He pulled the steering wheel right off the car!"

During another furlough, Tom's sister Catherine says that the weather was cold enough for Tom to

borrow long johns that belonged to his brother Gerry, who was "always the skinny one."    "And my

modest little brother, he said, 'You should see this!' and he came in dancing like a ballet dancer.  

They fit like skin."

Catherine says that Tom shared a special bond with his older brother Jack, even though "there were

seven years between them."    As kids, Tom and Jack had shared a room.    One night they "kept

each other awake all night" reciting a tongue-twister until they got it right:

There was a successful thistle sifter

who when sifting a sieve full of unsifted thistles

thrust three thousand thistles through the thick of his thumb.

See that thou when sifting thy sieve full of unsifted thistles

thrust not three thousand thistles through the thick of thy thumb.

Success to the successful thistle sifter!

This post card from Tom to his brother Jack was post marked Sumpter, SC July 15, 1942:

Tom's best best friend John Casey remembers that "Tom was the first of our group to go into the

service."    While Tom was on leave from South Carolina in 1942, John Casey accompanied Tom and

two other friends on a trip to New York City.    As Tom's car was "an antique," Casey estimates that

they had four flat tires by the time they drove the forty miles Southwest to Worcester.    When they

"finally made it" to New York, the "three civilians and Tom in his uniform" went into the famous club

called Billy Rose's Diamond Horseshoe.    Upon viewing the cover charge and the prices on the

menu, the three civilians made jokes about Billy Rose: "This guy must be paying alimony to three

wives!"    Tom, who did not wish to be embarrassed in uniform, kept telling them to "Keep quiet!"

 

On another occasion when Tom was on leave and in uniform, he and his sister Catherine were

driving through downtown Lowell, in a Model A Ford that their brother Paul had bought for a low

price and left in Catherine's care.    The car broke down; "Something happened, and it wouldn't go

another foot."    This resulted in quite a dilemma, as Catherine explains: "When you're an officer in

uniform, you don't get your hands dirty."    They called the local Ford dealer, and he asked Catherine

how much she wanted for the car.    They settled on "enough to buy a war bond -- $18.75."

From late 1942 to early 1943, Paul Cryan remembers that his brother Tom was "flying B-25s** and

teaching aerial gunnery for six months" in Panama City, Florida.    "During this time I believe he was

credited with a submarine kill in the Gulf of Mexico.    He also flew some VIPs to Africa.    I don't knowwhat kind of plane he was flying, but it was not armed."    Tom's sister Catherine says that there wasone thing he didn't like about Africa: "Little boys, 8 to 10 years old, would meet the soldiers comingin, and they would say, 'my sister, 25 cents, my sister'... and Tom was shocked!"

** The B-25, a medium range bomber used extensively in the Pacific theater, was also utilized to

patrol North American waters.

While stationed at the Army Air Forces Gunnery School at Tyndall Field in Panama City, Florida, Tom

wrote the following letter (post marked March 10, 1943) to his brother, Gerald, who was then

stationed at Camp Allen in Norfolk, Virginia.

Hi Gerald,

I've been going to write you for quite a while but am just getting around to it.    How do you like the Navy?    Arethey keeping you busy?    Do you expect to ship out soon?    If you are going to get a leave when you finish trainingwrite and let me know as I will get one at the same time and we can both go home at the same time.    I intend to getmy leave in April so if you are getting one we can probably arrange to go north together.    You see I have a leave

coming up and I can arrange to get in any time I please -- So write anyway and tell me when you expect to finishyour training.    I certainly would like to see you in your navy uniform.    Send me a picture of yourself at any rate.   I bet you're a killer in that flashy navy blue outfit.    Have you run into any southern belles yet?    Take a tip froman old-timer don't get too friendly with any of these southern queens, they are mostly a pain in the neck.

I have been hoping to get a plane to fly up to Norfolk but so far

no-soap.    I flew up to Atlanta this weekend but I can't get permission

to go as far as Va.    I had quite a time in Atlanta though.    Here is

Frank's address:    F.D. Cryan CBNI USNR, US Naval Construction

Battallion, 8th Co. D, Dutch Harbor, Alaska

So long -- Write Soon

Tom

While Tom was still stationed in the U.S., he became engaged to his hometown sweetheart, Pat

Holmes.    Tom's sister Catherine says that Pat was "a lovely girl."    "She worked for the United

Service Organization in Lowell during the war.    They were very much in love."    When Tom earned

his wings (at Turner Field in Albany, Georgia), he gave them to Pat.    While Tom was overseas, he

sent Catherine $50 a month, so that when he needed to have something done in the states, she

could do it for him.    When there was enough money put away, Tom sent Catherine to the jewlery

store with Pat to choose an engagement ring.

In a letter dated March 16, 2000, Pat (Holmes) Regan writes:

Dear Miss DeVito,

Thank you for the interest you've shown in the Cryan family history of which I was part of for a time.

My time with Tom was short.    Servicemen didn't get much time between training and leaving for duty.

The first time I saw Tom, 1941, was at a dance at Immaculate Hall.    He didn't know me then.    To my surprise,mutual friends introduced us in March 1943.     I liked him immediately -- we saw each other as much as we could.   We rode the bus to movies and to dinner, simple things.    Tom was in training during this time and was an officer.   He was neat in his "pinks".    Tom went back to Alabama and Georgia to his group to leave for England.    InAugust 1943, he asked me to marry him.

His letters were personal and funny and they were wonderful to receive.    At the same time, he was writing yourgreat Aunt Catherine and giving her instructions about taking me to get the engagement ring, the cedar chest, andother information about how Catherine should be taking care of me.    Catherine is a wonderful person and she andTom were very close.

I wish that I could offer you some concrete information, but my life changed when Catherine was notified of Tom'sdeath.    One deals with the knowledge that his brothers and sisters were strong because they had Paul, Jerry, andFrank (who were also in the service) to be concerned about.    That reason helped me hold and to understand thatgrief is a part of the living process.

Tom was a smart, witty, protective man.    May God have a special place for Tom and the Cryan family.In memory of March 1944....

Sincerely,

Patricia Holmes Regan

           This photo (courtesy Jane Cryan) was taken in front of Jack Cryan's home, on

            the last day Tom was in Lowell on leave in 1943, before being sent overseas.

Overseas, 1st Lieutenant Cryan (0-795631) served in the 350th Squadron of the 100th Bombardment

(Group H) in the 8th Air force.     He earned the Air Medal with two Oak Leaf Clusters and Stars for

combat service in the European campaign.

The 100th Bomb Group (known as "The Bloody Hundredth" for the heavy losses it suffered) was

stationed in Thorpe Abbots, England.    Tom's brother Paul describes the location of the base,

"halfway between Norwich and Ipswich N by NE of London.    The fields were identified by local

townships or landmarks which have since disappeared."

Jack Eling, the radio operator from Tom's original crew, describes Tom as a cherub-faced, bubbling

guy.    Sgt. Eling explains that the crew of pilot Mark Cope and copilot Tom Cryan trained together in

the U.S., then picked up a B-17 Flying Fortress bomber and flew it to Scotland.    In a letter dated

February 4, 2000, Dr. Eling writes:

 

Our crew was put together... in early 1943.    Our training bases were at Walla Walla, and Moses Lake,

Washington.    After our crew's training we were given a furlough.    We met at Scott Field, Illinois.    We ferried aB-17 bomber to Presque Isle, Maine.    24 hours later we flew from Presque Isle in a driving rain storm through thenight and I can't recall if we landed in Labrador or not (at 77 years of age, the mind gets fuzzy sometimes).   Anyway, the next day we landed at Prestwick, Scotland.    Pilot Mark Cope and copilot Tom Cryan did a great jobgetting us to Scotland.    We went to a base named Stone, Scotland.    From there we went by rail to the 100th Bomb

Base at Thorpe Abbots.    As I recall we were a replacement for one of the bombers shot down on October 14, 1943on the Schweinfurt, Germany ball-bearing raid.**    Three weeks later, November 3, 1943, we flew our firstmission.

** Owen Roane, who flew as lead pilot on the Schweinfurt mission, says that no planes were lost on

October 13; he believes that Lt. Cope's crew was probably a replacement for the October 10 mission

to Munster, when 13 crews from the 100th Bomb Group were sent out and only one returned.

Left waist gunner James Morrison recalls that Tom had been trained as a fighter pilot, but was

assigned to Lt. Cope's crew when the demand was greater for heavy bomber pilots.    Sgt. Morrison

says that Tom was "a big man, and strong.    If he hadn't been, we would have crashed in phase

training."    He explains that during the landing of a flight in Walla Walla, the flaps malfunctioned and

the B-17 started to nose dive.     Pilot Cope and copilot Cryan "were stout enough to manhandle the

plane and level it back up."

Upon arrival at Thorpe Abbotts, the crew were assigned the

B-17 #231049 (known by the last three digits as "049"),

which they named "Superstitious Aloysius."    A magician

was painted on the nose of the aircraft, along with a

wishbone, a four-leaf clover, and several other good luck

charms.    Ethell and Simonsen's The History of Aircraft

Nose Art explains:

                   "Some nose art characters were painted on

                   many individual aircraft in many areas across

                   the globe.    Superstitious Aloysius was a

                   popular good luck elf who carried just about every charm known to man, including a

                   wishbone, horseshoe, four-leaf clover, tied string (on his nose), and rabbit's foot while

                   crossing his fingers.    These examples in the Eighth Air Force show crews wanted all the

                   luck they could get."

(Photos courtesy J.C. Eling)

"All the luck they could get" (along with discipline and teamwork) brought success to aircraft 049

and its crews.    Bud Frum, one of the four ground crew members who took care of the plane, recalls:

"The Superstitious Aloysius survived the war.    It flew over 100 missions, and we never lost a crew."

   However, several crew members including Tom Cryan were killed while flying on other planes.    In

a March 8, 2000 letter, Bud Frum writes: "Remember freedom has a price and your grandfather's

brother paid the highest.    I was proud to have been associated with him."

Right waist gunner Donald Walker joined Lt. Cope's crew during training in the U.S. in the late

summer of 1943, and traveled with them to England in October of the same year.    Sgt. Walker has

"fond memories" of Tom, and describes him as jolly, youthful, energetic, enthusiastic, and full of life.

   Sgt. Walker recalls that during preparation for a mission, Tom would borrow a motorcycle and ride

around the base, fully outfitted in his heavy padded flight suit, steel vest, and helmet.    As he drove

by on the motorcycle, Tom's comrades would yell "Here comes Cryan!"

Navigator Festus "Shorty" Bryant says that he and Tom were good friends.    "We had a lot of fun

together.    We would go pub crawling -- drink some beer, and shoot some darts.    Tom was one of

the most nonchalant guys I knew.    He would never get worked up about anything.    We would keep

about $5.00 in a pot as spending money, and when someone would ask Tom, 'How much do you

have?' he would answer, 'I don't know, ask Shorty!' (pronounced Shaw-ty, in Tom's Boston accent).

   Tom was a super guy.    He was one of two people that I really looked forward to visiting in the

states after the war."    The other, an officer named Becker, was also killed in action.

Pilot Mark Cope estimates that Lt. Cryan flew with his crew for about 6 to 8 missions, after which Tom

was promoted to become the pilot of another aircraft.    Lt. Cope's cousin, George Cope, says that

Mark tells tales of "barn storming" (recreational low-altitude flying) in a B-17 during training in

Washington State.    Mark has also often spoken of Tom Cryan's ability as a copilot, and of the sad

news of his death.

Ball turret gunner Richard Donnelly remembers Tom as a robust fellow with a big laugh.    He says

that during the early missions while Tom was still flying with Cope's crew, "Everything was new to

us.    Our first mission was an easy one...    They broke us in."    Sgt. Donnelly remembers that

months later, Lt. Cope's crew was on stand down between missions on the day that Tom's plane did

not return.

 

One of the early missions flown by Lieutenants Cope, Cryan, and crew may have played a major role

in preventing Hitler from manufacturing the atomic bomb.    Pilot Owen "Cowboy" Roane, who led

the 100th Bomb Group on the November 16, 1943 mission to Rjukan, Norway, explains that although

they didn't know it at the time, the 100th Bomb Group crews were participating in the destruction of a

Heavy Water plant.

While Lt. Cryan was overseas, his family often waited for months with no news of Tom.    In early

1944, Tom's brother Frank wrote to his brother Gerald, "Tommy should bounce up one of these days

but I'm afraid we won't hear for a while, probably until the end of the war."

As Tom's brother Paul remembers, in March of 1944, Tom had completed his tour and was due to

return home.    Tom's sister Catherine received a letter from another soldier indicating that Tom

would soon be home "without a scratch."    Instead, however, he was assigned to fly as fill-in for

another crew because one of the pilots was ill.    As Paul recalls, "One of (Tom's sister) Eileen's

friends from the Highlands off of School Street was in Tom's squadron and called her and said Tom

would be home in a day or so as he had taken the other mission."

 

The target of the mission was an Augsburg wartime factory which manufactured ball-bearings.  

Sergeant Richard Faulkner, ball-turret gunner for the B-17 "Berlin Playboy," remembers that

twenty-one B-17's from the 100th Bombardment joined more than 600 aircraft involved in the March

18, 1944 mission to Augsburg and Munich.

This was Sgt. Faulkner's first mission.    Although he had only met Tom that morning, he remembered

that as an experienced pilot, Lt. Cryan had been chosen to copilot the Berlin Playboy for the

Augsburg mission.

On the morning of Saturday, March 18, The 100th Bomb Group took off from Thorpe Abbots, England

after being delayed by heavy fog.    En route to Germany, the formation came under heavy flak

(anti-aircraft fire) from the Germans in Northern France.    The group leader pulled out, and when the

planes re-grouped, the Berlin Playboy and another B-17 tried to occupy the same spot in the

formation.

A mid-air collision resulted over the countryside near Neufchatel, and the Berlin Playboy broke apart

at the wing.    Sgt. Faulkner was the only member of the crew who was able to clear the aircraft and

open his parachute.    He was rescued by the French underground, and "spent 28 days behind

German Lines" as he was moved from house to house in the French countryside.    Sgt. Faulkner

communicated with the French patriots by pointing to words in a French/English dictionary.    When

he was finally brought to the coast, he was picked up by British forces in rubber rafts from a PT boat.

   Upon returning to England, Sgt. Faulkner asked where he should sleep.    He was shown a room

full of empty bunks, and was told to take his choice.    None of the previous occupants had returned

from battle.

Century Bombers: the Story of the Bloody Hundredth, by Richard LeStrange, details the fates of the

three 100th Bomb Group planes which failed to return from the Augsburg mission:

 

...It was noted that, at 12.10 and 'over France,' B-17 42-39830, piloted by Paul Martin, had collided with B-17  42-37913, piloted by Donald Stuke...    The man observed bailing out (was) ball-turret gunner Richard Faulkner...   The rest of Lieutenant Martin's crew, including the co-pilot, Thomas Cryan, who originally flew with Mark Cope, were killed.

Only two men bailed out of Lieutenant Stuke's plane, the co-pilot Thomas Lemond, who successfully evaded the Germans, and engineer Daniel Segrete, who was taken prisoner of war.    The rest were killed, including replacement navigator George Owens, from the crew of Donald Rice.

A third plane, 'Bastard's Bungalow II' (42-3508), piloted by Robert Horn and co-piloted by Bart Mahoney, also failed to return due to battle damage.

 

The bombardier Charles Conner, recalls:    'We crash-landed near Ulm, with Lieutenant Horn making a superb smooth dead-stick wheels-up landing in the snow covered back yard of a farmer.    As we climbed out of the airplane we were "greeted" by the very irate farmer and his family armed with pitch forks and pistols, and they held us captive for fifteen to thirty minutes until a half-dozen German military men took control and moved us to the town jail.'

Within a few months after the accident, word reached the Cryan family that the German Government

had identified Tom's body.    Tom's fiancee, Pat Holmes, had been widowed before she was married.

Josie (Ort) O'Connor lost two nephews to the War.    As her daughter Ann O'Connor Raskopf

remembers, "Tom was tall and very handsome.    A totally nice person.    My mother was devastated

when we heard of his death.    He was about the same age as his (and my) cousin John O'Flahavan.  

Both were pilots in the Air Force...    My mother received the message of John's death at about the

same time and she was wiped away by it all."

Josie was a musician who played the piano and several stringed instruments.    She owned a zither,

a classical guitar, and a mandolin which she had treated with care since she was a child.    Upon

hearing that her nephews had been killed, she donated all three of the stringed instruments to the

United Service Organization.    She explained to Ann "They're giving up their lives.    The least we can

do is give away our instruments."

Tom's oldest brother, James, articulated the depth of the loss experienced by the family in a letter to

his youngest brother, Gerald, who was stationed in Alaska when the family in Lowell received the

telegram.    The letter was written on Jim's 36th birthday.

Dear Gerry:

I hope you didn't take the bad news too hard...    In case other letters haven't come through yet and this is the first news you've had about the last telegram from the war dept., the German Gov't reported through the International Red Cross that Tom was killed in action over Germany on March 18th.

It's bad enough for us here to take, but at least we are together and it certainly helps to have the rest of the family around when a thing like this happens.    Don't let it get you down, I always felt that Tom was the one guy in this family that had everything it takes physically, morally, and mentally to make a real success of life, I felt this without any disparagement of the rest of us, because of all the other people I have ever met or known, heard of, or

read about, no one was more qualified to be a leader of men, the father of a family, a good Catholic, and a real gentleman in every worthwhile meaning of that hackneyed word, than Tom.

 

I think the purpose for which God put us here on earth was to know him, love him, and serve him, as the catechism says, and believing this and all the kindred teachings of the church, I must admit that Tom was better prepared to meet him than I am now or ever hope to be though I am here for another fifty years and strive to better my character and understanding throughout every minute of that time.

It can always be a source of pride to you that you belong to a family that can produce a person like Tom.    It is up to all of us to lead good clean lives, to pick when we marry the finest and best woman we can find, and then perhaps with the help of God in a generation or two there will be another Tom, and this time perhaps the race of murderers will be subjugated, and he can live to fulfill the promise of his youth.

Let's not feel too bad about it, after all God is taking care of him no matter where he is and grief is mostly for our own loss.

After reading this letter I hesitate to send it but after all you are not a kid any longer and we can speak as man to man, not as big brother to little brother, and there can be no harm in you knowing how I feel...    That's enough for this letter; I'll write you again in a week or so and let you know how the business is and everything.  with love, Jim

 

Tom's brother Paul remembers a bittersweet meeting that occurred a year after Tom's death.    "In

1945, near the end of the war, I was thumbing home to Bridgeport from New Jersey.    and on the

parkway the car that picked me up picked up an Army man.    In a few minutes he asked if I had a

brother in the Air Corps.    A pilot had given him a ride to a spot in northern England when he couldn't

have gotten to his base on time.    He had only met Tom on this one occasion but made the

connection.    The man was home on leave as he just escaped from a German prisoner of war camp."

On Saturday, June 14, 1949, the

expected arrival of Thomas Cryan's

body in Lowell was announced in the

Lowell Sun, with the headline, "Body of

Local War Hero Due Here Today."    Lt.

Cryan's military funeral and the

corresponding mass at St. Peter's

Church were later described in a Lowell

Sun funeral notice.    Tom's casket was

borne by his six brothers.

 

Thomas Cryan's final resting place is

beside his parents in St. Patrick's

cemetery in Lowell.    A memorial to Lt.

Cryan's sacrifice (erected by the

Tyngsboro Veterans) is marked as

Thomas Cryan Square, located on Westford Road, between Middle Road and Route 40, in

Tyngsboro, Massachussetts.

 

From:        JLedden49@aol.com  | Date:        Mon, 20 Mar 2000 01:21:58 ESTSubject:        [CRYAN] Re: Ship's list, Atty    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Hello Pam,For an arrival of a passenger ship in Boston in 1848, there would be

two versions of the passenger ship list, federal and state.  While they are

generally similar, they are not always identical.  The federal version

is readily available on microfilm.  The state version is harder to get.  I

have looked at microfilm at the Massachusetts States Archives.  It is easy

to tell which you are viewing.  The federal lists are on separate sheets of

paper.  The state lists are in bound reagister books.  The microfilm index to

Boston passenger lists from 1848 to 1890 is based on the state lists.

Family Tree Maker's index search indicates that the Irish to America CD

has entries for Catherine Crean and Kate Crean.  One of them might be my

gggrandmother Catherine Crean.  I think that she arrived in the U.S.

between the 1850 and 1860 censuses.  There are also entries with the names of

her husband's parents, James Ivers and Rosanna Ivers.  They arrived before

1851.  I would appreciate it very much if you would look up the entries. 

Thank you.Jack Ledden

 

From:        RoCryan@aol.com  | Date:        Tue, 21 Mar 2000 20:00:46 EST Subject:        [CRYAN] McMahon    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Hi Sara, Where are your McMahons from?  My Great Grandmother was Sarah

McMahon (paternal) [the following was written by my uncle Arthur- my

Father's brother who still lives in Lowell}

 

GENEALOGY of the CRYAN FAMILY

FRANK McMAHON-ANNA GRIMES

Sarah McMahon, daughter of Frank McMahon and Anna Grimes married James

Cryan. James Cryan, I presume, was my grandfather  on that side of the family.

That provides a starting point. He was born in Ballaghaderreen, County

Roscommon. Since he married Sarah McMahon on October 6, 1859 he was probably born

before 1840. ...

 

Because she was living in England, at Newcastle on Tyne the wedding was

probably in England. That was a fruitful marriage. They had 11

children. We know, or the record says, that James, Anne, Mary, Bridget, Frank,

Thomas were born in England. I thought that Katy was born in England too, but the

list says she was born in USA. Others born in USA were John P., Thomas,

Arthur, Alexander.

So,  are your McMahon's from Massachusetts? and are there Cryan's in

your past?   Rosalie Cryan

 

Date:        Tue, 28 Mar 2000 11:20:48 -0800 (PST)   From:        Caoimhghin O Croidheain <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>  |  Subject:        croghan-boyle     To:        ROSCOMMON-L@rootsweb.com

Hi I have just joined and I was wondering if anyone had

info on Croghan. My great great grandfather, John

Cryan, was the national school teacher (aka Master

Cryan) from about 1860-1905. His wife was Margaret

Dolan and she went to Carrick-on-shannon after he

died. His daughter also taught at the school for a

while. Margaret and John married in Boyle in 1858.

any help would be appreciated caoimhghin o croidheain

(kevin cryan)

 

from:         Kuzzinken@aol.com  | Date:        Tue, 28 Mar 2000 16:14:15 EST Subject:

        Re: [KER] croghan-boyle     To:        caoimhghin@yahoo.com

Kevin,

You probably already known this but in case you do not....the parish

priest in Valentia is Father Shanahan.  That should give you in inside track

into the Shanahan records at the parish.  I understand that they have births

and marriages back to whenever and that he is trying to restore some

semblence of order to the deaths since the cemetery next to the parish.  He is,

however, only at the parish on Wednesdays and for one half day on Sunday.

I have talked to him by phone and he has very little time for genealogy

requests.  In fact I have been trying for six months to get a copy of

my 3rd g grandfather's baptismal records.

Let me know if you find a link with Father Shanahan.

Ken Sullivan  Canyon Lake, Ca

 

   From:        "John Sheerin" <jsheerin@erols.com>  | Subject:        Re: croghan-boyle

   Date:        Tue, 28 Mar 2000 16:53:30 -0500     To:        ROSCOMMON-L@rootsweb.com

Kevin:Don't know if this will help but,

The RC church in Boyle is now called St. Joseph's Catholic Church,  and

atone time it was called the RC Church of Boyle.

My Cryans lived in the lower Deerpark area, outside of Boyle.

Do you know any of John Cryan's parents or his siblings?

There is also a Surname group that we "Cryan" researchers subscribe to

andit's  CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Let me know how your research is going.Warm regards,Jake Sheerin,Annapolis MD

 

From:        "Ray Marshall" <raymarsh@mninter.net>       To:        "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> Subject:        Re: [KER] croghan-boyle   Date:        Tue, 28 Mar 2000 15:58:55 -0600

GreetingsCoincidentally, I just finished typing this newspaper article which I

willbesending to Mary. You no doubt will be quite interested in the Shanahan's mentioned.

Ray Marshall Minneapolis

 

Date:        Tue, 28 Mar 2000 22:33:09 -0500   From:        William McGarry <billmcg@mediaone.net> 

     To:        Caoimhghin O Croidheain <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> Subject:        Re: croghan-boyle

Hi Caoimhghin,What kind of information on Croghan are you looking for.  My family is

from there and I have visited there myself.  It is a very small town.

Let me know if I can help.Bill McGarry

 

From:        "j.liddy" <j.liddy@worldnet.att.net>  | To:        "Kevin" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>

 Subject:        Croghan   Date:        Wed, 29 Mar 2000 11:56:09 -0500

I don't have any written information on it. As you may already know

it's in the western end of the civil parish of Killukin and

Carrick-on-shannon is at the eastern end.  Because of that, I'm

sending along some birth info. that may be related to your family.

JACK

CREGAN, Catharina           Christening

            Sex:    Female

            Birth Date:     8 Aug 1868

            Christening Date:     8 Aug 1868    Recorded in: Roman Catholic, Killucan And Killummond, Roscommon, Ireland

            Father:           Joannes CREGAN

            Mother:           Margaretta DOLAN

 Source:         FHL Number 989741           Dates: 1864-1881

CRYAN, Joannes    Christening

            Sex:    Male

            Christening Date:     11 May 1841 Recorded in: Roman Catholic, Boyle, Roscommon, Ireland

            Father:           Petri CRYAN

            Mother:           Brigidae CARR

 Source:         FHL Number 989743           Dates: 1831-1849

CRYAN, Joannes    Christening

            Sex:    Male

            Christening Date:     15 Aug 1841 Recorded in: Roman Catholic, Boyle, Roscommon, Ireland

            Father:           Michaelis CRYAN

            Mother:           Margaritae DRURY

 Source:         FHL Number 989743           Dates: 1831-1849

CRYAN, Joannem   Christening

            Sex:    Male

            Christening Date:     19 Jun 1844  Recorded in: Roman Catholic, Ardcarn And Tuamna, Roscommon, Ireland

            Father:           Michaelis CRYAN

            Mother:           Margarittae FLANAGAN

 Source:         FHL Number 989746           Dates: 1843-1881

CRYAN, Joannem   Christening

            Sex:    Male

            Christening Date:     18 Jan 1846  Recorded in: Roman Catholic, Killucan And Ballinameen, Roscommon, Ireland

            Father:           Patritii CRYAN

            Mother:           Brigidae FLOOD

 Source:         FHL Number 989741           Dates: 1833-1850

CRYAN, Jacobus     Christening

            Sex:    Male

            Birth Date:     19 May 1866

            Christening Date:     19 May 1866 Recorded in: Roman Catholic, Killucan And Killummond, Roscommon, Ireland

            Father:           Joannes CRYAN

            Mother:           Margaretta DOLAN

 Source:         FHL Number 989741           Dates: 1864-1881

CRYAN, Stephanus Christening

            Sex:    Male

            Birth Date:     26 Dec 1870

            Christening Date:     27 Dec 1870 Recorded in: Roman Catholic, Killucan And Killummond, Roscommon, Ireland

            Father:           Joannes CRYAN

            Mother:           Margaretta DOLAN

 Source:         FHL Number 989741           Dates: 1864-1881

 

 

CREGAN, Catharina           Christening

            Sex:    Female

            Birth Date:     8 Aug 1868

            Christening Date:     8 Aug 1868    Recorded in: Roman Catholic, Killucan And Killummond, Roscommon, Ireland

            Father:           Joannes CREGAN

            Mother:           Margaretta DOLAN

 Source:         FHL Number 989741           Dates: 1864-1881

CRYAN, Jacobus     Christening

            Sex:    Male

            Birth Date:     19 May 1866

            Christening Date:     19 May 1866 Recorded in: Roman Catholic, Killucan And Killummond, Roscommon, Ireland

            Father:           Joannes CRYAN

            Mother:           Margaretta DOLAN

 Source:         FHL Number 989741           Dates: 1864-1881

CRYAN, Stephanus Christening

            Sex:    Male

            Birth Date:     26 Dec 1870

            Christening Date:     27 Dec 1870 Recorded in: Roman Catholic, Killucan And Killummond, Roscommon, Ireland

            Father:           Joannes CRYAN

            Mother:           Margaretta DOLAN

 Source:         FHL Number 989741           Dates: 1864-1881

 

 

DOLAN, Margaritta  Christening

            Sex:    Female

            Christening Date:     7 Jan 1842    Recorded in: Roman Catholic, Boyle, Roscommon, Ireland

            Father:           Patricii DOLAN

            Mother:           Catherinae BREHENY

 Source:         FHL Number 989743           Dates: 1831-1849

DOLAN, Margarittam           Christening

            Sex:    Female

            Christening Date:     29 Jan 1845  Recorded in: Roman Catholic, Killucan And Ballinameen, Roscommon, Ireland

            Father:           Caroli DOLAN

            Mother:           Margarittae FORD

 Source:         FHL Number 989741           Dates: 1833-1850

DOLAN, Margarettam          Christening

            Sex:    Female

            Christening Date:     13 Mar 1846  Recorded in: Roman Catholic, Killucan And Ballinameen, Roscommon, Ireland

            Father:           Jacobi DOLAN

            Mother:           Mariae FIHELY

 Source:         FHL Number 989741           Dates: 1833-1850

 

From:        "John Sheerin" <jsheerin@erols.com   Date:        Thu, 30 Mar 2000 11:25:09 -0500

 Subject:        [CRYAN] Curious! To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

TO ALL:

I re-subscribed to the the "Cryan List" on  19 Mar,

and got confirmation that I was on the Cryan subscriber

list also on the 19th.However, my curiosity is, I haven't seen any Emails coming or going

concerning this list!!Prior to "un-subscribing", was out of town for two weeks,

it appeared to me that this "list' was very active and I had about 3/4

emails daily.Is this just a lull, or what?Just a little concerned!!

My Cryans are from the Boyle area and I grew up in Lowell, MA and now

livein Annapolis MD.We are going back to Ireland on the 1st of June and will be doing some

Cryanresearch there, and hopefully will catchup with Michael Tobin in the Galway area..

Warm regards,Jake Sheerin

 

Date:        Fri, 31 Mar 2000 10:19:47 -0500   From:        Jim Dolan <jimdolan@clarityconnect.com>  |

 Subject:        [CRYAN] My Mayo Creans     To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

My Mayo CREANS come from two directions; from my great great

grandfathersTHOMAS CREAN and ANTHONY THORNTON. CREAN appears more frequently in theTHORNTON line than the CREAN line.

I hope that someone out there recognizes some names and we can make a

connection. I have more data and I am willing to share. I also hope the

formatting survives the cyber trip reasonably intact.

The data from Ireland was obtained from the North Mayo Heritage Centre.

Jim DolanPS: And yes I am aware of UNA's web page and have been in touch with

her.

                        Descendants of Thomas Crean

1  Thomas Crean b: in Currower, Attymass Parish, County Mayo, Ireland  

..+Unknown             

. 2 John Crane b: Abt. 1841 in County Mayo, Ireland     d: May 31, 1908 in

Philadelphia, PA

.....+Maria Thornton b: Abt. 1847 in Breaffy, County Mayo, Ireland      d:

Bef.1900

.....   3 Mary A. Crane b: Oct 12, 1868 in County Mayo, Ireland d: Abt.

1893

.........+Patrick Nealon        b: Abt. 1863 in Ireland d: Apr 17, 1893

.....   3 Bridget Crane b: Jan 11, 1873 in Scranton  PA d: Nov 14, 1963

in Scranton  PA

.........+Joseph Youngblood     b: May 21, 1868 d: Jul 19, 1938

.....   3 John Crane    b: Dec 8, 1876  d: Sep 6, 1958 in Los Angeles CA

.........+Mollie Wilmont               

.....   3 Sarah E. Crane        b: Feb 15, 1878 in Scranton, PA d: Jun 26, 1961

inScranton, PA

.........+William J. Dolan      b: Oct 27, 1877 in Minooka, PA  d: Oct 22,

1951in Scranton, PA

.....   3 Anthony Crane b: Abt. Sep 1883 in Scranton  PA        d: Apr 24, 1902

inScranton, PA

.       2 Mary Crean    b: Abt. 1850 in Ireland d: May 30, 1932 in Scranton  PA

.....   +Werner Flubacher               d: Sep 26, 1935 in Scranton  PA

.       *2nd Husband of Mary Crean:            

.....   +Patt Murphy    b: in Corrower, County Mayo, Ireland

 

                         Descendants of Anthony Thornton

1 Anthony Thornton      b: in Ireland   d: in Ireland

..+Mary Durkan  b: in Ireland   d: in Ireland

.       2 Maria Thornton b: Abt. 1847 in Breaffy, County Mayo, Ireland  d:

Bef. 1900

.....   +John Crane     b: Abt. 1841 in County Mayo, Ireland d: May 31, 1908

inPhil. PA

.....   3  Mary A. Crane b: Oct 12, 1868 in County Mayo, Ireland        d: Abt.

1893

.........+Patrick Nealon        b: Abt. 1863 in Ireland d: Apr 17, 1893

.....   3 Bridget Craneb: Jan 11, 1873 in Scranton  PA  d: Nov 14, 1963 in

Scranton  PA

.........+Joseph Youngblood     b: May 21, 1868 d: Jul 19, 1938

.....   3 John Crane    b: Dec 8, 1876  d: Sep 6, 1958 in Los Angeles CA

.........+Mollie Wilmont               

.....   3 Sarah E. Crane b: Feb 15, 1878 in Scranton, PA d: Jun 26, 1961

inScranton, PA

.........+William J. Dolan      b: Oct 27, 1877 in Minooka, PA  d: Oct 22,

1951in Scranton, PA

.....   3 Anthony Crane b: Abt. Sep 1883 in Scranton  PA        d: Apr 24, 1902

inScranton, PA

.       2 Sara Thornton b: Jun 7, 1853 in Breaffy County Mayo, Ireland 

.....    +Anthony Crean b: in Lisnanagh, County Mayo, Ireland  

.....   3 Patrick Crean b: Feb 15, 1882 in Lisnanagh, County Mayo,

Ireland

.....   3 Michael Crean b: Feb 28, 1883 in Lisnanagh, County Mayo,

Ireland

.........+Ellen Cullen  b: in Ardnaree, County Mayo, Ireland   

.....   3  Anthony Crean        b: Dec 15, 1884 in Lisnanagh, County Mayo,

Ireland

d: Bef. 1891 in Lisnanagh, County Mayo, Ireland

.....   3 James Crean   b: Aug 2, 1886 in Lisnanagh, County Mayo, Ireland      

.....   3 Bridget Crean b: May 6, 1888 in Lisnanagh, County Mayo, Ireland      

.....   3 Anthony Crean b: Aug 4, 1890 in Lisnanagh, County Mayo, Ireland      

.....   3 Margaret Crean        b: Sep 18, 1892 in Lisnanagh, County Mayo,

Ireland

.....   3 Thomas Crean  b: Dec 19, 1894 in Lisnanagh, County Mayo, Ireland     

.....   3 William Crean b: Aug 13, 1896 in Lisnanagh, County Mayo,

Ireland

.       2 Bridget Thornton      b: Abt. 1854 in Breaffy County Mayo, Ireland    d:

Oct20, 1871 in Breaffy County Mayo, Ireland

.       2 Anthony Thornton      b: Oct 9, 1856 in Breaffy County Mayo, Ireland 

.       2 Patrick Thornton      b: Feb 11, 1859 in Breaffy County Mayo, Ireland

.       2 James Thornton        b: Jul 6, 1863 in Breaffy County Mayo, Ireland 

.       2 Michael Thornton      b: Aft. 1864 in Breaffy County Mayo, Ireland    d:

Aug17, 1923 in County Mayo, Ireland

.....   +Margaret Murphy                d: Oct 15, 1922 in County Mayo, Ireland

.....   3 Anthony Thornton      b: Dec 28, 1880 in County Mayo, Ireland

.....   3 Patrick Thornton      b: May 16, 1882 in County Mayo, Ireland

.....   3 John Thornton b: Aug 12, 1883 in County Mayo, Ireland

.....   3 Edward Thornton       b: 1884 in County Mayo, Ireland

.........+Honor Durkan         

.....   3 Mary Thornton b: May 31, 1885 in County Mayo, Ireland

.....   3 Ellen Thornton        b: May 25, 1886 in County Mayo, Ireland

.........+Owen McLoughlin              

.....   3 Margaret Thornton     b: May 12, 1887 in County Mayo, Ireland

.....   3 Michael Thornton      b: Jul 6, 1888 in County Mayo, Ireland  d: Sep

27,1890 in County Mayo, Ireland

.....   3 James Thornton        b: Jul 12, 1889 in County Mayo, Ireland

.....   3 Thomas Thornton       b: Oct 12, 1890 in County Mayo, Ireland

.....   3 Michael ? Thornton    b: Oct 19, 1891 in County Mayo, Ireland

.....   3 Ann Thornton  b: May 9, 1893 in County Mayo, Ireland 

.....   3 Martin Thornton       b: Nov 12, 1894 in County Mayo, Ireland

.........+Helena Connell               

.....   3 Thady Thornton        b: Feb 2, 1897 in County Mayo, Ireland 

.........+Mary Gallagher               

       

 

From:        Voltene@aol.com  | Date:        Sat, 1 Apr 2000 07:39:26 EST

 Subject:        [CRYAN] MA Naturalizations -CRYAN CREAN CREHAN

     To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Hello to the List,

Last time I was at the National Archives in Waltham, MA, I transcribe

the information from the Naturalization Indexes  all  CRYANs,  CREANs and I

think I got all CREHANs   listed in the index.

If anyone would like me to  lookup any of these names,   please e-mail

me privately.Please,  They are the Indexes ONLY,   I do not have the actual record.

I can get the address for you to send for the record. To the following offer I made do lookups,  could you please let me know

the   City or Town your relative lived in.

Karen Murphy

 

Date:        Sat, 3 Apr 1999 20:36:33 -0500     To:        ROSCOMMON-L@rootsweb.com

   From:        Kevin Killion <kevin@shsmedia.com>  |  Subject:        Re: Croghan, schoolteacher

    CC:        caoimhghin@yahoo.com, jsheerin@erols.com, jec255@home.com

 

"Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> said:

>I have just joined and I was wondering if anyone had

>info on Croghan. My great great grandfather, John

>Cryan, was the national school teacher (aka Master

>Cryan) from about 1860-1905. His wife was Margaret

>Dolan and she went to Carrick-on-shannon after he

>died. His daughter also taught at the school for a

>while.>caoimhghin o croidheain

>(kevin cryan)

 

"John Sheerin" <jsheerin@erols.com> said:

>My Cryans lived in the lower Deerpark area, outside of Boyle.

>Do you know any of John Cryan's parents or his siblings?

>There is also a Surname group that we "Cryan" researchers subscribe to

and>it's  CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

>Let me know how your research is going.

>Warm regards,>Jake Sheerin,>Annapolis MD

Kevin and John --I don't know if it's relevant, but in the book "Roscommon Before the

Famine" by William Gacquin, there is this:

   "[In 1826] in Kiltoom parish [Co. Roscommon] there were five

   schools. ... at the Berries (Barrybeg townland) there was

   [a school] in one room twelve feet square.  The teacher was

   Luke Croghan who got 1s. 8d. to 2s. from the pupils."

I noted that because a friend of mine here in Chicago is a John

Croghan,and when I mentioned this to him he said that his family is from this

area.I'm sure he'd welcome any further news:  his address is 

jec255@home.com.-- Kevin Killion

 

 

Date:        Sat, 3 Apr 1999 20:36:33 -0500   From:        Kevin Killion <kevin@shsmedia.com>  | Block address Subject:        Re: Croghan, schoolteacher     To:        ROSCOMMON-L@rootsweb.com

thanks Karen,  My Cryan's came to Boston in May or June 1848.  I would appreciate it

if you could look them up. They are:Atty, Sarah, Wynifred, Patrick ,Michael Anne Timothy James  MarkThanks!Pam Burleson

 

Reply-to:         "Christine O'Donnell" <karri@i-o.net.au>    From:         "Christine O'Donnell" <karri@i-o.net.au>  |  Subject:         Birth Certificates    Date:         Tue, 4 Apr 2000 07:30:17 +1000

      To:         ROSCOMMON-L@rootsweb.com

Dear List Members, I have details of births and christenings extracted from the Vital Records Index and want to know how to go about ordering copies of  the certificates.I have Christening Dates of 1855, 1859 and 1868 all recorded as "Roman Catholic, Killinvoy and Killmain, Co. Roscommon, Ireland" and Birth dates of 1871 recorded in "Civil Registration for Ireland" occuring in

Roscommon, Roscommon, Ireland.All information gratefully received and much appreciated,

Regards,Christine O'Donnell

 

Date:        Tue, 4 Apr 2000 11:42:41 -0700 (PDT)   From: Caoimhghin O Croidheain caoimhghin@yahoo.com>  | Subject:     [CRYAN] sites plus their info     To:  CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

http://www.higginsonbooks.com/c.htm

CRANE Family history, by Sarah S. Crane. 67p.  1911.

$13.50

 CRANE. Henry Crane of Milton, Mass., 1654, & some of

his desc., by E. W.

Leavitt. 29p.  1893. $6.00

 CRANE. Gen. of the Crane fam., desc. of Henry Crane

of Wethersfield &

Guilford, Ct., by E. Crane. 2 vols.  839p.  1900.

$115.00

 CRANE. A branch of the Crane family tree, by Elinor

Lexington et al. 21p.

1923.  $5.50

 CRANE. Extr. from Hist. of Wethersfield, Ct.  7p.

1904. $4.00

 

http://www.usgennet.org/~iljacksn/cemcrain.htm

Crain Cemetery, Crain Baptist Church, Crain Rd. Route

3, Jackson County, IL, Crain Baptist Church, Crain Rd.

Route 3, Jackson County, IL ,

off Route 3 in Jackson Co., about three miles North of

Rt. 149.

Donated by:  Peggy Luthy

Row I

Elizabeth Crain Talbott b. June 7, 1820, d. Feb 2,

1891 spouse: W. E. Talbot

Norris Crain b. Oct. 17, 1835, d. Nov. 11, 1873 aged

38 yr. 1 mo., 24 Ds

Infant son of Norris & Isabella Crain b & d Sept. 13,

1872

Sylvester son of Norris & Isabella Crain b. Jan. 8,

1872, d. Aug. 1, 1872

Infant son of William & b. Feb. 3, 1870, d. Feb 9,

1870 RowII

 

Locothy Crain , infant son of Squire & Louisa Crain

Ellis Crain, b. Dec. 10, 1818 d. Feb. 28, 1843 aged 24

yrs, 2 mo. 18 ds.

William M. infant son of Squire & Louisa Crain ----no

dates

Margaret Crain b. Feb 19, 1831, d. Jan 15, 1845 aged

13 yrs 11 mo, 5ds.

Gincy Crain b. May 12, 1829 , d. Feb 16, 1848 aged 18

yrs 9 mo 4ds.

 RowIII

Amanda wife of Norris Crain born Nov. 1848 died Feb.

2, 1868 20th yr of her age

Joseph Crain son of Norris & Amanda b & d Feb AD 1868

Lewis J. Woodrick b. dec. 24, 1851, d. Aug. 4, 1874

aged 22 yrs 6mo 10d.included because his stone is in

the middle of the Crain's

Dorcus consort of Leonard Woolrick d. Dec 1851 27yrs,

10mo, 12ds.

Warren Crain born Dec. 25, 1824, d. Feb. 10, 1845

20yrs 1mo 25 ds

Squire Crain died Nov. 14, 1846 aged 61 yrs 3 mo 13

ds.

Louisa (Mansker) Crain  wife of Squire

Nancy Crain daughter of Squire & Louisa died Dec. 11,

1855 aged 22 yrs 11 mo 17 Ds.

Infant daughter of Willis & Mary A. Crain born Sept.

17, 1855, died Oct. 1, 1855

Ellie Crain son of Willis & Mary A. Crain  b Jan 22,

1860 d Dec 21, 1860 10mo, 29ds.

Walker Crain son of Willis & Mary A. Crain Mar. 9,

1868 aged 3 yrs 16ds.

Hubert Crain son of Willis & Mary died Nov. 19, 1878

1yr 4mo 3 days

Hattie Crain dau. of Willis & Mary Crain died Mar. 11,

1881 aged 5yrs 8mo 3ds.

In heaven one angel more

On earth one darling less,

Pass'd away to the other shore,

Dear little Hattie is gone to rest.

Mary A. wife of Willis Crain died Mar 23, 1884 aged

48yrs 5mo 15ds

Milla, daughter of H. & M. Crain, d. Oct. 2, 1884,

aged 7mo, 23ds.

Willis Crain d. Sep 27, 1898 aged 70yrs 6mo 29ds

 

http://www.usgennet.org/~iljacksn/cemcrpaum.htm

Creekpaum Cemetery, Jackson Co. IL

Donated by Peggy Luthy

Phineas Crain 1890-1921 Mollie his wife 1896-1972

Corydon Crain & Wife Amanda C. Corydon Aug 26, 1853

Aug. 17, 1851 July 9, 1936 July 25, 1928

Solomon Crain-- Brother Dec. 22, 1873--Sep. 16, 1895 (

located beside Corydon Crain's stone, brother?)

Crain Reuben 1871-1925 (son of George & Cathrine)

Ollie Bean his wife, 1872--1925 (* both were killed in

the Murphysboro tornado of March 1925) * information

from Ralph Crain, son of Otis & Margaret.

Crain Otis 1889--1962 (son of Friend & Rebecca)

Margaret 1890--1987 (his wife) ( daughter of Henry &

Julia Ditzler)

Harry Crain 1888-1920 (son of George & Cathrine)

Crain George 1846--1924 (son of Friend & Elizabeth)

Cathrine 1846--1930 (Arndell/Arnold)

Crain Friend 1867--1938 (son of George & Cathrine)

Rebecca 1865--1954 (daughter of John & Elizabeth

Henson)

Viva Crain Daughter of F & R Crain born Sep. 26, 1891

died April 19, 1911

Ruth Crain Daughter of F & R Crain Born Sep. 4, 1896

Died Apr. 13, 1910

Dewey Crain 1898--1970 ( Joe-- son of Friend &

Rebecca)

Crain Friend Crain 1808--1895 Elizabeth his wife

1815--1910 (House) "They were among the earliest

pioneers of this communtiy"

Crain Burl Floyd Oct. 16, 1900--Jan. 17, 1979 Jennie

Mae June 7, 1900--Nov. 17, 1990 (his wife)

Crain Riley L. 1871--1918 (son of George & Cathrine)

Ada L. 1874--1971 (his wife)

Blanche 1893--1895 (daughter of Riley & Ada Crain)

Louise 1913--1974 (daughter of Riley & Ada Crain)

Huckaba--married Nov. 18, 1939 Roy 1897--1979 Julia M.

1910--1977 (daughter of Riley & Ada Crain)

Violet wife of A. C. Crain born Oct. 9, 1855 died Jan

9, 1897 (Johnson) Ashby C. Crain 1857--1915

Crain Clain Crain 1870--1932 (son of George & Cathrine

Crain) Janey his wife 1866-- 1925 (*killed in the

Murphysboro tornado March 1925)

Omar son of C. & Jane Crain Apr. 1899 aged 3 yrs. 1

mo. 6d.

Crain Samuel 1856--1893 Louisa 1861--1915

Orlan Crain died Feb. 6, 1889 aged 21? (B.F. Wolf on

same stone)

Hannah Crain daughter of (George & Cathrine?)

Ronnie Loyd Crain son of T. &E. J. Crain

Halllie son of Wm & H. Crain died Jun. 18, 188_

Catherine wife of J. R. Crain died Jan. 30, 1893 aged

41 yrs. (wife of John Rice Crain)

John W. & Elizabeth Henson, John b. 8 Dec, 1835, D. 28

Jan, 1920.  Elizabeth, nee TOW, b. 28 July, 1838, d.

20 July, 1916

Henson Cassandra J. Hadley (James Hadley, son of John

W. & Elizabeth) Aug. 1, 1867 Feb. 20, 1862 Jan. 11,

1942 Jan. 20, 1942

Henson Eva died Mar 10, 1892 aged 1yr 6mo 10Ds

(daughter of J.H. & C. Henson)

Henson Mamie died Feb 25, 1899 aged 4yr 11mo 25days

(daughter of J. H. & C. Henson)

Smith James M. Mary J. (daughter of John & Elizabeth

Henson) 1864--1946 1868--1935

Benjamin Henson died Feb. 9, 1871 51yrs 2mo 19da

Elizabeth Henson b. Oct. 11, 1829 d. Dec. 23, 1873

(these two stones were side by side)

Susan wife of Harmon Hann Apr. 18, 1883 aged 32y 8m 4d

Ollie Schaeffer d. Jul. 16, 1911

David H. and Carrie Jane Henson.  Both were born in

the mid 1850s, died in the late 1930s.

Isabell Henson, b. 1869, d. 1957.

Edward and Noda Henson, b. 1884, d. mid 1950s.

Names donated by Lauri Gray-Stowesand

Cripps

Samuel 1842-1916

Lavina (his wife) 1845-1892

Crain, Friend

1808-1895

Elizabeth (his wife)

1815-1910

"They were among the earliest

pioneers of this community."

 

Date:        Tue, 4 Apr 2000 12:18:35 -0700 (PDT)   From:        Caoimhghin O Croidheain <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>  | Block address Subject:        [CRYAN] more     To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

http://seeker.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/htsearch

Search results for 'cryan'

ISTG Vol 2 - City of Berlin

...  Labr England Cornwall NYork Lower Deck No1 Port 1

Prot.soj. 6 Rd. Stevens 52 Male Labr England Plymouth

Penn Lower Deck No1 Port 1 Prot.soj. 7 Ed Cryan 16

Male Labr England Oldham Mass Lower Deck No1 Port 1

Prot.soj. 8 John McKinner 24 Male Engr. England Lpool

Boston Lower Deck No1 Port 1 Prot.soj. ...

http://istg.rootsweb.com/v2/1800v2/berlinco18891019_205_408.html

, 31603 bytes

 

ISTG - Passenger Surnames: C

...  Ann CRUTT?N Barque Mahaica CRUTTAN Barque Mahaica

CRUTTON Barque Mahaica CRUZ ARARYO, CAPTAIN Brig Laura

CRUY SS Canada CRY?LER Ship London Packet CRYAN City

of Berlin CRYBILE Ship Friendship CRYEN Bark Abby Land

CRYFLER Ship London Packet CRYPLER Ship London Packet

CRYSMEYER Snow Two Sisters CRYSTAL ...

http://istg.rootsweb.com/v2/surnamesv2/splcr_v2.htm ,

66053 bytes

 

ISTG Vol 2 - City of Berlin

...  Labr England Cornwall NYork Lower Deck No1 Port 1

Prot.soj. 6 Rd. Stevens 52 Male Labr England Plymouth

Penn Lower Deck No1 Port 1 Prot.soj. 7 Ed Cryan 16

Male Labr England Oldham Mass Lower Deck No1 Port 1

Prot.soj. 8 John McKinner 24 Male Engr. England Lpool

Boston Lower Deck No1 Port 1 Prot.soj. ...

http://istg.rootsweb.com/v2/1800v2/berlinco18891019_205_408.html

, 31603 bytes

 

ISTG - Passenger Surnames: C

...  Ann CRUTT?N Barque Mahaica CRUTTAN Barque Mahaica

CRUTTON Barque Mahaica CRUZ ARARYO, CAPTAIN Brig Laura

CRUY SS Canada CRY?LER Ship London Packet CRYAN City

of Berlin CRYBILE Ship Friendship CRYEN Bark Abby Land

CRYFLER Ship London Packet CRYPLER Ship London Packet

CRYSMEYER Snow Two Sisters CRYSTAL ...

http://istg.rootsweb.com/v2/surnamesv2/splcr_v2.htm ,

66053 bytes

 Date:        Tue, 4 Apr 2000 12:23:09 -0700 (PDT)   From:        Caoimhghin O Croidheain <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>  | Block address Subject: [CRYAN] social sec index cryan

     To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Social Security Death Index Search Results

 

February 2000 Update - 63,305,772 records - Updated

MonthlyThe most full-featured and up-to-date SSDI searchengine on the internet

 

Field   Value   Records Results

Last Name       CRYAN   237     237

Results 1 thru 15 of 237

Name    Birth   Death   Last Residence  Last Benefit    SSN

Issued  Tools

RUTH CRYAN      01 Dec 1915     Oct 1982        99687 (Wasilla,

Matanuska Susitna, AK)  (none specified)        008-01-4232

Vermont SS-5 Letter

Add Post-em

GEORGE CRYAN    16 Oct 1887     Jan 1977        05101 (Bellows

Falls, Windham, VT)     (none specified)        008-07-3545

Vermont SS-5 Letter

Add Post-em

JOHN CRYAN      20 May 1925     Sep 1979        (not specified) 03246

(Laconia, Belknap, NH)  009-10-8531     Vermont SS-5 Letter

Add Post-em

JOSEPHINE CRYAN 30 Nov 1897     Jun 1979        (not specified)

05101 (Bellows Falls, Windham, VT)      009-14-8104     Vermont

SS-5 Letter

Add Post-em

ROBERT CRYAN    11 May 1927     Jun 1956        (not specified)

(none specified)        010-22-1182     Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

Add Post-em

JAMES CRYAN     25 May 1901     15 Jun 1966     01851 (Lowell,

Middlesex, MA)  (none specified)        011-32-7930

Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

Add Post-em

IRENE CRYAN     19 Apr 1906     Mar 1975        01850 (Lowell,

Middlesex, MA)  (none specified)        011-50-1603

Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

Add Post-em

MARTIN CRYAN    17 Dec 1899     16 Sep 1996     01906 (Saugus,

Essex, MA)      (none specified)        012-03-1171     Massachusetts

SS-5 Letter

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MICHAEL CRYAN   10 Jun 1907     Apr 1986        02072 (Stoughton,

Norfolk, MA)    (none specified)        012-09-6949

Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

Add Post-em

JOSEPH CRYAN    03 Jun 1931     Jul 1974        (not specified)

(none specified)        013-22-8176     Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

Add Post-em

IRMA CRYAN      07 Jan 1904     15 Nov 1997     19018 (Clifton

Heights, Delaware, PA)  (none specified)        013-32-5329

Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

Add Post-em

MARY CRYAN      06 Jul 1891     15 Aug 1988     02138 (Cambridge,

Middlesex, MA)  (none specified)        014-40-3887

Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

Add Post-em

ELIZABETH CRYAN 19 Apr 1889     Jun 1981        01904 (Lynn,

Essex, MA)      (none specified)        014-50-9926     Massachusetts

SS-5 Letter

Add Post-em

PAUL CRYAN      10 Feb 1927     21 Jun 1999     02891 (Westerly,

Washington, RI) (none specified)        015-20-6548

Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

Add Post-em

FLORENCE CRYAN  24 May 1907     31 May 1999     01879

(Tyngsboro, Middlesex, MA)      (none specified)

015-20-6870     Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

 

Results 16 thru 30 of 237

Name    Birth   Death   Last Residence  Last Benefit    SSN

Issued  Tools

MARY CRYAN      01 Nov 1886     May 1978        02115 (Boston,

Suffolk, MA)    02215 (Boston, Suffolk, MA)     017-28-0289

Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

Add Post-em

TIMOTHY CRYAN   30 Apr 1918     May 1970        (not specified)

(none specified)        018-12-7151     Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

Add Post-em

MARGARET CRYAN  09 Oct 1902     Nov 1967        01907 (Swampscott,

Essex, MA)      (none specified)        018-22-5512     Massachusetts

SS-5 Letter

Add Post-em

BRENDAN CRYAN   16 Sep 1920     Nov 1984        01880 (Wakefield,

Middlesex, MA)  (none specified)        019-12-5659

Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

Add Post-em

AGNES CRYAN     21 Sep 1893     Jul 1968        02601 (Hyannis,

Barnstable, MA) (none specified)        019-20-7607

Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

Add Post-em

DELIMA CRYAN    12 Dec 1895     Aug 1980        01852 (Lowell,

Middlesex, MA)  (none specified)        019-38-5327

Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

Add Post-em

MARY CRYAN      30 Apr 1909     31 Dec 1995     (not specified)

(none specified)        019-38-7670     Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

Add Post-em

EILEEN CRYAN    25 Apr 1911     May 1985        01854 (Lowell,

Middlesex, MA)  (none specified)        019-50-6427

Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

Add Post-em

ANDREW CRYAN    10 Jul 1889     Oct 1962        (Massachusetts)

(none specified)        020-05-8212     Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

Add Post-em

ONEIL CRYAN     02 Jan 1918     13 Dec 1984     92054 (Oceanside,

San Diego, CA)  (none specified)        020-07-0222

Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

Add Post-em

MADELINE CRYAN  11 Jun 1908     19 Dec 1992     03842 (Hampton,

Rockingham, NH) (none specified)        020-14-1585

Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

Add Post-em

PHILIP CRYAN    27 Feb 1912     Aug 1973        (not specified)

(none specified)        021-07-0175     Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

Add Post-em

KATHERINE CRYAN 09 Nov 1889     Oct 1969        02115 (Boston,

Suffolk, MA)    (none specified)        021-26-5108

Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

Add Post-em

MARGARET CRYAN  29 May 1911     09 Mar 1999     33462 (Lake

Worth, Palm Beach, FL)  (none specified)        022-01-2482

Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

Add Post-em

JAMES CRYAN     11 Nov 1922     26 Nov 1994     28751 (Maggie

Valley, Haywood, NC)    (none specified)        022-16-8028

Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

 

Results 31 thru 45 of 237

Name    Birth   Death   Last Residence  Last Benefit    SSN

Issued  Tools

HELEN CRYAN     03 Dec 1888     Mar 1983        33904 (Cape Coral,

Lee, FL)        (none specified)        023-38-8448     Massachusetts

SS-5 Letter

Add Post-em

WALTER CRYAN    08 Feb 1903     Dec 1973        02139 (Cambridge,

Middlesex, MA)  (none specified)        024-01-1940

Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

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JOHN CRYAN      19 Aug 1908     Nov 1967        02171 (Quincy,

Norfolk, MA)    (none specified)        024-20-0313

Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

Add Post-em

ALMA CRYAN      07 Jan 1908     Nov 1970        02149 (Everett,

Middlesex, MA)  (none specified)        026-12-4380

Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

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JOHN CRYAN      27 May 1923     13 Feb 1999     01832 (Haverhill,

Essex, MA)      (none specified)        026-18-5977     Massachusetts

SS-5 Letter

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ANNIE CRYAN     01 Jun 1880     Nov 1972        02131 (Roslindale,

Suffolk, MA)    (none specified)        026-20-9890

Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

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HELEN CRYAN     12 Aug 1948     03 Jul 1998     02155 (Medford,

Middlesex, MA)  (none specified)        026-38-1271

Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

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FRANCIS CRYAN   01 Mar 1910     Apr 1981        01879 (Tyngsboro,

Middlesex, MA)  (none specified)        027-05-6235

Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

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MARY CRYAN      30 Jul 1889     Sep 1983        02155 (Medford,

Middlesex, MA)  (none specified)        027-05-7801

Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

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MARY CRYAN      27 Feb 1905     Jul 1969        02145 (Somerville,

Middlesex, MA)  (none specified)        027-07-4152

Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

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THOMAS CRYAN    25 Apr 1916     Sep 1975        (not specified)

(none specified)        028-09-6667     Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

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GERALD CRYAN    12 Sep 1924     01 Aug 1999     06430 (Fairfield,

Fairfield, CT)  (none specified)        029-14-1394

Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

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NATALIE CRYAN   03 Sep 1923     Aug 1980        02144 (Somerville,

Middlesex, MA)  (none specified)        029-18-6393

Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

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RUTH CRYAN      02 Nov 1917     Jul 1981        (not specified) 01450

(Groton, Middlesex, MA) 031-05-1696     Massachusetts   SS-5

Letter

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JAMES CRYAN     22 Jul 1908     Jan 1990        (HC)    (none specified)

033-10-1848     Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

 

Results 46 thru 60 of 237

Name    Birth   Death   Last Residence  Last Benefit    SSN

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JOHN CRYAN      21 Dec 1900     Feb 1975        01850 (Lowell,

Middlesex, MA)  (none specified)        033-10-7017

Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

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ROSE CRYAN      09 Nov 1894     Dec 1979        01826 (Dracut,

Middlesex, MA)  01854 (Lowell, Middlesex, MA)

033-10-9466     Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

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PATRICK CRYAN   02 Dec 1903     Jul 1973        32074 (Florida)

(none specified)        034-01-7716     Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

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BESSIE CRYAN    25 Feb 1900     15 Aug 1997     01902 (Lynn,

Essex, MA)      (none specified)        041-09-2236     Connecticut

SS-5 Letter

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LORETTA CRYAN   02 Oct 1919     04 Dec 1991     (not specified)

(none specified)        041-14-2342     Connecticut     SS-5 Letter

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PEARL CRYAN     06 Feb 1923     Mar 1977        (not specified) 06430

(Fairfield, Fairfield, CT)      046-18-0835     Connecticut

SS-5 Letter

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JOSEPHINE CRYAN 23 Aug 1908     Nov 1980        10465 (Bronx,

Bronx, NY)      (none specified)        050-22-6481     New York        SS-5

Letter

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A CRYAN 16 Oct 1946     Jun 1988        (not specified) (none

specified)      052-40-5450     New York        SS-5 Letter

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MARGARET CRYAN  06 Sep 1890     Jan 1965        11374 (Rego Park,

Queens, NY)     (none specified)        053-07-9461     New York        SS-5

Letter

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BRIDGET CRYAN   27 Aug 1900     25 Mar 1993     07733 (Holmdel,

Monmouth, NJ)   (none specified)        053-36-2315     New York

SS-5 Letter

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NELLIE CRYAN    18 Sep 1887     Aug 1984        14210 (Buffalo,

Erie, NY)       (none specified)        055-38-5190     New York        SS-5

Letter

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GABRIELLE CRYAN 27 Dec 1908     May 1982        11697 (Breezy

Point, Queens, NY)      (none specified)        057-05-3601     New

York    SS-5 Letter

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KATHLEEN CRYAN  22 May 1908     Aug 1982        10462 (Bronx,

Bronx, NY)      (none specified)        057-07-1272     New York        SS-5

Letter

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JOHN CRYAN      06 Jan 1881     Aug 1966        06409 (Centerbrook,

Middlesex, CT)  (none specified)        057-09-6690     New York

SS-5 Letter

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KATHERINE CRYAN 01 Feb 1888     Jul 1968        07050 (Orange,

Essex, NJ)      (none specified)        057-10-2705     New York        SS-5

Letter

 

Results 61 thru 75 of 237

Name    Birth   Death   Last Residence  Last Benefit    SSN

Issued  Tools

ETHEL CRYAN     12 Sep 1903     Dec 1986        05401 (Burlington,

Chittenden, VT) (none specified)        058-52-9962     New York

SS-5 Letter

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JOHN CRYAN      26 Jun 1913     Jul 1987        01863 (North

Chelmsford, Middlesex, MA)      (none specified)

063-10-8507     New York        SS-5 Letter

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MARY CRYAN      14 Jun 1891     Mar 1965        (New Jersey)    (none

specified)      065-14-5262     New York        SS-5 Letter

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WILLIAM CRYAN   11 Feb 1921     Sep 1977        (not specified)

(none specified)        066-12-2065     New York        SS-5 Letter

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MARY CRYAN      06 May 1901     Jun 1977        XX900 (Europe)  (none

specified)      066-34-0340     New York        SS-5 Letter

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MARION CRYAN    05 Sep 1896     20 Oct 1995     11725 (Commack,

Suffolk, NY)    (none specified)        067-52-7761     New York

SS-5 Letter

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EDITH CRYAN     18 Nov 1922     Nov 1974        (not specified) (none

specified)      069-18-9213     New York        SS-5 Letter

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VINCENT CRYAN   27 Dec 1914     19 Sep 1990     (not specified)

(none specified)        071-03-6218     New York        SS-5 Letter

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JOHN CRYAN      17 Mar 1909     May 1974        13323 (Clinton,

Oneida, NY)     (none specified)        074-18-6738     New York        SS-5

Letter

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MARGARET CRYAN  24 Mar 1884     Dec 1967        13357 (Ilion,

Herkimer, NY)   (none specified)        077-09-9229     New York

SS-5 Letter

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ALICE CRYAN     07 Dec 1893     Aug 1991        08618 (Trenton,

Mercer, NJ)     (none specified)        079-05-9583     New York        SS-5

Letter

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THOMAS CRYAN    08 Apr 1899     Nov 1964        11225 (Brooklyn,

Kings, NY)      (none specified)        083-09-4963     New York        SS-5

Letter

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HAZEL CRYAN     27 May 1892     Nov 1979        11361 (Bayside,

Queens, NY)     11361 (Bayside, Queens, NY)     083-20-8929

New York        SS-5 Letter

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JOHN CRYAN      17 Aug 1898     Oct 1986        05401 (Burlington,

Chittenden, VT) (none specified)        084-32-4329     New York

SS-5 Letter

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SARAH CRYAN     22 Nov 1889     Dec 1967        11429 (Queens

Village, Queens, NY)    (none specified)        092-01-3169     New

York    SS-5 Letter

 

Results 76 thru 90 of 237

Name    Birth   Death   Last Residence  Last Benefit    SSN

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JAMES CRYAN     04 Dec 1896     Oct 1967        33311 (Fort

Lauderdale, Broward, FL)        (none specified)        092-07-7615

New York        SS-5 Letter

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JOHN CRYAN      05 May 1882     Jan 1964        (New York)      (none

specified)      093-01-2385     New York        SS-5 Letter

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ROBERT CRYAN    25 Nov 1921     Mar 1970        (not specified)

(none specified)        095-14-0818     New York        SS-5 Letter

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JAMES CRYAN     21 Mar 1900     May 1977        11010 (Franklin

Square, Nassau, NY)     (none specified)        096-03-6564     New

York    SS-5 Letter

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RAYMOND CRYAN   29 Aug 1905     Jan 1972        10462 (Bronx,

Bronx, NY)      (none specified)        103-12-3486     New York        SS-5

Letter

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HELEN CRYAN     13 May 1913     03 Oct 1990     (not specified)

(none specified)        103-16-6251     New York        SS-5 Letter

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MICHAEL CRYAN   08 Sep 1886     Aug 1965        (New York)      (none

specified)      103-32-3505     New York        SS-5 Letter

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CLARICE CRYAN   09 Feb 1901     Sep 1976        14225 (Buffalo,

Erie, NY)       (none specified)        104-14-0397     New York        SS-5

Letter

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ROBERT CRYAN    12 Nov 1908     28 Aug 1995     14127 (Orchard

Park, Erie, NY) (none specified)        105-10-3823     New York

SS-5 Letter

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WILLIAM CRYAN   22 Feb 1899     Jan 1980        14225 (Buffalo,

Erie, NY)       14224 (Buffalo, Erie, NY)       106-03-3363     New

York    SS-5 Letter

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JAMES CRYAN     07 May 1913     Jul 1990        (not specified) (none

specified)      106-03-3364     New York        SS-5 Letter

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CATHERINE CRYAN 22 Jul 1888     Jan 1971        11230 (Brooklyn,

Kings, NY)      (none specified)        106-32-2264     New York        SS-5

Letter

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K CRYAN 02 May 1936     15 Mar 1990     (PE)    (none specified)

109-34-2327     New York        SS-5 Letter

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ALBERT CRYAN    17 Jan 1914     09 Jun 1998     21224 (Baltimore,

Baltimore City, MD)     (none specified)        110-24-7917     New

York    SS-5 Letter

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CORNELIUS CRYAN 18 Jul 1917     27 May 1996     11542 (Glen

Cove, Nassau, NY)       (none specified)        112-09-0572     New

York    SS-5 Letter

 

Results 91 thru 105 of 237

 

Date:        Tue, 4 Apr 2000 12:24:33 -0700 (PDT)   From:        Caoimhghin O Croidheain <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>  | Block address Subject:        [CRYAN] social sec index cryan part 2

Name    Birth   Death   Last Residence  Last Benefit    SSN

Issued  Tools

PATRICK CRYAN   28 Oct 1895     Aug 1965        XX900 (Europe)

(none specified)        113-20-5835     New York        SS-5 Letter

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MARY CRYAN      05 Aug 1894     Jan 1987        10471 (Bronx, Bronx,

NY)     (none specified)        113-40-9807     New York        SS-5 Letter

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JOHN CRYAN      08 Jul 1910     Apr 1981        11694 (Rockaway Park,

Queens, NY)     (none specified)        115-03-9329     New York        SS-5

Letter

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FRANK CRYAN     17 Sep 1901     24 Feb 1989     33432 (Boca Raton,

Palm Beach, FL) (none specified)        116-01-3699     New York

SS-5 Letter

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GLADYS CRYAN    09 Aug 1896     Nov 1981        14225 (Buffalo,

Erie, NY)       (none specified)        118-07-7995     New York        SS-5

Letter

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MARGARET CRYAN  31 Oct 1924     15 Nov 1990     (not specified)

(none specified)        121-22-5620     New York        SS-5 Letter

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EUGENE CRYAN    15 Oct 1915     Nov 1980        10512 (Carmel,

Putnam, NY)     10512 (Carmel, Putnam, NY)      130-03-7533     New

York    SS-5 Letter

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CHARLES CRYAN   13 Jan 1893     Oct 1966        07882 (Washington,

Warren, NJ)     (none specified)        131-07-7920     New York        SS-5

Letter

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ELLEN CRYAN     13 Jul 1912     Jan 1982        14127 (Orchard Park,

Erie, NY)       (none specified)        132-58-6010     New York        SS-5

Letter

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ANNA CRYAN      05 Apr 1902     Aug 1976        14223 (Buffalo, Erie,

NY)     (none specified)        133-12-2190     New York        SS-5 Letter

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FRANCIS CRYAN   12 Apr 1904     Jul 1972        14216 (Buffalo,

Erie, NY)       (none specified)        133-24-8461     New York        SS-5

Letter

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JOHN CRYAN      14 Jan 1901     May 1964        (New Jersey)    (none

specified)      135-09-0281     New Jersey      SS-5 Letter

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MAE CRYAN       14 Jul 1913     Jul 1984        07730 (Hazlet,

Monmouth, NJ)   (none specified)        135-09-2026     New Jersey

SS-5 Letter

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THOMAS CRYAN    22 Jan 1928     Dec 1986        07009 (Cedar Grove,

Essex, NJ)      07009 (Cedar Grove, Essex, NJ)  135-20-1105

New Jersey      SS-5 Letter

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HENRIETTA CRYAN 20 Feb 1890     Jan 1981        07050 (Orange,

Essex, NJ)      (none specified)        135-54-3436     New Jersey

SS-5 Letter

 

Results 106 thru 120 of 237

Name    Birth   Death   Last Residence  Last Benefit    SSN

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DOROTHEA CRYAN  04 Mar 1933     Mar 1970        08826 (Glen

Gardner, Hunterdon, NJ) (none specified)        136-26-7815

New Jersey      SS-5 Letter

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HENRY CRYAN     29 Mar 1919     Dec 1965        (not specified) (none

specified)      136-28-3314     New Jersey      SS-5 Letter

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PATRICK CRYAN   16 Aug 1900     Nov 1972        08075 (Riverside,

Burlington, NJ) (none specified)        137-18-3035     New

Jersey  SS-5 Letter

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CHARLES CRYAN   06 Feb 1923     May 1980        (not specified)

(none specified)        138-14-5772     New Jersey      SS-5 Letter

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JULIA CRYAN     06 Jan 1877     Jan 1973        07874 (Stanhope,

Sussex, NJ)     (none specified)        138-54-1631     New Jersey

SS-5 Letter

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FRANCIS CRYAN   23 Jul 1919     Apr 1984        90044 (Los Angeles,

Los Angeles, CA)        (none specified)        139-24-5667     New

Jersey  SS-5 Letter

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JOHN CRYAN      29 Sep 1943     Jan 1971        (not specified) (none

specified)      139-34-5736     New Jersey      SS-5 Letter

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JOHN CRYAN      25 Feb 1929     Aug 1975        (not specified) (none

specified)      139-36-2403     New Jersey      SS-5 Letter

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MARY CRYAN      28 Jun 1915     Jun 1992        20723 (Laurel, Howard,

MD)     20723 (Laurel, Howard, MD)      140-10-6211     New Jersey

SS-5 Letter

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BRIDGET CRYAN   23 Apr 1893     Oct 1979        07003 (Bloomfield,

Essex, NJ)      (none specified)        140-34-9475     New Jersey

SS-5 Letter

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JAMES CRYAN     15 Jan 1884     Jun 1966        07042 (Montclair,

Essex, NJ)      (none specified)        141-07-8038     New Jersey

SS-5 Letter

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BERNARD CRYAN   03 May 1917     Aug 1979        08826 (Glen

Gardner, Hunterdon, NJ) 08809 (Clinton, Hunterdon, NJ)

141-18-3308     New Jersey      SS-5 Letter

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JOHN CRYAN      29 Apr 1920     17 Dec 1996     08518 (Florence,

Burlington, NJ) (none specified)        141-18-5586     New

Jersey  SS-5 Letter

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ANNE CRYAN      29 Dec 1909     21 Aug 1989     07456 (Ringwood,

Passaic, NJ)    (none specified)        141-22-5128     New Jersey

SS-5 Letter

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PATRICIA CRYAN  06 Oct 1948     22 Jul 1997     (72)    (none

specified)      141-46-0654     New Jersey      SS-5 Letter

 

Results 121 thru 135 of 237

Name    Birth   Death   Last Residence  Last Benefit    SSN

Issued  Tools

CLARA CRYAN     06 Apr 1913     02 Aug 1996     08610 (Trenton,

Mercer, NJ)     (none specified)        142-01-3975     New Jersey

SS-5 Letter

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JOSEPH CRYAN    01 Jan 1910     Dec 1985        08619 (Trenton,

Mercer, NJ)     08619 (Trenton, Mercer, NJ)     142-01-8222

New Jersey      SS-5 Letter

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JOHN CRYAN      11 Jan 1901     13 Jun 1992     (not specified)

(none specified)        142-03-6936     New Jersey      SS-5 Letter

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JOHN CRYAN      29 Jan 1919     04 Apr 1993     07747 (Matawan,

Monmouth, NJ)   (none specified)        142-14-7895     New Jersey

SS-5 Letter

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HOHN CRYAN      23 Jun 1923     Feb 1976        (not specified) (none

specified)      142-16-6477     New Jersey      SS-5 Letter

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MARILYN CRYAN   02 Mar 1937     30 Sep 1995     (not specified)

(none specified)        142-28-6871     New Jersey      SS-5 Letter

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DORIS CRYAN     17 Feb 1928     31 Dec 1998     07013 (Clifton,

Passaic, NJ)    (none specified)        143-20-5199     New Jersey

SS-5 Letter

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THOMAS CRYAN    01 Dec 1889     15 Jun 1973     07003

(Bloomfield, Essex, NJ) (none specified)        143-30-4063

New Jersey      SS-5 Letter

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ROBERT CRYAN    18 Dec 1910     Jan 1983        07730 (Hazlet,

Monmouth, NJ)   07730 (Hazlet, Monmouth, NJ)    145-03-8085

New Jersey      SS-5 Letter

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JOSEPH CRYAN    19 Apr 1926     Jul 1981        08628 (Trenton,

Mercer, NJ)     08608 (Trenton, Mercer, NJ)     145-16-6745

New Jersey      SS-5 Letter

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CHARLES CRYAN   10 Feb 1923     03 May 1980     59068 (Red

Lodge, Carbon, MT)      84107 (Salt Lake City, Salt Lake,

UT)     145-16-7398     New Jersey      SS-5 Letter

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EDWARD CRYAN    02 Aug 1909     26 Sep 1994     18045 (Easton,

Northampton, PA)        (none specified)        146-05-2923     New

Jersey  SS-5 Letter

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MICHAEL CRYAN   09 Nov 1895     Jul 1967        08518 (Florence,

Burlington, NJ) (none specified)        146-07-0734     New

Jersey  SS-5 Letter

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MARY CRYAN      17 Mar 1895     15 Mar 1975     07747 (Matawan,

Monmouth, NJ)   (none specified)        148-14-2186     New Jersey

SS-5 Letter

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ANNE CRYAN      14 Oct 1881     Sep 1968        07050 (Orange, Essex,

NJ)     (none specified)        150-18-1972     New Jersey      SS-5

Letter

 

Results 136 thru 150 of 237

Name    Birth   Death   Last Residence  Last Benefit    SSN

Issued  Tools

RAYMOND CRYAN   13 Feb 1930     Apr 1979        (not specified)

(none specified)        150-22-4081     New Jersey      SS-5 Letter

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THOMAS CRYAN    14 Jun 1911     Jan 1971        (not specified)

(none specified)        151-03-4858     New Jersey      SS-5 Letter

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WALTER CRYAN    14 Oct 1931     31 Oct 1992     32958 (Sebastian,

Indian River, FL)       (none specified)        151-24-7400     New

Jersey  SS-5 Letter

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PAUL CRYAN      02 Jan 1934     May 1986        33433 (Boca Raton,

Palm Beach, FL) 33433 (Boca Raton, Palm Beach, FL)

151-26-7171     New Jersey      SS-5 Letter

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ELLEN CRYAN     05 Dec 1899     Sep 1983        XX800 (Europe)  (none

specified)      151-36-2227     New Jersey      SS-5 Letter

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JOHN CRYAN      14 May 1911     16 Feb 1991     20723 (Laurel,

Howard, MD)     (none specified)        153-05-6879     New Jersey

SS-5 Letter

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ROSE CRYAN      26 Sep 1912     Nov 1987        08619 (Trenton,

Mercer, NJ)     (none specified)        153-07-6884     New Jersey

SS-5 Letter

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RUTH CRYAN      06 Jul 1905     May 1996        08858 (Oldwick,

Hunterdon, NJ)  (none specified)        153-20-8220     New Jersey

SS-5 Letter

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WILLIAM CRYAN   28 Jun 1895     Sep 1972        07863 (Oxford,

Warren, NJ)     (none specified)        154-01-2611     New Jersey

SS-5 Letter

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PAULINE CRYAN   05 Nov 1909     Jan 1987        33445 (Delray

Beach, Palm Beach, FL)  33445 (Delray Beach, Palm

Beach, FL)      154-12-3891     New Jersey      SS-5 Letter

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WALTER CRYAN    10 Aug 1901     Jan 1992        (not specified)

(none specified)        154-12-4645     New Jersey      SS-5 Letter

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CATHERINE CRYAN 01 Mar 1914     21 Jul 1999     08638

(Trenton, Mercer, NJ)   (none specified)        154-12-7077     New

Jersey  SS-5 Letter

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NORA CRYAN      04 Aug 1908     10 May 1996     08628 (Trenton,

Mercer, NJ)     (none specified)        154-12-7092     New Jersey

SS-5 Letter

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ANNA CRYAN      08 Jul 1902     Aug 1974        08629 (Trenton,

Mercer, NJ)     (none specified)        155-36-7400     New Jersey

SS-5 Letter

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JOSEPH CRYAN    31 Jul 1892     Feb 1971        07018 (East Orange,

Essex, NJ)      (none specified)        156-09-7819     New Jersey

SS-5 Letter

 

Results 151 thru 165 of 237

Name    Birth   Death   Last Residence  Last Benefit    SSN

Issued  Tools

EVEL CRYAN      22 Aug 1924     05 Feb 1988     08753 (Toms River,

Ocean, NJ)      (none specified)        156-16-3471     New Jersey

SS-5 Letter

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MARY CRYAN      01 Jan 1893     Feb 1986        08601 (Trenton,

Mercer, NJ)     (none specified)        156-16-3872     New Jersey

SS-5 Letter

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FLORENCE CRYAN  02 Aug 1900     Dec 1973        08075 (Riverside,

Burlington, NJ) (none specified)        157-01-4297     New

Jersey  SS-5 Letter

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EDWARD CRYAN    23 Aug 1923     31 Mar 1994     (not specified)

(none specified)        157-16-0761     New Jersey      SS-5 Letter

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CHARLES CRYAN   10 Aug 1908     Apr 1986        33708 (Saint

Petersburg, Pinellas, FL)       (none specified)        158-10-4675

New Jersey      SS-5 Letter

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ALICE CRYAN     26 May 1926     06 Feb 2000     19010 (Bryn Mawr,

Delaware, PA)   (none specified)        159-34-7530

Pennsylvania    SS-5 Letter

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EUGENE CRYAN    14 Oct 1924     Mar 1987        (not specified)

(none specified)        163-30-9810     Pennsylvania    SS-5 Letter

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PAULINE CRYAN   12 Nov 1899     Aug 1976        19111

(Philadelphia, Philadelphia, PA)        (none specified)

176-26-5908     Pennsylvania    SS-5 Letter

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MARY CRYAN      05 Oct 1910     Dec 1974        (not specified) (none

specified)      190-32-5598     Pennsylvania    SS-5 Letter

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EUGENIE CRYAN   15 Dec 1888     Jan 1973        19010 (Bryn Mawr,

Delaware, PA)   (none specified)        191-36-5366

Pennsylvania    SS-5 Letter

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MARJORIE CRYAN  17 Dec 1922     28 Dec 1996     30327 (Atlanta,

Fulton, GA)     (none specified)        208-12-7552     Pennsylvania

SS-5 Letter

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ALICE CRYAN     20 Mar 1913     Aug 1990        (not specified) (none

specified)      219-42-6269     Maryland        SS-5 Letter

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ADA CRYAN       02 Sep 1886     Aug 1977        24541 (Danville,

Danville City, VA)      24012 (Roanoke, Roanoke City, VA)

230-09-9452     Virginia        SS-5 Letter

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ROBERT CRYAN    28 Sep 1904     Feb 1980        07764 (West Long

Branch, Monmouth, NJ)   (none specified)        261-03-4581

Florida SS-5 Letter

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HOWARD CRYAN    08 Aug 1907     Jan 1980        06460 (Milford, New

Haven, CT)      06460 (Milford, New Haven, CT)  264-03-6374

Florida SS-5 Letter

 

Results 166 thru 180 of 237

Name    Birth   Death   Last Residence  Last Benefit    SSN

Issued  Tools

GLADYS CRYAN    28 Nov 1916     10 Dec 1997     33811 (Lakeland,

Polk, FL)       (none specified)        265-44-2024     Florida SS-5

Letter

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MARGARET CRYAN  11 Mar 1911     Mar 1980        43623 (Toledo,

Lucas, OH)      43614 (Toledo, Lucas, OH)       268-32-6457     Ohio

SS-5 Letter

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JAMES CRYAN     03 Oct 1894     Apr 1964        (Ohio)  (none

specified)      269-03-6293     Ohio    SS-5 Letter

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MADALENE CRYAN  02 May 1941     Jan 1970        (not specified)

(none specified)        272-36-6388     Ohio    SS-5 Letter

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WILLIAM CRYAN   15 Nov 1895     Jan 1983        43015 (Delaware,

Delaware, OH)   (none specified)        273-14-3888     Ohio    SS-5

Letter

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MARGARET CRYAN  30 Nov 1925     18 Aug 1997     43082

(Westerville, Delaware, OH)     (none specified)

279-20-7824     Ohio    SS-5 Letter

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ANNA CRYAN      25 Oct 1890     Mar 1982        60453 (Oak Lawn, Cook,

IL)     (none specified)        283-03-0788     Ohio    SS-5 Letter

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MARY CRYAN      24 Jan 1888     Jul 1973        43623 (Toledo, Lucas,

OH)     (none specified)        287-05-4168     Ohio    SS-5 Letter

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JOHN CRYAN      10 Jun 1892     Nov 1970        43081 (Westerville,

Franklin, OH)   (none specified)        288-05-5584     Ohio    SS-5

Letter

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JAMES CRYAN     12 Mar 1913     12 Feb 1995     43623 (Toledo,

Lucas, OH)      (none specified)        292-03-5807     Ohio    SS-5

Letter

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NORMA CRYAN     30 Aug 1895     Jan 1982        43551 (Perrysburg,

Wood, OH)       (none specified)        297-44-3081     Ohio    SS-5

Letter

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ROBERT CRYAN    08 Jun 1917     Nov 1975        (not specified)

(none specified)        299-07-3528     Ohio    SS-5 Letter

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ANNA CRYAN      07 May 1894     Jan 1983        43081 (Westerville,

Franklin, OH)   (none specified)        299-46-8300     Ohio    SS-5

Letter

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LEO CRYAN       18 Jul 1903     Nov 1973        60471 (Richton Park,

Cook, IL)       (none specified)        319-03-3877     Illinois        SS-5

Letter

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IRENE CRYAN     03 Mar 1911     Jun 1985        92686 (California)

(none specified)        322-09-9388     Illinois        SS-5 Letter

 

Results 181 thru 195 of 237

Name    Birth   Death   Last Residence  Last Benefit    SSN

Issued  Tools

MICHAEL CRYAN   10 Feb 1889     Jan 1965        (Illinois)      (none

specified)      322-18-2044     Illinois        SS-5 Letter

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LUCILLE CRYAN   01 Dec 1919     Oct 1975        (not specified)

(none specified)        322-22-6013     Illinois        SS-5 Letter

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EMILY CRYAN     31 May 1906     Feb 1986        60633 (Chicago, Cook,

IL)     (none specified)        335-14-7557     Illinois        SS-5 Letter

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ANTHONY CRYAN   06 Mar 1907     Apr 1982        91770 (Rosemead,

Los Angeles, CA)        (none specified)        338-10-2588     Illinois

SS-5 Letter

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THOMAS CRYAN    09 Aug 1921     29 Sep 1996     60453 (Oak Lawn,

Cook, IL)       (none specified)        341-18-2063     Illinois        SS-5

Letter

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NAOMA CRYAN     07 Oct 1889     Mar 1968        60618 (Chicago, Cook,

IL)     (none specified)        342-22-4014     Illinois        SS-5 Letter

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MARTIN CRYAN    19 Jul 1949     21 Apr 1991     90046 (Los

Angeles, Los Angeles, CA)       (none specified)        344-42-5842

Illinois        SS-5 Letter

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THOMAS CRYAN    13 Jul 1893     Aug 1970        60453 (Oak Lawn,

Cook, IL)       (none specified)        345-07-3816     Illinois        SS-5

Letter

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ROLAND CRYAN    10 May 1900     15 Jun 1987     91770 (Rosemead,

Los Angeles, CA)        (none specified)        351-07-2024     Illinois

SS-5 Letter

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MARY CRYAN      06 Nov 1901     Jan 1986        49074 (Nazareth,

Kalamazoo, MI)  (none specified)        353-20-0150     Illinois

SS-5 Letter

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PATRICK CRYAN   03 Mar 1883     Oct 1963        (Illinois)      (none

specified)      354-10-4894     Illinois        SS-5 Letter

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D CRYAN 16 Aug 1939     Apr 1988        (not specified) (none

specified)      355-32-9616     Illinois        SS-5 Letter

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KATHERINE CRYAN 02 Nov 1903     03 Mar 1989     60419 (Dolton,

Cook, IL)       (none specified)        360-24-4091     Illinois        SS-5

Letter

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MARGARET CRYAN  17 Jun 1923     01 Dec 1987     32746 (Lake

Mary, Seminole, FL)     32746 (Lake Mary, Seminole, FL)

362-22-2359     Michigan        SS-5 Letter

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EMMA CRYAN      20 Jul 1898     20 Jul 1991     (not specified)

(none specified)        362-40-4737     Michigan        SS-5 Letter

 

Results 196 thru 210 of 237

Name    Birth   Death   Last Residence  Last Benefit    SSN

Issued  Tools

LOUISE CRYAN    17 Mar 1918     Sep 1992        49022 (Benton

Harbor, Berrien, MI)    (none specified)        363-01-5337

Michigan        SS-5 Letter

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BEATRICE CRYAN  04 May 1896     Oct 1973        13357 (Ilion,

Herkimer, NY)   (none specified)        365-05-3001     Michigan

SS-5 Letter

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MARY CRYAN      22 Jul 1898     Jan 1984        49507 (Grand Rapids,

Kent, MI)       (none specified)        368-10-9378     Michigan        SS-5

Letter

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LOUISE CRYAN    17 Mar 1918     Sep 1992        49022 (Benton

Harbor, Berrien, MI)    (none specified)        370-05-3581

Michigan        SS-5 Letter

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LOUISE CRYAN    03 Dec 1890     May 1984        49047 (Dowagiac,

Cass, MI)       (none specified)        371-68-1592     Michigan        SS-5

Letter

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JESSIE CRYAN    12 Apr 1892     Jan 1989        49508 (Grand Rapids,

Kent, MI)       (none specified)        380-01-7166     Michigan        SS-5

Letter

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ANNA CRYAN      02 Apr 1909     26 Mar 1992     (not specified)

(none specified)        380-54-7755     Michigan        SS-5 Letter

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ELMA CRYAN      30 Sep 1895     Feb 1967        49505 (Grand Rapids,

Kent, MI)       (none specified)        384-34-0216     Michigan        SS-5

Letter

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PATRICK CRYAN   05 Dec 1915     18 Jan 1996     49022 (Benton

Harbor, Berrien, MI)    (none specified)        385-07-8347

Michigan        SS-5 Letter

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KATHERINE CRYAN 20 Sep 1904     Jul 1981        33707 (Saint

Petersburg, Pinellas, FL)       (none specified)        447-03-1698

Oklahoma        SS-5 Letter

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CORNELIUS CRYAN 22 Feb 1922     Oct 1976        77022 (Houston,

Harris, TX)     (none specified)        449-28-7831     Texas   SS-5

Letter

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AILENE CRYAN    15 May 1925     01 May 1990     75151 (Corsicana,

Navarro, TX)    (none specified)        451-32-8911     Texas   SS-5

Letter

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JIMMY CRYAN     25 Oct 1932     14 Sep 1996     75901 (Lufkin,

Angelina, TX)   (none specified)        452-44-6531     Texas   SS-5

Letter

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CORNELIUS CRYAN 27 Jul 1890     May 1965        (Texas) (none

specified)      457-22-5711     Texas   SS-5 Letter

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MARY CRYAN      04 Feb 1887     Dec 1981        77093 (Houston,

Harris, TX)     (none specified)        457-86-0880     Texas   SS-5

Letter

 

Results 211 thru 225 of 237

Name    Birth   Death   Last Residence  Last Benefit    SSN

Issued  Tools

FRANCES CRYAN   04 Dec 1925     12 Apr 1993     21403

(Annapolis, Anne Arundel, MD)   (none specified)

479-24-0426     Iowa    SS-5 Letter

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JOHN CRYAN      01 Jul 1898     Apr 1973        64105 (Kansas City,

Jackson, MO)    (none specified)        498-30-1641     Missouri

SS-5 Letter

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CHARLES CRYAN   11 Jul 1906     Jul 1968        57201 (Watertown,

Codington, SD)  (none specified)        501-10-6905     North

Dakota  SS-5 Letter

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THOMAS CRYAN    19 Dec 1909     Apr 1968        (not specified)

(none specified)        501-30-2497     North Dakota    SS-5 Letter

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FLORENCE CRYAN  13 Oct 1899     May 1978        57201 (Watertown,

Codington, SD)  57201 (Watertown, Codington, SD)

502-14-2704     North Dakota    SS-5 Letter

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LORNE CRYAN     23 Jul 1898     Sep 1986        58075 (Wahpeton,

Richland, ND)   (none specified)        502-16-1503     North

Dakota  SS-5 Letter

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GERTRUDE CRYAN  29 Dec 1907     22 Apr 1996     58237 (Grafton,

Walsh, ND)      (none specified)        502-38-1978     North Dakota

SS-5 Letter

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JOSEPH CRYAN    18 Oct 1898     Feb 1975        60463 (Palos

Heights, Cook, IL)      (none specified)        505-03-5457

Nebraska        SS-5 Letter

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PATRICK CRYAN   16 Sep 1898     Jun 1972        68757 (Newcastle,

Dixon, NE)      (none specified)        508-16-8066     Nebraska        SS-5

Letter

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THOMAS CRYAN    16 Oct 1905     Oct 1979        80211 (Denver,

Denver, CO)     80218 (Denver, Denver, CO)      521-05-6833

Colorado        SS-5 Letter

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JOHN CRYAN      02 Jul 1903     Jan 1958        (not specified) (none

specified)      521-09-7684     Colorado        SS-5 Letter

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RICHARD CRYAN   03 Feb 1907     Apr 1983        80904 (Colorado

Springs, El Paso, CO)   (none specified)        523-03-5188

Colorado        SS-5 Letter

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EMMA CRYAN      05 May 1906     Jun 1974        80216 (Denver, Denver,

CO)     (none specified)        523-07-0343     Colorado        SS-5 Letter

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OLIVE CRYAN     11 Dec 1905     22 Aug 1997     75216 (Dallas,

Dallas, TX)     (none specified)        523-62-3293     Colorado        SS-5

Letter

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GLENNA CRYAN    08 Mar 1899     Sep 1967        91006 (Arcadia, Los

Angeles, CA)    (none specified)        546-22-0032     California

SS-5 Letter

 

Results 226 thru 237 of 237

Name    Birth   Death   Last Residence  Last Benefit    SSN

Issued  Tools

DOROTHY CRYAN   02 Mar 1894     Feb 1992        90640 (Montebello,

Los Angeles, CA)        (none specified)        546-24-4446

California      SS-5 Letter

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JOHN CRYAN      23 Sep 1895     Oct 1958        (not specified) (none

specified)      550-05-7686     California      SS-5 Letter

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JACK CRYAN      18 Aug 1923     Dec 1982        96114 (Janesville,

Lassen, CA)     96114 (Janesville, Lassen, CA)  552-28-1065

California      SS-5 Letter

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PAUL CRYAN      31 Oct 1904     Jun 1981        91776 (San Gabriel,

Los Angeles, CA)        91770 (Rosemead, Los Angeles, CA)

559-28-6870     California      SS-5 Letter

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ALYS CRYAN      23 Sep 1914     May 1974        (not specified) (none

specified)      559-38-1992     California      SS-5 Letter

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EILEEN CRYAN    26 Sep 1894     Feb 1973        92708 (Fountain

Valley, Orange, CA)     (none specified)        560-21-3850

California      SS-5 Letter

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JOHN CRYAN      18 Apr 1935     30 Dec 1995     92629 (Dana Point,

Orange, CA)     92629 (Dana Point, Orange, CA)  562-44-3055

California      SS-5 Letter

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JESSIE CRYAN    21 May 1910     21 Apr 1999     95037 (Morgan

Hill, Santa Clara, CA)  (none specified)        563-26-0447

California      SS-5 Letter

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BARBARA CRYAN   24 Jan 1929     Jan 1995        92634 (not

specified)      96114 (Janesville, Lassen, CA)  563-34-4071

California      SS-5 Letter

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LESTER CRYAN    12 Mar 1897     Feb 1966        (Florida)       (none

specified)      577-34-7716     District of Columbia    SS-5

Letter

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EDWARD CRYAN    07 Feb 1910     27 Oct 1993     95969 (Paradise,

Butte, CA)      (none specified)        700-01-7216     Long-time or

retired railroad workers        SS-5 Letter

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CHARLES CRYAN   19 Aug 1914     27 Mar 1988     (VA)    (none

specified)      717-05-8093     Long-time or retired railroad

workers SS-5 Letter

 

From:        "Michael Tobin" <tobinmi@hotmail.com>  |  Subject:        Re: [CRYAN] social sec index cryan - ONEIL CRYAN   Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2000 15:06:53 PDT    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Thank you for this information Kevin.

I think I may be able to claim the following entry as one of my family.

>ONEIL CRYAN    02 Jan 1918     13 Dec 1984     92054 (Oceanside,

>San Diego, CA) (none specified)        020-07-0222

My g-granuncle, Matthew Cryan, emigrated to the USA in the early

1900's. I haven't been able to track down his family yet. My information is that

he had 5 children - 3 boys and 2 girls. One of the boys was named ONeil,

after Matthew's mother Mary Anne O'Neil. One of the girls became a Nun and

was known as Sr. Emileanna.

I think the firstname ONeil is quite unusual, so I feel reasonably sure

that this must be my relative.

I am not familar at all with the US records. Can anyone on the list

advise how I should follow up on this. For example, is it possible for me to

lookup the address "92054 Oceanside, San Diego, CA" to see if it still exists

and who occupies. I will probably try writing to the address anyway in the

hope that my letter will be read by a relative.

Or would the Social Security people have more info on the family now

that I have the SSN for one of them ?

Thanks for any help that you can provide on how to follow up on this.

regardsMichael

 

Reply-to:         "FamSpack" < >   From:    "FamSpack"  >  |       To:         "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>

  Subject:         Charles CRYAN - urgent    Date:         Wed, 5 Apr 2000 09:25:58 +0100

Did you ever get the death certificate for this Charles, who you

describe asyour father's cousin?I have not been to London since the last time I looked for you in about

September, when they told me that the relevant indexes would not be

readyuntil the end of the year.

However I am planning to go again on Thursday - tomorrow I will look

him upand get a certificate sent to you ,if no-one else has already done so.

Please let me know.Is your address still St Columba's Rise ? If is is then I have it. If

notthen please would you send it and I will get the certificate sent

directlyto you.Eve

 

Date:        Wed, 5 Apr 2000 02:59:48 -0700 (PDT)   From:    Caoimhghin O Croidheain aoimhghin@yahoo.com>  |  Subject:        [CRYAN] soc sec crehan     To:    CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Social Security Death Index Search Results

Field   Value   Records Results

Last Name       CREHAN  244     244

Results 1 thru 15 of 244

Name    Birth   Death   Last Residence  Last Benefit    SSN

Issued  Tools

PETER CREHAN    22 Apr 1925     Jul 1979        (not specified)

11580 (Valley Stream, Nassau, NY)       001-24-6450     New

Hampshire       SS-5 Letter

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WINNIFRED CREHAN        23 Feb 1921     03 Jun 1989     03276

(Tilton, Belknap, NH)   02134 (Allston, Suffolk, MA)

002-12-2452     New Hampshire   SS-5 Letter

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LAWRENCE CREHAN 30 Jul 1905     Jan 1987        02155 (Medford,

Middlesex, MA)  (none specified)        010-24-9093

Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

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CORINNA CREHAN  12 Oct 1910     12 Apr 1988     02155 (Medford,

Middlesex, MA)  (none specified)        011-09-6858

Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

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ROBERT CREHAN   03 Jul 1935     23 Jun 1995     01701

(Framingham, Middlesex, MA)     (none specified)

011-26-9994     Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

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PAUL CREHAN     09 Mar 1939     30 Jan 1991     (not specified)

(none specified)        011-30-1359     Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

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G CREHAN        12 Dec 1942     15 Jun 1997     (PE)    (none specified)

011-32-2802     Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

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AGNES CREHAN    02 Jan 1899     Sep 1984        02186 (Milton,

Norfolk, MA)    (none specified)        011-50-9908

Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

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MATTHEW CREHAN  06 Mar 1902     Feb 1971        02119 (Boston,

Suffolk, MA)    (none specified)        012-10-5235

Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

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MATTHEW CREHAN  10 Mar 1909     31 May 1997     02671 (West

Harwich, Barnstable, MA)        (none specified)        012-12-7525

Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

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THERESA CREHAN  05 Oct 1898     Mar 1992        02132 (West

Roxbury, Suffolk, MA)   (none specified)        012-14-5974

Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

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JOSEPH CREHAN   01 Aug 1910     30 Oct 1993     02120 (Boston,

Suffolk, MA)    (none specified)        012-28-4573

Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

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ELIZABETH CREHAN        23 Jul 1896     Jan 1977        01757 (Milford,

Worcester, MA)  02043 (Hingham, Plymouth, MA)

013-07-3341     Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

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MICHAEL CREHAN  06 May 1897     Sep 1984        02136 (Hyde Park,

Suffolk, MA)    (none specified)        013-07-3579

Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

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PATRICK CREHAN  01 Apr 1888     Nov 1962        (Massachusetts)

(none specified)        013-26-7378     Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

 

Results 16 thru 30 of 244

Name    Birth   Death   Last Residence  Last Benefit    SSN

Issued  Tools

JOHN CREHAN     21 Dec 1891     Jun 1973        02132 (West Roxbury,

Suffolk, MA)    (none specified)        013-36-6173

Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

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SUSAN CREHAN    18 Jul 1951     Oct 1975        (not specified)

(none specified)        015-36-1889     Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

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CATHERINE CREHAN        27 Nov 1910     Jun 1980        02115 (Boston,

Suffolk, MA)    02170 (Quincy, Norfolk, MA)     016-24-1990

Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

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HELEN CREHAN    17 Aug 1911     Aug 1985        02132 (West Roxbury,

Suffolk, MA)    (none specified)        016-26-6680

Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

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MARIE CREHAN    31 Mar 1907     Apr 1982        01701 (Framingham,

Middlesex, MA)  (none specified)        016-38-3633

Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

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MARGARET CREHAN 26 Oct 1882     Jun 1977        32736 (Eustis,

Lake, FL)       (none specified)        017-40-6718     Massachusetts

SS-5 Letter

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LAWRENCE CREHAN 28 Mar 1921     16 Apr 1996     02170 (Quincy,

Norfolk, MA)    (none specified)        018-16-6190

Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

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JOHN CREHAN     25 Sep 1899     Jun 1978        02150 (Chelsea,

Suffolk, MA)    (none specified)        018-18-0604

Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

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BLANCHE CREHAN  02 Feb 1893     Nov 1988        02132 (West

Roxbury, Suffolk, MA)   (none specified)        019-40-7363

Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

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KATHLEEN CREHAN 01 Feb 1948     16 Jun 1999     (72)    (none

specified)      020-38-9133     Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

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ISABELLA CREHAN 25 Mar 1891     Dec 1976        01760 (Natick,

Middlesex, MA)  (none specified)        020-40-0827

Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

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ANNIA CREHAN    27 Nov 1898     15 Dec 1968     02124 (Boston,

Suffolk, MA)    (none specified)        020-40-5387

Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

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KATHLEEN CREHAN 06 May 1902     04 Oct 1992     02189

(Weymouth, Norfolk, MA) (none specified)        021-01-5164

Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

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MARY CREHAN     07 Aug 1894     Mar 1966        02124 (Boston,

Suffolk, MA)    (none specified)        021-09-8122

Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

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ALFRED CREHAN   24 Oct 1928     27 Feb 1999     45701 (Athens,

Athens, OH)     (none specified)        021-20-1672     Massachusetts

SS-5 Letter

 

Results 31 thru 45 of 244

Name    Birth   Death   Last Residence  Last Benefit    SSN

Issued  Tools

MARY CREHAN     03 Oct 1905     01 Oct 1993     02120 (Boston,

Suffolk, MA)    (none specified)        021-26-6443

Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

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ANNA CREHAN     02 Apr 1903     16 Jul 1997     02189 (Weymouth,

Norfolk, MA)    (none specified)        021-50-8040

Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

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FRANCIS CREHAN  18 Dec 1897     Apr 1968        02132 (West

Roxbury, Suffolk, MA)   (none specified)        022-05-9462

Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

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MARGARET CREHAN 23 Aug 1892     Jan 1968        02131

(Roslindale, Suffolk, MA)       (none specified)        022-07-8772

Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

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KATHERINE CREHAN        01 Mar 1897     Jun 1973        02173

(Lexington, Middlesex, MA)      (none specified)

022-09-0835     Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

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KATHLEEN CREHAN 12 Jun 1902     Feb 1987        02130 (Jamaica

Plain, Suffolk, MA)     (none specified)        022-22-8892

Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

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CAROLA CREHAN   18 Jun 1940     11 Sep 1996     02067 (Sharon,

Norfolk, MA)    (none specified)        022-30-5280

Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

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CORINE CREHAN   11 Jun 1891     Sep 1976        02675 (Yarmouth

Port, Barnstable, MA)   (none specified)        022-36-0326

Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

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LAWRENCE CREHAN 10 Mar 1920     22 Jan 1992     02124 (Boston,

Suffolk, MA)    (none specified)        023-24-2649

Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

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HERBERT CREHAN  10 Oct 1901     Nov 1950        (not specified)

(none specified)        024-03-6814     Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

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JOHN CREHAN     07 Apr 1898     Mar 1968        02130 (Jamaica Plain,

Suffolk, MA)    (none specified)        024-10-4159

Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

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JOHN CREHAN     05 May 1902     Feb 1974        02155 (Medford,

Middlesex, MA)  (none specified)        024-22-3714

Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

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CHARLES CREHAN  12 Jan 1934     Nov 1969        (not specified)

(none specified)        024-26-2633     Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

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MARY CREHAN     01 Aug 1894     Oct 1965        (Massachusetts) (none

specified)      024-28-2823     Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

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ROBERT CREHAN   11 Jul 1938     25 Aug 1995     01527 (Millbury,

Worcester, MA)  01527 (Millbury, Worcester, MA)

024-28-3877     Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

 

Results 46 thru 60 of 244

Name    Birth   Death   Last Residence  Last Benefit    SSN

Issued  Tools

GERALD CREHAN   16 Jun 1937     25 Jan 1996     (not specified)

(none specified)        024-28-4419     Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

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ELIZABETH CREHAN        06 Feb 1892     Dec 1972        02124 (Boston,

Suffolk, MA)    (none specified)        025-03-6742

Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

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ELIZABETH CREHAN        01 Aug 1918     14 Feb 1995     32714

(Altamonte Springs, Seminole, FL)       (none specified)

025-12-3312     Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

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JAMES CREHAN    24 Dec 1904     12 Nov 1989     (not specified)

(none specified)        026-10-2204     Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

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MARY CREHAN     29 Feb 1924     Apr 1985        02189 (Weymouth,

Norfolk, MA)    (none specified)        026-14-5377

Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

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JOHN CREHAN     30 Sep 1924     Feb 1963        (not specified) (none

specified)      026-16-1011     Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

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WILLIAM CREHAN  28 Feb 1894     Aug 1963        (Massachusetts)

(none specified)        026-22-1664     Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

Add Post-em

T CREHAN        12 Aug 1931     May 1989        (not specified) (none

specified)      026-22-1712     Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

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B CREHAN        06 Aug 1940     15 May 1996     (PE)    (none specified)

026-30-7225     Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

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NANCY CREHAN    22 Nov 1948     12 Nov 1996     (72)    (none

specified)      026-38-4524     Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

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ANN CREHAN      02 Jun 1924     Sep 1978        (not specified) 01752

(Marlborough, Middlesex, MA)    027-16-1531     Massachusetts

SS-5 Letter

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MARY CREHAN     04 Mar 1912     02 Jul 1999     02671 (West

Harwich, Barnstable, MA)        (none specified)        027-16-2107

Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

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P CREHAN        03 Dec 1938     Jan 1988        (not specified) (none

specified)      027-28-0497     Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

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JOHN CREHAN     22 Sep 1888     Oct 1969        02108 (Boston,

Suffolk, MA)    (none specified)        027-30-2362

Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

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MARGARET CREHAN 15 Jul 1895     15 Jan 1971     02062

(Norwood, Norfolk, MA)  (none specified)        027-30-8895

Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

 

Results 61 thru 75 of 244

Name    Birth   Death   Last Residence  Last Benefit    SSN

Issued  Tools

MARY CREHAN     01 Dec 1894     Oct 1981        02170 (Quincy,

Norfolk, MA)    (none specified)        027-30-9007

Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

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MATTHEW CREHAN  04 Feb 1910     Oct 1965        (not specified)

(none specified)        028-01-5408     Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

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GRACE CREHAN    14 Oct 1915     Sep 1978        02359 (Pembroke,

Plymouth, MA)   (none specified)        028-07-5441

Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

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JAMES CREHAN    11 Sep 1894     Jun 1964        (Massachusetts)

(none specified)        028-18-8688     Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

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MARK CREHAN     25 Jan 1904     Jun 1986        02072 (Stoughton,

Norfolk, MA)    (none specified)        028-22-3351

Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

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RUPERTA CREHAN  20 Jun 1907     Dec 1979        02025 (Cohasset,

Norfolk, MA)    (none specified)        028-24-6479

Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

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THOMAS CREHAN   20 Apr 1909     Mar 1976        13502 (Utica,

Oneida, NY)     (none specified)        029-07-0498     Massachusetts

SS-5 Letter

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JOSEPH CREHAN   30 Oct 1920     Jul 1972        02189 (Weymouth,

Norfolk, MA)    (none specified)        029-16-8872

Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

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JOSEPH CREHAN   14 Nov 1929     19 Oct 1999     02081 (Walpole,

Norfolk, MA)    (none specified)        030-20-7178

Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

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JAMES CREHAN    06 Oct 1889     Mar 1974        02124 (Boston,

Suffolk, MA)    (none specified)        031-07-2293

Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

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BRIDGET CREHAN  19 Apr 1887     Nov 1975        02125 (Boston,

Suffolk, MA)    (none specified)        031-09-9101

Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

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MARY CREHAN     10 Sep 1898     Apr 1987        02136 (Hyde Park,

Suffolk, MA)    (none specified)        031-12-9164

Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

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THOMAS CREHAN   01 Apr 1927     Mar 1973        (not specified)

(none specified)        031-14-4588     Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

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DELIA CREHAN    08 Feb 1900     Mar 1982        02035 (Foxboro,

Norfolk, MA)    (none specified)        032-14-0102

Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

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CHARLES CREHAN  04 Jun 1899     Sep 1983        02188 (Weymouth,

Norfolk, MA)    (none specified)        032-18-5087

Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

 

Results 76 thru 90 of 244

Name    Birth   Death   Last Residence  Last Benefit    SSN

Issued  Tools

MARY CREHAN     11 Oct 1900     Dec 1984        02136 (Hyde Park,

Suffolk, MA)    (none specified)        033-16-5448

Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

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DAVID CREHAN    28 Sep 1969     31 Dec 1995     01876 (Tewksbury,

Middlesex, MA)  (none specified)        033-64-1269

Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

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PAUL CREHAN     14 Mar 1913     06 Feb 1991     02857 (North

Scituate, Providence, RI)       (none specified)        034-07-9727

Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

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EDWARD CREHAN   12 Aug 1927     Dec 1976        (not specified)

02136 (Hyde Park, Suffolk, MA)  034-16-3123

Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

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AGNES CREHAN    11 Nov 1905     Jan 1982        02021 (Canton,

Norfolk, MA)    02021 (Canton, Norfolk, MA)     034-26-6962

Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

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THOMAS CREHAN   11 Apr 1923     Mar 1979        02134 (Allston,

Suffolk, MA)    02134 (Allston, Suffolk, MA)    036-12-6488

Rhode Island    SS-5 Letter

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MATHEW CREHAN   27 Oct 1924     Jan 1982        (not specified)

02816 (Coventry, Kent, RI)      037-16-8856     Rhode Island

SS-5 Letter

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MATTHEW CREHAN  19 Dec 1896     Jan 1966        02816 (Coventry,

Kent, RI)       (none specified)        037-20-0163     Rhode Island

SS-5 Letter

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THOMAS CREHAN   25 Sep 1946     Jul 1985        (not specified)

(none specified)        039-28-6504     Rhode Island    SS-5 Letter

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MARY CREHAN     17 Mar 1899     28 Nov 1994     06385 (Waterford,

New London, CT) (none specified)        040-28-7163

Connecticut     SS-5 Letter

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JOHN CREHAN     21 Jan 1895     Jun 1972        94103 (San Francisco,

San Francisco, CA)      (none specified)        042-16-4406

Connecticut     SS-5 Letter

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JOHN CREHAN     28 Mar 1891     04 Dec 1989     06811 (Danbury,

Fairfield, CT)  (none specified)        042-24-3584

Connecticut     SS-5 Letter

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MARIAN CREHAN   16 Jan 1897     21 Jun 1998     06810 (Danbury,

Fairfield, CT)  (none specified)        042-32-2460

Connecticut     SS-5 Letter

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GERTRUDE CREHAN 21 Jan 1908     30 Apr 1993     06106

(Hartford, Hartford, CT)        (none specified)        043-36-1712

Connecticut     SS-5 Letter

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ANNA CREHAN     15 Jun 1905     Oct 1976        06877 (Ridgefield,

Fairfield, CT)  06877 (Ridgefield, Fairfield, CT)

045-20-5494     Connecticut     SS-5 Letter

 

Results 91 thru 105 of 244

Name    Birth   Death   Last Residence  Last Benefit    SSN

Issued  Tools

THERESA CREHAN  18 Mar 1912     12 Jan 1997     06082 (Enfield,

Hartford, CT)   (none specified)        047-09-9538     Connecticut

SS-5 Letter

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DORIS CREHAN    13 Sep 1915     12 Aug 1994     03581 (Gorham,

Coos, NH)       (none specified)        047-20-0837     Connecticut

SS-5 Letter

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MARTIN CREHAN   01 Aug 1904     Apr 1976        06810 (Danbury,

Fairfield, CT)  (none specified)        048-03-0963

Connecticut     SS-5 Letter

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RAYMOND CREHAN  19 Apr 1920     Apr 1974        06118 (East

Hartford, Hartford, CT) (none specified)        048-03-5637

Connecticut     SS-5 Letter

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PATRICK CREHAN  12 Aug 1966     01 Apr 1996     (not specified)

(none specified)        048-62-8317     Connecticut     SS-5 Letter

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RICHARD CREHAN  11 Nov 1923     24 Sep 1988     (not specified)

(none specified)        049-05-0968     Connecticut     SS-5 Letter

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CLIFFORD CREHAN 28 Oct 1918     Oct 1986        06040

(Manchester, Hartford, CT)      06040 (Manchester,

Hartford, CT)   049-09-2893     Connecticut     SS-5 Letter

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MATTHEW CREHAN  03 Aug 1925     15 Nov 1989     10470 (Bronx,

Bronx, NY)      (none specified)        050-26-4864     New York        SS-5

Letter

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J CREHAN        27 May 1942     15 Nov 1988     11434 (Jamaica,

Queens, NY)     (none specified)        050-32-8067     New York        SS-5

Letter

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ARTHUR CREHAN   24 Jan 1906     02 Apr 1989     (not specified)

(none specified)        052-03-7952     New York        SS-5 Letter

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CATHERINE CREHAN        01 Nov 1931     Jan 1977        (not specified)

10452 (Bronx, Bronx, NY)        052-24-0911     New York        SS-5

Letter

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GENEVIEVE CREHAN        28 Oct 1885     Oct 1972        14216 (Buffalo,

Erie, NY)       (none specified)        055-38-2379     New York        SS-5

Letter

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MICHAEL CREHAN  04 Feb 1972     12 Oct 1999     07826

(Branchville, Sussex, NJ)       (none specified)        056-70-2760

New York        SS-5 Letter

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ROSE CREHAN     31 Mar 1906     Jul 1989        (not specified) (none

specified)      058-22-6712     New York        SS-5 Letter

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HELEN CREHAN    01 Dec 1918     15 Jan 1997     13021 (Auburn,

Cayuga, NY)     (none specified)        059-16-5814     New York        SS-5

Letter

 

 

Date:        Wed, 5 Apr 2000 03:00:37 -0700 (PDT)   From:        Caoimhghin O Croidheain <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>  | Subject:        [CRYAN] soc sec crehan 2

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Results 106 thru 120 of 244

Name    Birth   Death   Last Residence  Last Benefit    SSN

Issued  Tools

JOHN CREHAN     15 Jul 1900     Apr 1971        20852 (Rockville,

Montgomery, MD) (none specified)        062-03-4322     New York

SS-5 Letter

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CATHERINE CREHAN        28 Apr 1895     24 Dec 1988     08012

(Blackwood, Camden, NJ) (none specified)        062-52-2406

New York        SS-5 Letter

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HELEN CREHAN    26 Oct 1911     24 Dec 1999     14220 (Buffalo,

Erie, NY)       (none specified)        063-28-7665     New York        SS-5

Letter

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PETER CREHAN    04 Jan 1903     May 1981        07107 (Newark,

Essex, NJ)      07104 (Newark, Essex, NJ)       064-16-3262     New

York    SS-5 Letter

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MARTIN CREHAN   29 Dec 1916     30 Jan 1990     (not specified)

(none specified)        065-01-0128     New York        SS-5 Letter

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MICHAEL CREHAN  10 Aug 1878     Jun 1966        08012 (Blackwood,

Camden, NJ)     (none specified)        066-10-1809     New York        SS-5

Letter

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MICHAEL CREHAN  22 Jul 1905     Nov 1974        01104

(Springfield, Hampden, MA)      (none specified)

066-10-1878     New York        SS-5 Letter

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EDWARD CREHAN   11 Aug 1911     Sep 1968        (not specified)

(none specified)        066-12-6140     New York        SS-5 Letter

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THOMAS CREHAN   19 Mar 1903     Dec 1974        11722 (Central

Islip, Suffolk, NY)     (none specified)        067-05-0343     New

York    SS-5 Letter

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THERESA CREHAN  19 Dec 1910     May 1983        11210 (Brooklyn,

Kings, NY)      (none specified)        068-14-9207     New York        SS-5

Letter

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IONA CREHAN     10 Nov 1895     27 Mar 1989     (not specified)

(none specified)        069-03-6587     New York        SS-5 Letter

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JACK CREHAN     15 Sep 1918     23 Jul 1997     13021 (Auburn,

Cayuga, NY)     (none specified)        069-03-8636     New York        SS-5

Letter

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HAROLD CREHAN   15 Jan 1916     19 Jun 1998     13021 (Auburn,

Cayuga, NY)     (none specified)        069-03-9084     New York        SS-5

Letter

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JENNIE CREHAN   24 Jan 1885     Jun 1966        14204 (Buffalo,

Erie, NY)       (none specified)        069-18-1790     New York        SS-5

Letter

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WILLIAM CREHAN  23 Jun 1916     20 Dec 1990     (not specified)

(none specified)        070-07-7920     New York        SS-5 Letter

 

Results 121 thru 135 of 244

Name    Birth   Death   Last Residence  Last Benefit    SSN

Issued  Tools

FRANCIS CREHAN  17 Jul 1910     May 1987        14220 (Buffalo,

Erie, NY)       (none specified)        070-09-2479     New York        SS-5

Letter

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MARGARET CREHAN 31 Aug 1904     14 Oct 1993     06095

(Windsor, Hartford, CT) (none specified)        075-20-8648

New York        SS-5 Letter

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THOMAS CREHAN   14 Nov 1929     03 Jan 1994     (not specified)

(none specified)        075-22-4570     New York        SS-5 Letter

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MARY CREHAN     27 Mar 1911     Dec 1979        14020 (Batavia,

Genesee, NY)    14020 (Batavia, Genesee, NY)    076-05-3414

New York        SS-5 Letter

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FRANK CREHAN    23 Jun 1925     14 Apr 1998     06787 (Thomaston,

Litchfield, CT) (none specified)        076-18-3891     New York

SS-5 Letter

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ROSE CREHAN     17 Jun 1903     16 Mar 1995     12110 (Latham,

Albany, NY)     (none specified)        076-30-2210     New York        SS-5

Letter

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FRANK CREHAN    08 Feb 1909     27 Sep 1990     85251

(Scottsdale, Maricopa, AZ)      (none specified)

081-01-9913     New York        SS-5 Letter

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MARY CREHAN     13 Mar 1888     Sep 1972        10465 (Bronx, Bronx,

NY)     (none specified)        082-42-8096     New York        SS-5 Letter

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MARY CREHAN     02 Jul 1885     Nov 1979        11717 (Brentwood,

Suffolk, NY)    (none specified)        083-42-5703     New York

SS-5 Letter

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THOMAS CREHAN   13 Sep 1912     Feb 1978        11795 (West Islip,

Suffolk, NY)    (none specified)        084-03-6955     New York

SS-5 Letter

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TIMOTHY CREHAN  19 Dec 1879     Dec 1962        (New York)      (none

specified)      084-07-8586     New York        SS-5 Letter

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CATHERINE CREHAN        12 Sep 1912     15 Jun 1998     11223

(Brooklyn, Kings, NY)   (none specified)        084-14-7499     New

York    SS-5 Letter

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VINCENT CREHAN  31 Mar 1896     14 Feb 1991     11361 (Bayside,

Queens, NY)     (none specified)        085-07-3148     New York        SS-5

Letter

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MICHAEL CREHAN  18 Aug 1898     25 Dec 1991     20878

(Gaithersburg, Montgomery, MD)  (none specified)

086-03-5210     New York        SS-5 Letter

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HELENA CREHAN   29 Mar 1886     May 1965        11373 (Elmhurst,

Queens, NY)     (none specified)        087-30-5145     New York        SS-5

Letter

 

 

Results 136 thru 150 of 244

Name    Birth   Death   Last Residence  Last Benefit    SSN

Issued  Tools

LAWRENCE CREHAN 02 Feb 1896     May 1972        10462 (Bronx,

Bronx, NY)      (none specified)        088-07-1628     New York        SS-5

Letter

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BERNARD CREHAN  01 Mar 1881     Nov 1975        11580 (Valley

Stream, Nassau, NY)     (none specified)        088-07-3434     New

York    SS-5 Letter

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HELEN CREHAN    20 Jan 1905     Apr 1983        20852 (Rockville,

Montgomery, MD) (none specified)        089-20-9999     New York

SS-5 Letter

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JAMES CREHAN    19 Jan 1905     May 1982        10301 (Staten

Island, Richmond, NY)   (none specified)        091-10-7190     New

York    SS-5 Letter

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MATTHEW CREHAN  07 Jun 1922     Jun 1975        11428 (Queens

Village, Queens, NY)    (none specified)        095-16-2967     New

York    SS-5 Letter

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THOMAS CREHAN   10 Aug 1914     Oct 1969        (not specified)

(none specified)        098-05-1059     New York        SS-5 Letter

Add Post-em

HELEN CREHAN    05 Feb 1924     Apr 1987        11001 (Floral Park,

Nassau, NY)     (none specified)        099-18-4691     New York        SS-5

Letter

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CATHERINE CREHAN        31 Mar 1906     Aug 1982        10005 (New York,

New York, NY)   (none specified)        102-01-0269     New York

SS-5 Letter

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VINCENT CREHAN  06 Jan 1915     Jan 1974        (not specified)

(none specified)        103-16-2139     New York        SS-5 Letter

Add Post-em

GERTRUDE CREHAN 05 Mar 1905     20 Jan 1989     06770

(Naugatuck, New Haven, CT)      (none specified)

105-18-3066     New York        SS-5 Letter

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CHARLES CREHAN  17 Jul 1898     May 1968        12110 (Latham,

Albany, NY)     (none specified)        107-10-7452     New York        SS-5

Letter

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MARTIN CREHAN   06 Oct 1915     03 Nov 1991     (not specified)

(none specified)        107-16-4077     New York        SS-5 Letter

Add Post-em

EDWARD CREHAN   24 Jan 1902     Jul 1972        33020 (Hollywood,

Broward, FL)    (none specified)        108-01-1633     New York

SS-5 Letter

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MARGARET CREHAN 05 Sep 1899     Nov 1978        11718

(Brightwaters, Suffolk, NY)     (none specified)

109-24-3058     New York        SS-5 Letter

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ELIZABETH CREHAN        06 Jun 1899     01 Sep 1992     10301 (Staten

Island, Richmond, NY)   (none specified)        110-44-5152     New

York    SS-5 Letter

 

 

Results 151 thru 165 of 244

Name    Birth   Death   Last Residence  Last Benefit    SSN

Issued  Tools

JOHN CREHAN     28 Apr 1926     01 Apr 1991     14068 (Getzville,

Erie, NY)       (none specified)        111-14-3280     New York        SS-5

Letter

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ROSEMARY CREHAN 27 Jan 1940     12 Jan 1999     14150

(Tonawanda, Erie, NY)   (none specified)        112-30-3650     New

York    SS-5 Letter

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HENRY CREHAN    21 Mar 1913     Jun 1973        (not specified)

(none specified)        114-10-0702     New York        SS-5 Letter

Add Post-em

CAROL CREHAN    02 Dec 1927     03 May 1997     14127 (Orchard

Park, Erie, NY) (none specified)        114-16-9350     New York

SS-5 Letter

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MARGARET CREHAN 08 Feb 1897     17 Jan 1991     11358

(Flushing, Queens, NY)  (none specified)        114-26-9156

New York        SS-5 Letter

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ANNA CREHAN     01 Mar 1893     Nov 1975        14226 (Buffalo, Erie,

NY)     (none specified)        115-16-7978     New York        SS-5 Letter

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E CREHAN        09 Mar 1934     15 Oct 1990     (PE)    (none specified)

116-32-4732     New York        SS-5 Letter

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MARY CREHAN     21 Jun 1904     06 Dec 1996     20878

(Gaithersburg, Montgomery, MD)  (none specified)

117-30-1991     New York        SS-5 Letter

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THOMAS CREHAN   05 Apr 1902     Jun 1972        14214 (Buffalo,

Erie, NY)       (none specified)        118-05-8665     New York        SS-5

Letter

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HAZEL CREHAN    12 Oct 1902     Mar 1969        (New York)      (none

specified)      118-10-4820     New York        SS-5 Letter

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MARY CREHAN     25 Nov 1880     Nov 1971        14220 (Buffalo, Erie,

NY)     (none specified)        118-36-1964     New York        SS-5 Letter

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JEANNE CREHAN   05 Oct 1919     Oct 1971        14217 (Buffalo,

Erie, NY)       (none specified)        121-09-3288     New York        SS-5

Letter

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LEWIS CREHAN    16 Mar 1915     Aug 1968        14226 (Buffalo,

Erie, NY)       (none specified)        122-05-2053     New York        SS-5

Letter

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HENRY CREHAN    17 Dec 1889     Apr 1982        10034 (New York, New

York, NY)       (none specified)        123-01-7950     New York        SS-5

Letter

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MILDRED CREHAN  09 Jan 1896     07 Apr 1993     29445 (Goose

Creek, Berkeley, SC)    (none specified)        130-18-5669     New

York    SS-5 Letter

 

 

Results 166 thru 180 of 244

Name    Birth   Death   Last Residence  Last Benefit    SSN

Issued  Tools

MARGARET CREHAN 01 Nov 1885     Nov 1970        11580 (Valley

Stream, Nassau, NY)     (none specified)        131-07-6672     New

York    SS-5 Letter

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MARY CREHAN     29 Jun 1900     Sep 1969        07940 (Madison,

Morris, NJ)     (none specified)        135-26-1780     New Jersey

SS-5 Letter

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JOHN CREHAN     09 Aug 1910     Oct 1970        19464 (Pottstown,

Montgomery, PA) (none specified)        139-03-0358     New

Jersey  SS-5 Letter

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JANE CREHAN     20 Dec 1903     Jul 1993        33408 (North Palm

Beach, Palm Beach, FL)  (none specified)        142-14-3288

New Jersey      SS-5 Letter

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ABIGAIL CREHAN  01 Jun 1898     15 Apr 1966     07079 (South

Orange, Essex, NJ)      (none specified)        144-28-2933     New

Jersey  SS-5 Letter

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FRANCIS CREHAN  25 Feb 1903     Jun 1984        33404 (West Palm

Beach, Palm Beach, FL)  (none specified)        145-10-8195

New Jersey      SS-5 Letter

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MARTIN CREHAN   07 Feb 1914     Mar 1983        08035 (Haddon

Heights, Camden, NJ)    (none specified)        148-22-0723     New

Jersey  SS-5 Letter

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BERNADINE CREHAN        27 Jan 1930     06 Nov 1994     10918

(Chester, Orange, NY)   (none specified)        148-28-1391     New

Jersey  SS-5 Letter

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MATTHEW CREHAN  09 Jul 1887     Nov 1964        (New Jersey)    (none

specified)      151-10-0406     New Jersey      SS-5 Letter

Add Post-em

BRIDIE CREHAN   25 Apr 1904     Jan 1980        07107 (Newark,

Essex, NJ)      07107 (Newark, Essex, NJ)       152-14-9007     New

Jersey  SS-5 Letter

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THOMAS CREHAN   10 Dec 1882     Oct 1962        (New Jersey)    (none

specified)      154-03-8603     New Jersey      SS-5 Letter

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HELEN CREHAN    04 Apr 1912     21 Jun 1998     08043 (Voorhees,

Camden, NJ)     (none specified)        154-05-4937     New Jersey

SS-5 Letter

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JAMES CREHAN    06 Jan 1907     Mar 1986        08101 (Camden,

Camden, NJ)     (none specified)        157-03-4944     New Jersey

SS-5 Letter

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SARA CREHAN     20 Feb 1899     Jul 1985        15206 (Pittsburgh,

Allegheny, PA)  (none specified)        159-22-5123

Pennsylvania    SS-5 Letter

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MARGARET CREHAN 14 Mar 1907     21 Sep 1998     29928 (Hilton

Head Island, Beaufort, SC)      (none specified)

165-34-5126     Pennsylvania    SS-5 Letter

 

 

Results 181 thru 195 of 244

Name    Birth   Death   Last Residence  Last Benefit    SSN

Issued  Tools

MATHILDA CREHAN 23 Aug 1900     20 Jun 1989     (not

specified)      (none specified)        167-07-3180     Pennsylvania

SS-5 Letter

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HUBERT CREHAN   01 Mar 1905     Oct 1980        15204 (Pittsburgh,

Allegheny, PA)  15204 (Pittsburgh, Allegheny, PA)

168-05-8250     Pennsylvania    SS-5 Letter

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HAROLD CREHAN   31 Jan 1905     01 Apr 1989     02191 (Weymouth,

Norfolk, MA)    (none specified)        181-01-7821     Pennsylvania

SS-5 Letter

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KATE CREHAN     17 Jan 1870     May 1967        15207 (Pittsburgh,

Allegheny, PA)  (none specified)        182-28-4484

Pennsylvania    SS-5 Letter

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FRANCES CREHAN  06 May 1905     15 Oct 1993     19038

(Glenside, Montgomery, PA)      (none specified)

183-03-7705     Pennsylvania    SS-5 Letter

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WILLIAM CREHAN  10 Apr 1897     May 1962        (Pennsylvania)

(none specified)        183-24-9287     Pennsylvania    SS-5 Letter

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THOMAS CREHAN   01 Jun 1907     Jan 1985        18702 (Wilkes

Barre, Luzerne, PA)     11570 (Rockville Centre, Nassau,

NY)     189-05-3013     Pennsylvania    SS-5 Letter

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MARY CREHAN     31 Aug 1908     Jun 1986        85012 (Phoenix,

Maricopa, AZ)   (none specified)        194-30-6404

Pennsylvania    SS-5 Letter

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MAGDALEN CREHAN 13 Feb 1911     Apr 1978        18702 (Wilkes

Barre, Luzerne, PA)     18701 (Wilkes Barre, Luzerne, PA)

198-28-2692     Pennsylvania    SS-5 Letter

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FLORENCE CREHAN 07 Sep 1908     Nov 1978        19145

(Philadelphia, Philadelphia, PA)        19145 (Philadelphia,

Philadelphia, PA)       202-05-5351     Pennsylvania    SS-5 Letter

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BERTHA CREHAN   09 Aug 1901     Jun 1982        16063 (Zelienople,

Butler, PA)     (none specified)        205-01-3827     Pennsylvania

SS-5 Letter

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JAMES CREHAN    16 Apr 1908     Mar 1967        (not specified)

(none specified)        208-10-8734     Pennsylvania    SS-5 Letter

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FRANCIS CREHAN  15 Jan 1899     31 Dec 1959     (VA)    (none

specified)      210-01-7214     Pennsylvania    SS-5 Letter

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HUBERT CREHAN   28 Sep 1894     Jun 1986        16314 (Cochranton,

Crawford, PA)   (none specified)        210-03-7775

Pennsylvania    SS-5 Letter

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JOHN CREHAN     25 Apr 1925     05 Jul 1996     22180 (Vienna,

Fairfax, VA)    (none specified)        210-14-0863     Pennsylvania

SS-5 Letter

 

 

Results 196 thru 210 of 244

Name    Birth   Death   Last Residence  Last Benefit    SSN

Issued  Tools

JOSEPH CREHAN   05 Jan 1903     Jul 1965        21061 (Glen Burnie,

Anne Arundel, MD)       (none specified)        212-03-3818

Maryland        SS-5 Letter

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JOSEPH CREHAN   19 Mar 1915     Aug 1979        (not specified)

(none specified)        212-30-7152     Maryland        SS-5 Letter

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MILTON CREHAN   27 Aug 1937     10 Sep 1994     16117 (Ellwood

City, Lawrence, PA)     (none specified)        212-34-9919

Maryland        SS-5 Letter

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WANDA CREHAN    30 Apr 1922     Jul 1983        21214 (Baltimore,

Baltimore City, MD)     (none specified)        214-12-9706

Maryland        SS-5 Letter

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GILBERT CREHAN  13 Jun 1930     20 Jun 1996     21207 (Gwynn

Oak, Baltimore, MD)     (none specified)        215-22-1898

Maryland        SS-5 Letter

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JENNIE CREHAN   19 Jun 1896     May 1990        21207 (Gwynn Oak,

Baltimore, MD)  (none specified)        215-54-1704     Maryland

SS-5 Letter

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JENNIE CREHAN   11 Sep 1903     26 Aug 1996     21108

(Millersville, Anne Arundel, MD)        (none specified)

217-16-0418     Maryland        SS-5 Letter

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GEORGE CREHAN   04 Apr 1921     Apr 1964        (not specified)

(none specified)        218-05-2671     Maryland        SS-5 Letter

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J CREHAN        30 Apr 1929     15 Feb 1988     (PE)    (none specified)

219-22-1807     Maryland        SS-5 Letter

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AGNES CREHAN    24 Feb 1903     Sep 1975        21122 (Pasadena,

Anne Arundel, MD)       (none specified)        220-44-8867

Maryland        SS-5 Letter

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MARIA CREHAN    18 Apr 1915     Jul 1971        33020 (Hollywood,

Broward, FL)    (none specified)        256-10-7158     Georgia SS-5

Letter

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DOROTHY CREHAN  16 May 1924     05 Jul 1999     23669 (Hampton,

Hampton City, VA)       (none specified)        260-28-6269     Georgia

SS-5 Letter

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ROBERT CREHAN   17 Dec 1957     Dec 1976        33614 (Tampa,

Hillsborough, FL)       (none specified)        261-31-2719     Florida

SS-5 Letter

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HELEN CREHAN    20 Jun 1898     Apr 1967        44035 (Elyria,

Lorain, OH)     (none specified)        284-10-4052     Ohio    SS-5

Letter

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FERN CREHAN     18 May 1892     Feb 1980        49058 (Hastings,

Barry, MI)      49058 (Hastings, Barry, MI)     297-18-4510

Ohio    SS-5 Letter

 

Results 211 thru 225 of 244

Name    Birth   Death   Last Residence  Last Benefit    SSN

Issued  Tools

JOHN CREHAN     10 Jan 1884     May 1974        46204 (Indianapolis,

Marion, IN)     (none specified)        317-18-5600     Indiana SS-5

Letter

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JOHN CREHAN     27 Apr 1913     Aug 1981        XX900 (Europe)  XX900

318-34-6360     Illinois        SS-5 Letter

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THOMAS CREHAN   05 Aug 1887     Nov 1965        (Illinois)      (none

specified)      335-10-5677     Illinois        SS-5 Letter

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JOHN CREHAN     12 Apr 1890     Jul 1964        (California)    (none

specified)      347-10-1304     Illinois        SS-5 Letter

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FRANK CREHAN    26 Mar 1878     Nov 1963        (Illinois)      (none

specified)      356-01-5698     Illinois        SS-5 Letter

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OWEN CREHAN     22 Dec 1894     May 1978        48219 (Detroit,

Wayne, MI)      (none specified)        367-07-7929     Michigan        SS-5

Letter

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HELEN CREHAN    19 Oct 1921     22 Jul 1997     49441 (Muskegon,

Muskegon, MI)   (none specified)        381-14-9864     Michigan

SS-5 Letter

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MARGUERIT CREHAN        03 Mar 1908     Feb 1987        48009

(Birmingham, Oakland, MI)       (none specified)        383-09-5157

Michigan        SS-5 Letter

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IRENE CREHAN    19 Feb 1926     Jan 1979        (not specified)

33549 (Lutz, Hillsborough, FL)  398-16-2779     Wisconsin

SS-5 Letter

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JOAN CREHAN     01 Jan 1897     Feb 1969        73107 (Oklahoma City,

Oklahoma, OK)   (none specified)        442-24-5484     Oklahoma

SS-5 Letter

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JOHN CREHAN     25 Nov 1895     02 Nov 1991     (not specified)

(none specified)        447-32-0645     Oklahoma        SS-5 Letter

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RICHARD CREHAN  07 Sep 1896     Aug 1966        67202 (Wichita,

Sedgwick, KS)   (none specified)        512-01-4897     Kansas  SS-5

Letter

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MARY CREHAN     21 Oct 1915     18 Jul 1995     85012 (Phoenix,

Maricopa, AZ)   (none specified)        527-56-8829     Arizona

SS-5 Letter

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GEORGINE CREHAN 12 Aug 1890     Jul 1991        98119 (Seattle,

King, WA)       (none specified)        539-20-1820     Washington      SS-5

Letter

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JOHN CREHAN     20 May 1897     May 1968        11718 (Brightwaters,

Suffolk, NY)    (none specified)        546-36-1206     California

SS-5 Letter

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Results 226 thru 240 of 244

Name    Birth   Death   Last Residence  Last Benefit    SSN

Issued  Tools

GRACE CREHAN    13 Jan 1891     Aug 1977        90049 (Los Angeles,

Los Angeles, CA)        (none specified)        552-38-6347

California      SS-5 Letter

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MICHAEL CREHAN  26 Sep 1900     Nov 1969        96001 (Redding,

Shasta, CA)     (none specified)        557-05-3783     California

SS-5 Letter

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ELYSE CREHAN    18 Jul 1917     21 Feb 1988     91740 (Glendora,

Los Angeles, CA)        (none specified)        559-26-2575

California      SS-5 Letter

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TITUS CREHAN    05 May 1961     15 Mar 1997     94710 (Berkeley,

Alameda, CA)    (none specified)        563-17-8334     California

SS-5 Letter

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JAMES CREHAN    14 Jun 1886     Jan 1963        (California)    (none

specified)      565-24-4917     California      SS-5 Letter

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JOSEPH CREHAN   12 Jul 1884     Apr 1966        91604 (Studio City,

Los Angeles, CA)        (none specified)        568-01-6512

California      SS-5 Letter

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DANIEL CREHAN   24 Dec 1921     Jan 1968        (not specified)

(none specified)        568-05-8319     California      SS-5 Letter

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HUBERT CREHAN   25 Apr 1918     Nov 1984        94702 (Berkeley,

Alameda, CA)    (none specified)        570-03-5005     California

SS-5 Letter

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ANNA CREHAN     09 Jan 1892     Oct 1985        91001 (Altadena, Los

Angeles, CA)    (none specified)        572-26-3847     California

SS-5 Letter

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DOROTHY CREHAN  15 May 1898     Dec 1979        91344 (Granada

Hills, Los Angeles, CA) 91340 (San Fernando, Los

Angeles, CA)    573-40-3302     California      SS-5 Letter

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PAULINE CREHAN  13 Sep 1910     Feb 1978        20037 (Washington,

District Of Columbia, DC)       20735 (Clinton, Prince

Georges, MD)    577-10-6833     District of Columbia    SS-5

Letter

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CHARLES CREHAN  02 May 1912     Feb 1978        20037 (Washington,

District Of Columbia, DC)       20735 (Clinton, Prince

Georges, MD)    577-14-8956     District of Columbia    SS-5

Letter

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THOMAS CREHAN   24 Aug 1908     Nov 1971        20018 (Washington,

District Of Columbia, DC)       (none specified)        577-14-8957

District of Columbia    SS-5 Letter

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LOTTIE CREHAN   29 Jan 1874     Sep 1972        20032 (Washington,

District Of Columbia, DC)       (none specified)        577-68-6306

District of Columbia    SS-5 Letter

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VERNIECE CREHAN 26 May 1912     07 Apr 1997     21035

(Davidsonville, Anne Arundel, MD)       (none specified)

578-05-6508     District of Columbia    SS-5 Letter

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Results 241 thru 244 of 244

Name    Birth   Death   Last Residence  Last Benefit    SSN

Issued  Tools

JAMES CREHAN    15 Nov 1930     Apr 1986        (not specified)

92701 (Santa Ana, Orange, CA)   707-01-9804     Long-time or

retired railroad workers        SS-5 Letter

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EDWARD CREHAN   09 Dec 1907     Nov 1978        85713 (Tucson,

Pima, AZ)       (none specified)        713-14-5949     Long-time or

retired railroad workers        SS-5 Letter

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MARTIN CREHAN   26 Nov 1899     May 1980        02035 (Foxboro,

Norfolk, MA)    (none specified)        722-09-3919     Long-time or

retired railroad workers        SS-5 Letter

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A CREHAN        22 Dec 1932     15 May 1989     (PE)    (none specified)

728-12-6088     Long-time or retired railroad workers   SS-5

Letter

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Date:        Wed, 5 Apr 2000 04:37:37 -0700 (PDT)   From:        Caoimhghin O Croidheain <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>  | Block address Subject:        [CRYAN] soc sec crean 1-75

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Social Security Death Index Search Results

 

Field   Value   Records Results

Last Name       CREAN   425     425

 

Results 1 thru 15 of 425

Name    Birth   Death   Last Residence  Last Benefit    SSN

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ROBERT CREAN    16 Aug 1914     Dec 1974        (not specified)

(none specified)        004-10-3618     Maine   SS-5 Letter

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FRANCES CREAN   19 Jun 1915     Apr 1984        11743 (Huntington,

Suffolk, NY)    (none specified)        004-18-1363     Maine   SS-5

Letter

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WILLIAM CREAN   10 Apr 1919     09 Jun 1997     19149

(Philadelphia, Philadelphia, PA)        (none specified)

006-07-4298     Maine   SS-5 Letter

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HELEN CREAN     05 Jul 1924     22 Nov 1999     08081

(Sicklerville, Camden, NJ)      (none specified)

006-18-3709     Maine   SS-5 Letter

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CHARLES CREAN   31 Aug 1889     Aug 1967        01970 (Salem,

Essex, MA)      (none specified)        010-28-3778     Massachusetts

SS-5 Letter

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MARY CREAN      08 Sep 1899     Mar 1970        02021 (Canton,

Norfolk, MA)    (none specified)        010-28-9810

Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

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HELEN CREAN     21 Jul 1904     Dec 1984        01960 (Peabody,

Essex, MA)      (none specified)        011-09-1396     Massachusetts

SS-5 Letter

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NORA CREAN      03 Apr 1905     May 1992        01085 (Westfield,

Hampden, MA)    (none specified)        011-26-0741

Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

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KATHERINE CREAN 03 Dec 1887     Mar 1983        01040 (Holyoke,

Hampden, MA)    (none specified)        011-36-2286

Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

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GENEVIEVE CREAN 19 Jan 1918     Jan 1985        02072 (Stoughton,

Norfolk, MA)    (none specified)        013-05-7741

Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

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MICHAEL CREAN   09 May 1907     01 Aug 1991     (not specified)

(none specified)        013-05-7750     Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

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EDMUND CREAN    11 Aug 1948     20 May 1991     (not specified)

(none specified)        013-40-1117     Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

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BRIDIE CREAN    15 Nov 1885     Nov 1973        02127 (Boston,

Suffolk, MA)    (none specified)        013-50-6050

Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

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JAMES CREAN     30 Aug 1905     Jul 1956        (not specified) (none

specified)      014-03-0439     Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

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ALMA CREAN      23 Mar 1911     15 Sep 1995     01040 (Holyoke,

Hampden, MA)    (none specified)        014-05-3896

Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

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Results 16 thru 30 of 425

Name    Birth   Death   Last Residence  Last Benefit    SSN

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HELEN CREAN     20 Jan 1890     Aug 1968        01040 (Holyoke,

Hampden, MA)    (none specified)        014-05-6897

Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

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WILLIAM CREAN   01 Mar 1903     Nov 1975        01960 (Peabody,

Essex, MA)      (none specified)        014-12-3695     Massachusetts

SS-5 Letter

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ANNA CREAN      26 Jul 1906     12 Nov 1998     06776 (New Milford,

Litchfield, CT) (none specified)        016-05-8499

Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

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CATHERINE CREAN 21 Jan 1905     Aug 1970        02169 (Quincy,

Norfolk, MA)    (none specified)        016-07-6867

Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

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MARGARET CREAN  30 Apr 1908     Aug 1984        33583 (Seffner,

Hillsborough, FL)       33583 (Seffner, Hillsborough, FL)

016-09-0936     Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

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ARTHUR CREAN    01 Oct 1906     06 Mar 1996     01970 (Salem,

Essex, MA)      (none specified)        016-09-1220     Massachusetts

SS-5 Letter

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RAYMOND CREAN   09 Feb 1909     Aug 1986        78050 (Leming,

Atascosa, TX)   (none specified)        016-09-2841

Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

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GERALD CREAN    05 Aug 1913     Jul 1981        01915 (Beverly,

Essex, MA)      01915 (Beverly, Essex, MA)      016-09-2977

Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

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ELLEN CREAN     28 Jul 1916     Oct 1981        01970 (Salem, Essex,

MA)     (none specified)        016-09-3982     Massachusetts   SS-5

Letter

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HELEN CREAN     09 Feb 1912     Jan 1973        01915 (Beverly,

Essex, MA)      (none specified)        016-09-6983     Massachusetts

SS-5 Letter

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JOSEPHINE CREAN 28 Feb 1900     Sep 1982        01602 (Worcester,

Worcester, MA)  01602 (Worcester, Worcester, MA)

016-14-0172     Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

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CHARLES CREAN   19 Oct 1927     04 Jan 1991     (not specified)

(none specified)        017-20-0034     Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

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HUGH CREAN      06 Jan 1902     May 1971        01085 (Westfield,

Hampden, MA)    (none specified)        017-20-5051

Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

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ETHELWYN CREAN  09 Jul 1903     May 1978        01960 (Peabody,

Essex, MA)      (none specified)        017-36-0948     Massachusetts

SS-5 Letter

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M CREAN 20 Apr 1905     11 Sep 1990     01970 (Salem, Essex,

MA)     (none specified)        018-09-9312     Massachusetts   SS-5

Letter

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Results 31 thru 45 of 425

Name    Birth   Death   Last Residence  Last Benefit    SSN

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ANNE CREAN      03 Mar 1885     Dec 1968        02139 (Cambridge,

Middlesex, MA)  (none specified)        018-20-2761

Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

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EDMUND CREAN    08 Jul 1921     Apr 1986        01075 (South Hadley,

Hampshire, MA)  (none specified)        019-03-7270

Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

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JANE CREAN      26 Aug 1923     31 Aug 1988     01060 (Northampton,

Hampshire, MA)  (none specified)        019-16-0593

Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

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BRIDGET CREAN   16 Aug 1883     Oct 1971        01040 (Holyoke,

Hampden, MA)    (none specified)        019-16-1015

Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

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THOMAS CREAN    22 Dec 1924     24 Oct 1992     14618 (Rochester,

Monroe, NY)     (none specified)        019-16-1502     Massachusetts

SS-5 Letter

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BRIDGET CREAN   01 Mar 1894     Oct 1967        01060 (Northampton,

Hampshire, MA)  (none specified)        019-26-2361

Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

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PETER CREAN     10 Jul 1936     Dec 1972        (not specified) (none

specified)      019-28-8849     Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

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W CREAN 11 Jul 1940     Aug 1993        (not specified) (none

specified)      019-30-1690     Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

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WALTER CREAN    01 Sep 1908     03 May 1995     01915 (Beverly,

Essex, MA)      (none specified)        020-05-2119     Massachusetts

SS-5 Letter

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FRANCIS CREAN   03 Jan 1901     Mar 1966        01960 (Peabody,

Essex, MA)      (none specified)        020-05-2359     Massachusetts

SS-5 Letter

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DENNIS CREAN    23 Dec 1904     Mar 1983        01915 (Beverly,

Essex, MA)      (none specified)        020-05-3718     Massachusetts

SS-5 Letter

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JAMES CREAN     03 Jan 1901     Jul 1979        01960 (Peabody,

Essex, MA)      (none specified)        020-05-4544     Massachusetts

SS-5 Letter

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EDWARD CREAN    16 May 1907     Nov 1984        01960 (Peabody,

Essex, MA)      (none specified)        020-05-6511     Massachusetts

SS-5 Letter

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PATRICK CREAN   21 Jan 1882     Oct 1962        (Massachusetts)

(none specified)        020-09-2253     Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

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JAMES CREAN     02 Dec 1900     Nov 1974        01085 (Westfield,

Hampden, MA)    (none specified)        020-09-2590

Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

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Results 46 thru 60 of 425

Name    Birth   Death   Last Residence  Last Benefit    SSN

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TIMOTHY CREAN   11 Dec 1905     Apr 1972        01085 (Westfield,

Hampden, MA)    (none specified)        020-09-4114

Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

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IRENE CREAN     27 Jan 1905     Jun 1974        01085 (Westfield,

Hampden, MA)    (none specified)        020-09-4335

Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

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P MARGUERI CREAN        02 May 1920     Sep 1988        03045

(Goffstown, Hillsborough, NH)   (none specified)

020-20-3660     Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

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MARGARET CREAN  15 Dec 1901     Apr 1986        02116 (Boston,

Suffolk, MA)    (none specified)        020-26-8638

Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

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FRANCIS CREAN   22 Oct 1939     13 Jul 1990     (not specified)

(none specified)        020-30-4612     Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

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RICHARD CREAN   18 Jan 1903     Mar 1983        02146 (Brookline,

Norfolk, MA)    (none specified)        021-07-0647

Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

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LOUISE CREAN    19 Jul 1893     Mar 1975        02148 (Malden,

Middlesex, MA)  (none specified)        021-12-0291

Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

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EDNA CREAN      18 Aug 1909     21 May 1998     02146 (Brookline,

Norfolk, MA)    (none specified)        022-07-7863

Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

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TIMOTHY CREAN   12 Aug 1893     May 1977        02021 (Canton,

Norfolk, MA)    02021 (Canton, Norfolk, MA)     022-09-2126

Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

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FLORENCE CREAN  05 Aug 1908     Apr 1979        01001 (Agawam,

Hampden, MA)    01089 (West Springfield, Hampden, MA)

022-24-2284     Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

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CORNELIUS CREAN 01 Sep 1930     May 1984        01602 (Worcester,

Worcester, MA)  (none specified)        022-50-2815

Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

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JAMES CREAN     09 Mar 1933     25 Apr 1998     06484 (Shelton,

Fairfield, CT)  (none specified)        023-24-6646

Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

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ANNA CREAN      16 Jul 1896     23 Jan 1988     02021 (Canton,

Norfolk, MA)    (none specified)        024-05-4902

Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

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JEROME CREAN    04 May 1892     Jun 1976        90277 (Redondo

Beach, Los Angeles, CA) (none specified)        024-09-0075

Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

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BRIDIE CREAN    20 Jan 1901     26 Nov 1999     02152 (Winthrop,

Suffolk, MA)    (none specified)        024-12-1715

Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

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Results 61 thru 75 of 425

Name    Birth   Death   Last Residence  Last Benefit    SSN

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DOROTHY CREAN   25 Jul 1920     May 1972        (not specified)

(none specified)        024-16-5684     Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

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DONALD CREAN    16 Jun 1927     Jun 1986        (not specified)

01151 (Indian Orchard, Hampden, MA)     024-20-5400

Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

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CORNELIUS CREAN 13 Jan 1897     Feb 1967        01040 (Holyoke,

Hampden, MA)    (none specified)        024-32-1079

Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

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JOHN CREAN      18 Apr 1889     Aug 1967        02148 (Malden,

Middlesex, MA)  (none specified)        025-03-0110

Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

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DENNIS CREAN    28 Oct 1893     Aug 1960        (not specified)

(none specified)        025-09-1408     Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

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JOSEPH CREAN    02 Dec 1913     Nov 1984        02072 (Stoughton,

Norfolk, MA)    (none specified)        025-09-1409

Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

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HELGA CREAN     01 Aug 1939     Mar 1979        (not specified) 02368

(Randolph, Norfolk, MA) 025-34-0904     Massachusetts   SS-5

Letter

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BARBARA CREAN   15 Jan 1924     Sep 1982        01905 (Lynn, Essex,

MA)     (none specified)        026-18-8457     Massachusetts   SS-5

Letter

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CHARLES CREAN   01 Oct 1908     12 Jun 1990     (not specified)

(none specified)        027-07-2249     Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

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CORNELIUS CREAN 02 Nov 1903     Aug 1978        01602 (Worcester,

Worcester, MA)  (none specified)        027-10-0370

Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

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ROBERT CREAN    27 Aug 1928     Jul 1971        (not specified)

(none specified)        027-20-1709     Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

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MARGARET CREAN  19 Nov 1905     22 Jun 1996     01960 (Peabody,

Essex, MA)      (none specified)        028-09-2811     Massachusetts

SS-5 Letter

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MARK CREAN      22 Mar 1908     Jan 1982        01342 (Deerfield,

Franklin, MA)   01342 (Deerfield, Franklin, MA)

028-10-8540     Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

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MARGARET CREAN  13 Feb 1910     Jan 1988        02021 (Canton,

Norfolk, MA)    (none specified)        028-34-0062

Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

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ALBERT CREAN    23 Mar 1917     05 Sep 1989     02072 (Stoughton,

Norfolk, MA)    (none specified)        029-01-1209

Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

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Date:        Wed, 5 Apr 2000 04:39:26 -0700 (PDT)   From:        Caoimhghin O Croidheain <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>  | Subject:        [CRYAN] soc sec crean 76-165     To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

 

Results 76 thru 90 of 425

Name    Birth   Death   Last Residence  Last Benefit    SSN

Issued  Tools

ELEANOR CREAN   16 Aug 1924     Jan 1982        (not specified)

01075 (South Hadley, Hampshire, MA)     029-16-4336

Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

Add Post-em

ROBERT CREAN    27 Sep 1923     May 1974        (not specified)

(none specified)        029-18-3325     Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

Add Post-em

DOLORES CREAN   09 Apr 1929     04 Jun 1997     01033 (Granby,

Hampshire, MA)  (none specified)        029-20-0594

Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

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MARGARET CREAN  21 Jul 1893     Mar 1985        01089 (West

Springfield, Hampden, MA)       (none specified)        029-20-5110

Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

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JAMES CREAN     15 Oct 1902     Jul 1972        02152 (Winthrop,

Suffolk, MA)    (none specified)        030-09-4414

Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

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MARY CREAN      24 Mar 1899     Aug 1989        02159 (Newton,

Middlesex, MA)  (none specified)        030-10-3848

Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

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JOHN CREAN      05 Apr 1935     Dec 1968        (not specified) (none

specified)      030-26-0606     Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

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KATHERINE CREAN 02 Apr 1900     11 Dec 1995     01602

(Worcester, Worcester, MA)      (none specified)

031-18-4525     Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

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MARGARET CREAN  29 Mar 1913     Feb 1990        (not specified)

(none specified)        032-03-3091     Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

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FRANCIS CREAN   10 Jun 1903     Sep 1986        01039 (Haydenville,

Hampshire, MA)  (none specified)        032-07-4808

Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

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ELIZABETH CREAN 28 May 1909     Aug 1982        01085 (Westfield,

Hampden, MA)    (none specified)        032-09-9659

Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

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EVA CREAN       28 Feb 1918     May 1979        01089 (West

Springfield, Hampden, MA)       01089 (West Springfield,

Hampden, MA)    032-12-4585     Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

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JOHN CREAN      30 Sep 1926     01 Aug 1992     01089 (West

Springfield, Hampden, MA)       (none specified)        032-16-5590

Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

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MARY CREAN      08 Nov 1916     26 Dec 1994     06897 (Wilton,

Fairfield, CT)  (none specified)        032-44-7873

Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

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ELEANOR CREAN   22 Jan 1883     Mar 1973        01880 (Wakefield,

Middlesex, MA)  (none specified)        033-01-3224

Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

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Results 91 thru 105 of 425

Name    Birth   Death   Last Residence  Last Benefit    SSN

Issued  Tools

DANIEL CREAN    26 Jul 1904     04 Nov 1989     (not specified)

(none specified)        033-01-6663     Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

Add Post-em

DOROTHY CREAN   05 Jun 1925     Sep 1975        (not specified)

(none specified)        033-12-1736     Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

Add Post-em

ESTELLE CREAN   12 Sep 1925     Dec 1983        (not specified)

01040 (Holyoke, Hampden, MA)    034-12-0356     Massachusetts

SS-5 Letter

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MARY CREAN      02 Feb 1909     Jul 1974        02135 (Brighton,

Suffolk, MA)    (none specified)        034-18-1341

Massachusetts   SS-5 Letter

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IRENE CREAN     22 Aug 1894     Oct 1989        (not specified) (none

specified)      036-03-5353     Rhode Island    SS-5 Letter

Add Post-em

WILLIAM CREAN   26 Jul 1889     Jan 1970        02895 (Woonsocket,

Providence, RI) (none specified)        036-07-8475     Rhode

Island  SS-5 Letter

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KATHERINE CREAN 26 Jul 1911     Dec 1987        06705 (Waterbury,

New Haven, CT)  06705 (Waterbury, New Haven, CT)

040-14-0860     Connecticut     SS-5 Letter

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NORA CREAN      23 Mar 1893     Dec 1977        06702 (Waterbury, New

Haven, CT)      (none specified)        040-58-5864     Connecticut

SS-5 Letter

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JULIA CREAN     12 Sep 1904     13 Mar 1991     (not specified)

(none specified)        042-01-2342     Connecticut     SS-5 Letter

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MARY CREAN      17 Feb 1903     Dec 1978        06119 (W Hartford,

Hartford, CT)   06119 (W Hartford, Hartford, CT)

042-01-6408     Connecticut     SS-5 Letter

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JOHN CREAN      25 Jan 1894     Mar 1965        (Connecticut)   (none

specified)      042-12-0448     Connecticut     SS-5 Letter

Add Post-em

JAMES CREAN     29 Apr 1921     May 1976        (not specified) 06037

(Kensington, Hartford, CT)      043-16-1744     Connecticut

SS-5 Letter

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CATHERINE CREAN 12 Jul 1893     May 1966        06710 (Waterbury,

New Haven, CT)  (none specified)        043-20-0597

Connecticut     SS-5 Letter

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MARTIN CREAN    06 Mar 1893     May 1982        06401 (Ansonia, New

Haven, CT)      (none specified)        043-20-1033     Connecticut

SS-5 Letter

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JAMES CREAN     08 Feb 1907     Feb 1972        06109 (Wethersfield,

Hartford, CT)   (none specified)        043-36-0779     Connecticut

SS-5 Letter

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Results 106 thru 120 of 425

Name    Birth   Death   Last Residence  Last Benefit    SSN

Issued  Tools

ANNA CREAN      11 Jun 1916     10 Jan 1994     06705 (Waterbury,

New Haven, CT)  (none specified)        044-01-4549

Connecticut     SS-5 Letter

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ARLENE CREAN    04 Nov 1910     May 1982        06705 (Waterbury,

New Haven, CT)  (none specified)        044-01-7640

Connecticut     SS-5 Letter

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CONCETTA CREAN  24 Nov 1906     19 Apr 1998     06708

(Waterbury, New Haven, CT)      (none specified)

044-01-7688     Connecticut     SS-5 Letter

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MICHAEL CREAN   16 Feb 1917     01 Nov 1997     05201

(Bennington, Bennington, VT)    (none specified)

044-01-7772     Connecticut     SS-5 Letter

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PATRICK CREAN   09 Jan 1892     Dec 1973        06710 (Waterbury,

New Haven, CT)  (none specified)        044-03-0704

Connecticut     SS-5 Letter

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MARTIN CREAN    10 Mar 1890     May 1963        (Connecticut)   (none

specified)      044-03-1211     Connecticut     SS-5 Letter

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DANIEL CREAN    21 Dec 1910     12 Jan 1991     (not specified)

(none specified)        044-10-1376     Connecticut     SS-5 Letter

Add Post-em

JULIA CREAN     01 Feb 1906     Jan 1973        06492 (Wallingford,

New Haven, CT)  (none specified)        044-10-2027

Connecticut     SS-5 Letter

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WALTER CREAN    10 May 1908     May 1977        79986 (El Paso, El

Paso, TX)       06492 (Wallingford, New Haven, CT)

044-10-3320     Connecticut     SS-5 Letter

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MARION CREAN    29 Oct 1917     25 Jul 1995     06109

(Wethersfield, Hartford, CT)    (none specified)

044-16-9229     Connecticut     SS-5 Letter

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M CREAN Dec 0000        Jul 1958        (not specified) (none

specified)      044-18-1020     Connecticut     SS-5 Letter

Add Post-em

WILLIAM CREAN   21 Aug 1915     Nov 1986        33561 (Florida)

(none specified)        045-14-7613     Connecticut     SS-5 Letter

Add Post-em

JAMES CREAN     27 Apr 1878     Jul 1964        (Connecticut)   (none

specified)      046-05-1468     Connecticut     SS-5 Letter

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MARTIN CREAN    18 Mar 1908     Sep 1981        06708 (Waterbury,

New Haven, CT)  (none specified)        046-07-2449

Connecticut     SS-5 Letter

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MARY CREAN      11 Apr 1916     01 Jun 1993     06708 (Waterbury,

New Haven, CT)  (none specified)        046-07-7512

Connecticut     SS-5 Letter

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Results 121 thru 135 of 425

Name    Birth   Death   Last Residence  Last Benefit    SSN

Issued  Tools

MARY CREAN      10 Jun 1918     Sep 1980        06705 (Waterbury, New

Haven, CT)      06702 (Waterbury, New Haven, CT)

046-09-7375     Connecticut     SS-5 Letter

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BRIDGET CREAN   02 May 1891     Nov 1971        06704 (Waterbury,

New Haven, CT)  (none specified)        046-16-5453

Connecticut     SS-5 Letter

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THOMAS CREAN    11 Aug 1924     25 Jun 1999     06488 (Southbury,

New Haven, CT)  (none specified)        046-16-5720

Connecticut     SS-5 Letter

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MARJORIE CREAN  11 Apr 1923     29 Mar 1990     06111

(Newington, Hartford, CT)       (none specified)        046-40-5594

Connecticut     SS-5 Letter

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JAMES CREAN     15 Apr 1913     18 Jan 1996     06702 (Waterbury,

New Haven, CT)  (none specified)        047-01-1499

Connecticut     SS-5 Letter

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CHARLOTTE CREAN 18 Jun 1916     Nov 1983        06053 (New

Britain, Hartford, CT)  (none specified)        047-01-6141

Connecticut     SS-5 Letter

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JEROME CREAN    14 Apr 1907     Feb 1981        06053 (New Britain,

Hartford, CT)   (none specified)        047-01-6473     Connecticut

SS-5 Letter

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GERALD CREAN    21 Mar 1898     Jul 1979        06053 (New Britain,

Hartford, CT)   (none specified)        047-03-6576     Connecticut

SS-5 Letter

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MABEL CREAN     09 Aug 1924     Nov 1975        06037 (Kensington,

Hartford, CT)   (none specified)        047-12-1080     Connecticut

SS-5 Letter

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DONALD CREAN    11 Jan 1919     Nov 1974        06492 (Wallingford,

New Haven, CT)  (none specified)        048-05-2900

Connecticut     SS-5 Letter

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JOSEPH CREAN    24 May 1918     Jul 1982        06457 (Middletown,

Middlesex, CT)  (none specified)        048-07-8827

Connecticut     SS-5 Letter

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MARJORIE CREAN  08 Oct 1919     14 Jan 1987     06706

(Waterbury, New Haven, CT)      (none specified)

048-07-9115     Connecticut     SS-5 Letter

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EDWARD CREAN    07 Aug 1906     Dec 1986        01351 (Montague,

Franklin, MA)   (none specified)        050-01-5928     New York

SS-5 Letter

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PATRICK CREAN   05 Jan 1902     12 Jan 1983     (VA)    (none

specified)      050-07-3886     New York        SS-5 Letter

Add Post-em

JOHN CREAN      02 Mar 1911     May 1976        11210 (Brooklyn,

Kings, NY)      (none specified)        050-09-6389     New York        SS-5

Letter

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Results 136 thru 150 of 425

Name    Birth   Death   Last Residence  Last Benefit    SSN

Issued  Tools

JAMES CREAN     11 Mar 1901     Jun 1967        14213 (Buffalo, Erie,

NY)     (none specified)        050-12-0808     New York        SS-5 Letter

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THOMAS CREAN    11 Jun 1921     10 Jun 1989     (not specified)

(none specified)        050-14-2680     New York        SS-5 Letter

Add Post-em

MARY CREAN      06 Jul 1935     Apr 1980        (not specified) 15090

(Wexford, Allegheny, PA)        051-24-3270     New York        SS-5

Letter

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PETER CREAN     30 May 1893     Apr 1973        13207 (Syracuse,

Onondaga, NY)   (none specified)        052-20-2745     New York

SS-5 Letter

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MARGARET CREAN  01 Jan 1928     Dec 1980        13210 (Syracuse,

Onondaga, NY)   13204 (Syracuse, Onondaga, NY)

052-20-7995     New York        SS-5 Letter

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THOMAS CREAN    18 May 1918     12 May 1999     13204 (Syracuse,

Onondaga, NY)   (none specified)        052-20-9271     New York

SS-5 Letter

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JAMES CREAN     13 Jun 1914     Jun 1968        (not specified) (none

specified)      055-01-0822     New York        SS-5 Letter

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HAROLD CREAN    05 Apr 1904     18 Jul 1990     (not specified)

(none specified)        055-09-5853     New York        SS-5 Letter

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BEATRICE CREAN  03 Aug 1903     25 Dec 1997     06851 (Norwalk,

Fairfield, CT)  (none specified)        055-20-0900     New York

SS-5 Letter

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JOHN CREAN      15 Feb 1892     Aug 1973        64110 (Kansas City,

Jackson, MO)    (none specified)        056-01-3582     New York

SS-5 Letter

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ELIZABETH CREAN 26 Sep 1899     Jul 1995        11377 (Woodside,

Queens, NY)     (none specified)        056-05-4063     New York        SS-5

Letter

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IRENE CREAN     14 Aug 1897     Dec 1969        11372 (Jackson

Heights, Queens, NY)    (none specified)        057-05-6240     New

York    SS-5 Letter

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SEAN CREAN      31 Mar 1966     10 Mar 1997     11553 (Uniondale,

Nassau, NY)     (none specified)        057-48-4054     New York        SS-5

Letter

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ANDREW CREAN    29 Aug 1905     May 1969        (not specified)

(none specified)        058-05-4926     New York        SS-5 Letter

Add Post-em

GERTRUDE CREAN  27 Oct 1906     11 Feb 1991     10989 (Valley

Cottage, Rockland, NY)  (none specified)        058-30-6143

New York        SS-5 Letter

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Results 151 thru 165 of 425

Name    Birth   Death   Last Residence  Last Benefit    SSN

Issued  Tools

PETER CREAN     07 May 1908     Mar 1968        11227 (New York)

(none specified)        059-01-1459     New York        SS-5 Letter

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STEPHEN CREAN   15 Jun 1908     Sep 1984        33462 (Lake Worth,

Palm Beach, FL) 33462 (Lake Worth, Palm Beach, FL)

059-07-6584     New York        SS-5 Letter

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RUTH CREAN      15 Oct 1912     12 Dec 1989     (not specified)

(none specified)        060-03-6334     New York        SS-5 Letter

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ELLEN CREAN     27 Nov 1888     Oct 1981        10461 (Bronx, Bronx,

NY)     (none specified)        060-20-2338     New York        SS-5 Letter

Add Post-em

STEPHEN CREAN   06 Sep 1897     Feb 1986        XX900 (Europe)

(none specified)        060-26-0422     New York        SS-5 Letter

Add Post-em

CATHERINE CREAN 30 Sep 1900     Aug 1987        21208

(Pikesville, Baltimore, MD)     (none specified)

061-07-0574     New York        SS-5 Letter

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NONEY CREAN     10 Jun 1907     10 Jul 1995     11372 (Jackson

Heights, Queens, NY)    (none specified)        061-10-2399     New

York    SS-5 Letter

Add Post-em

HELEN CREAN     20 May 1928     23 Nov 1991     (not specified)

(none specified)        062-22-8225     New York        SS-5 Letter

Add Post-em

MARGARET CREAN  10 Jul 1907     Nov 1989        (not specified)

(none specified)        063-03-8187     New York        SS-5 Letter

Add Post-em

FRANCIS CREAN   07 Aug 1899     May 1964        (New York)      (none

specified)      063-09-1927     New York        SS-5 Letter

Add Post-em

P CREAN 22 Jul 1929     15 Feb 1989     (PE)    (none specified)

063-24-0614     New York        SS-5 Letter

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JOHN CREAN      04 Feb 1925     Nov 1977        (not specified) (none

specified)      064-20-4953     New York        SS-5 Letter

Add Post-em

EDWARD CREAN    16 Nov 1913     12 Dec 1991     11716 (Bohemia,

Suffolk, NY)    (none specified)        066-10-3507     New York

SS-5 Letter

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PATRICK CREAN   01 Jun 1894     Sep 1963        (New York)      (none

specified)      066-14-0729     New York        SS-5 Letter

Add Post-em

FRANCIS CREAN   07 Jun 1921     04 Nov 1993     10019 (New York,

New York, NY)   (none specified)        066-14-1292     New York

SS-5 Letter

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  Date:        Wed, 5 Apr 2000 04:41:54 -0700 (PDT)   From:        Caoimhghin O Croidheain <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>  | Block address Subject:        [CRYAN] soc sec crean 166-255

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Results 166 thru 180 of 425

Name    Birth   Death   Last Residence  Last Benefit    SSN

Issued  Tools

ALICE CREAN     27 Nov 1902     Nov 1966        10960 (Nyack,

Rockland, NY)   (none specified)        066-28-5281     New York

SS-5 Letter

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JOHN CREAN      13 Aug 1896     Sep 1966        10708 (Bronxville,

Westchester, NY)        (none specified)        067-07-0657     New York

SS-5 Letter

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ROLAND CREAN    06 Jan 1900     Jul 1979        07712 (Asbury Park,

Monmouth, NJ)   07753 (Neptune, Monmouth, NJ)

067-09-1811     New York        SS-5 Letter

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MARY CREAN      04 Jun 1897     Sep 1986        33701 (Saint

Petersburg, Pinellas, FL)       (none specified)        067-14-4170

New York        SS-5 Letter

Add Post-em

MICHAEL CREAN   01 May 1908     Oct 1963        (not specified)

(none specified)        068-01-7299     New York        SS-5 Letter

Add Post-em

ROSE CREAN      23 Jun 1909     16 Nov 1998     14094 (Lockport,

Niagara, NY)    (none specified)        068-50-3176     New York

SS-5 Letter

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BRIDGET CREAN   11 Apr 1901     Apr 1975        11103 (Astoria,

Queens, NY)     (none specified)        069-22-8839     New York        SS-5

Letter

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ELIZABETH CREAN 27 May 1893     Jul 1983        14094 (Lockport,

Niagara, NY)    (none specified)        069-52-9716     New York

SS-5 Letter

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MARTIN CREAN    31 Oct 1908     Oct 1985        14225 (Buffalo,

Erie, NY)       (none specified)        070-05-7378     New York        SS-5

Letter

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GEORGE CREAN    13 Jul 1899     Jun 1974        14223 (Buffalo,

Erie, NY)       (none specified)        070-09-2452     New York        SS-5

Letter

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DANIEL CREAN    03 Mar 1923     Feb 1978        33312 (Fort

Lauderdale, Broward, FL)        (none specified)        071-12-4271

New York        SS-5 Letter

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ANN CREAN       22 Apr 1914     21 Jun 1990     11716 (Bohemia,

Suffolk, NY)    (none specified)        072-07-4971     New York

SS-5 Letter

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JOSEPH CREAN    20 Jul 1905     Dec 1986        11596 (Williston

Park, Nassau, NY)       11596 (Williston Park, Nassau, NY)

072-12-4418     New York        SS-5 Letter

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PATRICK CREAN   20 Aug 1920     02 Apr 1990     (not specified)

(none specified)        072-16-4280     New York        SS-5 Letter

Add Post-em

PETER CREAN     20 Jul 1909     Apr 1973        91701 (Alta Loma, San

Bernardino, CA) (none specified)        075-09-1111     New York

SS-5 Letter

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Results 181 thru 195 of 425

Name    Birth   Death   Last Residence  Last Benefit    SSN

Issued  Tools

ANDREW CREAN    23 Apr 1921     24 Sep 1998     30338 (Atlanta,

Fulton, GA)     (none specified)        075-14-1724     New York        SS-5

Letter

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ELIZABETH CREAN 23 May 1885     Jan 1963        (New York)      (none

specified)      075-20-5808     New York        SS-5 Letter

Add Post-em

JOHN CREAN      30 Mar 1866     Jan 1963        (New York)      (none

specified)      076-16-2159     New York        SS-5 Letter

Add Post-em

JOSEPH CREAN    20 Mar 1903     Sep 1964        (not specified)

(none specified)        078-12-7103     New York        SS-5 Letter

Add Post-em

MARY CREAN      30 May 1912     11 Aug 1989     10468 (Bronx,

Bronx, NY)      (none specified)        078-24-5394     New York        SS-5

Letter

Add Post-em

PATRICIA CREAN  19 Jan 1923     Sep 1995        11960 (Remsenburg,

Suffolk, NY)    11960 (Remsenburg, Suffolk, NY)

079-18-1688     New York        SS-5 Letter

Add Post-em

MAE CREAN       15 Oct 1895     Feb 1970        32780 (Titusville,

Brevard, FL)    (none specified)        081-12-4508     New York

SS-5 Letter

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PETER CREAN     26 Oct 1892     May 1986        33596 (Florida) (none

specified)      081-18-0884     New York        SS-5 Letter

Add Post-em

LORRAINE CREAN  11 Jul 1931     Jan 1981        10708 (Bronxville,

Westchester, NY)        10708 (Bronxville, Westchester, NY)

081-24-1176     New York        SS-5 Letter

Add Post-em

ALBAN CREAN     14 Mar 1926     Apr 1975        (not specified) (none

specified)      081-32-6056     New York        SS-5 Letter

Add Post-em

DOROTHY CREAN   05 Aug 1903     Jun 1984        11030 (Manhasset,

Nassau, NY)     (none specified)        082-03-6253     New York        SS-5

Letter

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MARY CREAN      06 Mar 1921     Jun 1989        11706 (Bay Shore,

Suffolk, NY)    (none specified)        082-05-9668     New York

SS-5 Letter

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WILLIAM CREAN   13 Apr 1894     Nov 1964        (New York)      (none

specified)      082-10-1663     New York        SS-5 Letter

Add Post-em

JAMES CREAN     21 May 1886     Nov 1977        13413 (New Hartford,

Oneida, NY)     13413 (New Hartford, Oneida, NY)

083-10-6619     New York        SS-5 Letter

Add Post-em

JOSEPH CREAN    07 Apr 1913     Oct 1976        19145 (Philadelphia,

Philadelphia, PA)       (none specified)        084-09-3924     New

York    SS-5 Letter

Add Post-em

 

 

Results 196 thru 210 of 425

Name    Birth   Death   Last Residence  Last Benefit    SSN

Issued  Tools

DONALD CREAN    09 Jun 1926     Jun 1975        (not specified)

(none specified)        084-16-5951     New York        SS-5 Letter

Add Post-em

RITA CREAN      13 Feb 1900     Jan 1986        14873 (Prattsburgh,

Steuben, NY)    14873 (Prattsburgh, Steuben, NY)

084-24-6724     New York        SS-5 Letter

Add Post-em

HELEN CREAN     13 Jul 1908     Apr 1980        11694 (Rockaway Park,

Queens, NY)     11694 (Rockaway Park, Queens, NY)

085-07-3157     New York        SS-5 Letter

Add Post-em

MAY CREAN       24 Jan 1908     04 Jun 1988     33445 (Delray Beach,

Palm Beach, FL) (none specified)        086-07-5249     New York

SS-5 Letter

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JOHN CREAN      04 Apr 1898     Jan 1963        (New York)      (none

specified)      086-30-1977     New York        SS-5 Letter

Add Post-em

LILLIAN CREAN   16 Mar 1902     18 Nov 1998     14221 (Buffalo,

Erie, NY)       (none specified)        086-32-8908     New York        SS-5

Letter

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RAYMOND CREAN   30 Apr 1906     May 1963        (not specified)

(none specified)        087-03-8580     New York        SS-5 Letter

Add Post-em

JOHN CREAN      21 Nov 1901     Oct 1978        11237 (Brooklyn,

Kings, NY)      (none specified)        087-05-4691     New York        SS-5

Letter

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MARTIN CREAN    03 Jul 1913     May 1980        07013 (Clifton,

Passaic, NJ)    07013 (Clifton, Passaic, NJ)    087-10-8929

New York        SS-5 Letter

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EILEEN CREAN    02 Oct 1894     Jan 1987        11553 (Uniondale,

Nassau, NY)     (none specified)        087-22-6429     New York        SS-5

Letter

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MICHAEL CREAN   13 Sep 1894     Mar 1975        11554 (East Meadow,

Nassau, NY)     (none specified)        088-07-4910     New York        SS-5

Letter

Add Post-em

KATHERINE CREAN 13 Jan 1883     Dec 1974        10032 (New York,

New York, NY)   (none specified)        088-10-0718     New York

SS-5 Letter

Add Post-em

ARTHUR CREAN    10 Jul 1914     Jul 1978        (not specified)

11960 (Remsenburg, Suffolk, NY) 088-10-1302     New York

SS-5 Letter

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EDWARD CREAN    03 Apr 1936     Jun 1983        11706 (Bay Shore,

Suffolk, NY)    (none specified)        088-28-9425     New York

SS-5 Letter

Add Post-em

THOMAS CREAN    21 Dec 1921     Mar 1984        (not specified)

(none specified)        088-30-2448     New York        SS-5 Letter

 

Results 211 thru 225 of 425

Name    Birth   Death   Last Residence  Last Benefit    SSN

Issued  Tools

FULDA CREAN     07 Dec 1891     22 Jun 1988     05091 (Woodstock,

Windsor, VT)    (none specified)        089-05-0258     New York

SS-5 Letter

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EMMA CREAN      22 May 1893     15 Nov 1989     10463 (Bronx,

Bronx, NY)      (none specified)        089-10-0228     New York        SS-5

Letter

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WILLIAM CREAN   28 May 1920     Jun 1972        11235 (Brooklyn,

Kings, NY)      (none specified)        090-14-8720     New York        SS-5

Letter

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MARION CREAN    26 Jul 1901     Dec 1975        11706 (Bay Shore,

Suffolk, NY)    (none specified)        091-01-4469     New York

SS-5 Letter

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MARY CREAN      10 Sep 1911     May 1995        06850 (Norwalk,

Fairfield, CT)  06850 (Norwalk, Fairfield, CT)

091-01-6947     New York        SS-5 Letter

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ANN CREAN       28 Aug 1897     07 Mar 1989     11385 (Ridgewood,

Queens, NY)     (none specified)        091-01-8284     New York        SS-5

Letter

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CHARLES CREAN   29 Aug 1917     23 May 1992     75228 (Dallas,

Dallas, TX)     (none specified)        092-10-0548     New York        SS-5

Letter

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JANE CREAN      30 Dec 1895     Dec 1969        11379 (Middle Village,

Queens, NY)     (none specified)        092-10-4061     New York        SS-5

Letter

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ALICE CREAN     15 Jun 1910     Mar 1993        10451 (Bronx, Bronx,

NY)     (none specified)        093-28-3671     New York        SS-5 Letter

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THOMAS CREAN    07 Apr 1904     Jul 1982        12997 (Wilmington,

Essex, NY)      (none specified)        094-09-1292     New York        SS-5

Letter

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NORAH CREAN     30 Jul 1895     Mar 1973        10467 (Bronx, Bronx,

NY)     (none specified)        094-20-6831     New York        SS-5 Letter

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PETER CREAN     01 Mar 1958     Mar 1982        10538 (Larchmont,

Westchester, NY)        (none specified)        094-54-2029     New York

SS-5 Letter

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MARY CREAN      26 Jul 1880     May 1966        33510 (Brandon,

Hillsborough, FL)       (none specified)        096-14-6655     New

York    SS-5 Letter

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ELSIE CREAN     09 Aug 1914     Aug 1984        07013 (Clifton,

Passaic, NJ)    (none specified)        097-03-6799     New York

SS-5 Letter

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JOHN CREAN      06 Sep 1913     Dec 1981        10305 (Staten Island,

Richmond, NY)   10305 (Staten Island, Richmond, NY)

097-10-5491     New York        SS-5 Letter

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Results 226 thru 240 of 425

Name    Birth   Death   Last Residence  Last Benefit    SSN

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AGNES CREAN     16 Oct 1909     03 Jan 2000     11596 (Williston

Park, Nassau, NY)       (none specified)        097-18-4035     New

York    SS-5 Letter

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MARY CREAN      04 Nov 1896     Dec 1983        11553 (Uniondale,

Nassau, NY)     (none specified)        097-24-3259     New York        SS-5

Letter

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MARY CREAN      31 Jan 1916     Dec 1989        (HC)    (none specified)

097-42-5258     New York        SS-5 Letter

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SUSAN CREAN     13 Mar 1905     Feb 1991        (not specified) (none

specified)      098-09-7681     New York        SS-5 Letter

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ETHEL CREAN     22 May 1914     11 Oct 1994     11367 (Flushing,

Queens, NY)     (none specified)        098-16-0377     New York        SS-5

Letter

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JOSEPH CREAN    12 Dec 1927     Nov 1974        (not specified)

(none specified)        098-20-5851     New York        SS-5 Letter

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LAWRENCE CREAN  28 May 1910     05 Feb 1989     11374 (Rego

Park, Queens, NY)       (none specified)        099-03-0337     New

York    SS-5 Letter

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EDWARD CREAN    08 May 1899     Apr 1970        14304 (Niagara

Falls, Niagara, NY)     (none specified)        101-16-9184     New

York    SS-5 Letter

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CORNELIUS CREAN 25 Jan 1902     Oct 1970        11373 (Elmhurst,

Queens, NY)     (none specified)        101-32-6935     New York        SS-5

Letter

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CATHERINE CREAN 29 Aug 1929     15 May 1996     10463 (Bronx,

Bronx, NY)      (none specified)        102-22-9404     New York        SS-5

Letter

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WILLIE CREAN    23 Jul 1907     16 Mar 1996     33462 (Lake

Worth, Palm Beach, FL)  33462 (Lake Worth, Palm Beach,

FL)     104-01-8774     New York        SS-5 Letter

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THOMAS CREAN    13 Dec 1927     Oct 1983        (not specified)

10965 (Pearl River, Rockland, NY)       104-20-0779     New York

SS-5 Letter

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JOHN CREAN      12 Sep 1887     Jan 1966        (New York)      (none

specified)      105-01-4119     New York        SS-5 Letter

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BETTY CREAN     20 Dec 1898     Nov 1985        14223 (Buffalo, Erie,

NY)     (none specified)        105-07-1504     New York        SS-5 Letter

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JOHN CREAN      20 Feb 1918     Jan 1973        14225 (Buffalo, Erie,

NY)     (none specified)        106-05-2784     New York        SS-5 Letter

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Results 241 thru 255 of 425

Name    Birth   Death   Last Residence  Last Benefit    SSN

Issued  Tools

ELIZABETH CREAN 05 Dec 1903     Dec 1973        14225 (Buffalo,

Erie, NY)       (none specified)        106-28-5165     New York        SS-5

Letter

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MARGARET CREAN  24 May 1896     Nov 1982        14305 (Niagara

Falls, Niagara, NY)     (none specified)        107-03-3435     New

York    SS-5 Letter

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ELIZABETH CREAN 02 Jan 1899     Sep 1970        10468 (Bronx,

Bronx, NY)      (none specified)        107-26-8565     New York        SS-5

Letter

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PETER CREAN     18 Jan 1923     01 Nov 1994     13203 (Syracuse,

Onondaga, NY)   (none specified)        108-16-9133     New York

SS-5 Letter

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THOMAS CREAN    05 Sep 1895     May 1971        10033 (New York, New

York, NY)       (none specified)        109-12-2272     New York        SS-5

Letter

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JOHN CREAN      13 Dec 1907     Feb 1978        10023 (New York, New

York, NY)       (none specified)        110-07-7342     New York        SS-5

Letter

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DANIEL CREAN    31 Mar 1927     05 Jun 1982     (VA)    (none

specified)      111-18-0053     New York        SS-5 Letter

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MARTIN CREAN    03 Oct 1913     Jul 1964        (not specified)

(none specified)        112-01-0639     New York        SS-5 Letter

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LEONORE CREAN   14 Nov 1901     31 Aug 1987     11714 (Bethpage,

Nassau, NY)     (none specified)        112-03-6751     New York        SS-5

Letter

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JAMES CREAN     19 Apr 1897     19 May 1988     (not specified)

(none specified)        112-03-8678     New York        SS-5 Letter

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GEORGE CREAN    20 May 1912     08 Mar 1995     12997

(Wilmington, Essex, NY) (none specified)        112-07-0908

New York        SS-5 Letter

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MELINDA CREAN   13 May 1911     10 Nov 1996     91740 (Glendora,

Los Angeles, CA)        (none specified)        112-07-2047     New York

SS-5 Letter

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MARYALICE CREAN 03 Aug 1905     Apr 1989        (not specified)

(none specified)        112-32-6305     New York        SS-5 Letter

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JEREMIAH CREAN  29 Jun 1911     03 Apr 1991     (not specified)

(none specified)        113-01-0621     New York        SS-5 Letter

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THOMAS CREAN    14 Feb 1908     07 Mar 1996     08724 (Brick,

Ocean, NJ)      (none specified)        113-01-0622     New York        SS-5

Letter

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Date:        Wed, 5 Apr 2000 04:56:50 -0700 (PDT)   From:        Caoimhghin O Croidheain <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>  | Block address Subject: [CRYAN] soc sec crean 256-361

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Results 256 thru 270 of 425

Name    Birth   Death   Last Residence  Last Benefit    SSN

Issued  Tools

THERESA CREAN   18 Apr 1896     Sep 1971        11783 (Seaford,

Nassau, NY)     (none specified)        113-18-7285     New York        SS-5

Letter

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MARTIN CREAN    24 Mar 1884     Jan 1968        10009 (New York, New

York, NY)       (none specified)        114-05-6664     New York        SS-5

Letter

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DONALD CREAN    30 Jan 1926     02 Dec 1989     (not specified)

(none specified)        116-14-2826     New York        SS-5 Letter

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MARY CREAN      16 Aug 1902     Jan 1979        10543 (Mamaroneck,

Westchester, NY)        10543 (Mamaroneck, Westchester, NY)

118-22-0731     New York        SS-5 Letter

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JOAN CREAN      20 Apr 1929     10 Jul 1998     10470 (Bronx,

Bronx, NY)      (none specified)        119-20-1171     New York        SS-5

Letter

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MARGARET CREAN  25 Sep 1929     06 Feb 2000     11596

(Williston Park, Nassau, NY)    (none specified)

119-22-8208     New York        SS-5 Letter

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MURIEL CREAN    26 Feb 1918     Feb 1974        (not specified)

(none specified)        120-05-5637     New York        SS-5 Letter

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EDWARD CREAN    22 Dec 1915     Jun 1960        (not specified)

(none specified)        120-12-9603     New York        SS-5 Letter

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VIRGINIA CREAN  14 Jan 1911     Jul 1973        11373 (Elmhurst,

Queens, NY)     (none specified)        120-30-8989     New York        SS-5

Letter

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MARIAN CREAN    14 Sep 1907     10 Jan 1995     14873

(Prattsburgh, Steuben, NY)      (none specified)

121-12-3090     New York        SS-5 Letter

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PATRICK CREAN   10 Oct 1895     02 Jun 1991     (not specified)

(none specified)        121-16-5308     New York        SS-5 Letter

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THOMAS CREAN    16 Jul 1937     Jun 1975        (not specified)

(none specified)        121-28-5095     New York        SS-5 Letter

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ROSE CREAN      19 Jul 1890     Mar 1976        14760 (Olean,

Cattaraugus, NY)        (none specified)        122-07-5735     New York

SS-5 Letter

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JOHN CREAN      12 Apr 1899     Jul 1975        10708 (Bronxville,

Westchester, NY)        (none specified)        125-03-0487     New York

SS-5 Letter

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JAMES CREAN     13 Apr 1920     09 Mar 1970     (VA)    (none

specified)      125-07-0024     New York        SS-5 Letter

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Results 271 thru 285 of 425

Name    Birth   Death   Last Residence  Last Benefit    SSN

Issued  Tools

LETITIA CREAN   06 Aug 1892     Sep 1981        XX800 (Europe)

(none specified)        125-09-7078     New York        SS-5 Letter

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MARY CREAN      02 Feb 1898     Oct 1973        11377 (Woodside,

Queens, NY)     (none specified)        125-18-4499     New York        SS-5

Letter

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PATRICK CREAN   20 Oct 1913     Mar 1987        XX900 (Europe)

(none specified)        125-24-8068     New York        SS-5 Letter

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EDWARD CREAN    19 Jul 1939     04 Oct 1995     10463 (Bronx,

Bronx, NY)      (none specified)        125-30-8634     New York        SS-5

Letter

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ROSE CREAN      17 Aug 1894     Feb 1970        10301 (Staten Island,

Richmond, NY)   (none specified)        125-40-8451     New York

SS-5 Letter

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MARIAN CREAN    27 Jul 1918     06 Apr 1998     14052 (East

Aurora, Erie, NY)       (none specified)        128-10-6251     New

York    SS-5 Letter

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FRANCIS CREAN   15 Feb 1937     Jun 1972        (not specified)

(none specified)        128-28-5593     New York        SS-5 Letter

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ANTHONY CREAN   16 Jul 1891     Apr 1975        XX900 (Europe)

(none specified)        129-03-8406     New York        SS-5 Letter

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JAMES CREAN     16 Oct 1924     13 Nov 1994     11757

(Lindenhurst, Suffolk, NY)      (none specified)

130-16-3812     New York        SS-5 Letter

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MARY CREAN      06 Jan 1904     04 Mar 1996     11427 (Queens

Village, Queens, NY)    (none specified)        130-34-3621     New

York    SS-5 Letter

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MARY CREAN      10 Oct 1910     Sep 1980        (not specified) 11420

(South Ozone Park, Queens, NY)  130-38-3786     New York

SS-5 Letter

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EILEEN CREAN    31 Oct 1912     09 Jan 1988     11210 (Brooklyn,

Kings, NY)      (none specified)        131-03-2671     New York        SS-5

Letter

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HELEN CREAN     16 Oct 1926     Nov 1984        11725 (Commack,

Suffolk, NY)    (none specified)        132-16-0247     New York

SS-5 Letter

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ELLEN CREAN     14 Sep 1895     Feb 1967        13206 (Syracuse,

Onondaga, NY)   (none specified)        133-20-0545     New York

SS-5 Letter

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HUBERT CREAN    10 Oct 1919     26 Nov 1995     14052 (East

Aurora, Erie, NY)       (none specified)        134-01-4615     New

York    SS-5 Letter

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Results 286 thru 300 of 425

Name    Birth   Death   Last Residence  Last Benefit    SSN

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J CREAN 02 May 1920     Jun 1976        (PE)    (none specified)

134-10-6448     New York        SS-5 Letter

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JERRY CREAN     20 Jun 1885     Dec 1970        13208 (Syracuse,

Onondaga, NY)   (none specified)        134-12-4631     New York

SS-5 Letter

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CHARLES CREAN   08 Aug 1943     03 Dec 1982     (VA)    (none

specified)      134-34-6717     New York        SS-5 Letter

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LORRAINE CREAN  30 Oct 1918     Jan 1985        10589 (Somers,

Westchester, NY)        10589 (Somers, Westchester, NY)

136-14-1652     New Jersey      SS-5 Letter

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ANTHONY CREAN   22 Aug 1916     23 Jul 1991     29926 (Hilton

Head Island, Beaufort, SC)      (none specified)

137-16-8788     New Jersey      SS-5 Letter

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JOSEPH CREAN    04 Feb 1910     Feb 1976        08108 (Collingswood,

Camden, NJ)     (none specified)        139-03-5296     New Jersey

SS-5 Letter

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VINCENT CREAN   02 Dec 1914     20 Aug 1988     07081

(Springfield, Union, NJ)        (none specified)        140-07-1846

New Jersey      SS-5 Letter

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KATHERINE CREAN 21 Feb 1891     Sep 1970        07047 (North

Bergen, Hudson, NJ)     (none specified)        140-30-3262     New

Jersey  SS-5 Letter

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ROBERT CREAN    03 Mar 1921     03 Oct 1989     (not specified)

(none specified)        141-18-0863     New Jersey      SS-5 Letter

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ANNA CREAN      30 Nov 1914     14 Jul 1998     08723 (Brick,

Ocean, NJ)      (none specified)        141-30-7359     New Jersey

SS-5 Letter

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GERTRUDE CREAN  27 Aug 1895     Aug 1980        07740 (Long

Branch, Monmouth, NJ)   (none specified)        141-62-8230     New

Jersey  SS-5 Letter

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WILLIAM CREAN   28 Jun 1922     04 Jan 1998     28470 (South

Brunswick, Brunswick, NC)       (none specified)        142-16-4269

New Jersey      SS-5 Letter

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MARY CREAN      11 Feb 1902     Sep 1968        07307 (Jersey City,

Hudson, NJ)     (none specified)        142-26-2754     New Jersey

SS-5 Letter

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GERALD CREAN    30 Jun 1921     20 Mar 1998     07403

(Bloomingdale, Passaic, NJ)     (none specified)

143-12-3308     New Jersey      SS-5 Letter

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FLORENCE CREAN  27 Jul 1901     29 Nov 1992     75244 (Dallas,

Dallas, TX)     (none specified)        143-26-1878     New Jersey

SS-5 Letter

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Results 301 thru 315 of 425

Name    Birth   Death   Last Residence  Last Benefit    SSN

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ELIZABETH CREAN 13 Dec 1881     Sep 1966        08105 (Camden,

Camden, NJ)     (none specified)        145-05-9207     New Jersey

SS-5 Letter

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STEPHEN CREAN   07 Jul 1881     Jun 1980        33507 (Florida)

33506   146-03-6519     New Jersey      SS-5 Letter

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MONICA CREAN    24 Nov 1910     Dec 1991        (not specified)

(none specified)        146-05-3103     New Jersey      SS-5 Letter

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JAMES CREAN     28 Oct 1888     Jan 1976        07740 (Long Branch,

Monmouth, NJ)   (none specified)        146-12-0231     New Jersey

SS-5 Letter

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ROBERT CREAN    30 Jun 1924     19 Sep 1997     33993 (Cape

Coral, Lee, FL) (none specified)        149-14-3801     New

Jersey  SS-5 Letter

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ROSE CREAN      16 May 1911     27 Jan 1991     08055 (Medford,

Burlington, NJ) (none specified)        150-10-9806     New

Jersey  SS-5 Letter

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HELEN CREAN     15 Dec 1906     20 Jul 1999     07753 (Neptune,

Monmouth, NJ)   (none specified)        150-18-4836     New Jersey

SS-5 Letter

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JOHN CREAN      05 Jun 1933     06 Jan 1983     (VA)    (none

specified)      150-24-4728     New Jersey      SS-5 Letter

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EVELYN CREAN    03 Mar 1921     Apr 1985        (not specified)

08087 (Tuckerton, Ocean, NJ)    151-20-1192     New Jersey

SS-5 Letter

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LAWRENCE CREAN  24 Aug 1913     23 Mar 1994     90043 (Los

Angeles, Los Angeles, CA)       (none specified)        152-01-7898

New Jersey      SS-5 Letter

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WALTER CREAN    09 Sep 1912     Dec 1983        08723 (Brick, Ocean,

NJ)     (none specified)        152-05-0339     New Jersey      SS-5

Letter

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JOHN CREAN      31 Dec 1904     Nov 1978        08106 (Audubon,

Camden, NJ)     08106 (Audubon, Camden, NJ)     152-28-0507

New Jersey      SS-5 Letter

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NICHOLAS CREAN  01 Aug 1876     Dec 1963        (New Jersey)    (none

specified)      154-03-7237     New Jersey      SS-5 Letter

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MYLES CREAN     16 Sep 1918     Jul 1976        07403 (Bloomingdale,

Passaic, NJ)    (none specified)        154-03-9675     New Jersey

SS-5 Letter

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THOMAS CREAN    13 May 1923     14 Aug 1991     19808

(Wilmington, New Castle, DE)    (none specified)

155-07-0666     New Jersey      SS-5 Letter

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Results 316 thru 330 of 425

Name    Birth   Death   Last Residence  Last Benefit    SSN

Issued  Tools

JOHN CREAN      16 Jun 1919     Feb 1989        08226 (Ocean City,

Cape May, NJ)   08226 (Ocean City, Cape May, NJ)

156-07-7781     New Jersey      SS-5 Letter

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MARY CREAN      20 Jul 1904     Jun 1987        07306 (Jersey City,

Hudson, NJ)     (none specified)        156-22-4072     New Jersey

SS-5 Letter

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JOHN CREAN      29 Jun 1915     18 Jun 1991     (not specified)

(none specified)        162-03-8115     Pennsylvania    SS-5 Letter

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ALBEANIA CREAN  02 Jul 1882     Dec 1969        19150

(Philadelphia, Philadelphia, PA)        (none specified)

162-30-5564     Pennsylvania    SS-5 Letter

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MARGARET CREAN  25 Dec 1909     06 Nov 1990     19143

(Philadelphia, Philadelphia, PA)        (none specified)

163-28-1111     Pennsylvania    SS-5 Letter

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MARY CREAN      05 Aug 1914     Oct 1981        19148 (Philadelphia,

Philadelphia, PA)       (none specified)        164-01-0122

Pennsylvania    SS-5 Letter

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JOHN CREAN      02 Sep 1885     Jan 1966        01079 (Thorndike,

Hampden, MA)    (none specified)        164-07-6937     Pennsylvania

SS-5 Letter

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ELIZABETH CREAN 06 Jul 1918     02 Mar 1991     19111

(Philadelphia, Philadelphia, PA)        (none specified)

165-07-5367     Pennsylvania    SS-5 Letter

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VIVIAN CREAN    14 Feb 1920     May 1996        19135 (Philadelphia,

Philadelphia, PA)       19135 (Philadelphia, Philadelphia,

PA)     167-16-9838     Pennsylvania    SS-5 Letter

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GERTRUDE CREAN  31 Oct 1904     05 Mar 1991     08401 (Atlantic

City, Atlantic, NJ)     (none specified)        168-32-6053

Pennsylvania    SS-5 Letter

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THOMAS CREAN    21 Nov 1921     07 Aug 1988     19135

(Philadelphia, Philadelphia, PA)        (none specified)

169-12-6436     Pennsylvania    SS-5 Letter

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PEARL CREAN     09 Dec 1901     01 Nov 1991     (not specified)

(none specified)        173-40-1532     Pennsylvania    SS-5 Letter

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DICK CREAN      15 Mar 1902     Feb 1965        19128 (Philadelphia,

Philadelphia, PA)       (none specified)        176-28-3352

Pennsylvania    SS-5 Letter

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MILNE CREAN     12 Apr 1928     Nov 1994        06110 (W Hartford,

Hartford, CT)   (none specified)        178-20-5675

Pennsylvania    SS-5 Letter

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THOMAS CREAN    29 Jun 1920     16 Mar 1994     07869 (Randolph,

Morris, NJ)     (none specified)        180-16-4102     Pennsylvania

SS-5 Letter

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Results 331 thru 345 of 425

Name    Birth   Death   Last Residence  Last Benefit    SSN

Issued  Tools

THOMAS CREAN    21 Oct 1911     May 1979        18976 (Warrington,

Bucks, PA)      (none specified)        181-09-6443     Pennsylvania

SS-5 Letter

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ROBERT CREAN    09 Jun 1921     20 Aug 1999     89030 (North Las

Vegas, Clark, NV)       (none specified)        182-07-8636

Pennsylvania    SS-5 Letter

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WILLIAM CREAN   17 Jun 1916     Jul 1982        19116

(Philadelphia, Philadelphia, PA)        (none specified)

182-07-9513     Pennsylvania    SS-5 Letter

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EDWIN CREAN     17 Apr 1898     Sep 1968        33161 (Miami,

Miami-dade, FL) (none specified)        182-20-4050

Pennsylvania    SS-5 Letter

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JOHN CREAN      04 Jun 1910     19 Jul 1990     (not specified)

(none specified)        184-09-6519     Pennsylvania    SS-5 Letter

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MARY CREAN      18 Oct 1923     23 Aug 1988     19148

(Philadelphia, Philadelphia, PA)        (none specified)

186-12-4835     Pennsylvania    SS-5 Letter

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FRANK CREAN     25 Oct 1917     Aug 1974        19147 (Philadelphia,

Philadelphia, PA)       (none specified)        197-09-6669

Pennsylvania    SS-5 Letter

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JAMES CREAN     27 Oct 1926     Jan 1984        19149 (Philadelphia,

Philadelphia, PA)       19149 (Philadelphia, Philadelphia,

PA)     197-16-8179     Pennsylvania    SS-5 Letter

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EMMA CREAN      26 Sep 1903     Sep 1985        19047 (Langhorne,

Bucks, PA)      (none specified)        197-36-1540     Pennsylvania

SS-5 Letter

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CATHERINE CREAN 06 Jan 1896     Dec 1978        08046

(Willingboro, Burlington, NJ)   08046 (Willingboro,

Burlington, NJ) 198-07-7336     Pennsylvania    SS-5 Letter

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HARRY CREAN     15 Aug 1903     Oct 1970        19117 (Pennsylvania)

(none specified)        199-18-5254     Pennsylvania    SS-5 Letter

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FRANCES CREAN   05 Aug 1915     12 Dec 1999     32750 (Longwood,

Seminole, FL)   (none specified)        213-40-8989     Maryland

SS-5 Letter

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JEROME CREAN    10 Jun 1915     Aug 1976        (not specified)

(none specified)        215-38-3345     Maryland        SS-5 Letter

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ANNE CREAN      01 Apr 1908     11 Nov 1996     11385 (Ridgewood,

Queens, NY)     (none specified)        237-07-1736     North

Carolina        SS-5 Letter

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JOHN CREAN      28 Jul 1884     Sep 1963        (Georgia)       (none

specified)      255-58-9909     Georgia SS-5 Letter

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Results 346 thru 360 of 425

Name    Birth   Death   Last Residence  Last Benefit    SSN

Issued  Tools

CATHERINE CREAN 16 Dec 1916     Oct 1995        34210 (Bradenton,

Manatee, FL)    (none specified)        262-48-9337     Florida SS-5

Letter

Add Post-em

MARGARET CREAN  26 Sep 1908     Oct 1991        (not specified)

(none specified)        270-32-6290     Ohio    SS-5 Letter

Add Post-em

CAROLINE CREAN  11 Nov 1910     21 Dec 1993     43056 (Heath,

Licking, OH)    (none specified)        275-62-7066     Ohio    SS-5

Letter

Add Post-em

DAN CREAN       25 Jun 1892     04 Nov 1990     43055 (Newark,

Licking, OH)    (none specified)        277-07-5131     Ohio    SS-5

Letter

Add Post-em

RAYMOND CREAN   18 May 1914     09 Feb 1999     33433 (Boca

Raton, Palm Beach, FL)  (none specified)        277-07-5133

Ohio    SS-5 Letter

Add Post-em

VIRGINIA CREAN  23 Jan 1900     Feb 1968        45406 (Dayton,

Montgomery, OH) (none specified)        277-07-6039     Ohio    SS-5

Letter

Add Post-em

GENEVA CREAN    24 Dec 1912     05 Sep 1989     33408 (North Palm

Beach, Palm Beach, FL)  (none specified)        277-07-7570

Ohio    SS-5 Letter

Add Post-em

EMMA CREAN      26 Jan 1914     29 Jul 1999     44001 (Amherst,

Lorain, OH)     (none specified)        283-22-0634     Ohio    SS-5

Letter

Add Post-em

PATRICK CREAN   01 Jan 1905     Oct 1977        44504 (Youngstown,

Mahoning, OH)   (none specified)        292-10-0902     Ohio    SS-5

Letter

Add Post-em

JAMES CREAN     31 Mar 1893     Jun 1973        46383 (Valparaiso,

Porter, IN)     (none specified)        320-05-6852     Illinois        SS-5

Letter

Add Post-em

NORA CREAN      16 Jul 1899     15 Apr 1997     60614 (Chicago,

Cook, IL)       (none specified)        321-26-3790     Illinois        SS-5

Letter

Add Post-em

JAMES CREAN     06 Jun 1901     Sep 1989        60629 (Chicago, Cook,

IL)     (none specified)        322-12-5915     Illinois        SS-5 Letter

Add Post-em

ANNA CREAN      28 Feb 1892     Jan 1982        60465 (Palos Hills,

Cook, IL)       (none specified)        323-22-2358     Illinois        SS-5

Letter

Add Post-em

HELEN CREAN     09 Dec 1897     Jun 1981        60453 (Oak Lawn,

Cook, IL)       60501 (Summit Argo, Cook, IL)   326-01-0449

Illinois        SS-5 Letter

Add Post-em

JOHN CREAN      11 Feb 1911     Dec 1967        (not specified) (none

specified)      331-09-4706     Illinois        SS-5 Letter

Add Post-em

 

Date:        Wed, 5 Apr 2000 03:26:34 -0700 (PDT)   From:        Caoimhghin O Croidheain <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>  |  Subject:        [CRYAN] soc sec crean 3

     To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Results 361 thru 375 of 425

Name    Birth   Death   Last Residence  Last Benefit    SSN

Issued  Tools

MICHAEL CREAN   19 Feb 1909     Feb 1983        50158

(Marshalltown, Marshall, IA)    (none specified)

331-09-5390     Illinois        SS-5 Letter

Add Post-em

THOMAS CREAN    11 Jan 1932     01 Oct 1993     (not specified)

(none specified)        334-24-5214     Illinois        SS-5 Letter

Add Post-em

CATHLEEN CREAN  04 Oct 1905     05 Apr 1997     11361 (Bayside,

Queens, NY)     (none specified)        338-10-4967     Illinois        SS-5

Letter

Add Post-em

MICHAEL CREAN   25 Jul 1899     Jul 1980        60629 (Chicago,

Cook, IL)       (none specified)        342-40-8865     Illinois        SS-5

Letter

Add Post-em

THOMAS CREAN    18 Jun 1897     Apr 1965        (Illinois)      (none

specified)      343-01-3352     Illinois        SS-5 Letter

Add Post-em

THOMAS CREAN    15 Jul 1885     Jan 1972        60515 (Downers

Grove, Du Page, IL)     (none specified)        347-03-8821

Illinois        SS-5 Letter

Add Post-em

WILLIAM CREAN   15 Mar 1907     Feb 1973        92069 (San Marcos,

San Diego, CA)  (none specified)        347-05-9724     Illinois

SS-5 Letter

Add Post-em

ROSAIRE CREAN   27 Sep 1919     12 Jan 1994     60025 (Glenview,

Cook, IL)       (none specified)        351-03-8430     Illinois        SS-5

Letter

Add Post-em

JAMES CREAN     16 Feb 1925     11 Oct 1996     60419 (Dolton,

Cook, IL)       (none specified)        352-16-7167     Illinois        SS-5

Letter

Add Post-em

VELMA CREAN     17 May 1905     Feb 1990        80214 (Denver,

Jefferson, CO)  (none specified)        352-16-8675     Illinois

SS-5 Letter

Add Post-em

CHESTER CREAN   13 Oct 1903     Jul 1980        60025 (Glenview,

Cook, IL)       (none specified)        352-38-8501     Illinois        SS-5

Letter

Add Post-em

EDWARD CREAN    16 Sep 1906     Nov 1968        98104 (Seattle,

King, WA)       (none specified)        360-09-3801     Illinois        SS-5

Letter

Add Post-em

MABEL CREAN     20 Nov 1911     Oct 1980        (not specified) 61938

(Mattoon, Coles, IL)    361-05-4821     Illinois        SS-5 Letter

Add Post-em

DIXIE CREAN     24 Nov 1911     Sep 1995        48220 (Ferndale,

Oakland, MI)    (none specified)        365-01-6218     Michigan

SS-5 Letter

Add Post-em

JOSEPH CREAN    04 Oct 1881     Apr 1964        (Michigan)      (none

specified)      366-03-8651     Michigan        SS-5 Letter

Add Post-em

 

 

Date:        Wed, 5 Apr 2000 04:46:00 -0700 (PDT)   From:        Caoimhghin O Croidheain <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>  | Subject:        [CRYAN] soc sec crean 375-425     To:

        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Results 376 thru 390 of 425

Name    Birth   Death   Last Residence  Last Benefit    SSN

Issued  Tools

JAMES CREAN     03 Oct 1933     Feb 1985        48063 (Columbus,

Saint Clair, MI)        48063 (Columbus, Saint Clair, MI)

366-32-7047     Michigan        SS-5 Letter

Add Post-em

MARY CREAN      08 May 1895     Sep 1972        48625 (Harrison,

Clare, MI)      (none specified)        366-68-1445     Michigan        SS-5

Letter

Add Post-em

FLORENCE CREAN  18 Sep 1890     Sep 1985        49637 (Grawn,

Grand Traverse, MI)     (none specified)        370-68-7426

Michigan        SS-5 Letter

Add Post-em

JAMES CREAN     03 Nov 1904     Nov 1975        48220 (Ferndale,

Oakland, MI)    (none specified)        376-03-1170     Michigan

SS-5 Letter

Add Post-em

JULIAN CREAN    28 Jan 1909     Jul 1973        40204 (Louisville,

Jefferson, KY)  (none specified)        376-40-5616     Michigan

SS-5 Letter

Add Post-em

DRUSILLA CREAN  09 Oct 1921     26 Jan 1995     12309

(Schenectady, Schenectady, NY)  (none specified)

404-12-5891     Kentucky        SS-5 Letter

Add Post-em

WILLIAM CREAN   04 Jun 1886     May 1969        36608 (Mobile,

Mobile, AL)     (none specified)        423-68-2069     Alabama SS-5

Letter

Add Post-em

RUBY CREAN      04 Aug 1909     01 Jul 1998     75224 (Dallas,

Dallas, TX)     (none specified)        456-10-0997     Texas   SS-5

Letter

Add Post-em

JOSEPHINE CREAN 29 Dec 1888     Mar 1987        56085 (Sleepy

Eye, Brown, MN) (none specified)        469-56-3198     Minnesota

SS-5 Letter

Add Post-em

EDWARD CREAN    11 Aug 1921     12 Jan 1992     (not specified)

(none specified)        473-12-5034     Minnesota       SS-5 Letter

Add Post-em

FRANK CREAN     18 Dec 1884     Jan 1968        56001 (Mankato, Blue

Earth, MN)      (none specified)        473-42-5352     Minnesota       SS-5

Letter

Add Post-em

J CREAN 22 Jul 1880     Dec 1967        56013 (Blue Earth,

Faribault, MN)  (none specified)        473-44-4300     Minnesota

SS-5 Letter

Add Post-em

ROBERT CREAN    06 Apr 1920     Jul 1978        (not specified)

63119 (Saint Louis, Saint Louis, MO)    486-18-4057

Missouri        SS-5 Letter

Add Post-em

THELMA CREAN    13 Aug 1899     17 Dec 1988     63123 (Saint

Louis, Saint Louis, MO) (none specified)        486-32-0261

Missouri        SS-5 Letter

Add Post-em

KATHERINE CREAN 19 Oct 1881     Dec 1972        63143 (Saint

Louis, Saint Louis, MO) (none specified)        486-56-8222

Missouri        SS-5 Letter

Add Post-em

 

 

Results 391 thru 405 of 425

Name    Birth   Death   Last Residence  Last Benefit    SSN

Issued  Tools

ANNA CREAN      06 Sep 1894     Sep 1979        (not specified) 63130

(Saint Louis, Saint Louis, MO)  486-64-3476     Missouri

SS-5 Letter

Add Post-em

JOHN CREAN      29 Dec 1909     Mar 1954        (not specified) (none

specified)      487-05-6309     Missouri        SS-5 Letter

Add Post-em

ALICE CREAN     01 May 1903     29 Jun 1991     (not specified)

(none specified)        488-03-5982     Missouri        SS-5 Letter

Add Post-em

MARY CREAN      30 Oct 1890     May 1968        63143 (Saint Louis,

Saint Louis, MO)        (none specified)        488-05-7796     Missouri

SS-5 Letter

Add Post-em

VIOLET CREAN    01 Oct 1919     Feb 1989        63123 (Saint Louis,

Saint Louis, MO)        (none specified)        488-16-8541     Missouri

SS-5 Letter

Add Post-em

ANDREW CREAN    10 Jan 1895     Nov 1979        63124 (Saint Louis,

Saint Louis, MO)        63119 (Saint Louis, Saint Louis, MO)

489-01-5507     Missouri        SS-5 Letter

Add Post-em

FRANCIS CREAN   19 Sep 1927     11 Jul 1996     63051 (House

Springs, Jefferson, MO) (none specified)        489-34-0430

Missouri        SS-5 Letter

Add Post-em

EMMA CREAN      29 Oct 1892     17 Sep 1987     63129 (Saint Louis,

Saint Louis, MO)        (none specified)        489-42-2510     Missouri

SS-5 Letter

Add Post-em

BESS CREAN      14 Jul 1888     Feb 1971        63301 (Saint Charles,

Saint Charles, MO)      (none specified)        489-50-4755

Missouri        SS-5 Letter

Add Post-em

EUGENE CREAN    05 Feb 1898     Mar 1976        63049 (High Ridge,

Jefferson, MO)  63049 (High Ridge, Jefferson, MO)

490-32-0602     Missouri        SS-5 Letter

Add Post-em

LEO CREAN       28 Mar 1888     Nov 1969        63105 (Saint Louis,

Saint Louis, MO)        (none specified)        493-03-8392     Missouri

SS-5 Letter

Add Post-em

THOMAS CREAN    01 Jul 1900     May 1973        48625 (Harrison,

Clare, MI)      (none specified)        544-40-5680     Oregon  SS-5

Letter

Add Post-em

JAMES CREAN     20 Nov 1912     Feb 1981        95014 (Cupertino,

Santa Clara, CA)        (none specified)        545-10-8460

California      SS-5 Letter

Add Post-em

NORA CREAN      01 Jun 1882     Apr 1971        94114 (San Francisco,

San Francisco, CA)      (none specified)        545-82-0724

California      SS-5 Letter

Add Post-em

MARIE CREAN     01 May 1884     Jan 1973        90221 (Compton, Los

Angeles, CA)    (none specified)        549-52-3212     California

SS-5 Letter

Add Post-em

 

Results 406 thru 420 of 425

Name    Birth   Death   Last Residence  Last Benefit    SSN

Issued  Tools

JOSEPH CREAN    26 Dec 1910     Sep 1964        (not specified)

(none specified)        551-26-8769     California      SS-5 Letter

Add Post-em

JAMES CREAN     22 Sep 1900     Oct 1966        94608 (Emeryville,

Alameda, CA)    (none specified)        552-05-1381     California

SS-5 Letter

Add Post-em

JOSEPH CREAN    15 Jan 1913     11 Mar 1990     94580 (San

Lorenzo, Alameda, CA)   (none specified)        552-09-1739

California      SS-5 Letter

Add Post-em

JAMES CREAN     09 Aug 1937     19 Jan 1993     (not specified)

(none specified)        552-44-4112     California      SS-5 Letter

Add Post-em

JAMES CREAN     24 Oct 1877     Jan 1963        (California)    (none

specified)      556-09-1192     California      SS-5 Letter

Add Post-em

FRANCES CREAN   11 Feb 1912     Jun 1986        89119 (Las Vegas,

Clark, NV)      (none specified)        556-34-9779     California

SS-5 Letter

Add Post-em

BETTY CREAN     05 Oct 1911     Feb 1982        94580 (San Lorenzo,

Alameda, CA)    (none specified)        556-50-7314     California

SS-5 Letter

Add Post-em

TIMOTHY CREAN   08 Jun 1909     01 Feb 1999     91107 (Pasadena,

Los Angeles, CA)        (none specified)        556-86-7610

California      SS-5 Letter

Add Post-em

MICHAEL CREAN   28 Jan 1965     18 Oct 1997     (72)    (none

specified)      563-11-4991     California      SS-5 Letter

Add Post-em

MAXINE CREAN    05 Jan 1918     Jul 1982        05091 (Woodstock,

Windsor, VT)    19067 (Morrisville, Bucks, PA)

564-12-3387     California      SS-5 Letter

Add Post-em

EDNA CREAN      24 Oct 1907     Jun 1991        (not specified) (none

specified)      564-64-8950     California      SS-5 Letter

Add Post-em

OLGA CREAN      21 Jun 1913     11 Jul 1991     95014 (Cupertino,

Santa Clara, CA)        (none specified)        568-92-6172

California      SS-5 Letter

Add Post-em

HARRY CREAN     05 Jul 1906     13 Apr 1997     93953 (Pebble

Beach, Monterey, CA)    (none specified)        569-38-9525

California      SS-5 Letter

Add Post-em

KITTY CREAN     29 Jun 1884     Sep 1979        94118 (San Francisco,

San Francisco, CA)      (none specified)        569-42-8372

California      SS-5 Letter

Add Post-em

BEATRICE CREAN  21 May 1906     Feb 1981        91030 (South

Pasadena, Los Angeles, CA)      90015 (Los Angeles, Los

Angeles, CA)    569-60-2630     California      SS-5 Letter

Add Post-em

 

 

 

Results 421 thru 425 of 425

Name    Birth   Death   Last Residence  Last Benefit    SSN

Issued  Tools

GERALDINE CREAN 10 Aug 1938     15 May 1997     95205

(Stockton, San Joaquin, CA)     (none specified)

573-58-9414     California      SS-5 Letter

Add Post-em

CORNELIUS CREAN 23 Aug 1910     17 Jul 1994     01970 (Salem,

Essex, MA)      (none specified)        706-07-0758     Long-time or

retired railroad workers        SS-5 Letter

Add Post-em

WILLIAM CREAN   28 Jan 1908     Sep 1980        11694 (Rockaway

Park, Queens, NY)       11693 (Far Rockaway, Queens, NY)

714-01-0951     Long-time or retired railroad workers   SS-5

Letter

Add Post-em

JAMES CREAN     31 May 1905     Mar 1986        44646 (Massillon,

Stark, OH)      (none specified)        714-01-1677     Long-time or

retired railroad workers        SS-5 Letter

Add Post-em

MARY CREAN      27 Aug 1905     16 Aug 1995     14218 (Buffalo,

Erie, NY)       (none specified)        714-09-5927     Long-time or

retired railroad workers        SS-5 Letter

Add Post-em

For help using the SSDI search, see Problem solving

 

 

Date:        Wed, 5 Apr 2000 09:47:12 PDT   From:        Karen McElrath <K.McElrath@Queens-Belfast.AC.UK>  | Subject:        Re: [CRYAN] social sec index cryan - ONEIL CRYAN

     To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

On Tue, 04 Apr 2000 15:06:53 PDT Michael Tobin wrote:

 

> From: Michael Tobin <tobinmi@hotmail.com>

> Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2000 15:06:53 PDT

> Subject: Re: [CRYAN] social sec index cryan - ONEIL CRYAN

> To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

> > Thank you for this information Kevin.

> > I think I may be able to claim the following entry as one

of my family.>

> >ONEIL CRYAN  02 Jan 1918     13 Dec 1984     92054

(Oceanside,

> >San Diego, CA)       (none specified)        020-07-0222

> > My g-granuncle, Matthew Cryan, emigrated to the USA in the

early 1900's. I > haven't been able to track down his family yet. My

information is that he > had 5 children - 3 boys and 2 girls. One of the boys was

named ONeil, after > Matthew's mother Mary Anne O'Neil. One of the girls became

a Nun and was > known as Sr. Emileanna.

> > I think the firstname ONeil is quite unusual, so I feel

reasonably sure that > this must be my relative.

> > I am not familar at all with the US records. Can anyone on

the list advise > how I should follow up on this. For example, is it

possible for me to lookup > the address "92054 Oceanside, San Diego, CA" to see if it

still exists and > who occupies. I will probably try writing to the address

anyway in the hope > that my letter will be read by a relative.

> > Or would the Social Security people have more info on the

family now that I > have the SSN for one of them ?

> > Thanks for any help that you can provide on how to follow

up on this. > regards> Michael

>

michael:  if you write directly to the Social Security Admin

in the US, enclose a modest fee (i think about seven US

dollars or about four pounds), and request a copy of the

original social security application, they will send it in

about 2 months or so.  it is a short document but will

include the place of birth and some other details.  i can't

recall whether it lists the parents' names.

 

i found it easiest to go into the social security index

through roots web.  search for the name, and click on the

icon in the far right column.  that will allow you to print

the form - and the web page automatically supplies the

details (e.g., name and social security number) for o.

cryan.  then you just send off the form with your payment.

 

last time, i enclosed a self-addressed stamped envelope,

addressed to my father's address in the US (with US postage

obviously).  the envelope was returned to me, unused.  in

other words, they pay for postage.  i don't know what they

do with an overseas address. to prevent further delay, you

might wish to include a stamped envelope with your ireland

address (one of those international postage stamps).

 

if you have trouble accessing the social security site

through roots web, let me know and i'll send you the form

with your ancestor's name.

 

one final note, kevin's data often included two geographic

locations in the US.  it's my understanding that one of

these places is the site from where the individual first

applied for social security (often years before his/her

death).  i believe the second site is the location of the

death.  your listing just has one placename - i'm not sure

why the second site is missing.

good luck!karen

 

From:        ljstandak@webtv.net (Lyle Staehnke)  |    Date:        Wed, 5 Apr 2000 11:01:16 -0700 (PDT)

 Subject:        [CRYAN] Ancestry.com - Individual Database Search Results     To:

        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Michael, maybe this might be helpful, this says his ssn was issued in

Massachusettes before 1951...   Lyle

http://ssdi.ancestry.com/cgi-

 

From:        ljstandak@webtv.net (Lyle Staehnke)  |    Date:        Wed, 5 Apr 2000 11:07:58 -0700 (PDT) Subject:        [CRYAN] RE:Oneil Cryan    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

MichaelSocial Security Administration

Office of Earnings Operations FOIA Workgroup 300 N. Greene Street P.O. Box 33022

Baltimore, Maryland 21290 Re: Freedom of Information Act Request Dear Freedom of Information Officer, I am writing this request under the Freedom of Information Act, 5 U.S.C.Section 552. I hereby request a copy of the SS-5, Application for SocialSecurity Card, for the following individual:

CRYAN, ONEIL 020-07-0222 Birth: 2 Jan 1918 Death: 13 Dec 1984 This individual is deceased, having been listed in the Social SecurityAdministration's Death Master File. I understand the fee for thisservice is $7.00 when the Social Security Number is provided. Includedis a check for $______ made out to the Social Security Administration tocover any administrative costs required by this request. Please respond to my request upon receipt of this initialcorrespondence. Thank you for your attention and assistance.

Sincerely, Address: Daytime Phone Number:

 From:        ljstandak@webtv.net (Lyle Staehnke)  |    Date:        Wed, 5 Apr 2000 11:11:32 -0700 (PDT)

 Subject:        [CRYAN] RE:Oneil Cryan    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Michael Tobin.........

ONEIL CRYAN

Request Information

 SSN020-07-0222

Residence:

92054  Oceanside, San Diego, CA Born2 Jan 1918

Last Benefit:

   Died13 Dec 1984

Issued: MA (Before 1951)

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and whose deaths have been reported to the SSA. The index is current to

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From:        MaryLDunn@aol.com  | Block address   Date:        Wed, 5 Apr 2000 15:09:07 EDT

 Subject:        REMINDER: Reunion Registration Period is Half Over     To:        ROSCOMMON-L@rootsweb.com

Ballykilcline in America

The Ballykilcline Society Reunion 2000

July 21-23, 2000           

Lowell, Massachusetts

Register by May 10, 2000

    The Society is an association of descendants of the Irish families

evicted from the townland of Ballykilcline, County Roscommon, in 1847

and people of related surnames (listed below) from surrounding Kilglass

Parish and people interested in Kilglass history. The Ballykilcline story is

told in Robert Scally's book, The End of Hidden Ireland.

The Reunion, Friday to Sunday, will encompass:

    • Opening Session on Friday afternoon at Middlesex Community

College. The Speaker is Msgr.    Kevin Flanagan, a Native of Kilglass Parish and a

Famine Student

    • Pub Night -- Dinner Friday Night at The Brewhouse in Lowell.

    • Saturday Speakers Program and Lunch at Middlesex Community

College

    • Saturday Evening Banquet. The Speaker is Dr. Robert J. Scally,

Author of The End of Hidden    Ireland, and Entertainment is planned.

DoubleTree Hotel, Lowell.

    • Sunday Brunch and Program at Cobblestone's Restaurant (location

depends on sufficient numbers)

    The entire Reunion Weekend program is $130.00 a person, covering

registration (speakers' presentations, entertainment, etc.) and four

meals. The registration period will be open until May 10 only. Space is

limited, so register early!

     If seats are still available for the Saturday night banquet after

May 10, reservations for attendance at the banquet ONLY will be taken until

June 15 while seats are available. Professor and Author Robert Scally will

speak there. Entertainment is planned. Banquet reservations will be $40.00 a

person for those who are NOT registered for the full Reunion Weekend program.

Reunion Weekend Guest Speakers

(in alphabetical order)

    • Ed Finn of New Jersey who collaborates with Laurie McDonough to

produce the popular Leitrim-            Roscommon Internet Web Site

    • Msgr. Kevin Flanagan of New Jersey, a native of Kilglass Parish,

County Roscommon,                  participant in  and facilitator of Reunion

'99, who is a student of The Great Famine

    • Laurie McDonough of Rhode Island who collaborates with Ed Finn to

produce the popular                 Leitrim-Roscommon Web Site

    • David McKean, archivist of St. Patrick's Parish in Lowell (or

another speaker from the local Irish            community).

    • Dr. Timothy Meagher of Washington, DC, archivist and museum

director at Catholic University             of America, co-editor of The New York

Irish, editor of From Paddy to Studs and Urban                 American

Catholicism: The Culture and Identity of the American Catholic People. He has a         

new book coming out this year about the Irish in Worcester, MA.

    • Ann Helen Riley, a Ballykilcline Society member (a Riley-Colgan

descendant) who is a visiting               lecturer at Providence

College and lectures at Rhode Island College; she is a history and             

American Studies teacher at North Providence High School

    • Dr. Robert James Scally of New York, author of The End of Hidden

Ireland, who is a history               professor at New York

University and academic director of  NYU's well known Glucksman            Ireland

House.

    • Dr. Catherine Shannon, Westfield State professor whose specialty

is Irish history; she received             the '94 Achievement Award from

the Boston Irish Immigration Center; author of  "Women          in Northern

Ireland" in the book Chattel, Servants, and Citizens.

    A Ballykilcline Reunion '99 Video of last year's visit in Kilglass

Parish, Roscommon, Ireland will be screened and be available for

purchase during the Reunion. A group photograph will be taken of Reunion-Goers

2000. And check out the Ballykilcline display in the window of the downtown

Barnes & Noble!

    Members will discuss where the tenant farmers of Ballykilcline

settled in America and how they fared there. Author Scally will describe his work

on The End of Hidden Ireland. Other speakers will focus on Kilglass' Famine

Experience at the time of the Ballykilcline evictions; Irish emigration

and identity in America; the effect of emigration on Ireland; the U.S. when

the Ballykilcline immigrants arrived here; Internet family history

research; and the Irish in Lowell.

Places to Stay

    You must make your own hotel or motel reservations; they are NOT

included in the Reunion package. In some cases, as with AAA and Senior Citizens'

discounts, early registration may ensure lower rates. Inquire about the

discounts. Local hotels are:

    • The DoubleTree Hotel in downtown Lowell. Call 1-800 -876-4586 for

reservations.

    • The Courtyard Marriott in Lowell. Call 1-800-321-2211 for

reservations.

    • The Radisson Hotel in nearby Chelmsford. Call 1-800-333-3333 for

reservations.

    • The Best Western Chelmsford Inn.  Call 1-800-528-1234 for

reservations.Chelmsford is adjacent to Lowell and the listed hotels are within 3-5

miles of downtown. The DoubleTree is connected to the main Reunion meeting

site at Middlesex Community College by a walkway across a canal.

    All Reunion events are situated within roughly an 8-block area in

downtown Lowell.

Places to See

    Visits to local museums and historical venues are not included in

the registration and are not formally a part of the program since time is

so short. But you are encouraged to fit them in around the Reunion program

as your time and interests allow. Many are well worth a visit and some of

them charge only nominal entrance fees.

    Historical and visitors' sites in Lowell include the National

Heritage Park, the American Textile Museum, the Boott Cotton Mills Museum, the

Tsongas Industrial History Center, the New England Quilt Museum, and the

Whistler House Museum of Art. Your Reunion welcome packet will contain brochures

about the city's amenities. The City of Lowell's web site is at

www.ci.lowell.ma.us/

.     Nearby, in Lexington, is the Museum of Our National Heritage. You

also will be only a short ride from historic Concord, famous for its role in

the American Revolution.

    Also, consider attending the annual Lowell Folk Festival, the

biggest in the northeast, which will be held July 28-30, a few days after the

Ballykilcline Reunion. It draws top talent, including Irish performers,

and enthusiastic crowds to city streets when all of downtown becomes a

street fest. 

 

Places for Research

    Visits to genealogy research facilities -- such as the New England

Historic Genealogical Society in Boston and the National Archives in

Waltham

-- also should be fitted in around the formal Reunion program. A

commuter train runs from the Gallagher Terminal in Lowell to North Station in

Boston, about a 45-minute ride. Waltham is about a 20-minute ride from Lowell

but check the Archives' hours before you go.

Travel Tips

      From Logan Airport, you can take a van line directly to Lowell.

Suggested van line:

      M& L Van Lines, telephone, in Massachusetts, is 1-781-938-8123.

       From elsewhere, dial 1-800-225-4846.

Or take a taxi to North Station in Boston and the commuter train from

North Station to the Gallagher Terminal in Lowell where you can get your

hotel's shuttle or a taxi to your lodgings.

TO REGISTER

    The deadline for Reunion Weekend 2000 Registration is May 10.

Payments are non-refundable.

     To register, print and fill out the form below OR clearly write out

the required information and mail it, along with your check for $130.00 per

person made out to Mary Lee Dunn, to

    Mary Lee Dunn

    The Ballykilcline Society

    9 Mansur St.

    North Chelmsford, MA  01863

The payment covers Friday dinner, Saturday lunch and dinner, and Sunday

brunch. Contact Mary Lee Dunn at MaryLDunn@aol.com or telephone her at

1-978-251-3733 if you require additional information. (Best time to

telephone: 6-9 p.m. Massachusetts time!)

SATURDAY BANQUET ONLY, AS SPACE PERMITS

    The Saturday night banquet will be held at the DoubleTree Hotel in

Lowell at 6:30 p.m. on July 22. The banquet is open to individuals not

attending the full Reunion Weekend on a space-available basis once the Reunion

Weekend registration period ends. Capacity is limited and we reserve the right

to close the Banquet-Only reservations at any time.

    Anyone who wishes to attend ONLY the Saturday banquet MUST reserve

between May 10 and June 15. The charge is $40.00 for EACH diner. Make

your check out to Mary Lee Dunn and mail it to her at the above address. The

dinner speaker is Dr. Robert James Scally, author of The End of Hidden

Ireland. Entertainment also will be provided.

    Reunion Weekend registrants will receive dinner tickets and a

program. Dinner tickets only will be mailed to those who plan to attend ONLY the

Saturday night dinner.

SURNAMES FROM BALLYKILCLINE

    The evictees' surnames are Brennan, Carlon (Carlin), Carrington,

Caveney, Cline, Colgan (Colligan), Connor, Costello, Croghan, Deffely (Deffley),

Donlan, Fallon, Farrell, Finne (Finn), Fox, Gallagher, Geenty (Ginty),

Gill, Hanly (Hanley), Hoare, Kelly, McCormack (McCormick), McDermott,

McDonnell, McGann (McGanne), Mcmanus, Madden, Magan, Maguire, Moran, Mullera,

Narry (Neary), O'Neal (ONeill), Padian, Quinn, Reynolds, Stewart (Stuart),

Winters, and Wynne.     These other names also were present in the townland: Carolan,

Clements, Cline, Coyle, Downey, Fitzmaurice, Foley, Lloyd, McDaniel, O'Beirne

(Beirne, Burns), Riley (Reilly), and Toolan.

 

Date:

        Fri, 7 Apr 2000 12:07:31 -0700 (PDT)   From:        Caoimhghin O Croidheain <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>  | Block address Subject:        [CRYAN] Roscommon Herald 1888     To:

        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

HiIf the Social Security lists are confusing to anybody

I have ordered them properly and uploaded them on my

site as EMCRY8.The following are refs which might interest somebody.

I will try at some stage to get photocopies from the

microfilm and then if somebody is willing they could

be typed onto the list as some of these Cryan-related

stories are fascinating.(others are just mentions of

various Cryans)I will also be doing 1889 as I am trying to find info

regarding the new school in Croghan [1889] Already I

have found the ad for tenders for building the school!

My gggrandfather was the Master of the school.

Regards Caoimhghinps I didnt see any Creans or other variants. If I do I

will note them.....

Roscommon Herald 1888

Jan 14

Keash Branch of the Irish National League (BINL)

Treasurer- J.M. Cryan

Feb 11

Keash Branch of the Irish National League (BINL)

Treasurer- J.M. Cryan

Feb 18

Croghan BINL

Pat Cryan elected to committee

Feb 25

Croghan BINL

Pat Cryan

Mar 3

Subcommittee in Boyle

Daniel Cryan

Patrick Cryan

James Cryan

mentioned for old rent/ new judicial rent amounts

 

Birth of illegitimate child to Anne Cryan, inmate of

Boyle Workhouse for 11 years accuses Schoolmaster Mr

E.Conway of being father - long verbatim courtcase.

 

Keash BINL

J.M. Cryan called to take chair.

Mar 24

Drumlion BINL

Luke Cryan

Apr 7

"The Coercion Act Regime in Carrick"

Summons served upon Robert Cryan, Mason.

 

Keash BINL

Obit of Andrew Cryan (buried in Templevanny)

 

Croghan BINL

Pat Cryan

Apr 14

Boyle Board of Guardians

Verdict re: Anne Cryan

failed to prove her charge - Conway showed neglect of

duty.

 

Croghan BINL

Conway resigns from Boyle Workhouse.

 

Coercion Prosecutions Extraordinary evidence

Defendant Robert Cryan RE: INL procession

Long verbatim court report

 

Apr 21

Drumlion BINL

Luke Cryan

May 5

Croghan BINL

Pat Cryan

May 19

Croghan BINL

Pat Cryan

May 26

"Release of Mr. D. Cassidy C-ON-S."

Robert Cryan

 

"The Boyle Magistrates"

Constable Cryan

Jun 9

Drumlion BINL

Luke Cryan

Jun 30

"Great Nationalist Demo at Boyle"

Keash BINL - J. Cryan

Jul 7

Croghan BINL

Pat Cryan

Aug 4

"Sad Death of Young Carrick Man"

Obit of Pat Cryan - buried in Kiltoghert

Aug 11 + 25,Sep 8,Oct 27

Croghan BINL

Pat Cryan

Aug 18

Batty Cryan of Breedogue whacked Joseph Connolly for

stealing poteen whiskey

Boyle Petty Sessions

short verbatim report

0ct 27

Corrigeenroe BINL

Bryan Cryan

Nov 10

O'Kelly testimonial subs

James Cryan

P. Cryan

Dec 22

O'Kelly testimonial subs

Drumlion BINL

Peter Cryan

Pat Cryan

 

Reply-to:         "FamSpack" < >    From:         "FamSpack" < >  |      To:         "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>

  Subject:         Re: [CRYAN] Roscommon Herald 1888    Date:         Sat, 8 Apr 2000 00:40:03 +0100

Hi,Just to say that there has been an update of the Leitrim and Roscommon

1901census. It would seem that many of the people mentioned here in the

Roscommon Herald can be identified or guessed at in the 1901 census.

I have extracted the Boyle workhouse data and passed it on but do not

knowwhether it has been made available yet.

I will be getting to grips with the second half of Croghan as soon as

thefilm arrives. So we may find your John - ggf -. Croghan townland is the

nextto extract but I am not up to date with entering so it may be a while

beforeit gets onto the list.But I will pass the juicy bits on.!!

Eve

 

Reply-to:         "FamSpack" < >    From:         "FamSpack" < >  | Block address      To:         "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>  Subject:         Re Charles Cryan   Date:         Sat, 8 Apr 2000 01:16:15 Hi Again,Keeping items separate,this is another email - as you can see.

I went to the GRO and have searched all of 1998 back to 1994 for

CharlesCRYAN but with no luck .

I then looked at all the Cr.....   variants for each year for Charles

asfirst name or Charles as second name ... there were very few and none

wereborn in 1939(done for 1998 back to 1994)

Then I looked at all the surnames beginning with CR to see if anyone

wasborn in 1939 and checked what first names occured and if the surname

couldhave been mistaken for CRYAN but still no luck (done for 1998 back to

1994)You asked about Charles for the first time in Feb 1999, the latest book

ofdeath indexes was for 1998, so it seems probable that Charles died in

Jan1999. Sadly the 1999 indexes do not appear until later in the year.

It really saddens me not to have been successful for you - I am sorry.

I will try another line of inquiry next time I go, if you can give any

otherinformation about him.I had thought that if he were an actor , at some time, he may go by a

stagename.Maybe others of the family have heard where he died.....I will

keep ontrying .Until again Eve - do keep in touch.

 

Date:        Sat, 8 Apr 2000 06:34:23 -0700 (PDT)   From:        Caoimhghin O Croidheain <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>  | Subject:        [CRYAN] Roscommon Herald 1888-1889

     To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

hiRoscommon Herald 1888-1889

For anybody who is interested:

 the following funds-

Parnell indemnity fund

National indemnity fund

O'Kelly Testimonial Fund

almost act as a local census as so many names are

listed in the Irish National League branches.

See Irish National League Notes for:

Nov 10, 17, Dec 1,8,22,-1888 Jan 19-1889

caoimhghin

 

Reply-to:         "FamSpack" < >    From:         "FamSpack" <       To:         "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>

  Subject:         Re Charles Cryan    Date:         Sun, 9 Apr 2000 12:10:30 +0100

Hi,I have been wondering what else can be done about finding Charles and

had asudden inspiration.I have not used them but I believe that the county's

electoral lists are in the GRO. It is possible that he registered for a

votein October 1998. I will look first in Bexhill and then in

London(mammothtask) but at least it is a try.(it would be nice if they were

computorisedand sortable !!) What do you think?Eve

 

 Reply-to:         "FamSpack" < >    From:         "FamSpack" < >  |     To:         "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>

  Subject:         Re: Re Charles Cryan    Date:         Tue, 11 Apr 2000 08:37:50 +0100

I received one other reply about ringing "his sister"sent about 10.34 ,

anhour earlier than this one.What did you think of the other suggestions?

Please could you ask if there was ever a stage name or a last address

or anyaddress or anyone that he mentioned that could be a link or a start in

searching.I do however envisagea difficulty in tracing Charles if he was living under an alias or the

people who reported his death did not know his real name. But then very

feware buried with out a name there are ways of tracing and nearly

everyone hasa social security document somewhere. So there must be other tracks to

follow.Until again Eve

 

From:        "Pat Cryans" <pat@pcryans.fsnet.co.uk>       To:        "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> Subject:    Re: [CRYAN] Roscommon Herald 1888-1889

   Date:        Tue, 11 Apr 2000 15:56:37 +0100

Hello Kevin,What local paper would be best to search for a death of a relation from

theKeash area between 1939-1943 .The Roscommon Herald or the Sligo Champion?

Where would the best place  be to search for said itemsIn your previous E-Mail you listed a J.M. Cryan this would be big John Cryanof Carrowcrory JP. KEASH local shop keeper.

any other list like your previous ones from the Herald would be most

helpful.regards,Patrick Cryans.

 

Date:        Fri, 14 Apr 2000 11:19:54 -0700 (PDT)   From:        Caoimhghin O Croidheain caoimhghin@yahoo.com>  | Subject:  [CRYAN] more *@&*§ lists! 1   To:  CRYAN-@rootsweb.com

Hi

Phone Search lists......

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        110 3 Meadows Ct

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        7 Bachelder St

Lowell , MA     (978)452-0442   Search Public Records

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        5623 Sherborne Knls

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        11 Wilson Ln

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        190 Eastfield Ct

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        205 Deerhurst Park Blvd

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        Phoenix , AZ    (602)371-9883   Search Public Records

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        1 Center St

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        3001 E Evesham Rd

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        40 Benedict Ave

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        79 Priscilla Ave

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        58796 County Road 9

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        58796 County Road 9

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        58796 County Road 9

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        157 Barnegat Blvd

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        3503 Nottingham Dr

College Station , TX    (979)764-1979   Search Public

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        849 Woodberry Dr

Sparks , NV     (775)356-7721   Search Public Records

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Colleen Cryan

        810 Monroe St

Annapolis , MD  (410)263-0751   Search Public Records

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        810 Monroe St

Annapolis , MD  (410)263-7674   Search Public Records

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        41 Hillcrest Ave

Washington , NJ         (908)689-5391   Search Public Records

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        7 Edgerton Ct

Darien , CT     (203)655-2670   Search Public Records

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        East Aurora , NY        (716)652-3466   Search Public

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        Las Vegas , NV  (702)341-8437   Search Public Records

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        Fm 1488

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        5550 Holly View Dr

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        556 Persons St

East Aurora , NY        (716)652-2441   Search Public Records

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        1321 N Adams Ct

Arlington , VA  (703)524-6637   Search Public Records

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        12360 Rosecrans Ave

Norwalk , CA    (562)921-6511   Search Public Records

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        16305 Summershade Dr

La Mirada , CA  (562)943-3392   Search Public Records

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        12518 S Meade Ave

Palos Heights , IL      (708)385-6440   Search Public

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        511 Kintop Rd

Glen Burnie , MD        (410)761-3463   Search Public Records

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        40 Isabella St

Stoneham , MA   (781)662-3415   Search Public Records

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        8787 Southside Blvd

Jacksonville , FL       (904)519-8762   Search Public

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        Medical Lake , WA       (509)299-9087   Search Public

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        3516 Stettinius Ave

Cincinnati , OH         (513)871-2819   Search Public Records

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        41 Park St

Holland , NY    (716)537-9023   Search Public Records

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        6483 Soco Rd

Maggie Valley , NC      (828)926-2661   Search Public

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        59 Fairview St

Roslindale , MA         (617)327-0986   Search Public Records

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        63 River St

South Yarmouth , MA     (508)760-4513   Search Public

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        7 Eliot Pl

Jamaica Plain , MA      (617)524-5158   Search Public

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        176 Middlesex Ave

Medford , MA    (781)391-1093   Search Public Records

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        40 Endwell Ln

Willingboro , NJ        (609)877-8477   Search Public Records

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        3102 E Indian School Rd

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        Tacoma , WA     (253)565-4721   Search Public Records

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        4609 W 87th

Hometown , IL   (708)857-7176   Search Public Records

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        133 Fay Rd

Woods Hole , MA         (508)548-3380   Search Public Records

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        Juneau , AK     (907)780-6351   Search Public Records

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        49 Yorktown Cir

Trumbull , CT   (203)268-0137   Search Public Records

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        713 Spruce St

Trenton , NJ    (609)396-5442   Search Public Records

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        15715 S Sunset Ridge Ct

Orland Park , IL        (708)403-6640   Search Public Records

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        Po Box 2247

Bethel , AK     (907)543-3071   Search Public Records

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        1995 Delaware Ave

Buffalo , NY    (716)873-2321   Search Public Records

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        2 Spring Hill Dr

Clementon , NJ  (856)784-9061   Search Public Records

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        3186 Mathieson Dr Ne

Atlanta , GA    (404)816-5272   Search Public Records

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        1750 Royal Palm Way

Boca Raton , FL         (561)395-8400   Search Public Records

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G Cryan

        42 Westminster St

Westerly , RI   (401)596-2394   Search Public Records

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        25 Osborne Ave

Clementon , NJ  (856)783-1451   Search Public Records

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        10355 W 18th Pl

Denver , CO     (303)239-8755   Search Public Records

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        41 Hidden Harbor Dr

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        17 Long Hill Rd

Georgetown , MA         (978)352-7563   Search Public Records

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        1148 1st St Nw

Watertown , SD  (605)886-7506   Search Public Records

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        1693 Sabal Palm Dr

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        28 Paugus Pk

Laconia , NH    (603)524-2487   Search Public Records

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Hillary Cryan

        17 Aberdeen St

Boston , MA     (617)572-3658   Search Public Records

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Ian Cryan

        Juneau , AK     (907)780-4369   Search Public Records

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Irene Cryan

        2212 Front St

Easton , PA     (610)258-6045   Search Public Records

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J Cryan

        Reno , NV       (775)677-2166   Search Public Records

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        Escondido , CA  (760)746-0112   Search Public Records

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        San Francisco , CA      (415)346-5001   Search Public

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        989 James St

Syracuse , NY   (315)472-1443   Search Public Records

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        Dana Point , CA         (949)240-2164   Search Public Records

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        10 Lewis Ln

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        12341 W Tigerseye Dr

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Newton , MA     (617)965-0821   Search Public Records

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        Reno , NV       (775)677-7076   Search Public Records

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        540 Mill Valley Est

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        10 Amherst Ct

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        1322 Napfle Ave

Philadelphia , PA       (215)725-5022   Search Public

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        14 Jaclyn Rae Dr

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        15 Greenport St

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        36 Marion Walk

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        40 Sullivan Dr

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        5 Carver Ave

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        53 Hillando Dr

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        555 Purdy Ln

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        673 2nd Street Pike

Southampton , PA        (215)364-1965   Search Public Records

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        702 E Pine Ave

El Segundo , CA         (310)322-3793   Search Public Records

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        76 Prescott St

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        7739 Gillcrest Rd

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        828 Victoria Dr

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        18 Indian Rock Rd

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        1030 Us Highway 1

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        40 Chestnut Ridgeway

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        263 Lighthouse Ave

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        40 S Main St

Middleton , MA  (978)774-4962   Search Public Records

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        10809 Massasoit Ave

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Holiday , FL    (727)937-7133   Search Public Records

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Stoneham , MA   (781)438-2391   Search Public Records

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        12076 Highway A1a Alt

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        47 Walnut Ridge Rd

Stow , MA       (978)461-9388   Search Public Records

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        70 Delmar Ave

Buffalo , NY    (716)633-2206   Search Public Records

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Quincy , MA     (617)472-0433   Search Public Records

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        124 W Garfield St

Seattle , WA    (206)281-8943   Search Public Records

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        70 Beacon St

Bridgeport , CT         (203)579-7691   Search Public Records

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        607 Barbara Rd

Landing , NJ    (973)398-8594   Search Public Records

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        216 Virginia Manor Dr

Pittsburgh , PA         (412)784-9069   Search Public Records

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        9 Higbie Dr

East Hartford , CT      (860)290-8256   Search Public

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        18027 Strack Dr

Spring , TX     (281)376-8988   Search Public Records

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        6535 Parkside Dr

Tinley Park , IL        (708)444-2192   Search Public Records

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        6535 Parkside Dr

Tinley Park , IL        (708)614-8378   Search Public Records

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        1300 Eagle Lake Rd

Sealy , TX      (979)885-4621   Search Public Records

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        1456 W 74th St

Cleveland , OH  (216)961-9388   Search Public Records

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        336 Chesterfield Ave

Nashville , TN  (865)463-9795   Search Public Records

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Maumee , OH     (419)893-4770   Search Public Records

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        209 Lilac Dr

Kernersville , NC       (336)996-5467   Search Public

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Leonard Cryan

        24 Turntable Jct

Flemington , NJ         (908)284-9225   Search Public Records

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        Jackson Valley Rd

Washington , NJ         (908)689-6717   Search Public Records

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        San Francisco , CA      (415)661-5658   Search Public

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        Paradise , CA   (530)877-1211   Search Public Records

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        12 Fairlane Ter

Winchester , MA         (781)721-0369   Search Public Records

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        4571 River Pkwy

Atlanta , GA    (770)953-6891   Search Public Records

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        466 Amsterdam Ave

New York , NY   (212)724-8221   Search Public Records

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        4415 Siegel St

Houston , TX    (713)694-5877   Search Public Records

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        50 Rock Rd

Hawthorne , NJ  (973)423-1620   Search Public Records

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        884 Neipsic Rd

Glastonbury , CT        (860)659-1581   Search Public Records

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        140 Glen Ave

Millburn , NJ   (973)258-1326   Search Public Records

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        37 Benchmark

Pittsboro , NC  (919)932-5563   Search Public Records

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        8 Hayden Rd

Saugus , MA     (781)233-5853   Search Public Records

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        1337 Columbine St

Amarillo , TX   (806)383-0767   Search Public Records

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        3038 Lake Shore Dr

Deerfield Beach , FL    (954)574-0440   Search Public

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        85 Golden Ave

Medford , MA    (781)391-7684   Search Public Records

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        18 Claremont Ave

Wallingford , CT        (203)949-9985   Search Public Records

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        16 Trenton St

Charlestown , MA        (617)242-8395   Search Public Records

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        10871 Partridge Rd

Holland , NY    (716)537-2653   Search Public Records

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        10871 Partridge Rd

Holland , NY    (716)537-9892   Search Public Records

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        16 Indian Rock Rd

Haverhill , MA  (978)521-5011   Search Public Records

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Michael Cryan

        505 N Lake Shore Dr

Chicago , IL    (312)527-5179   Search Public Records

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        56 Lake Dr

Plymouth , MA   (508)759-0405   Search Public Records

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        813 County Rd

Pocasset , MA   (508)563-1273   Search Public Records

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        813 County Rd

Pocasset , MA   (508)563-5122   Search Public Records

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        710 Brookwoods Trce Ne

Atlanta , GA    (404)531-9247   Search Public Records

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        710 Brookwoods Trce Ne

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Crean

        65 Alder Rd

South Kingstown , RI    (401)364-7956   Search Public

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        Plainview , NY  (516)349-7848   Search Public Records

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        8 N Sacramento Ave

Ventnor City , NJ       (609)822-6146   Search Public

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        75 Mccormick Ter

Stoughton , MA  (781)297-7754   Search Public Records

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        638 N Geyer Rd

Saint Louis , MO        (314)822-1764   Search Public Records

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        5 Scrimgeour Rd

Worcester , MA  (508)852-2294   Search Public Records

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        1740 Roland Ave

Wantagh , NY    (516)826-4990   Search Public Records

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        179 Kilburn Rd

Garden City , NY        (212)387-0817   Search Public Records

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        5221 Vernon Lake Dr

Atlanta , GA    (770)394-1269   Search Public Records

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        184 Karen Lee Rd

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        26 Tunxis Rd

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        Halsey Ln

Remsenburg , NY         (631)325-0664   Search Public Records

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Mauldin , SC    (864)234-5727   Search Public Records

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        478 Prospect Ave

Brooklyn , NY   (718)279-7816   Search Public Records

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        1352 Sheffield Glen Way Ne

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        1506 Belvedere Ave Se

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1. Martain CRYAN -

International Genealogical Index/AS

Gender: M Birth: 13 Jul 1852 <Rawul, Pindee>, West

Bengal, India

2. Alfred Joseph CRINE - International Genealogical

Index/BI

Gender: M Christening: 11 Jun 1837 Saint George In The

East, Stepney, London, England

3. Alse CRINE - International Genealogical Index/BI

Gender: F Marriage: 14 Sep 1595 Barnardiston, Suffolk,

England

4. Andrew CRYNE - International Genealogical Index/BI

Gender: M Birth: 20 Aug 1865 Tradeston, Glasgow,

Lanark, Scotland

5. Andrew CRYAN - International Genealogical Index/BI

Gender: M Birth: 28 Oct 1865 0102, Boyle, Roscommon,

Ireland

6. Anne CRINE - International Genealogical Index/BI

Gender: F Birth: 11 Jul 1833 Sheppards Barton Meeting

House-Baptist, Frome, Somerset, England

7. Ann Elizh. CRINE - International Genealogical

Index/BI

Gender: F Christening: 9 Oct 1839 Saint George In The

East, Stepney, London, England

8. Anna Magdalene CRYAN - International Genealogical

Index/BI

Gender: F Christening: 20 Sep 1840 Mount St. Marie

Catholic, Bradford, Yorkshire, England

9. Anne CRINE - International Genealogical Index/BI

Gender: F Christening: 30 Dec 1638 Kirkham,

Lancashire, England

10. Annam CRYAN - International Genealogical Index/BI

Gender: F Christening: 9 Oct 1841 Roman Catholic,

Kilbride Parish, Roscommon, Ireland

11. Anna CRYNE - International Genealogical Index/BI

Gender: F Christening: 8 Jul 1845 Roman Catholic,

Drumcliff And Magherow, Sligo, Ireland

12. Anne CRYAN - International Genealogical Index/BI

Gender: F Birth: 27 Jun 1866 0090, Ballinameen,

Roscommon, Ireland

13. Anna CRYAN - International Genealogical Index/BI

Gender: F Christening: 8 Jul 1866 Roman Catholic,

Breedogue And Ballinameen, Roscommon, Ireland

14. Anne CRYAN - International Genealogical Index/BI

Gender: F Birth: 8 Jul 1866 0096, Boyle With

Ballinafad, Roscommon, Ireland

15. Anne CRYAN - International Genealogical Index/BI

Gender: F Birth: 2 Sep 1865 0310, Ballymote, Sligo,

Ireland

16. Ann CRINE - International Genealogical Index/BI

Gender: F Birth: 6 Aug 1857 Auchinleck, Ayr, Scotland

17. Anne CRYAN - International Genealogical Index/BI

Gender: F Birth: 22 May 1866 0148, Castleplunket,

Roscommon, Ireland

18. Ann Allen CRYNN - International Genealogical

Index/BI

Gender: F Christening: 30 Jan 1768 East Newlyn,

Cornwall, England

19. Anne CRINE - International Genealogical Index/BI

Gender: F Marriage: 1 Jan 1715 Tisbury, Wiltshire,

England

20. Ann CRYAN - International Genealogical Index/BI

Gender: F Marriage: 2 Oct 1861 Irvine, Ayr, Scotland

21. Ann CRYAN - International Genealogical Index/BI

Gender: F Marriage: 13 Oct 1850 Glasgow, Lanark,

Scotland

22. Annam CRYAN - International Genealogical Index/BI

Gender: F Marriage: 17 Feb 1853 Roman Catholic,

Ardcarn And Tuamna, Roscommon, Ireland

23. Ann CRINE - International Genealogical Index/BI

Gender: F Marriage: 9 Sep 1731 Childrey, Berkshire,

England

24. Bartholomew CRYAN - International Genealogical

Index/BI

Gender: M Marriage: 1 Aug 1865 Edinburgh Parish,

Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland

25. Beesy CRYAN - International Genealogical Index/BI

Gender: F Birth: 28 May 1865 0337, Ballymote, Sligo,

Ireland

26. Bernardus CRYAN - International Genealogical

Index/BI

Gender: M Christening: 16 Dec 1876 Roman Catholic,

Breedogue And Ballinameen, Roscommon, Ireland

27. 1) Lydia CRANE - International Genealogical

Index/NA

Gender: F Marriage: Abt. 1806 <Newark>, Essex, New

Jersey

28. 1. Clarissa CRANE - International Genealogical

Index/NA

Gender: F Marriage: Nov 1821 <Waltham>, Middlesex,

Massachusetts

29. (1) George Francis CRANE - International

Genealogical Index/NA

Gender: M Marriage: 3 Mar 1889 Richfield, Sevier, Utah

30. 2. Mehitable CRANE - International Genealogical

Index/NA

Gender: F Marriage: 2 Apr 1730 <Berkley>, Bristol,

Massachusetts

31. 2) Martha CRANE - International Genealogical

Index/NA

Gender: F Marriage: 15 Jan 1783 <Westfield>, Union,

New Jersey

32. 3 Lucy CRENE - International Genealogical Index/NA

Gender: F Marriage: 1922 Buffalo, Leon, Texas

33. 61 sham CRANE - International Genealogical

Index/NA

Gender: M Birth: 13 Mar 1718 Windham, Windham,

Connecticut

34. A. F. CRANE - International Genealogical Index/NA

Gender: M Birth: Abt. 1834 <Vicksburg>, Warren,

Mississippi

35. A. CRANE - International Genealogical Index/NA

Gender: M Birth: 1834 New Jersey

36. A. D. W. CRANE - International Genealogical

Index/NA

Gender: M Birth: 1832 Burlington, Otsego, New York

37. Mr. A.D.W. CRANE - International Genealogical

Index/NA

Gender: M Birth: 1831 Coryville, Mckean, Pennsylvania

38. A. D. W. CRANE - International Genealogical

Index/NA

Gender: M Birth: Abt. 1831 Corry, Erie, Pennsylvania

39. A.M. <CRANE> - International Genealogical Index/NA

Gender: < Birth: Abt. 1811 Of, Oakland, Alameda,

California

40. A.M. CRANE - International Genealogical Index/NA

Gender: M Birth: Abt. 1811 Of, Oakland, Alameda,

California

41. A. Lanson CRANE - International Genealogical

Index/NA

Gender: M Birth: Abt. 1808 Mentz Twp, Cayuga, New York

42. A. Lenson CRANE - International Genealogical

Index/NA

Gender: M Birth: 1807 Morristown, Morris, New Jersey

43. A.Lanson CRANE - International Genealogical

Index/NA

Gender: M Birth: 1807 Morristown, Morris, New Jersey

44. A. Lanson CRANE - International Genealogical

Index/NA

Gender: M Birth: Abt. 1809 Mentz, Cayuga, New York

45. A. F. CRANE - International Genealogical Index/NA

Gender: M Birth: 1859 <>, Fountain Co, Indiana

46. A. M. Gibson CRANE - International Genealogical

Index/NA

Gender: M Birth: 1841 Caldwell, Essex, New Jersey

47. A. M. Gibson CRANE - International Genealogical

Index/NA

Gender: M Birth: 1841 Caldwell, Essex, New Jersey

48. A. M. GIBSON CRANE - International Genealogical

Index/NA

Gender: M Birth: 1841 Caldwell, Essex, New Jersey

49. A. F. CRANE - International Genealogical Index/NA

Gender: M Birth: 1856 Ansonia, New Haven, Connecticut

50. A. F. CRANE - International Genealogical Index/NA

Gender: M Birth: 1856 Ansonia, New Haven, Connecticut

51. A. F. CRANE - International Genealogical Index/NA

Gender: M Birth: 1856 Ansonia, New Haven, Connecticut

52. James CRYAN - International Genealogical Index/SP

Gender: M Birth: 28 Apr 1858 Horton District,

Tasmania, Australia

53. 3 Gt. Gd. Father CRANE - International

Genealogical Index/MI

Gender: M Misc: ,

54. 3 Gt. Gd. Mother CRANE - International

Genealogical Index/MI

Gender: F Misc: ,

55. ? CRANE - International Genealogical Index/MI

Gender: F Misc: ,

56. A. Jep CRANE - International Genealogical Index/MI

Gender: M Birth: 14 Oct 1852 <Ga, Gwinnett Co.>,

Duncan Creek, Congregational

57. Aaron N. CRANE - International Genealogical

Index/MI

Gender: M Birth: 12 Nov 1813 ,

58. Aaron CRANE - International Genealogical Index/MI

Gender: M Birth: Abt. 1782 Of Caldwell,

59. Aaron CRANE - International Genealogical Index/MI

Gender: M Birth: Abt. 1782 Of Caldwell, ?,

60. Abby R. CRANE - International Genealogical

Index/MI

Gender: F Birth: Abt. 1803 ,

61. Abby R. CRANE - International Genealogical

Index/MI

Gender: F Birth: Abt. 1803 ,

62. Abigail CRANE - International Genealogical

Index/MI

Gender: F Birth: 15 Feb 1700 ,

63. Abigail CRANE - International Genealogical

Index/MI

Gender: F Birth: 28 May 1752 ,

64. Abigail CRANE - International Genealogical

Index/MI

Gender: F Birth: Abt. 1766 West Bloomfield, ?,

65. Abigail CRANE - International Genealogical

Index/MI

Gender: F Birth: 16 Apr 1808 ,

66. Abigail K. CRANE - International Genealogical

Index/MI

Gender: F Birth: 1810 Pb.n.j.,

67. Abigail CRANE - International Genealogical

Index/MI

Gender: F Birth: 26 Aug 1822 Pb N. J.,

68. Abner CRAIN - International Genealogical Index/MI

Gender: M Birth: Abt. 1799 Of ?,

69. Abraham CRANE - International Genealogical

Index/MI

Gender: M Birth: 25 Dec 1774 ,

70. Ada CRANE - International Genealogical Index/MI

Gender: F Birth: 7 Jun 1863 ,

71. Adah CRANE - International Genealogical Index/MI

Gender: F Misc: ,

72. Ada Irena CRANE - International Genealogical

Index/MI

Gender: F Death: 5 Aug 1850 ,

73. Addison Moses CRANE - International Genealogical

Index/MI

Gender: M Birth: 2 Jul 1814 ,

74. Adaline CRANE - International Genealogical

Index/MI

Gender: F Birth: 24 Nov 1827 ,

75. Adaline CRANE - International Genealogical

Index/MI

Gender: F Birth: 24 Nov 1827 ,

76. Adaline CRANE - International Genealogical

Index/MI

Gender: F Birth: 10 Apr 1802 ?,

77. Adonyah CRANE - International Genealogical

Index/MI

Gender: M Misc: ,

78. (1St)James M. CRANE - Ancestral File

Gender: M Birth/Christening: < 1929 <, Cobb, Georgia>

79. (Dau) CRANE - Ancestral File

Gender: F Birth/Christening: 12 Mar 1945 Oakley,

Cassia, Id

80. (Infant) CRANE - Ancestral File

Gender: U Birth/Christening: < 1811 <Goshen, Ny Of

Consumption>

81. (Infant) CRAIN - Ancestral File

Gender: M Birth/Christening: 15 Jan 1900 Lafayette, ,

Ms

82. (Not Named) CRANE - Ancestral File

Gender: M Birth/Christening: 1804 Little Sandusky, ,

Oh

83. (Twin) CRANE - Ancestral File

Gender: M Birth/Christening: 1877 , South Windsor,

Hartford, Connecticut

84. 8 More? CRANE - Ancestral File

Gender: U Birth/Christening: < 1778 <Freetown,

Bristol, Mass>

85. A Dolson CRANE - Ancestral File

Gender: M Birth/Christening: < 1877 <Brant, Saginaw,

Mi>

86. A. F. CRANE - Ancestral File

Gender: M Birth/Christening: Abt 1834

87. A. Lanson CRANE - Ancestral File

Gender: M Birth/Christening: < 1809 <Mentz, Cayuga,

New York>

88. A. M. Gibson CRANE - Ancestral File

Gender: U Birth/Christening: 1841

89. A. F. CRANE - Ancestral File

Gender: U Birth/Christening: < 1856 <Ansonia, ,

Connecticut>

90. A. G. CHRANE - Ancestral File

Gender: M Birth/Christening: 7 Mar 1849 Keytesville,

Crawford, Missouri

91. A. W. CRANE - Ancestral File

Gender: M Birth/Christening: < 1820 <, , Virginia>

92. Aaron L. CRAIN - Ancestral File

Gender: M Birth/Christening: 3 Oct 1874 <, Columbia,

Ar>

93. Aaron CRANE - Ancestral File

Gender: M Birth/Christening: 24 Mar 1781 <Stafford, ,

Connecticut>

94. Aaron W. CRANE - Ancestral File

Gender: M Birth/Christening: 12 Nov 1813 Barkhamsted,

, Connecticut

95. Aaron D. CRANE - Ancestral File

Gender: M Birth/Christening: < 1823 <West Orange, ,

New Jersey>

96. Aaron D. CRANE - Ancestral File

Gender: M Birth/Christening: < 1839

97. Aaron CRANE - Ancestral File

Gender: M Birth/Christening: < 1761 <Newark, , New

Jersey>

98. Aaron CRANE - Ancestral File

Gender: M Birth/Christening: 23 Mar 1781

<Killingworth, , Connecticut>

99. Aaron CRANE - Ancestral File

Gender: M Birth/Christening: 1777 Of Killingworth,

Middlesex, Connecticut

100. Aaron CRANE - Ancestral File

Gender: M Birth/Christening: 8 May 1756 <, Scantic

Parish, Connecticut>

101. Aaron Root CRAINE - Ancestral File

Gender: M Birth/Christening: 14 May 1841 Evans Mills,

Jefferson, Ny

102. Aaron CRAIN - Ancestral File

Gender: M Birth/Christening: 1755 , King William,

Virginia

103. Clara Gertrude CRANE - Pedigree Resource File

Gender: F Birth/Christening: 1879 (reg) Wollongong,

NSW

104. Donald McKay Crane - Pedigree Resource File

Gender: M Birth/Christening: 19 Oct 1921 Adelaide.

South Australia. Australia.

105. Florence A. CRANE - Pedigree Resource File

Gender: F Birth/Christening: 1882 (reg) Woonona, NSW

106. Frederick Joseph CRANNIS - Pedigree Resource File

Gender: M Birth/Christening: 23 Dec 1893 Marrickville,

NSW

107. James CRANE - Pedigree Resource File

Gender: M Birth/Christening: 1878 (reg) Wollongong,

NSW

108. John W. CRANE - Pedigree Resource File

Gender: M Birth/Christening: 1884 (reg) Woonona, NSW

109. Kathleen Miller CRANE - Pedigree Resource File

Gender: F Birth/Christening: 1894 (reg) Taree, NSW

110. Lancelot A. CRANE - Pedigree Resource File

Gender: M Birth/Christening: 1887 (reg) Woonona, NSW

111. Norman Francis Alfred Henry Crane - Pedigree

Resource File

Gender: M Birth/Christening: 1898 Sydney, New South

Wales, Australia

112. Sarah CRANE - Pedigree Resource File

Gender: F Birth/Christening: 1883 (reg) Woonona, NSW

113. Lucy Crain - Pedigree Resource File

Gender: F Birth/Christening: 22 Mar 1805 Canada

114. Patricia Crane - Pedigree Resource File

Gender: F Birth/Christening: 18 Jun 1936 Coleman, AB,

Canada

115. William CRAINE - Pedigree Resource File

Gender: M Birth/Christening: 22 Mar 1820 Isle Of Man

116. David Crane - Pedigree Resource File

Gender: M Birth/Christening: 1721 New Jersey

117. Jedediah Crane - Pedigree Resource File

Gender: M Birth/Christening: 1716 New Jersey

118. John R Crane - Pedigree Resource File

Gender: M Birth/Christening: 1749 New Jersey

119. Joseph Crane - Pedigree Resource File

Gender: M Birth/Christening: 1732 New Jersey

120. Rebecca Crane - Pedigree Resource File

Gender: F Birth/Christening: 6 Sep 1707 New Jersey

121. Rebecca Crane - Pedigree Resource File

Gender: F Birth/Christening: 6 Sep 1707 New Jersey

122. Sarah Crane - Pedigree Resource File

Gender: F Birth/Christening: 1734 New Jersey

123. Agnes CRANE - Pedigree Resource File

Gender: F Birth/Christening: abt 1438

Stonham,Suffolk,ENGLAND

124. Agnes CRANE - Pedigree Resource File

Gender: F Birth/Christening: abt 1552

of,Chilton,Suffolk,England

125. Agnes CRANE - Pedigree Resource File

Gender: F Birth/Christening: abt 1535

of,Chilton,Suffolk,England

126. Anne CRANE - Pedigree Resource File

Gender: F Birth/Christening: abt 1630

of,Chilton,Suffolk,England

127. Benjamin Crane - Pedigree Resource File

Gender: M Birth/Christening: 1630/39 of Sheffield,

Yorkshire, England

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Date:        Fri, 14 Apr 2000 11:47:44 -0700 (PDT)   From:        Caoimhghin O Croidheain <caoimhghin@yahoo.com Subject:        [CRYAN] mormon list 2     To:  CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

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1. ..._ CREANE -

International Genealogical Index/BI

Gender: F Christening: 17 May 1663 Poulton Le Fylde,

Lancashire, England

2. Ada CREHAN - International Genealogical Index/BI

Gender: F Birth: 22 Apr 1860 Limerick, Limerick,

Ireland

3. Ada CREHAN - International Genealogical Index/BI

Gender: F Birth: 1860 Limerick, Ireland

4. ADA CREHAN - International Genealogical Index/BI

Gender: F Birth: 1860 Limerick, Limerick, Ireland

5. Ada CREHAN - International Genealogical Index/BI

Gender: F Birth: 1860 Limerick, Limerick, Ireland

6. Agness CREEN - International Genealogical Index/BI

Gender: F Birth: 12 Oct 1866 0216, Loughbrickland,

Down, Ireland

7. Agnes CREINE - International Genealogical Index/BI

Gender: F Marriage: 2 Feb 1623 Hexham, Northumberland,

England

8. Agnes CREINE - International Genealogical Index/BI

Gender: F Birth: Abt. 1603 Of Hexham, Northumberland,

England

9. Agnes CREINE - International Genealogical Index/BI

Gender: F Misc: 2 Feb 1623 Hexham, Northumberland,

England

10. Agnes CREINE - International Genealogical Index/BI

Gender: F Marriage: 2 Feb 1623 Hexham, Northumberland,

England

11. Agnes CREINE - International Genealogical Index/BI

Gender: F Marriage: 2 Feb 1623 Hexham, Northumberland,

England

12. AGNES CRENE - International Genealogical Index/BI

Gender: F Birth: 1540 Suffolk, England

13. AGNES CRENE - International Genealogical Index/BI

Gender: F Marriage: 1559 Suffolk, England

14. AGNES CRENE - International Genealogical Index/BI

Gender: F Marriage: 1559 Suffolk, England

15. Alexander CREIN - International Genealogical

Index/BI

Gender: M Christening: 24 Jul 1859 Holy Trinity,

Salford, Lancashire, England

16. Alice CREAN - International Genealogical Index/BI

Gender: F Birth: 1 Jun 1866 0334, Belfast, Antrim,

Ireland

17. Alice CREEN - International Genealogical Index/BI

Gender: F Christening: Mar 1673 Andreas, Isle Of Man,

England

18. Alice CRENE - International Genealogical Index/BI

Gender: F Christening: 2 Dec 1662 Bispham With

Norbreck, Lancashire, England

19. Alice CREAN - International Genealogical Index/BI

Gender: F Marriage: 19 Jan 1773 Cathedral, Manchester,

Lancashire, England

20. Andw. CREAN - International Genealogical Index/BI

Gender: M Christening: 25 Apr 1823 St. Nicholas,

Galway, Galway, Ireland

21. Anna Teriza CREAN - International Genealogical

Index/BI

Gender: F Birth: 30 Jun 1864 0520, Dublin, Dublin,

Ireland

22. Anna CREENE - International Genealogical Index/BI

Gender: F Christening: 4 Jan 1642 Saint Martin In The

Fields, Westminster, London, England

23. Anne CREANE - International Genealogical Index/BI

Gender: F Birth: 15 Nov 1865 0227, Castleconor, Sligo,

Ireland

24. Hannah CREEN - International Genealogical Index/BI

Gender: F Christening: 23 Jul 1866 Saint Peter,

Liverpool, Lancashire, England

25. Anne CREEN - International Genealogical Index/BI

Gender: F Christening: 28 Jan 1718 Malew, Isle Of Man,

England

26. Antoine Louis CREAN - International Genealogical

Index/CE

Gender: M Christening: 5 Feb 1736

Saint-Germain-En-Laye, Seine-Et-Oise, France

27. Antoine Louis CREAN - International Genealogical

Index/CE

Gender: M Christening: 5 Feb 1736

Saint-Germain-En-Laye, Seine-Et-Oise, France

28. Christophe CREAN - International Genealogical

Index/CE

Gender: M Marriage: 29 Sep 1698 Saint-Germain-En-Laye,

Seine-Et-Oise, France

29. Louis Denis CREAN - International Genealogical

Index/CE

Gender: M Christening: 17 Oct 1734

Saint-Germain-En-Laye, Seine-Et-Oise, France

30. Louis CREAN - International Genealogical Index/CE

Gender: M Christening: 23 Oct 1741

Saint-Germain-En-Laye, Seine-Et-Oise, France

31. Louis Denis CREAN - International Genealogical

Index/CE

Gender: M Christening: 17 Oct 1734

Saint-Germain-En-Laye, Seine-Et-Oise, France

32. Louis CREAN - International Genealogical Index/CE

Gender: M Christening: 23 Oct 1741

Saint-Germain-En-Laye, Seine-Et-Oise, France

33. Louise Francoise CREAN - International

Genealogical Index/CE

Gender: F Christening: 20 Jul 1701

Saint-Germain-En-Laye, Seine-Et-Oise, France

34. Louise Francoise CREAN - International

Genealogical Index/CE

Gender: F Christening: 20 Jul 1701

Saint-Germain-En-Laye, Seine-Et-Oise, France

35. Louise Francoise CREAN - International

Genealogical Index/CE

Gender: F Marriage: 10 Nov 1727 Saint-Germain-En-Laye,

Seine-Et-Oise, France

36. Louise Francoise CREAN - International

Genealogical Index/CE

Gender: F Marriage: 10 Nov 1727 Saint-Germain-En-Laye,

Seine-Et-Oise, France

37. Marie Madeleine CREAN - International Genealogical

Index/CE

Gender: F Christening: 20 Jan 1733

Saint-Germain-En-Laye, Seine-Et-Oise, France

38. Marie Henriette CREAN - International Genealogical

Index/CE

Gender: F Christening: 29 May 1738

Saint-Germain-En-Laye, Seine-Et-Oise, France

39. Marie Madeleine CREAN - International Genealogical

Index/CE

Gender: F Christening: 25 Dec 1739

Saint-Germain-En-Laye, Seine-Et-Oise, France

40. Marie Madeleine CREAN - International Genealogical

Index/CE

Gender: F Christening: 20 Jan 1733

Saint-Germain-En-Laye, Seine-Et-Oise, France

41. Marie Henriette CREAN - International Genealogical

Index/CE

Gender: F Christening: 29 May 1738

Saint-Germain-En-Laye, Seine-Et-Oise, France

42. Marie Madeleine CREAN - International Genealogical

Index/CE

Gender: F Christening: 25 Dec 1739

Saint-Germain-En-Laye, Seine-Et-Oise, France

43. Marie CREAN - International Genealogical Index/CE

Gender: F Christening: 21 May 1698

Saint-Germain-En-Laye, Seine-Et-Oise, France

44. Marie CREAN - International Genealogical Index/CE

Gender: F Christening: 21 May 1698

Saint-Germain-En-Laye, Seine-Et-Oise, France

45. Marie Madeleine CREAN - International Genealogical

Index/CE

Gender: F Marriage: 19 Jan 1771 Saint-Germain-En-Laye,

Seine-Et-Oise, France

46. Marie Madeleine CREAN - International Genealogical

Index/CE

Gender: F Marriage: 19 Jan 1771 Saint-Germain-En-Laye,

Seine-Et-Oise, France

47. Martje Pietersdr CREAN - International

Genealogical Index/CE

Gender: F Marriage: Abt. 1708 Woubrugge, Zuid Holland,

Netherlands

48. Martje Pietersdr CREAN - International

Genealogical Index/CE

Gender: F Birth: Abt. 1686 Woubrugge, Z Holl,

Netherlands

49. 1) Lydia CRANE - International Genealogical

Index/NA

Gender: F Marriage: Abt. 1806 <Newark>, Essex, New

Jersey

50. 1. Clarissa CRANE - International Genealogical

Index/NA

Gender: F Marriage: Nov 1821 <Waltham>, Middlesex,

Massachusetts

51. (1) George Francis CRANE - International

Genealogical Index/NA

Gender: M Marriage: 3 Mar 1889 Richfield, Sevier, Utah

52. 2. Mehitable CRANE - International Genealogical

Index/NA

Gender: F Marriage: 2 Apr 1730 <Berkley>, Bristol,

Massachusetts

53. 2) Martha CRANE - International Genealogical

Index/NA

Gender: F Marriage: 15 Jan 1783 <Westfield>, Union,

New Jersey

54. 3 Lucy CRENE - International Genealogical Index/NA

Gender: F Marriage: 1922 Buffalo, Leon, Texas

55. 61 sham CRANE - International Genealogical

Index/NA

Gender: M Birth: 13 Mar 1718 Windham, Windham,

Connecticut

56. A. F. CRANE - International Genealogical Index/NA

Gender: M Birth: Abt. 1834 <Vicksburg>, Warren,

Mississippi

57. A. CRANE - International Genealogical Index/NA

Gender: M Birth: 1834 New Jersey

58. A. D. W. CRANE - International Genealogical

Index/NA

Gender: M Birth: 1832 Burlington, Otsego, New York

59. Mr. A.D.W. CRANE - International Genealogical

Index/NA

Gender: M Birth: 1831 Coryville, Mckean, Pennsylvania

60. A. D. W. CRANE - International Genealogical

Index/NA

Gender: M Birth: Abt. 1831 Corry, Erie, Pennsylvania

61. A.M. <CRANE> - International Genealogical Index/NA

Gender: < Birth: Abt. 1811 Of, Oakland, Alameda,

California

62. A.M. CRANE - International Genealogical Index/NA

Gender: M Birth: Abt. 1811 Of, Oakland, Alameda,

California

63. A. Lanson CRANE - International Genealogical

Index/NA

Gender: M Birth: Abt. 1808 Mentz Twp, Cayuga, New York

64. A. Lenson CRANE - International Genealogical

Index/NA

Gender: M Birth: 1807 Morristown, Morris, New Jersey

65. A.Lanson CRANE - International Genealogical

Index/NA

Gender: M Birth: 1807 Morristown, Morris, New Jersey

66. A. Lanson CRANE - International Genealogical

Index/NA

Gender: M Birth: Abt. 1809 Mentz, Cayuga, New York

67. A. F. CRANE - International Genealogical Index/NA

Gender: M Birth: 1859 <>, Fountain Co, Indiana

68. A. M. Gibson CRANE - International Genealogical

Index/NA

Gender: M Birth: 1841 Caldwell, Essex, New Jersey

69. A. M. Gibson CRANE - International Genealogical

Index/NA

Gender: M Birth: 1841 Caldwell, Essex, New Jersey

70. A. M. GIBSON CRANE - International Genealogical

Index/NA

Gender: M Birth: 1841 Caldwell, Essex, New Jersey

71. A. F. CRANE - International Genealogical Index/NA

Gender: M Birth: 1856 Ansonia, New Haven, Connecticut

72. A. F. CRANE - International Genealogical Index/NA

Gender: M Birth: 1856 Ansonia, New Haven, Connecticut

73. A. F. CRANE - International Genealogical Index/NA

Gender: M Birth: 1856 Ansonia, New Haven, Connecticut

74. Esme Dagmar <CREAN> - International Genealogical

Index/SP

Gender: < Birth: 18 Jun 1902 Kawu Kawu, Bay Of Island,

New Zealand

75. Esme Dagmar CREAN - International Genealogical

Index/SP

Gender: F Birth: 18 Jun 1902 Kawau-Kawau, New Zealand

76. Esme Dagmar CREAN - International Genealogical

Index/SP

Gender: F Birth: 18 Jun 1902 Kawau-Kawau, Bay Of

Island, New Zealand

77. John CREAN - International Genealogical Index/SP

Gender: M Marriage: 29 Dec 1881 Riverton, Otago, New

Zealand

78. Lillian Ray CREAN - International Genealogical

Index/SP

Gender: F Birth: 2 Aug 1898 Auckland, New Zealand

79. Lillian Ray CREAN - International Genealogical

Index/SP

Gender: F Birth: 2 Aug 1898 Auckland, Auckland, New

Zealand

80. Michael CREAN - International Genealogical

Index/SP

Gender: M Marriage: 2 Nov 1880 Riverton, Otago, New

Zealand

81. 3 Gt. Gd. Father CRANE - International

Genealogical Index/MI

Gender: M Misc: ,

82. 3 Gt. Gd. Mother CRANE - International

Genealogical Index/MI

Gender: F Misc: ,

83. ? CRANE - International Genealogical Index/MI

Gender: F Misc: ,

84. A. Jep CRANE - International Genealogical Index/MI

Gender: M Birth: 14 Oct 1852 <Ga, Gwinnett Co.>,

Duncan Creek, Congregational

85. Aaron N. CRANE - International Genealogical

Index/MI

Gender: M Birth: 12 Nov 1813 ,

86. Aaron CRANE - International Genealogical Index/MI

Gender: M Birth: Abt. 1782 Of Caldwell,

87. Aaron CRANE - International Genealogical Index/MI

Gender: M Birth: Abt. 1782 Of Caldwell, ?,

88. Abby R. CRANE - International Genealogical

Index/MI

Gender: F Birth: Abt. 1803 ,

89. Abby R. CRANE - International Genealogical

Index/MI

Gender: F Birth: Abt. 1803 ,

90. Abigail CRANE - International Genealogical

Index/MI

Gender: F Birth: 15 Feb 1700 ,

91. Abigail CRANE - International Genealogical

Index/MI

Gender: F Birth: 28 May 1752 ,

92. Abigail CRANE - International Genealogical

Index/MI

Gender: F Birth: Abt. 1766 West Bloomfield, ?,

93. Abigail CRANE - International Genealogical

Index/MI

Gender: F Birth: 16 Apr 1808 ,

94. Abigail K. CRANE - International Genealogical

Index/MI

Gender: F Birth: 1810 Pb.n.j.,

95. Abigail CRANE - International Genealogical

Index/MI

Gender: F Birth: 26 Aug 1822 Pb N. J.,

96. Abner CRAIN - International Genealogical Index/MI

Gender: M Birth: Abt. 1799 Of ?,

97. Abraham CRANE - International Genealogical

Index/MI

Gender: M Birth: 25 Dec 1774 ,

98. Ada CRANE - International Genealogical Index/MI

Gender: F Birth: 7 Jun 1863 ,

99. Adah CRANE - International Genealogical Index/MI

Gender: F Misc: ,

100. Ada Irena CRANE - International Genealogical

Index/MI

Gender: F Death: 5 Aug 1850 ,

101. Addison Moses CRANE - International Genealogical

Index/MI

Gender: M Birth: 2 Jul 1814 ,

102. Adaline CRANE - International Genealogical

Index/MI

Gender: F Birth: 24 Nov 1827 ,

103. Adaline CRANE - International Genealogical

Index/MI

Gender: F Birth: 24 Nov 1827 ,

104. Adaline CRANE - International Genealogical

Index/MI

Gender: F Birth: 10 Apr 1802 ?,

105. Adonyah CRANE - International Genealogical

Index/MI

Gender: M Misc: ,

106. Adiona H. KREIN - Ancestral File

Gender: F Birth/Christening: Abt 1845 <N. Dansville,

Livingston Co., Ny>

107. Adolph KREIN - Ancestral File

Gender: M Birth/Christening: 8 May 1903 Wishek, Mc

Intosh, Nd

108. Agnes CRANE (CREAN) - Ancestral File

Gender: F Birth/Christening: 1889 Birkenhead,

Cheshire, England

109. Agust KREIN - Ancestral File

Gender: M Birth/Christening: 12 Mar 1905 Wishek, Mc

Intosh, Nd

110. Alice CREAN - Ancestral File

Gender: F Birth/Christening: 26 Dec 1879 Kilskeery

Parish, Derry, Northern Ireland

111. Allan CRANE (CREAN) - Ancestral File

Gender: M Birth/Christening: 4 Feb 1895 Birkenhead,

Cheshire, England

112. Andrew KREIN (CRINE) - Ancestral File

Gender: M Birth/Christening: 1842

113. Andrew CREAN - Ancestral File

Gender: M Birth/Christening: 25 Apr 1823 Menlo,

Galway, Ireland

114. Anna Gertraud KREIN - Ancestral File

Gender: F Birth/Christening: Abt 25 1682 Apr Of

Wahlen, Alsfeld, Ober Hessen, Hessen Darmstadt

115. Anna Catharina KREIN - Ancestral File

Gender: F Birth/Christening: 1688

116. Anna Gertraud KREIN - Ancestral File

Gender: F Birth/Christening: 1682

117. Anna Maria KREN - Ancestral File

Gender: F Birth/Christening: 7 Jun 1784 Pyhra,

Niederoesterr, Oesterreich

118. Anna Maria KREN - Ancestral File

Gender: F Birth/Christening: 6 Apr 1774 Eschenau,

L-Astr, Astr

119. Anna KREEN - Ancestral File

Gender: F Birth/Christening: 5 Apr 1678 St. Georgen,

Salzburg, Austria

120. Anna Josefa KREEN - Ancestral File

Gender: F Birth/Christening: 24 May 1679 St. Georgen,

Salzburg, Austria

121. Anna Margaretha KREIN - Ancestral File

Gender: F Birth/Christening: 1614 Of Ziegenberg,

Oberhessen, Hessen, Germany

122. Anna Maria KREIN - Ancestral File

Gender: F Birth/Christening: 1734 Aach, Trier,

Rheinland, Germany

123. Anna Katharina Grein Or KREIN - Ancestral File

Gender: F Birth/Christening: Abt 1773 Of Bernsburg,

Ober Hessen, Hessen Darmstadt, Germany

124. Anna KREN - Ancestral File

Gender: F Birth/Christening: Abt 1842 , Bohemia,

Czechoslovakia

125. Anna KREN - Ancestral File

Gender: F Birth/Christening: < 1835 <Kl.motten 41, ,

N.oe., Oesterreich>

126. Anne CREAN - Ancestral File

Gender: F Birth/Christening: < 1890 , Galway, Ireland

127. Arline Eleanor CREAN - Ancestral File

Gender: F Birth/Christening: 9 Oct 1925 , Newark,

Essex, Nj

128. Bartholomew CREAN - Ancestral File

Gender: M Birth/Christening: 23 Aug 1835 , Galway,

Ireland

129. Bartly CREAN - Ancestral File

Gender: M Birth/Christening: Jul 1830 , Galway,

Ireland

130. Biddy CREAN - Ancestral File

Gender: F Birth/Christening: 1 Oct 1826 , Galway,

Ireland

131. Catherine CREAN - Pedigree Resource File

Gender: F Birth/Christening: 1881 County

Cleary,Ireland

132. Ellen Crean - Pedigree Resource File

Gender: F Birth/Christening: WFT Est. 1859-1899

Ireland

133. Martin Crean - Pedigree Resource File

Gender: M Birth/Christening: WFT Est. 1829-1860

Ireland

134. Mary Crean - Pedigree Resource File

Gender: F Birth/Christening: abt 1878 Ireland

135. Nora Crean - Pedigree Resource File

Gender: F Birth/Christening: 1880 Ireland

136. Richard M. Crean - Pedigree Resource File

Gender: M Birth/Christening: 18 Sep 1884 Co. Kerry,

Ireland

137. Charles John Creen - Pedigree Resource File

Gender: M Birth/Christening: abt 1859 Chicago, Cook

Co., Il

138. Dorothy Lillian Judith Creen - Pedigree Resource

File

Gender: F Birth/Christening: 1 Jun 1909 Chicago, Cook

Co., Il

139. Harriett Eleanor Creen - Pedigree Resource File

Gender: F Birth/Christening: 6 Nov 1911 Chicago Il

140. Harry Randall Creen - Pedigree Resource File

Gender: M Birth/Christening: 7 Oct 1884 Chicago, Cook

Co., Il

141. Martin F. Crean - Pedigree Resource File

Gender: M Birth/Christening: 3 Oct 1913 Waterbury?, CT

142. Bertha Adelaide Creen - Pedigree Resource File

Gender: F Death/Burial: 2 Apr 1956 Frankfort Mi

143. Christian Krein - Pedigree Resource File

Gender: F Birth/Christening: 1881

144. Dorthea Krein - Pedigree Resource File

Gender: F Birth/Christening: 1874

145. George Creen - Pedigree Resource File

Gender: M

146. Hazel Creen - Pedigree Resource File

Gender: F

147. Jennie Crean - Pedigree Resource File

Gender: F Birth/Christening: WFT Est. 1859-1899

148. Jeremiah Crean - Pedigree Resource File

Gender: M Birth/Christening: WFT Est. 1859-1899

149. John Krein - Pedigree Resource File

Gender: M

150. Margaretha KREIN - Pedigree Resource File

Gender: F Birth/Christening: 19 Feb 1862 Neudorf,

South Russia

151. Mary St. Helen Crean - Pedigree Resource File

Gender: F Birth/Christening: WFT Est. 1859-1899

 

152. Michael CREAN - Pedigree Resource File

Gender: M

153. Crean Surname Page - Web Sites

Family Tree Maker's Genealogy Site: User Home Pages:

Crean and New England Family Genealogy Crean and New

England Family Genealogy I'am seeking any infomation

on the Eaton ancestors of my web page and Ferris

family info from Indiana or up state New York. If

anyone can help me on my

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Date:        Fri, 14 Apr 2000 11:48:39 -0700 (PDT)   From:        Caoimhghin O Croidheain <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>  Subject:  [CRYAN] mormon list 3  To:       CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

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1. ..._ CREANE -

International Genealogical Index/BI

Gender: F Christening: 17 May 1663 Poulton Le Fylde,

Lancashire, England

2. Ada CREHAN - International Genealogical Index/BI

Gender: F Birth: 22 Apr 1860 Limerick, Limerick,

Ireland

3. Ada CREHAN - International Genealogical Index/BI

Gender: F Birth: 1860 Limerick, Ireland

4. ADA CREHAN - International Genealogical Index/BI

Gender: F Birth: 1860 Limerick, Limerick, Ireland

5. Ada CREHAN - International Genealogical Index/BI

Gender: F Birth: 1860 Limerick, Limerick, Ireland

6. Agness CREEN - International Genealogical Index/BI

Gender: F Birth: 12 Oct 1866 0216, Loughbrickland,

Down, Ireland

7. Agnes CREINE - International Genealogical Index/BI

Gender: F Marriage: 2 Feb 1623 Hexham, Northumberland,

England

8. Agnes CREINE - International Genealogical Index/BI

Gender: F Birth: Abt. 1603 Of Hexham, Northumberland,

England

9. Agnes CREINE - International Genealogical Index/BI

Gender: F Misc: 2 Feb 1623 Hexham, Northumberland,

England

10. Agnes CREINE - International Genealogical Index/BI

Gender: F Marriage: 2 Feb 1623 Hexham, Northumberland,

England

11. Agnes CREINE - International Genealogical Index/BI

Gender: F Marriage: 2 Feb 1623 Hexham, Northumberland,

England

12. AGNES CRENE - International Genealogical Index/BI

Gender: F Birth: 1540 Suffolk, England

13. AGNES CRENE - International Genealogical Index/BI

Gender: F Marriage: 1559 Suffolk, England

14. AGNES CRENE - International Genealogical Index/BI

Gender: F Marriage: 1559 Suffolk, England

15. Alexander CREIN - International Genealogical

Index/BI

Gender: M Christening: 24 Jul 1859 Holy Trinity,

Salford, Lancashire, England

16. Alice CREAN - International Genealogical Index/BI

Gender: F Birth: 1 Jun 1866 0334, Belfast, Antrim,

Ireland

17. Alice CREEN - International Genealogical Index/BI

Gender: F Christening: Mar 1673 Andreas, Isle Of Man,

England

18. Alice CRENE - International Genealogical Index/BI

Gender: F Christening: 2 Dec 1662 Bispham With

Norbreck, Lancashire, England

19. Alice CREAN - International Genealogical Index/BI

Gender: F Marriage: 19 Jan 1773 Cathedral, Manchester,

Lancashire, England

20. Andw. CREAN - International Genealogical Index/BI

Gender: M Christening: 25 Apr 1823 St. Nicholas,

Galway, Galway, Ireland

21. Anna Teriza CREAN - International Genealogical

Index/BI

Gender: F Birth: 30 Jun 1864 0520, Dublin, Dublin,

Ireland

22. Anna CREENE - International Genealogical Index/BI

Gender: F Christening: 4 Jan 1642 Saint Martin In The

Fields, Westminster, London, England

23. Anne CREANE - International Genealogical Index/BI

Gender: F Birth: 15 Nov 1865 0227, Castleconor, Sligo,

Ireland

24. Hannah CREEN - International Genealogical Index/BI

Gender: F Christening: 23 Jul 1866 Saint Peter,

Liverpool, Lancashire, England

25. Anne CREEN - International Genealogical Index/BI

Gender: F Christening: 28 Jan 1718 Malew, Isle Of Man,

England

26. 1) Lydia CRANE - International Genealogical

Index/NA

Gender: F Marriage: Abt. 1806 <Newark>, Essex, New

Jersey

27. 1. Clarissa CRANE - International Genealogical

Index/NA

Gender: F Marriage: Nov 1821 <Waltham>, Middlesex,

Massachusetts

28. (1) George Francis CRANE - International

Genealogical Index/NA

Gender: M Marriage: 3 Mar 1889 Richfield, Sevier, Utah

29. 2. Mehitable CRANE - International Genealogical

Index/NA

Gender: F Marriage: 2 Apr 1730 <Berkley>, Bristol,

Massachusetts

30. 2) Martha CRANE - International Genealogical

Index/NA

Gender: F Marriage: 15 Jan 1783 <Westfield>, Union,

New Jersey

31. 3 Lucy CRENE - International Genealogical Index/NA

Gender: F Marriage: 1922 Buffalo, Leon, Texas

32. 61 sham CRANE - International Genealogical

Index/NA

Gender: M Birth: 13 Mar 1718 Windham, Windham,

Connecticut

33. A. F. CRANE - International Genealogical Index/NA

Gender: M Birth: Abt. 1834 <Vicksburg>, Warren,

Mississippi

34. A. CRANE - International Genealogical Index/NA

Gender: M Birth: 1834 New Jersey

35. A. D. W. CRANE - International Genealogical

Index/NA

Gender: M Birth: 1832 Burlington, Otsego, New York

36. Mr. A.D.W. CRANE - International Genealogical

Index/NA

Gender: M Birth: 1831 Coryville, Mckean, Pennsylvania

37. A. D. W. CRANE - International Genealogical

Index/NA

Gender: M Birth: Abt. 1831 Corry, Erie, Pennsylvania

38. A.M. <CRANE> - International Genealogical Index/NA

Gender: < Birth: Abt. 1811 Of, Oakland, Alameda,

California

39. A.M. CRANE - International Genealogical Index/NA

Gender: M Birth: Abt. 1811 Of, Oakland, Alameda,

California

40. A. Lanson CRANE - International Genealogical

Index/NA

Gender: M Birth: Abt. 1808 Mentz Twp, Cayuga, New York

41. A. Lenson CRANE - International Genealogical

Index/NA

Gender: M Birth: 1807 Morristown, Morris, New Jersey

42. A.Lanson CRANE - International Genealogical

Index/NA

Gender: M Birth: 1807 Morristown, Morris, New Jersey

43. A. Lanson CRANE - International Genealogical

Index/NA

Gender: M Birth: Abt. 1809 Mentz, Cayuga, New York

44. A. F. CRANE - International Genealogical Index/NA

Gender: M Birth: 1859 <>, Fountain Co, Indiana

45. A. M. Gibson CRANE - International Genealogical

Index/NA

Gender: M Birth: 1841 Caldwell, Essex, New Jersey

46. A. M. Gibson CRANE - International Genealogical

Index/NA

Gender: M Birth: 1841 Caldwell, Essex, New Jersey

47. A. M. GIBSON CRANE - International Genealogical

Index/NA

Gender: M Birth: 1841 Caldwell, Essex, New Jersey

48. A. F. CRANE - International Genealogical Index/NA

Gender: M Birth: 1856 Ansonia, New Haven, Connecticut

49. A. F. CRANE - International Genealogical Index/NA

Gender: M Birth: 1856 Ansonia, New Haven, Connecticut

50. A. F. CRANE - International Genealogical Index/NA

Gender: M Birth: 1856 Ansonia, New Haven, Connecticut

51. 3 Gt. Gd. Father CRANE - International

Genealogical Index/MI

Gender: M Misc: ,

52. 3 Gt. Gd. Mother CRANE - International

Genealogical Index/MI

Gender: F Misc: ,

53. ? CRANE - International Genealogical Index/MI

Gender: F Misc: ,

54. A. Jep CRANE - International Genealogical Index/MI

Gender: M Birth: 14 Oct 1852 <Ga, Gwinnett Co.>,

Duncan Creek, Congregational

55. Aaron N. CRANE - International Genealogical

Index/MI

Gender: M Birth: 12 Nov 1813 ,

56. Aaron CRANE - International Genealogical Index/MI

Gender: M Birth: Abt. 1782 Of Caldwell,

57. Aaron CRANE - International Genealogical Index/MI

Gender: M Birth: Abt. 1782 Of Caldwell, ?,

58. Abby R. CRANE - International Genealogical

Index/MI

Gender: F Birth: Abt. 1803 ,

59. Abby R. CRANE - International Genealogical

Index/MI

Gender: F Birth: Abt. 1803 ,

60. Abigail CRANE - International Genealogical

Index/MI

Gender: F Birth: 15 Feb 1700 ,

61. Abigail CRANE - International Genealogical

Index/MI

Gender: F Birth: 28 May 1752 ,

62. Abigail CRANE - International Genealogical

Index/MI

Gender: F Birth: Abt. 1766 West Bloomfield, ?,

63. Abigail CRANE - International Genealogical

Index/MI

Gender: F Birth: 16 Apr 1808 ,

64. Abigail K. CRANE - International Genealogical

Index/MI

Gender: F Birth: 1810 Pb.n.j.,

65. Abigail CRANE - International Genealogical

Index/MI

Gender: F Birth: 26 Aug 1822 Pb N. J.,

66. Abner CRAIN - International Genealogical Index/MI

Gender: M Birth: Abt. 1799 Of ?,

67. Abraham CRANE - International Genealogical

Index/MI

Gender: M Birth: 25 Dec 1774 ,

68. Ada CRANE - International Genealogical Index/MI

Gender: F Birth: 7 Jun 1863 ,

69. Adah CRANE - International Genealogical Index/MI

Gender: F Misc: ,

70. Ada Irena CRANE - International Genealogical

Index/MI

Gender: F Death: 5 Aug 1850 ,

71. Addison Moses CRANE - International Genealogical

Index/MI

Gender: M Birth: 2 Jul 1814 ,

72. Adaline CRANE - International Genealogical

Index/MI

Gender: F Birth: 24 Nov 1827 ,

73. Adaline CRANE - International Genealogical

Index/MI

Gender: F Birth: 24 Nov 1827 ,

74. Adaline CRANE - International Genealogical

Index/MI

Gender: F Birth: 10 Apr 1802 ?,

75. Adonyah CRANE - International Genealogical

Index/MI

Gender: M Misc: ,

76. (1St)James M. CRANE - Ancestral File

Gender: M Birth/Christening: < 1929 <, Cobb, Georgia>

77. (Dau) CRANE - Ancestral File

Gender: F Birth/Christening: 12 Mar 1945 Oakley,

Cassia, Id

78. (Infant) CRANE - Ancestral File

Gender: U Birth/Christening: < 1811 <Goshen, Ny Of

Consumption>

79. (Infant) CRAIN - Ancestral File

Gender: M Birth/Christening: 15 Jan 1900 Lafayette, ,

Ms

80. (Not Named) CRANE - Ancestral File

Gender: M Birth/Christening: 1804 Little Sandusky, ,

Oh

81. (Twin) CRANE - Ancestral File

Gender: M Birth/Christening: 1877 , South Windsor,

Hartford, Connecticut

82. 8 More? CRANE - Ancestral File

Gender: U Birth/Christening: < 1778 <Freetown,

Bristol, Mass>

83. A Dolson CRANE - Ancestral File

Gender: M Birth/Christening: < 1877 <Brant, Saginaw,

Mi>

84. A. F. CRANE - Ancestral File

Gender: M Birth/Christening: Abt 1834

85. A. Lanson CRANE - Ancestral File

Gender: M Birth/Christening: < 1809 <Mentz, Cayuga,

New York>

86. A. M. Gibson CRANE - Ancestral File

Gender: U Birth/Christening: 1841

87. A. F. CRANE - Ancestral File

Gender: U Birth/Christening: < 1856 <Ansonia, ,

Connecticut>

88. A. G. CHRANE - Ancestral File

Gender: M Birth/Christening: 7 Mar 1849 Keytesville,

Crawford, Missouri

89. A. W. CRANE - Ancestral File

Gender: M Birth/Christening: < 1820 <, , Virginia>

90. Aaron L. CRAIN - Ancestral File

Gender: M Birth/Christening: 3 Oct 1874 <, Columbia,

Ar>

91. Aaron CRANE - Ancestral File

Gender: M Birth/Christening: 24 Mar 1781 <Stafford, ,

Connecticut>

92. Aaron W. CRANE - Ancestral File

Gender: M Birth/Christening: 12 Nov 1813 Barkhamsted,

, Connecticut

93. Aaron D. CRANE - Ancestral File

Gender: M Birth/Christening: < 1823 <West Orange, ,

New Jersey>

94. Aaron D. CRANE - Ancestral File

Gender: M Birth/Christening: < 1839

95. Aaron CRANE - Ancestral File

Gender: M Birth/Christening: < 1761 <Newark, , New

Jersey>

96. Aaron CRANE - Ancestral File

Gender: M Birth/Christening: 23 Mar 1781

<Killingworth, , Connecticut>

97. Aaron CRANE - Ancestral File

Gender: M Birth/Christening: 1777 Of Killingworth,

Middlesex, Connecticut

98. Aaron CRANE - Ancestral File

Gender: M Birth/Christening: 8 May 1756 <, Scantic

Parish, Connecticut>

99. Aaron Root CRAINE - Ancestral File

Gender: M Birth/Christening: 14 May 1841 Evans Mills,

Jefferson, Ny

100. Aaron CRAIN - Ancestral File

Gender: M Birth/Christening: 1755 , King William,

Virginia

101. Clara Gertrude CRANE - Pedigree Resource File

Gender: F Birth/Christening: 1879 (reg) Wollongong,

NSW

102. Donald McKay Crane - Pedigree Resource File

Gender: M Birth/Christening: 19 Oct 1921 Adelaide.

South Australia. Australia.

103. Florence A. CRANE - Pedigree Resource File

Gender: F Birth/Christening: 1882 (reg) Woonona, NSW

104. Frederick Joseph CRANNIS - Pedigree Resource File

Gender: M Birth/Christening: 23 Dec 1893 Marrickville,

NSW

105. James CRANE - Pedigree Resource File

Gender: M Birth/Christening: 1878 (reg) Wollongong,

NSW

106. John W. CRANE - Pedigree Resource File

Gender: M Birth/Christening: 1884 (reg) Woonona, NSW

107. Kathleen Miller CRANE - Pedigree Resource File

Gender: F Birth/Christening: 1894 (reg) Taree, NSW

108. Lancelot A. CRANE - Pedigree Resource File

Gender: M Birth/Christening: 1887 (reg) Woonona, NSW

109. Norman Francis Alfred Henry Crane - Pedigree

Resource File

Gender: M Birth/Christening: 1898 Sydney, New South

Wales, Australia

110. Sarah CRANE - Pedigree Resource File

Gender: F Birth/Christening: 1883 (reg) Woonona, NSW

111. Lucy Crain - Pedigree Resource File

Gender: F Birth/Christening: 22 Mar 1805 Canada

112. Patricia Crane - Pedigree Resource File

Gender: F Birth/Christening: 18 Jun 1936 Coleman, AB,

Canada

113. William CRAINE - Pedigree Resource File

Gender: M Birth/Christening: 22 Mar 1820 Isle Of Man

114. David Crane - Pedigree Resource File

Gender: M Birth/Christening: 1721 New Jersey

115. Jedediah Crane - Pedigree Resource File

Gender: M Birth/Christening: 1716 New Jersey

116. John R Crane - Pedigree Resource File

Gender: M Birth/Christening: 1749 New Jersey

117. Joseph Crane - Pedigree Resource File

Gender: M Birth/Christening: 1732 New Jersey

118. Rebecca Crane - Pedigree Resource File

Gender: F Birth/Christening: 6 Sep 1707 New Jersey

119. Rebecca Crane - Pedigree Resource File

Gender: F Birth/Christening: 6 Sep 1707 New Jersey

120. Sarah Crane - Pedigree Resource File

Gender: F Birth/Christening: 1734 New Jersey

121. Agnes CRANE - Pedigree Resource File

Gender: F Birth/Christening: abt 1438

Stonham,Suffolk,ENGLAND

122. Agnes CRANE - Pedigree Resource File

Gender: F Birth/Christening: abt 1552

of,Chilton,Suffolk,England

123. Agnes CRANE - Pedigree Resource File

Gender: F Birth/Christening: abt 1535

of,Chilton,Suffolk,England

124. Anne CRANE - Pedigree Resource File

Gender: F Birth/Christening: abt 1630

of,Chilton,Suffolk,England

125. Benjamin Crane - Pedigree Resource File

Gender: M Birth/Christening: 1630/39 of Sheffield,

Yorkshire, England

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Date:     Fri, 14 Apr 2000 11:49:25 -0700 (PDT)   From: Caoimhghin O Croidheain caoimhghin@yahoo.com>  | Subject: [CRYAN] mormon list 4    To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

You searched for:       Cregan

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1. Agnes CREGEEN -

International Genealogical Index/BI

Gender: F Christening: 31 Aug 1828 Kirk Rushen, Isle

Of Man, England

2. Agnes CREGEEN - International Genealogical Index/BI

Gender: F Christening: 20 Feb 1870 Lezayre, Isle Of

Man, England

3. Agnes CREGINE - International Genealogical Index/BI

Gender: F Marriage: 18 May 1857 Braddan, Isle Of Man,

England

4. Albert Edward CRAIGHAN - International Genealogical

Index/BI

Gender: M Birth: 6 Mar 1902 Cleckheaton, Yorkshire,

England

5. Albert Edward CRAIGHAN - International Genealogical

Index/BI

Gender: M Birth: 6 Mar 1902 Liversedge, Yorkshire,

England

6. Albert Edward CRAIGHAN - International Genealogical

Index/BI

Gender: M Marriage: 25 Dec 1926 Mirfield, Yorkshire,

England

7. Alexander William CRAIGIN - International

Genealogical Index/BI

Gender: M Christening: 19 Feb 1874 Saint Barnabas,

Douglas, Isle Of Man, England

8. Alexander CRAIGIN - International Genealogical

Index/BI

Gender: M Christening: 15 Jan 1815 Drainie, Moray,

Scotland

9. Alexander CRAIGON - International Genealogical

Index/BI

Gender: M Christening: 27 Feb 1782 Cairnie By Huntly,

Aberdeen, Scotland

10. Alexander CRAIGIN - International Genealogical

Index/BI

Gender: M Christening: 21 May 1697 Huntly, Aberdeen,

Scotland

11. Alexander CRAIGIN - International Genealogical

Index/BI

Gender: M Marriage: 23 Jan 1810 Grange, Banff,

Scotland

12. Alfred Fitzsimmons CREGEEN - International

Genealogical Index/BI

Gender: M Christening: 30 Oct 1844 Saint Marys,

Castletown, Isle Of Man, England

13. Alfred Henry CRAGON - International Genealogical

Index/BI

Gender: M Christening: 19 Jan 1868 St. Mathias,

Liverpool, Lancashire, England

14. Alice CREGEEN - International Genealogical

Index/BI

Gender: F Christening: 1 Apr 1866 Lezayre, Isle Of

Man, England

15. Amanda Eleanor CREGEEN - International

Genealogical Index/BI

Gender: F Christening: 12 Jun 1870 Kirk Rushen, Isle

Of Man, England

16. Andrew CREGAN - International Genealogical

Index/BI

Gender: M Birth: 10 May 1867 0374, Belfast, Antrim,

Ireland

17. Andrew CREEGAN - International Genealogical

Index/BI

Gender: M Birth: 22 Dec 1864 0747, Forkill, Armagh,

Ireland

18. Andreew CREEGAN - International Genealogical

Index/BI

Gender: M Birth: 15 Dec 1865 0739, Forkill, Armagh,

Ireland

19. Anne CREGEEN - International Genealogical Index/BI

Gender: F Christening: 28 May 1865 Arbory, Isle Of

Man, England

20. Hannah CREGAN - International Genealogical

Index/BI

Gender: F Christening: 20 Oct 1864 Eskdaleside Cum

Ugglebarnby, Yorkshire, England

21. Anne CREGAN - International Genealogical Index/BI

Gender: F Birth: 25 May 1866 0280, Tarbert, Kerry,

Ireland

22. Ann CREGEEN - International Genealogical Index/BI

Gender: F Christening: 23 Jun 1833 Kirk Rushen, Isle

Of Man, England

23. Ann CREGEEN - International Genealogical Index/BI

Gender: F Christening: 7 Jun 1840 Arbory, Isle Of Man,

England

24. Ann CREJEEN - International Genealogical Index/BI

Gender: F Christening: 10 Jan 1813 Kirk Rushen, Isle

Of Man, England

25. Annie Avenell CREGEN - International Genealogical

Index/BI

Gender: F Christening: 15 Aug 1877 Bromley, Kent,

England

26. A. H. Son <CRAGIN> - International Genealogical

Index/NA

Gender: < Birth: Abt. 1790 Temple, Hillsboro, New

Hampshire

27. A. H. CRAGIN - International Genealogical Index/NA

Gender: M Birth: 1790 Temple, Hillsboro, New Hampshire

28. A.H. CRAGIN - International Genealogical Index/NA

Gender: M Birth: 1790 Temple, New Hampshire

29. Aaron Harrison CRAGIN - International Genealogical

Index/NA

Gender: M Birth: 3 Feb 1821 Weston, Windsor, Vermont

30. Aaron Harrison CRAGIN - International Genealogical

Index/NA

Gender: M Birth: 3 Feb 1821 Weston, Wndsr, Vermont

31. Aaron H. CRAGIN - International Genealogical

Index/NA

Gender: M Birth: 17 May 1811 Temple, Hllsbr, New

Hampshire

32. Aaron H. <CRAGUN> - International Genealogical

Index/NA

Gender: < Birth: Abt. 1815 Leban, New York

33. Aaron <CRAGIN> - International Genealogical

Index/NA

Gender: < Birth: 16 Apr 1772 Of, Temple, Hillsboro,

New Hampshire

34. Aaron CRAGIN - International Genealogical Index/NA

Gender: M Birth: 31 Dec 1796 Weston, Windsor, Vermont

35. Aaron CRAGIN - International Genealogical Index/NA

Gender: M Birth: 16 Apr 1772 Temple, Hillsboro, New

Hampshire

36. Aaron CRAGIN - International Genealogical Index/NA

Gender: M Birth: 31 Dec 1796 Weston, Wndsr, Vermont

37. Aaron CRAGIN - International Genealogical Index/NA

Gender: M Birth: 16 Apr 1772 Temple, Hllsbr, New

Hampshire

38. Aaron CRAGIN - International Genealogical Index/NA

Gender: M Marriage: 1797 Carlisle, Middlesex,

Massachusetts

39. Aaron CRAGUN - International Genealogical Index/NA

Gender: M Birth: 16 Apr 1772 Temple, New Hampshire

40. Aaron H. CRAGUN - International Genealogical

Index/NA

Gender: M Birth: Abt. 1815 Of Leban, New York

41. Aaron CRAGIN - International Genealogical Index/NA

Gender: M Birth: Abt. 1778 Billerica, Middx,

Massachusetts

42. Aaron CRAGIN - International Genealogical Index/NA

Gender: M Marriage: 9 Nov 1819 <Weston>, Wndsr,

Vermont

43. Aaron CRAGIN - International Genealogical Index/NA

Gender: M Birth: 31 Dec 1796 Weston, Windsor, Vermont

44. Aaron Harrison CRAGIN - International Genealogical

Index/NA

Gender: M Birth: 3 Feb 1821 Weston, Windsor, Vermont

45. Aaron CRAGIN - International Genealogical Index/NA

Gender: M Marriage: Abt. 1819 <Weston>, Windsor,

Vermont

46. Aaron CRAGIN - International Genealogical Index/NA

Gender: M Birth: Abt. 1778 Billerica, Middlesex,

Massachusetts

47. Aaron CRAGUN - International Genealogical Index/NA

Gender: M Birth: 16 Apr 1772 Temple, Hillsboro, New

Hampshire

48. Aaron H. CRAGUN - International Genealogical

Index/NA

Gender: M Birth: Abt. 1815 Of Leban, , New York

49. Abigail CRAGUN - International Genealogical

Index/NA

Gender: F Birth: 17 Dec 1823 Franklin Co., Indiana

50. Abigail <CRAGUN> - International Genealogical

Index/NA

Gender: < Birth: 17 Dec 1823 Harrison, Indiana

51. Ada Adelaide Maria CREGAN - International

Genealogical Index/SP

Gender: F Birth: 30 Sep 1870 Braidwood, New South

Wales, Australia

52. Ada Adelaide Maria CREGAN - International

Genealogical Index/SP

Gender: F Marriage: 2 Aug 1890 Goulburn New South

Wales, Australia

53. Albert E CREGAN - International Genealogical

Index/SP

Gender: M Birth: 1868 New South Wales, Australia

54. Charles George Henry CREGAN - International

Genealogical Index/SP

Gender: M Birth: 1874 New South Wales, Australia

55. Edward CREGAN - International Genealogical

Index/SP

Gender: M Birth: Abt. 1826 Campbelltown, New South

Wales, Australia

56. Edward CREGAN - International Genealogical

Index/SP

Gender: M Marriage: 1835 Campbelltown, New South

Wales, Australia

57. Edward CREGAN - International Genealogical

Index/SP

Gender: M Marriage: 13 Jun 1854 Braidwood, New South

Wales, Australia

58. Edward CREGAN - International Genealogical

Index/SP

Gender: M Marriage: 22 Nov 1835 New South Wales,

Australia

59. Eliza CREGAN - International Genealogical Index/SP

Gender: F Marriage: 8 Dec 1867 Braidwood, New South

Wales, Australia

60. Elizabeth CREGAN - International Genealogical

Index/SP

Gender: F Marriage: 27 Sep 1882 New South Wales,

Australia

61. George Henry CREGAN - International Genealogical

Index/SP

Gender: M Christening: 3 May 1874 Braidwood, New South

Wales, Australia

62. Isaac D CREGAN - International Genealogical

Index/SP

Gender: M Birth: 1862 New South Wales, Australia

63. Jane CREGAN - International Genealogical Index/SP

Gender: F Birth: 1838 Campbelltown, New South Wales,

Australia

64. Owen John CREGAN - International Genealogical

Index/SP

Gender: M Marriage: 10 Sep 1929 West End, Brisbane,

Queensland, Australia

65. Patrick N CREGAN - International Genealogical

Index/SP

Gender: M Birth: 1858 New South Wales, Australia

66. Peter CREGAN - International Genealogical Index/SP

Gender: M Christening: 13 Sep 1846 Camden, New South

Wales, Australia

67. Theodore E CREGAN - International Genealogical

Index/SP

Gender: M Birth: 1864 New South Wales, Australia

68. Theodore E CREGAN - International Genealogical

Index/SP

Gender: M Marriage: 1903 New South Wales, Australia

69. Theodore Edward CREGAN - International

Genealogical Index/SP

Gender: M Birth: 10 Dec 1864 Braidwood, New South

Wales, Australia

70. William CREGAN - International Genealogical

Index/SP

Gender: M Marriage: 25 Nov 1891 City, Brisbane,

Queensland, Australia

71. Aaron CRAGIN - International Genealogical Index/MI

Gender: M Marriage: 16 Feb 1797 <Billerica, Mddlsx>,

Massac,

72. Charles CRAGIN - International Genealogical

Index/MI

Gender: M Birth: 1 Oct 1801 Billerica, Mddlsx, Massac,

73. Elizabeth CRAGUN - International Genealogical

Index/MI

Gender: F Birth: 1 May 1799 ,

74. Francis CRAGIN - International Genealogical

Index/MI

Gender: M Marriage: 16 Apr 1829 Temple, Hllsbr, N-Hvn,

75. Francis CRAGIN - International Genealogical

Index/MI

Gender: M Birth: 1796 Temple N.h. Prob.,

76. Hepsibah CRAGON - International Genealogical

Index/MI

Gender: F Birth: 26 Apr 1817 Of Ashby Co. N. H.,

77. James CRAGEN - International Genealogical Index/MI

Gender: M Birth: Abt. 1775 Of United States Of Am.,

78. John CRAGIN - International Genealogical Index/MI

Gender: M Birth: 4 Mar 1776 United States Of Am.,

79. Marinda CRAGIN - International Genealogical

Index/MI

Gender: F Birth: 9 Nov 1799 Billerica, Mddlsx, Massac,

80. Marta KRAGEN - International Genealogical Index/MI

Gender: F Marriage: 19 Feb 1693 Mahlbach,

81. Mary Ann CRAGIN - International Genealogical

Index/MI

Gender: F Birth: 24 Jan 1818 Paper Mill Village,

Hllsbr, N0hr,

82. Milo CRAGIN - International Genealogical Index/MI

Gender: M Birth: 6 Jun 1797 Billerica, Mddlsx, Massac,

83. Paul CRAGIN - International Genealogical Index/MI

Gender: M Death: 1852 <>, Temple N.h. Prob.,

84. (Mrs.) (Caleb) CRAGUN - Ancestral File

Gender: F Birth/Christening: Abt 1751 Kirkten, Lans,

England

85. (Mrs.) Hannah Elsey CRAGUN - Ancestral File

Gender: F Birth/Christening: Abt 1754 Holland, Dutch,

Or, France

86. (Unknown) CRAGIN - Ancestral File

Gender: M Birth/Christening: Abt 1600 (unknown), ,

Scotland

87. Aaron Harrison CRAGIN - Ancestral File

Gender: M Birth/Christening: 3 Feb 1821 Weston, Vt

88. Aaron CRAGIN - Ancestral File

Gender: M Birth/Christening: 16 Apr 1772 Temple, Nh

89. Aaron CRAGIN - Ancestral File

Gender: M Birth/Christening: 31 Dec 1796 Weston, Vt

90. Abigail CRAGGEN - Ancestral File

Gender: F Birth/Christening: 4 Aug 1662 Woburn,

Middlesex, Massachusetts

91. Abigail CRAGUN - Ancestral File

Gender: F Birth/Christening: 17 Dec 1823 Brookville,

Franklin, In

92. Abigail CRAGIN - Ancestral File

Gender: F Birth/Christening: 7 Feb 1762 Littleton, Ma

93. Abigail CRAGGEN - Ancestral File

Gender: F Birth/Christening: 1655

94. Ada Adelaide Maria CREGAN - Ancestral File

Gender: F Birth/Christening: 30 Sep 1870 Braidwood,

N.s.w

95. Adalaide M CRAIGEN - Ancestral File

Gender: F Birth/Christening: 1841 White Twp, Indiana,

Pennsylvania

96. Adana A. CRAGIN - Ancestral File

Gender: M Birth/Christening: < 1821 Lagrange, Lorain,

Ohio

97. Adelaide CRAIGEN - Ancestral File

Gender: F Birth/Christening: < 1848 Hampshire Co.,

West Virginia

98. Adna CRAGIN - Ancestral File

Gender: F Birth/Christening: 25 Jun 1803 Weston, Vt

99. Adna A. CRAGIN - Ancestral File

Gender: F Birth/Christening: 26 Sep 1826 Weston, Vt

100. Albert Hill <CRAGIN> - Ancestral File

Gender: M Birth/Christening: 20 Feb 1845 Providence,

Ri

101. Algernon CRAGIN - Ancestral File

Gender: U Birth/Christening: 1 Mar 1848 Weston, Vt

102. Alice Jane CRAGIN - Ancestral File

Gender: F Birth/Christening: 17 Aug 1834 Peterborough,

, Nh

103. Alice CRAIGEN - Ancestral File

Gender: F Birth/Christening: < 1883 <, , Texas>

104. Alvina CREGAN - Ancestral File

Gender: F Birth/Christening: 15 May 1857 New York,

Kings, Ny

105. Amanda C. CRAGIN - Ancestral File

Gender: F Birth/Christening: 27 Feb 1838 Weston, Vt

106. Amelia Ellen CRAGUN - Ancestral File

Gender: F Birth/Christening: 9 Nov 1866 Smithfield,

Cache, Ut

107. Amos CRAGGIN - Ancestral File

Gender: M Birth/Christening: 4 Jan 1741 Mendon, Ma

108. Amos CRAGIN - Ancestral File

Gender: M Birth/Christening: < 1743 <Mendon,

Worcester, Massachussetts>

109. Elisha Cragun - Pedigree Resource File

Gender: M Birth/Christening: 3 Aug 1849 On the Plains

in, Nb

110. Caleb CRAGUN - Pedigree Resource File

Gender: M Birth/Christening: abt 1700 England

111. Patrick CRAGUN - Pedigree Resource File

Gender: M Birth/Christening: abt 1725 ? Ireland

112. Caleb CRAGUN - Pedigree Resource File

Gender: M Birth/Christening: bet 1700 and 1720 "Of",

Ireland Or, Scotland

113. Caleb CRAGUN - Pedigree Resource File

Gender: M Birth/Christening: bet 1700 and 1720 "Of",

Ireland Or, Scotland

114. John CRAGGENS CRAGIN CRAGGEN - Pedigree Resource

File

Gender: M Birth/Christening: 1634 Scotland

115. Patrick CRAGUN - Pedigree Resource File

Gender: M Birth/Christening: 1748 Ireland, Or,

Scotland

116. Patrick CRAGUN - Pedigree Resource File

Gender: M Birth/Christening: 1748 Ireland, Or,

Scotland

117. Abigail CRAGUN - Pedigree Resource File

Gender: F Birth/Christening: 17 Dec 1823 Brookville,

Franklin, IN

118. Abigail CRAGUN - Pedigree Resource File

Gender: F Birth/Christening: 17 Dec 1823 Brookville,

Franklin, IN

119. Abigal Cragun - Pedigree Resource File

Gender: F Birth/Christening: 17 Dec 1823 , Franklin,

In

120. Abigail CRAGGEN - Pedigree Resource File

Gender: F Birth/Christening: 4 Aug 1662 Woburn,

Middlesex, Massachusetts

121. Anna CRAGGEN - Pedigree Resource File

Gender: F Birth/Christening: 6 Aug 1673 Woburn,

Middlesex, Massachusetts

122. Dorothy May Cragin - Pedigree Resource File

Gender: F Birth/Christening: 28 Oct 1907 Lawrence,

Essex, MA

123. Edmund CRAGUN - Pedigree Resource File

Gender: M Birth/Christening: abt 1868 Pleasant View,

Weber, Utah

124. Edmund CRAGUN - Pedigree Resource File

Gender: M Birth/Christening: 19 Mar 1882 Pleasant

View, Weber, UT

125. Edmund CRAGUN - Pedigree Resource File

Gender: M Birth/Christening: abt 1868 Pleasant View,

Weber, Utah

126. Edmund CRAGUN - Pedigree Resource File

Gender: M Birth/Christening: 19 Mar 1882 Pleasant

View, Weber, UT

127. Edmund CRAGUN - Pedigree Resource File

Gender: M Birth/Christening: 19 Mar 1882 North Ogden,

Weber, Utah

128. Elisha CRAGUN - Pedigree Resource File

Gender: M Birth/Christening: 22 Feb 1786 Either In

Russell Co., Va Or Sullivan Co., TN

129. Elisha CRAGUN - Pedigree Resource File

Gender: M Birth/Christening: 22 Feb 1786 Either In

Russell Co., Va Or Sullivan Co., TN

130. Elisha Cragun - Pedigree Resource File

Gender: M Birth/Christening: 22 Feb 1786 , Sullivan

Co., Tn

131. Elizabeth CRAGGEN - Pedigree Resource File

Gender: F Birth/Christening: 3 Aug 1666 Woburn,

Middlesex, Massachusetts

132. Elizabeth CRAGUN - Pedigree Resource File

Gender: F Birth/Christening: 1 May 1799 , Sullivan, TN

133. Elizabeth CRAGUN - Pedigree Resource File

Gender: F Birth/Christening: 1 May 1799 , Sullivan, TN

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Date:        Fri, 14 Apr 2000 11:50:05 -0700 (PDT) From:  Caoimhghin O Croidheain caoimhghin@yahoo.com>   Subject  [CRYAN] mormon list 5  To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

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1. Martain CRYAN -

International Genealogical Index/AS

Gender: M Birth: 13 Jul 1852 <Rawul, Pindee>, West

Bengal, India

2. Andrew CRYAN - International Genealogical Index/BI

Gender: M Birth: 28 Oct 1865 0102, Boyle, Roscommon,

Ireland

3. Ann CRYAN - International Genealogical Index/BI

Gender: F Marriage: 2 Oct 1861 Irvine, Ayr, Scotland

4. Ann CRYAN - International Genealogical Index/BI

Gender: F Marriage: 13 Oct 1850 Glasgow, Lanark,

Scotland

5. Anna CRYAN - International Genealogical Index/BI

Gender: F Christening: 8 Jul 1866 Roman Catholic,

Breedogue And Ballinameen, Roscommon, Ireland

6. Anna Magdalene CRYAN - International Genealogical

Index/BI

Gender: F Christening: 20 Sep 1840 Mount St. Marie

Catholic, Bradford, Yorkshire, England

7. Annam CRYAN - International Genealogical Index/BI

Gender: F Christening: 9 Oct 1841 Roman Catholic,

Kilbride Parish, Roscommon, Ireland

8. Annam CRYAN - International Genealogical Index/BI

Gender: F Marriage: 17 Feb 1853 Roman Catholic,

Ardcarn And Tuamna, Roscommon, Ireland

9. Anne CRYAN - International Genealogical Index/BI

Gender: F Birth: 22 May 1866 0148, Castleplunket,

Roscommon, Ireland

10. Anne CRYAN - International Genealogical Index/BI

Gender: F Birth: 27 Jun 1866 0090, Ballinameen,

Roscommon, Ireland

11. Anne CRYAN - International Genealogical Index/BI

Gender: F Birth: 8 Jul 1866 0096, Boyle With

Ballinafad, Roscommon, Ireland

12. Anne CRYAN - International Genealogical Index/BI

Gender: F Birth: 2 Sep 1865 0310, Ballymote, Sligo,

Ireland

13. Barnard CRYAN - International Genealogical

Index/BI

Gender: M Marriage: 2 Mar 1835 Cathedral, Manchester,

Lancashire, England

14. Bartholomew CRYAN - International Genealogical

Index/BI

Gender: M Marriage: 1 Aug 1865 Edinburgh Parish,

Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland

15. Beesy CRYAN - International Genealogical Index/BI

Gender: F Birth: 28 May 1865 0337, Ballymote, Sligo,

Ireland

16. Bernardum CRYAN - International Genealogical

Index/BI

Gender: M Marriage: 16 Feb 1863 Roman Catholic,

Cootehall, Roscommon, Ireland

17. Bernardum CRYAN - International Genealogical

Index/BI

Gender: M Marriage: 26 Jun 1832 Roman Catholic,

Aghanagh, Sligo, Ireland

18. Bernardus CRYAN - International Genealogical

Index/BI

Gender: M Christening: 16 Dec 1876 Roman Catholic,

Breedogue And Ballinameen, Roscommon, Ireland

19. Bessy CRYAN - International Genealogical Index/BI

Gender: F Birth: 2 Feb 1866 0126, Gurteen District,

Sligo, Ireland

20. Biddy CRYAN - International Genealogical Index/BI

Gender: F Birth: 11 Jan 1866 0595, Coolaney, Sligo,

Ireland

21. Bridget CRYAN - International Genealogical

Index/BI

Gender: F Birth: 2 Dec 1864 0235, Longford, Longford,

Ireland

22. Bridget CRYAN - International Genealogical

Index/BI

Gender: F Birth: 16 Dec 1865 0495, Lowpark, Mayo,

Ireland

23. Bridget CRYAN - International Genealogical

Index/BI

Gender: F Marriage: 9 Feb 1845 Killedan, Mayo, Ireland

24. Bridget CRYAN - International Genealogical

Index/BI

Gender: F Birth: 12 Nov 1873 Hutchesontown, Glasgow,

Lanark, Scotland

25. Bridget CRYAN - International Genealogical

Index/BI

Gender: F Birth: 31 Jan 1865 0095, Boyle, Roscommon,

Ireland

26. Bridget CRYAN - International Genealogical

Index/BI

Gender: F Birth: 9 Aug 1866 0092, Boyle, Roscommon,

Ireland

27. Ann CRYAN - International Genealogical Index/NA

Gender: F Birth: Abt. 1822 Middletown, Orange, New

York

28. Ann CRYAN - International Genealogical Index/NA

Gender: F Marriage: Abt. 1843 Middletown, Orange, New

York

29. Armour CRYAN - International Genealogical Index/NA

Gender: M Birth: Abt. 1890 Belleville, Hastings,

Ontario

30. Austin CRYAN - International Genealogical Index/NA

Gender: M Birth: Abt. 1852 Matilda, Dundas, Ontario

31. Bridget CRYAN - International Genealogical

Index/NA

Gender: F Marriage: 28 Nov 1882 Columbiana, Ohio

32. Elizabeth CRYAN - International Genealogical

Index/NA

Gender: F Marriage: 7 Jan 1849 Saint Gregory

Mission-Roman Catholic, Ontario, Ontario

33. Ellen CRYAN - International Genealogical Index/NA

Gender: F Birth: Abt. 1850 Matilda, Dundas, Ontario

34. Florence CRYAN - International Genealogical

Index/NA

Gender: F Birth: 14 Jan 1876 New York, New York

35. GEORGE ARMOUR CRYAN - International Genealogical

Index/NA

Gender: M Birth: 12 Mar 1890 Of Madoc Junction, ,

Ontario

36. George Armour CRYAN - International Genealogical

Index/NA

Gender: M Birth: 1890 <>, , Ontario

37. HATTIE PEARL EUSTATIA CRYAN - International

Genealogical Index/NA

Gender: F Marriage: Abt. 1909 Of, , Ontario

38. HATTIE PEARL EUSTATIA CRYAN - International

Genealogical Index/NA

Gender: F Birth: 12 Jun 1892 Of Madoc Junction, ,

Ontario

39. JAMES CRYAN - International Genealogical Index/NA

Gender: M Birth: 1858 Ontario

40. JAMES CRYAN - International Genealogical Index/NA

Gender: M Birth: Abt. 1857 Of Madoc Junction, ,

Ontario

41. JAMES CRYAN - International Genealogical Index/NA

Gender: M Marriage: Abt. 1884 Of Madoc Junction, ,

Ontario

42. James CRYAN - International Genealogical Index/NA

Gender: M Birth: Abt. 1854 Matilda, Dundas, Ontario

43. James CRYAN - International Genealogical Index/NA

Gender: M Birth: 1834 Taunton, Bristol, Massachusetts

44. James Albert CRYAN - International Genealogical

Index/NA

Gender: M Marriage: 17 Oct 1872 <>, New York, New York

45. James Henry CRYAN - International Genealogical

Index/NA

Gender: M Birth: 1860 Bloomfield Twp, Essex, New

Jersey

46. John CRYAN - International Genealogical Index/NA

Gender: M Birth: 1842 Taunton, Bristol, Massachusetts

47. John CRYAN - International Genealogical Index/NA

Gender: M Birth: 10 Sep 1859 Bloomfield Twp, Essex,

New Jersey

48. Joseph CRYAN - International Genealogical Index/NA

Gender: M Birth: Abt. 1864 Matilda, Dundas, Ontario

49. Lucy CRYAN - International Genealogical Index/NA

Gender: F Birth: Abt. 1856 Matilda, Dundas, Ontario

50. MIKE CRYAN - International Genealogical Index/NA

Gender: M Marriage: 7 Sep 1892 Frenchville, Clfd,

Pennsylvania

51. Margaret CRYAN - International Genealogical

Index/NA

Gender: F Birth: 2 Dec 1857 Bloomfield Twp, Essex, New

Jersey

52. James CRYAN - International Genealogical Index/SP

Gender: M Birth: 28 Apr 1858 Horton District,

Tasmania, Australia

53. Albert Newell CRYAN - Ancestral File

Gender: M Birth/Christening: 25 May 1874 New York, New

York

54. Ann CRYAN - Ancestral File

Gender: F Birth/Christening: < 1822 <Middletown,

Rockland, New York>

55. Austin CRYAN - Ancestral File

Gender: M Birth/Christening: < 1870 <Cayuga, N. D.>

56. Farrell CRYAN - Ancestral File

Gender: M Birth/Christening: 1831 , Modedean,

Roscommon, Ireland

57. Florence CRYAN - Ancestral File

Gender: F Birth/Christening: 14 Jan 1876 New York, New

York

58. Florence Margaret CRYAN - Ancestral File

Gender: F Birth/Christening: 29 Feb 1896 Cayuga, N. D.

59. George Armour Cryan CRYAN - Ancestral File

Gender: M Birth/Christening: 12 Mar 1890 Madoc

Junction, , Ontario

60. Hattie Pearl Eustatia CRYAN - Ancestral File

Gender: F Birth/Christening: 12 Jun 1892 Madoc

Junction, , Ontario

61. Henrietta CRYAN - Ancestral File

Gender: F Birth/Christening: Abt 1852 Of Sophiasburg,

Prince Edward, Ontario

62. James CRYAN - Ancestral File

Gender: M Birth/Christening: Abt 1857 Madoc Junction,

, Ontario

63. James Albert CRYAN - Ancestral File

Gender: M Birth/Christening: 4 Jan 1844 Middletown,

Rockland, New York

64. James Henry CRYAN - Ancestral File

Gender: M Birth/Christening: 1860 Bloomfield, Essex

Co, Nj

65. John CRYAN - Ancestral File

Gender: M Birth/Christening: 10 Sep 1859 Bloomfield,

Essex Co, Nj

66. John CRYAN - Ancestral File

Gender: M Birth/Christening: 1825 Ire

67. Joseph CRYAN - Ancestral File

Gender: M Birth/Christening: 1866 Nj

68. Lucy CRYAN - Ancestral File

Gender: F Birth/Christening: Abt 1902 , , Ne

69. Margaret (Maggie) CRYAN - Ancestral File

Gender: F Birth/Christening: 2 Dec 1857 W Bloomfield,

Essex Co, Ny

70. Marie F. CRYAN - Ancestral File

Gender: F Birth/Christening: 1895 , , Ne

71. Mary CRYAN - Ancestral File

Gender: F Birth/Christening: < 1900

72. Mrs. CRYAN - Ancestral File

Gender: F Birth/Christening: Abt 1809 , Of Modedean,

Roscommon, Ireland

73. Patrick CRYAN - Ancestral File

Gender: M Birth/Christening: 1869 Nj

74. Patrick CRYAN - Ancestral File

Gender: M Birth/Christening: Abt 1805 , Of Modedean,

Roscommon, Ireland

75. Patrick F. CRYAN - Ancestral File

Gender: M Birth/Christening: 1865 , , Canada

76. Patrick W. CRYAN - Ancestral File

Gender: M Birth/Christening: 16 Sep 1898 , , Ne

77. Thomas CRYAN - Ancestral File

Gender: M Birth/Christening: 15 Jan 1856 Bloomfield,

Essex Co, Nj

78. Cregan Ancestry - Web Sites

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Bronx , NY      (718)597-6592   Search Public Records

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Date:    Fri, 14 Apr 2000 12:21:49 -0700 (PDT)  From:   Caoimhghin O Croidheain <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>   Subject:   [CRYAN] lists again   To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

hiI sent a list which I think was too large for the list

so I had to resend it as 3, 3a 3c etc but if it turns

up you will see a large 'list 3' Maybe Leslie might know what is the maximum size an

email can be for the list?caoimhghin

 

Reply-to:      "FamSpack" < >   From:    "FamSpack" < > 

      To:         "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>

  Subject:         John CRYAN and Margaret DOLAN Date:         Wed, 19 Apr 2000 00:46:35 +0100

Hi , I have been continuing with the 1901 census. I was obliged to give

upfinishing my first film as I reached Croghan townland but have just

returnedto it. I quickly looked at the rest of the film for any likely CRYANs

andcame across the following , not in Croghan village/town as you expected

butin Killapogue townland just to the south of Croghan.

John CRYAN aged 63 Ex Nat Sch teacher/married, Margaret aged 58

wife,MaryJane aged 32 Nat teacher, Kate aged 25, MaggieA aged 22,

Jonnieaged 20,BridgetJ aged 17.

The house is number 8 on the list out of about 14 in Killapogue(1901

censusspelling) or Killappoge(on the OS map)

From the introduction I could deduce that it had 4 rooms, 3 windows on

thefront, a roof of slate, iron or tiles and walls of stone brick or

concrete.There are no outbuildings reported.

The house was owned at this time by Guy Lloyd (I have picked him up as

living in Croghan townland).

From the entries in the parish registers they do not remember their

ageswell.The children I have as MaryJane bapt 9 Oct 1859 ie 42

Catherine(Kate I presume) bapt 14 Aug 1868 ie aged 33

MargaretAnne(MaggieA I presume) born 14 March 1874 ie aged 27

John(Jonnie) born 11 June 1876 ie aged 25

BridgetJ bapt 10 Aug 1882 ie aged 19

However it is easily and often done .

However too it give John - father of the family as born in or about

1838and Margaret Dolan as born about 1843

I do not have a suggestion of John's parents yet  but will keep looking

foryou .Until again Eve

 

Date:    Wed, 19 Apr 2000 02:24:22 -0700 (PDT)   From:  Caoimhghin O Croidheain <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>   Subject:        [CRYAN] Re: John CRYAN and Margaret DOLAN

     To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

-hiThanks very much for that  -I would be very interested

in your suggestions for John's parents- I have been

given one with as far as I remember - two brothers

both born in Croghan and a John born in Boyle. The

father a John and the mother a Drury - as was one of

the witnesses to John and Margarets wedding. I found

the year in which John started paying rent on the

schoolhouse in the valuation records-  1889 - and

checked the Roscommon Herald for any mentions. I found

the tenders advert but no subsequent mentions. As I

know for definite that he was in that school and lived

in Killapogue( also place on death cert) till he died

in 1905,  I will read all the Heralds until 1905. As

before I will post any mentions of any cryans as I

find them.Like your reading the census returns, any progress

will be slow and tedious at this stage!!!

Thanks again Caoimhghin

 

From:   MaryLDunn@aol.com  | Date:    Thu, 20 Apr 2000 19:20:54 EDT Subject:        Now is the time. Reunion Deadline coming up.   To:        ROSCOMMON-L@rootsweb.com

The Ballykilcline Reunion 2000 registration period goes down to the

wire in the next couple of weeks. If you plan to attend the Reunion this

year, now is the time to do something about it. The deadline is May 10 to

register for the weekend program. This Reunion may be of interest to anyone

interested in Famine history , especially that of Roscommon and nearby areas in

Leitrim and Longford.    Come hear Robert Scally discuss his work on The End of Hidden

Ireland. Hear Msgr. Kevin Flanagan, a native of Kilglass, talk about the Famine

there. Listen to author/archivist Timothy Meagher talk about the Famine

emigration experience and Ann Helen Riley tell what your emigrants encountered

when they first got to America. Catherine Shannon will tell us what emigration

did to Ireland. Ed Finn and Laurie McDonough will talk about the uses, and

maybe abuses, and future direction of the Leitrim-Roscommon board and

Internet research. And a speaker from the Lowell Irish community will tell its

history.     While you’re planning, stay on for the Lowell Folk Festival, the

biggest in the northeast; do research at the New England Historic Genealogical

Society in Boston and the National Archives in Waltham; see the sites

in Boston, Concord, Lexington, and Lowell ... go on to the beach in Cape

Cod, Hampton Beach (NH) ...

Ballykilcline in AmericaThe Ballykilcline Society Reunion 2000

July 21-23, 2000            Lowell, Massachusetts

Register by May 10, 2000

    The Society is an association of descendants of the Irish families

evicted from the townland of Ballykilcline, County Roscommon, in 1847

and people of related surnames (listed below) from surrounding Kilglass

Parish and people interested in Kilglass history. The Ballykilcline story is

told in Robert Scally’s book, The End of Hidden Ireland.

The Reunion, Friday to Sunday, will encompass:

  • Opening Session on Friday afternoon at Middlesex Community

College. The

Speaker is             

    Msgr. Kevin Flanagan, a Native of Kilglass Parish and a Famine

Student

    • Pub Night -- Dinner Friday Night at The Brewhouse in Lowell.

    • Saturday Speakers Program and Lunch at Middlesex Community

College

    • Saturday Evening Banquet. The Speaker is Dr. Robert J. Scally,

Author

of The End of                  

    Hidden Ireland, and Entertainment is planned. DoubleTree Hotel,

Lowell.

    • Sunday Brunch and Program at Cobblestone’s Restaurant (location

depends

on sufficient numbers)

    The entire Reunion Weekend program is $130.00 a person, covering

registration (speakers’ presentations, entertainment, etc.) and four

meals. The registration period will be open until May 10 only. Space is

limited, so register early!

     If seats are still available for the Saturday night banquet after

May 10, reservations for attendance at the banquet ONLY will be taken until

June 15 while seats are available. Professor and Author Robert Scally will

speak there. Entertainment is planned. Banquet reservations will be $40.00 a

person for those who are NOT registered for the full Reunion Weekend program.

Reunion Weekend Guest Speakers

(in alphabetical order)

    • Ed Finn of New Jersey who collaborates with Laurie McDonough to

produce the popular Leitrim-            Roscommon Internet Web Site

    • Msgr. Kevin Flanagan of New Jersey, a native of Kilglass Parish,

County Roscommon, participant in           and facilitator of Reunion ‘99, who

is a student of The Great Famine

    • Laurie McDonough of Rhode Island who collaborates with Ed Finn to

produce the popular Leitrim-            Roscommon Web Site

    • David McKean, archivist of St. Patrick’s Parish in Lowell (or

another speaker from the local Irish            community).

    • Dr. Timothy Meagher of Washington, DC, archivist and museum

director at Catholic University of          America, co-editor of The New York

Irish, editor of From Paddy to Studs and Urban American           

Catholicism: The Culture and Identity of the American Catholic People. He has a new book        

        coming out this year about the Irish in Worcester, MA.

    • Ann Helen Riley, a Ballykilcline Society member (a Riley-Colgan

descendant) who is a visiting lecturer     

    at Providence College and lectures at Rhode Island College; she is

a history and American Studies            teacher at North Providence High School

    • Dr. Robert James Scally of New York, author of The End of Hidden

Ireland, who is a history professor             at New York University

and academic director of  NYU’s well known Glucksman Ireland House.

    • Dr. Catherine Shannon, Westfield State professor whose specialty

is Irish history; she received the ‘94         Achievement Award from the

Boston Irish Immigration Center; author of  “Women in Northern            

    Ireland” in the book Chattel, Servants, and Citizens.

    A Ballykilcline Reunion ‘99 Video of last year’s visit in Kilglass

Parish, Roscommon, Ireland will be screened and be available for

purchase during the Reunion. A group photograph will be taken of Reunion-Goers

2000. And check out the Ballykilcline display in the window of the downtown

Barnes & Noble!

    Members will discuss where the tenant farmers of Ballykilcline

settled in America and how they fared there. Author Scally will describe his work

on The End of Hidden Ireland. Other speakers will focus on Kilglass’ Famine

Experience at the time of the Ballykilcline evictions; Irish emigration

and identity in America; the effect of emigration on Ireland; the U.S. when

the Ballykilcline immigrants arrived here; Internet family history

research; and the Irish in Lowell.

Places to Stay    You must make your own hotel or motel reservations; they are NOT

included in the Reunion package. In some cases, as with AAA and Senior Citizens’

discounts, early registration may ensure lower rates. Inquire about the

discounts. Local hotels are:    • The DoubleTree Hotel in downtown Lowell. Call 1-800 -876-4586 for

reservations.    • The Courtyard Marriott in Lowell. Call 1-800-321-2211 for

reservations.    • The Radisson Hotel in nearby Chelmsford. Call 1-800-333-3333 for

reservations.    • The Best Western Chelmsford Inn.  Call 1-800-528-1234 for

reservations.Chelmsford is adjacent to Lowell and the listed hotels are within 3-5

miles of downtown. The DoubleTree is connected to the main Reunion meeting

site at Middlesex Community College by a walkway across a canal.

    All Reunion events are situated within roughly an 8-block area in

downtown Lowell. Places to See

    Visits to local museums and historical venues are not included in

the registration and are not formally a part of the program since time is

so short. But you are encouraged to fit them in around the Reunion program

as your time and interests allow. Many are well worth a visit and some of

them charge only nominal entrance fees.

    Historical and visitors’ sites in Lowell include the National

Heritage Park, the American Textile Museum, the Boott Cotton Mills Museum, the

Tsongas

Industrial History Center, the New England Quilt Museum, and the

Whistler House Museum of Art. Your Reunion welcome packet will contain brochures

about the city’s amenities. The City of Lowell’s web site is at

www.ci.lowell.ma.us/

    Nearby, in Lexington, is the Museum of Our National Heritage. You

also will be only a short ride from historic Concord, famous for its role in

the American Revolution.

    Also, consider attending the annual Lowell Folk Festival, the

biggest in the northeast, which will be held July 28-30, a few days after the

Ballykilcline Reunion. It draws top talent, including Irish performers,

and enthusiastic crowds to city streets when all of downtown becomes a

street fest.  Places for Research

    Visits to genealogy research facilities -- such as the New England

Historic Genealogical Society in Boston and the National Archives in

Waltham -- also should be fitted in around the formal Reunion program. A

commuter train runs from the Gallagher Terminal in Lowell to North Station in

Boston, about a 45-minute ride. Waltham is about a 20-minute ride from Lowell

but check the Archives’ hours before you go.

Travel Tips      From Logan Airport, you can take a van line directly to Lowell.

Suggested van line:      M& L Van Lines, telephone, in Massachusetts, is 1-781-938-8123.

       From elsewhere, dial 1-800-225-4846.

Or take a taxi to North Station in Boston and the commuter train from

North Station to the Gallagher Terminal in Lowell where you can get your

hotel’s shuttle or a taxi to your lodgings.

TO REGISTER    The deadline for Reunion Weekend 2000 Registration is May 10.

Payments are non-refundable.

     To register, print and fill out the form below OR clearly write out

the required information and mail it, along with your check for $130.00 per

person made out to Mary Lee Dunn, to

    Mary Lee Dunn

    The Ballykilcline Society

    9 Mansur St.

    North Chelmsford, MA  01863

The payment covers Friday dinner, Saturday lunch and dinner, and Sunday

brunch. Contact Mary Lee Dunn at MaryLDunn@aol.com or telephone her at

1-978-251-3733 if you require additional information. (Best time to

telephone: 6-9 p.m. Massachusetts time!)

 

SURNAMES FROM BALLYKILCLINE

    The evictees’ surnames are Brennan, Carlon (Carlin), Carrington,

Caveney,

Cline, Colgan (Colligan), Connor, Costello, Croghan, Deffely (Deffley),

Donlan, Fallon, Farrell, Finne (Finn), Fox, Gallagher, Geenty (Ginty),

Gill,

Hanly (Hanley), Hoare, Kelly, McCormack (McCormick), McDermott,

McDonnell,

McGann (McGanne), Mcmanus, Madden, Magan, Maguire, Moran, Mullera,

Narry

(Neary), O’Neal (ONeill), Padian, Quinn, Reynolds, Stewart (Stuart),

Winters,

and Wynne. These other names also were present in the townland:

Carolan,

Clements, Cline, Coyle, Downey, Fitzmaurice, Foley, Lloyd, McDaniel,

O’Beirne

(Beirne, Burns), Riley (Reilly), and Toolan.

 

From:        Fatarm@aol.com  |    Date:        Tue, 25 Apr 2000 16:20:19 EDT Subject:        Re: subscribe - Welcome!     To:        ccryan2@yahoo.com    CC:        caoimhghin@yahoo.com

Welcome!  You should have received the auto-generated message from

rootsweb confirming your subscription by now.  If not, please email me asap, and

I'll make sure the snafu is fixed.

I'm the list administrator -- feel free to email me directly or through

the list with complaints, suggestions, advice or questions.  It's my job to

make sure the list runs smoothly -- not a problem, with this group. 

Everyone's very friendly and helpful.

There are presently more than 60 subscribers to the list, and we've

been "up/online" for about 20 months.  Subscribers live all around the

world, from New Zealand and Australia through North America and the British Isles. 

I think it was Churchill who said '[English speakers are] a people

separated by a common language':  it's nice to think that we're reunited through a

common interest in our roots!

We're not all researching the same surnames, but because of spelling

variations and overlap between the surnames Creaghan, O'Crean and

MacCroghan, it makes sense to share a mailing list for the time being as we all

launch our online research efforts.  Shortly I'll be sending out through the

list an updated history on our surnames -- I ask that you wait for the new

version to further explain this point (the old one is looking sad!).

In the meantime, I hope you will jump right in and post your line of

inquiry to the group by emailing an introduction message to

"Cryan-L@rootsweb.com"

(w/o quotes).  In the event (very remote, I hope) you wish to

unsubscribe, email "Cryan-L-request@rootsweb.com" with the sole word "unsubscribe"

in the message body (w/o quotes, again).  You may find a distant relation

already subscribed, or be able to tap into the resources that several of our

more experienced researchers have collected.  There are no special formats,

only the requirement that conversation be at least remotely in aid of better

understanding our roots.So enjoy, have fun, and hopefully get and give some valuable

information along the way!  -Leslie Poche', Washington, D.C.Date:

       

Thu, 27 Apr 2000 10:36:26 +1200  From:  Gilbert Raymond <gilr@xtra.co.nz>  | Block address

 Subject:        INTERPRETING IRISH RECORDS   To:   ROSCOMMON-L@rootsweb.com

Greetings Listers,

I was recently looking at an LDS microfilm No. 100216 entitled:

Ireland, Roscommon, Genealogy: Record of Athlone & District 1600-1900.

The main volume was no. 678.  Within it were a number of smaller

subsections, one of which was a List of Names.  This was further

dividedinto 4 Volumes and in Volume 3 1850-1884 (Page 85) I found Miss

Farrington and her Sister Cecilia with the reference P.376 beside their

names.  I couldn't find anything of relevance on Page 376.

Is anyone familiar with this document who could tell me more about it,

and whether P. 376 refers to some other record?

I would be grateful for any assistance.Gil

 Thu, 27 Apr 2000 10:36:26 +1200  From:  Gilbert Raymond <gilr@xtra.co.nz>  | Block address

 Subject:        INTERPRETING IRISH RECORDS   To:   ROSCOMMON-L@rootsweb.com

Greetings Listers,

I was recently looking at an LDS microfilm No. 100216 entitled:

Ireland, Roscommon, Genealogy: Record of Athlone & District 1600-1900.

The main volume was no. 678.  Within it were a number of smaller

subsections, one of which was a List of Names.  This was further

dividedinto 4 Volumes and in Volume 3 1850-1884 (Page 85) I found Miss

Farrington and her Sister Cecilia with the reference P.376 beside their

names.  I couldn't find anything of relevance on Page 376.

Is anyone familiar with this document who could tell me more about it,

and whether P. 376 refers to some other record?

I would be grateful for any assistance.Gil

 

From:        "twobests" <twobests@email.msn.com>  |  Subject:        Web site for ships with oscommon passengers   Date:        Fri, 28 Apr 2000 22:27:13 -0400     To:        ROSCOMMON-L@rootsweb.com

Have just found a site that has passenger lists for 5 ships from

Roscommonto New York via Liverpool, for the years 1847-48.  These might not be

applicable for your people (not mine) but the whole site has quite a

bit ofinformation.  For the ships just click on the Irish site.  The complete

siteis http://freespace.virgin.net/alan.tupman/sites/ships.htm

To get right to the Irish ships listed use irish instead of ships. 

Happy

hunting-gretchen

 

Date:        Sat, 29 Apr 2000 04:43:35 -0700 (PDT)   From:    Caoimhghin O Croidheain <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>  | Subject:        [CRYAN] Ship lists     To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Hi the following links were searched for 'cr' and found

the following references. Very few for such a long list!

 

"Independance"

A List of Passengers of the Ship INDEPENDANCE who have

contracted to take their Passage to New York in the

said ship being of the burthen of 300 Tons and

upwards, Mathias Fleming, Master, sworn at

Londonderry, 31st. October, 1803.

 

Luke Creyon             20     Labourer         Sligo

Roger Creyon            18     Labourer         Sligo

 

"St. George"

List of Passengers on Ship ST. GEORGE from Liverpool

to New York, 8 April, 1847.

 

Martin Crane

 

"Roscius"

List of Passengers from County Roscommon to New York

via Liverpool on Ship ROSCIUS, 19 September, 1847.

 

Patrick Croghan               28

John Croghan                  24

Margaret Croghan              26

 

http://freespace.virgin.net/alan.tupman/sites/irish.html

Sites with Genealogical Source Material

 

Irish Passenger Lists

These are passenger lists for emigrants from Ireland

to the United States and Canada, arranged in date

order. Please note that this is not the complete set

of sailings, and that some of the lists shown may be

incomplete. If you do not find your ancestor here, you

should check other sources. If you do find them then

we are happy to have helped in your search.If you will pardon the awful pun, these lists

represent merely a drop in the ocean.See also the main Emigrants page for lots of other

links.For those looking for emigrants to the USA, you should

check out the National Archives and Records

Administration pages, which will give information on

how to obtain microfilm records of passenger arrivals.

There are also two Mailing Lists which you should

consider joining: GENIRE which discusses all aspects

of Genealogy in any part of Northern Ireland and The

Republic of Ireland, and The Ships List which has some

really helpful folk who seem to know most things about

Ships and emigration/immigration.

In either case, you should put the word "subscribe"

(without the quotes) in the Body of the message - the

mail addresses shown will get you the Digest version

of these Lists.And now, the lists

 

"St. George" of England, sailed from Portsmouth on

7th. October 1677, to Maryland, via Waterford,

Ireland.

"Encrease" Master, Philip Poplestone, from Youghal,

County Cork, to Maryland, sworn March 1679.

Ireland to Boston, Massachusetts - passengers on 18

ships from 1716 to 1779.

"Hannah" Cavenough Master, from Cork, destination

unknown, 11th. September 1764.

"Freemason" from Cork, destination unknown, arrived

27th. December 1764.

"Willmott" from Cork on 15th. December 1766,

destination unknown.

"Ann and Margaret", destination unknown, 14th. October

1767.

"Mars" from Dublin 29 March 1803.

"Portland" for Charleston 29 March 1803.

"Eagle" for New York 29 March 1803.

"Neptune" Master, Seth Stevens, sailed for Newcastle

and Philadelphia from Warren Point, Newry 29 March

1803.

"Susan" from Dublin to New York April 5, 1803.

"American" Alexander Thompson, master, sworn at

Londonderry, 9 April 1803.

"Cornelia" of Portland, going to New York, sworn at

Londonderry, 15 April 1803.

"Rachel" Master, Benjamin Hale, to New York from Sligo

15 April 1803.

"Pennsylvania" Elhana Bray, Master, from Londonderry,

to Wilmington and Philadelphia, 16 April, 1803.

"Margaret" Master, Thomas Marsh, bound for New York

from Newry 18 April 1803.

"Edward" from Belfast to Philadelphia, 19 April 1803.

"Mohawk" John Barry Master, sworn at Londonderry, 23

April, 1803, bound for Philadelphia.

"Ardent" Richard Williams, master, bound for

Baltimore, sworn at Londonderry, 23 April 1803.

"Jefferson" James Adams, master, to New York from

Sligo, sworn 28 April, 1803.

"Serpent" of Baltimore, Archibald McCockell, master,

going to Baltimore and sworn at Londonderry, 30 April,

1803.

"Patty" sworn at Newry, 5 May 1803.

"Strafford" for Philadelphia, sworn at Londonderry, 14

May 1803.

"Active" for Philadelphia, sworn at Newry, 18th. May,

1803.

"Diana" bound for New York, sworn at Newry, 18th. May,

1803.

"Hopewell" sworn at Newry 6th. of June, 1803, and

bound for New York.

"Wilmington" Thomas Woodford, Master, from Belfast to

New York, sworn 9th. July 1803.

"George" of New Bedford, Jacob Taber master, for New

York, sworn at Dublin, 29 August 1803.

"Lady Washington" from Belfast to Charleston, sworn

22nd. September, 1803.

"Betsy" for New York, sworn at Newry, 22 September,

1803.

"Snow George" from Belfast to Philadelphia, sworn

22nd. September, 1803.

"Independance" for New York, Mathias Fleming, Master,

sworn at Londonderry, 31st. October, 1803.

"Venus" for Norfolk, America, sworn at Dublin, 14

November, 1803.

"George" of New Bedford, going to New York, sworn at

Belfast, 25th. February, 1804.

"Prudence" of Philadelphia, sworn at Dublin, 9 March

1804.

"Eagle" from New York, sworn at Belfast, 10 March,

1804.

"Susan" of and for New York, sworn at Dublin 28 March

1804.

unknown vessel from Sligo to New York, sworn 29 March,

1804.

"Alexis" - British Brig of Greenock, to Wilmington,

North Carolina, sworn 29 March 1804.

"Charles and Harriot" sworn at Sligo, 29 March 1804.

"Maria" of Wilmington, bound for Philadelphia, sworn

at Londonderry, 30 March 1804.

"American" from Londonderry to New York, sworn at

Londonderry, 31 March 1804.

"Brothers" of Philadelphia, sworn at Londonderry, 14

April 1804.

"Jane" of New Bedford (USA) for New York, sworn at

Dublin, 17 April 1804.

"Mary" of New Bedford to Philadelphia, sworn at

Dublin, 17 April 1804.

"President" of New Bedford from Newry for New Castle

in America, sworn 21 April 1804.

"Commerce" for Philadelphia, sworn 28 April, 1804.

"Diligence" of New Bedford for New York, sworn at

Dublin, 30 April 1804.

"Duncan" Abraham Sebson, Master, for New York, sworn

at Londonderry, 26th. May, 1804.

"Mechanic" from Dublin to Baltimore, 203 tons burden,

sworn 28th. May, 1804.

"Ceres" from Newry for New York, sworn 31st. May,

1804.

"Catherine" from the Port of Killybegs and bound for

New Castle and Philadelphia. Sworn at Ballyshannon,

9th. June, 1804.

"Atlantic" for Boston, sworn at Dublin, 19th. June,

1804.

"Live Oak" of Scarboro, Christopher Dyer, Master, to

New York, sworn at Londonderry, 23rd. June, 1804.

"Golconda" from Londonderry to New York in 1811.

"Harvey Hide" from Belfast to New York, 1811.

"Algernon" Clark, Master, from Belfast to New York,

18th. May, 1811.

"Orlando" Josiah Cromwell, Master, arrived in New

York, 19 May, 1811.

"Africa" John E. Scott, Master, from Belfast to New

York, arrived 9 June, 1811.

"Jupiter" William Hutchins, Master, from Belfast to

New York, 1st. June, 1811.

"Mary" Wallington, Master, from Londonderry, arrived

at Philadelphia, 17 June 1811.

"Huntress" Thomas Ronson, Master, from Dublin to New

York, arrived 24 June, 1811.

"Shamrock" McKeon, Master, from Dublin to New York, 6

July, 1811.

"Belisarius" from Dublin to New York, 6 July, 1811.

"Fame" Captain William Pollock, arrived at

Philadelphia from Derry, 31 August, 1811, in 63 days.

"Akin Alexander" from Londonderry to New York, 14th.

September, 1811.

"Maria Duplex" from Belfast to New York, 21 September,

1811.

"Protection" to New York, 28 September, 1811.

"White Oak" from Dublin to New York, 5 October, 1811.

"Harmony" Captain Hobkirk, Master, from Londonderry,

arrived at Philadelphia, 31 October, 1811, in 70 days.

"Erin" from Dublin to New York, 16 November, 1811.

"West Point" T. Holden Master, from Londonderry to New

York, 23 November, 1811.

"Hibernia" Graham Master, from Belfast to New York, 30

November, 1811.

"Abolus" from Newry to New York, 14 December, 1811.

"Alexander" Captain Fanning, Master, from Londonderry

to New York, 21 December, 1811.

"Mariner" from Londonderry, arrived at New-London, 21

December, 1811, in 48 days.

The Robinson Ships of 1825, from Cork to Canada,

including the "John Barry" , "Brunswick" , "Fortitude"

, "Star" and "Elizabeth"

"Toronto" from London to New York, 31 July, 1845.

"Warsaw" from Glasgow to New York, 1 August, 1845.

"Stephen Whitney" from Liverpool to New York, 1

August, 1845.

"Clyde" from Liverpool to New York, 2 August, 1845.

"St. George" from Liverpool to New York, 14 September,

1845.

"Ohio" from Liverpool to New York, 29 September, 1845.

"Sharon" from Liverpool to New York, 4 October, 1845.

"New York" from Liverpool to New York, 3 November,

1845.

"St. Patrick" from Liverpool to New York, 3 December,

1845.

"Stephen Whitney" from Liverpool to New York, 6 April,

1846.

"Junius" from Liverpool to New York, 1 May 1846.

"Perseverance" from Dublin, Ireland arrived at New

York 18th. May 1846.

"Clarence" from Galway, destination unknown, 19th. May

1846.

"Alhambra" from Dublin to New York, 1 June, 1846.

"Milicete" from Liverpool to New York, 13 July, 1846.

"St. George" from Liverpool to New York, 3 August,

1846.

"Saracen" from Glasgow to New York, 1 September, 1846.

"Panama" from Liverpool to New York, 12 October, 1846.

"John R. Skiddy" from Liverpool to New York, 4

November, 1846.

"Westminster" from Liverpool to New York, 4 December,

1846.

"American" from Liverpool to New York, 4 December,

1846.

"Ashburton" Master William Howland, sailed from

Liverpool on 22nd. January 1847 and arrived New York

on 26th. February 1847. (Courtesy of Bob O'Connor)

"Sardinia" from Liverpool to New York, 6 February,

1847.

"St. George" from Liverpool to New York, 8 April,

1847.

"Free Trader" from Cork to New York, 25 June, 1847.

"Emma Prescott" from Galway to New York, 10 August,

1847.

"Roscius" from County Roscommon to New York via

Liverpool, 19 September, 1847.

"Metoka" from County Roscommon to New York via

Liverpool, 26 September, 1847.

"Creole" from County Roscommon to New York via

Liverpool, 18 October, 1847.

"Yorkshire" from Liverpool to New York, 27 October,

1847.

"Lancashire" from Liverpool to New York, 13 December,

1847.

"Sarah Sands" from Liverpool to New York, 10 February,

1848.

"Channing" from County Roscommon to New York via

Liverpool, 13 March,1848.

"Sir Robert Peel" from Liverpool to New York, 30

March, 1848.

"Anglo American" A.H. Brown, Captain - partial list

for passengers from Liverpool to Boston, arriving 3

April, 1848. This USGenWEb page also includes partials

for the "Vixen", 20 September, 1849.

"Progress" County Roscommon to New York via Liverpool,

25 April, 1848.

"Constitution" from Belfast to New York, 8 May, 1848.

"Sea Bird" Galway to Quebec, 15 June 1848.

"Agenora" from Liverpool to New York, 10 July, 1848.

"Nicholas Biddle" from Liverpool to New York, 7

September, 1848.

"Intrinsic" from Liverpool to New York, 6 November,

1848.

"Glenmore" from Belfast to New York, 29 January, 1849.

"Cushla Machree" from Galway to New York, departed

1st. March 1849, with a crossing of 27 days.

"West Point" from Liverpool to New York, 6 March 1849.

"Emma Pearl" from Belfast to New York, 4 May 1849.

"Caractacus" from Galway to New York, 4 May, 1849.

"James" from Newry to New York, 10 May, 1849.

"John Bell" departed New Ross on 31st. March and

arrived Boston 14th. May 1849.

"Ann Harley" from Glasgow to New York, 29 May, 1849.

"W.H. Harbeck" from Liverpool to New York, 3 July,

1849.

"Northumberland" from Galway to Quebec, 17 August,

1849.

"St. Patrick" from Liverpool to New York, 3 September,

1849.

"Swan" from Cork to New York, 4 September, 1849.

"Columbus" from Cork via Liverpool to New York, 7

September, 1849.

"Maria" from Belfast to New York, 5 November, 1849.

"New World" from Liverpool to New York, 15 January,

1850.

"Bryan Abbs" from Limerick to New York, 7 March, 1850.

"Marchioness of Bute" from Newry to New York, 15 May

1850.

"Infantry" from Liverpool to New York, 29 July 1850.

"Adam Carr" from Glasgow to New York, 2 September,

1850.

"Isaac Wright" from Liverpool to New York, 1 November,

1850.

"Colonist" (also known as the "Colonial") from

Liverpool to New York, 23 January, 1851.

"William" from Westport to New York, 30 April, 1851.

"Victoria" from Limerick to New York, 23 August, 1851.

"Nathaniel G. Weeks" from London to New York, 1

November 1851.

"Roderick Dhu" from Liverpool to New York, 4 January,

1852.

"Odessa" from Dublin to New York, 2 April 1852.

"Rajah" from Liverpool and Tralee to New York,2

September, 1852.

"Marchioness of Clydesdale" from Glasgow (passengers

embarked at Greenock) to New York, 6 December, 1852.

"Columbia" from Liverpool to New York, 3 March, 1853.

"Princeton" from Liverpool to New York, 18 July, 1853.

"Telegraph" from Liverpool and Tralee to New York, 25

October, 1853.

"Herman Roosen" from Dublin to New York, 23 January,

1854.

"Star of the West" from Liverpool to New York, 3

April, 1854.

"William Tapscott" from Liverpool to New York, 14

August, 1854.

"Webster" from Liverpool to New York, 20 November,

1854.

"New World" from Liverpool to New York, 19 March,

1855.

"Katherine" from Belfast to New York, 1 June, 1855.

"Webster" from Liverpool to New York 3 September 1855.

"Isaac Webb" from Liverpool, arrived New York 14th.

July 1870.

"SS Lucania" - partial passenger list for voyage from

Ireland to New York in 1898.

"Germanic" - partial passenger list for voyage from

Queenstown, Ireland to New York in 1903.

"Haverford" H.M. Rhoads, Master, from Liverpool to

Philadelphia, departed 30th. March and arrived on

13th. April 1921.

 

Date:        Sat, 29 Apr 2000 04:49:46 -0700 (PDT)   From: Caoimhghin O Croidheain caoimhghin@yahoo.com>  | Subject: [CRYAN] Fwd: Web site for ships with Roscommon passengers

     To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

I am trying to send an email with the results of a

search on the ship lists for 'cr' but at 14k it might

be too big I might have to break it up and resend

caoimhghin

 

To: ROSCOMMON-L@rootsweb.com

Resent-From: ROSCOMMON-L@rootsweb.com

Have just found a site that has passenger lists for 5 ships from

Roscommonto New York via Liverpool, for the years 1847-48.  These might not be

applicable for your people (not mine) but the whole site has quite a

bit ofinformation.  For the ships just click on the Irish site.  The complete

siteis http://freespace.virgin.net/alan.tupman/sites/ships.htm

To get right to the Irish ships listed use irish instead of ships. 

Happyhunting-gretchen

 

Sat, 29 Apr 2000 05:27:58 -0700 (PDT)   From: Caoimhghin O Croidheain <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> 

 Subject:        [CRYAN] more ship lists  To:   CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

hianother search

http://www.pcug.org.au/~pdownes/dps/3rdflt.txt

The third fleet of 11 ships arrived in 1791, with over

 2000 convicts.  The newspaper report states that 194 male

convicts and 4  female  convicts  died  during the  voyage,  and

that  though conditions on board ship weren't as "diabolical" as

the  previous year, they were still outrageous.

     The  convicts from Ireland who arrived on board

the  "Queen" are not included in the newspaper lists.

     As before, the list was compiled in London as so

there is no way  of knowing which people died on the voyage out,

or  did  not leave England for any reason.

 

>From the "NEW HOLLAND MORNING POST", 18th October,

1791

A list of criminals who have come to our shores in

recent months

  Our  readers will find hereunder a List of Persons

transported as  Criminals to New South Wales in the Ships as

following,  via: Atlantic,  William  and  Ann,  Britannia,  Matilda, 

Salamander, Albemarle, Mary Anne, Admiral Barrington, Active and

Gorgon.

Name, Where Convicted                      Term

CRANE, Joseph, Suffolk  - - - - - - - - - - 7

 

http://istg.rootsweb.com/1800/omega18470524.html

PORT OF BOSTON

Ship Omega from Liverpool to Boston May 24, 1847

Copy of Report and List of the Passengers taken on

board the Ship Omega of Liverpool whereof D.R.Garrick

is Master, burthen 997 tons, and no/95ths of a ton,

bound from the (port) of Liverpool for Boston.*

Columns represent: Names. Age. Sex. Occupation*, Trade

or Profession. Country to which they severally

belong.*

Michael Cryon      40    male           Labourer  Ireland

 

http://istg.rootsweb.com/1800/intrinsic520714.html

Tralee Ireland to New York

14 July 1852

DISTRICT OF NEW YORK - PORT OF NEW YORK 

I, Jas McFarlane, do solemnly, sincerely and truly

swear that the following List or Manifest of

Passengers, subscribed with my name and now delivered

by me to the Collector of the Customs for the District

of New York, contains, to the best of my knowledge and

belief, a just and true account of all the Passengers

received on board the Brit. Bark Intrinsic whereof I

am Master, from Tralee Ireland. So help me God. James

McFarlane Sworn to this 14 July 1852 Before me

(illegible signature)

List or Manifest of ALL THE PASSENGERS taken on board

the Brit Bark Intrinsic which Jas McFarlane is Master,

from Tralee Ireland burthen 602 tons.

Columns represent number on manifest, name, age, sex,

occupation, the country to which they severally

belong, the country in which they intend to become

inhabitants. No passengers are noted as having died on

the voyage. Transcriber’s notes follow the list.

45 John        Creem*       27 M Laborer Servant

Ireland United States

Passenger #45-Surname may be Creem or Creen

 

http://istg.rootsweb.com/1800/dove18010608.html

Ship: Dove of Aberdeen Date: 8 June 1801 (Departure)

Departing:

Arriving: Pictou, Nova Scotia

Ship Master: William Crane

Size: 186/190 tons

 

From: "CorkWeb" <corkweb@irishabroad.com>  Subject: County Cork Ireland GenWeb   Date:

        Sun, 30 Apr 2000 05:46:54 -0400    To:        ROSCOMMON-L@rootsweb.com

For those who may also have relatives from County Cork and haven't

dropped by in the past month or so, we would like to welcome you to visit

us.We have over-hauled the site substantially. The surname query board now

has over 3600 on-line messages to search.Additionally, there are many useful on-line resource links havebeen added in the past month, both for Cork, Ireland, and genealogy in

general.

The address is http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlcor/

 

Date:        Sun, 30 Apr 2000 03:24:31 -0700 (PDT)   From:        Caoimhghin O Croidheain <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>  | Subject:        [CRYAN] naming patterns   To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Hi

Interesting link on naming patterns in Irish families:

http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlcor/Naming.html

Old Irish Naming Patterns

Sons

 1st son was named after the father's father

 2nd son was named after the mother's father

 3rd son was named after the father

 4th son was named after the father's eldest brother

Daughters

 1st daughter was named after the mother's mother

 2nd daughter was named after the father's mother

 3rd daughter was named after the mother

 4th daughter was named after the mother's eldest

sister

caoimhghin

 

Date:        Sun, 30 Apr 2000 03:52:04 -0700 (PDT)   From:   Caoimhghin O Croidheain <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>  Subject:        [CRYAN] Irish Flax Growers List, 1796

     To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Hi a bit all over the place but can be worked out!

Caoimhghin >From ancestry.com

[Are there any paid up members of ancestry.com who

could go through the 'paid' links and files for cryans

etc and post them on the list for the benefit of all

the researchers on cryan-l??? I am sure it would be

much appreciated.] caoimhghin

 

Search Results

Search Terms: CRYAN (5)

          Database: Irish Flax Growers List, 1796

          Combined Matches: 5

           ID  County  Surname  Given Name

           44610

                        Roscommon

                                              Cryan

                                                     

         Murtagh

           44971

                        Roscommon

                                              Cryan

                                                     

         Bryan

           44972

                        Roscommon

                                              Cryan

                                                     

         Owen

           47480

                        Sligo

                                              Cryan

                                                     

         Thady

           47869

                        Sligo

                                              Cryan

                                                      

         Conner

 

Viewing records 1-5 of 5

Send an email directly to theUlster Historical Foundation requesting information.

 

      Search Results

Search Terms: CREAN (3)

          Database: Irish Flax Growers List, 1796

          Combined Matches: 3

           ID

                         County

                                         Surname

                                                     

      Given Name

           22264

                         Kerry

                                         Crean

                                                     

      Edward

           22270

                         Kerry

                                         Crean

                                                     

      Peter

           22404

                         Kerry

                                         Crean

                                                      

      Michael                                        

 

Date:        Mon, 1 May 2000 08:34:24 -0700 (PDT)   From: Caoimhghin O Croidheain caoimhghin@yahoo.com>  | Subject:    [CRYAN] emails    To:     CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

HiThanks for sending those emails. The list has been

quiet recently so its great to see some new info

coming through. Caoimhghin If you have time could you try 'cryan' and 'crean'?

 

From:      "leedon" <leedon@maxinter.net>     Date:  Mon, 1 May 2000 09:36:52 -0700

 Subject:        [CRYAN]      To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Ancestry.com

Search Terms: CREHAN (1)

Database: Denver Land Office Records, 1862-1908

Combined Matches: 1

Surname/Given Name/ Bureau of Land Management /Township / Direction /

Range

Direction/Type/ Book CREHAN GILBERT /  6 / 10 North / 82  West / 

Desert

Land entry / Register of Desert Land Entries, 1 vol.

 

Patentee Name: TERESA B CREHAN

Land Office Code:  MARSHALL

Document Number:  8330

Miscellaneous Document Number:

Title Authority:  CASH ENTRY SALE

Signature:  Y

Signature Date:  1892/02/18

Aliquot Parts:  SW

Section Number:  18

Township:  105 N

Range:  41 W

Base Line:  5TH

Total Acres:  157.5500

Fractional Section:  N

Subsurface Rights Reserved:  N

Metes and Bounds Description:  N

Canceled Document:  N

Multiple Patentee(s):  N

Multiple Warantee(s):  N

Warantee Name:

Accession Number:  MN1270__.209

Image Name:  00023772

Volume ID:  529

Image Type:  P

Remarks:

 

From:    "leedon" <leedon@maxinter.net>  | Date:   Mon, 1 May 2000 09:49:41 -0700 Subject:

        [CRYAN]      To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

I am sending paid records [ I joined for 1 month] as I search

Ancestry.com.

If anyone can tell me how to send the pages so they look the same as on

thesite, please e-mail me and tell me. I copy the records and paste them

to thenew message. If there is a way to send it that is easier for you to

viewjust tell me how to do it step by step.

Eileen

 

Search > Record Type > AIS Mortality Schedules Index > Search Results

May 1,2000

Search Results

Search Terms: CREHAN (2)

Database: AIS Mortality Schedules Index

Combined Matches: 2

 

Year Surname Given Name(s) County State Age Sex Month of Death State of

Birth Cause of Death Occupation ID#

1860 CREHAN THOMAS ORLEANS PAR LA 22 M JAN IR   LABORER MRT2_1253

1880 CREHAN PATRICK BERKELEY CO. WV 9 M JAN VA PNEUMONIA NONE LISTED

MRT197_71664

 

Viewing records 1-2 of 2

 

From:        "leedon" <leedon@maxinter.net>     Date:    Mon, 1 May 2000 09:51:16 -0700

 Subject:        [CRYAN]   To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Ancestry.com

Search Terms: CREHAN (5)

Database: Albany, New York State Census, 1915

Combined Matches: 5

Surname Given Name Election District # Ward # Page # Line #

CREHAN Catherine E. 2 7 10 19

CREHAN Cora E. 2 7 10 18

CREHAN Emma M. 2 7 10 15

CREHAN Emma M. 2 7 10 17

CREHAN William J. 2 7 10 16

 

From:  "leedon" <leedon@maxinter.net>  | Date:    Mon, 1 May 2000 09:59:05 -0700

 Subject:        [CRYAN]     To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Search Terms: CREHAN (1)

Database: Arizona Census, 1831-80

Combined Matches: 1

Year Surname Given Name (s) County State Page Township or Other Info

Record

Type Database ID#

1880 CREHAN MICHAEL Yavapai County AZ 467 27th District Federal

Population

Schedule AZ 1880 Federal Census Index AZS7a1200486

 

Search Terms: CREHAN (1)

Database: Connecticut Census, 1790-1890

Combined Matches: 1

 

Year Surname Given Name (s) County State Page Township or Other Info Record

Type Database ID#

1850 CREHAN EMELINE New Haven County CT 342 New Haven Federal

Population

Schedule CT 1850 Federal Census Index CTS6a703195

 

Search Terms: CREHAN (1)

Database: District of Columbia Census, 1800-90

Combined Matches: 1

 

Year Surname Given Name (s) County State Page Township or Other Info

Record

Type Database ID#

1870 CREHAN M. CLARE Washington DC 306 2nd.W.Washington D.C. Federal

Population Schedule DC 1870 Federal Census Index DC51336999

 

From:        "leedon" <leedon@maxinter.net>  | Date:    Mon, 1 May 2000 10:08:59 -0700

 Subject:        [CRYAN]     To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Search Results

Database: Full Context of Dunwich Township, Elgin Co., Ontario Census, 1901

Combined Matches:

 

Census Year: 1901

Place: Dunwich

Film: T-6465

Div: 1

Page: 9

Entry: 49

Fam: 98

Surname: Crehan

Given Name: William

Rel. to Head: head

Birthdate: 15 Mar, 1852

Birthplace: Ireland

Immigration: 1879

 --------------------------------------------------

Census Year: 1901

Place: Dunwich

Film: T-6465

Div: 1

Page: 9

Entry: 50

Fam: 98

Surname: Crehan

Given Name: Maggie L

Rel. to Head: daughter

Birthdate: 2 Mar, 1876

Birthplace: New York

Immigration: 1879

------------------------------------

Census Year: 1901

Place: Dunwich

Film: T-6465

Div: 1

Page: 10

Entry: 1

Fam: 98

Surname: Crehan

Given Name: James F

Rel. to Head: son

Birthdate: 1 Jun, 1881

Birthplace: Ontario

Immigration: -

------------------------------------

Census Year: 1901

Place: Dunwich

Film: T-6465

Div: 1

Page: 10

Entry: 2

Fam: 98

Surname: Crehan

Given Name: Kate J

Rel. to Head: daughter

Birthdate: 27 Jun, 1883

Birthplace: Ontario

Immigration: -

 -----------------------------------

Census Year: 1901

Place: Dunwich

Film: T-6465

Div: 1

Page: 10

Entry: 3

Fam: 98

Surname: Crehan

Given Name: Annie L

Rel. to Head: daughter

Birthdate: 9 Feb, 1885

Birthplace: Ontario

Immigration: -

 -------------------------------------

Census Year: 1901

Place: Dunwich

Film: T-6465

Div: 1

Page: 10

Entry: 4

Fam: 98

Surname: Crehan

Given Name: Alice M

Rel. to Head: daughter

Birthdate: 25 Sep, 1887

Birthplace: Ontario

Immigration: -

-------------------------------------

Census Year: 1901

Place: Dunwich

Film: T-6465

Div: 1

Page: 10

Entry: 5

Fam: 98

Surname: Crehan

Given Name: William H

Rel. to Head: son

Birthdate: 6 Oct, 1889

Birthplace: Ontario

Immigration: -

-----------------------------------

Census Year: 1901

Place: Dunwich

Film: T-6465

Div: 1

Page: 10

Entry: 6

Fam: 98

Surname: Crehan

Given Name: Mabel E

Rel. to Head: daughter

Birthdate: 19 May, 1893

Birthplace: Ontario

Immigration: -

----------------------------------

Eileen

leedon@maxinter.net

 

From:  "leedon" <leedon@maxinter.net>     Date:        Mon, 1 May 2000 10:13:32 -0700

 Subject:        [CRYAN]      To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Search Terms: CREHAN (1)

Database: Illinois Census, 1810-90

Combined Matches: 1

 

Year Surname Given Name (s) County State Page Township or Other Info Record

Type Database ID#

1860 CREHAN BRIDGET Jo Daviess County IL 433 4 W.Galena Federal

Population

Schedule IL 1860 Federal Census Index IL37352116

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Search Terms: CREHAN (2)

Database: Missouri Census, 1830-70

Combined Matches: 2

 

Year Surname Given Name (s) County State Page Township or Other Info

Record

Type Database ID#

1860 CREHAN MARY Buchanan County MO 357 1st Ward St. Joseph Cty Federal

Population Schedule MO 1860 Federal Census Index MO22924829

1870 CREHAN THOMAS Clinton County MO 142 Twp 56 Range 30 Federal

Population

Schedule MO 1870 Federal Census Index MO30140051

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Search Terms: CREHAN (1)

Database: New Hampshire Census, 1790-1890

Combined Matches: 1

 

Year Surname Given Name (s) County State Page Township or Other Info Record

Type Database ID#

1850 CREHAN CORNELIUS Cheshire County NH 027 Winchester Federal

Population

Schedule NH 1850 Federal Census Index NHS6a703194

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Search Terms: CREHAN (1)

Database: Oregon Census, 1841-90

Combined Matches: 1

 

Year Surname Given Name (s) County State Page Township or Other Info Record

Type Database ID#

1870 CREHAN MICHAEL Jackson County OR 403 Jacksonville P.O. Federal

Population Schedule OR 1870 Federal Census Index OR52914473

----------------------------------------

Eileen

leedon@maxinter.net

 

From:        "leedon" <leedon@maxinter.net>  | Date:        Mon, 1 May 2000 10:17:00 -0700

 Subject:        [CRYAN]      To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Search Terms: CREHAN (1)

Database: Wisconsin Census, 1820-90

Combined Matches: 1

 

Year Surname Given Name (s) County State Page Township or Other Info

Record

Type Database ID#

1860 CREHAN DENNIS Crawford County WI 856 Prairie Du Chien Federal

Population Schedule WI 1860 Federal Census Index WI45640204

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Search Terms: CREHAN (1)

Database: South Dakota Census, 1870-90

Combined Matches: 1

 

Year Surname Given Name (s) County State Page Township or Other Info

Record

Type Database ID#

1885 CREHAN MICHAEL Hanson County SD 010 District No. 113 Federal

Population

Schedule SD 1885 Federal Census Index SD2904588

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Search Terms: CREHAN (8)

Database: Massachusetts Census, 1790-1890

Combined Matches: 8

 

Year Surname Given Name (s) County State Page Township or Other Info

Record

Type Database ID#

 

1860 CREHAN ABBY Hampden County MA 980 Holyoke Federal Population

Schedule

MA 1860 Federal Census Index MA2426813

 

1860 CREHAN ELLEN Hampden County MA 980 Holyoke Federal Population

Schedule

MA 1860 Federal Census Index MA2426814

 

1860 CREHAN JOHN Hampden County MA 980 Holyoke Federal Population

Schedule

MA 1860 Federal Census Index MA2426815

 

1860 CREHAN TIMOTHY Hampden County MA 946 Holyoke Federal Population

Schedule MA 1860 Federal Census Index MA2426816

 

1860 CREHAN C. MISS Suffolk County MA 693 8 W. Boston Federal

Population

Schedule MA 1860 Federal Census Index MA17317527

 

1860 CREHAN H. MISS Suffolk County MA 693 8 W. Boston Federal

Population

Schedule MA 1860 Federal Census Index MA17317528

 

1860 CREHAN JOHN MRS. Suffolk County MA 693 8 W. Boston Federal

Population

Schedule MA 1860 Federal Census Index MA17317530

 

1860 CREHAN JOHN Suffolk County MA 693 8 W. Boston Federal Population

Schedule MA 1860 Federal Census Index MA17317529

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Eileen

leedon@maxinter.net

 

From:        "leedon" <leedon@maxinter.net>  | Date:        Mon, 1 May 2000 10:18:36 -0700

 Subject:        [CRYAN]      To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Search Terms: CREHAN (12)

Database: New York Census, 1790-1890

Combined Matches: 12

 

Year Surname Given Name (s) County State Page Township or Other Info

Record

Type Database ID#

 

1860 CREHAN JOHN Dutchess County NY 819 Red Hook Federal Population

Schedule

NY 1860 Federal Census Index NY58660509

 

1870 CREHAN THOMAS Kings County NY 437 12 W. Brooklyn Federal

Population

Schedule NY 1870 Federal Census Index NY31127717

 

1860 CREHAN CHARLES G. New York County NY 418 14 W. Nyc Dist. 2 Federal

Population Schedule NY 1860 Federal Census Index NY58559754

 

1850 CREHAN JOHN New York County NY 152 N.Y.City 1st Wd W Div Federal

Population Schedule NY 1850 Federal Census Index NYS6a703196

 

1860 CREHAN FRANCES Rensselaer County NY 075 Greenbush Federal

Population

Schedule NY 1860 Federal Census Index NY58660506

 

1860 CREHAN HENRY Rensselaer County NY 1120 Sand Lake Federal

Population

Schedule NY 1860 Federal Census Index NY58660507

 

1860 CREHAN JAMES Rensselaer County NY 074 Greenbush Federal Population

Schedule NY 1860 Federal Census Index NY58660508

 

1830 CREHAN JOHN Rensselaer County NY 014 Troy 1st Ward Federal

Population

Schedule NY 1830 Federal Census Index NY558432721

 

1830 CREHAN JOSEPH Rensselaer County NY 038 Troy 2nd Ward Federal

Population

Schedule NY 1830 Federal Census Index NY558432722

 

1820 CREHAN JOSET Rensselaer County NY 210 Troy Federal Population

Schedule

NY 1820 Federal Census Index NY320297154

Eileen

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From:     "leedon" <leedon@maxinter.net>   Date:    Mon, 1 May 2000 10:28:45 -0700 Subject:

        [CRYAN]     To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Search Terms: CREHAN (12)

Database: New York Census, 1790-1890

Combined Matches: 12

Previous Hits

 

Year Surname Given Name (s) County State Page Township or Other InfoRecord

Type Database ID#

1830 CREHAN WILLIAM Rensselaer County NY 014 Troy 1st Ward Federal

Population Schedule NY 1830 Federal Census Index NY558432723

1860 CREHAN POLK Westchester County NY 104 Ossing Federal Population

Schedule NY 1860 Federal Census Index NY58660510

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Search Terms: CREHAN (3)

Database: Rhode Island Birth Records

Combined Matches: 3

 

Name Relation Parent 1 Parent 2 Birth Date Comment

Ellen M Crehan   Thomas Crehan Catharine Crehan 30 Oct 1899

John E Crehan   Thomas Crehan Catherine Crehan 01 Feb 1901

Julia M Crehan   Thomas Crehan Catharine Crehan 16 Apr 1910

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Search Results

Database: Full Context of Michigan Death Index, 1971-96

Combined Matches:

 

Surname: CREHAN

Given Name: Marguerite

Initial: J

Sex: Female

Alias:

Day of Birth: 03

Month of Birth: March

Year of Birth: 08

Day of Death: 04

Month of Death: February

Year of Death: 87

City of Residence: Birmingham

County of Residence: Oakland

State of Residence: Michigan

City of Death: Royal Oak

County of Death: Oakland

State of Death: Michigan

Death Certificate No.: 10611

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Search Results

Database: Full Context of Michigan Death Index, 1971-96

Combined Matches:

 

Surname: CREHAN

Given Name: Fern

Initial: M

Sex: Female

Alias:

Day of Birth: 18

Month of Birth: May

Year of Birth: 92

Day of Death: 07

Month of Death: February

Year of Death: 80

City of Residence: Hope

County of Residence: Barry

State of Residence: Michigan

City of Death: Hastings

County of Death: Barry

State of Death: Michigan

Death Certificate No.: 7052

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Search Results

Database: Full Context of Michigan Death Index, 1971-96

Combined Matches:

 

Surname: CREHAN

Given Name: Owen

Initial:

Sex: Male

Alias:

Day of Birth: 22

Month of Birth: December

Year of Birth: 94

Day of Death: 20

Month of Death: May

Year of Death: 78

City of Residence: Detroit

County of Residence: Wayne

State of Residence: Michigan

City of Death: Detroit

County of Death: Wayne

State of Death: Michigan

Death Certificate No.: 26149

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From:     "leedon" <leedon@maxinter.net>  |   Date:    Mon, 1 May 2000 10:46:02 -0700

 Subject:        [CRYAN] Ancestry.com-CREHAN    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Search Terms: CREHAN (7)

Database: American Civil War Soldiers

Combined Matches: 7

 

 Name State Served Enlist Date Enlist Rank Enlist Age Enlist Place Army

 

  Dennis   Crehan Massachusetts 30 August 1862 Priv 22   Union

 

  John   Crehan Massachusetts 30 August 1862 Priv 24   Union

 

  William H Crehan Illinois 16 February 1865 Priv     Union

 

  Andrew   Crehan Pennsylvania 19 November 1864 Priv     Union

 

  Alfred N Crehan New York 01 September 1864 Priv 18 Albany, NY Union

 

  John   Crehan New York 26 March 1863 Priv 18 Buffalo, NY Union

 

  Daniel   Crehan Indiana 14 December 1861 Priv     Union

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Database: Full Context of American Civil War Soldiers

Combined Matches:

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 Dennis   Crehan

Claimed Residence in Dracut

Worked as a Laborer

 Enlist Date Enlist Place Enlist Rank Enlist Age

30 August 1862   Priv 22

 

Served Massachusetts  Enlisted K Co. 6th Inf Reg. MA Mustered Out at

Lowell,

MA on 03 June 1863

Source: Massachusetts Soldiers, Sailors and Marines in the Civil War

Abbreviation: MASSCW

Published by Adjutant General on 1931-37

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William H Crehan

Claimed Residence in Chicago

 Enlist Date Enlist Place Enlist Rank Enlist Age

16 February 1865   Priv

 

Served Illinois  Enlisted I Co. 156th Inf Reg. IL Mustered Out on 19

May

1865

Source: Illinois: Roster of Officers and Enlisted Men

Abbreviation: ILRoster

Published by on 1900

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John   Crehan

Claimed Residence in Dracut

Worked as a Laborer

 Enlist Date Enlist Place Enlist Rank Enlist Age

30 August 1862   Priv 24

 

Served Massachusetts  Enlisted K Co. 6th Inf Reg. MA Mustered Out at

Lowell,

MA on 03 June 1863

Source: Massachusetts Soldiers, Sailors and Marines in the Civil War

Abbreviation: MASSCW

Published by Adjutant General on 1931-37

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Andrew   Crehan

 Enlist Date Enlist Place Enlist Rank Enlist Age

19 November 1864   Priv

 

Served Pennsylvania  Transfered RC

Source: History of Pennsylvania Volunteers, 1861-1865

Abbreviation: PARoster

Published by on 1870

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Alfred N Crehan

 Enlist Date Enlist Place Enlist Rank Enlist Age

01 September 1864 Albany, NY Priv 18

 

Served New York  Enlisted K Co. 91st Inf Reg. NY disch at Satterlee

Hospl,

Phila, PA on 29 June 1865

Source: New York: Report of the Adjutant-General

Abbreviation: NYRoster

Published by on 1894-1906

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John   Crehan

 Enlist Date Enlist Place Enlist Rank Enlist Age

26 March 1863 Buffalo, NY Priv 18

 

Served New York  Enlisted H Co. 14th Cav Reg. NY deserted on 24

February

1865Transferred from Company H to Company A

Source: New York: Report of the Adjutant-General

Abbreviation: NYRoster

Published by on 1894-1906

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Daniel   Crehan

Claimed Residence in Lafayette

 Enlist Date Enlist Place Enlist Rank Enlist Age

14 December 1861   Priv

 

Served Indiana  Enlisted E Co. 35th Inf Reg. IN deserted on 15 December

1861

Source: Report of the Adjutant General of the State of Indiana

Abbreviation: INRoster

Published by Holloway on 1865-66

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From:    "leedon" <leedon@maxinter.net>    Date:    Mon, 1 May 2000 10:47:42 -0700

 Subject:        [CRYAN] Civil War Muster Rolls    To:    CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Search Terms: CREHAN (14)

Database: Civil War Muster Rolls

Combined Matches: 14

 

Surname Given Name Middle Initial Company Unit Rank - Induction Rank -

Discharge Notes Box # Extraction # Record #

 

Chrane Martin   D 10 Tennessee Infantry. Private Private Crehan, Martin

000231 0008 00003088

 

Crahan Daniel   E 35 Indiana Infantry. Private Private Crehan, Daniel

000540

0016 00001536

 

Creahan Martin   D 10 Tennessee Infantry. Private Private Crehan,

Martin

000231 0010 00002424

 

Crehan Alfred N. K 91 N. Y. Infantry. Private Private   000551 0031

00000166

 

Crehan Andrew   G 102 Pennsylvania Inf. Private Private V. R. C. 000554

0024

00001353

 

Crehan Andrew     131 Co., 2 Batt'n. Veteran Res. Corps. Sergeant

Sergeant

102 Pa. V. 000636 0009 00000394

 

Crehan Daniel   E 35 Indiana Infantry. Private Private   000540 0016

00002713

 

Crehan Dennis   K 6 Massachusetts Infantry. Private Private   000544

0009

00002442

 

Crehan John   K 6 Massachusetts Infantry. Private Private   000544 0009

00002443

 

Crehan John H.   14 N. Y. Cavalry. Private Private   000551 0031

00000165

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From:        "leedon" <leedon@maxinter.net>  | Date:        Mon, 1 May 2000 11:00:13 -0700

Subject:        [CRYAN] Maryland Military Men, 1917-18=Louisiana Confederate        Soldiers

     To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Search Results

Database: Full Context of Louisiana Confederate Soldiers

Confederate Research Sources

Volume 1, C. page 480

Crehan, Martin,Pvt. Co. C. 9th Battn. La. Infty. En. April 1st, 1862,

New Orleans, La. Roll for Sept. and Oct., 1862, Absent, sick, at Hospl. in

Magnolia, Miss.

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Search Results

Database: Full Context of Maryland Military Men, 1917-18

Combined Matches:

Maryland in the World War 1917-1919; Military and Naval Service

Records,

Volumes I & II

U. S. Army

G. H. Q., A. E. F., Citation for Gallantry in Action

 

Name: James Howard Crehan

Rank: Pvt 1c

Division: Army

 

Maryland in the World War 1917-1919; Military and Naval Service

Records,

Volumes I & II

U. S. Army

G. H. Q., A. E. F., Citation for Gallantry in Action

 

Maryland in the World War 1917-1919; Military and Naval Service

Records,

Volumes I & II

U. S. Army

 

U. S. Army

 

Maryland in the World War 1917-1919; Military and Naval Service

Records,

Volumes I & II

U. S. Army

 

Maryland in the World War 1917-1919; Military and Naval Service

Records,

Volumes I & II

U. S. Army

G. H. Q., A. E. F., Citation for Gallantry in Action

 

G. H. Q., A. E. F., Citation for Gallantry in Action

 

Maryland in the World War 1917-1919; Military and Naval Service

Records,

Volumes I & II

U. S. Army

G. H. Q., A. E. F., Citation for Gallantry in Action

 

Maryland in the World War 1917-1919; Military and Naval Service

Records,

Volumes I & II

Serbian

Order of St. Sava

 

Name: Charles Joseph Crehan

Race: white

Address: 311 N. Fremont Ave., Baltimore

Birth Place: Baltimore, Md.

Birth Date: 05 Jan 1892

Comment: Ind 6/22/18 pvt, 154 Dep Brig; Co D 11 Am Tn 8/23/18, Hon

disch

12/14/18

 

Maryland in the World War 1917-1919; Military and Naval Service

Records,

Volumes I & II

Serbian

Order of St. Sava

 

Name: George A Crehan

Race: white

Address: 311 N. Fremont Ave., Baltimore

Birth Place: Baltimore, Md.

Birth Date: 22 Sep 1892

Comment: Ind 6/22/18 pvt, 154 Dep Brig; Co D 11 Am Tn 8/23/18, Hon

disch

12/14/18

 

Maryland in the World War 1917-1919; Military and Naval Service

Records,

Volumes I & II

Serbian

Order of St. Sava

 

Name: James Howard Crehan

Race: white

Address: 311 N. Fremont Ave., Baltimore

Birth Place: Baltimore, Md.

Birth Date: 23 Jan 1896

Comment: Ind 9/29/17 pvt; pvt 1c 8/12/18, Co L 313 Inf; Camp Meade Inf

Repl

Draft 2/26/18; Hq Co 126 Inf 4/18/18; Co I 125 Inf 4/24/18, Hon disch

5/27/19, Overseas 3/25/18 to 5/18/19, Center Sector; Aisne-Marne;

Oise-Aisne; Meuse-Argonne, AEF Citation for Gallantry in Action For

gallantry in action near Romagne, France, October 11, 1918, in making

repeated trips across an area swept by concentrated machine gun and

artillery fire.

 

Maryland in the World War 1917-1919; Military and Naval Service

Records,

Volumes I & II

Serbian

Order of St. Sava

 

Name: Eugene Lewis Crehen

Race: white

Address: 3056 Stafford St., Baltimore

Birth Place: Baltimore, Md.

Birth Date: 04 Jul 1899

Comment: NG 5/10/17 pvt, Co D 4 Md. Inf; Btry F 110 FA 10/7/17, Hon

disch

12/8/17 SCD

 

Maryland in the World War 1917-1919; Military and Naval Service

Records,

Volumes I & II

Serbian

Order of St. Sava

Eileen

leedon@maxinter.net

 

From:    "leedon" <leedon@maxinter.net>     Date:     Mon, 1 May 2000 11:03:23 -0700

 Subject:        [CRYAN] Ohio Military Men, 1917-18=WWI Civilian Draft        Registrations

     To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Search Results

Database: Full Context of Ohio Military Men, 1917-18

Combined Matches:

 

Name: Edward H. Crehan

Serial Number: 1962857

Race: W

Residence: Kennard Hotel, Cleveland, O.

Enlistment Division: National Army LB 6

Enlistment Location: Cleveland, O.

Enlistment Date: 10 Jan 1918

Birth Place: St Louis, Mo.

Birth Date / Age: 28 5/12 years

Assigns Comment: 158 Depot Brigade to 21 Feb 1918; 315 Sn Squadron to

--; 33

Sn Squadron to Discharge Private, first class 6 Feb 1918; Private 26

Feb

1918; Private, first class 10 Apr 1918. American Expeditionary Forces

12

June 1918 to 18 June 1919. Honorable discharge 25 June 1919.

Volume #: 4

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Search Terms: CREHAN (4)

Database: WWI Civilian Draft Registrations

Combined Matches: 4

Name Birth Date Ethnicity Birth Place County State

William Joseph Crehan 27 Dec 1875 White  Lemhi Idaho

Bernard Crehan 5 Feb 1881 White citizen of Ireland NYC (Bronx) New York

William Joseph Crehan 27 Dec 1875 W  Lemhi ID

Bernard Crehan 5 Feb 1881 W citizen of Ireland NYC (Bronx)# 1 NY

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From:     "leedon" <leedon@maxinter.net>     Date:     Mon, 1 May 2000 11:14:56 -0700

 Subject:        [CRYAN] Auburn, NY Directories, 1889-92     To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

 

Search Terms: CREHAN (17)

Database: Auburn, NY Directories, 1889-92

Combined Matches: 17

Name Business Name Occupation Location 1 Location 2 City State Year

 

Annie Crehan   button op   bds 18 1/2 Hamilton ave   NY

Bridget Crehan   widow Martin   18 Miller   NY

Ellen Crehan   widow William   18 1/2 Hamilton ave   NY

John Crehan   shoemaker   enquire 13 E Genesee   NY

Martin Crehan   buttonmaker   bds 18 1/2 Hamilton ave   NY

Michael J Crehan Hawelka & Crchan     bds 18 Miller   NY

Thomas Crehan   woolsorter   18 Miller   NY

Charles Hawelka Hawelka & Crehan     bds 85 Lansing   NY

Chas Hawelka; Michael Crehan Hawelka & Crehan sample and pool rooms 13

EGenesee     NY

Anna M Crehan   button op   bds 18 1/2 Hamilton ave Auburn NY 1891,

1892

Bridget Crehan   widow Martin   18 Miller Auburn NY 1891, 1892

Mrs Elizabeth Crehan       74 Lansing Auburn NY 1891, 1892

Ellen Crehan   widow William   18 1/2 Hamilton ave Auburn NY 1891, 1892

Kittie Crehan   weaver   bds 63 Clark Auburn NY 1891, 1892

Martin Crehan   mechanic   bds 18 1/2 Hamilton ave Auburn NY 1891, 1892

Michael J. Crehan "The Cottage," bar keeper 53 State   Auburn NY 1891,

1892

Thomas Crehan   wool sorter   18 Miller Auburn NY 1891, 1892

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From:        "leedon" <leedon@maxinter.net>  | Date:    Mon, 1 May 2000 11:16:23 -0700

 Subject:      [CRYAN] Directory-Our Pioneer Heritage    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Search Results

Database: Full Context of Utah, Our Pioneer Heritage

Combined Matches:

Previous Page      Next Page

Our Pioneer Heritage

Volume 14

Mining and Railroad Ghost Towns

Idaho-Ghost Towns

Wyoming

 

The Gilmore Mercantile had such large volume of business that supplies

wereimported in carload lots. The store did $100,000 worth of business a

yearand at one time five men worked under Tucker. A drugstore was run in

Gilmoreby Louis Elg who later became mayor of Idaho Falls. The Lemhi Valley

Bankopened with J. J. Crehan of Pittsburgh as cashier.

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Search Terms: CREHAN (2)

Database: Philadelphia City Directory, 1890

Combined Matches: 2

 

NAME PROFESSION ADDRESS

Crehan Charles laborer h 2945 Oriana

Crehan Joseph F. binder h 119 N 11th

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Search Terms: CREHAN (2)

Database: Portland, Oregon Directories, 1890-91

Combined Matches: 2

 

Name Business Name Occupation Location 1 Location 2 City State Year

Willoughby M Crehan Pac Mutual Life and Accident Ins Co special agent 46

Washington rooms 190 East Park. Portland OR 1890

Willonghby M Crehan Pac Mut L & A Ins Co spcl agent   rooms 194

Jefferson.Portland OR 1891

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Search Terms: CREHAN (1)

Database: Cayuga County, New York Directory, 1867-68

Combined Matches: 1

 

Surname Given Name Town Occupation Acres

Crehan Martin Auburn private school

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From:    "leedon" <leedon@maxinter.net>     Date:        Mon, 1 May 2000 20:14:00 -0700

 Subject:        [CRYAN] Connecticut Death Index, 1949-96    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Search Results

Database: Full Context of Connecticut Death Index, 1949-96

 

Death Year: 1958

File Number: 13202

Surname: CREHAN

First Name: CLARA

Middle Initial: S

Sex: Female

Month of Birth: 

Day of Birth: 

Year of Birth: xxxYOB

Race: White

Hispanic Origin:

Age Units: Years

Age: 79

Month of Death: July

Day of Death: 21

Death State: Connecticut

Death County: Litchfield

Death Town: Thomaston

Birth State: 

Birth Town: 

Marital Status: Married

Decedent's Last Spouse: JOSE

Education: 

State of Residence: Connecticut

County of Residence: Litchfield

Town of Residence: Thomaston

 

Death Year: 1962

File Number: 18650

Surname: CREHAN

First Name: LEO

Middle Initial: J

Sex: Male

Month of Birth: 

Day of Birth: 

Year of Birth: xxxYOB

Race: White

Hispanic Origin:

Age Units: Years

Age: 08

Month of Death: October

Day of Death: 07

Death State: Connecticut

Death County: Hartford

Death Town: Hartford

Birth State: 

Birth Town: 

Marital Status: Never Married

Decedent's Last Spouse: 

Education: 

State of Residence: Connecticut

County of Residence: Hartford

Town of Residence: Windsor

 

Death Year: 1969

File Number: 10209

Surname: CREHAN

First Name: HILAR

Middle Initial: A

Sex: Female

Month of Birth: 

Day of Birth: 

Year of Birth: xxxYOB

Race: White

Hispanic Origin:

Age Units: Years

Age: 01

Month of Death: May

Day of Death: 26

Death State: Connecticut

Death County: Fairfield

Death Town: Norwalk

Birth State: 

Birth Town: 

Marital Status: Never Married

Decedent's Last Spouse: 4015

Education: 

State of Residence: Connecticut

County of Residence: Fairfield

Town of Residence: Ridgefield

 

Death Year: 1974

File Number: 07337

Surname: CREHAN

First Name: RAYMO

Middle Initial: F

Sex: Unknown

Month of Birth: 

Day of Birth: 

Year of Birth: xxxYOB

Race: White

Hispanic Origin:

Age Units: Years

Age: 54

Month of Death: April

Day of Death: 10

Death State: Connecticut

Death County: 

Death Town: Hartford

Birth State: 

Birth Town: 

Marital Status: Divorced

Decedent's Last Spouse: MARI

Education: 

State of Residence: Connecticut

County of Residence: 

Town of Residence: East Hartford

 

Death Year: 1976

File Number: 20924

Surname: CREHAN

First Name: ANNA

Middle Initial:

Sex: Unknown

Month of Birth: 

Day of Birth: 

Year of Birth: xxxYOB

Race: White

Hispanic Origin:

Age Units: Years

Age: 71

Month of Death: October

Day of Death: 09

Death State: Connecticut

Death County: 

Death Town: Norwalk

Birth State: 

Birth Town: 

Marital Status: Widowed

Decedent's Last Spouse: PATR

Education: 

State of Residence: Connecticut

County of Residence: 

Town of Residence: Ridgefield

 

Death Year: 1976

File Number: 07626

Surname: CREHAN

First Name: MARTI

Middle Initial: J

Sex: Unknown

Month of Birth: 

Day of Birth: 

Year of Birth: xxxYOB

Race: White

Hispanic Origin:

Age Units: Years

Age: 71

Month of Death: April

Day of Death: 10

Death State: Connecticut

Death County: 

Death Town: Danbury

Birth State: 

Birth Town: 

Marital Status: Married

Decedent's Last Spouse: GERT

Education: 

State of Residence: Connecticut

County of Residence: 

Town of Residence: Danbury

 

Death Year: 1976

File Number: 10944

Surname: CREHAN

First Name: PATRI

Middle Initial: J

Sex: Unknown

Month of Birth: 

Day of Birth: 

Year of Birth: xxxYOB

Race: White

Hispanic Origin:

Age Units: Years

Age: 83

Month of Death: May

Day of Death: 29

Death State: Connecticut

Death County: 

Death Town: Ridgefield

Birth State: 

Birth Town: 

Marital Status: Married

Decedent's Last Spouse: ANNA

Education: 

State of Residence: Connecticut

County of Residence: 

Town of Residence: Ridgefield

 

Death Year: 1986

File Number: 21419

Surname: CREHAN

First Name: CLIFFORD

Middle Initial: F

Sex: Unknown

Month of Birth: October

Day of Birth: 28

Year of Birth: xxxYOB18

Race: White

Hispanic Origin:

Age Units: Years

Age: 67

Month of Death: October

Day of Death: 27

Death State: Connecticut

Death County: 

Death Town: Manchester

Birth State: New York

Birth Town: 

Marital Status: Married

Decedent's Last Spouse: RACHE

Education: 

State of Residence: Connecticut

County of Residence: 

Town of Residence: Manchester

Father's Surname: CREHAN

Residence House Number: 153

Residence Street Name: OAK

Residence Street Type: ST

Residence Zip Code: 06040

Usual Occupation: RETIRED INSPECTOR

Industry: P & W A

 

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From:    "leedon" <leedon@maxinter.net>     Date:      Mon, 1 May 2000 20:21:20 -0700

 Subject:        [CRYAN] Connecticut Death Index, 1949-96-PART2    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Database: Full Context of Connecticut Death Index, 1949-96

Combined Matches:

 

 Death Year: 1979

File Number: 16542

Surname: BURKE

First Name: MONIC

Middle Initial: C

Sex: Unknown

Month of Birth: April

Day of Birth: 08

Year of Birth: xxxYOB08

Race: White

Hispanic Origin:

Age Units: Years

Age: 71

Month of Death: August

Day of Death: 23

Death State: Connecticut

Death County: 

Death Town: Norwich

Birth State: Connecticut

Birth Town: 

Marital Status: Married

Decedent's Last Spouse: CHARL

Education: 

State of Residence: Connecticut

County of Residence: 

Town of Residence: Waterford

Father's Surname: CREHAN

 

Death Year: 1989

File Number: 00035

Surname: CREHAN

First Name: GERTRUDE

Middle Initial: A

Sex: Female

Month of Birth: March

Day of Birth: 05

Year of Birth: 1905

Race: White

Hispanic Origin:

Age Units: Years

Age: 83

Month of Death: January

Day of Death: 20

Death State: Connecticut

Death County: New Haven

Death Town: Branford

Birth State: New York

Birth Town: 

Marital Status: Widowed

Decedent's Last Spouse: MARTI

Education: 

State of Residence: Connecticut

County of Residence: New Haven

Town of Residence: Naugatuck

Father's Surname: STORACH

Residence House Number: 53

Residence Street Name: CONRAD

Residence Street Type: ST

Residence Zip Code: 067702448

Usual Occupation: PRODUCTION

Industry: UNIROYAL INC

 

Death Year: 1989

File Number: 26025

Surname: CREHAN

First Name: JOHN

Middle Initial: M

Sex: Male

Month of Birth: March

Day of Birth: 28

Year of Birth: 1991

Race: White

Hispanic Origin: No

Age Units: Years

Age: 98

Month of Death: December

Day of Death: 27

Death State: Connecticut

Death County: Fairfield

Death Town: Danbury

Birth State: Connecticut

Birth Town: Danbury

Marital Status: Married

Decedent's Last Spouse: MARIA

Education: Primary/Secondary

State of Residence: Connecticut

County of Residence: Fairfield

Town of Residence: Danbury

Father's Surname: CREHAN

Residence House Number: 

Residence Street Name: GLEN APTS

Residence Street Type: 

Residence Zip Code: 00000

Usual Occupation: TRUCK DR

Industry: B J DOLAN CO

 

Death Year: 1991

File Number: 00166

Surname: DILLON

First Name: MARY

Middle Initial:

Sex: Female

Month of Birth: July

Day of Birth: 12

Year of Birth: 1994

Race: White

Hispanic Origin: No

Age Units: Years

Age: 96

Month of Death: January

Day of Death: 21

Death State: Connecticut

Death County: Fairfield

Death Town: Bridgeport

Birth State: Ireland

Birth Town: 

Marital Status: Widowed

Decedent's Last Spouse: JAMES

Education: Unknown

State of Residence: Connecticut

County of Residence: Fairfield

Town of Residence: Bridgeport

Father's Surname: CREHAN

Residence House Number: 98

Residence Street Name: LEWIS

Residence Street Type: ST

Residence Zip Code: 00000

Usual Occupation: HMEMKR

Industry: OWN HM

 

Death Year: 1993

File Number: 08163

Surname: CREHAN

First Name: GERTRUDE

Middle Initial:

Sex: Female

Month of Birth: January

Day of Birth: 21

Year of Birth: 1908

Race: White

Hispanic Origin: No

Age Units: Years

Age: 85

Month of Death: April

Day of Death: 30

Death State: Connecticut

Death County: Hartford

Death Town: Hartford

Birth State: Connecticut

Birth Town: 999

Marital Status: Married

Decedent's Last Spouse: MARK

Education: Primary/Secondary

State of Residence: Connecticut

County of Residence: Hartford

Town of Residence: Hartford

Father's Surname: PARSONS

Residence House Number: 41

Residence Street Name: CUMBERLAND

Residence Street Type: ST

Residence Zip Code: 

Usual Occupation: HOUSEWIFE

Industry: AT HOME

 

Death Year: 1993

File Number: 23785

Surname: CREHAN

First Name: MARGARET

Middle Initial: A

Sex: Female

Month of Birth: August

Day of Birth: 31

Year of Birth: 1904

Race: White

Hispanic Origin: No

Age Units: Years

Age: 89

Month of Death: October

Day of Death: 14

Death State: Connecticut

Death County: Hartford

Death Town: Windsor

Birth State: Ireland

Birth Town: 999

Marital Status: Widowed

Decedent's Last Spouse: THOMA

Education: Primary/Secondary

State of Residence: Connecticut

County of Residence: Hartford

Town of Residence: Windsor

Father's Surname: KEAVENY

Residence House Number: 976

Residence Street Name: WINDSOR

Residence Street Type: AVE

Residence Zip Code: 

Usual Occupation: HOUSEKEEPING DRS QUA

Industry: LINCOLN HOSPITAL

 

Death Year: 1994

File Number: 24929

Surname: CREHAN

First Name: M

Middle Initial: G

Sex: Female

Month of Birth: March

Day of Birth: 17

Year of Birth: 1999

Race: White

Hispanic Origin: No

Age Units: Years

Age: 95

Month of Death: November

Day of Death: 28

Death State: Connecticut

Death County: New London

Death Town: Stonington

Birth State: Connecticut

Birth Town: 999

Marital Status: Never Married

Decedent's Last Spouse: 

Education: Primary/Secondary

State of Residence: Connecticut

County of Residence: New London

Town of Residence: Waterford

Father's Surname: CREHAN

Residence House Number: 227

Residence Street Name: NIANTIC RIVER

Residence Street Type: RD

Residence Zip Code: 

Usual Occupation: SUPERIOR CT & OFFICE

Industry: MARSH DAY & CALHOUN

 

Death Year: 1996

File Number: 08345

Surname: CREHAN

First Name: PATRICK

Middle Initial: B

Sex: Male

Month of Birth: August

Day of Birth: 12

Year of Birth: 1966

Race: White

Hispanic Origin: No

Age Units: Years

Age: 29

Month of Death: April

Day of Death: 01

Death State: Connecticut

Death County: Fairfield

Death Town: Ridgefield

Birth State: Connecticut

Birth Town: 999

Marital Status: Married

Decedent's Last Spouse: LYNN

Education: 5+ Years College

State of Residence: Connecticut

County of Residence: Fairfield

Town of Residence: Ridgefield

Father's Surname: CREHAN

Residence House Number: 362

Residence Street Name: DANBURY

Residence Street Type: RD

Residence Zip Code: 

Usual Occupation: ATTORNEY

Industry: CREHAN & CREHAN

 

Eileen

leedon@maxinter.net

 

From:      "leedon" <leedon@maxinter.net>  | Date:     Mon, 1 May 2000 20:32:35 -0700

 Subject:        [CRYAN] AGBI     To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Search Terms: CREHAN (3)

Database: American Genealogical-Biographical Index (AGBI)

Combined Matches: 3

Surname  - Given Name(s) -  Maiden Name - Birth Date -  Birth Place -

Reference

LANG      -    Josephine       -  (Crehan)           -

               - A gen. Of the 1st five gens. In Amer. Of the Lang

fam.,des. Of Robt. Lang fisherman, with some notices of allied fams. By H.P.

Moore. [Rutland, Vt., 1935] (98p.):84

 

CREHAN  -  Harriet Eliza    -   (Deming)           -     1818    -   

NewYork    -   Deming fam. by S. V. Deming. New York, 1912. (8p.):187

 

CREHAN  -   John                -                               -

 181?    -    New York     -  Deming fam. by S. V. Deming. New York,

1912.(8p.):187

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From:       "leedon" <leedon@maxinter.net>  | Date:      Mon, 1 May 2000 20:37:48 -0700

 Subject:        [CRYAN] REHAN, Ada,actress     To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Database: Full Context of Biographies of Notable Americans, 1904

Combined Matches:

Previous Page      Next Page

The Twentieth Century Biographical Dictionary of Notable Americans:

Volume    IX   R    Rehn, Frank Knox Morton

 

REHAN, Ada, actress, was born in Limerick, Ireland, April 22, 1860;

Daughter of Thomas and Harriet Crehan. She immigrated to the United States with

herparents in 1864, and settled in Brooklyn, N.Y., where she attended the

public schools until 1873. She made her first public appearance on the

stagein Newark, N.J., in 1873, taking the part of an actress in the company

ofOliver Doud Byron, then producing "Across the Continent." She succeeded

sowell that her parents decided upon her adopting the profession, which

wasfollowed by her older sisters as well. She studied for one year, and

thenplayed in support of Edwin Booth, Adelaide Neilson, John McCullough,

Mrs. D.P. Bowers, John T. Raymond and Lawrence Barrett in the rôles of

Ophelia,Desdemona, Celia, Olivia and other Shakesperian characters, in

Philadelphia,Baltimore, Albany, and Louisville stock companies. She declined the

offer ofleading lady in Edwin Booth's company to engage with Augustin Daly in

1878,and in 1879 made her appearance under his management at Daly's theatre,

NewYork city, as Nelly Beers in "Love's Young Dream" and as Lulu Ten Eyck

in"Divorce." She became very successful in such comedy rôles as Katherine

in"The Taming of the Shrew;" Rosalind in "As You Like It;" the Countess

Verain "The Last Word;" and the principal female characters in" Cinderella

atSchool;" "Needles and Pins;" "A Wooden Spoon;" "The Railroad of Love;"

"After Business Hours;" "Our English Friends," and "The Country Girl."

Sheachieved remarkable success in Daly's company in London and Paris, and

remained under the one manager until his death in 1899, when she

retiredfrom the stage.

Eileenleedon@maxinter.net

 

From:      "leedon" <leedon@maxinter.net>  |   Date:      Mon, 1 May 2000 20:39:57 -0700

 Subject:        [CRYAN] Biography & Genealogy Master Index     To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Search Terms: CREHAN (8)

Database: Biography & Genealogy Master Index (BGMI)

Combined Matches: 8

255654

Crehan, Frederic Joseph 1894?-1951

Biography Index. A cumulative index to biographical material in books

andmagazines. Volume 2: August, 1949-August, 1952. New York: H.W. Wilson

Co.,1953. (BioIn 2)

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255655

Crehan, James 1886-

Encyclopedia of American Biography. New Series. Volume 10. New York and

West

Palm Beach, FL: The American Historical Society, 1939. Use the Index to

locate biographies. (EncAB-A 10)

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255656

Crehan, Joseph 1884-1966

Dictionary of Pseudonyms. Third edition. By Adrian Room. Jefferson, NC:

McFarland & Co., 1998. (DcPseud)

The Filmgoer's Companion. Fourth edition. By Leslie Halliwell. New

York:

Hill & Wang, 1974. Later editions published as "Halliwell's Filmgoer's

Companion." (FilmgC)

Halliwell's Filmgoer's Companion. Eighth edition. By Leslie Halliwell.

New

York: Charles Scribner's Sons, 1984. Earlier editions published as "The

Filmgoer's Companion." (HalFC 84)

Halliwell's Filmgoer's Companion. Ninth edition. By Leslie Halliwell.

New

York: Charles Scribner's Sons, 1988. Earlier editions published as "The

Filmgoer's Companion." (HalFC 88)

The Movie Makers. By Sol Chaneles and Albert Wolsky. Secaucus, NJ:

Derbibooks, 1974. The "Directors" section begins on page 506. (MovMk)

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255657

Crehan, Joseph 1886-1966

The Versatiles. A study of supporting character actors and actresses in

the

American motion picture, 1930-1955. By Alfred E. Twomey and Arthur F.

McClure. South Brunswick, NJ: A.S. Barnes & Co.; London: Thomas

Yoseloff,

1969. "Biographical Section" begins on page 25. (Vers A)

Who Was Who on Screen. First edition. By Evelyn Mack Truitt. New York:

R.R.

Bowker Co., 1974. (WhScrn 74)

Who Was Who on Screen. Second edition. By Evelyn Mack Truitt. New York:

R.R.

Bowker Co., 1977. (WhScrn 77)

Who Was Who on Screen. Third edition. By Evelyn Mack Truitt. New York:

R.R.

Bowker Co., 1983. (WhScrn 83)

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255658

Crehan, Joseph Hugh 1906-

The Author's and Writer's Who's Who. Sixth edition. Darien, CT: Hafner

Publishing Co., 1971. (Au&Wr 71)

The International Authors and Writers Who's Who. Seventh edition.

Edited by

Ernest Kay. Cambridge: International Biographical Centre, 1976.

(IntAu&W 76)

The International Authors and Writers Who's Who. Eighth edition. Edited

by

Adrian Gaster. Cambridge: International Biographical Centre, 1977.

(IntAu&W

77)

The International Authors and Writers Who's Who. Ninth edition. Edited

by

Adrian Gaster. Cambridge: International Biographical Centre, 1982.

(IntAu&W

82)

Who's Who in the World. Third edition, 1976-1977. Wilmette, IL: Marquis

Who's Who, 1976. (WhoWor 76)

The Writers Directory. Third edition, 1976-1978. London: St. James

Press;

New York: St. Martin's Press, 1976. (WrDr 76)

The Writers Directory. Fourth edition, 1980-1982. London: St. James

Press;

New York: St. Martin's Press, 1979. (WrDr 80)

The Writers Directory. Fifth edition, 1982-1984. Detroit: Gale

Research,

1981. (WrDr 82)

The Writers Directory. Sixth edition, 1984-1986. Chicago: St. James

Press,

1983. (WrDr 84)

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255659

Crehan, Martin Bernard 1916-

Who's Who in Finance and Industry. 20th edition, 1977-1978. Wilmette,

IL:

Marquis Who's Who, 1977. (WhoFI 77)

Who's Who in Finance and Industry. 21st edition, 1979-1980. Wilmette,

IL:

Marquis Who's Who, 1979. (WhoFI 79)

Who's Who in the West. 15th edition, 1976-1977. Wilmette, IL: Marquis

Who's

Who, 1976. (WhoWest 76)

Who's Who in the West. 16th edition, 1978-1979. Wilmette, IL: Marquis

Who's

Who, 1978. (WhoWest 78)

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255660

Crehan, Thomas 1919-

The Author's and Writer's Who's Who. Sixth edition. Darien, CT: Hafner

Publishing Co., 1971. (Au&Wr 71)

Contemporary Authors. A bio-bibliographical guide to current writers in

fiction, general nonfiction, poetry, journalism, drama, motion

pictures,television, and other fields. Volumes 5-8, 1st revision. Detroit: Gale

Research, 1969. (ConAu 5R)

Contemporary Authors, New Revision Series. A bio-bibliographical guide

tocurrent writers in fiction, general nonfiction, poetry, journalism,

drama,motion pictures, television, and other fields. Volume 2. Detroit: Gale

Research, 1981. (ConAu 2NR)

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255661

Crehan, Thomas J 1912-

International Motion Picture Almanac. 1975 edition. New York: Quigley

Publishing Co., 1975. (IntMPA 75)

International Motion Picture Almanac. 1976 edition. New York: Quigley

Publishing Co., 1976. (IntMPA 76)

International Motion Picture Almanac. 1977 edition. New York: Quigley

Publishing Co., 1977. (IntMPA 77)

International Motion Picture Almanac. 1978 edition. New York: Quigley

Publishing Co., 1978. (IntMPA 78)

----

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From:        "leedon" <leedon@maxinter.net>  | Date:        Mon, 1 May 2000 21:04:16 -0700

 Subject:        [CRYAN] Directory-CREHAN     To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Name:

Date: 1882

Town or Ward: East Greenbush

Name of Supervisor:

Mortgagor: Henry H Crehan & another

Mortgagee: Barnes C Strait

What Was Done To Body:

Residence:

Judge:

Position:

Compensation:

Rank in Military:

Death Date:

Applicant:

Wife or Widow of::

Comments: RENSSELAER COUNTY MORTGAGE TAXES 1908

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Database: Full Context of Tennessee Records

Combined Matches:

Previous Page      Next Page

Tennessee Records

Established in 1868

 

Ellen Crehan, June, 1872.

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Search Terms: CREHAN (1)

Database: Los Angeles, California City Directories, 1888-90

Combined Matches: 1

 

H. W. Crehan       255 South Main Los Angeles CA 1888

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Search Terms: CREHAN (3)

Database: New York City Directory, 1869

Combined Matches: 3

 

 Crehan Ann, wid. Michael, h 601 W. 47th

Crehan Charles E. produce, 248 Fulton, h B'klyn

Crehan John, driver, h r 509 E. 13th

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Database: Full Context of New York City Directory, 1890

Combined Matches:

 

Crehan John, butcher, h 419 Tenth av.

Crehan Julia, wid. John, h 301 E. 34th

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Search Terms: CREHAN (1)

Database: San Francisco, CA City Directory, 1889-90

Combined Matches: 1

 

Name -Business Name -Occupation -Location 1- Location 2 -City -State

Year

Willoughby M. Crehan -Wolff Fleisher -clerk  -      - NE cor Second and

Folsom -San Francisco- CA -1889

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From:       "leedon" <leedon@maxinter.net>  | Date:     Mon, 1 May 2000 21:40:49 -0700

 Subject:        [CRYAN] DC Census 1800-90     To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Search Terms: CRAHAN (6)

Database: District of Columbia Census, 1800-90

Combined Matches: 6

 

Year Surname Given Name (s) County State Page Township or Other Info

Record

Type Database ID#

 

1860 CRAHAN JAMES Washington County DC 303 Washington City 1stward

FederalPopulation Schedule DC 1860 Federal Census Index DC3796348

 

1860 CRAHAN JAMES Washington County DC 304 Washington City 1stward

FederalPopulation Schedule DC 1860 Federal Census Index DC3796349

 

1860 CRAHAN JOHN Washington County DC 279 Washington City 4thward

FederalPopulation Schedule DC 1860 Federal Census Index DC37921754

 

1860 CRAHAN PATRICK Washington County DC 278 Washington City 4thward

FederalPopulation Schedule DC 1860 Federal Census Index DC37921753

 

1860 CRAHAN PATRICK Washington County DC 304 Washington City 1stward

FederalPopulation Schedule DC 1860 Federal Census Index DC3796350

 

1870 CRAHAN NANORCH Washington DC 820 4th Ward Washington Federal

PopulationSchedule DC 1870 Federal Census Index DC51347435

Eileenleedon@maxinter.net

 

From:        "leedon" <leedon@maxinter.net>  | Date:     Mon, 1 May 2000 21:48:30 -0700

 Subject:        [CRYAN] Census - CRAHAN      To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Search Terms: CRAHAN (1)

Database: Alabama Census, 1810-90

Combined Matches: 1

Year Surname Given Name (s) County State Page Township or Other Info

Record

Type Database ID#

1850 CRAHAN PETER Mobile County AL 438 Mobile Federal Population

Schedule AL

1850 Federal Census Index ALS5a391702

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Search Terms: CRAHAN (4)

Database: Colorado Census, 1860-80

Combined Matches: 4

 

 

Year Surname Given Name (s) County State Page Township or Other Info

RecordType Database ID#

 

1880 MC CRAHAN JERRY El Paso County CO 475 Manitou Village Federal

Population Schedule CO 1880 Federal Census Index COS7a3488139

 

1880 MC CRAHAN JERRY El Paso County CO 475 Manitou Village Federal

Population Schedule CO 1880 Federal Census Index COS7a3488140

 

1880 MC CRAHAN SARAH El Paso County CO 475 Manitou Village Federal

Population Schedule CO 1880 Federal Census Index COS7a3488142

 

1880 MC CRAHAN SARAH El Paso County CO 475 Manitou Village Federal

Population Schedule CO 1880 Federal Census Index COS7a3488143

 

Search Terms: CRAHAN (1)

Database: Connecticut Census, 1790-1890

Combined Matches: 1

Year Surname Given Name (s) County State Page Township or Other Info

Record

Type Database ID#

 

1850 CRAHAN BRIDGET Hartford County CT 254 Windsor Federal Population

Schedule CT 1850 Federal Census Index CTS6a690353

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Search Terms: CRAHAN (1)

Database: Georgia Census, 1790-1890

Combined Matches: 1

 

Year Surname Given Name (s) County State Page Township or Other Info

Record

Type Database ID#

 

1870 CRAHAN PATRICK Chatham County GA 410 Savannah Federal Population

Schedule GA 1870 Federal Census Index GA5167389

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Search Terms: CRAHAN (5)

Database: Illinois Census, 1810-90

Combined Matches: 5

 

Year Surname Given Name (s) County State Page Township or Other Info

RecordType Database ID#

 

1860 CRAHAN JOHN De Witt County IL 149 Town, Waynesville Federal

PopulationSchedule IL 1860 Federal Census Index IL37138068

 

1860 CRAHAN WILLIAM Henry County IL 832 Cambridge Federal Population

Schedule IL 1860 Federal Census Index IL37351116

 

1860 CRAHAN ANN La Salle County IL 1126 Lasalle Federal Population

ScheduleIL 1860 Federal Census Index IL37351113

 

1860 CRAHAN MARY La Salle County IL 1126 Lasalle Federal Population

ScheduleIL 1860 Federal Census Index IL37351114

 

1860 CRAHAN THOMAS Peoria County IL 920 Princeville Township Federal

Population Schedule IL 1860 Federal Census Index IL37351115

Eileenleedon@maxinter.net

 

From:       "leedon" <leedon@maxinter.net>     Date:     Mon, 1 May 2000 21:53:33 -0700

 Subject:        [CRYAN] Census - CRAHAN      To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Search Terms: CRAHAN (4)

Database: Indiana Census, 1790-1890

Combined Matches: 4

 

Year Surname Given Name (s) County State Page Township or Other Info

RecordType Database ID#

 

1860 CRAHAN MARGARET Jefferson County IN 678 Madison 5w Federal

Population

Schedule IN 1860 Federal Census Index IN37748468

 

1860 CRAHAN MARTIN Jefferson County IN 717 Madison 9w Federal

Population

Schedule IN 1860 Federal Census Index IN37748469

 

1860 CRAHAN THOMAS Jefferson County IN 773 Madison Township. Federal

Population Schedule IN 1860 Federal Census Index IN37748470

 

1850 MC CRAHAN JOHN Posey County IN 177 Mt Vernon Federal Population

Schedule IN 1850 Federal Census Index INS7a3488141

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Search Terms: CRAHAN (6)

Database: Louisiana Census, 1810-90

Combined Matches: 6

 

Year Surname Given Name (s) County State Page Township or Other Info

Record

Type Database ID#

 

1850 CRAHAN JOSEPH JR. Calcasieu Parish LA 368 No Township Listed

Federal

Population Schedule LA 1850 Federal Census Index LAS5a391697

 

1850 CRAHAN JOSEPH SR. Calcasieu Parish LA 369 No Township Listed

Federal

Population Schedule LA 1850 Federal Census Index LAS5a391698

 

1860 CRAHAN JAMES Jefferson Parish LA 570 Jefferson City Federal

Population

Schedule LA 1860 Federal Census Index LA39026592

 

1850 CRAHAN MARY Orleans Parish LA 364 3rd Rep Dist Federal Population

Schedule LA 1850 Federal Census Index LAS5a391699

 

1850 CRAHAN SAINTVILLE St.Landrypar LA 763 No Township. Listed Slave

Schedule LA 1850 Slave Schedule LA4704903

 

1850 CRAHAN CHARLES Stlandrypar. LA 086 No Township Listed Federal

Population Schedule LA 1850 Federal Census Index LAS5a391696

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Search Terms: CRAHAN (1)

Database: Maryland Census, 1790-1890

Combined Matches: 1

 

Year Surname Given Name (s) County State Page Township or Other Info

RecordType Database ID#

 

1850 CRAHAN PATRICK Baltimore County MD 448 1st District Federal

Population

Schedule MD 1850 Federal Census Index MDS5a391701

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From:        "leedon" <leedon@maxinter.net>  | Date:        Mon, 1 May 2000 22:04:00 -0700

 Subject:        [CRYAN] Census - CRAHAN      To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Search Terms: CRAHAN (3)

Database: Michigan Census, 1827-70

Combined Matches: 3

Year Surname Given Name (s) County State Page Township or Other Info

RecordType Database ID#

 

1850 CRAHAN MARY Kent County MI 390 Grand Rapids Federal Population

Schedule

MI 1850 Federal Census Index MIS7a1180015

 

1850 CRAHAN MARY Kent County MI 390 Grand Rapids Federal Population

Schedule

MI 1850 Federal Census Index MIS7a1180016

 

1860 CRAHAN PETER Kent County MI 350 2 W. Grand Rapids Federal

Population

Schedule MI 1860 Federal Census Index MI54349870

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Search Terms: CRAHAN (2)

Database: Minnesota Census, 1835-90

Combined Matches: 2

 

Year Surname Given Name (s) County State Page Township or Other Info

RecordType Database ID#

 

1880 CRAHAN MARTIN Sibley County MN 249 Faxon Township Federal

Population

Schedule MN 1880 Federal Census Index MN19925231

 

1880 CRAHAN MICHAEL Sibley County MN 254 Faxon Township Federal

Population

Schedule MN 1880 Federal Census Index MN19925232

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Search Terms: CRAHAN (1)

Database: Missouri Census, 1830-70

Combined Matches: 1

 

Year Surname Given Name (s) County State Page Township or Other Info

RecordType Database ID#

 

1870 CRAHAN JAMES Henry County MO 373 Tebo Township Federal Population

Schedule MO 1870 Federal Census Index MO29847210

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Search Terms: CRAHAN (2)

Database: Montana Census, 1870-90

Combined Matches: 2

 

 

Year Surname Given Name (s) County State Page Township or Other Info

RecordType Database ID#

 

1880 CRAHAN MARTIN Meagher County MT 413 Missouri River Valley Federal

Population Schedule MT 1880 Federal Census Index MT16528867

 

1880 CRAHAN THOMAS Meagher County MT 413 Missouri River Valley Federal

Population Schedule MT 1880 Federal Census Index MT16528866

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Search Terms: CRAHAN (2)

Database: Pennsylvania Census, 1772-1890

Combined Matches: 2

 

 

Year Surname Given Name (s) County State Page Township or Other Info

RecordType Database ID#

 

1860 CRAHAN WILLIAM Allegheny County PA 264 N. Fayette Township Federal

Population Schedule PA 1860 Federal Census Index PA45211311

 

1870 CRAHAN PATRICK Luzerne County PA 415 Exeter Twp Federal Population

Schedule PA 1870 Federal Census Index PA5398671

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Search Terms: CRAHAN (1)

Database: Vermont Census, 1790-1860

Combined Matches: 1

 

Year Surname Given Name (s) County State Page Township or Other Info

RecordType Database ID#

 

1850 CRAHAN JOHN Chittenden County VT 062 Richmond Federal Population

Schedule VT 1850 Federal Census Index VTS6a690354

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Search Terms: CRAHAN (2)

Database: Virginia Census, 1800-90

Combined Matches: 2

 

Year Surname Given Name (s) County State Page Township or Other Info

RecordType Database ID#

 

1850 CRAHAN MICHAEL Botetourt County VA 124 8th District Federal

PopulationSchedule VA 1850 Federal Census Index VAS5a391700

 

1870 CRAHAN JOHN Henricounty County VA 197 Marshall W. Richmond Federal

Population Schedule VA 1870 Federal Census Index VA2235412

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Eileen

leedon@maxinter.net

 

From:        "leedon" <leedon@maxinter.net>  | Date:        Mon, 1 May 2000 22:05:58 -0700

 Subject:        [CRYAN] Census - CRAHAN      To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

 

 

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Search Terms: CRAHAN (11)

Database: New York Census, 1790-1890

Combined Matches: 11

Next Hits

 

Year Surname Given Name (s) County State Page Township or Other Info

RecordType Database ID#

 

1860 CRAHAN JOHN Genesee County NY 182 Batavia Federal Population

Schedule

NY 1860 Federal Census Index NY58372797

 

1860 CRAHAN THOMAS Genesee County NY 184 Batavia Federal Population

Schedule

NY 1860 Federal Census Index NY58372798

 

1860 CRAHAN JANE New York County NY 652 8 W. Nyc Dist. 4 Federal

Population

Schedule NY 1860 Federal Census Index NY58558900

 

1860 CRAHAN JOHN New York County NY 898 21 W. Nyc Dist. 4 Federal

Population

Schedule NY 1860 Federal Census Index NY58558901

 

1850 CRAHAN PHILIP New York County NY 084 New York City Ward 4 Federal

Population Schedule NY 1850 Federal Census Index NYS6a690358

 

1860 CRAHAN MALACHI Otsego County NY 595 Otsego Federal Population

Schedule

NY 1860 Federal Census Index NY58659332

 

1840 CRAHAN JOHN JJ. Rensselaer County NY 149 Greenbush Federal

Population

Schedule NY 1840 Federal Census Index NYS4a610708

 

1840 CRAHAN JOHN W. Rensselaer County NY 149 Greenbush Federal

Population

Schedule NY 1840 Federal Census Index NYS4a610709

 

1850 CRAHAN PATRICK Saratoga County NY 149 Northumberland Federal

Population

Schedule NY 1850 Federal Census Index NYS6a690357

 

1850 CRAHAN NARRY St. Lawrence County NY 213 Lisbon Federal Population

Schedule NY 1850 Federal Census Index NYS6a690356

Eileenleedon@maxinter.net

 

Reply-to:         "FamSpack" < >    From:         "FamSpack" < >  |    Date:      Wed, 3 May 2000 13:24:03 +0100  Subject:         [CRYAN] 1901 census -Leitrim and Roscommon list ETC.      To:         CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

This very useful tool is now at the 90% level of completion for

Roscommon.I suggest that you buy a map to find where the townlands are  Irish OS

Discovery series 1: 50.000 map numbers 32,  33, and 40 cover most of Co Roscommon.

Most "good" book shops will have it in stock whether UK,Ireland or USA.

Ifnot ask them to order them.

 

When seaching the 1901 census (new bits coming all the time)

1. do a search with only the surname of the head of the household's

surname

2. do a separate search entering the surname you want in the "others

enumerated box" , leaving the rest blank. This will give lots of strays

whowere visitors on that night of census, working away, even step children

of adifferent surname

3. do a separate search using just the relevant townland and it will

giveall the neighbours who often turn up as, for example witnesses to

weddingsor baptisms.

 

NB .      Ballynanultagh,Drumanone,Kiltycreaghtan etc are in a group of

townlands 1 to 2 miles west of Boyle town, just the other side of the

CurlewMts (all of 700 feet high) from Derrygolagh, Dernaskeagh and Toomour

andCloonycarn where there are Cryans, all in Co Sligo (see map 33)

There were also questions about LeCarrow also, there are several of

these, 3at least on map 33. the likliest one that is useful to will be the one

nearest to your Cryans.

NB..... I have just been looking at the Ballaghadereen parish registers

onfilm - many variations of the spelling Crien, Crahen, even Kane, though

thisnot etablished.

MANY appear in Ballaghadereen RC Church registers AND the same families

appear in GURTEEN Civil Register. I have to sort them out yet.

Until again, will not be available now for a few weeks , Eve

 

From:        "leedon" <leedon@maxinter.net>     Date:        Wed, 3 May 2000 20:27:12 -0700

 Subject:        [CRYAN] CRYAN #1     To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Search Terms: CRYAN (1)

Database: AIS Mortality Schedules Index

Combined Matches: 1

 

Year Surname Given Name(s) County State Age Sex Month of Death State of

Birth Cause of Death Occupation ID#

1860 CRYAN DEAN BUCKS CO. PA 32 F JAN GR CANCER NONE LISTED MRT317_7571

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Search Terms: CRYAN (1)

Database: California Census, 1790-1890

Combined Matches: 1

 

Year Surname Given Name (s) County State Page Township or Other Info

Record

Type Database ID#

1870 CRYAN THOMAS Solano County CA 173 Vallejo Federal Population

Schedule

CA 1870 Federal Census Index CA12949426

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Search Terms: CRYAN (1)

Database: Delaware Census, 1790-1890

Combined Matches: 1

 

Year Surname Given Name (s) County State Page Township or Other Info

Record

Type Database ID#

1830 O CRYAN JOHN New Castle County DE 105 Brandywine Hundred Federal

Population Schedule DE 1830 Federal Census Index DE559441456

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Search Terms: CRYAN (2)

Database: Illinois Census, 1810-90

Combined Matches: 2

 

Year Surname Given Name (s) County State Page Township or Other Info

Record

Type Database ID#

1860 CRYAN LEURA Macoupin County IL 129 Virden P. O. Federal Population

Schedule IL 1860 Federal Census Index IL37139946

1860 CRYAN MICAJA Macoupin County IL 128 Virden P. O. Federal

Population

Schedule IL 1860 Federal Census Index IL37139947

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Search Terms: CRYAN (2)

Database: Iowa Census, 1838-70

Combined Matches: 2

 

Year Surname Given Name (s) County State Page Township or Other Info

Record

Type Database ID#

1870 CRYAN BRIDGET Muscatine County IA 351 Wilton Township Federal

Population Schedule IA 1870 Federal Census Index IA01883081

1870 CRYAN MICHAEL Muscatine County IA 350 Wilton Township Federal

Population Schedule IA 1870 Federal Census Index IA01883082

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Search Terms: CRYAN (2)

Database: Maine Census, 1800-90

Combined Matches: 2

 

Year Surname Given Name (s) County State Page Township or Other Info

Record

Type Database ID#

1870 CRYAN MARY Cumberland County ME 066 Brunswick Federal Population

Schedule ME 1870 Federal Census Index ME3639813

1870 CRYAN MICHAEL Cumberland County ME 066 Brunswick Federal

Population

Schedule ME 1870 Federal Census Index ME3639814

 

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Search Terms: CRYAN (5)

Database: Massachusetts Census, 1790-1890

Combined Matches: 5

 

Year Surname Given Name (s) County State Page Township or Other Info

RecordType Database ID#

1860 CRYAN JASON Bristol County MA 079 Taunton Federal Population

Schedule

MA 1860 Federal Census Index MA23629317

1860 CRYAN MICHAEL Bristol County MA 443 Attleborough Federal

Population

Schedule MA 1860 Federal Census Index MA23629318

1860 CRYAN THOMAS Essex County MA 849 6 W. Lynn Federal Population

Schedule

MA 1860 Federal Census Index MA23629319

1850 CRYAN JOHN Suffolk County MA 080 Boston 8th Ward Federal

Population

Schedule MA 1850 Federal Census Index MAS6a723177

1860 CRYAN PATRICK Suffolk County MA 129 7 W. Boston Federal Population

Schedule MA 1860 Federal Census Index MA17318337

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Search Terms: CRYAN (1)

Database: Minnesota Census, 1835-90

Combined Matches: 1

 

Year Surname Given Name (s) County State Page Township or Other Info

RecordType Database ID#

1870 CRYAN SARAH Hennepin County MN 349 Minneapolis 2nd Ward Federal

Population Schedule MN 1870 Federal Census Index MNS7a123

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Search Terms: CRYAN (1)

Database: Nevada Census, 1860-1910

Combined Matches: 1

 

Year Surname Given Name (s) County State Page Township or Other Info

RecordType Database ID#

1910 CRYAN MICHAEL Churchill County NV 002 Jessup Precinct Federal

Population Schedule NV 1910 Federal Census Index NV13017171

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Search Terms: CRYAN (3)

Database: New Jersey Census, 1772-1890

Combined Matches: 3

 

Year Surname Given Name (s) County State Page Township or Other Info

RecordType Database ID#

1870 CRYAN JOHN Essex County NJ 293 Montclair Twp Federal Population

Schedule NJ 1870 Federal Census Index NJ30416709

1870 CRYAN MARY Essex County NJ 293 Montclair Twp Federal Population

Schedule NJ 1870 Federal Census Index NJ30416710

1860 CRYAN JAMES Union County NJ 159 Rahway Township Federal Population

Schedule NJ 1860 Federal Census Index NJ20029639

Hope this helps someone,

Eileenleedon@maxinter.net

 

From:        "leedon" <leedon@maxinter.net>  |    Date:      Wed, 3 May 2000 20:35:42 -0700

 Subject:        [CRYAN] Cryan #2      To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Search Terms: CRYAN (1)

Database: Houston, Texas City Directory, 1917

Combined Matches: 1

Name Trade Business Business Address Residence Address Telephone

Comments

Cornelius T Cryan       res: 113 E 29th av Ho Hts

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Search Terms: CRYAN (1)

Database: Kansas City, Missouri City Directories, 1889-91

Combined Matches: 1

Name Business Name Occupation Location 1 Location 2 City State Year

John Cryan   clerk   rooms 9 e 8th   MO

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Search Terms: CRYAN (8)

Database: New York City Directory, 1890

Combined Matches: 8

 

Cryan J. W. letters, 1093 Park av.

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View full context

Cryan James A. clerk, h 126 W. 123d

View full context

Cryan John, driver, h 427 E. 149th

View full context

Cryan John J. liquors, 50 Rutgers & 587 Grand, h 69 South

View full context

Cryan Thomas J. liquors, 50 Rutgers, 587 Grand & 69 South, h 163 Henry

View full context

Cryan Brothers, liquors, 50 Rutgers, 587 Grand & 69 South

View full context

Cryder Duncan, v. pres. 202 Fifth av. h 35 W. 19th

View full context

Cryder William Wetmore, pres. 202 Fifth av. h Tuxedo pk. N. Y.

View full context

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Search Terms: CRYAN (12)

Database: Toledo, Ohio Directories, 1889-1891

Combined Matches: 12

Next Hits

Name Business Name Occupation Location 1 Location 2 City State Year

Frank Cryan   fireman   boards John Cryan, E T Toledo OH 1889, 1890

Helen A Cryan       boards John Cryan, E T Toledo OH 1889, 1890

James B Cryan L S & M S Ry clerk   620 S Erie Toledo OH 1889, 1890

John Cryan   gardener   s s Miami e of Oregon road, E T Toledo OH 1889,

1890

Mary Cryan T H Hamilton, E T domestic     Toledo OH 1889, 1890

Mary Cryan (widow Patrick)         Toledo OH 1889, 1890

Frank Cryan   laborer   boards John Cryan, E T Toledo OH 1890, 1891

James B Cryan L S & M S Ry car recorder   225 South Toledo OH 1890,

1891

John Cryan   gardener   s s Miami 2 e of Oregon rd, E T Toledo OH 1890,

1891

Katie Cryan   domestic 2218 Collingwood avenue   Toledo OH 1890, 1891

Mary Cryan T N Hamilton domestic E T   Toledo OH 1890, 1891

Nellie A Cryan       boards John Cryan, E T Toledo OH 1890, 1891

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Search Terms: CRYAN (1)

Database: Wilkes-Barre, Pennsylvania Directories, 1889-1892

Combined Matches: 1

 

Name Business Name Occupation Location 1 Location 2 City State Year

Annie M. Cryan   domestic   43 Wood's al Wilkes-Barre PA 1890

Eileenleedon@maxinter.net

 

From:        "leedon" <leedon@maxinter.net>  | Date:        Wed, 3 May 2000 20:36:26 -0700

 Subject:        [CRYAN] CRYAN #3     To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Search Terms: CRYAN (9)

Database: Connecticut Death Index, 1949-96

Combined Matches: 9

Name Death Date Death Place

CRYAN, KAREN  September 25, 1949 Bridgeport, Fairfield, Connecticut

CRYAN, BELLE C October 17, 1963 Deep River, Middlesex, Connecticut

CRYAN, JOHN J August 30, 1966 Essex, Middlesex, Connecticut

CRYAN, PEARL M March 01, 1977 Fairfield,  , Connecticut

CRYAN, SARA  June 04, 1984 Hartford,  , Connecticut

CRYAN, HOWARD T January 16, 1980 Milford,  , Connecticut

DECERBO, JANET L February 14, 1989 Bridgeport, Fairfield, Connecticut

HERSAM, AGNES  October 05, 1989 New Canaan, Fairfield, Connecticut

CRYAN, LORETTA M December 04, 1991 Hamden, Out-of-State, Florida

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Search Terms: CRYAN (9)

Database: Michigan Death Index, 1971-96

Combined Matches: 9

 

Surname Given Name Residence Birth Death

Cryan  Patrick J. St Joseph, Berrien, Michigan 05 December 1915 18

January1996

CRYAN  Anna   Kalamazoo, Kalamazoo, Michigan 02 April 1909 26 March

1992

CRYAN  Emma A Plainwell, Allegan, Michigan 20 July 1898 20 July 1991

CRYAN  Louise P St Joseph, Berrien, Michigan 17 March 1918 17 September

1992

CRYAN  Jessie M Tawas City, Iosco, Michigan 12 April 1892 08 January

1989

CRYAN  Louise J St Joseph, Berrien, Michigan 03 December 90 17 May 84

CRYAN  Mary E Grand Rapids, Kent, Michigan 22 06 98 30 January 84

CRYAN  Mary E Galesburg, Kalamazoo, Michigan 06 November 01 13 January

86

CRYAN SCHOMMER  Winifred   Kalamazoo, Kalamazoo, Michigan 29 March 1918

17

July 1989

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Search Terms: CRYAN (1)

Database: North Carolina Death Records, 1993-96

Combined Matches: 1

 

Name: CRYAN, JAMES THOMAS

Date of Birth: November 11, 1922

Death Date: November 25, 1994

Sex: Male

Race: White

Age: 72 Years

Place of Occurance:  , Haywood, North Carolina

Place of Residence:  . Haywood, North Carolina

Autopsy: No

Hospital: General Hospital 100 Beds & Over

Marital Status: Married

Attendant: Physician

Mode of Burial: Burial in state

State of Birth: Massachusetts

Social Security Number: 022168028

Fathers Surname: CRYAN

Place of Injury:

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Search Terms: CRYAN (4)

Database: Ohio Death Index, 1958-69

Combined Matches: 4

 

Name Death Date Death Place

CRYAN, MICHAEL J February 18, 1960 Cincinnati, Hamilton County

CRYAN, JOHN J May 11, 1961 Toledo, Lucas County

CRYAN, JAMES B April 28, 1964 Perrysburg, Wood County

CRYAN, JOSEPH H October 21, 1965 Toledo, Lucas County

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Search Terms: CRYAN (1)

Database: Rhode Island Death Records

Combined Matches: 1

 

Name Relation Kin 1 Kin 2 Death Date Age Comment

John Cryan   John Cryan Rosa Cruz 27 Aug 1900 35 yrs

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Search Terms: CRYAN (2)

Database: Rhode Island Marriage Records

Combined Matches: 2

 

Spouse 1 Spouse 2 Marriage Date Comment

John Cryan Annie Tymon 09 Dec 1875

Annie Tymon John Cryan 09 Dec 1875

Eileenleedon@maxinter.net

 

From:        "leedon" <leedon@maxinter.net>  | Date:        Wed, 3 May 2000 20:38:02 -0700

 Subject:        [CRYAN] CRYAN #4     To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Search Terms: CRYAN (2)

Database: Ohio Military Men, 1917-18

Combined Matches: 2

 

Name Race Residence Enlistment Location Enlistment Date Birth Place

BirthDate / Age

John J. Cryan W 11448 Euclid Ave., Cleveland, O. Cleveland, O. 23 Jan

1918

Toledo, O. 26 2/12 Years

Thomas E. Cryan W Mowaster Aden, Ballaghaderreen, Ireland Cleveland, O.

12

Feb 1918 Ireland 24 8/12 Years

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Search Terms: CRYAN (1)

Database: Revolutionary War Muster Rolls, 1775-83

Combined Matches: 1

 

Surname Given Name Middle Initial Company Unit Rank - Induction Rank -

Discharge Notes ROLL-BOX ROLL-EXCT

CRYAN JOHN       PRIVT     20

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Search Terms: CRYAN (1)

Database: Vietnam Casualty Index

Combined Matches: 1

 

Name Service

Number Date

of Birth Date

of Death City

of Record State

of Record Context

Cryan Kenneth Michael 19884279 07/25/45 05/04/68 San Mateo California

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Search Terms: CRYAN (3)

Database: Canadian Immigrant Records, Part One

Combined Matches: 3

 

Surname Given Name or Title Age Year of Record Comments Source/Event

Reference

CRYAN Martin 20 1881 Arrived on the 'Scandinavian' Ship's Passenger

Lists:Arrivals at the Port of Halifax National Archives of Canada, Microfilm

ReelNo. C-4511, page 1

CRYAN Martin 55 1881 Arrived on the 'Scandinavian' Ship's Passenger

Lists:Arrivals at the Port of Halifax National Archives of Canada, Microfilm

ReelNo. C-4511, page 1

CRYAN Mary 17 1881 Arrived on the 'Scandinavian' Ship's Passenger

Lists:Arrivals at the Port of Halifax National Archives of Canada, Microfilm

ReelNo. C-4511, page 1

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Search Terms: CRYAN (1)

Database: Canadian Immigrant Records, Part Two

Combined Matches: 1

Surname Given Name Marital Status Occupation Year of Record Comments

Source/Event Reference

 

Cryan Michl.   Sailor Lt. W. 1812 (Ervis) is recorded in this entry; it

islikely the former place of residence. The numer 20 is also recorded; it

itpossible that this is his age. List of settlers and servants engaged

for theHudson's Bay Company and Lord Selkirk, 1812. Transcribed from (film of)

original documents held in the collection of the National Archives of

Canada[Ottawa]: Thomas Douglas, 5th Earl of Selkirk, MG 19 E1, vol. 2, page

560,reel C-1

Eileenleedon@maxinter.net

 

From:        "leedon" <leedon@maxinter.net>     Date:        Wed, 3 May 2000 20:39:27 -0700

 Subject:        [CRYAN] CRYAN #5     To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Search Terms: CRYAN (2)

Database: Biography & Genealogy Master Index (BGMI)

Combined Matches: 2

261386

Cryan, Robert W W 1866?-1907

The Poets of Ireland. A biographical and bibliographical dictionary of

Irishwriters of English verse. By D.J. O'Donoghue. Dublin, Ireland: Hodges

Figgis& Co.; London: Henry Frowde, Oxford University Press, 1912. Reprint.

Detroit: Gale Research, 1968. "The Poets of Ireland" begins on page 5.

TheAppendices begin on page 495. (PoIre)

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396439

Fraser, Neil Cryan 1903-

Canadian Who's Who. A biographical dictionary of notable living men and

women. Volume 12, 1970-1972. Toronto: Who's Who Canadian Publications,

1972.

(CanWW 70)

Canadian Who's Who. A biographical dictionary of notable living men and

women. Volume 14. Edited by Kieran Simpson. Toronto: University of

Toronto

Press, 1979. (CanWW 79)

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Search Terms: CRYAN (6)

Database: American Civil War Soldiers

Combined Matches: 6

 

Name State Served Enlist Date Enlist Rank Enlist Age Enlist Place Army

  Patrick   Cryan Massachusetts 31 July 1862 Priv 20   Union

  Michael   Cryan Rhode Island 15 February 1862 Priv   Providence, RI

Union

  Thomas   Cryan Rhode Island 11 February 1862 Sergeant   Providence,

RIUnion

  John   Cryan New Jersey 15 June 1864 Priv     Union

  Michael   Cryan Maine 29 September 1862 Priv 36   Union

  Donnick   Cryan Georgia 04 March 1862 Priv     Confederacy

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Search Terms: CRYAN (11)

Database: Civil War Muster Rolls

Combined Matches: 11

Next Hits

 

Surname Given Name Middle Initial Company Unit Rank - Induction Rank -

Discharge Notes Box # Extraction # Record #

Cryan Dananick   A 1 Reg't Alabama Infantry. Private Private   000374

0011

00001043

Cryan Dominick   C 46 Georgia Infantry. Private Private   000226 0015

00001064

Cryan John   C 11 New Jersey Infantry. Sergeant Sergeant   000550 0005

00002949

Cryan Michael     17 Maine Infantry. Private Private   000543 0005

00001648

Cryan Michael   K 20 Maine Infantry. Private     000543 0005 00001649

Cryan Michael   D 25 Maine Infantry. (9 Mos., 1862-3.) Private Private

Crayan, Michael 000543 0005 00001650

Cryan Michael   M 3 Rhode Island H. Art'y. Sergeant Corporal   000555

000200002434

Cryan Patrick   C 7 Pennsylvania Cavalry. Private Private   000554 0025

00000262

Cryan Patrick   A 9 Massachusetts Infantry. Private Private   000544

000900003365

Cryan Peter   C 82 Ohio Infantry. Private Private Cryon, Peter 000552

002300004161

Cryan Thomas   M 3 Rhode Island H. Art'y. Sergeant 1 Sergeant Crayon

Thomas.

000555 0002 00002435

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Eileenleedon@maxinter.net

 

From:     "leedon" <leedon@maxinter.net>     Date:    Wed, 3 May 2000 20:40:30 -0700

 Subject:        [CRYAN] CRYAN #6     To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Search Terms: CRYAN (4)

Database: New York Census, 1790-1890

Combined Matches: 4

Year Surname Given Name (s) County State Page Township or Other Info

RecordType Database ID#

1860 CRYAN THOMAS Chautauqua County NY 369 Irving Federal Population

Schedule NY 1860 Federal Census Index NY58376360

1860 CRYAN JOHN New York County NY 698 15 W. Nyc Dist. 1 Federal

Population

Schedule NY 1860 Federal Census Index NY58561306

1860 CRYAN MARY New York County NY 751 9 W. Nyc Div. 1 Federal

Population

Schedule NY 1860 Federal Census Index NY58561307

1870 CRYAN PATRICK Westchester County NY 317 Westchester Federal

Population

Schedule NY 1870 Federal Census Index NY3079632

 

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Search Terms: CRYAN (2)

Database: Ohio Census, 1790-1890

Combined Matches: 2

Year Surname Given Name (s) County State Page Township or Other Info

RecordType Database ID#

1870 CRYAN CECELIA* Lucas County OH 541 Washington Twp Federal

Population

Schedule OH 1870 Federal Census Index OH5265165

1870 CRYAN JAMES Lucas County OH 542 Washington Twp Federal Population

Schedule OH 1870 Federal Census Index OH5265166

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Search Terms: CRYAN (1)

Database: Pennsylvania Census, 1772-1890

Combined Matches: 1

 

Year Surname Given Name (s) County State Page Township or Other Info

RecordType Database ID#

1870 CRYAN MARY Luzerne County PA 573 Wilkes-barre Twp Federal

PopulationSchedule PA 1870 Federal Census Index PA5399019

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Search Terms: CRYAN (1)

Database: Texas Census, 1850-90

Combined Matches: 1

 

Year Surname Given Name (s) County State Page Township or Other Info

RecordType Database ID#

1880 CRYAN ANDERSON Brazoria County TX 153 E. D. 18 Federal Population

Schedule TX 1880 Federal Census Index TX28999628

 

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Search Terms: CRYAN (1)

Database: Vermont Census, 1790-1860

Combined Matches: 1

 

Year Surname Given Name (s) County State Page Township or Other Info

RecordType Database ID#

1840 HASSON CRYAN Orange County VT 111 Randolph Federal Population

Schedule

VT 1840 Federal Census Index VTS4a1192356

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Search Terms: CRYAN (2)

Database: Virginia Census, 1800-90

Combined Matches: 2

 

Year Surname Given Name (s) County State Page Township or Other Info

Record

Type Database ID#

1840 MC CRYAN HENRY Jackson County VA 222 No Township Listed Federal

Population Schedule VA 1840 Federal Census Index VAS4a1729946

1810 CRYAN HENRY Wythe County VA 824 20010-11010-00 Federal Population

Schedule VA 1810 Federal Census Index VAS1b872101

 

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Search Terms: CRYAN (12)

Database: South Dakota Census, 1870-90

Combined Matches: 12

Next Hits

 

Year Surname Given Name (s) County State Page Township or Other Info

RecordType Database ID#

1870 CRYAN BRIDGET Union County SD 123 Jefferson Federal Population

Schedule

SD 1870 Federal Census Index SDS7a1233375

1870 CRYAN BRIDGET Union County SD 123 Jefferson Federal Population

Schedule

SD 1870 Federal Census Index SDS7a1233377

1870 CRYAN DANIEL Union County SD 123 Jefferson Federal Population

Schedule

SD 1870 Federal Census Index SDS7a1233378

1870 CRYAN DANIEL Union County SD 123 Jefferson Federal Population

Schedule

SD 1870 Federal Census Index SDS7a1233380

1870 CRYAN MARTIN J. Union County SD 123 Jefferson Federal Population

Schedule SD 1870 Federal Census Index SDS7a1233381

1870 CRYAN MARTIN J. Union County SD 123 Jefferson Federal Population

Schedule SD 1870 Federal Census Index SDS7a1233383

1870 CRYAN MARY Union County SD 123 Jefferson Federal Population

Schedule SD

1870 Federal Census Index SDS7a1233384

1870 CRYAN MARY Union County SD 123 Jefferson Federal Population

Schedule SD

1870 Federal Census Index SDS7a1233386

1870 CRYAN PATRICK Union County SD 123 Jefferson Federal Population

Schedule

SD 1870 Federal Census Index SDS7a1233387

1870 CRYAN PATRICK Union County SD 123 Jefferson Federal Population

Schedule

SD 1870 Federal Census Index SDS7a123

Eileenleedon@maxinter.net

 

Reply-to:         "FamSpack" < >    From:     "FamSpack"  >  |     Date:         Wed, 3 May 2000 13:24:03 +0100  Subject:         [CRYAN] 1901 census -Leitrim and Roscommon list ETC.      To:         CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

 

This very useful tool is now at the 90% level of completion for

Roscommon.I suggest that you buy a map to find where the townlands are  Irish OS

Discovery series 1: 50.000

 map numbers 32,  33, and 40 cover most of Co Roscommon.

Most "good" book shops will have it in stock whether UK,Ireland or USA.

Ifnot ask them to order them.

When seaching the 1901 census (new bits coming all the time)

1. do a search with only the surname of the head of the household's

surname

2. do a separate search entering the surname you want in the "others

enumerated box" , leaving the rest blank. This will give lots of strays

whowere visitors on that night of census, working away, even step children

of adifferent surname

3. do a separate search using just the relevant townland and it will

giveall the neighbours who often turn up as, for example witnesses to

weddingsor baptisms.

NB .      Ballynanultagh,Drumanone,Kiltycreaghtan etc are in a group of

townlands 1 to 2 miles west of Boyle town, just the other side of the

CurlewMts (all of 700 feet high) from Derrygolagh, Dernaskeagh and Toomour

andCloonycarn where there are Cryans, all in Co Sligo (see map 33)

There were also questions about LeCarrow also, there are several of

these, 3at least on map 33. the likliest one that is useful to will be the one

nearest to your Cryans.

NB..... I have just been looking at the Ballaghadereen parish registers

onfilm - many variations of the spelling Crien, Crahen, even Kane, though

thisnot etablished.MANY appear in Ballaghadereen RC Church registers AND the same families

appear in GURTEEN Civil Register. I have to sort them out yet.

Until again, will not be available now for a few weeks , Eve

 

From:        Jill Devito <devito@uta.edu>  |  Subject:        RE: [CRYAN] CRYAN #3

   Date:        Fri, 5 May 2000 09:29:20 -0500      To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Some of the Cryans from Eileen's message named CRYAN #3 are mine.

Cryan, Pearl is my grandmother, born Pearl Mott and married to my

grandfather Paul E. Cryan of Lowell, MA who lived in Fairfield, CT for

50years then recently moved to Ireland.

Cryan, Karen was a daughter of the Paul and Pearl above.  She died as

aninfant.

Cryan, Loretta (McAuley) was my grandfather's second wife after Pearl

died.

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From: leedon [mailto:leedon@maxinter.net]

Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2000 10:36 PM

To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Subject: [CRYAN] CRYAN #3

Search Terms: CRYAN (9)

Database: Connecticut Death Index, 1949-96

Combined Matches: 9

Name Death Date Death Place

CRYAN, KAREN  September 25, 1949 Bridgeport, Fairfield, Connecticut

CRYAN, BELLE C October 17, 1963 Deep River, Middlesex, Connecticut

CRYAN, JOHN J August 30, 1966 Essex, Middlesex, Connecticut

CRYAN, PEARL M March 01, 1977 Fairfield,  , Connecticut

CRYAN, SARA  June 04, 1984 Hartford,  , Connecticut

CRYAN, HOWARD T January 16, 1980 Milford,  , Connecticut

DECERBO, JANET L February 14, 1989 Bridgeport, Fairfield, Connecticut

HERSAM, AGNES  October 05, 1989 New Canaan, Fairfield, Connecticut

CRYAN, LORETTA M December 04, 1991 Hamden, Out-of-State, Florida

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Search Terms: CRYAN (9)

Database: Michigan Death Index, 1971-96

Combined Matches: 9

Surname Given Name Residence Birth Death

Cryan  Patrick J. St Joseph, Berrien, Michigan 05 December 1915 18

January1996

CRYAN  Anna   Kalamazoo, Kalamazoo, Michigan 02 April 1909 26 March

1992

CRYAN  Emma A Plainwell, Allegan, Michigan 20 July 1898 20 July 1991

CRYAN  Louise P St Joseph, Berrien, Michigan 17 March 1918 17 September

1992

CRYAN  Jessie M Tawas City, Iosco, Michigan 12 April 1892 08 January

1989

CRYAN  Louise J St Joseph, Berrien, Michigan 03 December 90 17 May 84

CRYAN  Mary E Grand Rapids, Kent, Michigan 22 06 98 30 January 84

CRYAN  Mary E Galesburg, Kalamazoo, Michigan 06 November 01 13 January 86

CRYAN SCHOMMER  Winifred   Kalamazoo, Kalamazoo, Michigan 29 March 1918

17July 1989

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Search Terms: CRYAN (1)

Database: North Carolina Death Records, 1993-96

Combined Matches: 1

Name: CRYAN, JAMES THOMAS

Date of Birth: November 11, 1922

Death Date: November 25, 1994

Sex: Male

Race: White

Age: 72 Years

Place of Occurance:  , Haywood, North Carolina

Place of Residence:  . Haywood, North Carolina

Autopsy: No

Hospital: General Hospital 100 Beds & Over

Marital Status: Married

Attendant: Physician

Mode of Burial: Burial in state

State of Birth: Massachusetts

Social Security Number: 022168028

Fathers Surname: CRYAN

Place of Injury:

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Search Terms: CRYAN (4)

Database: Ohio Death Index, 1958-69

Combined Matches: 4

Name Death Date Death Place

CRYAN, MICHAEL J February 18, 1960 Cincinnati, Hamilton County

CRYAN, JOHN J May 11, 1961 Toledo, Lucas County

CRYAN, JAMES B April 28, 1964 Perrysburg, Wood County

CRYAN, JOSEPH H October 21, 1965 Toledo, Lucas County

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Search Terms: CRYAN (1)

Database: Rhode Island Death Records

Combined Matches: 1

Name Relation Kin 1 Kin 2 Death Date Age Comment

John Cryan   John Cryan Rosa Cruz 27 Aug 1900 35 yrs

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Search Terms: CRYAN (2)

Database: Rhode Island Marriage Records

Combined Matches: 2

Spouse 1 Spouse 2 Marriage Date Comment

John Cryan Annie Tymon 09 Dec 1875

Annie Tymon John Cryan 09 Dec 1875

 

Eileen     leedon@maxinter.net

 

Date:        Fri, 5 May 2000 09:40:46 -0700 (PDT)   From:        Caoimhghin O Croidheain caoimhghin@yahoo.com>  |  Subject:        RE: [CRYAN] CRYAN #3     To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

HiThe Sara Cryan mentioned is my grandmother who

followed my aunt, Sally Cryan, over to the States

after my aunt married Frank Walsh (who she met at a

wedding in Ireland)

CaoimhghinThanks again to Eileen for the emails!

 

> Eileen> leedon@maxinter.net

>

> Date:        Fri, 5 May 2000 09:53:02 -0700 (PDT)   From:        Caoimhghin O Croidheain caoimhghin@yahoo.com>   Subject:        [CRYAN] cryan emails data     To:        CRYAN-@rootsweb.com

HiCongratulations to everbody on the list! The following

are some statistics which demonstrate the success of

the list as a way of exchanging information.

 

EMCRY1 37,059

EMCRY2 29,058

EMCRY3 20,379

EMCRY4 23,829

EMCRY5 31,756

EMCRY6 28,080

EMCRY7 28,425

EMCRY8 20,422

EMCRY9 23,743

EMCRY10 14,684

 

TOTAL: 257,435 WORDS and 584 PAGES

caoimhghin

 

From    ljstandak@webtv.net (Lyle Staehnke)  |    Fri, 5 May 2000 10:24:18 -0700 (PDT) Subject:        [CRYAN] RE:Cryan list    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Thanks Eileen for all the information and effort you took time to share

with us.. Lyle

 

From:     "Cathy Joynt Labath" <labaths@worldnet.att.net>  |  Subject:        Will do lookups in Index to Irish Marriages   Date:        Mon, 8 May 2000 16:49:23 -0500     To:        ROSCOMMON-L@rootsweb.com

I will be willing to do some lookups on surnames from Index to the

IrishMarriages in Walker's Hibernian Magazine 1771-1812.

Also in Index to Births, Marriages and Deaths in Anthologia Hibernica

1793-1794

Please be patient if I get a lot of requests. I work full time, have a

family, work in the garden and have various other genealogical

pages/lists.But I assure you each request will be honored.

Cathy Joynt Labath

Researching Joynt any place, any time (Mostly Mayo,Galway,Limerick,

Clare inIreland)McNally in Newport, Co Mayo

Brennan in St. John's Parish, Roscommon

 

From:        Fatarm@aol.com  |    Date:        Mon, 8 May 2000 18:28:21 EDT Subject:        [CRYAN] How to unsub, and why people are doing it     To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

We've seen a recent spike in postings to the list, as well as

unsubscriptions.  I want to remind folks how to do it without having to

wait for me to do it, and to offer a reason several people have told me

they've unsubbed.How to unsubscribe

Most subscribers need merely write to:  Cryan-L-request@rootsweb.com

with only the word "unsubscribe" (without quotes) in the message body.  You

will receive confirmation that the process is complete.

If, however, you are a Digest subscriber, meaning you receive your

messages in bulk packets rather than individually (usually with a "cryan-D"

heading), then you should email "Cryan-D-request@rootsweb.com" to unsub, again

with only the word "unsubscribe" (without quotes) in the message body.

Why Subscribers May be Unsubbing at this Time

An obvious reason is the volume of mail that has recently been passing

through our list, but it's not because these folks don't like the

volume.  The fact is, many of them have been silent on the list for a long time

and are pursuing their research interests elsewhere at this time.  The

volume coming through the list has simply acted as a reminder that they are

still subscribed to a list they really haven't been using in some time now.

We've had more than 80 people subscribed at one time, yet this spring,

except for a few contributors, the majority have been largely silent,

including myself.  I've received no complaints about conversations on the list,

nor do I think anyone has been offended by the conversation, so rest assured

that what we are experiencing is just a little "spring cleaning" by our

subscribers.  How is everyone doing in their computer v. non-computer research? 

Mine's stalled at present on the Cryan front.  I'd love to hear some

encouraging news from someone else!  Hope to hear from you all soon, Leslie

 

From:        Fatarm@aol.com  |    Date:        Mon, 8 May 2000 18:49:58 EDT Subject:        [CRYAN] Crain researcher looking for help/advice     To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Hi gang.  I recently received the following, but unfortunately don't

have info to pass on.  Can anyone else shed some light on the 1860 Crain

info?  Thanks for checking, Leslie

   > From: "Kees Pleeging" <cpleegin@nl.packardbell.org>

    > To: <Fatarm@aol.com>

    > Subject: Research on Family Crain

    > Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2000 17:07:08 +0200

  Leslie,

I;found your name in an email in one of the

older archives on genealogy research.

The interesting part in this was the resear ch on families with

relations to the name Crain. I am researching the whereabouts

    > of my wife, but am stuck around 1860. The data i have is as

follows:.Arthur Crain married Josephine ?? place unknown

They have a son called:

Arthur William Crain, born 21 september 1888 in Singapore, died 20

september 1943 Bandoeng[Soekamiskin Arthur William married Poen Keouw Tjian who=

  was born in Batavia, died 30 augustus 1942 Soekamiskin ?

 They had 5 children:

Lucy Rosiana Crain, born 15 december 1907

Henry Barret (Eddy) Crain, born 6 april 1913

Mary Julia (Iet) Crain, born 25 maart 1915

Charles Robert (Tjalie) Crain, born 16 oktober 1917

John Frederick Crain, born 27 september 1921

I know this is very little information to work with, but so far i have

not been able to track data back.  Based on the names and relation between

UK and Singapore those days, i am hoping to find some tracks to work on. May

be you can help me find those.RegardsKees PleegingThe Netherlands

 

From:     "Cathy Joynt Labath" <labaths@worldnet.att.net>   Subject:        More marriages added.

   Date:        Sat, 13 May 2000 11:02:13 -0500     To:        ROSCOMMON-L@rootsweb.com

More marriages have been posted for the following requested surnames at

http://home.att.net/~labaths/irish_marriages.htm

 

CREAN (see below)

CRYAN (no entries)

 

Remember to check both bride and groom in index!

Still lots to go! Clear, no rain, so have to go check the garden,

althoughit's a little chilly here in IA (Love genealogy in the area of

gardeningalso-grow the old fashioned varieties of flower and veggies,

somewhat-makesme feel like I'm a little kid back at grandma's). Wish I was retired!

Cathy Joynt Labath

 

From:        Fatarm@aol.com  | Date:        Mon, 15 May 2000 14:07:02 EDT Subject:        [CRYAN] From Sligo email list: bank account info website    To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

I think we've seen this one before, but in case not, or for the newer

subscribers, here's a website to check-out:

- -  - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

Subj:    Bank Account info for Irish Emigrants coming to New York

Date:   5/13/00 3:51:28 AM Eastern Daylight Time

From:   SCK32160@aol.com

To: IRL-SLIGO-L@rootsweb.com

Hi Everyone,I found this site the other day.  It contains bank records for Irish

Immigrants who opened bank accounts in New York.  I thought it

worthwhile to pass it on to you all since I found a relation of mine on the list. 

What's nice about it is it can go back as early as 1800?  I hope it helps

someone?

Go to: www.genhomepage.com/

Heading reads "Online Genealogy Information

Select "What's New"

Go to "Feb 26 2000"

Select  "Irish Family History Forum"

Select "links"

Select "Emigrant Savings Bank Records"

Insert "Sligo for place of birth"

 

There are only 85 sligo bank accounts listed but it might be invaluable

to someone?                                                               

          Best of Luck          Chris Kennedy

 

From:        Fatarm@aol.com  |    Date:        Mon, 15 May 2000 14:10:39 EDT Subject        [CRYAN] Crean marriage entry     To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

On the Roscommon list, a researcher is kindly posting marriage info. 

THe following was posted to the website,

http://home.att.net/~labaths/irish_marriages.htm,

 <A HREF="http://home.att.net/~labaths/irish_marriages.htm">Irish

Marriages</A>

 

CREAN

Crean, Judith=Crofton, John Edw. 1780 p. 232.

-leslie

 

Date:        Wed, 17 May 2000 11:58:55 -0700 (PDT)   From:        Caoimhghin O Croidheain caoimhghin@yahoo.com>  |  Subject:        [CRYAN] Bank Account info for Irish Emigrants

     To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

HiI checked the following for cryan, crean and crehan

but no results

caoimhghin

Subj:    Bank Account info for Irish Emigrants coming

to New York

 

From:        Fatarm@aol.com  |    Date:        Wed, 17 May 2000 17:44:04 EDTSubject:        Re: [CRYAN] Bank Account info for Irish Emigrants    To:        caoimhghin@yahoo.com

Another bust for my postings!  I'm determined to do something useful,

however, so let me try again!!!!  -Leslie

 

From:

        ljstandak@webtv.net (Lyle Staehnke)  |    Date:        Tue, 16 May 2000 16:20:17 -0700 (PDT)

 Subject:        [CRYAN] RE: Danial Cryan     To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

New web page,with alot of information I posted before. This might be

easier to read...   http://community-2.webtv.net/ljstandak/DANIALCRYAN/

 

 

Date:        Sat, 20 May 2000 04:16:03 -0700 (PDT)   From:        Caoimhghin O Croidheain <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>  | Subject:        [CRYAN] geocities sites with cryan

     To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

HiSearched:geocities sites with cryan (299 records)

Maybe these will help someone.....caoimhghin

 

http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Senate/9771/54e_032_kenneth_michael_cryan.html

 

Let us not forget

                                            Kenneth

Michael Cryan

 

               Let us not forget Specialist Five

Kenneth Michael Cryan, casuality of the Vietnam

               War. As a member of the Army, SP5 Cryan

served our country until May 4th, 1968

               in South Vietnam. He was 22 years old

and was not married. Kenneth died from

               multiple fragmentation wounds. His body

was recovered. Kenneth was born on

               July 25th, 1945 in San Mateo,

California.

 

               SP5 Cryan is on panel 54E, line 032 of

the Veterans Memorial Wall in Washington

               D.C. He served our country for 2 years.

 

 

 

http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Ranch/2926/family_cryan.html

 

Mathew Cryan from Tonaponra, Keash, Co. Sligo. He had

at least one child - John (b. c1846). John married

Mary Anne

 O'Neil and they had 8 children :-

 

      John (b.1875), m. Mary Ann Hannon

      Mary Anne (b.1877), m. Martin Brennan

      Matthew (b.1879), emigrated to the USA

      Michael (b.1881), m. Margaret Henry

      Martin (b.1883)

      Harry (b.1887), m. Winifred Farry

      Delia (b.1887), m. Dan Marquess

      Nora (b.1896), m. Jack Brennan

 

http://www.ejcryan.com

http://www.ejcryan.com/contact2.html

 

E. J. Cryan is my very favorite New                                        Age artist.

He does all his music by                                        himself!

People who can do that                                        impress me a

lot!!!!  If you like Enigma                                        or something

like that, you will like E.                                        J. Cryan.

E. J. Cryan recently put out a CD.  It is simply                named after himself.   You can buy it

from his                website, but I hope to see it in thestores

                soon.   Even people who have nocomputer                deserve to hear this great music!  It

is very    inspirational!

 

http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Lane/8397/FamTree/stedman/pafg06.htm

47. Jill Stedman ( , James Stedman , Charles Richard

Slaughter , David , David )

Jill married Michael Cryan.

They had the following children:

65           M              i                Nicholas Cryan               66           M              ii                Jake Cryan

http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Plains/4889/g0001112.html

Rose CRYAN

     REFERENCE: 2553

Family 1 : Reginald NUTBROWN

   1. Raymond NUTBROWN

 

http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Meadows/3642/1922.class.roster.html

Ilion High School

                                     CLASS 1922

                                          Directory

Year Grad. Last Name     Last Name      First Name    Ini Sal. Street Number and Address        City       

           ST Country Deceased  1922 Cryan  Getman         Helen      Mrs. 198 East Main st.      

http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Fields/4791/may1882.html

The Willimantic Chronicle - Year of 1882

Published every Wednesday.McDonald & Safford, Editors and Publishers.Office, Hall's Block, Main & Union Sts.$1.50 per year.M. Wallen, A.H. Freeman, O.G. Hanks. Prompter: O.M.

Richardson.642. TWC Wed May 3 1882: Died.Cryan—In Willimantic, April 28th, Patrick Cryan, aged

80 years.

 

From:        "Michael Tobin" <tobinmi@hotmail.com>  | Date:    Sat, 20 May 2000 14:58:15 PDT

 Subject:        [CRYAN] New York records     To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

The following link seems to have a lot of information about New York.

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~blkyn/Bklyn.Info.Page.html

I did a quick search of the marriage index which it provides and it

threw up the following, which maybe of use to someone on the list :-

Cryan, James A. Spouse : Cole, Harriet A.

        Marriage date : 1872

        Location : Manhattan

        * Certificate Number : 7084

regardsMichael

 

Date:         Sat, 20 May 2000 21:42:14 PDT    From:         Karen McElrath <K.McElrath@Queens-Belfast.AC.UK>  | Reply-to:         K.McElrath@Queens-Belfast.AC.UK  Subject:         Re: [CRYAN] geocities sites with cryan     To:         Caoimhghin O Croidheain <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>

HiSearched:geocities sites with cryan (299 records)

Maybe these will help someone.....caoimhghin

http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Fields/4791/may1882.html

The Willimantic Chronicle - Year of 1882

Published every Wednesday.

McDonald & Safford, Editors and Publishers.Office, Hall's Block, Main & Union Sts.

$1.50 per year.M. Wallen, A.H. Freeman, O.G. Hanks. Prompter: O.M.

Richardson. 642. TWC Wed May 3 1882: Died.

Cryan —n Willimantic, April 28th, Patrick Cryan, aged80 years.

For those who might be interested in this Patrick: 

Willimantic is in Windham County (in the Town of Windham) Connecticut

From Windham's web page I found a link to the local cemeteries and

noted the following (note also that spelling differs):

 In St. Joseph's cemetery, Windham

Cryne, Bridget Hart, wife of Patrick, born 1818, died 1896

Cryne, Catherine, wife of James, born 1828, died 1916

Cryne, James, died Sept. 8, 1849, age 30 years

Cryne, Martin, son of James & Catherine, born Mar. 23, 1847, died Feb. 18, 1874, G.A.R. marker

Cryne, Mary, died Mar. 16, 1883, age 74 years

Cryne, Patrick, died April 28, 1882, age 75 years

Cryne, Sarah, died 1880, age 22 years

Cryne, Wineford, died--, age 27 years

If anyone would like to order a copy of the death certificate for any

of the above, contact inforamtion is as follows:

               Windham Town Clerk's office: 1692 - present records:

               Vital Records: Birth, Marriage, Death; Land Records; and

Information of    elections, minutes of all public meetings and servicemen

discharges.                   Cost:   $5.00 with SASE for a certified copy of birth,

marriage or death         record.

                     Anne Bushey, Town Clerk                    Town Clerk's Office

                    979 Main Street                    Willimantic, CT 06226

                    Telephone: 860-465-3013                    HOURS: Mon/Tues/Wed: 8:00 a.m.-5:00 p.m. Thurs: 8:00 a.m.-7:30 p.m.                                     Fri: 8:00 a.m.-12:00 p.m.karen

 

From:        Fatarm@aol.com  | Date:    Sun, 21 May 2000 01:15:24 EDT Subject:        [CRYAN] Kenneth Michael Cryan of Vietnam War era     To:        CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

I'm sorry I've never mentioned this before, but I've seen this name on

the wall, and if anyone would like a rubbing or the like, let me know, it's

easy to do.  -leslie

 

Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 03:50:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Caoimhghin O Croidheain <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> | Subject: Phew!(Re:[CRYAN] geocities sites with cryan)

To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

HiI am delighted and amazed how other people were/are

able to shed light on what seemed to be pretty obscure

stuff to me!!!Thanks Leslie and Karen.

caoimhghin

From: "Cathy Joynt Labath" <labaths@worldnet.att.net> Subject: Walker's Hibernian Magazine-Lookups and Answers! Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 10:18:43 -0500 To:

ROSCOMMON-L@rootsweb.com

A few entries today, but mostly trying to weed thru the tons of e-mail

Ihave and trying to eliminate some so this task doesn't seem so

daunting. Somost of list is (no entries). I still have over 200 messages in my

mailboxand was up to 400 + a few days ago.

And to answer a few questions about the source that all of you keep

asking:1. Walker's Hibernian Magazine was first issued in 1771 and

discontinued inJuly, 1812. "Till the year 1800 English and Irish Marriages are

chronicledunder different headings, the latter only have been indexed. After that

yearthe marriages are given under one heading, and these are included in

thepresent work". This index was done by Henry Farrar and index was

publishedin 1890. I don't believe the original Walker's Magazine still exists.

Usethis reference as you would Griffith's -to establish presence and a

place tostart research in other records.

2. Source doesn't menton religion of marriages, but they, for the most

partare not RC. I have seen a couple of refs. specifically mention Quaker.

3. Abbreviations like y.d. or e.s. stand for youngest daughter or

eldestson,etc.

4. Shame on you if you are researching for Irish roots and don't know

thedefinition of the word Hibernian! That's what dictionaries are for! A

lot ofmy ancestors emigrated to U.S. and the newspapers gave reference to

thembelonging to A.O.H. (Ancient order of Hibernians). Maybe yours belonged

too!

5. Please READ what I have posted. If I mention I have posted a certain

surname then I have posted ALL marriages in the index for that surname

andyou are not going to get anything more out of me! If you don't have

time toread the postings I make about the surnames, then you don't have time

to bedoing any type of research of Irish records and you are not going to be

verysuccessful in your genealogy endeavors.

More marriages have been posted for the following requested surnames at

http://home.att.net/~labaths/irish_marriages.htm (note there is an

underscore character in irish_marriages.htm)

BEING AN INDEX TO THE MARRIAGES IN

WALKER'S HIBERNIAN MAGAZINE

1771 to 1812

Cathy Joynt Labath

Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 05:04:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Caoimhghin O Croidheain <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> |  Subject: [CRYAN] http://www.findagrave.com/

To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

http://www.findagrave.com/

Advertisement Grave Search Results

Records 1 to 12 (of 12 total matches)Name Born / Died

Cemetery

Cryan, Alma b. 25 Oct 1916

d. 27 Sep 1974 Long Island National Cemetery

New York (USA)

Cryan, Clara F b. 8 Aug 1890

d. 2 Mar 1959 Long Island National Cemetery

New York (USA)

Cryan, Eileen M b. 26 Sep 1894

d. 12 Feb 1973 Fort Rosecrans National Cemetery

California (USA)

Cryan, Eileen M b. 26 Sep 1894

d. 12 Feb 1973 Fort Rosecrans National Cemetery

California (USA)

Cryan, Eugene James b. 15 Oct 1915

d. 18 Nov 1980 Long Island National Cemetery

New York (USA)

Cryan, Kenneth M b. 25 Jul 1945

d. 4 May 1968 Golden Gate National Cemetery

California (USA)

Cryan, Margaret b. 6 Sep 1894

d. 13 Jan 1965 Long Island National Cemetery

New York (USA)

Cryan, Patricia Ann b. 6 Oct 1948

d. 22 Jul 1997 Fort Bliss National Cemetery

Texas (USA)

Cryan, Patrick Henry b. 15 May 1906

d. 6 Mar 1959 Long Island National Cemetery

New York (USA)

Cryan, Paul Lawerence b. 31 Oct 1904

d. 16 Jun 1981 Riverside National Cemetery

Riverside, California (USA)

Cryan, Robert John b. 25 Nov 1921

d. 11 Mar 1970 Long Island National Cemetery

New York (USA)

Cryan, William E b. 15 Feb 1892

d. 25 May 1961 Long Island National Cemetery

New York (USA)

Advertisement Grave Search Results

Records 1 to 20 (of 33 total matches)

Records 21 - 33 Name Born / Died Cemetery

Crean, Albert J b. unknown

d. 18 Oct 1942 Chattanooga National Cemetery

Chattanooga, Tennessee (USA)

Crean, Amrtin Aloysius b. 26 Oct 1906

d. 12 Feb 1965 Long Island National Cemetery

New York (USA)

Crean, Brian b. 15 Jun 1975

d. 15 Jun 1975 Long Island National Cemetery

New York (USA)

Crean, Brian b. 15 Jun 1975

d. 15 Jun 1975 Long Island National Cemetery

New York (USA)

Crean, Daniel b. 7 Jan 1888

d. 26 Aug 1954 Long Island National Cemetery

New York (USA)

Crean, Daniel Joseph b. 3 Mar 1923

d. 19 Feb 1978 Long Island National Cemetery

New York (USA)

Crean, Edward Henry b. 6 Apr 1897

d. 27 Jul 1959 Long Island National Cemetery

New York (USA)

Crean, Edward J b. 3 Apr 1936

d. 14 Jun 1983 Calverton National Cemetery

Calverton, New York (USA)

Crean, Edward J b. 1 Jan 1900

d. 22 Jul 1941 Fort Snelling National Cemetery

Minnesota (USA)

Crean, Edward Joseph b. 3 Mar 1933

d. 14 Jun 1983 Calverton National Cemetery

Calverton, New York (USA)

Crean, Edward Michael b. 1 Jan 1900

d. 13 Nov 1968 Willamette National Cemetery

Oregon (USA)

Crean, Ethel R b. 22 May 1914

d. 11 Oct 1994 Long Island National Cemetery

New York (USA)

Crean, Howard Richard b. 6 May 1936

d. 17 Sep 1956 Beverly National Cemetery

New Jersey (USA)

Crean, James D b. 16 Oct 1924

d. 13 Nov 1994 Calverton National Cemetery

Calverton, New York (USA)

Crean, James T b. 13 Jun 1914

d. 10 Jun 1968 Culpeper National Cemetery

Culpeper, Virginia (USA)

Crean, James William b. 5 Apr 1894

d. 6 Jun 1962 Fort Sam Houston National Cemetery

San Antonio, Texas (USA)

Crean, John b. 1 Jan 1900

d. 4 Jan 1907 Dayton National Cemetery

Dayton, Ohio (USA)

Crean, John Stephen b. 16 Dec 1903

d. 28 Feb 1962 Long Island National Cemetery

New York (USA)

Crean, Joseph C b. 26 Dec 1910

d. 9 Sep 1964 Golden Gate National Cemetery

California (USA)

Crean, Martin b. 11 Nov 1910

d. 6 Nov 1957 Long Island National Cemetery

New York (USA)

Advertisement Grave Search Results

Records 21 to 33 (of 33 total matches)

Records 1 - 20 Name Born / Died Cemetery

Crean, Mary b. 7 Nov 1883

d. 23 Jul 1959 Long Island National Cemetery

New York (USA)

Crean, Mary A b. 26 Jul 1880

d. 7 May 1966 Long Island National Cemetery

New York (USA)

Crean, Melinda S b. 13 May 1911

d. 10 Nov 1996 Fort Sam Houston National Cemetery

San Antonio, Texas (USA)

Crean, Richard Thomas b. unknown

d. 30 Oct 1943 Los Angeles National Cemetery

California (USA)

Crean, Sean M b. 31 Mar 1966

d. 10 Mar 1997 Calverton National Cemetery

Calverton, New York (USA)

Crean, Stephen b. 7 Jul 1980

d. 13 Jun 1980 Long Island National Cemetery

New York (USA)

Crean, Thomas M b. 11 Jun 1921

d. 10 Jun 1989 Calverton National Cemetery

Calverton, New York (USA)

Crean, William E, Sr b. 10 Apr 1919

d. 9 Jun 1997 Beverly National Cemetery

New Jersey (USA)

Crean, William H b. 7 Aug 1926

d. 14 May 1945 Golden Gate National Cemetery

California (USA)

Creaney, Edward J b. 16 Sep 1913

d. 15 Jan 1943 Long Island National Cemetery

New York (USA)

Creange, Arthur b. 28 May 1898

d. 1 Nov 1970 Wood National Cemetery

Milwaukee, Wisconsin (USA)

Creange, Milton A b. 16 Jan 1929

d. 1 Apr 1996 Riverside National Cemetery

Riverside, California (USA)

Creange, Pansy M b. 15 Oct 1937

d. 13 Jul 1996 Riverside National Cemetery

Riverside, California (USA)

Records

Advertisement Grave Search Results

Records 1 to 13 (of 13 total matches)Name Born / Died

Cemetery

Crehan, Austin Joseph b. 30 Jun 1903

d. 1 Jun 1954 Baton Rouge National Cemetery

Baton Rouge, Louisiana (USA)

Crehan, Charles J b. 5 Jan 1891

d. 22 Jul 1959 Baltimore National Cemetery

Maryland (USA)

Crehan, George A b. 1 Jan 1900

d. 29 Jul 1939 Baltimore National Cemetery

Maryland (USA)

Crehan, George William b. 4 Apr 1921

d. 5 Apr 1964 Baltimore National Cemetery

Maryland (USA)

Crehan, Helen M b. 5 Feb 1924

d. 12 Apr 1987 Long Island National Cemetery

New York (USA)

Crehan, James H b. 1 Jan 1900

d. 23 Apr 1945 Baltimore National Cemetery

Maryland (USA)

Crehan, John Leon b. 20 May 1897

d. 26 May 1968 Long Island National Cemetery

New York (USA)

Crehan, Mary F b. 4 Mar 1912

d. 2 Jul 1999 Massachusetts National Cemetery

Bourne, Massachusetts (USA)

Crehan, Matthew A b. 4 Feb 1910

d. 30 Oct 1965 Beverly National Cemetery

New Jersey (USA)

Crehan, Matthew J b. 10 Mar 1909

d. 31 May 1997 Massachusetts National Cemetery

Bourne, Massachusetts (USA)

Crehan, Matthew L b. 7 Jun 1922

d. 24 Jun 1975 Long Island National Cemetery

New York (USA)

Crehan, Robert L b. 3 Jul 1935

d. 23 Jun 1995 Massachusetts National Cemetery

Bourne, Massachusetts (USA)

Crehan, William J b. 23 Jun 1916

d. 20 Dec 1990 Bay Pines National Cemetery

Bay Pines, Florida (USA)

From: Fatarm@aol.com | Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 17:10:47 EDT

Subject: [CRYAN] Crane/Crehan and a Cryan murder To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Some of you Crehan researchers may remember some time ago I posted

Tom's Crane / Crehan research. As I correspond with him, and hopefully

convince him to join our mailing list (it's free Tom and you'll meet some neat

people researching the same surnames as you are!), I thought you'd all enjoy

this story of murder (it's a little more exciting than my usual postings,

afterall).* * * * * * * * * * * * *

Hello Leslie, Nice to hear from you. By all means, post my info. I

have also placed numerous postings on the Irish web. I also have a tie in

with the Lacy family of Nenagh, Silvermines, Tipperary, in case you are

interested. Joseph Lacy married a Bridget Crehan at that location in

1854. It is believed that Bridget was my great-grandfather's sister. That

is, the sister of Patrick Crehan (b.1844). Parents and location: Unknown.

I have also been in contact with Barbara Richmond, Booper 66, who has

been sending me mucho info on the Cryans. As yet, no connection. By the

way, in case you are interested, the daughter of Lana Turner was Cheryl Crane

whose real spelling of the name was O'Cryan. Cheryl killed her mother's

boyfriend, Johnny Stompanato, because he was always beating her mother. She

stabbed him with a knife when she was 16 years old. That is, in 1958. Just a bit

of trivia regarding the Cryans for you to ponder over. Best wishes, Tom

(Crehan) Crane

From: Fatarm@aol.com Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 17:15:05 EDT Subject: Re: [CRYAN] http://www.findagrave.com/ To: caoimhghin@yahoo.com

Great work, and thanks! Leslie

P.S. Easy to see where our Vietnam vet is buried ...

From: "Richard Callanan" <RichardCallanan@compuserve.com> | 

Subject: RE: tithe allotment Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 11:44:31 +0100

To: ROSCOMMON-L@rootsweb.com

Hi all,The Tithe Applotment Books can also be found at the LDS (and, I

presume,individual films can be ordered from any LDS Family Center). It is on

140rolls of microfilm! For details see the Family Search Source Guide for

Ireland at: http://www.familysearch.com/sg/

Richard CallananLondon, England.

[researching McGuinness, Gearty and Cox in Roscommon]

Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 13:31:15 -0700 From: "Carol J. Markillie" <markilli@inreach.com> Subject: RE: tithe allotment To: ROSCOMMON-L@rootsweb.com

Hello Kim and Others:

I don't know if this would be something of interest to you re: Tithes,

butI just picked the info up off the Society of Genealogists (London)

newsletter:

Tithe Surveys for Historians

By Roger Kain & Hugh Prince; Phillimore 2000; 146 pages

This illustrated hardback explains the nature of tithes and the

conflictbetween tithe owners and payers over rights. It examines the different

documents that make up the tithe surveys, explains how evidence can be

abstracted and analysed to identify the likes of field systems and

describeselements of rural society.14.99 GBP plus 2.30 GBP for UK 1st class shipping.

sales@sog.org.uk

Reply-to: "FamSpack" < > From: "FamSpack" < > To: "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>

Subject: Re: [CRYAN] 1901 census -Leitrim and Roscommon list ETC.

Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 10:29:08 +0100

Hi, I have just come back from 3 weeks away to find your note, thank

you.As I have said before, I did not find a Charles Cryan in 1998 there

beingonly 3 or 4 CRYANs at the most in each year back to 1994.Also there

were, asI remember, no people with a second name Charles, so I can not

understandwhy he has not been found if you say between April 1998 and Sept 1998.

I will certainly check the notes that I made at the time and in case

Croydoncomes up but do not expect too much.

I wonder whether he died in Ireland, and if so he may appear in the

Index tothe General Irish Registers for that year.(I do not have access to

these in1998, only the old ones)The Irish Independent may shed more light , good luck with that.

Until again ,Eve

From: JudyBruce@aol.com | Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 09:26:46 EDT

Subject: [CRYAN] Lowell Directories To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Thought some on the list with Lowell roots would like to know about

this.LOWELL, MASSACHUSETTS DIRECTORIES, 1889-90

Home to about 50,000 people in 1890, Lowell, Massachusetts is situated

neartheNew Hampshire border in Middlesex County. This database is a collection

oftwodirectories for the city originally published in 1889 and 1890. It is a

listingof city residents in those years. In addition to providing the

residents'names,it provides their addresses and occupational information. It includes

thenamesof over 64,800 people, mostly heads of households. For the researcher

ofancestors from northeastern Massachusetts, this can be an extremely

valuablecollection.Source Information: "Lowell City Directory, 1889." Boston: Sampson,

MurdockandCo., 1889. "Lowell City Directory, 1890." Boston: Sampson, Murdock and

Co.,1890.To search this database, go to:

http://www.ancestry.com/search/rectype/inddbs/4644.htm

Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 01:59:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Caoimhghin O Croidheain <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> | Subject: [CRYAN] lowell To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

http://www.ancestry.com/search/rectype/inddbs/4644.htm

no creans or crehans

Search Results

Search Terms: CRINE (1)

Database: Lowell, Massachusetts Directories, 1889-90

Combined Matches: 1

Name Business Name Occupation Location 1 Location 2

City State Year

Thomas Crine fireman house 27 Bolt Lowell MA 1890

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Database: Lowell, Massachusetts Directories, 1889-90

Combined Matches: 35

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Name Business Name Occupation Location 1 Location 2

City State Year

Miss Annie Cryan Boott Cotton Mills boards 3, rear

153 Worthen Lowell MA 1889

Michael J.; Martin Cryan Bros. groceries and

provisions 189 Market Lowell MA 1889

Edward J. Cryan wool-comb maker boards 22 Chapel

Lowell MA 1889

Miss Etta Cryan Lawrence Mfg. Co. boards 3, rear

153 Worthen Lowell MA 1889

Miss Hannah Cryan Merrimack Mfg. Co. boards 3,

rear 153 Worthen Lowell MA 1889

James Cryan Merrimack Mfg. Co. house 34 Lilley

avenue Lowell MA 1889

James Cryan, Jr. Navy Yard boards 11 Lilley avenue

Lowell MA 1889

John Cryan laborer boards 3, rear 153 Worthen

Lowell MA 1889

Martin Cryan Cryan Bros. 189 Market boards 82 1/2

Merrimack Mfg. Co. corporation, Prince Lowell MA 1889

Miss Mary Cryan Lawrence Mfg. Co. boards 3, rear

153 Worthen Lowell MA 1889

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Combined Matches: 35

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Name Business Name Occupation Location 1 Location 2

City State Year

Mary Cryan widow house 22 Chapel Lowell MA 1889

Miss Mary A. Cryan Brown Bros. saleswoman bds. 22

Chapel Lowell MA 1889

Michael Cryan laborer house 1 Carolin's court

Lowell MA 1889

M. J. Cryan Cryan Bros. 189 Market house same

location Lowell MA 1889

Thomas Cryan Merrimack Mfg. Co. fireman 82 1/2 same

location corporation, Prince Lowell MA 1889

Thomas Cryan painter house 20 Chapel Lowell MA

1889

Timothy Cryan fireman house 3, rear 153 Worthen

Lowell MA 1889

Miss Annie Cryan Boott Cotton Mills boards 3, rear

153 Worthen Lowell MA 1890

Michael J.; Martin Cryan Bros. groceries and

provisions 189 Market Lowell MA 1890

Edward J. Cryan confectionery, etc. 56 Dutton bds.

22 Chapel Lowell MA 1890

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Database: Lowell, Massachusetts Directories, 1889-90

Combined Matches: 35

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Name Business Name Occupation Location 1 Location 2

City State Year

Miss Etta Cryan Lawrence Mfg. Co. boards 3, rear

153 Worthen Lowell MA 1890

Miss Hannah Cryan Merrimack Mfg. Co. boards 3,

rear 153 Worthen Lowell MA 1890

James Cryan Lowell MA 1890

James Cryan, Jr. Navy Yard boards 34 Lilley avenue

Lowell MA 1890

John Cryan laborer boards 117 Worthen Lowell MA

1890

Martin Cryan Cryan Bros. 189 Market b. Fourth avenue

near Mt. Hope Lowell MA 1890

Mary Cryan widow house 22 Chapel Lowell MA 1890

Miss Mary Cryan Lawrence Mfg. Co. boards 3, rear

153 Worthen Lowell MA 1890

Miss Mary A. Cryan boards 22 Chapel Lowell MA

1890

Michael Cryan laborer house 1 Carolin's court

Lowell MA 1890

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Combined Matches: 35

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Name Business Name Occupation Location 1 Location 2

City State Year

Michael J. Cryan Cryan Bros. 189 Market Fourth

avenue n. Mt. Hope Lowell MA 1890

Sarah Cryan widow house 34 Lilley avenue Lowell MA

1890

Thomas Cryan Merrimack Mfg. Co. manufacturing Co.

fireman Lowell MA 1890

Thomas Cryan painter house 20 Chapel Lowell MA

1890

Timothy Cryan fireman house 3, rear 153 Worthen

Lowell MA 1890

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Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 13:03:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Caoimhghin O Croidheain <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> Subject: [CRYAN] searches

To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Search Results Search Terms: CRYAN (24) Database: Canada Telephone & Address

Listings Combined Matches: 24 Next Hits

 

Given

Names

Surname

Phone

Street

City

Province

Postal

Code

C

CRYAN

(204)

253-4853

10 DARWIN ST

WINNIPEG

MB

R2M

3X7

R

CRYAN

(416)

422-5380

55 COSBURN AVE

TORONTO

ON

M4K

2E9

M

CRYAN

(416)

485-0429

500 DUPLEX AVE

TORONTO

ON

M4R

1V6

TOM

CRYAN

(416)

494-3401

25 MALLABY RD

TORONTO

ON

M2H

1P3

ROBERT

CRYAN

(418)

243-2733

31 3E RANG

ST RAPHAEL

DE BELLEC

QC

G0R

4C0

E

CRYAN

(514)

384-1720

8708 AV ANDRE

GRASSET

MONTREAL

QC

H2M

2L4

J D

CRYAN

(519)

344-3888

723 SOUTHERN

AVE

SARNIA

ON

N7T

7E2

M J

CRYAN

(519)

633-0862

420 WELLINGTON

ST

ST THOMAS

ON

N5R

5P2

JOSEPH

CRYAN

(519)

658-2775

88 PLACE

BREWSTER

HESPELER

ON

N3C

3T9

R

CRYAN

(604)

522-1473

212 7530

ROSEWOOD ST

BURNABY

BC

V5E

4H1

 

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Listings

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Given

Names

Surname

Phone

Street

City

Province

Postal

Code

JOHN

CRYAN

(604)

938-3488

8242 MOUNTAIN

VIEW

WHISTLER

BC

V0N

1B0

A H

CRYAN

(613)

476-6334

9 GLADSTONE

AVE

PICTON

ON

K0K

2T0

C

CRYAN

(613)

792-1506

262 ARMSTRONG

ST

OTTAWA

ON

K1Y

2W6

S

CRYAN

(613)

933-0121

3210 ROSS AVE

CORNWALL

ON

K6K

1E9

P & D

CRYAN

(705)

727-0066

13 RUNDLE CRES

BARRIE

ON

L4N

8E7

DAVID

CRYAN

(705)

727-1434

8 RUNDLE CRES

BARRIE

ON

L4N

8E9

ROBT

CRYAN

(705)

764-1958

FAIRHOLM

ISLAND MILF

MILFORD BAY

ON

P0B 1E0

S J

CRYAN

(902)

542-2250

PORT

WILLIAMS

NS

B0P 1T0

JOHN

CRYAN

(905)

428-0231

5 HILLMAN DR

AJAX

ON

L1S

6Y1

TOM SR

CRYAN

(905)

722-6162

81 ALEXANDER

BL

SUTTON WEST

ON

L0E 1R0

 

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Given Names

Surname

Phone

Street

City

Province

Postal

Code

T

CRYAN

(905)

722-8769

745

SEDORE

WILLOW BEACH

ON

L0E 1S0

G

CRYAN

(905)

839-4777

1872 NEW

ST

PICKERING

ON

L1V

3M1

BERNARD W

CRYAN

(905)

871-1636

240 MAPLE

LN

FORT ERIE

ON

L2A 4P2

M

CRYAN

(905)

953-9063

94 ESTMN

NEWMARKET

ON

L3Y 5S2

 

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ROOTS-L Index: 12 Jan 1997

From: Rosemary Shipsey

&ltrosemary.s4@ukonline.co.uk> 24064: CRYAN Lines: 23,

From: ljstandak@webtv.net (Lyle Staehnke)

24065: Musquodoboit Pioneers Lines: URL:

www.rootsweb.com/roots-l/index/1997/january/w97jan12.html

Surname/Family Lists Ci- Cl

at any time. CLUTTERBUCK-D -- digest

mode Cabanis - Church Coates - Cryan Back to the

RootsWeb home page. © Mount Pinos Webspinners --

Sunday, 07- URL:www.rootsweb.com/~maillist/surnames/c/surnames-ci-cl.html

Surname/Family Lists Cs- Cz

place and at any time. CUTRIGHT-D --

digest mode Coates - Cryan C Table of Contents Back to

the RootsWeb home page. © Mount

URL:www.rootsweb.com/~maillist/surnames/c/surnames-cs-cz.html

Cascade County Montana

1913-NHLD CRUTCHFIELD, MAUD; 1943-NHLD

CRY, BABY JOHNNY; 1920 -CAL CRYAN

MATTHEW; 1901 -OHLD CSICSMAN, REV

ANTHONY; 1943 -OLIVET CUBAN, LEWIS; 1910 -

URL:www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/mt/cascade/co.html

Surname/Family Lists C

surname lists starting with Ci or Cj.

Clack - Clutterbuck Coates - Cryan Culbert - Cutright

Back to the

RootsWeb home page. © Mount Pinos

Webspinners --

URL:

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City= Government and= Services= in Lowell,

Massachusetts

Commissioner: Joseph Guthrie Council on

Aging: Director Arthur Ramalho, Arthur Cryan, James

Boenis,

Lena Anger, Francis King, Harold Lee,

Anthony Cahill, Mark Goldham,

URL: www.uml.edu/Lowell/lowlsrvc.html

Browse The Pelham Public Library's Guest Book

were supposingly among the early

residents. Name: Jim Cryan Email: ultican@netscape.net

Hometown:

Pelham, NH Date: Thursday December 10,

1998 Comments: Moving

URL:

www.pelham-nh.com/library/forms/pplguest.html

BooksAvailableThroughISHS

and Promise: The Harlem Renaissance

edited by Kathryn Cryan-Hicks. Paper. $6.32 (M/$4.75)

Talkin'

Union: The American Labor Movement

edited

URL:

www.prairienet.org/ishs/frames/books.htm

Archdiocese of Atlanta-- Georgia Bulletin:

February 18, 1999

is survived by four daughters, Ann

Bartow of Atlanta; Sylvia Cryan of Lithonia; Sally

Paige of Brunswick

and Valerie Renaud of Rutledge; one

URL: www.archatl.com/990218n.htm

Springfield sues Union

main movers behind this project are the

Union Democrats.Terrezza,Cryan,Plaia, Marano and

Scanlon.They succeeded in something that

was tried and

URL:

www.localsource.com/chat/thread.cfm?threadid=2044&messages=45&paper=localsource&age=365

 

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John Paragano, Municipal Judge in Union

hook all these times is political

connections. The only reason Cryan replaced a highly

respected jurist,

Howard Spialter, with Paragano, was to

get

URL:

www.localsource.com/chat/thread.cfm?threadid=2183&messages=21&paper=localsource&age=365

Union Rams Football

Date: 17-Mar-99 Due to the fact that Joe

Cryan sits in at some meetings at town hall mabe we

should start

URL:

www.localsource.com/chat/thread.cfm?threadid=2338&messages=13&paper=localsource&age=365

St. Patrick's Day Parade

wake up and smell the coffee will

ya--its a cryan transplant--gees Subject: RE: St.

Patrick's Day Parade

From: Fighting Irish Date:

URL:

www.localsource.com/chat/thread.cfm?threadid=2293&messages=84&paper=localsource&age=365

Union County freeholders

Date: 26-Apr-99 Union County Freeloaders

- Freeholders Just another CRYAN shame!! Subject: RE:

Union County freeholders From: Date:

26-Apr-99 County

URL:

www.localsource.com/chat/thread.cfm?threadid=2483&messages=11&paper=localsource&age=365

In honor of P.J. Vesey

was a member of the Garden State Ceili

Club, the Cryan Association, the Giblin Association

and the

Irish-American Society of Union. Mr.

URL:

www.localsource.com/chat/thread.cfm?threadid=2523&messages=7&paper=localsource&age=365

People Jerome Petti Has Screwed!

cold. Try and convince me that a deal

wasn't done with Cryan to ease these two off of

Township

Committee. Shame on you

URL:

www.localsource.com/chat/thread.cfm?threadid=837&messages=343&paper=localsource&age=365

Judges

important decisions for the two of them

to make because cryan doesnt play golf with them.

Subject: RE:

Judges From: RE: Golf Date:

URL:

www.localsource.com/chat/thread.cfm?threadid=2513&messages=24&paper=localsource&age=365

UNIONITES-----STOP ALL THE COMPLAINING!!!!!!

we get more for our tax dollar. I heard

that Boss Cryan wants to dump Terrezza for his Irish

buddy,

Scanlon, whose not

URL:

www.localsource.com/chat/thread.cfm?threadid=2559&messages=20&paper=localsource&age=365

The Never Ending Story

One Who Knows Date: 04-Aug-98 He sought

Joe Cryan. He gave him a gift certificate to Buy-Rite

Liquor,

and from

URL:

www.localsource.com/chat/thread.cfm?threadid=1615&messages=437&paper=localsource&age=365

Other Australasian Genealogy Pages

Queensland (Moreton) Regiment Maintained

by "The Adjutant" , Anthony Cryan, and contains a

wealth of

reference material for Queensland living

military history

URL:

home.vicnet.net.au/~AGWeb/agwxtern.htm

 

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4

1929 in Whitefield, N.H. to Dr. Everett

Cryan of Vacaville, Calif. and the late Irma

Farrington Cryan.

In addition to her father,

URL:

www.cumberlink.com/obits/1999/march99/0304.html

San Francisco County, California Queries

many refugees). Thank you.

Catherine Ryan Cryan@bigfoot.com 21 Jan 1999 RAINEY

(see

LYONS ) RAWSON Searching

URL:

www.sfo.com/~timandpamwolf/sfranq_r.htm

e160c038.htm

by volunteers at OGS Quinte Branch | C

SURNAMES | CRYAN

f@ca.on.ogs.quinte_branch_library_collection

#gen-col-002-1 "Collier Family"

URL:

www.ogs.on.ca/ogspi/160/e160c038.htm

San Francisco County, California Queries

CO?), brothers & sisters families.

Catherine Ryan Cryan@bigfoot.com 21 Jan 1999

NEMETH

Looking for information on

URL:

www.sfo.com/~timandpamwolf/sfranq_n.htm

Essex County Steppin Out

through Sunday from noon to 3:30 p.m.

NIGHTLIFE CRYAN’S in South Orange will feature 50s-70s

music by the

URL: www.localsource.com/essexarts.htm

HTML document for the World Wide Web

topped Lisha Bodi in first singles and

Radabaugh stopped Kim Cryan in No.2 singles. Katie

Gartner, at

No.3 singles for FHS (

URL:

www.thecourier.com/issues/1996/sept/090696.htm

Courier Electronic Edition: 092997

at No.1 singles. Radabaugh beat

Whitmer's Lindsey Heigel and Bedford's Kim Cryan by

identical 6-1,

6-3 scores, then lost by

URL:

www.thecourier.com/issues/1997/sept/092997.htm

Seattle Times/P-I Classifieds: Announcements

& Notices

100% Occupancy - 8.46% CAP $39,773/Unit

Exclusively Bob Cryan (206) 694-1748 Lou Micheli

(206) 694-1700 Auburn - 4 plex, $285K,

URL:

www.seatimes.com/classified/real/b_docs/finvest.html

Seattle Times/P-I Classifieds: Real Estate

100% Occupancy - 8.46% CAP $39,773/Unit

Exclusively Bob Cryan (206) 694-1748 Lou Micheli

(206) 694-1700 Auburn - 4 plex, $285K,

URL:

www.seatimes.com/classified/real/b_docs/582.html

The Seattle Times Company Classified Ads

100% Occupancy - 8.46% CAP $39,773/Unit

Exclusively Bob Cryan (206) 694-1748 Lou Micheli

(206) 694-1700 Auburn - 4 plex, $285K,

URL:

www.seatimes.com/classified/real/b_docs/invest.html

 

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DEA- The Agency- The Administrator

Program. Mr. Constantine is married to

the former Miss Ruth Cryan, and has six children and

eleven

grandchildren.

URL: www.usdoj.gov/dea/agency/admin.htm

 

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Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 13:08:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Caoimhghin O Croidheain <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> | Subject: [CRYAN] searches2 To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Search Results Database: Germany Telephone & Address

Listings Combined Matches: 2

Name

Address

City

Zipcode

Phone Number

Cryan Maurice

Hohlweg 48

Frechen

50226

(02234) 61941

Cryan Roswitha

Hohlweg 48

Frechen

50226

(02234) 61941

 

 

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Combined Matches: 2

 

Name

Address

City

Phone

PANCANI CRYAN

dr.Mary Jane

90, v. cassia

VETRALLA

0761-485002

CRYAN Steven

60 v.Domiziana Rete e

Settore di

Lago Patria,Distretto di

Napoli

CASTEL

VOLTURNO

0823-5094903

 

 

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Database: Joliet, Illinois Directories,

1884-92

Combined Matches: 2

 

Name

Business Name

Occupation

Location 1

Location 2

City

State

Year

Mary Cryan

domestic

602

Exchange

Joliet

IL

1887

Mary Cryan

domestic

602

Exchange

Joliet

IL

1888

 

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Database: Lowell, Massachusetts Directories,

1889-90

Combined Matches: 35

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Name

Business

Name

Occupation

Location

1

Location 2

City

State

Year

Miss Annie

Cryan

Boott Cotton

Mills

boards 3, rear 153

Worthen

Lowell

MA

1889

Michael J.;

Martin

Cryan Bros.

groceries and

provisions

189

Market

Lowell

MA

1889

Edward J.

Cryan

wool-comb

maker

boards 22 Chapel

Lowell

MA

1889

Miss Etta

Cryan

Lawrence

Mfg. Co.

boards 3, rear 153

Worthen

Lowell

MA

1889

Miss

Hannah

Cryan

Merrimack

Mfg. Co.

boards 3, rear 153

Worthen

Lowell

MA

1889

James

Cryan

Merrimack

Mfg. Co.

house 34 Lilley

avenue

Lowell

MA

1889

James

Cryan, Jr.

Navy Yard

boards 11 Lilley

avenue

Lowell

MA

1889

John Cryan

laborer

boards 3, rear 153

Worthen

Lowell

MA

1889

Martin

Cryan

Cryan Bros.

189

Market

boards 82 1/2

Merrimack Mfg.

Co. corporation,

Prince

Lowell

MA

1889

Miss Mary

Cryan

Lawrence

Mfg. Co.

boards 3, rear 153

Worthen

Lowell

MA

1889

 

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1889-90

Combined Matches: 35

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Name

Business

Name

Occupation

Location

1

Location 2

City

State

Year

Mary

Cryan

widow

house 22 Chapel

Lowell

MA

1889

Miss Mary

A. Cryan

Brown Bros.

saleswoman

bds. 22 Chapel

Lowell

MA

1889

Michael

Cryan

laborer

house 1 Carolin's

court

Lowell

MA

1889

M. J.

Cryan

Cryan Bros.

189

Market

house same

location

Lowell

MA

1889

Thomas

Cryan

Merrimack

Mfg. Co.

fireman

82 1/2 same

location

corporation,

Prince

Lowell

 

 

MA

1889

Thomas

Cryan

painter

house 20 Chapel

Lowell

MA

1889

Timothy

Cryan

fireman

house 3, rear 153

Worthen

Lowell

MA

1889

Miss Annie

Cryan

Boott Cotton

Mills

boards 3, rear 153

Worthen

Lowell

MA

1890

Michael J.;

Martin

Cryan Bros.

groceries and

provisions

189

Market

Lowell

MA

1890

Edward J.

Cryan

confectionery,

etc.

56

Dutton

bds. 22 Chapel

Lowell

MA

1890

 

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1889-90

Combined Matches: 35

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Name

Business

Name

Occupation

Location 1

Location 2

City

State

Year

Miss Etta

Cryan

Lawrence Mfg.

Co.

boards 3, rear

153 Worthen

Lowell

MA

1890

Miss Hannah

Cryan

Merrimack Mfg.

Co.

boards 3, rear

153 Worthen

Lowell

MA

1890

James Cryan

Lowell

MA

1890

James Cryan,

Jr.

Navy

Yard

boards 34 Lilley

avenue

Lowell

MA

1890

John Cryan

laborer

boards 117

Worthen

Lowell

MA

1890

Martin Cryan

Cryan Bros.

189

Market

b. Fourth avenue

near Mt. Hope

Lowell

MA

1890

Mary Cryan

widow

house 22 Chapel

Lowell

MA

1890

Miss Mary

Cryan

Lawrence Mfg.

Co.

boards 3, rear

153 Worthen

Lowell

MA

1890

Miss Mary A.

Cryan

boards 22 Chapel

Lowell

MA

1890

Michael

Cryan

laborer

house 1 Carolin's

court

Lowell

MA

1890

 

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Search Terms: CRYAN (35)

Database: Lowell, Massachusetts Directories,

1889-90

Combined Matches: 35

Previous Hits

 

Name

Business Name

Occupation

Location 1

Location 2

City

State

Year

Michael J.

Cryan

Cryan Bros.

189

Market

Fourth avenue

n. Mt. Hope

Lowell

MA

1890

Sarah

Cryan

widow

house 34 Lilley

avenue

Lowell

MA

1890

Thomas

Cryan

Merrimack Mfg. Co.

manufacturing Co.

fireman

Lowell

MA

1890

Thomas

Cryan

painter

house 20

Chapel

Lowell

MA

1890

Timothy

Cryan

fireman

house 3, rear

153 Worthen

Lowell

MA

1890

 

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Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 13:15:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Caoimhghin O Croidheain <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> Subject: [CRYAN] searches3

To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Search Results

Search Terms: CRYAN (3)

Database: Fort Worth Star-Telegram (Texas),

Obituaries, 1990-2000

Combined Matches: 3

Headline: OBITUARIES

Publication Date: May 12, 1994

Source: The Fort Worth Star-Telegram

Page: 23

Subjects:

Region: Dallas-Ft. Worth Metro, Texas

Obituary:

KENNEDALE - Jackson Marion Hill, a concrete

finisher for the Fort Worth street department, died

Wednesday at his Kennedale home. He was 72.

Funeral will be at 2 p.m. Saturday at

Emerald Hills Funeral Home. Burial will be in Emerald

Hills Memorial

Park. The family will receive friends from 6

to 8 p.m. Friday at the funeral home.

Mr. Hill was born in Myrtle Springs and had

lived in Kennedale 34 years.

He was a charter member of Tabernacle

Baptist Church of Rendon.

Survivors: Wife, Frances Hill of Kennedale;

two daughters, Linda Jones of Dublin and Diane Layne

of

Kennedale; three brothers, Perry D. Hill of

Gustine, Lewis Hill of Henderson and William L. Hill

of Millsap;

six sisters, Lorene Blanton and Dorothy

Cryan, both of Houston, Grace Glick of Plantersville,

Ola Mae Henry

of Sydney, Willie Blanton of Whitney and

Lucy Pearl Hill of Eastland; and five grandchildren.

Lola Ruth Love

 

Headline: OBITUARIES

Publication Date: May 12, 1994

Source: The Fort Worth Star-Telegram

Page: 23

Subjects:

Region: Dallas-Ft. Worth Metro, Texas

Obituary:

KENNEDALE - Jackson Marion Hill, a concrete

finisher for the Fort Worth street department, died

Wednesday at his Kennedale home. He was 72.

Funeral will be at 2 p.m. Saturday at

Emerald Hills Funeral Home.

Burial will be in Emerald Hills Memorial

Park. The family will receive friends from 6 to 8 p.m.

Friday at the

funeral home.

Mr. Hill was born in Myrtle Springs and had

lived in Kennedale 34 years.

He was a charter member of Tabernacle

Baptist Church of Rendon.

Survivors: Wife, Frances Hill of Kennedale;

two daughters, Linda Jones of Dublin and Diane Layne

of

Kennedale; three brothers, Perry D. Hill of

Gustine, Lewis Hill of Henderson and William L. Hill

of Millsap;

six sisters, Lorene Blanton and Dorothy

Cryan, both of Houston, Grace Glick of Plantersville,

Ola Mae Henry

of Sydney, Willie Blanton of Whitney and

Lucy Pearl Hill of Eastland; and five grandchildren.

Lola Ruth Love

 

Headline: Obituaries

Publication Date: May 31, 1999

Source: The Fort Worth Star-Telegram

Page:

Subjects:

Region:

Obituary:

BOYD - Mary Chaney Hague, 93, former owner

and operator of Hague Grocery and Feed Store near

Boyd,

died Saturday, May 29, 1999, in Dallas.

Graveside service: 10 a.m. Monday at

Cottondale Cemetery.

Memorials: Cottondale Endowment Perpetual

Care Fund.

Mary Chaney Hague was born Nov. 17, 1905, in

Cottondale. She was a Baptist.

Survivors: Nieces, Betty Cryan and Amy

Chaney; nephew, Kenneth Chaney. Christian-Hawkins

Funeral

Home Boyd, (940) 433-5310

Marye A. Agee Hildreth

 

 

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From: Kilduffons@aol.com | Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 20:56:36 EDT Subject:

Fremantle Prison, Western Australia convict search To: ROSCOMMON-L@rootsweb.com

This website tip just came in from a fellow researcher. Many Irish

were incarcerated in this prison. There is a very good search engine at the

site which searches the database by surname. Many of the records include

the name of the ship the convict came over in, along with the place they were

sentenced, the crime, etc. Very interesting!

<<"Fremantle Prison is one of Western Australia's premier heritage

sites,centrally located in the heart of the port city of Fremantle. The

Prisonwas built by convicts in the 1850s and was closed as a place of

incarcerationin 1991 after 136 years of continuous use>>

Go to:

http://www.fremantleprison.com/content/crime_punishment/convict_intro.asp

Christi Carter KILDUFF

Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 02:59:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Caoimhghin O Croidheain <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> | Subject: [CRYAN] Buffalo News (New York), Obituaries

To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

http://www.ancestry.com/search/rectype/inddbs/3456.htm

Search Results

Search Terms: CRYAN (2)

Database: Buffalo News (New York), Obituaries,1992-2000

Combined Matches: 2

Headline: GEORGE E. FUSSELL

Publication Date: April 21, 1994

Source: Buffalo News

Page: D2

Subjects:

Region: New York

Obituary: Funeral services for George E. Fussell, 63,

of Center Street, a retired employee of Harrison

Division, General Motors Corp., will be held at 10

a.m. Friday in the Gaul Funeral Home, 263 East Ave.

Burial will be in Cold Spring Cemetery.

He died Tuesday (April 19, 1994) in Millard Fillmore

Suburban Hospital, Amherst, after a brief illness.

A native of Lockport, he had worked for 26 years at

Harrison before his retirement in 1988. He was a

testing and experimental technician.

Fussell was an avid sportsman, and one of his hobbies

was restoring antique automobiles.

Surviving are his wife, the former Joyce I. Cryan; a

son, Michael J.; a daughter, Sue Cooke; a sister, Mary

Louise Seiler of Florida; and two grandchildren.

{Sherwood}.

------------------------------------------------------------------------

Headline: ROBERT CRYAN, FBI AGENT, STATE POLICE

OFFICER

Publication Date: August 30, 1995

Source: Buffalo News

Page: C8

Subjects:

Region: New York

Obituary: A Mass of Christian Burial for Robert T.

Cryan, 86, who enjoyed a long and varied career in law

enforcement, will be offered at 10 a.m. Thursday in

Nativity of Our Lord Catholic Church, 26 Thorne Ave.,

Orchard Park.

Prayers will be said at 9:30 in F.E. Brown Sons

Funeral Home,

6575 E. Quaker St., Orchard Park. Burial will be in

Nativity Cemetery, Orchard Park.

Cryan died Monday (Aug. 28, 1995) in his Orchard Park

home.

A Buffalo native, he graduated from Canisius College

in 1933.

In 1970, Cryan was appointed the first Chapter 13

bankruptcy trustee for the Western New York federal

judicial district.

Cryan joined the Federal Bureau of Investigation in

1941 as a special agent, and during a 20-year career

with the FBI he became one of the bureau's first judo

and firearms instructors, teaching classes to other

agents and police officers throughout the state and

nation.

After retiring from the FBI in 1961, Cryan joined the

New York State Police. As a captain, he initiated the

Special Investigatory Unit of the Bureau of Criminal

Investigation, which specialized in organized crime

and narcotics.

He retired from the State Police in 1969 and in May

1970 was appointed by then-Erie County Executive B.

John Tutuska a member of the Narcotics Enforcement

Board.

Survivors include five sons, David of Holland, Robert

Jr. of Cheektowaga, Frank of Laurel Springs, N.J.,

Richard of East Aurora and Michael of Fredericksburg,

Va.; four daughters, Ruth Constantine of Falls Church,

Va., Patricia St. Angelo of Northville, Peg Handford

of Rensselaer and Mary Millett of Stockton; 31

grandchildren, and 36 great-grandchildren.

{Churchill}.

 

Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 02:56:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Caoimhghin O Croidheain <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> | Subject: [CRYAN] Database: Danbury, Connecticut Directories, 1885-90 To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Database: Danbury, Connecticut Directories,

1885-90 no Cryans,creans,or crines

Search Terms: CREHAN (16)Combined Matches: 16

Name

Business

Name

Occupation

Location 1

Location 2

City

State

Year

Patrick

Crehan

hatter

Sheridan n

Cottage

Danbury

CT

1885,

1886

Michael

Crehan

hatter

boards Grand

Danbury

CT

1886,

1887

Martin

Crehan

hatter

458 Main

Danbury

CT

1886,

1887

Michael

Crehan

hatter

9 Nichols

Danbury

CT

1886,

1887

Patrick

Crehan

Meeker Bros.

foreman

60 Sheridan

Danbury

CT

1886,

1887

Martin

Crehan

hatter

60 Sheridan

Danbury

CT

1888,

1889

Michael

Crehan

hatter

4 Grand

Danbury

CT

1888,

1889

Patrick

Crehan

Meeker Bros.

foreman

60 Sheridan

Danbury

CT

1888,

1889

Simon

Crehan

hatter

60 Sheridan

Danbury

CT

1888,

1889

Martin

Crehan

hatter

153 1/2 Main

Danbury

CT

1889

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Search Results

Search Terms: CREHAN (16)

Database: Danbury, Connecticut Directories,

1885-90

Combined Matches: 16

Name

Business Name

Occupation

Location 1

Location 2

City

State

Year

Patrick Crehan

Meeker Bros.

foreman

60 Sheridan

Danbury

CT

1889

Simon Crehan

hatter

60 Sheridan

Danbury

CT

1889

Martin S.

Crehan

hatter

153 1/2 Main

Danbury

CT

1890

Michael Crehan

hatter

11 Seeley

Danbury

CT

1890

Patrick S.

Crehan

hatter

60 Sheridan

Danbury

CT

1890

Simon Crehan

hatter

60 Sheridan

Danbury

CT

1890

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Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 07:23:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Caoimhghin O Croidheain <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> |   Subject: [CRYAN] Allentown Morning Call (Pennsylvania), Obituaries, To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

ancestry.com

Search Results

Search Terms: CRYAN (1)

Database: Allentown Morning Call (Pennsylvania),

Obituaries, 1998-2000

Combined Matches: 1

Headline: ESTHER ATTINELLO

Publication Date: November 02, 1999

Source: Allentown Morning Call

Page: A15

Subjects:

Region: Pennsylvania

Obituary: Esther Attinello, 93, formerly of Clymer

Village, Lopatcong Township, N.J.,died Sunday, Oct.

31, in Warren Haven, Mansfield Township, N.J. She was

thewife of the late Thomas C. Attinello.

She was last employed by the Carl Joseph Co.,

Lopatcong Township, andpreviously worked at Chipman's

Knitting Mill, Easton, and the Old Standard

andTirrell's silk mills in Phillipsburg.

Born in Salford, Manchester, England, she was a

daughter of the lateHerbert B. and Charlotte (Pye)

Hill.

She was a member of Grace Lutheran Church,

Phillipsburg, where she was aSunday school teacher for

more than 40 years. Also at the church, she was

amember of the Single's Club, a former member of the

Lutheran Church Women,former treasurer of the

Friendly Club and a participant in the Meals on

Wheelsprogram.

She was a member of the Harmony (N.J.) Seniors and a

former member of theLeisure Time Club,

Phillipsburg.

Survivors: Sisters, Charlotte Azzalina of Eaton,

Ohio, and Edna Cryan ofPhillipsburg, nieces and

nephews.

Services: 11 a.m. Thursday, Rupell Funeral Home, 465

Memorial Parkway,Phillipsburg. Call 7-9 p.m.

Wednesday.

Contributions: Charity of one's choice.

{KEYWORDS}DEATH OBITUARY

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From: Fatarm@aol.com | Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 00:19:07 EDT Subject: [CRYAN] Happy arrival of new Cryan descendant To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

I'm happy to announce the healthy arrival of Calvin Thomas Poché on

June 5, 2000. Cal is the second great great grandson of our last Cryan

descendant, Agnes Cryan Smyth. Now I've got to get busy and find this boy some

ancestors!

While I'm adjusting to life as the parent of two boys (oh, how life

used to be simpler!) know that you all are in the very capable hands of Michael

Tobin. Please continue to post any problems to the list directly, and

Michael will be sure to help you out. –Leslie

Reply-to: <ariley@ltp.org> From: "A. Riley" <ariley@ltp.org> | Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 13:28:42 -0500 Subject: [CRYAN] CRYAN-L: Update on our research

To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Dear Cryans,

My cousin Pam and I have gathered a little bit more about our ancestor

AttyCryan who brought her ten kids to America in 1848, after her husband

JohnCryan died, but we're running into a brick wall.

We've know that Atty and the kids landed in Boston, stayed in

Leominster,Mass. for a few years, and then came west to Wisconsin. Family lore

has thefamily going west in 1855 with a brother-in-law named Mark

Cryan/Crane/Crain. This brother-in-law had come to America earlier, and

wesuspect he lived in Boston or Leominster. We hear he had written to

Attybefore John died asking that the two oldest daughters come join him in

thenew world. Anyway, in about 1855, the crowd settled in Rosendale

township,Fond du Lac County, Wisconsin. (Later they went to Eldorado township, a

fewmiles away, and there they stayed.)

We haven't been able to find a thing about this brother-in-law. I've

seen acensus index that has a Matthew Crane with an asterisk, meaning they're

notsure of that spelling, and that's all I've found. There's an Edmund

Cranelisted in the Wisconsin homestead records, but we've found that he's

Mayflower-era English heritage. Phooey. Where's that darn

brother-in-law?

If his name was indeed Mark, he was definitely beloved in the family,

because the name shows up in every generation. We want to find out more

about this brave brother-in-law who helped his widowed sister-in-law

and allthose nieces and nephews build a new life in a new country.

Another proud descendant of Atty Cryan,

A. Riley

ariley@ltp.org

From: "Anthony & Jill Cryan" <cryanaj@ozemail.com.au> Organisation: The Adjutant's Desk Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2000 21:13:50 +1000 Reply-to: cryanaj@ozemail.com.au Subject: [CRYAN] Cryan family from Sligo To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Excuse the basic title (yes, I know there are a lot in Sligo), but I'm

trying to spread a net to trap pieces of my particular puzzle.

I would like to hear from anyone who may be able to link with the

following or provide additional information :

Domnick Cryan (1802:1892) m. Catherine Cawly / Cawley / Cauley

Children known: James (1846:?), Thomas (1854:1894), Patrick

(1855 ? : ?), Catherine (1860: ?) , Sarah (1866:1889)

Of the children, Thomas and Catherine came to Australia in 1878

I would be interested to hear from anyone who may have

connections, and in particular anyone who may have data on

Domnick and Catherine and their lines before them.

I have information on the Cryan clan in Australia.

thankstc

Anthony Cryancryanaj@ozemail.com.auBrisbane Qld, Australia

From: RoArd29@aol.com | Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 14:17:58 EDT

Subject: Great Griffith's Bk. To: ROSCOMMON-L@rootsweb.com

For those of you who have questions about Griffith's Valuation (and who

doesn't), you should know about a new book "Richard Griffith and His

Valuations of Ireland" by James R. Reilly. It should really be called

"Everything you always wanted to know about Griffith's Valuation but

didn't even know enough to ask." The author answers very clearly and directly

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No one who is attempting to use Griffith's Valuation should be without this

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Reply-to: "Paul Hanly" <PNARH@bigpond.com> From:

"Paul Hanly" <PNARH@bigpond.com> | 

Subject: Re: List members in Ireland Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 11:58:12 +1000

To: ROSCOMMON-L@rootsweb.com

When wanting to find out if there are people of a surname living in

Ireland,go to the Irish Phone books on line.There is a link from the Leitrim Roscommon Genealogy home page.http://www.leitrim-roscommon.com/ or just go to

http://www.goldenpages.ie/dthtml/phonebookframe.html

Also you can try a search of eg Hotmail. www.homail.com if you are a

memberafter logging in.

cheersPaul

----- Original Message -----

Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 17:58:17 PDT From: Karen McElrath <K.McElrath@Queens-Belfast.AC.UK> |   Subject: [CRYAN] Re: O'Neil Cryan

To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

was someone searching for an O'Neil Cryan? if so, there is

a message regarding above at:

http://www.familyhistory.com/messages/showmsg.asp?forumid=50

198&msgnum=1226&gs=1

cheers,karen

Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2000 19:50:43 PDT From: Karen McElrath <K.McElrath@Queens-Belfast.AC.UK> |   Reply-to: K.McElrath@Queens-Belfast.AC.UK

Subject: [CRYAN] US Civil War To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

sorry for replying to the list - this info is for Tony Cryan

(Australia) specifically but i have lost his email address. not sure if you havecome across the

Dominick Cryan who served for the Confederacy in the US civil war - Company C, 46

Georgia Infantry (private). He would be far older than your Domnick, who i

know did not reside in the US anyway, but the first name is unusual and i thought

there might be a link. if you are interested and have not already done so, you can

order Dominick's military AND pension records, which sometimes includes data

on parents' names, residence at enlistment, and last residence, spouse,

year of immigration, etc. Contact the US national archives through their

website and follow the instructions. apologies if this is 'old news' to you.

karen

From: "Anthony & Jill Cryan" <cryanaj@ozemail.com.au> | 

Organisation: The Adjutant's Desk Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 23:06:29 +1000

Subject: Re: [CRYAN] US Civil War Reply-to: cryanaj@ozemail.com.au

To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Karen McElrath wrote:

> sorry for replying to the list - this info is for Tony Cryan

> (Australia) specifically but i have lost his email address.

Thanks for thinking of me Karen.

Yes, I have that info thanks (haven't requested any records though).

I think I even posted it to the list once.

There appear to have been at least 4 Cryans in the ACW, 2 per

side - Infantry, Artillery, Infantry / Navy / POW.

A side hobby of mine is military history so I have an interest in any

such references - from whatever period - even if they aren't related.

My email contacts:

home - cryanaj@ozemail.com.au

work - anthony.cryan@citec.com.au

Once again, thankstc

Anthony & Jill Cryan

cryanaj@ozemail.com.au

From: Fatarm@aol.com | Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 14:32:32 EDT Subject:

[CRYAN] Rootsweb & Ancestry.com relationship, free offer To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

This is a re-post from the rootsweb review email earlier this month

(7/19/00):

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From: Peter Farrell <Peter_Farrell@troweprice.com> | 

Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 16:09:27 -0400 Subject: [CRYAN] Thomas and Bridget Cryan: Peter Niland To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Patrick,

I am responding to your message from January 15 of this year. I am the

great-grandson of Peter Niland ( aka Nyland ) and Bridget Cryan. The

samePeter Niland that was left the farm and I have a photgraph of the old

house( seen as a cow barn 10 years ago or so) if you would like it. You

mentioned you had a copy of the will and I was wondering if you had the

dates, of the transfer. We don't know to much about Peter or Bridget

exceptthat Peter lost a leg while serving in the British Army and he also had

afew poems published. Its hard to imagine how he managed the farm, with

itshills, on a wooden leg, but he did. My second cousin, Mary

nee'NilandAmato, believes that, Peter inherited the farm because none of Thomas'

brother's still lived in the area. To be honest we don't know, why.

MaybeBridget Cryan was his favorite? Does the will mention anything?

Also, it appears we are distant ( fourth?) cousins. If you are

interestedin the family tree that includes the descendants of the seven children

Ihave of Peter Niland and Bridget Cryan. Please let me know.

Hope to hear from you,

- Peter Farrell

pfarrell@troweprice.com

REF;Thomas Cryan 15/07/1861 origin Drumfin Townland.was his parents

marriage. sponsers were pat cryan jacob morrison,Bridget was from the

Townland of Carrigans Upper near Ballymote, parish of Emlagfad.Anna

Niland

born 26/04/1876 Drumfin

Brothers of Bridget.

PAT CRYAN-MARY McHUGH BORN 1829 MARRIED. 1856. DIED, 1878

JOHN CRYAN MARY O GARA BORN1834 MARRIED 1860. DIED 1889.

THOMAS CRYAN BRIDGET HUNT BORN1836 MARRIED 1874 DIED 1883

ALL CARRIGANS UPPER

IIST OF CHILDREN PAT.BIDDY 1857,BEEZY,1865, MARY,1869, CATHERINE1876

JOHN,BRIDGET,1862, PATRICK 1864,MICHAEL,1866, MARY,1867,JOHN

1869,CATHERINE,1875

THOMAS,JOHN,1875,[KNOWN AS THE HERMIT].WHEN HE DIED IN 1943 AGED YEARS

HELEFT HIS FARM TO APETER NYLAND WHO LATER SOLD IT TO A GOLDEN FAMILY I

HAVETHE WILL. AT HOME

SORRY ABOUT THE PRINTING I AM NEW AT THIS E- MAIL

PATRICK CRYANS

Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 16:51:37 -0400 From: Ali Crehan <alison_crehan@yahoo.com> |   Subject: [CRYAN] (CRYAN) Introduction To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Greetings!

my name is Alison Crehan, and I am absolutely brand spanking new to

the entire genealogy universe, so forgive me if I seem bumbling or

ill-informed! I live in Quincy, Massachusetts, on the South Shore of

Boston.

My family seems to know little to nothing about its origins, and

recently I have become very curious about the Crehan family. I'm

hoping I can find out a bit more about where we came from and who we

are.

My information goes back only a few generations. I am told that my

great-grandfather was named James Crehan, and he was from somewhere

in Ireland. Family members disagree on whether he stopped in Canada

for a spell on his way to Hingham, Massachusetts, and no one recalls

exactly where in Ireland he came from. James married Isabel Lowrey

sometime in the 1860's (we think!), and they had seven children

survive to adulthood: Henry, Fred, William, Isabelle, Elizabeth,

Alice, Helen, and Herbert. These children were pretty colorful

characters, which has only served to pique my interest! Adding to the

mystery is the fact that sometime in the early 1900s, James deserted

his family and was never heard from again.

The family scattered, and many of the people who could clear up

mysteries for me have passed away.

Any advice, hints, thoughts, or suggestions would be greatly

appreciated! I apologize if I'm giving too much or too little

information in my introductory email. I know I have a very daunting

task ahead of me!! :)Best,Alison

Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 14:03:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Caoimhghin O Croidheain <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> |   Subject: [CRYAN] foto of Tom Cryan - journalist

To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

foto of Tom Cryan

Life Membership for Branch Members

http://indigo.ie/~nujdub/photo2.htm

New Life Members at the National Print Museum in

July 1998 where NUJ President Mark Turnbull did

the honours. This was the largest number of Branch

members ever to be so honoured at one time. Front

row ( l to r): Pat Walsh, Gerry Carroll, Larry

Duff, Mark Turnbull, President NUJ, Joe Power, Derek

Jones and Padraig Naughton. Back row: Tom Cryan,

John O'Reilly, Paddy Downey, Ned Van-Esbeck, Jim

McArdle, Tom Brady, Martin Fitzpatrick, Branch

Chair, Kevin Moore, NUJ vice-president, Michel

O'Farrell, Raymond Smith, Maurice Hearne and

Michael Dunne.

http://indigo.ie/~nujdub/photo2.htm

Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 17:51:47 -0700 (PDT) From: "Alison M. Crehan" <alison_crehan@yahoo.com> | Subject: [CRYAN] CRYAN - Crehans in Higham MA

To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Hello all -

this weekend, I took a trip to St. Paul's Cemetery in

Hingham MA, where many of my family members are

buried. I found several other gravesites bearing the

name Crehan, and am sending along all of the

information I found. I'm including little notes on my

family, in case it rings a bell with anyone anywhere.

Let me know if this information is at all helpful to

you!1)The front of the monument bears the name LOWREY;

this was my great-grandmother's maiden name, and her

parents names are listed on the front of the monument.

On the back is the name CREHAN, and listed below are:

HENRY L. 1889-His Wife ISABEL M., Died Dec. 22, 1947

(Notes: Henry Lawrence is my great uncle Harry. He

married a woman with the same name as his sainted

mother and beloved sister, but they kept separate

apartments in New York City; Harry lived in a hotel,

while his wife stayed with her family. I don't know

why Harry chose for them to be buried with the Lowreys

rather than the rest of his family at the other end of

the row. I *do* know that Harry has not had the year

of his death inscribed due to a protracted family

squabble, sigh; he passed away in 1982.)

2) At the other end of the same row is the monument

for the rest of the family, bearing the name CREHAN.

The front of the stone lists the following:

1862 ISABEL LOWRY 1929

1897 THOMAS FRANCIS 1897

1901 HERBERT FRANCIS 1950

1907 RUPERTA SKELTON 1979

1891 ISABEL 1976

1896 ELIZABETH 1977

(Notes: 1.The spelling on my great-grandmother's name

is different than on the other monument. 2. Herbert is

my grandfather; he lived in Hull, MA and is the father

to Herbert Jr. and Ann Crehan Curley. 3. Ruperta is my

paternal grandmother, Herb's wife. 4. Isabel and

Elizabeth "Zum" were never married, and stayed

together their whole lives.)

On the back of the stone is listed:

1892 WILLIAM J. 1950

(Notes: Willie was the family scoundrel. Harry had put

himself through Harvard and graduated Phi Beta Kappa;

his younger brother Fred was on his way to the same

when Willie ran away to Canada to join the RAF, taking

all of Fred's tuition money with him - or so the story

goes. When Willie died, the Canadians contacted Harry;

Harry refused to allow Willie to be lsited on the same

side of the grave as their mother, whose heart was

broken by her son's betrayal - or so the story goes!)

3)The next stone bore the name CREHAN on the front,

and listed the following:

MATTHIAS CREHAN, Died May 12, 1882

ELLEN CREHAN, His Wife, Died October 10, 1903

NELLIE F. 1937

MAURICE B. DOWER 1900-1955

A ground plaque in front listed:

MAURICE BOWDEN DOWER

MASSACHUSETTS

GM1 USNR

WORLD WAR II

APRIL 23, 1900 - MAY 18, 1955

The back of the headstone lists:

JAMES M. DOWER 1939

CATHERINE C. 1928

JOAN C. Taylor 1930-1944

HELEN C. McGRATH 1901-1975

FRANK J. McGRATH 1898-1977

JANICE E. TAYLOR 1926

4) Right next to #3 is an ornately carved grey

monument bearing the name CREHAN; the following are

listed on the front:

PATRICK CREHAN Dec 26, 1877

MARGARET KEARNS CREHAN April 10, 1920

MARY A. CREHAN July 4, 1919

MARK A. CREHAN Nov. 17, 1927

CHARLES D. CREHAN Jan 12, 1934-Nov 2, 1969

There are three ground plaques behind the monument:

a) Charles D. Crehan

Massachusetts

PFC Infantry

Jan 12, 1934 Nov. 2, 1969

b)Joseph Crehan

Massachusetts

2D LT 1 Replacement Depot

World War I

Nov 16 1894 May 11 1962

c) Charles F. Crehan

PVT US MARINE CORPS

World War I

1899-1983

5) A double headstone was found a few rows away for:

MARY CREHAN REIMNGTON CATHERINE CREHAN

October 23 1896 January 7, 1898

AGED 60 YRS AGED 75 YRS

A larger headstone behind this one; the front reads:

1856 THOMAS L. CREHAN 1910

CREHAN

The back reads:

1833 LAWRENCE CREHAN

HIS WIFE

1830 CATHERINE CREHAN 1898

1822 HONORA CREHAN 1863

1831 MARY CREHAN 1909

As far as I know, I am not related to any of theseother Crehans.

An additional resource for these Crehans:

http://www.rootsweb.com/~mahingha/index.html

If you go to this page, and follow the links for the

book on the history of Hingham, you will find a little

info on the Crehans. I was able to find a possible

marriage date for James & Isabel Crehan using this

book! Hope this info is of help to someone... I did take the

precaution of photographing each headstone, to provide

a permanent record for myself.

Cheers, Ali

Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 14:54:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Caoimhghin O Croidheain <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> Subject: [CRYAN] Cryan's bar To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Cryan's bar in downtown South Orange, New Jersey

http://www.mailbase.ac.uk/lists/irl-news/1998-03/0023.html

>>> Sinn Fein to return to talks - Adams

Sinn Fein President Gerry Adams said at the start

of a six-day visit to the United States on Thursday

that his party was ready to re-enter peace negotiations in

Ireland. "I don't think it's a matter of if, I think it's a

matter of when," Adams told a news conference

before a talk at Seton Hall University in New Jersey town.

"We didn't want to be put out of the talks in the

first place," he added. Amid new unionist opposition to

the presence of Republicans at talks, Adams said of Ulster

Unionist leader David Trimble last night: "Obviously he is

someone we want to talk with and to make peace

with." "Sinn Fein will come very positively to these

talks. And it isn't up to Mr Trimble to block or to in

any way impede the rights of those people who vote for

Sinn Fein."

* Later, at Cryan's bar in downtown South Orange,

New Jersey, Sinn Fein chief negotiator Martin

McGuinness and Adams addressed a crowd of over 500 people.

"I'm absolutely convinced that we're going to see

a united Ireland," McGuinness said. "We're not going

to see it in May. We know that."

But Sinn Fein would seek consensus to continue to

move toward the goal of freedom in Ireland, he added,

and suggested that next 10 months or so could be the

most important in Ireland's history

From: Fatarm@aol.com | Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 15:56:10 EDT Subject:

Re: [CRYAN] Cryan's bar To: caoimhghin@yahoo.com

This is the bar that my grandmother stopped in once on a trip and

inquired about where these Cryans were from (Roscommon) .... I think I mentioned

this once before to you, so I thought I'd fill in the detail, lest you begin

to believe there's more than one Cryan's in New Jersey! -Leslie P.S.

Thanks for the posting, I've got to get busy and find some more to put up on

the list!

From: Fatarm@aol.com | Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 15:59:56 EDT Subject: [CRYAN] O'Crean discussion happening on sligo list To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

To the Crean researchers: a few genealogists have been discussing the

O'Crean name and printed resources over the last few days on the Sligo

list (to subscribe email IRL-SLIGO-L-request@rootsweb.com with "subscribe"

in the message body). Here's a partial excerpt:

Jim, As you undoubtedly know, Wood-Martin has surprising little to say

about theCrean family other than that they were the merchant princes of Sligo

for severalcenturies. Mary O'Dowd provides much more info on them in her "Power

Politics &Land: Sligo 1568-1688." She said Roger Jones, the Protestant, gained

from themarriage of Elicia Jones (whom she said was probably his niece) to

RoebuckCrean, calling the match "profitable and shrewd" and "a wise move to

ally withthem rather than try to establish a rival business" of importing and

exporting. What happened to the merchant family of Creans? It seemed to have

survivedthe Cromwellian confiscations. Could it have been one of Sligo's many

plagues orlack of male heirs?

Paul Burns

Jim McDonald wrote:

> My wife has the name CREAN of Sligo in her line and while we are not

tracing> it at the moment I came across the following which might be of

interest to> others. The location is Sligo Abbey:

>> "This tomb belongs to the O'Creans or Creans who were the wealthiest

people> in Sligo, in the sixteenth and seventeenth centuries, and who

expended no> small share of their wealth on works of art, and, more especially, on

works> of art connected with religion. Several monuments of theirs which are

now> broken up, occupied the north and south sides of the tower. Inside

the> western arch of the tower are sculptured, on two small flags, two

heraldic> shields - one bearing the arms of the O'Creans, and the other the

arms of> Jones of Banada; and under one of the shields may be deciphered, with

some> little trouble, the following curious lines:-

>> 'Wee two are one by His decree

> That reigneth from eternity

> That first erected have these stones

> Wee Robuck Crean and Alice Jones.'

>> It would appear probable from these lines that one of the O'Creans

was> married to a daughter or niece of Sir Roger Jones, from whom the

Joneses of> Banada descend; he and a brother being the only Joneses then in

Sligo; and> we might be justified in inferring from the suggestive wording of the

first> two lines, coupled with the fact that Sir Roger's family was then

> Protestant. and the O'Creans Catholic, that the marriage, while duly

> celebrated 'in facie ecclesice', was not contracted before a

Protestant> minister, as the civil laws of the day required. At the top of the

O'Crean> shield is the date 1625" (O'Rorke. 1889).

>> O'Rorke thought it likely that the epitaph was composed on the

principle of> one found at Launceston in Tasmania.

>> Jim McDonald

> culrua@iol.ie

> Source: O'Rorke, T. (1889) Vol.1. 'History of Sligo Town and County'.

p.253

Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2000 15:35:00 +0000 Subject: Cryan again

From: Patrick Hunt <pathunt@indigo.ie> | To: Caoimhghin O Croidheain <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>

Caoimhghin,

Did you complete your family tree?

I am still trying to trace descendants of the famous Master Cryan

Who ran the College in the Bog (Townabrack NS) in the last 20 years of the

19thC. I have established that two sons of his, William and Thomas,

attended Clongowes Wood College in the 1890s. One of them, I know, was killed in

a motor cycle accident in Dublin, probably in the 1930s.

Thomas Cryan NT deserves to be remembered, his story deserves to be

told. I want to rule in or out the possibility of connections with your

family. I think your Dad is related to other Cryan journalists, one of

whom,(his name escapes me) worked for the Irish Independent.

I note that your dad has retired. Please give him my wishes for a

longand serenely happy retirement. He gave his profession great service.

Hisletters to The Irish Times were models of clarity and logic.

Best wishes, Pat Hunt

 

 

Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2000 02:49:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Caoimhghin O Croidheain <caoimhghin@yahoo.com [CRYAN] cousins To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2000 09:15:02 -0400 Subject: Re: [IRL-SLIGO] First cousins, second cousinsetc..? From: w2gkn@juno.com To: IRL-SLIGO-L@rootsweb.com

Chris: The diagram got all fouled up in transmission.

Let's try

again.

B1 B2

| |

S1 S2

| |

G1 G2

| |

GG1 GG2

Hopefully this diagram will come through ok. Here

goes! B1 and B2 are

brothers. S1 and S2 are first cousins. G1 and G2 are

second cousins.

GG1 and GG2 are third cousins since all are on the

same horizontal line

of descendancy. However, G2 is a first cousin once

removed of S1 and G1

is a first cousin once removed of S2. GG1 is a first

cousin twice

removed of S2 and GG2 is a first cousin twice removed

of

S1. Moving down the line, GG1 is a second cousin once

removed of G2

and

GG2 is a second cousin once removed of G1.

Hope this comes through the way it should.

Frank in Altamont, NY

 

 

From: GeneScene@aol.com |   Date:

Sun, 6 Aug 2000 23:08:01 EDT Subject: [IRL-SLIGO] Re:first and second cousins

To: IRL-SLIGO-L@rootsweb.com

The way I learned it was that first cousins had the

same grandparents, secondcousins had the same g-grandparents, and so on.

Ann

> Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2000 04:38:59 -0700 (PDT) From:

Sean Crean <sfcrean@yahoo.com> | 

Subject: Re: [IRL-SLIGO] Need birth record copy from Sligo

To: IRL-SLIGO-L@rootsweb.com

MaryAnn,

Would it be too much trouble if you could check on one

more? My ggrandfather Patrick Crean was born in Sligo

1849-1850 (died in 1918 with the ages of 68 & 69

reported on two different documents). I believe his

father was James Crean. But I'm looking to confirm.

Patrick married Elizabeth Skeffington around 1868 -

70. Their first daughter Mary was born in 1870. If

they have the marriage & or birth certificate of

Patrick that would be a big help.

Thank you.

Sean Crean

 

From: "Kevin J. Crean" <Kevin_J._Crean@HUD.GOV> | 

Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2000 08:24:08 -0400

Subject: Re: [IRL-SLIGO] Need birth record copy from Sligo

To: IRL-SLIGO-L@rootsweb.com

I hate to take advantage of your kind offer, MaryAnn, but since my

great-grandfather may be related to Sean Crean's great-grandfather and

may befound in the same place, I would ask if you could make a note of a

Michael Creanas well. I have very little information on him other than he was born

in Sligoaround 1849 and married Celia Conmy, also from Sligo sometime around

1876. Thecouple had approximately eleven children together. Both Michale and

Celia diedin 1920, in Sligo, Kilglass parish. Celia was herself born in Sligo

around1850-52.

Whatever you find would be extremely appreciated. Thank you in

advance, andenjoy your time in Ireland!

Sean Crean <sfcrean@yahoo.com> on 08/08/2000 07:38:59 AM

To: IRL-SLIGO-L@rootsweb.com

cc: (bcc: Kevin J. Crean/CPD/NYN/HUD)

Subject: Re: [IRL-SLIGO] Need birth record copy from Sligo

MaryAnn,

Would it be too much trouble if you could check on one

more? My ggrandfather Patrick Crean was born in Sligo

1849-1850 (died in 1918 with the ages of 68 & 69

reported on two different documents). I believe his

father was James Crean. But I'm looking to confirm.

Patrick married Elizabeth Skeffington around 1868 -

70. Their first daughter Mary was born in 1870. If

they have the marriage & or birth certificate of

Patrick that would be a big help.

Thank you.Sean Crean

 

From: Fatarm@aol.com |   Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2000 13:19:22 EDT

Subject: Re: [CRYAN] Cryan's bar To: caoimhghin@yahoo.com

I'm not sure why it's so quiet. There remains about 70 or so

subscribers, about a third to a half of whom are cryan researchers in particular.

There have been some crean postings and crehan lately, but no real response,

at least through the list, to the posters. My 5 year old starts school in

a few weeks, maybe then I'll have a chance to hit a library (the baby is a

sleepy little guy) and post a list of names from some resource. I have to

figure out what libraries are good around here, which university libraries i

might be able to get access to, etc. I may have lived in DC for 18 months

now, but I still haven't a clue beyond the basics. A neighbor works for the

Library of Congress, however, and maybe she can advise re: area libraries --

she's a technology librarian, but she should know something that could help me.

I'm also going to try again with the cemetery where my Ggrandmother was

buried, to see what info I can get there. I'll keep you posted, and hope

you'll do the same, LeslieFrom:

 

Fatarm@aol.com | 

Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2000 13:35:51 EDT

Subject: [CRYAN] Fwd: [IRL-SLIGO] Re:first and second cousins

To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Caoimhghin, I find this explanation easiest. It is hard to keep

straight, though, isn't it? Thank goodness at family reunions you can just call

everyone 'cousin' and not have to remember their number and removal!!!

-Leslie

Reply-to: "Jim McDonald" <culrua@iol.ie>

From: "Jim McDonald" <culrua@iol.ie> | 

Subject: Re: [IRL-SLIGO] Notice 1880

Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2000 20:47:55 +0100

To: IRL-SLIGO-L@rootsweb.com

Sean,Sligo was known unofficially as "Little Belfast" and there were stong

linksbetween the two places. Nothing on Patrick but Mary left on the

'Linden'below.

'Linden' 25 August 1849 sailing out of the Port of Sligo. Destination

Americas.

CREAN, Mary. a40. Matron.

Jim McDonald

culrua@iol.ie

----- Original Message -----

From: "Sean Crean" <sfcrean@yahoo.com>

To: <IRL-SLIGO-L@rootsweb.com>

Sent: Monday, August 07, 2000 1:41 PM

Subject: Re: [IRL-SLIGO] Notice 1880

> Jim,

>> Your source of information is astounding. Thanks for

> helping a lot of researchers. I find this notice very

> interesting. My ggrandfather Patrick Crean and his

> brother left Sligo around this time for Belfast where

> they developed some patents and became very wealthy.

> I'm wondering if this situation wasn't the impetus for

> them to leave....

>> Sean Crean

 

Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 20:23:21 -0700 (PDT)

From: Colin Crehan <colin_crehan@yahoo.com> | 

Subject: [IRL-SLIGO] Crehan - O'Crean Pedigree

To: IRL-SLIGO-L@rootsweb.com

Hello all!

I just signed up to the Sligo Listing today, after

hearing that there was a discussion of O'Crean (what

did I miss?).I just started to investigate the CREHAN name about a

month ago.I was wondering ... is CREAN truly 2 or 3 similar

surnames? Are they related?

Ó Croidheáin -O'Crean -Donegal/Sligo - Cenel Eoghain

Ó Creacháin - Crehan - Mayo - the Uí Fiachrach

Ó Criocháin - Crehan or Creighton - Tyrone- Oriel sept

Any information on the Crean/Crehan name would be

appreciated!

Here is a CREAN Pedigree compilation that I pieced

together from various sources (O'Hart, O'Clery,

O'Ferral, etc.). As I have just begun ... none of

this has been verified yet. It is meant to bring all

CREAN surnames back to a common ancestor.

This may come accross badly due to artificially

inserted line breaks. Simply copy the text into

Notepad (or whatever), and delete the artificial

breaks. Sorry :-(

=============

Eochaidh

Muigh-Meadhoin

(High King

Eochaidh XII) +365

Mong Fionn

Carthan Cais Dubh (or Cariona)

daughter of the

daughter of the

King of Connacht

Celtic King of Briton

_________________________________________|

|

| | | |

|

Brian Ailill Fiachu Fergus

Niall Mor

(Fiachra

'of the Nine Hostages'

Folt-leathan;

(O'Neil)

Uí Fiachrach)

+405

___________________|_____

|______________________________________________________________

| |

| | | | |

| |

Amhailgadh Dathi

Eoghain Laoghaire Eanna Maine Cairbre

Conal Conal

(2nd Christian King +428

(Owen; +465; a

Cremthainn Gulban

of Connaught) |

quo Cenel Eoghainn)

_________________________|___________________

|_______________________________________________________________

| | | |

| | |

| |

Eocha Breac Olioll Molt Fiachra Ealg

Amhailgadh Muiredaigh Ailill Fergus

Feilim Eochaidh

+478 (129th Monarch of (O'Dowd) (Forbes

& +480 (Muinntear (O Conchubhair (O

Duibhdhiorma) Binnigh

| Ireland) +478

MacFirbis) | Cheallaigh) of Magh

Ith) MacDermott- (O'Garvey;

|

| O'Kelly O'Connor

O'Diorma Cineal

|

| Derry Co. Cinel Fearghusa

mBinnigh)

|

|_______________________________________________

|

| | |

|

Eoghan

Muircheartach Feradaigh Tigernach

Moein/Maon/Mongan/Maine?

|_____________

(Mac Earca) | (Cunningham,

(O'Crean, O'Crodden

| |

High King Mac Cathmaoil) O'Hosey,

O'Gormley, O'Luinigh

| |

+527 Mac Cawell;Tyrone Tierney)

O'Mulcerby;

| |

O'Brollaghan;Donegal

a quo Cenel Moain)

| |

_______________________________________________|

| |

|

Conall Conn Berneach (Moghan)

Colmain

|

|

Gobhneann

Faelain

|

|

Cobthach

Edalaigh

|____________________

|

| |

|

Columhan Aodh

Tendalaigh (Scralach)

(Colman; 10th (Cahill, of

|

Christian King Connaught)

|

of Connaught)

|

|_______________________

|

| |

|

Guaire Aidhne Hugh

Ferdalaigh (Crean ? A quo O'Crean of Mayo &

Sligo)

(12th Christian king;

|

a quo O'Guaire)

Gairmlegaigh

+655

|______________________

|

| |

|

Dalbaigh (Donal ?) Cridhegen

|

| (O Croidheain or

O'Crean of Tyrone)

|

Crean oge (?)

|

|

>From Guaire are descended the chief septs

of the Uí Fiachrach Aidhne. Including

O'Creachain Crehan, Greghan, Gehan, Graham, O'Criadhen

Creedan

============

Regards,

- Colin Crehan

colin_crehan@yahoo.com

From: "Kevin J. Crean" <Kevin_J._Crean@HUD.GOV> | 

Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 09:02:53 -0400

Subject: Re: [IRL-SLIGO] O'Crean

To: IRL-SLIGO-L@rootsweb.com

Colin:Attached is one of the more informative e:mails regarding the Crean

name thatyou may have missed.

And "thank you" to Jim McDonald. I have been reading your numerous

responses toquestions posed by other listers and am always impressed by the breadth

anddepth of your knowledge and ready access to sources.

 

---------------------- Forwarded by Kevin J. Crean/CPD/NYN/HUD on

08/10/2000

09:09 AM ---------------------------

"Jim McDonald" <culrua@iol.ie> on 08/04/2000 09:52:43 PM

Please respond to "Jim McDonald" <culrua@iol.ie>

To: IRL-SLIGO-L@rootsweb.com

cc: (bcc: Kevin J. Crean/CPD/NYN/HUD)

Subject: Re: [IRL-SLIGO] O'Crean

Paul,

A few years ago a namesake of yours was commissioned to research and

publisha history of enterprises in Sligo. I don't know what's happened to it

buthopefully it will emerge and throw some light on the subject. The

question

you pose is an interesting one and it is strange that there is so

little on

this family and only a few of the name in Sligo. I count 3 in the phone

book

although there are 42 in neighbouring counties. There are also 14

CREANES

and 59 CREHANS, again almost all in other counties.

O'Rorke (1889) from whom I quoted gives an account of the CREAN family

butdoesn't make us any the wiser on what happened to them as merchants.

Originally from Tirconnell they settled in Sligo at the end of the

fifteenthcentury. The first recorded is Cormac O'CRAIAN d1506, buried with his

wifeNanangasa. The Four Masters record, under the year 1572, the death of

HenryO'CREAN. O'Rorke says the "O'CREANS were not long in Sligo when they

beganto invest money in land... Andrew O'CREAN (d1641) ...possessed not only

Hazelwood and much of the parishes of Carbury and St. John... but

considerable stretches of land in Leyney, Tireagh, and Coolavin, as

well asthe abbey of Ballindoon, in the barony of Tirerrill." Andrew CREAN,

prior ofSligo became Bishop of Elphin while John CREAN survived the attempt to

charge him with the "massacre of 1641". Writing on the parish of

KilmacteigeO'Rorke says, "under the Cromwellian Settlement, the O'HARAS, the

O'HIGGINS,the O'CREANS, and the MacSWYNES disappeared.

This is probably well known to you and CREAN searchers but thought I

wouldpost it for general interest. The CREAN presence in Mayo, Roscommon

andGalway does suggest a movement southwards for the main group of the

family.This doesn't answer the question of course.

Jim McDonald

culrua@iol.ie

----- Original Message -----

From: "Paul Burns" <pjburns@prodigy.net>

To: "Jim McDonald" <culrua@iol.ie>

Cc: <IRL-SLIGO-L@rootsweb.com>

Sent: Friday, August 04, 2000 3:00 PM

Subject: Re: [IRL-SLIGO] O'Crean

> Jim,

> As you undoubtedly know, Wood-Martin has surprising little to say

about the> Crean family other than that they were the merchant princes of Sligo

forseveral> centuries. Mary O'Dowd provides much more info on them in her "Power

Politics &> Land: Sligo 1568-1688." She said Roger Jones, the Protestant,

gainedfrom the> marriage of Elicia Jones (whom she said was probably his niece) to

Roebuck> Crean, calling the match "profitable and shrewd" and "a wise move to

allywith> them rather than try to establish a rival business" of importing and

exporting.

> What happened to the merchant family of Creans? It seemed to have

survived> the Cromwellian confiscations. Could it have been one of Sligo's many

plagues or> lack of male heirs?

> Paul Burns

==============================

Please respond to "Jim McDonald" <culrua@iol.ie>

book

although there are 42 in neighbouring counties. There are also 14

CREANES

and 59 CREHANS, again almost all in other counties.

O'Rorke (1889) from whom I quoted gives an account of the CREAN family

but

doesn't make us any the wiser on what happened to them as merchants.

Originally from Tirconnell they settled in Sligo at the end of the

fifteenth

century. The first recorded is Cormac O'CRAIAN d1506, buried with his

wife

Nanangasa. The Four Masters record, under the year 1572, the death of

Henry

O'CREAN. O'Rorke says the "O'CREANS were not long in Sligo when they

began

to invest money in land... Andrew O'CREAN (d1641) ...possessed not only

Hazelwood and much of the parishes of Carbury and St. John... but

considerable stretches of land in Leyney, Tireagh, and Coolavin, as

well as

the abbey of Ballindoon, in the barony of Tirerrill." Andrew CREAN,

prior of

Sligo became Bishop of Elphin while John CREAN survived the attempt to

charge him with the "massacre of 1641". Writing on the parish of

Kilmacteige

O'Rorke says, "under the Cromwellian Settlement, the O'HARAS, the

O'HIGGINS,

the O'CREANS, and the MacSWYNES disappeared.

This is probably well known to you and CREAN searchers but thought I

wouldpost it for general interest. The CREAN presence in Mayo, Roscommon

andGalway does suggest a movement southwards for the main group of the

family.This doesn't answer the question of course.

Jim McDonald

culrua@iol.ie

 

----- Original Message -----

From: "Paul Burns" <pjburns@prodigy.net>

To: "Jim McDonald" <culrua@iol.ie>

Cc: <IRL-SLIGO-L@rootsweb.com>

Sent: Friday, August 04, 2000 3:00 PM

Subject: Re: [IRL-SLIGO] O'Crean

 

> Jim,

> As you undoubtedly know, Wood-Martin has surprising little to say

about the

> Crean family other than that they were the merchant princes of Sligo

for

several

> centuries. Mary O'Dowd provides much more info on them in her "Power

Politics &

> Land: Sligo 1568-1688." She said Roger Jones, the Protestant,

gained

from the

> marriage of Elicia Jones (whom she said was probably his niece) to

Roebuck

> Crean, calling the match "profitable and shrewd" and "a wise move to

ally

with

> them rather than try to establish a rival business" of importing and

exporting.

> What happened to the merchant family of Creans? It seemed to have

survived

> the Cromwellian confiscations. Could it have been one of Sligo's many

plagues or

> lack of male heirs?Paul Burns

Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 13:24:25 -0400 caoimhghin@yahoo.com

From: Ali Crehan <alison_crehan@yahoo.com> | 

Subject: Your wonderful website!

Caoimhghin -

just a quick note to let you know what a fantastic resource your

website has been for me thus far in my research on the Crehans! Thank

you for all thew work you have put into it!

Cheers,Ali

Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 13:44:33 -0700 (PDT)

From: Colin Crehan <colin_crehan@yahoo.com> | 

Subject: [CRYAN] Colin Crehan's people To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Colin Crehan's people.

Since you would be interested in my CREHAN ancestors,

here is the line of Crehan men, their siblings, and

their siblings' decendents (what little I know).

I am Colin (1969),

son of Donald (1947),

son of Michael (1898),

son of James (*),

son of John,

son of James/John.

*Since my grandfather was the 10th of 10 children, I'd

guess that my ggrandfather, James, was born in the

1850's or so. I'm disappointed that the record trails

off so quickly.

My grandfather mentioned to my father that he thought

his people came to Ballinasloe, Co. Galway from Co.

Caven.

Does anyone know of CREHANs from Co Galway or Co

Caven?Let me know if you can tie into this tree!

My convention F = Father; FF = Father's Father; etc.

Note: all dates are in American (mm/dd/yyyy) format.

______________

Generation 1: * Me - Colin Michael Belsito Crehan

(Bethesda, MD, USA)

*1 Colin Michael Belsito Crehan (12/27/1969)

--Married--[Amy Elizabeth Belsito (8/18/1973)]

2 Ann Mary Crehan (7/30/1974)

_______________

Generation 2: *F - Donald Thomas Crehan

(New York City, USA)

1 Mary Julia Crehan (8/29/1941 - )

--Divorce--[George Lidicker]

1 Eric Crehan Lidicker (8/2/1968 - )

--Married--[Dana Andrews]

2 Margaret Frances Crehan (10/22/1942 - )

--Married--[Salvatore Umana]

*3 Donald Thomas Crehan (3/19/1947 - )

--Married--[Bridget Bernadette Dougherty

(8/5/1942 - )(Ballycastle, Mayo, Ire)]

_______________

Generation 3: *FF - Michael Crehan

(Ballinasloe, Galway, Ire)

1 Mary Crehan (? - ?) --Married--[Nolan]

NJ,USA

1 Marty Nolan --Married--[?]

x Big Family

2 Jimmy Nolan --Divorce--[?]

3 Danny Nolan

4 Marie Nolan

5 Dorothy Nolan

6 Katherine Nolan --Married--[?]

a Peter (Priest)

2 Bridget Crehan (? - ?) --Married--[Tom Nolan]

1 Tommy Nolan

2 Margaret Nolan --Married--[Colozze]

3 Katherine --Married--[Nagel]

a Joan Nagel --Married--[Palmer]

b Patsie

4 Pat (Did not marry)

3 John Crehan (? - ?) --Married--[Mildred]

Goose Creek,NC,USA

a Jimmy Crehan

b Jeannie Crehan

(Bloomfield - Glen Burnie, MD,USA)

c John Crehan

(B17 Tail Gunner in WWII - Shot Down

over Marshall Islands - 7th Air Force)

4 Katherine Crehan(? - 4/29/1970) (No Children)

5 Julia Crehan (? - ?) Died age 10

6 Patrick Crehan (? - ?) Died as baby

7 James Crehan Jr. (? - ?) Died age 17

8 Thomas Crehan (? - 5/19/1974) (No Children)

9 Laurence Crehan (? - ?)--Married--[Rose Donnelly]

a Jimmy Crehan (? - ?) --Married--[Mary]

a girl

b boy

c boy

b Martha Crehan (? - ?)--Married--[?]

a Mary Rose

b Katherine

c boy

d boy

*10 Michael Crehan (8/15 or 18/1898 - 12/25/1991)

--Married--[Mary Naughton (1904? - 1995)

(Ballina, Galway, Ire)]

_______________

Generation 4: *FFF - James Crehan

(Ballinasloe, Galway, Ire ?)

*a James Crehan (? - ?)

--Married-- [Mary Killilea(? - ?)]

b Patrick Crehan

c girl Crehan (? - ?)---Widow---[Hopkins]

? --Married--[ Hannon]

(on Titanic)

d Mary Crehan (? - ?)--Married--[Mooler]

--------------------------

Generation 5: *FFFF - John Crehan

* John Crehan (? - ?)

--Married--[ McDonald (? - ?)]

--------------------------

Generation 6: *FFFFF - John/James Crehan

* John or James Crehan (? - ?)

================================================

Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 14:04:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Colin Crehan <colin_crehan@yahoo.com> |   Subject: [CRYAN] Jeanne Vitale > Michael Crehan

To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Fatarm@aol.com posted the following note on Sept. 8,

1998:

Another poster of names! Yeah!:

The Crehan's I have are my maternal grandmother's

family, and the spelling hasbeen consistant for a

while. I've seen it on my line spelled Creghan

too.These are the names I have.Michael Crehan b 1855

Ballybane, Co. Galway married--Catherine Kinsella b

1855

Ballybane, Co. Galwaychildren: :Matthew Bernard Daniel

Lawrence Michael Winifred Ellen DeliaJamesCatherine

Margaret Bernard was mygreat-grandfather. He came to the US in 1909, and got

his papers in 1919. My grandmother doesn't know very

much else, she went to Ireland in the late 70's and

met some family, but has since lost touch. Thanks

again, please let me know if anything sounds familiar.

Best,Jeanne Vitale

=====

Did Jeanne post to the list? If not, where did this

post originate?

Jeanne,

I don't know where Ballybane, Co. Galway is ... but,

when I visited Galway in 1985, I visited with a

relative. An old woman named "Winnie" somewhere near

Ballinasloe, Co. Galway (I can find out where).

1) I wonder if your Winifred Crehan is my Winnie

Crehan.

2) Michael Crehan (b 1855) would be about the same age

as my ggrandfather, James. I don't know James'

siblings. Do you know Michael's siblings?

Regards,

- Colin Crehan

From: "Janet Crawford" <reojan@hotmail.com> | 

Subject: Re: [IRL-SLIGO] Book on the Shelf/Enniscoe Pratts

Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 10:10:22 PDT

To: IRL-SLIGO-L@rootsweb.com

----Original Message Follows----Jim McDonald wrote:

> She notes that Co. Sligo was not included in the Cromwellian

transplantation > of the 1650s. It was for Cromwell's soldiers.

Can someone tell me if there is NO information about the evictees and

the location of the land and the persons taking over the land in the Down's

Survey for county Sligo? Am I reading this correctly. I want to track a

Donnell Quillinan who was evicted by Cromwell. Since I have been able

to find this, there must be some info someplace. Can anyone help me? Janet

Crawford, Seattle

Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 15:10:46 -0400 From:

Paul Burns <pjburns@prodigy.net> | 

Subject: Re: [IRL-SLIGO] Book on the Shelf/Enniscoe Pratts

To: IRL-SLIGO-L@rootsweb.com

Janet,

Just what are you looking for? The Downs Survey and Book of Survey

andDistribution provided the name of the former proprietor, and acreage

andparish, and the name of the recipient--per a portion of it in an

appendix toWood-Martin's History of Sligo. But I don't know if the entire Downs

Surveysurvived the 1922 four Courts fire.

I do recall spending many days in the National Library a decade or

so agodigging out info on land granted to a particular Cromwellian soldier.

Itain't easy, but much more has survived than most people realize.

Paul

Janet Crawford wrote:

> ----Original Message Follows----Jim McDonald wrote:

> >> > She notes that Co. Sligo was not included in the Cromwellian

> transplantation> > of the 1650s. It was for Cromwell's soldiers.

>> Can someone tell me if there is NO information about the evictees and

the> location of the land and the persons taking over the land in the

Down's> Survey for county Sligo? Am I reading this correctly. I want to track

a> Donnell Quillinan who was evicted by Cromwell. Since I have been able

to> find this, there must be some info someplace. Can anyone help me?

JanetCrawford, Seattle

Reply-to: "Jim McDonald" <culrua@iol.ie> From:

"Jim McDonald" <culrua@iol.ie> | 

Subject: Re: [IRL-SLIGO] Book on Sligo Date:

Sat, 12 Aug 2000 21:18:29 +0100 To: IRL-SLIGO-L@rootsweb.com

Paul,It's available from the Booknest and the publishers are at www.iap.ie

Thebook is based on a theses submitted for an M.A. in Local History.

Anotherbook in the series is on P.A. McHUGH proprietor of the Sligo Champion

andMember of Parliament for Sligo.

I know you have a copy Paul but anyone wishing to get O'DOWD, M (1991)

'Power, politics and land: Early Modern Sligo 1568-1688'. Belfast: The

Institute of Irish Studies. The Queen's University of Belfast, should

do soas the price has fallen from £20+ to £18 and is now £10 in HB (Keohan's

Sligo). Plenty of families here: CREAN, JONES, MacDERMOT, MacDONAGH,

MAGUIRE, HART, HARRISON, O'HARA, O'HIGGINS, and more.

Regards,

Jim

----- Original Message -----

From: "Paul Burns" <pjburns@prodigy.net>

To: "Jim McDonald" <culrua@iol.ie>

Cc: <IRL-SLIGO-L@rootsweb.com>

Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2000 7:57 PM

Subject: Re: [IRL-SLIGO] Book on Sligo

> Jim,> Thanks for the book review. I have ordered Miariam Moffitt's book

from> Amazon.com at US$10.50. Delivery will take 4-6 weeks, which I think

meansit

> will be coming from over your way. Barnes & Noble lists the book but

sayst> does not have it in stock.

> I hope you will let us all know about any new publications that

concern> Sligo. Joe McGowna will be publishing one soon, and I am hoping to

see areprint> of "Down Gallows Hill."

> Paul Burns

From: Fatarm@aol.com |   Date:

Sat, 12 Aug 2000 22:49:37 EDT Subject: [CRYAN] Request for Crehan help

To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

This past week two Crehans on our list have asked for help to connect

to other Crehan, Creahan, etc. researchers. In particular, we seem to be

missing the company of Theresa Mary, formerly amethyst@inch.com. Are

you now subscribed under a new name? Email addressed to this address has been

returned. There may be a possible connection.

Please respond to this message through the list, in case there are

other Crehan researchers waiting to connect.

From: Fatarm@aol.com |   Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 22:51:20 EDT

Subject: Re: [CRYAN] Colin Crehan's people

To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Thanks for posting such a great list of people -- hopefully we'll find

that connection!

From: Fatarm@aol.com |   Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 23:04:43 EDT

Subject: [CRYAN] Query on early Creans To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Colin, I received your note and have to share:

I was pouring over the CRYAN archives, and I found a

comment that (I believe) you wrote:

"Are you certain you want to claim the notorious

Crean's? I'm not so certain I'd enjoy boasting of an

ancestor taking payouts from Henry VIII !"

But I didn't see anything else in the archive.

To what incident/ancestor or you referring?

Sounds like juicy gossip ...

Regards,

- Colin Crehan

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

Colin, have you been pouring over those archives or what? I better

start paying attention to what I write!

Yes, one of the Creans was awarded (money, I believe) from Henry VIII's

coffers for some service performed. My memory is rusty. I can't even

remember if we know what the service was. Was this the catching of the

fugitive thing? Caoimhghin, help? I could look it up if I were

organized, or if it were late September (things are a little hectic now) ... but

someone on this list will remember better than I do, hopefully ... otherwise,

you'll have to wait till September! -Leslie

From: Fatarm@aol.com | 

Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 23:15:20 EDT

Subject: Fwd: [IRL-SLIGO] Crehan - O'Crean Pedigree

To: caoimhghin@yahoo.com

Did you see this? Thought it might interest you ... I honestly don't

have time but to glance at it at the moment. Hope all's well with you --

Leslie- - - - - - - - - - - - - -

From SCK32160@aol.com | 

Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 23:27:51 EDT

Subject: [CRYAN] Connections to Crean

To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Hi List,

I am trying to gather sibling info to my GGGrandmother Catherine Crean

born in Tawnalaughta(born abt. 1840?). She married William Farris of

Culleens in 1866 and they moved to Cooga and raised their family. If anyone on the

list has a William and Catherine Farris as Baptismal sponsors or if you see

any Catherine Crean connecting with your family could you inform me. If

anyone has an Austin Crean connected to their family I would be interested as

he was my Catherine's brother.

Thanks, Chris

Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2000 10:59:04 -0700 From: Joanne H Harrison <tthomson@direct.ca> |   Subject: [IRL-SLIGO] Sligo genealogy To: IRL-SLIGO-L@rootsweb.com

Hi there,

I found an interesting and informative site:

http://sligo.local.ie/genealogy/

Joanne

 

Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2000 19:02:03 +0000 From: Patrick Hunt <pathunt@indigo.ie> |   Subject: [CRYAN] Master Thomas Cryan To:

CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Hello all you Cryan folks out there in Cyberspace,

I am trying to trace the life of Thomas Cryan of Falleens,

Monasteraden,Co Sligo. He was the school principal and driving force behind a school

inTownabrack which became known as THE COLLEGE IN THE BOG. It earned this

sobriquet because of Master Cryan's fame for securing scholarships for

hispupils.

I don't know when or where he was born but he died in 1905 of TB and

isburied in Monasteraden churchyard. He had two sons that I know of,

Williamand Thomas, both of whom I discovered recently enjoyed second level

education at Clongowes Wood College (Jesuit) in Clane, Co Kildare. The

boyswere students there in the 1890s.

Thomas Cryan's wife's maiden name was Casey, I think.

I also understand that one of the boys was killed in a motor cycle

accident in Dublin in the 1920s or 1930s. I heard somewhere that a

daughterof his was US correspondent for the Times of London.

My personal interest in Thomas Cryan is that he was the man

responsiblefor educating my grandmother (Margaret Hannan from Kilfree) and her

siblings. He was a remarkable man and does not deserve to have his life

andwork vanish from the face of the earth.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Patrick (Pat) Hunt

pathunt@indigo.ie

Reply-to: "FamSpack" < > From: "FamSpack" < > |   Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 00:42:26 +0100

Subject: [CRYAN] FARRIS/CREAN To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

I have found an Honor FARRIS born 25 Jan 1870 with parents William

FARRISand Carherine CREAN in Easky Co Sligo civil registration, if that is

anyhelp.EveDate:

#

Mon, 14 Aug 2000 08:03:33 -0400 From: Paul Burns <pjburns@prodigy.net> | 

Subject: [IRL-SLIGO] Downs Surveys

To: IRL-SLIGO-L@rootsweb.com

Charlie Brown asked another question about the Downs Survey, so I

dug intomy Margaret Falley's "Irish and Scotch-Irish Ancestral Research," which

still isthe best genealogy tome available despite its age (1968).

According to Falley, the Down Survey (called "down" because info

was noteddown) was conducted in 1654-59 by Dr. William Petty who had been

charged withmapping the forfeited lands in 22 counties after the Cromwellian

victory. Thesurvey contained maps, names of forfeiting owners, locations and

acreage,locations of castles, towns, and forts. Fortunately four copies were

madebecause part of one set was lost in a 1711 fire, the rest of that set

in the 1922fire, and another set was captured by the French in 1707 when en route

fromDublin to London (can be seen in the Bibliotheque Nacionale in Paris).

A thirdset is in the possess of Petty's descendants, and the fourth was

acquired by thegovernment in 1837 and now is in the National Archives.

What I saw years ago when I was researching a Cromwellian family

was the"Books of Survey and Distribution," derived from the Down Survey and

othersources. This contains the names of those who received the land--mostly

Cromwellian soldiers--as well as those who lost it. Volume 14 of this

coversLeitrim, Sligo and part of Mayo. A copy of the Sligo portion is

available in theSligo County Library.

Paul Burns wrote:

> Janet,> Just what are you looking for? The Downs Survey and Book of

Survey and> Distribution provided the name of the former proprietor, and acreage

and> parish, and the name of the recipient--per a portion of it in an

appendix to> Wood-Martin's History of Sligo. But I don't know if the entire Downs

Survey> survived the 1922 four Courts fire.

> I do recall spending many days in the National Library a decade

or so ago> digging out info on land granted to a particular Cromwellian soldier.

It> ain't easy, but much more has survived than most people realize.

> Paul>

> Janet Crawford wrote:

>> > ----Original Message Follows----Jim McDonald wrote:

> > > She notes that Co. Sligo was not included in the Cromwellian

> > transplantation> > > of the 1650s. It was for Cromwell's soldiers.

> >> > Can someone tell me if there is NO information about the evictees

and the> > location of the land and the persons taking over the land in the

Down's> > Survey for county Sligo? Am I reading this correctly. I want to

track a> > Donnell Quillinan who was evicted by Cromwell. Since I have been

able to> > find this, there must be some info someplace. Can anyone help me?

Janet> > Crawford, Seattle

From: "Kevin J. Crean" <Kevin_J._Crean@HUD.GOV> | 

Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 08:48:57 -0400

Subject: Re: [IRL-SLIGO] Sligo genealogy

To: IRL-SLIGO-L@rootsweb.com

Dear Jane:We traded e:mails recently about our common Bruen name. I recalled

that while Iwas unable to locate my grandmother in the 1901 Irish Census (I believe

herfamily was in England at the time) I did find another Bruen family

living inTawnalaughta, in Kilglass parish. As I wrote to a cousin:

B4 - Michael & Celia Browne - I think this may be a relation on my

grandmother

?sside. Anthony Crean married Theresa Bruen. Although I am not able to

=locate acopy of my grandmother? birth or baptismal certificates (I?m sure my

da=d hasthem) I recall that her parents were named Brown or Browne while she

wa=s aBruen. I do know that the prayer card for her mother identifies her

as= JaneBrowne. What struck me when I came across this page is that while the

=household

members are listed as Michael, Celia, Theresa, and Katie Browne the

hea=d of thefamily signed the form ?Michael Bruen.?

The B4 refers to the number on the census form. My Theresa had at

leas=t onesibling, a brother, named James Henry Bruen. Her parents were Henry

Br=own andthe former Jane McDermott.

-- Kevin

Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 07:53:38 -0700 (PDT)

From: Colin Crehan <colin_crehan@yahoo.com> | 

Subject: Fwd: Re: [CRYAN] Colin Crehan's people

To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Kerry,My family came from Newbridge, Ballinasloe, County

Galway (sold the house 20 years ago). And my

Grandfather told me that only two Crehan families were

from that area.

So, there's a good chance that there may be a

connection ... hopefully we can find it! I have not

found an Owen or Bernard in my tree yet ... Hopefully

that will help your search ... finding folks named

James,John, Thomas, and Patrick is a little too easy

... :-)Do you know of any family still in Ballinasloe?

Ireland?

To the folks living in Ireland: Are there any

Crehan's still living in Newbridge, Ballinasloe? I

remember meeting a Jimmy Crehan there, when I was a

kid.BTW, if you didn't already know, the name "Owen" is at

the root of the Crehan name. When you see that Crehan

(Ó Croidheáin) if a minor sept of the Cenel Eoghain

(Owen). That means that we are from Owen's tribe.

County Tyrone - Tir Owen - Land of Owen.

Inishowen - Owen's Island

(see the tree that I sent out previously)Regards, - Colin

From: Kmcrehan@aol.com

Message-ID: <28.940ee43.26c5eb21@aol.com>

Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 19:49:53 EDT

Subject: Re: [CRYAN] Colin Crehan's people

Hello Colin and David!, I am a Crehan! My Crehan's came from

Woodbrook/ Newbridge, Ballinasloe, County Galway. Here is my family line:

Owen Crehan (1830-??)m Evelyn or Ellen Mulligan

John Crehan (1859-1930) m Mary McGrath

Owen Crehan (1894-1978)m Marguerite Dunn

Joseph Crehan (1938- ) m Sheila Anderson

ME Kerry Crehan (1966- ) m James McCauley

Owen and Evelyn's Children: Mark, Mary, Michael, John*, and Thomas

John and Thomas are the only ones who came to the states. Thomas never

married to my knowledge. John was married to Mary McGrath in Anderson

Indiana. Their brother Mark Crehan married Celia Crehan (she was a

crehan!) and their children were Mary, Owen, Ellen, Bernard, and Michael.

I have been told that my great grandfather came to the states with a

first cousin named Bernard Crehan. Bernard would be the child of the brother

of my GG grandfather Owen Crehan. I can not find any siblings of Owen.

Any of this sound like it could fit into your trees??

Reply-to: "Jim McDonald" <culrua@iol.ie>

From: "Jim McDonald" <culrua@iol.ie> | 

Subject: Re: [IRL-SLIGO] Sligo genealogy Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 19:11:28 +0100

To: IRL-SLIGO-L@rootsweb.com

Hi Jane,

You have to buy the book but it's the best and available.

I think you know that there is no Bruen listed for Drumcliff. Most of

yoursseem to be in Rosses Point and if you haven't got them I can pass on

what Ihave.Some Bruens from the other side of the bay:

St Molaise's Graveyard Kilglass:

Mrs. Michael BRUEN, Townalaughta, died Jan. 3. 1918, aged 72. Her

husbandMichael, died May 21. 1946, aged 93. M(?) CREGG, died March 31. 1928,

aged8.

Enniscroane Graveyard

1. Henry BRUEN, Ballyogan, died 12 Aug. 1987, aged 88. His wife Celia

died

10 Dec. 1987, aged 79.

2. Michael CREAN & Celia BRUEN (no dates).

Good luck with your search,

Jim McDonaldculrua@iol.ie

> Thank you Jim,

>> I very much appreciate your fascinating reply.

> No I hadn't looked in MacLysaght's "Surnames of Ireland".Where would

Ifind> this?> I had only looked on the Sligo website and I am grateful to you for

telling> me about the origin of "my" names.

> I had heard, from Bruen cousins in Rosses Point that there was once a

Bishop> Brone in> early times whose ruined church was Killaspugbrone (near Sligo

airport)> where St. Patrick is said to have broken his tooth..

> Ah there are some good tales from Ireland.> All the best to you,> Jane Kelly

Kevin,You might have this already and sorry to see that Michael and Celia

have nodates.Enniscroane Graveyard

1. Michael CREAN & Celia BRUEN (no dates).

St Molaise's Graveyard Kilglass:

1. Michael CREAN, Townalaughta, Cullens, born 1842 died 1923.

Daughter-in-law Anna H. CONMY (nee CREAN) born 6 Feb. 1888, died 11

April1923. His wife Mary CONMY (nee CONMY) late of Stokan, Castleconnor born

1842died 3 Aug 1925. (The dates and relationships are as given but do they

makesence?)

Killanley New Graveyard

1. Edward Crean, died 2 Jan 1932. His wife Mary died 30 March 1945.

Theirson Edward, died 29 July 1956.

2. Mary Crean, Carrowcarden, died 2 Jan. 1971.

Jim McDonaldCulrua@iol.ie

----- Original Message -----

From: "Kevin J. Crean" <Kevin_J._Crean@HUD.GOV>

To: <IRL-SLIGO-L@rootsweb.com>

Sent: Monday, August 14, 2000 2:23 PM

Subject: Re: [IRL-SLIGO] Need birth record copy from Sligo

> Dear MaryAnn,> Thank you so much for the advice. Sounds like I have much work to

do. Idon't> know how long either Michael or Celia were in Kilglass so I don't

knowexactly> where to begin my search but I guess I can start there and fan out.

I had> planned to look through the register of births, marriages and deaths

at mylocal> FHC. Are you suggesting that this will be a blind alley? I am

relatively> certain that both of my great-grandparents died in 1920 and I found

what I> believe to be one of them listed on some film I reviewed. I didn't

orderit> yet, figuring I would group several requests together. I suppose I

canalso> track down their marriage certificate this way, if as you wrote, the

records go> back to 1864.

>> -- Kevin

>> MAHorn25@aol.com on 08/13/2000 10:26:13 PM

> To: Kevin J. Crean/CPD/NYN/HUD@HUD

> cc:> Subject: Re: [IRL-SLIGO] Need birth record copy from Sligo

>> Hello Kevin,

> The office for civil registration here in Sligo has no facilities to

doany kind> of searching on your own. The civil registration only goes back as

far as1864> and then it's spotty. There are other sources but you would either

need tofind> a researcher here or make a trip on your own to find the things you

arelooking

> for. I would suggest that you start with the parish records of

Kilglass.The

> records there go back to 1825. You may find Michael's birth or his

marriage to> Celia. I doubt you'll find both unless they were both from Kilglass,

couples> were almost always married in the church of the bride. In that case

youwill> have hit paydirt having them both from the same parish whose records

goback> another generation.

> MaryAnn

 

From: Fatarm@aol.com | 

Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 16:18:32 EDT

Subject: Re: [CRYAN] Master Thomas Cryan

To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Thank you so much for sharing that interesting story about Master

Cryan, Pat. It's always neat to get a slice of history when reading about names,

birthdates, etc. Good luck in your hunt, Leslie

Reply-to: "FamSpack" < >

From: "FamSpack" < > | 

Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 10:08:54 +0100

Subject: [CRYAN] Re Robert CRYAN and family

To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Hi Leslie,

I have added to my collection of CRYAN births marriages and deaths and

sorted them by place . This group seems to stand together and seems to

fitthe information that you gave a long time ago.

Robert CRYAN m 1871 in Galway index no 14.131

Peter b 1871 in Castlebar 4.157

Catherine b 1873 in Galway 4.315

Ellen b 1874 in Ballinrobe 14.54

Robert b 1876 in Ballinrobe 14.48

Mary Frances b 1878(2) in Ballinrobe 4.57

George b 1879(3) in Ballinrobe 4.59 died 1880(2) 4.26

Anne Marrie b 1881(2) in Ballinrobe 4.53

Patrick Joseph b 1883(2) in Ballinrobe 4.49

Thomas b 1885(1) in Newport 4.387

Agnes b 1887(4) in Castlebar 4.91

John Henry b 1890(3) in Castlebar 4.93

I have not as yet checked that the matching code for Robert's marriage

isfor Frances FOX but it looks pretty convincing so far . There are no

othersat this time in Co Galway.

I hope that this is helpful, but if you already have it - ignore.

Happy hunting Eve

Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 16:02:41 -0400 From:

Paul Burns <pjburns@prodigy.net> | 

Subject: [IRL-SLIGO] Kilgallon Photo Store in Sligo

To: IRL-SLIGO-L@rootsweb.com

Late last year, someone asked me to check a photo shop in Sligo to

see if it still exists. I believe the requester had an old photo and

wastrying to date it. After my January visit to Sligo, I reported that

there was no such shop on the street he named.

If (I don't remember) the query concerned the Kilgallon Studio, I

have just finished looking at a booklet entitled "Looking Back at

Sligo's Past: Photographs & Reminiscences of Old Sligo," which contains

about 25 old photos of Sligo buildings and street scenes that came from

the "Kilgallon Collection."

On the last page of this booklet, Mr. Alec Foley said that when

Kilgallon died, his old glass plates were dumped in the marshes. A Mr.

Slater saw them and started bringing them home from his walks a few at

atime. He eventually recovered about 2000 of them, mostly family

portraits. When Mr. Slater died they came into the possession of Mr.

Foley who says that for further information he can be contacted at 16

Markievicz Heights, Sligo, Tel. 071 69484.

 

 

Wed, 16 Aug 2000 13:58:53 -0500 From: "Shelly Crynes" <SCrynes@hillcrest.com> |   To: <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> Subject: Cryan/Crynes Connection

Kevin,

 

I just came across your name as an expert on the Cryan name and its

variants.  I have been trying in vain to locate information on the name

Crynes.  I do know that my husband's great grandfather was born in Durham

County, England and his name was John Crynes (I corresponded with an

elderly woman in England for a while with the surname Cryan but she has

now passed away.  However, before she passed away she sent me some

pictures that look greatly resemble my father-in-law and his father's

family.)  Have you ever come across this surname in connection with Cryan? 

Another family member told me that they believe John was raised by a

woman named Catherine Crynes McCombs and they are not sure who his parents

were but that they were both Irish.  Catherine's husband, Frank

McCombs, was from Scotland and it is told that he was a member of the IRA

which is why they left England.  So many stories, but nothing solid.  If

you are interested, I will send you more specific details with dates,

etcetera.  I am at work now so I don't have all the information with me. 

Any help at all would be appreciated.  Thanks so much!

 

Shelly Crynes

 

Fatarm@aol.com |   Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 10:20:13 EDT Subject: Re: [CRYAN] Re Robert CRYAN and family To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Thank you very much for your help, Eve.  It was very kind of you to put

this

together for me.  It certainly is an interesting collection of names

and

dates.

 

Although the names in most instances match up (the death of an infant

George

wouldn't have been known to his sister Agnes let alone her daughter/my

grandmother very possibly, nor did my Grandmother mention having uncles

"Peter" and "Patrick Joseph"), you have certainly connected quite a few

people for me possibly.  Especially because sibling Mary's middle name

was

Frances, I'm optimistic that you've found me a new location to look

into,

Ballinrobe.  And Thomas was born in Newport, too.  Hmm.  Now I just

have to

figure out where that is!

 

I'm also a little surprised at the marriage date (1871), because Robert

Sr.'s

wife Frances Fox would have been about 18 -- absolutely possible, but I

was

expecting her to be older, I guess (we're pretty sure of her birthdate

in

1853).  The only other potential snafu in the theory that all these

people

are in my family would be that I could have sworn my grandmother said

her

mother Agnes (second youngest in your list) was the second oldest

daughter. 

But you've definitely got the right Agnes, and I'm certain I can claim

John

Henry as mine, too.

 

Can I ask for the source information, too?  Is this from an LDS reel? 

It'd

be neat to go and get a copy -- you know, something concrete to hold.

 

Fortunately, I'm taking the boys to visit my Grandmother tomorrow. 

She'll be

so excited to see this list, I'm sure we'll have a blast pouring over

it this

coming weekend.  Thank you for this gift -- it couldn't be better

timed! 

-Leslie

 

Voltene@aol.com |   Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 07:30:35 EDT Subject: Re: [CRYAN] Request for Crehan help To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

In a message dated 00-08-12 22:53:39 EDT, Fatarm@aol.com wrote:

 

<<

 This past week two Crehans on our list have asked for help to connect

to

 other Crehan, Creahan, etc. researchers.  In particular, we seem to be

 missing the company of Theresa Mary, formerly amethyst@inch.com.  Are

you

now

 subscribed under a new name?  Email addressed to this address has been

 returned.  There may be a possible connection.

 

 Please respond to this message through the list, in case there are

other

 Crehan re >>

 

 

Hello,

 

I would like to get in touch with Theresa Mary, also.

 

About a year and a half ago I did lookups on her Crehans in Lowell.

 

At the time, I did email her what I found,  but I would like to send

her

the copies of the newpaper obits, the World War I  Draft registrations,

cemetery printouts and naturalization and birth records I have for her.

 

A number of months ago, I tried to email her, but I got no response.

 

Theresa Mary, if you are still on the list, please contact me.

 

Karen Murphy

 

Mon, 21 Aug 2000 12:18:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Caoimhghin O Croidheain <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> |   Subject: saved emails To: caoimhghin@yahoo.com

From: Fatarm@aol.com |   Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 10:20:13 EDT Subject: Re: [CRYAN] Re Robert CRYAN and family To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com Add Addresses Thank you very much for your help, Eve. It was very kind of you to put this together for me. It certainly is an interesting collection of names and dates. Although the names in most instances match up (the death of an infant George wouldn't have been known to his sister Agnes let alone her daughter/my grandmother very possibly, nor did my Grandmother mention having uncles "Peter" and "Patrick Joseph"), you have certainly connected quite a few people for me possibly. Especially because sibling Mary's middle name was Frances, I'm optimistic that you've found me a new location to look into, Ballinrobe. And Thomas was born in Newport, too. Hmm. Now I just have to figure out where that is! I'm also a little surprised at the marriage date (1871), because Robert Sr.'s wife Frances Fox would have been about 18 -- absolutely possible, but I was expecting her to be older, I guess (we're pretty sure of her birthdate in 1853). The only other potential snafu in the theory that all these people are in my family would be that I could have sworn my grandmother said her mother Agnes (second youngest in your list) was the second oldest daughter. But you've definitely got the right Agnes, and I'm certain I can claim John Henry as mine, too. Can I ask for the source information, too? Is this from an LDS reel? It'd be neat to go and get a copy -- you know, something concrete to hold. Fortunately, I'm taking the boys to visit my Grandmother tomorrow. She'll be so excited to see this list, I'm sure we'll have a blast pouring over it this coming weekend. Thank you for this gift -- it couldn't be better timed! -Leslie

 

 

 

From: "Ann Chernow" <chernow2@mindspring.com> |   Subject: Re: [IRL-SLIGO] Kilgallon Photo Store in Sligo Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 11:04:50 -0500 To: IRL-SLIGO-L@rootsweb.com Add Addresses Paul, I have some information on the "Kilgallon Photo Store" that appears in a book called SLIGO AND ITS SURROUNDINGS, compiled by Tadhg Kilgannon** (one-time editor of the Sligo Champion), originally published in 1926. My copy is a facsimile reproduction published in November 1988 by Dodd's Antiquarian Books of Ballydoogan, Sligo, with the support of Keohane's on Castle St . This book includes original advertisements that appeared in the 1926 version of this book. Interestingly, I just noticed that the original publisher of this book was "Kilgannon & Sons, Ltd. Printers, Publishers, and Photographers" of Sligo. In addition to all this, it appears that Kilgallon and Sons Ltd. was the proprietor of two movie theaters in Sligo, the "Sligo Picture Theatre" and the "Pavilion Picture and Variety Theatre". These old 1926 advertisements give "One Thomas Street, Sligo' as the address of the business. **Brief bio of Mr. Tadgh Kilgallon: "Born in Dromore West in 1862. he was editor of the Sligo Champion and subsequently ran the Sligo Star and the Leitrim Leader. He opened Sligo's first cinema in Thomas Street and ran a printing and publishing business for many years. He died in a road accident in October 1938." Hope this helps.. Ann

 

 

From: "Kevin J. Crean" <Kevin_J._Crean@HUD.GOV> |   Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 12:18:55 -0400 Subject: Re: [IRL-SLIGO] Heritage Center To: IRL-SLIGO-L@rootsweb.com Add Addresses Sue: I don't have any personal experience with the Sligo Heritage Center. I feel the same as you -- genealogy is my hobby and I'd rather perform the researh myself rather than pay for someone else to do it for me. Beside, you never know what unexpected information might reveal itself when you're scrolling through some microfilm looking for a particular ancestor. BUT, a cousin of mine did acquire some information for our common ancestors from the Sligo Center. He obtained a Family Group Sheet that listed the names of all family members, their dates of birth and baptism and their baptismal sponsors, etc. While it was nice to have all of this information in one place, and we did learn some information that we did not know before, the document did include some errors and ommissions, calling some of the new information into question as well. The names and all of the dates, etc. were handwritten on the Family Group Sheet while a second form relating to the 1901 Census was a computer printout. (Maybe the Center wants their own document to resemble an original census taker's form?) In any event, there was one child missing from both reports and one of the forms included 2 Patricks. Initially I thought one of the boys had died in infancy. I read that it was sometimes the custom to name succeeding children the same as those that had died. But I think I am certain now that their was an error in transcription and one of the Patrick's, based on the birthdate, etc. should be identified as Ellen. Another son, though, was completely new. Since he doesn't show up on the 1901 Census (I looked through the actual films myself), and some older relatives never mentioned him, I assume that he did die in childhood. Without the form we probably would not have known about him. The inclusion of the baptismal sponsors is great and, if accurate can save a lot of money and time trying to trace down all of the actual forms. One last item: perhaps this is just something that my cousin didn't pass on to me, but I do not know if the Center included a list of source documents with the information they supplied. I would guess that the information on baptisms came from local parish records but they didn't say. This, I think is quite unprofessional. Perhaps they are trying to ensure that others don't benefit from their research. I guess that all in all the Centers can save you some time and give you a lot of leads but I still want to verify everything by obtaining the original documents. I treat the information I received on a slightly higher level than family lore. Include it in the story but always make certain to indicate the source and reliability. And, by the way, I do not know how much my cousin paid for the information.

 

 

From: Voltene@aol.com |   Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 07:30:35 EDT Subject: Re: [CRYAN] Request for Crehan help To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com Add Addresses In a message dated 00-08-12 22:53:39 EDT, Fatarm@aol.com wrote: << This past week two Crehans on our list have asked for help to connect to other Crehan, Creahan, etc. researchers. In particular, we seem to be missing the company of Theresa Mary, formerly amethyst@inch.com. Are you now subscribed under a new name? Email addressed to this address has been returned. There may be a possible connection. Please respond to this message through the list, in case there are other Crehan re >> Hello, I would like to get in touch with Theresa Mary, also. About a year and a half ago I did lookups on her Crehans in Lowell. At the time, I did email her what I found, but I would like to send her the copies of the newpaper obits, the World War I Draft registrations, cemetery printouts and naturalization and birth records I have for her. A number of months ago, I tried to email her, but I got no response. Theresa Mary, if you are still on the list, please contact me. Karen Murphy

 

 

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Fatarm@aol.com |   Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 18:02:37 EDT Subject: Re: [CRYAN] Re Robert CRYAN and family To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Thanks for the additional information, Eve.  But I have to warn you

right off

the bat that we know for sure Robert and Frances had only 9 children (I

double-checked this fact), although an exception might be made for

infants

who died young, I would guess.  I also don't recall knowing of any

Galway

connection prior to your email -- I'll have to check all my notes again

in

case it slipped my mind.  I've only known of a Castlebar, Co. Mayo

birthplace

for Agnes and the South Dublin location for Robert Sr.'s death (and

Frances

Fox Cryan's and Agnes' workplaces after Robert's death).  Robert was in

the

RIC, however, and that certainly may have been the cause of the

family's

mobility.  Thank you again, Leslie

 

 

 

Fri, 25 Aug 2000 14:56:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Caoimhghin O Croidheain <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> |   Subject: re: Dolans of Roscommon and Leitrim To: DOLAN-L@rootsweb.com

Hi My great great grandmother was a Margaret Dolan who married Master John Cryan of Boyle and Croghan After his death she went to live in Carrick-on-Shannon near some other Dolans who were possibly relatives. Does anyone have any info taht throw some light on these Dolans or where they wer from in general? Thanks caoimhghin (Kevin Cryan)

 

 

Fri, 25 Aug 2000 14:58:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Caoimhghin O Croidheain <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> |   Subject: William Shanahan of Valentia To: SHANAHAN-L@rootsweb.com

Hi I am researching my great great grandparents William Shanahan and Eliza O'Sullivan of Valentia. I would love to know if there is a gravestone to either of them on the island as I believe they are buried there. Indeed if there are any gravestones to either of their ancestors that would be a bonus. Have the graveyards been surveyed? Any stories regarding the Cryan's (my family name ) would be appreciated as my great grandfather Joseph Cryan married Johanna Shanahan in 1890 on the island. Girlie Cryan my grandfather's sister married John O'Neill who worked in the wireless station. I hav a foto of my grandfather Liam(also a wireless operator) in front of the wireless training school which I believe was near Cahersiveen. regards, caoimhghin

 

 

 

Fri, 25 Aug 2000 15:02:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Caoimhghin O Croidheain <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> |   Subject: carty's of Tubberduff To: CARTY-L@rootsweb.com

Hi Looking fo info on Carty's of Tubberduff. I found some very old Carty gravestones in Kilninor graveyard near Gorey, Wexford. Anyone interested or knows anything re : Carty's of Tubberduff or Cronecribbon or Ballyconlore it woul be great to get into contact. regards caoimhghin

 

 

EileenBees@aol.com |   Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 20:32:24 EDT Subject: Re: Dolans of Roscommon and Leitrim & Cryan To: caoimhghin@yahoo.com

Found your e-mail interesting.  My great-grandmother on my mothers side

of

the family was a Nora Dolan (Roscommon).  My grand-mother on my fathers

side

was Agnes Crine whose father, Michael came from Galway.  Michael had a

brother, John who spelt his name Cryan.  John married ? and had a

daughter

Margaret (other children were Nora, John, Marria, Delia, Elizabeth,

William,

and Julia)  I have alot of "Crine" info mostly on Michael.  They

settled in

New Jersey.....could you be connected?

 

 

Voltene@aol.com |   Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 08:54:25 EDT Subject: [CRYAN] Lowell (MA) Police Court To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

You can find some interesting stuff going through the newspapers of the

1800's.

 

You never know who will appear in Lowell Police Court...

 

 

Lowell Morning Times

February 4,   1891

POLICE COURT

 

Feb. 3 -- Liquor cases took up this morning's session of the police

court.  

Two simples paid  $5  each.

         Edward Rourke's case of keepng liquor was called.  He was

defended

by Lawyer Enright.

        Officer Goodwin testified to visiting Rourke's house at 61

Suffolk

street at *30 p.m. on Jan. 23; found men going in and others in the

house;

also glasses and 20 gallons of ale.   Rourke was found guilty and fined 

$150.

        Michael J. Cryan's case for keeping liquor was next tried.  

Officer

Goodwin testified that Cryan kept a grocery store at 191 Market street. 

On

Jan. 24 witness visited the place and found a quantity of liquor in two

barrels and two kegs.  Cryan was found guilty and fined $150 to the

superior

court.   He appealed and was ordered  in $500 to the superior court.

 

--

Karen Murphy

 

Voltene@aol.com |   Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 09:11:57 EDT Subject: [CRYAN] Cryans in New Jersey and Lowell, MA To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Good Morning to the List, A while back a couple people posted that they had Cryans in New Jersey. Going through the file of Cryan obits I have, there are a few that list relatives in Newark, N.J. The families are descendents of Michael and Bridget (Foley) Cryan. Also, for anyone new on the list that may have Lowell, MA Cryans, I have obituaries for all Cryan (surname) buried in cemeteries in Lowell

 

 

Sun, 27 Aug 2000 15:35:55 PDT From: Karen McElrath <K.McElrath@Queens-Belfast.AC.UK> |   Reply-to: K.McElrath@Queens-Belfast.AC.UK Subject: [CRYAN] Re: crean

has anyone read the book, 'the burning of bridget cleary'? it is based on a true story and the attending physician was a Dr. William Crean of tipperary. karen

 

 

EileenBees@aol.com |   Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 14:19:45 EDT Subject: Re: Dolans of Roscommon and Leitrim & Cryan To: caoimhghin@yahoo.com

This is what I have on my Crine (Cryan) family tree. Patrick Crine married Mary Burke in Ireland and had 8 children: 1) John (spelled name Cryan) married ? and had 8 children Nora, Margaret, John, Marria, Delia, Elizabeth, William, Julia 2) Bridget (b about 1833 d. 1911) 3) Walter (b about 1840 d. 1908) 3 children that survived Marx or Mark J., Philip a and John H. 4) Mark (spelled name Cryan) d. in Ireland wife Mary Ann O'Beirne came over with her 8 children Patrick, George, Martin, Mark, Mary, Anna, Delia and Susan 5) Thomas (d. 1902) had 3 children: John, Henry, Rose 6) Michael (b 1838 d1913 my great grandfather) had 11 children that survived came to the US when he was 11 and sought out brother Thomas who lived in Marlboro, New Jersey. Children were: Mary, James, Delia, Roseanna, Michael, Walter, Theresa, Louise, Robert Vincent, Catherine and Agnes (my grandmother). 7) Mary - b 1834 d 1909 8) Patrick - no info may have settled in Boston That's just some of what I have. Someone from this hugh family did reseach and made 2 binders of info available to everyone in the family so I have alot of info on the decendents of these orginal Crine's.........Eileen

 

 

EileenBees@aol.com |   Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 08:51:06 EDT Subject: Re: Dolans of Roscommon and Leitrim & Cryan

Hello The only time a townland is mentioned in the research I have is under the children of Mark Cryan and Mary O'Beirne (she's the one who came to the US a widow with 8 children). It shows one of their children, Mark b 11/28/1865, Galway, Williamstown, Ireland. In all the research I've been given it's the only townland mentioned. I posted some of this on Rootweb like you suggested. I put one under Crine and another under Cryan. Didn't you find it amusing that we both have Dolans and Cryan in our family? Thanks for writing....Eileen

 

 

FamSpack" < > From: "FamSpack" < > |   Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 14:43:13 +0100 Subject: [CRYAN] CRYAN/DOLAN

To add to Eileen Bees list

I have a Susannah CRYAN born2 Nov 1868 in Williamstown Co Galway

Parents Mark Cryan and Mary O'Beirne

 

Eve

 

 

EileenBees@aol.com |   Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 14:08:43 EDT Subject: Re: Dolans of Roscommon and Leitrim & Cryan

Thanks so much for your help......must be a connection here.....I wrote

an

e-mail to her......what a surprise!!!!   Thanks again, Eileen

 

FamSpack" < > From: "FamSpack" < > |   Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 02:12:01 +0100 Subject: [CRYAN] CRYANs from Williamstown CoGalway

To Eileen Bees especially and to those who may be interested. I am sorry to disappoint you Eileen but as far as I know they are not my family but just a single item that I thought relevant from the LDS Vital Statistics CD. However, I have extracted nearly all the Cryans etc from the INDEXES to the Irish BMD Registers. Susannah(the only one)appears in 1868 from Glennamaddy(probably the registration district for Williamstown): so here are the other ones from Glennamaddy. BIRTHS 1864 none 1865 Margaret index number 14.521 1866 none 1867 none 1868 John........................9.349 Susannah................19.331 1869 none 1870 none 1871 none 1872 none 1973 none 1874 none 1875 n/a 1876 none 1877 none 1878(1) Patrick(Crine) ......... 4.335 but then no more until 1903(4th quarter) John Francis....4.226 1904 n/a 1905 n/a 1906(1) Annie........................4.237 1907(2) Patrick......................4.221 MARRIAGES not all years done 1903(1) John Glennamaddy 4.207 1864 - 72 none 1881-84 none 1898-1905 none except for John above DEATHS 1864 -1898 none in Glennamaddy 1899(4) John aged 67....4.165 ie born in 1832 approx. 1900 - 1901 none 1902(1) Julia M aged 22 4.188 ie born 1880 approx. 1903-1905 none NB I am unable to find Julia in the births but I do not have all the spelling variants after 1880. Other places that the families could have been registered could have been Mount Bellow(in Co Galway) not many Cryans or Castlereagh(in Co Roscommon) loads of Cryans (so only uncommon Christian names stand out) or Dunmore Co Galway but I have no Cryans registered there. Happy Hunting Eve

 

 

Thu, 31 Aug 2000 04:41:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Caoimhghin O Croidheain <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> |   Subject: Re: Dolans

Hi my grandmotherer Margaret Dolan got maried in Boyle in 1856 to John Cryan and then lived in Croghan nearby She went to Carrick on Shannon in Leitrim after he died in 1905. I dont know when she died. Dont know anything about her family either..... caoimhghin

 

annturner" <annturner@tinyworld.co.uk> |   To: <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> Subject: Valentia Island - Shanahan Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 15:51:54 +0100

Hi,

I have seen your message on the Valentia Island Message Board.

As a matter of interest, my parents now own the house that Willie Shanahan used to live in at Coombe Hill,Farranreagh, Knightstown, opposite to John & Eileen Shanahan. My mother comes from the Island - Ann Quigley (now Ann Cass) although she (we) live in Suffolk, England now. Where abouts are you?

 

I take it that you are in contact with John & Eileen Shanahan? - have they been able to help you at all with your research? We have just come back from Valentia and probably won't be going back until next year now but I would be happy to wander around the graveyard and have a look for gravestones for you. (I love doing that sort of thing - I am just starting to research my own family from Valentia) The grave yard is quite overgrown and older graves at the back are sometimes hard to get to. I will sort out a picture of my parent's house (Willie's) and send it to you.

I have spoken to my mother today and she remembers the Cryan's, (especially Girlie Cryan) and other members of the family. I am going over for dinner tonight so I will ask her some stories & info and get back to you

With kind regards

Ann Turner

 

 

FamSpack" < > From: "FamSpack" < > |   Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 00:53:15 +0100 Subject: [CRYAN] Re Cryans in Williamstown Co Galway

Colin Crehan, as a new family historian, asked some questions that others may also like to see the replies to. "What are the LDS Vital Statistics CDs and the Irish BMD Registers and where can I obtain them?" The Church of Jesus Christ and the Latterday Saints (LDS) have microfilmed many parish registers and other documents, relevent to family history in many countries throughout the world. Many of their church buildings have attached to them a Family History Centre where anyone can view these films. If the films are not in stock then the supervisor will borrow it from a central library for a charge. The LDS have produced a sets of CDs for various parts of the world,each with a selection of extracts from Parish Registers and some of the national registers. There is a set for the N America, a set for the British Isles (ie England, Wales, Scotland and all Ireland) and one for Australasia. I am not sure about any others.You may be luck to find the places that you want but not everywhere has been covered. I am sorry not to be able to do any look-ups but my CD with all the names beginning with C has been broken(overuse, I suspect). The Irish National Birth ,Marriages and Deaths(BMD) INDEXES - not registers are also available on film at the LDS FHCs. The telephone number and address of the FHC will be in the Telephone Book. Usually one has to book in advance. However first visit their website http://www.familysearch.org and look in the catalogue to see what is relevant to you . Film numbers and fiche numbers are given so that you can go prepared. The site also gives info. on their CDs Eve - happy hunting

 

Fri, 01 Sep 2000 10:35:55 +0000 Subject: Re: Pat Hunt again From: Patrick Hunt <pathunt@indigo.ie> |   To: Caoimhghin O Croidheain

Caoimhghin, Many thanks for your help to date. I now have the names of Thomas Cryan's children. I have an idea that the late Cryan brothers, Tom and Sean, who were remarkable journalists in their day, might have some connection with the Cryan family I want to know more about. Would you mind asking your Dad for the names of their widows, and roughly where they lived in Dublin. I spoke to one widow before; she was rather distressed because her husband died a short time previously. Now I can't remember her name and worse, I don't know which of the two widows she was. Thomas Cryan's children were: Amelia, Thomas, William and Robert. He was married to Mary Casey. If I send you a few paragraphs about this Cryan family, would you mind taking the trouble to put them on the Cryan net group. I don't know how to do it. Many thanks, Pat Hunt

 

Cay145@aol.com |   Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2000 10:54:35 EDT Subject: Fwd: Cryan surname/help

Kevin, I am Dorothy Catherine Cryan Chegwidden. I have recently been given information about my great-great grandfather Michael Cryan and his wife Bridget Foley Cryan. They were from Ireland and came to the U.S. They had children Margaret J. , Nellie T., Mary A., and John P. all born in Ireland. I'm not sure if there were others born there, but they had others here in the U.S., including Nora, Michael, James, Bertha B. Annie and maybe Helen. Michael and Bridget both died in the U.S., but I would like to know if you have any information on births of their children or their own births or their parentage, etc. I would appreciate any help. I had assumed that they were from Sligo or Rosecommon from the many inquiries of Cryan families that I've seen, but I don't know. I do know that Bridget Foley Cryan had a sister Mary married name in U.s. Murray who moved to Dixon, Neb. That's all I know of the ones who early on came from Ireland. I'm just now connecting with the U.S. information. My father Richard G. Cryan was born in Lowell, MA, as were his many brothers to John J. Cryan, who had a brother Leo C., also born in Lowell. Their father was John P. , who was born in Ireland. That would be my great grandfather. Am I confusing you? I seem to be myself. Any help or knowledge of where to look for help would greatly be appreciated. My dad died when I was five in the state of Kansas, and I have no real knowledge of my family. Dottie Cryan Chegwidden, Corpus Christi, TX

 

SSulli1128@aol.com |   Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2000 12:44:50 EDT Subject: Valentia Island Cemetery

I recently visited Valentia Island in July. I was in search of any relatives that may still be living there. I spent several hours at Kylemore Burial Grounds photographing headstones. I could not located William and Eliza Shannahan in my collection, however I do have pictures of other Shannahans and O'Sullivans and a Stephen Cryan. If you would like a CD of those photo's please send me your snail mail address. The CD is not a complete list of all the graves at the cemetery. The cemetery is badly over grown and difficult to walk through. I was being attacked by flies during my stay and was unfortunately unable to complete my project there. You are welcome to what I have, as I know how hard it is to do the research. Regards, Steve Sullivan

 

FamSpack" < > From: "FamSpack" < > |   Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2000 13:00:15 +0100 Subject: [CRYAN] Michael CRYAN of Lowell MA

Hi List-readers

 

I have recently been reading the Ballaghadereen RC parish registers and

collecting more CRYANs. By chance, I received a notice from another

list

that someone was looking for Michael CRYAN and Bridget FOLEY who went

from

Ireland to Lowell MA.

 

Wake -up all you Lowall researchers, do you know who this Michael is ? 

Is

he the one with the shop or is he one of the others? I remember some

census

data that someone posted. Please would someone kindly resurrect it for

all

to see.

 

Hopefully Dottie has re-subscribed by now - WELCOME

 

Until again, happy hunting Eve

...............................................

>From the RC parish registers of Ballaghadereen which is a

town on the borders of Counties Roscommon, Mayo and Sligo, I can offer

a

 

Marriage of Michael CRIEN/CRYANto Bridget FOLEY on 4 Sept 1864

witnesses John CRIEN/CRYAN and Mary HAYDEN

 

Mary ...bapt on 24 July 1865 parents Michael CRYAN and Margaret(I think

that

this is a mistake by the writer), should be Bridget FOLEY

witnesses John FOLEY and Mary FOLEY

 

Diff to readname but probably Hony(short for Honora, which has another

diminutive NORA)...bapt 14 Feb 1867 parents Michael CRYAN and Bridget

FOLEY

witnesses John CRYAN and Mary PLUNKETT

 

Anne....bapt 27 Nov 1868 parents Michael CRYAN and Bridget FOLEY

witnesses Pat PLUNKETT and Bridget PLUNKETT

 

All these are from the townland of Grophy, which I can not find on my

map.Perhaps it is too small or it has been absorbed in to a

neighbouring

townland,but as all the other townlands

 

 

Voltene@aol.com |   Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2000 10:12:49 EDT Subject: [CRYAN] Michael and Bridget (Foley) Cryan

Hi Group, I have been putting together my own database of CRYANs, not only in Lowell, but In MA 1860-1905, Births, Marriages and Deaths. Unfortunately, I only have obituaries for Cryans in Lowell. I was able to forward to Dottie the following obits for Michael and Bridget (Foley) Cryan. If Jill is still on the list, check out one of the bearers at Mary Cryan's funeral. Lowell Sun, 8 June 1899 Obituary Michael Cryan, an old resident of Lowell, died last evening at his house, 23 Fayette street. He was an esteemed member of the Holy Name Society of the Church of the Immaculate Conception. He leaves a wife, three sons, James, John and Michael, and six daughters. ---- Lowell Courier Citizen, Monday 19 Dec. 1921 Obituary Mrs. Bridget Cryan, and old resident of the Immaculate Conception parish, but for the past few years a resident of the Sacred Heart parish, died Saturday at her home, 27 Bourne street, off Moore street. She leaves six daughters, Mrs. Patrick Murphy, Misses Bertha, Annie, Helen, Margaret, and Nora Cryan; two sons, John and James; one sister, Mrs. Mary Murray of Dixon, Neb.; three grandchildren, John and Leo Cryan and Mrs. Aloysia Halloran, and two great-grandchildren, Ilene and Nora Frances Halloran. Bearers at the funeral, James O'Flahaven, Michael McKeon, Charles Sadlier, Patrick Kenney, Hugh McNiff, James K --- Another son, Michael Cryan, died in 1911. On his 1902 Naturalization in Lowell Police Court, it lists his place of birth as Balladereen, Co. Sligo, Ireland and date of birth as July 5, 1881. According to the Naturarization, he came to America at the age of 11 months, arriving about June 9, 1882 to the port of New York. Hope this helps anyone researching this family. Thanks Eve for the dates of marriage and baptisms. Karen Murphy Nashua, NH

 

Cay145@aol.com |   Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2000 19:57:01 EDT Subject: [CRYAN] Michael and Bridget (Foley) Cryan

Hello,  To the people doing Cryan research in Lowell, MA and in Newark

, N.J.

I am trying to find the descendants as well as the ancestors to the

Michael

and Bridget Cryan.  So far Eve and Karen have helped a great deal in

locating

these family members and some of the children.  They are my great-great

grandparents.  My great grandfather is John P. Cryan, born in Ireland. 

His

son John J. Cryan is my grandfather.  John Joseph married Catherine

Dubey in

Lowell....she was from Cambridge, I believe.  They had John, Richard

(my dad,

born in 1925, died in 1950), Ralph, Robert, Catherine Doris, Raymond,

the

latter born in 1930.  They moved to Newark, New Jersey sometime around

the

last child's birth.  I believe my grandfather John J. died in Irvington

or is

buried there in 1964. Catherine, grandmother, died in 1931. 

  I've lost touch with the Aunt Doris, who used to write, and now do

not know

if any are alive or well, but I know they have families in the Newark

area. 

So if any of you out there in Newark know this family, I would

appreciate

your information.  I think Ralph died very young, maybe in the war.  I

don't

know about the others.  If you have access to obits in the Newark area,

I

would appreciate ones on any of these family members.  I would

especially

like to see the ones for grandfather John Joseph in 1964 and Catherine

(Dubey) Cryan in 1931.  These might help in identifying the others. 

Thank

you again if you are researching in the area.  Dottie in Corpus

 

 

Cay145@aol.com |   Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2000 22:34:47 EDT Subject: Re: [CRYAN] Dolans of Roscommon and Leitrim & Cryan

Dear Caoimhghin@yahoo.com

I have recently discovered more about my family through this list and

other

Cryan sites...and wonderful people, such as Karen and Eve.  My

great-great

grandfather Michael spelled his name Crien/Cryan when he married Briget

Foley

in Sept 4, 1864.  I believe he had a brother John who spelled his name

Cryan

who attended the Michael and  Bridget's daughters' baptismal services

of

Nora, Mary, and Anne in 1865-68. They were baptized in Ballaghadereen

and

seemingly from the town of Grophy in that area.  Michael and Bridget

and ten

children settled in Lowell, Mass. But his great-great grandson, John

settled

in Newark, New Jersey.  (and his family  of many children)

 

 But I don't find an Agnes Crine in the family. Do you think this must

be

another family of Crien's or Cryan's or Crine's??????? I think it might

be,

but I thought I'd see if you had any more info. that might

relate.......or

see if this would help you.  Dottie

 

FamSpack" < > From: "FamSpack" < > |   Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 17:13:23 +0100 Subject: [CRYAN] Ballaghadereen Registers

Hi Patrick,

Although I do not live in the USA, I have been able to visit the local

Family History Centre (FHC) of the Church of Jesus Christ and the

LatterDay

Saints(the LDS) - they are open to the public and I believe that there

is

one in Dublin. The phone book should give the address

 

They have a huge collection of films and fiches associated with

genealogy

from all over the world. These include films of parish registers. You

will

be pleased to know that you can access their catalogue, as well as a

great

amount of data, through the internet . If you click on this URL you

should

get through and then go through the links to the bit that you want.

           http://www.familysearch.org

 

However the film number for Ballaghadereen is 1279232.

 

This film however may have to be ordered if they do not keep it in

stock, so

it is worth checking by phone first and they will tell you how much it

will

cost (here in England it is £4 for a loan of 3 months) and how to pay.

They

are very helpful. They will let you know when it is available to

use/read on

one of their film readers and you will most probably have to book as

the

film readers are well used.

 

On the film of The Ballaghadereen Registers there are different

sections

1 Baptisms Nov 1851 - 1860

2 Baptisms 1861 - 1870

3 Baptisms 1871 - 1875

4 Baptisms 1876 - 1884

5 Baptisms 1885 - 1895

6 Baptisms 1896 -

7 Marriages Aug 1830 - 1867

8 Marriages 1868 - 1873

9 Marriages 1874 -

also

10 Ballymote Marriages 1824 - 1865

11 Ballymote Marriages  1866 - 74

12 Ballymote Marriages  1874 -

13 Ballymote Baptisms 1856 - 76

14 Ballymote Baptisms  1877 -

15 Ballymote  Baptisms and Marriages 7 Dec 1874 - 1909

16 Killasser Baptisms 18? possibly 1848

17 Killasser Marriages 1847 -

 

I have extracted all the CRYANs CRIENs CRENS etc up to 1870 but have

not

found an obvious candidate for your Thomas CRYAN except

 

 ******* 5 Jan 1853 Thomas CRIEN  parent Patrick CRIEN (no mother

given)

witnesses James Gallagher and Mary Carty

 

Townlands are  given after 1860, after which time there are CRYANs and

variants in the townland that you mention - many of them are spelled

phonetically

Thus there are Cryans in Fallens, Fauleens,Faleens, Sharriff,Grophy,

Cloghan,Clogher, Boherlee, Banada

More,Creggane,Keelbanada,Castlemore,Ballaglin and Icelawn.

 

 **********As a "local" ,do you know where the townland of Grophy is. I

can

not find it on my OS map which gives a lot, but not all, of the

townlands

listed ?

 

There are CASEYs but I have only those married to CRYANs and I presume

the

marriage between Thomas and Mary took place after 1872 , so it should

appear

in the part that I have not collected, together with their children.

 

Good luck Eve

I am sending some of this to the CRYAN list as well as to you directly.

Thu, 09 Sep 1999 07:03:49 -0400 From: Margeret Dolan <mrdolan@hgo.net> |   Reply-to: mrdolan@hgo.net

Dear Kevin, I can't say for sure, but it certainly is close to where the rest of them are.....are you going to try to come to the reunion next August? I hope so....keep in touch, and I'll get back to you with Dolan info......PeggyD Caoimhghin O Croidheain wrote: > Hi > My great great grandmother was a Margaret Dolan who > married Master John Cryan of Boyle and Croghan After > his death she went to live in Carrick-on-Shannon near > some other Dolans who were possibly relatives. > Does anyone have any info taht throw some light on > these Dolans or where they wer from in general? > Thanks > caoimhghin > (Kevin Cryan)

 

Cay145@aol.com Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 12:20:42 EDT Subject: hello from a Cryan To: caoimhghin@yahoo.com

Kevin,

This is Dottie Chegwidden (Cryan) from Corpus Christi, TX., originally

from Kansas.  Eve and Karen from the Cryan mailing list have discovered that

my great-great grandfather, Michael Crien/Cryan married a Bridget Foley in

1864 in Ballaghadereen RC Parish.  They were from Grophy, we think. Anyway,

Michael and Bridget had several children there.....and then moved to

Lowell,

Mass. I think Michael must have had a brother, John......not sure about

the others.......and Bridget had a sister Mary who married a Murray and

moved to Nebraska.  Do you find any connections here?

My father Richard George Cryan died when I was five, so I've been

trying to trace down family for a long time.  I know my grandfather John J. Cryan

was born in Lowell, Mass. and moved to Newark, N.J. with his family.  His

father was John P. who was born in Ireland, I assume in the area mentioned

where Michael and Bridget were married.  Confused? I am a little.  Well, I

thought I'd check to see if there are connections here........take care. 

Dottie

KBri490226@aol.com | Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 19:11:09 EDT Subject: 1911 news article To: caoimhghin@yahoo.com

Rec'd the  newspaper article  today. Boy, it sure  made news didn't it. 

I really enjoyed reading  it. Thanks again for sending it to me. Do you

live in caherisiveen? kathleen

FamSpack" < > From: "FamSpack" < > Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 01:31:39 +0100 Subject: [CRYAN] Robert CRYAN To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Leslie,

You wll be pleased to know that I checked the Irish Register Indexes

forFrancis Fox 's marriage which is 1871 in Galway with index number

14.131....the same as Robert.

So yes it is the one

Eve

Wed, 06 Sep 2000 18:57:19 +0000 Subject: Re: Pat Hunt again and again From: Patrick Hunt <pathunt@indigo.ie>

Caoimhghin, I am so sorry. I thought that Des Cryan was your father: it was he who put me in touch with you in the first instance. It was an assumption I made, nothing he wrote. What I wanted to know is how or where I could contact the widows or family of the late Tom and Sean Cryan. I was in touch with one of the Cryan widows a couple of years ago; her husband was not long dead; I did not push the matter; now I can't remember which widow she was. I have already been in touch with some of the Cryan contributors on the list. They are wonderfully enthusiastic people. I wish people of my surname were as good. I will be in touch. Best wishes, Pat Hunt > From: Caoimhghin O Croidheain <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> > Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 05:56:27 -0700 (PDT) > To: Patrick Hunt <pathunt@indigo.ie> > Subject: Re: Pat Hunt again > > Hi > > > My uncle Des Cryan worked in the papers and I can ask > him but I am in Belgium till 16th of Sep. My father > died in 1990. > > Please do send any information about any Cryans and I > will post them on the list as there are lots of > researchers who can be very helpful on the list > as they have so much inforamtion collected now. > > regards > caoimhghin > > > > --- Patrick Hunt <pathunt@indigo.ie> wrote: > > Caoimhghin, >> >> Many thanks for your help to date. I now have >> the names of Thomas >> Cryan's children. >> >> I have an idea that the late Cryan brothers, Tom >> and Sean, who were >> remarkable journalists in their day, might have some >> connection with the >> Cryan family I want to know more about. Would you >> mind asking your Dad for >> the names of their widows, and roughly where they >> lived in Dublin. I spoke >> to one widow before; she was rather distressed >> because her husband died a >> short time previously. Now I can't remember her name >> and worse, I don't know >> which of the two widows she was. >> >> Thomas Cryan's children were: Amelia, Thomas, >> William and Robert. He was >> married to Mary Casey. >> >> If I send you a few paragraphs about this Cryan >> family, would you mind >> taking the trouble to put them on the Cryan net >> group. I don't know how to >> do it. >> >> Many thanks, >> >> Pat Hunt

 

FamSpack" < > From: "FamSpack" <  To: "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: in general.... Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 15:41:51 +0100

Hi,

It sounds a good idea in theory but most of my information is on a card

index and sheets of paper - doing that part of the 1901 census for

Roscommonwas quite enough.

And ....the only conversations on the list would be of the type

...."whereis....?"  " Look in...." type. One can at least interact and stimulate

others to interact.

Anyway, I believe that one should try to look at the information for

oneself, not believe the thousands of lists that should only be giving

apointer in the right direction. If one looks at even a film of the

parishregisters one learns a great deal about the time that it was written -

no-one seemed to believe me when I said that the same surname can be

spelledseveral different ways even within one family because the person/priest

whowrote it, heard and interpreted what the informant said in a different

way.One has to see to believe !!! (where have we heard that before?).

There is also the possibility that if one looks at the parish register

onecan trace other parts of the family.

I shall carry on as now, for the time being.

Regards Eve

 

How is the thesis getting on

KBri490226@aol.com Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 12:02:24 EDT Subject: Re: 1911 news article

Hi, I relly don"t know if Timothy was a relative, as I have not been able to get past my grandparents for info on the family. I got the name of a Morley from the Valentia website and wrote to him on Valentia in Aug. ; but have not received a reply. I will keep looking , being retired gives me plenty of time. I was wondering how would you pronounce your first name or what would be the english eqivalent? I am planning on taking a Gaelic course at a local college in Jan. kathleen

noreen o' sullivan" <norosul@hotmail.com To: caoimhghin@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Valentia Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2000

From: Caoimhghin O Croidheain <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> >To: "noreen o'" sullivan <norosul@hotmail.com> >Subject: Valentia >Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 14:09:30 -0700 (PDT) > >Hi Noreen >Could you tell me if there is a heritage centre on >Valentia ? >I know there is a Museum ...could you give me the >address again? I would like to find out if the old >graves have been surveyed as I would like to find the >graves of my great great grandparents William Shanahan >and Eliza O'Sullivan and their parents etc... > >Does the museum have a web site or address? > >Thanks again >caoimhghin (Kevin Cryan) >Dear Caoimhghin, Sorry for delay i replying,our computers were down with eircom bug. There is only a museum in Valentia not a heritage centre,perhaps they may be able to help you.they are at Knightstown,Valentia. Slan, Noreen. >

 

Cay145@aol.com Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2000 22:39:32 EDT Subject: immigration site

www.nara.gov/geneaology/immigration/immigrat.html

sorry, if I forgot to paste ....Dottie

Bibliographies

Filby, P. William, ed. Passenger and Immigration Lists Bibliography,

1538-1900. 2d ed. Detroit, MI: Gale Research Co., 1988.

Lancour, Harold, comp. A Bibliography of Ship Passenger Lists,

1538-1825;

Being a Guide to Published Lists of Early Immigrants to North America.

3d ed.

New York: New York Public Library, 1978.

 

Wood, Virginia Steele. Immigrant Arrivals: A Guide to Published

Sources.

Revised. (Washington, DC: Library of Congress, Local History &

Genealogy

Reading Room, n.d.).

 

 

Compilations

Carl Boyer and Michael Tepper, each using a different format, have

undertaken to publish the names in Lancour's lists. Tepper's coverage of Lancour

is not comprehensive: an inventory of those articles omitted appears on pages

viii, ix and x of New World Immigrants.....

Boyer, Carl. Ship Passenger Lists, National and New England

(1600-1825).

Newhall, CA: C. Boyer, 1977. Covers Lancour entries 1-71.

 

Boyer, Carl. Ship Passenger Lists, New York and New Jersey (1600-1825).

Newhall, CA: C. Boyer, 1978. Covers Lancour entries 72-115.

 

Boyer, Carl. Ship Passenger Lists, Pennsylvania and Delaware

(1641-1825).

Newhall, CA: C. Boyer, 1980. Covers Lancour entries 116-197.

 

Boyer, Carl. Ship Passenger Lists, the South (1538-1825). Newhall, CA:

C.

Boyer, 1979. Covers Lancour entries 198E-243.

 

Tepper, Michael. New World Immigrants: a Consolidation of Ship

Passenger

Lists and Associated Data from Periodical Literature. Baltimore:

Genealogical

Publishing Co., 1979.

 

Tepper, Michael. Passengers to America: A Consolidation of Ship

Passenger

Lists From the New England Historical and Genealogical Register.

Baltimore:

Genealogical Publishing Co., 1977.

 

Tepper, Michael. Emigrants to Pennsylvania, 1641-1819: a Consolidation

of

Ship Passenger Lists from the Pennsylvania Magazine of History and

Biography.

Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co., 1978

 

Tepper, Michael. Immigrants to the Middle Colonies: a Consolidation of

Ship

Passenger Lists and Associated Data from The New York Genealogical and

Biographical Record. Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co., 1978

 

 

Ethnic Groups

There are numerous published name indexes to 16th through 19th century

arrivals of persons of various ethnic groups, including persons of

Czechoslovakian, Dutch, English, German, Irish, Italian, and Russian

descent.

For a listing of some of these indexes, see:

 

Wood, Virginia Steele. Immigrant Arrivals: A Guide to Published

Sources.

Revised. (Washington, DC: Library of Congress, Local History &

Genealogy

Reading Room, n.d.).

 

Two online guides to immigration by particular ethnic groups are:

 

Douglas, Lee V. Danish Immigration to America: An Annotated

Bibliography of

Resources at the Library of Congress. Research Guide No. 28.

(Washington, DC:

Library of Congress, Local History & Genealogy Reading Room, n.d.).

Douglas, Lee V. A Select Bibliography of Works: Norwegian-American

Immigration and Local History. Research Guide No. 6. (Washington, DC:

Library

of Congress, Local History & Genealogy Reading Room, n.d.).

 

Part 3: 1820-1959

 

Fri, 8 Sep 2000 04:33:53 PDT From: Karen McElrath <K.McElrath@Queens-Belfast.AC.UK> Reply-to: K.McElrath@Queens-Belfast.AC.UK Subject: [CRYAN] Re: irish townlands

received this info from the ancestry.com news.  most of it focuses on

the north of

ireland, but some information might be useful (karen)

 

=============

"IRISH TOWNLANDS: BEYOND THE DEFINITION," by Sherry Irvine

============================================================

Townlands turn up in Irish research and nowhere else. It is an unusual

term--asI type this article, every use of the word has a red underline. The

spell checkthinks two words have been run together by mistake. Set out on the

trail of anIrish ancestor, however, and you will discover townlands.

It is easy enough to gather some basic facts about townlands. You will

quicklylearn that they are important for research because certain records were

collected or recorded with townland as the basic division. Townlands

are anancient land unit and once numbered more than 60,000. However, finding

them onmaps can sometimes be difficult.

 

All of this is essentially true, but it leaves out much of the

story--pointswhich were brought home to me during a visit to Northern Ireland in

April.Needing a change one afternoon, I abandoned my research and went to the

UlsterMuseum and there came across the 30 panels of a traveling exhibit,

"CelebratingUlster's Townlands." This explained a lot. The townland existed long

before the14th century, perhaps from as early as the 1100s. It was a meaningful

entity,and it was how a small, local community identified itself. Townlands

seemed toderive from what defined a family holding, and in some rural areas

until recenttimes, the townland name was the postal address.

 

Boundaries of townlands were expressed in terms of notable natural or

man-madefeatures of the landscape, such as hilltops, rivers and streams, walls,

orroads, and very often it was these features that became the names of

townlands.Landmarks, trees, plants, and animals all appear among the names;

Eglish(church), Fofanny (thistle place), and Rosnamuck (wood of the pigs) are

threeexamples ("Celebrating Ulster's Townlands," by Kate Muhr, Ulster

Place-NameSociety, 1999).

 

The townland is the smallest administrative division, and all other

divisionsare made up of townlands. Anywhere from five to 30 townlands comprise

one civilparish. In other words, size varies from the smallest, which is less

than twoacres, to the largest--more than 7,000 acres. This is an indication of

landquality: the better land was divided into smaller townlands.

 

At the time of the Plantation of Ireland, part of the policy of

resettlement wasto introduce the English system of land tenure. In their leases, the

proprietorsdescribed land according to townlands for the simple reason that there

was in1608 no proper survey of the confiscated areas. In addition, for the

severalgeneral land surveys later in the 17th century, the townland was the

basic landunit. Thus it became standard in land transactions, and estates were

mapped withreference to townlands.

 

The first effort to create a generally accepted list of townland names

came atthe time of the Down Survey, 1655-59. This was the work of Sir William

Petty,who took an interest in the ancient names and in retaining them, but

who had apreference for expressing them in English. The list was published about

70 yearsago as "A Topographical Index of the Parishes and Townlands of Ireland

in SirWilliam Petty's Manuscript Barony Maps 1655-59" (ed. By Y.M. Goblet,

Dublin,1932).

 

Nearly 200 years later, the British government undertook a townland

survey of

Ireland to create a detailed mapping at a scale of six inches to the

mile. The

maps were to be supplemented with "aide-memoires," or written

descriptions of

details that could not fit on the plans. The Ordnance Survey Memoirs,

completed

only for the northern counties, were the result. On the maps, townlands

were all

marked, including some newly created, generally those identified with

prefixes

like Upper, Lower, North, South, etc. John O'Donovan was hired to

standardize

the names so that duplication was avoided. His workbooks survive in

Ireland and

can sometimes help in the identification of a place name. It was this

official

mapping that made permanent the townland names found in the various

indexes, in

particular the widely available "General Alphabetical Index to the

Townlands and

Towns, Parishes and Baronies of Ireland Based on the Census of Ireland

for the

Year 1851" (originally published in 1861; reprinted, GPC, 1984).

 

Records based on townlands and commonly consulted by genealogists are

census

returns, tithe applotments, Griffith's Primary Valuation and subsequent

valuations, taxes, deeds, the spinning wheel lists, rentals of estate

lands, and

maps. Knowing the townland where ancestors lived may prove significant

in

setting a family apart from others of the same surname. To be useful,

however,

the townland needs to be in context--what parish, barony, and county is

it in?

However, sometimes the problem is the reverse: the townland is unknown,

and a

record must be used to discover it.

 

To place a townland, begin with the one of the various indexes to

townlands

published in association with the census returns (one was mentioned

above, and

others can be found by referring to the Family History Library Catalog

(tm)

under Ireland - Gazetteers). You can search for townlands on the

Internet at

http://www.seanruad.com. Townlands can also be referenced according to

the Poor

Law Unions created in the middle of the 1800s ("Townlands and Poor Law

Unions,"

by G.B. Handran, Higginson, 1997).

 

If a family can be positively identified, then records such as

valuations and

tithe applotment books will indicate which townland a particular family

lived in

at that point in time. On the other hand, knowing the townland does not

automatically pinpoint location. Among the 60,000 and more names, there

is

duplication. Also (though not such a difficult problem), it may not be

possible

to distinguish between a townland name and the name of the parish,

e.g.,

Faughanvale Townland is in Faughanvale Parish in County Londonderry.

 

Knowing the townland focuses research, both geographically and with

respect to

records. As far as geography is concerned, one example is the modern

discoverer/discovery series of maps--1:50,000 sheets issued by the

OrdnanceSurvey offices of Ireland and Northern Ireland; these include townland

names.For records, the Registry of Deeds is an example. It has an index to

grantorsand a place index based on townlands that allows searching by region,

whether ornot your ancestor was a likely grantor.

This article began with the traveling exhibit "Celebrating Ulster's

Townlands,"which started its journey in Fermanagh in 1999 and will wander in and

out ofWales and southwest Scotland, as well as across Northern Ireland, into

nextyear. It is the work of the Northern Ireland Place-Name Project, which

comesunder the Department of Celtic Studies at The Queen's University of

Belfast. TheInstitute of Irish Studies (http://www.qub.ac.uk/iis/) at the

university haspublished a "Dictionary of Ulster Place-Names" (Patrick McKay, 1999)

and thefirst seven volumes of The Place-Names of Northern Ireland (so far

covering Downand parts of Antrim and Derry).

 

EDITOR’S NOTE: For those planning on visiting Ireland in the next few

months, aschedule for the traveling exhibit "Celebrating Ulster's Townlands" is

availableonline at: http://www.niclr.com/timequest/pages/placena.html

Cay145@aol.com Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2000 23:22:33 EDT Subject: canada cryan's

Hi all,I thought if you hadn't discovered this place, you might find it

interesting.the web site ishttp://www.valleyweb.com/victoriasinn

Their e-mail address is victoria.inn@ns.sympatico.ca

 <A HREF="http://www.valleyweb.com/victoriasinn/">Victoria's Historic

Inn & Carriage House</A> Dottie

 

Cay145@aol.com Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 11:10:26 EDT Subject: cryan / crien

This list from Delaware Co., NY Genealogy and Hist. Site has a Patrick

Crean,

a Michael Crine, Michael Cryan and thomas Cryan listed on it for anyone

who hasn't seen this....Dottie

www.rootsweb.com/`nydelawa/naturali.html <A

HREF="http://www.rootsweb.com/~nydelawa/naturali.html">Naturalization

Records, Delaware Co., NY</A>

Sun, 10 Sep 2000 20:29:20 +0000 From: Patrick Hunt <pathunt@indigo.ie> Subject: [CRYAN] The College in the Bog

Hello all Cryan folk, In the last 20 years of the 19th Century a village schoolmaster called Thomas Cryan flourished in a townland called Townabrack, located between Monasteraden and Gurteen in South Co Sligo, close to the shore of Lough Gara. So successful was Master Cryan at securing scholarships for his pupils that his little school became known as ŒThe College in the Bog¹. Even children from distant parts took lodgings with local families so that they could drink at this extraordinary fountain of knowledge. Thomas Cryan was born in the early 185Os and died in September 1904. His place of birth was probably Fauleens, a townland often incorporated into Shroove in various records. He married Mary Casey who came from a townland in Monasteraden. They had four children that I know of: Amelia, William, Thomas and Robert (Bertie). I have heard that Bertie died young of TB. I traced William and Thomas to Clongowes Wood College in Co Kildare, where they were outstanding students in the 1890s. Thereafter the trail runs cold. Why? One tradition has it that one of the boys, either William or Thomas, was killed in a motor cycle accident in the 1920s or 1930s. The other boy, either William or Thomas, may have emigrated to Canada. Amelia? The first rumour I heard about her was that she became a journalist with The Times of London. The first hard piece of information I gathered about her was that she worked for the League of Nations in Geneva. At one stage she returned to Co Sligo and brought with her the first ever radio in that part of the country. That would have been in pre-Radio Eireann days. I am desperate for leads in my search for descendants (if any) of those Cryan children or anecdotes about their extraordinary father. I find it extraordinary that so little is known about Master Cryan and his family. It may be that his wife and children left the area after 1905 to live in Dublin. Can anybody help me. Pat Hunt 3 Rosslyn Court Bray Co Wicklow pathunt@indigo.ie tel. Dublin 286 0798

 

Mon, 11 Sep 2000 05:54:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Caoimhghin O Croidheain <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> Subject: [CRYAN] Cryan Commonwealth War Graves

The Commonwealth War Graves Commission http://yard.ccta.gov.uk/cwgc/register.nsf In Memory of HENRY CRYAN Ordinary Signalman P/JX619995 H.M.S. Moreta., Royal Navy who died on Thursday, 11th April 1946. Age 20. Additional Information: Son of Patrick and Ellen Cryan, of St. Helens, Lancashire. Commemorative Information Cemetery: BEIRUT WAR CEMETERY, Lebanese Republic Grave Reference/ Panel Number: 9. C. 1. Location: Beirut War Cemetery is located approximately 2-3 kilometres from the centre of Beirut in the El Horj district on Rue Jalloul, which runs west of Avenue de Novembre which is next to a park known as the Forest of Pines. The cemetery is in two sections, bisected by Rue Jalloul. In Memory of JOHN CRYAN Private L/2652 5th (Royal Irish) Lancers who died on Thursday, 21st June 1917. Age 28. Additional Information: Son of Thomas and Hanoria Cryan, of Townenane House, Monasteraden, Co. Sligo. Commemorative Information Cemetery: UNICORN CEMETERY, VEND'HUILE, Aisne, France Grave Reference/ Panel Number: II. H. 3. Location: Vendhuile is a village about 19 kilometres north of St Quentin and 24 kilometres south-east of Peronne. Unicorn Cemetery is about 3 kilometres south-west of Vendhuile on the west side of the road to the villages of Lempire and Ronssoy. In Memory of JANE CRYAN who died on Thursday, 13th March 1941. Age 74. Additional Information: at 9 Pattison Street, Dalmuir. Commemorative Information Cemetery: BURGH OF CLYDEBANK, Section of the Civilian War Dead Register In Memory of JAMES CRYAN who died on Sunday, 13th October 1940. Age 74. Additional Information: of 27 Hurworth Road. Injured 29 August 1940, at 27 Hurworth Road; died at Royal Infirmary. Commemorative Information Cemetery: COUNTY BOROUGH OF SHEFFIELD, YORKSHIRE (WEST RIDING), Section of the Civilian War Dead Register In Memory of J S CRYAN Second Lieutenant 218th Sqdn., Royal Air Force who died on Sunday, 11th August 1918. Commemorative Information Cemetery: ZEEBRUGGE CHURCHYARD, Brugge, West-Vlaanderen, Belgium Grave Reference/ Panel Number: 201. Location: Zeebrugge Churchyard is located in the Port town of Zeebrugge itself on the Sint Donaasstraat. The cemetery is approached via the N34 Kustlaan which passes through the town of Zeebrugge. Having passed the ferry port terminal continue northwards along the N34 (following the route of the tramlines) for 1.5 km. Sint Donaas church is a large red brick building with a slate roof. Having seen the church on the right hand side, turn right of the N34 onto the Sint Donaas kerk straat. The Commission cemetery is at the far right side of the churchyard surrounded by a red brick wall. In Memory of PATRICK CRYAN Private 2679 2nd Bn., Irish Guards who died on Wednesday, 13th September 1916. Commemorative Information Memorial: THIEPVAL MEMORIAL, Somme, France Grave Reference/ Panel Number: Pier and Face 7 D Location: The Thiepval Memorial will be found on the D73, off the main Bapaume to Albert road (D929).

 

Mon, 11 Sep 2000 06:00:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Caoimhghin O Croidheain <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> Subject: [CRYAN] war graves

Sorry I missed two of the results. I am in Belgium at the moment and found out re: this site from our guide. I was at the Mennin Gate yesterday and tried to spot any Cryans etc and couldnt see any as there were so many names but there was as you shall see below!! In Memory of ROBERT CRYAN Private 51325 9th Bn., Royal Scots who died on Thursday, 1st August 1918. Age 19. Additional Information: Son of Catherine Cryan, of 1377, Maryhill Rd., Maryhill, Glasgow, and the late John Cryan. Commemorative Information Memorial: SOISSONS MEMORIAL, Aisne, France Location: The town of Soissons stands on the left bank of the River Aisne, approximately 100 kilometres north-east of Paris. The Soissons Memorial, which will be found in the public square, commemorates nearly 4,000 war dead from the 1914-1918 War who have no known grave. Its particular reference is to the Battles of the Aisne and Marne, 1918, in which comparatively small bodies of British troops played a conspicuous part in defeat and in victory. The memorial consists of a cenotaph before which stands the figures of three soldiers. Behind the memorial is a three-sided wall bearing the names of those officers and men who fell in this theatre of war and who have no known grave. The memorial register is kept at the Mairie where it may be consulted. In Memory of STEPHEN JOSEPH CRYAN Private 3786 31st Bn., Australian Infantry, A.I.F who died on Wednesday, 26th September 1917. Commemorative Information Memorial: YPRES (MENIN GATE) MEMORIAL, Ieper, West-Vlaanderen, Belgium Grave Reference/ Panel Number: Panel 7 - 17 - 23 - 25 - 27 - 29 - 31 Location: Ypres (now Ieper) is a town in the Province of West Flanders. The Memorial is situated at the eastern side of the town on the road to Menin and Courtrai, and bears the names of men who were lost without trace during the defence of the Ypres Salient in the First World War. Historical Information: A description of the Memorial and an account of the military operations in the Ypres Salient is contained in a separate Introductory part to the Registers.

Mon, 11 Sep 2000 06:07:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Caoimhghin O Croidheain <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> Subject: [CRYAN] Commonwealth War Graves

I already sent this with more detail but it hasnt come through yet so I sen the full lis again just in case http://yard.ccta.gov.uk/cwgc/register.nsf Name Rank Regiment Date of Death CRYAN, H Ordinary Signalman Royal Navy 11th Apr 1946 CRYAN, J Private 5th (Royal Irish) Lancers 21st Jun 1917 CRYAN, J Civilian 13th Mar 1941 CRYAN, J Civilian 13th Oct 1940 CRYAN, J S Second Lieutenant Royal Air Force 11th Aug 1918 CRYAN, P Private Irish Guards 13th Sep 1916 CRYAN, R Private Royal Scots 1st Aug 1918 CRYAN, S J Private Australian Infantry, A.I.F 26th Sep 1917

Mon, 11 Sep 2000 06:12:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Caoimhghin O Croidheain <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> Subject: [CRYAN] More Graves

Debt of Honour Register Here are the results of your enquiry. There are 30 records which match your search criteria. Select a name to see more details Name Rank Regiment Date of Death CREAN, A Private King's Own (Royal Lancaster Regt.) 15th Dec 1916 CREAN, A P Civilian 27th Sep 1940 CREAN, F Private Australian Infantry Base Depot 28th Dec 1914 CREAN, H Private The Buffs (East Kent Regiment) 30th Sep 1918 CREAN, J Private West Yorkshire Regt. (Prince of Wales's Own) 10th Nov 1915 CREAN, J Private South Wales Borderers 20th Jun 1915 CREAN, J Corporal Royal Garrison Artillery 2nd Jun 1918 CREAN, J Corporal Royal Air Force (Aux. Air Force) 7th Nov 1944 CREAN, J F Captain Lancashire Hussars 17th Oct 1918 CREAN, K Driver Royal Army Service Corps 24th Mar 1947 CREAN, P Private Royal Army Service Corps 18th Jun 1920 CREAN, P L Lance Corporal N.Z. Rifle Brigade 26th Jul 1916 CREAN, R A Private South Lancashire Regiment 8th Nov 1916 CREAN, T Private Canterbury Regiment, N.Z.E.F. 15th Oct 1917 CREAN, T Captain Royal Flying Corps 26th Oct 1914 CREAN, T Private Royal Army Service Corps 10th Dec 1919 CREAN, W J Leading Stoker Royal Navy 17th Nov 1940 CREANE, J Private Connaught Rangers 3rd Feb 1915 CREANEY, C Corporal Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers 21st Aug 1915 CREANEY, F Rifleman Royal Ulster Rifles 12th Aug 1943 CREANEY, J Private Connaught Rangers 11th Mar 1916 CREANEY, J Aircraftman 2nd Class Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve 3rd Jun 1943 CREANEY, J Private Royal Irish Fusiliers 1st Jul 1916 CREANEY, J Fireman Merchant Navy 5th May 1941 CREANEY, J Private Highland Light Infantry 20th May 1917 CREANEY, M O Private Wellington Regiment, N.Z.E.F. 4th Oct 1917 CREANEY, S Gunner Royal Artillery 23rd Apr 1941 CREANEY, T Able Seaman Royal Canadian Navy Vol. Reserve 13th Sep 1942 CREANEY, T Private Seaforth Highlanders 20th Oct 1914 CREANEY, W J Private Special Air Service Regiment, A.A.C. 17th Jun 1944 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- CRINES, H Private Duke of Wellington's (West Riding Regt.) 31st Jul 1921 Name Rank Regiment Date of Death CREHAN, J Private Leinster Regiment 9th Jun 1917 CREHAN, K Civilian 12th Mar 1941 CREHAN, M Private Durham Light Infantry 27th Mar 1918 CREHAN, M J Major Royal Canadian Infantry Corps 20th Oct 1944 CREHAN, T Private Connaught Rangers 2nd Jun 1917 CREHAN, T Sergeant Royal Air Force 24th Nov 1940 CREHAN, V J Private York and Lancaster Regiment 2nd Apr 1917 CREHAN, W L Corporal Royal Marines 2nd Oct 1942 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Name Rank Regiment Date of Death CRANE, A Corporal King's Own Yorkshire Light Infantry 3rd Sep 1917 CRANE, A Civilian 20th Feb 1943 CRANE, A Private The Queen's (Royal West Surrey Regt.) 8th Oct 1915 CRANE, A Private York and Lancaster Regiment 13th Sep 1916 CRANE, A Corporal South Wales Borderers 4th Jul 1917 CRANE, A Private Northumberland Fusiliers 8th Aug 1917 CRANE, A Private Royal Irish Regiment 11th Aug 1918 CRANE, A Sapper Royal Engineers 16th Oct 1914 CRANE, A Gunner Royal Artillery 26th Feb 1944 CRANE, A Gunner Royal Artillery 22nd Apr 1944 CRANE, A Private West Yorkshire Regt. (Prince of Wales's Own) 20th Aug 1917 CRANE, A Lance Corporal Middlesex Regiment 29th Sep 1915 CRANE, A Serjeant Leicestershire Regiment 13th Oct 1915 CRANE, A B Private East Surrey Regiment 11th Jun 1916 CRANE, A B Private London Regiment 8th Oct 1916 CRANE, A B E Corporal Australian Army Service Corps 9th Jun 1945 CRANE, A C Private Machine Gun Corps (Inf) 17th Jan 1920 CRANE, A C Engine Room Artificer Royal Canadian Navy 22nd Oct 1940 CRANE, A C Corporal Machine Gun Corps (Inf) 22nd Jul 1916 CRANE, A C G Ordinary Signalman Royal Navy 22nd Mar 1942 CRANE, A D Private Northamptonshire Regiment 16th Feb 1916 CRANE, A D Lance Bombardier Royal Artillery 9th Jun 1941 CRANE, A E Private Leicestershire Regiment 7th Nov 1918 CRANE, A E Pilot Officer Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve 5th Jun 1942 CRANE, A E Corporal Royal Sussex Regiment 5th Aug 1944 CRANE, A E C Gunner Royal Australian Artillery 23rd Dec 1943 CRANE, A E J Corporal Lord Strathcona's Horse 1st Dec 1917 CRANE, A F Private Durham Light Infantry 29th Oct 1918 CRANE, A G Corporal Royal Australian Air Force 29th Jul 1946 CRANE, A G Private Royal Warwickshire Regiment 24th Jul 1918 CRANE, A H Rifleman King's Royal Rifle Corps 19th Sep 1917 CRANE, A H Private Northumberland Fusiliers 8th Oct 1918 CRANE, A J Private Royal Fusiliers 23rd Aug 1918 CRANE, A J Private Royal Fusiliers 24th Oct 1916 CRANE, A J V Sergeant Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve 29th Jan 1945 CRANE, A L Rifleman Royal Ulster Rifles 1st Sep 1941 CRANE, A M A Civilian 11th May 1941 CRANE, A R Private Manchester Regiment 13th Sep 1917 CRANE, A R Private Tank Corps 29th Sep 1918 CRANE, A T Leading Telegraphist Royal Navy 24th Feb 1916 CRANE, A W Private Royal Fusiliers 15th Sep 1916 CRANE, B Trooper 142nd Regt. (7th Suffolks), R.A.C. 1st Aug 1943 CRANE, B D Flight Sergeant Royal Canadian Air Force 29th Sep 1942 CRANE, B K Corporal Australian Army Dental Corps 17th Nov 1943 CRANE, B L Sergeant Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve 15th Mar 1943 CRANE, B W Driver Royal Corps of Signals 20th Jan 1943 CRANE, C Private Dorsetshire Regiment 1st Jul 1916 CRANE, C Leading Aircraftman Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve 25th Nov 1943 CRANE, C Private Welsh Regiment 25th Aug 1918 CRANE, C Private Suffolk Regiment 21st Oct 1943 CRANE, C Lance Corporal 6th Dragoons (Inniskilling) 13th May 1915 CRANE, C A Private Grenadier Guards 25th Sep 1916 CRANE, C A Private London Regt (Royal Fusiliers) 7th Oct 1916 CRANE, C C Private West Yorkshire Regt. (Prince of Wales's Own) 24th Sep 1917 CRANE, C E Second Lieutenant Duke of Cornwall's Light Infantry 18th Sep 1914 CRANE, C E Lance Corporal Rifle Brigade 1st Apr 1917 CRANE, C G J Private Queen's Own Royal West Kent Regiment 31st Oct 1942 CRANE, C H Driver Royal Field Artillery 26th Apr 1919 CRANE, C H Private Worcestershire Regiment 6th Aug 1915 CRANE, C H Private Suffolk Regiment 10th Apr 1917 CRANE, C H A Petty Officer Royal Navy 28th Mar 1943 CRANE, C J Master Mercantile Marine 12th May 1918 CRANE, C J Sergeant Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve 26th Jul 1944 CRANE, C R Corporal Australian Infantry, A.I.F 7th Nov 1917 CRANE, C V Private London Regiment 22nd Mar 1918 CRANE, C W Private Royal Army Medical Corps 13th Aug 1915 CRANE, C W Corporal Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve 16th Jun 1944 CRANE, C W R Carpenter's Mate Naval Auxiliary Personnel (M.N.) 5th Nov 1940 CRANE, D Private Lancashire Fusiliers 7th Aug 1915 CRANE, D A Flying Officer Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve 28th Mar 1940 CRANE, D S Private Suffolk Regiment 16th Sep 1916 CRANE, D Y Civilian 19th Dec 1940 CRANE, E Private Middlesex Regiment 7th May 1917 CRANE, E Private Worcestershire Regiment 21st Aug 1916 CRANE, E Private South Wales Borderers 13th Jul 1917 CRANE, E Serjeant Royal Fusiliers 29th Apr 1917 CRANE, E Sapper Royal Engineers 13th Mar 1919 CRANE, E Gunner Royal Artillery 14th Nov 1942 CRANE, E Private Royal Army Ordnance Corps 6th May 1946 CRANE, E Private Northamptonshire Regiment 4th Mar 1917 CRANE, E B Driver Royal Field Artillery 16th Sep 1918 CRANE, E C Able Seaman Royal Navy 19th Dec 1941 CRANE, E E Driver Royal Field Artillery 1st May 1918 CRANE, E E Private Suffolk Regiment 21st Sep 1944 CRANE, E G Gunner Royal Field Artillery 19th Apr 1917 CRANE, E H Private Bedfordshire Regiment 2nd Nov 1918 CRANE, E H Captain Essex Regiment 3rd Dec 1943 CRANE, E J Private Canadian Infantry (Central Ontario Regt.) 30th Sep 1918 CRANE, E J Private Canadian Infantry (Eastern Ontario Regt.) 4th May 1917 CRANE, E J C Civilian 12th Jan 1941 CRANE, E P W Private Australian Infantry, A.I.F 3rd May 1917 CRANE, E S Private Middlesex Regiment 16th Aug 1917 CRANE, E W Rifleman Rifle Brigade 7th Apr 1941 CRANE, E W G Signalman Royal Corps of Signals 5th Sep 1942 CRANE, F Private Australian Infantry, A.I.F 4th Oct 1917 CRANE, F Corporal The Queen's (Royal West Surrey Regt.) 3rd May 1917 CRANE, F Private Suffolk Regiment 30th Sep 1915 CRANE, F Gunner Royal Artillery 21st Feb 1941 CRANE, F Lance Corporal Oxford. and Bucks Light Infantry 12th Jul 1915 CRANE, F Lance Corporal Manchester Regiment 4th Jun 1915

 

Tue, 12 Sep 2000 03:41:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Caoimhghin O Croidheain <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> Subject: [CRYAN] war graves

Name Rank Regiment Date of Death CREGAN, C Private Leinster Regiment 12th Aug 1915 CREGAN, C Private Royal Scots Fusiliers 18th Jun 1915 CREGAN, C A Private Australian Infantry, A.I.F 5th Nov 1916 CREGAN, C T A Private Australian Infantry, A.I.F 27th Aug 1915 CREGAN, D L Rifleman Queen's Own Rifles of Canada, R.C.I.C. 17th Sep 1944 CREGAN, F M Private Devonshire Regiment 28th Jul 1916 CREGAN, J Private Yorkshire Regiment 10th Jul 1916 CREGAN, J E Private Canadian Infantry (Quebec Regt.) 16th Apr 1917 CREGAN, J E Private London Regt (Royal Fusiliers) 19th Sep 1918 CREGAN, J M Signalman Australian Corps of Signals 13th Feb 1945 CREGAN, N G Sub-Lieutenant (A) Royal Naval Volunteer Reserve 11th Oct 1946 CREGAN, P Private Cameronians (Scottish Rifles) 1st Dec 1917 CREGAN, P Able Seaman Royal Naval Volunteer Reserve 23rd May 1915 CREGAN, P Rifleman Royal Irish Rifles 16th Jun 1915 CREGAN, P J Private Leinster Regiment 27th Oct 1915 CREGAN, R C H Rifleman Rifle Brigade 20th Jan 1943

 

Fatarm@aol.com Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 21:47:31 EDT Subject: Re: hi To: caoimhghin@yahoo.com

Yes you did, some time ago, thank you.  And I'm sorry it's taking me so

long to reply lately.  I'm reconstructing my life after that nasty last

year, and I'm just not getting online as much as I should.  I'll do better!  Hope

all is well with you, Leslie

 

Fatarm@aol.com Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 22:01:54 EDT Subject: [CRYAN] Fwd: subscribe

I believe I have received Cryan information before from this group, but have not been able to share in the discussion because I had so little to go on. Now that "Karen" has helped me out in some previous e-mail messages, I have info. on grandfather, great-grandfather and great-great grandfather and mother. I would like any additional information on Michael Cryan and Bridget Foley Cryan (Crien) that anyone might wish to share. Eve has sent me their marriage information from the RC parish registers of Ballaghadereen, which she says is a town on the borders of Counties Rosecommon, Mayo and Sligo. I would like to continue the search. Thank you so much EVE! for the latest puzzle piece. Dottie in Corpus Christi

 

Fatarm@aol.com Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 22:13:37 EDT Subject: Re: [CRYAN] Robert CRYAN

Thank you for checking.  Hope you didn't have to go too far out of your

way.  Too bad you're not a Fox researcher too!  You've done a great job,

thanks.  Leslie

Thomas Crane" <tccrane@peoplepc.com To: <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> Subject: Regarding the "Debt of Honour Register>"

Tue, 12 Sep 2000 20:25:00 -0700

Dear O Croidheain, I saw the above mentioned list on the Cryan rootsweb. I would be interested to know how a person might be able to access the details regarding each name. Reference was made regarding that possibility, but since the information that you forwarded was fixed information that option was not available. You might be interested to know that my great-grandfather's name was Patrick Crehan. He was born in 1844, locale not as yet definitely determined, although I did confirm that he worked as a miner in the Silvermines that are located near Nenagh, Tipperary. He was working there when he married my great-grandmother, Mary Cuddihy (b.1846,d.1910) in August of 1863. Their daughter, also named Mary, was born in Dec. 1864. They immigrated to America in 1866 or 1867 where their other children were born and both Patrick and his sons worked in the various coal fields until they finally settled in Illinois where I located them on the US Census of 1880 as living in Springfield, Illinois. I would be pleased to hear from you as you seem to have gathered some rather interesting information regarding the Cryan, Crean, Crehan, Crane Clan. Best wishes, Thomas Crane

Wed, 13 Sep 2000 04:49:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Caoimhghin O Croidheain <caoimhghin@yahoo.com Subject: [CRYAN] Re: Regarding the "Debt of Honour Register>"

Hi I always enclose the url of the site I have researched so that interested persons can search for themselves. Just click on the site address http://yard.ccta.gov.uk/cwgc/register.nsf and on the site you will see Search the Register. A form will appear and you can put in the name - dont specify by filling in any other fields and a list will be returned. Also if you are new to the list you can see all past emails on my site www.geocities.com/caoimhghin if you are not on the list maybe Leslie could write to you and encourage you to join in the research..... regards caoimhghin

Jill Devito <devito@uta.edu> Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 14:40:27 -0500 Subject: [CRYAN] St. Patrick's Cemetery Burial Records, Lowell

Attention Lowell Cryan researchers:

Here is a new, improved version of the St. Patrick's Cemetery burial

recordsthat Joan Ogg photocopied & I organized by plot groupings.  It contains

notes for everyone I could link together from other sources.

Also, Karen, I was wondering if you might have obits for the family

membersof Thomas Cryan of Bolt Street (Annie M, James J, and Joseph F)?. 

Thanks!Jill

 

St. Patrick's Cemetery Burial Records 1894-1998

 

Yard 3, Lot 21  age              burial date             appx birth              relationship

                Sarah A  29            1/17/05                   b abt 1876             (1st wife of John P.

Cryan)

                John J    0              2/14/01                   b 1901                    (infant son of John

Cryan and Sarah Igo?)

                Margaret                0              11/25/04 b 1904                    (infant

daughter of     "                 "       "  ?)

 

Yard 4, Lot 23

                James    56            12/18/20 b abt 1864             (son of James J.

Cryan & Sarah McMahon)

                Bridget   80            1/7/49                     b abt 1869             (daughter   "

"           "            "           )

                Katherine F           84            2/11/57                   b abt 1873             (daughter

"           "           "            "           )

                John P   65            1/26/40                   b abt 1875             (son of Michael

Cryan & Bridget Foley)

                Sarah B  71            7/14/11                   b abt 1838             (S. McMahon, wife of

James J. Cryan)

                Elizabeth               6              11/11/11 b abt 1905             (daughter of

Alexander T. Cryan??)

                Robert W               29            6/26/56                   b abt 1927             (Korean

War?)

 

Yard 4, Lot 26

                Harriet V 79            4/30/54                   b abt 1875             (listed as

Harriet V., Mrs. - Lowell Directory)

                Vincent  0              4/24/23                   b 1923

 

Yard 5B, Lot 2

                Thomas  74            3/28/37                   b abt 1863             (son of Michael

Cryan, variety store?)

                Julia M   60            6/5/25                     b abt 1865             (wife of Thomas -

see Lowell Directory)

 

Yard 5B, Lot 14

                John       64            2/5/39                     b 1874    (son of James J. Cryan &

Sarah McMahon)

                Anna G  50            4/6/36                     b 1884    (wife of John above; Jill's

g-grandparents)

                James Y 81            2/2/90                     b 1908    (son of John P. Cryan & Anna

O'Reilly)

                Mary K   86            1/8/96                     b abt 1910             (M. Cassidy, wife of

James U. Cryan above)

                Thomas  23            6/18/49                   b 1920    (Lt. T. Cryan KIA WWII Mar

18, 1944)

 

Yard 5B, Lot 31

                Thomas E              62            9/16/34                   b abt 1872

                Delia       79            6/25/54                   b abt 1875

                Bridget   0              11/11/94 b 1894 (?)

                Gertrude 3              10/28/99 b abt 1896

                Madeline               84            12/22/92 b abt 1908

 

Yard 5B, Lot 33

                James J 35            10/22/09 b abt 1874

                Mary A   49            9/14/24                   b abt 1875             (wife of James J -

see Lowell Directory)

 

Yard 5B, Lot 31

                Nellie      2              8/24/07                   b abt 1905

                RosemaryA 85      12/22/79 b abt 1894

                Mary E   0              2/26/94                   b 1894 or 1994?

 

Yard 5C, Lot 8

                Annie M 62            6/30/16                   b abt 1854             (wife of Thomas

Cryan below)

                Thomas  65            4/15/10                   b abt 1855             (son of James Cryan

& Mary Phillip)

                Annie G 92            11/22/72 b abt 1880             (A.J. McGuane, wife

of Alexander T. Cryan)

                James J 27            11/18/08 b abt 1881             (son of Thomas Cryan

and Mary above)

                Alexander T           75            3/27/56                   b abt 1881             (son of

James J. Cryan & Sarah McMahon)

 

Yard 5D, Lot 3

                Michael  50            6/9/99                     b abt 1849             (son of James Cryan

& Mary Phillip)

                Bridget   73            12/20/21 b abt 1848             (B. Foley, wife of

Michael Cryan above)

                Bridget   75            1/16/48                   b abt 1873             (daughter of Michael

Cryan & Bridget Foley)

                Annie     47            11/13/22 b abt 1875             (      "

"           "             "          "     )

                Margaret                82            9/16/59                   b abt 1877             (      "

"           "             "          "     )

                Nellie      58            9/27/39                   b abt 1881             (      "

"           "             "          "     )

                Michael J.              28            5/8/11                     b abt 1883             (son of

"           "             "          "     )

                James    55            1/27/39                   b abt 1884             (son of

"           "             "          "     )

                Nora E    52            9/3/38                     b abt 1886             (daughter of      "

"             "          "     )

 

Yard 5D, Lot 17

                Margaret A            68            2/13/34                   b abt 1866

 

Yard 5E, Lot 40

                Mary       73            8/1/02                     b abt 1829             (wife of Michael

Cryan, variety store?)

                Edward J               83            5/22/45                   b abt 1862             (son of

Michael & Mary above?)

                Annie     75            8/14/43                   b abt 1868             (daughter    "

"        "     ?)

                Mary       95            9/22/83                   b abt 1888

 

Yard 6, Lot 6

                Margaret M            82            4/28/47                   b abt 1865

                Martin     61            3/31/36                   b abt 1875             (of Martin &

Michael, Cryan Bros.?)

                Mary E   25            2/4/20                     b abt 1895

                John       59            11/18/54 b abt 1895

                James    65            6/28/66                   b abt 1901

                Katherine              12            3/29/18                   b abt 1906

 

Yard 6, Lot 25

                Bridget   70            11/20/12 b abt 1842             (B. Leighton, wife

of Timothy Cryan)

                Hannah 56            8/17/20                   b abt 1864             (daughter of Timothy

& Bridget above)

                Mary       56            2/20/25                   b abt 1869             (daughter  "       "

"         "      )

                Annie     88            11/21/62 b abt 1874             (daughter  "       "

"         "      )

Yard --, Lot 63A

                John J    74            2/4/75                     b abt 1901

                Irene       68            3/24/75                   b abt 1907             (wife of John J -

see Lowell Directory)

 

Yard --, Lot 107

                Timothy J               52            5/8/70                     b abt 1918             (son of

Alexander T. Cryan)

                Rita M     12            11/2/35                   b abt 1923             (a.k.a. Rose, dau.

of Alexander T. Cryan?)

 

Yard --, Lot 487

                Thomas E              52            5/26/52                   b abt 1900

 

Yard --, Lot 698

                Joseph F                72            12/26/56 b abt 1884             (son of

Thomas & Annie M. Cryan??)

Thomas Crane" <tccrane@peoplepc.com> | To: <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> Subject: Thanks Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 19:50:39 -0700

Dear Caoimhghin, Thanks for the URL. I intend to search the data. Also, I am already on the list and have communicated with Leslie a number of times. I will search through your past correspondence as it appears that you have some interesting information. Best wishes, Thomas (Crehan) Crane

FamSpack" < > From: "FamSpack" < > | To: "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: hi Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 09:30:49 +0100

Hi , Thanks for your email. No I have not received anything since the 13 Sept. I think that people are mailing each other off the list. I know that there has been a conversation between all the Lowell Cryans , one of which I have had contact with recently. The last email I received through the list was from that conversation. One thing that folk have asked me about, is the Cryan meeting that was to have taken place in about June. Did it ? What Happened ? I am intrigued. Perhaps ,if you have time to write something it could be put in a way that invites response by others and gets the Cryan dialogue started again. Are you still usually at the address in Swords ? I know that you have been away. I have something to send that MAY be of interest and I would like you to get it, and it not spend time chasing from address to address. About my search.....do you know anything about Culleenatreen/Flagford area and the civil parish of Killumnod ? I know you have connections with Croghan which is not far away. I have found a death registered in Carrick-on -Shannon which fits my criteria and may be gggrandpa. When I have finished my current set of films at the LDS I shall look at the parish records in the hope they are not too faded to see........I ought to put this on the list. Until again Eve

FamSpack" < > From: "FamSpack" < > Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 09:36:46 +0100 Subject: [CRYAN] Fw: [IRL-SLIGO] Co. Sligo Web-site

Hi all, You are VERY quiet at the moment !!!!!!!!! This website may be of interest to those who come from the NW of o Sligo. I notice that the writer is interested in the name FARRIS and I know that there are CRYAN/FARRIS links from this area. I hope that this produces something useful Eve

FamSpack" < > From: "FamSpack" < > | Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 09:52:38 +0100

Hi all, The list is so quiet, that I thought this could stimulate some replies - TO THE LIST - and keep the dialogue going. I sent the following in answer to some questions Perhaps others could help to answer the questions and fill in the gaps that I could not. ................. To answer your questions 1 Irish Roots magazine - I have seen issues of it but do not possess any - perhaps you could ask about subscriptions on the CRYAN website. Just send your message/question to CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com . I personally have so much to do that magazines just get in the way and add to our gigantic storage problems. 2 Sligo Abbey - my brother visited the place a years or so ago and brought back a guide with photographs and said the tomb was still there though the Abbey really a Friary is ruined but with walls still standing. 3 As far as I know my CRYAN Family all came to England where I now live.I know all the descendent of those who came to England but can not find where they came from. That is why I am going through the parish records one by one. But thank you so much for the offer of help, it was a kind thought. I will keep it in mind as one never knows. There are other lines that I am persuing that each have one family member who "crossed the pond" - but that is not so interesting as the CRYANs. 4 For John P CRYAN born 1875 son of Bridget and Michael, I wonder had you lookedat the LDS film of Ballaghadereen parish registers that I am sure that I have mentioned before. I only extracted details of CRYANs up to 1870. I am sure that you can find more about your family and about the FOLEY parents and family that I did not even look at. It is also so exciting to look at the original entries even though they are on film.. >From the Irish Indexes to the regitration of Births there are only 2 John CRYANs registered in 1875 John Sligo index number 7.338 John Boyle 9.106.... this is the more likely in 1874 there 4 registered John Tobercurry.........14.529 John Boyle .............14.82 John Boyle ...............19.89 John Boyle ................4.106 Take your pick as none have a second name. I think that I would check the parish registers first before sending for a b irth certificate. 5 Immigration or Naturalisation would seem to be a good start for entry into the USA. However,have you looked at the Ellis Island Website ? You may find something on the "Wall" but I am not sure whether it includes people who went to Boston.i do know that there are CRYANs there. 6 No,I do not have details about mystic wells but I do have a book which gives Holy Wells which were places of pilgrimage in Co Sligo 7 Have you looked a the ARCHIVES of the CRYAN newsgroup as there is lots of stuff there of the type of item 6 that was discussed in the past .............................. DOES ANYONE on the list have the URL for the Group ARCHIVES ? Happy Hunting, until again Eve

 

ariley@ltp.org> From: "A. Riley" <ariley@linux.ltp.org> Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 10:41:11 -0500 Subject: [CRYAN] [CRYAN-L] Mark Cryan/Crane/Crain

Here's an update on our research -- and if anyone has any other clues to add, we'll be grateful! Our ancestor, Atty McDonough Cryan, brought her children (all baptized at Taunagh parish, 1826-1844), to Boston in June 1848 aboard the Epaminondas. We've heard that her brother-in-law Mark Cryan/Crane/Crain, had come to the states earlier. Now we have a little more info on the brother-in-law but not much! According to his gravestone in Eldorado, Wisconsin, in the same cemetery as Atty and many of her children, next to the little church whose land was bought by Atty's son Patrick, Mark Crain was born in 1805, died February 12, 1880, age 75. He was married to Winnifred Lang, who died January 16, 1899, age 66 -- so she was born 1833, quite a bit younger than her husband. They had two daughters who died in childhood: Mary died March 20, 1864, age 7 (so born 1857), and Sarah died March 23, 1864, age 3 (born 1861). Mark and Winnifred had a son Mark who married Nellie Bluitt, an Eldorado neighbor, November 24, 1897. That's what little we know! But that gives us more clues to help us confirm John and Mark's people back in Ireland. Eve on this list and some researchers on the Leitrim Roscommon website have contributed information, and here's what we have. Notice the name Lucas for the the father in these baptisms -- There aren't any Lukes in later generations, and that's what gives me that bit of doubt. But if anyone who has these CDs can confirm a Mark born to Lucas and Winifred Crien, that'll clinch it. -- Here's John's baptism. CRIEN, Joannes Christening Sex: Male Christening Date: 16 May 1804 Recorded in: Roman Catholic, Aghanagh, Sligo, Ireland Father: Lucas CRIEN Mother: Winefrida BRENAN Source: FHL Number 989739 Dates: 1803-1864 -- A brother for John! I wish the first name was there! CRIEN, Christening Sex: Male Christening Date: 11 Apr 1807 Recorded in: Roman Catholic, Aghanagh, Sligo, Ireland Father: Lucas CRIEN Mother: Winifreda BRENAN Source: FHL Number 989739 Dates: 1803-1864 -- Here's Atty's baptism. MC DONOUGH, Aracte Christening Sex: Female Christening Date: 4 Jul 1804 Recorded in: Roman Catholic, Aghanagh, Sligo, Ireland Father: Timotheus MC DONOUGH Mother: Aracte WALSH Source: FHL Number 989739 Dates: 1803-1864 -- A sister for Atty! MC DONAGH, Anna Christening Sex: Female Christening Date: 27 Feb 1817 Recorded in: Roman Catholic, Aghanagh, Sligo, Ireland Father: Timotheus MC DONAGH Mother: Attia WALSH Source: FHL Number 989739 Dates: 1803-1864 -- Here's John & Atty's marriage. CRYAN, Johanem Marriage Wife: Aractam MCDONAGH Marriage Date: 14 Mar 1825 Recorded in: Roman Catholic, Boyle, Roscommon, Ireland Source: FHL Number 989743 Dates: 1792-1863 Thanks for all the help, cousins Another proud descendant of Atty McDonough Cryan A. Riley ariley@ltp.org

 FamSpack" < > From: "FamSpack" < > |   To: "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: hi Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000

Hi , Thanks for your email. No I have not received anything since the 13 Sept. I think that people are mailing each other off the list. I know that there has been a conversation between all the Lowell Cryans , one of which I have had contact with recently. The last email I received through the list was from that conversation. One thing that folk have asked me about, is the Cryan meeting that was to have taken place in about June. Did it ? What Happened ? I am intrigued. Perhaps ,if you have time to write something it could be put in a way that invites response by others and gets the Cryan dialogue started again. Are you still usually at the address in Swords ? I know that you have been away. I have something to send that MAY be of interest and I would like you to get it, and it not spend time chasing from address to address. About my search.....do you know anything about Culleenatreen/Flagford area and the civil parish of Killumnod ? I know you have connections with Croghan which is not far away. I have found a death registered in Carrick-on -Shannon which fits my criteria and may be gggrandpa. When I have finished my current set of films at the LDS I shall look at the parish records in the hope they are not too faded to see........I ought to put this on the list. Until again Eve ----- Original Message ----- From: Caoimhghin O Croidheain <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> To: FamSpack < > Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2000 9:44 AM Subject: hi Hi Eve The list is very quiet at the moment and I think that maybe the problem is my end. Are you gettting mail? caoimhghin

 

FamSpack" < > From: "FamSpack" < > |   Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 09:36:46 +0100 Subject: [CRYAN] Fw: [IRL-SLIGO] Co. Sligo Web-site

Hi all, You are VERY quiet at the moment !!!!!!!!! This website may be of interest to those who come from the NW of o Sligo. I notice that the writer is interested in the name FARRIS and I know that there are CRYAN/FARRIS links from this area. I hope that this produces something useful Eve ----- Original Message ----- From: Brenda Williams <brendapw@lineone.net> To: <IRL-SLIGO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2000 9:06 PM Subject: [IRL-SLIGO] Co. Sligo Web-site Hi List, I would like to invite you to take a look at my web-site that has had a lot added to it - as well as many more in the Kilglass Parish I have now included some births from Easky Parish and Skreen & Dromard Parishes. Also from Castleconnor Parish I have listed some Births and Marriages. This site has a lot of information on it and will continually be added to as I research the Kilglass Parish & surrounding parishes for my family names. Take a look on: http://www.puregolduk.com/bren/kilglass_co_sligo1.htm Brenda researching: FARRIS/HANDLY(HANLEY/HANLY) from Culleens & surrounding area, Co. Sligo. also HEGARTY & KEARNEY originally from Ireland (don't know where yet) FARRIS/HEGARTY in Scotland RHODES/LINDLEY in West Yorkshire, England P.S. I will eventually be including my Scottish & my English family names to the site - along with other names that I collect along the way.

 

FamSpack" < > From: "FamSpack" < > |   Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 09:52:38 +0100 Subject: [CRYAN] Questions - can you help?

Hi all, The list is so quiet, that I thought this could stimulate some replies - TO THE LIST - and keep the dialogue going. I sent the following in answer to some questions Perhaps others could help to answer the questions and fill in the gaps that I could not. ................. To answer your questions 1 Irish Roots magazine - I have seen issues of it but do not possess any - perhaps you could ask about subscriptions on the CRYAN website. Just send your message/question to CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com . I personally have so much to do that magazines just get in the way and add to our gigantic storage problems. 2 Sligo Abbey - my brother visited the place a years or so ago and brought back a guide with photographs and said the tomb was still there though the Abbey really a Friary is ruined but with walls still standing. 3 As far as I know my CRYAN Family all came to England where I now live.I know all the descendent of those who came to England but can not find where they came from. That is why I am going through the parish records one by one. But thank you so much for the offer of help, it was a kind thought. I will keep it in mind as one never knows. There are other lines that I am persuing that each have one family member who "crossed the pond" - but that is not so interesting as the CRYANs. 4 For John P CRYAN born 1875 son of Bridget and Michael, I wonder had you lookedat the LDS film of Ballaghadereen parish registers that I am sure that I have mentioned before. I only extracted details of CRYANs up to 1870. I am sure that you can find more about your family and about the FOLEY parents and family that I did not even look at. It is also so exciting to look at the original entries even though they are on film.. >From the Irish Indexes to the regitration of Births there are only 2 John CRYANs registered in 1875 John Sligo index number 7.338 John Boyle 9.106.... this is the more likely in 1874 there 4 registered John Tobercurry.........14.529 John Boyle .............14.82 John Boyle ...............19.89 John Boyle ................4.106 Take your pick as none have a second name. I think that I would check the parish registers first before sending for a b irth certificate. 5 Immigration or Naturalisation would seem to be a good start for entry into the USA. However,have you looked at the Ellis Island Website ? You may find something on the "Wall" but I am not sure whether it includes people who went to Boston.i do know that there are CRYANs there. 6 No,I do not have details about mystic wells but I do have a book which gives Holy Wells which were places of pilgrimage in Co Sligo 7 Have you looked a the ARCHIVES of the CRYAN newsgroup as there is lots of stuff there of the type of item 6 that was discussed in the past .............................. DOES ANYONE on the list have the URL for the Group ARCHIVES ? Happy Hunting, until again Eve

 

<ariley@ltp.org> From: "A. Riley" <ariley@linux.ltp.org> |   Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 10:41:11 -0500 Subject: [CRYAN] [CRYAN-L] Mark Cryan/Crane/Crain

Here's an update on our research -- and if anyone has any other clues to add, we'll be grateful! Our ancestor, Atty McDonough Cryan, brought her children (all baptized at Taunagh parish, 1826-1844), to Boston in June 1848 aboard the Epaminondas. We've heard that her brother-in-law Mark Cryan/Crane/Crain, had come to the states earlier. Now we have a little more info on the brother-in-law but not much! According to his gravestone in Eldorado, Wisconsin, in the same cemetery as Atty and many of her children, next to the little church whose land was bought by Atty's son Patrick, Mark Crain was born in 1805, died February 12, 1880, age 75. He was married to Winnifred Lang, who died January 16, 1899, age 66 -- so she was born 1833, quite a bit younger than her husband. They had two daughters who died in childhood: Mary died March 20, 1864, age 7 (so born 1857), and Sarah died March 23, 1864, age 3 (born 1861). Mark and Winnifred had a son Mark who married Nellie Bluitt, an Eldorado neighbor, November 24, 1897. That's what little we know! But that gives us more clues to help us confirm John and Mark's people back in Ireland. Eve on this list and some researchers on the Leitrim Roscommon website have contributed information, and here's what we have. Notice the name Lucas for the the father in these baptisms -- There aren't any Lukes in later generations, and that's what gives me that bit of doubt. But if anyone who has these CDs can confirm a Mark born to Lucas and Winifred Crien, that'll clinch it. -- Here's John's baptism. CRIEN, Joannes Christening Sex: Male Christening Date: 16 May 1804 Recorded in: Roman Catholic, Aghanagh, Sligo, Ireland Father: Lucas CRIEN Mother: Winefrida BRENAN Source: FHL Number 989739 Dates: 1803-1864 -- A brother for John! I wish the first name was there! CRIEN, Christening Sex: Male Christening Date: 11 Apr 1807 Recorded in: Roman Catholic, Aghanagh, Sligo, Ireland Father: Lucas CRIEN Mother: Winifreda BRENAN Source: FHL Number 989739 Dates: 1803-1864 -- Here's Atty's baptism. MC DONOUGH, Aracte Christening Sex: Female Christening Date: 4 Jul 1804 Recorded in: Roman Catholic, Aghanagh, Sligo, Ireland Father: Timotheus MC DONOUGH Mother: Aracte WALSH Source: FHL Number 989739 Dates: 1803-1864 -- A sister for Atty! MC DONAGH, Anna Christening Sex: Female Christening Date: 27 Feb 1817 Recorded in: Roman Catholic, Aghanagh, Sligo, Ireland Father: Timotheus MC DONAGH Mother: Attia WALSH Source: FHL Number 989739 Dates: 1803-1864 -- Here's John & Atty's marriage. CRYAN, Johanem Marriage Wife: Aractam MCDONAGH Marriage Date: 14 Mar 1825 Recorded in: Roman Catholic, Boyle, Roscommon, Ireland Source: FHL Number 989743 Dates: 1792-1863 Thanks for all the help, cousins Another proud descendant of Atty McDonough Cryan A. Riley

 

Fatarm@aol.com |   Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 09:44:12 EDT Subject: [CRYAN] Fwd: [IRL-SLIGO] Back from Sligo-O'CREAN Search

Resent-Sender: IRL-SLIGO-L-request@rootsweb.com X-Mailer: Unknown To all, Thanks for all the input I received regarding my trip last weekend to Sligo -especially Jim McDonald, Paul Burns and Kieran Devanny (sorry I missed you at Hargadons for lunch. John & Neal took good care of me though!). All reports I received about Sligo were true to form. From a research standpoint on the O'CREAN's I got a lot of information. Fr. Cunningham (Dominican Friary)gave me excerpts from their forthcoming book on the history of the Abbey and the O'CREAN influence and gave me a VERY personal tour of the Abbey; explaining all the rooms to me. Paul Gunning hooked up with me and brought references from sources I would never have thought of which had incredible detail. By the way, although Paul and I hooked up at Hargadon's, he also gives a walking tour of Sligo for anyone interested. Even the owner of Mullaney's gave me a rundown on O'CREAN property nearby. My personal search took two turns. First, I found a grave in the Abbey which had never been recorded or marked where Capt John Crean erected a stone in 1743 for his father Dominic & mother Mary. This is not the same Capt John Crean of rebellion fame. The curators were very pleased with that. Second, working with the Heritage Center, we found NO records on my great-grandfather's birth or marriage - at least in County Sligo. Theresa was very helpful and we tried every avenue to get some information. This takes this part of my research back to Belfast to check out the 1901 census to see where Ggranddad Patrick lists his place of origin. While I had thought it was SLIGO, I also recall an 82yr old cousin in New Zealand mentioning Dromahair (which is in Leitrim). The search goes on... Thanks again to all. Sean O'Crean

 

Fatarm@aol.com |   Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 09:47:08 EDT Subject: [CRYAN] Fwd: Re: IRL-SLIGO-D (Crean)

Resent-Sender: IRL-SLIGO-L-request@rootsweb.com Sean check out Tipperary My family are Dwyer/Dyer Stonemasons of Tipperary who were evicted and sent to Sligo in Cromwell's time. They finally settled in townland Crummy, parish Kiltubbrid, Leitrim. I think they originally came from Doon, Tipperary. A Crean was a witness to a Dwyer baptism. Check this out...go to Rootsweb.com and search "New England Dyer Connection" When Frank Dyer's page comes up it is mostly of English Dyers but scroll down the first page and you will come to Irish Dyers...Tom Dyer is my cousin. Check out all his baptisms and marriages and you will find Crean in Tipperary.

 

Fatarm@aol.com |   Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 19:39:10 EDT Subject: [CRYAN] Fwd: crean

Sean. I liked the interesting information that i have just read, as regards the Crean family. Why you may ask. Well my G.Grand father was John Crean, his first daughter Jane became my grand mother. John Crean was born in County Kerry, he later joined the army [ 64th at foot] Attained the rank of quarter master sergeant. Served in the Persian Campaign, then the Indian mutiny, then after all that, they arrived in New Zealand. He married in India, Elizabeth George, his age was 32, hers 14. they had 13 children, there second child Jane, became my grand mother. so as you can see i am interested in any Crean history. I haven't yet managed find out who his parents were [ his army records stated it was the Parish of Kilgobban]. Keep up those interesting storeys. Barry Molloy.

 

Fatarm@aol.com |   Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 19:56:25 EDT Subject: [CRYAN] S.Dublin newspaper & request for reading suggestions

I came across this local paper website for S. Dublin.  It includes an

article

about a book describing life in the first part of this century in that

city. 

I thought I'd pass it on in case anyone else might be interested. <A

HREF="http://www.southsidepeople.ie/features.htm#F1">Southside

Features</A> 

or http://www.southsidepeople.ie/features.htm#F1

 

In addition, I just finished the sequel to 'Angela's Ashes', "'Tis" by

Frank McCourt, and was wondering if anyone could point me towards similar

auto- or just plain ole biographies.  I'm trying to get a better understanding

of what life was like during my great Grandmother's early life in Ireland (late

nineteenth century to World War I).  Any suggestions would be welcome. Thanks all, Leslie

 

X-Original-Sender: caoimhghin@yahoo.com Sat Oct 7 00:36:36 2000 Message-ID: <20001007073642.6266.qmail@web2305.mail.yahoo.com>

 

Hi I have done some search on this site but it is not comprehensive so do go through all the links if you have people from theis area. caoimhghin http://www.puregolduk.com/bren/kilglass_co_sligo1.htm Whilst researching my Irish Family, more particularly in the Kilglass Parish, I collected lots of names that were directly connected to them FARRIS James 6 Jan 1867 Car????tenan William FARRIS & Catherine CREAN Austin CREAN & Kitty FARRIS FARRIS Honor 5 Jan 1870 Cloonenmore William FARRIS & Catherine CREAN James MURRAY & Honor McGOWAN FARRIS Charles John 26 April 1873 Cooga William FARRIS & Catherine CREAN Hugh McGOWAN & Anne KENNY FARRIS Michael 23 Jan 1875 Cloonenmore William FARRIS & Catherine CREAN Thomas BARRET & Anne BARRET FARRIS Thomas Tawnalaughta William FARRIS & Catherine CREAN FARRIS Mary Anne 2 Mar 1881 Cooga William FARRIS & Catherine CREAN Charles FARRIS & Thomas CARDEN FARRIS Margaret 25 Jun 1884 Cooga William FARRIS & Catherine CREAN Patrick McGOWAN & Catherine CRYAN http://www.puregolduk.com/bren/kilglass_co_sligo3.htm CARROLL James 29 Mar 1844 - L-Haur ? William CARROLL & Anne GORDON James CREAN & Winifred CREAN CREAN (looks like Inona) 3 June 1872 - Balliogan Andora CREAN & Maria LEONARD Michael GILROY & Maria FLYAN CREAN Margaret 11 Oct 1838 - Balliogan Patrick CREAN & Mary BOURKE William RAFTER & Cecilia CREAN CREAN Anne 17 Feb 1841 - Balliogan Patt CREAN & Mary BOURKE John COGGINS & Mary COGGINS CREAN Mary 29 July 1843 - Balliogan Patt CREAN & Mary BOURKE William BOURKE & Bridget BOURKE CREAN Catherine 8 July 1851 - Balliogan Patt CREAN & Mary BOURKE Michael WEIR & Mary BOURKE CREAN John 27 May 1855 - Balliogan Patrick CREAN & Mary BOURKE James CARTY & Anne RAFTER CREAN Mary 29 Oct 1847 - I - Labite Austin CREAN & Libby HARRISON Patt HARRISON & Margaret MELVIN BATTLE Catherine 26 Oct 1879 Mingnare Michael BATTLE & Winifred CREAN Patrick DONEGAN & Mary CREAN 24 January marriage 1874 BATTLE Michael & Winifred CREAN Manginan/Corbally Thomas BATTLE & Winifred CULLEN 18 February 1871 BEST Michael & Anne CREANE Tournane/Mingware Betty CONMY & Anne BIGLANE 12 February 1861 CREANE Patt & Mary TIMBLIN Kilgannan/Knockbrach John MORAN & Anne TIMBLIN 13 February 1877 DURKAN John & Winifred CREANE Kilgarvin/Mingware James JUDGE & Margaret BARRINS 18 February 1871 EGAN Michael & Winifred CREANE Kilnane Moy/Mingware William GILLESPIE & Mary O'HORA 18 February 1866 KELLY Thomas & Mary CREANE Kilmansholgan/Mingware John GALLAGHER & Mary FOODY 25 Sept 1844 CREAN Patrick & Mary SWEENY Michael EGAN & Anne KILVINE Frankford 25 January 1866 FARRIS William & Catherine CREAN Thomas EGAN & Celia CONMY Culleens/Tawnalaughta

 

RoCryan@aol.com |   Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 22:13:23 EDT Subject: [CRYAN] request for reading suggestions

Hi Leslie, Karen Murphy (Voltene) noted that a Dr. Crean attended  an

ill and

subsquently murded

Bridget Cleary in 1895, Tippareary.  I just received the book through

Amazon.com

THE BURNING OF BRIDGET CLEARY

A True Storyby   Angela BourkeViking

disturbing but certainly  clear in it's dipiction of  late  ninteenth

century life in Ireland.

<S> Rosalie

 

Sun, 8 Oct 2000 00:51:53 PDT From: Karen McElrath <K.McElrath@Queens-Belfast.AC.UK> |   Reply-to: K.McElrath@Queens-Belfast.AC.UK Subject: [CRYAN] Re: reading suggestions

In addition, I just finished the sequel to 'Angela's Ashes', "'Tis" by Frank > McCourt, and was wondering if anyone could point me towards similar auto- or > just plain ole biographies. I'm trying to get a better understanding of what > life was like during my great Grandmother's early life in Ireland (late > nineteenth century to World War I). Any suggestions would be welcome. > > Thanks all, Leslie > leslie: for a fairly thorough list of great books on ireland check out: http://larkspirit.com/bookshop/index2.html cheers, karen

 

FamSpack" < > From: "FamSpack" < > |   Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 10:01:44 +0100 Subject: [CRYAN] Re: [IRL-SLIGO] Back from Sligo-O'CREAN Search

Information from the Index to the National Registers of Ireland All the following are born in or near Belfast ie in Ulster 1867 - Margaret Creen - Downpatrick index number 1.566 Richard Creen - Downpatrick 6.647 male Creen - Downpatrick 11.558 1868 - Archibald Creen - Banbridge 11.233 Arthur Creen -Belfast 16.260 Isabella Creen - Belfast 6.341 1869 James Creen - Downpatrick 11.555 James Creen - Downpatrick 11.555 female Creen - Downpatrick 16.549 1876 Francis Joseph John Cryan - Belfast 11.403 1877 Annie Creen - Banbridge 6.236 Thomas Creen - Belfast 16.278 William Creen - Downpatrick 1.571 1879(3) William Creen - Downpatrick 1.520 (4) Ashley Creen - Banbridge 1.207 1892(3) Stephen Patrick Cryan - Middleton(poss.in Ulster) 4.571 there are also some from Ballyshannon and from Mohill which possibly would serve Drumahair co Leitrim as registry offices NB 1 I have not extracted all the variants of the CRYAN name for all the years, so there may well be others. 2 At this period and at other stages the spelling written depends on the ears of the writer. Ofter names are written phonetically and an accent , as undoubtably all our ancestor had would give a different spelling depending on where they came from and where they happened to be. KEEP AN OPEN MIND AS TO THE SPELLING - how your name is now may be a sheer accident. I have seen in the parish registers CRYAN,CRIEN ,KRIEN, CREAN and even CRION all for the same family. I am pretty sure that it was the possession of documents that fixed the spelling and often became an accident. Prior to that it was "as heard". 3 Place is often a telling locator for a family especially where there are few. Hence the above. Happy hunting Eve ----- Original Message ----- From: Sean Crean <sfcrean@yahoo.com> To: <IRL-SLIGO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2000 11:45 AM Subject: [IRL-SLIGO] Back from Sligo-O'CREAN Search To all, Thanks for all the input I received regarding my trip last weekend to Sligo -especially Jim McDonald, Paul Burns and Kieran Devanny (sorry I missed you at Hargadons for lunch. John & Neal took good care of me though!). All reports I received about Sligo were true to form. From a research standpoint on the O'CREAN's I got a lot of information. Fr. Cunningham (Dominican Friary)gave me excerpts from their forthcoming book on the history of the Abbey and the O'CREAN influence and gave me a VERY personal tour of the Abbey; explaining all the rooms to me. Paul Gunning hooked up with me and brought references from sources I would never have thought of which had incredible detail. By the way, although Paul and I hooked up at Hargadon's, he also gives a walking tour of Sligo for anyone interested. Even the owner of Mullaney's gave me a rundown on O'CREAN property nearby. My personal search took two turns. First, I found a grave in the Abbey which had never been recorded or marked where Capt John Crean erected a stone in 1743 for his father Dominic & mother Mary. This is not the same Capt John Crean of rebellion fame. The curators were very pleased with that. Second, working with the Heritage Center, we found NO records on my great-grandfather's birth or marriage - at least in County Sligo. Theresa was very helpful and we tried every avenue to get some information. This takes this part of my research back to Belfast to check out the 1901 census to see where Ggranddad Patrick lists his place of origin. While I had thought it was SLIGO, I also recall an 82yr old cousin in New Zealand mentioning Dromahair (which is in Leitrim). The search goes on... Thanks again to all. Sean O'Crean

 

Sun, 8 Oct 2000 02:31:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Caoimhghin O Croidheain <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> |   Subject: [CRYAN] hi

Hi I was very interested in your trip to Sligo and was wondering if you could put some more of the information you found on the cryan-list as the cryan/crean researchers would find it very difficult to make a similar journey due to all sorts of constraints. for example do you know the name of the book and when it will be published? and where exactly is the 1743 Crean grave? is it near the o'crean monument or in the grounds? We are all very interested in finding out as much as possible and appreciate very much the work you have done. caoimhghin

 

 

Sun, 8 Oct 2000 02:37:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Caoimhghin O Croidheain <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> |   Subject: [CRYAN] kilglass

Hi I have done some search on this site but it is not comprehensive so do go through all the links if you have people from theis area. caoimhghin http://www.puregolduk.com/bren/kilglass_co_sligo1.htm Whilst researching my Irish Family, more particularly in the Kilglass Parish, I collected lots of names that were directly connected to them FARRIS James 6 Jan 1867 Car????tenan William FARRIS & Catherine CREAN Austin CREAN & Kitty FARRIS FARRIS Honor 5 Jan 1870 Cloonenmore William FARRIS & Catherine CREAN James MURRAY & Honor McGOWAN FARRIS Charles John 26 April 1873 Cooga William FARRIS & Catherine CREAN Hugh McGOWAN & Anne KENNY FARRIS Michael 23 Jan 1875 Cloonenmore William FARRIS & Catherine CREAN Thomas BARRET & Anne BARRET FARRIS Thomas Tawnalaughta William FARRIS & Catherine CREAN FARRIS Mary Anne 2 Mar 1881 Cooga William FARRIS & Catherine CREAN Charles FARRIS & Thomas CARDEN FARRIS Margaret 25 Jun 1884 Cooga William FARRIS & Catherine CREAN Patrick McGOWAN & Catherine CRYAN http://www.puregolduk.com/bren/kilglass_co_sligo3.htm CARROLL James 29 Mar 1844 - L-Haur ? William CARROLL & Anne GORDON James CREAN & Winifred CREAN CREAN (looks like Inona) 3 June 1872 - Balliogan Andora CREAN & Maria LEONARD Michael GILROY & Maria FLYAN CREAN Margaret 11 Oct 1838 - Balliogan Patrick CREAN & Mary BOURKE William RAFTER & Cecilia CREAN CREAN Anne 17 Feb 1841 - Balliogan Patt CREAN & Mary BOURKE John COGGINS & Mary COGGINS CREAN Mary 29 July 1843 - Balliogan Patt CREAN & Mary BOURKE William BOURKE & Bridget BOURKE CREAN Catherine 8 July 1851 - Balliogan Patt CREAN & Mary BOURKE Michael WEIR & Mary BOURKE CREAN John 27 May 1855 - Balliogan Patrick CREAN & Mary BOURKE James CARTY & Anne RAFTER CREAN Mary 29 Oct 1847 - I - Labite Austin CREAN & Libby HARRISON Patt HARRISON & Margaret MELVIN BATTLE Catherine 26 Oct 1879 Mingnare Michael BATTLE & Winifred CREAN Patrick DONEGAN & Mary CREAN 24 January marriage 1874 BATTLE Michael & Winifred CREAN Manginan/Corbally Thomas BATTLE & Winifred CULLEN 18 February 1871 BEST Michael & Anne CREANE Tournane/Mingware Betty CONMY & Anne BIGLANE 12 February 1861 CREANE Patt & Mary TIMBLIN Kilgannan/Knockbrach John MORAN & Anne TIMBLIN 13 February 1877 DURKAN John & Winifred CREANE Kilgarvin/Mingware James JUDGE & Margaret BARRINS 18 February 1871 EGAN Michael & Winifred CREANE Kilnane Moy/Mingware William GILLESPIE & Mary O'HORA 18 February 1866 KELLY Thomas & Mary CREANE Kilmansholgan/Mingware John GALLAGHER & Mary FOODY 25 Sept 1844 CREAN Patrick & Mary SWEENY Michael EGAN & Anne KILVINE Frankford 25 January 1866 FARRIS William & Catherine CREAN Thomas EGAN & Celia CONMY Culleens/Tawnalaughta

 

 

Sun, 8 Oct 2000 02:53:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Caoimhghin O Croidheain <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> |   Subject: [CRYAN] emcry11

Hi I have uploaded the latest collection of emails on my site (emcry11) geocities.com/caoimhghin That is now 670 pages on my computer! Keep up the good work everybody... regards caoimhghin

 

 

From: Cay145@aol.com |   Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 16:20:17 EDT Subject: [CRYAN] interesting site

http://www.moytura.com/sligo.htm

 

This site is very enjoyable to browse through for history and

pictures,etc. 

You've probably already seen it, but I just wanted to point it

out.....in

case......Dottie:)

 

 

Cay145@aol.com |   Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 21:35:46 EDT Subject: [CRYAN] sligo abbey

http://www.heritageireland.ie/en/frontpage.html This site has a small pix of Sligo Abbey. The people that manage the Sligo Tourist site sent this to me after my request to view the O'Crean altar . I assume that the small picture in the middle may be it. Dottie

 

 

Cay145@aol.com |   Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 19:16:40 EDT Subject: [CRYAN] Crean listed on a site here

Hello, http://home.att.net/`labaths/debtors.htm I went to Debtors of Daniel Croghan....after searching for a Green family member of a friend of mine. I found John and Henry Crean. Somebody else has probably mentioned this at one time or another, but just in case....Dottie Here's another one. Irish marriages: site is same except after labaths/irish_marriages.htm CREAN Crean, Judith=Crofton, John Edw. 1780 p. 232

 

Fatarm@aol.com |   Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 16:17:17 EDT Subject: Re: [CRYAN] emcry11

Keep up the good work, Caoimhghin!  Wow! 670 pages is enough for

several

"tomes"!  It's great of you to have put it all up!  -Leslie

 

FamSpack" < > From: "FamSpack" < > | Block address Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 01:11:53 +0100 Subject: [CRYAN] Dominick plus CRYAN variant

Hi all - This may be of interest to some, if it has not already been found..........especially Anthony......... Many times have I said that, one must not have a fixed idea of the spelling of a name in the past one must ................. "listen to the documents speak" Just found in the Griffiths Valuation Survey of about 1860 for Co Sligo Dominick CRINE of Co Sligo....Kilfree parish....Moygara townland....yes this is the spelling Happy hunting to all- Eve

 

 

Voltene@aol.com | Block address Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 21:19:33 EDT Subject: [CRYAN] Lowell(MA) Daily News

A short mention in the Personals ... Lowell Daily News, 28 May 1892 "Among the passengers on the Cunard steamship Scythia, which arrived in Boston this week, was Maggie Cryan, sister of Thomas E. Cryan, formerly compositor on THE NEWS, but now of the Arena. She enjoyed her trip exceedingly." I believe the Thomas E. Cryan mentioned is the son of Michael and Mary (Welch) Cryan. He married Delia Sullivan in 1892. And this Margaret Cryan married John J. O'Connor in 1908 in Lowell. There were three other siblings, Rose (Cryan) O'Sullivan and Joseph F. Cryan and Michael J. Cryan. Karen Murphy

 

 

Tscrya@aol.com | Block address Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 19:36:11 EDT Subject: Re: [CRYAN] Lowell(MA) Daily News

Hi Karen,

 

The Margaret Cryan that this article was written about was my aunt.

 

Thomas E. Cryan was my grandfather.

 

This fills in a little more of the family history that I didn't know

about. I

only knew that my grandfather worked on trolleys for the Eastern Mass

Street

Railway.

 

Thank you for the information.

 

 

Tom Cryan - Lowell, MA

 

 

RSchmidtBa@aol.com | Block address Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 11:00:32 EST Subject: CRYAN

Hi Kevin,

 

I have been doing genealogy for about 10 years but have always stayed

away

from researching several of my wife's Irish families because of the

lack of

documentation. However I recently found a connection in Waterford

(HANNIGAN)

and we have decided to spend some time next fall in Ireland and will do

some

research.

 

One of the names is CRYAN and from the Householder's Index it appears

Roscommon would be the logical place to research. I volunteer at a

Mormon

Family History Center, so I will do as much research as possible using

their

films. But I think parish records are my only real hope and they are

not

filmed.

 

The family is JOHN CRYAN who was married to MARY GROARK before 1854

when

their first child was born in Bloomfield, NJ. Their ages vary on

different

documents, but he was born about 1825 and she about 1835 in Ireland. In

1900

she reportedly came to the US in 1850. His parents were TIMOTHY &

MARGARET

CRYAN.

 

As you can see I have little info on which to start research.

 

Any suggestions you may have would be appreciated.

 

Bob

 

 

Karen McElrath <k.mcelrath@qub.ac.uk> | Block address Reply-to: k.mcelrath@qub.ac.uk Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 16:39:09 +0000 (GMT Standard Time) To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Unidentified subject!

I have just received a new book "In Their Own Words: The Famine in North Connacht, 1845-1849" by Liam Swords, Columba Press, 1999). Has anyone read it? It is about 500 pages, and full of transcribed material from victims and observers (Sligo and Mayo). It is a "heavy read" largely because of the accounts of starvation and disease. I'll make notes of any Cryans as I come across them and forward to the list later. Cheers, Karen

 

 

John Sheerin" <jsheerin@erols.com> | Block address Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 10:43:02 -0500 Subject: [CRYAN] Visiting Ireland!!

Cryan Researchers!!!!

 

I hope this email finds you and your lovely families

all in good health. We are all fine here in Annapolis MD.

 

I must apologize for not re-subscribing any

sooner but time seemed to have gotten away from

me and I been having some problems with my "old"

486 computer. I guess I'll have to buy a new one.

 

We had a great time visiting family and friends in

Ireland.  Meeting Michael Tobin in Galway was great.

We shared a couple of pints together!!!!

 

While in Boyle, Co. Roscommon, my cousin took us

to the Library in Boyle, where we looked through the

1901 Census for Ireland.

We then visited the two Catholic Cemeteries. The old

cemetery is called " Assylin" and across the small dirt

road is the new cemetery. By the way, there is

no one who is responsible for keeping the records on who

is buried in either cemetery, nor anyone who maintains them.

However, there is one gentleman, who opens up the

cemetery for burials.

It's up to the owners of the lots to maintain their own family

grave site, i.e. cutting the grass, etc.  In addition, in the old

cemetery I saw a lot of gravestones that fell on the ground,

some were broken  and if the owners of each lot don't pick

them up, they will remain there until ....

I knew roughly where my G/Grandparents graves should be

located, but could not get there due to the rough terrain and

lack of grave markers.  Also some of the grave markers were "ancient". 

I

saw a  cross made out of two strips of iron as a

grave marker.

After visiting the cemetery we then went to St. Joseph's

Catholic Church in Boyle.  This is the new church, the old

church burnt down years ago and they built the new one on

the same location. My cousin, Kathleen, is a member of

this church and she took us to the office to look at the old

books containing the Baptism, Confirmation, Marriage

Death records.  They were those big ledgers and all the

hand written information from  around 1850 to 1880 were

mostly in Latin, but some were in Irish.  We were

there for 3 hours, then Mass started and we had to

leave the office. I did find some information on my Sheerin

and Brennan family sides that confirmed some of what I

already knew.. We only had that one Saturday afternoon to

do all the research due to family reunions, etc..

 

Besides visiting all around Counties Kerry, Galway and

Roscommon, we drove up to and visited & toured Counties

Mayo, Sligo and Donegal. We fell in love with them and the

people were super. We also drove from Donnegal to Belfast.

We stayed in Belfast City and the people were very nice to us.

After spending a night in Belfast, we left and drove down

the coastline to Dublin. We spent two nights along the way.

The coastline was beautiful and it reminded us of the

Maine and New Hampshire coastline here in the States.

 

We stayed in Dublin 3 nights and it gave me a chance to

visit the GRO there. I spent a full day there looking at

Birth, Marriage and Death records, but didn't get any new

family information.  However, I did confirm some of the

family genealogy data that I do have, but was not successful

with my Cryan side due to time limitations.

 

That's about it for now and forgive me for not getting back

to you any sooner.

Keep in touch,

Jake Sheerin ( grew up in Lowell, MA)

 

PS: I did combine a lot of information on our trip, now all I

have to do is organize it and put in on my "NEW"  computer.

If I come across anything about the Cryans I  will let all know.

 

 

John Sheerin" <jsheerin@erols.com> | Block address Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2000 09:11:08 -0500 Subject: [CRYAN] Cryan Family Information

Cryan Researchers:

This is a follow up to my Saturday,

November 11, 2000 10:43 AM

Subject: Visiting Ireland!!

 

This is what I found on the Cryan family names in

Boyle, Co. Roscommon during our  Ireland trip from

1-21 June 2000.  It will also show the source on where

the information on the Cryan names came from.

 

They are listed in date order by their 1st name,

and any other related information.

 

>From the 1901 Ireland Census of Roscommon,

taken from microfiche at the Boyle Library

on 10 June 2000

 

Tawnytaskin:

John Cryan, age 60, Head of household

Mary, age 52, wife

Bridget, age 18, Daughter

 

 

Cootehall:

Michael Cryan, age 43, Head of household

Bridget, age 43, wife

Jane, age 20, daughter, Dress maker

John, age 17, son

Bridget, age 15, daughter

Patrick, age 14, son

Peter/Roger, age 10, son

Kate, age 7, daughter

Eugene, age 5, son

Thomas/or/James, age 3, son

Leo?, age 1 ½, son

 

 

>From St. Joseph’s Catholic Church in Boyle.

We visited here on Saturday 10 June 2000.

We were allowed to examine several books containing

church records on Births & Baptisms and Marriages.

They were all written in Latin and I am putting the names

down as we interpreted the information!

Here’s what we were able to fine in two hours.

 

BIRTH RECORDS:

 

DATE        --     1st NAME  --    PARENTS

                          AREA WHERE BORN

                          SP = SPONSORS (Godparents)

 

17 AUG 1865 -- John  --  Jacobo Cryan & Honorie Birne

                                           Ballinulta, Boyle

 

14 DEC 1866 --  Jacobus -- John Cryan & Catherine Sline

                                            Qurhcreighin, Boyle

                                      SP-Jacobus Sline & Maria Cryan

                                            (Jacobus Latin for James)

 

07 JUN 1869   Maria Ann --  Peter Cryan & Maria Foley

                                              Chapel St., Boyle

                                            SP-Pat Brennan & Honor

Rourke

 

09 JUN 1869  Johanna --  Michael Cryan & Elenor Brennan

                                             Chapel Lane, Boyle

                                    SP-Michael Connor & Winifred Morris

 

 

If you have any information or questions on the above,

 please let me know

Jake

A. Riley" <ariley@linux.ltp.org> | Block address Subject: [CRYAN] In their own words Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 09:56:43 -0600

I picked up that book last week, too. Terrific work on the compiler's part, but as Karen said, heart-rending reading. One thing I found difficult, however, and more knowledgeable Cryan researchers can clarify this for me, was the place names. He used the names of the electoral divisions and poor law unions, apparently, and I'm used to thinking of the ancestral neighborhood by the name of the Catholic parishes where the ancestors were baptized and married -- Aghanagh, Boyle, and Taunagh. How do these correspond to the places named in _In Their Own Words_? One of the appendices (I think it's the first one -- I don't have the book here with me or I would be more specific) has a list of the names affixed to a petition. There are dozens of Cryans in it, and my family's other connected names as well (McDonough, Walsh, Brennan). I suspect the petition might be from our neighborhood, but can't be sure. The book mentions by name many parish priests (PP after the name) and Catholic curates (CC after the name). Does anyone have the names of the priests and curates of the parishes I named above during those years? That would help us narrow down which of those lists include our ancestors. Another good book I've been reading is _The End of Hidden Ireland_ by Scally. It relates what happened to the people of Ballykilcline, tenants of Major Mahon of Strokestown, Co. Roscommon. Major Mahon was murdered in November 1847 after he evicted many of his tenants. The parish priest may or may not have denounced him from the pulpit just before his death. Sensational stuff. Beautifully researched book. Very readable as well as very informative. A. Riley

 

Thu, 16 Nov 2000 06:40:17 -0800 (PST) From: Sean Crean <sfcrean@yahoo.com> | Block address Subject: Re: [CRYAN] sligo abbey

Caoimhghin, Here are some recent photos from the Abbey that I took. Because of file size I'll send them in sequence. Regards, Seán O'Crean

 

 

Thu, 16 Nov 2000 07:13:21 -0800 (PST) From: Sean Crean <sfcrean@yahoo.com> | Block address Subject: 1743 Head stone

This is the headstone I found during my trip to the Abbey in September which was not on ANY list. An extensive documenting of the stones was conducted a few years back but, this one was missed. It is important for a couple of reasons. First it identifies Dominic Crean who was born a few years before Ann (later Viscount Taffe's wife) who we know was born in O'Crean Castle and was probably the brother of both her and Andrew Crean. The stone was erected by Dominic's eledest son John who was (by Irish naming patterns) named after Dominic's father Captain John Crean of Rebellion fame. Where you see italicized letters (red font), this is my filling in based upon research and sleuthing. The only present "guess" is Mary's maiden name. I believe it is LOFTUS as presently this is the only name that I find that fits (at least with a US ending). Also the O'Crean's married into the Loftus family from time to time. If someone has better info please let me know. Seán F. O'Crean

1743_Head_Stone.doc


Thu, 16 Nov 2000 07:24:27 -0800 (PST) From: Sean Crean <sfcrean@yahoo.com> | Block address Subject: Andrew & Eleanor

This is the interior of the O'Crean Tomb with the stone of Andrew and Eleanor O'Crean dated 1616. If you look carefully, you will see the following. First. You can barely make out a 16 to the left of the crest. The other 16 is to the right, but it is difficult to see here. Second, you can see an AC near the chalice on the left. The "A" is on the left side and the "C" is on the right. Eleanor French's initials are over by the right chalice. The shield is a combination of O'Crean (the left side) and the French Arms (under the upside down "V"). Both are difficult to distinguish. What you can't see in the photo is the family motto enscribed underneath but I assure you it is there. The significance is that this is the earliest representation of our Arms and the first time the motto "COR MUNDUM CREA IN ME DEUS" appears. In fact the whole Psalm 51 verse 10 is present. Of course the Arms are repeated on several other stones that occur in later years. The most recent being on a headstone in Belfast from Patrick Crean's grave in 1918. Seán F. O'Crean

 

Thu, 16 Nov 2000 07:42:28 -0800 (PST) From: Sean Crean <sfcrean@yahoo.com> | Block address Subject: 1743 Stone Location

Caoimhghin, The location of this stone is as follows. As you look at the Rood Screen towards the altar, pass through the arch on the right. Immediately on your right at eye level you will see the stone of Roebuck O'Crean. On the ground, underneath you will find Dominic Crean's stone as depicted in the photo. It's pretty hard to miss which is why I was amazed it had not been identified previously. (I provided this info to the Abbey, but not in the detail as in my previous email. If someone in the area would drop a copy off to them that would be great.) However, I do have a document from (60 years ago - previous family historian) that mentions the stone of a "Captain John Crean of Jamaica and his wife" in Sligo Abbey. The author misstook the stone for being Capt Crean's. It is not. It is his father's erected by Capt. Crean. Seán F. O'Crean

 

: JudyBruce@aol.com | Block address Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 07:56:41 EST Subject: [CRYAN] A Crean book notice

Read Ireland Book Review – Issue 146 - Irish History

 

 

An Unsung Hero: Tom Crean: Antarctic Survivor by Michael Smith 

(Hardback; 25.00 IEP / 30.00 USD / 20.00 UK)

 

Tom Crean ran away from home as a youth and become one of the most

indestructible heroes in Antarctic exploration.  He played a central

role in

the dramatic events on three out of four British expeditions in the

Heroic

Age of Polar exploration.  He served Scott and Shackleton - both bitter

rivals - and outlived them both.  This book reveals how he volunteered

for

Polar exploration, was one of the last to see Scott alive before his

ill-fated expedition reached the South Pole, and how he returned to

bury him

in the snow a month later.  Tom Crean played a leading role in

Shackleton's

legendary 'Endurance' expedition, sailing the small open James Caird

across

the violent Southern Ocean, and in the historic crossing of South

George's

glaciers.  The book is illustrated with photographs.

 

I HAVE ORDERED FROM THIS PLACE AND THEY NOW SEND MONTHLY UPDATES TO

THEIR

CUSTOMER BASE VIA EMAIL. I RECIEVED THIS ONE THIS MORNING AND THOUGHT

IT MAY

BE OF INTEREST TO SOME ON THE LIST. I AM NOT OTHERWISE CONNECTED TO THE

COMPANY. JUST PASSING ON INFO.  Regards, Judy

 

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From:  ljstandak@webtv.net (Lyle Staehnke)  | Block Address | Add to Address Book

Date:   Fri, 22 Dec 2000 14:46:03 -0800 (PST)

Subject:          [CRYAN] RE:Home page

To:       CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

I have made some changes on my home page, updating etc. I`ll enclose

the

new address..  Merry Xmas to everyone...  Lyle

http://community-2.webtv.net/ljstandak/DANIALCRYAN

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Date:  Sun, 07 Jan 2001 10:40:08 -0700

From: janet Samuels <janet.samuels@asu.edu>  | Block Address | Add to Address Book

Subject:        [CRYAN] Cryan in WI

To:      CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

I am looking for more information on a Michael Cryand and Catherine

Mularky.  They married on May 2, 1892 in Brown County, Wisconsin.

Michael lists his father as Joanne Cryan (possibly a misspelling and

should be Johann or John?) and his mother as Nora Lorr (or Porr). He

was

born in Wisconsin.  Catherine Mularky lists her parents as Michael

Mularky and Catherine Kelly.  Catherine lists her birthplace as Ireland

- and I believe that she was born in County Sligo, Ireland.  I believe

that Catherine Mularky is a sister to my ancestor - Patrick Henry

Mularky/Mularkey.  Any help would be appreciated.

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Janet Samuels

From: Fatarm@aol.com  | Block Address | Add to Address Book

Date:  Tue, 9 Jan 2001 16:22:00 EST

Subject:        [CRYAN] Holiday Traditions

To:      CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

(This is late because of my fault -- Tom was on time, just not me!)

Thanks for the chance to share with you and all of the rest of the

Cryan Clan

my Holiday Tradition.  I had grown accustomed to my father always

buying a

big beautiful fresh Christmas tree for us in order to celebrate the

Christmas

season.  Suddenly, the impact of the Second World War was upon us as

there

was a media announcement that the effect of gas rationing might impact

upon

us city folks in that there was a concern that there might be a

shortage of

Christmas trees.  Without sufficient gasoline,  there was a distinct

possibility that the trucks might not be able to supply enough fresh

Christmas trees for the market and the ones that would be available

would

sell at a premium price.  I am not talking about some far away and

distant

Land;  I am speaking about Chicago, Illinois during the war years and

before

the advent of artificial trees.  My father's reaction to all of this

speculation was that, "By hook or by crook, we will have a Christmas

tree." 

He went on to say that, "Even if we have to go out into the country and

chop

down an old mulberry bush, we will have a tree to decorate."  As it

turned

out, the market where we normally bought our Christmas tree had an

abundance,

but they were of a very high price for the times.  During an era when

people

were fortunate to make $50.00 per week, my father spent $10.00 for what

was a

beautiful tree.  As we were hauling it back to be tied to the roof of

our

car, I had the occasion to ask my father what kind of a tree he had in

his

home when he was a boy.  His answer came back to me as a bit of a shock

and

it caused a bit of reflection within myself even though I was just a

young

boy.  What he said was, "We never had a tree."  It suddenly dawned upon

me

why my father always held to the tradition of providing his family with

something that he never when he was young.  His father was a coal

miner, as

was his own father before him, and life in the coal fields was not the

best

for either the miners or their families during the early years of the

20th

Century.  My father is now long past, but I respect everything that I

came to

know about him and the values and traditions that he instilled in me as

I

grew in life.  Especially what a Christmas tree meant to the person who

I

oftentimes simply and affectionately referred to as, "My Old Man." 

Merry

Christmas Everyone!   Thomas Crane

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From: "John Sheerin" <jsheerin@erols.com>  | Block Address | Add to Address Book

Date:  Wed, 10 Jan 2001 16:27:31 -0500

Subject:        [CRYAN] Lowell MA WEB Sites!!

To:      CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

To All Cryan Researchers:

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I was up visiting my relatives in the Lowell MA area and they told me

about two WEB sites in Lowell that I found very handy.

Here they are:

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Obituaries Funeral notices and etc. from the local newspaper-- Lowell

Sun

http://www.lowellsun.com

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The University of MA, Lowell campus is recording Births, Weddings and

Deaths at the following WEB site:

http://libweb.uml.edu/clh/

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Good luck,

Jake Sheerin

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From: "FamSpack" < >  | Block Address | Add to Address Book

Subject:        Re: Looking for answers

Date:  Thu, 15 Feb 2001 15:24:11 -0000

To:      CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Hi Shelly,

I have looked in the British GRO Birth Indexes from which I have

extracted

all the CRYANs and a few variants.

No CRYANs appear to be born in Co Durham until 1860

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The first John is

John Thomas Cryan  born 1870 second quarter in Sunderland index no 10a

612

He appears in the 1881 census as living in 8 Waterworks Road

Bishoprwearmouth with parents James41 born Ireland labourer in

ironworks and

Margaret(nee Tayor) 41 born India

further details can be found at the LDS Family History Centres

worldwide -

they are very helpful

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You say that he emigrated at about the age of 10 in the late 1800s thus

he

was born before 1890

so the only other possibility is

John James Cryan born 1884 fourth quarter in Hartlepool..index number

10a

164

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To obtain these certificated write to the Registrar of the town - most

towns

have a website with information and addresses- giving the details that

you

know. The cost per certificate is £6.50

These are ther only two of the name John Cryan in the indexes.

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I have looked at my other extracts and do not have anyonyone with the

name

MELIA linked with CRYAN

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The health warning is that there are a few CRYNEs in the British

Indexes but

I do not have all of them

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Eve

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----- Original Message -----

From: "Shelly Crynes" <crynesintulsa@home.com>

To: <CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com>

Sent: Friday, February 09, 2001 3:10 AM

Subject: Looking for answers

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I am trying to find information on my husband's family name, Crynes

(was

possibly Cryan before they came to the U.S.).  My husband's

ggrandfather,

John Crynes, was born in Durham County, England in the 1800's and came

to

the US, via Liverpool, when he was about ten in the late 1800's.  He

came

with a woman named Catherine Crynes (Cryans) McComb and her family. 

Her

husband was Scottish, I believe, but both of her parents were Irish. 

It is

believed that most of the family worked in the coal mines and may have

left

England due to being sought after by a rebel group from Ireland.  We

have no

idea who John's parents were.  There are apparently several stories

that

circulated about his birth, but it was always said that both of his

parents

were definitely Irish.  Catherine Crynes McCombs father was also named

John

Crynes and, I believe, that her mother was named Bridget Melia (please

forgive the spelling).  Any help will be greatly appreciated.

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Shelly

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From:  "FamSpack" < >  | Block Address | Add to Address Book

To:       "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>

Subject:          Hi

Date:   Thu, 15 Feb 2001 15:42:08 -0000

Hi Kevin,

Just a note to ask whether you received the mail that I sent at

Christmas .

Was it useful to you?

Eve

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From: "tom and ellen Herron" <tjherron@iu.net>  | Block Address | Add to Address Book

To:      <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>

Subject:        CRYAN article

Date:  Thu, 15 Feb 2001 15:51:45 -0500

Kevin:

 

Can you help me get or purchase a copy of your article on the CRYAN family - the one Jean Rice said was included in a 1998 issue of "IRISH ROOTS"?

 

I'm trying to research my grandfather CREAN/CREANE's family. He emigrated to Canada, twice actually, between 1883 and 1891. The family farm at Ballymitty remained with his brothers until ?1956 - it was definitely still in the family in 1939 when my mother and uncle visited.

 

If this is a duplicative message, I appologize, I was using the original email address Jean Rice posted.

 

Thank you

 

Ellen Herron

Reply-to:       "Shelly Crynes" <crynesintulsa@home.com>

From: "Shelly Crynes" <crynesintulsa@home.com>  | Block Address | Add to Address Book

Subject:        Re: Looking for answers

Date:  Thu, 15 Feb 2001 22:05:48 -0600

Organization:           @Home Network

To:      CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Thanks so much for the information.  I am going to look into it and

hopefully I will find a clue as to who John Crynes really was.  Thanks

so

much

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Shelly

Date:  Fri, 16 Feb 2001 04:08:50 -0800 (PST)

From: Caoimhghin O Croidheain <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>  | Block Address | Add to Address Book

Subject:        Re: CRYAN article

To:      CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

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Hi

Check out my website

geocities.com/caoimhghin

for all past emails on the cryan list since its

inception in Jan 1998 (about 700 pages of cryan and

variants information). including the article you are

looking for. Use search and find for the variant you

are looking for

regards

caoimhghin

let me know your comments and thoughts etc

also there are various people on the list who are

brilliant help eg Eve and Leslie

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Reply-to:       "FamSpack" < >

From: "FamSpack" < >  | Block Address | Add to Address Book

To:      "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>

Subject:        Re: Hi

Date:  Sat, 17 Feb 2001 10:50:37 -0000

Not email - I sent the extracts from the 1901 census (photos of

original

entries) by surface post to the address in Swords

Eve - good luck with the thesis

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From: "stephenmorrison" <stephenmorrison@beeb.net>  | Block Address | Add to Address Book

Subject:        Fw: Mary Ann Cowgrave

Date:  Sun, 18 Feb 2001 12:09:11 -0000

To:      CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

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----- Original Message -----

From: stephenmorrison

To: cryanaj@mail.ecn.net.au

Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2001 10:45 AM

Subject: Mary Ann Cowgrave

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Hello Anthony and Jill  Cryan,

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I have just discovered the email you sent to Kevin Crean in 1998,

referring to my greatgrandmother, Mary Ann Cowgrave.  She was, as you

stated, born in Wexford in 1835,and was married to my greatgrandfather

Stephen Crean, after whom I was named.  My mother had a great affection for

her grandfather.  Do we have a connection?  If so, I do have a few more

details. I have tried to email you at the address you gave at the time

but without success.  Perhaps you are still a subscriber to the Cryan

list.

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Steve

 <!--[endif]>

Stephen Crean Morrison

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From: "stephenmorrison" <stephenmorrison@beeb.net>  | Block Address | Add to Address Book

Subject:        Mary Ann Cowgrave

Date:  Mon, 19 Feb 2001 13:39:01 -0000

To:      CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Dear Thomas Crane, Ratchitt, Listers all,

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In my email re my great-grandmother Mary Ann Cowgrave, my efforts to be

brief only succeeded in being confusing.  Thus, for my sins, I am now

obliged to compose this long and rather boring posting.  As you can see

I am not only lazy, but stupid with it.

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In the 1871 and 1881 Census, Mary Ann was shown as being born in

Wexford, living in Wales, and being married to Stephen Crean who was born in

Bandon in 1831. In 1881 they had six children, three boys and three

girls,  one of whom was my grandmother, Clara. I know very little of the

background of my greatgrandparents, when and where they were married, or

when they died. I hope to rectify this.

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My main interest in Mary Ann is that she appears to be the last of the

Cowgraves. (Yes her name was definitly Cowgrave!).  I have yet to find

another Irish person, past or present, with the same name. On Saturday

last, I was having a look at the interesting and informative website of

Kevin Cryan, (better known as Caoimhghin O Croidheain).  In the surname

search box I typed in Cowgrave, fully expecting the usual, ie" no

matches" reply, when to my delight I got a result. It was the following:

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CREAN EMAILS From  Cryanaj@mail.ecn.net.au  Wed Jan 7

14:08:44 1998 From    "Anthony & Jill Cryan"

 <mailto:crynaja@ecn.net.au>       Organisation:

married to mary ann cowgrave. born 1835 in wexford, ireland.

 <!--[endif]>

I naturally tried to contact Anthony and Jill to find out their

interest in Mary Ann. No luck, my email bounced. My next thought was to put it

on this list hoping they would spot it. Still hoping.

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Those of you who have read this posting so far, and are still awake,

might like to hear a couple of anecdotes which my mother told me about my

greatgrand-parents.  Mary Ann was a devout Catholic and used to invite

the priest into the home, who then chastised Stephen for various

misdemeanours, and called him a lazy old man. He took exception to being

called old, and his reply was to order the priest from the house, roaring

that in Ireland you were a young man until you were seventy. As an old

man he was toothless, and lived on bread, milk and sugar.My mother was

occasionally invited to join the feast. Remember those were hard times.

Ah yes, one other thing, my grand-mother used to tell us that she and

her two sisters, Hannah and Margeret were noted as being the three

prettiest girls in Cork. Well, I used to believe it! 

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I know that this is hardly riveting stuff , but my excuse is that my

great-grandparents' children disappeared, mostly to the USA, and who

knows, perhaps there is someone out there who has heard the same stories.

If so, get in touch.

 <!--[endif]>

Thank you for your patience,

Steve

 <!--[endif]>

Stephen Crean Morrison

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From: "JOSEPH CRYAN" <darkhorse58@msn.com>  | Block Address | Add to Address Book

To:      <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>

Subject:        cryan

Date:  Thu, 22 Feb 2001 18:02:45 -0500

my name is joseph brandon cryan.i live in wilmington ma. usa.my farther is joseph p. cryan he lives in stonham mass. he was born in tondponra kesh county sligo ireland.just wanted to know if we were related also  i might come to ireland in september . how is the weather then?

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Date:  Sun, 4 Mar 2001 22:55:07 PST

From: Karen McElrath <K.McElrath@Queens-Belfast.AC.UK>  | Block Address | Add to Address Book

Reply-to:       K.McElrath@Queens-Belfast.AC.UK

Subject:        brogher, keash, etc.

To:      CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Hello:  I returned today from County Sligo where I spent the weekend. 

I had visited

there several times, however, I only recently learned of the likely

residence of

some of my Cryan ancestors (Brogher townland) and so this visit was my

first to

that region.  I met the priest (Keash or Kesh) but did not have time to

go through

records in his possession.  That search will have to wait until my next

visit - in

May.  The priest did say that although it has been years since a Cryan

has lived in

Brogher, the three-townland region including Brogher, Carrowcrory, and

Derrygolah, was once known informally as "Cryan town" as there were so

many

Cryan families living there.  I also spoke with a local Brogher

resident - a wonderful

man, now in his 90s.  He knew several Cryans and recalls that at least

12 Cryan

families (some of whom he knew were related) lived in Brogher and

Carrowcrory

when he was a child.  He also stated that although Brogher was then

part of Keash

(Kesh) parish, some Brogher residents would often attend mass in

Ballinafad,

simply because that chapel was closer (about 2 miles) than the Keash

chapel

(maybe 3-4 miles).  This information might address Roger's question (in

an email

dated January 2000!) about whether Brogher is/was located in Keash or

Ballinafad/Aghanagh).  And as Michael T. has informed us, Brogher WAS

in the

parish of Drumrat - at least in the mid-1800s, but Drumrat parish no

longer exists. 

The 90-year old and I took a drive (along with my 2-year old daughter!)

as he

insisted on showing me some things.  I was interested in where Brogher

townland

started and Carrowcrory ended, and I asked him this question, to which

he replied,

"right at that tree"!     

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My local "friend" was too "young" to recall my ancestors - who

emigrated in

1858-1859, but he did know about John and Annie Cosgrove Cryan, a

couple who

died quite young as a result of TB.  He showed me where they once

lived.  Their

son, Patrick J. (born early 1900s), emigrated to America, lived in

Swampscott,

Mass., and later in Boston.  I know I am related to this Patrick J.,

because he

attended the funeral of my granny's cousin (Father Edmund O'Keefe), in

1973 (in

Massachusetts).  The 90-year old local recalled that Patrick J. had a

brother -

possibly John or James - who went to England to live.  (Pat Cryans: are

you related

to this line?)        

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On my next visit to Sligo, I hope to meet with a local historian from

Brogher, who is

now about 60-ish.  It is this type of folk, who may provide the bit of

detail about the

people in the area that might help us understand more about our

ancestors' lives. 

I, too, am so interested in dates of birth, death, and marriage and so

thrilled when I

learn of a link.  I think equally about what life must have been like

in the 19th

century.  The 90-year old local recalled dances organised at the

crossroads, circa

1925-30.  Within 7-10 miles of Brogher, lies some beautiful farmland. 

The Brogher

land, however, appears difficult for farming.  I kept wondering what it

must have

been like during the Famine. 

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I visited Templevanny graveyard.  There were SEVERAL unmarked graves,

and I

was told that when descendants were living, they knew exactly where

their

ancestors were buried, thus there was no need to mark the grave.  Also,

some folks

did not have the money to have the stone engraved. 

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The graveyard at Templevanny is at the foot of the Bricklieve

Mountains, the road

to the graveyard can be found a few miles south of the Keash parish

chapel - off

that main road.  The road to the graveyard heads towards the mountain

and is just

north of the road to Ballinafad and Brogher).   It's a beautiful

setting.

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I noted a few Cryans buried here.  The dates, however, were 20th

century only,

despite the fact that the graveyard is considerably older. 

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Separate plots are indicated by *****

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John Cryan died 6 July 1954

Carrowcrory

His spouse, Delia, died 1960

*****

Michael Cryan of Tully

Died 22 June 1910

His spouse, Margaret (?)

Sons:  Thomas died 1917, William 1917, Dan 1927

Bridget Cryan 1978

*****

Patrick Cryan died 31 March 1927

Age 80 years

*****  

John Cryan died 1975 age 58

Brogher

*****

John Cryan died 2 November 1933

His spouse Eillen (correct spelling) died 19 August 1925

Son: Patrick J. died 9 July 1978

Derrygola (correct spelling on gravestone)

*****

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Hope this info helps someone at some stage.  All the best,

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Karen McElrath

Belfast

(formerly USA)

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From: "FamSpack" < >  | Block Address | Add to Address Book

Subject:        James BRENNAN/Mary CRYAN

Date:  Mon, 5 Mar 2001 10:33:52 -0000

To:      CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

.The following appeared in the SLIGO list and looks rather familiar,

could

this be a brother to Jake's Michael BRENNAN ?

Eve

..................................................

Lorraine,

Kilmacteigue Church of Ireland graveyard:

James BRENNAN, Stonepark. Died 28 January 1905 aged 101. His wife Mary

BRENNAN Died 28 February 1900 aged 82. Daughter Mary LUNDY Died 17

March

1897 and her husband Maurice LUNDY Died 28 July 1909.

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Jim McDonald

culrua@iol.ie

.......................................................

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Date:  Mon, 5 Mar 2001 05:51:09 -0800 (PST)

From: Caoimhghin O Croidheain <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>  | Block Address | Add to Address Book

Subject:        Re: cryan, tondponra kesh county sligo

To:      CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Hi

 Can anyone help Joseph?

caoimhghin

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--- JOSEPH CRYAN <darkhorse58@msn.com> wrote: > my

name is joseph brandon cryan.i live in wilmington

> ma. usa.my farther is joseph p. cryan he lives in

> stonham mass. he was born in tondponra kesh county

> sligo ireland.just wanted to know if we were related

> also  i might come to ireland in september . how is

> the weather then?

From: "Michael Tobin" <tobinmi@hotmail.com>  | Block Address | Add to Address Book

Subject:        Re: cryan, tondponra kesh county sligo

Date:  Mon, 05 Mar 2001 23:36:56 -0000

To:      CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Folks,

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Joseph recently got in touch with me. He is a first-cousin of my

grandfather.

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I haven't posted to the list in quite a while, so am reposting a

summary of

my research here for information.

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Mathew Cryan from Tonaponra, Keash, Co. Sligo. His wife was Bridget

Hannon

and they ad at least one child - John (b. approx 1846). John married

Mary

Anne O'Neil and they had 8 children :-

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  John, m. Mary Ann Hannon

  Mary Anne, m. Martin Brennan

  Matthew (emigrated to the USA)

  Michael, m. Margaret Henry

  Martin

  Harry, m. Winifred Farry

  Delia,m. Dan Marquess

  Nora,m. Jack Brennan

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Mary Anne Cryan and Martin Brennan were my great-grandparents and lived

in

the townland of Drumnagranshy, which adjoins Tonaponra.

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I been a little quiet lately on the genealogy front as I've been

concentrating on extending the family tree in a differnt way - my wife

gave

birth to twin girls in December !

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regards

Michael

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Date:  Mon, 5 Mar 2001 22:41:23 PST

From: Karen McElrath <K.McElrath@Queens-Belfast.AC.UK>  | Block Address | Add to Address Book

Reply-to:       K.McElrath@Queens-Belfast.AC.UK

Subject:        Re: Cryans mentioned in book

To:      CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

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The following information is drawn from the book "In Their Own Words:

The Famine

in North Connacht, 1845-1849" (author: Liam Swords, Columba Press,

1999). 

Several Cryans are mentioned in the book.  I've included these passages

as well

as a few other descriptions.

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(page 51)  1 August 1846.  Memorial signed by James O'Hara PP and 173

inhabitants of the parish of Drumrat and Kilshalvey, to the Lord

Lieutenant:

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"that your memorialists have come up cheerfully and peaceably under the

 

great

loss of their former crop of potatoes, and subsisted during this hard

summer

without as yet any government work or food.  And now your memorialists

are totally

run out of the old provision or money to buy it, and have nothing to

feed

themselves or their families, as they have lost their early potatoes by

the rot, and

the stalks of the late crop being blighted.  Your memorialists are in

destitution and

despair and most humbly beg for work."  Signed by several including (x

denotes

illiterate):  Cryan inhabitants James x Cryan, John x Cryan, James

Cryan, Michael

Cryan.  Names to a memorial: Patrick Cryan, John x Cryan, Mathew x

Cryan, James

x Cryan, Denis x Cryan, Roger x Cryan, James x Cryan, John Cryan, John

Cryan

Sr., James Cryan, Andrew Cryan, Martin Cryan, James Cryan, James Cryan

Jr., Patt

Cryan, Roger Cryan, James Cryan, John Cryan, Michael Cryan, Patt Cryan,

John

Cryan, Mathew Cryan, Dominick Cryan, Widow x Cryan, Mathew x Cryan,

Thomas x

Cryan, Michael x Cryan, James x Cryan, Pat x Cryan, Thomas x Cryan,

Michael x

Cryan, James x Cryan, Thomas Cryan, Bartly Cryan, Martin x Cryan, Widow

x

Cryan, John x Cryan.

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(page 168)  9 April, 1847 (Ballymote).  Request from Rev. J. Garrett to

Society of

Friends:  "I have attended upon the distribution of soup and bread to

the relief in

the last week in this parish of 360 families, averaging 6 in every

house and my

family have given out needlework and knitting to a large body of young

women put

off the public works…Our funds are now exhausted.  If you will now help

us we shall

have 9 additional soup kitchens and bakeries in operation in a week and

without

funds we cannot save the lives of the unemployed and starving people."

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(page 181) 14 May 1847.  Petition of 477 able-bodied men of Toomour,

above

seventeen and under fifty years, to Toomour Relief Committee. 

"Petitioners are in

a most deplorable state at present owing to the great distress

existing…beseech the

gentlemen of the committee will take their distress into their

charitable

consideration by granting them present employment on the Knockoconnor

line of

road, to prevent actual starvation in the electoral division of Toomour

and

petitioners and families will every pray as in duty bound."  Cryans

listed on the

petition include:  Patt Cryan, Patt Cryan, Patt Cryan, Patt Cryan,

Thomas Cryan,

John Cryan, James Cryan, Mathew Cryan, James Cryan, Thomas Cryan, Roger

Cryan, John Cryan, Bartly Cryan, John Cryan, Patt Cryan, James Cryan

Sr., James

Cryan Jr., Patt Cryan Sr., Patt Cryan Jr., Patt Cryan red, Dominick

Cryan, Michael

Cryan, John Cryan, Mathew Cryan, Martin Cryan, James Cryan, Michael

Cryan,

Michael Cryan, Patt Cryan, Martin Cryan, James Cryan, Peter Cryan,

Michael

Cryan, Bartly Cryan, James Cryan, John Cryan, Martin Cryan, James Cryan

D, Patt

Cryan, Thomas Cryan.   

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Winter 1847-1848 (page 160).  Keash.  18 December.  Abby Fleming to

Society of

Friends:  "Never was relief more needed than the last, no never were

applications

more numerous than at present…The destitution is most heartrending in

the

extreme, the haggard, emaciated, miserable appearance of the applicants

is truly

appalling.  Many hundreds of these are subsisting on turnips often

uncooked." 

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Winter 1848-1849 (page 356).  Keash.  22 November.  "Sworn statement of

Richard

Fleming, poor rate collector of Toomour electoral division":  'having

been

threatened in a very violent manner by a large crowd of persons at

Templevanny

and Brogher, 50 to 60 in number, armed with sticks and stones, on 1

November,

not to attempt to collect or destrain for the rates, that they would

take his life.' 

 <!--[endif]>

Passages also state that if one had 1t2 to two acres of land - even if

the land was

'unproductive,' those persons were not entitled to 'poorhouse relief'

(page 323).  

 <!--[endif]>

Anyone searching for "missing" female ancestors from this region should

note that

the author describes the situation whereby beginning in 1848, several

female

orphans between the ages of 14 and 18 who resided in workhouses were

sent to

Australia.

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Karen McElrath

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From: "Peter Cryans" <Petercryans@btinternet.com>  | Block Address | Add to Address Book

To:      <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>

Subject:        Cryan Database

Date:  Sun, 18 Mar 2001 21:20:37 -0000

Hi Kevin,

I was just reading on the Leitrim/Roscommon website that you had a database on the Cryan surname. I wondered if it was available online and if so what the url is?

I'd be delighted if you found the time to reply.

Many thanks

Peter Cryans

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From: Fatarm@aol.com  | Block Address | Add to Address Book

Date:  Tue, 20 Mar 2001 12:48:31 EST

Subject:        O'Crean to Crane -- any connections?

To:      CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

I recently received the following email (and have signed this gentleman

up to

the list so that he may participate in the search):  Connection,

anyone?

- - - - - - - - -

I am looking for relatives anywhere.  My father was born in

Philadelphia,

PA, USA in 1903, son of very recent Irish immigrants named O'Crean

(since

changed to Crane).

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Thank you

 <!--[endif]>

Bill Crane

San Deigo, CA, USA

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From: "Thomas Crane" <tccrane@peoplepc.com>  | Block Address | Add to Address Book

Subject:        O'Creans from Philadelphia

Date:  Tue, 20 Mar 2001 14:20:58 -0800

To:      CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

I would be happy to receive information regarding O'Crean/Crane from

Bill Crane of San Deigo, CA.  For some strange reason, I have an affinity

for Creans from anywhere.  Ordinarily they seem to be pretty nice

people.   Best wishes to All,  Tom Crane

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Date:  Tue, 20 Mar 2001 19:16:13 PST

From: Karen McElrath <K.McElrath@Queens-Belfast.AC.UK>  | Block Address | Add to Address Book

Reply-to:       K.McElrath@Queens-Belfast.AC.UK

Subject:        Re: O'Crean to Crane -- any connections?

To:      CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

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 <!--[endif]>

 <!--[endif]>

On Tue, 20 Mar 2001 12:48:31 EST Fatarm@aol.com wrote:

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> From:Fatarm@aol.com> Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 12:48:31 EST

> Subject: O'Crean to Crane -- any connections?

> To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

>

> I recently received the following email (and have signed this

gentleman up to

> the list so that he may participate in the search):  Connection,

anyone?

> - - - - - - - - -

> I am looking for relatives anywhere.  My father was born in

Philadelphia,

> PA, USA in 1903, son of very recent Irish immigrants named O'Crean

(since

> changed to Crane).

>

> Thank you

>

> Bill Crane

> San Deigo, CA, USA

>

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 <!--[endif]>

hiya:  would very much appreciate bill's email address.  or perhaps you

can send

him mine.  some of my cryan ancestors lived in philly at that time. 

also, one

person in my cryan (philly) line changed the spelling (or someone did

it for him) to

crain. 

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 <!--[endif]>

many thanks, karen

 <!--[endif]>

 <!--[endif]>

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Reply-to:       "FamSpack" < >

From: "FamSpack" < >  | Block Address | Add to Address Book

Subject:        Derrygolagh/Derryvolagh

Date:  Sat, 31 Mar 2001 00:40:11 +0100

To:      CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Pat Cryans has recently been asking about the CRYANs and the HENRYs of

Derryvolagh (as written in the Keash Parish Register)

This may therefore be of interest - a list of the landholders in the

townland of Derryvolaghfrom the Griffiths Valuation Survey of 1858

(sorry

that there is no individual acreage.

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Patrick Dignan

Matthew Cryan

Timothy Duffy

Thomas Cryan

John Scanlon

James Dolan

Patrick Horan

James Cryan(Strong)

Michael Madden

Thomas Cryan

John Henry

James Henry - leased from John Henry - all the above leased from

Viscount

Lorton

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Shared acreage of 78 acres leased from Viscount Lorton

Thomas Mulvany

Patrick Cryan(Gildea)

John Mulvany

James Cryan (Jack)

Thomas M'Gowan

Thomas Jordan

Luke M'Gowan

Patrick Lydon

Patrick Cryan(Ruadh)

John M'Donagh(Tailor)

unoccupied

James Killoran leased from John M'Donagh

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The names in brackets are to distinguish between individuals of the

same

name, thus two plots with the same name probably mean one individual

holds

the two plots.

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Could Thomas HENRY be a child of one of the HENRYs here?

It looks as though this John HENRY is father to Catherine born 1854

whose

mother is Maria HIGGINS of the information that I gave from the parish

registers.

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Eve

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Date:  Mon, 2 Apr 2001 03:47:25 -0700 (PDT)

From: Caoimhghin O Croidheain <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>  | Block Address | Add to Address Book

Subject:        Dublin City Directory 1850

To:      CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Dublin City Directory 1850

 <!--[endif]>

http://www.loughman.dna.ie/dublin1850/xdubdir17.html

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Crean

John Joseph B., 13 Portland place (Esq.)

Mary, 29 Portland place (occup not listed)

From the Law Directory (not listed at stated address)

Austin F., 132 Lower Gloucester St (solicitor)-address

listed as vacant

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caoimhghin

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From: Fatarm@aol.com  Date:     Mon, 9 Apr 2001 13:35:16 EDT

Subject:        Thank you, Eve and Caoimhghin

To:      CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

For your recent posts.  You're inspiring me to get back to the

business!  I

really enjoy reading about these scattered references to Cryans, et al. 

Next

time I get a free couple of hours I'm heading to a library to see if I

can

find any cousins in dusty old directories ... anyone else for a

looksee? 

-Leslie

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Reply-to:       "FamSpack" < >

From: "FamSpack" < >  

Subject:        More Cryans

Date:  Tue, 10 Apr 2001 09:58:23 +0100

To:      CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Hi,

I do not know how many of you subscribe to the SLIGO list but they have

a

project to transcribe the 1901 census for Co Sligo.

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As you know ,I have been involved in transcribing the 1901 census for

Co

Roscommon for the Leitrim and Roscommon website

http://www.leitrim-roscommon.com .We are now extending into our area

(Keash,

Gurteen etc) of Co Sligo, eventually to include the rest of the Boyle

PLU.(and we are co-operating with the Sligo list about this)

 <!--[endif]>

The Boyle PLU eventually became almost the same as the Boyle

registration

district - it straddles the border between the two counties and gives

rise

to homeland anomolies . eg some folk find relatives in the indexes as

Boyle

registered and believe they were born in Co Roscommon where in reality

it is

Co Sligo nearby. Others know that it is Co Sligo and can not believe

that

their relatives were registered in Co Roscommon.

 <!--[endif]>

I also notice that the 1901 census is gradually expanding on the L-R

site to

include Co Mayo ,Co Galway, Co Limerick and others.

 <!--[endif]>

 <!--[endif]>

JUST A WORD OF WARNING - I receive SPAM ,despite a filter, from time to

time.  I am horrified by those missives that say in very persuasive

terms -

give us your data and we will SELL it back to you at reduced costs.  I

do

hope that you just DELETE it and DO NOT REPLY, even to deregister as

that

acknowledges that you are you and have received the message.

This is another reason for not putting too much personal stuff on open

access on a website.

 <!--[endif]>

But then you are CRYANs and all wise enough   !

 <!--[endif]>

Eve

Date:  Fri, 13 Apr 2001 23:05:29 PDT

From: Karen McElrath <K.McElrath@Queens-Belfast.AC.UK>  Reply-to:  K.McElrath@Queens-Belfast.AC.UK

Subject:        Re: Eve's family queries

To:      CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

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like eve, i too am interested in the john cryan who was transported to

australia. 

after reading the book, "The Great Shame", i realize that he might have

left

decendants in both ireland and in australia.  if anyone comes across

more

information about him, please let us know. happy easter, karen

 <!--[endif]>

Date:  Wed, 18 Apr 2001 12:22:18 +0100 (BST)

From: Caoimhghin O Croidheain <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>  Subject:      *New* old Cryan grave found!

To:      CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Hi

I was in Ardcarn Cemetery near Boyle to see  the

famine memorial which was erected recently. I had been

in the old graveyard before but it hadnt been

surveyed. Now there is a display board with index and

map. I saw Cryan in the index and found the grave

which was very old and difficult  to read in parts. It

is a large slab lying horizontal. I think the stone

had not been read before as there was a lot of moss

and as I cleared it off I found more and  more names.

The following is what I could make out:

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Lord have mercy on the soul of Danl. Cryan who

departed this life on the 24 th of Dec 1816? aged 76

years. This stone was erected by his dutiful son Robt

Cryan of Boyle.

Mathilda? Cryan  ... of Robert Cryan dep. July 1821?

aged  ... years.

Robert Cryan died 11 July 1833 aged 60 years.

Peter Cryan MD departed this life 5 April 1871 aged 76

years

 <!--[endif]>

Please let me know if you can elaborate on any of this

info. Was Dr Peter Cryan not buried in Glasnevin in

Dublin?

 <!--[endif]>

regards caoimhghin

 <!--[endif]>

 <!--[endif]>

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Reply-to:        "FamSpack" < >

From:  "FamSpack" < >  | Block Address | Add to Address Book

To:       "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>

Subject:          Fw: Eve's family queries

Date:   Thu, 19 Apr 2001 10:57:11 +0100

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----- Original Message -----

From: "FamSpack" < >

To: <CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com>

Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2001 12:41 PM

Subject: Eve's family queries

 <!--[endif]>

 <!--[endif]>

I am still looking for and doggedly going through the Parish Registers

for

my family. I know not where they came from - John CRYAN  born before

1823

and children

John CRYAN born abt 1844 died 1886 of TB

Daniel CRYAN born abt 1844 d 1882 of a wound

Michael CRYAN born 1854/5 d 1884 of TB single

Margaret CRYAN born 1857/8 d 1879 of TB single

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All worked in the tobacco industry in Liverpool.

John and Daniel's families did not have TB so I suspect it was

introduced

into the household of John with the arrival of Michael and Margaret in

about

1875/6. No children were born of the family after that date.

 <!--[endif]>

There are hundreds of John CRYANs so I am concentrating on the name

Daniel

linked with John as it is a very unusual CRYAN name

 <!--[endif]>

I have records of all the well known Daniels including

Daniel CRYAN m Margaret McDonogh and the Scottish and Canadian /USA

connections Quite a few stayed in Scotland and I have them on the 1881

census

Daniel CRYAN m Mary BREHANY on 3 March 1842 in Keash - could possibly

be a

candidate for brother of my John born before 1823 - witness at marriage

was

John CRYAN

Daniel CRYAN born 1842 parents John CRYAN and Catherine GILDEA (they

also

had a son John born 1837) - if no other possibilities, these could be

strong

candidates and all the dates on my certificates are wrong. However

there is

no Michael or Margaret of even vaguely the correct age in the family.

 <!--[endif]>

I would dearly love to know more about the John CRYAN b about 1820 who

appears on the Transportation to Australia site. He was convicted in

1848

and sentence to 7 years - it fits with the dates of birth of the known

children.

 <!--[endif]>

Has anyone anything new?...........please

 <!--[endif]>

I hope that you all have a very Happy and Holy Easter,and feel renewed

and

refreshed in all that you do..

 <!--[endif]>

Eve

 Reply-to:      "FamSpack" < >

From: "FamSpack" < >  | Block Address | Add to Address Book

Subject:        Ardcarn Graves

Date:  Thu, 19 Apr 2001 13:13:38 +0100

To:      CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Hi,

Putting in your data with what I have gleaned over the years......and

yes

thank you , another Daniel !!!!!!

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Descendants of Daniel Cryan

 <!--[endif]>

 1   Daniel Cryan Abt. 1740 - 1816 b: Abt. 1740  d: December 24, 1816

in

buried - Ardcarn nr Boyle

......... 2   [1] Robert Cryan Abt. 1773 - 1833 b: Abt. 1773  d: July

11,

1833

.............  +Matilda 'Little' Lytle Bef. 1775 - 1821 b: Bef. 1775 m:

Abt.

1793 d: July 1821 in gravestone Ardcarn Cemetery nr Boyle

.................... 3   Joannes Cryan 1794 - b: August 28, 1794

........................  +Johanna Murren Bef. 1799 - b: Bef. 1799 m:

Abt.

1819

............................... 4   Robertus Cryan 1820 - b: November

1820

.................... 3   Peter Cryan Abt. 1795 - 1871 b: Abt. 1795  d:

April

5, 1871 in gravestone Ardcarn Cemetery nr Boyle

.................... 3   Brigida Cryan 1805 - b: April 1805 in Boyle RC

Co

Roscommon

.........  *2nd Wife of [1] Robert Cryan:

.............  +Maria Anna Ford Bef. 1806 - b: Bef. 1806 m: February

24,

1824 in Boyle RC Co Roscommon

.................... 3   Robertus Cryan 1825 - b: January 1825 in Boyle

RC

.................... 3   Brigida Cryan 1826 - b: October 1826 in Boyle

RC

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I also have

Descendants of Johanna Murren

 <!--[endif]>

 1   [1] Johanna Murren Bef. 1799 - b: Bef. 1799

..  +Robertus(poss Johannis) Cryan Bef. 1799 - b: Bef. 1799 m: Abt.

1817

......... 2   Patricius Cryan 1818 - b: February 1818 in Boyle

  *2nd Husband of [1] Johanna Murren:

..  +Joannes Cryan 1794 - b: August 28, 1794 m: Abt. 1819

......... 2   Robertus Cryan 1820 - b: November 1820

 <!--[endif]>

where I think that Robertus(poss Johannes) is a priest's error from the

PRs

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NOTE

1.  I have the christening dates of most of these but as it is an

automatic

copy of a storage program these have not been printed. To check these

look

in the LDS VS

2.  I also have several possibilities for the families of the offspring

but

these are not given as there is no evidence

3.  The above information was substantiated by some extracts from court

documents(if I remember correctly) that Caoimhghin put on the site ages

ago.

 <!--[endif]>

 <!--[endif]>

If anyone is going to the National Archives in Dublin, pleeeeease could

they

look up John Cryan b 1820 convicted in 1848 to transportation for 7

years on

the ship the LONDON

 <!--[endif]>

Eve

 <!--[endif]>

From: Melodi609@cs.com  | Block Address | Add to Address Book

Date:  Thu, 19 Apr 2001 14:41:22 EDT

Subject:        Re: CRYAN-D Digest V01 #18

To:      CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Thank you for the message .

These are our Crain/ Crane/ Crehan

William Crane left Ireland , 1819 was in the census of Carleton , Co.

New

Brunswick , Can.age 54 .  William ,rightly or wrongly spelled it so .

His son

 John used Crain and a priest spelled it Crehan once. William was

married to

Lucy /Levenia Smith , a Baptist at the baptism of the children , all in

1839

except one in 40. Those are recorded at St. Bruno's Catholic Church in

Van

Buren Maine ,probably the priest was a missionary.

there are so many variations to the name that Cryan  is possible

The names of William and Lucy's children were  that John , Michael,

James ,

William  and Richard.

There was a Lawrence Crane who was the godfather of one of John's

daughters,

Delia Bridget who md James Mahany (Mahony it is  in Ireland)

michael md Elizabeth Duly ;James mdMary Reilly of Johnsville N.B.

richard md

hanna Donnelly ;Lizzie md John Allen Mc Donald; William md Mary Murphy;

Mary

Ann  a spinster;Susan died young ; Lavina md  Richard Murphy.

Lucy /Lavinia  Smith Crane had Siblings:George, and Botsford Smith of

Fort

Fairfield .,Maine USA; Hepsy Smith.

If possible could you forward this information .

The names you showed don't appear to relate.to ours , but they will be

found

eventually .

A matter of time . That was my first hangup in genealogy and remains

so.

My husband's grandmother , Mary Ann Crain md Melvin Henry Williams  in

New

Brunswick , (either records are at St Gabriel's or St John  the

Evangelist

Catholic church , Bath , Woodstock , Johnsville, Jacksontown in the

Miramichi

region ) Several of these persons are bd. at Clearview Catholic

Cemetery in

New Brunswick , tho many lived as Crane/ Crain in Easton , Maine across

the

river. there is a small Catholic Church there, abandoned but kept up

Thanking you , Mrs Melvin Louis Williams  (Odile)

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Date:  Sat, 21 Apr 2001 16:40:23 PDT

From: Karen McElrath <K.McElrath@Queens-Belfast.AC.UK>  | Block Address | Add to Address Book

Reply-to:       K.McElrath@Queens-Belfast.AC.UK

Subject:        Re: book: diocese of elphin

To:      CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

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Source:  "Read Ireland" Information List (from Karen)

Book:  The Diocese of Elphin: People, Places and Pilgrimage edited by

Francis

Beirne Hardback; 30.00 IEP / 41.50 USD / 17.50 UK; Columba; 403 pages,

with b/w

photos

 

"This book outlines the history of the Diocese of Elphin from Patrician

times

until the end of the second millennium.  It is a compendium of

historical

detail on the thirty-eight parishes on the clergy and religious, and on

a

host of other aspects of the life of the diocese.  The extensive

bibliography will be a treasure trove for historians, researchers,

students

and everyone interested in Irish ecclesiastical history.  The Diocese

of

Elphin stretches from the bridge of Athlone to the bridge of Bunduff on

the

outskirts of Bundoran, and includes parts of Roscommon, Sligo and

Galway." 

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Date:  Mon, 23 Apr 2001 10:36:01 +0100 (BST)

From: Caoimhghin O Croidheain <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>  | Block Address | Add to Address Book

Subject:        Leaflet and Roscommon Herald microfilm

To:      CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Hello everybody

I am slowly getting back into the family history

research after some moonths break. I am sending a

leaflet to around 70 Cryans in Ireland (copy below for

those interested in doing something similar with their

name variant)

Secondly I am going back to the Nat. LIbrary  to

continue reading the Roscommon Herald for Cryan and

variants  mentions, obits and stories. I have already

done 1888, 1889, and part of 1890 The notes have

partly been put on the List. I am now getting the

obits and stories (but not the mentions) copied from

the microfilm and am appealing to others for help in

putting the stories on the LIst. I can send the p/c to

whoever feels like transcribing/scanning the stories.

There isnt a huge amount of work. In 1888 there were

around 10 stories, mostly short.

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Regards

Caoimhghin

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***************************************************

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Cryan Family History

Kevin Cryan (Caoimhghin O Croidheain)

email: caoimhghin@yahoo.com

website: geocities.com/caoimhghin

44 St. Columba's Rise, Swords, Co. Dublin

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The CRYAN-LIST on rootsweb.com is a great source of

information for Cryan researchers. Since early 1998

the List has been managed by Leslie Poche. For those

who are newcomers to the List and would like to find

out the contents of previous emails,  the  CRYAN-LIST

files for researchers on my website:

geocities.com/caoimhghin contain 95% of all the emails

posted since Leslie set up the List and come to around

700 pages of information in total. Remember the

CRYAN-LIST contains much information on many variants

of the O Croidheain surname: Croidheain,

Craigen/Creighan, Crawn/Craun, Crane, Crean, Craen,

Creen-e, Cre(a)g(h)an, Cre(a)han, Cro(u)ghan, Crain-e,

MacCroghan/McCrohan, Crowen, Cryan-s, Crion, Creyon,

Krine, Crine, Cryne, Crehen, Craheen

Copy the files into a Word document and use the Search

and Find command to find the surname variant you are

researching. Happy hunting!!

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I have researched the history of my own branch of the

Cryan family using resources in the National Library,

the National Archives, the Registry of Births,

Marriages and Deaths, Registry of Deeds, Military

Archives, Roscommon and Kerry County Libraries among

others.

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My great great grandfather, John Cryan, married

Margaret Dolan in Boyle, Co. Roscommon in 1858 and

spent his life in Croghan, about 5 miles south of

Boyle, working as a National School teacher (where he

is still remembered as Master Cryan) until his death

in 1906. From his age on his Death Certificate I

believe he was born around 1833 and a reference to a

family who had a son, John, at that time has been

found. This was a couple, John Cryan and Catherine

Drury, who married in 1829 in Croghan and had three

sons John (b.1833 in Boyle), James (b.1842 in Boyle)

and Patrick (b.1831 in Croghan). I do not know what

happened to Patrick and James. Does this information

sound familiar to you? Have you ever heard talk of a

Master Cryan in your family? Maybe these names have

been passed down through the generations as they have

in my family. Please let me know.

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Early History

According to E. MacLysaght (Irish Families)

(O)Cryan,Crynes are Co. Roscommon versions of Crean -

"O Crean,Crehan - According to MacFirbis, O Crean and

O Cregan are synonymous, Crehan being a variant of

Crean. In Irish Crean and Crehan are O Croidheain

(spelt O Craidhen by the Four Masters) ... These

families formed a minor sept of the Cineal Eoghan

belonging to Donegal, with a branch in the

neighbouring county of Sligo. They are twice mentioned

by the four Masters as wealthy merchants, ... in 1506

as of Donegal; in 1572 as of Sligo. The Clongowes

manuscript gives them a higher status : the then head

of the family was John O Crean of Ballynegare, and

inanother place in the manuscript O Crean of Annagh is

stated to have been one of the leading families of Co.

Sligo in the sixteenth century. According to the

"Annals of Loch Ce" the Bishop of Elphin in 1582 was

an O Crean, but he was "removed" in 1584. Father

Daniel O Crean (d. c. 1616) of Holy Cross, Sligo was

Provincial of the Dominican order in a period of

intensive persecution."

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Research Centres, Sites and References

There are references to the early Creans in Mary O

Dowd's book "Power, Politics and Land: Early Modern

Sligo 1568-1688"; M. Woodmartin's "History of Sligo"

and T. O Rourke's "History of Sligo - Town and

County".

If you would like to find out more about your own

family write to either The Sligo Heritage and

Genealogical Centre, Stephens St., Sligo or The

Roscommon Heritage and Genealogical Centre,

Strokestown, Co. Roscommon.

For a good general book on Irish genealogical

resources see John Grenham's Tracing your Irish

Ancestors, 2nd edition (Dublin, Gill & Macmillan 1992,

Baltimore, Genealogical Publishing Co., 1993)

 <!--[endif]>

 <!--[endif]>

From: Karen McElrath <k.mcelrath@qub.ac.uk>  | Block Address | Add to Address Book

Reply-to:       k.mcelrath@qub.ac.uk

To:      Caoimhghin O Croidheain <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>

Subject:        Re: Leaflet and Roscommon Herald microfilm

Date:  Mon, 23 Apr 2001 11:38:13 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time)

 <!--[endif]>

Caoimhghin:  i'd be happy to help you.  just let me know how.  i now

have a scanner but need to figure out how to scan documents

for html (as it stands, rootsweb does not accept attachments). 

i will ask folks at this end how to scan for html, if you want

me to help in this manner.  Karen

Date:  Tue, 24 Apr 2001 12:15:57 +0100

Subject:        Roscommon Herald microfilm

From: Pat Hunt <pathunt@indigo.ie>  | Block Address | Add to Address Book

To:      Caoimhghin O Croidheain <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>

Hi Caoimhghin

 <!--[endif]>

    I had a go at the Roscommon Herald for the years 1904 and 1905.

Unfortunately my eyes could not tolerate the strain. The quality is

terrible, I just kept seeing spots rather than print.

 <!--[endif]>

    My Master Thomas Cryan of Townabrack died on 15 September 1905. If

you

come across any reference to his when you get to that year. I could

find no

reference to his death, although the deaths of 'Masters' seemed to get

the

same status as that of a priest. I know Cryan lived in Co Sligo but the

Herald was always the paper of choice in that part of Sligo - proximity

to

Boyle, I guess was the reason.

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    Best wishes,

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    Pat Hunt

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From: Fatarm@aol.com  | Block Address | Add to Address Book

Date:  Tue, 24 Apr 2001 13:26:17 EDT

Subject:        Re: Leaflet and Roscommon Herald microfilm

To:      caoimhghin@yahoo.com

So you're sending this around Ireland?  I've always meant to do

something

similar for the States.  Maybe someone will beat me to it, but maybe

I'll

make it my summer project.  I've just got to get my act together ...

you

inspire!  BTW, you need not put my name into anything ... YOU were

really the

one who got it all started, I just deal with the administrative muck on

the

list.  More like a secretary than an author.  But feel free to give out

name/email/address or whatever folks would like.  I'm obviously not

shy, and

don't mind being a contact person, just don't not want to be given

credit

where none is due.  Would you post to the list any

conversations/responses

you receive?  Might be interesting ...

Happy spring (we're at the end of the tulips, mid-dogwood bloom, and

just

beginning the azaleas -- I can't get my mind out of the garden!),

Leslie

 

From: Fatarm@aol.com  | Block Address | Add to Address Book

Date:  Tue, 24 Apr 2001 13:28:08 EDT

Subject:        Re: new subscriber

To:      caoimhghin@yahoo.com

Done (your cousin is subscribed).  And, yes, why not post it.  It's

always

interesting to read more about these random folks posted to the list.

Makes

it seem less like a list of names than a family history site, don't you

think?

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Date:  Wed, 25 Apr 2001 10:49:30 +0100 (BST)

From: Caoimhghin O Croidheain <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>  | Block Address | Add to Address Book

Subject:        letters and papers

To:      CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Hi y'all

I sent the 70 letters to Cryans in the

Roscommon/Sligo/Dublin areas. I will have to check the

other phone books to see if there are many in other

regions of Ireland. So we will have sit back and see

if it produces new members for the List.

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I have had offers of help from my cousin Lauri and

Karen re: Roscommon Herald so it shouldnt be too long

before the Cryan stories etc appear on your screens.

(I do look out for variants of Cryan but

extroardinarily enough I havnt come across any! Maybe

the Sligo papers of the time are full of Creans and no

Cryans?!?!?)

Regards

caoimhghin

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Date:  Fri, 27 Apr 2001 11:42:05 +0100 (BST)

From: Caoimhghin O Croidheain <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>  | Block Address | Add to Address Book

Subject:        Re: Valentia roots

To:      m.shanahan@ic.ac.uk

http://www.rootscomputing.com/howto/cousin/cousin.htm

http://www.rootsweb.com/~txrusk/relative.htm         

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check out these 2 sites to find out how exactly we are

related and how far back you are willing to go!!

caomhghin

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From: "Grainne & Dirk Springael" <springael@compuserve.com>  | Block Address | Add to Address Book

To:      <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>

Subject:        Cryan Family

Date:  Thu, 26 Apr 2001 20:45:13 +0100

 

Hi Kevin,

 

I received your note today on the Cryan  Family History, by co incidence I have here my fathers 'Frank Cryan' and cousin 'Louis Dockery's' notes on our family - Cryans

 

Boyle Cryans are 2nd cousins of my grandfathers.

 

I am Grainne Cryan, our family goes back as follows

Siblings: Frank (USA), Anne (Dublin) and Maria (Galway)

Parents : Frank Cryan and Mary Forde(Galway)

Franks siblings : Peter, James (Fr Peter), John (Fr Philip) and Maureen (Dublin)

Franks parents: Mary Begley (Glasgow) and Patrick Cryan (carrowreagh) (both deceased)

Patricks parents: Peter Cryan & Sara (?Carney)

Patricks siblings: Susan, Jack, Fr Peter, Mary Ann, Sister Peter and Frances

Peter Cryans parents:Nora Carney of Creevolan - Elphine &

Peter Cryans siblings: Michael, Luke, Martin, Pat, Sara, Anne, Bridget, Maggie, Kate, Winnie

Peters Cryans Childrens History :

Michael - died Young

Luke - died Young

Martin - Father of Martin, Willie, Josie (Clapp) Gretta (Polian), Evelyn (Tansey) Baby (Dufficy/Conry)

Peter - Father Susan (Dockery), Paddy, Jack, Fr Peter, Mary anne, Sister peter, Frances (died Young)

Pat - Father of Mai (Barrett), Niall (Kenny) Paddy, Jack (on the hill), Sam & willie both went to South America,

Sara - (Connellan mother of Pat)

Anne - (Keogh mother of Michael)

Bridget (Fitmaurice) mother of - son a teacher in Cavan - who had 3 sons - 1 a chemist in Dulbin - also a daughter a nun.

Maggie (Nolan)

Kate (Egan)

Winnie (Cummins)

 

kevin hope this is of some use to you

 

regards

Grainne and Frank(snr) Cryan

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From: "paul-mcvey" <paul-mcvey@msn.com>  | Block Address | Add to Address Book

To:      "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>

Subject:        Re: *New* old Cryan grave found!

Date:  Fri, 27 Apr 2001 17:45:15 +0100

Hi

Your information regarding the 'new' old Cryan grave is fantastic.  No,

Peter isn't buried in Glasnevin; that is his half-brother Robert, also

a

doctor.  I did promise you a photo of Robert's grave.  Unfortunately, I

can't find the copies I thought I had, but have now found the negatives

and

have taken them to be processed.  They will be ready next Thursday, so

you

should get them the week after next.  I can add nothing to FamSpack's

message, but have asked her to clear up a couple of points.  (For

instance,

I had thought - but was not certain - that Robert Cryan's second wife

was

Mary Anne McDermott, not Mary Anne Ford.)  I am certain I have your

address,

but in case not, or if you have moved, please confirm it.  To return to

the

newly-found Daniel.  There are no subsequent Daniels that I know of in

my

branch of the Cryans, which is a little puzzling, but I notice from the

Census of Elphin 1749, that on page 332, Ahrefinucan, Ardcarn parish,

there

are three Cryans listed:  Tim Cryne and wife. Papist. Farmer. Two

children;

Dan Cryne and wife. Papist. Farmer. One child; Patt Cryne. Papist.

Farmer.

One child. [Source: Mr Peter Manning.]  Whether there is any connection

here

I have no idea.

Thanks for having found my 4xgreat grandfather!

Regards

Paul.

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From: Melodi609@cs.com  | Block Address | Add to Address Book

Date:  Fri, 27 Apr 2001 16:37:42 EDT

Subject:        Crain/Crane/Crehan

To:      caoimhghin@yahoo.com, archives@brunnet.net

Can't get my husband's ancestors across the pond as they say! Where are

these

Crane/Crain Crehans from ?

These are our possible Creans  O'  somethings or other we hope to

connect

with eventually  .William /Crane/Crain , a Roman Catholic b. Ireland c

1797

immigated 1819 lived in Wicklow Parish, CarletonParish , in 1851, there

in

1871 living with son James Crain and Mary Riley /Reilly Crain   1876.

Williams wife was Lavinia/Lucy/Lucinda Smith a Baptist, b 1800/1806,

Ireland 

or New Brunswick. I saw once that a Lucy was from N.Y. I wonder .If my

memory

is correct in the Tarr story about these relations to the Mahany's ,

Lynches

, Fallons , Ladner, Tarrs etc., thru  Delia Mahany Tarr's grandfather ,

John

Crain ,whose mother was   Lucy/ Lavinia Smith that they were related to 

distant cousins , Botsford Smith and George Smith of Fort Fairfield ,

Maine

and  to a Hebsy Smith who would have been  Delia's mother's aunt or

cousin. I

know some of the Easton , Maine  Smiths seem to have N.Y. connection. I

will

follow that lead next summer in Maine.

Lucy is buried in Clearview Catholic Cemetery in New Brunswick. I have

seen a

picture of her with her grandaughter Mary Ann Crain Williams and the 

Melvin

H. or Henry M. Williams ., Guy Joseph  Mel's son  and my Mel's father 

and

siblings also in it. She wore a  cap, someone said she was Scot. Lucy

's

husband  William Crane is listed in Clearview Cemetery, N.B  There are

no

dates so maybe he is bd elsewhere .

 Children of William and Lucy were mostly baptized in 1839 and the

baptisms

are recorded in St Bruno's Catholic Church in  Van Buren , Me. that may

have

been because of a missionary, one was baptized in 1840, I believe that

was

James  and was the last one listed in the St. Bruno's record .

"John " born where? ca 1825 , md Ellen Phillips  8 Sept , 1850

Woodstock ,

N.B. records.  She was the d/o Thomas Phillips and Bridget Gatsby

//Gatsely?.

 Her father, Thomas Phillips operated a sawmill ,On the line in the St

John

record  that says    Immigration  ,in what concern the Phillips  is

written....Wicklow parish  1851 , 1861, 1871. John  died 6 July 1897

@74,

Lucy died in March, 1905 and they are bd in Clearview, Catholic

Cemetery ,

N.B      My husband 's grandmother ,was Mary Ann Crain wife of Melvin

Henry

Williams ., she was John and Ellen's child . The Crains and Williamses

and

many of these families lived in River de Chute , Easton , Maine and the

Catholic Church and Cemetery was across the  River de Chute Stream.

 I have info on this family of Williams and Mary Ann's siblings gotten

from

the Tarr narration by Delia Mahany Tarr.

Following are  the  other children of Lucy Smith and William Crane:

  "William "  b at Frederickton , St. Dunstan's, 3 aug 1828 was 1 yr 3

mos.

;he md Mary Murphy  according to Delia Mahany Tarr .

 More Records from St. John the Evangelist and St Gabriel's Catholic

Church

records. in New Brunswick have some of these families , one place was

Woodstock, can't recall other  it may have been Johnsville.

"Elizabeth "b ca 1829 ,Tarr says she was a dressmaker  md John Allen

McDonald

of Mars Hill , Me.           ;   

" Susanna "b ca 1831,  (Susan says Tarr ,died young. )    ;

"Richard" b ca 1834,  md Hannah Donnelly in 1868 at Johnsville , N.B., 

d

1908    ; 

"Michael " b ca 1836  , md Elizabeth  Duly  says Tarr ; Diocese of

Saint

John-Archives ,  One Bayard Drive ,  St. John New Brunswick    E2L  3L5  

says Donley/Dooley in 1859     ;

"James " b ca 1840 md Mary Reilly(Riley says diocese)  in 1868 , at

Johnsville ; died 14 March , 1927, bd. Clearview Cem.   ;   

 " Mary Ann " b in Woodstock  ,bapt. 23 Feb, 1843  (10 mos) She was 

living

with Richard.& Ann  1871  After Hannah died she kept house  for Richard

and

he young family;  d 1924   

There was another "Mary Ann "  with same sponsors , Alfred and Mary 

Ann

Murphy ,listed as bapt 24 july 1844, question of possibly two?    

The diocese names that other  again ,Mary Ann. I am wondering if she

may be

the next child listed by Tarr , in the Will and Lucy  list of children

.That

would have been the last one who was a Lavina ,who md Richard  Murphy .

The

mother Lucy / Lavinia / Lucinda ,.in those days , had she been baptized

Catholic , would have had to have a saints name and was Lavina one .

There was an added note  by Delia Tarr about  Lavina and Richard Murphy

. It 

was that their only child Priscilla  md  to  Thomas Mahany  had a son, 

Arthur ,who  resembled his Grandfather  Murphy who also had red hair.

We would like to know about relations across in Ireland.

 At   http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/gc/surnames/cra/CrainObits?post     

I

have submitted more info on these families. My address in Maine is 

Mrs.

Melvin L. Williams       RR2  Box 1103     Belgrade, Maine ... Will be

here

until June 6 , 2001 return  Oct.15. don't know when we will get

computer in

Maine.

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From: "paul-mcvey" <paul-mcvey@msn.com>  | Block Address | Add to Address Book

To:      "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>

Subject:        Re: *New* old Cryan grave found!

Date:  Fri, 27 Apr 2001 23:29:29 +0100

Hi, KevinYes, of course you can put it on the cryan-list.    I notice that grave

contains five people, so is probably full.  It is therefore a good bet

that

there is another Cryan grave nearby, containing the body of Mary Anne,

Robert Cryan senior's second wife, from whom I am descended.

Incidentally, since mailing you I have come across a letter I received

in

1992 from a lady named Teresa Flynn, from Castlerea. Inter alia she

writes

that "...a lot of the old Cryans are buried in the very old part of the

Assylin graveyard."  So, who knows?  There may be other, as yet

undiscovered

gravestones.

One final thing: do you know if Belinda and Bridget are forms of the

same

name?  I know that Brid is the Irish for Bridget, but I don't know what

the

Irish for Belinda would be.  Having written that, I would be extremely

surprised if Irish was this family's first language, even at the

beginning

of the nineteenth century.  If the two names are in fact the same, then

I'm

still one sibling short in the case of my 2xgreat grandmother!

Regards

Paul.

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Reply-to:       "FamSpack" < >

From: "FamSpack" < >  | Block Address | Add to Address Book

Subject:        Cryan deaths in Co Durham

Date:  Sat, 28 Apr 2001 09:53:24 +0100

To:      CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Hi Shelly Jill and anyone interested in England !

Following my last email in February you may be interested in this entry

that

I found in the new National Burial Index for England and Wales.(this is

the

first edition and does not cover the whole country. CDs for the rest

will

gradually be issued. There is nothing for the whole of Liverpool ! etc.

However there are 5million burials on the CDs)

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3 Sept 1885   John James CRYAN 10 mths,  Hartlepool Old Cemetery,  Co

Durham

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This looks very like the same John James that I gave to you as born

1884 4th

quarter in Hartlepool

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Thus it is not you John............ sorry..........so the other is a

stronger possibility !

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Of general interest.... one other death appears in Co Durham

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1 Oct 1871 James Cryan 2 Hartlepool Old Cemetery Co Durham

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........

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Eve

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Date:  Sat, 28 Apr 2001 12:06:56 +0100 (BST)

From: Caoimhghin O Croidheain <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>  | Block Address

Subject:        Roscommon Herald 1889

To:      caoimhghin@yahoo.com

Roscommon Herald 1889

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1889

Jan 12

Keash BINL

P.Cryan

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Jan 19

Croghan BINL

Killapogue

James Cryan

(also large list of Croghan inhabitants)

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Knockroe Lower

Pat Cryan

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Jan 26

Carigeenroe BINL

Bryan Cryan

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Feb 2

Croghan BINL

Pat Cryan

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Feb 23

Carrick-on-Shannon

Meeting to the Board

John Cryan

Ref to mTeachers”

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Apr 13

Drumlion BINL

Luke Cryan

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May 4

Carrick-on-Shannon Union

mLabourers Cottages”

John Cryan

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May 11

Keash BINL

J. Cryan

Occupied the chair

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May 18

Carrick-on-Shannon Union

mLabourers Cottages”

John Cryan

Building contractor? (finishing Jamestown School)

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INL

Sligo organising Committee

J. Cryan -  Keash

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June 1

Keash BINL

J. Cryan

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Croghan BINL

Pat Cryan

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Apr 20

John Cryan of Carrick tendered to build 4 cottages

Cos union

s.a. May 4

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June 15

Roscommon county champ

P. Cryan Capt of Cootehall Team

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Jul 13

J M Cryan

Keash BINL

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Croghan

Knockroe

Pat Cryan

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South Sligo organising committee

Keash /dom k cryan

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July 20

COS tournament

Final ties goal umpire

R J Cryan

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Aug 3

John Cryan

COS union

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Aug 17

COS annual regatta

 R. Cryan

J. Cryan jnr

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Keash BINL

J m Crayn

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Aug 31

Keash

P Cryan

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Sep 28

John Cryan

COS union board

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Keash

J M Cryan

Co Sligo

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Oct 5

Cootehall regatta and athletic sports

One mile foot race

Peter Cryan

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Oct 12

Ros. Co. Championships

Field Umpires

Cryan

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Nov 2

Ad for Brazen Head

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Date:  Sat, 28 Apr 2001 12:07:56 +0100 (BST)

From: Caoimhghin O Croidheain <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>  | Block Address

Subject:        Roscommon Herald 1890

To:      caoimhghin@yahoo.com

Roscommon Herald 1890

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Jan 11

COS J Cryan

Builder

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Boyle BINL

James Cryan

John Cryan

Donations

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Feb 8

BINL

Full page of names

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Drumlion BINL

John Cryan

Patrick Cryan

Luke Cryan

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Apr 19

COS union

John Cryan

Builder

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Reply-to:       "FamSpack" < >

From: "FamSpack" < >  | Block Address | Add to Address Book

Subject:        Ardcarn Graves and other things

Date:  Sat, 28 Apr 2001 21:11:03 +0100

To:      CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

A quick reply to Pat and Paul especially but to others interested

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I have been "collecting" all the CRYANs that I can find since about

1997 and

putting them into a dataset. Most of my data comes from the actual

parish

registers which I am searching for my Daniel b 1844ish with father

John. I

write down all the CRYANs that I see. (I was born a CRYAN so it is my

major

interest)

Being an adict I have also found most useful and have bought a number

of CDs

such as the VS or Vital Statistics of the LDS (Paul asked about this)

They

have extracts from some parish registers including Boyle but not Keash

or

Ballymote and extracts from the General Registers after 1864(when they

start).

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From the various sources I have been able to link together all the

children

with the same parents and with additional information that Caoimhghin

gave

from deeds and documents concerning wills, if I remember correctly, was

able

to link the two families.

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I will give you all the "c" dates/christening as apposed to "b"

dates/birth,

eventually but am due to go away so will do it next week.

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I have quite a dynasty with dates for the reply to Caoimhghin's letter

from

Grainne and Frank Cryan in this morning's mail - if he can get them to

join

the newsgroup but that will have to be next week too.

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Also I have started the 1901 census for Co Sligo and soon the first

fruits

will appear - Keash parish (part) and others !!

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Thank you to everyone who writes . It is getting exciting again.

Eve

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From: ljstandak@webtv.net (Lyle Staehnke)  | Block Address | Add to Address Book

Date:  Sat, 28 Apr 2001 20:40:42 -0700 (PDT)

Subject:        RE:Danial Cryan

To:      CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

I see quiet a few Danial Cryan`s showing up lately in our e-mails.

Seems

very possible that there would be a tie in with the Danial Cryan who is

my great grand father. Born in 1804 in Ireland, had three children

baptized in Boyle parish. John, Martin and margaret (wife Margaret

McDonagh) My grand dad stated his dad (Danial) was born in Sligo. One

of

the sons, John, Married Mary Christie In Glasgow Scotland, one of their

children was named Danial born 12-12-1863 in paisley. Danial (Senior)

came to Canada in about 1830. he had several more children and the

Danial name shows up often in his off spring.

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Reply-to:       "FamSpack" < >

From: "FamSpack" < >  | Block Address | Add to Address Book

To:      "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>

Subject:        Re: a response to my letters!

Date:  Sun, 29 Apr 2001 09:56:36 +0100

Hi ,

If it is possible to glean a few dates I think that I can extend the

dynasty.

However with no dates I could be wildly out.

If it does coincide (I think that I have found families with the same

pattern of children and with the unusual (for a CRYAN) name of Susan.

I would like also to know where the originators of the information

found it.

Is it family lore or from a family bible or from parish registers.

It would be nice if they joined the group and then we can talk directly

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As I am off-line for a few days I will do more when I return and

hopefully,

if they give dates my stuff can be reinforced and I will be happy to

pass on

what I have.

Eve

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Reply-to:       "FamSpack" < >

From: "FamSpack" < >  | Block Address | Add to Address Book

To:      "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>

Subject:        Re: a response to my letters!

Date:  Sun, 29 Apr 2001 09:56:36 +0100

Hi ,

If it is possible to glean a few dates I think that I can extend the

dynasty.

However with no dates I could be wildly out.

If it does coincide (I think that I have found families with the same

pattern of children and with the unusual (for a CRYAN) name of Susan.

I would like also to know where the originators of the information

found it.

Is it family lore or from a family bible or from parish registers.

It would be nice if they joined the group and then we can talk directly

 <!--[endif]>

As I am off-line for a few days I will do more when I return and

hopefully,

if they give dates my stuff can be reinforced and I will be happy to

pass on

what I have.

Eve

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----- Original Message -----

From: "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>

To: <CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com>

Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 11:18 AM

Subject: a response to my letters!

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Hi

Can anyone add to this email I got today?

caoimhghin

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From: "Grainne & Dirk Springael"

<springael@compuserve.com>

To: <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>

Subject: Cryan Family

Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 20:45:13 +0100

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Hi Kevin,

 <!--[endif]>

I received your note today on the Cryan Family

History, by co incidence I have here my fathers 'Frank

Cryan' and cousin 'Louis Dockery's' notes on our

family - Cryans

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Boyle Cryans are 2nd cousins of my grandfathers.

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I am Grainne Cryan, our family goes back as follows

Siblings: Frank (USA), Anne (Dublin) and Maria

(Galway)

Parents : Frank Cryan and Mary Forde(Galway)

Franks siblings : Peter, James (Fr Peter), John (Fr

Philip) and Maureen (Dublin)

Franks parents: Mary Begley (Glasgow) and Patrick

Cryan (carrowreagh) (both deceased)

Patricks parents: Peter Cryan & Sara (?Carney)

Patricks siblings: Susan, Jack, Fr Peter, Mary Ann,

Sister Peter and Frances

Peter Cryans parents:Nora Carney of Creevolan -

Elphine &

Peter Cryans siblings: Michael, Luke, Martin, Pat,

Sara, Anne, Bridget, Maggie, Kate, Winnie

Peters Cryans Childrens History :

Michael - died Young

Luke - died Young

Martin - Father of Martin, Willie, Josie (Clapp)

Gretta (Polian), Evelyn (Tansey) Baby (Dufficy/Conry)

Peter - Father Susan (Dockery), Paddy, Jack, Fr Peter,

Mary anne, Sister peter, Frances (died Young)

Pat - Father of Mai (Barrett), Niall (Kenny) Paddy,

Jack (on the hill), Sam & willie both went to South

America,

Sara - (Connellan mother of Pat)

Anne - (Keogh mother of Michael)

Bridget (Fitmaurice) mother of - son a teacher in

Cavan - who had 3 sons - 1 a chemist in Dulbin - also

a daughter a nun.

Maggie (Nolan)

Kate (Egan)

Winnie (Cummins)

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kevin hope this is of some use to you

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regards

Grainne and Frank(snr) Cryan

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Date:  Mon, 30 Apr 2001 11:25:34 +0100 (BST)

From: Caoimhghin O Croidheain <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>  | Block Address | Add to Address Book

Subject:        Roscommon Herald 1888

To:      CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Hi Just reposting this email in case anyone is

interested.

caoimhghin

Fri, 7 Apr 2000 12:07:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Caoimhghin O Croidheain <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> | Block address Subject: [CRYAN] Roscommon Herald 1888 To:

CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

The following are refs which might interest somebody.

I will try at some stage to get photocopies from the

microfilm and then if somebody is willing they could

be typed onto the list as some of these Cryan-related

stories are fascinating.(others are just mentions of

various Cryans)I will also be doing 1889 as I am trying to find info

regarding the new school in Croghan [1889] Already I

have found the ad for tenders for building the school!

My gggrandfather was the Master of the school.

Regards Caoimhghinps I didnt see any Creans or other variants. If I do I

will note them.....

Roscommon Herald 1888

Jan 14

Keash Branch of the Irish National League (BINL)

Treasurer- J.M. Cryan

Feb 11

Keash Branch of the Irish National League (BINL)

Treasurer- J.M. Cryan

Feb 18

Croghan BINL

Pat Cryan elected to committee

Feb 25

Croghan BINL

Pat Cryan

Mar 3

Subcommittee in Boyle

Daniel Cryan

Patrick Cryan

James Cryan

mentioned for old rent/ new judicial rent amounts

Birth of illegitimate child to Anne Cryan, inmate of

Boyle Workhouse for 11 years accuses Schoolmaster Mr

E.Conway of being father - long verbatim courtcase.

Keash BINL

J.M. Cryan called to take chair.

Mar 24

Drumlion BINL

Luke Cryan

Apr 7

"The Coercion Act Regime in Carrick"

Summons served upon Robert Cryan, Mason.

Keash BINL

Obit of Andrew Cryan (buried in Templevanny)

Croghan BINL

Pat Cryan

Apr 14

Boyle Board of Guardians

Verdict re: Anne Cryan

failed to prove her charge - Conway showed neglect of

duty.

Croghan BINL

Conway resigns from Boyle Workhouse.

Coercion Prosecutions Extraordinary evidence

Defendant Robert Cryan RE: INL procession

Long verbatim court report

Apr 21

Drumlion BINL

Luke Cryan

May 5

Croghan BINL

Pat Cryan

May 19

Croghan BINL

Pat Cryan

May 26

"Release of Mr. D. Cassidy C-ON-S."

Robert Cryan

"The Boyle Magistrates"

Constable Cryan

Jun 9

Drumlion BINL

Luke Cryan

Jun 30

"Great Nationalist Demo at Boyle"

Keash BINL - J. Cryan

Jul 7

Croghan BINL

Pat Cryan

Aug 4

"Sad Death of Young Carrick Man"

Obit of Pat Cryan - buried in Kiltoghert

Aug 11 + 25,Sep 8,Oct 27

Croghan BINL

Pat Cryan

Aug 18

Batty Cryan of Breedogue whacked Joseph Connolly for

stealing poteen whiskey

Boyle Petty Sessions

short verbatim report

0ct 27

Corrigeenroe BINL

Bryan Cryan

Nov 10

O'Kelly testimonial subs

James Cryan

P. Cryan

Dec 22

O'Kelly testimonial subs

Drumlion BINL

Peter Cryan

Pat Cryan

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From: springael@compuserve.com | Block Address | Add to Address Book

To:      caoimhghin@yahoo.com

Subject:        Re: Hi

Date:  Wed, 2 May 2001 15:16:18 +0100

The details I gave you were from my fathers and cousins memories, I

dont

have dates, however our grand aunt Susan married Charlie Dockery if

thats of

any use.  All I know is what I sent to you.  Whats involved in joining

the

list ?  I believe my 2nd cousin Louis Dockery of Dublin is the man with

the

information.

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regards

grainne

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----- Original Message -----

From: Caoimhghin O Croidheain <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>

To: <springael@compuserve.com>; <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>

Sent: 30 April 2001 10:31

Subject: Hi

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> 

> Hi

>  I posted your email to the Cryan-List and got the

> following response. Could you email me more detailed

> information or maybe you would consider joining the

> list and the researchers will be able to contribute to

> your information directly?

> regards

> caoimhghin

> 

> Note: forwarded message attached. From:      silvia.cryan@btinternet.com | Block Address | Add to Address Book

Reply-to:        silvia.cryan@btinternet.com

To:       caoimhghin@yahoo.com

Date:   Fri, 4 May 2001 15:32:52 00100

Subject:          Cryan studies, lists, and so and so

Hi, my name is Silvia Cryan, and I am from Argentina,

but now I'm living in London and in a few months I'll be

moving to North Wales.

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I was doing a search in Yahoo about Cryan, and I found

your string that caught my attention, since my

grandfather was born in Elfin, near Croghan, and my

cousins live in Carrick-on-Shannon.

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I was laughing so much at some of the 1888 and 1889

threads. My grandfather left Ireland when he was 19

and he never returned. Many years after his death my

dad went back and reunited with his cousins, Padraig

calling him "one of the lads" when he saw dad, the

resemblances were incredible!!!

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I would be really greatful if you could send me

interesting links to visit or things to research when I'm

over there in the summer (it only take £12 Ferry boat to

Dublin and 3 hours in a bus to get there!).

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And maybe we could be relatives as well, if you are a

Cryan. I don't look very Irish, I took after my mom but

think in an Irish way (many people tell me).

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Many thanks for your research and hope you will reply

soon!

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Silvia

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From: silvia.cryan@btinternet.com | Block Address | Add to Address Book

Reply-to:       silvia.cryan@btinternet.com

To:      caoimhghin@yahoo.com

Date:  Fri, 4 May 2001 21:58:04 00100

Subject:        Re: Hi!

Well, I couldn't help noticing that you are asking about

two of the brothers (Patrick and James) of whom you

don't have much information about.

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Are those the ones who used to live in Upper and Middle

Carroreagh?

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Or are you referring to other Cryans? Since James and

Patrick as soooo common in that area.

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Nice to keep in touch with you and for your very valuable

information.

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Silvia

Silvia Cryan

12 Kennedy Walk

Tisdall Place

London SE17 1QL

0207 701 5693

0777 618 2593

Email: sil@silviacryan.com

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Date:  Sun, 6 May 2001 20:15:11 +0100 (BST)

From: caoimhghin@yahoo.com | Block Address | Add to Address Book

Subject:        Lyle's information on Cryans 1

To:      cryan-l@rootsweb.com

Lyle Staehnke

ljstandak@webtv.net

3533 N.E.149th

Portland, OR 97230

United States

 

http://members.tripod.com/~havana_2/index-2.html

MORE CRYAN INFO

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   In searching for information concerning danial

 cryan,I came accross a lot of people named

cryan that I can`t connect to my relation`s.So I

will list them and hope some one else can make use of

the info.

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    One of the first person`s I contacted in

ONTARIO CANADA was STELLA CRYAN.She and her

family were very helpful in referring me to other`s

who were of the CRYAN clan.She referred me to

PATRICIA QUAIL and MAUREEN McGILLIS,(sisters)

descendant`s of BRIDGET CRYAN who had married JOHN

SAYERS.Both of these lady`s were very interested

in finding out more about our genealogy,and contri_

buted  what they knew about it.

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   I also contacted ANNE and HILDA CRYAN of

PICTON, ONT. CANADA.Both retired registered

nurse`s.They furnished me with lot of information

about DR.JOHN CRYAN and his son DR.JOSEPH HOWARD

CRYAN..The latter being ANNA and HILDA`S father.

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   JOHN CRYAN was born in Northern IRELAND (1844)

and died in DEMORESTVILLE on OCT.2 1914.He had---

  attended

college,and graduated from QUEEN`S COLLEGE In 

KINGSTON ONT.He belonged to the PRESBYTERIAN church

in DEMORESTVILLE and was an active member for many

years. John married ELLEN SERENA MERKLEY (born in

WILLIAMSBURG ONT.--1852 and died MAR.31.1922-at

DEMORESTVILLE.They had four children,HENRIETTA,

NELLIE,ANNIE and JOSEPH HOWARD.

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   JOSEPH HOWARD CRYAN also be came a Doctor,he

graduated from the same school his father attended.

(QUEEN`S UNIVERSITY)His dad in 1887 and JOSEPH in

1903...JOSEPH was born in Febuary--1879 and passed

away-JAN.20th 1957 at PRINCE EDWARD COUNTY HOSPITAL.

He married MYRA P. GARRISON in 1911.They had two

daughter`s,ANNE and HILDA.

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   Both of these doctors were greatly respected in

 their community.I read several news clipping`s about

them,

and they both were greatly missed on their death.

From what I understand they would be very proud of

 their daughter`s and grand daughter`s ANNE and

HILDA.

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   In the census of Morrisburg,Matilda twshp 1871

There is a John CROYNE (CRYAN) listed...

  

   NAME         AGE    BORN     REL        OCCUPATION

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John Croyne     21     IRE.   Church of    teacher

                              SCOTLAND       

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   Below these CRYAN`s are mentioned in the 1881 

census of Williamsburg,Matilda twshp.Dundas CO.

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   NAME          AGE    BORN      REL      OCCUPATION

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John Cryan       36     IRE.    Presbyt.     teacher

Ellen            29     ---        "          wife

Henrietta         8     Can.       "          -----

George Anna       5     CAN.       "          -----

Joseph Howard     2     Can.       "          -----

Nellie            1     Can.       "          -----

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  The above family is again mentioned in the 1891

census of Dundas County distrct 57--Of course ten

year`s older,but this time John Cryan`s occupation

is listed as DR.of Allopathic D.C.Physician and

Surgeon.....

   

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   1881 census LANARK NORTH COUNTY PAKENHAM ONT.CAN.

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NAME        RELA.     AGE       BORN.    OCCUPATION

CRYAN

DENNIS     HUSBAND     60        IRE.     FARMER

BRIDGET      WIFE      55        IRE.       "

MICHAEL      SON       29        ONT.       "

FRANK        SON       27        ONT.       "

BRIDGET      DAU.      24         "         "

SARAH        DAU.      18         "         "

SUSAN        DAU.      15         "         "

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CRYAN

FRANCIS    HUSBAND      76        IRE.    FARMER

BRIDGET       WIFE      66        IRE.      "

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CRYAN

MICHAEL    HUSBAND       61        IRE.    FARMER

MARY           WIFE      61        IRE.       "

MARGARET       DAU.      22        ONT.       "

JANE           DAU.      20         "   SCHOOL-MARM

(BLURRED)      SON       18         "      HARNESS

                                            MAKER

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CRYAN

CHARLES      HUSBAND      30        ONT.     FARMER

ANNIE           WIFE      22        ONT.     FARMER

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   ELIZABETH CRYAN married PAT DOYLE 1-7 1849- at

ST.GREGORY MISSION at TORONTO CANADA.

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   THOMAS CRYAN married MARY FLYNN 11-5-1832 in

TORONTO CANADA.

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   The CRYAN name is mentioned in a book writen by

NORMAN LEE COOPER about the civil war.Writen in 1936.

Book # c787c. I found that in the LDS files...

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   The following information I also got from the LDS

(LATER DAY SAINTS) files,voting records...

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   HENRY CRYAN voted in 1810,at WYTHE COUNTY VIRGINIA

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   The names below are some Cryan`s that voted in

1870,at JEFFERSON (UNION COUNTY) SOUTH DAKOTA..

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               BRIDGET CRYAN

               DANIAL    "

               MARTIN    "

               MARY      "

             PATRICK     "

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   SARAH CRYAN voted in MINNEAPOLIS MINNESOTA 2nd

WARD in 1870.....

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   JOHN CRYAN voted in SUFFOLK CO. MASS. BOSTON`S

8th ward in 1850...

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   PAtrick F.CRYAN born 1865 died 1939, buried in

NEWCASTLE NEBRASKA,was married to KATHERINE A.

DOUGHERTY,born in ILLINOIS (1870) died 1927...

They had three children.....

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             MARIE CRYAN born 1891

           PATRICK CRYAN born 1893

              LUCY CRYAN born 1895

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   ROSE CRYAN married JOHN KELMAN AT GLASGOW,

LANARK,SCOTLAND on 11-6-1852.....

   ALEXANDER KELMAN, born 7-5-1853 at GORBALS,

LANARK,SCOTLAND..fa.JOHN KELMAN..ma.ROSE CRYAN

KELMAN....

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JACOBUM CRYAN,Christened 12-7-1840........

ANNAM CRYAN -,    "      10-9-1841........

FATHER..MARCI_CRYAN

MOTHER..MARIA KEIGAN

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ANNA MAGDALENE CRYAN--CHRISTENED 9-20-1840 at MOUNT

ST.MARIE CATHOLIC,BRADFORD,YORKSHIRE,ENGLAND....

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NAME      RELA.       BORN          WHERE

CRYAN

JOHN        HUSBAND     1825         IRELAND

MARY        WIFE        1835         IRELAND

TIMOTHY        SON      9-28-1854-- BLOOMFIELD NJ.

THOMAS         SON      1-15-1856--  " ESSEX CO.

MARGARET       DAU.    12--2-1857         "

(spouse JOSEPH REYNAUD SR. 1-25-1856-     "    )

JOHN           SON      9-10-1859         "

JAMES HENRY    SON           1860         "

WILLIAM        SON           1864    NEW JERSEY

JOSEPH         SON           1866       "

PATRICK        SON           1869       "    

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   A MARTIN CRYAN filed a letter of intent in SARGENT

COUNTY N.DAK. on 4-27-1893.He stated he was born in

ENGLAND in 1863,and he came to the USA through

DETROIT MICH. in April of 1880...

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   A JOHN CRYAN GOT his citzenship papers in CASS

COUNTY N.DAK. 0n 6-4-1888..He had filed a letter of

intent in EUREKA COUNTY NEVADA on 10-12-1881...

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   These CRYAN`S arrive on the Brig FOUNDLING,from

SLIGO BAY IRELAND 0n 6-30-1816,landing in NEW YORK.

There were 90 passengers..This info from a book

writen in 1980 by DONALD SCHLEGEL..

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JAMES CRYAN      AUGHNASARE  CO.      IRELAND

MARY    "        ROSCOMMON   CO.          "

MICHAEL "             "                   "

XCATHERINE            "                   "

XMARY                 "                   "

XPATRICK              "                   "

TIMOTHY               "                   "

BRIDGET               "                   "

MARTIN                "                   "

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   The ones with the X in front of the name were

children......

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   In 1834 these CRYAN`S landed in NEW BRUNSWICK..

ST.JOHN

               

                 MARY CRYAN....13

              MAURIAL CRYAN....12

                 MICH CRYAN....13  

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   I imagine the numbers following there name is 

there age,but I`m not sure.....

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   The following is a list of CRYAN`S who died in

CANADA, some of the wording and numbers I don`t 

understand,but I`ll enter it the way it was writen.

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                                      CI.

NAME            CONT.        PROVINCE CO  DEATH DATE

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JOHN E.CRYAN     91        STRATFORD  44   2-2-1899

-------CRYAN     21             "     44   1-26-1900

CRYAN HELEN IRENE 91            "     44   9-15-1901

MARIA  CRYAN      91      MORRISBURG  10   3-20-1908

ELLEN CRYAN       91      MARA TWSHP  40   2-12-1892

Ellin CRYAN       91       "      "   40   3-16-1892

EDITH HOLMES

CRYAN             91       ORILLIA    51  11-16-1909

DAVID CRYAN       21        STRATFORD 44   4--5-1912

JOHN  CRYAN       91     DEMORESTVILLE 47  10-2-1914

THOMAS CRYAN      91       WHITE FISH  54  4-14-1914

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   In June of 1996,I was fortunate enough to make a

trip to Ireland,along with my sister and my niece and

her husband.My sister being LILA FISHER and BOYCE and

LORI SMITH being the latter.The trip was a Christmas

present from BOYCE and LORI to me and LILA..BOYCE had

 been in IRELAND before,so he was familiar with the

area,and driving on the wrong side of the road.

It was

a very enjoyable trip,and I hope some day to make

another trip to IRELAND.LILA also had been there

before..

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   While there we met lot`s of wonderful people,all

of them very friendly.The CRYAN`S we met were

MICHAEL CRYAN of 87. TRACEY AVE. SLIGO.......

JOSEPH  CRYAN of DERRYKNOCKERAN CLOONLOO.....

BOYLE..CO. SLIGO.............................

FRANCIS CRYAN of CARRICK on SHANNON..........

PADRICK CRYAN who we visited with while at the Inn

that FRANCIS owned..We had a great visit with all

of them,and wished it could have been much longer.

    

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OTHER CRYAN GENEALOGIST`S

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KEVIN CRYAN--SWORDS,CO.DUBLIN,IRELAND

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Email: caoimhghin@yahoo.com

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CHARLES DOBIE

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Email: cdobie@superaje.com

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KAREN McELRATH  BELFAST IRELAND

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Email: K.McELrath@Queens-Belfast.AC.UK

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MAUREEN NANTISTA HUNTINGTON NEW YORK

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Email: mornan@nais.com

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J.OGG, STOW MASSACHUSETTS

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Email: J_JOgg@compuserve.com

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MICHAEL TOBIN, CO.GALAWAY,IRELAND

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Email: tobinmi@hotmail.com

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ANTHONY+JILL CRYAN

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Email: cryanaj@ecn.net.au

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PATRICK CRYAN,105 CONISTON AVE.Upminster,ESSEX,

ENGLAND..........

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THOMAS W. CRYAN,66 RUNVON RD.CLIFTON,NEW JERSEY

07013-2710

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SIOBAN MULLIN LEAMINGTON,ONT.CANADA

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Email: dublin@sympatico.ca

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ROGER CRYAN,DECATUR,GEORGIA

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Email: cryan@avana.net

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Date:  Sun, 6 May 2001 20:16:55 +0100 (BST)

From: caoimhghin@yahoo.com | Block Address | Add to Address Book

Subject:        Lyle's information on Cryans 2

To:      cryan-l@rootsweb.com

http://members.tripod.com/~havana_2/index-3.html

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CRYAN

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  In may of 1998 I called Morrisburg Canada

and talked to the land registry office.They told

me they had records of Danial Cryan buying land

in 1855,and of him selling land in 1867 to James

Dorin..This all in the Morrisburg area.(25 acres)

The person I was talking to refered me to Lynn

Cook of Morrisburg,who had been doing geneology

for many years..I called Lynn,and she gave some

very important Info,She informed me that Danial

Cryan and family were listed in the 1881 census

of Stormont county--dist. 101-page 57-- south

district of osnabruck--near Dickenson landing

Our lady of grace Catholic church would have been

 where they attended.. Dickenson Landing and the

 church cemetery,were displaced because of the

 

St. Lawrence river Hydro prodject.This info was

especialy important.because the last record I

had of Danial Cryan was the 1871 census of

Matilda twshp Dundas co. Ontario Canada..

(Morrisburg)----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

This is how it appears in the 1881 census

Osnabruck, Stormont county, Ontario Canada

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Cryan    AGE  Born   REL  Oc

Danial   78   Ire    R.C.   Farmer    Irish

Mary     56   Ire    R.C.     "          "

Austin   29   Ont.    "       "      Married

James    27   Ont.    "      Shoe Maker--Irish

Thomas   23   Ont.    "                Irish

Michael  20   Ont.    "                Irish

Joseph   18   Ont.    "                Irish

Lucy     24   Ont.    "                Irish

Mary     17   Scot.   "                Irish

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    Mary is Martin Cryan`s daughter,I believe.

She married a McGovern and lived in Joliet Ill.

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From the Boyle RC parish

records--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Martinus CRYAN christened 7 Jan 1824 son of Daniel

CRYAN

and Margarita Mc DONAGH

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Margarita CRYAN christened 26 Dec 1826 daughter of

Daniel CRYAN

and Margarita MC

DONAGH-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Joanem CRINE christened 7 Sept 1829 son of Danielis

CRINE

and Margaret MCDONAUGH

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NB at this time it was most usual for the baptism/

christening

 to take place either on the same day

as the birth or within 3 days(from a church tome

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and from observation, sometimes the actual birth

 date is also given in the registers. The normal

 practice was for the priest to go to the

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house)-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Date:  Sun, 6 May 2001 20:18:26 +0100 (BST)

From: caoimhghin@yahoo.com | Block Address | Add to Address Book

Subject:        Lyle's information on Cryans 3

To:      cryan-l@rootsweb.com

http://members.tripod.com/~havana_2/index-4.html

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MISC CRYAN

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Cryan Family Of Boyle, Co. Roscommon [ Follow Ups ] [

The Leitrim-Roscommon Bulletin Board ] [ FAQ ] Posted

by Maureen McCourt Nantista on May 02, 1997 at

01:00:06:

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Am interested in hearing from anyone with information

concerning the Cryans of Boyle Parish. My own family

is as follows:

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1. Peter CRYAN (abt 1798) sp. Araeta MATTIMOE (abt

1798)

2. Catherine CRYAN (1823) 2. Peter CRYAN (1824)

2. Michael CRYAN (1826) sp. Mary DURR (1828)

3. Mary Ann CRYAN (1853) ? sp. James BRENNAN (1853)

3. Michael CRYAN (1855-1933) sp. Bridget CASEY

(1855-1917)

4. Michael J. CRYAN (1881-1961) 4. Jane CRYAN

(1882-1951) sp- Michael CUNNINGHAM(1881-1962)

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4. John CRYAN (1884-1929) sp. Sarah MCINTOSH

(1889-1967)

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4. Bridget CRYAN (1885-1963) sp. James SCANLON

(?-1973)

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4. Patrick Joseph CRYAN (1887-1917) sp. Julia GAINE

(1894)

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4. Mary Anne CRYAN (1888-1894)

4. Peter CRYAN (1890-1917)

4. Catherine CRYAN (1892-1911)

4. Eugene CRYAN (1894-1913)

4. Francis Joseph CRYAN (1897-1960)

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4. Leo Augustine CRYAN (1899-1981)

3. Elizabeth CRYAN (1857)

3. Peter CRYAN (1860)

3. Patrick CRYAN (1862)

3. John CRYAN (1864)

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3. John CRYAN (1866)

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The family lived in Deerpark and Boyle. Michael CRYAN

(1855-1933) was well known and steward of the Catholic

Club. His sons Michael J., Francis and Leo formed the

popular Boyle Havana Band. Leo was also the govt.

insurance agent in Boyle.

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In addition to CRYAN relatives I would like to learn

of any DURR or CASEY cousins of this family. Will

supply additional information to anyone interested.

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2 records matching cryan. Printing first 2 of 2

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SURNAME: CRYAN OTHER NAMES: JOHN AGE: 28 SEX: M

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CRIME DESCRIPTION: Burglary with intent

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SENTENCE: Transportation 7 yrs

SHIP: London

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PETITIONER:

RELATIONSHIP:

DOCUMENT REFERENCES: TR 8, P 142

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SURNAME: CRYAN OTHER NAMES: JOHN AGE: 0 SEX: M

ALIAS:

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PLACE OF TRIAL: Sligo TRIAL DATE: 20/06/1849

PLACE OF IMPRISONMENT: kilmainham

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DOCUMENT DATE: 24/03/1850

CRIME DESCRIPTION: burglary

SENTENCE: transportation 7 yrs

SHIP: PETITIONER: RELATIONSHIP:

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DOCUMENT REFERENCES: CRF1850misc2(2)

MICROFILM REFERENCES:

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Name: CRYAN, Annie (Clyne)

Cemetery: Avondale, Stratford

(Roman Catholic sections) County: Perth

Township: Downie Reference: PH-286-3

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Name: CRYAN, David

Cemetery: Avondale, Stratford

(Roman Catholic sections) County: Perth

Township: Downie Reference: PH-286-3

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Name: CRYAN, Ellen

Cemetery: St Josephs Roman Catholic

County: Perth Township: Ellice

Reference: PH-000-0

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Name: CRYAN, John

Cemetery: St Josephs Roman Catholic

County: Perth Township: Ellice Reference: PH-000-0

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Name: CRYAN, Valentine

Cemetery: Avondale, Stratford

(Roman Catholic sections) County: Perth

Township: Downie Reference: PH-286-3

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Saved message From: cdobie@superaje.com (Charles

Dobie) Date: Wed, Jun 10, 1998, 12:19am (PDT+3) To:

ljstandak@webtv.net (Lyle Staehnke) Subject: Cryan in

OCFA 6

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Lyle, Here are the CRYAN entries in OCFA 6:

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"CRYAN","-","Holy Angels Roman Catholic, St

Thomas","Elgin","Yarmouth","EL-535","C650"

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"CRYAN","Anna Freeman","Avondale, Stratford (Range

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"CRYAN","Charles J.","Holy Angels Roman Catholic, St

Thomas","Elgin","Yarmouth","EL-535","C650"

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"CRYAN","Charles L.","Holy Angels Roman Catholic, St

Thomas","Elgin","Yarmouth","EL-535","C650"

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"CRYAN","Delia S.","Holy Angels Roman Catholic, St

Thomas","Elgin","Yarmouth","EL-535","C650"

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"CRYAN","Emerson S.","Holy Angels Roman Catholic, St

Thomas","Elgin","Yarmouth","EL-535","C650"

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"CRYAN","Joseph P.","Avondale, Stratford (Range

18)","Perth","Downie","PH-288-X","C650"

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"CRYAN","Nellie Kelterborn","Avondale, Stratford

(Range 18)","Perth","Downie","PH-288-X","C650"

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"CRYAN","Wilfred C.","Avondale, Stratford (Range

18)","Perth","Downie","PH-288-X","C650"

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I hope they are some use to you. Cheers,

Charlie Dobie, cdobie@superaje.com

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Cryan, Thomas......39 in 1872......born in

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1871 census,Ontario head of household...

First name is misspelled should be Danial

instead of David Cryan....

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"cryan" Résultat de la recherche effectuée à partir du

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File/Fichier //Dundas/Dundas_06 line 152:

CRYAN DAVID 68 IRELAND RC IRISH F 071 A 2 23 04

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CRYAN MICHAEL JAMES 2 RC 049 E 2 D 51

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Summary for query "cryan"/ Sommaire de la recherche

effectuée à partir du mot clé "cryan": found 6 matches

in 3 files/ 6 documents(s) trouvé(s)

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Frank MOOREGarda-Neptune M1478, 4+, 2-, 2x

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Gerry MURPHYNeptuneM1488, 4+

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Eunan DOLANNeptuneM 1378, 4+

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Nicole RYANCommercial-

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Anna Liffey-Workmen's W13.4+, 2-

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Niall O'TOOLECommercialM12.2x, 1x, L1x

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Willie RYANGardaM 1268, 4+, 2-, 2x

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Frances CRYAN Carrick-on-Shannon W11.1x

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Cathy BUCHANANQueen's Ladies'-Belfast RC W10.4+, 2-,

1xJohn

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GUARANTEED GOOD FOOD at Cryan's Riverside

Restaurant

The Restaurant specialises in Traditional Homecooked

Cuisine Proffering THE BEST in Good Wholesome Food

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FRESH SEAFOOD GOOD IRISH BEEF STEAKS 'Daily Specials'

for Breakfast, Lunch & Evening Dinner (A La' Carte)

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OPEN 7 DAYS 8 till LATE

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* GUARANTEED GOOD MUSIC & CRAIC *

......at Cryan's Riverside Bar

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Traditional Irish Music every Tuesday, Friday,

Saturday and Sunday Nights.

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* GUARANTEED A FRIENDLY STAY * .......at Cryan's

Riverside Bed & Breakfast So, for Good Music, Good

Food and a Friendly Stay come to....

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Bridge Street, Carrick on Shannon, Co.Leitrim. Tel: +

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Faulkinbury and FEEFHS, 1996

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Latest Update: 29 April 1996 This Web-Base is a

finding aid to the compiled voter registration data in

Jim W. Faulkinbury's "Foreign-Born Voters of

California in 1872". His compilation also contains

information regarding the naturalization of these

voters; namely the date, place and court of record

where the naturalization took place.

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Cryan, Thomas......39 in 1872......born in

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From: cryanaj@ozemail.com.au | Block Address | Add to Address Book

Organisation:          The Adjutant's Desk

To:      caoimhghin@yahoo.com

Date:  Mon, 7 May 2001 16:27:22 +1000

Subject:        Email Address change : A & J Cryan

Reply-to:       cryanaj@ozemail.com.au

Caoimhghin O Croidheain wrote:

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> ANTHONY+JILL CRYAN

> Email: cryanaj@ecn.net.au

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Hi folks

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Please alter this to cryanaj@ozemail.com.au

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cheers

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tc

Anthony & Jill Cryan

cryanaj@ozemail.com.au

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From: melodi609@cs.com | Block Address | Add to Address Book

Date:  Mon, 7 May 2001 11:24:59 EDT

Subject:        Re: CRYAN-D Digest V01 #29

To:      cryan-l@rootsweb.com

We are leaving shortly and will have no computer , so in the next

couple

weeks would love information on William Crane /Crane /Crehan and where

he

came from , said he was Irish and his wife Lucy/ Lavenia/ Lucinda Smith 

was 

a Baptist.they lived in New Brunswick, Canada in 1851 , eventually this

family moved to Maine .

It may not have been Cryan . I have submitted to different sites much

information on the descendants.

Thank you for  all email and God Bless. You may unsubscribe me at this

time.

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From: jsheerin@erols.com | Block Address | Add to Address Book

To:      caoimhghin@yahoo.com

Subject:        Re: Lyle's information on Cryans 3

Date:  Mon, 7 May 2001 15:29:58 -0400

To Whom???

 

In reference to your " Am interested in hearing from

anyone with information concerning the Cryans of Boyle

Parish. My own family is as follows"!!!

 

Well here's my family:

My G/Grandparents are your #3, that is,

Mary Ann Cryan and her husband James Brennan.

Their eldest child, Rose Ann Brennan, was my

Grandmother. She came to the States around 1894

and married my Grandfather Jeremiah Sheerin.

Jeremiah was born and raised in the Doon village

of Boyle.

I have all the family Bio's on James and Mary Ann's

Children. However, the only thing I have on 

Mary Ann is the following:

Mary Ann was living in Lower Deerpark and her

father was Michael Cryan when she married James

on 07 FEB 1870 at the Boyle Roman Catholic Church.  

They lived in Evikeens with James's family when

they first got married and then moved out to the

Boyle area. They had 7 known children and most

of them came to the Boston Area.

During the 1901 Census, James and Mary Ann were

living on T/Chapel Street in Boyle and living

with them at that time were their sons, James

and Patrick.  James also came to the Boston area.

Mary Ann eventually came to the Boston area,

must have been after her husband James died.

She lived with her daughter's, my Grandmother,

family in Chelmsford MA.

My Dad told me he remembered her. Mary Ann

died on 03 May 1927 and is buried in the Brennan

Family Plot in St. Patrick's Cemetery, Lowell MA.

I don't have any other family information on

Mary Ann Cryan, i.e. Parents, Siblings, etc.,

nor James Brennan. Can I assume that Mary Ann's

parents were Michael Cryan (1826) & Mary Durr(1829)?

 

I have the Bio's on all Mary Ann and James Brennan

children and their families.

 

Waiting to hear from you,

 

Jake Sheerin,

(formerly of Lowell MA now Annapolis MD)

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Date:  Mon, 7 May 2001 22:20:42 +0100 (BST)

From: caoimhghin@yahoo.com | Block Address | Add to Address Book

Subject:        Re: Lyle's information on Cryans 3

To:      cryan-l@rootsweb.com

Hi

Thanks for replying but the information belongs to

Lyle's site and I just copied it into an email to

publicise it for anyone not familiar with Lyle's site.

Maybe some one else will spot a connection? You can

never tell on the List!!

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regards

caoimhghin

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Date:  Tue, 08 May 2001 00:47:14 -0400

From: mornan@optonline.net | Block Address | Add to Address Book

Subject:        Cryan family update

Reply-to:       Maureen McCourt Nantista <mornan@optonline.net>

To:      cryan-l@rootsweb.com

Caoimhghin, Eve, Leslie & Lyle,

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With much appreciation and admiration for all your contributions to our

Cryan research!!

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To update my own small piece:

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 - attention Jake Sheerin - It seems there were two Mary Anne Cryans

with fathers Michael during the same time frame in the Boyle area. Since

we last communicated, I've been able to document that the one who

married James Brennan was NOT my great-grandaunt Mary Anne. She, together

with her parents and most of her siblings, emigrated to Lancashire,

England sometime between 1872 and her marriage there in 1875.

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 - all interested parties, please REPLACE my family data with the

following which reflects some changes and additions. Further details,

documentation and descendants can be provided.

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1. Peter Cryan (abt 1798)

sp Aracta Mattimoe (abt 1798)

   2. Catherine Cryan (1823 Boyle)

   2. Peter Cryan (1824 Boyle)

   2. Michael Cryan (1826 Boyle-1890 Eng.)

   sp Mary Durr (abt 1828 Ireland-1885 Eng.)

       3. Mary Anne Cryan (1853 Boyle)

       sp Reuben Bennett (abt 1854 Eng.)

           4. James W. Bennett (abt 1876 Eng.)

           4. Mary A. Bennett (abt 1878 Eng.)

           4. Ester Bennett  (abt 1879 Eng.)

           4. Jane Bennett (abt 1880 Eng.)

      3. Michael Cryan (1855 Boyle-1933 Boyle)

      sp Bridget Casey (1855 Boyle-1917 Boyle)

          4. Michael J. Cryan (1881 Boyle-1961 Boyle)

          4. Jane Cryan (1882 Boyle-1951 NY)

          sp Michael Cunningham (1881 Boyle-1962 NJ)

             5. Rita G. Cunningham (1909 NY-1919 NY)

             5. Muriel Cunningham (1916 NY-1990 Michigan)

             sp Alfred Farrell (1914-1985 NJ)

             5. Edward Cunningham (1920 NY- bef 2000)

             sp Sylvia ?

          4. John Cryan (1884 Boyle-1929 NY)

          sp Sarah McIntosh (1889 NY-1967 NY)

             5. Eileen Cryan (1920 NY-1972 NY)

             sp Cornelius McCourt (1915 NY)

          4. Bridget Cryan (1885 Boyle-1963 Boyle)

         sp James Scanlon (?Boyle-1973 Boyle)

          4. Patrick Joseph Cryan (1887 Boyle-1918 NY)

          sp Julia Gaine (1894 Ire.)

          4. Mary Anne Cryan (1888 Boyle-1894 Boyle)

          4. Peter Cryan (1890 Boyle-1917 Boyle)

          4. Catherine Cryan (1892 Boyle-1911 Boyle)

          4. Eugene Cryan (1894 Boyle-1913 Boyle)

          4. Francis Joseph Cryan (1897 Boyle-1960 Boyle)

          4. Leo Augustine Cryan (1899 Boyle-1981 Boyle)

      3. Margaret Cryan (1857 Boyle)

      sp James Scholes (abt 1860 Eng.)

         4. Mary Ellen Scholes (abt 1879 Eng.)

         sp Matthew Roberts (abt 1879 Eng.)

            5. William Wright Roberts (1899 Eng.)

            5. Matthew Roberts (1915 Eng.)

         4. Samuel Scholes (abt 1881 Eng.)

         4. James Scholes (abt 1882 Eng.)

      3. Peter Cryan (1860 Boyle)

      3. Patrick Cryan (1862 Boyle)

      3. John Cryan (1864 Boyle)

      3. John Cryan (1866 Boyle)

      sp Elizabeth Lord (abt 1873 Eng.)

      3. Catherine Cryan (1869 Boyle)

      3. Catherine Cryan (1870 Boyle)

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Happy and successful hunting to all!

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Maureen McCourt Nantista

(proud daughter of Eileen Cryan)

 

 

 Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 11:18:27 -0400

From: mornan@optonline.net | Block Address | Add to Address Book

Subject:        1933 Roscommon Herald, Michael Cryan

Reply-to:       Maureen McCourt Nantista <mornan@optonline.net>

To:      cryan-l@rootsweb.com

Hi 'Cryan' folks,

 

All this recent activity on our Cryan list has given me the needed push

to catch-up on some tasks. I finally sat down and transcribed my

great-grandfather Michael Cryan's 1933 obit in the Roscommon Herald. In the

article's concluding list of those who expressed their condolences, are

more than one hundred Boyle families with their street locations. I'll

gladly send this info upon request since they're not 'Cryans' and so

might not be of interest to those listers without connections to Boyle.

 

Of Michael's 11 children, three of his sons, Michael, J., Leo and

Francis formed the 'Boyle Havana Band' which was popular in that part of the

country.

 

Thanks for the inspiration!

 

Maureen McCourt Nantista

(proud daughter of Eileen Cryan :-)

 

The Roscommon Herald       Saturday, February 4, 1933

 

Death of Mr. Michael Cryan,

    Catholic Club, Boyle

        The death of Mr. Michael Cryan, senr., steward of the Catholic

Club Boyle, which occurred early on Thursday morning, 26th January,

will be heard with real regret by Boyle men at home and abroad, for there

was no man better known or more generally respected amongst Boyle

people, past and present, than he was. His passing takes away another of the

few in the ever narrowing circle of the old generation of Boyle men,

who were so proud of their native town and who worked so hard for its

spiritual and material welfare.

       The late Mr. Cryan had qualities of character as remarkable as

they were admirable. He was gifted with powers of memory high above the

average, and being keenly interested in history, public affairs and

current events generally, he was an exceedingly entertaining

conversationalist as well as a formidable opponent in debate. But it was for his

devotion to the Catholic faith that he was especially noted. He defended

the Faith with a vigour that could only have its source in unshakable

belief, and practised his religious duties with a scrupulous punctuality

and fervour that was edifying to all who witnessed it. One of the

greatest devotions of the Church with which he was closely associated was

the Sacred Heart and Temperance Association of which he was secretary for

40 years. The late Mr. Cryan was Steward of the Catholic Club since its

opening in 1915 and here the firmness and tact he exercised had the

rules carefully observed, and this, with attention to the affairs o!

f the Club generally, were factors that contributed mainly to its

success as an institution in the town.

        He lived to a fine old age and died deeply mourned by his

family and regretted by all who knew him. During his brief illness he was

visited by Rev. P.J. O'Leary, C.C., and also Very Rev. T. Canon Sharkey,

P.P., V.F., who administered the last rites of the Church on Wednesday

morning. The remains were brought to St. Joseph's on Thursday evening.

Solemn Requiem Mass for the eternal repose of his soul was celebrated

there on Saturday morning. The funeral took place on Friday, the 27th

January, to the family burial ground of Assylinn and was one of the

largest and most representative of Boyle funerals which passed through the

town for a long time. Very Rev. T. Canon Sharkey, P.P., V.F., assisted

by Rev. P. J. Hannon, C.C. officiated at the interment. The chief

mourners were: Michael, Frank and Leo (sons), Mrs. James Scanlon (daughter),

James Scanlon (son-in-law). We beg to tender to the members of the

family of the deceased, who are so well and popularly known over a gre!

at part of the West, our sincere sympathy in their bereavement. -

R.I.P.

       Telegrams and messages of sympathy were received from the

following: -

 

(list of names and locations)

 

Acknowledgement - The family of the late Michael Cryan wishes to thank

all who sent messages of sympathy, and also all those who were present

at the funeral.

 

Reply-to:       "FamSpack" < >

From:  | Block Address | Add to Address Book

Subject:        Robert CRYAN etc etc etc

Date:  Thu, 10 May 2001 15:45:27 +0100

To:      cryan-l@rootsweb.com

Hi Paul , I am back

I have some new info

 

Children of Robert WW CRYANand Mary Jane Elizabeth MATTHEWS,

 

Sybil FW          b 1887 d 1905

Helen MW         b 1892 d 1982 visited USA in 1922

Robert WW       b 1893 , I think married someone called Eugenie and

travelled with her to USA in 1921- possibly when they emigrated (maybe

the

reason for the name Eugene O'Neill in the family)

 

Cyril, Elinor,Harold and Edith  must fit between these and

 

Adrian MW         b 1901 and visited USA in 1924, probably married

after

this

 

This is all gleaned from the Ellis Island website which charts the

"processing through customs"

 

Also recorded are the following which are curious....who are they

visiting?

 

Name                          Place Residence          Year arrived

Age on arrival

Mrs RW CRYAN                                                  1892

22

Robert CRYAN                                                     1892

27

RW CRYAN                                                         1892

1

 

Mrs RWW CRYAN                                                1895

42

Robt CRYAN                                                         1897

20

Mrs RWW CRYAN             Dublin                          1903

35

Mrs RW CRYAN                 Pau                             1906

29

 

Robert W CRYAN               Dublin                          1921

28

Eugenie CRYAN                 Dublin                          1921

26

 

Helen CRYAN                     Dublin                          1922

30

Adrian CRYAN                    Dublin                          1924

23

Robert CRYAN                    London England           1924

34

 

It looks as if they are all a bit careless about their ages or their

are a

great many more Robert Cryans than we are aware of.

 

Eve...........separate email for other stuff

 

 

From: p_cryan@hotmail.com | Block Address | Add to Address Book

To:      caoimhghin@yahoo.com

Subject:        Family research

Date:  Thu, 10 May 2001 19:09:04 +0100

Hello Kevin,

 

I was in Dublin last week and my father Seamus Cryan gave me a letter

he

received from you. I found it a very interesting read so I logged onto

your

web site. I have never met you which is a surprise as I only moved to

Galway

2 months ago having lived in Swords for the last 25 years. I tried to

download info onto a floppy disk but was unable to. Could you tell me

what

is the best way to get Cryan info from the list?

 

I have researched my family tree as far back as I could but I have come

to a

standstill. I would be very interested if you have any records re. Lord

Lorton as he was the landlord of my ancestors holding.I would be

delighted

if you could be of some assistance or point me in the right direction

 

I have attached the 1901 and 1911 Census and also the TAB which relates

to

my family. My family were known as Cryan (Strong).

 

I am also wondering if you have been to the Sligo County Library and if

you

found it helpful in your research. I am also interested in researching

the

Irish War of Independence and Civil War in County Sligo. Would you know

of

any records in relation to same?

 

Looking forward to hearing from you.

 

Paul Cryan

 

Date:  Fri, 11 May 2001 21:42:58 +0100 (BST)

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Subject:        ellisisland.org/cryan/crine

To:      cryan-l@rootsweb.com

 Eve mentioned the Ellis Island site so I did a search

to see what material they have (I am not sure if this

hasnt been done before)

caoimhghin

  Exact Matches (168) 

  Name of Passenger Residence Arrived Age on Arrival 

 

1. ...chel Cryan        1921  28     

2. Mrs. R. W. Cryan        1892  22    

3. Mrs. R. W. Cryan    Pau    1906  29    

4. Mrs. R. W. W. Cryan        1895  42    

5. Mrs. R. W. W. Cryan    Dublin    1903  35    

6. Adrian Cryan    Dublin, Ireland    1924  23    

7. Agnes Cryan    Dublin    1913      

8. Agnes Cryan    Dublin, Ireland    1913  23    

9. Agnes Cryan    Boyle, Co Roscommon, Ireland    1921

 21    

10. Amy Cryan    London England    1921  37    

11. Amy Cryan    London, England    1922  39    

12. Annie Cryan    Ballymote    1894  21    

13. Annie Cryan    Dublin    1898  16    

14. Annie Cryan    Ghroof    1900  17    

15. Annie Cryan    Ghroof    1900  32    

16. Annie Cryan    Strokestown    1902  19    

17. Annie Cryan    Boyle, Ireland    1908  19    

18. Annie Cryan    Kittenaugh, Ireland    1912  22   

 

19. Annie Cryan    Bohola, Ireland    1912  22    

20. Annie Cryan    Strokestown, Ireland    1913 28   

 

21. Bridget Cryan    Boyle    1904  22    

22. Bridget Cryan    Boyle, Ireland    1908  20    

23. Bridget Cry..an    Moygara, Ireland    1910 11   

 

24. Bridget Cryan    Ballymote, America    1912  7   

 

25. Cath. Cryan    Edenberry    1893  23   

26. Catherine Cryan        1895  20    

27. Daisy Cryan    Ballymote, Ireland    1910  18    

28. Dominick Cryan    Gurteen, Ireland    1914  19   

 

29. Dominick Cryan    Co Sligo, Ireland    1915 19   

 

30. Dorothy Cryan    Paisley, Scotland    1923  39   

 

31. Edmund Cryan        1923  21    

32. Ellen Cryan    Ballaghadereen    1899  21    

33. Eugenie Cryan    Dublin, Ireland    1921  26    

34. F. Cryan    Dublin    1913      

35. Francis Cryan    Dublin, Ireland    1913  52    

36. Frank Cryan        1920  19    

37. Frank Cryan        1920  18    

38. Frank Cryan    Newark, N.J.    1922  21    

39. Helen Cryan    Dublin, Ireland    1922  30    

40. James Cryan        1894  26    

41. James Cryan    New York    1907  36    

42. James Cryan    Gurteen,Co.Sligo,Ireland 1910 19  

 

43. James Cryan    Dublin, Ireland    1913  29    

44. James Cryan    Seafin, Ireland    1915  25    

45. James Cryan    Monasteraden, Ireland    1915  30 

 

46. James William Cryan    Rosscoman, Ireland    1918

29    

47. Jane Cryan    Boyle    1902  18    

48. Jane Cryan    Ireland, Lisduff    1911  21    

49. Jno. Cryan        1893  24    

50. Johanna Cryan    Edmondstown, Ireland    1915    

 

51. John Cryan    Tygne    1892  23    

52. John Cryan        1895  22    

53. John Cryan        1896  24    

54. John Cryan    Ballaghadereen    1899  27    

55. John Cryan    Ghroof    1900  19    

56. John Cryan    London, England    1911  27    

57. John Cryan    Ballymote, Ireland    1913  19    

58. John Cryan    Paisley, Scotland    1923  28    

59. John J. Cryan    New York, N.Y.    1923  55    

60. John L. Cryan    Mohill, Ireland    1922  28    

61. Joseph Cryan    Jamaica Plaines, Mass.    1921  2

  

62. Joseph F. Cryan    New York City, N.Y., USA  

1919  36    

63. Julia A. Cryan    Beechhurst, L.I.    1924  47   

 

64. Kate Cryan        1895  25    

65. Kate Cryan        1895  22    

66. Kate Cryan        1897  25    

67. Kate Cryan    Boyle    1902  17    

68. Katie Cryan    Ballygar, Ireland    1912  28    

69. Lily Cryan    Ballymote, Ireland    1916  18    

70. Lizzie Cryan        1895  22    

71. Lizzie Cryan        1897  22    

72. Lora Cryan    Ballymote, Ireland    1912  19    

73. Maggie Cryan        1896  20    

74. Maggie Cryan    Ballaghderin, Ireland    1906  20

  

75. Maggie Cryan    Ballymote    1906  29    

 76. Margt. Cryan        1897  21    

77. Margt Cryan    Boyle    1900  18    

78. Margaret Cryan    Frenchpark, Ireland    1908  16

  

79. Maria Cryan    Castleplunket    1903  19    

80. Martha Cryan    Glasgow, Scotland    1923  22    

81. Martin Cryan    Cloonfinlough, Tulsk    1905  20 

 

82. Martin Cryan    Carrowrengh, Ireland    1915  17 

 

83. Martin J. Cryan    N. Y. C.    1913  28    

84. Mary Cryan        1893  20    

85. Mary Cryan        1895  20    

86. Mary Cryan        1897  21    

87. Mary Cryan    Carrovanaguilta    1902  22    

88. Mary Cryan    Brail, Dublin    1905  30    

89. Mary Cryan    Castlerea, Ireland    1907  21    

90. Mary Cryan    Dublin    1908  45    

91. Mary Cryan    Abbeygrey, Ireland    1909  22    

92. Mary Cryan    Ballymote, Ireland    1909  27    

93. Mary Cryan    Dublin, Ireland    1920  52    

94. Mary A. Cryan        1896  20    

95. Mary A. Cryan    Moygara    1905  20    

96. Mary E. Cryan    Ballymote, Ireland    1910  18  

 

97. Mary Ellen Cryan    Bellymote, Ireland    1913  20

   

98. Matthew Cryan    Balleymote, Ireland    1910  22 

 

99. Matthew J. Cryan    Newark, N.J.    1918  29    

100. Michl. Cryan        1893  22 

101. Michael Cryan    Ballaghadereen    1896  24    

102. Michael Cryan    Ireland    1902  21    

103. Michael Cryan    Manchester    1903  25    

104. Michael Cryan    Ballymote, Ireland    1916  14 

 

105. Michael Cryan        1919  18    

106. Michael Cryan    Newark, N. J.    1919  18    

107. Michael Cryan    New York    1919  18    

108. Michael Cryan        1919  18    

109. Michael Cryan        1919  17    

110. Michael Cryan        1919  17    

111. Michael Cryan    Haddersfield, England    1920

26    

112. Michael Cryan        1921  18    

113. Michael Cryan        1921  18    

114. Michael Cryan        1921  18    

115. Michael Cryan        1921  28    

116. Michael Cryan        1921  28    

117. Michael Cryan        1921  21    

118. Michael Cryan        1921  21    

119. Michael F Cryan    Co Sligo, Keash, Ireland  

1916  15    

120. Michael F Cryan        1922  30    

121. Mike Cryan    Achonry    1898  20    

122. Nora Cryan        1897  20    

123. Nora Cryan    Achonry    1898  18    

124. Pat Cryan    Co. Leitrim    1893  21    

125. Patrick Cryan    Glasgow    1902  36    

126. Patrick Cryan    Ballymore    1903  24    

127. Patrick Cryan    Castlerea    1904  25    

128. Patrick Cryan    County Calway    1906  23    

129. Patrick Cryan    Cappa, Ireland    1910  21    

130. Patrick Cryan    New Jersey    1913  35    

131. Patrick Cryan    New York    1913  26    

132. Patrick Cryan    New York, U.S.A.    1913  26    

 

133. Patrick Cryan    New York, U.S.A.    1913  26   

 

134. Patrick Cryan    Ballymote, Ireland    1915  28 

 

135. Patrick Cryan        1923  30    

136. Patrick Cryan        1924  40    

137. Patrick Cryan    Glasgow, Scotland    1924  27  

 

138. Patk. J. Cryan    Boyle    1906  19    

139. Patrick J. Cryan    Charlestown, Ireland    1913

24    

140. Peter Cryan        1895  21    

141. Peter Cryan    Castlerea    1899  24    

142. Peter Cryan    Ireld    1912  21    

143. Robt. Cryan    Liverpool    1892  25    

144. Robert Cryan        1892  27    

145. Rbt. Cryan        1897  20    

146. Robert Cryan    London, England    1924  34    

147. Robert W. Cryan    Dublin, Ireland    1921  28  

 

148. Rose Cryan    Lowell, Mass.    1917  22    

149. R. W. Cryan        1892  1    

150. Sarah Cryan    Ballygar, Ireland    1905  22 

151. Sarah Cryan    Tulsk, Co. Roscommon, Ireland  

1920  19    

152. Sarah A. Cryan    Frenchpark, Ireland    1911  18

   

153. Thomas Cryan    Strokestown    1900  20    

154. Thomas Cryan    Boyle    1905  19    

155. Thomas Cryan    Boyle    1905  19    

156. Thomas Cryan    Moygara, Co. Slayo    1906  19  

 

157. Thomas Cryan    Ballaghadeim, Ireland    1911  17

   

158. Thomas Cryan    Staten Island, N.Y.    1912  28 

 

159. Thomas Cryan    Lisalway, Ireland    1914  24   

 

160. Thomas Cryan    Edmondstown, Ireland    1915    

 

161. Thomas Cryan    Clogher, Ireland    1923  19    

162. Thomas Eugene Cryan    Cleveland, Ohio    1924

27    

163. Thomas V. Cryan    New York, N.Y.    1922  53   

 

164. Thomas V. Cryan    Beechhurst, L.I.    1924  50 

 

165. Thomas W. Cryan    Seafin, Ireland    1917  26  

 

166. Wm. Cryan    Frenchpark    1905  22    

167. William Cryan        1922  47    

168. M. Cryan        1919  18   

 

 

  Exact Matches (5) 

  Name of Passenger Residence Arrived Age on Arrival 

 

1. Giuseppe Cri...ne    Biscari, Siracusa    1911  16

  

2. Harriet B. Crine        1903      

3. James Crine    Mossend, Scotland    1922  24    

4. Paolo Crine    Castroreale    1906  38    

5. Thomas Crine    Mossend, Scotland    1922  27   

 

 

 

 

Date:  Fri, 11 May 2001 22:00:09 +0100 (BST)

From: caoimhghin@yahoo.com | Block Address | Add to Address Book

Subject:        ellisisland.org/creans

To:      cryan-l@rootsweb.com

 

  Exact Matches (307) 

  Name of Passenger Residence Arrived Age on Arrival 

 

1. A. Crean    Southampton    1897  37    

2. Aggie Crean    Ballina    1892  25    

3. Agnes Crean        1910  28    

4. Agnes Crean    New York    1923  26    

5. Alice Crean        1895  70    

6. Andrew Crean    Cork    1895  22    

7. Andrew Crean    Carndonagh, Co. Donegal, Ireland  

1924  18    

8. Anna Crean    Clonmel, Ireland    1913  20    

9. Anne Crean    Charlestown, Ireland    1921  54    

10. Annie Crean    Trune    1898  13    

11. Annie Crean    Enniscorthy    1901  19    

12. Annie Crean    Swinford    1904  19    

13. Annie Crean    Ballyvary    1905  21    

14. Annie Crean        1905  14     

15. Annie Crean    Currower    1905  19    

16. Annie Crean    Ballina    1906  18    

17. Annie Crean        1907  21    

18. Annie Crean        1910  24    

19. Annie Crean    Normanton, England    1911  15    

20. Annie Crean    Culeens, Ireland    1911  17    

21. Annie Crean    Nailsworth, England    1914  26   

 

22. Annie Crean    Ballyragt, Ireland    1915  24    

23. Annie Crean    Woonsocket, U.S.A.    1924  57    

24. Anthony Crean    Ballina, Ireland    1920  22    

25. Anthony Crean    Townlacgnt, Ireland    1920  22 

 

26. Anthony Crean    Corballa, Ireland    1921  25   

 

27. Anthony Crean    Leeds, England    1923  32    

28. Arora Crean    Kenilworth, USA    1916  11    

29. Bernard Crean        1920  18    

30. Bernard Crean        1920  20    

31. Bridget Crean        1896  19    

32. Bridget Crean    near Ballina    1898  19    

33. Bridget Crean    Ballinvary    1899  18    

34. Bridget Crean    Enniscorthy    1901  21    

35. Bridget Crean    Castlerea    1904  24    

36. Bridget Crean    Ballygar    1904  20    

37. Bridget Crean    Ballina, Ireland    1908  21    

38. Bridget Crean    Sligo, Ireland    1910  21    

39. Bridget Crean    Bonniconlon, Ireland    1920  17

  

40. Bridget Crean    Gary, Ind.    1920  27    

41. Bridget Crean    Castlegregory, Ire.    1921  23 

 

42. Bridget Crean    Ballina, Ireland    1924  20    

43. Bridget Crean    Tralee, Ireland    1924  24    

44. Bridget Mary Crean    Ballyphilip, Ireland    1922

 29    

45. Catherine Crean        1896  18    

46. Cath Crean    Castlegregory    1899  19    

47. Catherine Crean    Castlegregory    1899  19    

48. Catherine Crean    Bofield    1905  24    

49. Catherine Crean    New York    1906  29    

50. Catherine Crean    Camp, Ireland    1909  20   

51. Catherine Crean    Inchingeela, Ireland    1910

23    

52. Cathleen Crean    New York, N.Y.    1922  7    

53. Celia Crean    Ballina    1902  19    

54. Celia Crean    Culleens, Ireland    1909  26    

55. Celia Crean    Cargan, Ireland    1920  23    

56. Charles Crean    Cork    1903  6    

57. Charles Crean    Cork    1903  35    

58. Charles Crean    Carndonagh, Ireland    1920  22 

 

59. Charlotte Crean        1909  18    

60. Charlotte E. Crean        1907      

61. Con Crean    Cork    1900  19    

62. Daniel Crean        1897  25    

63. Danl. Crean    Cork    1904  30    

64. Daniel Crean    Cork    1904  33    

65. Daniel Crean        1913  42    

66. Edward Crean    Castlegregory    1900  20    

67. Edward Crean    Ballina    1903  26    

68. Edward Crean    Ballena    1903  26    

69. Edward Crean    York    1903  25    

70. Edward Crean        1914  30    

71. Edward Crean    Ballina, Ireland    1924  23    

72. Edward Crean    Ballina, Ireland    1924  23    

73. Eleanor M. Crean    Capetown, S. Africa    1920

45    

74. Elizabeth Crean    Leeds, England    1923  28    

75. Ellen Crean        1896  22   

76. Ellen Crean    Macroom    1898  18    

77. Ellen Crean    Sligo    1900  18    

78. Ellen Crean...    Clasanorin, Ireland    1906  55

  

79. Ellie Crean    Ballina, Ireland    1910  18    

80. Emma Crean    Bonnicolon, Ireland    1920  23    

81. Eunnia Crean    Ballina    1892  23    

82. Felix Crean    Cullens, Ireland    1920  34    

83. Florence V. Crean    Chestnut Hill, Pa.    1923

48    

84. Florence V. Crean    Philadelphia, Pa.    1924  49

   

85. Frederick E. Crean    Capetown, S. Africa    1920

44    

86. Hannah Crean    Cork    1906  26    

87. Hannah Crean    Camp, Ireland    1909  20    

88. Hannah Crean        1913  25    

89. Hannie Crean    Aunascaul, Ireland    1920  18   

 

90. Hanora Crean    Castlegregory, Ireland    1916  26

   

91. Helen Crean    London, England    1916  23    

92. Helen L.M. Crean    Liverpool, England    1919  25

   

93. Henry Crean    Normanton, England    1911  20    

94. Hugh Crean        1894  26    

95. Hugh Crean    Castlegregory    1895  19    

96. Hugh Crean        1895  40    

97. Hugh Crean    Fralee    1897  29    

98. Hugh Crean    Tralee    1898  21    

99. Hugh Crean    Camp, Ireland    1921  20    

100. J. Crean    County Lerry    1906  2    

 101. James Crean    Tralee    1895  20    

102. James Crean    Tralee    1895  27    

103. James Crean        1897      

104. James Crean        1900  24    

105. James Crean    Easkey    1906  19    

106. James Crean    Cullune, Ireland    1909  21     

107. James Crean    Rallins, Ireland    1913  25    

108. James Crean    ... Ireland    1915  22    

109. James Crean    Kenilworth, USA    1916  49    

110. James Crean    Moyne, Ireland    1920  28    

111. James Crean    Moyne, Ireland    1920  28    

112. James Crean    Liverpool, England    1922  34   

 

113. Jane Crean    Tralee    1900  18    

114. Jane Crean    Creggs, Ireland    1915  18    

115. Jno. Crean    Ireland    1892  28    

116. Jennie Crean    Tralee    1904  20    

117. Jennie Crean    Tralce, Ireland    1909  28    

118. Jeremiah Crean    Castlegregory, Ireland    1906

19    

119. Jeremiah Crean    Cork, Ireland    1909  28    

120. Jeremiah Crean    Buffalo, N.Y.    1910  48    

121. Jerry Crean    Cork    1903  11     

122. Jerry Crean    Garry, Ind.    1920  33    

123. Jerry Crean    Liverpool, England    1920  22   

 

124. John Crean    Tralee    1892  27    

125. John Crean        1895  41   

126. John Crean    near Ballina    1898  21    

127. John Crean    Trune    1898  19    

128. John Crean    Trulee    1903  23    

129. John Crean    Golborn    1903  26    

130. John Crean    Ballina    1905  24    

131. John Crean    Kilbigret Kings Court    1906  25 

 

132. John Crean    New York City    1906  2    

133. John Crean    Camp, Ireland    1907  20    

134. John Crean    Camp, Ireland    1909  39    

135. John Crean    Ballaghaderin, Ireland    1910  30

  

136. John Crean    Adamstown, Ireland    1911  31    

137. John Crean    Ireland, Dublin    1911  26    

138. John Crean    Macroom, Ireland    1913  22    

139. John Crean    New York    1923  27    

140. John Crean    Castlegregory, Ireland    1924  27

  

141. John Francis Crean    London    1904  36    

142. John T. Crean    Cork, Ireland    1910  36    

143. Joseph Crean    Calooney, Ireland    1908  26   

 

144. Joseph Crean    Belfast, Ireland    1921  29    

145. Joseph Crean        1923  30    

146. Josephine Crean    Belfast, Ireland    1912  27 

 

147. Julia Crean    Cork, Ireland    1920  21    

148. Kate Crean    Ireland    1894  20    

149. Kate Crean        1895  18    

150. Kate Crean        1896  19    

  151. Kate Crean    Castlegregory    1900  19    

152. Kate Crean    Ballina    1903  18    

153. Kate Crean    Kiltsmagh, Ireland    1909  25    

154. Kate E. Crean    Ballina, Ireland    1923  21   

 

155. Katie Crean    Ballygai Ireland    1909  23    

156. Katie Crean    Annascaul, Ireland    1912  21   

 

157. Kitty Crean    Ballina, Ireland    1910  24    

158. Lillian Crean        1910  21    

159. Lillian Crean    Belfast, Ireland    1912  29   

 

160. Lillian F. Crean        1907  13    

161. Lizzie Crean    Belfast    1899  23    

162. Lizzie Crean    Tralee    1903  39    

163. Lizzie Crean    Ballina, Ireland    1923  22    

164. Madge Crean    London, England    1913  25    

165. Maggie Crean        1894  19    

166. Maggie Crean    Ballina, Ireland    1904  25    

167. Maggie Crean    Moyue    1905  20    

168. Maggie Crean    Kiltimagh, Ireland    1909  20  

 

169. Marg. Crean        1895  16    

170. Margt. Crean    Ballinvary    1899  21    

171. Margaret Crean    Tryhill, Ballygar, Ireland  

1913  21    

172. Margaret Crean    Boston, Mass.    1919  46    

173. Margaret Crean    Attymass, Ireland    1920  19 

 

174. Margaret Crean    New York, N.Y.    1922  9    

175. Margaret Crean    Lispole, Ireland    1923  36  

 

176. Margareth Crean    Hobocken, N.Y.    1915  41   

 

177. Margret Crean    Longford    1892  45    

178. Maria Crean    Breafy    1897  19    

179. Marie Crean    Lakewood, N., U. S. A.    1909  33

   

180. Marie Crean        1915  22    

181. Martha Crean    Cork    1903  33    

182. Martin Crean        1894  31    

183. Martin Crean        1895  20    

184. Martin Crean    Tralee    1898  23    

185. Martin Crean    Cargan    1905  22    

186. Martin Crean    Dublin, Ireland    1909  26    

187. Martin Crean    Knockelass Camp, Ireland    1910

21    

188. Martin Crean    Ballymor, Ireland    1910  19   

 

189. Martin Crean    Camp, Ireland    1911  22    

190. Martin J Crean    Innescrone Cosligs, Ireland  

1910  22    

191. Mary Crean        1893  19    

192. Mary Crean    Castlegregory    1895  45    

193. Mary Crean        1896  19    

194. Mary Crean        1897  23    

195. Mary Crean    Aughhasata    1899  20    

196. Mary Crean    Macroom    1900  18    

197. Mary Crean    Macroom    1900  25    

198. Mary Crean    Ballina    1902  18    

199. Mary Crean    Castlerea    1902  16    

200. Mary Crean    Dingle    1904  22    

 201. Mary Crean    Lligo, Ireland    1904  21    

202. Mary Crean    Ballina    1905  19    

203. Mary Crean    Castlegregory    1905  19    

204. Mary Crean    Ballina    1905  20    

205. MARY CREAN    CARRACUM    1905  21    

206. Mary Crean    Camp, Ireland    1907  21    

207. Mary Crean    Knockmore, Ireland    1908  24    

208. Mary Crean    Crossmolina, Ireland    1908  34  

 

209. Mary Crean    Ballina    1909  25    

210. Mary Crean    Shinrone, Ireland    1909  36    

211. Mary Crean    Camp, Ireland    1909      

212. Mary Crean    Castlegregory, Ireland    1909     

 

213. Mary Crean        1910  42    

214. Mary Crean    Normanton, England    1911  18    

215. Mary Crean    Ballina, Ireland    1913  20    

216. Mary Crean    Ballina, Ireland    1913  20    

217. Mary Crean    Yonkers, U.S.A.    1914  5    

218. Mary Crean    Camp., Ireland    1914  25    

219. Mary Crean    Mallow, Ireland    1915  19    

220. Mary Crean    Kenilworth, USA    1916  49    

221. Mary Crean    Ballina, Ireland    1924  21    

222. Mary Crean    Ballina, Ireland    1924  21    

223. Mary Teresa Crean    New York, N.Y.    1922  11 

 

224. Maurice Crean    Adamstown, Ireland    1911  30 

 

225. Maurice J. Crean    Chestnut Hill, Pa.    1923

56    

 226. Maurice J. Crean    Philadelphia, Pa.    1924

57    

227. Mel. Crean        1896  22    

228. Michael Crean    Castlegregory    1895  19    

229. Michael Crean    Dunmanway    1900  22    

230. Michael Crean    Tralee    1900  22    

231. Michael Crean    Tralee    1900  22    

232. Michael Crean    Manchester, England    1908  18

  

233. Michael Crean    Jersey City, NJ USA    1911  30

  

234. Michael Crean    Castlegregory, Ireland    1923

24    

235. Michael Crean    Ballinna, Mayo, Ireland    1924

20    

236. Nancy Crean    Castlegregory    1895  17    

237. Nellie Crean    Castlegregory, Ire    1907  19  

 

238. Nellie Crean    Camp, Ireland    1909  30    

239. Nellie Crean    Castlegregory, Ireland    1909

30    

240. Nellie Crean    Yonkers, U.S.A.    1914  40    

241. Nellie Crean    ... Ireland    1914  20    

242. Nicholas Crean    New York    1906  2    

243. Nollie Crean    Holyoke, Mass., America    1921

36    

244. Norah Crean    Bonniconlon, Ireland    1920  26 

 

245. Patrick Crean    Kerry    1892  19    

246. Patrick Crean        1892  36    

247. Patrick Crean        1893  22    

248. Patrick Crean    Ballinasloe    1897  56    

249. Patk Crean    Castlegregory    1902  26    

250. Patrick Crean    Clifder    1903  28    

 251. Patrick Crean    Castlegregory    1904  22    

252. Patrick Crean    Ballymoe, Ireland    1906  23  

 

253. Patrick Crean    Castlegregory, Ireland    1906

26    

254. Patrick Crean    New York    1909  60    

255. Patrick Crean    Rallins, Ireland    1913  25   

 

256. Patrick Crean    Ballyphilly, Ireland    1915  19

   

257. Patrick Crean    Belfast, Ireland    1920  29   

 

258. Patrick Crean    Belfast, Ireland    1922  2    

259. Patrick Crean    Leeds, England    1923  36    

260. Patrick A. Crean    Ballina    1903  20    

261. Patrick J Crean    New York    1916  25    

262. Peter Crean    Claremorris, Ireland    1910  22 

 

263. Peter Crean        1920  34    

264. Peter Crean        1921  45    

265. Philip Crean    Liverpool, England    1922  25  

 

266. Richard Crean    Camp Kerry    1904  23    

267. Richard Crean    Watertown, Mass.    1919  58   

 

268. Robert Crean    Calooney, Ireland    1908  24   

 

269. Roland Crean    Kenilworth, USA    1916  16    

270. Romas J Crean    London    1906  33    

271. Rose Crean    Belfast, Ireland    1922  26    

272. Sarah Crean    Ballina, Ireland    1907  17    

273. Sarahanne Crean    Ballina, Ireland    1909  21 

 

274. Sylvester Crean        1919  26    

275. Sylvester Crean    L'pool    1919     

276. Thos. Crean    Q'town    1892  27    

277. Thomas Crean    Tralee    1895  19    

278. Thomas Crean    Castlegregory    1895  45    

279. Thomas Crean    Tralee    1899  11    

280. Thomas Crean    Ballina    1900  20    

281. Thomas Crean        1910  42    

282. Thomas Crean    Jersey City, N.J.    1910  37   

 

283. Thomas Crean    Normanton, England    1911  22  

 

284. Thomas Crean    Dublin, Ireland    1922  22    

285. Thomas Crean    Blackburn, England    1923  26  

 

286. Thos. F. Crean    U.S.A.    1895  26    

287. Thomas F. Crean        1907  39    

288. Timothy Crean        1895  24    

289. Timothy Crean    Castlegregory, Ireland    1909

24    

290. Timothy Crean    Tullig, Ireland    1915  19    

291. Victoria Crean    London    1906  25    

292. W. Crean    County Lerry    1906  9    

293. William Crean    Golborn    1903  23    

294. William Crean    San Francisco, Cal.    1906  27

  

295. William Crean    U.S.    1909  24    

296. William Crean        1918  21    

297. William Crean    Dublin, Ireland    1922  23    

298. William Crean        1924  28    

299. William B. Crean        1917  20    

300. William B. Crean        1920  23   

301. William B. Crean        1920  23    

302. William E. Crean        1920  23    

303. William J. Crean        1924  36    

304. ..... Crean    Ballina    1899  20    

305. Mrs. Crean    San Francisco, Cal.    1906  22   

 

306. Mrs. Crean    County Lerry    1906  29    

307. Mrs. Crean        1907  33    

 

Date:  Fri, 11 May 2001 22:10:23 +0100 (BST)

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Subject:        ellisisland.org/crehan

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  Exact Matches (124) 

  Name of Passenger Residence Arrived Age on Arrival 

 

1. Ann Crehan        1897  16    

2. Ann Crehan    Ennis    1897  16    

3. Annie Crehan    New York, America    1909  28    

4. Annie Crehan    Ballygas, Ireland    1909  28    

5. Annie Crehan    Kilfinane, Ireland    1910  26    

6. Bernard Crehan    Ballygar, Ireland    1908  26   

 

7. Bernard Crehan    Bellew, Ireland    1909  30    

8. Bernard Crehan    Toomard, Ireland    1915  35    

9. Bridget Crehan    Co. Galway    1893  19    

10. Bridget Crehan        1895  21    

11. Bdgt. Crehan    Ballygas, Ireland    1900  21    

12. Bridget Crehan    Ballygar    1904  20    

13. Bridget Crehan    Ballygar, Ireland    1907  18  

 

14. Bridget Crehan    Ballygar, Ireland    1911  20  

 

15. Bridget Crehan    Mount Bellow, Co. Galway,

Ireland    1924  20    

16. Cath Crehan    Ballygar    1899  19    

17. Catherine Crehan    Mount Bellew    1903  17    

18. Cath. Crehan    Mount...    1905  40    

19. Cecelia Crehan    New York, America    1911  33  

 

20. Celia Crehan    U.S.    1909  28    

21. David Crehan    Mountballow, Ireland    1920  21 

 

22. Delia Crehan    Montbellow, Ireland    1910  35  

 

23. Delia Crehan    Ballmasluc, Ireland    1913  28  

 

24. Delia Crehan    Ballinamore, Ireland    1915  18 

 

25. Edward Aloysuis Crehan    Port of Spain, West

Indies    1915  54   

26. Ellen Crehan    ...lasla    1901  20    

27. Ellie Crehan    Limerick    1903  7    

28. Herbert Crehan        1907  45    

29. James Crehan        1896  23    

30. James Crehan    Cork    1902  19    

31. James Crehan        1907  58    

32. James Crehan    Chesterfield, England    1909  25

  

33. James Crehan    Ballysheedy, Ireland    1912  18 

 

34. James Crehan    Ireland    1915  19    

35. James Crehan    New York, N.Y.    1921  35    

36. Jane Crehan    Mount Bellew    1901  17    

37. Joha. Crehan    Limerick    1897  18    

38. Johannah Crehan    Lizzagry, Ireland    1908  29 

 

39. John Crehan    Galway, Ireland    1906  22    

40. John Crehan    New Bridge, Ireland    1907  37   

 

41. John Crehan    Ballinasloe, Ireland    1911  26  

 

42. John Crehan    Toomara, Ireland    1915  23    

43. John Crehan    Mount Bellew, Co. Galway, Ireland 

 1924  25    

44. John Francis Crehan    Hingham, Mass    1923  56 

 

45. Joseph Crehan    Malbay, Ireland    1920  22    

46. Julia Crehan        1897  17    

47. Kate Crehan        1897  18    

48. Kate Crehan    Ennis    1897  18    

49. Kate Crehan    Mountbellew    1905  17    

50. Katie Crehan    Ballygar    1902  19    

 51. Katie Crehan    Galway, Ireland    1906  18    

52. Katie Crehan    Cappagh, Ireland    1908  19    

53. Katie Crehan    Bellew, Ireland    1909  18    

54. Katie Crehan    Ballinasloe, Ireland    1911  19 

 

55. Katie Crehan    Pwlridge, Ireland    1912  19    

56. Katie Crehan    Fulberquin, Ireland    1912  28  

 

57. Katie Crehan    Mayo, Ireland    1920  22    

58. Katie Crehan    Creeveroe, Ireland    1922  25   

 

59. Laurence Crehan    Ballygar    1905  21    

60. Maggie Crehan    Ballygar    1904  17    

61. Maggie Crehan    Ballinacor, Ireland    1908  19 

 

62. Margt. Crehan        1896  24    

63. Margaret Crehan    Foyhill Ballygan, Ireland  

1906  20    

64. Mark Crehan        1913  39    

65. Marks Crehan    Cappagh, Ireland    1921  22    

66. Marks Crehan    Caffagh, Ireland    1921  22    

67. Mary Crehan    Ballygar    1903  19    

68. Mary Crehan    Mount Bellew    1903  22    

69. Mary Crehan    Mount Bellew    1903  20    

70. Mary Crehan    Ballygan, Ireland    1906  18    

71. Mary Crehan    Bellew, Ireland    1909  16    

72. Mary Crehan    Shanahen, Ireland    1912  18    

73. Mary Crehan    Ballinasloe, Ireland    1913  32  

 

74. Mary Crehan    Ballingmoe, Ireland    1913  28   

 

75. Mary Crehan        1913     

76. Mary Crehan    New York, America    1914  25    

77. Mary Crehan    Rushertown, Ireland    1920  18   

 

78. Mary Crehan    Ireland    1920  18    

79. Mary Crehan    Newbridge, Ireland    1920  22    

80. Mary Crehan    Ireland    1922  20    

81. Mary Crehan    Moylough, Co. Galway, Ireland  

1924  20    

82. Mary A. Crehan    Miltownmalboy, Ireland    1908

22    

83. Mary A Crehan    Newbridge Co.alway, Ireland  

1909  23    

84. Mary D. Crehan    Ballimanare, Ire.    1922  21  

 

85. Mary Delia Crehan    Ballyvoneen, Ireland    1922

20    

86. Mary T. Crehan    Roscommon, Ireland    1920  18 

 

87. Mary T. Crehan    Rosscommon, Ireland    1920  18

  

88. Mathew Crehan    Ballygar, Ireland    1911  18   

 

89. Matt Crehan    Ballygae    1893  20    

90. Matt Crehan        1895  21    

91. Matthew Crehan    Rushstoma, Ireland    1910  30 

 

92. Matthew J. Crehan    Boston, America    1907  29 

 

93. Maurice Crehan    Dingle    1901  27    

94. Michael Crehan    Loughrea,    1895  32    

95. Michl. Crehan        1901  62    

96. Michael Crehan    Ballinastague, Co. Galway  

1905  27    

97. Michael Crehan    Sheffield    1906  29    

98. Michael Crehan    Montbellow, Ireland    1910  24

  

99. Michael Crehan    Coradrum, Ireland    1921  22  

 

100. Mollie Crehan    Miltown Malboy    1906  23   

101. Nora Crehan        1911  28    

102. Nora Crehan    Rushestown, Ireland    1916  38  

 

103. Norah Crehan    Ballygar    1904  20    

104. Owen Crehan    Chesterfield    1904  22    

105. Patrick Crehan    Ennie, Ireland    1910  22    

106. Sabas Crehan        1920  35    

107. Sabina Crehan    Moylough    1902  28    

108. Sabina Crehan    Ballinasloe, Co. Galway, Ireland

   1924  21    

109. Sarah Crehan        1903      

110. Teresa Crehan    Earlestown, England    1910  24

  

111. Thos. Crehan    Moylough    1902  22    

112. Thomas Crehan    Ballygar    1903  23    

113. Thomas Crehan    Mount Bellew    1904  56    

114. Thomas Crehan    Lisnagry    1905  21    

115. Thomas Crehan    Ballysar    1909  26    

116. Thomas Crehan    Ballygar, Ireland    1913  18  

 

117. Thomas Crehan    Ennis, Ireland    1921  20    

118. Thomas Crehan    Shanahea, Ireland    1921  20  

 

119. Thomas Crehan    Maltby, England    1923  26    

120. Thomas M. Crehan    Earlestown, England    1910

24    

121. Timothy Crehan    NY, USA    1914  27    

122. Timothy Crehan        1914  37    

123. William Crehan        1896  52    

124. William Crehan    Kilfinane, Ireland    1912  24

 

Date:  Fri, 11 May 2001 22:22:30 +0100 (BST)

From: caoimhghin@yahoo.com | Block Address | Add to Address Book

Subject:        The Belfast Newsletter Index Database Search Page

To:      cryan-l@rootsweb.com

No cryans,crien,or crehan and 2 creans

 

2 Documents Retrieved

 

Displaying Document 1 to 2

 

 

155766 23 - 26 Dec. 1777  3 +Donaghadee port

intelligence 13 sailed $Yacht =Dillon,Thomas

=Dillon,Edward

=Bar,Dr. =Crean,Mary/Miss =Houston,Rev. 15 arrived

$Hillsborough mail $Prince

16 17 passengers 18 $Fairford 19 $Charlotte 20 21.

 NIRL

SHIP

 

161450 5 - 8 Dec. 1780  3 let 25 Mar. farms

=Palmerston,Lord estate parish +Abamlish Co. +Sligo

+Mountemple. +Drimfad +Aghagads +Clerogh +Grellagh

+Derilihane =Sweeny,Hugh

=Crean,Francis +Creevey =M''Morey +Cartronplank.

+Ballynabuck road

+Ballyshannon =Hatch,John =Lyons,Robert +Dublin

=Dickson,James merchant Oct.

30.

 ADLAND

 

Date:  Fri, 11 May 2001 22:35:31 +0100 (BST)

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Subject:        Baslic Cemetery Co. Roscommon - Inscriptions (some Cryans)

To:      cryan-l@rootsweb.com

Baslic Cemetery Co. Roscommon - Inscriptions

 

http://homepage.eircom.net/%7Ekevm/Baslic/Baslic_2.htm

 

Surname

 First Name

 Address

 Date of Death

 Age

   

 

Connelly

 Martin

 Baslic

 2-Nov-1881

 25

  

 

 

 John

  

 11-Jun-1901

 85

 His Father

 

  Gill

 John

 Brakloon

 21-Sep-1987

  

 Also the McDermott Family

 

  

 

Kelly

 Patrick

 Baslic

 8-Dec-1933

  

  

 

Oates

 Thomas

  

 11-Apr-1925

  

  

 

Oates

 Catherine

  

 21-May-1951

  

  

 

Kelly

 Nora

  

 10-Feb-1989

  

 

Lavin

 Thomas

 Lisalway

 23-Nov-1939

  

 

 

 Sara

  

 24-Sep-1940

  

 His Wife

 

Finan

 Anne

  

 12-Aug-1937

  

 His Daughter

 

 

 Patrick

  

 18-Mar-1950

  

 His Brother

 

  

 

Cryan

 Michael

 Baslic

  

  

 Martha

  

 18-Aug-1994

  

 His Wife

 

 

 Michael

  

  

  

 His Son

 

 

 Patrick

  

  

  

 His Father

 

 

 Ellen

  

  

  

 His Mother

 

Rabbitte

 Mary

  

  

  

 Nee Cryan

 

 

 

Kelly

 John

 Corlis

 13-Mar-1875

 76

  

 

Kelly

 James

 Corlis

  

  

     

 Cloonbard

 31-Mar-1984

  

 Erected by Michael Kelly Castlerea

 

 

 

Irwin

 Henry

 Tulla

 8-Jul-1980

 74

  

 

    

 

Coyne

 Winfred

  

 3-Jan-1863

 32

  

 

 

Kelly

 Michael

  

 Feb-1862

  

  

 Marcella

  

 25-Jul-1863

 68

 His Mother

 

 

 Patrick

  

 12-Mar-1866

 73

 His Father

 

 

 

Kelly

 Thomas

 Corlis

 3-Feb-1960

 85

  

 

 

 Mary

  

 13-Apr-1970

 75

 His Wife

 

 

 Mark

  

 9-Jul-1978

 3 Months

 His Grandson

 

 

 Michael

  

 1-Aug-1988

  

 His Son

 

Connelly

 Martin

 Baslic

 2-Nov-1881

 25

  

 

Connelly

 John

  

 11-Jun-1901

 85

  

 

Coyne

 Winfred

  

 3-Jan-1863

 32

  

 

Cryan

 Michael

 Baslic

  

  

 

Cryan

 Martha

  

 18-Aug-1994

  

  

 

Cryan

 Michael

  

  

Cryan

 Patrick

  

  

 

Cryan

 Ellen

  

  

 

Finan

 Anne

  

 12-Aug-1937

  

  

 

Gill

 John

 Brakloon

 21-Sep-1987

  

 Also the McDermott Family

 

Irwin

 Henry

 Tulla

 8-Jul-1980

 74

  

 

Kelly

 Patrick

 Baslic

 8-Dec-1933

  

  

 

Kelly

 Nora

  

 10-Feb-1989

  

  

 

Kelly

 John

 Corlis

 13-Mar-1875

 76

   

Kelly

 James

 Corlis

  

  

  

 

Kelly

  

 Cloonbard

 31-Mar-1984

  

  

 

Kelly

 Michael

  

 Feb-1862

  

  

 

Kelly

 Marcella

  

 25-Jul-1863

 68

  

 

Kelly

 Patrick

  

 12-Mar-1866

 73

  

 

Kelly

 Thomas

 Corlis

 3-Feb-1960

 85

  

 

Kelly

 Mary

  

 13-Apr-1970

 75

  

 

Kelly

 Mark

  

 9-Jul-1978

 3 Months

  

 

Kelly

 Michael

  

 1-Aug-1988

  

  

 

Lavin

 Thomas

 Lisalway

 23-Nov-1939

  

  

 

Lavin

 Sara

  

 24-Sep-1940

  

  

 

Lavin

 Patrick

  

 18-Mar-1950

  

  

 

Oates

 Thomas

  

 11-Apr-1925

  

  

 

Oates

 Catherine

  

 21-May-1951

  

  

 

Rabbitte

 Mary

  

 Nee Cryan

 

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Subject:        Tremendous!

Date:  Fri, 11 May 2001 17:53:27 -0700

Dear Caoimhghin,  Wonderful work on Ellis Island records.  I hope to explore them in great detail to see if they yield any results for me.  Thank you,  Tom Crane (USA)

 

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Subject:        Fw: Cryan family update

Date:  Sat, 12 May 2001 15:17:25 -0400

To:      cryan-l@rootsweb.com

Maureen:

 

Thanks for the update on "your" Mary Ann Cryan.

Sorry your Cryans and mine don't match up.

However, if you come across my Mary Ann Cryan,

please let me know. I still don't have any family

history on her.

Take care and stay in touch,

Jake

 

 

 

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Subject:        Fw: 1933 Roscommon Herald, Michael Cryan

Date:  Sat, 12 May 2001 15:31:58 -0400

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Maureen:

If it's not too much of a problem, would you

kindly send me those Boyle Families.

Thanking you in advance for your efforts in this research.

Jake Sheerin

 

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Subject:        The Crehans

Date:  Sat, 12 May 2001 19:17:59 -0700

Dear Caoimhghin,  You did right by me.  My family name was spelled Crehan with the alternative, Crean, when they were in Ireland.  It was not until they came to America that they used the spelling Crane.   Someday I will provide you with some background information in case you are interested.  In the meantime, if I understood correctly, you are situated in Dublin.  If that be the case and you should visit the National Library then you might be interested to know that I have a book on file there.  It is titled, "Green Is The Valley, Blue Are The Hills," and it tells the story of my search for my Irish and Pennsylvania Dutch (German) roots.  As yet, it is not published but it is copywritten and is also placed on file in the National Archives here in the States.  I wrote the book in 1986 and it is under my name, Thomas J. Crane.  If you get a chance, you may want to browse through it.  Best wishes,  Tom Crane

 

Date:  Mon, 14 May 2001 14:18:47 -0700 (PDT)

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Subject:        Re: ellisisland.org/crehan

To:      cryan-l@rootsweb.com

An excellent list ... thank you! (I don't often get to

make one family connection, much less three).

 

My Father's Father's Brother:

41. John Crehan    Ballinasloe, Ireland    1911  26  

 

My Father's Father's Sister (who later returned):

54. Katie Crehan    Ballinasloe, Ireland    1911  19

 

My Father's Mother's Brother's Wife's Sister ("Bina")

108. Sabina Crehan    Ballinasloe, Co. Galway, Ireland

   1924  21

 

I will have to investigate:

73. Mary Crehan    Ballinasloe, Ireland    1913  32

(earlier generation, perhaps?)

If anyone has connections to these folks, be sure to

contact me.

Regards, - Colin Crehan

 

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Subject:        The Book

Date:  Mon, 14 May 2001 17:38:59 -0700

Hello Caoimhghin,  I am happy that you are interested my book.  Once again, the title of the book is, "Green Is The Valley, Blue Are The Hills."  I chose the title from the green of Ireland and the Blue Mountains of Pennsylvania.  My father's family were Irish and my mother's family were Pennsylvania Dutch (German) from Pennsylvania.  The book is the "story" of my search for my ancestors.  Therefore, it is rather short on detailed family charts.  It speaks of the experiences I had while researching my roots.  That even includes a trip that I made to Ireland in 1983 courtesy of the Irish American Heritage Club of Washington, D.C.  The trip came as a result of an essay that I had written and submitted in a contest and I was declared one of the winners.  I was not part of a tour group, but rather had access to a rental car and chits for Bed and Breakfast wherever I traveled and I was free to establish my own itinerary.  Hence, I was able to spend about 5 days in your fair City of Dublin.  Now, back to the book.  It includes 17 poems that I wrote myself and which are used to lead off or introduce each chapter.  Each chapter tells of the experiences that I had in making a particular discovery which, at times, were rather uncanny.  In any case, I am unable to post it on the e-mail as I do not have the necessary scanning equipment nor do I possess the expertise.  Quite frankly, I have had my computer for little over a year and I was able to get it "on the cheap," or I would not have one.  That, plus the fact that I have pretty much had to learn to operate it on my own.  Age and income are a limiting factor.  I will soon be 68 years old and I am on pension which somewhat limits my options.  The book is on file in the National Library of Ireland under my name, Thomas J. Crane, with a copyright date of 1986.  I am sure that if you ask, they will look it up for you.  I might also mention that I am quoted in a commercially available book titled, "More Psychic Roots," by Henry Z. Jones, Jr.   The title of his book should pretty much give you some idea of what my own book is about.  In other words, as Mr. Jones states it, the interplay of "Serendipity and Intuition in Genealogy."   I look forward to hearing from you again soon.  God Bless,  Tom Crane (USA)

 

 

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To:       caoimhghin@yahoo.com
Subject:          Crehan
Date:   Wed, 16 May 2001 19:32:45 -0700
Hello Caoimhghin,  After thinking about it, I thought that I ought to let you know that I was one of the early correspondents with Leslie Poche'.  I don't know if you are interested, but my letters are posted under the 1998 listing and the filenames are 49 and 50.  I just thought that I would let you know in case you come across any Crehan information.  Best regards,  Tom Crane (USA)

 

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Reply-to:        "MacDonald, Paul (OGO)" <Paul.MacDonald@compaq.com>

To:       caoimhghin@yahoo.com

Subject:

Date:   Thu, 17 May 2001 14:58:34 -0500

Hi,

 

  I stumbled upon a web page you have with some transcipts of folks

talking about "Crehan" family history. On person who seems to post a

lot

of info relevant to me is someone that goes by "Theresa Mary."

 

  Do you have an email address for her? My grandfather was Augustine F.

Crehan, a Boston police officer. I have a load of news clippings about

him and his brother John Crehan (a NYC cop who was Mayor Laguardia's

body guard for a time). Thanks.

 

Paul MacDonald

 

 

 

 

 

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Subject:        Crehan - Lowell

Date:  Thu, 17 May 2001 20:36:58 -0400

To:      cryan-l@rootsweb.com

Hi All,

 

  I just discovered this mailing list and saw earlier messages from a

Theresa Mary who's grandfather (or great-grandfather) John Crehan was

the

brother of my grandfather Augustine Crehan,. Both were cops (John in

NYC and

Augustine in Boston. Augustine (Gus) had three daughters, Dorothy,

Mary, and

Catherine. I have a load of newspaper clippings online on John and Gus.

BTW,

John was Mayor Laguardia's bodyguard for a time and I have a b&w photo

of

the two shaking hands. And yes, these are the Lowell Crehans.

 

  If anyone has a way of getting in touch with Theresa Mary, please

have her

contact me. Thanks.

 

Paul MacDonald

 

 

 

 

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Subject:        Calling Patrick Hunt re 1901 census

Date:  Mon, 21 May 2001 17:48:24 +0100

To:      cryan-l@rootsweb.com

I am in process of transcribing the 1901 census for the lLeitrim and

Roscommon list and have progressed into Co Sligo.

I see from Patricks email of 10/9/2000 given below

------------------------------------------

...... In the last 20 years of the 19th Century a village schoolmaster

called

Thomas Cryan flourished in a townland called Townabrack, located

between

Monasteraden and Gurteen in South Co Sligo, close to the shore of Lough

Gara. So successful was Master Cryan at securing scholarships for his

pupils

that his little school became known as OThe College in the Bog∂. Even

children from distant parts took lodgings with local families so that

they

could drink at this extraordinary fountain of knowledge.

 

   Thomas Cryan was born in the early 185Os and died in September 1904.

His

place of birth was probably Fauleens, a townland often incorporated

into

Shroove in various records.  He married Mary Casey who came from a

townland

in Monasteraden.

 

   They had four children that I know of: Amelia, William, Thomas and

Robert

(Bertie). I have heard that Bertie died young of TB. I traced William

and

Thomas to Clongowes Wood College in Co Kildare, where they were

outstanding

students in the 1890s. Thereafter the trail runs cold............(in

part)

 

----------------------------

In the 1901 census in the townland of Sroove, Kilcolman parish

,Coolavin

barony

number 71 has

 

Thomas Cryan (48) National School teacher Mary(45) wife National School

Teacher

Thomas (16) and Robert(12) and Catherine Casy National School

Teacher.....looks to be a family affair

 

LDS film number 0851584

 

I hope that this is helpful

Eve

 

 

 

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Date:  Tue, 22 May 2001 22:47:55 EDT

Subject:        An Evening of Genealogy at the Lowell (MA) Library

To:      cryan-l@rootsweb.com

Family History Buffs

      Use this time to get some intensive work done while the library

is

closed!

 

            There will be    "An Evening of Genealogy"    at the

      Pollard Memorial Library, 33 Middle St.,  Lowell, Mass. 

            Friday, June 1, 2001   5:30 -- 10:00  pm

 

      Along with being able to do your research when the library is

closed,

there

will be speakers   Walter V. Hickey, from the National Archives,

Waltham

and

Robert Johnson-Lally, Archivist, Archives of the Archdiocese of Boston.

 

    Also, be part of a Beginners' Roundtable   

   

      A light dinner will be served and refreshments will be available

throughout

the evening.

      Space is limited : Registration is recommended.  For registration

and

information, call the library at  978-970-4121

 

 

Karen Murphy

 

 

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Subject:          Family research

Date:   Wed, 23 May 2001 18:47:03 +0100

Kevin,

I hope you can open these files. If you have come across anyone

researching in the Derrygolagh area please let me know.

Regards,Paul

 

            1901 CENSUS SLIGO

 

            Name                         Relationship Religion                     Age     Occupation   Marital Status            Speak

                                                to householder

            Patrick Cryan                                    Father R.C.    Read Only     75        Farmer           Widower            Eng + Irish

            John Cryan                           Son     R.C.    R. & W.          35        Farmer Son   Married           Eng + Irish

            James Cryan                        Son     R.C.    R. & W.          30        Farmer Son   Not Married   Eng + Irish

            Ellener Cryan                                   Daughter       R.C.    R. & W.          25        Farmer Daughter            Married          

English

only

 

 

                                                                        No. of

            Cow Hse        Calf Hse         Piggery          Fowl Hse       Shed  Outhouses    Rooms            Windows Front

 

            1          1          1          1          1          5          2          2

 

 

 

            COUNTY                                           SLIGO

            CONSTABULARY DISTRICT                                            BALLYMOTE

            SUB DISTRICT                                             KEASH

            DISTRICT ELECTORAL DIVISION                                              TEMPLEVANNY

------------------------------------------------------------------------

            1911 CENSUS

 

            Name                         Relationship Religion                                 Age     Occupation   Marital Status Years

                                                to householder                                                                                 Married

            JOHN CRYAN                                  HEAD R.C.    R. & W.                      53        FARMER            MARRIED     10

            ELLEN CRYAN                                WIFE  R.C.    R. & W.                      38        FARMER            MARRIED

            PARK JOHN CRYAN                                  SON   R.C.    R. & W.                      10        SCHOLAR            SINGLE

            BEE AGNES CRYAN                                 DAUGHTER R.C.    R. & W.                      9            SCHOLAR    SINGLE

            ELLEN CRYAN                                DAUGHTER R.C.    R. & W.                      8          SCHOLAR            SINGLE

            MICHAEL JAMES CRYAN                        SON   R.C.    CANNOT READ                   7          -            SINGLE

            THOMAS CRYAN                           SON   R.C.    CANNOT READ                   3          -            SINGLE

            MARY CRYAN                                 DAUGHTER R.C.    CANNOT READ                   3 mths            -           SINGLE

            PATRICK CRYAN                           FATHER        R.C.    CANNOT READ                   78        -            WIDOWER

            PATRICK CRYAN                           BROTHER    R.C.    CANNOT R. & W.                39                    SINGLE

 

 

            COUNTY                                           SLIGO

            POOR LAW UNION                                    BOYLE

            DISTRICT ELECTORAL DIVISION                                              TEMPLEVANNY

            BARONY                                           CORRAN

            PARISH                                             TOOMOUR

            TOWNLAND                                     DERRYGOLAGH

            PARLIAMENTARY DIVISION                                            SOUTH SLIGO

------------------------------------------------------------------------

 

No. &                           Names                                                                                                         Rateable Annual Valuation                                                                 Total

Annual

Letters                                                            Description of Tenements                                      Area                                                                                        Valuation of

of Ref. Townlands + Occupiers                  Immediate Lessors                                                                                          Land                                 

Buildings                               Rateable Prop.

to Map

            DERRYGOLAGH

            Ord.S.45 + 40                                                                                   A.        R.        P.        £          s            d          £          s          d          £          s          d

 

  1         a       Patrick Dignan                     Viscount Lorton                    "Land, hse &

offices"                                   40        0          19        4          15        0          0          10        0          5          5            0

  2 }                                                                                         }           7          2          0          0          10        0            }

  3 } 4   a        Matthew Cryan                             ~             ~          ~          }           25        2          5          7            0          0          }0         15        0          6          0          0

  4 }      b        Timothy Duffy                               ~             Land &

hse                 }           19        1          5          3          0          0          }0         15        0          6          0          0

      3    a        Thomas Cryan                              ~             Garden                                   0          1          10            0          5          0                      -                       0          5          0

  5        a        John Scanlan                               ~             "Land, hse &

offices"                                   16        1          10        1          10        0          0          5          0          1          15            0

  6        a        James Dolan                    ~             Land &

hse                             15        0          28        1          10        0          0          5          0          1          15        0

  7        a}                                       ~                                     {           54        0          26        8          0          0            0          15        0          }

  8          }       Patrick Horan                                ~             "Land, hse &

offices"                       {           1          0          30        0          5          0                      -                       }10      5            0

  9          }                                       ~                                     {           2          3          30        1          5          0                        -                       }

10          }                                       ~               {       Land                           6          3          20        1          0            0                      -                       }

11        a}       **James Cryan (Strong)**                       ~               {       "Land,

hse

& offices"                               4          2          37        1          5          0          0          10        0          }2         15            0

12}                                                                              {           19        2          20        5          5          0          }

    }12   a        Michael Madden                          ~             "Land, hse &

offices"                       {                                                                                   }0         10        0          3          10            0

    } -    b         Thomas Cryan                              ~                     ~             {                                                                                   }0         10        0          3          10        0

13}                                                                              {           8          2          18        0          15        0          }

14         a       John Henry                       ~             "Land, hse &

offices"                                   15        1          35        5          5          0          0          15        0          6          0            0

             b       James Henry            John Henry               House                                    -                                   -                       0          5          0          0          5          0

 

No. &                           Names                                                                                                         Rateable Annual Valuation                                                                 Total

Annual

Letters                                                            Description of Tenements                                      Area                                                                                        Valuation of

of Ref. Townlands + Occupiers                  Immediate Lessors                                                                                          Land                                 

Buildings                               Rateable Prop.

to Map

            DERRYGOLAGH

            Ord.S.45 + 40                                                                                   A.        R.        P.        £          s            d          £          s          d          £          s          d

 

           {a        Thomas Mulvany                 Viscount Lorton                    Land &

hse                             }                       {           2          10        0          0          5          0          2          15        0

           {b        Patrick Cryan (Gildea)                             ~             "Land, hse &

offices"                                   }                       {           2          10        0          0          10        0          3          0            0

           {c         John Mulvany                               ~             Land & hse                            }                       {            2          10        0          0          5          0          2         

15        0

15       {d        James Cryan (Jack)                     ~             Land &

hse                             }78      1          38{      2          5          0          0          7          0          2          12        0

           {e        Thomas McGowan                      ~             "Land, hse &

offices"                                   }                       {           1          7          0          0          8          0          1          15            0

           {f         Thomas Jordan                            ~             Land &

hse                             }                       {           2          10        0          0          7          0          2          17        0

           {g        Luke McGowan                            ~             Land & hse                            }                       {            1          8          0          0          8          0          1         

16        0

16         a       Patrick Lydon                                ~             Land &

hse                             26        0          18        2          15        0          0          10        0          3          5          0

17        a}                                       ~               {       Land & hse                            16        2          4          2            10        0          0         

10        0          }

18          }       Patrick Cryan (Ruadh)                            ~              

{           Land                           15        2          4          2          0          0                      -                       }5         0            0

19          }                                       ~               {       Land                           3          2          22        1          5            0                      -                       }

20        a }      Jno McDonagh (Tailor)                           ~               {       "Land,

hse &

offices"                                   96        0          35        4          10        0          0          15        0          }6         10            0

-           Unoccupied                      ~             House                                    -                                   -                       0          5          0          0          5          0

-           c         James Killoran                     John McDonagh                  House                                    -                                    -                       0          5          0          0          5         

0

21         a}                              Viscount Lorton     {             "Land, hse &

offices"                                   4          0          15        2          15        0          0          10        0          }

22           }      Patrick Canden                            ~              

{           Land                           11        2          8          0          15        0                      -                       }4         0            0

23         a       John McDonagh                          ~             Land &

hse                             24        2          10        1          10        0          0          5          0          1          15        0

24         a       Martin Cryan                     ~             Land & hse                            7          2          3          1            0          0          0          10        0          1         

10        0

25       {a        Bryan Breheny                             ~             "Land, hse & offices"                       }                                                                         

{           0          8          0          3          17        0

           {b        Bridget Breheny                           ~             "Land, hse &

offices"                       }           72        1          27        4          12        0{        0          10        0          1          13            0

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

No. &                           Names                                                                                                         Rateable Annual Valuation                                                                 Total

Annual

Letters                                                            Description of Tenements                                      Area                                                                                        Valuation of

of Ref. Townlands + Occupiers                  Immediate Lessors                                                                                          Land                                 

Buildings                               Rateable Prop.

to Map

            DERRYGOLAGH

            Ord.S.45 + 40                                                                                   A.        R.        P.        £          s            d          £          s          d          £          s          d

 

26         a       Patrick Taheny                     Viscount

Lorton             Land                           17        1          20        1          10        0                      -                       1            10        0

27         a       Patrick Henry                                ~             "Land, hse &

offices"                                   15        1          34        2          5          0          0          5          0          2          10            0

28         a       John Sweeny                               ~             "Land, hse &

offices"                                   25        1          0          2          0          0          0          5          0          2          5            0

29         a       Michael Conlan                            ~             Land &

hse                             23        0          37        1          15        0          0          5          0          2          0          0

30         a       Michael Breheny                          ~             Land &

hse                             12        3          32        1          0          0          0          5          0          1          5          0

           {a        Phillip Forry                       ~             Land &

hse                 }                                   {           2          0          0          0          10        0          2          10        0

           {b        John Forry                         ~             Land & hse                }                                   {           2            0          0          0          10        0          2         

10        0

31       {c         Thomas Keville                            ~             "Land, hse &

offices"                       }           91        0          18{      4          0          0          0          15        0          4          15            0

           {d        Catherine Keville                         ~             Land &

hse                 }                                   {           1          10        0          0          5          0          1          15        0

           {e        Patrick Forry                      ~             Land &

hse                 }                                   {           1          10        0          0          5          0          1          15        0

           {a        Patrick Higgins                             ~             "Land, hse &

offices"                       }                                   {           3          17        0          0          10        0          3          17            0

32       {b        Peter Higgins Jun                        ~             Land &

hse                 }           99        2          27{      0          13        0          0          5          0          0          18        0

           {c         John Clarke                      ~             "Land, hse &

offices"                       }                                   {           2          0          0          0          10        0          2          10            0

           {d        Peter Higgins Sen                       ~             "Land, hse &

offices"                       }                                   {           2          0          0          0          10        0          2          10            0

 

 

 

 

                                                                                                940     2          5          107     12        0          17            13        0          125     5          0

 

 

 

From: scovey@iwaynet.net | Block Address | Add to Address Book

To:      caoimhghin@yahoo.com

Subject:        Your site

Date:  Thu, 24 May 2001 11:19:37 -0400

Hello:

Enjoyed reading your site and will be following your links into some additional reading.  Have just started my family research.  I have an arts/anthropology background. I am becoming "intrigued" with the effects of the need to maintain a culture you speak about on your site and what I'm observing as the loss of that culture on my family.  We have become homogenized to the point of bland.  Even though on one side I was raised with stories of "Uncle Michael working on the boat to get the family over in the potato famine" there was no "culture" associated with being Irish or Scot and my research has shown most of the tribe was here in the United States prior to 1800!  My family names were Crile (I've been told "Anglicized" from something else in Irish), Call (that was changed from Caul at some point) and McCullough )I haven't be able to confirm spellings because 2 generations back were still spelling it different themselves from birth - marriage and wedding certificates.)

 

I've started a dialogue with my cousins about why our great grandmother may have called Mammy instead of Grandmama.  Or why we all seem to love the sea and have ponds in our yards.  As the world gets smaller through internet sites like yours can open dialogues.  Thank you for your efforts.

 

 

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Subject:        Extracts from Directories of Ireland 1846 and 1824

Date:  Wed, 30 May 2001 11:01:46 +0100

To:      cryan-l@rootsweb.com

I have extracted ALL the Cryan/Crean variants for the province of

Connaught

ie the counties of Sligo, Roscommon and Mayo.

I thought that you may be interested

------------------------------------------

Slater's Directory of Ireland 1846

 

Ballina      Patrick Crean   - Corn Merchant - Bridge St

                Anthony Crean - Grocer            - Bridge St

                Anthony Crean - Ironmonger & Hardwareman - Bridge St

                Anthony Crean - Leather Seller  - Bridge St

                Patrick Crean   - Public House   - Bridge St

                Thomas Crean  - Shopkeeper & Dealer in Sundries -

Bridge St

Boyle        MaryAnne Cryan -  Linen&Woollen Drapers - Church St

                Peter Cryan        - Physician      - Main St

Claremorris  Abby Crean Esq -  gentry - Ballevilla

                   Francis Crean Esq JP - gentry - Prospect

Roscommon Mr Thomas Croughan - gentry - Main St

Sligo           Patrick Crean - Academies & Schools(writing) - 12 John

St

Strokestown Hubert Croughan - Public House - Elphin St

 

-------------------------------------------

 

Pigot's Directory of Ireland 1824

 

Ballina       Patrick Crean  - Ironmonger - Bridge St

Ballymote  Patrick Crean - Grocer& Linen draper

Boyle        Peter Cryan MD -  Surgeon- Main St

                Robert Cryan - Publican - Green

Westport  Lieut Crean - gentry - S Mayo militia

 

-----------------------------------------------

 

I hope you find this interesting not only for what it contains but also

foir

how little.

Eve

 

 

From: Karen McElrath <k.mcelrath@qub.ac.uk> | Block Address | Add to Address Book

Reply-to:       k.mcelrath@qub.ac.uk

Subject:        re: massachusetts 1910

Date:  Fri, 1 Jun 2001 15:17:24 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time)

To:      CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

hello:  a long shot i know but if anyone has good access to the

1910 massachusetts census, can you please look up CRYAN for the

towns of 1) Somerset, 2) Wareham, and 3) Swampscott/Lynn?  i

would greatly appreciate this information and will gladly

reimburse for time.  many, many thanks, karen (belfast, ireland)

 

 

 

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From: "A. Riley" <ariley@smtp.ltp.org> | Block Address | Add to Address Book

Subject:        CRYAN-L, SLIGO-L: Maps from Ordnance Survey Ireland

Date:  Fri, 1 Jun 2001 12:02:57 -0500

To:      CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Fellow researchers,

 

I recently ordered some maps from the Irish government's mapping

agency, and

they are wonderful. The Discovery Series map shows townland names,

roads,

rivers and streams, contour lines, and such things as ring forts and

megaliths, as well as the usual features of tourist maps. The agency

also

ran out for me an A4 sheet of the Victorian-era 6 inches-1 mile scale

OS map

of my ancestors' neighborhood -- fascinating! That shows roads,

streams,

footpaths, ring forts and such (with names! Giant's Grave -- cool!),

and

what looks like boundaries of farms. Alas, many features are unlabeled,

at

least on the little segment of map that I got, but they're mostly easy

to

figure out. I also got a big map of the whole island for reference.

 

(I don't have them with me, so I can't do lookups this week.)

 

All three maps added up to $45 American, including air-mail postage,

charged

to my credit card. I ordered by writing to the Map Sales Office,

Ordnance

Survey Ireland, Phoenix Park, Dublin 8, Ireland.

 

I had e-mailed the agency in advance to ask what maps would be useful,

and

one of their people responded with very helpful information, and

quickly,

too. And when I finally wrote away to order, the maps arrived without

delay.

 

See www.irlgov.ie/osi for more info.

 

A. Riley

ariley@ltp.org

Another proud descendant of Atty Crain

 

 

Date:  Fri, 1 Jun 2001 11:57:57 -0700 (PDT)

From: Colin Crehan <colin_crehan@yahoo.com> | Block Address | Add to Address Book

Subject:        Re: Extracts from Directories of Ireland 1846 and 1824

To:      CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

 

Very interesting ... thanks, Eve!

 

A few observations and questions:

 

* There do not appear to be any farmers listed.  I

imagine farmers and miners did not get listed in these

directories.  In fact, every profession sounds like a

town-dwelling job.

 

* I know that my Grandfather said that our family

migrated from Donegal, and from further east before

that (Tyrone?).  I wonder if some of this migration

was still taking place in the mid-1800's (inside of

Ireland ... and not just to the USA).

 

* I'd be interested to see the "Crehan" listings,

since that is the time period that my tree comes to a

halt.

 

* I'm showing my ignorance ... but when did modern

(more-anglicized) Irish names come into being?  Did it

stem from Cromwell's efforts? ... or when Ireland

joined the United Kingdom? ... or at some other time?

* Does anyone know the chronology of the name shift?

  (i.e., does "Cryan" come directly from

"O'Croidheain", or is it an offshoot of "O'Crean" or

somesuch?

 

* How did you get ahold of these directories, and are

there similar directories for other counties? other

times?

 

Again ... very interesting.  As always, any

information is appreciated.

 

Regards,

 - Colin Crehan

 

--- FamSpack < > wrote:

> I have extracted ALL the Cryan/Crean variants for

> the province of Connaught

> ie the counties of Sligo, Roscommon and Mayo.

> I thought that you may be interested

> ------------------------------------------

> Slater's Directory of Ireland 1846

>

> Ballina     

>   Patrick Crean   - Corn Merchant - Bridge St

>   Anthony Crean - Grocer - Bridge St

>   Anthony Crean - Ironmonger & Hardwareman - Bridge

St

>   Anthony Crean - Leather Seller - Bridge St

>   Patrick Crean   - Public House - Bridge St

>   Thomas Crean  - Shopkeeper & Dealer in Sundries -

Bridge St

> Boyle       

>    MaryAnne Cryan - Linen&Woollen Drapers - Church

St

>    Peter Cryan - Physician - Main St

> Claremorris 

>    Abby Crean Esq -  gentry - Ballevilla

>    Francis Crean Esq JP - gentry - Prospect

> Roscommon

>    Mr Thomas Croughan - gentry - Main St

> Sligo          

>    Patrick Crean - Academies & Schools(writing) - 12

John St

> Strokestown

>    Hubert Croughan - Public House - ElphinSt

>

> -------------------------------------------

>

> Pigot's Directory of Ireland 1824

>

> Ballina      

>    Patrick Crean  - Ironmonger - Bridge St

> Ballymote 

>    Patrick Crean - Grocer& Linen draper

> Boyle       

>    Peter Cryan MD -  Surgeon- Main St

>    Robert Cryan - Publican - Green

> Westport 

>    Lieut Crean - gentry - S Mayo militia

>

> -----------------------------------------------

>

> I hope you find this interesting not only for what

> it contains but also foir

> how little.

> Eve

>

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Subject:        Re 1824 and 1846 Directories and other things

Date:  Sat, 2 Jun 2001 01:45:14 +0100

To:      CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

To answer some of Colin's queries and probably what other people are

thinking.

 

These Directories are are trade directories but with a great deal more

such

as times of coaches , time of post , times of church services...all

denominations, professional people, schools, etc. In some cases

particularly

large cities they list all those who work in the Customs and Excise

Office

and other such organisations. BUT the list is by province and by town.

Those

in the country are not mentioned.

 

These particular directories are published by the Society of

Genealogists in

London on microfiche, so you need access to a microfiche reader.

Information

on this can be got from those glossy family history magazines.

 

Slaters Directories, Pigots Directories, Kellys Directories (and there

are

others) were produced every couple of years like the Yellow Pages of

the

telephone directory,or the local town guide. for distribution locally.

Our

Local History Library has one or other for each year since about 1800

(I may

be wrong there) particular to our local town. The later ones for

Kelly's

have the name of the resident of each house - very useful...

Sadly these directories are not commonly available outside the local

area.

However you may be lucky. Some good geneological libraries may have a

selection. Otherwise it would seem to be an excuse to visit .

 

The Directories of Ireland that I gave the extracts from, do not have

this

kind of local detail but could well be a compilation of shortened

versions.

They have not all been filmed.

 

 

 

Migration/ movement around Ireland

I am sure that there has always been movement by families to look for

work,

education, wanderlust, excitement, dispossession etc In the 16 and

1700s

young men were sent to Belgium, France and elsewhere to be educated and

to

be trained as priests (see Liam Swords - Diocese of Achonry)

I have letters from family - not Cryans - who were born in Co Laois

about

1800 and so were working from 1815 or so onwards and they are

frequently

going back and forth to London and Dublin and even occasionally to the

USA

and Canada and back and they were not rich.

The Directories give some idea that even in 1824 there were regular and

often daily coaches between places often run as mail coaches. In the

1850s

the railway was built, so people moved further afield - even Gurteen

had a

station. Branch lines flourished and you can see the line of many now

defunct on the Irish OS Discovery maps.

 

Names - Having looked at many households on the original 1901 census

there

are a surprising number who still speak Irish at that time. However it

does

tend to be ,but not always, those aged over 40, Many say that they

cannot

write ,even if they can read but they do not specify Irish or English.

 

This then poses a problem in that someone else has to write documents

from

what is dictated and spells names as he hear them.Even for births and

marriages the clerk or priest just writes what he hears. So to a large

extent the spelling of a name depends on two things, the speaker's

accent ,

and the ears that hear the name spoken. Cryan is a ticky one and even

now we

still get many variations, but said with the many variations of the

Irish

accent/brogue.

 

As to which came first, I am inclined to believe that the sound of the

name

is common to all the variations of spelling.

Crean appears on the Sligo tomb in about 1560 or so - pre Cromwell, but

who

knows that may be just the simplified spelling - just as some folk that

I

knew who came from Poland named Szczap became Shap

However the earliest entries in the Boyle Parish register(incidentally

written in Latin) in the 1790s have Crine and Cryan even in the same

family

while the earliest Taunagh (Riverstown) registers have Cryan and Krine

and

others.

 

I think that there is a great deal to discuss and wonder whether

"Caoimhghin" our "Irish man" can give some further ideas.

 

Until again Eve

 

 

Date:   Sun, 03 Jun 2001 19:04:48 -0400

From:  Anne Duffy <rid22576@ride.ri.net> | Block Address | Add to Address Book

Reply-to:        rid22576@ride.ri.net

Subject:          Cryan/Lavin

To:       CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Greetings to all, I'm new to the list and am trying to locate my Cryan

ancestors. My gggrandmother was Bridget Cryan(Crane in US). Bridget

Cryan m. John Lavin 1840-1850 in Ireland. Three children I know of

emigrated to E. Prov. RI and married there 1876-1880. Thomas m.

Margaret

Kielty, John m. Mary Duffy,

and Bridget/Delia m. Michael Foley. Mary Duffy was the daughter of

Patrick Duffy and Bridget McDonagh. Mathew Cryan son of Martin and

Norah

was possibly a cousin who came over with them. From what I can tell the

men came over first, worked and sent for the women and got married.

With

the help of Griffiths I found all the names in the Toomour area of

Sligo- Brougher, Carrowcrory, Derrygolagh and Dernaskeagh. I feel they

all come from this area, but I have no proof. I am currently searching

the Catholic church records for Drumrat with no success. I've read the

Cryan list archieves and realize others are interested in this area.

I'm

confused as to what parish would have the records. Any help or

suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

TIA

Anne

 

 

--

******

Anne Duffy

mailto:rid22576@ride.ri.net

 

 

 

Date:  Sun, 3 Jun 2001 23:03:08 PDT

From: Karen McElrath <K.McElrath@Queens-Belfast.AC.UK> | Block Address | Add to Address Book

Reply-to:       K.McElrath@Queens-Belfast.AC.UK

Subject:        Re: Cryan/Lavin

To:      CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

 

Anne:  My great grandfather was Martin Cryan.  He was born in 1852, and

strong

evidence suggests that he was born in Brogher/Brougher townland.   He

emigrated

to the US as a young child with two older siblings.  Martin eventually

settled in PA -

north of Pittsburgh.  His sister, Bridget Cryan, remained in

Massachusetts and

lived in the towns of Wareham and Somerset.  She was born in Drumrat

circa 1846.

 She married Patrick Feeney in Massachusetts (born in County

Roscommon). 

Bridget Cryan and Patrick Feeney had several children, one of whom was

named

Thomas.

 

The third sibling who emigrated to the US was Patrick Cryan, born circa

1844-1847.

 Like Bridget, Patrick remained largely in the towns of Wareham and

Somerset,

Massachusetts.  Patrick married Catherine LAVIN in Manchester, New

Hampshire in

1864.  I have the marriage certificate - which states that Catherine

LAVIN was born

in Ireland (no county given) and her parents were James and Alice

LAVIN. 

Catherine LAVIN was born in 1839.  Patrick Cryan's name appeared in the

census

and elsewhere from time to time as CRANE.  My great grandfather Martin

Cryan,

was known later as CRAIN. 

 

The parents of the three siblings were Patrick and Catherine Conlon

Cryan.  We

have never found any evidence at all that they made it to the United

States.  

 

Can you tell me how far East Providence, RI is from Somerset or

Wareham, MA?

 

Eve knows much more about parish records than I do, and my guess is

that she

will address your questions about these data.  Karen 

 

 

 

 

From: Rosalie Cryan <RoCryan@mediaone.net> | Block Address | Add to Address Book

To:      <RoCryan@mediaone.net>, <hcryan@doglover.com>, <PLewicke@Juno.com>, <dcryan@email.rci.rutgers.edu>, <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>,  <ccryan2@yahoo.com>, <Dustmobile@mediaone.net>, <cryhicks@netway.com>, <joneverett@juno.com>, <maryedserwinski@aol.com>, <USER223779@AOL.COM>, <jlewicke@worldnet.att.net>, <cryanassoc@fiam.net>, <paulcryan@eircom.net>, <mcryan01@snet.net>, <KateCryan@mediaone.net>

Date:  Mon, 04 Jun 2001 13:38:28 "GMT"

Subject:        CCC 2001 August 11

Hi folks, Pat has e-d the  plans for reunion 24 and I just cut and

pasted

them up for all to see.   Feedback at the site is welcome. <S>  Rosalie

 

From: Fatarm@aol.com | Block Address | Add to Address Book

Date:  Mon, 4 Jun 2001 22:04:33 EDT

Subject:        Cryan/Crehan Forwarded message

To:      CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Subj:    {not a subscriber} another crehan

Date:   6/2/01 10:50:14 AM Eastern Daylight Time

From:   ncrehan@eircom.net (niall crehan)

To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

 

Hi Guys,

 

Niall Crehan here from Kilcock. County Kildare Ireland.

Son of Pat Crehan who was a pilot with The Irish Aer Corps who hailed

from a

place called Bonavella in Milltown Malbay

County Clare.Also winner of a bronze medal in the 1948 olympics in

London.

He was also a brother of the more famous musician Junior (Martin)

Crehan who

played fiddle.

There were ten kids in the pats family and he himself had ten of which

I am

the last.

>From his side of the family the ten are in a ripe old age of eighty

plus.

There are 3 remaining. One in Lahinch Co. Clare, The other two are in

Long

Beach California and Chicago.

Martin senior or my Grandfather was known as the master and was also

from

around Milltown Malbay.

He married Margeret Scanlon who came from the kilrush Road not too far

away from Quilty in Co. Clare.

She died in 1968.

Hope this helps with building the family tree!Let me know what else is on it.

Best RegardsNiallniall@crehans.comCrehan Musical Instruments

 

 

Date:  Sat, 9 Jun 2001 20:15:26 +0100 (BST)

From: Caoimhghin O Croidheain <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> | Block Address | Add to Address Book

Subject:        Roscommon Herald 1890

To:      CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Roscommon Herald 1890

 

Jan 11

COS J Cryan

Builder

 

Boyle BINL

James Cryan

John Cryan

Donations

 

Feb 8

BINL

Full page of names

 

Drumlion BINL

John Cryan

Patrick Cryan

Luke Cryan

 

Apr 19

COS union

John Cryan

Builder

 

May 10 1890

Keash Gaels J. Cryan

 

May 17 1890 p2

Land commissioners in Boyle

Chairman Mr M. T. Crean

 

May 24 1890

Carrick on Shannon Union

John Cryan £20 granted for labourers cottages

 

June 14 1890

NLB Boyle

Pat Cryan

 

July 5 1890 p2

Death of Master Luke Cryan

Carrowreagh age 23 Father John Cryan Esq PLG

 

July 12 1890 p5

Croghan INL

Tenants Defence Ass.

Contributors Pat Cryan Knockroe

(reads like census of area)

 

Aug 23 1890 p4

Presentment Sessions

John Cryan Carrareagh Barony of Boyle

Cesspayors

 

Sep 27 1890

Drumlion Branch Tully Testimonial Fund

Donors

John Cryan 5s

Peter Cryan 2s

 

Oct 25 1890 p4

Bazaar in Carrick on Shannon

Wed Night Concert "Freaks and Follies"

R. J. Cryan plays one of the characters

 

Nov 29 1890 p1 6th col

"The old Balinultha feud was revived at the Boyle

Petty Sessions on Wed. The Rorkes and the Cryans

fighting with varying luck in cases and cross-cases."

P2

Boyle Petty Sessions court case

(Verbatim report about bullock going into cabbage

patch and ensuing fight)

Star players Honoria Cryan, James Cryan and John Cryan

 

(with supporting cast from Rorke family).

***** (A Classic)

P5 Politics in Carrick

R. J. Cryan complaining about shopkeepers refusing to

join National Movement

 

Dec 13 1890 p3

Politics in Carrick

R. J. Cryan involved in forming new Branch of National

League

 

Dec 20 1890 p2

Keash Emmets v. Ballinafad Gaels (Co Sligo)

Mr Michael Cryan placed field at their disposal. (a

Cryan also one to the players)

 

 

 

Date:  Sat, 9 Jun 2001 15:43:42 PDT

From: Karen McElrath <K.McElrath@Queens-Belfast.AC.UK> | Block Address | Add to Address Book

Reply-to:       K.McElrath@Queens-Belfast.AC.UK

Subject:        new book

To:      CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

listers:  a new book (second edition) on county roscommon.  karen

 

God Save All Here: Memories of Life in County Roscommon during the 20th

Century 2nd edition by Paul Healy

(Paperback; 9.99 IEP / 13.50 USD / 8.50 UK / 12.70 EURO; Paul Healy;

206

pages, with b/w photos)

 

This book is a fascinating insight into the local history of Roscommon

during a century and its people features interviews with men and women

from

all walks of life.  They talk openly about life, death, happiness and

hardship - and more.  Subjects include: The ass and cart, living

conditions

in thatched houses, schooldays, the house station, wakes and funerals,

the

old fairs, emigration, killing the pig, the rambling houses, dances and

carnivals, the American wakes and much more.  This book captures the

essence

of 100 years in County Roscommon.

 

 

 

Date:  Sun, 10 Jun 2001 11:54:48 -0700 (PDT)

From: Colin Crehan <colin_crehan@yahoo.com> | Block Address | Add to Address Book

Subject:        Re: Cryan/Crehan Forwarded message

To:      CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

 

Niall had mentioned that he presumed: "we all came

from the Cavan direction when the O Briens decided to

pick on us and we had to leg it as quick as possible

to get away from them."

 

I confirmed with my father that Co Caven was where my

grandfather had said our Crehan family branch

originally came (and not Co Tyrone, as I had

mistakenly remembered).

 

Does anyone on the list know of or have any historical

information to back this up?  (when and where and why)

I would be interested in reading more about this.

 

____

 

Also, has anyone had experience with looking for farm

records.  I know that my Grandfather owned a 26 acre

farm (in 5 parcels in Ballyvoneen and Castle French)

... but I'm sure that the family (especially his

father and grandfather) were just tennants of the

French family until Irish land reform vested his

rights.

 

In any case, should I hold out any hope that there

would be a paper trail (especially a government one)

that documents farm tennants ... or would that have

been soley at the discretion of the French family?

 

Regards,

 - Colin Crehan

 

--- Fatarm@aol.com wrote:

> Subj:    {not a subscriber} another crehan

> Date:   6/2/01 10:50:14 AM Eastern Daylight Time

> From:   ncrehan@eircom.net (niall crehan)

> To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

>

> Hi Guys,

>

> Niall Crehan here from Kilcock. County Kildare

> Ireland.

> Son of Pat Crehan who was a pilot with The Irish Aer

> Corps who hailed from a

> place called Bonavella in Milltown Malbay

Ø       County Clare.Also winner of a bronze medal in the

 

 

> 1948 olympics in London.

> He was also a brother of the more famous musician

> Junior (Martin) Crehan who

> played fiddle.> There were ten kids in the pats family and he

> himself had ten of which I am

> the last.> >From his side of the family the ten are in a ripe

> old age of eighty plus.> There are 3 remaining. One in Lahinch Co. Clare, The

> other two are in Long > Beach California and Chicago.> Martin senior or my Grandfather was known as the> master and was also from > around Milltown Malbay.

> He married Margeret Scanlon who came from the

> kilrush Road not too far away > from Quilty in Co. Clare.> She died in 1968.

> > Hope this helps with building the family tree!

> Let me know what else is on it.> Best Regards> Niall> niall@crehans.com> Crehan Musical Instruments

 

Reply-to:       "FamSpack" < >

From: "FamSpack" < > | Block Address | Add to Address Book

Subject:        Re Crehan

Date:  Thu, 14 Jun 2001 01:31:28 +0100

To:      CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Just a few observations for Colin and Naill and other Crehans

 

1.  There is a direct road from Co Cavan through Granard, Ballymahon,

Athlone to Ballinasloe, so it would be logical for there to movement

"across

the Shannon" (at Athlone) after Cromwell's displacements, along this

route.

 

2.  Looking at the Ireatlas of townlands there are two Ballyvoneen

townlands

but no Castle French

a)  Ballyvoneen 59 acres...Co Galway..Tiaquin barony..Ballymacward

civil

parish...Ballinasloe PLU

b)  Ballyvoneen 211 acres Co Galway Kilconnell barony..Killsolan civil

parish..Mountbellow PLU

 

Take your pick

 

At this stage an Irish OS map Discovery series  would be helpful at

this

stage

 

However if you now go to the family search website

http://www.familysearch.org  and look at the catalogue using both the

townland and the civil parish names ,With a bit of searching you will

find

the film numbers of what information is available through the LDS.

I would look first at the 1901 census ,for, with luck, there would

still be

Crehans living there at that date (I do not know your history) and it

would

be a start.

 

If the map can locate roughly where between Castle French and

Ballyvoneen

the local RCchurch would be then you could look up the parish records.

But

the name of the RC parish may well have a different name to that of the

civil parish...I will leave you to do a bit of canny detective work.

 

3. You may be interested that, using the 1901 census that is readily

available on the Leitrim and Roscommon website I entered Crehan in the

surname box  with the result ...no Crehans recorded .Then I cleared

everything and entered Crehan in the "others in household" box and came

up

with the followinf

 

Main St/Elphin    Bernard Crehan age 25 curate born in co Galway,

living in

the household of the parish priest

You may like to look yourself... nearly all Co Roscommon has been

transcribed and other counties are being added..........

http://leitrim-roscommon.com

 

EVE

 

 

From:  Fatarm@aol.com | Block Address | Add to Address Book

Date:   Thu, 14 Jun 2001 21:14:30 EDT

Subject:          Learning about Ireland from the web

To:       CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

PBS (an American media group) has an interesting website including a

travel

program's information about touring Ireland.  It includes an interview

with

the traveller and other links.  Let's just say it's for any tourist,

including the armchair tourist!

Here's the site:  <A

HREF="http://www.pbs.org/wnet/goingplaces2/ireland/">

Going Places - Ireland</A>  or

http://www.pbs.org/wnet/goingplaces2/ireland/

 

For the more politically-interested, there's information about the

Frontline

special "Behind the Mask - the IRA and Sinn Fein".  It contains

interview

transcripts, a chronology, op-ed type pieces, etc.

Here's that site:  <A

HREF="http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/ira/">frontline:

behind

the mask - the ira & sinn fein</A>  or

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/ira/

 

 

 

Date:  Mon, 18 Jun 2001 13:45:52 -0700 (PDT)

From: Colin Crehan <colin_crehan@yahoo.com> | Block Address | Add to Address Book

Subject:        Re: Re Crehan

To:      CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

 

 

Interesting observation about the road, thanks! ...

especially since my Crehan family settled just west of

Athlone in Galway, near the Rosscommon border

(Ballyvoneen is in or next to Ballinmore Bridge ...

between Ballygar and Ahascragh).

 

I think Niall's Crehan branch went the other way

(East).

 

Cromwell would have pushed folks out of Caven in the

1650's (yes?) ... I wonder when this O'Brien push

would have come (I imagine much earlier)

.... and why good sources like MacLysaght list Donegal

as the source of O'Crean (O'Croidheain), with a Sligo

branch (and Cryan in Rosscommon) ... but nothing about

Caven (perhaps Caven is an intermediate stop ... but

when?)

 

Anyone who has a good sense of the history, please let

me know.

 

 - Colin

 

 

From: "M CRYAN" <MAGS@cryan1970.freeserve.co.uk> | Block Address | Add to Address Book

To:      <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>

Subject:        cryan history

Date:  Mon, 18 Jun 2001 23:24:09 +0100

Kevin,

 

I've just seen your email about having a list of all cryan deaths since 1864 (and other info besides!). Are there listings for any from Bohola in County Mayo? They may mention the place name carrownagalda or carrogalda?

 

Any help would be much appreciated.

Margaret Cryan

 

Date:  Tue, 19 Jun 2001 00:30:03 -0400

From: Maureen McCourt Nantista <mornan@optonline.net> | Block Address | Add to Address Book

Subject:        ?4th Genealogical Congress - Dublin

Reply-to:       Maureen McCourt Nantista <mornan@optonline.net>

To:      CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Hello Cryan Researchers,

 

Just wondering if any of you will be attending the Irish Genealogical

Congress this fall.

 

Thought it would be nice if we got together while there to exchange

information, and to simply put faces with names. We might, hopefully, even

get to meet Caoimhghin.

 

If you're going to be in Dublin the week of September 17-23, please let

us know and I'll keep a list. As the time gets closer we can decide on

a day, place and time.Regards,Maureen McCourt Nantista(proud daughter of Eileen Cryan :-)

 

Date:  Wed, 20 Jun 2001 11:40:06 +0100 (BST)

From: Caoimhghin O Croidheain <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> | Block Address | Add to Address Book

Subject:        Break-through

To:      CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Hi

I made a major discovery during the week in the

National LIbrary. I now know, after ten years of

research, in which graveyard my Cryan ancestors are

buried. The obituary of my greatgrandfather's sister,

which follows, also names cousins [the Misses Lowe and

Eardley and P. Eardley (cousins)] which could lead me

to find out about the previous generation. Has anyone

come across these names? Assuming they are first

cousins their mother was either a Cryan or a Dolan. I

suppose that could be confirmed by the 1901 Census

which gives the mother's maiden name.

regards caoimhghin

The Roscoomon Herald articles are on their way. The

National Library is very busy so I sent the references

to the Roscommon Library and they will copy them from

the microfilm (much cheaper too at 40p instead of 1

pound per A3 sheet) I have ordered 21 articles to be

copied. Anyone who is interested in helping retyping

them for the Cryan-List please let me know. I will be

doing up to possibly 1911..........

 

The Roscommon Herald

March 22 1902 p.2

Obituary

Death of Miss Mary J. Cryan

On Thursday, 12 inst, there pased quietly away to her

reward one of the most estimable and exemplary of

young ladies, in the person of the above-named young

lady at the premature age of 38 years despite

unremitting medical efforts. She died surrounded by

her sorrowing parents, sisters and relatives, and

fortified by the Catholic Church. She was in failing

health during the last six or eight months and her end

was naturally accelerated by the death of her brother

only two months since. Although there was very faint

hopes of her recovery since this sad affliction still

the mournfull newsof her death gave rise to general

and widespread expressions of sincere sorrow and

regret. She was for eighteen years engaged in the

teaching profession, during which time she endeared

herself to all by her genial and amiable manners. Her

tender disposition as a teacher inspired confidence

and affection in the little ones intrusted to her

charge, for whom she was over-zealous in imparting

religious and secular knowledge. She was a highly

respected member of the Boyle Teachers Association,

always prompt and generous in supporting any

appealmade on behalf of those in distress. Her remains

were interred in the family sepulchre of Eastersnow,

and the long procession that followed her remains to

the grave was ample proof of the respect and esteem in

which the family is held. Wreaths were sent by the

following - Mr and Mrs Cryan and family; the Misses

Forde; the Misses Shiel, and Mr and Mrs T. Daly. The

chief mourners were - Mr and Mrs Cryan (parents); the

Misses Kate and Maggie A. Cryan (sisters); the Misses

Lowe and Eardley and P. Eardley (cousins). [List of

people at funeral follows end of article]

 

 

 

Date:  Wed, 20 Jun 2001 12:52:34 +0100 (BST)

From: Caoimhghin O Croidheain <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> | Block Address | Add to Address Book

Subject:        Cryan/Judge

To:      CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Hi

 

Who was interested in the Cryan/Judge connection??

I saw an ad in Roscommon Herald 1902 April 26 :

 

 

Lime for Sale at Cryan's Kilns (Lately Judges)

 

I can get a copy.

 

regards caoimhghin

 

From: Karen McElrath <k.mcelrath@qub.ac.uk> | Block Address | Add to Address Book

Reply-to:       k.mcelrath@qub.ac.uk

To:      Caoimhghin O Croidheain <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>

CC:     CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Subject:        Re: Cryan/Judge and typing

Date:  Wed, 20 Jun 2001 13:08:09 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time)

 

On Wed, 20 Jun 2001 12:52:34 +0100 (BST)

=?iso-8859-1?q?Caoimhghin=20O=20Croidheain?=

<caoimhghin@yahoo.com> wrote:

 

> Hi

>

> Who was interested in the Cryan/Judge connection??

> I saw an ad in Roscommon Herald 1902 April 26 :

>

>

> Lime for Sale at Cryan's Kilns (Lately Judges)

>

> I can get a copy.

>

> regards caoimhghin

 

pat cryans was interested, i believe.  he may be off-line for a

bit - not sure.  as i recall, 'judge' was the anglicised

version of the name.  i think the original was something like

breheny.

 

and yes, caoimhghin, i'd be happy to retype for you.  karen

 

 

----------------------

Karen McElrath

1-3 College Park East

School of Sociology & Social Policy

Queen's University, Belfast

BT7 1NN        

N. Ireland

 

telephone:    028-90-273551

FAX:          028-90-273943

from the USA: 011-44-28-90-273551

 

Date:  Wed, 20 Jun 2001 05:17:47 -0700 (PDT)

From: Sean Crean <sfcrean@yahoo.com> | Block Address | Add to Address Book

Subject:        Re: Break-through

To:      Caoimhghin O Croidheain <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>

Congratulations Caoimhghin!  It's great to hear when

someone gets through another wall...

 

Sean O'Crean

 

From: JudyBruce@aol.com | Block Address | Add to Address Book

Date:  Wed, 20 Jun 2001 10:21:26 EDT

Subject:        Re: Typing request

To:      caoimhghin@yahoo.com

Hi,

I am on the Cryan list and follow the posts there...as of yet I have not made

a breakthru or at least a positive trail but I keep getting snippets that fit

my Cryan ancestry. I have plenty of time and would be more than happy to

participate in helping you type the notes into the computer.

 

Judy Bruce

3612 Kevin Drive

Norfolk, VA 23518

 

From: JudyBruce@aol.com | Block Address | Add to Address Book

Date:  Wed, 20 Jun 2001 12:03:28 EDT

Subject:        Re: My Cryans

To:      caoimhghin@yahoo.com

Hello again,

 

My grandmother was Mary Honora Cryan born 1884 in Lowell.Ma.

Her father was Michael John Cryan born 1855 in Co. Roscommon. I have been

told the name of town was Ballynanulthagh. Which I think is near the border

of Co. Sligo?

Her mother was Ellen Margaret Meehan born in Co. Sligo circa 1865-69

Mary Honora's siblings were:

Anne  1886

James 1888

Ella 1889

Michael 1892

Frances 1894

William 1895

All of these children were born in Lowell.

From the list and emails shared from the list it seems that Mary Honora's

grandfather on the Cryan side was James Cryan born abt 1833 in Boyle, Co.

Roscommon... his wife was supposed to have been Honoria Bierne/Byrne born abt

1839 in Roscommon and this couple had 8 children:

Michael 1855 and married a Meehan

Brigid/Bridget/Delia?? 1856 died 1941

Anne 1857 died Ulster, married a Walsh/Welch

James 1859 married Ann Cryan (from Co. Sligo)

Martin 1861

Hanoria 1863

John 1865

Mary "Jane" 1870

 

Mary Honora's grandfather James (born 1833) was the (supposed) (from list)

son of Michael Cryan -have no dates

James' mother was (possibly) Bridget Fury - have no dates

James and Bridget had 7? children

Anne 1816

Mary 1819

Winifred 1820

Bridget 1822

Margaret 1826

John 1830

James 1833

This is why I keep reading the posts in hopes a few more clues will pop up

for me, I do not usually post anything as I do not think I have anything to

add.....but i am ALWAYS reading the messages. (grin)

 

Let me know if you need my help with the typing.

 

Judy Bruce

 

From: "Paul Cryan" <p_cryan@hotmail.com> | Block Address | Add to Address Book

To:      caoimhghin@yahoo.com

Subject:        Family research

Date:  Wed, 20 Jun 2001 19:12:15 +0100

Kevin,

 

I was going through the list of Cryan deaths on your website and was

wondering what information you get on the death certificate and is it

possible to order them. My great great grandfather died between 1901

and

1911 and I think I have narrowed his death down to 3/4 enteries.

Looking forward to hearing from you.

Paul Cryan

 

From: JudyBruce@aol.com | Block Address | Add to Address Book

Date:  Thu, 21 Jun 2001 06:32:54 EDT

Subject:        Re: Articles re: Cryans

To:      caoimhghin@yahoo.com

Hi,

No I did not see those articles...I will be on the lookout for them to appear

on list. Thanks Judy [Roscommon Herald articles ]

 

From: "M CRYAN" <MAGS@cryan1970.freeserve.co.uk> | Block Address | Add to Address Book

To:      "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>

Subject:        Re: cryan history

Date:  Fri, 22 Jun 2001 11:52:35 +0100

caoimhghin,

 

Your site was brilliant .... I think I've found the some more info on

my

great grandad and others on it!

 

Please add me to the Cryan list - you never know I could find more info

besides!

 

Thanks again,

Margaret

 

 

----- Original Message -----

From: "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>

To: "M CRYAN" <MAGS@cryan1970.freeserve.co.uk>

Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 10:17 AM

Subject: Re: cryan history

 

 

> Hi

> The deaths list and all the emails from the Cryan-list

> since it started in Jan 1998 are on my site

> geocities.com/caoimhghin

> see family history link

> Are you on the list? it is free and I could get Leslie

> (the moderator)to put you on if you like.

> caoimhghin

> --- M CRYAN <MAGS@cryan1970.freeserve.co.uk> wrote: >

> Kevin,

> >

> > I've just seen your email about having a list of all

> > cryan deaths since 1864 (and other info besides!).

> > Are there listings for any from Bohola in County

> > Mayo? They may mention the place name carrownagalda

> > or carrogalda?

> >

> > Any help would be much appreciated.

> > Margaret Cryan

> >

> From:         "dave oram" <dao@blueyonder.co.uk> | Block Address | Add to Address Book

Subject:        New Member

Date:  Sat, 23 Jun 2001 12:00:15 +0100

To:      CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Hi Listers

              I am new to the list and trying to search the Family of

my wife.

 

Alexander CRYANS  b 1920 Bridgeton

 

Patrick CRYANS m Mary WELSH in 1899 Glasgow.

 

Can you help or have you any information.

 

T.I.A.

Dave in Walsall.

 

 

Date:  Sat, 23 Jun 2001 15:24:06 PDT

From: Karen McElrath <K.McElrath@Queens-Belfast.AC.UK> | Block Address | Add to Address Book

Reply-to:       K.McElrath@Queens-Belfast.AC.UK

Subject:        Re: New Member

To:      CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

 

 

 

On Sat, 23 Jun 2001 12:00:15 +0100 dave oram wrote:

 

> From: dave oram <dao@blueyonder.co.uk>

> Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 12:00:15 +0100

> Subject: New Member

> To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

>

> Hi Listers

>               I am new to the list and trying to search the Family of

my wife.

>

> Alexander CRYANS  b 1920 Bridgeton

>

> Patrick CRYANS m Mary WELSH in 1899 Glasgow.

>

> Can you help or have you any information.

>

> T.I.A.

> Dave in Walsall.

>

>

 

dave:  have you talked to Patrick Cryans from England?  He has CRYANS

roots

from glasgow.  i suspect that it is the same family.  karen

 

 

 

From: Karen McElrath <k.mcelrath@qub.ac.uk> | Block Address | Add to Address Book

Reply-to:       k.mcelrath@qub.ac.uk

To:      Caoimhghin O Croidheain <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>

Subject:        Re: p.s.

Date:  Mon, 25 Jun 2001 14:57:54 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time)

 

hiya:  just received this email and i am hoping that you might

be able to respond to bill, a new lister.  in your abundant

spare time of course!!!!!!!!!   i am clueless!  many thanks,

karen

 

 

 

On Mon, 25 Jun 2001 09:28:02

 

BillCroghan@aol.com wrote:

 

> Hello!  I'm new to genealogical research too, so forgive the

fundamental nature of my question:  Is the name CRYAN in the

same ancestoral tree/history as the name CROGHAN?

>              Bill

 

From: "M CRYAN" <MAGS@cryan1970.freeserve.co.uk> | Block Address | Add to Address Book

Subject:        Cryans from Bohola, County Mayo

Date:  Mon, 25 Jun 2001 23:16:47 +0100

To:      CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Dear all,

 

Does anyone out there have any Cryan ancestors from Bohola, County

Mayo? My great grandfather was from there (John Cryan born 1842?).

 

Any info would be much appreciated.

 

Margaret

 

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From:  "FamSpack" < > | Block Address | Add to Address Book

To:       "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>

Subject:          Re: Hi

Date:   Tue, 26 Jun 2001 00:29:42 +0100

Hi,

I have had a good look through the records. Eardley and Lowe /sometimes

spelled Lough are uncommon names in the records. And anything that

turns up

rather depends on what one means by cousin. I would think that a

newspater

report of a funeral would give perhaps first and second cousins as

cousins.

Anyway here is what I could find that could be relevant...............I

have

looked backwards ,forwards and inside out with many possibilities of

relationships.

 

Pat Eardly b 15 Sept 1870  Balleenameen Co Ros. Civil Registration

parents Francis Eardly and Anne Cain    (could this have been

mistranscribed

or a mistake in the registers?)

Is this the Pat of the 1901 census? If so then there should be a

Kate/Catherine and a James in the register index.(if I remember

correctly

when I transcribed that entry for the 1901 census, there was nothing in

the

relationship box so I thought that I could not presume but would put

"probably"....it is over a year ago since I did the transcribing of

that

film)

 

 

James CRYAN m Honor LOWE 5 April 1842 in Boyle RC

Michael LOUGH m Brigid KAIN  4 Aug 1839   Roscommon and Kilteevan RC

 

Thomas LOUGH/Lowe?  c 30 Aug 1843 Roscommon and Kiteevan RC

parents Thomas LOUGH and Margaret DONLAN ( could this be mis

transcribed ?)

 

could this be the father of this family ?

parents Thomas Lowe and Brigid KELLY all born Killukin and Killumnod RC

Margaret b 1 July 1866

John b 20 Sept 1868

AnnaMaria b 19 july 1872

Thomas b 3 Nov 1874

Brigid b 23 july 1876

 

I am sorry that this is not much. But I would think that it would be

quicker

and more direct to invest in the birth certs of Pat or Kate or James

and if

it is the same as the Pat above , the marriage cert of Francis and Anne

may

come up with something useful. I understand that you can get

photocopies of

the entries over the counter at Joyce House (is that correct ?) Have

you

used this facility before?

I would think that the genealogical society research is expensive, and

having used theri services once, found when looking at the records

myself

that there was much more that they had not discovered

...........however it

can be useful for a key element if there is no other way.

 

Best of luck with this Eve

 

From: Fatarm@aol.com | Block Address | Add to Address Book

Date:  Tue, 26 Jun 2001 14:12:30 EDT

Subject:        Re: cryan history

To:      caoimhghin@yahoo.com

She's online and posting!  Thanks for forwarding me the interests ...

Sorry I

haven't replied to your other message yet, but I'll get to it soon. 

Don't

have the info handy and we've been on holiday.  Lots of sand

everywhere! 

Life will return to "normal" sometime around 7/7 I predict.  Maybe. 

Well,

probably not.  But I'll get stuff to you before then.  Take care,

Leslie

 

From: Fatarm@aol.com | Block Address | Add to Address Book

Date:  Tue, 26 Jun 2001 14:14:34 EDT

Subject:        Re: Break-through

To:      CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Congrats on the breakthrough ... anyone else a new story to share? 

Thanks

for posting your success and expanding family circle/names.  Every clue

helps...

 

 

Reply-to:       "FamSpack" < >

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Subject:        Glasgow CRYANS

Date:  Wed, 27 Jun 2001 01:00:15 +0100

To:      CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

This is part of what I sent to Pat Cryans in reply to a request. It may

be

of interest to Dave Oram....Hi and welcome to the list Dave.

 

These are 3 brothers, I think,  and they appear in various records with

surnames of different spellings...CRYAN,CREAN,CREIGHAN,CRIAN  etc

 

I have not found an Owen CRYAN but there are several Patrick CRYAN

candidates.However I have found an Owen CRYANS - but you may have these

******************

1881 census of GB

Owen CRYANS 181 South Wellington St, Govan ,Lanarkshire - Foundry

Labourer -

age 40 born Ireland

Anne CRYANs - wife - 30 - born Bathgate Linlithgow

  *** Patrick son - aged 5 - born Glasgow  ***(see below)

William son - aged 3 - born Glasgow

Mary Anne daughter - aged 1 - born Glasgow

*********************

1881 census of GB

John CRYANS 227 South Wellington St, Govan, Lanarkshire - Labourer -

aged

44 - born Sligo, Ireland

Mary CRYANS - wife - aged 30 - born Glasgow

Hannah daughter - aged 11 born Glasgow

Mary daughter - aged 7 - born glasgow

John son - aged 2 - born Glasgow

Patrick son - aged 1mth - born Glasgow

also in the same house

Patrick CRYANS - visitor - labourer - aged 40 - born Sligo Ireland

Ann CRYANS - wife - aged 28 - born Sligo Ireland

Mary daughter - aged 9 - born Sligo Ireland

Bridget - daughter - aged 7 - born Sligo Ireland

Patrick - son - aged 3 born Sligo Ireland

Annie - son ?? - aged 1 born Sligo Ireland  (could the name be

mistranscribed or "son" be just a mistake)

********************

OBSERVATIONS

 

Owen and Patrick  - the same age twins or cousins or just born close

together

Is John the same family ?

It looks as though Patrick went back to Ireland  and married in 1871

and has

returnd shortly before the census

Could the names of Owen and Patrick's parents be Mary and Patrick as

borth

have these as the names of the first son and first daughter ?

 

I believe Patrick, son of Owen CRYANS and Anne(above) ,married Mary

Welsh

Owen CRYANS died 24 November 1888.

 

Pat Cryans will give a fuller explanation.

Good Luck.....!

Eve

 

 

 

Date:  Wed, 27 Jun 2001 15:12:57 +0100 (BST)

From: Caoimhghin O Croidheain <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> | Block Address | Add to Address Book

Subject:        BAPTISMS -LIVERPOOL, 1856 - 1882

To:      CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hibernia/aus/ausbpc.htm

 

 

 

 

BAPTISMS, ST. AUSTIN'S RC CHURCH, GRASSENDALE,

GARSTON, LIVERPOOL, 1856 - 1882

 

Transcribed by Peter Doyle, Indexed by Patrick Neill

 

 

CRANE, BERNARDUS      31 JUL 1870 07 AUG 1870            PATRICII &

MARIA

CREAN, JOHN         08 JUN 1872 16 JUN 1872 PATRICII & MARIA

CREAN, THOMAS   06 EDC 1873            14 DEC 1873            PATRICII & MARIA

CREEN, MARIA       31 OCT 1875            05 NOV 1875            PATRITII & MARIA

 

Reply-to:       "FamSpack" < >

From: "FamSpack" < > | Block Address | Add to Address Book

Subject:        CRYAN/LAVIN Bingo !

Date:  Thu, 28 Jun 2001 17:08:39 +0100

To:      CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Hi Anne and Karen,

This may be of interest to you.

Found in the Keash RC parish records -(Keash RC=Drumrat RC and Toomour

RC)

 

10 May 1846  Baptism of Bridget LAVIN of Dernaskeagh (slightly

different

spelling in the PRs)

Parents John LAVIN and Bridget CRYAN

Witness Andrew DYER and Mary LAVIN

 

I can not find any others that you mention but then the is incomplete

as

there are several gaps. However one can now locate the townland from

which

your family came. They may even come up on the 1901 census ,when I have

extracted the data, as LAVINs still living in Dernaskeagh.

 

There is however at least one other John LAVIN married to Catherine

RUANE

also living in Dernaskeagh

 

I did not find any relevant marriages.

 

Good Luck Eve

 

Reply-to:       "FamSpack" < >

From: "FamSpack" < > | Block Address | Add to Address Book

To:      "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>

Subject:        Re: Hi

Date:  Fri, 29 Jun 2001 09:18:40 +0100

I think that I would go further with this P Eardley and at least look

at as

many records as I could find. There were so few Eardleys in Ireland in

my

list that those registered nearby must be related. (The majority of

Eardleys

seem to come from Staffordshire !!!)

 

It said "cousins" in the funeral report and 2 or 3 of them went to the

funeral as mourners so my guess is that it must be at least second

cousins.

 

The marriage certificate of Francis may only give his father's name and

his

wife's father's name so the birth certs of Francis and wife or similar

would

be more useful but that would be before registration.

I do not know what else Joyce House has to offer but one other

suggestion

would be to look at wills where sometimes all sorts of relationships

are

mentioned. Would you be able to look without buying a copy? Pat

Eardley,

Francis Eardley and John Cryan could be a start.

 

Have you also tried the 1901 census R-L site ? It could give clues. It

could

also give a direction with the CAIN/CRIAN/CRYAN links....looking for

others

with the same spelling etc.

 

 

I am not sure what else is available in Dublin............ I will have

a

think

 

Good luck Eve

 

From: "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>

To: "FamSpack" < >

Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2001 3:26 PM

Subject: Re: Hi

 

 

Hi Eve

I went to Joyce Houce and got out the cert for Pat

Eardley and it definitely says CAIN (could this be a

version of Keane like Kain below?) I wonder should I

have got a sibling as the Pat cert would probably be

the same as the one you got anyway [I have just

realised] So should I get the marriage cert now if it

is Cain?

Caoimhghin

 

From: Karen McElrath <k.mcelrath@qub.ac.uk> | Block Address | Add to Address Book

Reply-to:       k.mcelrath@qub.ac.uk

To:      Caoimhghin O Croidheain <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>

Subject:        Re: received

Date:  Fri, 29 Jun 2001 10:32:21 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time)

hiya caoimhghin:  i received the material today.  no, it is not

too much.  i will finish by the end of next week and send a disk

copy, hard copies (for you to check) and the original material

back to you. 

 

send me your snail mail please.  i have it here somewhere but

cannot locate it at present.  hope you are well!  karen

 

----------------------

Dr. Karen McElrath

1-3 College Park East

School of Sociology & Social Policy

Queen's University, Belfast

BT7 1NN        

N. Ireland

 

telephone:    028-90-273551

FAX:          028-90-273943

from the USA: 011-44-28-90-273551

 

Date:   Fri, 29 Jun 2001 08:36:49 -0400

From:  Anne Duffy <rid22576@ride.ri.net> | Block Address | Add to Address Book

Reply-to:        rid22576@ride.ri.net

Subject:          Lavin/Cryan

To:       CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Hi Eve,

Thank you so much for that gem. In the census in the US 1880 I have a

daughter Delia born 1858.Mostly she uses the Delia but in one census

she

is Bridget. Are these names interchangeable? Could the daughter you

found have died and they renamed another one Bridget? I have at this

time the film from the FHC for the RC records for Drumrat 1843-1881 -

lots of  Crayans and some Lavins but no matches. I am also looking for

a

Patrick Duffy- Bridget McDonough connection in the same area. My

question is what film should I be ordering? I'm confused about the name

of the area I should looking for at the FHC. Also does anyone know if

Gurteen and Gorteen are the same place? and what area would have church

records for that area?

TIA,

Anne

 

--

******

Anne Duffy

mailto:rid22576@ride.ri.net

 

 

 

From: ljstandak@webtv.net (Lyle Staehnke) | Block Address | Add to Address Book

Date:  Sat, 30 Jun 2001 16:38:32 -0700 (PDT)

Subject:        RE:Owen Cryan

To:      CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

I haven` been watching that close, so I don`t know if this has been

listed before. From the family history center I.G. index it lists Owen

Cryan baptized 8 Jan. 1866 Gurteen distict, Sligo..   father John

Cryan.

.. Mother... Margaret Hannon.. 

 

Lyle

 

 

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From: "FamSpack" < > | Block Address | Add to Address Book

Subject:        Re Cryan - Bohola

Date:  Sun, 1 Jul 2001 01:03:16 +0100

To:      CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

In my early days of looking at Parish Records and not allowing enough

time

to look thoroughly at a whole LDS film when there was more than one

parish

on a film, I glanced through Bohola and remember very few entries for

CRYAN

but sorry ,I did not note them down. There were some however.

 

If you look at the LDS site http://www.familysearch.com  and look in

the

catalogue you will find the film numbers of the parish registers which

you

can borrow  to read at the LDS.(for a fee very much less than the air

fare)

 

Eve

 

From:  "Pat Cryans" <pat@pcryans.fsnet.co.uk> | Block Address | Add to Address Book

To:       "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>

Subject:          Re: Cryan/Judge

Date:   Sun, 1 Jul 2001 17:54:31 +0100

Kevin, it is my familyl that were Judge/Cryan,i would be most

greatfulif you

could send me a copy.

My Cryan,swere in Sligo but as you know many wen,t back and forth over

the

border

REGARDS PATRICK CRYANS

 

Date:  Mon, 2 Jul 2001 06:33:27 -0700 (PDT)

From: Colin Crehan <colin_crehan@yahoo.com> | Block Address | Add to Address Book

Subject:        RE: Glasgow CRYANS

To:      CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

 

Owen is an anglicization of Eoghan ... as in Eoghan,

King of  Ailech and son of Niall of the Nine Hostages

(O'Neil).  Eoghan died around 465 AD.  Ailech was

renamed County Tyrone, whose name stems from "Tir

Eoghain" (Tribe of Owen).

 

I have never heard the Eugene-Owen connection ... and

I believe Eugene is a Greek name.  That's not to say

that there is not a Greek connection ... but there is

an ancient Irish connection to "Owen".

 

BTW, the O'Creans are a branch of the ancient Crean

sept of the Cenel Eoghain in Donegal.  The Cenel

Eoghain is the collective name for all of the septs

descended from Eoghan.

Regards,- Colin

From: "William & Anita Crane" <wcrane2@san.rr.com> | Block Address | Add to Address Book

Subject:        Re: Glasgow CRYANS

Date:  Mon, 2 Jul 2001 07:43:42 -0500

To:      CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Very good clarification on the Eugene-Owen relationship (probably none

or

just a local nickname for a certain person).

 

My father was born "O'Crean" - baptismal certificate in Philadelphia, 

PA,

of Irish immigrant parents (Donegal) in 1903.  O'Crean was further

anglicized to Crane and to my knowledge all the American descendents of

this

family use "Crane."

 

However, I have seen other information showing that the sept Crean

started

in Sligo, then moved later to Donegal.  Anything further on this???

 

Best Regards,Bill Crane

 

Date:  Mon, 2 Jul 2001 18:24:17 +0100 (BST)

From: Caoimhghin O Croidheain <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> Subject:       Fwd: Deeds

 

Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 20:03:05 EST

From: <Fatarm@aol.com>

To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Message-ID: <817ec44d.3679a9c9@aol.com>

Mary Creaser's research,

from the Registry of Deeds,

Henrietta Street, Dublin: I'll label them "Creaser's

Registry of Deeds

Precis of Memorials of Deeds relating to CREAN and

CRYAN of Co.s Sligo and

Roscommon found in a search of the NAME INDEXES.

 

[1] 23 December 1747

(Ref. 353 97910)

JOHN CREAN of the TOWN and COUNTY of SLIGO, merchant,

to THOMAS CASEY of the

same, merchant;

[JOHN CREAN] demised and farm let to THOMAS CASEY that

house or tenement

situate and lying in RATCLIFFE STREET, SLIGO, and then

in possession of the

said JOHN CREAN together with outhouses, backyard and

appurtenances except the

shop near CALEB BELL's house with a room and cellar

together with thirty feet

of ground adjacent to the said cellar which [....?] to

MRS FRANCES FAHY of

SLIGOE, to have [........?] the Passage of the said

Dwelling House to hold

unto the said THOMAS CASEY his heirs and assigns for

the term of 21 years from

the 25th March last at the yearly rent of 10 pounds

10s sterling ..... (usual

conditions for re-entry, distress etc. in case of

non-payment of rent.)

 

[2] 13th June 1767

(Ref. 266 56 167 738)

HENRY CREAN of STREAMSTOWN, CO. SLIGO, gent., for 264

pounds 8s sterling did

bargain, sell, etc. to JOHN LLYOD of CROGHAN, CO.

ROSCOMMON, Esq., all lands

of CARROWKEEL, BARONY TIRERAGH, CO. SLIGO for

remainder of 21 year term as

demised to HENRY CREAN by JAMES MCDONAGH of KNAPPAGH,

CO. SLIGO, gent., by

indenture dated 20 June 1764.

 

 

[3] 1794

(Ref. 263 313692)

 

Memo of indented Deed of Lease between LAURENCE CREAN

of BOYLE, gent., and

JOHN CURLEY of BRICKEEN, CO. SLIGO, farmer, of all

that part of DRUMDONEY not

occupied by PAT CONNELLAN or OWEN GAFFNEY, for term of

16 years, at rent of

10s per acre per annum.

 

[4] 28th March 1795

(Ref. 232 313318)

 

Memo of an Indenture and Deed of Lease between

LAURENCE CREAN  of the Town of

BOYLE, CO. ROSCOMMON, gent., of the one part, and

MICHAEL CONLAN of

ARMAGHCARTY in CO. SLIGO, Farmer, of the other part,

of all that part of

DROMDONYBEGG now in the actual possession of the said

MICHAEL CONLAN,

containing about 30 acres, during the time, term and

space of 16 years from

1st May ensuing the date thereof in as full and ample

a manner as he holds the

same provided the [title?] of the said ROBERT CREAN in

said lands so long

subsists, yielding and paying yearly during said lease

the sum of 12s sterling

per acre for any acre therein contained on the days

and times specified in

said lease for payment of said rent to said LAURENCE

CREAN and is witnessed by

EDWARD HENRY of BOYLE, PATE HENDERSON and JOHN CONLAN

of BOYLE ..... LAURENCE

CREAN seal.Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 11:43:24 EST

 

[5] 4 December 1795

(Ref. 498 371 319251)

 

Deed of Assignment made by LAURENCE CREAN of the Town

of BOYLE, CO. ROSCOMMON,

merchant, to JOHN IRWIN of EMLAGH in the said Co.

Esq., whereby the said

LAURENCE CREAN in consideration of the sum of 70

pounds sterling to him paid

by the said JOHN IRWIN did assign and make over unto

the said JOHN IRWIN all

his, the said LAURENCE CREAN'S right, title, and

interest of in and to the

lands of ARDMOYLE with the appurtenances thereto

belonging and situate lying

and being in the BARONY of BOYLE, in the CO.

ROSCOMMON, for the residue and

remainder of a term of years yet to come and unexpired

which JOHN HELLY late

of KILLFREE in the CO. SLIGO Gent. had in the said

lands of ARDMOYLE and sold

by the SHERIFF of the CO. ROSCOMMON unto the said

LAURENCE CREAN, in which

said deed thee [there?] are other clauses and which

said deed and this memo is

witnessed by PHILIP LYNCH of CARRICK ON SHANNON

Innkeeper and by JAS. DIGNAM

of EMLAGH In CO. ROSCOMMON, servant.

LAURENCE CREAN sealed, signed and delivered in

presence of PHILIP LYNCH, JAS.

DIGNAM.  The above named PHILIP LYNCH maketh oath that

he saw the above named

LAURENCE CREAN duly execute the Deed of Assignment

etc..

 

[6] 1810

(Ref. 632 488 434400)

 

Memo of Deed of Assignment by ROBERT CRYAN  of BOYLE,

Dealer, to JNO. FREEMAN,

Brewer, of his interest in three leases, viz. lands of

KNOCKRUSH, DEERPARK,

and in the TOWN of BOYLE, for 140 pounds, which sum he

owed to FREEMAN.

[Mentions 'said MICHAEL CRYAN' .... similar to 1795

memo 'said ROBERT CREAN'.]

 

[7] 17 February 1817

(Ref. 309 489244)

 

Memo of indented Deed etc. between PAT MURRIN, farmer,

of BRIDOGUE BRIDGE, CO.

ROSCOMMON, and JANE MURRIN, his eldest daughter, of

the one part, and JOHN

CRYAN, merchant of BOYLE, in consideration of a

marriage shortly to be

solemnised between the above JOHN CRYAN and JANE

MURRIN ...... PAT MURRIN

agreed to pay JOHN CRYAN 300 pounds as a marriage

portion, but if JANE died

before the safe delivery of her first child, JOHN

CRYAN was to refund 150

pounds.

If JOHN CRYAN died before the birth of an heir, his

widow JANE was to receive

150 pounds back.

 

[8] 24th July 1833

(Ref. Vol. 14 No. 12)

 

Memo of Deed dated 24th July 1833 between JOHN CRYAN

of BOYLE CO. ROSCOMMON

Gent. of the first part, MARY ANNE CRYAN widow of

ROBERT CRYAN, late of BOYLE,

deceased, of the second part, and PETER CRYAN of BOYLE

Esq., of the third

part.  Said ROBERT CRYAN had lately died intestate

ceased of freehold estate

and personal property leaving the said JOHN CRYAN his

eldest son, the said

MARY ANNE CRYAN his widow and four infant children by

her, and the said PETER

CRYAN his youngest son by a former wife ..... a sum of

180 pounds personal

property would remain as a residue after payment of

ROBERT CRYAN'S debts,

funeral expenses etc. to be divided amongst his next

of kin.

Freehold estate consisted of two houses in the Back

Lane in the Town of BOYLE,

also a dwelling house where he resided.  Also land of

KNOCKARUSH, the DEERPARK

and LUGNAMUDDAGH in the Barony of Boyle.  Said JOHN

CRYAN for a consideration

had granted etc. to PETER CRYAN in his actual

possession being etc. all that

and those the said house in the town wherein the said

ROBERT resided, also the

said lands of LUGNAMUDDAGH and the DEERPARK except for

two acres thereof with

the house and garden attached, late in the possession

of the said ROBERT CRYAN

and one THOMAS MCKINSIE, paying thereon the head rent

of 1 pound annually and

a proportionate share of taxes.  Also the head rent of

the houses in the Back

Lane in BOYLE and the head rent and taxes fo the lands

of KNOCKARUSH which

said houses and land the said JOHN CRYAN reserved to

himself for his own use

and benefit, to hold said house in which ROBERT CRYAN

resided etc. to PETER

CRYAN his heirs etc. for remainder of term upon the

trust and uses contained

in the deed.

Witnessed by PATRICK MCDERMOTT of BOYLE, merchant.

 

[9] 30 June 1834

(Ref. Vol. 15 No. 297)

 

JAMES CRYAN a tenant of JAMES FLEMING of ABBEYVILLE,

CO. SLIGO, on land at

TRIENMACMURTAGH, Barony of COOLAVIN, CO. SLIGO.

DARBY BREHENY also a tenant.

 

 

[10]  27 April 1836

(Ref. Vol. 20 No. 218)

 

Between JOHN CRYAN of BOYLE, of the first part, and

MARY ANNE CRYAN of BOYLE

of the second, reciting that the Rt. Hon. Lord

Viscount Lorton did on the

first of October 1822 demise etc. to ROBERT CRYAN part

of the lands of

DEERPARK containing 11 acres 2 roods 30 perches

situate etc. in the parish and

Barony of BOYLE for the term of the natural life of

HENRY FRY, son to HENRY

FRY of FRYBROOK, Esq., or for 21 years, whichever was

the longer.  ROBERT

CRYAN now dead, said JOHN CRYAN as eldest son and heir

entitled to 2 acres or

thereabouts of said lands as in the possession of

MICHAEL CONLAN, PAT BRENNAN,

and MULLANEY, said JOHN CRYAN for and in consideration

of the sum of 32 pounds

did grant etc. unto said MARY ANNE CRYAN etc. the said

2 acres of DEERPARK

with all rents and profits etc..

 

[11]  1859

(Ref. Vol. 33 No. 61)

 

Marriage Settlement between JAMES REILLY of BOYLE,

shopkeeper for the first

part, MARY ANN CRYAN, widow, and MARY ANN CRYAN,

spinster, (daughter), of the

second part, and PETER CRYAN M.D., a trustee, of the

third part;

100 pounds marriage portion etc. etc.

Witnessed by Catholic priest.

 

[12]  July 1882

 

MICHAEL CRYAN to P.W. C., farmer of CARROWCRORY,

BARONY OF CORRAN, CO. SLIGO,

loan of 100 pounds for land improvement (Landed

Property Improvement Act).

 

[13]  21 May 1883

 

PATRICK CRYAN of ARDMOYLE, FRENCHPARK, CO. ROSCOMMON

Loan of 374 pounds for mortgage to purchase.

 

[14]  20 December 1884

 

MATHEW [sic] CRYAN tenant farmer of DERNASKEAGH,

BARONY OF CORRAN, CO. SLIGO,

loan of 50 pounds.

Witnesses:  REV. PATRICK SCULLY, MATTHEW KILLORAN.

Executed:  BALLYMOTE

 

From: "Pat Cryans" <pat@pcryans.fsnet.co.uk> | Block Address | Add to Address Book

To:      "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>

Subject:        Re: Cryan/Judge

Date:  Mon, 2 Jul 2001 19:32:56 +0100

Hi KEVIN,

It,s me again my addressis

105 CONISTON AVENUE UPMINSTER ESSEX RM14 3XL ENGLAND.

This is the first connection CRYAN JUDGE THAT I HAVE COME ACCROSS.

 

Iknow there were PATRICK JUDGE,S IN BOYLE IN THE GRIFFITHS VALUATION.

Anything you may have would be appreciated.

We must be the most senior CRYAN researchers now.

Allt the best Kevin

Patrick Cryans

 

From: JLedden49@aol.com | Block Address | Add to Address Book

Date:  Mon, 2 Jul 2001 15:27:04 EDT

Subject:        Re: Lavin/Cryan

To:      CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Anne Duffy <rid22576@ride.ri.net> asked

 

<< Mostly she uses the Delia but in one census she is Bridget. Are

these

names interchangeable? >>

Yes.  Delia was commonly used as a nickname for Bridget.

 

Date:  Mon, 2 Jul 2001 14:27:35 -0500 (CDT)

From: Kathleen A Craine <K-Craine@neiu.edu> | Block Address | Add to Address Book

Subject:        Re: Eugene/Owen

To:      CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

The Eugene/Owen name pattern is prominent in my CREAN/CRAINE family. 

My

understanding is that the original Irish name is Eoghain; that its

pronunciation is somewhat like "Owen", and the Anglicized spelling of

Eoghain is "Eugene."  In my family tree I have Eugenes named after

Owens,

and vice-versa. Kathleen CraineChicago, IL

 

Date:   Mon, 2 Jul 2001 18:24:17 +0100 (BST)

From:  Caoimhghin O Croidheain <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> | Block Address | Add to Address Book

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Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 20:03:05 EST

From: <Fatarm@aol.com>

To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Message-ID: <817ec44d.3679a9c9@aol.com>

Mary Creaser's research,

from the Registry of Deeds,

Henrietta Street, Dublin: I'll label them "Creaser's

Registry of Deeds

Precis of Memorials of Deeds relating to CREAN and

CRYAN of Co.s Sligo and

Roscommon found in a search of the NAME INDEXES.

 

[1] 23 December 1747

(Ref. 353 97910)

JOHN CREAN of the TOWN and COUNTY of SLIGO, merchant,

to THOMAS CASEY of the

same, merchant;

[JOHN CREAN] demised and farm let to THOMAS CASEY that

house or tenement

situate and lying in RATCLIFFE STREET, SLIGO, and then

in possession of the

said JOHN CREAN together with outhouses, backyard and

appurtenances except the

shop near CALEB BELL's house with a room and cellar

together with thirty feet

of ground adjacent to the said cellar which [....?] to

MRS FRANCES FAHY of

SLIGOE, to have [........?] the Passage of the said

Dwelling House to hold

unto the said THOMAS CASEY his heirs and assigns for

the term of 21 years from

the 25th March last at the yearly rent of 10 pounds

10s sterling ..... (usual

conditions for re-entry, distress etc. in case of

non-payment of rent.)

 

[2] 13th June 1767

(Ref. 266 56 167 738)

HENRY CREAN of STREAMSTOWN, CO. SLIGO, gent., for 264

pounds 8s sterling did

bargain, sell, etc. to JOHN LLYOD of CROGHAN, CO.

ROSCOMMON, Esq., all lands

of CARROWKEEL, BARONY TIRERAGH, CO. SLIGO for

remainder of 21 year term as

demised to HENRY CREAN by JAMES MCDONAGH of KNAPPAGH,

CO. SLIGO, gent., by

indenture dated 20 June 1764.

 

 

[3] 1794

(Ref. 263 313692)

 

Memo of indented Deed of Lease between LAURENCE CREAN

of BOYLE, gent., and

JOHN CURLEY of BRICKEEN, CO. SLIGO, farmer, of all

that part of DRUMDONEY not

occupied by PAT CONNELLAN or OWEN GAFFNEY, for term of

16 years, at rent of

10s per acre per annum.

 

[4] 28th March 1795

(Ref. 232 313318)

 

Memo of an Indenture and Deed of Lease between

LAURENCE CREAN  of the Town of

BOYLE, CO. ROSCOMMON, gent., of the one part, and

MICHAEL CONLAN of

ARMAGHCARTY in CO. SLIGO, Farmer, of the other part,

of all that part of

DROMDONYBEGG now in the actual possession of the said

MICHAEL CONLAN,

containing about 30 acres, during the time, term and

space of 16 years from

1st May ensuing the date thereof in as full and ample

a manner as he holds the

same provided the [title?] of the said ROBERT CREAN in

said lands so long

subsists, yielding and paying yearly during said lease

the sum of 12s sterling

per acre for any acre therein contained on the days

and times specified in

said lease for payment of said rent to said LAURENCE

CREAN and is witnessed by

EDWARD HENRY of BOYLE, PATE HENDERSON and JOHN CONLAN

of BOYLE ..... LAURENCE

CREAN seal.Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 11:43:24 EST

 

[5] 4 December 1795

(Ref. 498 371 319251)

 

Deed of Assignment made by LAURENCE CREAN of the Town

of BOYLE, CO. ROSCOMMON,

merchant, to JOHN IRWIN of EMLAGH in the said Co.

Esq., whereby the said

LAURENCE CREAN in consideration of the sum of 70

pounds sterling to him paid

by the said JOHN IRWIN did assign and make over unto

the said JOHN IRWIN all

his, the said LAURENCE CREAN'S right, title, and

interest of in and to the

lands of ARDMOYLE with the appurtenances thereto

belonging and situate lying

and being in the BARONY of BOYLE, in the CO.

ROSCOMMON, for the residue and

remainder of a term of years yet to come and unexpired

which JOHN HELLY late

of KILLFREE in the CO. SLIGO Gent. had in the said

lands of ARDMOYLE and sold

by the SHERIFF of the CO. ROSCOMMON unto the said

LAURENCE CREAN, in which

said deed thee [there?] are other clauses and which

said deed and this memo is

witnessed by PHILIP LYNCH of CARRICK ON SHANNON

Innkeeper and by JAS. DIGNAM

of EMLAGH In CO. ROSCOMMON, servant.

LAURENCE CREAN sealed, signed and delivered in

presence of PHILIP LYNCH, JAS.

DIGNAM.  The above named PHILIP LYNCH maketh oath that

he saw the above named

LAURENCE CREAN duly execute the Deed of Assignment

etc..

 

[6] 1810

(Ref. 632 488 434400)

 

Memo of Deed of Assignment by ROBERT CRYAN  of BOYLE,

Dealer, to JNO. FREEMAN,

Brewer, of his interest in three leases, viz. lands of

KNOCKRUSH, DEERPARK,

and in the TOWN of BOYLE, for 140 pounds, which sum he

owed to FREEMAN.

[Mentions 'said MICHAEL CRYAN' .... similar to 1795

memo 'said ROBERT CREAN'.]

 

[7] 17 February 1817

(Ref. 309 489244)

 

Memo of indented Deed etc. between PAT MURRIN, farmer,

of BRIDOGUE BRIDGE, CO.

ROSCOMMON, and JANE MURRIN, his eldest daughter, of

the one part, and JOHN

CRYAN, merchant of BOYLE, in consideration of a

marriage shortly to be

solemnised between the above JOHN CRYAN and JANE

MURRIN ...... PAT MURRIN

agreed to pay JOHN CRYAN 300 pounds as a marriage

portion, but if JANE died

before the safe delivery of her first child, JOHN

CRYAN was to refund 150

pounds.

If JOHN CRYAN died before the birth of an heir, his

widow JANE was to receive

150 pounds back.

 

[8] 24th July 1833

(Ref. Vol. 14 No. 12)

 

Memo of Deed dated 24th July 1833 between JOHN CRYAN

of BOYLE CO. ROSCOMMON

Gent. of the first part, MARY ANNE CRYAN widow of

ROBERT CRYAN, late of BOYLE,

deceased, of the second part, and PETER CRYAN of BOYLE

Esq., of the third

part.  Said ROBERT CRYAN had lately died intestate

ceased of freehold estate

and personal property leaving the said JOHN CRYAN his

eldest son, the said

MARY ANNE CRYAN his widow and four infant children by

her, and the said PETER

CRYAN his youngest son by a former wife ..... a sum of

180 pounds personal

property would remain as a residue after payment of

ROBERT CRYAN'S debts,

funeral expenses etc. to be divided amongst his next

of kin.

Freehold estate consisted of two houses in the Back

Lane in the Town of BOYLE,

also a dwelling house where he resided.  Also land of

KNOCKARUSH, the DEERPARK

and LUGNAMUDDAGH in the Barony of Boyle.  Said JOHN

CRYAN for a consideration

had granted etc. to PETER CRYAN in his actual

possession being etc. all that

and those the said house in the town wherein the said

ROBERT resided, also the

said lands of LUGNAMUDDAGH and the DEERPARK except for

two acres thereof with

the house and garden attached, late in the possession

of the said ROBERT CRYAN

and one THOMAS MCKINSIE, paying thereon the head rent

of 1 pound annually and

a proportionate share of taxes.  Also the head rent of

the houses in the Back

Lane in BOYLE and the head rent and taxes fo the lands

of KNOCKARUSH which

said houses and land the said JOHN CRYAN reserved to

himself for his own use

and benefit, to hold said house in which ROBERT CRYAN

resided etc. to PETER

CRYAN his heirs etc. for remainder of term upon the

trust and uses contained

in the deed.

Witnessed by PATRICK MCDERMOTT of BOYLE, merchant.

 

[9] 30 June 1834

(Ref. Vol. 15 No. 297)

 

JAMES CRYAN a tenant of JAMES FLEMING of ABBEYVILLE,

CO. SLIGO, on land at

TRIENMACMURTAGH, Barony of COOLAVIN, CO. SLIGO.

DARBY BREHENY also a tenant.

 

 

[10]  27 April 1836

(Ref. Vol. 20 No. 218)

 

Between JOHN CRYAN of BOYLE, of the first part, and

MARY ANNE CRYAN of BOYLE

of the second, reciting that the Rt. Hon. Lord

Viscount Lorton did on the

first of October 1822 demise etc. to ROBERT CRYAN part

of the lands of

DEERPARK containing 11 acres 2 roods 30 perches

situate etc. in the parish and

Barony of BOYLE for the term of the natural life of

HENRY FRY, son to HENRY

FRY of FRYBROOK, Esq., or for 21 years, whichever was

the longer.  ROBERT

CRYAN now dead, said JOHN CRYAN as eldest son and heir

entitled to 2 acres or

thereabouts of said lands as in the possession of

MICHAEL CONLAN, PAT BRENNAN,

and MULLANEY, said JOHN CRYAN for and in consideration

of the sum of 32 pounds

did grant etc. unto said MARY ANNE CRYAN etc. the said

2 acres of DEERPARK

with all rents and profits etc..

 

[11]  1859

(Ref. Vol. 33 No. 61)

 

Marriage Settlement between JAMES REILLY of BOYLE,

shopkeeper for the first

part, MARY ANN CRYAN, widow, and MARY ANN CRYAN,

spinster, (daughter), of the

second part, and PETER CRYAN M.D., a trustee, of the

third part;

100 pounds marriage portion etc. etc.

Witnessed by Catholic priest.

 

[12]  July 1882

 

MICHAEL CRYAN to P.W. C., farmer of CARROWCRORY,

BARONY OF CORRAN, CO. SLIGO,

loan of 100 pounds for land improvement (Landed

Property Improvement Act).

 

[13]  21 May 1883

 

PATRICK CRYAN of ARDMOYLE, FRENCHPARK, CO. ROSCOMMON

Loan of 374 pounds for mortgage to purchase.

 

[14]  20 December 1884

 

MATHEW [sic] CRYAN tenant farmer of DERNASKEAGH,

BARONY OF CORRAN, CO. SLIGO,

loan of 50 pounds.

Witnesses:  REV. PATRICK SCULLY, MATTHEW KILLORAN.

Executed:  BALLYMOTE

 

- - - - - - - -

 

 

From:  "Pat Cryans" <pat@pcryans.fsnet.co.uk> | Block Address | Add to Address Book

To:       "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>

Subject:          Re: Cryan/Judge

Date:   Mon, 2 Jul 2001 19:32:56 +0100

Hi KEVIN,

It,s me again my addressis

105 CONISTON AVENUE UPMINSTER ESSEX RM14 3XL ENGLAND.

This is the first connection CRYAN JUDGE THAT I HAVE COME ACCROSS.

 

Iknow there were PATRICK JUDGE,S IN BOYLE IN THE GRIFFITHS VALUATION.

Anything you may have would be appreciated.

We must be the most senior CRYAN researchers now.

Allt the best Kevin

Patrick Cryans

 

 

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Date:   Tue, 3 Jul 2001 14:27:25 +0100 (BST)

From:  Caoimhghin O Croidheain <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> | Block Address | Add to Address Book

Subject:          crean/cryan

To:       CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Do you notice in the Deeds how the Robert Crean

becomes Robert Cryan some years later(The ones that

mention Michael Conlon)

caoimhghin

 

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Date:   Wed, 4 Jul 2001 12:31:39 +0100 (BST)

From:  Caoimhghin O Croidheain <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> | Block Address | Add to Address Book

Subject:          Valuation Lists Boyle 1858 - 1871 /Cryan

To:       CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Hi

Notes I took a while ago. Patrick Cryans

[Cryan/Breheny/Judge] and Paul Mc Vey [Dr Peter Cryan]

take note

caoimhghin

 

Valuation Lists Boyle 1858 - 1871

 

3 Books

[ - =no entry]

 

Book 3 Year 1858

Page Name    Lessor    Address  Map ref

5 Mary Cryan Johnston Bellespark  2c

16 Michael Cryan Lorton Deerpark 23 a and b

18 Michael Cryan Lorton Deerpark 39

39 Dr Peter Cryan J. Broumell Knockna shee Town of

Boyle Main St 9

57 Bartly Judge MaryAnn Cryan(lessor) Mocmoyne, Town

of Boyle The Green

68 Paul Cryan Davis Mulhall Mocmoyne Town of Boyle

Chapel Lane 60

100 Catherine Cryan Ed Cox Termon Town of Boyle Ross

Lane 9

 

Book 2 Year 1863?

5 Mary Cryan Johnston Bellespark  2

16 Michael Cryan Lorton Deerpark 23

19 Michael Cryan Lorton Deerpark 39

40 Dr Peter Cryan - Knocknashee, Town of Boyle Main St

9

71 Paul Cryan Davis Mulhall Mocmoyne, Town of Boyle

Chapel Lane 60

105 Catherine Cryan (New Lessee - Patrick Conlon 1863)

- Town of Boyle Ross Lane 9

106 Michael Cryan - Termon, Town of Boyle Ross Lane 20

 

Book 1 Year 1864?

5 Mary Cryan ( New Lessee - James Breheny 1866)

Johnston Bellespark  2

16 Michael Cryan - Deerpark 23

19 Michael Cryan - Deerpark 40

41 Dr Peter Cryan - - -

77 Michael Cryan - Mocmoyne Town of Boyle Mill Lane

(1870) 6

111 Michael Cryan Robertson Termon, Town of Boyle

Cootehall St 8

128 Mary Cryan Johnston Bellespark 2f

 

 

From:  Fatarm@aol.com | Block Address | Add to Address Book

Date:   Thu, 5 Jul 2001 00:21:50 EDT

Subject:          [Cryan et al.] Administrative message

To:       CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Congratulations to us!  We've reached 100 subscribers!  Now, nobody

move!  

Seriously, we've grown quite well considering our small clans ... next

month

we'll have been online 3 years.

 

I've recently run through the administrative panels on rootsweb for our

email

and made a few slight adjustments.  You will now see "Cryan et al." at

the

beginning of your emails for this list.  The digest edition will be

released

when it collects a smaller amount of material (less kB), but as long as

there's something to be released, it will be issued once each day.  If

any

digesters have something to input about the frequency, please email me

through the list or directly -- I will bow to pressure readily to

please the

majority (just one way in which being list administrator is like being

President).

 

I have added our taglines, those random and repeating messages to the

bottom

of our messages again.  It's nice to be periodically reminded of our

fellows'

websites and locations.  Please update me with additions, changes, etc. 

Somehow our taglines disappeared and I've resurrected these from

storage. 

Let me know if they bug you, too.

 

I am also currently trying to track our makeup:   how many Cryans v.

Creans

v. Creaghans v. Croghans.  I'll report back when I've figured out some

statistics on these rough groupings (I'm not going to breakdown within

each

surname group).

 

Finally, let me know what I can do to make this list work better,

smoother,

easier or faster for you.  I'm here to be useful, hopefully! 

 

Enjoying all the great emails lately, Leslie

 

 

Date:   Thu, 5 Jul 2001 17:16:53 +0100 (BST)

From:  Caoimhghin O Croidheain <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> | Block Address | Add to Address Book

Subject:          [Cryan et al.] Wedding Foto

To:       CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Hi

Had another piece of good luck last night when I found

my grandparents wedding foto in a 1930 Evening Herald.

I had looked in the Irish Times where there was the

usual formal announcement but it never ocurred to me

to check a popular paper until I noticed this guy next

to me looking up military fotos in the Herald. I

checked the day plus a few days after and on the

Saturday edition on the back page - where they used to

put all the fotos - there they were, him in his

captains uniform and her in 1920s style long dress

with loads of necklaces of beads!!!

 

I found an interesting case in teh Ros Herald 1896.

Damages for Seduction - John Cryan OF Culthacreighton

sued some guy fo seducings his daughter Catherine!!

 

Anyone know where this townland is?

 

Lauri and Karen are typing up articles at the moment.

I sent off for p/cs of about 30+ more. Iam not sure

when they will appear but should be soon.

I am off on holidays 7-22 July.

Caoimhghin

From:  JudyBruce@aol.com | Block Address | Add to Address Book

Date:   Thu, 5 Jul 2001 13:30:09 EDT

Subject:          Re:(Cultha) Creighton

To:       caoimhghin@yahoo.com

ireland

maybe this link will somehow determine the whereabouts of Culthacreighton.

Seems Creighton is yet another version of Cryan, Creghan et al. Maybe the

first part "cultha" means something in irish/gaelic???

 

Hope this is of some use. :)

 

Judy

From:  "Pat Cryans" <pat@pcryans.fsnet.co.uk> | Block Address | Add to Address Book

To:       "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>

Subject:          Re: Valuation Lists Boyle 1858 - 1871 /Cryan

Date:   Fri, 6 Jul 2001 19:12:39 +0100

KEVIN. THANKS AGAIN I AM AT PRESENT WAITING FOR SOME INFO FROM  THE

LAND

REGISTRY 1938/1943 REF JUDGE/BREHENY

PATRICK CRYANS

From:  Voltene@aol.com | Block Address | Add to Address Book

Date:   Fri, 6 Jul 2001 22:42:27 EDT

Subject:          [Cryan et al.] Cryans in Lowell, MA

To:       CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Hello,

 

This is for the new people on the list.

 

If anyone is researching Cryans in Lowell, MA,  I have a listing of all

"Cryans" (surname)   buried at St. Patrick's Cemetery in Lowell, MA.

 

I also have all the obituaries of these Cryans.

 

If anyone needs a lookup,  please let me know.

 

I am researching the family of  Martin and Margaret (Moloney) Cryan.

 

Karen  Murphy

born and raised in Lowell, MA, currently in Nashua, NH

 

 

From:  Fatarm@aol.com | Block Address | Add to Address Book

Date:   Sun, 8 Jul 2001 14:02:39 EDT

Subject:          Re: p.s.

To:       caoimhghin@yahoo.com

CC:     BillCroghan@aol.com

Yes, there are Croghans on the Cryan rootsweb mailing list.  Not many,

and

some may have gone.  We had a very active writer the first 6 months who

knew

a lot about the MacCroghan family, including intimate knowledge of a

family

owned island off the coast of (?) Kerry (I'm doing this from my poor

memory,

sorry to say).  I'm not certain how many are presently active or just

'listening in' on the list .... Leslie

Date:   Mon, 9 Jul 2001 07:44:41 -0700 (PDT)

From:  Colin Crehan <colin_crehan@yahoo.com> | Block Address | Add to Address Book

Subject:          [Cryan et al.] Re: Glasgow CRYANS

To:       CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

 

I have heard quite the opposite ... that the O'Creans

formed in Donegal, and a significant branch then

formed in Sligo. 

 

Regarding the Cryans, as I'm sure the list-members

will attest, most are now in Sligo and Rosscomon (of

the 96 "Cryan" families in the Primary Valuation of

1848-64, 58 were in Sligo, and 31 were in Rosscommon:

http://scripts.ireland.com/ancestor/surname/index.cfm).

 

My branch of the family (Crehan) seems to have made it

to Co Caven at some point, and is now primarily

located in Eastern Galway (49 of 64 Irish families in

the Primary Valuation of 1848-64).  Let me know what

your source was for the Sligo to Donegal movement.

 

There are Cranes in Ireland ... but it sounds as

though that was an American switch for your family (a

recent switch). 

I take it you are going to keep "Crane" ... :-)

 

I would *love* to get ahold of more information that

shows which name variations live where and when in

Ireland.  With enough information, I bet one could

trace the fragmentation of Ó Croidheáin over time.

 

 

Just in case you had not seen this: MacLysaght's

(1887-1986) history of our name:

 

In Irish Crean and Crehan are Ó Croidheáin (spelt Ó

Craidhen by the Four Masters) and Creegan or Cregan is

Ó Croidheagáin. These families formed a minor sept of

the Cineal Eoghan belonging to Donegal, with a branch

in the neighbouring county of Sligo. They are twice

mentioned by the Four Masters as wealthy merchants,

which is somewhat unusual in the Annals: in 1506 as of

Co. Donegal: in 1572 as of Sligo. The Clongowes

manuscript: "The State of Ireland in 1598" gives them

a higher status: the then head of the family was John

O'Crean of Ballynegare, and in another place in the

manuscript O'Crean of Annagh is stated to have been

one of the leading families of Co. Sligo in the

sixteenth century. According to the Annals of Loch Cé

the Bishop of Elphin in 1582 was an O'Crean, but he

was removed in 1584. Father Daniel O'Crean (d. c.

1616) of Holy Cross, Sligo, was Provincial of the

Dominican order in a period of intensive persecution.

 

The form Crehan is usual in Co. Galway; in Co. Mayo

these are called Crean, Grehan and even Graham.

Creegan alone of these variants can be said to belong

now to Co. Sligo. Crean is mostly found to-day in

south-west Munster, but families of the name in Kerry

and Cork are in most cases Creen, recte Curreen, i.e.

Ó Corraidhín. A further complication in regard to the

name Crean arises from the fact that Ó Corráin,

normally Curran in English, has become Crean in some

places. The arms illustrated in Plate VI are those of

O'Crean of Donegal and Sligo and do not belong to the

Creans of Munster.

 

Regards,

 - Colin

 

--- William & Anita Crane <wcrane2@san.rr.com> wrote:

> Very good clarification on the Eugene-Owen

> relationship (probably none or

> just a local nickname for a certain person).

>

> My father was born "O'Crean" - baptismal certificate

> in Philadelphia,  PA,

> of Irish immigrant parents (Donegal) in 1903.

> O'Crean was further

> anglicized to Crane and to my knowledge all the

> American descendents of this

> family use "Crane."

>

> However, I have seen other information showing that

> the sept Crean started

> in Sligo, then moved later to Donegal.  Anything

> further on this???

>

> Best Regards,

>

> Bill Crane

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: "Colin Crehan" <colin_crehan@yahoo.com>

> To: <CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com>

> Sent: Monday, July 02, 2001 8:33 AM

> Subject: RE: Glasgow CRYANS

>

>

> >

> > Owen is an anglicization of Eoghan ... as in

> Eoghan,

> > King of  Ailech and son of Niall of the Nine

> Hostages

> > (O'Neil).  Eoghan died around 465 AD.  Ailech was

> > renamed County Tyrone, whose name stems from "Tir

> > Eoghain" (Tribe of Owen).

> >

> > I have never heard the Eugene-Owen connection ...

> and

> > I believe Eugene is a Greek name.  That's not to

> say

> > that there is not a Greek connection ... but there

> is

> > an ancient Irish connection to "Owen".

> >

> > BTW, the O'Creans are a branch of the ancient

> Crean

> > sept of the Cenel Eoghain in Donegal.  The Cenel

> > Eoghain is the collective name for all of the

> septs

> > descended from Eoghan.

> >

> > Regards,

> >  - Colin

> >

> >

> > --- Harvey.Wohlwend@SEMATECH.Org wrote:

> > > More about the name OWEN.

> > >

> > > On a trip to Ireland earlier this month I

> learned

> > > that Owen is a "nickname" for

> > > Eugene.

> > >

> > > Best wishes.

> > > Harvey Wohlwend

> > > Ggrandson of Danial Cryan

> > >

> > > -----Original Message-----

> > > From: FamSpack [mailto: ]

> > > Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2001 7:00 PM

> > > To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

> > > Subject: Glasgow CRYANS

> > >

> > >

> > > This is part of what I sent to Pat Cryans in

> reply

> > > to a request. It may be

> > > of interest to Dave Oram....Hi and welcome to

> the

> > > list Dave.

> > >

> > > These are 3 brothers, I think,  and they appear

> in

> > > various records with

> > > surnames of different

> > > spellings...CRYAN,CREAN,CREIGHAN,CRIAN  etc

> > >

> > > I have not found an Owen CRYAN but there are

> several

> > > Patrick CRYAN

> > > candidates.However I have found an Owen CRYANS -

> but

> > > you may have these

> > > ******************

> > > 1881 census of GB

> > > Owen CRYANS 181 South Wellington St, Govan

> > > ,Lanarkshire - Foundry Labourer -

> > > age 40 born Ireland

> > > Anne CRYANs - wife - 30 - born Bathgate

> Linlithgow

> > >   *** Patrick son - aged 5 - born Glasgow

> ***(see

> > > below)

> > > William son - aged 3 - born Glasgow

> > > Mary Anne daughter - aged 1 - born Glasgow

> > > *********************

> > > 1881 census of GB

> > > John CRYANS 227 South Wellington St, Govan,

> > > Lanarkshire - Labourer - aged

> > > 44 - born Sligo, Ireland

> > > Mary CRYANS - wife - aged 30 - born Glasgow

> > > Hannah daughter - aged 11 born Glasgow

> > > Mary daughter - aged 7 - born glasgow

> > > John son - aged 2 - born Glasgow

> > > Patrick son - aged 1mth - born Glasgow

> > > also in the same house

> > > Patrick CRYANS - visitor - labourer - aged 40 -

> born

> > > Sligo Ireland

> > > Ann CRYANS - wife - aged 28 - born Sligo Ireland

> > > Mary daughter - aged 9 - born Sligo Ireland

> > > Bridget - daughter - aged 7 - born Sligo Ireland

> > > Patrick - son - aged 3 born Sligo Ireland

> > > Annie - son ?? - aged 1 born Sligo Ireland

> (could

> > > the name be

> > > mistranscribed or "son" be just a mistake)

> > > ********************

> > > OBSERVATIONS

> > >

> > > Owen and Patrick  - the same age twins or

> cousins or

> > > just born close

> > > together

> > > Is John the same family ?

> > > It looks as though Patrick went back to Ireland

> and

> > > married in 1871 and has

> > > returnd shortly before the census

> > > Could the names of Owen and Patrick's parents be

> > > Mary and Patrick as borth

> > > have these as the names of the first son and

> first

> > > daughter ?

> > >

> > > I believe Patrick, son of Owen CRYANS and

> > > Anne(above) ,married Mary Welsh

> > > Owen CRYANS died 24 November 1888.

> > >

> > > Pat Cryans will give a fuller explanation.

> > > Good Luck.....!

> > > Eve

> >

 

From:  Fatarm@aol.com | Block Address | Add to Address Book

Date:   Mon, 9 Jul 2001 22:29:15 EDT

Subject:          [Cryan et al.] Crean message (forwarded)

To:       CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Subj:    {not a subscriber} cryan

Date:   7/8/01 8:14:54 PM Eastern Daylight Time

From:   bethars@hotmail.com (Beth Arseneau)

To: cryan-l@rootsweb.com

 

Hello, FYO there is a catholic priest at Annascaul co. Kerry Ire. named

Fr.

Crean.  I have no idea if this is helpful to you or not but it is worth

a

try.  Good luck

 

Date:   Wed, 11 Jul 2001 08:42:37 EDT

From:  BillCroghan@aol.com | Block Address | Add to Address Book

Subject:          Re: p.s.

To:       <Fatarm@aol.com>

CC:     <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>

Thank you! for the feedback. 

Being relatively new to ancestoral/genealogical research, I find

available information can be exciting and a little exasperating.  For

example, research books in the Library of Congress, in Washington, D.C., gives

the origin of the Croghan clan as County Kerry, Ireland - specifically,

a location named the Castle of Letter...

However, Internet sites indicate the origin of "Croghan"  as Roscommon! 

H-E-L-P  :-)

                               Bill

 

From:  "John Sheerin" <jsheerin@erols.com> | Block Address | Add to Address Book

Date:   Wed, 11 Jul 2001 09:39:19 -0400

Subject:          [Cryan et al.] Mary Cryan Information

To:       CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Pat:

Re your message below.

Here's all the Mary/Maria Cryans I have.

 

From: Pat Cryans

To: John Sheerin

Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2001 6:40 AM

Subject: Re: More Cryan Information

 

HI JOHN. WOULD YOU BEABLE TO SEND ME COPIES OF THE VARIOUS

MARY CRYAN,S BIRTH,S

REGARDS PATRICK CRYANS 

 

Here's a copy from my file, let me know if it was helpful!!!

Take care and stay in touch,

Jake

 

Abbreviation Codes:  

BAP    = Baptized Date 

E1887  = Estimated date to be 1887, around 5 years either direction  

Hub.   = husband  

RC     = Roman Catholic Church, followed by its city/town  

(name) = maiden name, i.e., Maria (Carrel) Cryan = (Carrel) is Maiden

name

 

NAME                YEAR BORN, WHERE

 

Maria (Carrel) Cryan, E1810, Boyle?,  Hub Michael Cryan, E1810, Boyle?,

 

Maria (Murry) Cryan, E1816, Killucan?, Co. Roscommon, Hub Peter Cryan,

E1814, Killucan?, Co. Roscommon

 

Maria (Martin) Cryan, E1821, Boyle?, Co. Roscommon, Hub Patrick Cryan,

E1819, Boyle?, Co. RoscommonMary Cryan, E1822, lived in Co. Roscommon

with Hub. Patrick Mullaney?

 

Maria Cryan, Bap. 15 JUL 1828, RC Boyle, Co. Roscommon, Dad John Cryan,

E1808, Boyle?, Co. Roscommon

 

Mary (COYNE) Cryan, E1828, Cootehall area?, Co. Roscommon, Ireland,

Hub. Patrick Cryan, E1826, Coothall?, Married 31 AUG 1848 in Cootehall

area

 

Maria Cryan, Bap. 18 APR 1830, RC Boyle, Co. Roscommon, Dad Michael

Cryan, E1810, Boyle?, Co. Roscommon

 

Maria Cryan, Bap. 19 JUL 1830, RC Boyle, Dad Michael Cryan, E1810,

Boyle?,Mom Maria Carrel, E1810, Boyle?

 

Maria Cryan, Bap. 10 SEP 1830, RC Boyle,  Dad Michael Cryan E1810,

Boyle?Mom Catherine Beirne, E1810?, Boyle? 

 

Maria Cryan, Born 1829/30, widow of the late Michael Cryan, resided 161

Pleasant St. Lowell, MA, Died 31 JUL 1902, age 72. She was survived by

two sons, Edward, a well known newsdealer on Dutton Street; and Thomas,

painter; and one daughter, Mary A.

           BELIEVE these two are the same!!!

Mary(Durr) Cryan, E1831, Boyle??? Hub. Michael Cryan, E1831,

Boyle???Maria Cryan, Bap. ?? MAR 1831, RC Boyle, Co. Roscommon, Dad Michael

Cryan, E1811, Boyle?, Mom Catherine Berne, E1811, Boyle?

 

Maria Cryan, Bap. 11 MAY 1833, RC Boyle, Co. Roscommon, Dad John Cryan,

E1813, Boyle?, Co. Roscommon

 

Maria Cryan, Bap. 23 OCT 1836, RC Killucan, Co. Roscommon, Dad Peter

Cryan, E1814, Killucan?, Co. Roscommon

 

Maria Cryan, Bap. 05 NOV 1837, RC Killucan, Co. Roscommon, Dad Michael

Cryan, E1815, Killucan?, Co. Roscommon

 

Maria Cryan, Bap. 02 SEP 1839, RC Boyle, Co. Roscommon. Dad John Cryan,

E1819, Boyle?, Co. Roscommon

 

Maria Cryan, Bap. 25 OCT 1841, RC Boyle, Co. Roscommon, Dad Patrick

Cryan, E1819, Boyle?, Co. Roscommon

 

Mary Cryan/Cryne, Bap. 26 March 1843, RC Boyle, Co. Roscommon, Dad

Michael Cryan, E1820, Boyle?

 

Mary Cryan (Farrell), E1844, Rusheen?, Ireland, Hub Edward Farrell,

E1844, Behy?, Ireland, Married 08 FEB 1864, where? in Ireland

 

 

Maria Cryan, Bap. 24 MAR 1846, RC Killucan, Co. Roscommon, Dad Patrick

Cryan, E1824, Killucan?, Co. Roscommon

                       Are these two the same family????

Maria Cryan, Bap. 22 JUN 1846, RC Killucan, Co. Roscommon,Dad Patrick

Cryan, E1824, Killucan?, Co. Roscommon

 

 

Mary(Foley) Cryan, E1848, Boyle area, Hub. James Cryan, E1845,

Temeleany Boyle

 

Mary Cryan/(Brennan), E1850, Boyle Area, Dad Michael Cryan, E1828,

Boyle area Hub. James Brennan, E1850, Boyle area

            Believe these two are the same

Mary Anne Cryan, Bap. 30 OCT 1853, RC Boyle, Dad Michael Cryan, E1831,

Boyle?

 

 

Mary Cryan, Died 1889, Lowell MA

 

Mary E. Cryan, Died 1894, Lowell MA

 

 

 

 

Date:   Fri, 13 Jul 2001 13:21:27 -0700 (PDT)

From:  Colin Crehan <colin_crehan@yahoo.com> | Block Address | Add to Address Book

Subject:          Re: [Cryan et al.] "Calling All CROGHAN's"

To:       CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

 

From MacLysaght:

 

Mac Crohan

(Mac Criomhthainn - a word for a fox)

The name is a branch of the O'Sullivans associated

with the Dingle penninsula and the Blasket islands.

The use of the O prefix with this name is erroneous.

(Kerry)

For Croghan and Croughan see Crowne

 

(Mac) Crowne, Croan

(Mac Conchruachain: hound of Croghan)

A Co. Rosscommon name formerly anglicized MacCroghan.

 

I hope that helps ...

 

Regards,

 - Colin

 

--- BillCroghan@aol.com wrote:

> This message is a plea for anyone having knowledge

> of the origin of the CROGHAN surname to p-l-e-a-s-e

> come forward and share your insight with me/us.

>

> THANK YOU!

>             Bill

>

 

 

Reply-to:        "FamSpack" < >

From:  "FamSpack" < > | Block Address | Add to Address Book

Date:   Fri, 20 Jul 2001 08:59:20 +0100

Subject:          [Cryan et al.] 1901 census

To:       CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

To all super Cryans(and variants)

 

South Sligo is gradually being added to the database on the 1901 census

at

http://www.leitrim-roscommon.com  ,

 

Broher ,Carrowcrory etc were the first to be added if anyone is

interested.

There are about 30 households in each townland . Every household in a

townland can be veiwed together if just the townland name is entered in

the

search request. However if you just want the Cryans.(all were spelled

CRYAN)

or Henrys( some HENERY) or Duffys or Lavins just enter that.  BUT do

not

forget to do the extra search by clearing everything and just putting

the

surname in the "others in household" field. You may get some surprises

for I

know that there are some step-children etc.around .

 

I have transcribed most of Toomour and Drumrat civil parishes and parts

of

Kilfree and Killaraght, Emlaghfad ,Aghanagh, Kilshalvey Kilcolman etc.

I aim

eventually, for it takes a long time ,to do all the Boyle registration

district -(if you look through the Ire Atlas townland database

accessible

through the Leitrim and Roscommon website), that this is more or less

equvalent to the Boyle PLU. Some parishes are only partly included eg

only

one townland for Drumcolumb is in the Boyle district the rest of the

parish

townlands come under Sligo PLU.

 

To date there are now 65 CRYAN families shown. There are some more to

come..

 

 

Happy searching Eve

 

 

 

From:  Sean.Crean@sba.gov | Block Address | Add to Address Book

To:       caoimhghin@yahoo.com

Subject:          Abbey photo - Andrew & Eleanor

Date:   Fri, 20 Jul 2001 08:48:53 -0400

This monument was erected within the Family Tomb (altar) in 1616 for Andrew O'Crean and his wife Eleanor French.

While quite deteriorated, you can still identify the following. On top of the shield is the family crest Demi-wolf with heart in paws.  Also the two chalices (one on either side of the shield) have the initials   AC on the left, and EC on the right.  You cannot read the date from the photo, but below the shield it says 1616.  Finally, if you study it VERY CAREFULLY, you can make out on the shield, the two shields of the O'Crean and French families.  The French shield is the lower right under the /\.  On the upper left you can make out the top two hearts of O'Crean. After you see these, you can identify the bottom heart.

Seán

Seán F. O'Crean

Office of Government Contracting

Northern New England

207-622-8379 ext 379

207-622-8277 fax

email: sean.crean@sba.gov

 

 

 

Date:

         Tue, 24 Jul 2001 17:17:37 +0100 (BST)

   From:

         Caoimhghin O Croidheain <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> | Block Address | Add

         to Address Book

 Subject:

         [Cryan et al.]  Sligo Cryans from Ros /Leit site

     To:

         CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

 

 

 

 

 

 Sligo Cryans from Ros /Leit site

(no creans or crehans even though crean is a sligo

name)

order of appearance:

Townland         

Parish   

Barony   

County   

Description     Head of household

Surname Head of household

Given   Head of household

Occupation      Other occupants

 

Tully   Toomour Corran  Sligo   Household       Cryan   Michael(19)

farmer/not married      Jane(22) sister/not

married-Elizabeth(17) sister-Daniel(15)

brother/scholar-Joseph(12) brother/scholar

 

Broher/Brougher Toomour Corran  Sligo   Household       Cryan

Michael(43)     Farmer/married  Kate(44) wife-MaryAnne(7)

dtr./scholar

 

Broher/Brougher Toomour Corran  Sligo   Household       Cryan

Patrick(65)     farm labourer/widower   Mary(12)

dtr./scholar

 

Broher/Brougher Toomour Corran  Sligo   Household       Cryan

James(84)       Farmer/married  Agatha(67) wife-Andrew(36)

son/unmarried

 

Broher/Brougher Toomour Corran  Sligo   Household       Cryan

John(24)        Farmer/unmarried        Bridget(21)

unmarried/sister/farmer

 

Carrowcrory     Toomour Corran  Sligo   Household       Cryan

Bridget(70)     Farmer/widow    Mathew(39)

son/unmarried/farmer-Mary(30) dtr./unmarried/farmer

 

Carrowcrory     Toomour Corran  Sligo   Household       Cryan

John(45)        Farmer/married  Annie(45) wife

 

Carrowcrory     Toomour Corran  Sligo   Household       Cryan

Michael(80)     Farmer/married  Catherine(70) wife-John(45)

son/unmarried/farmer-Winifred(27)

dtr./unmarried/farmer

 

Carrowcrory     Toomour Corran  Sligo   Household       Cryan

Patrick(70)     Farm Labourer   unmarried

 

Carrowcrory     Toomour Corran  Sligo   Household       Cryan

Mary(85)        Housekeeper/widow       John(62)

son/married/farmer- Bridget(56) dtr. in

law/housekeeper-Pat(21) gs/farm labourer-Mary(16) gd

housekeeper

 

Carrowcrory     Toomour Corran  Sligo   Household       Cryan

Mary(65)        Farmer/widow    Michael(28) son/unmarried/farmer

 

Derrygolagh     Toomour Corran  Sligo   Household       Cryan

Patrick(63)     Farmer/married  Mary(53) wife-Bridget(22)

dtr./not married-Patrick(19) son/not

married-Thomas(17) son/not married

 

Derrygolagh     Toomour Corran  Sligo   Household       Cryan

Secilia/Cecilia(69)     Farmer/widow    Bridget(42)

dtr.-Norah(26) dtr.-both not married

 

Derrygolagh     Toomour Corran  Sligo   Household       Cryan

Martin(85)      Weaver  widower

 

Derrygolagh     Toomour Corran  Sligo   Household       Cryan

Patrick(75)     Farmer/widower  John(35)

son/married-Ellener(25) dtr. in law -James(30) son/not

married

 

Derrygolagh     Toomour Corran  Sligo   Household       Cryan

Mathew(70)      Farmer/married  Catherine(60)

wife-Mathew(30) son/not married-Kate(26) dtr./not

married/seamstress

 

Derrygolagh     Toomour Corran  Sligo   Household       Cryan

Patrick(66)     Farmer/married  Anne(55) wife-John(27)

son/not married-James(23) son/not married-Rodger(20)

son/not married-Jane(14) d tr./scholar-Anne(12)

dtr./scholar

 

Tully   Toomour Corran  Sligo   Household       Cryan   Michael(44)

Farmer/married  Margaret(30) wife-MaryE(5)

dtr.-Margaret(3) dtr.-Dan(2) son-Beesy(40) sister/not

married/farmer

 

Broher/Brougher Toomour Corran  Sligo   Household       Cryan

Margaret(74)    Farmer/widow    James(31)

son/unmarried/farmer-Michael(30)

son/unmarried/shoemaker-Anne(28) dtr./unmarried/farmer

 

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   Date:

         Tue, 24 Jul 2001 13:33:10 EDT

 Subject:

         Re: [Cryan et al.]  Sligo Cryans fr om Ros /Leit site

     To:

         caoimhghin@yahoo.com

William Crane /Crain/Crehan or whatever he was in Ireland is the person we

search for. His wife was an Baptist, Lucie/Lavina/Lucinda .  Don't know

anything about her other than their children when baptized all in 1839 , one

in 1840  and this recorded no doubt by  a missionary . She is written as

Baptist.  This is on St. Bruno's Catholic Church records in Van Buren . No

doubt these records are in St. John's diocesan records in New Brunswick also  

Some may be in Diocese of Maine as on the film there are many

Franco-Americans listed, this border between Maine and N.B. was settled

eventually.

1851 Census of Carleton County , New Brunswick, Canada from 1819 when William

emigrated, said he was Irish and 54 at the time. This family moved to River

de Chute, Easton , Maine . His son  and many of this family are buried in the

Clearview Cath. Cemetery  in  New Brunswick across the border from Maine.

Son John Crain written by a priest on one occasion at least as Crehan , md

Ellen Phillips the parents of Mary Ann Crain who md a Yankee in New Brunswick

, but lived later in Mars Hill , Maine. This Yankee was Melvin Henry Williams

 

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          "FamSpack" < >

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      To:

          "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>

  Subject:

          Re: 1901 census on R/L site

     Date:

          Wed, 25 Jul 2001 10:22:44 +0100

Hi Caoimhghin,The missing townlands are not only missing from the LDS filmed records

but"unavailable" in Ireland. There are a couple of people,I believe, who

aretrying to trace what has happened to them in Ireland. However I have

notheard how they are getting on. If they are not very persistant and

tenaciousor just not very experienced(I just do not know and I could be very

wrong)they may find it difficult.

I personally believe that some of the missing records are "nil" 

townlands,particularly if they straddle two or more parishes and do have entries

inthe other parishes.

There are some that just did not make it to the place they were all

collected together and may still reside in the local archives

somewhere. Thelocal police were the enumerators so they could be in a police station

or alocal library.Some may just have not been filmed. Thank God that the rest were or we

,outside Ireland, would not have been able to transcribe the census in

thefirst place.I guess that you are looking for Estersnow in particular.

I wonder whether you could ask in Rocommon Library, next time that you

go,whether they are likely to have copies in their dusty boxes or on their

shelves or if not,where can one start looking. They may have some ideas

tostart the paper-chase.Eve

 

Original Message -----

From: "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>

To: "eve" < >

Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 5:06 PM

Subject: 1901 census on R/L site

Hi Eve

On the R/L site it says the following townlands are

not available  as they are missing from the Mormon

index . Are only the mormon records being used for the

1901 census transcription?

caoimhghin

CIVIL PARISH - TOWNLAND

Termonbarry - Ballymagrine, Cloonaufill, Cloonfad,

Cloonfower, Cloonshannagh, Cuilbeg,

Derrymoylin, Derryonogh, Glebe,

Kilbarry, Meelick

 

Estersnow - Ballonvoher, Camlin, Carkfree

Carrowkeel, Carrownagappul

Cornaveagh, Finisclin, Granny

 

Kilmacumsy - Ardcolagh

Kilronan - Carrickadraan

Kilnamanagh - Tullaghan

 

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Hi Caoimhghin again,

I wonder did you ever look in the Irish Archives for the records of

John

Cryan b 1820, tried in Sligo 1848 ,convicted of theft to 7 years

transportaion on the ship the London in 1848

and the second entry which may be for the same person but no age is

given ?They are the only two entries for CRYAN on the searchable Irish Archive

sitefor Transportation records which gives the document references as

John Cryan ....trial date 20/06/1848  as.......TR 8, P 142

John Cryan....trial date 20/06/1849(document date 24/03/1850)

as.....CRF1850misc2 (2)

I think that possibly these two are the same person and 1849 being a

mistranscription. The second being a reassement after 2 years in

Kilmainham

and him not having gone to OZ in 1848...we shal see.

There are also a number of Creans.

 I have not visited the Irish Archives site for a long time and find

that ithas been considerabley updated with lots of interesting tit bits like a

listof school roll books ,info on the 1789 rebellion, and what and where

things are.must goeve

 

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Politics in Carrick

29 November 1890

On Wednesday night last a meeting was held in the

League room, Carrick-on-Shannon for the purpose of

re-organizing the defunct Branch of the League. Mr

George McCann presided. There were also present-Messrs

John Fox, P. L. G., Timothy Murray, John Guckian, R.

J. Cryan, James Kelly, Denis Cassidy, Thomas Mulheran,

John Watters, J. Carter, M. Hunt, Owen Brennan, James

Noone. Mr Cryan read the following:

 

“43 O’Connell Street Upper

Dublin, 17th Nov., 1890.

 

“Dear Sir–I beg to acknowledge the receipt of your

letter, the spirit of which does you infinite credit.

I would suggest that a half dozen of the people would

wait on the priests of the parish and ask them to

co-operate in re-organizing the Branch of the League.

A meeting should then be called for the purpose of

enrolling members. As soon as the parish is

sufficiently organized notice should be given that an

election of officers and committee would take place in

which no person could take part without having

qualified by the payment of his subscription in

accordance with the rules, copies of which I enclose

herewith. As soon as I hear that a provisional

committee is formed, and a secretary pro tem

appoinsary.  In conclusion let me point out that it

ted (?) ...I shall forward whatever number of cards of

membership is thought necessary …is most essential

that the priests of the parish should co-operate in

the formation of the Branch as it is a guarantee to

the Organizing Committee that the business of the

Branch will be conducted in a proper and efficient

manner.- Yours faithfully, D. J. Hishon.”

 

Mr Cryan complained of the shopkeepers of Carrick

absenting themselves after being summoned to attend

here to-night. Things were getting too bad now-a-days

when those shopkeepers refused to join in the National

ranks, and refused to give their co-operation in

forwarding the National movement. They were too

aristocratic to be seen in the company with tradesmen,

but such flunkeyism should not be tolerated. He hoped

his action in the matter met with their approval.

 

        Mr Murray said that their presence to-night showed

that the League, though dormant for a time, was not as

Balfour said, “a thing of the past.” He regretted that

there was not a fuller attendance of townspeople

present. The country responded nobly to the call of

duty, and he predicted that their meeting to-night

augured well for the success of the branch.

 

        Mr Kelly–I endorse every word that has been said, and

I hold that it behoves every man worthy of the name of

an Irishman to stand by his country in this crisis.

 

Mr Murray–It is for a common object we are assembled

here to-night, and every man in town should put his

shoulder to the wheel.

 

        Messrs Kelly, Watters, Fox, Cryan and Cassidy were

appointed as delegates to wait on the townspeople

Tuesday to enrol themselves in the League.

 

        Mr Watters asked to be excused, as he collected for

the Tenants’ Defence funds last year.

 

        Mr Cassidy–There will be no flunkyism here. Let no

one be afraid of the police, or have any cowardice

about them.

 

        Mr Kelly–This is not the time for cowardice. We can

snap our fingers at the police.

 

        Delegates were also appointed for the country

districts.

 

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18 August 1889

Boyle Petty Sessions.

 

A Row about “Poteen.”

 

        The police charged Joseph Connolly and Batty Cryan of

Breedogue, with fighting on the public street on the

fair day. The defendants had cross-cases against each

other. Mr McDermott appeared for Connolly and Mr

McMorrow for Cryan.

 

        Cryan was sworn and said – I was in Mr Leyland’s in a

little room off the shop. I went to the right, and

Connolly came in, and sat on the left at another

table. “Well,” he says, “you thief and you robber, are

you going to pay me for the “poteen” whiskey you stole

from me?” I never stole any “poteen” from him. He said

he would take my life if I would not pay him for the

“poteen” whiskey. He had a dreadful weapon of a stick

in his hand. I struck him a nice little blow of a

stick just to keep him quiet (laughter). Mr John

Leyland ordered him out, and told him he was always a

great annoyance in the shop. I went out, and told

three policemen he was after me. They said that they

were not on duty, but would tell me where there was a

policeman on duty. I went down to Mr Phillip’s, and

came back before the policeman. Connolly struck me on

the arm with a stick. I had a little ashplant, and

only I defended myself he would take my life.

 

        To Mr McDermott–I was sober; I admit I struck the

first blow in the room.

 

        A boy named John Beirne deposed that he saw Joe

Connolly hit Batty Cryan a “skelp” of a stick. He saw

Cryan defend himself.

 

        Joe Connolly was examined and said he had some drink

taken that day. After some little arguments in

Leyland’s, Cryan struck him, and he came back and made

a second attempt to strike him.

 

        To Mr McMorrow–I had a grudge against Cryan; I don’t

like him to tell you honestly (laughter).

 

        Mr McMorrow–Is that because he appropriated your

“poteen”?

 

        Mr Webb–He is not bound to answer (laughter).

 

        Pat Gara was examined, and admitted that Connolly

began the argument and Cryan struck first.

 

        Mr Webb said in consideration of the provocation,

they dismissed both cases.

 

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7 April 1888

Keash Branch (Co. Sligo)

–At the meeting held on Sunday last, Mr Luke Hannon,

V. P., occupied the chair. He said they all had reason

to lament the sudden death of Andrew Cryan, the

youngest member of their committee, who was snatched

away so suddenly. Few amongst them had done more than

he to serve the National cause. He joined the band at

the age of sixteen years, and soon became the leading

player. He was always ready at the shortest notice

wherever the services of the band were required. He

thought they could all congratulate themselves on the

orderly way the funeral arrangements were carried out.

It was a respectable sight to see. 100 of his brother

Nationalists, all young men, wearing white and green

scarves, marching in processional order, paying him

their last tribute of respect by convoying his remains

to their last resting place in Templevanny. The

following resolution was passed by the committee: –

‘That we avail ourselves of this our earliest

opportunity in expressing our sincere regret for the

death of Andrew Cryan, one of our respected committee,

that we tender to his sorrowing father, brothers and

sisters our deep sympathy in their grief and trouble.’

 

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Caoimhghin

 

3 March 1888

The Morals of Boyle Workhouse – The Sworn Inquiry

 

On Monday last Capt, Sampson, Local Government Board

Inspector, held a sworn inquiry in the boardroom of

Boyle workhouse regarding the scandal connected with

the birth of an illegitimate child by a woman named

Anne Cryan, who has been an inmate for eleven years,

and who alleged that the schoolmaster was the father.

Dr. Stafford, J. P., Rev. C. O’Malley, P. P….and the

following guardians, Messers P. Mullany, J. Lindsay of

Candon and J. Mulrooney were present during the

proceedings.

 

        Annie Cryan was sworn and said–I have been an inmate

of Boyle workhouse for 11 years outside the 3rd April

next, I have not been out of the house on any occasion

for the last six years; I was confined of a child on

the 1st February.; the father is Mr Conway, the

schoolmaster; it occurred in May last; I am not

certain about the time; it was about the first week.

It occurred in the schoolroom in the afternoon about

between 6 and 7 o’clock. It occurred twice but not on

the same day.

 

        When was the first occasion? – In May; I could not

give the date; there was about a week between. The

second occurrence took place in the evening about the

same hour.

 

        How did you get to the schoolroom? – He asked me up.

I was in the hall after giving out the milk for the

suppers. I was in the hall. He asked me would I go up

to the schoolroom, that he wanted me. I went up. I did

not know at that time the purpose he wanted me for. He

said nothing but took a hold of me. I made no

resistance. I came out to the infirm ward for old

women that I belong to. I never told anyone until the

baby was born.

 

        How did you get across from the infirm ward to the

schoolroom? – Down the hall and out the halldoor. I

got from the hall to the infirm ward, as the door was

open. I did not see any person in the hall when I

passed through. I used to measure out the milk for the

suppers for the house. I got the milk in the store,

which was open. This young gentleman (Mr Conway) was

in charge of the store giving out the milk. I could no

say where the Master was. If the Master is doing

business in any other place, the schoolmaster takes

the keys and takes charge of the store. He was in

charge on these two nights. I never went to the

hospital or to the body of the house with the milk; a

little girl takes up the milk to the Master’s room.

The doors from the infirm ward to the hall are locked

during the day, but open at supper time. These things

occurred after supper.

 

        How did you find the doors open when you came back? –

Prayers were going on in the chapel. I did not attend

them on those occasions. I never found the doors open

at any other time, when I wanted to pass in and out of

the hall. After the child was born, I told the Matron

and Mrs French whose the child was. I had two other

children.

 

        Where were the boys out of the schoolroom on these

nights? – They were at prayers.

 

        Cross-examined by Mr MacDormot – I am the mother of

two illegitimate children; a man named Davy near

Ballymote was father of both of them. The eldest of

children is 14 years, and is a servant to the Master;

I never help her. I was five years a nurse in the

hospital. I broke my foot it and the Medical officer

did not put me out for being drunk. I’m sure the

Master was in the house the night these things

happened. He might be over here looking at his books.

The schoolmaster never had much conversation with me.

I told him before Christmas at the turfhouse I was so.

He laughed it off in little laugh and he said he would

see me again. He never saw me again and he knows

himself that is the truth. He need not be bringing

anyone in the house into it but himself. The Master

was sick last June. I went up to the Master’s room for

an order for the milk; but if I did his daughter was

there. The Master was in bed, but was not I handed him

the bill, but his daughter. It was Mr Conway sent me

up with the order because it was I knew best, the milk

I gave out. You need not be bringing the Master into

it at all.

 

        Capt. Sampson (sharply) – Just answer the questions

now.   

 

        Cross-examination resumed – It is about five years

ago since the Matron reported my having got drink in

the Porter’s room. I did not go into prayers on these

nights because I was not good enough to go there.

 

        Why did you not go that night? – Because he had me

“drawn.” I did not take any supper in the hall as I

was in the ward small. He spoke to me when I was

giving out the milk before the ward supper; he told me

he wanted me. I did not tell Honor McLaughlin I was

bribed to xxx it on him. I do not care what she swears

or what he swears he is the father of it. I told the

Matron it occurred in the women’s yard. I did not want

to be telling them everything.

 

        Capt. Sampson – Why did you tell them it occurred in

the women’s yard? – I did not like to tell them

anything until it came to the point here.

 

        Mr MacDermot – When she was making herself up for

this inquiry, she knew she could not give a more

private place than the schoolroom.

 

        Capt. Sampson – I want to see can she give any

intelligible reason why she invented the yard, and

then changed it to the schoolroom. It appears to me

she cannot.

 

The witness further stated – The prayers were not

finished when I came back from the schoolroom. The

doors are locked the minute prayers are over. I swear

no extra supplies were sent to me to the hospital

since the child was born.

 

        Mr MacDermot said he would not examine Mr Conway

until he saw she had corroborative evidence.

 

Capt. Sampson – The question of the paternity of the

child is not of so much of importance as the question

of how this irregularity occurred.

 

Mr Mullany as a guardian asked if this was noticed by

anyone or by the officers of the house.

 

        Capt. Sampson – We have not got to the officers of

the house yet.

 

        Mr MacDermot – If this women can get no

corroboration, I venture to say you would not believe

her alone.

 

        Capt. Sampson – That is as regards the paternity of

the child; but the actual fact remains the child was

born in the house. Better get the schoolmaster now,

and let him make his statement.

 

        Mr Edward Conway was then sworn.

 

        Cryan – You are taking that oath wrongfully.

 

        Mr Conway – It is entirely false I had communication

with her.

 

        Cryan – Certainly.

 

        Capt. Sampson – Don’t interrupt. You were not

interrupted.

 

        Mr Conway – I often had to speak to her and give her

directions. I never made any appointment with her in

the milk-store, or any place else. The first time I

heard of any imputation of this sort was the morning

the child was born; I was away at a wedding and came

back that morning. I never spoke to her about the

turfhouse about this.

 

        Cryan – Certainly you did.

 

        Capt. Sampson – You must hold your tongue or I will

put you out of the room.

 

Mr Conway – I always read the prayers when the Master

is out or I have to take out the milk or give out the

suppers for the house. If I had a friend in my room, I

would ask Miss Sheorin to read the prayers. That

seldom occurs. I was absent at home on the 8th May.

The Master was absent two or three nights at the end

of May, and I read the prayers. When the Mater is

absent, after having given out the milk, I give out

the oil, and take the keys of the front house, and

lock them in the porter’s desk. Then I go to the

Master's office, and enter up the hospital books for

the day.

 

        Capt. Sampson – How is it you enter up the Master’s

books?

 

        Mr Conway – I would do it to oblige him. There is no

return kept of the days I would do the Master’s duty.

I never go into the schoolroom after supper. There are

always people moving about the hall. She could

possibly go far without being remarked.

 

        Capt. Sampson – Have you any way of showing where you

were on these particular nights in May?

 

        Witness – Three or four women in the house attended

the rosary every night. I attended very regularly in

times of special devotion. They won’t be able to prove

to particular dates. I had a conversation in the

presence of the Porter with the Master since this

child was born. He suggested to me it was better for

me to go and throw this woman a £1 and get out of it.

I said she would never get any money from me.

 

        Capt. Sampson – Is that material?

 

        Mr MacDermot – I think it is.

 

        In reply to the Inspector, Dr Stafford said the first

week in May would be correct.

 

        Miss Cunningham, the matron was sworn and said – The

morning the child was born I asked when did it occur

and she said in June in the women’s yard. I said I did

not believe it could have occurred there, as there

were so many people about. I said it did occur there

after prayers and that it was the schoolmaster. I was

speaking to Mrs French, and she said it could not have

been June. This women then said it might have been May

or June, and was not sure – that she was not well up

in dates. I used to see her every day, and I did not

notice her condition before this.

 

        Capt. Sampson – It seems extraordinary you did not

notice a thing like that.

 

Witness – Since this occurrence the women’s doors are

always locked.

 

As a matter of fact while the people were in at

prayers, any person that liked could ramble about the

house? I never met any of them rambling.

 

But they could do it if they liked? - I suppose they

could when the door was open. There was no roll call

to see were the people at prayers. This women, was

always in the hall giving out the milk. A great many

of the hospital people come down to prayers. The

inform people get there meals carried to them.

 

You say the doors were left open during prayers, and

if a woman stood behind she could go about the house

of her own accord? – Yes, until the doors would be

locked; that was always so before I came to the house.

As a rule I always take curfew of the hall when the

inmates are having their supper. I stand by the man

giving out the meals. Sometimes I go into the chapel

with the inmates, or I am about the place. After

prayers the schoolmistress locks the women’s door.

This woman sometimes brought messages to the Master’s

room in the morning. He would send down for her and I

would send her up, and the schoolmaster would do it in

the same way when he would be doing the business.

Seldom I give out the breakfasts.

 

It seems an extraordinary thing that a woman with two

illegitimate children in the house could wander about

the house without being called to order? – She was a

wardsmaid.

 

Her proper position was in the infirm ward, she had no

business to go to the Master’s room and there might

have been a better selection as wardsmaid? – I never

had any fault to find with her, she always behaved

herself very well in the house; she was very clean,

and that was the reason she was brought in to give out

the milk.

 

To Mr MacDermot – I never saw any intimacy between her

and Mr Conway, or any man coming in or out of the

house.

 

Mrs French, hospital nurse, swore she was present when

Cryan made the statement to Mrs Cunningham. The child

was full-grown.

 

Miss Cunningham explained that this woman was selected

as a wardsmaid because she was best of her class.

 

Capt. Sampson – It was not about her being a nurses I

spoke, but about her being sent up to the Master’s

room.

 

A tall bold woman named Anne Purcell was called by Mr

MacDermot an sworn. She said- I am 14 months an inmate

here; I spent most of my time in the cookhouse, and

slept here. About this time twelve months, before the

bed bell rung, I saw Anne Cryan coming from the front

house with the Master, and she appeared to be

intoxicated with liquor. He let her out and locked the

door. After being in the laundry he said, “Anne Cryan,

ring the bell.” I said she was there. “Oh, Anne

Purcell,” says he, “ring the bell.” I suppose Anne

Cryan was always in his mind. About the 8th or 9th of

May when the rosary was going on, I saw Anne Cryan

talking with the Master in the schoolroom. Her

daughter was standing there in the hall, and I said,

“what is your mother doing there with the Master?” She

said she wanted clothes from the Master, as they were

going out. Mr Conway was there at the rosary with his

children.

 

Capt. Sampson – Was the Master under the influence of

drink that night that he locked Anne Cryan outside the

door?

 

Witness – I could not say he was under the influence

of drink, because I always saw him in the habit of

having some drink taken.

 

Capt. Sampson asked the Master did he want to ask her

any questions.

 

The Master said there were never greater falsehoods

sworn. The woman was most vindictive because he

checked her on several occasions.

 

James Bruen was called as the next witness by Mr

MacDermot, and said – I am porter to Messrs Kennedy

who have a contract for supplying goods to the

workhouse. On one occasion I saw the Mater and this

woman in the milk-store. This woman was leaning over

the churn, and he had his arms around her waist. I

said to him “Mr Kennedy would be blaming me for

delaying.” He said, “All right, James, I will be ready

in a few minutes.”

 

The Master said he would ask no questions. He wondered

the man would presume to sit there, and swear what he

did.

 

An old woman named Honor McLaughlin , who is servant

to Mr Conway, swore that a fortnight before this woman

was confined, she said to her not to crush her, as she

was near her confinement, and “of her opinion she

would leave it on the schoolmaster, as she was

bribed.”

 

Cryan – Wasn’t it lucky I told that to a lunatic like

you?

 

Mr Philip O’Donnell, the porter, was next examine

briefly as to the entries in his book.

 

Capt. Sampson – I don’t think that evidence is

important. I will now ask Father O’Malley, the

chaplain.

 

The Rev. O’Malley, P.P., V. F., was sworn and said he

reported this matter to the guardians. From the

evidence he heard to-day there was an irregularity

with regard to closing the doors during prayer.

 

Have you had to find fault with any of the officers as

to their conduct or behaviour in the house as chaplain

of the institution? - Yes, I had to find fault with

the Master and with O’Donnell, the porter.

 

What kind of misconduct to do you attribute to them? –

Drunkenness. It was probably five months ago. I saw

the Master and with O’Donnell, the porter.

 

Did you see him doing his duty in the house drunk? -

It was not long ago since I saw him worth a

considerable quantity of drink taken but still he was

doing his work. I saw the porter in his room very

incapable from drink on one occasion. I think there

should be a more strict supervision practised with

regard to the attendance of the inmates at night and

morning prayers. I can give no information regard to

this affair; I often saw this women attending her

religious duties.

 

        Mr Richard (House?) Master, was then sworn. He said

it was the talk of the hose how this women deceived

every one as to her condition. He swore that the

statements of Purcell and Bruen were utterly false.

His daughter was there on the three occasions this

woman came to his room with the account of the milk.

What Father O’Malley swore about him was correct.

 

Have you any reason or excuse oaf any kind how this

connection between this woman and any man took place

in the house, putting the schoolmaster out of the

question? – Every officer has his pass key, and it

might be used improperly or not; no person can control

that.

 

        Mr Hall tendered the daughter of Anne Cryan as

writes, but the Inspector would not take her evidence

as against her mother.

 

        Mr Conway appealed to Mr Odbert, the clerk, as to his

character.

 

        The Inspector said he knows nothing about his conduct

in the house.

 

        Cryan – Mr Hall is fairly belied.

 

        This terminated the inquiry, and the Local Government

board will communicate the result to the guardians.

 

 

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14 April 1888

The Master and Porter Called on to Resign.

 

The following was read: -

 

                        Local Government Board.

                        Dublin, 6 April 1888.

 

Sir – I am directed by the Local government Board for

Ireland to inform the Board of Guardians of Boyle

Union that they have received Capt. Sampson’s report

of the inquiry, held by him into a charge of

immorality preferred against the schoolmaster of the

workhouse by an inmate named Anne Cryan, together with

minutes of the evidence taken at the inquiry which are

enclosed for the guardians’ information.  Capt.

Sampson in his report states as follows:-“Anne Cryan,

the woman in question, is the mother of two

illegitimate children and states the schoolmaster is

the father of this child. It appears after the child

was born, she stated both to the Matron and the

hospital nurse that the connection only took place

once in the women’s yard. On, however, their fixing

the time and hour she gave, it would be broad daylight

and almost impossible for it to occur in such a public

place. She afterwards changed the time and place , and

said it occurred twice in the schoolroom. She admits

on oath that the statements she first made are false,

and can offer no reason for having done so.  From the

evidence and the way in which she gave it, I feel

certain she was not stating the truth and that her

evidence cannot be relied on. Mrs McLoughlin , an old

woman, swears she had a conversation with Anne Cryan

before the child was born, and that Anne Cryan told

her she would put it on the schoolmaster, and that she

had been bribed to do so. Mr Conway, the schoolmaster,

is a young man, of very good character, and he denies

on oath all the statements made against him by Anne

Cryan. Taking the previous character of this woman

into consideration, as well as her acknowledgement

that her first statements were false, and there being

absolutely no corroboration, I think she has

altogether failed to establish her charge. The fact,

however, remains that the child was born in the house,

the management of which does not appear to be in a

satisfactory state.”

 

        The guardians will observe that although Anne Cryan

has failed to prove her charge, there is evidence to

show that the Master has been guilty of great neglect

of duty, and that he not maintained proper discipline

and classification in the establishment. It also

appears that both himself and the Porter are addicted

to habits of intemperance, and that at a recent

occasion the Master was fined at Petty Sessions for

drunkenness on the streets. Under these circumstances

it is quite evidence that these officers are wholly

unfit for their situations, and the Local government

board request that the guardians will call upon them

to send in their resignations at their next meeting.

You are requested to return the minutes of evidence to

this office when done with. – I am Sir your obedient

servant,

 

                        D. J. MacSheahan, Asst. Sec.

 

        The Master and Porter were called before the board

and informed of the result by the chairman.

 

        The Master said it was usual for Boards of Guardians

to ask the Local Government Board reconsider their

decision.

 

        Mr O’Brien said he saw from the Herald report that

there only one charge of intemperance proved against

the porter.

 

        After some discussion Mr Cox proposed the following

which was seconded by Mr Burns: –

 

As our Master, Mr Hall is a very old officer of this

union for over 25 years, and this being the first

charge preferred against him, also our Porter Mr

O’Donnell, whom the board are also satisfied has

discharged his duties satisfactorily, we trust the

Local Government Board will reconsider their decision,

as these officers have promised they will be more

attentive to their duties in future, and a repetition

of this offence will not occur.

 

Mr Lindsay proposed and Mr O’Rorke seconded that the

matter be adjourned for the summoned Board on that

day, fortnight.

 

The voting was: –

 

For the resolution – Messrs Powell, Burns, Cox, H.

Lawrence – 4.

For the adjournment – Messrs Priest, Mullany, O’Rorke,

O’Brien, Flanagan, Lindsay, Chairman – 7. Mr S.

Lawrence did not vote.

 

 

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          Mon, 6 Aug 2001 13:08:41 -0400

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          [Cryan et al.] Wexford Crane/Crean

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If anyone is interested in the descendants of Peter CRANE

(transliterated to CREAN in my family) who farmed at Slevoy Wexford ca 1690, please

contact me. With  a lot of help from the Augustinian friars at

Wellingtonbridge, 

and internet friends, I've been able to sort out ten generations in

Ireland, the US, Canada and Australia. Let me know who/if I can help you. 

The CRANE name appears to have died out in Marshalstown, Barrystown and

Ballymitty as most of the male offspring went into the clergy or

emigrated.

 

Ellen

 

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Roscommon Herald Articles No 6

29 April 1893

The Masters Report

The master (Mr Cox) that he lodged to the credit of

the Union during the week the sum of £23 made up as

follows: - Pigs sold, less 2s luck-money, and care and

feeding, 5s, £21 12 0d; Mr John Higgins, expenses in

hospital, 12s; Ellen Kearne, do, £1 1s. There was a

sum of £1 9s 2 due by a man named Martin Cryan,

Edmundstown, for hospital expenses since November

last. The master wrote since to him about it, but had

since got no reply. The boys and girls were out for

exercise during the week. After giving the clerk

instructions as to Cryan's debt,

        The guardians adjourned.

 

 

 

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31 oct 1896

p2

Boyle Petty Sessions

John Cryan summoned Annie Beirne for the trespass of

four cows on his meadow land on the 5th of October. He

demanded trespass but got abuse instead. It was the

one cow that trespassed four times and he only gave

her up once. A decree for 1s  with 2 s costs was

granted.

 

 

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19 dec 1896

p3

Boyle Board of Guardians

More work for the undertaker

The constabulary of Keash reported that a dog

belonging to Pat Burke of Knocklough had got rabid,

and entering the house of Mary Cryan, of Lurgan, bit

two dogs, which were destroyed. Burke's dog followed

suit, and was certified rabid by Mr Watson V.S.

 

Date:  Mon, 20 Aug 2001 00:43:20 +0100 (BST)

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Roscommon Herald 1895

 

9 Feb

p5 Eastersnow g/y

art

 

16 Feb

p2 Boyle Petty Sessions

He Fought and Ran Away

James Cryan

art

 

3 Mar

Nat Meeting Deerpark Boyle

Ballinultha

James Cryan

m

 

30 Mar

Boyle Petty Sessions

p2 The Old Woman and the Young Man

art

Transfer of License

John Cryan

art

 

6 April

[Year on top of page 1893!]

p4 Ad for John Cryan's Pub on Bridge St Boyle

art

 

4 May

p2 Meeting in Boyle

The license Trade

John Cryan

m

 

6 Jul

[first Supplement]

 

27 Jul

Boyle School Teachers Association

p5 Mr Cryan and Miss Cryan

art

also

Boyle Petty Sessions

Alleged Abusing a Woman

Bridget Cryan

Corp Cryan

art

 

7 Sep p4

New large ad for John Cryans pub

art

 

21 Sep p5

Licensing Notices

Application by John Cryan for License

art

 

19 Oct p5

Boyle Quarter Sessions

Transfers

John Cryan

art

 

9 Nov p1

Boyle Teachers Association

Miss Cryan and Mr Cryan

art

 

16 Nov p5

[Boyle Board of Guardians- Eastersnow Church -

Woman living in church]

art

 

28 Dec p1

Mr John Cryan

xmas ad for pub

art

 

1895 finished

 

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Roscommon Herald 1896

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1 feb p2

Boyle Teachers Association

Cryan and Cryan (Pension Scheme)

m.

 

4 Apr P2/3

6th col bottom

Damages for Seduction

John Cryan -Culthacreighton Daughter Catherine Cryan

Art.

 

2 May p3

Keash co sligo

Davitt Band - Article by J M Cryan

art.

 

13 Jun p1

Antics of Ball Alley Birds

Mary Crane

art

ALSO p2 3rd col

Assisted Emigration

Ellen Cryan -small article

Art

 

4 Jul p2

Keash BINL

P. Cryan

m.

 

ALSO Boyle Board of Guardians

Outdoor relief in Breedogue

Pat Cryan Balinvoher

art.

 

25 Jul p1

National  Teachers Association

Boyle

Cryan and Cryan

m.

 

1 Aug p5

2nd col Annaduff cottage

Cryan contractor

m.

 

8 aug p1 6th col

He Judged by Touch

Michael Crean

art.

 

10 aug p5 3rd col

Trespassing on an Evicted Farm

Patrick Cryan [vs rourkes] Ballinultha

art.

 

oct 3 1896

p3

Eastersnow Cemetery

Bull knocked wall

 

17 oct 1896

p3

Balintober Petty Sessions

Assault John, Pat Catherine Cryan art

also

Boyle Quarter Sessions

An Elphin assault case Jury member Peter Cryan,

Carrowreagh

m

 

24 oct 1896

p1

Boyle Teachers Ass.

John Cryan's retirement

art

 

31 oct 1896

p2

Boyle Petty Sessions

John Cryan summoned Annie Beirne for the trespass of

four cows on his meadow land on the 5th of October.He

demanded trespass but got abuse instead. It was the

one cow that trespassed four times and he only gave

her up once. A decree for 1s with 2 s costs was

granted.

 

p3

Ballymote to Sligo Quarter Sessions

A bride and her fortune Mary, John Cryan

art

 

19 dec 1896

p3

Boyle Board of Guardians More work for the undertaker

The constabulary of Keash reported that a dog

belonging to Pat Burke of Knocklough had got rabid,

and entering the house of Mary Cryan, of Lurgan, bit

two dogs, which were destroyed. Burke's dog followed

suit, and was certified rabid by Mr Watson V.S.

 

p4

A1 at Cryans [ad] John Cryan

 

26 dec 1896

p5

Xmas shopping in Boyle

John Cryan

 

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2 jan 1897

p4

The grand restaurant

first foto

 

30 jan 1897

p1

BTA Miss Cryan

m

 

1 May 1897

p1

Desecration of graves in Mohill

art

 

p5

Death of B. Judge

daughter of Patrick Judge

Merchant of Boyle

 

8 May 1897

Funeral of Judge with John Cryan of Keash

 

15 May 1897

p2

Trespass

James Beirne of Ardmoyle summoned T. Cryan for the

trespass of a pig on the 27 April. He deposed that he

gave the pig up to his sister, and demanded trespass.

Cryan - He never gave the pig up to me, your worship

Mr Bull - We give a decree for 6d and 2s costs.

 

22 May 1897

p2

Serious assault near Mullaghroe

Pat Cryan

m

 

29 May 1897

p1

Boyle Race Meeting abandoned

Mr Cryan [refunded money]

m

 

10 Jul 1897

p1

Obit of Pat O’Rourke of Ballinultha

 

4 Sep 1897

p4

note re illustrations from now on

First illustration of face

 

18 Sep 1897

p5

Mullaghroe Petty Sessions

Telling what they did

T. Cryan

art

 

16 Oct 1897

p4

Assault

Michael Cryan

art

 

18 Dec 1897

Mullaghroe Petty Sessions

Assault

John Cryan

art

 

finished

 

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29 Jan 1898

p4

Ballymote Petty Sessions

A row on the road from Boyle

John Cryan / Michael Cryan

Roddy Cryan / Batty Breheny / Owen Breheny

art

 

5 Feb 1898

p2

Boyle Teachers Ass.

Miss Cryan [Treasurer]

m

 

5 Mar 1898

Ballymote Creamery

New Shareholders

Mrs Cryan - Carrigeens

m

 

2 Apr 1898

p9

Boyle Board of Guardians

Election of School Master

Edward Cryan of Keash

art

 

9 Apr 1898

p3

Boyle Board of Guardians

A hard case

Darby and John Crann

art

 

not finished

 

Date:  Wed, 29 Aug 2001 16:48:13 +0100 (BST)

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Roscommon Herald Articles No 9

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15 May 1897

p2

Trespass

James Beirne of Ardmoyle summoned T. Cryan for the

trespass of a pig on the 27 April. He deposed that he

gave the pig up to his sister, and demanded trespass.

Cryan - He never gave the pig up to me, your worship

Mr Bull - We give a decree for 6d and 2s costs.

 

Date:  Wed, 29 Aug 2001 16:51:46 +0100 (BST)

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Typed by Lauri Cryan

 

Sad Death of a Youg Carrick Man           

(Roscommon Herald 4th August 1889)

 

(From our correspondent)

 

Patrick Cryan, the young man who three weeks ago, met

with such a melancholy accident when passing the

demesne of Mr Guy Lloyd, D.L. died on Wednesday

evening at his parents' residence, Carrick. The

deceased was suffering from concussion of the brain

caused by the falling of a branch of a tree

during the late storm, and was under the care of Dr.

Kiernan, and was progressing favourably until he

became convulsed and died rather suddenly. Much regret

is felt at his premature death, as the deceased was a

great favourite. On Friday his remains were interred

in Kiltoghert.

 

 

Date:  Wed, 29 Aug 2001 16:52:58 +0100 (BST)

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Death of Master Luke Cryan                      (Roscommon Herald 5th July

1890)

 

(From our Correspondent)

 

It would seem incredible, but yet it is a reality,

that that jovial

youth in

his teens is now stilled in death.  His ever beaming

countenance and

genial

disposition had endeared him to his companions in

Carrick-on-Shannon,

where

he spent the major portion of is brief span of life.

After a short illness, he succumbed at his parent's

residence, Carrowrengh, on Monday, June 23rd,

at the age of 17 years.  The deepest sympathy is felt

for his afflicted relatives, and to his esteemed

Father, John Cryan, Esq., P.L.G., we tender

our condolence in his hour of affliction - R.I.P. 

 Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 23:17:42 +0100 (BST)

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8/4/1891

The Bogus Prosecution of the Drumshambo Rowdies in

Carrick

The secret alliance that exists between Parnell and

Balfour was made clear to all men by the transactions

in Carrick on Saturday last. The Drumshambo Rowdies

who led the attack on the Nationalist meeting last

February in Carrick, were put on their trial for riot

in a Crimes Act court before Removables Paul and

Preston. […] At the sitting of the Coercion Court,

after some mysterious “colloguings” between the

solicitors, it was announced that the Crown had

withdrawn the prosecutions against R. J. Cryan, and

James McDermott, jun., tailor, Carrick, and John

McManus, rate collector, Drumshambo. […]

 

Date:  Wed, 29 Aug 2001 23:19:16 +0100 (BST)

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19 April 1902

The Auxilliaries

The next matter under consideration of the affiliation

of Cloonloo and Carrowcrory auxilliaries with the

Boyle Society. […] The experts of the Irish

Agricultural Organization Society, Mr Horace Plunkett

and Father Finlay, were in favour of the establishment

of the auxilliaries.

Mr Cryan said he had come there on behalf of the

Carrowcrory auxiliary. He even advised the Carrowcrory

shareholders not to come to this meeting as

shareholders at all, although he believed they got

notice to attend. He told them not to attend as it

would cause friction.

Chairman - That is a wrong opinion.

Mr Cryan said from experience at the last meeting it

would come to something like it. They came prepared to

pay their own expenses, and if required would pay for

their house and machinery. They only wanted

co-operation. They were prepared to do their part if

the Boyle Society did theirs.

Mr McManamy - I think I can speak for the Cloonloo

shareholders, and I say we are prepared to pay for our

house and machinery.

The chairman asked how may cows they could guarantee

from Carrowcrory.

Mr Cryan - Unfortunately I did not come exactly

prepared.

Chairman - Would you have 200?

Mr Cryan - We could have 500 cows. We have 300 at the

present time.

Mr McManamy said he could endorse every word of what

Mr Cryan had said with regard to the expense of

getting up the house and machinery. He defied any man

prove that their expenses will be £3 a week. […]

 

 

 

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Roscommon Herald

January 30 1892

 

Cloonfinlough to the Front

 

    Mr Michael Carley, Cloonfinlough, processed

Michael Cryan, of the

same

place, for trespass amounting to £6 regarding a

disputed portion of

bog.

    Mr McDonnell was for the plaintiff, and Mr Joseph

Burke, B.L.

defended.

    Mr Hanley, surveyor, produced the map, and gave

evidence as to the

survey.

    Here Mr McDonnell drew attention to Cryan, who

looking daggers at

the

surveyor.

    Carley examined by Mr McDonnell - My father before

me was using

this

piece of bog. I had it in tillage three years. Mr

Holmes, the agent,

told

the bailiff to allow me till the cut-away. The third

year all the

"splits"

were turn up. The Head Constable came out, and Cryan

said it was he dug

up

"the spuds". The same year Cryan's son pulled up the

stalks, and he was

fined before the magistrates. They appealed, and it

was not heard

since. I

lost about 30 cwt of potatoes.

    To Mr Burke - I am tenant to the landlord of that

portion. I did

not put

that piece in the courts to have a fair rent fixed. I

had the title of

it,

and Cryan never paid rent for it. I had the bog, in

addition to my

land. I

put about a hundred ass loads of manure on that bog. I

was put to jail

a

long time ago over a dispute regarding that bog.

    Cryan ("sotto voce") - And his father and his

mother (laughter).

    Mr McDonnell - Mr Cryan won't deny that himself

was in jail. It is

the

case of many a good man.

    Mr Burke interrupted.

    Mr McDonnell - Will you sit down, Mr Burke, you

are like a man with

a

bee in your -- well, somewhere (laughter).

    Mr McDonnell said his throat was sore today, and

he would not talk.

Mr

Burke sat down. Cold water was strong today.

    John Elwood, who was served with a subpoena did

not appear.

    His Lordship fined Elwood £1.

    Jane Carley deposed in reply to Mr McDonnell, that

she was in

occupation

of the place twenty three years.

    Mr Byrne, the bailiff, gave evidence in favour of

Carley.

    To his Lordship -  I know what those fools are

fighting about. It

is not

worth their dinner. I gave permission to Carley from

Mr Holmes to till

part

of this bog.

    Pat Barry deposed in reply to Mr McDonnell that

the bog was worth

twopence a year. Cryan never used this bog before

Carley, and he had

crops

on it three years.

    His Lordship did not proceed further with the

case.

 

 

 

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Roscommon Herald

March 30 1895

 

The Old Woman and the Young Man

 

    Catherine Walsh summoned a respectable looking man

named James

Cryan for

having assaulted her. Cryan had a cross-case against

Catherine for a

like

reason.

    The parties live near Boyle on the Doon side.

    Catherine deposed that on last Monday week Cryan

went into her

garden

and assaulted her by throwing her to the ground. They

had words about

hay,

and after throwing her Cryan took the hay away. A

brother of Cryan's

came in

at the end and beseeched them to make peace.

    Cryan - How often did you strike me with the

stick?

    Catherine - Ah, about twenty times I believe

(laughter).

    How often did you strike me with stones? Ah, go

long out of that,

you

and the stones (laughter).

    Didn't you throw stones at me? - Sure an ould

woman like me

couldn't be

a little boy like you (laughter).

    Mr Bull - Did you strike him with the stick?

    Catherine - I did.

    Mr Bull -Was that before or after he threw you? -

After.

    Cryan - Did you know that I had that hay from your

son? - No.

    Mr Bull said the court would be quite right in

protecting the

woman, but

they could not allow her to strike a man with a stick.

    Mr Gillespie asked Catherine if she had any

witnesses.

    Catherine - Ah, sorra witness. It was his brother

came into the

garden.

    Cryan - Her own cousin was there.

    John Cryan, brother of the defendant, deposed,

amid comical

ejaculations

from Catherine, that when he and his brother went to

take the hay,

which

they had authority to do, Catherine struck the

defendant several times

with

a stick.

    Catherine - What  are you going down there at all

for? What claim

have

you?

    Defendant deposed that at the time plaintiff's son

got married to

his

sister, he gave him authority to take the hay. He had

a letter from her

son

to that defect.  He (defendant) would not strike an

old woman like the

plaintiff.

    Mr Bull said that if they were satisfied that

Cryan assaulted the

woman

in the first instance they would send him to jail -

    Catherine - He wants that (laughter).

    Mr Bull -For a month. But she assaulted first, and

both cases were

dismissed.

 

 

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Roscommon Herald

30 March 1895

 

Transfer of License

 

    Mr John Cryan applied for the transfer of the

license held by Mr

F.R.

Phillips, Bridge St, Boyle.

    Mr Gillespie explained that Mr Cryan had Mr

McDermot, solicitor,

employed but that gentleman was absent.

    Mr Michael Cunningham, T.C. said he had all the

documents in

connection

with the sale of the house to Mr Cryan, which sale he

as an auctioneer

had

executed.  On Mr McDermot's return the assignment

would be completed.

    Mr Bull - Is he in possession of the premises?

    Mr Cunningham - Virtually. He has paid the money.

    In reply to Mr Bull,

    Mr Cryan said he desired to carry on the spirit

trade in Mr

Phillips

premises.

    Mr Bull - I was under the impression that you were

taking Mr

O'Connor's

house.

    Mr Cunningham - No. Mahon's house. He expended a

large sum of money

on

that place, but, of course, he will have to forego it.

    Mr Bull  - Very well, the bench are unanimous in

granting the

license

till the June Quarter Sessions.

    A few unimportant drunkenness cases having been

disposed of, their

worships rose.

 

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Roscommon Herald

Saturday July 27, 1895

 

Alleged Abusing A Woman

 

    Mrs Bridget Cryan, the Crescent, summoned James

Quinn, a neighbour,

for

using abusive language towards her. There was a

cross-summons for a

like

offence.

    Plaintiff stated that Quinn gave her the height of

scandal. He said

he

would walk on her, called her a rogue, and said her

husband was a

rotten

soldier. She had to bring him up before for his

conduct.

    Mr Bull - What is the cause of this?

    Quinn - It is all politics, sir (laughter).

    Plaintiff - I never spoke to him for the last

three years, since I

got

him bound to the peace ---

    Quinn - You and your husband only summon at

election times. I deny

the

charge.

    Mr Bull - Have you any questions to ask her?

    Quinn - I have (to plaintiff) - On your oath did

you not say on the

18th

that "the Parnellites" and the "big-headed man"

(laughter) were landed?

-On

my oath I did not, and I can call a gentleman who

witnessed your

conduct.

    Mrs Ellen Doherty deposed to hearing Quinn say he

would walk on Mrs

Cryan, who never answered him. Quinn was always at her

(witness) as

well as

Mrs Cryan.

    Quinn - Didn't this woman send you to abuse me?

    Witness - Never.

    Quinn - She did, and especially since the last

General Election

they

would not allow a cart of turf turn up to my door. I

never spoke to

this

woman or her husband by night and day since the last

General Election.

    Mr Bull - She says you did more than abuse her.

    Quinn - Well, I did not.

    Martin Doherty was called for the plaintiff. He

said he was passing

by

the scene of the row when Mrs Cryan called him to

witness the affair.

He

only heard Mr Quinn say he would not be walked upon.

    Plaintiff said Mr Powell, of the bank, witnessed

the defendant's

conduct.  

    Richard Fairbanks was also called in support of

Mrs Cryan. He

thought it

was only an ordinary scolding match between the two

(laughter). He

heard

Quinn call plaintiff a rogue.

    Plaintiff - On your oath did you hear me answering

him? - I did.

They

were both abusing each other.

 

    The cross-case was then gone into.

    Quinn deposed that on the evening of the 18th -

the nomination day

for

North Roscommon - Mrs Cryan and Mary Doherty came out

and abused him.

On the

morning of that evening he was at the rent-office

complaining that they

would not allow a cart be brought to his door. She

said --"the

big-headed

Orangeman is landed" (laughter) and "priest-hunter."

Previous to that

she

sent her son, of something about five years, after him

to call him the

same

thing.

    Mr Bull - How do you know whether she did or not?

    Quinn - I saw her telling him. She is trying to

corrupt me and

break my

vote since the last General Election (a laugh).

    Mrs Cryan - He has a gun in the place, and he said

he would blow my

brains out.

    Corporal Cryan then ascended the table.

    Quinn - This man goes around the town with his

pamphlets trying to

induce people to vote for ---

    Mr Bull - Why would he not do that? He has a

perfect right to do

it.

    Corporal Cryan, not being present at the scene

which gave rise to

the

summons was not present.

    Patrick Casey deposed to hearing Mr Quinn say he

would not be

tramped

upon. He could not say that Mrs Cryan was speaking to

him.

    Quinn - The object is - to get me bound to the

peace, the way I

would be

disenfranchised (laughter).

    Mr Bull - Ah, that is nonsense. You both seem to

have been abusing

each

other. So I dismiss the case. Go about your business

(laughter).

    The other cases before the court were adjourned

for the attendance

of

solicitors.

 

 

 

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SATURDAY

APRIL 11 1891

 

THE PROSECUTION OF THE DRUMSHAMBO ROWDIES IN CARRICK

 

On last Friday a Crimes Act Court was held at

Carrick-on-Shannon before Mr.

Paul, R.M., and Capt. Preston, R.M., to dispose of the

charge of riot against

Paddy McManus, Corney McManus and John McManus of

Drumshanbo and Robert J.

Cryan and James McDermott, Jr. of Carrick, the

ringleaders in the attack on

the Nationalist meeting there on the 22ndFeb. last.

Mr. Friery, solicitor, Dublin, appeared for John

McManus, Mr. Slacke,

solicitor for Paddy and Corny McManus and Mr. Bergin

for Cryan and McDermott.

Mr. Morphy, B.L., instructed by Mr. Croker, S.C.S.,

prosecuted. The

prosecution was practically a farce, the police

witnesses called being the

men who managed to see nothing on the occasion.

Sergeant Danial O Mara of Carrick was the first

witness. He saw Paddy McManus

coming into town that day at the head of about 40 men

with sticks. They were

joined by about a 100 in Carrick, and paraded the town

carrying a portrait of

Parnell. They were cheering and above the din he heard

Paddy McManus shouting

they would put an end to Whiggery in Carrick. He saw

the Ballinamore

contingent coming,  and the drumstick pulled from one

of them. Father Donohoe

led the Mohill people, and he saw a conflict with

sticks and stone throwing.

He could not say were Paddy and John McManus there

then, but he saw them go

towards the direction of the conflict. There were

about 20 people on the

platform, and Mr. Jasper Tully was amongst them. He

saw Corny McManus

shouting and groaning and winding a big stick over his

head, and afterwards

chasing a man into Mrs. Owen McDermotts. When Canon

Hoare was speaking, some

one on the platform said "Kitty O'Shea." Paddy McManus

shouted " Not another

word" and then in the din of the confusion set up

again. He saw McDermott,

Cryan, and the McManus's at the breaking up of the

platform, and their

conduct was bad. The priests then held the meeting in

the chapel-yard, and

the Drumshambo people brought down Parnell's banner,

and placed it before the

chapel door and commenced groaning, shouting and

whistling. The Drumshambo

people were not the only Parnellites.

Mr. Bergin said the Carrick Parnellites could have

swept the town if they

wished.

 

MR. FRIERY: Did you consider the reterence to Mrs.

O'Shea bythe seceders an

insult to Mr. Parnell or his followers?

 

WITNESS: Well, they took it as an insult.

 

Constable Irwin proved that Robert Cryan was waving

his hat and cheering for

Parnell when Canon Hoare was trying to speak. There

was a man named Hunt from

Boyle very prominent there that day.

 

Constable James Fitzgerald swore he saw the McManuss

do nothing but cheer and shout. They cheered for

Parnell. He saw an ordinary stick with Corny 

McManus. He did not see Cryan and McDermott do

anything but cheer.

To Mr. Paul I saw the Drumshanbo men strike the

people.

Constable Robert Shaw disposed that he saw the

McManuss take part in

scuffling at the platform.

Constable George Richardson, Drumshanbo, in his

evidence mentioned that he

saw the three McManus's, of Drumshanbo, assisting in

pulling down the

platform.

To Mr. Bergin---John McManus is a rate collector , and

he gave us a seat. The defendants are all respectable.

 

Constable David Noonan deposed that the man he saw

handling Parnell's banner

and carrying it with another in front of the chapel

door was Pat Malone, of

Drumshambo.

Thomas Egan, a Parnellite, from Attirory near Carrick,

was next examined; He

got a black eye that day.

 

Was it through friendship you were struck?

- No

 

Is your political opinion known in Carrick?

I appeal to the Head Constable (great laughter)

Cross examined by Mr. Bergin -I was on Mr. Parnells

side that day. (laughter)

To Mr. Slacke -I believe it was a McCarthyite who

struck me.(laughter)

Owen Hunt, Patrick Early, P.L.G., the Very Rev. Canon

J. Hoare,P.P.V.F.,

Carrick-on-Shannon, Rev. F. Donohoe, P.P., Mohill;

Jasper Tully, Boyle; Dr.

Mulcahy, Coroner, Ballinamore having been called as

Crown witnesses.

The Court adjourned until Saturday week.

Great indignation is felt at the action of the

authorities in endeavoring to

make prosecutors of the Priests.

Father Donohoe's letter in the National Press today

has caused great

consternation in official quarters, and a copy of this

paper has been

impounded.

 

 

 

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11th April 1891

EXPULSION OF PARNELLITE ROWDIES

 

Mr. J.Mulligan, Co. Secretary, said as the business

pertaining to

championship was concluded; he wished to say a few

words concerning one of

their brother members, and it was no other individual

than the saintly

creature Mr.R.J.Q.W.T.R. Cryan, (laughter) the

"honourable" representative 

of the Carrick-on-Shannon team who had created so much

 trouble and disunion

in the country...the so called ringleader of the

recent disgraceful scenes at

Carrick. By his means their priests, whom they loved

so well, had been

warranted by Government authority because they would

not appear before

Balfour's court to proscute the rowdies of Carrick and

Drumshanbo. They had

caused the disturbance at Carrick meeting while

District-Inspector Rogers let

Irishmen spill one another's blood. It was sought to

put the Priests and

their flocks at variance. It was misguided men like

Cryan who were

instrumental in that.

Therefore, he now proposed the expulsion of Cryan from

the County Council, 

because by having him amongst them it would be casting

a slur and disgrace on

them as Gaels and Nationalists. He did not want to be

any way bitter towards

a man to express his opinions whether Parnellite or

Nationalist, but they

could not tolerate a man through whose rowdyism their

priests, perhaps,  may

be before many days lodged in Balfour's dungeons.

Mr. Peter Mcguire seconded the expulsion of Cryan.

CHAIRMAN:  that is a resolution concerning politics,

and I will not entertain

it, it may cause disunion.

MR.MULLIGAN: I beg your pardon, Mr. Chairman. You must

entertain it. How

well  politics were, entertained at our last meeting,

and there was no

objection or disunion.

HAIRMAN: Well, I was not chairman.

MR.MULLIGAN: You should have attended. As long as the

chairman has such

quibbling I will resign and you can put Mr. Cryan in

my place (no, no)

I will never sit with a man like Cryan whose acts are

the means of having the

men of Mohill, perhaps,  to part with their priests

for some time (murmurs)

 

The meeting declared  strongly  against Cryan , and

Mr. Mulligan left the

room followed by everyman present except the chair and

the Cloone

representative. Mr. Mulligan's followers again

returned to the room when  Mr.

Michael Murphy, P.L.G., Capt. Fenagh St.Cailins, was

moved  to the chair.

Mr. Mulligan again proposed the expulsion of Cryan

which was seconded 'una

voce' by eleven Nationalists and warmly endorsed by a

ringing cheer  from

hundreds outside.

The chairman Mr. Murphy, P.L.G., said he never had

greater pleasure in

putting a resolution to a meeting than the present

one. The resolution was

carried with great enthusiasm.

 

 

 

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The Roscommon Herald, Boyle

Saturday, Sept 21 1895

 

NOTICE OFAPPLICATION TO QUARTER SESSIONS FOR

CERTIFICATE FOR PUBLICAN'S

LICENSE

 

TAKE NOTICE that it is my intention to apply at the

next general Quarter

Sessions, to be held at Boyle, in and for the Division

of Boyle, and County

of Roscommon,  on the 18th day of October next, for

amagistrate's certificate

to entitle me to receive a Confirmation of the license

to sell Beer, Cider, 

and Spirits,  by retail at my dwelling house, situate

at Bridge Street,

Boyle,  in the parish of Boyle, Barony of Boyle and

County of Roscommon.

Date this 11th day of Sep. 1895,  JOHN CRYAN

(applicant)

 

P.C.P MacDermot, Solicitor for Applicant, Boyle

To R.R. Fry,Esq., J.P;

Major Murphy, J.P;

W.H.Robinson, Esq.;

Clerk of the Crown and Peace, Peace Office, Roscommon;

and to

C.H. Rafter,Esq., D.I.,R.I.C., Boyle

 

 

 

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21 March 1891

NEWS IN BRIEF:

 

Crimes act summonses have been served on the

ringleaders of the Drumshanbo

and Carrick rowdies who broke up the Carrick meeting.

They are charged with riot and unlawful assembly, and

the defendants are

Paddy McManus, Corny McManus, John McManus, James

McDermott, Drumshanbo, and

Robert J. P. Q. Cryan.  Paddy McManus is a most arrant

coward, because when

he  was in Kilmainham for a couple of months as a

suspect , he signed the

most humiliating conditions to get out.  A dose of the

plank-bed was one of

the things he never bargained for when he came out

cheering the police and

attacking the priests in Carrick. [...]

 

 

 

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16th February 1895

 

HE FOUGHT AND RAN AWAY

 

JamesBeirne, Kiltycreighton, summoned a young neighbor

named Pat Cryan for

having assaulted him on 1st inst.

 

Plaintiff stated that he had been settling with the

defendant's uncle about

the service of cows, opposite Mr. Clarke's in the

Black Lane, when the

defendant approached them and said to the uncle "Have

nothing to do with that man" whereupon he struck

plaintiff on the forehead and ran away.

 

Owen Shannon deposed to seeing the blow struck in the

manner described by plaintiff.

 

DEFENDANT:  Did you see my uncle go between us and

prevent him striking me when he made the rush at me?

 

WITNESS: I did not. I was standing between you both.

 

Michael Horan stated he only heard Beirne say he was

struck by Cryan.

Cryan had across-case against Beirne for assault. He

stated Beirne was only offering his uncle 7s 6d for

the service, instead of 16s. He was insisting on the

uncle taking the small amount. When he ( Cryan) asked

his uncle to come home Beirne said,"What has he got to

do with you?" and rushed at him with a stick, aiming a

blow at him , and nearly pushing him through Mr.

Clarke's window. His uncle said to Beirne that it was

a shame to strike the little boy.

 

James Cryan and Michael Tooman gave evidence as to

seeing young Cryan get the shove.

John O'Rourke was sworn but he could not throw any

light on the matter.

The bench fined Cryan 5s and costs, and dismissed the

cross-case against

Beirne.

 

 CRYAN: Only for I struck him that night there was a

danger of him killing

me, because he is a fighting man (laughter)

 

MR. BULL:You appear to be fighting man yourself (a

laugh)

 

 

 

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>From  BOYLE, Saturday, Sept 12, 1891

 

Headline

Ballinamore Notes (Co Leitrim)

(From our Correspondent)

 

EXCITING    What will the Carrick-on-

SCENES    Shannon rowdy, Parnellites

next turn their hand to? 

This week they appeared in the role of

emergencymen.  No more trusty fellows could

be selected for this purpose (that two masons

named Bob V.F.P.X.V.M.Z. Cryan, and

a burly-looking fellow named Hayden, who

accompanied him from Carrick.  The latter's

Cristian name is either James or John, but lest

I should make an unintentional mistake

and inflict unnecessary pain on any Carrick

person, I will attempt a little personal

description of this Hayden.  He is tall and dark

complexioned with a wild black moustache

and lantern jaws and a prominent set of teeth

and lips which bear evidence of frequent contact

with porter.  These worthy tools of rowdy

Paddy McManus were on Monday engaged

near Newtowngore - a village about three

miles from here - in levelling an evicted

tenant's house under the superintendence of

Cryan's father.  The people of the locality, who

were already incensed against them for the

Carrick infamy, soon made the district a veritable

frying pan for them with the result that these

Carrick Parnellite crowbar brigade men soon

flew.  Surely Nemises is dogging the footsteps

of the plotters and actors of the Carrick outrage!

 

 

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Dated Saturday Oct. 1, 1892 

 

ABUSIVE LANGUAGE AND ASSAULT

 

Mr. Michael Cryan, Boyle, summoned

Mrs Quinn, wife of James Quinn,

carpenter, Ross Lane, for having used

abusive language towards him, and

also for assaulting his child.

 

The plaintiff, who gave his evidence

in a clear and intelligent manner, stated

 - At about five o'clock on Sunday

evening my wife directed my attention

to the defendant's scolding. 

I asked her what was the matter, and she

told me that Quinn's wife had upset the

child.  She was attempting a second

assault on the child when I ran to its

assistance.  Her children were giving us

great trouble, so I went out to this

woman and told her to control her children.

 "Go long" said she, "you black sweep; you lunatic."

 

Mrs Quinn - I said you were like a lunatic.

 

Corporal Cryan - There were witnesses

a short distance off who heard this

woman.  I said to my wife - "Don't

answer this woman.  I'll take her before

a magistrate."  Her expressions were

dreadful, and I have respectable witnesses

to prove same. I told her I would not

speak to her, but that I would bring her

before a magistrate.  "Speaking to you,

you black sweep," she said. "Go long,

you lunatic."

 

Chairman - Then you want me to bind this

woman to keep the peace?

 

Mr. Cryan - Well no.  I want to get

along quietly, as I have always done.

 

Chairman - This is a case of abusive

language, and is more for the Town Court

than this one.

 

Mr. Quinn here began to tell a story.

 

Chairman - You must ask questions.

 

Mrs Quinn (to Mr. Cryan) - Didn't your wife abuse me?

 

Mr. Cryan - I cannot answer that question.

 

Defendant then admitted the use of abusive language.

 

Mary Grehan corroborated plaintiff's statement.

 

Chairman - I suppose it was all about the children?

 

Mary Grehan - Well it was.  Mrs Quinn called Mr. Cryan

a sweep and a lunatic.

 

Mrs. Quinn - I called him a lunatic because he looked

like

one when he came out in his shirt sleeves.

 

James Quinn - She did not say he was one. 

She said he was like one (laughter).

 

Chairman - It was as near a thing as she could

say - a distinction without a difference (renewed

laughter).

 

Mrs Cryan was examined and stated that Mrs Quinn

struck her child on the head, and then when she went

to check her for it she called her a "ballad singer."

 

Mr Quinn denied this statement.

 

Chairman - I would recommend you to leave this man

and his wife alone.  This is a case of riotous and

indecent behaviour.

 

The case was dismissed. 

 

-----------------------------------------------------------------

 

Mr Cryan had also a case against James Quinn.

 

Mr Cryan - On yesterday evening my wife sent for me,

and when I went to the house, I found her shaking. 

Quinn had been using very abusive language towards

her. 

I said to Quinn - " On the word of a man, or as a man,

 

should you make use of such language to this woman?" 

"Go long you b-----r" he said "I would knock the head

off you." 

Mr Cryan went on to state the nature of the abuse

towards himself

and his wife by Quinn, and during the giving of his

evidence was f

requently interrupted by Quinn, who was eventually

called to order.

 

Mr Cryan - The abuse was so much that I went to Mr

Gillespie, C.P.S.,

and got a warrant, which contained the evidence I am

after giving. 

I am in dread of this man.

 

Chairman - You are taking very strong measures.

 

Quinn - It is a wonder a soldier like you would be

afraid of me (laughter).

 

Mr Cryan - If I met you in the discharge of a military

duty you

would know then, but (addressing the Bench) it would

not

become me nor would it be wise of me, to have any

altercation

with this man, as a civilian.

 

Quinn denied the offence, and hurled at Mr Cryan

counter

charges at random.  He said he threatened to strike

Cryan

when he said he would put him and his wife out of that

place.

 

Mr Cryan applied to make another statement.

 

Chairman - Not now.

 

Mr Cryan - Thank you.

 

Michael Connor corroborated Mr Cryan's statement.

 

James McGlynn also gave corroborative evidence, and

said nothing could take place on the occasion without

his knowledge.

 

Chairman (to defendant) - I will put you under a rule

of bail

to keep the peace for twelve months, yourself in #10

and

two securities in #5 each.

 

Quinn - I think that according to the law he should be

bound over, too.

 

Mr Cryan - I did not make use of any abusive language

whatever.

 

Quinn - I appeal to the police if ever I broke the

peace.

 

Chairman - You appear to have lost your temper.

 

In the cross against Mry Cryan the chairman said

- " I refuse to put this man under a rule of bail."

 

 

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16 January 1892

 

DISPUTE BETWEEN GOSSOONS.

 

Michael Cryan summoned Michael Beirne

for assaulting him on the road near the Kingsland post

office. 

Beirne had a cross case against Cryan.

 

Mr MacDermot appeared for Beirne.

 

Cryan deposed that he was coming from Kingsland post

office. 

There were three boys, Michael Cryan, John Morris,

Peter Campbell on the road. 

Beirne asked him what was he listining to, and struck

him with a stick. 

He went to Mrs Connaughton's to be washed and

Beirne again followed him and cut his lip with a

thump.

 

To Mr MacDermot - Myself and my brothers are not on

good terms

with the Beirnes.  We were summoned for trespassing on

their lands. 

I went behind no hedge.  I said to Beirne I would

stand on the road

as long as I liked.  There was no bad language used by

me.  I did

not ask Beirne to fight me, because I would not be

able for him. 

I said I would spend two shillings on him for a

summons.

 

John Morris was sworn, and he denied that Beirne hit

Cryan. 

Cryan was hit in the bushes.  He heard the noise, and

thought

it was a bird.  When they went to look through the

bushes, Beirne told

Cryan to kiss -----.  Witness commenced to gesticulate

with his hands.

 

Capt. McTernan - Keep your hands quiet.

 

Mr MacDermot - He is not in the bush now. 

Don't mind those antics or declaiming.

 

Capt McTernan - I will give Cryan leave to

cross-examine

this witness, but he will not get much out of him.

 

Mr MacDermot - And he is Cryan's witness.

 

Capt McTernan - He is also your witness.

 

Morris who is a young lad, again waved his hands.

 

Capt McTernan - Keep your hands quiet.  I wonder

you did not use them on the occasion.

 

After hearing more evidence, Capt McTernan dismissed

the case without prejudice.

 

 

 

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Ellen, I'm doing a little follow-up on your earlier email (Aug. 6th). 

It

sounds as though you have quite a bit of information for the period

that is a

'dark ages' of sorts for most of the researchers on the list, mainly

htat of

the eighteenth century.  Do I understand correctly that your family,

now

Crean (or descendants of Crean), were Crane back in 1690?  Do you have

any

story to share regarding that?  It's a source of continuous interest to

me to

see the spelling changes and overlaps ...  Thanks -- (when you get a

chance,

of course!  Look how long it takes me!)  - Leslie

 

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No Creans et al. in this book, but nonetheless an enlightening read:

 

The Last of the Name

by Charles McGlinchey, Brian Friel (Editor)

Hardcover - 119 pages (September 1, 1999)

J S Sanders & Co; ISBN: 1879941457

 

Post WWII a school teacher transcribed conversations he had with an

older

resident of the village in which he taught.  It's an interesting

narrative

because of the obvious import of oral narrative in this man's life.  He

often

remembers tales from his own grandfather's youth or peers.  The

transcriber's

touch is certainly felt because their discussions are necessarily

organized

into chapters for a book.  If you want a feel for mid-nineteenth

century

Irish country life, this is your book.  There are glimpses of earlier

nineteenth century life, too.  Twentieth century history is irrelevant. 

Maybe for that reason alone it's an educating experience to read!  

Just

thought I'd share, Leslie

 

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         Fri, 7 Sep 2001 10:36:38 +0100 (BST)

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         [Cryan et al.] Strange....

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Hi

I went to Roscommon recently with my cousin Lauri to

see if we could find the gggrandfathers grave in

Eastersnow cemetery. We talked to locals and bought

chalk to read the faded old graves but to no avail. We

also called into Fr Leonard, the Croghan parish

priest, to see if there were any plot records (which

there weren't). However on the way out of his house I

asked him about a throne-like chair in his porch. He

said that it was quite old and had come from a bishops

house locally. Along the top of the wooden 'canopy' of

the the bishops throne were carved the words'Cor

mundum crea in me Deus' - the Crean family motto.....

 

caoimhghin

 

Date:

          Fri, 07 Sep 2001 08:04:33 -0400

    From:

          Maureen McCourt Nantista <mornan@optonline.net> | Block

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          Maureen McCourt Nantista <mornan@optonline.net>

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          [Cryan et al.] Thank you Caoimhghin!

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          CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Hello Caoimhghin,

Just want to let you know how much your efforts with the Roscommon

Herald are appreciated!!

The Corporal Michael Cryan in Roscommon Herald Articles No.24, Saturday

Oct. 1, 1892 is my great-grandfather. You can imagine how delighted I

am to have this glimpse into his personality.

I am going to be in Dublin for the upcoming Genealogy Congress and was

wondering if you would permit me to treat you to a meal, or if you

prefer a pint, sometime during the week of September 17-22.

I'll also gladly do some transcribing when I return home in early

October.Thanks again.

Maureen McCourt Nantista

Huntington, NY

 

Date:

          Fri, 07 Sep 2001 08:34:32 -0400

    From:

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          Maureen McCourt Nantista <mornan@optonline.net>

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          [Cryan et al.] Article No. 17 - my family again

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          CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

The Cryans in Roscommon Herald Articles No 17, Saturday July 27, 1895

are also my family.

Seems there was continuing bad blood between them and the Quinns.

Maureen McCourt Nantista,

Huntington, NY

 

Date:

         Fri, 7 Sep 2001 06:07:03 -0700 (PDT)

   From:

            Sean Crean <sfcrean@yahoo.com> | Block Address | Add to Address

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         Re: [Cryan et al.] Strange....

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         Caoimhghin O Croidheain <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>

Fascinating!  I wonder if it could be from Bishop

Andrew Crean who was the Diocese of Elphin Bishop in

the 1600's.

Sean

 

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   Date:

         Sun, 9 Sep 2001 21:01:13 +1000

 Subject:

         [Cryan et al.] Crean - Collooney, Co. Sligo

     To:

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I am interested in any information  on the 'CREAN' family from

Collooney.

My gg-grandfather was George CREAN (or CRANE) born about 1785. My

grandfather William CREAN born about 1860 who moved to Scotland and

changed the spelling  of his name to CRAIN so that it wes pronounced

properly by the Scots.

 

Other lines I am following are William CREAN born 6 Aug 1899 and Thomas

CREAN born 1 Jul 1900 who went to USA in 1922 on the 'Laconia' and

Joseph CREAN born 4 Oct 1881 and Robert CREAN born 19 Jun 1883 who went to

USA in 1908 on the 'Cedric'. I have recently made contact with one of

Robert's descendants.

 

Jim Crain

 

Date:

         Tue, 11 Sep 2001 10:52:05 +0100 (BST)

   From:

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 Subject:

         [Cryan et al.] CRYAN CONSULTING

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http://www.emigrant.ie/pro/texts000/iepro251.txt

PROSPECTUS ANNOUNCES ACQUISITION OF CRYAN CONSULTING

- Dublin-based strategy consultancy firm Prospectus

has announced the

  acquisition of Cryan Consulting, an independent

consultancy practice

  serving clients in the Irish and US technology

industry, founded by

  Mary Cryan in 1985. The combined operation will have

projected

  revenues in excess of IR3m in its next fiscal year.

It will trade

  under the Prospectus name, and its clients will

include Baltimore

  Technologies, Norkom Technologies, Euristix,

Massana, Mysis, WBT and

  IFS. Ms Cryan, a former chairperson of the Irish

Software

  Association, will join the board of Prospectus and

head up the

  technology division of the enlarged firm. Prospectus

Strategy

  Consultants is Ireland's largest firm of independent

business

  strategy consultants. Established in 1991, the

company serves clients

  across a range of sectors including technology,

e-consulting,

  financial services, health care and public sectors.

See

  http://www.prospectus.ie

 

 

From: "jcrain" <jcrain@primus.com.au> | Block Address  | Add to Address Book

Subject:        [Cryan et al.] Crean - Co.Sligo

Date:  Wed, 12 Sep 2001 11:27:08 +1000

To:      CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Sean

 

Have some 'James Crean's in my tree although none born in the town of

Sligo.

Do you have info on your GG grandfather's birth or when he (or another

of your for fathers )went to USA ? Hope to be in Sligo soon to try and

find out more about some

of those in my tree. I have nothing further back than about 1875.

 

Maybe we can find a link

 

Regards

 

Jim

 

From: "Kevin Crean" <CMNX@msn.com> | Block Address  | Add to Address Book

Date:  Wed, 12 Sep 2001 16:39:15 -0400

Subject:        [Cryan et al.] Cryan Obit

To:      CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

While on a work-related trip in New York's Hudson Valley I picked up

the local daily paper -- The Times Herald-Record -- and found a paid

memorial obit for a Kevin Martin Cryan.  The date of the paper is Tuesday,

July 17, 2001.  The memorial ad is a 3x3 inch box, including a

photograph and the following:

"In Loving Memory

Kevin Martin Cryan

8-1-56   7-17-96

5th Anniversary in Heaven

"A Beautiful Life Came To An End, He Died As He Lived

Everyone's Friend."

We Love You and Miss You So Much

Mom, Dad, Christine, Michael, Maureen, Kathleen, Colleen, Stephen,

Eileen & Laureen"

 

If anyone can claim this Cryan I will gladly send the original

newspaper ad.

 

Kevin Crean

Long Island, NY

 

 

Date:  Tue, 18 Sep 2001 23:49:41 +0100 (BST)

From: "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> | Block Address  | Add to Address Book

Subject:        [Cryan et al.] Roscommon Herald 1899, 1899, 1900

To:      CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Roscommon Herald 1898

cryan-l@rootsweb.com

 

29 Jan 1898

p4

Ballymote Petty Sessions

A row on the road from Boyle

John Cryan / Michael Cryan

Roddy Cryan / Batty Breheny / Owen Breheny

art

 

5 Feb 1898

p2

Boyle Teachers Ass.

Miss Cryan [Treasurer]

m

 

5 Mar 1898

Ballymote Creamery

New Shareholders

Mrs Cryan - Carrigeens

m

 

2 Apr 1898

p9

Boyle Board of Guardians

Election of School Master

Edward Cryan of Keash

art

 

9 Apr 1898

p3

Boyle Board of Guardians

A hard case

Darby and John Crann

art

 

7 May1898

p1

Tenancy on Rockingham Estate

John Cryan Carrowcrory

Pat Cryan Tulla

m

 

14 May 1898

p5

Licensing Case

Boyle Petty Sessions

Edward Cryan

art

 

28 May 1898

p5

Boyle Petty Sessions

Selling Drink to a Drunken Man

Pat Cryan

James Cryan

art

 

11 June 1898

p2

Boyle Quarter Sessions

An Appeal

Edward Cryan

art

 

25 Jun 1898

p5

Trespass

Michael Crann - Carrow cashaely

art

 

15 oct

[Madame Edgeworth]

 

22 oct

p8

[First Cinematograph Living Pictures in Courthouse]

p9 4th col

The masters report

A man named cryan …

art

 

12 Nov

p2

Constable Crane

m.

 

26 nov

p2

suicide case

Jurors John Cryan James Cryan and James Cryan

[Ballinultha]

m.

 

24 Dec

p2

Death of canon Nangle Croghan

art

 

31 Dec

p2

[obit and genealogy of Charles Owen O Connor]

art

 

finished

 

Roscommon Herald 1899

cryan-l@rootsweb.com

 

 

21 Jan

p3

Ballymotte Quarter Sessions

The Identity of a Heifer

Pat Cryan

art.

 

 

11 Feb

p9

Ballymote Creamery

Winnifred Cryan, Ardnaglass, and Martin Cryan,

Carrowrea, were admitted members of the society.

 

25 Mar

p5

Boyle Petty Sessions

Identity of a grave

James Cryan Ballinultha

art.

 

1Apr

p4

News in Brief

[New organ in Ardcarne church]

art

 

8 April

p3

[Great Meeting in Croghan]

art

 

22 Apr

Boyle No2 District Council [Sligo Portion]

John Cryan elected vice chairman

m.

 

20 May

p1

[The Irish Language - Ballaghdereen Notes]

 

1 Jul

p3

Mohill Petty Sessions

Co Leitrim

An Assault

Pat Cryan Mohill

art.

 

22 Jul

p1

[Death of Bartley Judge of the Green Boyle - Assylin]

 

26 Aug

p2

Suicide of Co Longford Farmer

John Crane

Art.

 

16 sep

p5

[Drurys in Ireland]

art

 

4 nov

p1

The Ball Ballaghdereen

Mr and Misses Cryan

m

 

25 nov

p3

Teachers meetings

T. Cryan Chairman of Ballaghdereen Teachers

Association

m.

 

16 Dec

p8

Ballymote Petty Sessions Sligo

Assault

Andrew and Michael Crann

art.

 

finished

Roscommon Herald 1900

cryan-l@rootsweb.com

 

 

3 Feb

p8

Boyle Teachers As.

Cryan

m.

 

17 feb

[lighting of Boyle]

 

3 mar

p3

Messrs John Cryan Boyle

and John Gavican, Mockmoyne were admitted shareholders

Boyle Creamery

m.

 

28 Apr

p9 UIL

[Splendid demo at Croghan]

art

 

18 aug

p1

[Motor cars in Boyle]

art

p3

[obit James Beirne Warren Boyle]

art

 

25 aug

News in Brief

All arrangements are now complete for the holding of

the Boyle Athletic and Cycling Sports which take place

on Sunday in the Drill Field which has been kindly

given for the occasion by Mr John Cryan.

see also p5 report of event

m.

 

1 sep

Summer Hill College Sligo

Honors List

Edward Crean

Pass in Latin French English Arithmetic Euclid

m.

also

News in Brief

Miss Amy Cryan, daughter of Mr Cryan the respected

teacher of Townybrack National School Ballaghdereen,

has taken second place in all Ireland in the Middle

Grade Intermediate Examination.

m.

 

15 Sep

p5

Ballymote Petty Sessions Sligo

A Keash Licensing Case

Martin Cryan and Margaret Cryan

art.

 

29 sep

p1

Boyle Creamery

James Cryan

m.

also p4

Ballymote Petty Sessions Sligo

Old Case of Trespass

Catherine Cryan

art

 

6 oct

News in Brief

[Marriage of Constance Gore Booth]

 

27 oct

[Boyle Qtr Sess- An Estersnow case- Beirne]

art

 

27 oct

Ballymote Petty Sessions Sligo

Poaching

Mary Cryan

art

 

3 nov

p1

[Croghan great october fair]

art

 

not finished

 

Date:  Fri, 21 Sep 2001 17:14:49 +0100 (BST)

From: "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> | Block Address  | Add to Address Book

Subject:        [Cryan et al.] throne

To:      CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Hi

For those of you who were in interested in my story of

the throne with the Crean motto carved on it, see the

page I've put together below:

 

 

 

http://geocities.com/caoimhghin/throne.html

 

 

caoimhghin

 

Date:  Sat, 22 Sep 2001 16:05:35 +0100 (BST)

From: "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> | Block Address  | Add to Address Book

Subject:        [Cryan et al.] Articles

To:      CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Hi

Thanks for your comments re: the throne - at some

stage I will try and find out more about it. Maybe we

can find some kind of continuity between the Creans of

Sligo and the Cryans of Roscommon throught this

artefact.

 

I have sent another bundle of references to the

Roscommon Library for copying from the microfilm [30

articles]. I should get them back soon. A lot of

people have now offered to type and some have already

done some which I really appreciate. But in case some

found it more burdensome than they expected I will ask

for new offers [even from the same people] rather than

assume you want to do it again. So if you would like

to help please send me your address over the next few

days and I will divide up the articles according to

the amount of addresses I receive. That way I can get

them up on the list really fast.

 

Thanks again

caoimhghin

 

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Date:  Wed, 26 Sep 2001 01:07:36 +0100

Subject:        [Cryan et al.] Re: Cryan

To:      CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Sorry to take so long to reply.

This seem to be the family that you are looking for as shown in the

1881

census. There is no Roger Cryan of the age you state in England at that

date.

 

 

Dwelling: 8 Waterworks Rd

 Census Place: Bishopwearmouth, Durham, England

 

 

James CRYAN M 41  M Ireland

 Rel: Head

 Occ: Laborer In Iron Works

Margaret CRYAN M 41  F India

 Rel: Wife

 Occ: Laborer In Iron Works Wife

James D. CRYAN U 23  M Sunderland, Durham, England

 Rel: Son

 Occ: Laborer In Iron Works

Roger CRYAN   12  M Sunderland, Durham, England

 Rel: Son

 Occ: Scholar

John CRYAN   10  M Sunderland, Durham, England

 Rel: Son

 Occ: Scholar

William CRYAN   8  M Sunderland, Durham, England

 Rel: Son

 Occ: Scholar

Margaret CRYAN   7  F Sunderland, Durham, England

 Rel: Daur

 Occ: Scholar

Ellen TAYLOR U 48  F India

 Rel: Sister In Law

James KEARNS U 28  M Ireland

 Rel: Boarder Lodger

 Occ: Pavior

Anthony KEARNS U 23  M Ireland

 Rel: Boarder Lodger

 Occ: Pavior

Thomas GARA M 47  M Ireland

 Rel: Boarder Lodger

 Occ: Farm Laborer

James TAYLOR W 83  M Welby, Lincoln, England

 Rel: Father In Law

 Occ: Pensioner

 

However this James seems to have been born about 1840 and I do have a

Roger

producing children in the 1840's in the RC parish of Ardcarn and Tumna

which

is also called Cootehall. I have been looking at the parish registers

for

Ardcarn and Tumna but they only start in 1843 and there is only one

entry

for this family. It is possibly of the same family but we have no

proof.

Here it is....

Patrick Cryan bapt 22 April 1844 Ardcarn & Tumna RC Co Roscommon

Parents Roger CRYAN and Margaret FLYNN

(these names were written Roderici and Margarettae - I suppose the

priest's

version in Latin).

 

I do have a marriage of Roger CRYAN and Eleanor NOONE 19 Feb 1819 in

Boyle

your James born about 1840 would have been one of the youngest children

of

this couple.

Good Luck

Eve

 

----- Original Message -----

From: "john cryan" <john@cryan.freeserve.co.uk>

To: < >

Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 8:40 PM

Subject: Cryan

 

 

Hi Eve

Does you have any information on anyone called Roger Cryan born  in

Ireland

D.O.B unknown but before 1810 he was in Sunderland in 1886 living in

Fitters

Row , Bishopwearmouth,

he was at his sons wedding James Cryan born 1840 Ireland marrying

Margaret

Dalziel (formerly Taylor) 18Nov 1866.

Roger ,James ,Williamand Winnifred are regular names popping up in my

family.

 

regards John.

 

 

Date:  Mon, 1 Oct 2001 11:02:34 +0100 (BST)

From: "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> | Block Address  | Add to Address Book

Subject:        [Cryan et al.] Roscommon Herald Articles No 26

To:      CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Thanks to Pat Hunt for the typing

 

Roscommon Herald Articles No 26

 

Roscommon Herald 14-2-1891

Leitrim County Committee

On last Sunday a meeting of the above was held in

Keshcarrigan for the

purpose of drawing the first ties for the county

championship. The

following members attended: ‹Owen Gray, Gorvagh Brian

Borus; Edward Mealia,

Kiltubride Redmonds; Pat Flynn, Ballinamore Oughtrough

Wolfe Tones; John Ward,

Annaduff Parnellites; Francis Short, Cloone

O?Connells; Pat Reynolds, Kiltubride

Davitts; Hugh Reynolds, Mohill Faugh-a-Ballaghs;

Robert Cryan, Carrick

Emmets; J.J.Kelleher, Bornacoola Hugh O?Neills; John

Flynn, Eslin

Sarsfields; John Gray, Gorlettera Campaigners; John

Reynolds, Co.

Treasurer; and J.J. Mulligan, Co Secretary.

    As the chairman, Mr Murphy, was absent again, Mr

Patt Flynn,

Ballinamore, presided.

    The minuts of last meeting were read by the

secretary, and as he

was leaving the book before the chairman to sign, Mr

Cryan, from Carrick,

objected, and proposed that the resolution passed at

last meeting in

Mohill against Mr Parnell be rescinded, and resolution

instead passed at this

meeting in favour of him, which was seconded by Mr

Ward, Annaduff.

    Mr Mulligan objected, and called on the chairman

not to entertain

it, as it was illegal to do so without giving notice,

and if Mr Cryan wanted

to do so, by all means let him give notice on today

that the resolution

against the fallen leader be rescinded at next

meeting.

    Mr Cryan - No, it will divided on today. We came

here to transact the

business of the county, and it is our duty to rescind

that uncalled-for

resolution against Mr Parnell who did so much for the

people.

    Mr Mulligan‹When you thought so much about Mr

Parnell why did you

Not come to the meeting in Mohill, and stand by him?

    Mr Cryan - We were not affiliated at that time.

    Mr Mulligan - Well, it seems you did not think

much of him or you

would pay 10s in order to gain the victory.

    Mr Cryan - It was a hole-and-corner meeting you

held when you passed

that resolution.

    Mr Mulligan - It's wrong. Each member whose club

was affiliated got

due notice, and I call on the members present if any

one can say they did

not get notice, and besides it appeared in the HERALD

to give such men as

you a chance to come forward.

    Mr Cryan again called on the chairman to put it to

the meeting.

    Mr Flynn maintained that Mr Cryan was out of order

in introducing

the matter before the meeting. We came here to draw

the first ties for the

county championship and arrange for kicking off the

ties, and not for

discussing politics. When politics were introduced to

be discussed

relative to Mr Parnell?s leadership at the last

meeting, you, Mr Cryan put in no

appearance., but now you come at the eleventh hour to

upset what the Co

Committee has done in the past. He has asked the

chairman several times

to put his motion before the meeting, and the

chairperson explained to him

very fairly his reason for not doing so, and still Mr

Cryan wants to make

one end of his tongue a liar of the other.

    Chairman‹Now, gentlemen, I would rather you, Mr

Cryan, would not

press on me to do so, and my reason is this because I

believe in the course

of a few days this difference that has risen in the

ranks of the Irish Party

will be settled, and it is our duty to keep silent

until such time as they

do so.

For myself I am in favour of Mr Parnell, but for peace

sake I would

much rather keep silent at present, because it does

not matter a pin what we

do in the matter. It will be abler men that will

settle this affair. I got

notice from Mr Mulligan to attend the last meeting,

but unfortunately

could not, and if I had been there I would have given

my vote for Mr Parnell.

I don't deny it, and I wrote to Mr Mulligan to that

effect, but it seems

my note was not a vote. However, when things have

happened as they did, I

would much rather we would keep silent for the

further.

    Mr Cryan - I press on you, Mr Chairman, to put my

motion before the

meeting and it will settle it at once.

    Mr Mulligan again objected, and called on the

chairman not to

entertain it.

    Chairman‹I will vacate my seat, and let some other

chairman conduct

the business.

    Mr Cryan - No, you will not; you are an

independent chairman, and why

not do your duty?

    Mr Flynn‹I propose that Mr Cryan is out of order

for introducing

the matter before the meeting.

    Mr Kelleher seconded Mr Flynn's proposition.

    Several members‹It is just the same. It is the

same voting.

    Mr Flynn - No, for I know the reason Mr Cryan

introduces the matter,

because I cannot take part in the vote or my friend,

Mr Kelleher, for

we must leave while it is going on.  According to my

position I cannot

take part, and if I was aware that such would be

before the meeting, there

would be a delegate in my place  here, as there was on

the last occasion.

    Mr Cryan - Oh, Mr Flynn, you will not boss us that

way. The Gaels of

Leitrim are not going to be voiced as they were at the

last meeting.

    Here Mr Ward wheeled about in a tiger's rage ready

to devour, and

immediately turned his back to the meeting, and he

addressing them.

    The sec. Called on Mr Ward to control his temper

and manners too,

and told him not to be impertinent, for he and Mr

Cryan had disturbed the

meeting, and seemingly came for that purpose. When Mr

Ward got notice

to attend he acted the coward.

    Mr Cryan pressed his motion.

    Mr Flynn told him he was a disturber, and a man

like him was coming

into their ranks at the eleventh hour, and raising

disunion between members

that worked together from the start of the association

in friendship. They

should not be divided by men like Mr Cryan, and if his

strength was according

to his ability such as it is, he would not call the

Grand Old Man his

cousin (great laughter).

    Mr Cryan‹I was in the ranks as soon as you, Mr

Flynn.

    Mr Flynn‹Well, you were early so, for I think I

was the first to

put a start on the movement in Leitrim, and I always

observed the rules and

caused no disunion or discord among my brother Gaels.

    Mr Cryan again pressed on the chairman to put his

motion before the

meeting.

    Mr Mulligan proposed that the resolution passed in

Mohill against

the leadership be upheld.

    Mr John Reynolds, Co treasurer, seconded the

proposition, and said

it was uncalled for to see men like Mr Cryan or Mr

Ward, that had not the

pluck of Irishmen when called on at the special

meeting, to come forward and

give their opinions, but now they saw that they had an

opportunity, which

they would not if notice were given - of rescinding

the resolution, but

there would be as before two to one against the man

that fell by his own

acts. He always supported Mr Parnell?s views and his

followers, and never kept a

clenched fist against the calls of Nationality when

those that are now

supporting him were behind time.

    As the vote was going to be taken, Mr Flynn and Mr

Kelleher had to

leave, but thanks to the "Hugh O'Neills," they had a

man to take the

place of Mr Kelleher, if politics would be introduced.

    Mr Cryan called for all that loved Parnell to come

to his side.

    Mr Mulligan called for all that loved faith and

fatherland and a

spotless leader to come on his side.

    For Mr Cryan's motion there voted - Ward, Gray,

Campaigners, Short

and Cryan.

    For Mulligan's ‹Reynolds, Gray, Brian Borus,

Reynolds, Hugh

O'Neills, and Mulligan.

    The chairman declined to give his vote although

called on by the

Parnellites.

    The anti-Parnellites cheered "Bravo, chairman, may

your name for

ever shine!"

    So Mr Cryan?s motion was blocked, and the Leitrim

Gaels are still

anti-Parnellites.

    Mr Mealia and Mr Reynolds, Kiltubride, did not

vote, and Mr Hugh

Reynolds, Mohill, said on account of his not voting

before he would not

vote now.

 

Date:  Mon, 1 Oct 2001 11:08:38 +0100 (BST)

From: "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> | Block Address  | Add to Address Book

Subject:        [Cryan et al.] Roscommon Herald Articles No 27

To:      CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Thanks to Pat Hunt for the typing

[this one refers to the death of great grandfather's

brother - caoimhghin]

Roscommon Herald Articles No 27

 

Roscommon Herald 8-2-1902

 

Boyle Teachers' Association

 

The usual monthly meeting was held at the courthouse

on Saturday 25th

January. The following subscriptions were handed in:‹

Mr Gordon, 5s;

Mrs

Deacon, 3s; Mr O'Rourke, 2s.6d. Miss Martin, Messrs

Barnes, McLoughlin,

Beirne, Kenny, Cassidy, Nangle, McDermott, Graham,

1s.6d each. Mrs

Boylan,

and Mr Kenny paid 2s.6d each towards the O'Donnell

fund since last

acknowledgement. The nominations for C.E. for the year

1902 are ‹

Clarke,

Central Secretary; Hegarty, President; Moore,

Treasurer, and Nangle and

McGettrick, Connaught representatives. The outgoing

officers tendered

their

resignation and were re-elected. The following

resolutions were passed‹

(1) - "That the meetings of this Association for the

current year be held

on

the thirds Saturdays of April, July and October, and

that no further

intimation of date of meetings be given to members

except notice in

Class

Journals; (2) - "That Mr J McDermott be admitted a

member of the

Association.

(3) - That we deeply sympathise with Mr Cryan and

family of Croghan, on

the

premature death of Mr John Cryan."  - E.J. Kenny ,

P.J. Beirne, secs.

 

 

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Roscommon Herald Articles No 28

 

Roscommon Herald 24-11-1894

 

The Daring Robberies in Boyle -

An Adventurous Youth.  - Returned for Trial

Roscommon Herald, Saturday, November 24, 1894

 

(excerpts)

 

    On Wednesday, Mr R.G. Bull, R.M., sat in Boyle

courthouse and held

aninvestigation into the charges of robbery of a

bicycle, bulgariously

entering the house of Mr John Cahill, Elphin Street,

Boyle, and taking

therefrom a pair of boots, of entering in a similar

manner the house of

MrJames Candon, Bank Lane, Boyle, and stealing therefrom

a sum of money,

preferred against Thomas Lavin, Carricknahornia.

..........................

    Martin Cryan, publican and farmer, Carrowrea, Co

Sligo, deposed to thebody portion of the bicycle being left at his his

house by last witness.

Sergeant Lynch took it away.

    Actin Sergeant Lynch, Keash, deposed‹On the 6th

inst. I receivedinformation that a portion of a bicycle was at Cryan's

house, whither I

wentand got a wheel and the body of the bicycle, including

the chain, now

produced. On the 8th inst. I obtained one wheel,

saddle, pouch, handles

andother parts from Patrick Henry, of Carrowcrory. On the

9th I receivedscrews. On the 10th I received handles, brake,

mudguard and pedal. I

brought all to the police barrack and produce them now.

 

......................

    Martin Cryan, Carrowrea, gave evidence as to Lavin

going to his house at

about 10.8 on Sunday morning, the 4th inst. That was

about five Irish miles

from Boyle. Lavin asked for a post-car. Witness said

he could not supply one

just then, but if he waited till after Mass he could

supply him. Lavin waited till then and was supplied with a car. He gave

him coppers to  the amount of £2.9s or £2.12s, and witness gave him a half

sovereign and  the rest in silver in exchange.

 

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Roscommon Herald 1900 / 1901

 

17 nov 1900

Dromod Petty Sessions

[fr hourican, drumsna]

 

24 Nov 1900

[p1 the gaelic league, croghan creamery cartoon,

p3 extraordinary scene at croghan creamery]

 

24 nov 1900

[croghan petty sessions

An Eastersnow case

Martin Beirne

art]

 

1 Dec 1900

p1 1st col

[Longford notes Gaelic League and gaelic notes, art]

[land sub commission Longford, hourican]

 

8 dec 1900

[p1 Gaelic notes art]

also

[obit p3 p. houtican]

also

[Hyde and mcAleese art]

 

15 dec 1900

News in Brief

[hyde's play and lecture]

also

[castlerea district news: gaelic revival in castlrea]

 

22 dec 1900

[gaelic notes:

irish in school art]

[hyde [war items page] 7the col art]

 

12 jan 1901

[p1 cartoon re irish lang]

 

26 jan 1901

p1

[gaelic notes: bilingual education art]

 

2 feb1901

Labourers act  inq

Intro and Creeve

LAST PAGE small art

 

9 feb 1901

p11

[Longford town comis:

Renaming the streets]

art

 

2 mar 1901

p1

[cartoon re renaming the streets

in Irish]

 

9 mar 1901

[longford town commissioners

The Irish Revival-streetnames art]

also[obit malachy coleman]

 

16 mar 1901

[news in brief - no's of people who speak Irish]

 

23 mar 1901

football

boyle vs c o s

cryan on team

art

also

sligo union

tobacco for inmates

hugh cryan

art

also

[ad for lecture by hyde last page]

 

30 mar 1901

[the gaelic revival: hydes lecture in ballaghdereen,

p2 long art]

also

p3

castlerea petty sessions

Brothers differ

thos vs martin crean

art

also

UIL

Keash branch co sligo

full of cryans

art

 

6 apr 1901

[Croghan branch

pat eardly, m]

 

 

27 apr  1901

p2 Boyle race committee

cryan

art

also

Ballymote petty sessions

Mr Cryans case

art

 

25 may 1901

p1

[irish on cart, cartoon]

also

Ballymote petty sessions

the Keash case

martin cryan

art

 

1 june 1901

p2

[voice photography:

graphophone, art]

also

Presentation Brothers Schools Boyle

Annual sports dayon Whit Monday

John Cryan

art

 

8 jun 1901

p7

Boyle no 2 district

Mr Cryan re elected

art

 

22 jun 1901

p3

[electric light]

art

 

29 Jun 1901

Ballymote petty sessions

The Keash case

E. Cryan

art

 

20 Jul 1901

p3

Ballymote petty sessions

assault

thomas cryan, knockaligan

art

Mullaghroe Petty sessions

Captain Crene RM [Crean, Crane, Crene]

M.

 

3 Aug 1901

Cartoon of Crane RM [Crean, Crane, Crene]

 

 

10 Aug 1901

p3

Boyle Union

Keadue Pump

J Cryan

art

also

Boyle Creamery

Carrowcrory Auxilliary

J Cryan

art

 

12 oct 1901

[Electric lighting of boyle, also in article-

First photo portraits]

also

News in Brief

Captain Crean RM [Crean, Crane, Crene]

"Captain Crean RM who was so conspicuous

during the disturbances in Bally mote has been

transferred to Tralee"

 

Date:  Mon, 8 Oct 2001 11:19:22 +0100 (BST)

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Roscommon Herald 28-5-1898

 

 

SELLING DRINK TO A DRUNKEN MAN

    District Inspector Rafter charged Mr Michael

Lydon, Chapel Street,

Boyle, with supplying drink to a man who was under the

influence, named

Luke

Hannon on the night of the 9th May. Hannon was

summoned for being

drunk.

    Mr MacDermot appeared for Mr Lydon.

    Constable Gibbons deposed that on the 9th May he

was passing by Mr

Lydon's public house when he noticed Hannon in the

shop with a lot of

other

people. He was drunk at the time. Subsequently he saw

him out of the

street

staggering about, and again after some time observed

him going into Mr

Lydon's shop. As he was passing he saw Hannon with a

glass in his hand

which

contained some rum hot. He asked Mr Lydon why did he

supply him with

it, and

he said he did not, and would not supply drink to any

man in that

state.

    Cross-examined by Mr MacDermot‹Do you know that Mr

Lydon is one of the

most respectable publicans in town? ‹Yes: he keeps a

most respectable

house.

There was a woman in the shop who said she gave the

rum to him, but

subsequently an old man got up and and said he gave it

to him.

    When you saw him coming out on the street, why did

you not arrest

him?

‹It was discretionary with me. He was not incapable.

    Mr John Lydon deposed that it was fair day, and

the shop was

crowded,

and he did not see the man. He supplied James Cryan

and Pat Cryan with

two

halves of rum hot but did not see Hannon there until

the constable

pointed

him out to him.

    Mr MacDermot‹Did you see Hannon with the glass?

No: I saw the

constable

with the glass. It contained one of the two halves I

served to the two

men.

    James Cryan deposed he and Pat Cryan went into Mr

Lydon's on the

fair

day to have a drink. They called for two halves of rum

hot, and while

they had the drink before them Phil Hannon came into

the shop. Pat Cryan handed

his glass to Hannon to have a drink, and he had it in

his hand when the police

came in and I took it from him. He had not taken

anything out of it when the

two policemen came in.

    Pat Cryan gave corroborative evidence.

    The bench dismissed the case.

 

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A Hard Case

Roscommon Herald 9 April 1898

 

The following was read:‹

   "Gentlemen,‹I have received an application from the

Master of the Workhouse stating that he was directed

by your Board to apply to me for 14s for maintenance

of my father, John Crann, from 23rd September to 6th

December 1897. I beg to state that I am a very poor

man, having to support my wife and five small children

on six acres of poor, rushy land, and am greatly

distressed this year owing to the failure of my

potatoes. In fact I had none for the past two years,

and only for the goodness of the shopkeepers of Boyle

in giving me credit from time to time to support

myself and my weak young family, themselves and myself

would be another burden on the rate of the Union. I

kept my father for nine years, and if he will come and

live with me again, I will do my best to keep him, but

I have not a shilling to pay the Board for his keep,

and can't do so unless I starve my children. Hoping

you will take my distressed condition into your kind

consideration. ‹ I am, your obedient servant,

Darby Crann.

 

Clerk‹He is certainly ver poor.

Mr J Mullany‹Oh, Mr Priest will approve of it.

Mr Priest‹I suppose it will be a Union charge

(laughter).

Chairman‹Oh, it is a divisional charge now.

Clerk‹It will be a Union charge next year.

Mr Priest‹I got a hard trimming the last time. I must

look up and cannot be too lenient (laughter).

Chairman‹You my lose the one vote next time

(laughter).

Mr Priest‹A burned child dreads the fire (laughter).

The matter dropped.

 

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Licensing Case

Roscommon Herald

14 May 1898

 

   Mr CH Rafter D.I. Boyle, prosecuted Mr John Priest,

Chapel Street, Boyle, for an offence against the

Licensing Act.

   Constable WJ Higgins deposed in reply to Mr

Rafter‹On the night of the 26th April I was on duty

with Constable McGarry at about 11.35 p.m. Our

attention was attracted to the licensed premises of Mr

Priest. I saw light in the shop. We knocked and

entered, and found Michael Horan and Edward Cryan

sitting beside the kitchen fire. There were four

glasses containing traces of liquor on the table

beside them.

   Mr Jones‹Where do they live?

   Constable Higgins‹In Boyle.

   Mr Rafter‹Did you question Mr Priest?

   Constable Higgins‹I did and he said they were

servants of his and he told me to do my best. He said

they were putting on a lock for him. He invited them

in for a drink.

   Mr Jones‹Did you see any sign of a lock? ‹I did

not. Constable McGarry asked Cryan when did he become

a tradesman as he was a schoolteacher formerly and Mr

Priest replied that he was now trying to earn his

living.

    Cross-examined‹I was listening about ten minutes

before I went in. I did not hear any noise or sounds

of drinking before I went in. We were not kept at the

door an unreasonable time. I am stationed thirteen

months in Boyle. Mr Priest's house is fairly

conducted. I know Mr Priest is building a new house. I

know these men are in his employment.

   Constable McGarry corroborated Constable Higgins'

evidence.

   Mr John Priest deposed‹These men are in my

employment. That night they were putting up a lock for

me in the new house. They worked until a late hour. I

brought them over to my house about half past nine

o'clock, and asked them what would they have. Edward

Cryan said he would love a glass of porter, and

Michael Horan had some wine. I kept these men in

conversation until the constables entered. I swear

positively that I gave those men the drink myself. I

did not make any attempt to conceal anything.  Those

two men are in my employment.

   Mr Rafter‹How do you account for the four glasses?

   Mr Priest‹It was other customers who where

drinking, and left them on the table.

   Mr Rafter‹Did you tell the police these men were

your servants?

   Mr Priest‹To the best of my opinion I told them

they were in my employment.

   Michael Horan deposed‹I am a carpenter and working

for Mr Priest. I am in receipt of [...] from week to

week. I have the pledge against whiskey and porter. I

took it from the nuns.

   Mr Jones‹What is the substance of your pledge?

   Horan‹I took it against intoxicating liquor.

   Mr Jones‹Do you call port wine intoxicating liquor?

   Horan‹Wine is not much harm. We had finished

putting on the lock at at half past nine o'clock. Mr

Priest invited us into the kitchen. I did not order a

drink of any kind or pay for any.

   Edward Cryan deposed‹I remember going into Mr

Priest's house that evening. It was on Mr Priest's

invitation. Mr Priest asked me what would I have and I

said I would have a glass of porter. I did not pay for

the drink. I paid for a drink for a man for a man

named Regan. It was a pint of porter he took.

   After reviewing the evidence, the bench imposed a

fine of [...]s and costs.

 

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Subject:        Choices on CRANE origin and motto

Date:  Fri, 5 Oct 2001 12:15:22 -0400

I have merged together several different origins for the CRANE/CREAN family name that I found on Cathy Joynt Labaths web page (www.celticcousins.net/irishiniowa) or that Rosemary Crean Gray provided to me from our Grandfather Crean's library and attached them in a word document.

 

Fr Butler, OSA, the historian for all the priestly CRANEs of south Wexford suspected that the Wexford CRANE family was of Norman origin and Cathy's CRANE ancestry documentation provides support for such an interpretation.   Wexford  is about as close to Normandy as to Sligo. The Wexford CRANE family Fr Butler traced certainly didn't seem to show much interest in going around Ireland outside of southern Wexford since 1690 (except for Dublin).

 

I usually refer to Cathy's web page for information on the Herron family which links my husband's family to Cathy's. The world keeps getting smaller. Tom Crane was amused that this Crane/Crean was married to a Herron - but now this may be only one of many such unions.   Or are Crane and Herron (and their soundex variants) only the next most common names after Smith?

 

 

 

Maybe the Wexford Crane/Crean's should think twice before assuming that their proper family motto is "Cor mundum crea in me Deus" - this one may belong only to the Sligo CRYAN family.  The Augustinians may be able to help solve this problem with the records of all the priestly Augustinians. The good bishop of Bedingo Australia ought to have had a motto and maybe he even had his carved on his episcopal throne as the Roscommon bishop did on Caoimhghin's web site (http://geocities.com/caoimhghin/throne.html). 

 

I will definitely contact the Augustinians in Dublin and also at Wellingtonbridge when my brother and I visit at the end of this month.

 

Ellen

 CRANE/CREAN name history

From Cathy Joynt Labaths web page

Cutter, William Richard. New England Families Genealogical and Memorial: Volume IV. 1913. Reprint, Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., 1996.p. 1648

(The Crane Line).

The surname Crane has an ancient English history dating back to the Hundred Rolls of the thirteenth century, and was probably a Norman local name earlier. Its similarity to the name of a bird has caused some of the families to adopt the crane as a symbol on their coat-of-arms, and indeed some branches of the family may have adopted the emblem before taking the surname. The coat-of-arms of the Crane family of Suffolk, England, to which some if not all the American families belong, is: Argent a fesse between three crosses crosslet fitchee gules. Crest: A crane proper. There have been many distinguished Englishmen of this name from the earliest use of the surname. There were a number of pioneers of this family in Massachusetts before 1650.

From "DIRECTORY OF THE ANCESTRAL HEADS OF NEW ENGLAND FAMILIES (1620-1700)"

compiled by Frank R. Holmes, publ. by Genealogical Publishing Co., 1974

The name dates back to the Hundred Rolls in the 13th century, when on the records William de Crane's name appears in 1272. The name is derived from town of Crannes, in Maine, a province in northern France; its root is from the Gaelic Cran, meaning water.

From Rosemary Crean Gray

 

IRISH FAMILIES  Their Names, Arms and Origins. by Edward MacLysaght, Allen Figgis & Co. Ltd Publishers, Dublin, Ireland

First publ.1957 by Hodges Figgis & Co. Our edition publ.1978.

 

O'CREAN, Crehan, (Cregan).

 

    According to MacFirbis, O'Crean and O'Cregan are synonymous, Crehan again being a variant of Crean. In Irish Crean and Crehan are O Croidheain (spelt O Craidhen by the Four Masters) and Creegan or Cregan is O Croidheagain. These families formed a minor sept of the Cineal Eoghan belonging to Donegal, with a branch in the neighbouring county of Sligo.  They are twice mentioned by the Four Masters as wealthy merchants, which is somewhat unusual in the Annals: in 1506 as of County Donegal; in 1572 as of Sligo.  The Clongowes manuscript "The State of Ireland in 1598" gives them a higher status : the then head ot the family was John O'Crean of Ballynegare, and in another place in the manuscript O'Crean of Annagh is stated to have been one of the leading families of Co. Sligo in the sixteenth century.  According to the "Annals of Loch Ce" the Bishop of Elphin in 1582 was an O'Crean, but he was "removed"in 1584. Father Daniel O'Crean (d. c. 1616) of Holy Cross, Sligo, was Provincial of the Dominican order in a period of intensive persecution.

    The form Crehan is usual in Co. Galway; in Co. Mayo these are called Crean, Grehan and even Graham.  Creegan alone of these variants can be said to belong now to Co. Sligo.  Crean is mostly found today in south-west Munster, but families of the name in Kerry and Cork are in most cases Creen, recte Curreen, i.e. O Corraidhin.  A further  complication in regard to the name Crean arises from the fact that the O Corrain, normally Curran in English, has become Crean in some places. The arms illustrated in Plate VI are those of O'Crean of Donegal and Sligo and do not belong to the Creans of Munster.

pp. 99-100 

  

Plate VI 


O'CREAN

 

"Argent a wolf rampant sable between three human hearts gules.

Crest: A demi-wolf rampant sable holding betwen the paws a human heart or."       "Cor mundum crea in me Deus" -  “Create in me a clean heart O God” from Psalm 151.

 

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Date:  Mon, 8 Oct 2001 12:23:50 +0100 (BST)

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Roscommon Herald 8/8/1896

 

He Juged [Judged] by Touch

 

Michael Crean, Fairymount, near Castlerea, came to

Boyle on Friday week

last to attend the Fair on the following day.  He took

lodgings in Chapel Street

and retired to rest somewhat earlier than the majority

of dealing men. 

He threw his clothes somewhere, or anywhere, on the

bedroom furniture and

went comfortably to sleep.  He slept soundly for

several hours and then awoke to

find that the room was crowded with an accession of

cattle buyers who

had come to the fair.  This did not disconcert him,

but he got up quickly,

picked up a trousers from a pyramid of clothing piled

on the floor in

careless confusion.  Having donned the trousers he

sauntered out to

judge if

the weather for the fair was going to be fine.  While

outside he missed

from

his trousers' pocket 4 pounds, 2 shillings, which he

had pinned there

before

retiring to bed.  He immediately became excited,

re-entered the house

and

made things lively for the inmates alleging that his

money had been

stolen. 

After venting his anger, he proceeded to the police

station and made a

complaint about the loss of his money.  Sergeant

Lennon and

Acting-Sergeant

Cowan proceeded to the lodgings, accompanied by Crean,

who, on a light

being

produced, exclaimed that he had put on the wrong

trousers. He relied on

the

touch of the texture in the dark and made a mistake.

Of course his own

trousers was where he left it, and his money perfectly

safe.

 

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Roscommon Herald  15 August 1896

 

TRESPASSING ON AN EVICTED FARM

 

Patrick Cryan, Ballinultha, was summoned by the

Trustees of the Rockingham Estate for allowing cattle, his property, to trespass

on an evicted arm adjoining his holding on the 3rd, 4th, 5th and 6th

August.

 

Patrick Rourke was examined and stated he was formerly

tenant of the holding respecting which the complaint was made.  He was

evicted out of it, but had since been in occupation of it as a caretaker.  Since

he was evicted, the defendant's cattle have been trespassing on the

holding almost every day.  The defendant told him that he (witness) had no claim

on the holding.  On the dates mentioned, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th August, he

found the defendant's cattle trespassing on the farm.

 

Defendant - Did I not make new mearings?

 

Rourke - You made them on your own land.

 

Defendant - I made my fences but this man (Rourke)

never made the slightest

attempt to fence his land.  For the past three years,

he never put a stone upon the fence.

 

Mr. Robinson - This man (the defendant) merely wants

cheap grazing on the evicted farm.

 

Defendant - We divided these mearings two years ago

and I made mine.  If he had made the fences, the cattle could not trespass.

 

Mr. Robinson - I could now apply for an order to

compel this man to

make the fences.

 

Mr. Bull announced that the defendant would have to

pay a compensation, amounting in all to 26 shillings for the trespass of

the cattle on the four days mentioned in the case.

 

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Roscommon Herald 17 Oct 1896

 

ASSAULT

 

John Farrell of Knockalaghta, summoned John Cryan,

Catherine Cryan and Pat Cryan, of same place for

assaulting him on the 3rd of October.  Mr. Scroope

appeared for complainant.

 

John Farrell deposed - On the 3rd of October, I was

putting in hay for Mr. Cotton, at Knockalaghta. John

Cryan came up to me.  He had a hay fork in his hand. 

He made several attempts with it at me.  I made for

Paul Hanly's house.  Mrs. Cryan caught a hold of me to

hold me for her husband and son.  They caught me going

in the door; they would kill me only for Mr. Hanly,

and Mrs. Cryan scraped my face.

 

To Capt. McTernan - I do not know what was the cause

of the row.

 

Mr. Paul Hanly deposed - I remember the 3rd of

October.  Farrell rushed to my door.  I was in the act

of eating my dinner.  There was a crowd outside.  I

separated them as well as I could.  I could not

recognise what they did to complainant, I was so

excited.  I did my best to "quell the riot."

 

To Capt McTernan - I did not hear of any cause for the

row.  I heard they said the night before they would

murder the complainant.

 

Capt McTernan - Where do you bury your dead down

there?  (laughter)

 

Pat Cryan (defendant) stated - My father told John

Farrell to bring on the butts of hay, and not be

giving them to Paul Hanly - that he wanted to head the

"cocks" with them.  He also called my mother a "pig"

and a "trough."

 

Capt McTernan - It is a row in a teacup.

 

Pat Hanly deposed - I remember the day in question. 

There were three of us on a cart of "butts."  I went

up on the load with Farrell.  Higgins was bringing the

"butts" to Hanly.  J. Cryan came on with a fork.  He

told Farrell to come down off the load.  John Cryan

struck the horse.  Farrell would not come down.  Mrs.

Cryan came up.  They chased Farrell.  I heard Farrell

call Mrs. Cryan a bag of dirt.

 

Captain McTernan - It was a miserable wrangle to bring

up.  Each of the defendants is fined 2s and 5s costs.

 

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Oct 31 1896 Roscommon Herald

 

A BRIDE AND HER FORTUNE

 

Mary Cryan, Mullinabreena, Tubbercurry, sued John

Grady, "Powellsboro,' for 16 pounds - 10 s, the value

of a heifer, 5 pounds for a promissory note and 1

pound for interest.

 

Mr. Godfrey Fetherston-haugh, B.L., appeared for the

plaintiff, and Mr. Fitzgerald for the defendant.

 

Mary Cryan swore to the debt being due, and in

cross-examination by Mr. Fetherstone-haugh, said -

Grady went to England after his marriage with my

sister.  I remained living in the house for five years

with his wife.  Grady helped to put a crop in the land

the first year, and her father, of course, got his

share of it.  So did Grady, who stopped for eleven

weeks in the house:  His wife was her sister.  The one

year he came home, he got his share of the crop, but

none for the other four.  He sent home 1 pound the

first year.  He brought an ejectment against witness,

who held possession till last July assizes.  Her

father had a cow and a heifer at the time, five years

ago, which he sold.

 

Mr. Fetherston-haugh said Grady got no consideration

on his marriage into this small holding.  These people

repented for allowing their daughter to marry him. 

Mary Cryan was to give up all claims to the place on

getting 5 pounds and a heifer, and Grady was to get it

under the agreement produced.  The Cryans, however,

took possession, and kept him out for four years 'ei

et armis' [?] until he got them ejected by a decree of

the Judge of Assize.

 

Grady said he married a daughter of John Cryan in

1892.  There was an agreement on the occasion of the

marriage by which he was to give to Mary Cryan the

heifer in his possession and a note of land for 5

pounds.  After setting the crop that year, he went to

England and returned home on Christmas Eve.  He

remained there eleven weeks, but did not get a bit of

the crop, having to support his wife and himself.  He

had to go back to England to support himself.  It was

only in last July he got into the land.  After the

marriage, he gave a two year old in-calf heifer to

Mary Cryan, which she sent to graze.  Witness never

had the heifer since, for Mary Cryan sold her.  The

father-in-law is one and a half years dead.

 

Mr. Fetherston-haugh said the agreement reserved a

right of sustenance to the old man.

 

His honor said 'prima facie' there was a case against

Grady, but there was constructive satisfaction of the

claim against him.

 

Mr. Fitzgerald, pointing to a rather haggard matron of

uncertain years, asked Grady did he marry this young

lady here.

 

Grady - Call her what you like (laughter).

Fitzgerald - She is 20 years older than you?

Grady - I suppose so.

Fitzgerald - You married this snug little farm?  Had

you any money the year you were married?

Grady - I had two good heifers.

Fitzgerald -And you expected by marrying this

respectable old lady - There she is there for anybody

to lok at (laughter).

How long did you remain there?

Grady - Eleven weeks.

Fitzgerald - Quite enought for a honeymoon (laughter).

Then you went away to England and returned on

Christmas Eve?

Grady - Yes.

Fitzgerald - You stayed a short time then?

Grady - I could not stay any longer.

Fitzgerald - And eventually you brought an ejectment

decree against your own wife, who had to go into the

workhouse?

Grady - She was only one night in the workhouse, and I

am paying for a place for her now.

Fitzgerald - Oh, but she is not living with you, you

got the farm and your wife is nowhere.

Grady - No matter, I have to pay for her.

Fitzgerald - Did you give Mary Cryan the heifer?

Grady - I did.

Fitzgerald - Was it you bought the heifer? 

Grady - My father bought it with my money.

 

Michael Grady swore he bought a heifer for his son,

which Mary Cryan got three days after the son's

marriage, and put out on Martin Mullany's land. The

heifer was sold at Ballymote September fair by Mary

Cryan and her father.

 

His Lordship gave a decree for 5 pounds.

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Roscommon Herald

7 January 1899

An Assault

Pat Cryan, Mohill, summoned Bryan Connolly, of the

same place, with unlawfully assaulting and beating

him.

Connolly had a cross-case.

Cryan deposed he was going down Mr. Reynolds’s

gateway, and Connolly was in holds with an old man

whom he did not know. He told him to let the old man

go, and when he did Connolly struck him, and they

knocked other [sic] down. Connolly afterwards followed

him down to the yard, to where he was working, and

struck him.

To defendant – I did not ask you to fight when you

came up.

Pat Reynolds deposed about 6 p.m. on the evening of

the 22nd, and they were both fighting with other. He

thought to make them settle it, but it was no good.

Defendant – You were there at the commencement?

Witness – No, I was not.

The cross-case was then gone into.

Connolly was deposed, and swore that he was talking to

the old man, and Cryan came up and asked him to fight,

and he said he would not. He asked him down the yard,

and when they went down, they struck other [sic] but

Cryan struck him first.

By the chairman – The old man is not here.

John Cryan deposed that he was passing down the

street, and he saw the two of them in the gateway, and

they both got seconders, and he was second for

Connolly.

Chairman – Tell us about the fight.

Connolly – When they went down the road, they made "a

shake" at other [sic], and Reynolds made peace.

Chairman – You will be each fined 5s., and costs.

 

 

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Roscommon Herald

16 December 1899

Assault

Andrew Crann prosecuted Thomas Hever and Betty Dyer,

Ballymote, for assaulting him.

Crann desposed he was in Mr. Keenan’s public-house,

and was standing at the counter, when Hever knocked

him down with a box, and then Hever and Dyer dragged

him out to the street, and both of them kicked him.

Himself and Hever had some difference last July.

Dyer – Did I not tell you that you were a foolish man

to be following Hever? – You did not.

Mr. Patrick Keenan deposed Hever and Dyer were in the

room of the public-house having a drink, and Crann and

some other men came into the shop. He refused to

supply Crann with drink, for he knew after the row

himself and Hever had at the sports, there would be

some disturbance. As Crann was going out Hever struck

him a box, and he (witness) shoved them all out.

Dyer – Did you see me do anything? – You told him it

was a shame for him to be raising a row in the shop.

Michael Crann, brother of plaintiff, deposed that Dyer

dragged the plaintiff out on the street, and both of

the defendants kicked him.

Hever – Did you not strike me outside the door? – I

did not.

Michael Price, for the defence, deposed he did not see

Dyer strike Crann at all.

Mr. Henn – Could he have struck him without your

seeing him? – Well I could not say.

Mr. Henn – Well, head-constable, what is the character

of these men?

Head-constable Macken said that since the 9th July

there is a bad feeling between Crann and Hever. On

that day Crann seriously assaulted Hever, since when

the feeling between them is very bad. The three of

them were regular pugilists (laughter).

Mr. Henn – What is the record against Hever? – There

is not much against Hever. He was up a couple of times

for drunkenness. I could not give Dyer or Crann a good

character.

Mr. Henn – I would certainly stop this rowdyism in the

town.

Head-constable – As regards Hever and Crann. I am

afraid there will be bad work between them yet.

Mr. Henn said they would fine Dyer and Hever 10s. 6d.

each. They would also have to enter into bail

themselves in £5. and two sureties in £2 10s. each to

keep the peace for six months, or in default go to

jail for one month.

 

 

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Roscommon Herald

2 April 1898

 

          The Election of Schoolmaster

The clerk said that with reference to the election of

schoolmaster on that day he thought some little

illegality might arise regarding the powers of the old

members of the Board to vote, and accordingly asked

the opinion of the Local Government Board on the

matter. This was the reply he received: –

                "Local Government Board,

                    "Dublin, 19th March 1898

"Sir – I am directed by the Local Government Board for

Ireland to acknowledge the receipt of your letter of

the 17th instant, relative to the proposed appointment

of a schoolmaster of the workhouse of Boyle Union, and

in reply to your inquiry I am to state that the

guardians of the present year will be entitled to act

on the 26th instant unless you shall have previously

made your return of the election of guardians for the

ensuing year.– I am, sir, your obedient servant

            "THOS. A. MOONEY, Secretary"

The election was then preceded with, and the

applicants were: Michael Joseph McHugh, Knockvicar;

John Rafferty, Battlefield, Ballymote; Peter McManamy,

Carrowcrory; Edward Cryan, Keash; James Tansey,

Gurteen; and Matthew Murphy.

Each of the applicants were called before the Board

and questioned as to their qualifications and

abilities.

Mr. Murphy said he had not a certificate of birth, but

he was about 24 years of age. He was engaged teaching

at a place called Annaghmore.

Mr. Quinn – I think we can take it he is 24 years of

age.

Clerk – I will have to state his age on the query

sheet.

Mr. Clark thought they could accept him.

Chairman – It is for the Board to say.

Mr. Mullany – It is for the Board of National

Education, and the Local Government Board afterwards.

He was accepted.

Mr. Rafferty stated he was for a number of years in

the Training College, Waterford, and produced a

recommendation from the Reverend Brother relative to

his conduct and abilities whilst there. He also

produced several certificates from educational

departments, including mathematic [sic], science and

art, drawing, etc.

The chairman said Mr. Rafferty had very good

qualifications.

Mr. Whyte – Have you ever had a school?

Mr. Rafferty – No; never, sir, except for acting for

others when sick.

Mr. Whyte – Why should a man not have a school with

such qualifications as you?

Mr. Rafferty – This part of the country is pretty

fully stocked with teachers, sir.

Mr. McManamy said he was 25 years of age, and was

classed second of third class. He produced

recommendations from Rev. Cannon Loftus, P.P.,

Ballymote; Rev. T. Morris, Naas; the Rev. Father

Scully, Keash; and Rev. Father Connolly, Achill.

Mr. Cryan said he did not know his age, but was a

second class teacher. He produced testimonials from

Rev. Cannon Kelly, Cootehall,; and Rev. Father Scully,

Keash.

Mr. Tansey said he was 23 years of age.

Mr. McHugh stated he was 25 years of age, and was

trained at Londonderry. He produced a recommendation

from Rev. Cannon Kelly, Cootehall.

After the candidates had retired, Mr. Whyte said he

had great pleasure in proposing Mr. McHugh.

He was seconded by Mr. Quinn.

Mr. John Kelly (Lisballely) proposed Mr. Tansey, and

he was seconded by Mr. Gardiner.

Colonel Cooper proposed Mr. Rafferty, and he was

seconded by Mr. McGettrick.

Mr. McManamy was proposed by Mr. Clarke, and seconded

by Mr. O’Brien.

Mr. Grogan proposed Mr. Cryan, and he was seconded by

Mr. Lynch.

Mr. Murphy was not proposed or seconded, but

eventually Mr. P. Mullany said he would propose him in

order to put him in the running.

He was seconded by Mr. Costello.

The voting was then taken up and the following was the

result of

        First Poll.

For McHugh: - Messrs. Whyte, Mulhall, Fry, Cogan,

Patterson, J. Mullany, Mulloy, H. Lawrence, Brady,

McDermott, Lindsay, S. Lawrence, J. McDonagh, Murray,

Higgins, Gillespie, McHugh, Quinn – 13.

For Rafferty: - Messrs. Lloyd, chairman, Cooper,

Crichton, C. Cox, Finan, T. A. Cox, Kelly

(Ballinameen), P. Mullany, McGettrick – 10.

For McManamy: - Messrs. Gardiner, Dolan, O’Brien,

Sharkey, Clarke, Gray – 6.

For Cryan: - The MacDermotroe, Messrs. Lynch, Grogan,

McLoughlan, Priest – 5.

For Murphy: - Mr. Costello – 1.

For Tansey: - Mr. Kelly (Lisballely) – 1.

Murphy, Tansey and Cryan then dropped out.

        Final Poll

For McHugh: - Messrs. Whyte, Mulhall, The

MacDermotroe, Fry, Cogan, Patterson, Lynch, Grogan, J.

Mullany, Mulloy, H. Lawrence, Brady, McDermott,

Lindsay, S. Lawrence, McDonagh, McLoughlan, Murray,

Higgins, Gillespie, Priest, McHugh, Quinn – 23.

For Rafferty: - Messrs. Lloyd, chairman, Cooper,

Crichton, C. Cox, Finan, T. A. Cox, Kelly

(Ballinameen); P. Mullany, McKettrick – 10.

For McManamy: - Messrs. Gardiner, Dolan, Costelloe,

O’Brien, Kelly, Sharkey (Lisballely); Clarke, Gray –

8.

McHugh was then accordingly declared elected by a

majority of 13 over Rafferty, and 15 over McManamy. He

returned thanks to the Board, and said he would do all

in his power to meet their requirements and give

satisfaction.

The Board then adjourned.

 

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Roscommon Herald

11 June 1898

 

            An Appeal

The first case was an appeal of Mr. John Priest,

publican, Chapel Street, Boyle against a decision of

the magistrates presiding at Boyle petty sessions for

an alleged breach of the Licensing Act, in which he

was fined 10s. In a second case on the same day, in

which he was fined a £1, he also appealed.

Mr. P. C. P. MacDermott appeared for Mr. Priest, and

Mr. St. Geo. Robinson appeared for the Crown.

Constable Higgins deposed in reply to Mr. Robinson – I

am stationed in Boyle; I remember the 26th April. I

was on duty that evening along with Constable McGarry

about 11:35. Mr. Priest had a licensed public-house in

Eaton’s Lane, Boyle. Whilst passing the house we

observed light, and heard talking in the bar. We

remained for some time at the door, and afterwards we

knocked, and were admitted by the publican. We found

two men seated at the kitchen fire – Michael Horan and

Edward Cryan. Both those men belong to Boyle. There

were four glass measures on the table beside them, one

containing porter, and another containing some liquor

resembling wine. I questioned Mr. Priest as to what

brought those men there, and he said they were his

servants. He also told me to do my best, and to test

the case. Horan said he came there to put up a lock

for Mr. Priest. Mr. Priest said they came there after

10 o’clock, and afterward he contradicted himself, and

said they were there before 10 o’clock. Constable

McGarry asked when had Mr. Cryan become a tradesman,

as he was formerly a school teacher, and Cryan said he

was Mr. Priest’s servant also, and he was putting up a

lock along with Horan. It is a new house Mr. Priest is

building, which is opposite the licensed premises, and

on which they were putting on the lock.

Mr. MacDermot – They say one story is good until

another is told, and we will get to the other side to

explain it. Mr. Priest told you to do your best, and

test it.

Constable Higgins – Yes.

And you thought it was a very nice case to bring to

the court? – No.

You are aware that Mr. Priest is building one of those

fine new houses on the other side of the street? –

Yes.

And there are several tradesmen working at it? – Two

to my knowledge.

Don’t you know that it takes more than two to build a

house? Do you know that Cryan and Horan work there? –

Yes.

Can you say at what time they gave up working on that

day? – No.

Mr. Priest told you they were his servants, who were

working late that day for him, and he brought them in

and gave them a drink? – Yes.

You saw one of them having porter? – No.

Of course, you did not see him take it off his head.

You saw one of them had port wine. He was having a

more aristocratic drink than the other man, who had a

glass of porter? – Yes.

Now I see by a report of your evidence in the

"Herald", you stated that you were thirteen months

stationed in Boyle, and during that time Mr. Priest

conducted his house well? – Yes.

Constable McGarry gave corroborative evidence.

Mr. John Priest deposed in reply to Mr. MacDermott – I

have a public-house in Chapel Street. I am building a

new house. Those two men are working for me. One of

them is a teacher who is classed, but has no school.

He is working for me as a carpenter. On this night

they were working for me very late putting on a lock

in the new house. I was anxious to get it finished,

and that is the reason they worked so late. I am in

the habit of asking them over to have a drink. Horan

is kind of a teetotaller. He only drinks wine. The

other man drinks porter. I did not get payment, or

intend to get payment for the drink. It was between 9

and 10 o’clock when they gave over work.

Cross-examined by Mr. Robinson. You are building a new

house? – Yes.

How many men do you have working there? – I have five.

Do you bring them over every night? – Well, no; I do

not.

You make an exception in favor of Horan and Cryan? – I

don’t bring them every night.

You had Horan on your premises after hours on the 28th

April, two nights after? – Yes.

How long were they working for you on the 26th April?

– They were working until some time between 9 and 10

o’clock.

Did you think that as a publican you were keeping

inside the licensing law by having those men on your

premises at half-past 11? –Yes.

You told the police they were your servants? – Yes.

You said Horan was putting on a lock? – Yes.

Did you explain to the police that the reason they

were there was to take a treat from you? – If the

police asked me, I would have told them.

You did not think it necessary? – No.

Did you lead the police to believe it was in your

licensed house they were putting up the lock? – No.

His Lordship – Now you seem to be a very respectable

man, and on your oath how often had you those men in

from time to time? – Well, I will swear positively I

had Horan in after 10 o’clock two dozen times since I

commenced building the house.

Why did you give them those drinks? What are their

wages? – Horan is earning 26s. a-week, and Cryan 23s.

On your solemn oath do you make any reduction in their

wages for those drinks? – On my oath I do not.

Michael Horan deposed in reply to Mr. MacDermot – I am

a carpenter working for Mr. Priest. I am working for

him eight months. I remember the 26th April. I was

working for him on that night until about half-past 9

putting on a lock. Cryan was along with me. After we

had finished Mr. Priest asked us over, and brought us

into the kitchen, and asked us what we would have. I

don’t drink anything but wine, so he gave me a glass

of Sedna wine. The other man had a glass of porter. I

did not pay for the Sedna, nor was there any reduction

in my wages for it. I was often in with Mr. Priest

checking over timber accounts.

Mr. Robinson – I suppose if you got a glass of this

Sedna wine every time you went there you would not

stir out of the place at all. – Possibly.

More fool if you would (laughter).

Edward Cryan gave corroborative evidence.

His Lordship said he would hear the second case before

he would give a decision.

The hearing of the second appeal was then commenced.

Constable Peter Dunne deposed in reply to Mr. Robinson

– I was on duty with Constable Kelly on the night of

the 28th April, about 11:30 p.m. I observed light in

the shop of Mr. Priest, and I rapped at the door, and

Mr. Priest admitted myself and Constable Kelly. I

entered the shop and found Michael Horan standing at

the counter, and a glass containing either whiskey or

wine before him. The moment we entered, and before we

had time to taste the liquor in the glass, he drank it

up. I asked Mr. Priest why he had this man on the

premises at that hour, and without answering me he

went to the window and took down a book, and commenced

to read the 54th section of the Licensing Act. I told

him he had better take it up with the court, and read

it to the magistrates (laughter).

Cross-examined by Mr. MacDermot.

He began to read the law for you? – Yes.

You did not listen to the law but went out? – We went

away.

Did you see the liquor in the glass? – It occurred to

my mind it was wine by the colour.

Did you go and look at it? – No. He did not give us

the opportunity.

Are you a tetotaller [sic]? – Sometimes (laughter).

Were you a tetotaller [sic] at that time? – Yes.

Did you ever take any of this Sedna wine? – I may

have.

Horan drank it, and the other man began to read the

law? – Yes.

Constable Kelly gave corroborative evidence.

Mr. Priest deposed in reply to Mr. MacDermot – On the

night of the 28th April, Michael Horan was working at

the new house, and I called him over to check a timber

account of Mr. Sloan’s, as he has more experience of

it than I have. While he was engaged in checking the

account, I left down a glass of Sedna wine, and then

the police rapped, and I admitted them. I did not get

any payment for it.

His Lordship – Don’t you see Mr. Priest what a mess

you have got into?

Michael Horan deposed that Mr. Priest asked him over

to check a timber account of Mr. Sloan’s, and while

they were engaged in going over it, the police came

in. It was a glass of Sedna wine Mr. Priest gave him.

Mr. MacDermot – Was it "fine old tawny" you got? – I

could not say (laughter).

Mr. Robinson – How often were you up for drunkenness?

– I was up once.

Mr. MacDermot – That is the reason he is a teetotaller

now.

His Lordship – On the whole I think it is an honest

case, and I will reverse both decisions.

 

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October 16, 1897

 

Assault in a House

 

These petty sessions were held on Thursday before F.B.

Henn, Esq.,

R.M., and

J. Hannon, Esq., J.P.

 

Asssault

     Michael Cran, Deroon, charged two men named James

Tonroe and William Snee with assaulting him.

     Cran deposed he was in a house of a man named Pat

Kerins, when Tonroe

accused him of stealing turf, and assaulted him.  Snee

also assaulted him.

     Tonroe - I have a few people to prove this man's

work.

     Snee - Did you follow me to the house?  -- I did

not.

     John Kerins deposed - I was in the house that

night.  There was a bit of

a scuffle, but it was worth nothing.  When Snee and

Cran came in, they had

some words, and were arguing with one another about

turf, and they struck each other.

     To Mr. Henn - I was trying to make peace.

     To Snee - Cran was arguing also; he fell on a

stool, but was not on the ground.

     To Cran - There was a sort of a scrape on your

face; I also saw blood on it.

     Mr. Henn - Did you see any blood on him before

the fight?  -- I did not, sir.

     To Tonroe - They were rushing at one another.

     Snee - Did Cran call me names?

     Witness - He called you "Flat feet" (laughter).

     A boy named Patrick Grady next deposed that when

Michael Cran came in to

Kerins' James Tonroe got up, and struck him.  They

then sat down after the

row for a few minutes until he went up and asked Snee

was it he told him he

stole the turf.  Whatever Cran said to Snee they got

in "holds," they separated again, but when Snee went to put a coal in

his pipe, Cran struck him.

     To Mr. Henn - Snee struck first, and Tonroe went

into the row, and struck Cran.

     To Tonroe - I did not see Cran come up and strike

you.

     To Snee - Cran was saying nothing to you.

     John Francis Molony deposed - When Michl. Cran

came into Kerins,

James

Tonroe asked him did he steal his turf.  Cran said he

did not, and Tonroe got

up and struck him a box.  They were jostling up and

down the house, and John

Kerins made peace between them.  Cran next walked up

to Snee, and asked him

was it he told Tonroe that he stole his turf.  They

jostled about too, and

when Cran got up they struck him, and Tonroe kicked

him.

     Snee - Did he strike me first? - No; he did not.

Did he call me out of my name?  - He called you a

"Blind scut"

(laughter).

     Mr. Henn - What is a "scut"? (laughter)

     A small boy named John O'Brien was next called

for the defence.

     Mr. Henn - Were you in the house this night?  --

No.

     Mr. Henn - Well, go down so.

     Mr. Henn - We have evidence that you assaulted

Cran, as his face was covered with blood, and the witnesses also prove it.

Tonroe is fined 5s. and

2s. 6d. costs, and Snee 2s. 6d., and 2s. 6d. costs.

 

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This article refers to my great great grandfather John

Cryan's retirement.

caoimhghin

Boyle, Saturday, October 24, 1896

 

Boyle Teachers' Association

     The usual Quarterly Meeting was held on Saturday

last, Mr. D. McLoughlin

presiding.  The following attended and paid their

subscriptions after their

names:  Mr. Cassigy, 4s.; Messrs. D. McLoughin [sic],

O'Rorke, Madden, Keany,

2s. each; Messrs. Barnes, Beirne, Kenny, Mullany,

Watters, Casey, 1s. each. 

The following sent in their subscriptions: Mrs.

Deacon, 2s.; Mr. Ludgate,

2s.; Misses Carolan, Condon, 2s. each; Misses Lane,

Cryan, 1s.; Messrs. Garahan, Flynn, Cryan, 1s. each.  The following

resolutions were adopted

unanimously:  1. "That we respectfully, but

emphatically, request the Treasury to pay us the balance of £72,000, admittedly

due to us under the Education Act of 1892, and, that we cannot accept a

subsidy of £10,000, a year to the pension fund as an equivalent, inasmuch as

the allocation of the

money for this purpose benefits future teachers alone,

at the expense of  present teachers to whom the money is justly due."  2.

"That in order to

encourage self-culture and to reward a most deserving

body of public servants, assistant teachers be paid the salary to

which their classification

entitles them."  3. "That in the interest of education

the average required

to entitle a school to the services of an assistant be

reduced to 60 and 50

in male and female schools respectively."  4. "That we

congratulate Mr. Cryan

on his retirement from the Board's service, and hope

he may be long spared to enjoy his well-merited pension."  5. "That we tender

Mrs. McLoughlin our

sincere congratulations on her recent marriage, and

wish herself and her

genial consort many happy years of wedded life."  6.

"That we congratulate

Mr. Beirne on his promotion to a principalship, and

wish he may be very successful in his new sphere of duties."  7. "That Mr.

Barnes be appointed treasurer of this association."  8. "That Messrs.

Casey and Keany be admitted members."  9. "That this association clear with

central funds for ten additional members." - F.J. Kenny, Sec.

 

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September 29, 1900

 

Ballymote Petty Sessions (Co. Sligo)

 

An Old Case of Trespass

 

     These petty sessions were held on Thursday,

before F. B. Henn,

Esq.,

R.M., presiding; H. Shaw, Esq., J.P.; J. Hannon, Esq.,

J.P.; A. O'D.

Cogan,

Esq., J.P.; J. O'Brien, Esq., J.P.; C. Graham, Esq.,

J.P.

     Michael Gildea, senior, Ogham, summoned Catherine

Cryan, same

place, for

the trespass of a cow in his aftergrass.

     Charles Gildea, son of plaintiff, proved the

trespass, and also to

giving up the cow to defendant's son, and demanding

trespass.

     Mrs. Cryan said she wanted Gildea to divide the

fence between

them.

     Thomas Cryan deposed that when Gildea gave him

the cow, he offered

him

whatever was the amount of the trespass.

     Mr. Henn - Did you offer him money? - No, sir.

     Mr. Henn - Well, you should have done that.

     Mrs. Cryan, in reply to Mr. Henn, swore the fence

was never

divided, but

they used to make it in conjunction.

     Gildea said he divided the fence with the late

husband fo the

defendant,

and had six men at it, and three men every year since.

 If she made her

portion of the fence as wellas he made his, he was

prepared to "swop"

[sic]

his part with her.

     The bench gave a decree for sixpence trespass and

costs, and on the

suggestion of Mr. O'Brien it was decided to refer the

division of the

mearing

fence to Mr. Charles Graham, Knockalass.

 

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January 21, 1899

 

The Identity of a Heifer (Extracts)

 

     Pat Cryan sued Edward Wynne, Moygara, for £10,

being the value of

a

heifer.

     Mr. MacCarthy appeared for plaintiff, and Mr.

Fenton defended.

     Mr. Fenton ordered the witnesses out of court

during the hearing

of the

case.

     Pat Cryan deposed he sent two cattle to graze to

Mr. William

Baker,

Redhill, Mullaghroe.  The cattle he sent were

yearlings.  He also had

conacre

oats from Mr. Baker and the cattle were grazing each

side of it.  He

laboured

the land himself for the crop.  He settled a gray

heifer on the 1st

May, and

a yellow one on the 9th.  It was about the yellow one

he was suing for. 

There were several yellow cattle on the land, but his

was a pale

yellow.  He

had no difficulty in finding out his own heifer from

the rest of the

cattle,

but from what he had heard, he was aware his yellow

heifer was not on

the

farm.  When he went to the place he met Pat Mulligan,

Mr. Baker's

servant. 

When he heard his heifer was not there, he went to

Wynne's place on the

3rd

November, and saw the heifer there.  He spoke to Mrs.

Wynne, and

described

the heifer to her.  He also saw Wynne on that day, and

he refused to

give up

the heifer.  They afterwards went to the farm

together, and on the way

Wynne

said - "If you had the first pull you would take that

heifer."  They

afterwards went to the house of Mathew Mulligan, and

he identified the

animal

that had been left on the farm as Wynne's.  He would

say his heifer was

value

[sic] for about £7 15s. or £8 on the day he saw her at

Wynne's.  He saw

the

heifer since, but she was gone back in condition.

     Cross-examined - Your heifer had a white tail? -

Partly.

     Did you tell Miss Baker it had?  -- I did.

     Mrs. Wynne told you her heifer had a wart on the

eye, and you said

"mine

had also?" - I said it was a strage thing the animal

had a wart on the

eye,

as mine had one.

     Did you know the heifer that was left on the

farm?  -- Yes.

     That heifer has a white tail?  -- Yes.

     On your oath has this heifer a white tail?  --

There is a certain

amount

of whiteon her tail.

     Didn't you tell Mr. Baker that your heifer had a

white tail?  --

No.

     Didn't you tell me a couple of minutes ago that

you told Miss

Baker you

identified your heifer because it had a white tail?

-- If I did, I

said what

was wrong.

     Didn't Wynne say to you when you told Miss Baker

that his heifer

had not

a white tail, that he would give you the one with the

white tail?  --

No, he

did not.

     Has your heifer a white tail?  -- She has.

     Mr. MacCarthy - You say your heifer had a wart on

the eye?  --

Yes.

     Is there a wart on the eye of te animal that has

been left on the

farm? 

-- No.

     You say there was a star on the forehead of the

heifer on the

farm?  --

Yes.

     And there is no star on your heifer?  -- No.

     Roger Tansey deposed de [sic] had a

year-and-a-half old on Mr.

Baker's

farm from last year.  Wynne came to him when they were

taking away the

cattle

in November, and said there were two strawberry

heifers on the farm,

and

asked him did one of them belong to him.  Wynne had a

strawberry heifer

there, but did not know the animal.

     To Mr. Fenton - It is about a yellow heifer this

dispute arose,

and not

about a strawberry one.

     Mrs. Mary Anne Cryan, wife of plaintiff, deposed

she knew the

heifer,

and saw her five or six times while on the farm.  She

always knew the

heifer,

and could pick her out from the rest of the cattle.

At the time of the

dispute she went down to Wynne's along with her

husband and daughter,

and

identified the heifer when she saw her there.  She saw

the heifer that

is

still on Mr. Baker's farm.

     Witness was not cross-examined.

     Witness was then cross-examined.

     Kate Cryan dposed she knew the heifers her father

sent to graze to

Mr.

Baker.  While the cattle were there she was working at

the oats, and

always

knew the cattle.  She went to Wynne's along with her

father and mother,

and

identified the heifer when she saw her.  There was a

mixture of white

on the

tail, and a small wart on the eyelid.

     Cross-examined - Every time you went on the farm

did you see the

heifer?

 -- I did.

     And examined her carefully?  -- Yes.

     Had your heifer a white tail?  -- All the tail

was not white.

     Michael Mulligan deposed he lived in Moygara,

which was only about

a

quarter of a mile from Redhill, where the cattle were.

 He knew Cryan

had two

heifers, and saw them while grazing.  He went down to

Wynne's house to

see

the heifer the dispute was about, and he would swear

that was the same

heifer

that Cryan pointed out to him on the farm as his.

     Cross-examined - Will you swear the same heifer

we have now is the

same

heifer you saw as a calf on Cryan's land?  -- I will

swear she is the

same

colour.

     Andrew Mulligan deposed he was herding for Mr.

Baker last summer. 

He

knew one of the heifers Cryan put on the land, and he

said "she was

very like

Ned Cryan's red heifer."  He did not know which of the

yellow heifers

is on

the farm now.

     Pat Queenan deposed he was a neighbour of both

parties, and

brother-in-law of Pat Cryan.  He knew the heifer and

went to see her. 

When

he saw her he said she was Pat Cryan's heifer.  He

suggested when he

went to

Wynne's to let out the two heifers and each of them

would take their

own road

home.  Wynne would not consent to that.

     Cross-examined - Before there was any dispute did

you go to see

the

heifer?  -- I did.

     Aren't the two heifers very like each other?  --

They are not.

     Martin Dwyer deposed he had conacre oats on Mr.

Baker's land quite

close

to where Cryan had his.  Cryan showed him the heifer

on the 5th June. 

He

went to see the heifer at Wynne's on the 4th November.

 He would swear

that

that heifer was the same heifer that Cryan pointed out

to him in June.

     Cross-examined - Do you swear who the heifer

belongs to?  -- No.

     John Cawley deposed he was uncle of Cryan, and

knew the stock

Cryan had.

 He saw this particular heifer on the 9th May, but did

not see her

since.  He

would say the heifer presently on the farm was not

Cryan's.

     Edward Wynne, the defendant, deposed he knew the

heifer, as he had

reared the animal himself.  She was on his own farm

until he sent her

to

graze on Mr. Baker's farm.  He saw the animal

frequently.  Before he

sent her

to graze, she had a wart on her right eye, and a

yellow tail.  There

was no

mark on her forehead.

     To his Lordship - There was no white on her tail

that I could

remark.

     Examination continued - Cryan and I went before

Miss Baker about

the

matter.  She told him to bring away his calf that was

now on the land

and to

pay the grazing.  She told him that Cryan told her the

heifer had a

white

tail.  The heifer on the land now has a white tail.

The heifer I have

now, I

pointed her out to James Mulligan, the herd [sic].  I

spoke to him

about the

wart, and suggested that a hair should be tried on it.

     Cross-examined - Which of the heifers is the

best?  -- I would say

the

one I have at home is the best.

     You had not conacre there. - No.

     And you had not the same reasons for visiting the

farm as he had? 

-- No.

     There is a difference in the colour of the

animals?  -- There is.

     Is the heifer you have at home white from the

bone of the tail

 

 

 

down?  --

she has a yellow tial.

     Is the tip of that heifer's tail white?  -- There

are some white

hairs

in it.  It is not white, but there is a little mixture

I think.

     Did you ask Roger Tansey to go with you to the

farm?  -- I did

not.  I

asked the herd [sic] which of the gray calves was

mine.

     Did you say to Cryan in going over to the farm -

"If you took that

heifer I would take the other one?" - No.

     Did Queenan suggest to you that the two heifers

be put on the farm

and

let them out, to see what road they would take?  -- He

did, but I

refused to

do so.

*    When did you first speak about the wart?  -- In

July.

     Has the heifer now on the farm a wart?  -- No.

     How much difference do you think in the value of

the heifers?  --

About

10s.

     Cross-examined -- I spoke to the herd, Mulligan,

about the wart

first.

     To His Lordship -- This wart was only about the

size of a pea in

July. 

I first noticed the wart in May.  I would say my

heifer is of a darker

yellow

colour than the other one.

     Mrs. Wynne deposed she knew the heifer, and it

had a wart on its

eye

before it went to graze.

     Miss Hannah Baker deposed the two men ___ before

her at Redhill

House. 

She heard ___ about a white tail, but heard Cryan say

something about

white

spots.  She said it would be better for them, as

neighbours, to settle

the

matter.

     James Mulligan, the herd on the farm, deposed he

saw Wynne several

times

on the farm.  Wynne asked him did he notice any wart

on his heifer in

July,

before there was any dispute at all.

     Cross-examined - Did Wynne ask you about the grey

heifers?  -- He

did.

     He did not know them, and asked you about them?

-- He did.

     To His Lordship - I had 32 cattle under my

charge.  Wynne asked me

about

the wart, and he said it was not much larger than a

pea.  I said I had

another animal with a wart.  I tied a hair on it.  I

thought it was

falling

off.  Wynne make a mistake about the grey heifer.

Part of the tail of

the

heifer on Mr. Baker's farm is white.  I never remarked

a wart on the

heifer

presently on the farm.

     Pat Mulligan deposed Cryan came down and asked

him where was his

heifer

and he told him she was in the bull paddock.  Cryan

saw some cattle

belonging

to Miss Baker and mistook one of them for his own.  He

told him it was

not

and he said no, that his heifer had a white spot on

her tail.  He

brought him

down to the paddock, and Cryan and the one there was

not his heifer at

all. 

He was there when Cryan brought his cattle there but

he could not say

is the

one there now his.  He could never detect any wart on

the heifer's eye.

     Cryan ___ in reply to his lordship, stated that

on the 24th June

he had

a conversation with Michael Mulligan about the wart.

     His Lordship - I could not doubt the evidence of

the woman.  I

will give

a decree for £8.

 

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October 27, 1900

 

Poaching

 

     Pat Cawley, Carrigeens Upper, prosecuted John

Cairns,

Knockadalteen, for

trespass on the lands of Mary Cryan, of Carrigeens

Upper, with dogs in

pursuit of game, on the 6th October.

     Mr. Fitzgerald appeared for the Game Preservation

Society to

prosecute,

and Mr. R. K. Tamplin defended.

     Cawley deposed that on the 6th October he saw the

defendant, who

is a

labourer, with another man in Upper Carrigeens.  He

was on the lands of

Mary

Cryan with two greyhounds.  The other person had a dog

also.  They ran

away

when they saw him, but he ran after them.  The

defendant had a hare and

a

rabbit under his arm, and threw them away when he saw

him.

     Mr. Tamplin said he would plead guilty to the

charge.  His client

would

give a personal undertaking not to interfere with the

lands in future,

and

not be the means of allowing his dogs to trespass

there.  He would ask

the

Bench to deal leniently with the case, as Cairns was a

poor boy.

     Mr. Fitzgerald said if he were a very poor boy he

did not see how

he

could afford to keep two greyhounds without intending

to make profit by

them.

 One point in his favour was that he never appeared in

court before.

     Mr. Henn said the majority of the magistrates

decided to fine him

7s.

6d. and costs, or in default, seven days imprisonment.

 He was sorry he

could

not agree with the decision of the magistrates, as he

would be inclined

to

impose a heavier penalty.

 

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Telling What They Did

 

     T. Hennigan charged T. Cryan with assaulting him

on the 16th July.

     Hennigan deposed - He came into the house and

caught me by the

neck, and

tried to choke me.  He also tore my neck with his

nails.

     Defendant - Did you tell the mistress that I

kicked the cow?

     Complainant - I did.

     Defendant - I only gave her a slap, and he went

and told Mrs.

Goulding

that I kicked her.

     Hennigan had Cryan charged with assault - him on

the 16th August,

because he told Mrs. Goulding that Cryan drowned her

dog.  He took him

by the

shoulder and shook him, and threatened to cut the head

off him with the

scythe.

     Chairman - We will take a lenient view of the

case, as this is

your

first time to be up here.  You are fined 2s. 6d. and

2s. costs for the

first

offence and 2s. 6d. for the second.

 

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26 August 1899

 SUICIDE OF A CO. LONGFORD FARMER

 THE INQUEST AND VERDICT

 THE CORONER AND THE JURY

 On Thursday morning the news of a tragedy of some

dire description reached Longford as having been

enacted the previous day at Ballinalee, and our

representative set forth immediately to investigate

the matter.  The details of the occurrence are sad,

and of such a nature as happily very rarely occurs in

Ireland.

 A man named John Crane, aged 45 years, a respectable

farmer of independent means, residing at Soran, about

a mile from the village of Ballinalee, committed

suicide on Wednesday by cutting his throat. The act

was a most determined one, as when Sergeat Tierney,

who arrived on the scene some time after the

occurrence, went to take the razor from the dead man’s

hand, he found it clutched so firmly that it took

considerable effort to remove it; and the unfortunate

man’s head was severed almost completely from the

body.  The news of the affair spread like wildfire

throughout the district, and in its circulation

assumed various aspects tending to make it more

gruesome still.  Father Connolly, C.C., Ballinalee,

was summoned, and proceeded to the place with all

possible haste, but the man was dead before his

arrival.

 On Thursday an inquest was held by Dr. M. D. Gray,

Drumlish, coroner for North Longford, and the

following jury – James Trapp (foreman), Michl Lee,

James Archibald, John Gilnagh, sen.; Myles McGill,

John Gilnagh, jun.; John Scanlan, Peter Maguire,

Thomas Reynolds, John Reynolds, William McLoughlin and

James McLoughlin.

 Joseph Cosgrove did not answer, and Edwd Coyle was

excused.

Coroner (to the jury) – Gentlemen, you will now have

to view the body.  It is a sad case, but not a

difficult one to inquire into the cause and

circumstances of the death of poor Crane.

The jury then went out to another room to view the

body, and on their return,  

John Gorman was first sworn as follows – I live in

Kiltycrovagh, and I am a brother-in-law of the

deceased.  I was working with him at the time of his

death.  I was the first to see him after his death. 

It was about 11 o’clock on yesterday.  I was over in

the fields reaping on Wednesday morning, and his

brother-in-law – his wife’s brother, was with me.  His

name is John Smyth.  I came over about 10”30 o’clock

in the morning from the field for a drink and I asked

Mrs. Crane where was John, and she told me he was

after digging some potatoes, and he came in along with

her, and came up to the room and ‘threw’ himself on

the bed.  She told me then that he came down again,

and was after walking out to the garden and she told

me to go out and see if he was in the garden.  I went

into the garden and looked up and down both sides of

the ditch and could not see him.  I then came back to

the cock of hay, and got him at the cock of hay.  He

was sitting up against the cock of hay, where the

sergeant saw him later on.  The life was only in him

when I found him at the time.

Coroner – How did you know the life was in him?

Witness – Well I found him breathing.

Coroner – Was it out on his throat he was breathing?

Witness – I only found the “draw” on him.

Continuing – He was lying back against the cock of hay

and his throat was cut, and I thought I would be able

to bring the priest before he would die, and I ran for

the priest.  I saw nothing in his hand at the time,

but there was blood on his clothes.  I saw his throat

cut.  I ran into the house first, and told his wife

not to go into the garden till I and the priest would

come back.  I told her “he was all as one as dead” and

I told her brother to come over and keep her from

going into the garden.  By what they tell me I

consider he was dead before I was at Ned Coyle’s.   I

came back to the garden, and saw his head hanging down

on his side.  He was not then the same as I saw him at

first, because when the life went out of him his head

fell down.  I then came in and got a towel and put it

over him.  I then saw a razor in his hand – in his

right hand.  I didn’t take the razor out of his hand. 

I didn’t go near him again though I was in the garden

until the police came.  The priest came before the

police, and he said he was with the deceased some

weeks before that.  He pronounced Crane dead at the

time.  He was ailing for some time before that – he

was complaining of a ‘beating’ on his heart.  He was

at the sea and when he came back, he complained of a

pain in his head.  He was attended by Dr. Mayne in

Longford or Dr. Cochrane, I am not sure which, but he

was with some doctore anyway.  He was with the doctor

a week before his death, and he have him a bottle, and

told him to go back that day – that was the day of his

death.  I saw him that morning and I noticed nothing

strange about him, and he was in his usual nature.  I

assisted to remove him into the house from the cock of

hay, where he was found. 

Mary Crane, wife of the deceased was next sworn, and

deposed – I saw my husband alive about 10 o’clock on

Wednesday morning.  He had been complaining for some

time of his stomach, and later it turned to a

“beating” on his heart.  He went to the sea, and after

he came back he complained of his head.  He went on

Wednesday week – the 16th August – to Dr. Cochrane in

Longford.  He was to go the day of his death again. 

Dr. Cochrane gave him a prescription and he got the

medicine in Wilson’s Medical Hall.  I did not notice

anything peculiar about him on that morning, or since

he went to the doctor; there was no change in him on

the days previous to his death.  He used to tell me

from time to time that he was suffering, and I thought

it was more imagination than real disease.  He used to

smoke a great deal, and used to drink a great deal of

tea.  They also said he was suffering from

nervousness. 

Coroner – Did he not go to five or six doctors?

Witness – He went to four.

Coroner – Well, that was enough to kill him!

Witness continuing – I was with him at the sea, and he

always ate heartily there.  We were back about two

weeks from the sea, and he was as well from that time

up to the time of his death.  On Wednesday morning he

went out and dug some potatoes for me, and I picked

them.  He came into the house then, and went up to the

room, and rested a while on the bed, and walked out

again, and that was the last of him I saw ‘till I saw

him dead.  When my brother-in-law came in for a drink

I asked him, “Did you see John out there?” and he said

he did not, so I told him see if he was out about the

garden, while I was getting the drink for him.

District Inspector Padwell, Granarl (who watched the

proceedings on behalf of the Crown) – Why did you tell

him to look for him?

Mrs. Crane – I wanted him to come to Longford to the

doctor.

-         What did he tell you when he came back?

-         He said John was nearly dead, and for me not

to go into the garden till he came back.  That is

all. 

Sergeant John Tierney, Ballinalee, was next sworn, and

deposed as follows: -  This occurrence was reported to

me at a quarter to one o’clock on yesterday by Tom

Murphy, of Soran.  I met him on the road, and heard

that the man had cut his throat.  Murphy told me that

John Crane was after cutting his throat, and was

dead.  Constable Muldoon immediately came on here, and

found him in the garden lying on his left side, and a

razor case at his right side, and about a foot or two

from his right hand, and his hat was on the ditch a

few feet away.  I told the people not to remove the

body till I got the permission of the Coroner.  I

wired to the Coroner, and he gave permission to let

the relatives remove the deceased into the house.  I

afterwards saw the body removed into the house.  When

I took the razor out of his hand, I took possession of

it, and I had it here – it is covered with blood.

Coroner – I don’t want it – it is a dangerous weapon!

Sergeant Tierney – It is, sir.

Coroner – I don’t know what you will do with it – I

don’t suppose there are many of the relative would

wish to keep it as an heirloom. 

Here some of the jurors began to chat in audible tones

in the corner of the room on some engrossing subject,

such as the weather, when the Coroner interposed –

“That will do! You are terrible fellows on the jury to

being to chat in this manner!” 

Dr. Maguire here started to write out the result of

his examination of the body, and while so engaged, the

Coroner, addressing Sergeant Tierney, said – “Who is

that man who did not appear?”

Sergeant Tierney – The man who served the summons is

here, and he has just told me it was not served

personally.

Coroner – It is not necessary to serve it personally

when it was served two hours previous to the inquest.

Sergeant Tierney – Well the man was not at home – he

was away at the forge, and they thought he would be

back.

Coroner – No matter – he should be here!

Sergeant Tierney – I would respectfully ask you not to

fine him, as he is a poor man.

Coroner – It would be better to fine him, and make him

jump at the tune of 2 pounds.

Sergeant Tierney – He is a poor man.

A Juror – He is a widow’s son, and his mother and

other brother are away in Longford and there is no one

at home but himself.

Coroner – No matter. If every one of you could get off

that way we would get no jury.

The same juror – Well, he is a poor man.

Coroner – He would be poorer when he would pay 2

pounds.  I will let him off this time with a caution,

but if we had only enough with him, we might be kept

until another day to proceed with the inquest.  

Dr. Maguire then handed in his written statement as to

what he found on examination of the body, and in it he

said – “ I have this day examined the body of John

Crane, who was apparently about 45 year of age.  The

body was fairly well nourished.  On the neck I found

an incised wound, which severed the windpipe and all

the arteries.  There were not other marks of

violence.  I am of the opinion that death was caused

by hemorrhage, due to the bleeding from the wound on

his  neck, which was caused by some sharp instrument.”

Coroner – Have any of the jurors any questions to ask?

Several Jurors – No.

Coroner – Well gentlemen, I suppose it is plain you

will find a verdict in accordance with the medical

testimony.

A Juror – Yes, we agree with that.

Coroner – Will you add that the wound was

self-inflicted while suffering from temporary

insanity?

Dr. Maguire – Yes, that would be necessary.

Several jurors said they believed the deceased was

temporarily insane when he committed the act, and the

Coroner wrote out a verdict in accordance, which was

signed by all the jurors, and the inquest terminated.

 

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Roscommon Herald 15 Sept 1900

 

A KEASH LICENSING CASE

District Inspector Fitzsimmons prosecuted Mr. Martin

Cryan, Keash, for a breach of the Sunday Closing Act,

on Sunday 2nd September.  Patrick Regan,

Treanmacmurtagh, and Dominick Sheerin, Tully, were

also summoned for being found on the premises on the

occasion.

Sergeant Conry deposed that on Sunday, 2nd September,

he was on duty at 3:15 p.m.  Before he entered the

premises of Mr. Cryan, he saw Pat McDermott, Mr.

Cryan’s servant, standing on the road in front of the

house, looking in every direction.  He was concealed,

and McDermott could not see him.  While McDermott was

standing on the road he closed on him.  As he

approached, McDermott made a burst across the road in

the direction of the public house.  He called on him

to stand, and asked him if there were any parties

inside, and he said no, that Mr. Cryan was in bed. 

When going to the door he saw Patrick Regan and

Dominick Sheerin at the bar through the window.  He

entered hurriedly, and met Sheerin rushing into the

kitchen.  Sheerin, when questioned as to his presence,

said he came there for sweets, and Regan said he came

for tobacco.  As he entered he saw Mrs. Cryan take

some glasses off the top rail of the counter, and put

them on a lower rail.

Constable Brennan gave corroborative evidence.

Mrs. Margaret Cryan, the wife of the publican, deposed

the two boys, Sheerin and Regan, came to the front

door, and she asked them what did they want.  Regan

said he wanted tobacco, and Sheerin said he came for

some groceries.  They were in the house only a few

minutes when the sergeant came in.  They asked for no

drink or got no drink.

Regan gave evidence as to having come for tobacco, and

Sheering as to having come for groceries.

Mr. Fitzsimmons, D.I., said there was another case

against Mr. Cryan for the same date, and perhaps they

would hear all the cases together.

Mr. Cryan was then prosecuted for supplying drink to

Joseph Walsh, Greenane, and another man from

Carrowkeel, on Sunday evening, 2nd September.

Sergeant Conroy deposed that on the same evening he

went, along with Constable Mulvey, to Cryan’s at about

9 o’clock.  They concealed themselves close to the

front door.  At 9:30 Walsh came to the door and

knocked.  He heard a voice, which he knew was the

publican’s inquire from the inside “who was there.” 

Walsh said he was a traveler, and was immediately

admitted.  About five minutes elapsed until the other

man came up.  He went to the front door, and went to

push it in.  Mrs. Cryan came and opened it, and bid

him “good night” and allowed him in.  He was only a

few minutes inside when he came out accompanied by

Walsh.  Mr. Cryan came to the door, and stood outside

for about two or three minutes, and the man who was

along with Walsh asked Mr. Cryan for the loan of his

horse to draw hay.  Mr. Cryan said he would give him

the horse, hands down.  He saw Mrs. Cryan go in and

draw some porter, which she handed in a gallon to her

husband, across the counter.  Mr. Cryan carried it out

to the door and called Paddy (meaning the servant boy,

Pat McDermott). “Here” said Mr. Cryan, “take that, and

be careful.” He saw McDermott take the gallon to the

road, and stand between Walsh and the other man.  They

got into a group, and as they (the police) jumped

across the wall, the person who was holding the can of

porter threw it up, and it fell on the hedge beside

them.  Walsh ran into the house, and he followed him,

and when questioned, denied he was outside at all.  He

asked the other man why he was drinking porter on the

road, and he said he was not drinking porter at all,

or saw not drink.  McDermott denied he took out the

gallon at all.  He (sergeant) showed the gallon to

McDermot, and asked him was it his, and he said it was

not.

In reply to Mr. Tamplin, who defended, he said Walsh

is a nephew to Mr. Cryan.

Constable Mulvey gave corroborative evidence.

Mr. Cryan was examined and deposed that Walsh is a

relative of his, and is every day in his house.  The

men did not ask for drink that night, or he did not

sent out any.  He was in the habit of lending his

horse to the other man, who, on this day asked him for

the loan of the horse, which he gave him.  He (Mr.

Cryan) asked him to have a drink, but he refused to

take it.  No porter left his house that night.

Similar evidence was given by Walsh and the other men.

Mr. Tamplin having addressed the bench, Mr. Henn said

as regards the first case, the magistrates had not the

slightest doubt there was a breach of the law

committed.

Sergeant Conry, in reply to Mr. Henn, said there were

two previous convictions against the house.

Mr. Henn said that in the first case they would fine

Mr. Cryan 1 pound and costs, and Regan and Sheering,

who were found on the premises, would be finds 2s, 6d.

each and costs.  As regards the second case, they

would fine Mr. Cryan 1 pound and costs, and order the

conviction to be endorsed on the license.  The two men

who were there on the occasion would be fined 2s 6d.

each and costs. He must say if he were trying the case

himself he would endorse both convictions on the license.

 

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April 4, 1896

Boyle Quarter Sessions

 

Damages for Seduction

 

     John Cryan, Culthacreighton, sued John M'Elroe

for the sum of £20,

damages for the seduction of his daughter, Catherine

Cryan.

     Mr. P.C.P. MacDermot appeared for plaintiff, and

Mr. W. J.

Robinson for

the defendant.

     Catherine Cryan deposed that he seduced her on

the 7th January,

1894,

and she became a mother on the 7th October, 1894.  She

denied having

ever

been seduced by any other person.  When she complained

to him, he

advised her

to jump off a wall.

     John Cryan, the plaintiff, said the defendant was

almost every day

in

his house - at least, four evenings in the week -

after coming from

Ballinameen with the post.  He first heard about his

seducing his

daughter a

few months before the child was born.  He then spoke

to him and asked

him

what he was going to do.  M'Enroe said he did not

know.  He met him

again

shortly afterwards when coming to the market, and

again he said he did

not

know what to do.

     Mrs. Cryan, mother of Catherine Cryan, said she

asked him what he

was

going to do about it one day when coming to Boyle.  He

said that he

knew what

he was going to do, and that was what he would do.

Her daughter told

her

that he said she should go in to the workhouse for

twelve months, and

that he

would then pay her way to America.

     Several other witnesses were examined for the

plaintiff.

     The defendant was called.  He admitted seducing

the girl, but

disputed

the time.  He did not care whether a decree was

granted against him or

not;

he would never pay a penny on it.  He would resign his

situation. 

Furthermore, if the decree were granted against him on

the process, he

would

proceed against Cryan for defamation of character

(laughter).

     His Honor said he was a dare-devil character,

and, from the manner

in

which he gave his evidence, an impertinent one.  He

would grant a

decree for

£10 against him.

 

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July 4, 1896

 

Outdoor Relief in Breedogue

 

     The Local Government Board wrote forwarding a

letter which they

had

received from John Higgins, Ballinvoher, Frenchpark,

relative to the

administration of outdoor relief in the Breedogue

electoral division:

-- "I

must respectfully beg leave to write to you regarding

the greatest

imposition

that has been used in the electoral division of

Breedogue for the last

three

years by giving Pat Cryan Ballinvoher, money at the

expense of the rate

payers of the division.  We beg to protest against

such being allowed

be the

division, Pat Cryan holds 18 acres 1 rood 7 perches

statute of the

cheapest

land on the estate.  By the allowance of reduction he

is getting, he is

paying yearly only £3 15s 3d for all that of land.  I

have known Cryan

this

present year to get £5 10s from Edward Neary, money in

hand for grazing

on

part of the grass.  I have known him to get £2 10s for

oats from Tom

Murren,

and before this in January £6 0s 9d for con-acre, both

money in hand

and on

the 1st May he got £5 for young pigs Cryan also keeps

an entire pig,

and I

calculate he makes £20 a year by that means.  He has

also a car, and

his son

and himself are earning 2s a day.  Pat Cryan had got

£3 8s some time

before

unaware of the ratepayers for his wife.  She framed

herself sick at the

time,

and kept so for a considerable time in hopes to be

bringing the money

off the

division.  Pat Cryan had at that time two stacks of

corn in his haggard

but

he wanted to eat his neighbour's share before his own,

and I say,

gentlemen,

he has a right to be make pay it back again.  I hope,

gentlemen you

will

caution the guardians of the Boyle workhouse to put a

restraint to

this, and

also caution the relieving-officer not to give money

to a landholder

such as

Pat Cryan.  He has applied now at present for £3 to

clothe his

daughter, I

supose for America.  I have known this girl could have

earned £5 for

the last

12 months at her serivce.  I was present when she was

offered £1 5s a

quarter.  She is at home with her idle mother during

that time.  Now

they

want the ratepayers of the division to give her

demands, which we

object to. 

I can state all this before the board of guardians in

Boyle."

     R.O. Banahan was called before the board, and

stated that, by the

direction of Dr. Coen, Pat Cryan's wife received l2

14s in provisional

relief

about four years ago, after her confinement.

     Mr. Cox said that the sum of l1 was lately

applied for by him,

with the

approval of a number of the ratepayers, of whom

Higgins was one, to

enable

Cryan's daughter to emigrate to America.  Higgins even

wanted to make

it 30s.

 Some John Higgins applied for relief some time ago,

and he thought it

extraordinary.  He must have had little to do, to sit

down and write

such a

tissue of statements.

     Relieving-officer Banahan said that the Cryans

never got any

relief but

the £2 14s.

     The chairman made a note to this effect on

Higgins' letter, and

the

discussion ceased.

 

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March 25, 1899

 

The Identity of a Grave

 

     Mary Kilmartin prosecuted Laurence McDermott,

Ballinultha, for

trespassing on a plot, her property, in a certain

graveyard.

     Mary Kilmartin deposed the last member of her

family who was

buried in

the plot was her brother, who died eight or nine years

ago.  This was

the

same grave in which McDermott buried his wife.  She

never gave him any

permission to use the plot.

     Laurence McDermott applied for an adjournment for

the attendance

of a

man named Hugh Rorke, but the case was proceeded with.

     James Cryan, Ballinultha, deposed he was one of

the men that made

the

grave for Mrs. McDermott's remains.  He could not

prove that it was the

same

grave Mrs. Kilmartin complained of now.

     Mr. Jones - Did you point out to this man the

place his wife is

buried?

     Complainant - No.  I did not, sir.

     Mr. Jones - Did you ask Cryan to go to the

graveyard and show you

the

grave in which Larry McDermott buried his wife?

     Complainant - No, sir.

     Mr. Jones told her to bring Cryan with her to the

graveyard, and

get him

to show here the grave he dug and in which Larry

McDermott's wife was

buried,

and if she could prove that was the grave her family

was buried, that

was all

they (the bench) required.

     The case was accordingly adjourned until next

court day.

 

 

 

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December 18, 1897

 

Mullaghroe Petty Sessions (Co. Sligo)

 

A Row Returning from Ballaghaderreen

 

Assault

 

     Patrick Casey, Shroof [sic], charged James

Flaherty (father),

Bernard

Flaherty (son), and John Cryan, of Clogher, with

assaulting him on the

1st

November.

     Mr. P.C.P. MacDermot, solicitor, Boyle, appeared

for the

defendants.

     Patrick Casey deposed - I was coming home from

the fair of

Ballaghaderreen, and when I was passing Thomas Casey's

public house in

Monasteredan those men attacked me.  James Flaherty

was the first one

to

knock me down, and while I was on the ground, John

Cryan kicked me. 

Flaherty

would life me up and knock me down against the road.

Young Flaherty

hit me,

too.  John Sharkey came to my relief, and took me

away.  Both Cryan and

Flaherty kicked me while I was on the ground.

     To Mr. MacDermot - Sharkey is my brother-in-law.

I was at the

last fair

of Ballaghaderreen.  I had pigs at it.  I did not go

into the yard to

look at

Flaherty's pigs.  We were friends up to that day.  I

did not assault

him that

morning, but we had a little difference.  I had some

drink taken, but I

was

able to walk.  Monasteredan is about four miles from

Ballaghaderreen. 

It is

my road home, but it is not theirs.  There is a public

house there. 

They

never said a word but knocked me down.  I was in jail

for an assault,

but it

was in the wrong.  I was also in jail for assaulting a

policeman.

     John Sharkey, a witness, deposed - About 6

o'clock on the night in

question I came out on the road from my own house.  At

Tom Carey's

public

house I heard the sound of a scrimmage and the

shuffling of feet.  I

went

over, and I found Pat Casey on the broad of his back,

and John Cryan

kicking

him and James Flaherty was striking him.  I went over

to make peace,

and

Flaherty took up a stone in his hand, and said he

would scatter my

brains if

I did not go away.  I took hold of Casey and lifted

him up.  I put my

hand

under his arm and brought him away four or five yards.

 He told me to

let him

out, and I said, "Casey, you will get killed here."

He then threw off

my arm

and rushed back, and he said, "James Flaherty, you are

duly a coward,

and you

are no man."  Flaherty struck him again and knocked

him down.  I

brought him

away again, and Flaherty's son came up and struck him

with his fist.

     To Mr. MacDermot - It was the noise of the

scrimmage drew my

attention. 

I took no drink that day.  I did not even take as much

as would go into

a

midge's eye.  I am Casey's brother-in-law.  Cryan and

Flaherty go home

by a

different way.

     James Flaherty deposed in reply to Mr. MacDermot

- I was at the

fair of

Ballaghaderreen.  Cryan carried my pigs for me.  I was

to pay him.  I

did not

sell the pigs, but I left them in Mrs. Mulligan's

yard.  I went into

the yard

to see the pigs, and I met Casey.  He had drink taken.

 He began

arguing with

me, and I told him to go away.  He caught hold of me

by a handkerchief

I had

round my neck and knocked me down, and he kept choking

me until I got

black

in the face.  The handkerchief had to be cut with a

knife for fear I

would

suffocate.  There were men in the yard who kept him

away.  He is always

drunk

when he can get the chance.  When I got home I was to

pay Cryan for

carrying

the pigs, but he would not take any money.  I brought

him out to treat

him at

Casey's public house, and I met Casey then.  I knew he

was going to

strike me

after what happened in the morning.  He ran up and

struck me a blow

which

knocked me down.  His brother-in-law tried to bring

him away, and

struck me

again.  Casey struck me several times.  I did not see

Cryan kicking

him. 

That is all I know about it.

     To complainant - I did not strike you first.

     Chairman - Did you see Cryan kicking him?

     Defendant - I did not.

     Chairman - Do you swear it?

     Defendant - I won't swear it.

     Bernard Flaherty deposed - I did not see the

beginning of this

transaction.  I was at the Ballagh fair.  Casey

knocked down my father

in

Mulligan's yard, and was choking him until he got

black in the face. 

The

handkerchief had to be cut off his neck.  After we

came from the fair

my

father brought Cryan in the public house to treat him.

 After they were

gone

I went out on the road, and I heard shouting.  I went

down, and I found

Casey

assaulting my father.  I went over and I struck Casey.

 The two were

striking

each other with their fists.

     Chairman - How far is your house from where the

row took place?

     Witness - About a quarter of a mile.

     Did you hear the row going on at that distance?

-- I did, your

worship.

     John Cryan deposed - When I went out to take the

treat along with

Flaherty, we found Casey standing in the middle of the

road.  The

minute he

saw us he made a blow at Flaherty, and knocked him

down.  The row

commenced

then.  Casey flung a stick at me.  John Sharkey

brought him away, but

he

broke back four times.  Flaherty was sober.  I had

some drink taken. 

That is

all I know about it.

     Chairman - This is a very serious row, and it is

a disgrace to the

locality.  There were three against one.  You will

have to go to jail

for a

month each with hard labour.

     Mr. MacDermot said it was all Casey's fault and

it was he who

commenced

the row in Ballaghaderreen.  Flaherty is a very

respectable farmer.  He

read

a letter from the MacDermot stating that Flaherty was

a very

respectable man.

     Chairman - Well, I will take a fine for the old

man, and as there

is not

use in making fish of one and flesh of another, I will

take a fine for

Cryan

also.  They are both fined £1 each, and the case

against Bernard

Flaherty is

dismissed.

 

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                surname, first name , int.  death city, death year,

Vol., Page

1911-15    CREAN    Catherine        Collins    Canton        1915  

 13    29

    CREAN    Cornelius    J.        Worchester        1914    110   

137

    CREAN    Dennis            Beverly        1911    5    180

    CREAN    Helen            Holyoke        1911    49    470

    CREAN    Hugh            Holyoke        1915    34    14

    CREAN    John            Montague        1911    70    234

    CREAN    John    H.        Peabody        1912    80    217

    CREAN    Marcus            Holyoke        1914    50    467

    CREAN    Margaret            Holyoke        1913    50    354

    CREAN    Margaret            Northhampton        1913    78    452

    CREAN    Margaret    L.        Salem        1911    87    37

    CREAN    Mary        Lehan    Canton        1911    29    10

    CREAN    Mary        Sullivan    Montague        1914    70    171

    CREAN    Mary        Collins    Springfield        1911    92   

306

    CREAN    Mary    L.    Wilmot    South Hadley        1915    73   

438

    CREAN    Nellie            Holyoke        1911    49    470

    CREAN    William            Canton        1914    29    175

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surname,     given,  middle,  (maiden)  death city, death year,

Vol.,Page

 

1916-20    CREAN    Bridget (Callahan)    Beverly        1920    5   

280

    CREAN    Cornelius    P.                      Chicopee      1918  

 20    453

    CREAN    Ellen        (Freeman )                 Lynn        1916  

 49    314

    CREAN    Ellen                                     Peabody     

 1919    84    123

    CREAN    James    J.                            Holyoke      

 1919    54    332

    CREAN    Jeremiah                   West Springfield        1918  

 127    72

    CREAN    Mary        (Caldon)    West Springfield      1917    93    

148

    CREAN    Mary                                  Westfield      

 1918    128    365

    CREAN    Mary    Elizabeth        West Springfield      1918  

 127    108

    CREAN    Mary    M.                               Salem      

 1920    90    179

    CREAN    Patrick                                 Holyoke      

 1917    36    225

    CREAN    Virginia                              Stoughton      

 1916    84    224

 From: "Rosalie Cryan" <RoCryan@hotmail.com> | Block Address  | Add to Address Book

Subject:          Fw: From Arthur Cryan's Family

Date:   Wed, 17 Oct 2001 13:03:36 -0400

Subject: From Arthur Cryan's Family

Family, friends,

 

Dad, pop, uncle, grandpa, papa and anything else anyone called him - Arthur P. Cryan, Sr. who was born in Lowell, Massachusetts on June 25, 1911, died in the same city today, October 15, 2001.

 

Thankfully he had ninety good years and a few bad weeks. He was conscious and aware until the end. After his most recent stroke which left him unable to communicate, he became somewhat frustrated with his inability to speak or write and stopped eating.  He died peacefully this morning at 6:30.

 

In keeping with his wishes, there will not be a wake. There will be a memorial service at St. Patrick's church in Lowell this Saturday, October 20th, at 9:00am.

 

His fervent favorite charity was the St. Vincent de Paul Society at St. Patrick's. Donations in his memory can be sent to: St. Vincent de Paul Society, c/o Fr. Spagnolia, St. Patrick's Church, 282 Suffolk Street, Lowell, MA 01854.

 

There will be a gathering of friends and family at the home of Terry and Peter Cryan, 56 Century Mill Road, Bolton, Mass. after the memorial service. Driving from Lowell take I495 South to exit 27, Rte. 117 Bolton/Stow. Turn right toward Stow at the bottom of the ramp on 117. In a quarter of a mile turn right on Rte. 85 toward Hudson. Exactly one mile from the start of Rte. 85 you will find Century Mill Road on the right. 56 is a third of a mile down the road on the left. Call 978/779-0723 if you need help.

 

Hope to see you on Saturday.

 

His family.

 

From:  Fatarm@aol.com | Block Address  | Add to Address Book

Date:   Fri, 2 Nov 2001 08:51:50 EST

Subject:          [Cryan et al.] Useful resource list for Roscommon researchers

To:       CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

The following was recently posted to the Roscommon County mailing list

on

rootsweb and may prove of use to someone on our list, so I thought I'd

repost

it here.

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

Subj:    ROSCOMMON-D Digest V01 #172

Date:   11/2/01 4:12:04 AM Eastern Standard Time

From:   ROSCOMMON-D-request@rootsweb.com

 

From: HMWEBBER@aol.com

To: ROSCOMMON-L@rootsweb.com

 

Subject: [Roscommon-l] Co. Roscommon Research Records

 

Hi list,

 

    I thought the following info would be of interest & help to

anyone doing research in Co. Roscommon.

 

Co. Roscommon Research Records

 

Census:

 

1659        =93Census=94 of Ireland.

 

1749        Parishes of Aughrim, Ardcarn, Athleague, Ballintober,

            Ballynakill, Baslick, Boyle, Bumlin, Cam, Clontuskert,

            Clooncraff, Cloonfinlough, Cloonygormican, Creive,

            Drimatemple, Dunamon, Dysart, Estersnow, Elphin, Fuerty,

            Kilbride, Kilbryan, Kilcolagh, Kilcooley, Kilcorkey,

Kilgefin=

,

            Kilglass, Kilkeevin, Killinvoy, Killuken, Killumnod,

            Kilmacallan, Kilmacumsy, Kilmore, Kilnamagh, Kilronan,

            Kiltoom, Kiltrustan, Lissonuffy, Ogulla, Oran, Rahara,

            Roscommon, St. John=92s Athlone, St. Peter=92s Athlone,=20

            Shankill, Taghboy, Termonbarry, Tibohine, Tisrara, Tumna.

 

1857-8  Griffith=92s Valuation.

 

1901        Census.

 

1911        Census.

 

 

Directories:

 

1824        Pigot=92s Directory of Boyle, Castlerea, Elphin, Roscommon,

            Stokestown.

 

1846        Slater=92s Directory of Boyle, Castlerea, Elphin,

Roscommon,

            Stokestown.

 

1856        Slater=92s Directory of Boyle, Castlerea, Elphin,

Roscommon,

            Stokestown.

 

1870        Slater=92s Directory of Boyle, Castlerea, Elphin,

Roscommon,

            Stokestown.

 

1881        Slater=92s Directory of Boyle, Castlerea, Elphin,

Roscommon,

            Stokestown.

   =20

1894        Slater=92s Directory.

 

 

Newspapers:

 

BOYLE.          In 1822 the =93Roscommon and Leitrim Gazette=94 was

                produced in Boyle.   The British Library has an almost

                complete set until its close in 1882.

 

ROSCOMMON.  The =93Roscommon Journal=94 began in 1828 and the British

                Library posses a complete run. In 1848 it was joined by

                the =93Roscommon Weekley Messenger."

 

 

Survey & Distribution:

 

        The Books of Survey and Distribution readily disclose the

    position in relation to the ownership of land in each barony and

    parish prior to, and subsequent to, the forfeitures under Cromwell

    and William III.  The names of the old proprietors, the lands

    forfeited, the extent profitable and unprofitable, and the areas=20

    distributed to the specified new owners are exhibited, column by

    column, in wide folios.  To date, the Book for Roscommon has been

    published by the Commission.

 

 

Miscellaneous Sources:

 

c1780           Names of the freeholders resident in Co. Roscommon.

 

1790-1799   About thirty lists of freeholders, some arranged by

                barony.

 

Ref: =93IRISH GENEALOGY A RECORD FINDER=94

 

                        Happy hunting, Helen (DCGS)

 

From:  "A. Riley" <ariley@ltp.org> | Block Address  | Add to Address Book

Date:   Tue, 20 Nov 2001 11:05:18 -0600

Subject:          [Cryan et al.] CRYAN-L: Atty's oldest daughter!

To:       CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

The story so far: Our ancestor Aracte McDonagh (Atty McDonough) was

baptized

at Aghanagh RC Parish in 1804, married John Cryan and had that marriage

registered at Boyle RC Parish in 1825, and had an army of kids, all

baptized

at Tawnagh RC Parish. The oldest was Bridget, baptized in May 1826.

Then

came Winifred, Sarah, Patrick, Mary, Mark, John, Timothy, Michael and

James

(not necessarily in that order). Sometime between 1846 (when the

youngest

child was born) and 1848, John died. Atty took the kids and emigrated

to

America on the ship Epaminondas, landing at Boston in June of 1848. In

1850,

she and her brother-in-law Mark Cryan and the kids were in Leominster,

Massachusetts, and by 1855, the whole crowd was settled in Wisconsin,

where

they flourished.

-- Except for Bridget. We never found any more evidence of Bridget's

life

besides her baptismal record. We thought that perhaps she too died in

Ireland, or that she married and stayed there with her husband. No

clues.

-- Until this week! One of our cousins visited another recently-found

cousin

and they went through the old family Bible. Listed in the family Bible

is

this: Bridget Crain McDonough, died Boston, November 22, 1849. Her

daughter,

Sara Jane, died Leominster, Mass., July 15, 1850. We don't have an age

for

Sara Jane.

-- Anyone have any info about a marriage between Bridget

Crain/Crane/Cryan

and a McDonough/McDonagh in Ireland? Maybe a baptismal record for Sara

Jane?

-- Every clue brings more questions!

 

Happy Thanksgiving to all,

A. Riley

Another proud descendant of Atty Crain

 

Reply-to:        "FamSpack" < >

From:  "FamSpack" < > | Block Address  | Add to Address Book

Subject:          Re: [Cryan et al.] CRYAN-L: Atty's oldest daughter!

Date:   Mon, 26 Nov 2001 10:45:35 -0000

To:       CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Hi again,

This is all that you give -

 

Bridget Crain McDonough, died Boston, November 22, 1849. Her daughter,

Sara Jane, died Leominster, Mass., July 15, 1850. We don't have an age

for

Sara Jane.

 

I think that I have already given to you the baptism dates of all

Atty's

children except Timothy which I do not have. I also have an Anne (bapt

10

Oct 1837) which you do not mention. If any of your dates are missing do

let

met know and I can sent it to you.

 

I do not have a marriage of a Bridget Cryan McDonough (or variations in

spelling) of the right age. I would have expected that Bridget(Atty's

daughter would have been at least 15 on marriage and therefore the

marriage

would be after 1841.

However I do have a child of a marriage Crine/McDonogh from Aghanagh

parish

which could be of either a sister of John (Atty's husband) or a brother

of

Atty or both. Your Bridget being about 4 at the time.

 

MC DONOGH Mariam

Female : Christening date 6 March 1830: Aghanagh RC

parents Jacobi Mc DONOGH and Brigidae CRINE

(obviously transcribed from the Latin (Mary or Maria, James and Brigid)

 

I can not find any other children of this marriage so perhaps they

emigrated

too.

I could not find Sara Jane in the records that I have.

 

If you could find them on one of the USA censuses or immigrant ships or

even

find Sara Jane in the BMDs (1830 -her death) perhaps one could find out

more

about the relationship.

 

I hope that this is helpful.

Eve

 

Date:   Sat, 01 Dec 2001 20:19:02 -0500

From:  "Leonard W. Crean" <lcrean@bellatlantic.net> | Block Address  | Add to Address Book

Subject:          [Cryan et al.] MA index 1921-1925

To:       CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

YEARS,SURNAME,FIRST, MIDDLE,MAIDEN, DEATH PLACE,AGE,DEATH YEAR,  

VOLUME    PAGE

 

 

1921-25    CREAN    Male                          Holyoke              

     1922    34    157

                  CREAN    Male                          Peabody        

          1923    66    358

                  CREAN    Anna    May              West Springfield  

     1921    78    481

                  CREAN    Charles    D.              Boston            

         1923    1    399

                  CREAN    Edmund    James        Northhampton          

1925    58    546

                  CREAN    Ernest    J.                  Cambridge      

         1922    10    367

                  CREAN    James    A.                  Peabody        

          1921    58    8

                  CREAN    James    J.                   Holyoke        

           1925    83    444

                  CREAN    John                            Springfield  

              1922    33    2

                 CREAN    John                             West

Springfield        1922    77    392

                 CREAN    John    J.                      Worchester  

            1924    92    13

                 CREAN    Mary                           West

Springfield        1922    86    183

                 CREAN    Mary         Mahoney    Worchester            

  1924    91    390

                 CREAN    Michael                        Springfield  

             1924    74    436

                 CREAN    Nellie                           Holyoke      

            1924    31    371

                 CREAN    Timothy    Charles        Northhampton        

 1925    58    503

                 CREAN    Timothy    Charles        Rutland            

        1925    66    418

 ********************************************************************************                                  

    http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YWC.2ACI/358.607.623.4205.1

Re: CRYAN,CORNELIUS THOMAS

            Author: Stephanie Stephens         Date: 5 Dec 2001 5:58 PM GMT

            Classification: Query

            In Reply to: CRYAN,CORNELIUS THOMAS  by:  r nPost Reply | Mark Unread | Report Abuse            Print Message Cornelius Thomas Cryan, b. July 27, 1890 is my grandfather. One of the twin boys, James Glynn, is my father. I don't know if this helps. Cornelius' father is Austin Cryan.

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From:  Fatarm@aol.com | Block Address  | Add to Address Book

Date:   Sun, 16 Dec 2001 21:23:12 EST

Subject:          [Cryan et al.] Received the following re: a Robert & Sara Cryan

To:       CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

From: Cryandm@aol.com

[Please reply directly to the author and to the list as the author is

not

presently subscribed]

 

"Looking for information on the following:

 

Robert T. Cryan, Son of Austin and Josaphine Cryan.  Austin was the son

of

Robert Austin Cryan who's wife was Sara (both from Ireland)."

 

Date:   Tue, 18 Dec 2001 12:35:58 +0000 (GMT)

From:  "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> | Block Address  | Add to Address Book

Subject:          [Cryan et al.] Roscommon Herald Articles No 52

To:       CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

 

To:       CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Thanks to Maureen McCourt Nantista for the typing

 

Roscommon Herald Articles No 52

 

Roscommon Herald

29 January 1898

 

A Row On The Road From Boyle

 

Patrick Dyer, Carrowcrory, charged Michael Cryan, of

the same locality, with assaulting him on the 15th

January.

Dyer deposed – On last Saturday week, I was coming

home from Boyle, and this boy was before me on the

road. When he came out and struck me a blow of a stick

on the head I afterwards got three blows of it. I

could not swear who gave me the other three blows, as

I was stunned at the first. I heard noise and saw

three or four fellows going away. Cryan was the first

that came up to me. I left Boyle that evening about 5

o’clock, and this occurred at 6:30. There was no one

with me, and I had only two glasses of rum taken that

day. I did not speak to him and he to me. The blood

from my head is on my coat yet. I can show the cuts on

my head yet.

Cross-examined by the defendant – I used not to be

[showing?] coming along the road in the evening.

John Cryan, father of the defendant, deposed he was in

Boyle that day and heard Dyer swear he had no drink

taken. He left him in Boyle that evening after 5

o’clock, and he was then staggering backward and

forward about the town.

Dyer – When I saw you on the street that day, did I

not shake hands with you? – You did.

Michael [...] stated Cryan never struck Dyer. He was

there, and saw a man on a cart, but could not say if

it were Dyer. Cryan was along with him as were also

James Cryan, Batty Brehony, Owen Brehony, and Roddy

Cryan; they all left Pat Evans’s together.

Mr. Henn – Do the police know anything about the case?

Sergeant B[...] – I made inquiries about the matter,

as Dyer’s son reported to the police. Mr. Henn said he

would adjourn the case to enable the police to inquire

further into the matter.

 

From:  "Michael Tobin" <tobinmi@hotmail.com> | Block Address  | Add to Address Book

Date:   Tue, 18 Dec 2001 16:10:51 +0000

Subject:          [Cryan et al.] New book on Keash

To:       CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Folks

 

A book on the history of Keash was produced by a group of people in the

parish recently and is on sale in the local bookshops. I hope to get a

copy

of it over the Christmas holiday period. I will send around further

info on

it once I have it.

 

If anyone wants me to get them a copy of it, please email me your

postal

address. The book costs £10 and postage will likely be from £3 to £5

depending on the weight of the book.

 

regards

Michael

 

Date:   Tue, 18 Dec 2001 22:38:34 +0000 (GMT)

From:  "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> | Block Address  | Add to Address Book

Subject:          [Cryan et al.] Roscommon Herald Articles No. 53

To:       CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

cryan-l@rootsweb.com

The Roscommon Herald

Articles No. 53

Nov 29 1890

 

The Ballinultha Feud Again

Hugh Rorke, of Ballinultha summoned his neighbour, Mrs

Honoria Cryan, for the trespass of a bullock in his

cabbage garden. He deposed that he gave up the bullock

to Mrs Cryan’s son.

On cross-examining by Mr McMorrow, solicitor, he

denied that the bullock was only a few minutes

trespassing, and he would have been there till morning

only his daughter saw him going in.

Mr McMorrow - You are a very troublesome fellow, and

fond of giving trouble to these people with the law.

Rorke (laughing) - Ha!

Capt. Peel gave a decree for 6d and costs.

Rorke’s son, James, summoned James Cryan for

assaulting him on this occasion. He said that Cryan

sat on the stile and challenged him to fight him, in

his barn. He was willing to fight him where he was.

Cryan then struck him.

Capt. Peel - There is a cross case against you.

Rorke - I was not served with the summons. I got it

only a while ago.

Mr Gillespie - Oh that does not matter, you are here

now.

Cross-examined by Mr McMorrow, Rorke said - The calf

was in our cabbage when this happened. On this day I

never threatened to pull him off the stile. I have my

story told now.

Did you try to strike him with stones? -

When he took a loy, I took up two stones in my own

defence, but I never fired.

Did your brothers, John, Patrick and Farrell, go out

to join in the attack on him?

They are only young children ; they held me, and kept

me from him.

Mr McMorrow - Go down! You must have been like a

raging lion when your own brothers had to hold you.

Hugh Rorke, the complainant’s father, deposed that he

saw the stream of blood coming down his son’s face

when Cryan struck him.

Mr McMorrow - You swear more than your son; he did not

swear that.

James Cryan was examined in this cross-case and said

that Hugh Rorke would not allow him drive the bullock

out on the gate of the field where he was trespassing.

The Rorke family then ran out with stones in their

hands and surrounded him, and he defended himself with

a loy. Hugh Rorke gave the calf such a welting that he

did not believe the calf would do any good.

Young Rorke pointed to a mark he had got on his

forehead.

Cryan - On your oath was it I put that on you?

Rorke - You renewed it. I got a blow of a flail

thrashing but you renewed it (laughter).

John Cryan was also examined, but gave his evidence in

a very stupid way.

Capt. Peel asked why did they not jump out the bullock

where he jumped in.

Mr McMorrow - He would want to be like Mr Nolan’s

jumping cow to do that (laughter).

James Cryan was fined 5s and costs, and the cross-case

was dismissed.

A case for trespass of goats against Hugh Rorke was

adjourned for the production of his little son.

 

 

Date:   Thu, 27 Dec 2001 14:43:10 +0000 (GMT)

From:  "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> | Block Address  | Add to Address Book

Subject:          [Cryan et al.] Roscommon Herald Articles No. 54

To:       CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

cryan-l@rootsweb.com

Roscommon Herald Articles No. 54

Thanks to Karen McElrath for the typing.

 

10 June 1893

 

“Mohill Board of Guardians”

 

“Never Wanted Relief”

 

Patrick Cryan, Furness, applied for relief on a plea

of destitution.  The guardians refused it on the

grounds that the man was able to work and called him

before the board to inform him of their decision.

When he came in he appeared very mild, and when

informed of the result of the guardians decision he

became enraged and excitedly proclaimed that he never

wanted the guardians’ relief and if he had to apply

again he would not do so.  They could hold it

(laughter).  He then departed.

 

The guardians then adjourned. 

 

Date:   Thu, 27 Dec 2001 14:44:14 +0000 (GMT)

From:  "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> | Block Address  | Add to Address Book

Subject:          [Cryan et al.] Roscommon Herald Articles No. 55

To:       CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

cryan-l@rootsweb.com

Roscommon Herald Articles No. 55

Thanks to Karen McElrath for the typing.

 

22 March 1902

 

“Weekly Meeting of the Roscommon Board of Guardians”

 

“Application”

 

An inmate named Crean having five children with him in

the house wrote asking permission to go out so as to

secure employment.  By keeping hem there it would be

only an additional expense on the rates.

 

Chairman – I believe he is a respectable man.  If he

was let out on pass for a while he might get a place.

 

Mr McGreevy – I quite agree with you.  He is a strong

and healthy man, and willing to work outside.

 

Clerk – I daresay you can give him a month. 

 

The following order was made – “ An inmate named

Andrew Crean having five children with him in the

house was allowed out for one month on pass to afford

him an opportunity of obtaining a situation.”

 

Date:   Thu, 27 Dec 2001 14:45:26 +0000 (GMT)

From:  "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> | Block Address  | Add to Address Book

Subject:          [Cryan et al.] Roscommon Herald Articles No. 56

To:       CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

cryan-l@rootsweb.com

Roscommon Herald Articles No. 56

Thanks to Karen McElrath for the typing.

 

7 May 1892

 

“Kilmore Branch (Co. Roscommon).

 

A meeting of this branch was held on Sunday, May 1st.

the president, Mr John Flood, P. L. G., occupied the

chair.  Others present – Messrs Pat Beirne, Thomas

Caslin, James Feeny, P. J. Connellan, sec., John

Caslin, Jas Hanly, Pat Neary, Pat Carroll, Frank

Murray, Thomas Healy, Pat Fitzsimons, John Conlon.

After enrolling several new members, the Chairman gave

some practical instructions with regard to

registration.  He pointed out how necessary it was to

have the Franchise papers properly filled, and hoped

every man favourable to the National cause, who is

entitled to vote, will see and have his name on the

register.  Dominick Cryan, an evicted tenant, came

before the meeting with a letter from our Parnellite

neighbours, addressed to the chairman, asking us to

sanction a grant of £2 out of the Evicted tenants’

Fund towards Dominick.  This case was discussed some

twelve months ago before, and as we from start to

finish admitted the justice of Dominick's claim, and

as our Parnellite neighbours were not able to meet us

half way and relieve him out of the local funds, the

committee unanimously agreed to sanction the grant.

Other routine business was disposed of, and the

meeting adjourned to Sunday, 15th inst, after Mass.–

P. J. Connellan, hon. Sec.    

 

 

 

From:  Sligoronan@aol.com | Block Address  | Add to Address Book

Date:   Fri, 28 Dec 2001 19:07:47 EST

Subject:          derrygola

To:       caoimhghin@yahoo.com, Fatarm@aol.com

Hi my name is ronan higgins I just resonantly immigrated to USA

i was messing around on the computer the other night and decided to put higgins derrygola in to a search engine and found this info to come up

((Son: Patrick J. died 9 July 1978. Derrygola (correct spelling on gravestone). ****. ... whose.

mother is Maria HIGGINS of the information that I gave from the parish. ...))

 

i have wandered down through the web page and seen a lot of name i recinosied or local people from around home a lot are dead now but was wondering what it was all about  

is some body trying to contact the higgins or find out about Maria

it says she died in 1978   i was born in 78 but if any body is looking for info about higgins or derrygola or local people my dad knows a lot of people in keash and culfada with plently local genogolegy

 

Ps please get back to me and explain what it all about or forward me to some one that can explain  

thank  you

 

                     ronan higgins

 

Date:   Sat, 29 Dec 2001 15:24:08 +0000 (GMT)

From:  "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> | Block Address  | Add to Address Book

Subject:          [Cryan et al.] Roscommon Herald Articles No. 57

To:       CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

cryan-l@rootsweb.com

Roscommon Herald Articles No. 57

Thanks to Karen Mc Elrath for the typing.

 

Roscommon Herald 22 August 1891

Frenchpark Petty Sessions

 

The presiding magistrates at his court on Friday were

– Capt McTernan, R. M., and the Hon. John French, J.

P.

 

Assault

 

The Crown at the suit of district Inspector Feely

prosecuted named Lowe for assaulting M. Beirne.

 

Mr MacDermot, solicitor, appeared for the defence.

 

Old Beirne deposed that his son, Malachi Beirne, who

was assaulted, could not attend as he was at

Strand-hill.  He and his son were cleaning a bank on

the 6th of June, James Lowe and John Lowe came and

began to remove the turf.  His son went to prevent

them.  James Lowe rushed at him and knocked him down.

John Lowe struck him with a spade on the side of the

head inflicting a deep wound from the effects of which

he lay for some weeks.  James Lowe caught him

(witness) by the throat, and having thrown him kicked

him in the face.

 

Cross-examined by Mr MacDermot – I did not know

whehter the place where I was cutting was within

Lowe’s boundary as both claimed it.

 

Bridget Cryan was examined for the defence.  She

deposed that she saw the Lowes throwing Beirne’s turf

back from where it was.  Beirne came over with a slane

in his hand.  Lowe met him and caught hold of the

slane.  Four men then came on the scene, and from that

she did not know who was striking.  She saw a cut on

Lowe’s breast aftewards [sic] as if from the wing of a

slane. 

 

Patrick Lowe and Michael Cryan gave similar evidence.

 

It was mentioned that the money which Beirne was to

receive from Lowe was in bank.

 

Capt. McTernan suggested that the case be adjourned

for a fortnight.

 

Mr MacDermot requested that no more petty evidence be

taken.

 

Capt. McTernan said if a settlement were not arrived

at during the interval he would give his decision

without further evidence. 

 

 

Date:   Sat, 29 Dec 2001 15:25:26 +0000 (GMT)

From:  "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> | Block Address  | Add to Address Book

Subject:          [Cryan et al.] Roscommon Herald Articles No. 58

To:       CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

cryan-l@rootsweb.com

Roscommon Herald Articles No. 58

Thanks to Karen Mc Elrath for the typing.

 

Roscommon Herald 16 July 1892

 

Boyle Petty Sessions

 

The presiding magistrates at the court on Wednesday

last were – R. G. Bull, R. M., and Capt McTernan, R.

M.

 

A Ballinultha Row

 

Hugh Rorke, of Ballinultha, summoned his neighbour,

James Cryan, for breaking down his fence and injuring

his crops.  There was also a cross-case.

 

Mr MacDermot appeared for Rorke, and Mr Robinson for

Cryan.

 

Hugh Rorke deposed that on the 21st of April James

Cryan threw his mearing on his crop.  He also

attempted to throw a stone on him 2 1D 2 cwt weight.

Cryan threw stones on his (Rorke s) oats and potatoes.

 The mearing between them was divided eighty years

ago.  Cryan had no reason to interfere with it only

for his bad temper.

John Rorke, Pat Rorke and James Rorke gave

corroborative evidence.

 

Mrs Cryan deposed that the gate on her mearing wall

was thrown by the Rorkes.  Her husband always made up

the fence.  There was a wooden post put down as a

pier, and Rorke took the whole thing away.   The

mearing was hers, and on a former occasion Rorke

summoned her for sheep crossing it. 

 

Mr MacDermott [sic] – And take it for granted that it

is your mearing, your son was not justified in

throwing stones into the man’s crops.

 

Mr Bull said Cryan should pay 5s fine, 10s

compensation and costs. 

 

The cross-case was then gone into when it was shown

that the Rorkes maliciously broke the capstone of the

pier.

 

Denis Loughna, Boyle, deposed that he was at the

place.  There was nothing injured but the capstone of

the pier.  The gate was a little injured.

 

James Beirne deposed that half the gate was broken.

 

To Mr MacDermot – I live nearly three miles from the

place.  I am a brother to Mrs Cryan.

 

Mr MacDermot – She went far to get a witness.  Your

evidence will be taken for what it is worth.

 

The Bench imposed a fine of five shillings, ten

shillings compensation and costs.

 

Assault

 

Arising out of the above case, James Cryan summoned

James Rorke for assaulting him on the 21st of April.

 

Cryan deposed that when he was going to remove the

capstone Rorke jumped on his hand, and assaulted him.

Rorke followed him to his own door wanting him to

fight, and he had nine others with him.

 

To Mr MacDermot – I would have summoned him before

this but my attorney was away.  I was bound to the

peace the last court day and fined.

 

Several witnesses were examined for the defence. 

 

An old man named Rorke deposed that defendant did not

put hand or foot on Cryan.  Cryan would swear the

“sowl” [sic] out of his body to get satisfaction

(laughter). 

 

The case was dismissed.

 

 

Date:   Sat, 29 Dec 2001 15:30:34 +0000 (GMT)

From:  "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> | Block Address  | Add to Address Book

Subject:          [Cryan et al.] Hi

To:       CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Hi

Happy Christmas and New Year to everyone. I am nearing

the end of the articles already researched and would

like to thank everyone who helped with the typing. We

have got through a huge amount of work and I hope it

has been beneficial for at least some people out

there.

I will be going back to the National Library next week

so there will be more on their way soon!

regards to all

caoimhghin

 

Date:   Sun, 30 Dec 2001 11:40:35 +0000 (GMT)

From:  "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> | Block Address  | Add to Address Book

Subject:          [Cryan et al.] results of a little surfing

To:       CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Check out this website ………………..

for definite Cryan et al references

 

Centre for Lowell History

http://libweb.uml.edu/clh/Vital.Html

 As part of an effort to document Lowell's History, a

small but determined group of volunteers is indexing

vital records from local newspapers.  Currently

available are Obituary Index 1900-1934; Birth Index

1915-1935 and Marriage Intentions Index 1901-1930 and

1957.

Birth Index

http://libweb.uml.edu/clh/BirInd.Html

Marriage Intentions Index

http://libweb.uml.edu/clh/MarInd.Html

Death Index

http://libweb.uml.edu/clh/DeaInd.Html

 

 

check this out for a Michael Cryan

US - UNION VETERANS AND WIDOWS OF VETERANS OF THE

CIVIL WAR

http://libweb.uml.edu/clh/A1890.Html

As a substitute for the 1890 US Population Census a

listed of the names, organizations, and length of

service of surviving soldiers, sailors and marines,

and the widows of soldiers, sailors and, marines.  The

Center produced a name index to the Union Civil War

veteran's schedule of 1890

 

 

 

If this was me Id invite you all around for a drink!!

 

http://www.protzonbeer.com/documents/27660-001269.html

Award-winning pubs 19 Sept 2000

The Wharf, Wharf 10, Walsall, West Midlands

Brown's, Earl Street, Coventry, West Midlands

Station Buffet, Platform One, Stalybridge Station,

Market Street, Stalybridge, Greater Manchester

Fat Cat, 49 West End Street, off Dereham Road,

Norwich, Norfolk

Plough and Harrow, Monknash, South Glamorgan, Wales

The Wharf, Wharf 10, Walsall, West Midlands. Off A34 &

M6 (01922 613100)

The Wharf has won a rare award -- top in the 1998 'New

Build' category in the annual Pub Design Awards run by

English Heritage and the Campaign for Real Ale. The

award is rare, for it's the first time in 14 years

that a prize for a new pub design has been made. As

one of the judges, Dr Steven Parissien of the Paul

Mellon Centre, said in his citation: 'Most new pubs

were either couched as veneered bunkers or heritage

horrors. This past year, however, some pub owners

appear to have summoned the courage and foresight to

combine the familiar virtues of the public house with

the best of modern design.' The pub is owned by the

local Highgate and Walsall Brewing Company, run on a

shoe-string following a management buy-out from mighty

Bass, and the new owners richly deserve the award. For

those steeped in mock-Tudor and fake beams, the Wharf

will come as something of a shock. It stands in the

revitalised waterside Wharf area of Walsall and is

alongside the new Lottery-funded Art Gallery. The pub

is single storey with a large pitched roof, tiled

gable ends and plain windows giving good views of the

waterfront. Dr Parissien says the interior is 'defined

by a Scandinavian-style use of pale wood and by a

back-to-basics approach to fixtures and fittings.

There are no heritage blackboards, only graphics

painted directly on to wood, brick or glass, while the

seating is simple, honest and functional'. It's an

open-plan pub and landlord Kevin Cryan says it was

designed to be multi-functional, with a mobile stage

for live music at weekends and intimate areas during

the week. 'We wanted to break down the barriers that

exist in most pubs,' he said. 'It's female-friendly

for a start and it's popular with students who drop in

to do their homework over a coffee. Others play

chess.' The Wharf opens at 10am for late breakfast and

there is bistro-style food during the rest of the day

with such dishes as lamb cutlets in a silver onion

sauce, pan-fried cod on potato cake, and whole baked

peppers with mushroom risotto. The Highgate Brewery

beers include its famous Dark Mild, plus Saddlers

Bitter and such seasonal beers as Breacais, a beer

brewed with whisky malt.

 

 

From:  "Helen Cryan" <HCRYAN@MN.RR.COM> | Block Address  | Add to Address Book

To:       "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>

Subject:          Cryan Genealogy

Date:   Sun, 30 Dec 2001 20:33:52 -0000

Dear Kevin,

I am indeed interested in doing some research, especially about my family and if possible, my family history. I know that there are many people with the last name of Cryan and I would like to find out those who are related to me. My family originates from New Jersey, if thats any help.

 

         Helen Cryan

 

Date:   Sun, 30 Dec 2001 20:43:52 +0000 (GMT)

From:  "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> | Block Address  | Add to Address Book

Subject:          [Cryan et al.] Roscommon Herald Articles No. 59

To:       CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

cryan-l@rootsweb.com

Roscommon Herald Articles No. 59

 

13-6-1896

Boyle Board of Guardians

Assisted Emigration

The Local Government Board approved of the grant to

Ellen Cryan to assist her to emigrate.

 

 

Date:   Sun, 30 Dec 2001 20:45:12 +0000 (GMT)

From:  "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> | Block Address  | Add to Address Book

Subject:          [Cryan et al.] Roscommon Herald Articles No. 60

To:       CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Roscommon Herald Articles No. 60

 

13-6-1896

Antics of Ball-Alley Birds

Betty Mahady of the Ball-Alley summoned Mary Crane and

her daughter for beating her with stones, kicking her,

and generally maltreating her. She swore she could not

go outside her own door without being called the

vilest names in the inexhaustible dictionary of abuse.

Head-constable Clarke gave the defendants a very bad

character, and the magistrates ordered the Cranes to

be removed from the vicinity for 14 days, and in order

that they might not feel time hanging on their hands,

they are to be employed picking oakum.

 

 

Date:   Mon, 31 Dec 2001 09:07:54 -0500

Subject:          Re: Cryan Genealogy - thank you

From:  "Philip Cryan Marshall" <philip@epreservation.net> | Block Address  | Add to Address Book

To:       "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>

Dear Kevin,

 

Thanks you so much for your e-mail. Indeed, there is good reason I use

my

mother's maiden name, my middle one -- a fine one, indeed. I look

forward to

spending time on your web site, and Cryan Community. From a brief

perusal of

your bio, you live up to our namesake.

 

Take care,

 

Philip

 

Philip Cryan Marshall, Associate Professor, Historic Preservation

Program

School of Architecture, Art & Historic Preservation

Roger Williams University, Bristol, Rhode Island 02809

Tel 401.254.3061, Fax 401.254.3501

Email pmarshall@rwu.edu

 

From:  JCryan@UTNet.UToledo.Edu | Block Address  | Add to Address Book

To:       caoimhghin@yahoo.com

CC:     Raand29@aol.com

Subject:          RE: Cryan Genealogy

Date:   Mon, 31 Dec 2001 12:36:57 -0500

Dear Kevin,

Such a coincidence - I was just talking with members of my family of

the

need to get our history more together with the older ones passing on

and

us not keeping very good notes. I would indeed like to join your group.

I shall check out the web site as soon as I can get out from under my

mid-semester break paper work. My sister Anne Fox-Clarkson's (nee

Cryan)

email address is Raand29@aol.com. She too will be interested to join I

suspect.

Regards,

Bob Cryan

 

-----Original Message-----

From: Caoimhghin O Croidheain [mailto:caoimhghin@yahoo.com]

Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2001 6:46 AM

To: jcryan@utnet.utoledo.edu; hcryan@mn.rr.com; banshee412@yahoo.com;

pcm@alpha.rwu.edu

Subject: Cryan Genealogy

 

 

Hi

I got these addresses from a web surf. I am purely

interested in informing you of a Cryan mailing list

[the contents of which are on my site at

geocities.com/caoimhghin]

If you are interested in doing some family history and

would like to join the hundred or so researchers on

the list we would love to have you on board.

[All is free]

Caoimhghin O Croidheain

[Kevin Cryan]

I will not contact you again or give these addresses

to anyone else.

 

Date:   Tue, 1 Jan 2002 16:42:53 +0000 (GMT)

From:  "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> | Block Address  | Add to Address Book

Subject:          [Cryan et al.] Roscommon Herald Articles No. 61

To:       CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

 

Roscommon Herald Articles No. 61

22-10-1898

The Master’s Report

The Master (Mr Cox) reported as follows - “A woman

named Mrs Lenehan, a native of this Union, was

transferred here from Ballinasloe asylum on yesterday.

She intends to remain a few days, and will then leave

for America, she having her passage paid and bank

draft for £3 sent to her by her friends. The school

boys were out for exercise three times, and the girls

twice during the week. A man named Cryan applies for

his two children. They are in the house sine the 12th

of March, 1894. Their old clothes are worthless.”

Mr Clarke - That is a man I know.

Chairman - The man is perfectly right to take his

children, and we have no right to keep them from him.

Clerk -  By an order of the Board you can give them,

but not otherwise.

Mr Stuart - Do you mean to say we have no power to

give them to their parents?

Clerk - Not until the Master discharges them.

Mr Mullaney -  The Board who should be willing to let

them out. Is there any discussion about the clothes?

Chairman - Would it not be better to let them go, and

give them the clothes than keep them here?

Mr Mullaney inquired where would they be charged to.

The Master said they were from the Templevanny

division.

The clerk said they would be charged according to the

collective number of days.

Chairman - The doctor thinks it is better to let them

go. It saves the rates even if you do pay a few

shillings for clothes.

Mr Lindsay - Let them go.

Mr Clarke said there were other people who got

clothes, and they were Union charges.

Mr Stuart - This is practically a Union charge.

Clerk - It is no such thing.

Mr Stuart - Is it to go on Templevanny?

Clerk - It is to gon [sic] the collective number of

days.

Mr Clarke suggested to allow them £2 for clothes.

This was agreed to.

 

 

From:  "keith croghan" <keithcroghan@hotmail.com> | Block Address  | Add to Address Book

Date:   Tue, 01 Jan 2002 21:46:55 +0000

Subject:          [Cryan et al.] CROGHAN

To:       CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

HELLO TO ALL ME POSSIBLE CLAN`S FOLK,

I JUST JOINED THE MAILING LIST AND AM WONDERING IF

THERE ARE ANY CROGHAN`S OUT THERE.

                WHILE WORKING ON MAKING A FAMILY TREE I

HIT A DEAD END AT MY GREAT GREAT GRANDFATHER-

JOHN CROGHAN B. 1845. HE MARRIED ANNIE WINEFRED

COOK IN 1872 SAINT AUGUSTINES CHAPEL DISTRICT OF MANCHESTER

CO. LANCASTER.  HIS MOTHER WAS A MACDERMOTT

AND HER`S WAS A BURROWS.JOHN CROGHAN DIED IN 1910.

 

I BELIVE THEY WERE FROM CO. ROSCOMMON BECOUSE OF ALL THE ROSCOMMON

HEARLD

CLIPPING`S IN HIS SCRAP BOOK.ASWELL AS SOME LIMERICKS WITH THE SURNAME

CROGHAN THAT REFER TO CO. ROSCOMMON.

 

THEIR CHILDREN WERE AS FOLLOW`S

JOHN SAMEUL- MAY 23rd 1873- MY GREAT GRAND FATHER FEB 6th 1910 -MARRIED

OLLIE MAE THOMPSON

AFTER JOHN THEY IMMAGRATED IN 1879.

BEATRICE ANN - SEPT. 12th 1872-SEPT. 14th 1934 married?

HENETTIA RACHEL- JUNE 9th 1887-???? MARRIED?

PAUL JAMES- MAY 16th 1888-DEC. 8th 1935  MARRIED?

          WOULD BE GREATFULL FOR ANY INFO ON ANY

MEMBER OF THE FAMILY ,OR ANY RESOURCES.

TRIED TO GET SOME PARISH RECORDS ,

ESPECIALLY FROM THE CROGHAN PARISH IN

ROSCOMMON, BUT TO NO AVAIL.ALSO LOOKING FOR THE

ANCESTORY OF ANNIE WINEFRED COOK.

               I WISH EVERYONE A HOPEFULL NEW YEAR.

P.S. IF YOUR A DISTANT COUSION OR JUST CIRIOUS, I HAVE LOTS OF

WONDERFULL

THINGS TO SHARE FROM GGGRANDPA`S SCRAPBOOK.

 

MY SOURCES FOR THIS ARE A MARRIAGE CERTIFICATE,

A OFFICAL DOCUMENT  GRANTING CITIZEN SHIP(OCT 16 1879) , AND SOME

WRITINGS

BY THE HAND OF JOHN CROGHAN SR.

PPS. IT STATES ON THE MARRIGE CERTIFICATE HIS FATHER`S NAME  WAS ALSO

JOHN

CROGHAN.-

 

Date:   Wed, 2 Jan 2002 15:28:21 +0000 (GMT)

From:  "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> | Block Address  | Add to Address Book

Subject:          [Cryan et al.] Roscommon Herald Articles No. 62

To:       CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

cryan-l@rootsweb.com

 

Roscommon Herald Articles No. 62

9-5-1896

Keash (Co. Sligo) Davitt Band

A special meeting, held for the purpose of

re-organising the above band, took place on Sunday

last, Mr P Duignan occupying the chair. The chairman

said it was most essential to re-organise now that we

had not many of the old band boys, that it was time to

try and teach a new staff of young men who will remain

in the country, and as there was no meeting of the

band committee for a very considerable time it was the

business of the meeting to appoint a new committee.M

McGowan, A Donoher, J McGowan, M Cryan, J Walsh, James

Soden, J Cullen, M Cryan, P Breheny, P Keaveny, J

Boylan, P O’Connor, M Breheny, P Scanlon, Thomas

Henry, and P Lydon were accordingly appointed. The

chairman said as there was a very good committee of

young men appointed he hoped each one would do his own

part to help the object of the meeting. He also said

it was now the business of the committee to appoint a

president, a secretary and a treasurer. The chairman

(P Duignan), JM Cryan, and Edward Crofton were

unanimously elected. A subscription list was opened,

and the sum of £1 6s handed to the treasurer. It was

proposed and duly carried that circulars be got

printed and sent to friends outside the parish to

solicit their co-operation. A vote of thanks to the

chairman brought the meeting to a close. - J. M.

Cryan, hon. sec.

 

Date:   Wed, 2 Jan 2002 15:29:10 +0000 (GMT)

From:  "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> | Block Address  | Add to Address Book

Subject:          [Cryan et al.] Roscommon Herald Articles No. 63

To:       CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Roscommon Herald Articles No. 63

Ballymote Petty Sessions (Co Sligo)

25-6-1898

Trespass

Michael Crann, Carrowcashaely, summoned Mr George

Boyers, of the same place, for the tresspass of six

head of cattle on his oats on the 3rd of June.

There was a cross-case for the trespass of donkeys at

various dates.

Michael Crann, deposed he got the cattle and brought

Mr Irvine, the appraiser, to see the damage, who

damaged it at 10s.

Mr Irvine said he would not give evidence until he was

paid.

Mr Boyers (to Crann) - You were not there at all. Did

you see them there?

Crann declined to answer the question, but called Pat

Mallooney, who stated that he found the cattle in

Crann’s oats and sent his boy over for Crann when he

got them.

Mr Duke - Whose land is the oats on? - On my land.

Crann - I have it as only con acre from Mr Mallooney.

Mr Boyers said Mallooney was Crann’s uncle.

Mr Duke - Did you know whose cattle they were when you

got them?

Mallooney - I did not, sir. I took care of them until

Crann came and he knew them and drove them to Mr

Boyers house. Mr Boyers said he would look at the

damage but he did not do so.

Arthur S Irvine, the parish appraiser, deposed Crann

came over for him on the 4th June and he went down to

see the damage, and walked the place. He valued the

damage as 10s the last time he was there.

The case was adjourned for the production of further

evidence.

 

From:  "Helen Cryan" <HCRYAN@MN.RR.COM> | Block Address  | Add to Address Book

Date:   Wed, 2 Jan 2002 22:32:06 -0000

Subject:          [Cryan et al.] Cryan's From New Jersey

To:       CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

I am searching for any family members from the Trenton area, names

include Cryan, Solarski and Strouse. My parents are Charles John Cryan and

Evelyn Solarski-Cryan. I only know my grandfather's name, Felix

Solarski who is my mother's father. Other names are, Howard Strouse, Gary

Cryan and Dennis Cryan.

 

From:  "Pat Cryans" <pat@pcryans.fsnet.co.uk> | Block Address  | Add to Address Book

To:       "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>

Subject:          Re: [Cryan et al.] Re: derrygola

Date:   Thu, 3 Jan 2002 09:17:18 -0000

Ronan,

My fanily came from carrowcrory derrygolagh area

I believe my family may be related to Kevin Cryan of Derrygolagh  his

fatherwas Paky John Cryan

My family  was Patrick Cryan Mary Judge,<Breheny> my family moved from

thatarea in 1870 Patrick Owen John three brothers they went to Glasgow

Scotlande

 

Date:   Fri, 4 Jan 2002 11:36:30 +0000 (GMT)

From:  "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> | Block Address  | Add to Address Book

Subject:          [Cryan et al.] Sean Cryan and Eamon de Valera

To:       CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Hi

I found this interesting quote in a book my uncle Des

Cryan was reading [Des also worked for the Irish Press

and was the main features writer for the Sunday Press

throughout the 1960s]

caoimhghin

 

Sean Cryan and Eamonn de Valera

 

Mark O’Brien, De Valera, Fianna Fail and the Irish

Press (Irish Academic Press, Dublin 2001) 92-3.

 

During the inter-party years [1954-57] the ‘party

expected the paper to be pro-Fianna Fail almost to the

point of being propagandist. If de Valera made a

speech it was reported verbatim but if the Taoiseach

made a speech and paragraphs were cut nobody noticed.’

Indeed, accompanying de Valera on the campaign trail

was a well-recognised occupational hazard for Burgh

Quay [quay in Dublin where office of Irish Press was

located] journalists. This job usually fell to the

person then regarded as the political correspondent of

the Irish Press, Sean Cryan, who was regularly given

the task of accompanying de Valera to various

speech-making ceremonies. Not only was Cryan the

paper’s fastest shorthand taker but he could also

translate the Irish parts of de Valera’s speeches into

shorthand:

‘Cryan accompanied de Valera on most of his trips and

de Valera would tend to go off the script or not have

a script at all, so it was critical to have him

verbatim. The chief was very conscious of that. If you

got a quote wrong there would be inquiries all the way

down. In those days, all copy would be bagged for a

period, day-by-day, week-by-week, big envelopes full

of copy used to stretch all around the walls of the

newsroom. So if anyone were pulled on anything, they

would go back to the copy, see who subbed it and find

out who made the mistake - whether it was the reporter

or sub-editor or both. Then you’d have inquiries

coming down the line from the likes of the managing

director, Bill Redmond asking “How was it that you got

this quote wrong?”’

 

Notes

1951 30 May Election: Government - Fianna Fáil with E.

de Valera.

1954 18 May Election: Coalition - Fine Gael/Clann na

Poblachta with J. Costello.

1957 5 Mar Election: Government - Fianna Fáil with E.

de Valera.

 

Sean Cryan’s brother, Tom Cryan, was a sports

journalist for the Evening Herald during the 1960s and

1970s. Their father was a Garda.

 

From:  "Pat Cryans" <pat@pcryans.fsnet.co.uk> | Block Address  | Add to Address Book

To:       "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>

Subject:          Re: [Cryan et al.] Sean Cryan and Eamon de Valera

Date:   Sat, 5 Jan 2002 11:53:02 -0000

kevin , info regarding this Cryan family they came from the Sligo side

ofLough Gara the area known as Falleens.

I was in contact with Thomas Cryan the sports writer some years ago.

regards Patrick .

 

From:  Fatarm@aol.com | Block Address  | Add to Address Book

Date:   Sat, 5 Jan 2002 10:49:20 EST

Subject:          Re: new members?

To:       caoimhghin@yahoo.com

Thanks, did it, and Great Job!  I think that brings us up to 106 active

members...  Gotta run, but yes, a great holiday, hope your's was too --

Happy

New Year! -Leslie

 

Date:   Tue, 8 Jan 2002 00:22:37 +0000 (GMT)

From:  "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com Subject:        [Cryan et al.] Roscommon Herald Articles No. 64

To:       CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

cryan-l@rootsweb.com

Roscommon Herald Articles No. 64

13 Sep 1902

News in Brief

The numerous friends of Master T. Finn of Clooneen,

Gurteen, Co. Sligo, will be glad to hear of his

success at the recent Civil Service examination. Great

credit is due to Master Finn as he attended Mr.

Cryan’s Civil Service classes only for four months

preceding the examination and was so fortunate to be

so successful on his first attempt.

 

 

Date:   Tue, 8 Jan 2002 00:23:52 +0000 (GMT)

From:  "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> Subject:     [Cryan et al.] Roscommon Herald Articles No. 65

To:       CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Roscommon Herald Articles No. 65

13 Sep 1902

Boyle Marriages

Cryan and Devine - On September 2nd at St Francis

Xavier’s church, Gardiner St, Dublin, with Nuptial

Mass, Mr. John Cryan, merchant of Bridge St, Boyle was

married to Miss Eleanor, Mary (May) Devine, second

eldest daughter of Mr. Fitzmaurice Devine, merchant,

Ballyfarnon, Co Roscommon. The marriage ceremony was

performed by Rev George J Coyle PP, Highwood, assisted

by Very Rev Canon B R Coyne PP VF, Boyle, and the Very

Rev Fr Conmee SJ.

 

Date:   Tue, 08 Jan 2002 19:22:58 +0000

Subject:          No 64 - my Cryan at last

From:  "Pat Hunt" <pathunt@indigo.ie> | Block Address  | Add to Address Book

To:       "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>

 Caoimhghin,

This is my man, principal of the College in the Bog. The first time

hisname cropped up in your gleanings.

Let's hope there are other references to come. And don't forget to

sendme material for typing if you are under pressure.

If any Ballaghaderreen articles feature in photocopies you make,

pleasesend them to me. I will cover costs.

Happy New Year,Pat Hunt

 

Date:   Wed, 09 Jan 2002 08:43:52 +0000

Subject:          Anything of interest about that town

From:  "Pat Hunt" <pathunt@indigo.ie> | Block Address  | Add to Address Book

To:       "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>

Caoimhghin,

Any article that might appear on a page you are photocopying

anyway;otherwise any reasonably long article that covers political,

educational,economic life of the town.  Not small court cases though. And of

course, my Master Thomas Cryan or my granduncle teachers from Kilfree: James and

BattyHannan.Best wishes,Pat

 

 

Date:   Thu, 10 Jan 2002 15:04:53 +0000 (GMT)

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Subject:          [Cryan et al.] Roscommon Herald 1902 refs

To:       CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Roscommon Herald 1902

 

4 Jan

UIL Keash

JM Cryan JP

 

Boyle Union

John Cryan JP

m.

 

Football

Boyle Freebooters

Jack Cryan

M.

 

11 Jan

(Strokestown Petty Sessions

man bound to the peace for speaking Irish)

 

Jan 18

(Larceny -French girl tried with french trans)

 

Boyle Race Committee

Appeal to the town

J Cryan

Art

 

8 Feb

p4 Boyle Teachers Association

"(3) That we deeply sympathise with Mr Cryan and

family of Croghan on the premature death of John

Cryan" EJ Kenny and PJ Beirne, secs

 

 

15 mar

Boyle v Castlerea

John Cryan

Art

 

(P2 Ballaghdereen

Coleman-creamery)

 

Boyle Union

J Cryan jp

 

Supplement to Herald

Funeral of Henrietta Fry

With MR J Cryan and P Beirne NT Croghan

m

 

22 mar

p2 Obituary

Death of Miss Mary J Cryan

Croghan Female School

art

 

Supplement to Herald

Roscommon Union

Application of inmate Andrew Crean

5 children

art

 

April 5

(Erin the tear …

Lessons in Irish)

 

(Supplement to Herald

Death of centenarian Ellen Egan 113

b.1789)

 

19 apr

(Gaelic  notes-Sinn Fein

Hybrids re: Irish language)

 

Death of EC Robinson?

J Cryan

m.

 

Boyle Creamery

J Cryan

Art

 

26 Apr

News in Brief

Mr John Cryan, Chairman of Boyle No 2 District Council

purchased a well bred bull at the Dublin Cattle Show

for £40 from the representatives of the Rev. Mr Smith,

Oaklands, Boyle.

 

Boyle Race Meeting

John Cryan

M

 

Lime for Sale at Cryans Kilns (Lately Judges)

Ad.

 

8 Mar

Obituary

Mrs Catherine Cryan

Bridgetown Carrick-on-Sshannon

Pat and John [sons]

Kate, S.J. and B. Fallon [daughters]

art.

 

3 May

The Elections

Boyle no 2

Templevanny John M Cryan

Carrowcrory

m.

 

14 Jun

Shocking Accident near Boyle

Mr Cryan’s

[death of John Naylor]

art.

 

cryan-l@rootsweb.com

Roscommon Herald Articles No. 64

13 Sep 1902

News in Brief

The numerous friends of Master T. Finn of Clooneen,

Gurteen, Co. Sligo, will be glad to hear of his

success at the recent Civil Service examination. Great

credit is due to Master Finn as he attended Mr.

Cryan’s Civil Service classes only for four months

preceding the examination and was so fortunate to be

so successful on his first attempt.

 

cryan-l@rootsweb.com

Roscommon Herald Articles No. 65

13 Sep1902

Boyle Marriages

Cryan and Devine - On September 2nd at St Francis

Xavier’s church, Gardiner St, Dublin, with Nuptial

Mass, Mr. John Cryan, merchant of Bridge St, Boyle was

married to Miss Eleanor, Mary (May) Devine, second

eldest daughter of Mr. Fitzmaurice Devine, merchant,

Ballyfarnon, Co Roscommon. The marriage ceremony was

performed by Rev George J Coyle PP, Highwood, assisted

by Very Rev Canon B R Coyne PP VF, Boyle, and the Very

Rev Fr Conmee SJ.

 

18 Oct 1902

Obituary

Michael Cryan

Ballymote Co Sligo

art.

 

25 oct 1902

[page 1 A Strange Language]

art

 

cryan-l@rootsweb.com

Roscommon Herald Articles No. 66

 

15 Nov 1902

Boyle Petty Sessions

Bernard Cryan summoned his neighbour James Spellman,

for the trespass of calves on his tillage on the 25th

and 29th of September. Spellman had a cross-case

against Cryan for the trespass of a goat on his land

on the 5th of November.

Major Murphy suggested that it would be far better for

them repair their fencesthan fining them. Cryan

protested that his fences were in excellent repair

whilst Spellman vehemently alleged that they were down

last Spring.

Major Murphy said they would give a decree for 2s and

costs against Spellman and remarked that the money

they had paid would repair the fences if they had

agreed to do so.

 

22 nov 1902

p10

Sligo Union

Big Change Proposed

Hugh Cryan

art

 

13 dec 1902

page 1[The Growth of the Gaelic League]

cartoon

 

13 dec 1902

Mohill Petty Sessions

Threatening Language

Joseph Cryan Aughadrumbeg

art

 

13 dec 1902

p8

Boyle Sub Land Commission

Cryan v King - Harman

James Cryan and son Andrew Cryan

art

 

20 dec 1902

p1

[the Anti-Gaelic Irish]

cartoon

 

fin

 

Date:   Thu, 10 Jan 2002 15:06:37 +0000 (GMT)

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Subject:          [Cryan et al.] Roscommon Herald Articles No. 66

To:       CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

cryan-l@rootsweb.com

Roscommon Herald Articles No. 66

 

15 Nov 1902

Boyle Petty Sessions

Bernard Cryan summoned his neighbour James Spellman,

for the trespass of calves on his tillage on the 25th

and 29th of September. Spellman had a cross-case

against Cryan for the trespass of a goat on his land

on the 5th of November.

  

Major Murphy suggested that it would be far better for

them repair their fences than fining them. Cryan

protested that his fences were in excellent repair

whilst Spellman vehemently alleged that they were down

last Spring.

Major Murphy said they would give a decree for 2s and

costs against Spellman and remarked that the money

they had paid would repair the fences if they had

agreed to do so.

 

 

Date:   Thu, 10 Jan 2002 15:08:00 +0000 (GMT)

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Subject:          [Cryan et al.] Roscommon Herald Articles No. 67

To:       CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

cryan-l@rootsweb.com

Roscommon Herald Articles No. 67

 

17 jan 1903

News in Brief

There is a Mr Eugene Crean MP now perambulating

Roscommon who is held at his true value in his native

Cork. Last year when he stood as a Town Councillor he

was left at the very bottom of the poll when he

represented Queens County, the people got so tired of

him that they hunted him and he had to try elsewhere

and with all his frothy talk indoors he has shunned

the risk of jail like the pestilence. He is a

“Bounder” of the Hebrew gold variety who will never

risk his skin in prison.

 

Date:   Thu, 10 Jan 2002 15:09:06 +0000 (GMT)

From:  "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> | Block Address  | Add to Address Book

Subject:          [Cryan et al.] Roscommon Herald Articles No. 68

To:       CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

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Roscommon Herald Articles No. 68

 

21 mar 1903

p6

Mohill Petty Sessions

Alleged Larceny

Luke Mc Keam summoned Patrick Cryan , Mary Cryan and

Mary A Cryan for alleged larceny. Mr Corscadden - I

appear for the defendants and I would ask your

worships to let the case stand until this day

fortnight. One of the defendants - Mrs Cryan - is very

ill, and I was only informed of the matter last night

by her husband. The case was accordingly adjourned.

 

Date:   Sun, 13 Jan 2002 21:24:17 +0000 (GMT)

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Subject:          [Cryan et al.] Roscommon Herald Articles 1901

To:       CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Roscommon Herald Articles 1901

cryan-l@rootsweb.com

 

12 jan 1901

[p1 cartoon re irish lang]

 

26 jan 1901

p1 [gaelic notes: bilingual education art]

 

2 feb1901

Labourers act inq Intro and Creeve LAST PAGE small art

 

 

9 feb 1901

p11

[Longford town comis: Renaming the streets] art

 

2 mar 1901

p1 [cartoon re renaming the streets in Irish]

 

9 mar 1901

[longford town commissioners The Irish

Revival-streetnames art]

also[obit malachy coleman]

 

16 mar 1901

[news in brief - no's of people who speak Irish]

 

23 mar 1901

football boyle vs c o s cryan on team art

also sligo union tobacco for inmates hugh cryan art

also [ad for lecture by hyde last page]

 

30 mar 1901

[the gaelic revival: hydes lecture in ballaghdereen,

p2 long art]

also p3 castlerea petty sessions Brothers differ thos

vs martin crean art

also UIL Keash branch co sligo full of cryans art

 

6 apr 1901

[Croghan branch pat eardly, m]

 

27 apr 1901

p2 Boyle race committee cryan art

also Ballymote petty sessions Mr Cryans case art

 

25 may 1901

p1 [irish on cart, cartoon]

also Ballymote petty sessions the Keash case martin

cryan art

 

1 june 1901

p2 [voice photography: graphophone, art]

also Presentation Brothers Schools Boyle Annual sports

day

on Whit Monday John Cryan art

 

8 jun 1901

p7 Boyle no 2 district Mr Cryan re elected art

 

22 jun 1901 p3

[electric light] art

 

29 Jun 1901

Ballymote petty sessions The Keash case E. Cryan art

 

20 Jul 1901

p3 Ballymote petty sessions assault thomas cryan,

knockaligan art

Mullaghroe Petty sessions Captain Crene RM [Crean,

Crane, Crene] M.

 

3 Aug 1901

Cartoon of Crane RM [Crean, Crane, Crene]

 

10 Aug 1901

p3 Boyle Union Keadue Pump J Cryan art

also Boyle Creamery Carrowcrory Auxilliary J Cryan art

 

 

12 oct 1901

[Electric lighting of boyle, also in article- First

photo portraits]

also News in Brief Captain Crean RM [Crean, Crane,

Crene]

"Captain Crean RM who was so conspicuous during the

disturbances in Bally mote has been transferred to

Tralee"

 

9 nov 1901

Death of Luke Beirne

Ballinameen

4th last page

 

30 Nov 1901

[Voice Photography parties!]

ad

 

cryan-l@rootsweb.com

Roscommon Herald Articles No. 69

 

30 Nov 1901

News in Brief

A very interesting little work entitled “Conversation”

for the use of Irish students has been brought out by

Rev. Bernard Crehan CC and by Mr B J Goff, Elphin. The

work has been compiled by the Elphin branch of the

Gaelic League and contains matter which must prove

very interesting to the Gaelic Leaguers. It can be

obtained for 2p.

 

14 Dec 1901

p4

Terrific Blaze in Boyle

Corporal Cryan and Private Cryan

art

 

fin

 

 

Date:   Sun, 13 Jan 2002 21:25:16 +0000 (GMT)

From:  "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> | Block Address  | Add to Address Book

Subject:          [Cryan et al.] Roscommon Herald Articles No. 69

To:       CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

cryan-l@rootsweb.com

Roscommon Herald Articles No. 69

 

30 Nov 1901

News in Brief

A very interesting little work entitled “Conversation”

for the use of Irish students has been brought out by

Rev. Bernard Crehan CC and by Mr B J Goff, Elphin. The

work has been compiled by the Elphin branch of the

Gaelic League and contains matter which must prove

very interesting to the Gaelic Leaguers. It can be

obtained for 2p.

 

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Date:   Wed, 16 Jan 2002 22:52:52 EST

Subject:          [Cryan et al.] "Cregane" - Repost from Roscommon mailing list

To:       CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Pardon me if you've already seen this, but it caught my attention and I

thought I'd repost in case someone else had missed it ...

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Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 17:31:23 -0600

From: "Cathy Joynt Labath" <labaths@worldnet.att.net>

To: ROSCOMMON-L@rootsweb.com

Subject: [Roscommon-l] Connaught Journal; Aug 14, 1823

 

Connaught Journal

published Galway, Ireland

Thursday, August 14,  1823

On the night of Sunday last, between the hours of twelve and one, the

houseof a man named DUGAN, residing at Cregane, near this town, parish of

Drum,Co Roscommon, was maliciously set on fire by a party of incendiaries.

Thepoor man and family were buried asleep in bed, at the time, but were

providentially awakened by the suffocating impressions they were

receivingfrom the smoke, and escaped without injury. Their house and little

furniture, however, fell prey to the flames. This and former outrages,

arethe emanations of a system, which, lurking in the neighbourhood, gives,

byintervals, manifestations of its existence, without being as yet

discovered.---Athlone Herald.

 

 

 

Cathy Joynt Labath

Ireland Newspaper Abstracts

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From:  "Melinda Jean Fountain" <mf004g@mail.rochester.edu> | Block Address  | Add to Address Book

To:       caoimhghin@yahoo.com

Subject:          Cryan research

Dear Kevin,

My name is Melinda Fountain, I am a college student in Upstate New York

in

the United States doing some research on my grandmother's Irish

heritage.  Like so many Americans we don't have very well kept family

records, so I am starting my with grandmother's surname of Cryan and

trying

to go backward from there.  I know that she was born in 1916 and that

both of her parents were immigrants from Ireland, but that's as far

back as I can go.  This is quite a challenge!  Since you have done such

extensive research

on the Cryan family I was wondering if you could let me know some basic

information, such as if the Cryan name is very common in Ireland (or

was) and depending on that answer if you have any advice on getting

started.

Thank you in advance for your assistance!

 

Melinda Fountain

 

Date:   Sat, 19 Jan 2002 14:30:09 +0000 (GMT)

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Subject:          lists

To:       caoimhghin@yahoo.com, caoimhghin@writerscentre.ie

Roscommon Herald 1900

cryan-l@rootsweb.com

 

 

3 Feb

p8

Boyle Teachers As.

Cryan

m.

 

17 feb

[lighting of Boyle]

 

3 mar

p3

Messrs John Cryan Boyle

and John Gavican, Mockmoyne were admitted shareholders

Boyle Creamery

m.

 

28 Apr

p9 UIL

[Splendid demo at Croghan]

art

 

18 aug

p1

[Motor cars in Boyle]

art

p3

[obit James Beirne Warren Boyle]

art

 

25 aug

News in Brief

All arrangements are now complete for the holding of

the Boyle Athletic and Cycling Sports which take place

on Sunday in the Drill Field which has been kindly

given for the occasion by Mr John Cryan.

see also p5 report of event

m.

 

1 sep

Summer Hill College Sligo

Honors List

Edward Crean

Pass in Latin French English Arithmetic Euclid

m.

also

News in Brief

Miss Amy Cryan, daughter of Mr Cryan the respected

teacher of Townybrack National School Ballaghdereen,

has taken second place in all Ireland in the Middle

Grade Intermediate Examination.

m.

 

15 Sep

p5

Ballymote Petty Sessions Sligo

A Keash Licensing Case

Martin Cryan and Margaret Cryan

art.

 

29 sep

p1

Boyle Creamery

James Cryan

m.

also p4

Ballymote Petty Sessions Sligo

Old Case of Trespass

Catherine Cryan

art

 

6 oct

News in Brief

[Marriage of Constance Gore Booth]

 

27 oct

[Boyle Qtr Sess- An Estersnow case- Beirne]

art

 

27 oct

Ballymote Petty Sessions Sligo

Poaching

Mary Cryan

art

 

3 nov

p1

[Croghan great october fair]

art

 

17 nov 1900

Dromod Petty Sessions [fr hourican, drumsna]

 

24 Nov 1900

[p1 the gaelic league, croghan creamery cartoon,

p3 extraordinary scene at croghan creamery]

 

24 nov 1900

[croghan petty sessions

An Eastersnow case Martin Beirne

art]

 

1 Dec 1900

p1 1st col

[Longford notes Gaelic League and gaelic notes, art]

[land sub commission Longford, hourican]

 

8 dec 1900

[p1 Gaelic notes art]

also [obit p3 p. houtican]

also [Hyde and mcAleese art]

 

15 dec 1900

News in Brief [hyde's play and lecture]

also [castlerea district news: gaelic revival in

castlrea]

 

22 dec 1900

[gaelic notes: irish in school art]

[hyde [war items page] 7the col art]

 

fin

 

Roscommon Herald Articles 1901

cryan-l@rootsweb.com

 

12 jan 1901

[p1 cartoon re irish lang]

 

26 jan 1901

p1 [gaelic notes: bilingual education art]

 

2 feb1901

Labourers act inq Intro and Creeve LAST PAGE small art

 

 

9 feb 1901

p11

[Longford town comis: Renaming the streets] art

 

2 mar 1901

p1 [cartoon re renaming the streets in Irish]

 

9 mar 1901

[longford town commissioners The Irish

Revival-streetnames art]

also[obit malachy coleman]

 

16 mar 1901

[news in brief - no's of people who speak Irish]

 

23 mar 1901

football boyle vs c o s cryan on team art

also sligo union tobacco for inmates hugh cryan art

also [ad for lecture by hyde last page]

 

30 mar 1901

[the gaelic revival: hydes lecture in ballaghdereen,

p2 long art]

also p3 castlerea petty sessions Brothers differ thos

vs martin crean art

also UIL Keash branch co sligo full of cryans art

 

6 apr 1901

[Croghan branch pat eardly, m]

 

27 apr 1901

p2 Boyle race committee cryan art

also Ballymote petty sessions Mr Cryans case art

 

25 may 1901

p1 [irish on cart, cartoon]

also Ballymote petty sessions the Keash case martin

cryan art

 

1 june 1901

p2 [voice photography: graphophone, art]

also Presentation Brothers Schools Boyle Annual sports

day

on Whit Monday John Cryan art

 

8 jun 1901

p7 Boyle no 2 district Mr Cryan re elected art

 

22 jun 1901 p3

[electric light] art

 

29 Jun 1901

Ballymote petty sessions The Keash case E. Cryan art

 

20 Jul 1901

p3 Ballymote petty sessions assault thomas cryan,

knockaligan art

Mullaghroe Petty sessions Captain Crene RM [Crean,

Crane, Crene] M.

 

3 Aug 1901

Cartoon of Crane RM [Crean, Crane, Crene]

 

10 Aug 1901

p3 Boyle Union Keadue Pump J Cryan art

also Boyle Creamery Carrowcrory Auxilliary J Cryan art

 

 

12 oct 1901

[Electric lighting of boyle, also in article- First

photo portraits]

also News in Brief Captain Crean RM [Crean, Crane,

Crene]

"Captain Crean RM who was so conspicuous during the

disturbances in Bally mote has been transferred to

Tralee"

 

9 nov 1901

Death of Luke Beirne

Ballinameen

4th last page

 

30 Nov 1901

Voice Photography parties!

ad

 

cryan-l@rootsweb.com

Roscommon Herald Articles No. 69

 

30 Nov 1901

News in Brief

A very interesting little work entitled “Conversation”

for the use of Irish students has been brought out by

Rev. Bernard Crehan CC and by Mr B J Goff, Elphin. The

work has been compiled by the Elphin branch of the

Gaelic League and contains matter which must prove

very interesting to the Gaelic Leaguers. It can be

obtained for 2p.

 

14 Dec 1901

p4

Terrific Blaze in Boyle

Corporal Cryan and Private Cryan

art

 

fin

Roscommon Herald 1902

 

4 Jan

UIL Keash

JM Cryan JP

 

Boyle Union

John Cryan JP

m.

 

Football

Boyle Freebooters

Jack Cryan

M.

 

11 Jan

(Strokestown Petty Sessions

man bound to the peace for speaking Irish)

 

Jan 18

(Larceny -French girl tried with french trans)

 

Boyle Race Committee

Appeal to the town

J Cryan

Art

 

8 Feb

p4 Boyle Teachers Association

"(3) That we deeply sympathise with Mr Cryan and

family of Croghan on the premature death of John

Cryan" EJ Kenny and PJ Beirne, secs

 

 

15 mar

Boyle v Castlerea

John Cryan

Art

 

(P2 Ballaghdereen

Coleman-creamery)

 

Boyle Union

J Cryan jp

 

Supplement to Herald

Funeral of Henrietta Fry

With MR J Cryan and P Beirne NT Croghan

m

 

22 mar

p2 Obituary

Death of Miss Mary J Cryan

Croghan Female School

art

 

Supplement to Herald

Roscommon Union

Application of inmate Andrew Crean

5 children

art

 

April 5

(Erin the tear …

Lessons in Irish)

 

(Supplement to Herald

Death of centenarian Ellen Egan 113

b.1789)

 

19 apr

(Gaelic  notes-Sinn Fein

Hybrids re: Irish language)

 

Death of EC Robinson?

J Cryan

m.

 

Boyle Creamery

J Cryan

Art

 

26 Apr

News in Brief

Mr John Cryan, Chairman of Boyle No 2 District Council

purchased a well bred bull at the Dublin Cattle Show

for £40 from the representatives of the Rev. Mr Smith,

Oaklands, Boyle.

 

Boyle Race Meeting

John Cryan

M

 

Lime for Sale at Cryans Kilns (Lately Judges)

Ad.

 

8 Mar

Obituary

Mrs Catherine Cryan

Bridgetown Carrick-on-Sshannon

Pat and John [sons]

Kate, S.J. and B. Fallon [daughters]

art.

 

3 May

The Elections

Boyle no 2

Templevanny John M Cryan

Carrowcrory

m.

 

14 Jun

Shocking Accident near Boyle

Mr Cryan’s

[death of John Naylor]

art.

 

cryan-l@rootsweb.com

Roscommon Herald Articles No. 64

13 Sep 1902

News in Brief

The numerous friends of Master T. Finn of Clooneen,

Gurteen, Co. Sligo, will be glad to hear of his

success at the recent Civil Service examination. Great

credit is due to Master Finn as he attended Mr.

Cryan’s Civil Service classes only for four months

preceding the examination and was so fortunate to be

so successful on his first attempt.

 

cryan-l@rootsweb.com

Roscommon Herald Articles No. 65

13 Sep1902

Boyle Marriages

Cryan and Devine - On September 2nd at St Francis

Xavier’s church, Gardiner St, Dublin, with Nuptial

Mass, Mr. John Cryan, merchant of Bridge St, Boyle was

married to Miss Eleanor, Mary (May) Devine, second

eldest daughter of Mr. Fitzmaurice Devine, merchant,

Ballyfarnon, Co Roscommon. The marriage ceremony was

performed by Rev George J Coyle PP, Highwood, assisted

by Very Rev Canon B R Coyne PP VF, Boyle, and the Very

Rev Fr Conmee SJ.

 

18 Oct 1902

Obituary

Michael Cryan

Ballymote Co Sligo

art.

 

25 oct 1902

[page 1 A Strange Language]

art

 

cryan-l@rootsweb.com

Roscommon Herald Articles No. 66

 

15 Nov 1902

Boyle Petty Sessions

Bernard Cryan summoned his neighbour James Spellman,

for the trespass of calves on his tillage on the 25th

and 29th of September. Spellman had a cross-case

against Cryan for the trespass of a goat on his land

on the 5th of November.

Major Murphy suggested that it would be far better for

them repair their fencesthan fining them. Cryan

protested that his fences were in excellent repair

whilst Spellman vehemently alleged that they were down

last Spring.

Major Murphy said they would give a decree for 2s and

costs against Spellman and remarked that the money

they had paid would repair the fences if they had

agreed to do so.

 

22 nov 1902

p10

Sligo Union

Big Change Proposed

Hugh Cryan

art

 

13 dec 1902

page 1[The Growth of the Gaelic League]

cartoon

 

13 dec 1902

Mohill Petty Sessions

Threatening Language

Joseph Cryan Aughadrumbeg

art

 

13 dec 1902

p8

Boyle Sub Land Commission

Cryan v King - Harman

James Cryan and son Andrew Cryan

art

 

20 dec 1902

p1

[the Anti-Gaelic Irish]

cartoon

 

fin

Roscommon Herald 1903

 

cryan-l@rootsweb.com

Roscommon Herald Articles No. 67

 

17 jan 1903

News in Brief

There is a Mr Eugene Crean MP now perambulating

Roscommon who is held at his true value in his native

Cork. Last year when he stood as a Town Councillor he

was left at the very bottom of the poll when he

represented Queens County, the people got so tired of

him that they hunted him and he had to try elsewhere

and with all his frothy talk indoors he has shunned

the risk of jail like the pestilence. He is a

“Bounder” of the Hebrew gold variety who will never

risk his skin in prison.

 

21 mar 1903

p3

St Patricks Day in Ballaghdereen

art

 

 

cryan-l@rootsweb.com

Roscommon Herald Articles No. 68

 

21 mar 1903

p6

Mohill Petty Sessions

Alleged Larceny

Luke Mc Keam summoned Patrick Cryan , Mary Cryan and

Mary A Cryan for alleged larceny. Mr Corscadden - I

appear for the defendants and I would ask your

worships to let the case stand until this day

fortnight. One of the defendants - Mrs Cryan - is very

ill, and I was only informed of the matter last night

by her husband. The case was accordingly adjourned.

 

 

18 apr 1903

p3

[Castlerea man reminiscences

- history of castlerea - ]

art

 

25 apr 1903

p6

Boyle Petty Sessions

Sanitary Prosecutors

James Cryan , Ballinultha

art

 

2 may 1903

Mohill Petty Sessions (Co Leitrim)

Entreating Recognizances

Patrick Cryan

art

 

9 may 1903

p6

Bawnboy Union (Co Cavan)

Medical and Surgical Appliances

Dr Crean Newtowngore

art

 

16 may 1903

Obituary

[same page as Boyle Petty Sessions]

Michael Cryan , Carrowreagh, Carrick on Shannon

art

 

6 jun 1903

p6

Mr Cryan Re-elected Chairman

art

 

13 Jun

p8

List of all Applications [ad]

John M Cryan

art

 

27 June

p1

A Silent Member [drawing]

Councillor Cryan JP at Ballinafad Court

art

 

27 June

p3

Boyle Union

J Cryan JP

m

 

27 June

Ballinafad Petty Sessions (Co Sligo)

J M Cryan JP

m

 

18 July

p5

Bawnboy Union

Dr Crean

m

 

8 aug

p6

Ballaghdereen Petty Sessions (Co Mayo)

A Cregane Dispute

Martin Cryan

art

 

29 aug

p5

Boyle Petty Sessions

Assault [in Cryan’s Pub]

The Cross Cases

art

 

5 sep

p6

Ballaghdereen Petty Sessions (Co Mayo)

River as Mearing

Cregane

Martin Cryan

art

Date:   Mon, 21 Jan 2002 18:44:54 -0500

From:  "Melinda Jean Fountain" <mf004g@mail.rochester.edu> | Block Address  | Add to Address Book

To:       "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>

Subject:          Re: Cryan research

Dear Caoimhghin,

Thanks very much for the link!  I am actually still working on finding

out

my great grandparents names (they were the ones that came to America,

my

grandmother was a first generation American) and if possible where they

were from.  My mother thinks they were Matthew and Elizabeth but I'm

checking with other relatives.  I would appreciate it if I was added to

the list also as you mentioned. Thank you very much again for your

help!

 

Melinda Fountain

 

On Sat, 19 Jan 2002, [iso-8859-1] Caoimhghin O Croidheain wrote:

 

> Hi

> Nice to hear from you - I dont know if you know about

> my site www.geocities.com/caoimhghin - click on family

> history. You will see lists of files from the

> cryan-list started in  jan 1998. Do a search through

> these files using search and find with the names of

> people and places you do know.

>

> I suggest you join the list [it is free] and ask the

> researchers to help you as some of them have very

> extensive records of births etc. Cryan is a rare name

> - do you know your grandparents names and which part

> of Ireland they came from?

> I can ask Leslie the moderator to include your email

> address on the List.

>

> caoimhghin

>Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 12:14:39 -0800 (PST)

From:   "karen cryan" <cryankaren@yahoo.com> | Block Address  | Add to Address Book

Subject:          Re: [Cryan et al.] grandmother's surname Cryan

To:       "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>

Melinda

 

On the question of how common the name of Cryan is - I

have never said the name to anyone without having to

spell it!! That's in Dublin anyway, down the country

is probably a bit different. Good luck with your

research!

 

Karen Cryan

 

Fri, 25 Jan 2002 11:19:51 GMT

Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 11:19:51 +0000 (GMT)

From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Caoimhghin=20O=20Croidheain?=

<caoimhghin@yahoo.com>

Subject: Archdeacon Michael Cryan

To: cryan-l@rootseb.com

MIME-Version: 1.0

Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1

Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

 

The Mayo News Online

 

http://www.mayonews.ie/current/archive3.tmpl$showpage?value1=31947820669998&datevar=&headlinevar=cryan&headlinecompvar=wo§ionvar=

 

28/03/2001

            Death of Archdeacon Michael Cryan

 

 

Death of Archdeacon Michael Cryan

 

The parish of Kiltimagh lost a much loved and

respected priest when Archdeacon Michael Cryan died at

Garden Hill Hospital, Sligo on March 12. Archdeacon

Cryan, or “Canon Cryan” as he was affectionately known

in the parish, had been hospitalised for some time and

news of his death was received with sorrow and regret

by all in the parish. He was brother of the late

Monsignor Paul Cryan, P.P. Swinford and was also

predeceased by his brother, Gerard. He had served as

parish priest since 1980 and on his retirement in 1995

he decided to stay on in Kiltimagh and lived with his

sister, Mary, in Cordarragh.

Canon Cryan was born in Ballymote, Co Sligo on May 19,

1920 and ordained to the priesthood in Maynooth

College in 1945. After his ordination he went to

England where he ministered in the diocese of

Nottingham in Leicester, Alfreton, Lincoln City and

Grimsby until he returned to Ireland in 1953 to work

as chaplain at the St. John of God Novitiate,

Ballinamore, Kiltimagh.

In 1954 he was transferred as chaplain to the Mercy

Convent in Collooney where he spent three years before

being appointed curate in Kilmactigue in 1957. In 1963

he was transferred to Charlestown and in 1970 he was

appointed Administrator in Tourlestrane where he

ministered for seven years. From 1977 until he was

appointed Parish Priest in Kiltimagh he was

Administrator at the Cathedral in Ballaghadereen. He

was appointed Canon in 1990 and Archdeacon in 1992.

During his time in Kiltimagh, Canon Cryan never spared

himself in the interests of his parishioners and after

many years of lobbying the various bodies he was a

happy and proud man on the day the new boys and girls

primary school was officially opened and blessed. He

also undertook a heavy workload in modernising the

church and grounds and always kept them in immaculate

condition. He was a man who was able to relate to

young people in a unique way and they also had a great

affection for him. But above all else he was a caring

and dedicated priest with a sense of humour who will

be remembered in the years ahead for his many acts of

kindness and, especially, for his concern for the sick

and elderly.

Removal took place from his residence to the Church of

the Holy Family and the Requiem Mass on the following

day was celebrated by Bishop of Achonry, Dr. Thomas

Flynn. He was assisted by three former classmates of

Canon Cryan—Bishop Michael Russell, retired bishop of

Waterford and Lismore, Fr. Joe Moran, Barnacarroll and

Fr. Seamus Boland, Kilalla as well as a large number

of priests from the diocese. Burial took place

afterwards in the church grounds.

The community in Kiltimagh extends sympathy to Canon

Cryan’s sister, Mary; four nieces, nephews-in-law,

grandnieces, relatives, friends, Bishop Flynn and the

priests of the diocese.

May his kind and gentle soul rest in peace.

 

Reply-to:        "FamSpack" < >

From:  "FamSpack" < > | Block Address  | Add to Address Book

Date:   Fri, 25 Jan 2002 11:24:28 -0000

Subject:          [Cryan et al.] Re : Cryan

To:       CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Melida,

Kevin put your email om the Cryan list

The following may be helpful

i) The first job is to obtain your grandmother's birth certificate

which

will give the names of her parents. The USA is well documented. Try

asking a

search engine for birth certificate.

 

ii) Then the immigration records of her parents You will have to ask

around

for that as I am not from the USA, though there are many on the Cryan

group

who will give advice

 

iii) There is a very good website which gives immigrants into USA via

Ellis

Island   Click here http://ww.ellisisland.org

NB there are other ports of entry into the USA and it looks as if

people are

recorded each time they went through the port so one person may appear

2 or

3 times

 

iv) Then as most of the Cryan name come from the borders of Co Sligo

and Co

Roscommon try http://www.leitrim-roscommon.com  which gives entry to

data

from the 1901 census of Ireland and the Griffiths Valuation and lots of

other goodies that are useful , explore the whole site - these lists

are not

complete and are being added to all the time, I have been involved in

transcribing the 1901 census for North Roscommon and South County Sligo

where you may find interesting data but I can not say whether it is of

your

family.

NB 1 Information is only on the internet if someone has put it there

absence

does not mean that it does not exist

NB 2 Most families from the west of Ireland lived on farms so any

mention of

a town may only mean the nearest town.

I hope that this is helpful and gives you a start.

Eve

 

Date:   Fri, 25 Jan 2002 12:14:54 +0000 (GMT)

From:  "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> | Block Address  | Add to Address Book

Subject:          [Cryan et al.] Obituary Daily Times [Cryan]

To:       CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Search on Cryan in Obituary Daily Times in Rootsweb

37 found

 

BAILEY, Bernice E "Bunny" (CRYAN); 82; Lebanon NH;

Concord M; 1998-1-16; cgdbout

BAILEY, Bernice E "Bunny" (CRYAN); 82; Lebanon NH;

Manchester U-L; 1998-1-16; cgdbout

CRYAN, Alberg C G; ; ; Newsday (NY); 1998-6-10; rpng

CRYAN, Alice (McALPIN); 73; Beaumaris ON; Bracebridge

Examiner; 2000-2-16; ekim

CRYAN, Angela "Dolly" (FRAVESI); 89; Agawam MA; Agawam

A-N; 2000-8-10; pml

CRYAN, Angela "Dolly" (FRAVESI); 89; Agawam MA; Spfld

U-N; 2000-8-9; fgibeau

CRYAN, Angela L "Dolly" (FRAVESI); 89; Agawam MA;

Spfld U-N; 2000-8-10; fgibeau

CRYAN, Catherine M (FITZGERALD); 85; Hamilton NJ; The

Times (NJ); 1999-7-23; caroilh

CRYAN, Charles J; 73; Barnegat NJ; ATC Press;

2001-7-6; cbentiv

CRYAN, Dorothy E; 71; Farmingdale NY>Rockledge FL;

Florida Today; 2001-12-21; mrm

CRYAN, Dorothy (SCIUPIDER); ; Buffalo NY; Buffalo

News; 2000-4-21; opnjudy

CRYAN, Gladys (HOUSE); 81; Lakeland FL; Ledger;

1997-12-13; clbates

CRYAN, Jessie May; 88; ; San Jose M-N (CA); 1999-4-29;

bjw

CRYAN, John J; ; Haverhill MA; Boston Globe;

1999-2-16; cgdbout

CRYAN, John J; ; Haverhill MA; Boston Globe;

1999-2-17; cgdbout

CRYAN, John Michael; 40; Lake Simcoe ON; Guelph Daily

Mercury; 2000-2-21; koorn

CRYAN, M Hazel (SHERMAN); ; Saugus MA; Boston Globe;

2001-1-4; troll

CRYAN, M Hazel (SHERMAN); ; Saugus MA; Boston Globe;

2001-1-5; troll

CRYAN, M Kathleen "Kay" (MURPHY); 76; St Thomas ON; St

Thomas T-J; 1999-5-18; kbutler

CRYAN, M Kathleen "Kay" (MURPHY); 76; St Thomas ON; St

Thomas T-J; 1999-5-19; kbutler

CRYAN, Mary Ethyl (CALVERT); 56; Houston TX>Hindsville

AR; Madison C-R; 2000-8-24; rprkr

CRYAN, Mary Ethyl (CALVERT); 56; Huntsville AR;

Mornews; 2000-8-18; pat

CRYAN, Maxine Elizabeth (McKAOUN); 85; Paradise CA;

Chico E-R; 2001-3-16; mrs

CRYAN, Maxine Elizabeth (McKAOUN); 85; Paradise CA;

Paradise P; 2001-3-17; mrs

CRYAN, Paul Joseph; 73; Lowell MA>Westerly RI; Prov

Journal; 1999-6-22; wgroberge

CRYAN, Robert; 58; Waynesboro PA; Hagerstown M-H (MD);

2000-10-24; gschubert

CRYAN, Robert; 58; Waynesboro PA; The Morning Call;

2000-10-23; tjbdpa

CRYAN, Shirley Lois (FREEMAN)[CULKIN]; 67; Chicago

IL>Pacific Grove CA; Times Herald Rec (NY);

2001-10-24; wwwalton

FOOTE, Sheryl C (CRYAN); 61; Albany NY>Boston MA;

Nashua T (NH); 1999-12-16; cgdbout

FOOTE, Sheryl (CRYAN); 61; Albany NY>Boston MA;

Manchester U-L; 1999-12-16; cgdbout

KELLY-CRYAN, Joan Frances; ; metro Chicago IL; Chicago

Tribune; 1996-3-17; trumbullc

MORSE, Maureen G (CRYAN); 59; Hamilton NJ; The Times

(NJ); 1999-12-28; caroilh

PATTERSON, Harriet C (CRYAN); 69; Whitefield NH>Lower

Allen Township PA; Sentinel; 1999-3-4; wwwalton

PATTERSON, Harriet (CRYAN); 69; Harrisburg PA;

Harrisburg P-N; 1999-3-4; mam

ROONEY, Regina "Jean" (CRYAN); 86; Brooklyn NY;

Ridgefield P (CT); 1998-2-5; bjw

STADVEC, Mary (CRYAN); 68; Pennsville NJ; The Times

(NJ); 1999-3-26; caroilh

TRACY, Mary Elizabeth (CRYAN); 75; Boston MA>Keene NH;

Windsor Chronicle (VT); 2000-6-9; jcary

 

Date:   Fri, 25 Jan 2002 12:16:32 +0000 (GMT)

From:  "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> | Block Address  | Add to Address Book

Subject:          [Cryan et al.] Obituary Daily Times [Crean]

To:       CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Search on Crean in Obituary Daily Times in Rootsweb

62 found

 

CAMPOMENOSI, June (CREAN); 78; Staten Island

NY>Mandeville LA; Times-Picayune; 2000-2-9; mlc

CAMPOMENOSI, June Crean; 78; Staten Island NY>New

Orleans LA; Times-Picayune; 2000-2-11; mlc

CREAN, Anna G; 92; MA>New Milford CT; Spfld U-N (MA);

1998-11-14; fgibeau

CREAN, Anthony G; 70; Queens NY>W Hartford CT;

Hartford Courant; 2000-6-23; townsend

CREAN, Anthony G; 70; Queens NY>W Hartford CT;

Hartford Courant; 2000-6-24; townsend

CREAN, Bridget T "Bridie" (GANLEY); ; Winthrop MA;

Boston Globe; 1999-11-28; cgdbout

CREAN, Bridget T "Bridie" (GANLEY); ; Winthrop MA;

Boston Globe; 1999-11-29; cgdbout

CREAN, Dixie (); 83; Hazel Park MI; Detroit News;

1995-9-18; cwkirsch

CREAN, Dolores R (DUCLOS); 68; Granby MA; Spfld U-N;

1997-6-5; namefinder

CREAN, Doris M (ROUKEY); ; Brockton MA; Boston Globe;

2000-6-19; cgdbout

CREAN, Edith Patricia ( ); ; London ON; London F-P;

1997-5-23; blawton

CREAN, Edna J (ELMORE); ; Brighton MA; Boston Globe;

1998-5-22; bg

CREAN, Ellen C ( ); ; Waltham MA; Boston Globe;

2001-2-13; troll

CREAN, Ellen C miss; ; Waltham MA; Boston Globe;

2001-2-12; troll

CREAN, Ellen Isabel (KEARNEY); ; Vancouver BC; Vanc

Sun; 1999-10-8; mumtaz

CREAN, Emma P; 85; Lorain OH; Lorain J; 1999-7-29;

njmlj

CREAN, Ethna (O'LOUGHLIN); ; Dublin DUB IRL; Irish

Examiner (COR IRL); 2001-4-24; dja

CREAN, Frances A (FITZGERALD); ; Silver Spring

MD>Longwood FL; Wash DC Post (DC); 1999-12-16; jwilly

CREAN, Gerald; 76; Bloomingdale NJ; Newark S-L;

1998-3-22; fgibeau

CREAN, Gerald; 77; West Springfield MA; Spfld U-N;

2001-4-28; fgibeau

CREAN, Hubert J; ; East Aurora NY; Buffalo News;

1995-11-29; mbaron

CREAN, Hubert M; ; Arlington VA; Wash DC Post (DC);

2000-2-15; jwilly

CREAN, Isabelle B ( ); 80; Ocean City NJ; ATC Press;

2000-2-29; cbentiv

CREAN, James A; 61; Agawam MA; Spfld U-N; 1999-10-26;

fgibeau

CREAN, James A; 61; Springfield MA; Agawam A-N;

1999-10-28; pml

CREAN, John; ; Cork COR IRL; Irish Examiner;

2001-2-26; dja

CREAN, John J; 72; Wrentham MA; Worcester T-G;

2000-12-13; jmd

CREAN, John J; 72; Wrentham MA; Worcester T-G;

2000-12-14; jmd

CREAN, John James Jr; 76; Bronx NY>Salisbury NC;

Gaston G; 2001-1-20; wrabb

CREAN, Katherine M (SULLIVAN); 95; Worcester MA;

Worcester T-G; 1995-12-12; cwhee

CREAN, Kathryn Victoria "Kay"; 79; New York

NY>Annapolis MD; Annap MD Capital; 2000-6-29;

gilligaloo

CREAN, Lady Ellen Isabel (KEAMEY); ; Vancouver BC;

Province; 1999-10-8; verbeek

CREAN, Marian A (MATTER); ; South Wales NY; Buffalo

News; 1998-4-8; opnjudy

CREAN, Marie G (HEALY); 92; Salem MA; Manchester U-L

(NH); 2001-6-10; pboro

CREAN, Marie G (HEALY); 92; Salem MA; Salem E-N;

2001-6-11; matms

CREAN, Mary ( ); ; ; Newsday (NY); 2000-4-30; rpng

CREAN, Mary "May"; ; Ballyphehane Cork COR IRL;

Evening Echo; 2001-10-25; dja

CREAN, Maryrose M; 73; Westfield MA; Spfld U-N;

2001-5-7; fgibeau

CREAN, Michael James; 32; Rancho Cordova CA;

Sacramento Bee; 1997-10-23; sandrah

CREAN, Patrick; ; Clonmel TIP IRL; Irish Examiner (COR

IRL); 2001-10-18; dja

CREAN, Patrick Father; ; Knockanemore Ovens COR IRL;

Irish Examiner; 2001-3-22; dja

CREAN, Peter; 37; Kenmare KER IRL>QC; Cork Examiner

(COR IRL); 1867-5-29; dja

CREAN, Richard; ; Buffalo NY; Buffalo News; 2000-4-17;

opnjudy

CREAN, Robert F; 78; Philadelphia PA>Las Vegas NV; Las

Vegas R-J; 1999-8-24; rossy

CREAN, Robert F; 78; Philadelphia PA>North Las Vegas

NV; Las Vegas Sun; 1999-8-24; neb

CREAN, Rose J (SCHMITZ); ; Buffalo NY; Buffalo News;

1998-11-17; opnjudy

CREAN, Rosemary E (GRAY); 70; Salem MA; Salem E-N;

2001-1-19; matms

CREAN, Sean Michael; ; Bay Shore NY; Newsday;

1997-3-12; rpng

CREAN, Thomas B J; 80; Syracuse NY; Syr PS; 1999-3-14;

siram

CREAN, Thomas J; 74; Southbury CT; Voices; 1999-6-30;

hakjak

DAWSON, Margaret E (CREAN); 82; MA; R Greenfield;

2000-2-3; rwwl

DAWSON, Margaret E (CREAN); 82; Springfield MA; Spfld

U-N; 2000-2-2; fgibeau

DWYER, Eileen M (CREAN); 80; Branford CT; Meriden R-J;

2000-12-21; ajrgii

HOOD, Helen Marie (CREAN); 84; Buffalo NY>Truckee CA;

Reno G-J (NV); 1999-12-14; spike

JAMBORA, Jacqueline F (CREAN); 69; Palmer MA; Spfld

U-N; 1999-2-20; fgibeau

JOPSON, Patricia M (CREAN); 69; Westfield MA; Spfld

U-N; 1998-11-19; fgibeau

JUDGE, Jean L (CREAN); 96; Concord MA; Spfld U-N;

1998-10-23; fgibeau

O'LEARY, Valerie (CREAN); ; Gortanelig COR IRL; Irish

Examiner; 2001-12-18; dja

PERIGORD, Lillian M (CREAN); 85; Westfield MA; Spfld

U-N; 2000-10-17; fgibeau

TIERNEY, Elizabeth L (CREAN); ; Baltimore MD;

Baltimore Sun; 2001-12-25; siwel

WEST, Margaret M (CREAN); 74; Buffalo NY>Sayre PA;

Evening Times; 1999-3-27; jndann

WEST, Margaret M (CREAN); 74; Buffalo NY>Sayre PA;

Evening Times; 1999-3-27; jndann

 

 

Date:   Fri, 25 Jan 2002 12:18:24 +0000 (GMT)

From:  "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> | Block Address  | Add to Address Book

Subject:          [Cryan et al.] Obituary Daily Times [Crehan]

To:       CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Search on Crehan in Obituary Daily Times in Rootsweb

51 found

 

CREHAN, Alfred E; 70; Chester NY; Times Herald Rec;

1999-3-3; wwwalton

CREHAN, Anna M (SULLIVAN); 94; Weymouth MA; Boston

Globe; 1997-7-17; jgraham

CREHAN, Barbara Ann; 55; Natick MA; Middlesex N;

1996-6-1; jgraham

CREHAN, Barbara Ann (POWELL); 55; Natick Ma; Middlesex

N; 1996-5-31; jgraham

CREHAN, Carol J (BROST); ; Buffalo NY; Buffalo News;

1997-5-4; opnjudy

CREHAN, Carola (TRASK); 56; Norwood MA; Natick

Bulletin; 1996-9-19; jgraham

CREHAN, Catherine B (KEOWN); 76; Wrentham MA; Boston

Globe; 2000-4-27; cgdbout

CREHAN, Dorothy Elizabeth (FLOURNEY); 75; Hampton VA;

Hampton D-P; 1999-7-6; glenn

CREHAN, Earl B Sr; ; Baltimore MD; Baltimore Sun;

2001-12-18; siwel

CREHAN, Helen ( ); 75; Muskegon MI; Muskegon Chron;

1997-7-23; carolann

CREHAN, Helen (KARPOWICZ); 75; Muskegon MI; Muskegon

Chron; 1997-7-24; carolann

CREHAN, Helen (SCANLON); ; Buffalo NY; Buffalo News;

1999-12-27; opnjudy

CREHAN, Jennie Frances ( ); 92; Glen Burnie MD;

Maryland G; 1996-8-31; aconley

CREHAN, John J Sr; ; Pembroke MA; Boston Globe;

2001-1-26; troll

CREHAN, Joseph M; 69; Walpole MA; Boston Globe;

1999-10-21; cgdbout

CREHAN, Joseph M; 69; Walpole MA; Boston Globe;

1999-10-22; cgdbout

CREHAN, Kathleen H; ; Bedford MA; Boston Globe;

1999-6-27; cgdbout

CREHAN, Margaret (RABBITT); ; Co Galway IRL; Newsday

(NY); 2000-7-28; rpng

CREHAN, Margaret S ( ); 91; Hilton Head Island SC GA;

Savannah MN; 1998-9-26; theg

CREHAN, Marian (GREEN); 101; Danbury CT; News-Times;

1998-6-22; sherik

CREHAN, Marie (FOLEY)[GARRITY]; ; New York NY; Boston

Globe (MA); 2000-1-6; cgdbout

CREHAN, Marie (FOLEY)[GARRITY]; ; New York NY; Boston

Globe (MA); 2000-1-7; cgdbout

CREHAN, Mary C; ; West Roxbury MA; Boston Globe;

1999-2-8; cgdbout

CREHAN, Mary C; ; West Roxbury MA; Boston Globe;

1999-2-9; cgdbout

CREHAN, Mary F (MANN); ; West Harwich MA; Boston

Globe; 1999-7-4; cgdbout

CREHAN, Robert L;; Framingham MA; Boston G; 1995-6-27;

cgodbout

CREHAN, Robert Thomas; 43; Tampa FL>Westminster CO;

RMN; 2001-5-21; mak

CREHAN, Rosemary M (McCORMICK); 58; Tonawanda NY;

Buffalo News; 1999-1-13; opnjudy

CREHAN, Theresa (CELIO); 84; Windsor CT; Hartford

Courant; 1997-1-12; townsend

CREHAN, Theresa (CELLO); 84; Windsor CT; Hartford

Courant; 1997-1-13; sgowen

CREHAN, Titus; ; Oakland CA; SF Chronicle; 1997-3-9;

bosshogg

CREHAN, Verniece R; ; Joppa MD; Wash DC Post (DC);

1997-4-10; jwilly

CREHAN, Verniece Torney ( ); ; ; Wash DC Post (DC);

1997-4-9; andrusko

CREHAN, William Earle; 73; ; Des Plaines DH (IL);

2001-5-31; kag

CREHAN, William Earle; 73; Pittsburgh PA>Barrington

IL; Des Plaines DH; 2001-6-1; kag

CREHAN, William Earle; 73; Pittsburgh PA>Barrington

IL; Des Plaines DH; 2001-6-3; kag

FITZGERALD, Ann (CREHAN); ; Rockville MD; Wash DC Post

(DC); 1997-7-25; row

HOYLE, Anne M (CREHAN); ; Valley Stream NY; Newsday;

1998-4-20; rpng

HOYLE, Anne M (CREHAN); ; Valley Stream NY; Newsday;

1998-4-20; rpng

HOYLE, Anne M (CREHAN); ; Valley Stream NY; Newsday;

1998-4-21; rpng

HOYLE, Anne M (CREHAN); ; Valley Stream NY; Newsday;

1998-4-21; rpng

MINITER, Elizabeth (CREHAN); 98; New Haven CT; New

Haven Reg; 1999-3-12; cgdbout

MINITER, Elizabeth (CREHAN); 99; New Haven CT;

Hartford Courant; 1999-3-11; townsend

O'DWYER, Margaret (CREHAN); ; Bruff LIM IRL; Irish

Examiner (COR IRL); 2000-12-9; dja

O'NEILL, Anne (CREHAN); ; IRL>Bridgeport CT; Hartford

Courant; 1997-10-12; townsend

POIRIER, Marion (CREHAN); ; Quincy MA; Boston Globe;

1999-2-10; cgdbout

POIRIER, Marion (CREHAN); ; Quincy MA; Boston Globe;

1999-2-11; cgdbout

SERIGHELLI, Joanne (CREHAN); ; Hanover MA; Boston

Globe; 2001-1-10; troll

WALBRIDGE, N Kathleen "Kitty" (CREHAN); 82; Rockland

MA; Boston Globe; 2000-3-18; cgdbout

WALBRIDGE, N Kathleen "Kitty" (CREHAN); 82; Rockland

MA; Boston Globe; 2000-3-19; cgdbout

WILLIAMS, Teresa Crehan; 0; Quincy MA; Boston Globe;

1999-11-24; cgdbout

 

 

Date:   Fri, 25 Jan 2002 12:21:43 +0000 (GMT)

From:  "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> | Block Address  | Add to Address Book

Subject:          [Cryan et al.] Obituary Daily Times [Crine]

To:       CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Search on Crine in Obituary Daily Times in Rootsweb

3 found

 

CRINE, James D; 75; Wickatunk NJ>Las Vegas NV; Las

Vegas R-J; 1998-6-21; rossy

CRINE, Robert J; 85; Bryan OH; Blade; 1997-6-4;

cagormley

FALCONER, Doris McQuaig Crine; 75; Cairo GA;

Tallahassee D (FL); 1992-8-12; whamo

 

Date:   Fri, 25 Jan 2002 12:33:33 +0000 (GMT)

From:  "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> | Block Address  | Add to Address Book

Subject:          [Cryan et al.] Transcription Projects

To:       CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Hi

In these searches and the obituaries, Crane, due to

its synonyms in England, produces huge results that

would be better searched directly.

caoimhghin 

 

 

Transcription Projects

 

Immigrant Ship Transcribers Guild (ISTG) Check to see

if your immigrant ancestors' names are listed

 

Search results for 'cryan'

 

 

Documents 1 - 4 of 4 matches. More 's indicate a

better match. 

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ISTG Vol 3 - Ship Belle Wood

...  US 333 William Irwin 20 M School Teacher England

US 334 Murty Sullivan 28 M Laborer England US 335

Julia Dunnigan 18 F Servant England US 336 John Cryan

55 M Farmer England US 337 Cath Cryan 50 F Wife

England US 338 John Cryan 22 M Laborer England US 339

Hrornas Cryan 20 M Laborer England US 340 Honor ...

http://istg.rootsweb.com/v3/1800v3/bellewood18631212_02.html

, 18880 bytes

 

ISTG Vol 2 - City of Berlin

...  Labr England Cornwall NYork Lower Deck No1 Port 1

Prot.soj. 6 Rd. Stevens 52 Male Labr England Plymouth

Penn Lower Deck No1 Port 1 Prot.soj. 7 Ed Cryan 16

Male Labr England Oldham Mass Lower Deck No1 Port 1

Prot.soj. 8 John McKinner 24 Male Engr. England Lpool

Boston Lower Deck No1 Port 1 Prot.soj. ...

http://istg.rootsweb.com/v2/1800v2/berlinco18891019_205_408.html

, 33539 bytes

 

ISTG - Passenger Surnames: C

...  Ann CRUTT?N Barque Mahaica CRUTTAN Barque Mahaica

CRUTTON Barque Mahaica CRUY SS Canada CRUZ ARARYO,

CAPTAIN Brig Laura CRY?LER Ship London Packet CRYAN

City of Berlin CRYBILE Ship Friendship CRYEN Bark Abby

Land CRYFLER Ship London Packet CRYPLER Ship London

Packet CRYSMEYER Snow Two Sisters CRYSTAL ...

http://istg.rootsweb.com/v2/surnamesv2/splcr_v2.htm ,

67797 bytes

 

ISTG - Passenger Surnames: C

Immigrant Ships Transcribers Guild Passengers and

Captains Cr-Cz [A-Anc] [And-Az] [B-Bar] [Bas-Bej]

[Bek-Bib] [Bic-Bn] [Bo] [Br-Bri] [Brn-By] [C-Cd]

[Ce-Cn] [Co-Con] [Coo-Cp] [Cr-Cz] [D-Da] [De] [Dh-Dop]

[Dor-Dz] [E] [F-Fer] [Fes-Fn] [Fo-Fy] [G-Gei] [Gel-Gn]

[Go-Grd] [Gre-Gz] [H-Han] [Hap-Haz] [He ...

http://istg.rootsweb.com/v3/surnamesv3/splcr_v3.htm ,

97536 bytes

 

 

CRANE                  RMS Abyssinia SS Arizona SS

Caronia

                       City of Chester Ship Forest

King Barque Marengo

                       SS Plantagenet Steamer

Prometheus

CRANES                 SS City of Washington

CREA                   Brig Aliguash

CREAN                  SS Columbia SS Patagonia RMS

Teutonic

CRYAN                  Ship Belle Wood

CRYER                  Ship Gilbert

 

 

             

 

 

Search results for 'crean'

 

------------------------------------------------------------------------

Documents 1 - 9 of 9 matches. More 's indicate a

better match. 

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ISTG Vol 3 - SS Patagonia

...  Spinster Ireland USA Steerage 321 Maggie Cowles

19 F Spinster Ireland USA Steerage 322 Michl O'Leary

18 M Laborer Ireland USA Steerage 323* Hugh ?. Crean

22 M Laborer Ireland USA Steerage 324* Kate O'Re? 20 F

Spinster Ireland USA Steerage 325 Hanna O'Regan 20 F

Spinster Ireland USA Steerage 326 Celia ...

http://istg.rootsweb.com/v3/1800v3/patagonia18800515_2.html

, 27748 bytes

 

ISTG Vol 3 - SS Columbia

...  @ F Wife Foreigner Steerage 476* Johanna

Wesinberger @ F Spinster Foreigner Steerage 477* M

Fitzgerald @ M Laborer Ireland Steerage 478* Andrew

Crean @ M Laborer Ireland Steerage 479* Bridget Crean

@ F Wife Ireland Steerage 480* J D Citean @ M Clerk

Foreigner Steerage 481* Mary Bean @ F Spinster England

...

http://istg.rootsweb.com/v3/1800v3/columbia18631211_02.html

, 30919 bytes

 

ISTG - Ship Caroline Tucker

...  188 Pat Lahy 12 m Ireland 189 John Naughton 26 m

Laborer Ireland 190 E M Imans 26 m Laborer Ireland 191

John Morrow 22 m Laborer Ireland 192*Jas Crean 25 m

Laborer Ireland 193*Danl Gillispie 22 m Laborer

Ireland 194*Jas Irwin 22 m Laborer Ireland 195 Nancy A

Penkis 18 f Ireland 196*Robt Thomson 24 m ...

http://istg.rootsweb.com/1800/carolinetucker18550502.html

, 25818 bytes

 

ISTG Vol 3 - RMS Teutonic

Immigrant Ships Transcribers Guild RMS Teutonic Page 3

of 5 Liverpool, England Queenstown, Ireland to New

York 27 May 1891 DISTRICT OF NEW YORK - PORT OF NEW

YORK I, Peter John Irving, Master of the RMS

PAGE  952

 

 

PAGE  951

 

"Teutonic" do solemnly, sincerely and truly declare

that the following List or Manifest, subscribed ...

http://istg.rootsweb.com/v3/1800v3/teutonic18910527_03.html

, 54370 bytes

 

ISTG Vol 2 - Ship Ulysses

...  8 118 James Allen 10 119 Michael Roney 20 120

Michael McKenna 20 121 Michael McLuskey 20 122 Andrew

Ke??an * 20 123 Francis McKenna 20 124 Sally Crean 27

125 Jane Crean 24 126 Margaret Tear 18 127 Jane Stole

20 128 Adam Creen 7 129 Eliza Creen 2 130 Jackson

Johnson 63 131 Jane Johnson 60 132 Jonathan ...

http://istg.rootsweb.com/v2/1800v2/ulysses18340614.html

, 12155 bytes

 

ISTG - SS Italia

...  None Ireland US America Cabin Mrs. Maria Gill 45

F None Ireland US America Cabin Miss Edith Johnson 5 F

None Ireland US America Cabin Mr. A?diss? P. Crean 42

M None Ireland US America Cabin Transcriber's Notes:

An asterisk indicates an error on the part of the

original recorder not the transcriber. ...

http://istg.rootsweb.com/1800/italia18811114.html ,

7982 bytes

 

ISTG - Passenger Surnames: C

...  Ship Austral Ship Frankland CRAYON SS Scythia

CRE?F?? SS Suevia CREAGHAN RMS Abyssinia RMS Tuscania

CREAMER Brig George Henry CREAMOR Ship Manhattan CREAN

Ship Ulysses CREANE Ship Manhattan CREANY Ship

Manhattan CREAR SS Columbia CREBER RMS Abyssinia CREBO

RMS Abyssinia CRECK Ship William and Sarah ...

http://istg.rootsweb.com/v2/surnamesv2/splcr_v2.htm ,

67797 bytes

 

ISTG - Passenger Surnames: C

...  SS Ariel CREA Brig Aliguash CREABI??E Ship Ocean

Home CREABILLE Ship Ocean Home CREABITTE Ship Ocean

Home CREAGH Ship Pacific CREAMER Ship Jessica CREAN SS

Columbia SS Patagonia RMS Teutonic CREASY Ship Belle

Wood CREATON SS State of Georgia CREAUVER SS Anchoria

CREAVEN SS Caronia SS Caronia SS Scythia ...

http://istg.rootsweb.com/v3/surnamesv3/splcr_v3.htm ,

97536 bytes

 

ISTG - Passenger Surnames: C

...  SS Vega CRAY SS City of New York SS Germanic

CRAZO SS Nevada CRCU?EN SS State of Pennsylvania

CREAGH Ship Cynosure CREAK SS Abyssinia CREAMAN Molly

CREAN Ship Caroline Tucker SS Italia CREAPS Molly

CREASMANIN Samuel CREBIL Mortonhouse CREDE SS

Hohenzollern CREE SS Ethiopia CREED Ship Tarolinta SS

Wyoming ...

http://istg.rootsweb.com/surnames/splcr.htm , 56628

bytes

 

             

 

 

Search results for 'crehan'

 

------------------------------------------------------------------------

Documents 1 - 2 of 2 matches. More 's indicate a

better match. 

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ISTG Vol 3 - SS Etna

Immigrant Ships Transcribers Guild SS Etna Liverpool,

England via Queenstown, Ireland to New York 10

December 1863 DISTRICT OF NEW YORK - PORT OF NEW YORK

I, Patrick McGuigan, Master of the Steam Ship Etna do

Solemnly sincerely and truely swear that the following

List or Manifest, subscribed by me ...

http://istg.rootsweb.com/v3/1800v3/etna18631210.html ,

27796 bytes

 

ISTG - Passenger Surnames: C

...  SS Belgenland CREGAN SS Arizona RMS City of Rome

RMS City of Rome Ship Continent Ship Manhattan CREGG

RMS Abyssinia SS Beejapore SS Patagonia CREHAN SS Etna

CREIGH City of San Francisco Ship North Star CREIGHTON

Brig Acadian Ship Colombo Ship Empire State Ship Home

Ship Telamon CREINCL? SS Utopia CREITH ...

http://istg.rootsweb.com/v3/surnamesv3/splcr_v3.htm ,

97536 bytes

 

Date:   Fri, 25 Jan 2002 12:39:41 +0000 (GMT)

From:  "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> | Block Address  | Add to Address Book

Subject:          [Cryan et al.] Primary Records at RootsWeb [Cryans]

To:       CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Primary Records at RootsWeb containing Cryans

 

[scared.txt]

SACRED HEART CHURCH, Watson Township, Allegan County,

Michigan Burial Records Made available to The USGenWeb

Archives by Ryan Lapham - lapham@accn.org For name

searches, use the search or find function on your

browser. NAME DATE OF DATE OF AGE WHERE INTERRED IN

DEATH BURIAL BORN -------------------- ...

http://searches1.rootsweb.com/usgenweb/archives/mi/allegan/watson/cemetery/scared.txt

11/08/98, 41033 bytes

 

[2-40obit.txt]

LaPorte County Indiana Obit Index

================================================================================================================

Surname First Name Age@Death Mother Father Newspaper

Date

===============================================================================================

...

http://searches1.rootsweb.com/usgenweb/archives/in/laporte/obits/2-40obit.txt

08/24/98, 96611 bytes

 

[pg0024a.txt]

1870 Federal Census Door County, Wisconsin (File 6 of

15: Gardner) This Census was transcribed by Gene Hopp

and proofread by Deb McNelly for the USGenWeb Census

Project, http://www.rootsweb.com/~census/. Copyright

(c) 2001 by Gene Hopp

****************************************************************

...

http://searches1.rootsweb.com/usgenweb/archives/wi/door/census/1870/pg0024a.txt

04/01/01, 73020 bytes

 

[sarcem.txt]

Sargent County, ND Cemetery Transcriptions - Index,

Volume 20 Cemetery Inscription Index, Volume 20,

Cemeteries of North Dakota, published by the Red River

Valley Genealogy Society (RRVGS). This index scanned

and reformatted by Garnett J. Zsedeny with permission.

Volume 20 covers the following cemeteries ...

http://searches1.rootsweb.com/usgenweb/archives/nd/sargent/cemetery/sarcem.txt

03/29/00, 24726 bytes

 

[c-46.txt]

Muscogee COUNTY GA Military Co. D - 46th Regiment -

CSA File contributed for use in USGenWeb Archives by

ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/ga/muscogee/military/civilwar/rosters/c-46.txt

======================== USGENWEB NOTICE: In keeping

with our policy of providing free information on the

Internet ...

http://searches1.rootsweb.com/usgenweb/archives/ga/muscogee/military/c-46.txt

10/21/01, 33774 bytes

 

[gsi072.txt]

GEORGIA CIVIL WAR SOLDIER INDEX - Page 72 - Crump thru

Cuner 44876-45491 Compiled and formatted by Keith

Giddeon Info and F.A.Q. at

http://www.rootsweb.com/~gagenweb/military/gsi/index.html

====================================================================

USGENWEB NOTICE: In keeping with our policy ...

http://searches1.rootsweb.com/usgenweb/archives/ga/military/civilwar/gsi/gsi072.txt

12/10/01, 127234 bytes

 

[c46.txt]

Muscogee COUNTY GA Military Co. C - 46th Regiment -

CSA File contributed for use in USGenWeb Archives by

ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/ga/muscogee/military/civilwar/rosters/c-46.txt

======================== USGENWEB NOTICE: In keeping

with our policy of providing free information on the

Internet ...

http://searches1.rootsweb.com/usgenweb/archives/ga/muscogee/military/c46.txt

10/21/01, 34024 bytes

 

[new_obit1.txt]

INDEX TO IOSCO COUNTY MICHIGAN NEWSPAPERS

(obituaries): 1978-1990s November 23 1992 Introduction

Copyright ª1992 by the Huron Shores Genealogical

Society. This booklet was published by the Huron Shore

Genealogical Society (HSGS), c/o Robert J Parks Public

Library, 6010 N Skeel Ave, Oscoda MI 48750. Listed ...

http://searches1.rootsweb.com/usgenweb/archives/mi/iosco/hsgs/newspaper/new_obit1.txt

03/11/01, 127856 bytes

 

[1923atlas.txt]

Index to Roberts Co. SD Atlas (1923) This file is an

index to "Plat Book of Roberts County South Dakota

1923", complied by F. C. Carriel, Sisseton, SD. Index

compiled by Joy Fisher, 1997. This work copyrighted by

Joy Fisher, 1997. This file may be freely copied by

individuals and non-profit organizations ...

http://searches1.rootsweb.com/usgenweb/archives/sd/roberts/land/1923atlas.txt

12/17/97, 463054 bytes

 

[chestnuthilld.txt]

CHESTNUT HILL CEMETERY, CATTARAUGUS COUNTY, NEW YORK

Copyright (c) 2001 by Kay Anderson

(kmanderson@froggernet.com).

************************************************************************

USGENWEB NOTICE: These electronic pages may NOT be

reproduced in any format for profit or presentation by

any other ...

http://searches1.rootsweb.com/usgenweb/archives/ny/cattaraugus/cemeteries/chestnuthilld.txt

01/08/02, 182446 bytes

 

[wwibnvCop_Da.txt]

WORLD WAR I CIVILIAN DRAFT REGISTRATIONS Bonneville

County, Idaho - 1917-1918 SURNAME INDEX: COPE thru

DAYTON Indexed and submitted for use by the USGenWeb

Project and IDGenWeb Project Archives, by Raymond H

Banks, 24 January 1998 USGenWeb Project NOTICE In

keeping with our policy of providing free ...

http://searches1.rootsweb.com/usgenweb/archives/id/bonneville/bnvwwi/wwibnvCop_Da.txt

03/29/98, 29663 bytes

 

[indx-a-e.txt]

1870 Federal Census Door County, Wisconsin (Index:

File 1 of 4) This Census was transcribed by IdaKay

Orsted and Gene Hopp and proofread by Deb McNelly for

the USGenWeb Census Project,

http://www.rootsweb.com/~census/. Copyright (c) 2001

by IdaKay Orsted and Gene Hopp

******************************* ...

http://searches1.rootsweb.com/usgenweb/archives/wi/door/census/1870/indx-a-e.txt

04/01/01, 108178 bytes

 

[turn-ad.txt]

SDGENWEB File -- Turner Co. SD -- Federal Land Records

-- Names "A" - "D" This file is a part of the Bureau

of Land Management Database for the states of Montana,

North Dakota, and South Dakota. Data edited and

prepared by Joy Fisher, jfisher@ucla.edu. This file

may be freely copied by individuals and ...

http://searches1.rootsweb.com/usgenweb/archives/sd/turner/land/turn-ad.txt

07/05/99, 92004 bytes

 

[co.txt]

Cemetery Index for Cascade County Montana CEMETERY

CODE LAST UPDATED Old Highland Cemetery OHLD June 24

1997 New Highland Cemetery NHLD June 24 1997

Manchester Cemetery MANCH June 24 1997 Fort Shaw

Military FORTSM " Fort Shaw Cemetery FORTS " Sun River

Cemetery SUNRIVER " SunRiver Colony SUNRIVERC " ...

http://searches1.rootsweb.com/usgenweb/archives/mt/cascade/indexcemetery/co.txt

07/13/99, 44525 bytes

 

[cascemc2.txt]

CASCADE COUNTY CEMETERY INDEX Co - Cz Indexed and

contributed for use in USGenWeb Project by: Paul

Ingels Robin "Missy" Phillips USGENWEB NOTICE: These

electronic pages may NOT be reproduced in any format

for profit or presentation by any other organization

or persons. Persons or organizations desiring ...

http://searches1.rootsweb.com/usgenweb/archives/mt/cascade/cemetery/cascemc2.txt

03/31/98, 54281 bytes

 

[hard-c2.txt]

SDGENWEB File -- Harding Co. SD -- Federal Land

Records -- Names "CLARKE" - "CUSHMAN" This file is a

part of the Bureau of Land Management Database for the

states of Montana, North Dakota, and South Dakota.

Data edited and prepared by Joy Fisher,

jfisher@ucla.edu. This file may be freely copied by

individuals ...

http://searches1.rootsweb.com/usgenweb/archives/sd/harding/land/hard-c2.txt

06/16/99, 87327 bytes

 

[coaststarobits02.txt]

Obits: Generally 1970-1990, C Surnames, The Coast

Star, Monmouth Co, NJ. Contributed for use in USGenWeb

Archives by Anne West. USGENWEB ARCHIVES NOTICE:

Printing this file within by non-commercial

individuals and libraries is encouraged, as long as

all notices and submitter information is included. ...

http://searches1.rootsweb.com/usgenweb/archives/nj/monmouth/obits/coaststarobits02.txt

08/18/01, 106084 bytes

 

[i53202.txt]

Index of obitucaries in the Holland Sentinelfor

1930-1931, Holland, Ottawa County, Michigan Copyright

© 1999 by Patrick Rademaker. This copy contributed for

the use in the USGenWeb Archives. USGENWEB NOTICE: In

keeping with our policy of providing free information

on the Internet, data may be freely ...

http://searches1.rootsweb.com/usgenweb/archives/mi/ottawa/multiple/index/i53202.txt

06/12/99, 142820 bytes

 

Date:   Fri, 25 Jan 2002 12:43:57 +0000 (GMT)

From:  "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> | Block Address  | Add to Address Book

Subject:          [Cryan et al.] Primary Records at RootsWeb [Creans]

To:       CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Primary Records at RootsWeb containing Creans

 

[gtcemndx.txt]

Index of various Cemeteries near Good Thunder, Blue

Earth Co., MN USGENWEB NOTICE: In keeping with our

policy of providing free information on the Internet,

material may be freely used by non-commercial

entities, as long as this message remains on all

copied material, AND permission is obtained from ...

http://searches1.rootsweb.com/usgenweb/archives/mn/blueearth/cemetery/gtcemndx.txt

11/05/01, 32453 bytes

 

[pg00864.txt]

Carbon Co, PA 1860 Federal Census Kidder Township 2 of

2 This Census was transcribed by Roxanne Eckenrode and

proofread by Dolores Rogers for the USGenWeb Census

Project, http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/census/.

Copyright 2000 by Roxanne Eckenrode

************************************************** ...

http://searches1.rootsweb.com/usgenweb/archives/pa/carbon/census/1860/pg00864.txt

04/30/00, 103279 bytes

 

[germans5.txt]

Lincoln, Lancaster Co., NE; 1920 Federal Census

Extraction, Germans from Russia Pt. 5 USGenWeb Project

NOTICE: In keeping with our policy of providing free

information on the internet, data may be used by

non-commercial researchers, as long as this message

remains on all copied material. These electronic ...

http://searches1.rootsweb.com/usgenweb/archives/ne/lancaster/census/1920/germans5.txt

09/01/01, 113281 bytes

 

[clayfild.txt]

Clayfield Catholic Cemetery Ellsworth Township, Pierce

County, Wisconsin Contributed for use in USGenWeb

Archives 12/31/1999 by Debbie Barrett

MrsGrinnin@aol.com

************************************************************************

USGENWEB ARCHIVES NOTICE: These electronic pages may

NOT be reproduced ...

http://searches1.rootsweb.com/usgenweb/archives/wi/pierce/cemetery/clayfild.txt

01/01/00, 21094 bytes

 

[willbkg.txt]

Wills: Abstracts 1803-1809: Will Book G: Cumberland

Co, PA Contributed for use in USGenWeb Archives by

Thera Schwenk-Hammond tsh@harborside.com USGENWEB

ARCHIVES NOTICE: Printing this file within by

non-commercial individuals and libraries is

encouraged, as long as all notices and submitter

information ...

http://searches1.rootsweb.com/usgenweb/archives/pa/cumberland/wills/willbkg.txt

09/21/01, 90456 bytes

 

[well-cf.txt]

Wells county, ND, BLM Records - Surnames "C-F" Data

edited and prepared by Joy Fisher, jfisher@ucla.edu.

This file may be freely copied by individuals and

non-profit organizations for their private use. All

other rights reserved. Formatted for the NDGenWeb

Archives by Joe Zsedeny, jzsed@slic.com. Any ...

http://searches1.rootsweb.com/usgenweb/archives/nd/wells/land/well-cf.txt

08/14/99, 89220 bytes

 

[willabstc-e.txt]

Wills: C-E Surnames: Will Abstracts 1729-1819:

Lancaster Co, PA Contributed for use in USGenWeb

Archives by Thera USGENWEB ARCHIVES NOTICE: Printing

this file within by non-commercial individuals and

libraries is encouraged, as long as all notices and

submitter information is included. Any other use ...

http://searches1.rootsweb.com/usgenweb/archives/pa/lancaster/wills/willabstc-e.txt

10/28/01, 126827 bytes

 

[dewy-c2.txt]

SDGENWEB File -- Dewey Co. SD -- Federal Land Records

-- Names "COMB" - "CZUPRYNSKI" This file is a part of

the Bureau of Land Management Database for the states

of Montana, North Dakota, and South Dakota. Data

edited and prepared by Joy Fisher, jfisher@ucla.edu.

This file may be freely copied by individuals ...

http://searches1.rootsweb.com/usgenweb/archives/sd/dewey/land/dewy-c2.txt

06/18/99, 80553 bytes

 

[willbke.txt]

Wills: Abstracts 1785-1795: Will Book E: Cumberland

Co, PA Contributed for use in USGenWeb Archives by

Thera Schwenk-Hammond tsh@harborside.com USGENWEB

ARCHIVES NOTICE: Printing this file within by

non-commercial individuals and libraries is

encouraged, as long as all notices and submitter

information ...

http://searches1.rootsweb.com/usgenweb/archives/pa/cumberland/wills/willbke.txt

10/02/01, 100696 bytes

 

[1890his2b.txt]

Hall County, Nebraska, 1890 History, Chapter XXIV,

File 2 USGenWeb Project NOTICE: In keeping with our

policy of providing free information on the internet,

data may be used by non-commercial researchers, as

long as this message remains on all copied material.

These electronic pages may not be reproduced ...

http://searches1.rootsweb.com/usgenweb/archives/ne/hall/history/1890his2b.txt

03/02/01, 34089 bytes

 

[indx-c.txt]

Carbon Co, PA 1860 Federal Census C Surnames (INDEX

file) This Census was transcribed by Roxanne Eckenrode

and proofread by Dolores Rogers for the USGenWeb

Census Project,

http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/census/. Copyright

2000 by Roxanne Eckenrode

************************************************* ...

http://searches1.rootsweb.com/usgenweb/archives/pa/carbon/census/1860/indx-c.txt

04/30/00, 83489 bytes

 

[c-4.txt]

Bios: Cr-Cy SURNAME Index to "Colonial Families of

Philadelphia," Philadelphia, PA This file contains a

part of the every name index to "Colonial Families in

Philadelphia", edited by John W. Jordan, published by

Lewis Publishers of New York in 1911 in 2 volumes.

Index compiled and © by Hamilton Computer ...

http://searches1.rootsweb.com/usgenweb/archives/pa/philadelphia/bios/cfofphil/c-4.txt

04/10/00, 74711 bytes

 

[mar20003.txt]

MARRIAGES: THE COURIER, TERREBONNE PARISH HOUMA, LA

JULY - SEPTEMBER 2000 Contributed by Lou Landry

****************************************************************************

USGenWeb NOTICE: Libraries and individual researchers

may download this file for personal, noncommercial use

only. Any other ...

http://searches1.rootsweb.com/usgenweb/archives/la/terrebon/marriages/2000/mar20003.txt

01/13/01, 113187 bytes

 

[willbkh.txt]

Wills: Abstracts 1809-1817: Will Book H: Cumberland

Co, PA Contributed for use in USGenWeb Archives by

Thera Schwenk-Hammond tsh@harborside.com USGENWEB

ARCHIVES NOTICE: Printing this file within by

non-commercial individuals and libraries is

encouraged, as long as all notices and submitter

information ...

http://searches1.rootsweb.com/usgenweb/archives/pa/cumberland/wills/willbkh.txt

09/15/01, 108258 bytes

 

[deed_t_u.txt]

BERGEN COUNTY DEEDS (BOOK T U), BERGEN COUNTY, NJ

==============================================================================

USGENWEB NOTICE: In keeping with our policy of

providing free information on the Internet, data may

be used by non-commercial entities, as long as this

message remains on all ...

http://searches1.rootsweb.com/usgenweb/archives/nj/bergen/land/deed_t_u.txt

03/15/99, 72603 bytes

 

[wwibngCO_DE.txt]

WORLD WAR I CIVILIAN DRAFT REGISTRATIONS Bingham

County, Idaho - 1917-1918 SURNAME INDEX: COATNEY thru

DENTON Indexed and submitted for use by the USGenWeb

Project and IDGenWeb Project Archives, by Raymond H

Banks, 17 January 1998 USGenWeb Project NOTICE In

keeping with our policy of providing free ...

http://searches1.rootsweb.com/usgenweb/archives/id/bingham/bngwwi/wwibngCO_DE.txt

03/09/98,

 

[nats-cd.txt]

Rockland County, NY -- Naturalization Records Index -

Cole to Das

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[1900dla2.txt]

1900 Orleans Parish Death Index - C through E Orleans

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[thommarr.txt]

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[a1998bai.txt]

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[groomcd.txt]

Pre-1907 Pierce County, Wisconsin Marriages Groom

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[1910pion.txt]

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[nw1799.txt]

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[willabstrbk8a.txt]

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[glenn.txt]

Glenn County, CA - Index to Federal Land Patents

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[a-cenihist.txt]

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Date:   Fri, 25 Jan 2002 12:45:28 +0000 (GMT)

From:  "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> | Block Address  | Add to Address Book

Subject:          [Cryan et al.] Primary Records at RootsWeb [Crehans]

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Primary Records at RootsWeb containing Crehans

 

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[v2-3-ce.txt]

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[1851di.txt]

1851 Orleans Parish Death Index Orleans Parish

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[cd.txt]

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[1888bimq.txt]

1888 Orleans Parish Birth Index - M through Q Orleans

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[Br-c.txt]

Baton Rouge National Cemetery Baton Rouge, Louisiana

File C Name Date of Burial Rank Death "CAFFRY,

SYLVESTER" 05 MAR 1905 SERGEANT "CAHILL, JAMES J." 30

OCT 1957 PRIVATE "CAL, WILLIE" 09 MAR 1946 T4

"CALAMAN, JAMES" 28 AUG 1866 PRIVATE "CALDERWOOD, EBEN

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[Br-c.txt]

Baton Rouge National Cemetery Baton Rouge, Louisiana

File C Name Date of Burial Rank Death "CAFFRY,

SYLVESTER" 05 MAR 1905 SERGEANT "CAHILL, JAMES J." 30

OCT 1957 PRIVATE "CAL, WILLIE" 09 MAR 1946 T4

"CALAMAN, JAMES" 28 AUG 1866 PRIVATE "CALDERWOOD, EBEN

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From:  "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> | Block Address  | Add to Address Book

Subject:          [Cryan et al.] ancestry.com Cryan messages

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See ancestry.com url below for the following messages.

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http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/board/an/surnames.cryan

 

Austin Cryan and his wife Josaphine  :  Dan Cryan  -- 

14 Dec 2001

*           John and Catherine Cryan - Ship Manifest Belle Wood

1863  :  Maureen  --  13 Dec 2001

*           Cincinnati Cryans  :  Kevin Cryan  --  9 Jul 2001

*           New Jersey Cryan or Hoffman family  :  Dottie Cryan

Chegwidden  --  18 Apr 2001

*           Cryan  :  edna fuller  --  25 Feb 2001

 

*           Cryan surname in Michigan in 1945  :  Mary Jo  --  6

Mar 2001

 

*           Cryan  :  edna fuller  --  7 Mar 2001

 

*           Cryan  :  Mary Jo  --  7 Mar 2001

 

*           Cryan  :  edna fuller  --  8 Mar 2001

 

*           Cryan  :  Mary Jo  --  21 Mar 2001

*           Cryan's of Lowell  :  Joan Ogg  --  7 Jun 2001

 

*           Re: Cryan's of Lowell  :  Rosalie Cryan  --  23 Aug

2001

 

*           Re: Cryan's of Lowell  :  Rosalie Cryan  --  23 Aug

2001

*           Re: Cryan  :  rebekah  --  5 Jan 2002

*           Cryan  :  Gerry Tremblay  --  14 Feb 2001

*           My Crine/Cryan Family Line  :  Eileen  --  3 Nov

2000

*           Cryan fam. in New Jersey?  :  Dottie  --  2 Oct 2000

*           Brigid Cryan, Boyle, Co. Roscommon  :  Joan Ogg  -- 

11 Aug 2000

 

*           Brigid Cryan's parents  :  A. Riley  --  12 Sep 2000

 

*           Brigid Cryan  :  Joan Ogg  --  12 Sep 2000

*           Catherine Cryan born in Ireland  :  Chet  --  9 Aug

2000

*           Cryan's from New Jersey  :  Kathleen Jordan  --  23

Jul 2000

 

*           Cryan's in N.J.  :  Dottie Cryan Chegwidden  --  27

Oct 2000

 

*           Cryan's in NJ  :  Kathleen Jordan  --  27 Oct 2000

*           jermaine cryan  :  julia cook  --  14 May 2000

 

Date:   Fri, 25 Jan 2002 13:18:54 +0000 (GMT)

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Subject:          [Cryan et al.] ancestry.com cryan messages 1-49 of 201

To:       CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

See ancestry.com url below for the following messages.

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http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?f=search&r=an&p=surnames.cryan&application=public&query=cryan&filter=

 

            1. Cryans

Author: Kevin Cryan   Date: 7 Feb 1999

Board: Boards > Localities > United Kingdom and

Ireland > Ireland > Leitrim > General

Hi Delighted to see info on cryans on your list.My new

email address is caoimhghin@yahoo.com Rgards Kevin

Cryan

 

2. Cryan Family

Author: Barbara Wicks   Date: 8 Feb 1999

Board: Boards > Localities > United Kingdom and

Ireland > Ireland > Leitrim > General

Trying to locate any birth, death, marriage records

for the above relatives. I have my Grandmother's birth

certificate. Anne Cryan was born in Boyle, Co.

Roscommon, Ireland on April 4, 1869. Her ...

 

3. Cryan/Keaney/Flynn

Author: Jean Rice   Date: 9 Feb 1999

Board: Boards > Localities > United Kingdom and

Ireland > Ireland > Leitrim > General

Hi, just addiing your surnames to the above dictation

at this Co. Leitrim Queries website so they get on the

Surname List; otherwise, they are alphabetized by the

first name. Did you check the ...

 

4. CRYAN,CORNELIUS THOMAS

Author: r n   Date: 11 Jun 2001

Board: Boards > Localities > United Kingdom and

Ireland > Ireland > Leitrim > General

looking for info on (cornelius thomas cryan) born?

died? who was his father? His wife was Effie Hall and

they had twin boys on 25 oct1932 (James Glynn and John

Lynn). the following dates ...

 

5. Re: CRYAN,CORNELIUS THOMAS

Author: Stephanie Stephens   Date: 5 Dec 2001

Board: Boards > Localities > United Kingdom and

Ireland > Ireland > Leitrim > General

Cornelius Thomas Cryan, b. July 27, 1890 is my

grandfather. One of the twin boys, James Glynn, is my

father. I don't know if this helps. Cornelius' father

is Austin Cryan.

 

6. Michael and Bridget (Foley) Cryan

Author: Dottie (Cryan) Chegwidden   Date: 2 Sep 2000

Board: Boards > Localities > United Kingdom and

Ireland > Ireland > Leitrim > General

I understand that Michael Cryan and Bridget Foley

Cryan were born in Ireland and that they had several

children born there, including: John P., Mary A.,

Nellie T., Margaret J. I am not sure if any of ...

 

7. Michael and Bridget Foley Cryan

Author: Dottie (Cryan) Chegwidden   Date: 5 Sep 2000

Board: Boards > Localities > United Kingdom and

Ireland > Ireland > Leitrim > General

I have been blessed with more information. Michael and

Bridget were married in Sept. 4, 1864. Children John

P., Ann, Mary A., Annie, Bridget, Nora E.and Margaret

J. were born in Ireland. The baptism ...

 

8. Crien (Cryan)

Author: Jean Rice   Date: 5 Sep 2000

Board: Boards > Localities > United Kingdom and

Ireland > Ireland > Leitrim > General

Dottie - Just adding this surname spelling you found

on a document to the Surname List; another researcher

may be looking for this "misspelling" and will find

your post in this way. Jean

 

9. Cryan

Author: Paul Daniel   Date: 17 Dec 2000

Board: Boards > Localities > United Kingdom and

Ireland > Ireland > Leitrim > General

Hello, Like you, I am searching. I have my wife's

grandfather being an Arthur P. Cryan, of Lowell. He is

still alive, and will turn 90 this coming year, God

willing. His father was a second John ...

 

10. Cryan - Roscommon-Mayo-Argentina

Author: Jean Rice   Date: 8 May 2001

Board: Boards > Localities > United Kingdom and

Ireland > Ireland > Leitrim > General

Silvia, While I have no personal connection to your

surname, I want to thank you for sharing your

information that is extremely valuable as it provides

the Roscommon-Mayo-Argentina connection. Jean

 

11. Cryan Addendum -- Also Co. Sligo-Argentina

Connection

Author: Jean Rice   Date: 8 May 2001

Board: Boards > Localities > United Kingdom and

Ireland > Ireland > Leitrim > General

Addendum, see above, also Co. Sligo connection.

 

12. Sligo-Roscommon-Mayo-Argentina

Author: Silvia Cryan   Date: 9 May 2001

Board: Boards > Localities > United Kingdom and

Ireland > Ireland > Leitrim > General

You're welcome Jean, I didn't know that you didn't

have anyone under my name from Argentina or that you

didn't your of the Cryan Branch there. I will ask my

dad and I will give you the exact details ...

 

13. Croal/Cryan/Creegan -

Bredin/Cullen/Kerrigan/Murray/Carty/Keirnan/Nicholls/McGarry/Gallogely

Author: Jean Rice   Date: 23 May 1999

Board: Boards > Localities > United Kingdom and

Ireland > Ireland > Leitrim > General

Please click on Surname List at the top of the Co.

Leitrim IR Queries (Genconnect-Rootsweb) website for

more information and queries regarding these surnames,

and please also leave your own query at ...

 

14. A Little Bit of Ireland

Author: Dottie (Cryan) Chegwidden   Date: 16 Sep 2000

Board: Boards > Localities > United Kingdom and

Ireland > Ireland > Leitrim > General

This site recommended by Jean has many of the surnames

listed in a variety of lists: baptisms, tax records,

wills, etc. I did not see Cryan as a spelling.

 

15. Cryan in New Jersey

Author: Dottie (Cryan) Chegwidden   Date: 8 Sep 2000

Board: Boards > Localities > United Kingdom and

Ireland > Ireland > Leitrim > General

Should anyone have obituaries or cemetery information

for Catherine Dubey Cryan , died somewhere about April

30, 1931? (born about 1905 in Cambridge, MA, maybe)

maybe buried in Newark or Irvington, ...

 

16. Cryan's in NJ

Author: Kathleen   Date: 10 Sep 2000

Board: Boards > Localities > United Kingdom and

Ireland > Ireland > Leitrim > General

Just saw your post and thought I'd let you know there

are Cryan's in New Jersey who own Irish pubs. One in

particular that I know of is in South Orange, NJ -

Cryan's Pub. They have been there quite ...

 

17. Cryan's in N.J.

Author: Dottie (Cryan) Chegwidden   Date: 16 Sep 2000

Board: Boards > Localities > United Kingdom and

Ireland > Ireland > Leitrim > General

Thanks Kathleen. I heard that the one pub in N.J.

called Cryan's was not owned by the fam. any longer,

but I'll check them out. Thanks. Dottie

 

18. Cryan-L-request @rootsweb.com

Author: Allan F. Crane(Cryan)   Date: 4 Jul 1999

Board: Boards > Localities > United Kingdom and

Ireland > Ireland > Sligo > General

I am interesyted in joing the mailing list

Cryan-L-request@rootsweb.com. How do I do that?

 

19. Rich Wall GONoles@aol.com

Author: Allan F. Crane(Cryan)   Date: 6 Jul 1999

Board: Boards > Localities > United Kingdom and

Ireland > Ireland > Sligo > General

Rich Wall, Wrote an extensive email to you at the aol

address shown. I am informed and baffled that you are

not accepting mail from my account.We have never met

nor exchanged any email in the ...

 

20. Crane, Cryan, Crean, Crain mailing list

Author: A. Riley   Date: 18 Nov 1999

Board: Boards > Localities > United Kingdom and

Ireland > Ireland > Sligo > General

I've joined the list -- is there an archive on the

web? I'm researching backwards from g-g-gfather

Patrick Crain, born in Co. Sligo about 1834. His

father John Crain died about 1848 of sunstroke ...

 

21. Re: Crane, Cryan, Crean, Crain mailing list

Author: JIM WELCH   Date: 4 Aug 2001

Board: Boards > Localities > United Kingdom and

Ireland > Ireland > Sligo > General

HI, IHAVE A CRANE BY THE NAME OF PATRICK IN MY FAMILY

TREE HE TOO CAME FROM CO SLIGO. I AM ALSO HAVING

TROUBLE WITH THE SAME POSSIABLE NAME CHANGE. THE DATE

MY PATRICK WAS BORN IS ABT 1827 I WONDER ...

 

22. Re: Crane, Cryan, Crean, Crain mailing list

Author: A, Riley   Date: 6 Aug 2001

Board: Boards > Localities > United Kingdom and

Ireland > Ireland > Sligo > General

The only brother we know of is Mark Cryan/Crane/Crain,

born about 1806. He also went to Wisconsin, and

settled near his sister-in-law and her children. There

could be others -- but we don't know! ...

 

23. Re: Crane, Cryan, Crean, Crain mailing list

Author: merle crain   Date: 15 Sep 2001

Board: Boards > Localities > United Kingdom and

Ireland > Ireland > Sligo > General

we are looking for information on a wellington

crane/crain living in marquette county wisconsin. can

you help? Thanks

 

24. Cryan Family - Shroove, County Roscommon

Author: edna fuller   Date: 1 Jan 2002

Board: Boards > Localities > United Kingdom and

Ireland > Ireland > Roscommon > General

I have been researching my paternal Grandmother's

family for about 3 years now. Her name was Honora

Cryan (Lydon), born to John "Sonny" Cryan and Honoria

(Lavin) on 08-26-1877, the second of 4 ...

 

25. Re: Cryan Family - Shroove, County Roscommon

Author: Adrienne Newton   Date: 3 Jan 2002

Board: Boards > Localities > United Kingdom and

Ireland > Ireland > Roscommon > General

We have also a Honoria Lavin in our tree. She married

Patrick King and their son Thomas b abt1837 married

Mary Meighan/Meehan and they emigrated to Australia

1865. Could she be a generation back from ...

 

            26. Re: Cryan Family - Shroove, County Roscommon

Author: EDNA FULLER   Date: 4 Jan 2002

Board: Boards > Localities > United Kingdom and

Ireland > Ireland > Roscommon > General

There could be a connection here, but I am not sure

how. I have very little information about my

grandmother's mother ecept her name. I just wrote to

the geneolgy society in Co. Roscommon, and when ...

 

27. Cryan mailing list

Author: Michael Tobin   Date: 19 Aug 1999

Board: Boards > Localities > United Kingdom and

Ireland > Ireland > Sligo > General

Connie, You should consider joining the Cryan mailing

list which has a number of people on the list who are

researching the name Cryan in Co. Sligo and in Co.

Roscommon, mostly in the ...

 

28. Cryan Family

Author: Diana L. Cryan Brown   Date: 20 Jan 2000

Board: Boards > Localities > United Kingdom and

Ireland > Ireland > Sligo > General

Rogers County, Oklahoma

 

29. Cryan from Sligo

Author: A. Riley   Date: 3 May 2000

Board: Boards > Localities > United Kingdom and

Ireland > Ireland > Sligo > General

Connie, our g-g-gmother Atty Cryan, who came over in

1848, had a daughter Sarah and a son John, among

others. Sarah was about 11 when they emigrated. Atty's

husband John Cryan died in Ireland before ...

 

30. Looking for Cryan

Author: Charlie Brown   Date: 2 Apr 2000

Board: Boards > Localities > United Kingdom and

Ireland > Ireland > Sligo > General

You might also look for Crean, of which there are/were

a bunch in Co. Sligo. Charlie Brown

 

31. ONeil Cryan family

Author: Connie   Date: 11 Jun 2000

Board: Boards > Localities > North America > United

States > States > California > Unknown

Died 1984 in San Diego. Trying to find relatives so we

can prove relationship between my Cryan family and a

County Sligo Cryan family. ONeil Cryan's father was

Matthew Cryan. Oneil's mother's maiden ...

 

32. James E. CRYAN

Author: deb Christensen   Date: 2 Sep 2000

Board: Boards > Localities > North America > United

States > States > California > Counties > Fresno

Fresno Bee Monday, July 21, 1947 James E. CRYAN James

E. CRYAN, about 73, a former conductor for the Santa

Fe Railway Company, died Saturday in Bedford VA after

an illness of two ...

 

33. bennewith family

Author: Heather Cryan   Date: 19 Sep 2001

Board: Boards > Surnames > Bennewith

I am a Bennewith descendant, my grandmother was Jane

Bennewith born London in 1902. Her parents were Harry

Bennewith and Ellen Davies. Her grandparents were

William Alfred Bennewith and Sarah ...

 

34. Burns/Igo

Author: Dottie Cryan Chegwidden   Date: 27 Oct 2000

Board: Boards > Surnames > Burns

I would like to find anyone related to or knowing of

Mary Burns who married Patrick Igo in Lawrence, MA on

Aug. 20, 1870. Mary's parents are listed as Bryan

Burns and Sarah? Mary was listed, as was ...

 

35. CRAIN/CRANE/CRYAN family, from Ireland, 1848

Author: A. Riley   Date: 22 Mar 2001

Board: Boards > Surnames > Crain

Our Crain family emigrated from County Sligo, Ireland,

in 1848. They were mother Atty and her kids Winifred,

Sarah, Mary, Anne, Patrick, Timothy, John, James,

Michael, Mark. All the kids were ...

 

36. Re: CRAIN/CRANE/CRYAN family, from Ireland, 1848

Author: merle crain   Date: 24 Sep 2001

Board: Boards > Surnames > Crain

Can you tell me which Cranes of Wiconsin have

contacted you. The Cranes of Wsconsin that I am

interested in are from the Green Lake area. Green lake

County of Marquette County. Thanks Merle ...

 

37. Re: CRAIN/CRANE/CRYAN family, from Ireland, 1848

Author: A. Riley   Date: 29 Nov 2001

Board: Boards > Surnames > Crain

Merle, the Wisconsin Crains I've linked up with are

mostly from around Fond du Lac County, although many

have scattered -- Colorado, Florida, Arizona. None of

our Crain cousins we've found so far ...

 

38. Re: CRAIN/CRANE/CRYAN family, from Ireland, 1848

Author: merle crain   Date: 29 Nov 2001

Board: Boards > Surnames > Crain

Thank you for the post. Most appreciated. We are from

Green Lake county which is right next to Fond du Lac

County. Our ancestor was Wellington W. Crane (he later

changed the spelling to Crain ...

 

39. Re: CRAIN/CRANE/CRYAN family, from Ireland, 1848

Author: A. Riley   Date: 29 Nov 2001

Board: Boards > Surnames > Crain

Merle, our people did go through Oneida County on

their way west, but no one stayed there. Wasn't Oneida

County the west end of the Erie Canal, and where

people would get a steamship to go across the ...

 

40. Re: CRAIN/CRANE/CRYAN family, from Ireland, 1848

Author: merle crain   Date: 29 Nov 2001

Board: Boards > Surnames > Crain

A. Thanks for the quick response. I'll try the Cryan-L

list. Merle

 

41. Re: CRAIN/CRANE/CRYAN family, from Ireland, 1848

Author: Charles Crane   Date: 27 Nov 2001

Board: Boards > Surnames > Crain

I am desended from Dominic Crane b1832 Co Mayo.

Dominic had a number of brothers: Patrick Cryan,killed

in civil War in 1864, Larry Crean lived in Girardville

Pa.and was a well known Molly Maguire. ...

 

42. Re: CRAIN/CRANE/CRYAN family, from Ireland, 1848

Author: Charles Crane   Date: 28 Nov 2001

Board: Boards > Surnames > Crain

Hello again! Yesterday I recieved a very quick

responce re a message about the Cranes, Creans,

Cryans. I received two responces one from

Clive@plusnet.P and another from mwilcox@ ismi.ne,

however ...

 

43. Re: CRAIN/CRANE/CRYAN family, from Ireland, 1848

Author: Rich Lowe   Date: 29 Nov 2001

Board: Boards > Surnames > Crain

The reason your message to them bouced is that they

have the BadTrans birus and their original message to

you was no doubt modified and had an underscore "_"

ahead of their real email address. Any ...

 

44. Cregan, Cryan, Crean et al. mailing list

Author: Leslie Poché   Date: 29 May 2000

Board: Boards > Surnames > Cregan

Email "Cryan-L-request@rootsweb.com" and place only

the word "subscribe" in the message body (all w/o

quotes). Hope you'll join in on the conversation!

 

45. Frank Crehan

Author: Crystal Hamel   Date: 22 Apr 2001

Board: Boards > Surnames > Crehan

Try the CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com web page. They have so

much Crehan info. with all spellings of the name. You

might find something there.

 

46. father's history

Author: patricia Cryan   Date: 28 Mar 1999

Board: Boards > Surnames > Cryan

any Cryan's out there?

 

47. Your search for Cryan

Author: Don Crynes   Date: 18 May 1999

Board: Boards > Surnames > Cryan

The name of Cryan, is also the irish name for crynes.

I have some info you might be interested in, just

e-mail me.

 

48. Cryan Info

Author: Alan Anderson   Date: 29 Jun 1999

Board: Boards > Surnames > Cryan

My wife has a number of Cryan members in Michigan on

her side of the family. We are still looking for more

to add to her family tree. Would be interested to know

if any of yours are related. Please ...

 

49. cryan

Author: Patricia   Date: 1 Mar 2000

Board: Boards > Surnames > Cryan

I was born a cryan father from Lowell, via canada I

beleive, had two brothers, one Thomas, One edward,

 

Date:   Fri, 25 Jan 2002 13:20:09 +0000 (GMT)

From:  "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> | Block Address  | Add to Address Book

Subject:          [Cryan et al.] ancestry.com cryan messages 50-100 of 201

To:       CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

See ancestry.com url below for the following messages.

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http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?f=search&r=an&p=surnames.cryan&application=public&query=cryan&filter=

 

50. walter francis Cryan

Author: Pat   Date: 2 Mar 2000

Board: Boards > Surnames > Cryan

Karen, can you help me regarding my father? Thank you

 

            51. Cryan e-mail list

Author: Eileen   Date: 5 Nov 1999

Board: Boards > Surnames > Cryan

I'm interested in the E-mail list of Cryan's. My

grandmother was a Crine but some of her fathers family

in Ireland spelled it Cryan. Someone in this branch of

my family has done alot of Family Tree ...

 

52. Cryan email list

Author: Leslie Poché   Date: 19 Nov 1999

Board: Boards > Surnames > Cryan

I need your email address to subscribe you. Or you can

check us out through www.rootsweb.com -- under the

mailing list subscription section for surnames. Hope

to see you on the list soon!

 

53. Cryan/Crine

Author: Dottie Cryan Chegwidden   Date: 27 Oct 2000

Board: Boards > Surnames > Cryan

Hello, My father was Richard G. Cryan, born in Lowell,

MA; however, his dad, John J. Cryan and wife Catherine

moved all of the family to Newark in about 1929...John

J. died in Irvington in 1964?. My ...

 

54. Michael Bridget (Foley) Cryan in Lowell, MA

Author: Karen Murphy   Date: 27 Oct 2000

Board: Boards > Surnames > Cryan

Dottie, The family of Michael and Bridget Cryan came

to Lowell about 1882 according to the naturalization

of son, Michael born in Ireland 1881. Around 1884

another son, James, was born in ...

 

55. Michael and Bridget Cryan in Lowell, MA

Author: Dottie Cryan Chegwidden   Date: 28 Oct 2000

Board: Boards > Surnames > Cryan

Thanks Karen! Dottie

 

56. Hello

Author: Eileen Cryan Birch   Date: 3 Nov 2000

Board: Boards > Surnames > Cryan

My father's name is John Cryan. He is from Castlrea,

Co. Roscommon, Ireland. His father was also Michael.

He marries Martha Satchwell though I'm not sure when.

Please let me know if you get any ...

 

57. Cryan ancestors

Author: Eileen Cryan Birch   Date: 3 Nov 2000

Board: Boards > Surnames > Cryan

My father came from Co. Roscommon, Ireland. He settled

in New Jersey in 1948. I am wondering about any

relatives we may not have met.

 

58. cryan

Author: Patricia   Date: 1 Mar 2000

Board: Boards > Surnames > Cryan

Please send me any information you have rerding Cryan.

I am doing a family tree for school. Thank you

 

59. Cryans

Author: Helen M. Cryan Anctil   Date: 21 Sep 2000

Board: Boards > Surnames > Cryan

Dear Pat, I looked at your message because my sister

is also Pat Cryan and I wondered if this message was

from her. If you're in school I guess not. My branch

of the Cryan family was from ...

 

60. Cryan surname in Michigan

Author: Mary Jo   Date: 6 Mar 2001

Board: Boards > Surnames > Cryan

Dear Helen, I am looking for a Cryan woman who would

have been approx. 40 yrs. old, and the Detroit area in

1945. She may have had a sister who was a Catholic

nun, and a brother who was a priest. ...

 

61. Cryan surname in Michigan

Author: Mary Jo   Date: 6 Mar 2001

Board: Boards > Surnames > Cryan

Dear Helen, I am looking for a Cryan woman who would

have been approx. 40 yrs. old, and the Detroit area in

1945. She may have had a sister who was a Catholic

nun, and a brother who was a priest. ...

 

62. fam. tree/Patricia

Author: Dottie Cryan Chegwidden   Date: 28 Oct 2000

Board: Boards > Surnames > Cryan

Patricia, Which Cryan family are you looking for?

Dottie

 

63. Re: Cryan mailing list

Author: Rosalie Anne Gertrude Cryan   Date: 24 Aug

2001

Board: Boards > Surnames > Cryan

Hi Pat, I posted this in reply to Joan Ogg as well but

you might be more likely to see it here. It was

written by my Uncle Arthur in 1982. He's now 90 and

attended the recent Cryan Cousins ...

 

64. Cryan

Author: Pamela Burleson   Date: 9 May 2000

Board: Boards > Surnames > Cryan

It's a great list, too. It's where I found my

ancestors, thanks to the very knowledgable

researchers! Pam

 

65. cryan mailing list

Author: edna fuller   Date: 25 Feb 2001

Board: Boards > Surnames > Cryan

Hi, I am also looking for cryan, This was my

grandmother's maiden name. Honoria (Nora) Cryan. Hope

you can help

 

66. Cryan Mailing List

Author: edna fuller   Date: 9 Mar 2001

Board: Boards > Surnames > Cryan

Hi Leslie, I had sent a message before, but did not

hear back. I would like to join the mailing Cryan

mailing list. Can you let me know what I need to do.

My paternal grandmother was a Cryan, and I ...

 

67. Austin Cryan

Author: Stephanie Stephens   Date: 3 Mar 2000

Board: Boards > Surnames > Cryan

This is my great-grandfather. He was born Dec. 28,

1851. I am looking for more info on him, such as his

parents names, siblings names,etc.

 

68. great-grandfather-Austin Cryan

Author: yolanda humphries   Date: 1 Apr 2000

Board: Boards > Surnames > Cryan

Stephanie, I'm also tring to find out information on

our great-grandfather.Please e-mail me if anyone finds

anything. I wish you all the luck sis.

 

69. Austin Cryan

Author: yolanda humphries   Date: 1 Apr 2000

Board: Boards > Surnames > Cryan

My e-mail address is humphrie@txucom.net Please e-mail

me of any information regarding Austin Cryan.

 

70. Austin Cryan

Author: yolanda humphries   Date: 2 Apr 2000

Board: Boards > Surnames > Cryan

Stehanie, Kindred Konnections global search found two

Austin Cryans in the ancestral archive index-betweent

the years 1851-1925. If you want a more detail search

you have to get a subscription- I ...

 

71. Danial Cryan

Author: Stephanie Stephens   Date: 3 Apr 2000

Board: Boards > Surnames > Cryan

Looking for siblings of Danial Cryan born in 1804 in

Ireland. Also looking for siblings of his second wife

Mary Moran born in 1825 and died in 1901 in Geneseo,

North Dakota. Any info would be ...

 

72. jermaine cryan

Author: julia cook   Date: 14 May 2000

Board: Boards > Surnames > Cryan

looking for info on a nun in ireland sister jermaine

cryan

 

73. germaine cryan

Author: marcia   Date: 4 Jun 2000

Board: Boards > Surnames > Cryan

i have a granddaughter with the name of jermaine.

could be related?????

 

74. Cryan's from New Jersey

Author: Kathleen Jordan   Date: 23 Jul 2000

Board: Boards > Surnames > Cryan

My name is Kathleen Jordan. My maiden name was Cryan.

I was born, raised and still live in Hunterdon County

New Jersey. I am looking for any information that

someone can give me about my ...

 

75. Cryan's in N.J.

Author: Dottie Cryan Chegwidden   Date: 27 Oct 2000

Board: Boards > Surnames > Cryan

Kathleen, I too am looking for Cryan's in N.J., but I

believe mine to be another family. My grandfather John

J. Cryan moved with wife, Catherine Dubey (wife 1) to

Newark, J. somewhere around 1929 ...

 

            76. Austin Cryan

Author: Stephanie Stephens   Date: 3 Mar 2000

Board: Boards > Surnames > Cryan

This is my great-grandfather. He was born Dec. 28,

1851. I am looking for more info on him, such as his

parents names, siblings names,etc.

 

77. great-grandfather-Austin Cryan

Author: yolanda humphries   Date: 1 Apr 2000

Board: Boards > Surnames > Cryan

Stephanie, I'm also tring to find out information on

our great-grandfather.Please e-mail me if anyone finds

anything. I wish you all the luck sis.

 

78. Austin Cryan

Author: yolanda humphries   Date: 1 Apr 2000

Board: Boards > Surnames > Cryan

My e-mail address is humphrie@txucom.net Please e-mail

me of any information regarding Austin Cryan.

 

79. Austin Cryan

Author: yolanda humphries   Date: 2 Apr 2000

Board: Boards > Surnames > Cryan

Stehanie, Kindred Konnections global search found two

Austin Cryans in the ancestral archive index-betweent

the years 1851-1925. If you want a more detail search

you have to get a subscription- I ...

 

80. Danial Cryan

Author: Stephanie Stephens   Date: 3 Apr 2000

Board: Boards > Surnames > Cryan

Looking for siblings of Danial Cryan born in 1804 in

Ireland. Also looking for siblings of his second wife

Mary Moran born in 1825 and died in 1901 in Geneseo,

North Dakota. Any info would be ...

 

81. jermaine cryan

Author: julia cook   Date: 14 May 2000

Board: Boards > Surnames > Cryan

looking for info on a nun in ireland sister jermaine

cryan

 

82. germaine cryan

Author: marcia   Date: 4 Jun 2000

Board: Boards > Surnames > Cryan

i have a granddaughter with the name of jermaine.

could be related?????

 

83. Cryan's from New Jersey

Author: Kathleen Jordan   Date: 23 Jul 2000

Board: Boards > Surnames > Cryan

My name is Kathleen Jordan. My maiden name was Cryan.

I was born, raised and still live in Hunterdon County

New Jersey. I am looking for any information that

someone can give me about my ...

 

84. Cryan's in N.J.

Author: Dottie Cryan Chegwidden   Date: 27 Oct 2000

Board: Boards > Surnames > Cryan

Kathleen, I too am looking for Cryan's in N.J., but I

believe mine to be another family. My grandfather John

J. Cryan moved with wife, Catherine Dubey (wife 1) to

Newark, J. somewhere around 1929 ...

 

85. Cryan's in NJ

Author: Kathleen Jordan   Date: 27 Oct 2000

Board: Boards > Surnames > Cryan

Dottie, I am so sorry, but none of the names listed

our my relavtives. My great-grandparents only had two

children; Bernard and Eleanor. I hope that you find

out more information. Kathleen

 

86. Catherine Cryan born in Ireland

Author: Chet   Date: 10 Aug 2000

Board: Boards > Surnames > Cryan

looking for any info on Catherine Cryan and her

husband James O'Callaghan they had 7 childern. Pasted

below is a descendants list of this couple. If any one

regonizes this line please email ...

 

87. Brigid Cryan, Boyle, Co. Roscommon

Author: Joan Ogg   Date: 11 Aug 2000

Board: Boards > Surnames > Cryan

My paternal great great grandmother was Brigid Cryan.

Brigid married Cormack Carroll on February 2, 1848 at

the Boyle Parish (RC) in Co. Roscommon. Witnesses to

their marriage were James Gallagher ...

 

88. Brigid Cryan's parents

Author: A. Riley   Date: 12 Sep 2000

Board: Boards > Surnames > Cryan

Joan, do you know who your Brigid's parents were? My

g-g-gmother Atty McDonough married John Cryan at Boyle

in 1825; their first daughter Brigid Cryan was

baptized at Taunaugh in 1826. I wonder if ...

 

89. Brigid Cryan

Author: Joan Ogg   Date: 12 Sep 2000

Board: Boards > Surnames > Cryan

It is my belief that my gr gr grandmother, Brigid

Cryan, was the daughter of Michael and Brigida (Fury)

Cryan christened on October 9, 1822 in Boyle (RC). I

also believe that my gr gr grandmother's ...

 

90. My Crine/Cryan Family Line

Author: Eileen   Date: 3 Nov 2000

Board: Boards > Surnames > Cryan

Patrick Crine married Mary Burke in Ireland and had 8

children: John (Cryan), Bridget (b@1833), Walter

(b@1840), Mark (Cryan) died in Ireland and his wife

came to the states with 8 children, Thomas, ...

 

91. Cryan

Author: edna fuller   Date: 25 Feb 2001

Board: Boards > Surnames > Cryan

I have been doing research on my family for about two

1/2 years now. My Grandmother's maiden name was Honora

(Nora) Cryan. She was born somewhere in Roscommon

County August 26, 1877. She married my ...

 

92. Cryan surname in Michigan in 1945

Author: Mary Jo   Date: 6 Mar 2001

Board: Boards > Surnames > Cryan

I am looking for information about a Cryan woman who

would have been approx. 40 yrs. old in 1945. She was

in Detroit MI in 1945, and had a sister who was a

Catholic nun, and a brother who was a ...

 

93. Cryan

Author: edna fuller   Date: 7 Mar 2001

Board: Boards > Surnames > Cryan

Hi Mary Jo, A Cryan woman that age does not sound

familar in the Detroit Area, but as i keep looking, if

I find a connection. I will let you know Edna Fuller

 

94. Cryan

Author: Mary Jo   Date: 7 Mar 2001

Board: Boards > Surnames > Cryan

Hi Edna, Thanks for the reply. I appreciate that you

will let me know if you come across anything. Mary Jo

 

95. Cryan

Author: edna fuller   Date: 8 Mar 2001

Board: Boards > Surnames > Cryan

Hi, Can you give me more information. I can trace

Cryan relatives to Lowell, Mass. and Cincinnati, Ohio,

but without a name, I do not know if I can help. The

person you are looking for has to be a ...

 

96. Cryan

Author: Mary Jo   Date: 21 Mar 2001

Board: Boards > Surnames > Cryan

Hi Sorry I don't have a name. She is supposed to have

had a sister who was a nun, and a brother who was a

priest. She was possibly a teacher or a school

principle. There may have been some ...

 

97. Cryan's of Lowell

Author: Joan Ogg   Date: 7 Jun 2001

Board: Boards > Surnames > Cryan

My grgrandmother, Jane Carroll Donovan, was the

daugter of Cormack and Brigid (Cryan) Carroll of

Garrow, Boyle, Co. Roscommon. It is my belief that

when my gr grandmother Jane immigrated to the ...

 

98. Re: Cryan's of Lowell

Author: Rosalie Cryan   Date: 24 Aug 2001

Board: Boards > Surnames > Cryan

FrFrom: Joan.ogg To: Rosalie A. Cryan Sent: Friday,

July 27, 2001 9:43 PM Subject: Cryan Connections Hi

Rosalie, Today I may have found another clue to the

connection of my great ...

 

99. Re: Cryan's of Lowell

Author: Rosalie Cryan   Date: 24 Aug 2001

Board: Boards > Surnames > Cryan

Hi Joan, My oldest cousin Artie told me that Aunt’s

Katy and Bridget owned a millinery shop in Lowell as

well as other property and summer house in Hampton ,NH

which they divested themselves of ...

 

100. Re: Cryan

Author: rebekah   Date: 5 Jan 2002

Board: Boards > Surnames > Cryan

i am do a report for one of my e.l.p. classes on my

irish imgrant. i am not sure if it is the same agnes,

but it was my dad's grandma or my great-grandma. from

what i know she was born in irland on ...

 

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Subject:          [Cryan et al.] ancestry.com cryan messages 101-149 of 201

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See ancestry.com url below for the following messages.

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101. Re: CRAIN/CRANE/CRYAN family, from Ireland, 1848

Author: A. Riley   Date: 29 Nov 2001

Board: Boards > Surnames > Crain

Merle, the Wisconsin Crains I've linked up with are

mostly from around Fond du Lac County, although many

have scattered -- Colorado, Florida, Arizona. None of

our Crain cousins we've found so far ...

 

102. Re: CRAIN/CRANE/CRYAN family, from Ireland, 1848

Author: merle crain   Date: 29 Nov 2001

Board: Boards > Surnames > Crain

Thank you for the post. Most appreciated. We are from

Green Lake county which is right next to Fond du Lac

County. Our ancestor was Wellington W. Crane (he later

changed the spelling to Crain ...

 

103. Re: CRAIN/CRANE/CRYAN family, from Ireland, 1848

Author: A. Riley   Date: 29 Nov 2001

Board: Boards > Surnames > Crain

Merle, our people did go through Oneida County on

their way west, but no one stayed there. Wasn't Oneida

County the west end of the Erie Canal, and where

people would get a steamship to go across the ...

 

104. Re: CRAIN/CRANE/CRYAN family, from Ireland, 1848

Author: merle crain   Date: 29 Nov 2001

Board: Boards > Surnames > Crain

A. Thanks for the quick response. I'll try the Cryan-L

list. Merle

 

105. Re: CRAIN/CRANE/CRYAN family, from Ireland, 1848

Author: Charles Crane   Date: 27 Nov 2001

Board: Boards > Surnames > Crain

I am desended from Dominic Crane b1832 Co Mayo.

Dominic had a number of brothers: Patrick Cryan,killed

in civil War in 1864, Larry Crean lived in Girardville

Pa.and was a well known Molly Maguire. ...

 

106. Re: CRAIN/CRANE/CRYAN family, from Ireland, 1848

Author: Charles Crane   Date: 28 Nov 2001

Board: Boards > Surnames > Crain

Hello again! Yesterday I recieved a very quick

responce re a message about the Cranes, Creans,

Cryans. I received two responces one from

Clive@plusnet.P and another from mwilcox@ ismi.ne,

however ...

 

107. Re: CRAIN/CRANE/CRYAN family, from Ireland, 1848

Author: Rich Lowe   Date: 29 Nov 2001

Board: Boards > Surnames > Crain

The reason your message to them bouced is that they

have the BadTrans birus and their original message to

you was no doubt modified and had an underscore "_"

ahead of their real email address. Any ...

 

108. feeney-cryan

Author: karen mcelrath   Date: 6 May 2000

Board: Boards > Surnames > Feeney

searching for information on Patrick Feeney who

married Bridget Cryan. they lived in wareham, MA in

1875, and perhaps earlier. bridget cryan feeney died

in somerset, MA in the early 1900s. thanks, ...

 

109. Michael & Bridget (Cryan) GALLAGHER;

Poughkeepsie, NY, c1870

Author: jim gallagher   Date: 14 Feb 2001

Board: Boards > Surnames > Gallagher

looking for decendents of micheal bridget they lived

in Poughkeepsie,NY circa 1870. Children-

Patrick,Felix,John,Katherine, and Mary Ann.

 

110. Re: Michael & Bridget (Cryan) GALLAGHER;

Poughkeepsie, NY, c1870

Author: Ann Gallagher   Date: 17 Oct 2001

Board: Boards > Surnames > Gallagher

Was he a police officer?

 

111. Re: Michael & Bridget (Cryan) GALLAGHER;

Poughkeepsie, NY, c1870

Author: jim gallagher   Date: 22 Oct 2001

Board: Boards > Surnames > Gallagher

Ann, according to the 1870 census he was listed as a

laborer . Jim

 

112. Re: Michael & Bridget (Cryan) GALLAGHER;

Poughkeepsie, NY, c1870

Author: Ann Gallagher   Date: 23 Oct 2001

Board: Boards > Surnames > Gallagher

Jim, I just re-read your reply. If Michael came to

this country in 1870 it could be the same Michael. The

policeman information is word of mouth past down

through generations. Do you know his ...

 

113. Re: Michael & Bridget (Cryan) GALLAGHER;

Poughkeepsie, NY, c1870

Author: Ann Gallagher   Date: 23 Oct 2001

Board: Boards > Surnames > Gallagher

Jim, If he went to Poughkeepsie around 1870 he could

have been a laborer before he got onto the police

department. Ann

 

114. Re: Michael & Bridget (Cryan) GALLAGHER;

Poughkeepsie, NY, c1870

Author: jim gallagher   Date: 23 Oct 2001

Board: Boards > Surnames > Gallagher

Ann, Michael came to Poughkeepsie around 1861. He had

one child born in Ireland 1860 & the next one was born

1862 in Poughkeepsie . Jim

 

115. Re: Michael & Bridget (Cryan) GALLAGHER;

Poughkeepsie, NY, c1870

Author: Ann Gallagher   Date: 24 Oct 2001

Board: Boards > Surnames > Gallagher

Jim, I am not sure of my Michael's birth date, so I

don't know if this is him. The only way to know for

sure is if you know his parents name and where in

Ireland he was born. My Mike's parents ...

 

116. Re: Michael & Bridget (Cryan) GALLAGHER;

Poughkeepsie, NY, c1870

Author: jim gallagher   Date: 24 Oct 2001

Board: Boards > Surnames > Gallagher

Ann, Michael was my gr gr grandfather. I do not know

anything about his brothers or sisters. I do know he

had 5 children named ,Felix,John,Katherine,MaryAnn, &

Patrick my gr grandfather. Jim

 

117. Re: Michael & Bridget (Cryan) GALLAGHER;

Poughkeepsie, NY, c1870

Author: Ann Gallagher   Date: 24 Oct 2001

Board: Boards > Surnames > Gallagher

JIm, That's all I know about my Michael and all you

know. It could be the same person but how will we

know? Ann

 

118. Igo family

Author: Dottie Cryan Chegwidden   Date: 27 Oct 2000

Board: Boards > Surnames > Mahon

Hi Kate, I just found out that my g-g-grandfather was

Patrick Igo, who married Mary Burns. They were married

in Lawrence, MA in 1870, but they were both listed as

born in Ireland. My g-grandmother, ...

 

119. Rowell Family Line

Author: Robin "Rowell" Cryan Norton   Date: 16 Sep

2000

Board: Boards > Surnames > Rowell

I want to search my family roots and find out where we

were in history. I was born Robin Lee Rowell in

jacksonville fla. only child of Gary Emerson Rowell

and Frances Jean "Shealy" Rowell.My dob is ...

 

120. Margaret Tatu Howard Tatu

Author: Daniel Cryan   Date: 4 May 2001

Board: Boards > Surnames > Tronolone

I saw you entry about Margaret Tatu. My Grandmother is

Margaret Tatu. She and her late husband Howard grew up

on Arend Ave. in Williamsville, NY. I'm not sure if he

had any relatives, I'm trying to ...

 

121. TATU

Author: Dan Cryan   Date: 23 May 2001

Board: Boards > Surnames > Tronolone

Deborah, I would like to share more info. My system at

home failed this week and I have to replace the hard

drive. I'll gather some info and get back to you

soonest. Dan

 

122. Howard Margaret Tatu

Author: Daniel M. Cryan   Date: 12 Jun 2001

Board: Boards > Surnames > Tronolone

I am going to NY in July. What information would you

like about the TATU family? Margaret Tatu, husband of

Howard Tatu, and her sister Anna are both alive in NY.

 

123. Howard Tatu

Author: Dan Cryan   Date: 15 Dec 2001

Board: Boards > Surnames > Tronolone

Howard Tatu (of Williamsville NY) was the son of Frank

and Mary Tatu. Looking for information on them. Any

help would be appreciated.

 

124. CRYAN

Author: Anthony Cryan   Date: 10 Jul 1998

Board: Boards > Topics > Military > United

States > Civil War > Georgia > General

I've just found that a Cryan served the Confederacy.

He is listed as on an online ACW Dbase as Donnick -

though this may be Dominick or Domnick originally. His

residence was Muscogee County GA and ...

 

125.

DOUGHERTY/BRADLEY/GALLAGHER/MCCAFFERTY/RUSH/MANLEY/SWEENEY/FITZGERALD/

MCQUILLEN/MCCAFFERTY/MCGRATH/BYRNE/DOWNEY/HILLEN/BRENNAN/BENNETT/CRYAN/MANNION/RYAN/MCCABE/DELANEY/

O'RIELLY/ O

Author: Joyce Gill   Date: 9 Jan 2001

Board: Boards > Localities > United Kingdom and

Ireland > Ireland > General

THESE ARE THE NAMES OF MY ANCESTERS,FROM MY GR.GR.

GRANDFATHER MICHAEL DOUGHERTY 1798 LETTERKENNY

CTY,DONEGAL,IRELAND TO NEW CASTLE,NEBRASKA.HE MARRIED

MARY BRADLEY IN IRELAND.THEY HAD 6 ...

 

126. Re:

DOUGHERTY/BRADLEY/GALLAGHER/MCCAFFERTY/RUSH/MANLEY/SWEENEY/FITZGERALD/

MCQUILLEN/MCCAFFERTY/MCGRATH/BYRNE/DOWNEY/HILLEN/BRENNAN/BENNETT/CRYAN/MANNION/RYAN/MCCABE/DELANEY/

O'RIELLY/ O

Author: Patty   Date: 13 Jul 2001

Board: Boards > Localities > United Kingdom and

Ireland > Ireland > General

Dear Joyce, Please contact me at silklang@aol.com. I

think we may somehow be related. I do not have your

screen name so please contact me as soon as you can.

 

127. Re:

DOUGHERTY/BRADLEY/GALLAGHER/MCCAFFERTY/RUSH/MANLEY/SWEENEY/FITZGERALD/

MCQUILLEN/MCCAFFERTY/MCGRATH/BYRNE/DOWNEY/HILLEN/BRENNAN/BENNETT/CRYAN/MANNION/RYAN/MCCABE/DELANEY/

O'RIELLY/ O

Author: Joyce Gill   Date: 23 Jul 2001

Board: Boards > Localities > United Kingdom and

Ireland > Ireland > General

HI, JUST SAW YOUR NOTE. PLEASE E-MAIL

ME.JGILL56385@aol.com THANKS, JOYCE

 

128. well, you already know I'm a Cryan from Argentina

Author: Silvia   Date: 8 May 2001

Board: Boards > Localities > United Kingdom and

Ireland > Ireland > Leitrim > General

My family is originally from Co. Sligo, Inn (which is

a little village) and that is as far as I know. My

great great grandfather had three kids, one of whom's

name is Patrick and which was my great ...

 

129. Family Search

Author: Peggy Mahon   Date: 20 Nov 2000

Board: Boards > Localities > United Kingdom and

Ireland > Ireland > Galway > General

On 1/22/1886 my grandmother, Sara Tobin, was baptized

in St. Croans Church in Ballmoe, with godparents James

& Margaret Cryan. We are trying to find out if there

are any family members still living ...

 

130. MURRAY of Longford>Wisconsin, USA

Author: A. Riley   Date: 31 Jan 2000

Board: Boards > Localities > United Kingdom and

Ireland > Ireland > Longford > General

My G-G-grandmother, Bridget Murray, married Patrick

Cryan (Crane, Crain) in Eldorado, Wisconsin, about

1858. I have an old photo of Bridget. On the back it

says that Bridget's parents were from ...

 

131. rootsweb mailing list

Author: Michael Tobin   Date: 10 Mar 1999

Board: Boards > Localities > United Kingdom and

Ireland > Ireland > Sligo > General

Rich You should consider joining the following mailing

list :- CRYAN-L -- A mailing list for the discussion

and sharing of information regarding the CRYAN surname

and variations (e.g., O'cryan, ...

 

132. Ireland relatives

Author: Connie McDonald   Date: 11 Aug 1999

Board: Boards > Localities > United Kingdom and

Ireland > Ireland > Sligo > General

My husband's great grandmother Sarah Cryan came to USA

about 1970. She may have had a brother John. Her roots

were County Sligo. We have no other information about

her background.

 

133. Update on Crain

Author: A. Riley   Date: 18 Feb 2000

Board: Boards > Localities > United Kingdom and

Ireland > Ireland > Sligo > General

Update -- here's what I've found, most of it thanks to

the CRYAN-L list! Very knowledgeable and helpful

people -- it's good to be related to them! And now

we've got a dozen cousins all in ...

 

134. Are there death records for 1848?

Author: A. Riley   Date: 28 Mar 2000

Board: Boards > Localities > United Kingdom and

Ireland > Ireland > Sligo > General

According to family lore, our ancestor, John Cryan,

died of heatstroke (!) in 1848. Are there records of

deaths available online anywhere? Here's what we know

for sure: His widow, Atty McDonough ...

 

135. Crien brothers, Aghanagh RC, 1804-5

Author: A. Riley   Date: 4 Oct 2000

Board: Boards > Localities > United Kingdom and

Ireland > Ireland > Sligo > General

Two brothers, John and Mark Crien/Cryan/Crane/Crain,

were born in the Aghanagh area in 1804 and 1805.

John's baptismal record (1804, Aghanagh RC) says Lucas

Crien and Winifred Brennan were their ...

 

136. Crain - Ireland to Worcester Co., 1850

Author: A. Riley   Date: 21 Sep 2000

Board: Boards > Localities > North America > United

States > States > Massachusetts > Counties > Worcester

In 1848, Atty Cryan, a recent widow, left County

Sligo, IRL, with her children, bound for America. They

sailed from Liverpool on the Epaminondas and landed in

Boston in June 1848. They went to ...

 

137. Catherine Manning

Author: Stephanie Stephens   Date: 18 Apr 2000

Board: Boards > Localities > North America > United

States > States > North Dakota > Counties > Grand

Forks

I am looking for any information on Catherine Manning

who died in 1946 in Grand Forks, ND. I believe she is

related to the Cryan family who lived in the town of

Geneseo/Cayuga, ND. My great-aunt ...

 

138. Crains in Eldorado Twp., 1855 & onward

Author: A. Riley   Date: 19 Sep 2000

Board: Boards > Localities > North America > United

States > States > Wisconsin > Counties > Fond du Lac

In about 1855, my g-g-g-mom, Atty Crain (sometimes

spelled Crane, was Cryan in Ireland), settled in

Eldorado Twp. in Fond du Lac County, along with her

brother-in-law Mark Crain and seven of her nine ...

 

139. newark.new jersey cooney

Author: mary jane cooney   Date: 27 May 2000

Board: Boards > Surnames > Cooney

grandparents: john Cooney and Mary crean (cryan)

Children: Edward ,John,Ann,Catherine, rose, Matthew,

James, Mary, Edward was born in Newark, New Jersey in

1896.

 

140. Cooney's of Newark, NJ

Author: John Cooney   Date: 28 May 2000

Board: Boards > Surnames > Cooney

Hi Mary Jane: I looked through my records and yes I

have a John S. Cooney, but he married Mary Smith, not

Mary Cryan. I have no records that indicate our

Cooney's lived in Newark. They settled in ...

 

141. Crean mailing list

Author: Leslie Poche'   Date: 27 Sep 1999

Board: Boards > Surnames > Crean

I am the administrator for a free email list for

research on the Crean and related (or overlapping)

surnames, such as Cryan, Crynes, Creaghan, etc. Email

me directly for info on how to subscribe. ...

 

142. Email list

Author: Leslie Poché   Date: 4 Mar 2000

Board: Boards > Surnames > Crean

Email me directly at fatarm@aol.com or sign yourself

up through www.rootsweb.com (look under the surname

mailing lists section, under Cryan -- don't be fooled,

though, because the list is less than ...

 

143. Cregan mailing list

Author: Leslie Poche'   Date: 27 Sep 1999

Board: Boards > Surnames > Cregan

I am the list administrator for a free email list on

Cregan and the related (or often overlapping) surnames

of Crean, Crehan, Creaghan, Cryan, MacCroghan, etc.

Email me for info on how to subscribe. ...

 

144. How to subscribe

Author: Leslie Poché   Date: 31 Jul 2000

Board: Boards > Surnames > Cregan

Just email Cryan-L-request@rootsweb.com with only the

word "subscribe" in the message body -- that'll do it.

Best of luck in your searches!

 

145. Croghan mailing list

Author: Leslie Poche'   Date: 27 Sep 1999

Board: Boards > Surnames > Croghan

I am the administrator for a free email list for

research on the Croghan and related (or overlapping)

surnames, such as MacCroghan, Cryan, Crynes, Creaghan,

etc. Email me directly for info on how to ...

 

146. Croghan mailing list

Author: Leslie Poché   Date: 31 Jan 2000

Board: Boards > Surnames > Croghan

It's through rootsweb: www.rootsweb.com.

http://www.rootsweb.com/~maillist/surnames/index.html

-- And look under the surname "Cryan". We've found

several overlaps between spellings of these Irish ...

 

147. How to subscribe to Croghan, Crean, Cryan,

Creaghan mailing list

Author: Leslie Poché   Date: 13 Oct 2000

Board: Boards > Surnames > Croghan

I'll need your email address to place you on the

Crean, Croghan, Creaghan, Cryan et al. mailing list.

Please email me directly at fatarm@aol.com so that I

can add your email address to the list. ...

 

148. Re: How to subscribe to Croghan, Crean, Cryan,

Creaghan mailing list

Author: Michael W. Ammann   Date: 4 Dec 2001

Board: Boards > Surnames > Croghan

Re: Croghan mailing list, my e-mail address is

mammann104@aol.com. Thank you.

 

149. CRYANs in Lowell, MA

Author: Karen Murphy   Date: 1 Mar 2000

Board: Boards > Surnames > Cryan

Patricia, please contact me in regards to Walter

Francis Cryan. I may have information for you

 

Date:   Fri, 25 Jan 2002 13:24:06 +0000 (GMT)

From:  "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> | Block Address  | Add to Address Book

Subject:          [Cryan et al.] ancestry.com cryan messages 150-200 of 201

To:       CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

 

 

See ancestry.com url below for the following messages.

caoimhghin

 

 

http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?f=search&r=an&p=surnames.cryan&application=public&query=cryan&filter=

 

 

 

150. I'm another patricia

Author: Patricia   Date: 1 Mar 2000

Board: Boards > Surnames > Cryan

Looking for any information on walter Francis Cryan,

originally from Lowell, Mass

 

            151. cran mailing list

Author: Pat   Date: 2 Mar 2000

Board: Boards > Surnames > Cryan

Hi Now that I think of it, I can remeber hearing that

my father, walter Francis Cryan, changed his name,

from Creon or somthing like that. i know the family

settled in Lowell, from where I don't ...

 

152. EDWARD CULLEN

Author: ROGER CULLEN   Date: 26 Feb 2000

Board: Boards > Surnames > Cullen

LOOKING FOR INFO ON EDWARD CULLEN IN BALTIMORE AREA

ABOUT 1860-1866. MARRIED CATHERINE CRYAN. HAD SON BORN

IN BALTIMORE 1866.

 

153. feeney - MA

Author: karen mcelrath   Date: 8 May 2000

Board: Boards > Surnames > Feeney

i've got patrick feeney, born circa 17 march 1836,

county roscommon, ireland. arrived NY march 1865.

married bridget cryan feeney and in 1880 the couple

lived in warehamn, MA. during 1880, children ...

 

154. bridget feeney

Author: karen mcelrath   Date: 6 May 2000

Board: Boards > Surnames > Feeney

peggy: do you know whom bridget married in the US?

also - one of my Cryan ancestors from county sligo,

ireland, married a Patrick Feeney and lived in

wareham, MA. karen

 

155. bridget feeney

Author: karen mcelrath   Date: 8 May 2000

Board: Boards > Surnames > Feeney

peggy: have not heard of those names but i've made a

note of them. i have just learned that patrick feeney,

husband of my bridget cryan feeney, was born in county

roscommon, ireland on 17 march 1836. ...

 

156. Thomas E.

Author: C Ryan   Date: 19 Oct 2000

Board: Boards > Surnames > Heskett

I am looking for information on Thomas E. Heskett,

probably son of Levi Heskett, older brother of

Ambrose. Maybe we can compare notes -

cryan@bigfoot.com

 

157. lydon

Author: edna fuller   Date: 16 Feb 2001

Board: Boards > Surnames > Lydon

I do not know if there is a connection here or not, my

great grandmother was Honoria (nora) Lavin, married to

John Cryan. I do not have dates of birh, death on

either one, my grandmother Nora Cryan ...

 

158. Lydon Family

Author: edna fuller   Date: 25 Jan 2001

Board: Boards > Surnames > Lydon

Hi Robin, My Grandfather, Lawrence Lydon and my

Grandmother, Nora Cryan immagrated to the US and

settled in San Francisco, Ca. they were both around

Galway. Actually somewhere between Galway Sligo. ...

 

159. Isaiah Riddle

Author: Bonnie Ryan   Date: 22 Jul 2000

Board: Boards > Surnames > Riddle

Anyone with any information on the Isaiah Riddle

family may contact me by e-mail at cryan@weir.net

Thanks

 

160. Aracte Walsh

Author: Pamela Burleson   Date: 6 Jan 2000

Board: Boards > Surnames > Walsh

Hi, I've just recieved information that I am trying to

follow through on. According to lds parish records, My

ggg Grandmother, Atty Crain (aka Aracte Cryan in

Ireland) m. John Cryan 14 March 1825 in ...

 

161. Irish Crains

Author: Audrey Riley   Date: 20 Nov 2000

Board: Boards > Topics > Immigration and

Emigration > United States > Irish immigrants

The Irish name Crain was often spelled Cryan in the

old country, and there's a very active Cryan

researchers' community on rootsweb. Check it out!

 

162. Names/counties list continued

Author: Jean Rice   Date: 17 Jan 1999

Board: Boards > Localities > United Kingdom and

Ireland > Ireland > Leitrim > General

More Irish surnames and the counties or baronies in

which they are the most prevalent. Many of these names

once had the prefixes "O" and "Mac" but were dropped.

1. MacCrossan: North Tyrone. 2. ...

 

163. Memories of Ballinamore - Fifty years ago

Author: Jean Rice   Date: 9 Jan 2000

Board: Boards > Localities > United Kingdom and

Ireland > Ireland > Leitrim > General

Today Ballinamore and Leitrim and Ireland are all

awash with restaurants, even Chinese take-aways, but

when Tommy Moran speaks of the 1950's he said that the

nearest thing his family ever came to ...

 

164. Re: More Circa 1987 Co. Leitrim Area (& Vicinity)

Businesses, Etc.

Author: Jean Rice   Date: 10 Dec 2001

Board: Boards > Localities > United Kingdom and

Ireland > Ireland > Leitrim > General

More circa 1987 Co. Leitrim (Vicinity) Businesses - 1.

Damien & Ann Coffey, Pastry Case & Coffee Shop, Bridge

St., Carrick-on-Shannon. 2. Doherty's Bakery,

Carrick-on-Shannon. 3. Margaret & Tom ...

 

165. BURKE Family of Birr

Author: Matt Weismantel   Date: 7 Oct 1999

Board: Boards > Localities > United Kingdom and

Ireland > Ireland > Offaly (Kings) > General

I am looking for information on the BURKE family

living in Birr. My g grandfather was Patrick BURKE

born on 2 Mar 1872 in Birr, County Offaly, Diocese

Kellaloe. His godparents were Michael Egan, Mary ...

 

166. Burke Family of Birr - Update

Author: Matt Weismantel   Date: 7 Oct 1999

Board: Boards > Localities > United Kingdom and

Ireland > Ireland > Offaly (Kings) > General

I am looking for information on the BURKE family

living in Birr. My g grandfather was Patrick BURKE

born on 2 Mar 1872 in Birr, County Offaly, Diocese

Kellaloe. His parents were John BURKE and Esther ...

 

167. McDonoughs in Taunagh

Author: A. Riley   Date: 1 Dec 2000

Board: Boards > Localities > United Kingdom and

Ireland > Ireland > Sligo > General

Hello, Marie -- I don't know very much about my

McDonough's (McDonogh, McDonagh), except that my

g-g-grandmother's maiden name was McDonough. She was

baptized Aracte (Attracta, Atty for short) ...

 

168. find music sheet

Author: Marc Joutet   Date: 12 Mar 2001

Board:

Boards > Localities > Caribbean > Barbados > General

Hi! I'm french. Just started a gospel group for

evangelism outreach in Normnady. I'm looking for music

sheet (piano, guitar, bass etc...) Title: Give up the

ghost (Morgan Cryan)- I ain't got ...

 

169. CRAIN in Waseca Co.

Author: A. Riley   Date: 1 Sep 2000

Board: Boards > Localities > North America > United

States > States > Minnesota > Counties > Waseca

Timothy Crain (or Crane) & his brother John Crain (or

Crane), both born in County Sligo, Ireland, about

1839-1842, moved to Waseca in 1865 or thereabouts.

Timothy married Atty Dunnigan (don't know ...

 

170. Smiths123Usa and others including Eckert, and

Carlins And Attwood

Author: Patricia M Attwood-Smith   Date: 23 Mar 1999

Board: Boards > Localities > United Kingdom and

Ireland > England > General

Leslie, Bruce, and Tom.. Sorry for the delay in my

reply...Took a week off... Leslie, As to the Attwood

connections, I believe that you have recieved the

answers you sought above ... I dont know when ...

 

171. Re: Looking for information about Thomas S. Lydon

Author: edna fuller   Date: 30 Dec 2001

Board: Boards > Localities > United Kingdom and

Ireland > Ireland > General

Hi, I saw your message, My Grandfather Lawrence Lydon

came from Fauleens, Co. Sligo, Ireland, to San

Francisco in about 1892, went back, married my

Grandmother, Nora Cryan, from Shroove, Co. ...

 

172. looking for Cryans who lived in Michigan near

Detroit in and around 1945

Author: Mary Jo   Date: 4 Mar 2001

Board: Boards > Localities > United Kingdom and

Ireland > Ireland > Cork > General

I am looking for Cryans who lived in Michigan around

1945. There was at least one who was a Catholic nun,

and another who was a priest. Another would have been

a woman in her forties or so who was a ...

 

173. Crouder/Crower/Crozier/Culbert -

Jameson/McGreal/Blair/Fitzpatrick/Stewart

Author: Jean Rice   Date: 23 Dec 1998

Board: Boards > Localities > United Kingdom and

Ireland > Ireland > Leitrim > General

Please click on Surname List at top of this Co.

Leitrim Queries website, and please leave your query

for other researchers. Similar-sounding Co. Letirim

surnames include Crosbie, McCrothers, ...

 

174. Cullen - Donoghue/McManus/Atterton

Author: Jean Rice   Date: 20 Feb 1999

Board: Boards > Localities > United Kingdom and

Ireland > Ireland > Leitrim > General

Please click on Surname List at the Co. Leitrim IR

Genconnect Queries website for additional information

and queries, and please leave your own information for

other researchers, thank you! More ...

 

175. Cresswell/Crosswell/Croswell -

Flynn/Caldwell/McAllister/Denison/Boles/Dennison

Author: Jean Rice   Date: 23 May 1999

Board: Boards > Localities > United Kingdom and

Ireland > Ireland > Leitrim > General

Please click on Surname List at the top of the Co.

Leitrim IR Queries (Genconnect-Rootsweb) website for

more information and queries regarding these surnames,

and please leave your own query there ...

 

176. Re: Ca 1987 Co. Leitrim (& Vicinity) Businesses,

Etc.

Author: Jean Rice   Date: 12 Dec 2001

Board: Boards > Localities > United Kingdom and

Ireland > Ireland > Leitrim > General

Some circa 1987 Co. Leitrim & vicinity businesses,

etc., include: 1. Cuniffe Truck & Plant Services,

Ballast Quay, Sligo. 2. Keaney Plant (Plant Hire,

Services, Trucks), Ballinacarrow, Ballymote, ...

 

177. Taunagh RC clergy, 1840s?

Author: A. Riley   Date: 15 Nov 2000

Board: Boards > Localities > United Kingdom and

Ireland > Ireland > Sligo > General

All right, all you historians out there. The wonderful

book _In Their Own Words: The Famine in North

Connacht, 1845-1849_ by Liam Swords has many

transcribed lists of petitioners, etc., in the ...

 

178. RC Clergy 1840s

Author: A. Riley   Date: 16 Nov 2000

Board: Boards > Localities > United Kingdom and

Ireland > Ireland > Sligo > General

Yes, those are exactly the parishes I was looking for.

Rev. Edward Feeny, P.P., Tavnaugh, and Dominick Noon,

C.C., Aughana. (Those shifting spellings are a

constant battle!) Paul, is _The Destitution ...

 

179. Perth County Ancestors

Author: Kathleen McGuigan Giusti   Date: 18 Dec 1999

Board: Boards > Localities > North

America > Canada > Ontario > Perth

I am researching the following names in Perth County:

McGuigan, Gormley, Quinlan/Quinlivan, O'Brien,

Gallagher. Allied names include: SCHAFFER, BRYNE,

DONNELLY, STRAUBE, WOODS, PARRY, McMILLAN, ...

 

180. James Biscoe Adams

Author: Jim Adams   Date: 24 Dec 1999

Board: Boards > Localities > North America > United

States > States > Maryland > Counties > St. Mary's

Baltimore Sun James Biscoe Adams, aged 53 years old,

died Tuesday at his home, 607 Columbia Avenue,

Baltimore, after an illness of seven weeks. He had

been employed with the The Old Bay Line ...

 

181. James Biscoe Adams

Author: Jim Adams   Date: 6 Jun 2001

Board: Boards > Localities > North America > United

States > States > Maryland > Counties > St. Mary's

Baltimore Sun James Biscoe Adams, aged 53 years old,

died Tuesday at his home, 607 Columbia Avenue,

Baltimore, after an illness of seven weeks. He had

been employed with the The Old Bay Line ...

 

182. Carrie Rozelle Britton

Author: patricia britton   Date: 25 Sep 2000

Board: Boards > Localities > North America > United

States > States > Pennsylvania > Counties > Lackawanna

I am trying to find my GGrandmother Carrie Esther

Rozelle Britton's Obituary, hoping to find her burial

place. She was born 21 Jun 1873, Abington, PA, she

died Mar 1968, Dalton, Lackawanna Co, PA. ...

 

183. Crains in Fond du Lac County

Author: A. Riley   Date: 18 Jan 2000

Board: Boards > Localities > North America > United

States > States > Wisconsin > Counties > Fond du Lac

Thanks for your reply. I don't know if your Mattie and

Mary are among our Crains. Could be. My ggrandfather

Patrick, Bridget's husband, didn't settle in Eldorado

alone -- at least two of his ...

 

184. Margaret Barrie of Ontario

Author: Stephanie Stephens   Date: 11 Apr 2000

Board: Boards > Surnames > Barrie

Looking for any info on g-grandmother Margaret Barrie.

She was born around 1858 in Chesterville, Ontario.

According to 1871 Ontario census she has 6 siblings.

Also she married Austin Cryan and moved ...

 

185. Condons of N.J.-Oxford and/or Sparta (Sussex)

Author: Leah Boyd   Date: 23 Apr 2000

Board: Boards > Surnames > Condon

Oldest name=Thomas Condon. m.Mary Flynn, Cork,

Ireland.They had 2 children,Thomas E. William.I don't

know when they emigrated but Thomas E.was Born

july,1859 Oxford, NJ, m.Margaret Walsh in 1880,(MW ...

 

186. CRANE in Leominster, Mass., 1850

Author: A. Riley   Date: 22 Mar 2001

Board: Boards > Surnames > Crane

Brothers Michael and James Crane were listed in the

1850 census in Leominster, Mass., along with their

mother Atty and siblings Winifred, Sarah, Mary, Anne,

Patrick, John, Mark. They had emigrated ...

 

187. Cregan family research

Author: Leslie Poché   Date: 19 Nov 1999

Board: Boards > Surnames > Cregan

If you'd like to join in on our email list, you can

email me directly (fatarm@aol.com) or subscribe

through www.rootsweb.com -- look under mailing lists

for surnames. We'd love to have you join in on ...

 

188. DOUGHERTY'S

Author: Joyce Gill   Date: 30 Nov 2000

Board: Boards > Surnames > Dougherty

MY GR.GR. GRANDFATHER MICHAEL DOUGHERTY WAS BORN IN

LETTERKENNY,CTY DONEGAL,IRELAND AROUND 1798?DIED 1873

IN NEWCASTLE,NE. MICHAEL DOUGHERTY MARRIED MARY

BRADLEY,SHE WAS BORN 1796 IN LETTERKENNY ...

 

189. Re: doughertys

Author: JOYCE GILL   Date: 10 Nov 2001

Board: Boards > Surnames > Dougherty

hi,teresa my doughertys were around gelena,ill.from

there they came to nebraska.there are names

like,peter,michael,charlie,anne,mary,dominic.there are

names like ...

 

190. patrick's birthplace

Author: karen mcelrath   Date: 9 May 2000

Board: Boards > Surnames > Feeney

it was a fluke really. yesterday i phoned the national

archives in waltham, MA and spoke to staff in the

research office. i asked them to look up patrick and

bridget cryan feeney in the 1880 wareham ...

 

191. GrandFather Thomas Gilligan (Co. Cork)

Author: Maureen Finnegan Gilligan   Date: 30 Jan 2001

Board: Boards > Surnames > Gilligan

My GrandFather was Thomas Gilligan came 2 the states

from co.CORK, His Sons Were Michael Joseph,Thomas

John, daughter Mary Catherine,wife name was Myra

Gilligan Cryan, Also Later Learned Orginally ...

 

192. Cade Harkins

Author: C Ryan   Date: 9 Apr 2001

Board: Boards > Surnames > Harkins

I have the following info on a Cade: Cade Jefferson

Harkins b: 20 June 1898 d: 01 March 1969 Miami, OK

+Nancy 2 Jack Harkins +Patty 2 Floy Harkins 2 Cade

Harkins, Jr b: 29 November ...

 

193. Kenneth's 1st child

Author: Carolyn Ryan   Date: 6 Jul 2001

Board: Boards > Surnames > Hebrock

I just wanted to let you know that Kenneth was married

before Tanya and had a daughter, Carolyn Marie. I

would like any info. you have on my grandparents and

so on. I have ask for medical history ...

 

194. Looking for Alex Kaminski family

Author: Janet{Kaminski}Faulkner   Date: 16 Feb 2001

Board: Boards > Surnames > Kaminski

Alex Kaminski {he may be an Alexander} was born on

October 18,1891 in Poland (Warsaw I beleive). He came

to Ellis Island but I don't know when. He lived in

Florida for a little while and then moved ...

 

195. Missing Link-James Richard King II

Author: Carolyn Ryan   Date: 6 Jul 2001

Board: Boards > Surnames > King

I am looking for my cousin, James Richard King II. He

was born on January 22, 1972; in West Plains, MO. His

mother's name was Karen. Her madden name was Miller.

We heard he was in AZ. If anyone has ...

 

196. Thomas A. Larkin Sr.

Author: Chet   Date: 10 Aug 2000

Board: Boards > Surnames > Larkin

I'm looking for in info on Thomas A. Larkin Sr. He had

3 kids Anne Alogue Larkin b May 1876 in Manhattan, New

York City, New York Married John Joseph Callahan b

July 14, 1869. Mae Larkin and Thomas ...

 

197. Patrick or John

Author: edna fuller   Date: 30 Jan 2001

Board: Boards > Surnames > Lydon

Hi Robyn: Tell me where you are: Here is what I have

about my grandfather's family: (1) Thomas Lydon

married: Rachel (Bridget) Downes, Children - John

Lydon (nickname - "Hobo" born: Ireland - ...

 

198. Re: The Niland's

Author: Peter Farrell   Date: 7 Aug 2001

Board: Boards > Surnames > Niland

Hi Gene, I'd be interested in seeing what you have.

Basically my GG-GF was Peter Niland ( also "Nyland" in

some documents) he was married to Bridget Cryan ( aka

Crian). They inherited a farm ...

 

199. Rabbitt Family

Author: Siobhan Rabbitt   Date: 8 Jan 2001

Board: Boards > Surnames > Rabbitt

Can anyone help me? i'm looking for more information

on my family, i'm a Rabbitt from the North West of

England. All i really know is that my grandad was

called Owen Rabbitt born 1900 in Castlerea, ...

 

200. Isaac Newton Ryan

Author: Christine Ryan   Date: 31 Aug 2000

Board: Boards > Surnames > Ryan

I have the above name in my family tree, dob.is

January 12.1883 dod. is Febuary 10,1947 please let me

know is this is the same person. C

 

Date:   Fri, 25 Jan 2002 13:13:35 +0000 (GMT)

From:  "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> Subject:     [Cryan et al.] ancestry.com Cryan messages 201-201 of 201

To:       CRYAN-L@rootsweb.comSee ancestry.com url below for the following messages.

caoimhghin

http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?f=search&r=an&p=surnames.cryan&application=public&query=cryan&filter=

            201. Margaret Tatu

Author: Deborah L. Morris   Date: 19 May 2001

Board: Boards > Surnames > Tronolone

Howard is definitely related to my family. Howard is

my grandmother's brother - Francis/Frank Tatu's son.

The Margaret Tatu you are talking about maiden name

was Berger. I have Elizabeth Cryan as ...

 

 

Date:   Fri, 25 Jan 2002 11:57:19 -0500

From:  "Joe" <jpatter@epix.net> | Block Address  | Add to Address Book

Reply-to:        jpatter@epix.net

To:       "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>

Subject:          Re: PML Search Result matching Patterson AND ('NJ' or 'New Jersey') ANDNOT KATNKEV5458@aol.com

Caoimhghin O Croidheain wrote:

> A result of your requested PML search.  To

refine or cancel this

> search, please visit http://pml.rootsweb.com/

> Source:   CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

> Subject:  [Cryan et al.] Primary Records at

RootsWeb [Creans]

> > Primary Records at RootsWeb containing Creans

> Those are OK while you are searching but not sure

that others can use those URLS....

as they are created with "html on the fly".... 

ie, they go away in a few minutes.

 

Another place to start is the usgw PA archives

home page and then go to the counties...

or use the search engine on the state page...

http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/pa/pafiles.htm

joe

 

Date:   Fri, 25 Jan 2002 17:00:32 +0000 (GMT)

From:  "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> Subject:     [Cryan et al.] Cryan-L tops 1000 pages!To:            CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Hi all

I have sent a lot of material which I researched

onthe rootsweb site. This will help people narrow

downtheir searches by looking for key words in the

searchresults, especially in the archive file versions

on mysite which contain larger amounts of information

inone file. Other variations of the name can be

researched by using the urls contained in the

emails.This material brought the number pages of the

archivefiles since the beginning of the list to 1024

pages!caoimhghin

 

From:  "Pat Cryans" <pat@pcryans.fsnet.co.uk> | Block Address  | Add to Address Book

To:       "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>

Subject:          Re: [Cryan et al.] Sean Cryan and Eamon de Valera

Date:   Thu, 17 Jan 2002 18:54:36 -0000

KEVIN,

UPDATE TO MY PREVIOUS NOTE ABOUT THE ABOVE IT WAS 

SEAN CRYAN WHO I HAD

CONTACT WITH OVER 10 YEARS AGO AND NOT THOMAS AS

STATED.REFERENCE THE HERALD-THERE HAS BEEN AT LEAST TWO

ITEMS IN THE PAPER BY A

JAMES CRYAN ON BALLINADOON CHURCH Co SLIGO AND

THE HISTORY OF BALINAFAD.THE

FIRST ARTICLE I HAVE IN MY FOLDER WHEN I CAN FIND

IT,THE OTHER ONE, I DID

WRITE TO THE HERALD ABOUT BUT GOT NO REPLY ABOUT

1930.APPROX

REGARDS PATRICK

 

 

Date:   Thu, 31 Jan 2002 16:01:50 +0000 (GMT)

From:  "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> | Block Address  | Add to Address Book

Subject:          [Cryan et al.] drawings

To:       CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Hi

I put up the 2 drawings I found on my site at:

 

http://geocities.com/caoimhghin/cryanimages.html

 

caoimhghin

 

From:  CRANE769@aol.com | Block Address  | Add to Address Book

Date:   Thu, 31 Jan 2002 21:11:41 EST

Subject:          Cranes

To:       caoimhghin@yahoo.com

Kevin

 

I am very excited to have gotten your name and hope I can tap into your research.  I have for a very long time been attempting to locate town or Parish of my ancestors in Ireland.  Family oral history has them as Mayo people but no specific location.  I am directly decended from Dominic Crane b. about 1832 in Mayo I believe but am not certain.  He had at least four brothers Michael,Patrick, John and Lawrence and at least one sister,Catherine. There fathers name was Michael mothers name unknown.  Catherine was married to a Brehany in about 1844 I believe in Mayo again no Parish known. My Cranes migrated to Pennsylvania during the famine and became coal miners.  Lawrance became somewhat famous as a Mollie Maguire and I do believe his brothers were all involved as well. As you might imagine it was not the type of thing we ran our mouths about. In fact for a long time we were not allowed to even mention it outside the family.  Interestly the next generations produced a Bishop  Teachers, Lawyers etc., but oh boy that first generation had it a little tough and so  they could not have been all bad. Anyway I won't go into all that unless you are interested and I will wait to hear from you which I hope I do.  You certainly seem to be the man best informed about these Cryan, Crane Crean folks.

 

Date:   Fri, 1 Feb 2002 14:10:20 +0000 (GMT)

From:  "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> | Block Address  | Add to Address Book

Subject:          [Cryan et al.] Corporal Robert Cryan

To:       CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

 

Corporal Robert Cryan

14th Brooklyn Spanish American War Veterans

 

http://14thbrooklyn.net/LCRYAN.HTM

 

 

Date:   Fri, 1 Feb 2002 15:08:21 +0000 (GMT)

From:  "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> | Block Address  | Add to Address Book

Subject:          [Cryan et al.] articles

To:       CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Hi all

 

I have got back 35 articles [and 2 illustrations]

from

the Roscommon Library. Five members of the list

have

kindly accepted to type some articles. I will

send

them about 4 or 5 articles each. Is there anyone

else

who would be willing to type a few?

 

If so please send me your address.

Thanks

Caoimhghin

ps could Paul Cryan of Galway contact me as I

dont

have  his email address......

 

From:  Fatarm@aol.com | Block Address  | Add to Address Book

Date:   Fri, 1 Feb 2002 13:23:25 EST

Subject:          Re: [Cryan et al.] Corporal Robert Cryan

To:       caoimhghin@yahoo.com

Thank you for the posting, especially as the website had a great photo of the headstone!  May be my great, great uncle!  Thanks, Leslie

 

From:  "Paul Cryan" <paulcryan@eircom.net> | Block Address  | Add to Address Book

To:       "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>

Subject:          Re: [Cryan et al.] articles

Date:   Sat, 2 Feb 2002 01:50:40 -0000

Hi Keven

   I'm Paul Cryan in Leitrim paulcryan@eircom.net

.A Lowell Cryan a

decendent

 of James Cryan of Sroove In monasteraden Sligo.

                                        A fellow

Cryan

 

Date:   Sun, 3 Feb 2002 17:42:12 +0000 (GMT)

From:  "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> | Block Address  | Add to Address Book

Subject:          [Cryan et al.] articles

To:       CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Hi

I have sent articles to 6 people on the list -

please

keep the copies of the articles and email me the

typed

version in the body of the email [I have a lot of

problems with attachments]. Thanks again for your

assistance. I can then number them, credit the

typist

and put them on the list. I kept the articles to

on

average 4 each so there is still about 7 left. If

anyone else would like to type 3 or 4 articles

please

send me your address.

 

I am finished 1903 and 1904 and will be starting

1905

on Monday. I will soon be in the land of

photographic

illustrations so heres hoping I find a foto of a

Cryan, Crean etc as they were really beautiful

studio

portrait shots that the Roscommon Herald used

when

they started using fotos in their paper. If I do

find

any I will scan them and put them on my site

along

with the drawings I mentioned already in a

previous

mail.

 

caoimhghin

 

Date:   Sun, 3 Feb 2002 19:23:34 GMT

From:  "Karen McElrath" <K.McElrath@Queens-Belfast.AC.UK> | Block Address  | Add to Address Book

Reply-to:        K.McElrath@Queens-Belfast.AC.UK

Subject:          Re: [Cryan et al.] articles

To:       CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

caoimhghin:  thanks for your time and effort with

all of these details.  i am sure that

listers feel as i do - very appreciative.  karen

mcelrath

 

 

Date:   Sun, 3 Feb 2002 21:56:31 +0000 (GMT)

From:  "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> | Block Address  | Add to Address Book

Subject:          [Cryan et al.] Roscommon Herald Articles list 1902, 1903, 1904

To:       CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Roscommon Herald 1902

 

4 Jan

UIL Keash

JM Cryan JP

 

Boyle Union

John Cryan JP

m.

 

Football

Boyle Freebooters

Jack Cryan

M.

 

11 Jan

(Strokestown Petty Sessions

man bound to the peace for speaking Irish)

 

Jan 18

(Larceny -French girl tried with french trans)

 

Boyle Race Committee

Appeal to the town

J Cryan

Art

 

8 Feb

p4 Boyle Teachers Association

"(3) That we deeply sympathise with Mr Cryan and

family of Croghan on the premature death of John

Cryan" EJ Kenny and PJ Beirne, secs

 

 

15 mar

Boyle v Castlerea

John Cryan

Art

 

(P2 Ballaghdereen

Coleman-creamery)

 

Boyle Union

J Cryan jp

 

Supplement to Herald

Funeral of Henrietta Fry

With MR J Cryan and P Beirne NT Croghan

m

 

22 mar

p2 Obituary

Death of Miss Mary J Cryan

Croghan Female School

art

 

Supplement to Herald

Roscommon Union

Application of inmate Andrew Crean

5 children

art

 

April 5

(Erin the tear …

Lessons in Irish)

 

(Supplement to Herald

Death of centenarian Ellen Egan 113

b.1789)

 

19 apr

(Gaelic  notes-Sinn Fein

Hybrids re: Irish language)

 

Death of EC Robinson?

J Cryan

m.

 

Boyle Creamery

J Cryan

Art

 

26 Apr

News in Brief

Mr John Cryan, Chairman of Boyle No 2 District

Council

purchased a well bred bull at the Dublin Cattle

Show

for £40 from the representatives of the Rev. Mr

Smith,

Oaklands, Boyle.

 

Boyle Race Meeting

John Cryan

M

 

Lime for Sale at Cryans Kilns (Lately Judges)

Ad.

 

8 Mar

Obituary

Mrs Catherine Cryan

Bridgetown Carrick-on-Sshannon

Pat and John [sons]

Kate, S.J. and B. Fallon [daughters]

art.

 

3 May

The Elections

Boyle no 2

Templevanny John M Cryan

Carrowcrory

m.

 

14 Jun

Shocking Accident near Boyle

Mr Cryan’s

[death of John Naylor]

art.

 

cryan-l@rootsweb.com

Roscommon Herald Articles No. 64

13 Sep 1902

News in Brief

The numerous friends of Master T. Finn of

Clooneen,

Gurteen, Co. Sligo, will be glad to hear of his

success at the recent Civil Service examination.

Great

credit is due to Master Finn as he attended Mr.

Cryan’s Civil Service classes only for four

months

preceding the examination and was so fortunate to

be

so successful on his first attempt.

 

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Roscommon Herald Articles No. 65

13 Sep1902

Boyle Marriages

Cryan and Devine - On September 2nd at St Francis

Xavier’s church, Gardiner St, Dublin, with

Nuptial

Mass, Mr. John Cryan, merchant of Bridge St,

Boyle was

married to Miss Eleanor, Mary (May) Devine,

second

eldest daughter of Mr. Fitzmaurice Devine,

merchant,

Ballyfarnon, Co Roscommon. The marriage ceremony

was

performed by Rev George J Coyle PP, Highwood,

assisted

by Very Rev Canon B R Coyne PP VF, Boyle, and the

Very

Rev Fr Conmee SJ.

 

18 Oct 1902

Obituary

Michael Cryan

Ballymote Co Sligo

art.

 

25 oct 1902

[page 1 A Strange Language]

art

 

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Roscommon Herald Articles No. 66

 

15 Nov 1902

Boyle Petty Sessions

Bernard Cryan summoned his neighbour James

Spellman,

for the trespass of calves on his tillage on the

25th

and 29th of September. Spellman had a cross-case

against Cryan for the trespass of a goat on his

land

on the 5th of November.

Major Murphy suggested that it would be far

better for

them repair their fencesthan fining them. Cryan

protested that his fences were in excellent

repair

whilst Spellman vehemently alleged that they were

down

last Spring.

Major Murphy said they would give a decree for 2s

and

costs against Spellman and remarked that the

money

they had paid would repair the fences if they had

agreed to do so.

 

22 nov 1902

p10

Sligo Union

Big Change Proposed

Hugh Cryan

art

 

13 dec 1902

page 1[The Growth of the Gaelic League]

cartoon

 

13 dec 1902

Mohill Petty Sessions

Threatening Language

Joseph Cryan Aughadrumbeg

art

 

13 dec 1902

p8

Boyle Sub Land Commission

Cryan v King - Harman

James Cryan and son Andrew Cryan

art

 

20 dec 1902

p1

[the Anti-Gaelic Irish]

cartoon

 

fin

Roscommon Herald 1903

 

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Roscommon Herald Articles No. 67

 

17 jan 1903

News in Brief

There is a Mr Eugene Crean MP now perambulating

Roscommon who is held at his true value in his

native

Cork. Last year when he stood as a Town

Councillor he

was left at the very bottom of the poll when he

represented Queens County, the people got so

tired of

him that they hunted him and he had to try

elsewhere

and with all his frothy talk indoors he has

shunned

the risk of jail like the pestilence. He is a

“Bounder” of the Hebrew gold variety who will

never

risk his skin in prison.

 

21 mar 1903

p3

St Patricks Day in Ballaghdereen

art

 

 

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Roscommon Herald Articles No. 68

 

21 mar 1903

p6

Mohill Petty Sessions

Alleged Larceny

Luke Mc Keam summoned Patrick Cryan , Mary Cryan

and

Mary A Cryan for alleged larceny. Mr Corscadden -

I

appear for the defendants and I would ask your

worships to let the case stand until this day

fortnight. One of the defendants - Mrs Cryan - is

very

ill, and I was only informed of the matter last

night

by her husband. The case was accordingly

adjourned.

 

 

18 apr 1903

p3

[Castlerea man reminiscences

- history of castlerea - ]

art

 

25 apr 1903

p6

Boyle Petty Sessions

Sanitary Prosecutors

James Cryan , Ballinultha

art

 

2 may 1903

Mohill Petty Sessions (Co Leitrim)

Entreating Recognizances

Patrick Cryan

art

 

9 may 1903

p6

Bawnboy Union (Co Cavan)

Medical and Surgical Appliances

Dr Crean Newtowngore

art

 

16 may 1903

Obituary

[same page as Boyle Petty Sessions]

Michael Cryan , Carrowreagh, Carrick on Shannon

art

 

6 jun 1903

p6

Mr Cryan Re-elected Chairman

art

 

13 Jun

p8

List of all Applications [ad]

John M Cryan

art

 

27 June

p1

A Silent Member [drawing]

Councillor Cryan JP at Ballinafad Court

art

 

27 June

p3

Boyle Union

J Cryan JP

m

 

27 June

Ballinafad Petty Sessions (Co Sligo)

J M Cryan JP

m

 

18 July

p5

Bawnboy Union

Dr Crean

m

 

8 aug

p6

Ballaghdereen Petty Sessions (Co Mayo)

A Cregane Dispute

Martin Cryan

art

 

29 aug

p5

Boyle Petty Sessions

Assault [in Cryan’s Pub]

The Cross Cases

art

 

5 sep

p6

Ballaghdereen Petty Sessions (Co Mayo)

River as Mearing

Cregane

Martin Cryan

art

 

10 oct

p5

Ballymote petty sessions

(co sligo)

Rates

Mr Joseph Devine, poor rate collector sued Cecily

Cryan , Derrygolagh, for 3s 9 1/2 d poor rates. A

decree for the amount was given.

 

24 oct 1903

p1

[Drawing of Pat Hourican]

 

also

The King-Harmon Tenants

V Rev Canon Lowry

J M Cryan

art

 

also

p6

Boyle Quarter Sessions

Thursday

Ownership of a Stream

Martin Cryan of Cregane

art

 

7 nov

p7

Subland Commission Court in Boyle

5th col

Cryan vs same

James and Honoria Cryan

art

 

14 nov

p2

[Marriage of Coothall lady in Manchester

Catherine Judge daughter of mr and mrs Judge]

art

 

also

p3

Boyle No 1 District

3rd col

Deferred Payments

Mr Cryan

art

 

fin

 

Roscommon Herald 1904

 

27 feb

Dr Crean

Bawnboy Union

Co Cavan

m

 

23 apr

p2

Boyle Town Commissioners

1 The Exhibition Question

2 National Convention

art

 

7 may

p4

News in Brief

On Friday evening of last week whilst a farmer

named

Thomas Cryan of Oakfield was proceeding to his

home

from Strokestown market he took suddenly ill and

died

a short time afterwards.

 

18 jun

p1

[Soldiers and Irish language]

art

 

25 jun

p6

Mullaghroe Petty Sessions

Co Sligo

Threatening Language

Thomas Cryan and wife Hanoria

Steward on Coolavin Estate

art

 

2 jul

p8

Sligo Union

H Cryan

Coal contract

art

 

16 jul

p3

Roscommon Assizes

A Boyle TC

Mr John Cryan TC

ART

 

20 aug

[Clippings for the papers

Waterford

Disinterred for a kiss]

art

 

20 aug

p1

cartoon

[An Oratorical Pose Councillor Waters]

 

10 sep

p1

cartoon

[A thing seen at the Sligo Boardrooms

councillor waters]

art

 

1 oct

p1

[A surprise visit from Mr Martin Waters]

cartoon

 

8 oct

p2

Boyle Union

The Salaries

J Cryan

art

 

oct 29

p1

cartoon

Ballinamore Quarter Sessions

Hugh Creegan

Cloone

 

5 nov

p1

[Unsuppressible Martin Waters]

cartoon

 

12 nov

p3

Late Canon Nangle

Croghan

art

 

10 dec

p1

[cartoon

Mr Gibbons

Roscommon town]

fin

 

 

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Roscommon Herald Articles No. 69

10 oct

p5

Ballymote petty sessions

(co sligo)

Rates

Mr Joseph Devine, poor rate collector sued Cecily

Cryan , Derrygolagh, for 3s 9 1/2 d poor rates. A

decree for the amount was given.

 

 

 

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Roscommon Herald Articles No. 70

 

7 may

p4

News in Brief

On Friday evening of last week whilst a farmer

named

Thomas Cryan of Oakfield was proceeding to his

home

from Strokestown market he took suddenly ill and

died

a short time afterwards.

 

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Many of the people mentioned in the articles from

the newspaper can now be

identified from the 1901 census. Often the

townland is mentioned or perhaps

names of the neighbours are given. One can then

sort out which Mary or John

or James it could be

Thank you Caoimhghin

Eve

 

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Roscommon Herald Articles No. 71

 

29 apr

Died Cryan - On April 24th 1905 at his residence

in

Carrowcrory Michl Cryan.

Aged 86. Deeply regretted by his sorrowing family

RIP.

 

 

PAGE  1036

 

 

PAGE  1037

 

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Roscommon Herald Articles No. 72

15 Jul 1905

Boyle Petty Sessions
Disorderly Constable McGarry had James Cryan of
Mullaghroe summoned
for being drunk and disorderly. The constable
said
Cryans conduct was bad
but he was a quiet man when sober. He resisted
arrest
and when a constable
in plain clothes came to his assistance, Cryan
knocked
off his hat and broke it.
He was fined 7s 6d.

 

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Roscommon Herald Articles No. 73

Typed by Pat Hunt

Roscommon Herald
23 September 1901
Football Boyle v Carrick-On-Shannon
Although Boyle and Carrick-On-Shannon have always
been
old opponents in the football arena, hardly ever
allowing a season to pass without engaging in a
couple
of friendly encounters, still it was not until
Sunday
last they tried conclusions this year. The fact
of its
falling on St. Patrick's Day added greatly to the
crowd in attendance, which was a very large one.
The
Carrick team arrived in Boyle about two o'clock,
some
time after which both teams proceeded to the
field
convenient to the Railway Station, which kindly
given
for the occasion by Mr. Gordon, who is always
prepared
to offer every facility to the young men in the
town
in their efforts to promote healthy sport and
amusement, he having for several months each year
placed his splendid and valuable field at their
disposal. Some time after three o'clock the teams
took
up their positions on the field as follows:Ð
Boyle-Keaveney (goal); Cregg and Cryan
(full-backs);
Burke, O'Keeffe and Turbett, (half-backs);
Davitt,
McEwan, Rice, Levingstone and Dooley (forwards).
Carrick-On-Shannon - Graham (goal); H. O'Neill
and H.
Beirne (full backs); O. Moraghan, M, McGowan and
P.
Feely (half backs); J. Dunne, M. Moran, F.
Tumelty, W.
Beatty, and T. Padian (forwards). Boyle won the
toss,
and elected to play with the hill. There was a
strong
side-wind prevalent which was not of any material
advantage to any side. Rice commenced operations
by
passing to McEwan, who brought it along the wing,
and
for the first time succeeded in placing the
leather in
Carrick territory. Some interesting exchanges
took
place here, but Beirne saved by sending on
strongly to
Beatty. Play was now confined to midfield for
some
considerable time, until Burke got possession and
neatly sent on to McEwan who transferred to
Davitt.
The latter had a rather heavy game to play on his
wing
as the wind in that particular exposed quarter of
the
field was extremely violent, and it taxed all his
energies to keep the ball in play. Much delay was
called here by the leather being sent out of
play, a
matter which was of very frequent occurrence for
the
major part of this half. Although Boyle were
continually pressing, a splendid performance was
set
up by the Carrick backs, who kept their forwards
pretty busy. Some of the forwards were also
putting in
good work, notably Beatty and Moran, both of whom
were
prominent for their side throughout. They played
a
good game, but lacked the shooting qualities of
the
home team. Dooley and Levingstone, after about
twenty
minutes' play, brought the ball down with a nice
piece
of work, and the Carrick goal was threatened on
several occasions. This terminated in Boyle
procuring
a corner, which, however, did not result in a
conversion to any score. For the remainder of the
game
Boyle certainly had the better of the play, some
good
shots being sent in by McEwan, Rice and Davitt,
each
of whom were unlucky in not scoring. The Carrick
forwards made some good rushes, but the backs,
Cryan
and Cregg, seemed impenetrable. The latter
appeared a
bit off colour during the first quarter of an
hour,
but pulled up for it well subsequently, as he
along
with Cryan played a most determined and
scientific
game. Boyle were pressing hard when the whistle
announcing half time was sounded. The play then
stood
- Boyle, nil; Carrick, nil. On resuming, Boyle
set to
work in a real fashion, and showed a great deal
better
judgment than in the previous half. Play was not
long
in progress until it was obvious to everyone that
Boyle would score, despite the fact that they
were
fighting against the hill. After about ten
minutes
Dooley got possession from a pass from Burke and
played along the right wing from almost the touch
post
of which he sent in a splendid shot which just
crossed
the bar. After kick out a good exposition of
passing
took place between both teams which, however,
terminated in Davitt getting away, who sent on to
Dooley. Dooley neatly centred to Levingstone, who
shot
a goal amid great enthusiasm. After this the
visitors
apparently lost heart, and for some time their
custodian was kept busy, as the Boyle forwards
were
making regular target of their goal. McEwan,
Davitt
and Rice sent in some shots, but they were
slightly
erratic. After about fifteen minutes of the
second
half had elapsed a regular scrummage took place
about
fifteen yards from the Carrick goal, Davitt got
away,
but McGowan tackled and sent on to Tumulty. The
latter
had a clear field, but could not pass the backs.
O'Keeffe now kicked on to Dooley who passed to
McEwan.
Here an opportunity presented itself which McEwan
did
not let pass, as he kicked another goal, which,
however, for some reason was disallowed by the
referee. Close on full time, Boyle worked with a
vehemence, and shortly before the final whistle
sounded, Levingstone shot a beautiful goal from a
pass
by Dooley. At full time the score stood:- Boyle -
Two
goals, and one disputed goal. Carrick - Nil. The
visitors were entertained by the Boyle team,
after
which they left for home.

 

 

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Roscommon Herald Articles No. 74
Typed by Pat Hunt

 

Roscommon Herald
27 April 1901

With reference to the case of Mr Fitzsimmons
D.I. against Mr. Martin Cryan,
Keash, for an alleged breach of the Sunday
Closing Act, which was adjourned
from a previous court in consequence of the bench
being divided.
Mr Henn said that with regard to the
constitution of the bench today he
would not ask Mr Fitzsimmons to go on with it, as
Mr. O'Brien and he were
for convicting the last day, and Mr. Cryan and
Mr. Hannon were for
dismissing it.
Mr. Fitzsimmons said having regard to the
bench, he would not ask to go
with the case as it would be very unfair to Mr.
Cryan.
Mr Henn said they would adjourn the case to
the next court day, and ask
Mr. Hawkboy C.P.S. to inform the magistrates in
the district about the case,
and request them to attend.
The Court then adjourned.

 

 

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Roscommon Herald Articles No. 75
Typed by Pat Hunt

 

Roscommon Herald
30 March 1901
Brothers Differ
Thomas Crean v Martin Crean
Mr. Nolan for plaintiff, and Mr. P.C.P.
MacDermot,
Boyle for defendant Mr Nolan said that this case
was a
civil bill on title. The plaintiff and the
defendant
are brothers and the lands are situated at
Cloonfower.
For a great number of years the parties, with
their
father, mother and sister lived on the holding.
The
plaintiff, on his marriage, resided in one part
of the
house, and the defendant, with his father and
mother,
resided in the other. The father died some years
ago,
and the mother and sister last year. The
plaintiff was
the only person in possession, and he paid half
the
rent. The plaintiff deposed that he lives at
Cloonfower. His father died about 8 year ago
since
last June and his mother and sister died in
August.
There was nobody left in possession except
plaintiff,
his family, and his brother, the defendant. At
the
time of the plaintiff's marriage there was an
agreement between him and his father, and
plaintiff
continued in possession of half the holding
during the
life time of his father and mother. The father,
brother and sister continued living in the other
half,
and each paid half the rent equally, and the
receipt
was taken out in the father's name. Plaintiff's
brother got married recently, and plaintiff
demanded
possession, but the brother refused to give up
possession. Mr. Nolan read the agreement between
plaintiff and his father. Continuing, plaintiff
said
he saw that agreement signed and it was signed by
by
his father and Michael Broderick, a witness. Mr.
McDermot Ð It is one of those agreements that is
generally drawn up between blacksmiths or
carpenters,
and bears only a six penny stamp in it. His
Lordship
said he was afraid that agreement would not do.
It was
for £40, and should have a 10s stamp on it.
Cross-examined by Mr. McDermot, the plaintiff
said his
father did not make a will. The defendant did not
pay
the rent and they always considered that that
agreement should be acted upon. The defendant
never
got possession of the land. Plaintiff used to
give his
father half the rent, but there was only one
receipt
for it. William Broderick gave evidence as to
seeing
the agreement produced being made between Michael
Crean and the other parties to it. Mr McDermot
raised
an objection to the agreement, but on the
plaintiff's
paying £10 in to the court, and 10s for stamps,
His
Honor allowed the case to go on. Martin Crean,
the
defendant, said that he is a brother of the
plaintiff.
Defendant knew nothing about the agreement
(produced).
Defendant was paying rent for the land 22 years.
His
father did not go to the rent office for 18
years, and
defendant paid the rent for him. Defendant was
not
present at his brother's marriage, because he was
married privately. Defendant first heard of that
agreement when he himself was going to get
married, on
the 11th February last. On the 9th February he
made
arrangements to be married, and he spoke to his
brother about it, because he did not want to be
married without his brother knowing it. Defendant
is
paying the rent of this land. To His Lordship Ð
Defendant's father was the tenant. His Lordship Ð
I
think it was a very hard case on this man.
Plaintiff,
recalled, and in reply to his Lordship, said his
mother died in August last. Mr NolanÐAnd he was
entitled, my Lord, to the land on his mother's
death.
His LordshipÐI think I must give the decree, but
I
think it is a hard case on this man.
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Roscommon Herald Articles No. 76
Typed by Pat Hunt

Roscommon Herald
23 mar 1901

Tobacco for the Inmates

In accordance with his notice of motion, Mr
Waters
moved that the old men over sixty years of age in
the
house, and any old women who were so disposed, be
allowed tobacco in the week. Mr Jinks inquired
why had
Mr Waters brought on this resolution. Mr Waters
said
two men had died in the house last year, who
smoked
rhubarb leaves and other substitutes when they
could
not obtain tobacco. It was only fair to allow
those
poor inmates this small privilege, and if other
matters were looked into closely, it would be a
good
thing. Mr Cryan said that tobacco was a bad
medicine
for poor people.
Mr WatersÐIf you were badly off for a smoke, you
would
sooner have it than your breakfast.
Mr CryanÐI would sooner have my breakfast than a
smoke.
Mr Waters said that twenty years ago he smoked
seven
ounces of tobacco per week, but had given up the
practice long ago. Mr Jinks said that he was in
favour
of Mr Waters' suggestion. The chairman remarked
that
the ratepayers should be remembered. Mr Cryan
said the
remark should be made when people got increases
of £40
a year. They got it without a word.
Mr KeighronÐMr Cryan should withdraw that remark.
Mr CryanÐWe are guardians of the rich and not of
the
poor. Mr Waters' resolution was then put to the
meeting, and declared unanimously carried.

Dr Murray reported that there was a case of
scarlatina
in the female school. A girl named Kivlehan was
suffering from it, and he was about to get her
removed
to the county fever hospital.
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Kevin

I cannot believe it. I do believe I have located my Great Grandfathers immigration data on your web site. Dominic Cryan age 24, out of Liverpool in Aug of 1855 on the Dreadnaught. The time, his age , name and place of departure all jive pretty closely to what I know of him. Anybody out there that might have a connection. Pass it on and let me know.
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Roscommon Herald Articles No. 77
Typed by Paul Cryan
Roscommon Herald, August 10, 1901.
Boyle Creamery. Carrowcrory Auxiliary. Mr. Cryan
said
at their last meeting it was decided that the
Carrowcrory Committee come before them in proper
form.
Mr. Cryan then produced the minutes of the last
meeting of the Carrowcrory Provisional Committee,
from
which it appeared that the meeting was held on
Monday,
5th August. Mr. John Cryan, J.P., presided and
there
was a large attendance of the Committee. After
the
accounts were audited and found satisfactory, it
was
decided to appoint a representative on the Boyle
Society from each townland. It was proposed that
Mr.
Cryan and seconded by Mr. P. Gormley, that Mr. D.
Crofton, C.C., be appointed, and it was passed
unanimously. The following were also appointed -
Mr.
Gormley, who was proposed by Mr. Killoran and
seconded
by Mr. McGowan. Mr. Cryan who was proposed by Mr.
P.
Duignan and seconded by Mr. Lydon; Mr. P. Horan,
who
was proposed by Mr. McGowan and seconded by Mr.
Gray,
D.C., and Mr. O. Breheny, who was proposed by Mr.
Lydon and seconded by Mr. P. Breheny. Mr. Cryan
said
he was informed by the Manager (Mr. Gleeson) that
they
were only entitled to three representatives. He
asked
if there was anything in the rules to debar them.
Mr.
Gleeson said according to the rules laid down by
the
Irish Agricultural Organisation Society, they
were
only entitled to three representatives. Mr. Cryan
-
Major Murphy told me we would be entitled to have
one
from each townland. Mr. McDonagh said they could
be
allowed one for each townland on the Provisional
Committee, but not on the Central. Mr. Cryan - We
have
two from each townland on the Provisional
Committee.
Mr. McGoldrick said he had great pleasure in
proposing
that Messrs. D. Crofton, Patrick Gormeley and
John
Cryan be co-opted on the Central Committee as
representatives of Carrowcrory auxiliary. Mr.
McWilliams seconded the proposition, and it was
passed
unanimously. This was all the business before the
meeting.

 

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Roscommon Herald Articles No. 78
Typed by Paul Cryan

Roscommon Herald 20 July 1901
BALLINTUBBER PETTY SESSIONS
Assault Thomas Cryan, Knockaligan, summoned James
Brown, of Castlerehan, for assaulting him on 6th
July.
Complainant deposed - I was working in my own
garden
on 6th July. Defendant's children were going
through
my crop. I went to stop them; defendant and his
son
ran down to the mearing ditch. Defendant caught a
hold
of me and pulled me across the ditch, and he
threw me
down on the rocks. He got up on my chest, and
'pounded' me under him. He knocked the blood out
of my
eyes, and stirred the teeth in my head. I will
have to
go to the hospital with my stomach and side. To
Mr.
Harrel - There is no pathway through my crop.
They
want to pull down my ditch. Witness (to
defendant) - I
stopped your children on the pathway. I had no
shovel.
Defendant stated that complainant said he would
wear
the children's heads against the wall. When he
saw the
shovel with him, he went down to the children,
and he
made a blow of the shovel at me. I caught a hold
of
the shovel, and complainant came across the ditch
with
it. I did nothing to him. Here complainant
gesticulated the treatment he received from the
defendant. Defendant claimed there is a
right-of-way
always through complainant's land. Mr. Harrel -
There
seems to be a claim of right-of-way. I will
adjourn
the case to Castlerea on Saturday, and let the
complainant have an independant witness to show
if
there is a right-of-way or not. In the meantime,
the
defendant is not to go there until the case is
decided.
Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2002 18:25:21 +0000 (GMT)
From: "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> | Block Address | Add to Address Book
Subject: [Cryan et al.] Roscommon Herald Articles No. 79
To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
Roscommon Herald Articles No. 79
Typed by Paul Cryan

Roscommon Herald 29 June 1901
BALLYMOTE PETTY SESSIONS (CO. SLIGO) THE KEASH
LICENSING CASE AGAIN ADJOURNED

These petty sessions were held on Thursday before
Messrs. F.B. Henn, R.M., presiding; W. Jones,
R.M.;
J.D. O'Brien, J.P. The Keash Case When the case
of
District Inspector Fitzsimons against Martin
Cryan,
Carrowreagh, for an alleged breach of the
Licensing
Act on the 17th March was called. Head Constable
Beirne said in this case, the prosecutor and
principal
witnesses are absent on duty in the County
Leitrim,
and he would ask their worships to adjourn the
cases
until next court day. The District Inspector was
absent, and the sergeant of the station, who is
the
principal witness, was also absent. In the cases
against Pat Dyer and Michael Henry, who were
summoned
for being found on the premises on the occasion,
application was also made to have them adjourned.
Mr.
Henn said the cases were hanging on since the
17th
March. The cases were adjourned until next court
day
at the request of the complainant.

 

Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2002 18:26:01 +0000 (GMT)
From: "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> | Block Address | Add to Address Book
Subject: [Cryan et al.] Roscommon Herald Articles No. 80
To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
cryan-l@rootsweb.com
Roscommon Herald Articles No. 80
Typed by Paul Cryan

Roscommon Herald 8 June 1901
BOYLE NO. 2 DISTRICT MR. CRYAN RE-ELECTED

A meeting of the Boyle No. 2 Council was then
held,
over which Mr. John Cryan presided. Mr. O'Dowd
said he
had great pleasure in proposing Mr. John Cryan as
chairman of the No. 2 Council for the current
year. He
thought he had done his work very fairly in the
past.
Of course, on the death of their late chairman,
Mr.
Hunt, Mr. Cryan was co-opted, and during the time
he
was in office he had done his work very
satisfactorily
to the Council. Mr. O. Queenan seconded, and it
was
passed unanimously. Chairman - I thank you very
much
for the confidence you have placed in me, and I
hope
to give satisfaction. I hope some other gentleman
present will be ready to take the position next
year.
Mr. Casey proposed and Mr. Gray seconded that Mr.
O'Dowd be re-elected vice-chairman. It was passed
unanimously. Mr. O'Dowd thanked them for the
honour.
During the short time he occupied the position of
vice-chairman, it was not easy for him to attend,
but
for the future he would try and do his best, and
attend as regularly as possible.

Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2002 18:26:55 +0000 (GMT)
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Subject: [Cryan et al.] Roscommon Herald Articles No. 81
To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
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Roscommon Herald Articles No. 81
Typed by Paul Cryan

Roscommon Herald, July 20, 1901.
Mullaghroe Petty Sessions (Co. Sligo)
A NEW R.M. PRESIDES.
These petty sessions were held on Thursday before
Captain Crene, R.M., and Mr. Charles Graham, J.P.
Trespass Mr. James Beirne, Tourane, sued Mrs.
Mary
McKeon, Moygarn, for trespass of cattle on his
lands
at various dates. Michael Mulligan, the herd,
deposed
that on 15th May he got four cattle belonging to
the
defendant on pasture land. On 20th May, seven
sheep
and eight lambs on con-acre potatoes. On the 24th
May,
two cattle on pasture land, and on the 26th May,
three
sheep and five lambs in con-acre potatoes. He
gave the
cattle up to the herd, and demanded trespass.
Patrick
McKeon, son of the defendant, cross-examined
Mulligan,
and asked him if the sheep were fettered.
Mulligan
said they were not, and were trespassing that
morning
and were not fettered. Capt. Crene - Do you admit
they
were in it? McKeon - Oh, yes. A decree for 4s.
5d.
trespass was given, and costs. More Trespass
Michael
Mulligan, who proved the offences in the last
cases,
sued Mrs. McKeon for the trespass of 13 head of
cattle
on his heap of potatoes on the 8th May. A decree
for
6s. 6d. and costs was given. Bound to the Peace.
Michael Towey, Clogher, summoned Dominick
Sherlock,
same place, for using threatening language
towards him
on the 10th June. Towey deposed that on the day
in
question Sherlock was shouting, and calling for
him or
his son to fight him. Sherlock said he would
stand one
round (laughter). He was at his work, and did not
come
next or near him. All he wanted is that Sherlock
should pass his door and leave him and his family
alone. Defendant called him all sorts of bad
names. He
(plaintiff) was the bailiff on the estate. Capt.
Crene
- I don't care what you are. Tell us what he
said.
Towey - He said if I came before him there would
not
be much of me left. Capt. Crene - Will you swear
you
are afraid he will do you bodily harm? Towey - I
am
afraid he will beat me if he gets me alone.
Sherlock -
Did you ever hear me insult you on the road?
Towey - I
heard you. You always insult me when you have
drink
taken. Capt. Crene said people would have to obey
the
law, and conduct themselves on the road.
Defendant
would have to find sureties, himself in £5, and
two
sureties of £2 10s. each, to be of good behaviour
for
six months, or in default go to jail for two
months.

From: Fatarm@aol.com | Block Address | Add to Address Book
Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2002 13:21:27 EST
Subject: [Cryan et al.] Parish histories website
To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
On the Ireland books mail group there has been a
discussion of what wonderful
sources Parish Histories are. I thought some of
you might be interested in
knowing of some of these resources. One of the
subscribers to that list has
posted those he knows of to his website:
http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/books/parishes.html

My best to you all, Leslie
Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 16:46:16 +0000 (GMT)
From: "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> | Block Address | Add to Address Book
Subject: refs
To: caoimhghin@yahoo.com
1905
25 jan
Boyle Quarter Sessions
3rd col
Malicious injury
Pat Cryan Carrowreagh
art
also
6th col
A Ballybane Suit
Darby Crann
art

11 feb
Presentation Brothers Schools
Children in School Choir
Peter and Eugene Cryan
m

18 feb
News in Brief page
Cartoon and Story of Dr Hyde
art

15 apr
Ballinamore Quarter Sessions
Wednesday
Creegan vs Clem....
art

29 apr
Died
Cryan - On April 24th 1905 at his residence in
Carrowcrory Michl Cryan. Aged 86. Deeply
regretted by
his sorrowing family RIP.
Also
Obituary
Same page as Clippings form the Papers
Death of Mr M Cryan
father of JM Cryan JP
chairman of Boyle No2 Council
art

May 6
Boyle No 1 District
Nominations
Ballyfarnon
Denis Cryan
m

3 jun
Boyle Quarter Sessions
MONDAY
Alleged tresspass
Peter Cryan Bailiff on Mrs Caddells Estate
m

also
News in Brief
Co Sligo
JM Cryan chairman re elected for the 5 th time
m

24 jun
[p1
cartoon
Pat Breheny]

15 Jul
Boyle Petty Sessions
Disorderly
Constable McGarry had James Cryan of Mullaghroe
summoned for being drunk and disorderly. The
constable
said Cryans conduct was bad but he was a quiet
man
when sober. He resisted arrest and when a
constable in
plain clothes came to his assistance, Cryan
knocked
off his hat and broke it. He was fined 7s 6d.

5 aug
[Clippings
Act of Vandalism
Clonmacnoise
art]

12 aug
News in Brief page
last col
Sudden Death
Michael Cryan
Dockloonagh
art

2 sep
Ballaghdereen Petty Sessions
Series of Assaults
1st col
art
next page
Mullaghroe Petty Sessions
Row About a Pass
Thomas Cryan Clogher
art

9 sep
p1
hugh Cryan
drawing

30 sep 1905
[News in Brief page
last col
Irish names on carts
art]

7 oct 1905
9th col
News in Brief page
obituary
Thomas Cryan
Townaghbrack NS
Ballaghdereen
art

14 oct
News in Brief page
Elections of Petty Sessions Clerk
JM Cryan JP
ART
also
Boyle Elections Petitions
Mr Jones Oates
AND
Mr Cryan
articles

21 oct 1905
Clippings page
Sligo Union
The Suspended Porter
and
The Milk
H Cryan
art

28 oct 1905
p1
convicted 11
Cryan
drawing

also
Clippings page
Boyle Quarter Sessions
A Clogher Case
Thomas Cryan
art
[ends at Tarmonbarry case]

[11 nov 1905
p2
Strokestown Petty Sessions
Irish Names on CARTS
ART]

[18 nov 1905
Roosky Petty Sessions
THe Irish Language
art]

 

 

 

 

 

DRAWINGS
1908
21 mar 1908
Johnny Cryan
drawing
20 jun 1908
John Cryan JP
drawing
25 jul 1908
John Cryan Boyle
drawing
25 jul 1908
pat early
drawing
26 sep 1908
John Cryan
drawing
14 nov 1908
Peter Cryan Bailiff Caddell Est
drawing
2 oct 1909
James Cryan Ballinamore
drawing
6 nov 1909
Luke Cryan Caddell Est
drawing
13 nov 1909
Darby Crann Leam
drawing
25 dec 1909
Martin Cryan Caddell Est
drawing
16 apr 1910
waters
drawing
15 oct 1910
Peter Cryan Bailiff Caddell Est
drawing
21 sep 1912
Peter Cryan sub agent Caddell Est
drawing
28 sep 1912
Bally mote court
John Cryan Derrygoola
drawing
19 oct 1912
Martin Coleman
Ballaghdereen
drawing
30 nov1912
P Cryan
Ballymote
drawing

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Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 19:44:50 -0000
Subject: [Cryan et al.] Re CRYAN?CARROLL
To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
Especially for Joan Ogg(the email address on the
Leitrim and Roscommon site
is not working for you/out of date perhaps) but
others may be interested.

I note from many Cryan lists that you are
interested in Bridget Carroll nee
Cryan.
Have you looked at the website www.Interment.net
which gives monumental
inscriptions of some Irish cemeteries. The lists
are not complete but in
Assylinn Cemetery ,Boyle is
Bridget Carroll(Cryan) d. no dates, wife of
Cormack
Disappointing that there are no dates but an
indication of where to look
further.
Do you have all Bridget and Cormack's children -
just in case, this is what
I have
all baptised in Boyle and from the Boyle parish
register and with slight
variations of Cormack/Cormick and Cryan/Cryne etc

Bridget christened 18Feb1849
James c 22May 1850
James c 11 Nov 1851
Margaret c 4 Sept 1853
James c 21 Oct 1855
Bridget 19 Dec 1857
Winafred c 25 May 1862

Sadly it looks as though Bridget 1849,James 1850
and James 1851 all died
young.
The sequence of names looks as though James and
Bridget are Cormack's
parents so I searched for these and came up with
James Carroll and Bridget Gallagher as parents of
Anna c 17 March 1818
Patrick c 14 March 1823
Johanna c 17 Dec 1845
unfortunately no Cormack , but possible, in that
James Gallagher was witness
at Cormack Carroll and Bridget Cryan's marriage
thet you give as on 17 Feb
1848.(in my list 4th Feb 1848)

Bridget Cryan is a bit difficult in that there
are at least 8 Bridgets born
in the 1820s. None had a mother called Margaret.
One (c1 Feb 1831 in Taunagh
RC but would have been only 17 when married) had
parents James Cryan and
Winifred McDonagh. However Bridget Cryan c 9 oct
1822 in Boyle RC with
parents Michael Cryan and Bridget Fury had a
sister Winifred c 24 Oct 1820
and a sister Margaret c 5 April 1826. Also this
last family has a James
Cryan c 20 july 1824 who I think married Honour
Bierne and lived in
Ballynanultagh about 1 -2 miles from Garrow
Take your pick..............

I also found James Carroll and family in Garrow
in the 1901 census and then
thought could Bridget Carroll be still alive in
1901?(the graves in Assylinn
Cemetery date from about 1892 so it is possible).
No one of the correct age
came up as a householder but putting Carroll in
the "Others in Household "
box the following came up....

Gortanure South - Mohill - Mohill - Leitrim -
Household - McGuiness -
Peter(55) - Farmer/widower - John(17)-Bridget
Carroll(70) servant/widow -

Could this be her? It is within the bounds of
possibility as the ages of the
older people are often largely conjecture.

I am sure that you have much of this but I hope
that it is helpful and
possible add a tiny morsel.
Good Luck Eve

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Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 08:31:30 EST
Subject: Newspapers - Cryan
To: caoimhghin@yahoo.com
Kevin,

Thought I would pass this on to you as it is a
resource I have recently
found. Try searching the PRO Catalog online. I
took a quick look by just
putting Cryan in the search field. It returned
16 hits, a couple which have
the initial of J.
You could also try keying 'Royal Irish
Constabulary' as a search to see if
any likely sources might turn up.

I have never ordered anything through them but
believe their website
instructions are pretty clear. Hope one of them
is yours.

See:
http://catalogue.pro.gov.uk/

You don't have to 'Log In' ..... you can simply
click on "Search the catalog"

Good luck,
Sherri Delaney

Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 22:39:07 +0000 (GMT)
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Subject: [Cryan et al.] PRO UK
To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
http://catalogue.pro.gov.uk/

You ran a basic search on "cryan".


There were 16 hits within catalogue entry
details.
Hits 1 to 16 are shown below sorted by catalogue
reference.

PRO Reference Title/Scope and Content Covering
Dates
ASSI 65/46/2 Cryan, Edward 1942
BT 372/1209/39 R511064 CRYANS C 10/04/1932
GLASGOW
1913 - 1972
BT 372/1655/145 R592425 CRYANS R 06/09/1925
LOSSWADE
1913 - 1972
BT 372/1698/46 R600948 CRYANS P J 14/02/1933
LASSWADE
1913 - 1972
BT 372/1904/162 R642397 CRYAN M J 05/07/1931
CANONAGALTON EIRE 1913-1972
BT 372/2002/89 R662295 CRYAN J 25/02/1928 BOYLE
1913-1972
BT 372/2796/182 R860273 CRYAN M C 15/12/1946
BOYLE
COUNTY ROSCOMMON EIRE 1913 - 1972
DPP 2/1045 CRYAN: Murder 1942
PIN 26/3579 Name: CRYAN WNature of Disability:
Nephritis 1915-1924
WO 97/269/118 MICHAEL CRYAN Born ARDERCARNA,
Roscommon
Served in 5th Foot Regiment; Roscommon Militia
Discharged aged 33 1809-1824
WO 97/402/63 THOMAS CRYAN Born KILINACORAN, Sligo
Served in 20th Foot Regiment Discharged aged 32
1817-1830
WO 339/30920 CRYAN R W W, Lieut 1914-1919; 1926
WO 339/76340 CRYAN H [1914-1922]
WO 339/119409 CRYAN P [1914-1922]
WO 339/126243 CRYAN J [1914-1922]
WO 339/127708 CRYAN J

 

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Subject: [Cryan et al.] PRO UK crean

 

 

 

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http://catalogue.pro.gov.uk/

Search Results


You ran a basic search on "crean".


There were 51 hits within catalogue entry
details.
These hits are summarised below by department.
Click
on a 'hits' link to confine your search to that
section of the catalogue.

PRO Reference Title/Scope and Content Covering
Dates
Hits

BT Records of the Board of Trade and of successor
and
related bodies 19

You ran a basic search on "crean" restricted to
reference(s): BT.


There were 19 hits within catalogue entry
details.
Hits 1 to 19 are shown below sorted by catalogue
reference.

PRO Reference Title/Scope and Content Covering
Dates
BT 372/132/75 R168932 CREAN M 01/01/1922 KINSALE
BT 372/154/41 R177642 CREAN D F 17/10/1922 BANDON
BT 372/165/54 R181821 CREANE J J 04/01/1922
COUNTY
SLIGO
BT 372/475/97 R260481 CREAN W J 19/07/1924
CARDIFF
1913-1972
BT 372/528/55 R271694 CREAN C 05/07/1926 CARDIFF
1913-1972
BT 372/608/9 R286980 CREAN J J 28/04/1926 NEWTON
1913-1972
BT 372/746/30 R313454 CREAN R 30/06/1916 CORK
BT 372/1111/33 R412252 CREAN J G 20/08/1931
CARDIFF
1913 - 1972
BT 372/1351/26 R536019 CREAN T 27/05/1933 CARDIFF
1913-1972
BT 372/1451/151 R553554 CREAN J J 15/07/1933
DUBLIN
1913-1972
BT 372/1555/126 R572839 CREAN M H 27/04/1931
LONDON
1913-1972
BT 372/1880/100 R637522 CREAN R 27/08/1929
BELFAST
1913-1972
BT 372/1972/162 R656412 CREAN W M 01/07/1930
LIVERPOOL
1913-1972
BT 372/1980/198 R658176 CREAN J 20/06/1930
BELFAST
1913-1972
BT 372/2006/91 R663095 CREAN M A 22/02/1932
LIVERPOOL
1913-1972
BT 372/2025/101 R667106 CREAN A I 03/02/1934
WEXFORD
1913 - 1972
BT 372/2487/67 R777310 CREAN J P 09/04/1940
LIVERPOOL
1913 - 1972
BT 372/2732/57 R841720 CREAN P R 05/08/1950
BIRKENHEAD
1913 - 1972
BT 372/2859/48 R878668 CREAN T D 07/11/1937
LIMERICK
1913 - 1972

 

 

 

 

 

WO Records created or inherited by the War
Office,
Armed Forces, Judge Advocate General, and related
bodies 14

You ran a basic search on "crean" restricted to
reference(s): WO.


There were 14 hits within catalogue entry
details.
Hits 1 to 14 are shown below sorted by catalogue
reference.

PRO Reference Title/Scope and Content Covering
Dates
WO 32/7477 DECORATIONS AND MEDALS: Victoria Cross
(Code 50(M)): South Africa: Awards to Surgeon
Capt. T
Crean Imperial Light Horse and Lieut. L Maggar,
Victorian Mounted Rifles; reports and statements
regarding action S. Africa 1901 1902
WO 97/35/61 GEORGE CREAN Born KILMORE, Monaghan
Served
in 15th Dragoons (Light); 6th Dragoons Discharged
aged
44 1830-1853
WO 97/260/102 JOHN CREANE Born RAHOON, Galway
Served
in 4th Foot Regiment; 54th Foot Regiment
Discharged
aged 41 1826-1847
WO 97/304/40 MICHAEL WALLACE CREAN Born KILLABA,
Mayo
Served in 32nd Foot Regiment; 9th Foot Regiment;
96th
Foot Regiment Discharged aged 36 Covering date
gives
year of discharge. 1786
WO 97/419/92 THOMAS CREAN Born BALLINIROBE, Mayo
Served in 22nd Foot Regiment Discharged aged 42
1828-1849
WO 97/485/122 MARTIN CREAN Born ROSCOMMON,
Roscommon
Served in 30th Foot Regiment Discharged aged 42
1822-1844
WO 97/790/112 MARTIN CREAN Born TOOMORE, Mayo
Served
in 66th Foot Regiment Discharged aged 22
1840-1843
WO 97/968/122 PATRICK CRENE alias PATRICK CREANE
Born
KILCOLMAN, Mayo Served in 88th Foot Regiment
Discharged aged 34 1833-1849
WO 121/27/327 DANIEL CREAN Born YOUGHAL, Cork
Served
in 4th Foot Regiment Discharged aged 21 after 10
years
of service 1796
WO 121/67/282 PATRICK CREAN Born LONDONDERRY,
Londonderry Served in Garrison Battalion; Jersey
Invalids Discharged aged 60 after 15 years of
service
1803
WO 339/30619 CREAN H E, Capt 1915-1921; 1940
WO 339/64408 CREAN H [1914-1922]
WO 374/16492 CREAN, 2/Lieut J 1914-1917
WO 399/1854 CREAN Hanora 01/01/1914 - 31/12/1920

 

 

 

 

HO Records created or inherited by the Home
Office,
Ministry of Home Security, and related bodies 5

You ran a basic search on "crean" restricted to
reference(s): HO.


There were 5 hits within catalogue entry details.
Hits
1 to 5 are shown below sorted by catalogue
reference.

PRO Reference Title/Scope and Content Covering
Dates
HO 44/22 Parliamentary reform: J Crean, offering
to
present a plan to prevent riots 1830 Nov 15
HO 44/22 John Crean, suggesting measures to
prevent
unauthorised extinguishing of gas lighting in
London.
Related letters at ff 253-254; 23, f 28 1830 Nov
17
HO 44/22 John Crean, further to letter at f 230.
Related letter at 23, f 28 1830 Nov 20
HO 44/23 John Crean, further to letters at 22, ff
230,
253-254 1830 Dec 4
HO 45/10687/226034 ALBERT MEDAL: Petty Officer
Thomas
Crean - awarded. 1912 - 1913

 

 

 

 

T Records created and inherited by HM Treasury
4

You ran a basic search on "crean" restricted to
reference(s): T.


There were 4 hits within catalogue entry details.
Hits
1 to 4 are shown below sorted by catalogue
reference.

PRO Reference Title/Scope and Content Covering
Dates
T 1/440/17-18 ENGLAND AND WALES,ARMY AND
NAVY,Miscellaneous correspondence from the Army
and
Admiralty Offices:Memorial of James Crean, late
Captain and Paymaster of the 49th Regiment in
Jamaica
for expenses in relation to money advanced to the
late
Lieut Henry Ashurst 1765 Oct 18
T 1/11503 F.A. Crean. Compensation claim against
Birmingham Corporation for loss of office as
registration canvasser. 1912
T 1/11678 Parliamentary Question. [E. Crean,
M.P., 17
September, 1914]. Payment of salary of a member
of
Parliament who has filed a petition in
bankruptcy.
1914
T 1/12610 Messrs. Alex P. Foott and Son. Estate
of
Sgt. C. Crean, decd., Royal Irish Constabulary:
remission of estate duty. 1920

 

 


C Records created, acquired, and inherited by
Chancery, and also of the Wardrobe, Royal
Household,
Exchequer and various commissions 3

You ran a basic search on "crean" restricted to
reference(s): C.


There were 3 hits within catalogue entry details.
Hits
1 to 3 are shown below sorted by catalogue
reference.

PRO Reference Title/Scope and Content Covering
Dates
C 10/123/113 Duke, Creane v. Duke; Essex 1670
C 11/2172/31 Carroll v. Creane 1725
C 12/421/72 Crean v. Skutt 1781

 

 

 

TS Records created or inherited by the Treasury
Solicitor and HM Procurator General's Department
1

LCO Records of the Lord Chancellor's Office and
of
various legal commissions and committees 1

COAL Records created or inherited by the National
Coal
Board, and of related bodies 1

 

B Records of the Office of the Commissioners of
Bankrupts, the successor bankruptcy courts, and
the
Court for the Relief of Insolvent Debtors 1

 

ASSI Records of Justices of Assize, Gaol
Delivery,
Oyer and Terminer, and Nisi Prius 1

AIR Records created or inherited by the Air
Ministry,
the Royal Air Force, and related bodies 1

Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 22:50:55 +0000 (GMT)
From: "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> | Block Address | Add to Address Book
Subject: [Cryan et al.] PRO UK crehan
To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
http://catalogue.pro.gov.uk/

You ran a basic search on "crehan".


There were 7 hits within catalogue entry details.
Hits
1 to 7 are shown below sorted by catalogue
reference.

PRO Reference Title/Scope and Content Covering
Dates
BT 372/945/121 R351647 CREHAN J 14/05/1923
IRELAND
1913-1972
BT 372/1500/19 R562183 CREHAN M J 22/07/1933
ROTHERHAM
1913-1972
BT 372/2282/179 R725905 CREHAN P J 09/09/1938
ORAN
1913 - 1972
BT 372/2347/223 R741309 CREHAN J 02/02/1929
MANCHESTER
1913 - 1972
BT 372/2439/127 R764845 CREHAN J T 02/11/1941
BLACKPOOL 1913 - 1972
WO 97/1144/201 TIMOTHY CREHANE Born [Not Known]
Served
in 4th Garrison Battalion Discharged aged 50
Covering
date gives year of discharge. 1803
WO 339/62256 CREHAN W [1914-1922]

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Subject: [Cryan et al.] PRO UK crine
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BT 226/2608 Crine, Thomas Joseph
BT 372/1040/105 R399064 CRINE J B 17/04/1931
DOUGLAS
1913-1972
BT 372/2150/21 R696178 CRINE M J 24/08/1938
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CUST 49/1908 Import duties: exemption of raffia
or
"crin vegetal" in consideration of concessions
from
French government, in respect of certain empire
goods
01/01/1936 - 31/12/1936
PL 31/717 Ram Spinning Co. Ltd. v. Crinion 1913
WO 97/544/26 JOHN CRINE Born RESONDRA, Sligo
Served in
38th Foot Regiment Discharged aged 39 1825-1847
WO 97/2589 Crib - Crin 1883-1900
WO 121/71/64 EDWARD KELLY Born CRINES, Mayo
Served in
14th Foot Regiment Discharged aged 32 after 11
years 2
months of service 1804
WO 339/3810 CRINION T C, Lieut 1914-1921; 1933
WO 339/17258 CRINION F, Lieut 1914-1921
WO 339/65959 CRINE T [1914-1922]
WO 374/16597 CRINE, 2/Lieut L A 1915-1920
WO 374/16598 CRINE, Lieut O 1915-1921

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EGMONT of Sydney, MICHAEL FITZSIMONS, Master,
Burthen
388 Tons from the Port of NEW CALEDONIA to
SYDNEY, ...

... passenger steerage cryan miss passenger
steerage
atkinson miss ...

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Master, Burthen 388 Tons . from the Port of NEW
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Subject: [Cryan et al.] Re: pubs, gurteen
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this one from the SLIGO-LIST. karen

Public Houses (Bars) in Gurteen, 1930 and (1980).

Gurteen:
Sarah McDONAGH.
KILROY'S (Teach MURRAY).
FLYNN'S (Central Bar).
MULLIGAN'S (Roisin Dhu).

Mahanagh:
FLYNN'S (Brown Trout).

Mullaghroe:
MULLANNEY'S (Lough Gara Bar).
CUSACK'S.

Rathmadder:
KELLY'S Hotel (Rathmadder Inn).
Castle View Bar.

Ragwood:
The Sailor JORDAN'S.

Monasteraden:
CRYAN'S Hotel (NICHOLSON'S Hotel).
DRURY'S Bar.

Jim McDonald
culrua@iol.ie
Source: Fr. John Finn's 'Gurteen it's history,
traditions and antiquities'
(1981).

 

 

 

 

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Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 00:25:10 -0000
Subject: [Cryan et al.] Townlands - Grophy
To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
Some time ago we had a discussion about the name
Grophy which came from the
parish registers of Ballaghadereen/Kilcolman
which I had just been perusing
and extracting Cryans from.

Grophy doen not exist in any townland list - so
what could it be? (the PRs
were difficult to read and that was the nearest
interpretation)

I now have seen "Ghroof" as a phonetic spelling
This then takes it a step nearer to what I now
think the current spelling
is.

ie
Grophy = Ghroof = Sroove
in Kilcolman civil parish and between Gurteen and
Ballaghadereen

Eve -

 

 

 

Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2002 21:21:53 +0000
Subject: pat
From: "Pat Hunt" <pathunt@indigo.ie> | Block Address | Add to Address Book
To: "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>
Caoimhghin,

Pages to hand; will type over the next few
days. God Bless your
eyesight, for I could not read those pages for a
sustained period of time.
That's what put me off the reading room in the
National Library.

I presume the purple, indeed lugubrious
prose, describing St Patrick's
Day in Ballaghaderreen was intended for my eyes.

Browsing through the court cases reminded me
of something I should have
brought to your attention before now. John
Hannan (or Hannon, depending on
the whim of the journalist or priest) of Kilfree
married a girl from Lavin
and went to live in her home place at Keash.

It was not a happy union. But that's not the
point of interest. There is
a story that he once killed a man. The best I
could figure out is that may
have been a row with another man, manslaughter.
Certainly not murder. There
would have been much ado about that in the
courts. I have no idea of the
date or year, but Hannan died in 1907 or 1908, at
a relatively young age.
Any chance that you might have come across that
court case (if there was
one) or maybe it is yet to come in Herald
reports.

A chap by name of Beirne in the Keash area
was a noted matchmaker. He
made my grandmother Hannan's match with Patrick
Drury, an NT from
Monasteraden (Lomcloon) who became principal
teacher of Keash NS.

Thank you. I will attend to the pieces when
there's nice natural light
beaming through my garret window.

Pat Hunt

 

 

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Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 20:19:38 EST
Subject: Cryan Family Tree
To: caoimhghin@yahoo.com, Fatarm@aol.com, tobinmi@hotmail.com, Crogmos@aol.com, ljstandak@webtv.net
CC: Cryandm@aol.com, , cryan@avana.net
Hello,

I am new to the family research and am interested
in tracing my family tree.
I noticed quite a bit of information on the Cryan
name on-line, though I
don't have access to some of the web pages. My
name is Daniel M. Cryan. My
father is Robert T. Cryan Jr., and his Father was
Robert T. Cryan.

Robert T. Sr's father, to the best of my
knowledge was Austin (S?) Cryan. His
wife was Josaphine Griffin. I have birthdates
and all to this point. What
I'm missing is information on Austin's family
(from Ireland). It appears
Austins parents were Robert Austin Cryan and his
wife was Sarah Otis. This
line of Cryan's settled in upstate NY (at least
Robert T. Cryan and down. I
notice a lot of information on Cryan's in the
Mass. area, and some in NYC.

I also saw a rather interesting piece about my
grandfather (Robert T.) and
his time in the FBI, posted by caoimhghin, and
other information by Leslie
(Fatarm@aol.com). Thank-you.

I travel a bit for work, and will be through the
end of this year. Once my
travels are done I plan on spending some time at
the Archives in DC and I am
willing to help fill any gaps and I would
appreciate any help you can provide
as well.

Thanks in advance,

Dan Cryan
cryandm@aol.com

P.S. I did find a lot on the web (Family
archives), it's just a bit
overwhelming, at least until I can determine if
all the others are related as
well.

Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2002 19:02:51 +0000 (GMT)
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Roscommon Herald Articles No. 82

Typed by Ellen Herron
Roscommon Herald
22 November 1902

SLIGO UNION
Attempt to change the day of meeting

Big Change Proposed
Mr. Jinks' notice of motion to change the days of
meeting from Saturdays to Tuesdays was next
before the
meeting.
In moving his notice of motion Mr. Jinks said
judging
from the number of guardians whom he saw present
he
anticipated what the result would be. At the
outside
he might say that for a moment he hoped the
members
from the Rural Districts would not think he was
endeavouring to force the change down their
throats.
He would give his reasons for proposing the
change,
and it was for the members to vote. Members of
the
Board who live in Sligo had to attend at great
inconvenience to themselves, as the meetings fall
on
Saturday, the market day. Formerly the meetings
were
held on Tuesdays, and when they were changed, the
rural guardians anticipated at the time that they
would be able to do their market business and
attend
the meetings of the Board. That now had been
proved as
unworkable, as the members were not able to
transact
the business of the Board and their private
business.
Then the meetings of the District Council clash
with
the meetings of the Guardians, as they are also
held
on Saturdays. On more occasions than one,
although
there are sixty-eight members in the Sligo Union,
they
had to adjourn in consequence of a quorum not
turning
up. Taking these circumstances into consideration
he
thought they should give a fair trial to Tuesday
and
see how it would work. In his opinion they could
effect a savings of 200 pounds a year if this
change
was carried into effect (derisive laughter from
the
rural guardians). It was not a matter for
laughter, as
he could point out. The members rushed down to
the
room, on Saturday, and questions which should be
discussed calmly and coolly were got through
without
proper time for debate. If this was as it should
be,
and if matters were properly considered, it would
afford a big saving. Members were sent not to do
market business but to do the business of the
Board
honestly and faithfully, and they should attend
regularly.
Mr. Cryan - There are too many of us in it I
think
(laughter).
Mr. Jinks - As I said before, I don't want to
force it
down the throats of my country colleagues.
Mr. Cryan - It is not the slightest use.
Mr. Bree - Saturday is the day of meeting, and I
don't
see why you should change it (hear,hear). You
attempted to do so before, and your proper course
now
should be to hand in a notice of motion to change
the
original resolution on the books.
Mr. Jinks - In the days of the old Board the
meetings
were held on Tuesdays, and when the new Board
came
into office they were changed to Saturdays.
Mr. Cryan - We will take no dictation from the
old
Board.
Mr. Jinks continuing, said they had a chairman
presently who was second to none in Ireland, and
since
he became chairman of the Board he attended in a
manner which was worthy of the greatest praise.
It was
at great inconvenience to himself he attended,
and
therefore he thought the members of the Board
should
facilitate their worthy chairman in the
transaction of
his onerous duties. He had now laid his views
before
the members and all he would ask was to give a
fair
trial for twelve months to the change.
Mr. M. Brennan said it would be a great hardship
for
the guardians from the rural district to attend
on
Tuesdays. They would not agree to the change.
Mr. Cryan - All the talk in the world would not
change
it. The resolution is not seconded.
Mr. Scanlan said he had great pleasure in
seconding
the motion. He had little or no interest in the
matter, and it was absolutely no matter to him
whether
they were held on Tuesday or Saturday. As Mr.
Jinks
had said, there were a great many meetings held
on
Saturday. The County Infirmary, County Council
and
District Council had meetings on that day, and it
was
quite impossible for members who belong to all
those
bodies to attend to the different meetings. They
could
not rush from one place to another or transact
the
business in a proper way. Their duties were not
transacted in a way that would be wished, and he
thought there were very few members from the
rural
districts who knew anything about the management
of
the house. They should come down here and look
after
the business.
Mr. Henry Brennan was understood to say that from
the
proceedings of the recent inquiry it would be
better
for some of those guardians who were in the habit
of
coming to this (illegible) and inspecting the
interior
arrangements (illegible) visiting.
Mr. Jinks (excitedly) - I think Mr. Brennan
should be
asked to withdraw that observation.
Mr. Brennan - I will not withdraw. I can prove my
words.
The chairman said he had failed to catch what Mr.
Brennan said.
Mr. Jinks and Mr. Brennan had said it was better
for
the members who had been in the habit of visiting
the
house to cease from visiting.
Mr. Brennan - I said no such thing.
Mr. Jinks - You made use of words to that effect.
Mr. Waters here ventured to express the words
which
Mr. Brennan had made use of, and which were of an
entirely different meaning.
Mr. Waters, in supporting Mr. Jinks' notice of
motion,
said he was present when the meeting had to be
abandoned when the necessary number of guardians
constituting a quorum did not attend. On several
occasions messengers were dispatched from the
workhouse to his place on Saturday bringing him
to the
Board when there were only two members present.
Guardians could not transact their market
business and
the business of the Board on the same day, and it
would accommodate all if the meetings were held
on
Tuesday in future.
Mr. Gethins - to suit Holborn-st publicans
(laughter).

Mr. Cryan spoke strongly against the proposition,
and
said it was practically unseating the country
guardians if the change were carried out. Trains
that
united them on Saturday would not run on Tuesday,
and
altogether it would mean a big loss to the
members
from the rural districts if Mr. Jinks' motion
were
carried.
Mr. Jinks said Mr. Gethins had no right to make
use of
any remarks regarding Holborn Street publicans.
It was
bad taste to introduce such matters. He was
favoured
with little of his custom.
Mr. Waters - He should not make such a remark
about
Sligo publicans.
Mr. Gethins - Mr. Chairman, before I proceed with
the
amendment I assure you that I will not take any
notice
of Mr. Waters' ramblings (laughter).
Mr. Waters (majestically) - I spoke commonsense,
man
(loud laughter).
Mr. Gethins - I have great pleasure in moving
that Mr.
Jinks' motion be rejected.
Mr. Cryan seconded the proposition.
Mr. Gethins said the members from the rural
districts
had no means of reaching Sligo except on
Saturday.
Mr. Waters here interjected some remark, the only
word
that could be heard being "humbug".
Mr. Gethins - Don't be getting into a passion, my
beauty (laughter).
Mr. Waters (loftily) - I am not addressing you.
Mr. Gilgar said they all knew it would greatly
inconvenience the county guardians if the change
were
carried out. They all knew they had neither
tramways
nor railways to accommodate the members who lived
near
the Bridge of Bunduff and neighbourhood. The only
accommodation they had was post-cars which ran on
Saturdays. If the meetings were changed to
Tuesdays,
he thought they would have a good many
resignations. A
point had been raised about the meeting of the
District Council being also on Saturdays, and
therefore clashed with the meeting of the
guardians.
That could be met by holding the meeting of the
District Council at 11 o'clock and then the
members
from the rural districts could attend the
guardians'
meeting at 12 o'clock.
Mr. Bree - Poll the Board.
Chairman - I will not until I hear all sides.
Mr. Connolly said after the statement of feeling
displayed by the country guardians, it would be
idle
for Mr. Jinks (to) proceed with his notice of
motion.
It would be better for him to withdraw his
proposition, or else to adjourn it for five or
six
months. He had come prepared to vote for the
resolution, but from the difference of opinion he
saw,
it was better to withdraw the motion.
The chairman said the matter should be carefully
considered. Mr. Jinks motion was brought forward
with
his consent, and as the mover of the resolution
said
they did not want to rush the proposition down
the
throats of any of the members. The guardians from
the
rural districts could not possibly transact their
market business and then rush down and endeavour
to
get through the business of the Board. For thirty
years the meetings were held on Tuesday, and it
suited
all parties. A complaint had been made that the
guardians could not conveniently reach Sligo on
Tuesday, but as a matter of fact he saw them in
town
almost every day. An institution like that to
which
they had to attend, and which involved an
expenditure
of 12,000 pounds a year required careful
supervision,
and the questions which came before them should
be
well and carefully considered. Saturday on the
whole
was a bad day on which to hold the meeting, as he
was
frequently summoned to five meetings on that day
- the
District Council, County Council, County
Infirmary,
the Guardians and sometimes he attended the
meetings
of the Prison Board (laughter).
Mr. Jinks at this state said he would withdraw
his
proposition but Mr. Gethins insisted on the
matter
being decided by a poll.
A division was then taken, and the following
guardians
voted for Mr. Jinks' proposition - Messrs.
Connolly,
Jinks, Waters, Keighron, Ward, Collery, and
Scanlan
-7.
Against - Messrs. McGarraghy, Hargadon, Foley,
Gallagher, H. Brennan, Gilgar, Gethins, Logan
Dennison, Flanagan, Branley, Cryan, Bree, M.
Brennan,
O'Gara, Harte, McGowan -17.
Messrs. Kerr and Rooney did not vote.
The amendment was carried, Mr. Jinks proposition
to
change the meetings to Tuesday being declared
defeated
amidst applause from the guardians from the rural
districts.
The Board then adjourned.

 

Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2002 19:03:38 +0000 (GMT)
From: "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> | Block Address | Add to Address Book
Subject: [Cryan et al.] Roscommon Herald Articles No. 83
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Roscommon Herald Articles No. 83

Typed by Ellen Herron
Roscommon Herald

Roscommon Herald Saturday December 12, 1902
Threatening Language
Patrick Joseph Brett, Aughadrunderg, charged
Joseph
Cryan, same place with using threatening language
toward him on the 27th November.
Mr. Gorscadden, solicitor, Ballinamore, appeared
for
the complainant.
Complainant deposed that on the 27th November he
and
his brother were sorting potatoes. Defendant came
out
of his house and across to where they were
working,
and said he would stop a certain shore.
Complainant
made answer, " You, b_____, come out and fight
me,"
Witness said he wanted no fighting but he wanted
to
stop the threatening language. He said, "You
_____,
you are looking for law, but come out and fight
me."
He called his brother names also, and asked him
to
fight him. Complainant is afraid of defendant. He
had
no stick in his hand at this time. Witness had
never
any dispute with the defendant in his life. He
had no
stick in his hand.
Defendant - I want this case adjourned to this
day
fortnight. I did not get the summons until six
o'clock
on Saturday evening. I want to prepare a defense.
Mr. Gorscadden - He wants to make an application
for
an adjournment. This man is living altogether on
what
he earns day by day. He is away from work today
and
consequently he will get no wages for this day.
He is
working in Dromard at fairly good wages, and
every day
he is away he loses his wages. The man had lots
of
time since Saturday to employ a solicitor.
Defendant - I want to get a witness, too.
Chairman - I do not think there is sufficient
reason
for adjourning the case. We shall proceed with
the
case.
To defendant - Have you any questions to ask?
Defendant - I told you leave a shore in the
drain, and
when you got my back turned you filled my garden
with
water.
Mr. Gorscadden - You are not asking him anything.
Defendant - Did not I ask you down to look at it?
Complainant - That has nothing to do with the
threatening language; the local Government Board
could
deal with that.
Peter Bohan deposed that he was near the parties
on
this day. He saw the defendant come out of his
house
and charge both the complainant and his brother
to
fight him. He took off his coat and vest. He
heard him
calling abusive names also.
Defendant - Did I not walk up to you and ask you
to
come down and see what the case was about, and
did you
not tell me to go back again, and you would not
have
anything to do among us?
Chairman - The question is about the use of
threatening language.
Defendant - I deny it altogether.
Chairman - Let me speak - the complainant says he
is
afraid of the defendant, and he want him to be
bound
over to the peace.
Mr. Gorscadden - Yes, that's what we want.
Chairman - The bench have decided to bind the
defendant over to keep the peace for 12 months,
himself in 10 pounds and two sureties of 5 pounds
each.
Mr. Gorscadden - Thank you sir.
Defendant - I suppose I will get time to get
bail?
Chairman - Yes, till the court is over.

Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2002 19:05:34 +0000 (GMT)
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Subject: [Cryan et al.] Roscommon Herald Articles No. 84
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Roscommon Herald Articles No. 84

Typed by Ellen Herron

Roscommon Herald
13 December 1902
CRYAN v. KING-HARMAN
James Cryan sought to have a fair rent fixed on
his
holding at Brogher, on the King-Harmon estate;
area,
17 a, 3 r, .5p.; old rent, 5 pounds, poor law
valuation, 6 pounds.
Mr. Thompson appeared for the landlord in all the
King-Harman cases.
Andrew Cryan deposed he was son of the tenant
James,
who was unable to attend. His father was living
on the
place all his life. There was no turf on the
property,
and he had to go three miles for it. He made
fences
and open drains. He also built a new, slated
house and
out-offices.
To Mr. Thompson - This farm carries two cows and
two
calves. Four pounds was a fair rent for the
holding,
and he was six miles from any market town.
Mr. Doolan valued the farm for the landlord at 4
pounds, 19 shillings. He also allowed for some
drains
which were well made.

 

Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2002 19:06:32 +0000 (GMT)
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Subject: [Cryan et al.] Roscommon Herald Articles No. 85
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Roscommon Herald Articles No. 85

Typed by Ellen Herron
Roscommon Herald

Roscommon Herald Saturday

April 25, 1903

 

BOYLE PETTY SESSIONS
RUSHFIELD SANITARY PROSECUTION
These petty sessions were held on Wednesday
before Mr.
W. Jones, R.M., presiding; and Dr. Frazer, J.P.
SANITARY PROSECUTION
The Boyle No. 1 Rural District Council prosecuted
Mr.
James Cryan, road contractor, Ballinultha, for
keeping
his contract road in Ross Lane, Boyle, in an
unsanitary condition.
Mr. H. MacDermot (for Mr. P.C.P. MacDermot)
appeared
for the District Council, and Mr. W.J. Robinson
appeared for the defendant.
Mr. MacDermot said this case was up the last
court
day, and the defendant denied being contractor
for the
road.
Mr. Robinson - He did not deny it. You must give
proper proof of it.
Mr. MacDermot - The proof is now here - I have
the
bond.
Mr. Jones said they gave a conviction against the
defendant in a case where he allowed heaps of mud
to
accumulate on the street.
Mr. W. Odbert, Clerk to the District Council,

 produced
the bond certifying that Mr. Cryan was the
contractor.

Mr. Robinson - What is the nuisance complained
of?
Mr. Odbert - The medical officer's report is
there.
Dr. W. Hamilton deposed that on the 30th December
last
he reported to the Council that the street from
the
Crescent to Ross Lane was in a filthy state, as
manure
and other heaps of mud were on the street. He
recommended in his report that the manure be
removed,
and that the street be properly cleaned as soon
as
possible.
Mr. Robinson - By whose acts are those heaps of
mud on
the road?
Dr. Hamilton - I don't know. I should not think
the
contract put them there.
You say the people living in the houses in the
street
put them there? - Probably.
Mr. Jones - Why doesn't the contractor prosecute
so?
Mr. Robinson - Why doesn't the Sanitary Authority
prosecute? I am convinced that the law I
enunciated on
this day fortnight was correct. There is not a
shadow
of doubt about it.
Mr. Jones - A doubt there never is in your case.
(laughter)
Mr. Robinson - They should prosecute the proper
people. The road contractor is not liable in any
shape
or form.
Sub-Sanitary officer McDonagh proved the service
of
the notice demanding the abolition of the
nuisance, on
the contractor, which was handed up to the Bench.
Mr. Jones said the notice had not date, but he
supposed Mr. Robinson would not raise any point
on
that.
Mr. Robinson - I will raise every point I can.
This is
not a proper notice - "blank day of January".
Mr. Odberrt - In filling these notices, I leave
the
place blank for the sub-sanitary officer to put
in the
date when he serves them
Mr. Jones - I should not have said anything about
it,
but if they raise the point I will dismiss the
case.
Mr. Robinson - I will raise the point.
Mr. Jones - Is the place clean now?
Mr. McDonagh - It is not.
Mr. MacDermot - On what day did you serve this?
Mr. McDonagh - I cannot exactly say. I forgot to
fill
in the date.
Mr. Robinson - You are done. You have got another
know
out this time (laughter).
Mr. Jones - First the notice is not dated, and
secondly you do not know when you served it.
Mr. MacDermot - If your worship had not mentioned
it -

Mr. Robinson - I am very much obliged to him for
do so
(laughter).
Mr. MacDermot - Mr. Robinson will be raising
points
until some road contractor puts all the stuff
outside
his door (laughter).
Mr. Robinson asked for a dismiss with costs.
Mr. Odbert said on that day fortnight he brought
this
case before the County Surveyor, and told him
that the
defendant denied he was contractor. Mr. Mulvany
said
it was the duty of all contractors to remove the
refuse matter from the surface of the road.
Mr. Robinson - I am not prepared to accept Mr.
Mulvany's law on the matter at all. He read out a
great deal of bad law at the meeting of the
District
Council.
Mr. McDonagh now said that he served the notice
on the
17th February, the same day as others (produced),
which were dated
Mr. Jones - What has Cryan to say?
Mr. Robinson - Cryan will not say anything.
Mr. Cryan was about addressing the bench.
Mr. Robinson - Will you sit down out of that
(laughter).
Mr. Jones - We will adjourn it.
Mr. Robinson - You cannot do that. I ask for a
dismiss.
Mr. Jones said when they came to a court of
justice
they were bound to go according to the procedure
of
law, and if an official serves a copy of a
document,
and says he does not know on what date he served
it,
and that something was not dated, it was,
therefore
absolutely useless. They would dismiss the case
without prejudice.

 

 

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15 March 1902
Football
BOYLE v. CASTLEREA.

On Sunday last, the long-expected and eagerly
looked forward to match
between the Boyle "Freebooters" and the Castlerea
"Leos" took place in
Boyle. More than ordinary interest was taken in
the match, as the standing
of both teams in football circles is something
higher than is usually
attained by provincial teams. Expectations and
predictions that a close
contest would be the inevitable result, and if
the match did not end in a
draw, the victors would have a very narrow margin
to congratulate themselves
on, were certeainly justified, and rarely have we
witnessed such an
excellent exposition of the Association game as
was seen at Sunday' smatch.
A phenomenally large crowd watched the game, and
seemed to take the deepest
interest in its progress, and although their
inclinations were as could only
be expected, in favour of the home team, yet
their conduct was above
reproach, the victors being cheered as
enthusiastically as if the victory
fell to the lot of Boyle. The result of the game
ended in a "mishap" for
the "Freebooters," who were defeated by one
goal--as flukey a goal as was
ever scored. To a great extent the defeat, if it
is one, can be accounted
for owing to the absence of the captain (Dooley)
through illness, who
certainly has contributed in no small degree to
the victories secured by the
Boyle club during the season. The Castlerea team
are as strong an eleven as
played Boyle since the opening of the season, but
although they played with
vigour, yet, they lacked the dash, combination
and scientific play of the
"Freebooters," who on more than one occasion had
the goal of the "Leos" in
serious peril. play was evenly divided, if
anything the home team having
the best of it, the "Freebooters" practically
forcing the game from the
start. For the "Leos" McDermott, Flanagan and
McDonagh were prominent. We
refrain from singling out for special mention any
member of the
"Freebooters" as we could not very well do so,
each member of the team
played a magnificent game. Mr. S. O'Hara,
Castlerea, acted as referee, and
his decisions gave every satisfaction.

The Game.

Boyle won the choice of sides, and elected to
play with a considerable
breeze in their favour. For sometime there was
nothing worth recording,
each team seeming to test the other's strength.
Eventually Rice got away,
by a pass from Levingstone, but could not succeed
in passing the splendid
back line of Castlerea, although heroic efforts
were made by the Boyle
forwards to break through. Castlerea next
threatened, but the pressure was
relieved by Cryan and O'Keeffe. The play at this
stage of Conaton, D.
Cunningham, Cregg and A. O'Connor was especially
noticeable. In midfield
play was for a lengthy period confined, when
Gibbons, from a pass sent on by
M. Connor, made a dangerous swoop on the "Leos"
goal, which it took the back
line all their timeto repel. Castlerea now took
up the running, and made
things hum, and decidedly unpleasant for the
Boyle goal-keeper, who
cleverly, however, saved his post. In warding
off these attacks, Cregg, M.
Connor and Cryan took a leading part. At this
period there was a
considerable number of penalties given by the
referee, the fouls being
evenly divided between both teams, and the play
until the close of the first
half was fast and furious. Several gallant
attempts were made by the Boyle
forwards and when the whistle blew for half time
a dangerous attempt was
being made at the "Leos" goal. On resuming, the
Castlerea team set to work
with a will, their forwards carrying all before
them, and for sometime a
short scrimmage took place, resulting in
Castlerea placing a very easy goal
to their credit. After the cheers subsided,
considerable laughter was
created in the crowd by a Castlerea man yelling
at the top of his voice
"That was done by a '67 man." Until the close
the play can be summed up in
a few words. The "Leos" goal was continually in
danger, and it seemed on
innumerable occasions that the game would result
in a draw. However, the
Castlerea team made a dogged resistance, until
the whistle blew for full
time, leaving the score:--

Castlerea 1 goal.
Boyle Nil.

The following are the teams:--Boyle--Goal--F.
Cunningham. Full backs--J.
O'Keefe and John Cryan. Half backs--M. Connor,
R. Levingstone, B. Cregg
(captain "pro tem"). Forwards--D. Cunningham, A.
O'Connor, R. Rice, J.
Gibbons, and J. Conaton. Castlerea:--Goal--E.J.
McDermott. Full backs--H.
Lenehan and McDonagh. Half backs--M. Flanagan,
P. Hannelly, T. McDermott.
Forwards--Cregg, Nolan, McDonnell, Callaghan, and
Hawthorne.

The Boyle "Freebooters" travel to Sligo on St.
Patrick's Day to play the
return match with the Sligo Temperance Football
Club. The following is the
team selected to represent the club:--Goal--M.
Connor. Full backs--Cryan
and Levingstone. Half backs--J. O'Keefe, A.
O'Connor, and Cregg.
Forwards--Moraghan, Rice, D. Cunningham, Gibbons,
and J. Conaton.

 

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The Roscommon Herald, Boyle, Saturday, June 14,
1902

Shocking Accident Near Boyle.

Schoolmaster's Awful Death.

Falls from a Car And Receives Fatal Injuries.

Inquest and Verdict.

On last Saturday evening a terrible accident
occurred near Boyle, which
resulted in the death of a schoolmaster named
John Naylor. It appears the
deceased came into Boyle on that day, and in the
afternoon was returning
home by car, and when some short distance outside
the town, in some
unaccountable manner, fell from the car, and
coming heavily on his head,
received shocking injuries. Medical aid was
promptly summoned, and the
injured man was conveyed in an unconscious
condition to Boyle workhouse
infirmary. No hopes were entertained for his
recovery, and he died on
Tuesday morning without having recovered
consciousness. Deceased, who was a
native of Longford, was teacher of Errona school,
and although only this
locality for a short time, was exceedingly
popular with all who knew him.
He came from Wicklow to Errona. The greatest
sympathy is expressed with his
bereaved wife and family in their awful
affliction.
On Wednesday an inquest was held in the
Board-room of the Workhouse by
Mr. J.J. Burke, J.P., Coroner, touching his
death.
The following gentlemen were sworn on the
jury--Messrs. James Lindsay,
foreman; Mchl. Drury, Michael Cunningham, Michael
F. Tomkins, John Cryan,
John Nolan, Matthew M'Manus, Robert Johnston,
Patrick M'Nally, Joseph Dowd,
John Leyland, James Ritchie, John Callaghan,
Daniel Moore.
After being sworn the jury retired to view
the body.
Mr. Henry Naylor identified the body as that
of his brother, James
Naylor, whom he last saw alive four years ago.
Mr. Jarvis deposed he remembered Saturday
last, and at about twenty
minutes to two on that date he met deceased in
Mr. Cryan's. Deceased asked
him to have a drink, but he refused. Deceased
then called him and asked him
for a seat on the car and he gave it to him.
They went upstairs and had a
drink with Mr. Cryan. They came down again and
deceased asked him to have a
drink in the hotel, and he said "No." He
afterwards went, and they had a
drink, and after going out again, they went on
the car for home. He also
had Miss White on the car, but she was not on it
when he fell off. They met
the garden cart coming up, and Miss White got off
the car and went back in
the cart. In the meantime the deceased went
asleep and fell off the car,
and after deceased fell from the car, he
(witness) got a boy to hold the
pony until he would send for Dr. White, who came
on the scene about twenty
minutes after it happened. He (witness) asked
was it better to send
deceased to the hospital or to his own home, and
Dr. White suggested that he
be sent to the infirmary, where care would be
taken of him.
Mr. Lindsay (foreman)--Was there any stand
or turning?
Witness--No, sir; the car was not going on
at what we call "full shot."
Mr. Lindsay--Did you remark him in any way
uncontrollable?
Witness--The man was rather sleepy, and I
noticed him falling off, and
made an effort to grasp him, but all to no
purpose. It was about 40 yards
from Rev. Mr. Watson's. On a side car I had no
power, and it never entered
my mind that the man would have lost his seat on
the car. If so I would
have used precautions.
Mr. Cunningham--He fell off his side, I
suppose?
Witness--There was no possibility of saving
him. Of course had I
thought that the man would not have been safe on
the car, I would have tied
him on it. I don't think he was so bad when I
took him on as when he lost
control of himself.
Coroner--Where did this happen?
Head Constable Gallagher--About a mile and a
half outside the town, at
Rev. Mr. Watson's.
Mr. Cunningham--I think this is quite
sufficient.
Miss Margaret White deposed--I remember
Saturday evening. I was on the
car with Mr. Jarvis and the deceased. Nothing
occured during my being on
the car. I was coming back again and didn't see
the deceased man falling
off the car.
Mr. Cunningham--Miss White can throw no
light on the subject.
Mr. Lindsay (foreman)--There is no occasion
to ask questions.
Head Constable--We have another witness
here.
Dr. White deposed--I saw deceased
immediately after the accident. I
found he was suffering from a bad fracture at the
base of the skull. I
recommended him to be brought to the hospital,
and he died on yesterday
morning, not having recovered consciousness.
Mr. Lindsay (foreman)--He was properly
attended to here by the doctor.
Coroner--You have been occupied here to find
a verdict by what means
John Naylor came by his death. In the first
place you will have very little
difficulty in finding that the death took place
in this Union hospital
yesterday. The medical evidence says it was
brought on by a fall off the
car on Saturday last in Drum, near Boyle. I
don't want to occupy your time
at very great length. You have to discharge your
duty.
Mr. Lindsay--This was accidentally.
Mr. Cunningham--I would like to add that
there is no blame attached to
anybody.
The jury returned the following
verdict:--"That the said John Naylor's
death was caused by fracture of the base of the
skull, brought on by his
having accidentally fallen off a car on the road
in Drum on Saturday last,
from the effects of which he lingered and died in
the Boyle Union hospital,
in the County of Roscommon, on the 18th day of
June, 1902, and we hereby
believe there is no blame attached to anybody."
The following riders were added--"That we,
the jury, hereby convey to
Mrs. Naylor and her family our deep sympathy on
the death of her husband
from the accident which caused his death." "And
that we recommend the case
of the widow and orphans to the consideration of
the Commissioners of
National Education."
Mr. Henry Naylor--I very sincerely thank you
for your kindness.
Coroner--It is a very sad accident, indeed.
Mr. Lindsay (foreman)--Indeed it is a very
sad affair, which I regret
very much.
Coroner--You have all agreed that this man's
death was caused by a fall
off the car?
The jury agreed.
Coroner--You are discharged now, gentlemen,
and I am very thankful to
you for your attendance.
The proceedings then terminated.

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From: THE ROSCOMMON HERALD, BOYLE

SATURDAY, MAY 9, 1903

Dawnboy Union (Co. Cavan)
******
APPLICATION FOR SURGICAL APPLIANCES REFUSED.
******
Modical and Surgical
Appliances.

Dr. Crean, Newtowngore, sent in a
requisition for
medical and surgical appliances.
Clerk---All new tradesmen require new tools.
Mr. Shannon---Has he applied already for
appliances?
Clerk---Yes.
Mr. Shannon---You had a fair idea that there
was
a sufficient supply of appliances there?
Clerk---Oh, that is not for me. There was a
lot
of very old appliances there.
Mr. Shannon---Dr. McGovern, while he was
there,
got all the appliances that were necessary ,and
I think it is
really
too bad when one doctor leaves a dispensary for
the
next doctor to
requisition
appliances
so soon. Dr. Crean should furnish the Board with
a
list of all the
appliances there.
I
certainly object to allowing him appliances until
we
get a full account
of what was there
when
Dr. McGovern left.
Clerk---I took an inventory of what was
there
when Dr. McGovern left, and when Dr. Crean came
to the
place
I went there, but he was
absent.
Mr. Shannon---Had he any knowledge of your
going
there?
Clerk---I told him the day before.
Mr. Shannon---A dispensary doctor has no
right to
be absent from his dispensary.
Clerk---He was absent when I went there, and
I
had no alternative, but to turn back.
A Guardian---He might be away on a call.
Mr. Shannon---If he was on a call, Mr.
McGovern
would be informed of it.
Mr. Shannon---I object to any appliances
being
given until we see the list of appliances that
were
there in Dr. McGovern's time.
Mr. Lynch---I quite agree with you, Mr.
Shannon.
Clerk---Medical appliances are a different
thing
from surgical appliances altogether. The former
are
frequently required, while the latter last for a
long
time.
Dr. Crean's application was refused.

 

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Thanks to Rosalie and friend.

From: THE ROSCOMMON HERALD, BOYLE,


Saturday August 8, 1903


A Cregane Dispute.

Martin Cryan, Cregane, charged Michael Coen,
of
same locality, with trespass of cattle on various
dates. Mr. E. J. M'Morrow, solicitor, Boyle,
appeared
for Cryan, and Mr. Dermont MacDermot for Coen.
From the evidence it appeared that a river
divided the holdings of the litigants, and in
consequence of this there was trespass on more
occasions than were desirable.
After looking at the Land Commission map,
Mr.
Holmes said Coen was probably in the right.
Mr. M'Morrow said there was a similar case
tried
at the Boyle Quarter Sessions some years ago,
where a
Mr. Judge,
who had a farm on one side of the Boyle river,
sued
Captain Robertson, who was then the estate agent
for
the trespass
of cattle. The magistrates dismissed the case on
the
grounds that Mr. Judge had no fence on his side
of the
river. There
was a process brought, and the chairman of
Quarter
Sessions, with a similar result, but the Judge of
As__ize reversed the decree.
Mr. Holmes adjourned the case, in the hope
that a
settlement would be arrived at.
The court then adjourned.

 

 

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From: THE ROSCOMMON HERALD, BOYLE


Saturday September 5,1903

BALLAGHADERREEN PETTY
SESSIONS (CO. MAYO).
******
A PECULIAR MEARING FENCE.
******
"WANTS TO KEEP HIS CATTLE OUT."
******
These petty sessions were held on Tuesday before
Mr.
W. Holmes, R.M._______W. Clark, J.P.

CONT. PAGE 37

River as Moaring.
Martin Cryan of Creggane, sued Michael
Coleman,
of the same place, for damages to a boundary
fence.
Mr. E. J. M_Morrow appeared for the
plaintiff,
and Mr. H. MacDermot, LL.B., was for the
defendant.
Mr. M'Morrow said the case was adjourned
from the
last court to ascertain the position of a
boundary
fence.
The litigants held land on the opposite sides of
a
stream. Coleman's case was that he, was entitled
to
the
use of the whole of the stream, and that his
client
had no right to it. He (Mr. M'Morrow) applied to
have
the
case adjourned to give an opportunity to his
client of
producing a map, and he wrote to the Registrar of
Titles
for a certified copy of the map, from which their
worships would see that the red line on the map
runs
with the
stream, showing distinctly that if the stream
belonged
to Coleman, as he alleges, it would not be in
that
position.
Mr. Holmes---This is merely a case of
trespass.
Mr. M'Morrow explained that it was set up as
a
defense at the last court that his client would
not
allow
a fence to be erected, which would have the
effect of
shutting out his client's cattle from the stream.
Mr. Holmes said they would have to refer the
case
to the County Court Judge, as there was a
question of
title, involved.
Cryan deposed that the stream or river runs
between John Coleman's land and his own.
He found five cattle belonging to Coleman on his
land
on the 23rd and 26th of July. He demanded
trespass in
the ordinary way.
Cross-examined by Mr. MacDermot----Are you
disputing about where the fence is to be?
---Yes.
Mr. Holmes---Have you any fence on your land
to
prevent cattle coming in? ---We have a fence
made
from the road down until it meets the red line on
the
map.
I suppose cattle came across the stream?
---Yes.
Is there any thing on your land to prevent them
coming in? ---No.
Mr. Holmes--- Well, I will give you no
trespass.
Mr. M'Morrow said they had summoned several
witnesses,
and he expected before they would decide the
case
they would hear them.
Mr. Holmes said he would give no trespass
for
cattle trespassing on plaintiff's land, as he had
nothing to prevent them. Mr. M'Morrow said in
cases
like this the usual thing is for the people
concerned
to make half the fence.
Mr. MacDermot said the point was purely a
question of title, which he had no doubt his
client
could clearly establish.
Mr. Holmes---It is merely a fight about the
ownership of a stream. Mr. MacDermot---Yes.
Mr. M'Morrow said his client had witnesses
who
hold land adjoining that half the stream belongs
to
both parties.
Mr. Holmes said the court had not the
smallest
power to decide or even consider who the stream
belongs to.
Mr. M'Morrow asked the bench if they would,
hold,
irrespective of that question; if Coleman was
responsible for the trespass of his cattle on his
client's land.
Mr. Holmes said he would not. Mr. MacDermot
asked how could they if there was no fence to
prevent
the cattle trespassing?
Mr. Holmes said they would mark the case "no
jurisdiction," as a question of title was
involved,
which could be fought out at Quarter Sessions.
Mr.
M'Morrow---We will have to go to a higher court,
Mr.
Cryan.

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Letters to the Editor

 

Tom Collins' Christmas Wish

 

Dear Comrade,
Joseph also had a coat of many colours and:
Was thrown into the pit by his jealous Brothers!
Unfortunately it that time of the year again, a
period
of reflection as to not only our success, that is
if
any working class Australian could claim even one
skerrick of this rare commodity, but also our
mistakes. Sadly, some of those that claim to be
the
Vanguard of the downtrodden are in most
circumstances
the oppressors. Oppressors only intent on
maintaining
the status quo , because that position is
-sitting
comfortably in their own warm, soft and excrement
filled Snugglers , and they are enmeshed in their
own
fears of loss, be it status or financial.
We have lost trust in our elected
representatives, and
with a total reversal of stance in political
parties,
the A.L.P., has become the equivalent of
hereditary
peerage, with safe seats being passed from father
to
son, through power play within the Unions and
factions, thereby sowing these previous fallow
fertile
fields with the seeds of discontent and dissent.
This
is only possible through cronyism and nepotism in
the
branch structure, with recruitment energies being
focussed on personal vendettas. It is possible
that
this structure could accomplish something, if
these
relatives, cronies, hangers on , drones and
bludgers
were of any consequence, or even if they were a
little
better than mediocre. Alas! With the case with
the
A.L.P., and the Trade Unions, only the hyena like
pack
animals, are permitted to thrive in an
environment of
rotting Offal, Filth and corruption ,with some
branch
meetings depicted, as with eerie accuracy in the
1757
Hogarth print "Canvassing for Votes" , where the
rich
bought votes in the rotten Boroughs.
Free speech is stymied within not only the Trade
Unions, but the A.L.P., and members are
continually
disenfranchised, thereby demeaning the value of
membership.
Both the A.L.P., and Trade Unions have been
bereft of
real leadership for many years, and as a
consequence;
to maintain self respect members distance
themselves -
firstly from the behaviour of the organisation
and as
this corrupt behaviour becomes entrenched, they
feel
the necessity to cut any ties from not only the
organisation, but also some of their own, deep
seated
philosophies and beliefs. If only because these
philosophies have been corrupted by self seeking
incompetents, and to continue to adhere to these
infected beliefs is a reflection on the
individual.
The continued White Washing of these Socialist
sepulchres , by the power brokers , is the
epitome of
an exercise in futility and this reluctance to
leave
the past behind ,has been recognised through the
ages
by many contemporary thinkers of their time ,
including :-
Jesus, who said in Luke 9:60:-
"Leave the dead to bury the dead; "
"But as for you, go and proclaim the Kingdom of
God."
It was Seneca the Roman intellectual 4BC-65AD.
Who
said:-
"The fates lead him who will - him who won't they
drag."
Is our uncorrupted secular message not worth
leaving
the dead behind for, or do we also wish to be
dragged
into this pit of predatory betrayal?
There can be no doubt that some organizations are
beyond restructure, and must either be dismantled
or
be permitted to wither on the vine, this is
validated
by the continued and unabated loss of life blood
, the
membership, from these Unions who are incapable
of
contemporary relevance. The imitation of large
corporations by these unions in their continued
use of
this worthless cosmetic surgery, is akin to
treating a
malignant cancer with a Bex, a nice cup of tea,
and a
lie down in a dark room
The Howard Government is on a roll, and the grass
roots of the A.L.P. have been alienated by the
political correctness of those that assume,
behaviours
totally alien to the Australian ethos, whereas
the
Liberals are now the working class heroes.
Where can one find a commonality with a political
candidate, who has had absolutely no experience
with
the difficult challenges most Australians need to
confront every day of their lives.
Is it only coincidental that Bob Hawke be once
again
embraced by the party , almost 10 years to the
day
after being ousted from the leadership by the
worlds
greatest Treasurer ? None the less, the
appointment of
Hawke and Wran, with both being yesterdays' men;
to
inquire into the recent election drubbing will
also be
a waste of resources, if this denial of the
emperors'
(plural) nakedness continues unabated without
rebuttal.
All success is based on role models, and New
Labour
United Kingdom style was only a success because
it
once again re-adjusted it policies to reflect the
views of the greater number, to the extent of
excluding those belligerent Unions who were
intent on
the destruction of not only the country but the
whole
fabric of society .The A.L.P., factions must
accept
this, and the reality that, populism is the very
quintessence of politics. For the A.L.P., to
pander to
special interest groups, left wing loonies, and
Café
latte socialists who are more aligned with Greens
or
Democrats is the foolish path of self immolation
and
as was shown at the last election, political
irrelevance.
While these individuals may appear to be a large
minority, it is usually only their high noise
factor
in the branch structure, and because of this and
their
idleness in other aspects of their parasitical
lives,
that creates this illusion. The reality of this
truth
was manifested at the last election.
Democracy is government by the greater number,
and
this is the system we have chosen to be governed
by.
The resentments shown by the electorate toward
the
A.L.P., with their attempts at social engineering
,also indicate the truths of alienation toward
Chardonnay Socialism which has also been
rejected,
particularly by the working class , recent
migrants
,their families, and people who have been caught
in
the abyss of this culture of change , and
destroyed ,
not by diversity but division, and those who have
watched their jobs being sent overseas by
consecutive
Labour Governments, in consensus with the Trade
Unions.
But all is not lost, there are still a few Union
Leaders prepared to defend their members, one
being
the AMWU, boss Doug Cameron, but his futile
efforts,
obviously indicate punishment for misdemeanours
in a
previous life, as he, like, Sisyphus and the Rock
of
Hades.....appears to be condemned to an eternity
of
rolling the rock up the hill, knowing full well
that
when it reaches the top it will roll back down
again.
Perhaps in this previous life, Oor Dougie as a
Cameronian , a clan who are not renowned for
their
mercy, behaved badly toward that Irish Mercenary
Simon
O Croidheain (Anglicised Crean) who fought with
the
remnants of Viscount Dundee's' army ,at the
Battle of
Dunkeld in 1689 , by impaling him on a halbert
(Halberd)?
As for our own inimitable Simon and his cross of
political sin, he can surely take solace in the
fact,
that it was another Simon who carried the cross
for
Jesus to his crucifixion. Let's hope that this is
not
the same journey on which our Simon intends to
carry
the Australian Labor Party.

 

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October 18 1902
OBITUARY
-----------------------
DEATH AND FUNERAL OF MR. MICHAEL CRYAN, BALLYMOTE
(CO.
SLIGO).

It is with regret we record the rather sudden
death of Mr. Michael Cryan, which took place at
his
residence, Ballymote, on the 3rd inst. The
deceased
was in failing health for some months past, but
it was
only on Thursday night, 2nd inst., he showed any
signs
of collapse, and he quietly passed away on Friday
morning at 2 o'clock, during which period he
received
all the consolations of the Holy Catholic Church,
of
which he was a devout member, as well as the kind
attentions of a loving wife and affectionate
children.
Deceased was one of the best known and most
highly
respected gentlemen in the neighbourhood and his
sad
end occasioned the keenest regret amongst all his
acquaintances. He had reached the age of 54
years, and
leaves a wife and family of ten to mourn his
loss, and
though their sorrow must be bitter, still it
makes it
somewhat easier borne to know that they have the
cordial sympathy of every person who in life had
the
pleasure and privilege of the acquaintance of the
deceased. On Saturday the remains were interred
in the
family burial ground in the old Abbey, Ballymote,
and
the cortege that followed the bier was, without
exception, the largest and most respectable ever
witnessed in the locality. The chief mourners
were -
Mrs. M. Cryan (wife), P., J., M.J., B.T., and J.
Cryan
(sons), M., M.E., and A.E. Cryan (daughters), Mr.
P.
Cryan, Newtownforbes, and Mr. B. Cryan,
Ballinamore
(brothers); Mr. P. Kerins, Ballymote (uncle); Mr.
J.
Dennedy (nephew); M. Dennedy, Dublin (niece); J.
Kerins, J. Davey, A. Flynn, J. Benson, J.
Flanagan, P.
Davey, A. Walsh, P. Cosgrove, B.Flynn (cousins).
Rev.
Canon Loftus officiated at the grave. - R.I.P.

 

 

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Roscommon Herald Articles No. 92

Thanks to Maureen McCourt Nantista

January 18 1902
Boyle Race Committee
-------------------
AN APPEAL TO THE TOWN
-------------------
A meeting of the Boyle Race Committee was
held in
the Royal Hotel, Boyle, on Saturday evening. Mr.
E. S.
Robinson, Master of the Rockingham Harriers,
presided.
The others present were: - Mr. J. McDrury, J.P.;
Mr.
P. O. Connor, Co.C.; Mr. J. Cox, Mr. J. Cryan.
The
chairman read correspondence from Mr. Brindly,
Dublin,
stating that although the 12th May had been
announced
as the date for the meeting, he would have to
bring
the matter before the stewards, as Kilbeggan had
also
secured that day previously. He also stated that
the
Inspector complained of the fences.
The chairman said if it was a question
between the
two meetings Kilbeggan would have to go down.
Mr. Cox said the 12th did not clash with any
other
fixture.
Mr. McDrury said they had got their date, and
should stick to it. If there were any of the
meetings
to be killed it should be Kilbeggan (laughter).
The chairman said if they were to make the
meeting
a financial success they should have it on some
day to
suit the people of Boyle.
Mr. Cryan - On a Tuesday.
The chairman said no doubt every gentleman
there
worked hard for the success of the races last
year,
and as for himself, he never worked as hard, even
in
his own interests. He thought it should be put to
the
people of Boyle whether they want a race meeting
or
not. If they want a race meeting they will have
to put
their hands in their pockets much better than
last
year. He would suggest that some of them go
around -
he would not take money from them at present -
and ask
them what they are going to give.
Mr. McDrury said there was nothing else for
them
to do, and if they found the people were backward
in
supporting it all they could do was let it drop.
If
they get a reasonable show from the townspeople
they
would do all they could.
Mr. Cryan - Strokestown was better supported
than
us. They got £11 here.
Mr. McDrury - And the first night out we only
got
£11.
Mr. O'Connor - A go-ahead town with our
electric
light should not be put down by Strokestown.
Mr. McDrury - They beat us by a few "strokes"
(laughter).
It was then decided that they call on the
people
on Tuesday to ascertain how they will support the
meeting as its taking place will depend on the
financial support guaranteed.

 

 

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Roscommon Herald Articles No. 93

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10 August 1901
BOYLE UNION
_____________

At the meeting on Saturday, Mr. Michael Gray
presided. The others present were: Messrs. J.
Lindsay,
John Cryan, J.P., T. Kelly, O. Queenan

Keadue Pump
The following was read.

"Stonepark,
Keadue

"2nd
August, 1901
"Mr. Chairman and gentlemen - I have been
asked by
several of the inhabitants of Keadue to report
upon
the condition of the pump, and to request the
Board to
put it in proper repair as soon as possible. This
is
necessary as the inhabitants have to draw water a
quarter of a mile, not only for domestic
purposes, but
also for the cattle which creates an enormous
amount
of labour on them. I also beg to state that the
pump
is in this condition for the last month. - I am
yours
sincerely,
"PATRICK
TANSEY
(D.C.)"
Mr. Lindsay there was a letter before the
Board
from a plumber the last day, who lives in
Carrick-on-Shannon, proposing to put the pump in
repair. The plumber was passing through Keadue
when
some Councillor drew his attention to it. He is a
Mr.
Dunne, a very good man, and his price was very
moderate. If the Board had the power to appoint
him,
they should do so. He (Mr. Lindsay) inquired if
it
were a district charge.
The master said it was, and also read a
tender
from the man referred to by Mr. Lindsay, in which
he
stated he would put the pump in repair for the
sum of
£3, and supply all the necessary material, and
also
keep it in repair afterwards for any responsible
length of time.
Mr. Lindsay - He is willing to keep it in
repair
for twelve months or so afterwards.
The master did not think the man would keep
it in
repair for such a length of time without payment.
Chairman - Were there any tenders called for?
Mr. Lindsay - No, but the pump is out of
order,
and several complaints were made about it.
Mr. Cryan - I don't think it would be
advisable to
appoint anyone at the present time, as you have a
very
small Board.
The chairman said if there was notice of
motion
given, it would be fortnight before they could
get
tenders.
Mr. Queenan - The whole country is full of
water
now.
Mr. Lindsay asked what sum they could allow
without advertising.
The master said £2.
Mr. Lindsay - Well offer him £2 to repair it.
Chairman - Of course, it is a very dry
summer, and
people are very badly off for water.
Master- If Mr. Dunne accepts £2 and does it
to the
satisfaction of a committee of the two
councillors, I
think it is very fair.
Mr. Cryan - But perhaps 5s would put the pump
in
order. There may be only a small thing wrong with
it.
Chairman - Is it legal to do this today?
Mr. Cryan - Refer it to a future Board.
The master said he thought it was too serious
to
cause any delay.
Mr. Lindsay - Is there any person taking care
of
the pump?
Master - No.
Mr. Lindsay - I propose you allow him the sum
of 2
to put the pump in repair, and that he keep it in
order for six months.
Master - Properly speaking, this is District
Council business.
Mr. Cryan - Well refer it to the District
Council.
It does not belong to this Board at all.
Chairman - We would not like to see them
without
water, but at the same time, we have no power to
deal
with it today.
The further consideration of the matter was
adjourned.

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Roscommon Herald Articles No. 94

Thanks to Maureen McCourt Nantista

10 August 1901
BOYLE CREAMERY
_____________

A meeting of the Boyle Creamery Society was
held
on Wednesday, Mr. E. S. Robinson presided, and
the
others present were - Messrs. J. M'Williams, A.
McElroy, J. Bruen, B. Spellman, J. Anderson, J.
Cryan,
J.P., E. Goldrick, T. Gallagher, A. Healy, P.
M'Donagh, J. Walsh, T. M'Elligott.
Mr. J. Quinn, secretary, and Mr. T. Gleeson,
manager, were also present.
Carrowcrory Auxiliary
Mr. Cryan said at their last meeting it was
decided that the Carrowcrory Committee come
before
them in proper form.
Mr. Cryan then produced the minutes of the
last
meeting of the Carrowcrory Provisional Committee,
from
which it appeared that the meeting was held on
Monday,
5th August. Mr. Cryan, J.P., presided and there
was a
large attendance of the Committee. After the
accounts
were audited and found satisfactory, it was
decided to
appoint a representative on the Boyle Society
from
each townland. It was proposed by Mr. Cryan, and
seconded by Mr. P. Gormely, that Mr. D. Crofton,
C.C.,
be appointed and it was passed unanimously. The
following were also appointed - Mr. Gormely, who
was
proposed by Mr. Killoran and seconded by Mr.
M'Gowan;
Mr. Cryan who was proposed by Mr. P. Duignan and
seconded by Mr. Lydon; Mr. P. Horan, who was
proposed
by Mr. M'Gowan and seconded by Mr. Gray, D.C.,
and Mr.
O. Breheny, who was proposed by Mr. Lydon and
seconded
by Mr. P. Breheny.
Mr. Cryan said that he was informed by the
Manager
(Mr. Gleeson) that they were only entitled to
three
representatives. He asked if there was anything
in the
rules to debar them.
Mr. Gleeson said that according to the rules
laid
down by the Irish Agricultural Organization
Society,
they were only entitled to three representatives.
Mr. Cryan - Major Murphy told me we would be
entitled to have one from each townland.
Mr. M'Donagh said that they could be allowed
one
for each townland on the Provisional Committee,
but
not on the Central.
Mr. Cryan - We have two from each townland on
the
Provisional Committee.
Mr. M'Goldrick said he had great pleasure in
proposing that Messrs. D. Crofton, Patrick
Gormely and
John Cryan be co-opted on the Central Committee
as
representatives of the Carrowcrory auxiliary.
Mr. M'Williams seconded the proposition, and
it
was passed unanimously.
This was all the business before the meeting.

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December 14 1901

Terrific Blaze in Boyle.
-------------------
BIG PREMISES GUTTED.
------------------------
THE MAIN STREET THREATENED.
------------------------
FURNITURE BROUGHT TO THE STREET.
-------------------------
GREAT LOSS OF PROPERTY.
-------------------------
DAMAGES ESTIMATED AT OVER £4,000.
One of the most disastrous conflagrations
ever
witnessed in Boyle took place at an early hour on
last
Sunday morning, when the extensive business
establishment of Mr. W. J. Sloan, one of the
leading
merchants in these parts, was completely gutted
and
destroyed. Mr. Sloan, who carries on a large
grocery,
hardware, etc., business, held two houses in
Main-st.
[sic], and it was in the principal one of these
that
the fire occurred. From the information which can
be
gleaned in connection with the regrettable
occurrence,
it appears the first person to notice the
outbreak was
Mrs. Sloan, who found the odour of the fire in
her
bed-room at about three o'clock in the morning.
She,
along with the rest of the family, resided in the
house adjoining the business premises, which is
practically part and parcel of the business
establishment, and on feeling the smoke promptly
went
downstairs, fearing that something serious had
occurred. On proceeding to the shop she found it
filled with large volumes of smoke, and at once
concluded the place was on fire. With the most
commendable promptitude she gave the alarm, and
inside
the space of a very short time all the family
were got
out on to the street. But this was not got
through
without experiencing some difficulty, for suffice
it
to say that some narrow escapes were witnessed
during
this trying period. By this time the cry "fire"
rang
out through the town, and a large crowd hurried
to the
scene of the conflagration. The fire engine from
the
military barracks was called into requisition,
and the
expedite manner in which it arrived certainly
reflected the greatest credit on the military,
especially those in command, Color Sergeants
M'Cawley
and Johnston, both of whom got it under weigh
[sic]
with marvelous dexterity and quickness. Of the
others,
the first to arrive was Mr. Tully, M.P., who took
charge of the civilians, and had two lines drawn
up
from the river, who fetched buckets of water. The
morning being extremely dark, Mr. G. W. Tully,
D.C.,
hastened to Mr. Hugh Stewart's electric lighting
depot
and awakened the staff, with the fortunate result
that
the street lamps were turned on immediately, and
greater facilities offered to those engaged in
the
labourious working of fighting the flames. A
great
number of people were now on the scene, all the
available military and police being called out,
the
latter under the command of District Commander T.
L.
M'Clelland, whilst a large number of civilians
anxious
to give every assistance were also present.
Attention
was first directed to the office of Mr. Sloan's
shop
where it is supposed the fire originated, and
from
which position emanated the greatest signals of
danger. Colour-Sergeant M'Cawley had possession
of the
hose, which he used in blinding, sickening
atmosphere,
but despite all the efforts of himself and the
police,
military, and civilians, the flames had got the
upper
hand, and forged ahead from the back to the front
of
the premises. Seeing the futility of putting an
end to
the flame at the rere [sic] of the shop, the
apparatus
was removed to the front, where gallant attempts
were
made to check its spread, but all proved
fruitless. In
these attempts several daring deeds were
performed, in
which Mr. Sloan, junr., played no unimportant
part in
trying to save the property. The fire in the shop
was
assuming such alarming dimensions that it was now
desirable to look to the safety of the
surrounding
buildings. Many willing hands were found here at
work,
those engaged being Messrs. G.W. Tully, W. Sloan,
junior, T. Armstrong, H. McDonald, H. Lewis, J.
O'Keefe, and Private Meenan, etc., etc. but
despite
their gallant efforts very little was saved.
Several
had narrow escapes, one of the number, T.
Armstrong,
being compelled to jump from the second floor on
to
the street, as the roof came in with a deafening
crash. Several others received severe scorches,
and
some were badly burned about the hands. The men
on the
roof were, however, even in a more perilous
position,
and the number of volunteers to mount the large
building, which is a considerable height, was
highly
praiseworthy. Two long ladders were procured from
the
workhouse and military barracks, and the roof
quickly
mounted by Mr. W. Conlon, Mr. T. M'Grath, Mr.
Smith,
Belfast, Mr. A. Hancock, London, Mr. R. Stewart,
Mr.
S. Black, and others. W. Conlon and T. M'Grath,
with
the assistance of others, and Henry Armstrong,
succeeded in cutting the slates connecting it
with the
adjoining building, which is the property of Mr.
Tully, M.P., and which was also severely damaged
as a
result of the fire. The fire by this time was
spreading with great rapidity, and some of the
inhabitants of Main-st.[sic] got their furniture
and
effects on to the street in anticipation of the
worst
taking place. A very plucky action was performed
at
the back of the premises, which should not go
unnoticed. The shop was connected with a pipe
from the
oil store, and the necessity of cutting off this
supply was apparent to everyone. Mr. S. Black and
several others mounted the roof, and after great
difficulty, and at much personal risk, succeeded
in
severing the connection with the oil shed and
shop. In
their endeavours to master the hard task, one of
the
number, H. White fell from the roof, but beyond a
bad
shaking was nothing the worse of the occurrence.
Had
this severance not been effectively done, the
flames
would have been even more voluminous than they
were,
although by the time they could have been seen
for
several miles around the town. The shop was a
mass of
flames, but, fortunately, the fire was being kept
confined more or less. Of the members of the
constabulary, Constable Weir, was most prominent,
and
worked for hours with the hose with the strength
of an
Hercules. He was ably assisted by Sergeants
Sawyers
and Diver, and Constables Wynne, Canon, Foley and
Gibbons. The heat was so oppressive that a person
could not go within an not inconsiderable
distance of
the fire, and so intense that the windows on the
opposite side of the street were cracked, and the
paint on the doors raised in large blisters.
After
several hours of heavy work the flames were got
under
control, but not until damages estimated at about
£4,000 had been done. This loss, though
considerable,
would have been much more had it not been for the
herculean efforts of civilians, police, and
military,
and their meritorious work at the pumping
stations and
fire. All the stock had been demolished, while
the
premises presently are a complete wreck. The fire
continued to smolder until Tuesday night.
Although the
premises have been insured, still the greatest
sympathy is expressed with Mr. Sloan in the
terrible
blow which has fallen upon him. On Sunday evening
a
blaze again started in the body of the wrecked
shop,
but the fire engine turned out under Quarter
Master
Sergeant Barnes, Sergeant Major Staunton and
Sergt.
Shera, and was promptly extinguished. The
following,
in addition to those mentioned above, assisted at
the
work of quenching the fire - Sergeant Hadlock,
Corporal Cryan, Privates Cryan, Bruen, Regan, and
Byrne; Messrs. G. Kirkpatrick, Malachy Connolly,
G.
Taylor, J. Gillespie, J. Cahill, John Sheerin, R.
Rice, P. Griffin, R. Flaherty, John Egan, J.
Faulds,
T. Connor, P. Brennan, J. Campbell, E. Keaveny,
E.
Cunningham, etc., etc.
Mr. Sloan has decided to carry on his grocery
and
hardware business in the old "Herald" Office
until
Christmas, after which this business will be
transferred to the furniture establishment in
Main
Street, and the latter department will be
transferred
to the old "Herald" Office. The wood, iron, oil,
flour, meal and all the heavy materials are still
in
the yard of the burned premises, and these
departments
will be carried on there as usual.

 

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Caoimhghin

Just read the obituary on Michael Cryan. Just wondering if any info on where he was born etc.

I am decended from Dominic Crane/Cryan born 1831 in Mayo we think-not quite sure but it is beginning

to look a lot like Rosscomman. Just thought I would ask. Anybody out there ever come across Dominic

or his father Michael, b I think about 1800 or so. Sincerely, Charlie Crane

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> > he was born etc. I am decended from
> Dominic Crane/Cryan born 1831 in Mayo we
> > think-not quite sure but it is beginning to
> look a lot like Rosscomman. Just > > thought I would ask. Anybody out there
> ever come across Dominic or his > > father Michael, b I think about 1800 or
so.
Hi I wonder in your cross linking for you Dominic
you came across another Dominic(k) ? Cryan:
Bn about 1802
Died abt 1892 possibly in Boyle
His wive was Catherine Cauly/ Cawley/ Cawly and
he had at least 5 children (James (1846), Thomas (1854), Patrick
(1855), Catherine Augustina (1860) and Sarah (24/03/66))

Any information begged for (I have fragments only
on some of these folk)<I actually am beginning to think my Dominick was
a hologram>
tc Anthony Cryan Brisbane, AustraliaAnthony & Jill Cryan
cryanaj@ozemail.com.au

 

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3. Carrowanty Cemetery - County Sligo, Ireland

http://www.interment.net/data/ireland/sligo/carrowanty/carrowanty.htm

size 15,876 bytes - 01/01/2002 20:56:19 GMT
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4. Gurteen Cemetery - County Sligo, Ireland

http://www.interment.net/data/ireland/sligo/gurteen/gurteen.htm

size 18,535 bytes - 01/01/2002 20:56:19 GMT
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5. Highland Cemetery - Androscoggin County,
Maine

http://www.interment.net/data/us/me/androscoggin/highland_cemetery.htm

size 15,956 bytes - 01/01/2002 21:15:47 GMT
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6. Golden Gate National Cemetery - Surnames C -
San
Mateo County, California

http://www.interment.net/data/us/ca/sanmateo/ggate/c/golden_c20.htm

size 47,230 bytes - 01/02/2002 03:59:59 GMT
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7. Assylinn Cemetery - County Roscommon, Ireland

http://www.interment.net/data/ireland/roscommon/assylinn/assylinn.htm

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8. Glasnevin Cemetery - County Dublin, Ireland

http://www.interment.net/data/ireland/dublin/glasnevin/glasnevin.htm

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9. Mt. Calvary Cemetery - Barry County, Michigan

http://www.interment.net/data/us/mi/barry/mt_calvary.htm

size 79,214 bytes - 01/01/2002 21:16:10 GMT
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10. Cypress Hills National Cemetery - Surnames
Ho-Hy
- Kings County, New York

http://www.interment.net/data/us/ny/kings/cypressnat/index_hohy.htm

size 52,099 bytes - 24/03/2002 04:49:21 GMT
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11. Los Angeles National Cemetery - Surnames C -
Los
Angeles County, California

http://www.interment.net/data/us/ca/losangeles/lanat/c/lanat_c16.htm

size 56,570 bytes - 01/02/2002 03:55:19 GMT
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12. Fort Rosecrans National Cemetery - Surnames
C -
San Diego County, California

http://www.interment.net/data/us/ca/sandiego/rosecrans/c/rosecrans_c12.htm

size 52,435 bytes - 01/02/2002 03:58:33 GMT
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13. Riverside National Cemetery - Surnames C -
Riverside County, California

http://www.interment.net/data/us/ca/riverside/rivnat/c/riverside_c26.htm

size 63,301 bytes - 01/02/2002 03:56:52 GMT
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14. Fort Bliss National Cemetery - Surname
Cre-Cz -
El Paso County, Texas

http://www.interment.net/data/us/tx/elpaso/ftblinat/ftbliss_crecz.htm

size 61,444 bytes - 24/03/2002 04:59:23 GMT
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Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2002 11:29:25 -0800 (PST)
From: "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> | Block Address | Add to Address Book
Subject: [Cryan et al.] interment.net 'crean'
To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
Documents 1 to 12 of 12 matching the query "
crean ".
New query

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1. Ballinvilla Graveyard - County Mayo, Ireland

http://www.interment.net/data/ireland/mayo/ballinvilla/ballinvilla.htm

size 6,444 bytes - 01/01/2002 20:56:08 GMT
Summary Full

2. Calvary Cemetery - County Wexford, Ireland

http://www.interment.net/data/ireland/wexford/calvary/calvary.htm

size 30,878 bytes - 01/01/2002 20:56:22 GMT
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3. Arlington National Cemetery - Surnames Cr-Cz
-
Arlington County, Virginia

http://www.interment.net/data/us/va/arlington/arlington/arlington_crcz.htm

size 23,112 bytes - 01/01/2002 21:43:00 GMT
Summary Full

4. Golden Gate National Cemetery - Surnames C -
San
Mateo County, California

http://www.interment.net/data/us/ca/sanmateo/ggate/c/golden_c19.htm

size 62,255 bytes - 01/02/2002 03:59:58 GMT
Summary Full

5. Fort Sam Houston National Cemetery - Surnames
C -
Bexar County, Texas

http://www.interment.net/data/us/tx/bexar/ftsamnat/c/ft_sam_c17.htm

size 66,573 bytes - 24/03/2002 04:58:07 GMT
Summary Full

6. Beverly National Cemetery - Surnames Cor-Cri
-
Burlington County, New Jersey

http://www.interment.net/data/us/nj/burlington/beverly/index_corcri.htm

size 79,417 bytes - 01/01/2002 21:24:20 GMT
Summary Full

7. Chattanooga National Cemetery - Surnames
Cou-Cri -
Hamilton County, Tennessee

http://www.interment.net/data/us/tn/hamilton/chattanat/index_coucri.htm

size 47,105 bytes - 01/01/2002 21:37:43 GMT
Summary Full

8. Culpeper National Cemetery - Surnames Co-Cy -
Culpeper County, Virginia

http://www.interment.net/data/us/va/culpeper/culpenat/index_cocy.htm

size 49,454 bytes - 01/01/2002 21:43:15 GMT
Summary Full

9. Los Angeles National Cemetery - Surnames C -
Los
Angeles County, California

http://www.interment.net/data/us/ca/losangeles/lanat/c/lanat_c15.htm

size 56,305 bytes - 01/02/2002 03:55:19 GMT
Summary Full

10. Wood National Cemetery - Surnames Coo-Cre -
Milwaukee County, Wisconsin

http://www.interment.net/data/us/wi/milwaukee/woodnat/wood_coocre.htm

size 47,705 bytes - 01/01/2002 21:48:46 GMT
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11. Willamette National Cemetery - Surnames C -
Multnomah County, Oregon

http://www.interment.net/data/us/or/multnomah/willanat/c/willamette_c18.htm

size 59,997 bytes - 01/01/2002 21:32:16 GMT
Summary Full

12. Dayton National Cemetery - Surnames Cre-Cz -
Montgomery County, Ohio

http://www.interment.net/data/us/oh/montgomery/daynat/dayton_crecz.htm

size 59,527 bytes - 24/03/2002 05:05:55 GMT
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Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2002 11:30:39 -0800 (PST)
From: "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> | Block Address | Add to Address Book
Subject: [Cryan et al.] interment.net 'crine'
To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
Documents 1 to 7 of 7 matching the query " crine
".
New query

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1. Bath National Cemetery - Surnames Cr-Da -
Steuben
County, New York

http://www.interment.net/data/us/ny/steuben/bathnat/bath_crda.htm

size 49,838 bytes - 24/03/2002 04:50:18 GMT
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2. Knoxville National Cemetery - Surnames Co-Cu
-
Knox County, Tennessee

http://www.interment.net/data/us/tn/knox/knoxnat/index_cocu.htm

size 44,669 bytes - 01/01/2002 21:38:08 GMT
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3. Riverside National Cemetery - Surnames P -
Riverside County, California

http://www.interment.net/data/us/ca/riverside/rivnat/p/riverside_p01.htm

size 49,385 bytes - 01/02/2002 03:57:40 GMT
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4. Hampton National Cemetery - Surnames Cop-Cri
-
Hampton County, Virginia

http://www.interment.net/data/us/va/hampton/hampnat/index_copcri.htm

size 52,934 bytes - 01/01/2002 21:43:31 GMT
Summary Full

5. Southern Nevada Veterans Memorial Cemetery -
Surnames Cl-Cz - Clark County, Nevada

http://www.interment.net/data/us/nv/clark/snvmc/snvmc_clcz.htm

size 51,279 bytes - 01/01/2002 21:26:16 GMT
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6. Willamette National Cemetery - Surnames C -
Multnomah County, Oregon

http://www.interment.net/data/us/or/multnomah/willanat/c/willamette_c18.htm

size 59,997 bytes - 01/01/2002 21:32:16 GMT
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7. National Memorial Cemetery of Arizona -
Surnames
Cr-Cur - Maricopa County, Arizona

http://www.interment.net/data/us/az/maricopa/national/arizona_crcur.htm

size 65,746 bytes - 28/03/2002 05:21:09 GMT
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Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2002 11:31:51 -0800 (PST)
From: "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> | Block Address | Add to Address Book
Subject: [Cryan et al.] interment.net 'crehan'
To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
Documents 1 to 10 of 10 matching the query "
crehan ".

New query

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1. St. Patrick's Holmpatrick Cemetery - County
Dublin, Ireland

http://www.interment.net/data/ireland/dublin/patrick/holmpatrick.htm

size 38,663 bytes - 01/01/2002 20:56:01 GMT
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2. Baltimore National Cemetery - Surnames Cra-Cs
-
Baltimore City, Maryland

http://www.interment.net/data/us/md/baltimorecity/baltnat/index_cracs.htm

size 43,940 bytes - 01/01/2002 21:14:58 GMT
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3. Brush Ridge Cemetery - Barry County, Michigan

http://www.interment.net/data/us/mi/barry/brush_ridge.htm

size 34,305 bytes - 01/01/2002 21:16:04 GMT
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4. Massachusetts National Cemetery - Surnames
Cov-Cul
- Barnstable County, Massachusetts

http://www.interment.net/data/us/ma/barnstable/massnat/mass_covcul.htm

size 58,307 bytes - 01/01/2002 21:13:54 GMT
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5. Bay Pines National Cemetery - Surnames Cou-Cz
-
Pinellas County, Florida

http://www.interment.net/data/us/fl/pinellas/baypinat/bay_pines_coucz.htm

size 50,916 bytes - 28/03/2002 05:24:32 GMT
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6. Baton Rouge National Cemetery - Surnames C-Di
-
East Baton Rouge Parish, Louisiana

http://www.interment.net/data/us/la/eastbatrou/batonat/index_cdi.htm

size 64,755 bytes - 28/03/2002 05:30:32 GMT
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7. Golden Gate National Cemetery - Surnames C -
San
Mateo County, California

http://www.interment.net/data/us/ca/sanmateo/ggate/c/golden_c19.htm

size 62,255 bytes - 01/02/2002 03:59:58 GMT
Summary Full

8. Fort Bliss National Cemetery - Surname
Cal-Cari -
El Paso County, Texas

http://www.interment.net/data/us/tx/elpaso/ftblinat/ftbliss_calcari.htm

size 58,819 bytes - 24/03/2002 04:59:21 GMT
Summary Full

9. Beverly National Cemetery - Surnames Cor-Cri
-
Burlington County, New Jersey

http://www.interment.net/data/us/nj/burlington/beverly/index_corcri.htm

size 79,417 bytes - 01/01/2002 21:24:20 GMT
Summary Full

10. Riverside National Cemetery - Surnames C -
Riverside County, California

http://www.interment.net/data/us/ca/riverside/rivnat/c/riverside_c25.htm

size 60,802 bytes - 01/02/2002 03:56:52 GMT
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Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2002 11:37:22 -0800 (PST)
From: "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> | Block Address | Add to Address Book
Subject: [Cryan et al.] military/vietnam 'cryan'
To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
http://distantcousin.com/military/vietnam/ca/c.html

California Residents MIA / KIA during the Vietnam
Conflict

Name Rank / Grade Branch Home of record
City / County Date of Birth Date of Casualty

CRYAN KENNETH MICHAEL SP5 ARMY SAN MATEO 07/25/45
05/04/68

Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2002 11:44:05 -0800 (PST)
From: "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> | Block Address | Add to Address Book
Subject: [Cryan et al.] Assemblyman Joseph Cryan and Enron
To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com


http://www.cpanj.com/capitalreportpages/legislativeaction/january2002/COHEN%20%20CRYAN%20URGE%20NJ%

20JOIN%20CLASS-ACTION%20SUIT.htm

 

January 25, 2002

COHEN / CRYAN URGE NJ JOIN CLASS-ACTION SUIT
AGAINST
ENRON; CITE $60 MILLION PENSION FUND LOSS

Citing a nearly $60 million loss in the
state-administered pension systems as a result of
Enron's financial collapse, Assembly Deputy
Majority
Leader Neil M. Cohen and Assemblyman Joseph Cryan
today urged state Attorney General David Samson
to
authorize New Jersey's inclusion with other
states
mounting a civil class-action lawsuit against the
bankrupt energy company and its financial
advisors.

In a letter sent to Samson this morning, the
Assemblymen said the state has a responsibility
to
protect the interests of the enrollees in the
state's
public employee pension funds.

"As public officials, we have a responsibility to
protect the long-term viability of the state's
pension
funds," Cohen and Cryan wrote. "Today there is
one
Enron bankruptcy. Tomorrow, there could be dozens
of
such cases -- especially if we fail to undertake
efforts aimed at fostering responsible corporate
conduct."

--30--

 

Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2002 11:51:50 -0800 (PST)
From: "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> | Block Address | Add to Address Book
Subject: [Cryan et al.] Twin Towers and a Cryan!
To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
http://abcnews.go.com/sections/scitech/DailyNews/WTC_towers_structure010911.html

Final Collapse
Experts: Twin Towers Were Designed to Withstand
High
Impact

By Amanda Onion

 

 

Sept. 11 - They survived powerful hurricane
gusts,
even a bomb explosion, but this morning's two
intentional plane crashes reduced the twin towers
of
the World Trade Center to rubble.


The 110-story towers, the tallest buildings in
the
city and the fifth and sixth tallest in the
world,
collapsed in billows of debris following two
plane
crashes to their sides.
By early evening, another building in the World
Trade
Center system, a 47-story, 570-foot tall building
known as Seven World Trade Center, also collapsed
after fires had raged all day in its foundation.
The
evacuated building was damaged when the tower
above it
collapsed earlier.

Despite initial damage from the crashes, the two
twintowers remained standing for just over an hour
this morning and appeared to be a testimony to the
abilities of structural engineering.

But experts say structural damage, caused mostly
by fires following the crashes, was evidently severe
enough to overburden the lower sections of the
towers and eventually cause both towers to topple.

 

"The World Trade Center was designed as a very
large tube with steel columns on the perimeter of the
building," said John Cryan, president of Severud
Associates, a structural engineering firm that
provides consulting to skyscraper architects.
"What must have happened is the top part of the
buildings probably collapsed and that put too much weight
on the lower halves and that had a domino effect on the
entire towers."

Built Like a Steel Tube

The World Trade Center hosts an estimated 50,000
employees and receives an average of 1.8 million
visitors annually.

Part of the severity of the damage, Cryan
believes, was the place of impact by the planes. The lower
thecrashes, the greater the damage to the towers'
overallintegrity. The first tower to crumble, the
southerntower, was the one that had received the lowest
strikeby an oncoming aircraft.

Rich Behr, a professor of architectural
engineering atPennsylvania State University, further points out
thatthe approximate one-hour delay in the towers'
collapses suggest the main damage was likely
caused,
not by the plane strikes, themselves, but by
fires that burned inside the buildings for more than an
hourfollowing the crashes. These fires, fueled by the
aircrafts' fuel tanks, likely caused the steel
beamsto melt and lose their stiffness.

"It was the post impact fire that was the major
culprit," said Behr. "After the impact, there was
nosign of stress. [Then], after an hour of flame
weakened steel and [led to the] collapse."

Built by the Port Authority of New York and New
Jerseyin 1973, the World Trade Center towers were the
bestexamples of tube buildings of their time. Tube
buildings are reinforced by closely spaced
columns andbeams in their outer walls, forming a steel tube.
Aseries of glass windows fill in the space between
thebeams. And an internal core beam adds to the
stabilityof tube structures.

To ensure the towers rested on solid bedrock and
notthe six acres of landfill that existed at the
site ofthe towers, workers dug through more than 70 feet
below ground before beginning construction of the
twintowers in the early 1970s.

Engineers at Leslie E. Robertson, an engineering
foundation based in New York City, designed the
building's structure. Employees at this
organization were not immediately available for comment.

Cryan explains that skyscrapers like the World
Trade Center are designed to take less localized
impacts on a daily basis. The steel beam-lined buildings
rely on their tube network of beams to sustain hurricanes
and seismic events. On Feb. 26, 1993, one of the
towers even survived a bomb explosion at its base. The
explosion created a 22-foot-wide, five-story-deep
crater in the tower.

But today's impacts clearly exceeded the two
towers' standing power.

"I can't imagine the force of these crashes on
the towers," said Cryan. "I can't imagine anybody
wanting to do this."

ABCNEWS' Paul Eng contributed to this report.

Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2002 04:55:39 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> | Block Address | Add to Address Book
Subject: [Cryan et al.] Andrew Crehan and Ellen Maloney
To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
-- Mercedes Hall 229905 <mhall@esc5.net> wrote:
> Austin Joseph Crehan (in the Baton Rouge
National
> Cemetery, Baton Rouge, Louisiana, USA) is my
father.
> I know for a fact that his paternal
grandparents
> (Andrew Crehan and Ellen Maloney) and maternal
> grandparents (James Sommerville and Helen
Walsh)
> came from County Limerick. I do not know how
to go
> about searching records in Ireland. Any help
you
> offer will be appreciated.
>
> Mercedes Hall

Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 02:28:45 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> | Block Address | Add to Address Book
Subject: Fwd: Re: [Cryan et al.] Andrew Crehan and Ellen Maloney
To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

From: Carole C Wagner <cwagner5@juno.com>
Content-Length: 494

Hi, please pass on to Mercedes that I have Civil
War pension papers of an
Andrew Crehan married to an Ellen somebody. They
lived in Pittsburgh,
Pa. Ask her to reach me at CCWagner5@aol.
That is two Cs where my Juno address has only one
C.
Thanks
Carole Wagner

Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 06:28:20 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Colin Crehan" <colin_crehan@yahoo.com> | Block Address | Add to Address Book
Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: [Cryan et al.] Andrew Crehan and Ellen Maloney
To: "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>
Pittsburgh Crehans,
Regarding that last note, I have a friend, who has a sister-in-law married to a Crehan (or maybe a Creehan) in Pittsburgh. If this is an important link for somebody, let me know, and I will seek out an e-mail address.
- Colin Crehan

Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 12:24:36 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> | Block Address | Add to Address Book
Subject: [Cryan et al.] Roscommon Herald Articles No. 96
To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
cryan-l@rootsweb.com
Roscommon Herald Articles No. 96
Thanks to Veronica Cryan for the typing
2 May 1903
Estreating Recognicances.
District Inspector Madden, charged Patrick Cryan
and
his sureties, Francis Reynolds and John Mahon,
for
that the said Cryan failed to appear when called
upon
according to the terms of the bail bonds signed
by
defendants.

In the absence of Mr. Madden, Head Constable
Lehane
conducted the case.
Mr.Corscadden, who defended, said the Head
Constable
had no use in proving the case, as the case was
proved
in court on a former occasion, when he
(Mr.Corscadden)
was present. He appeared on behalf of Frs.
Reynolds,
and he would ask the magistrates to let him off
as
light as possible, as they have perfect power to
do.
The worst thing is that a man like Mr. Reynolds -
a
most respectable man in Mohill - should be
accountable
for this man. Mr.Reynolds stood up for this man
Cryan,
and expected he would behave himself. It is very
unfortunate that the man did not keep up to those
expectations. Cryan himself is away. If Cryan
were
here he would understand their worships fining
him
very heavily. It is very hard lines that the two
sureties should have to suffer this man, who
happens
to have left the country.
Chairman - How much is bail ?
Mr. Coleman, C.P.S. - £10.
The magistrates retired, and after an absence of
about
ten minutes returned.
The chairman said the magistrates had considered
the
case, and have decided on fining each of the
defendants 5s. and Cryan 10s.

Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 12:25:52 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> | Block Address | Add to Address Book
Subject: [Cryan et al.] Roscommon Herald Articles No. 97
To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
cryan-l@rootsweb.com
Roscommon Herald Articles No. 97
Thanks to Veronica Cryan for the typing

May 16, 1903.

O B I T U A R Y.

 

DEATH AND FUNERAL OF MR. MICHL CRYAN,
CAR[R]OWREAGH, CARRICK -ON - SHANNON.

 

Seldom has a death occurred in this part of the
country which has excited such feelings of deep
sorrow
and widespread regret as that of Mr. Michael
Cryan.
The regret was not only felt by his friends and
relatives, but by a very wide circle of
acquaintances.
The deceased young gentleman, who was most
deservedly
popular, and had only attained the age of 26
years,
contracted a slight cold whilst attending the
Boyle
March fair, which gradually grew more serious,
despite
the fact that the best medical aid was called
into
requisition, as well as the untiring and tender
care
of loving parents and fond brothers and sisters.
But
all proved futile; God chose him as one of those
pure,
noble, and beautiful, for a higher calling. Death
that
cruel hand, claimed him on Thursday morning, the
7th
inst., and fortified by the rites to the holy
church,
he peacefully breathed his last, surrounded by a
grief
stricken family. His kind, gentlemanly,
unassuming
character, combined with that purity and
nobleness of
heart, endeared him to all classes, and will
remain in
the hearts of everyone who had the pleasure of
knowing
him, as was exemplified by the expressions of
deep
sorrow and regret elicited by his death. He was
the
youngest son of Mr. John Cryan, Carrowreagh, who
is
well known and highly respected in Roscommon and
adjoining counties. The funeral, which took place
on
Saturday evening to the family burial ground in
Killumod, was the largest seen in the district
for
years, and was a fitting index of the respect and
esteem in which deceased was held. The coffin
which
was of richly-polished oak, and handsomely
mounted,
was literally covered with beautiful wreaths. It
bore
the inscription: "Michael Cryan, died the 7th May
1903-aged 26 years - R.I.P."

The chief mourners were - Messrs Martin, Patrick
and
Peter Cryan (brothers) Miss N.Cryan, Miss
K.Cryan,
Mrs.J.J.Nolan, Mrs.P.Morris, Mrs. M.Connellan,
Mrs.M.
Connellan, Mrs.L. Commons, Mrs. G. O'Connor
(sisters)
Mr. J.J.Nolan, Mr. M.Connellan, Mr. P.Morris, Mr.
G.Commons (brothers-in-law) Mr. F.Morris,
Mr.G.Morris,
Mr.N.Morris, Mr. E.O'Connor, Mr.J. O'Connor,
Master
J.Cryan (nephews) Mr. Luke Cryan, Mr. Martin
Carney,
Mr. Peter Carney, Mr. John Carney (uncles) Mr. J.
Cryan, Boyle, Mr. P.J. Carney, Mr. J.J. Carney,
Mr. M.
Carney, Elphin, Mr. P.Cryan, Bridgetown, Mr.
P.Kielty,
Mr. F. Kielty, Flagford, Mr. P. Cryan,
Carrowreagh,
Mr. P. Carney, Mr. J. Carney, Portobello; Mr. M.
Carney, Mr. E. Carney, Mr.J. Carney, Creevolan,
Mr. M.
Moran, Mr.J. Carney, Corballa, Mr. P.O'Farrell,
Leitrim, Mr. G. O'Reilly, Mr. E. O'Reilly,
Longford.
Mr. E.Carney, Strokestown; Mr. E.Stapleton, Hill
Street. Mr. E.Bannon, Mr. J. Bannon, Clonfad; Mr.
J.
O'Beirne, Cartron; Mr.B.Duignan, Dromod; Mr.
M.Connolly, Mr. R.Connolly, Strokestown -
(cousins).

The following sent wreaths - "With undying love
and
remembrance for our darling Michael," from his
broken-hearted parents, brothers and sisters;
"With
deep sorrow for our darling brother Michael,"
from Mr.
& Mrs. Connellan Elphin; "With deep sorrow and
regret
for our dearest brother Michael," from Mr. & Mrs.
Moran, Doneraile; "In loving remembrance of our
darling brother." From Mr. & Mrs. Commons,
Breedogue;
"In fond and loving remembrance of dearest
Michael."
from S.J. Cryan, Boyle; "To our dear uncle
Michael."
from May, Dolly, Josie and Walter Nolan; "In
loving
remembrance of dearest Uncle from Baby and Frank
Morris; "In fond remembrance of our dear uncle."
from
Michael and Tom O'Connor; To our loving and fond
uncle, Michael." from his sorrowing little nieces
and
nephews, May, Susie, Nora, Jack and Patrick
Cryan.

Amongst those at the funeral were - Rev. Father
O'Brien, P.P., Croghan; Rev. Father M'Gowan, C.C.
Drumlion; Dr. Delaney, Carrick-on-Shannon;
Dr.Threlfall; do.; Mr. J. Barrett, J.P.; Mr.
E.McDermott, do; Mr. P. Flynn, J.P. do.; Mr.
D.Pettit,
do.; Mr. J.J. Rodden,do.: Mr.P.Devany, do.: Mr.
P.
O'Dowd, do.; Mr. J.. Nabola, do.; Mr. K. Feely,
do.;
Mr. J.Murray. do.; Mr. J.J.Connellan, do.; Mr.
J.Cryan, Boyle; Mr. Bertie O'Byrne, Lisadurn
House;
Mr. G.O'Reilly, Longford; Mr. P. Rodgers,
Aughamore
House; Mr. J. Lavin, Elphin; Mr. E. McDermott,
do.;
Mr. J. Dockery, do.; Mr. A. Kelly, C.P.S.;do.;
Mr. J.
Sharkey, do.; Mr. P. O'Dowd, do.; Mr. J. Scott,
do.;
Mr. P.McDermott, Oanbo; Mr. A. Collins, do.; Mr.
P.
Collins, do.; Mr. F. Collins, do.; Mr.E. Commons,
Breedogue; Mr. N. Neary, do.; Mr. J. Neary, do.;
Mr.
P. Cryan, Carrowreagh; Mr. M. Fox. do.; Mr. E.
O'Connor, Larchgrove; Messrs. P. and E. M'Kerman,
do.;
Mr. J. McDermott. Soulmount; Mr. P. O'Dowd.
Clonfad;
Mr. P. Morris, do.; Mr. F. Kielty, do.; Mr.
J.O'Dowd;
Bridgecartron; Mr. H. Kilgannon, Martry; Mr. P.
Kellegher. Co, C., Cartron; Mr. C.Kellegher, do.;
Mr.
Mark McDermott, Machodille; Mr. J. Boyd, Cashel;
Mr.
G. Boyd, do.; Mr. M. Dowd, D.C. Ballyvilla; Mr.
J.
Boyd, do.; Mr. A. Collins, do.; Mr. J. Dowd,
Knockroe;
Mr. D. Boyd, Knockroe; Mr. D. Boyd, Springfield,
Mr.
C. Kellegher, do.; Messrs. G. and M. Devany,
Killucan;
Messrs. F. and G. Hayden, Fortland; Messrs G. M.
and
P. Goldrick, Drumlion; Messrs. M. and G. Feely,
do.;
Messrs. P.J. and M. McDermott, do.; Mr. P. Moran,
do.;
Mr. F. Haydon, do.; Mr. J. McGreevy, do.; Mr. E.
Padden. D.C. do.; Mr. C. Horan, do.; Messrs. J.G.
and
M. Moran, do.; Messrs. G. and M. Dowd, do.; Mr.
J.
M'Greevy. Boher; Mr. G. Dowd, do.; etc., etc.,
Rev.
Father O'Brien, assisted by Rev. Father M'Gowan,
officiated at the graveside. May his soul rest in
peace.

 

Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 12:27:17 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: [Cryan et al.] Roscommon Herald Articles No. 98
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Roscommon Herald Articles No. 98
Thanks to Veronica Cryan for the typing

29 August 1903

BOYLE PETTY SESSIONS.

REMINISCENCES OF CARRICK REGATTA.

ROW STARTS IN CARRICK AND WINDS UP IN BOYLE.

TWO YOUNG MEN BOUND TO THE PEACE.

A HINT TO LEAVE SLIGO ROAD.

INTERESTING LICENSING PROSECUTION.

R.M. AND SOLICITOR ON THE SUNDAY CLOSING ACT.

SOME LIVELY EXCHANGES.

These petty sessions were held on Wednesday,
before
Mr.W. Jones. R.M. (presiding) and Major J.F.
Murphy,
J.P.,

WANDERING ANIMALS;

Constable Cannon summoned Mr. A. Poynton for
allowing
two cows and a horse to wander on a public road
at
Breandrum and he was fined 1s. and costs.

ASSAULT.
District Inspector T.L. McClelland charged two
respectable young fellows named Thomas Higgins,
who
lives at Carramore, and Wm. Higgins who resides
at
Erris, with assaulting Henry Baker, Junior and
Michael
Duffy, at Warren, on the night of the 3rd August.
There were cross-cases by the two defendants in
the
Crown case against Baker and Duffy for assault.
Mr. P. C.P. MacDermot appeared for Thomas and
William
Higgins and Mr. W.J. Higgins was for Baker in the
case
against him for alleged assault.
Head Constable Gallagher was first examined, and
deposed that Baker and Duffy declined to
prosecute.
Mr. McClelland - Both declined to prosecute and
we
then took up the case.
Mr. MacDermot asked that Duffy be put out of
court
while Baker was being
examined.
Mr. McClelland - Well, put them all out so.
Mr. MacDermot - There are no witnesses for this
side
except the defendants, and they are entitled to
be
here. They have a cross-case, and I would ask you
to
hear it before giving your decision.
The witnesses were then ordered out of court.
Henry Baker (junior) deposed that on the 3rd of
August, at about 9 o'clock at night he was
sitting in
Mr. Webb's cart going home. At Warren Tom Higgins
and
William Higgins came over from the roadside and
pulled
him out of the cart, knocked him down and kicked
him.
He had to get two stitches in his head.
Mr. Jones - Why did they assault you ? - Tom
Higgins
left his own side of the road to beat me.
Had you any dispute before ? They followed me
through
the town that evening.
For what ? - I could not say.
Oh, you can say? - I cannot tell you.
Mr. McClelland - What was the cause of the row?
- I
cannot say.
Mr. Jones - People don't do that without some
motive.
Why should they follow you more than anyone else?
-
Tom struck me in the town before that.
Mr. Jones - You ought to be well able for that
fellow
anyway.
Baker - He came across the road and young Duffy
ran
away.
Mr. Jones - What did he strike you with ? - He
knocked
me down with a box, and then he kicked me.
Cross-examined by Mr. MacDermot - your father is
a
herd on the Plains ? - Yes.
Mr. Jones - are the defendants not brothers?
Mr. MacDonald - No sir (To Baker) - You are
Herds, and
live near each other? - Yes.
Unfortunately, for yourself you have been
convicted
here several times ? I have not been up here
these
couple of years.
How many convictions were against you up to that
time?
- only one for being drunk.
Head Constable Gallagher - I am four years here,
and
in justice to Baker it is only fair to say he has
only
been up once, and that was for obstruction on the
footpath.
Mr.MacDermot - Were you ever up for assault?
Baker - No sir.
At the time you were summoned for obstructing the
thoroughfare was William Higgins standing on the
footpath with you ? - Yes
Do you know that the Head Constable warned him
not to
keep your company? - I know nothing about it.
Since that time this boy is not as friendly with
you
as he used to be ? - No.
You don't like that I suppose?
Mr. Jones - Did the Head Constable warn him?
Baker - not that I know.
Mr. MacDermott - I will prove it. The Head
Constable
does not dispute it.
Head Constable Gallagher - I may have cautioned
him
against standing on the footpath, but with regard
to
keeping Baker's company that did not occur. Mr.
MacDermot - Since that time you and Higgins are
not
friendly ? - No.
On this day you were all at Carrick Regatta ? -
We
were.
Were you under the influence of drink? - I had
some
taken.
You admit you were not friendly with both of them
for
some time? - Yes.
Did you meet them on their way to the Railway
Station
at Carrick that night? - They were before me on
the
road.
Did you assault any of them on the way to Carrick
Station ? - No.
Did you come up with them? - I overtook them.
What did you say to them ? - I said nothing to
them.
Were you pretty drunk? - I was, but I was able to
take
care of myself
Did you meet them at Mr. Cryan's corner when you
came
to this town ? - Yes. Tom Higgins followed me
into Mr.
Cryan's.
What occurred in Mr. Cryan's? - He caught hold of
me
and pulled my tie off.
Did you say anything to him? - No, sir.
They went out the road before you ? - They did.
And you went after them ? - Yes.
Didn't you turn up to go home at Mr. Dickie's? -
Yes.
Where about did this occur? Weren't they sitting
on
the wall there, and do you swear they attacked
you on
the roadside without any reason what ever? - They
did,
and stopped Mr. Webb's jennet on the road.
Michael Duffy deposed he is in the employment of
Mr.
Webb, and on the night of the 3rd he went to the
Railway Station for luggage. He went down to Mr.
Cryan's and got some things. Willie Higgins and
Tom
came up the street and Tom said that is "Fealy's
jennet".
Mr. Jones - Who is Feely? - He is a Herd for Mr.
Webb.
They walked out the road and when I got the
things out
of Mr. Cryan's I was going home, and the opposite
Mr.
Dickie's - Mr. McClelland - Where did you come
across
Baker? - At Mr. Cryan's.
And did you give him a seat on the cart? - I did.
When
we got as far as Mr.Dickie's Tom Higgins ran out
and
caught me by the two arms. I gave a kick to the
Jennet
and she started to gallop. Tom caught the rains,
and
tried to hold me in the reins. He turned the
jennet
for Boyle, and I jumped off the cart, and went
five or
six yards above them off the road. Henry Baker
was
leaping off the cart when Tom Higgins gave him a
shove
and knocked him down. Willie ran back from the
wall
and gave him a kick on head.
Mr. McClelland - was he cut? - He was sir.
Mr. Jones what did you do ? - I did nothing, but
went
eight or nine yards above them and stood there.
What did they do then? - They kicked Baker for
about
five minutes. Henry Baker said "Hold on, boys,
don't
kick." They were kicking him, and he got out of
it.
They came up a piece of the road to where we were
standing, and ran down the hill and up Mr.
Dickie's
lane. I went down for the jennet and cart and
went
home.
Cross-examined by Mr. MacDermot -- did you see
the two
of them kick him? yes.
What was the commencement of this ? - I don't
know.
Was Baker drunk? - He was not too drunk. Had you
any
drink taken? - No I don't drink at all.
Mr. Jones - Did you see any row going on in Mr.
Cryan's ? - No sir.
Head Constable Gallagher - Whatever occurred in
Cryan's, I inquired about it, and it did not last
a
minute.
Mr.MacDermot - Did Baker try or do anything to
them?
Duffy - Nothing that I know of. He did nothing to
them
while I was on the cart with them.
Do you mean to say he said or did nothing to
them? -
Not a word sir.
Mrs. Mary Clancy, Erris, deposed that was the
night of
the 3rd she was returning home at about nine
o'clock
and when she came past Mr. Dickie's she saw
William
and Tom Higgins sitting on the wall. She was up
the
road when Henry Baker overtook her: he was then
all
blood.
Mr.McClelland - Did you hear anything? - I heard
noise
before Henry Baker overtook me.
Mr. Jones - Did you look back when you heard the
noise? - I did, and could see nothing only Henry
Baker
covered with blood.
Did you see anyone follow him? - I saw these two
boys.
Where was the other hero? - Duffy was also there.
The
two were running away, and I brought Baker to my
house, and told him to get his head dressed.
About ten
o'clock Tom Higgins came to my house shouting for
Baker to come out, and he would twist the head
off
him.
Mr. Jones - Was William with him? - He was, but
said
nothing.
Cross-examined by Mr. McDermot - Tom Higgins's
people
and you are not on good terms - they had you up
for
trespass? We are not on good terms. They never
had me
up for trespass, but they had my brother.

THE CROSS-CASES.

The cross-cases were next gone into.
Thomas Higgins deposed he was at Carrick Regatta
on
that day. When Willie Higgins and he were going
to the
Railway Station from Carrick, Baker struck Willie
Higgins and knocked him down. He struck him
(Thomas)
coming from Boyle Station and left a mark on him.
They
went into Mr.Cryan's public house and were having
a
drink when Baker struck him again. The shop
assistant
put Baker out. They went out the road, and Baker
----
Mr. Jones - have you any independent witness to
prove
Baker struck you coming from the train? - No; Mr.
Cryan's shop-boy put us out.
Mr. MacDermot - Of course Baker is Mr. Cryan's
herd,
and the shop assistant would not like to put him
out.
Thomas Higgins, continuing, said Baker came after
them
shouting, and when getting off the cart fell.
When he
got up he struck William Higgins, and they got in
holds and fell. He never touched Baker or the
jennet
or cart.
Mr. MacDermot - What attracted your attention
when the
cart came up? - He came up shouting, and said he
did
not care for any Higgins that ever walked the
road. He
got off the cart, fell and struck Willie Higgins.
Duffy ran away and started to throw stones at us.
He
never struck or kicked Baker, and did not see
Willie
Higgins strike him.
Mr. MacDermot - You and Baker are not on friendly
terms? - I was not in his company for twelve
months.
It was on account of William Higgins not being
great
with him that I did not mix with him.
Cross-examined by Mr. Robinson - Were you very
drunk?
- I was not drunk at all.
Mrs. Clancy, re-called by Mr. Jones, said Baker
was
not shouting on the cart.
Thomas Higgins on further cross-examination by
Mr.
Robinson, said he had six or seven bottles of
stout in
Carrick.
Mr. Robinson - Had you no whiskey? - No.
Had the other Higgins any? - It was all porter he
had.
What was the cause of the row at Carrick? - I
can't
say.
Was there anyone with Baker to the station - A
boy
names Lee was along with him.
Was Lee on the lee-side of Baker when you alleged
he
assaulted him Higgins? (Laughter) Why isn't Lee
here?
--I don't know.
Mr. Jones asked the Head Constable to send down
to Mr.
Cryan's for the assistant. Head Constable
Gallagher -
I was in with the assistant, and he said Baker
was in
the shop first, and, the whole thing didn't last
a
minute.
The assistant was sent for.
Mr. Robinson - Will you swear the scarf was not
torn
off his neck ?
Thomas Higgins - I didn't see the scarf torn off
his
neck.
You were put out ? - We were.
Why were you put out ? - Because Baker was rowing
with
us.
Do you expect the bench to believe you when you
give-that answer. What were you put out of the
shop
for ? - Well, I suppose for rowing.
Were you put out because you were very drunk? -
No; I
was not drunk.
What made you sit on the side of the road ? - We
did
not sit on the side of the road at all: we were
walking.
So what young Duffy and what that respectable
woman
swears is untrue ? - Yes.
What stopped the cart ? Some of themselves
stopped the
cart.
What did Duffy do to you ? - He threw stones at
me.
Mr. William Mullarkey, assistant in Mr. Cryan's
establishment, was then called.
Mr. Jones - Without anybody asking you a question
or
suggesting anything, tell us what happened in the
shop.
Mr. Mullarkey - Baker came in after coming from
the
station, and Tom Higgins came in after him and
struck
him. They then struck each other a few times, and
I
separated them and put out these chaps, and Baker
stopped inside, so I did not see any more.
Mr. Jones - Did you see Baker's tie pulled off. ?
- I
did not, sir.
Did you put out this man (Thomas Higgins) or did
he go
out himself ? - I got the boy out.
Was the other Higgins with him ? - He was.
Did he do anything ? - No, sir.
Was Thomas Higgins drunk or sober ? - I could not
say
he was drunk.
Was Baker sober ? - He was about half drunk.
Mr. MacDermot - Did you give them any drink ? -
No,
sir.
You would not say either of these boys was drunk
? -
No.
Did you remark any signs of drink ? - Not very
remarkable.
Could you say who hit first ? - Higgins did.
What occurred before he hit him ? - There was no
argument previously.
Are you able to say who was in first? -
Baker was not long in before Higgins. I should
say
about five or ten minutes.
You were busy, of course, in the shop ? -
Yes, I was.
When was your attention attracted first to
Higgins ? -
Simply at the start of the row.
What was the first thing said or done ? - I could
not
exactly say.
Can you honestly say that Higgins hit Baker first
? -
- Yes.
Mr. Jones - How long after you got this boy out
did
Baker remain in the shop? - Only about five or
ten
minutes. I told him to be going home.
The case of William Higgins against Baker and
Duffy
was next taken up.
William Higgins said he was with Thomas Higgins
at the
Regatta, and when they were going to the station
at
Carrick, Baker came up to them and asked them if
any
of them wanted a fight. He said "No" and Baker
struck
him and knocked him down. He got up and walked to
the
Railway Station. That night when they got out of
the
train at Boyle, Baker followed them and struck
Tom
Higgins under the left eye, and raised a lump on
it.
When they came down the street they went into Mr.
Cryan's, and Baker followed them in and struck
Tom
Higgins again. Both had holds and Mr. Cryan's boy
got
between them and told them to out. They went out.
Mr. MacDermot - What part of the shop did you go
into
? - The Bar.
Was Baker there when you went in ? - I could not
say.
They are in two divisions in the Bar ? - There
are.
And which division were you in ? - The lower
part. We
were going home, and Baker began shouting for any
Higgins on the road and when he got up to us he
jumped
off the cart and fell. When I got up he made a
rush at
me and knocked down. He started With Tom Higgins,
and
afterwards they both got in holds and fell. Young
Duffy threw stones at them and he and Tom Higgins
ran
behind Mr.Diukie's [sic] and they had to stop
there
for half an hour.
Cross-examined by Mr. Robinson - when did you and
Mr.
Higgins take out a cross'summons? - On Friday
night.
And when were you served with the summons by the
Crown? - On Wednesday.
Mr. MacDermot - it occurred on the 3rd August,
and I
find that the summons was not issued until the
18th
August. Of course there would be nothing about
this
only that the Crown took it up.
Mr.McClelland - We gave them the opportunity of
prosecuting.
Mr. MacDermot - Oh, I am not complaining of your
delay
at all.
Mr. Robinson - Did you not intend to summon Baker
until you got the Crown summons?
William Higgins - No, sir.
Major Murphy - That is natural.
Mr. Robinson - Had you much drink at Carrick ?
William Higgins - About, six or seven bottles of
stout.
Mr. Mr. Jones (to the Head Constable) - Did you
see
Baker ?
Head Constable Gallagher - He had an ugly cut on
his
head, and I told him to get it dressed that
night. He
got two stitches in it the next day.
Mr. MacDermot said of course it was very hard to
know
the truth in the case. but they could not miss
the
point that Baker would not prosecute himself.
which
went to show that he must have thought he was
culpable
in some way.
Mr. Jones - He might have a reason to fear them.
Mr. MacDermot - is it that big fellow?
He has a brother, too, as big as himself.
Mr. Jones - Have these boys ever been prosecuted
before?
Mr. Gillespie, C.P.S. said they were very
respectable
boys.
Mr. Jones - Has the man quite recovered?
Head Constable Gallagher - Oh, yes. He was moving
about the whole time, but not
working for a couple of days.
Mr. Jones - How long was he off work?
Baker - I was a week, Sir.
Mr. Jones said it was simply their character that
saved the two boys, Thomas and William Higgins,
from
going to jail, as it was essentially a case for
sending to jail where fellows lay in ambush and
waylaid-a-man like that. It, however was a
continuous
dispute, and there was drink in question. Owing
to
their respectability, he did not like sending
young
fellows to jail, but they would fine Thomas £l,
and
fine the other 10s, and put both under a rule of
bail
for twelve months, themselves in £10, and two
sureties
of £5 each. If any of them came before him for
assault
or waylaying he would send them to jail. He must
say
he was very sorry to hear such evidence given in
a
court. There was direct perjury and it was very
easy
to see who were the perjurers.

 

 

Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 12:28:12 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: [Cryan et al.] Roscommon Herald Articles No. 99
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Roscommon Herald Articles No. 99
Thanks to Veronica Cryan for the typing

6 June 1903
ELECTION OF CHAIRMAN.

Mr. John Cryan was unanimously moved to the
temporary
chair.
Chairman - You are all aware of the reason for
which
this meeting has been summoned.
Your first business is to elect a chairman for
the
ensuing year.
Mr. Boylan - I have much pleasure in proposing
Mr.
Cryan for the position of chairman.
Mr. Shiel seconded the proposition. Mr. Cryan was
an
excellent chairman, and had attended their
meetings
when required.
Mr. Casey - It should be unanimous, as he is the
right
man in the right place.
There was no other candidate proposed, and Mr.
Cryan
returned thanks for the members electing him to
the
position. He did not intend to go forward, but
circumstances altered cases.
Mr. Mullany said Mr. Cryan should be an addition
to
their body, as he had such experience at the
County
Council.

Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 03:07:25 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: [Cryan et al.] Cryan or Crane or Crean
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Caoimhghin

I am now after 25 years lookin in posession of
documentation re: the importation of my great
Grandfather Dominic Cryan or Crane or Crean
depending
on the occasion or the person writing it down,
thanks
to your great website. I was for a long timne
under
the belief that Dominic came out of Mayo but now

 

 

maybe
it was Rosscommon. He was born in 1831 had a
number
of brothers: Patrick Michael, Lawrence, John, all
born
in the 1830's in Ireland but where oh where.
They had
a sister Catherine b 1825 in Ireland and married
around 1844 to a lBreheny who then had a son
Patrick
breheny b. 1845 in Ireland but where oh where did
these fine people hail from in Ireland. As
mentioned
athey used all three spelling of the names at one
time
or another, so it is difficult to say if they are
related to the Rosscomman lCryans but they sure
could
have been. They left during the famine for
Liverpool
then on to the States. Patrick Cryan or Crane
was
married to Ann Monohan in Liverpool in about Nov
of
1851 at St. Patricks Church on Seal St. in
Liverpool.
That Parish has since gone into consoladation
with a
few others and they of course claim they can't
find
any record of the marriage which of course would
be
golden for my purposes of establishing a home
parish
for Patrick Cryan in Ireland. Patrick got killed
in
the Civil War in 1864 and left behind a widow and
four
children, one of whom became Bishop Michael Crane
in
the Philadelphia Archdioces in the 1920's. Two of
his
sisters became nuns Shame I cannot find out where
the
oldman was even born.

Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 03:50:41 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: [Cryan et al.] Corream and Kearane, now writtenn Crean and Crane
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http://www.sci.net.au/userpages/mgrogan/cork/kilmichael.htm

Notes on Names of Inhabitants of Parish of
Kilmichael
in 1766
Co. Cork

 

Note Name of ye No of No of
No head of family Prots. Papists

50 John Crean 0 4

[50. Corream and Kearane, now writtenn Crean and
Crane. (F) It is spelled Crean once in the list.]

 

 

Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 03:52:58 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: [Cryan et al.] South America Database
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http://www.bisa.btinternet.co.uk/layout.htm
Brits in South America Database

This data is taken from my BiSA database and was
last uploaded in April 2002 Births are listed three times to ensure the
Father, Mother or Child can be found in your search. Marriages are listed twice and a
search of the names in the database should identify a female partner if her maiden
name is known. There are now more than 10,000 names in the BiSA
database. Please contact me by E-mail if you want more
information on any name on the list below
SURNAME GIVEN NAME DATE
COUNTRY TOWN DATA SOURCE
DATA_TYPE

 

Crane E 1856
Argentina Buenos Ayres Hospital
History
Status
Crane Edward 1858
Argentina Buenos Ayres Consul Record
BA
Marriage
Crane W C 1895
Argentina Cordoba Fraile Muerto
Status
Crane Jos. 1871
Argentina Buenos Aires Medical Report
Status
Crane William 1909
Peru Hullanca Consul Record
Death
Crean 1928
Chile Punta Arenas Magellan Times
Status
Cree 1903
Peru Callao Kelly
Directory
Business

 

Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 04:09:20 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: [Cryan et al.] Thomas Crean
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ENDURANCE FAMILY MEMBERS

Richard Brodeur has been coordinating an effort
to trace descendants of the members of Shackleton's
"Endurance" expedition. He stresses that this is
a 'work in progress' and welcomes additions and
corrections. Contact him at 721 U.S. Highway One,
Suite 222, North Palm Beach, FL 33408 USA.
E-mail:
r.e.brodeur@mindspring.com

Thomas Crean (d. 1938, Anascaul, County Kerry,
Ireland). Mary (Crean) O'Brien - daughter - County Kerry,
Ireland. Brendan O'Brien - grandson - Dublin,
Ireland. Bob O'Brien - grandson - County Kerry, Ireland.
Eileen (Crean) O'Brien - daughter - County Kerry,
Ireland. Father Gerard O'Brien - grandson - Los
Angeles USA.

 

Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 06:30:08 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> | Block Address | Add to Address Book
Subject: [Cryan et al.] The Leitrim-Roscommon 1901 Census Search
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The Leitrim-Roscommon
1901 Census Search
Output for Cryan


Townland
Parish
Barony
County
Description Head of household
Surname Head of household
Given Head of household
Occupation Other occupants
Leitrim T. Kiltoghert Leitrim Leitrim Household
Cryan
John(70) farm labourer born Co.
Roscommon-Mary(65)
wife/born Co. Roscommon-John(2) gs
Oakfield Cloonfinlough Roscommon Roscommon
Household
Cryan Michael(75) farmer Mary(55)
wife-John(30)-Molly(25)
Oakfield Cloonfinlough Roscommon Roscommon
Household
Cryan Thomas(60) farmer/widower
Bridgie(28)-Laurence(26)-Nannie(18)-Martin(16)
Lisduff Tisrara Athlone Roscommon Household Cryan
Patrick(41) farmer
Maggie(37)-Kate(15)-Thomas(13)-Bridget(11)-Jane(9)-Mary
Ann(8)-Eleria(4)-Jane(83) mother
Ballyfinegan Ballintober Castlerea Roscommon
Household
Cryan James(33) farmer
Catherine(38)-Michael(13)-Patrick(12)-Delia(11)-Annie(5)-Daniel(2)
Ballyfinegan Ballintober Castlerea Roscommon
Household
Cryan Mary(62) farmer Elizabeth(28)
Knockalaghta/Sandford Ballintober Castlerea
Roscommon
Household Cryan John(60) shepherd
Katie(56)-Patrick(21)-Bridget(15)-Annie(14)-John(12)
Carnakit Baslick Castlerea Roscommon Household
Cryan
Mary(75) Anne(40)-Owen(38)
shepherd-Jane(34)-Patrick(32)-Mary Kate(16)
gd-Annie(8) gd-Sarah(4) gd
Knockalegan West Baslick Castlerea Roscommon
Household
Cryan Thomas(60) labourer
Lissalway Baslick Castlerea Roscommon Household
Cryan
James(72) farmer Mary(43)
wife-Maria(17)-James(14)-Michael(12)-Ellen(9)-Thomas(6)-Martin(4)
Tawnytaskin Boyle Boyle Roscommon Household Cryan
John(60) Farmer/married Mary(52) wife-Bridget(18)
Ballinvoher Kilnamanagh Frenchpark Roscommon
Household
Cryan Pat(57) Farmer/married Eliza(43)
wife-Michael(20)
-Bernard(19)-William(17)-Patrick(14)
scholar-John(11 )scholar-Edward(6)
scholar-Thomas(1)-Hanoria(16) scholar-Maggie(10)
scholar-Sarah(7) scholar-Molly(5) scholar
Ardmoyle Kilnamanagh Frenchpark Roscommon
Household
Cryan John(34) farmer/married Bridget(31)
wife-Kate(5mo.)
Ardmoyle Kilnamanagh Frenchpark Roscommon
Household
Cryan John(34) farmer/married Bridget(31)
wife-Kate(5mo.)
Lung Castlemore Costello Roscommon Household
Cryan
Dominick(75) shepherd
Mary(60)-Catherine(35)teacher-Lizzie(19)-James
Broderick(28)boarder-John Machaffrey(20)boarder
Carrick on Shannon T. Kiltoghert Leitrim Leitrim
Household Cryan Ellen(60) widow Mary
Ellen(27)-David
Clarke(26) boarder/solicitor/born Co.
Cavan-William
Mills(25) boarder/railway clerk-Patrick
Devanny(24)
boarder-Bernard Harrington(28) draper
asst./lodger/born Co. Cavan-George Niel(15)
lodger/draper asst.
Carrowclogher Cloonfinlough Roscommon Roscommon
Household Cryan Martin(35) farmer/not married
Maria(70) mother-Margaret(30) sister
Ballaghaderreen T. Kilcolman Costello Roscommon
Other
Cryan Martin(18) apprentice
Creggan Kilcolman Costello Roscommon Household
Cryan
Martin(58) farmer
Catherine(56)-Peter(13)-Thomas(11)-Patrick
McGarry(80)visitor-Michael Cregg(55)serv.
Boyle T./Bridge Street Boyle Boyle Roscommon Shop
Cryan John(33) Merchant/unmarried Sarah(22)
unmarried
sister visitor-Richard Feely(24) shop
asst.-Edward
Martin(15) shop asst.
Boyle T./Cootehall Street Boyle Boyle Roscommon
Household Cryan Michael(43) Corporal 5th
Conn.Rangers
Bridget(42) wife-Jane(18) dressmaker-John(17)
scholar-Bridget(15) scholar-Patrick(14)
scholar-Peter(10) scholar-Kate(7)
scholar-Eugene(5)
scholar-Francis(3)-Leo(1)
Bunnamucka Killukin Roscommon Roscommon Household
Cryan Jane(61) farmer/widow
Maggie(30)-Michael(27)
farmer-Janie(24)
Carrownamaddy Creeve Roscommon Roscommon
Household
Cryan Clare(60) widow Murty(32) son/shepherd/not
married-Honor Higgins(60) sister/not married
Corgarrow Kiltrustan Roscommon Roscommon
Household
Cryan Daniel(60) labourer Mary(58) wife
Boyle T./Mill Lane Boyle Boyle Roscommon
Household
Cryan Ellen(70) Seamstress/widow
Smutternagh Kilbryan Boyle Roscommon Household
Cryan
Bryan(70) Farmer/married Anne(60) wife-John(29)
-Mary(25)-Bridget(23)
Smutternagh Kilbryan Boyle Roscommon Household
Cryan
John(52) Farmer/widower
Hughestown Tumna Boyle Roscommon Household Cryan
Farrell(60) Shepherd/married Anne(50)
wife-John(26)
shepherd-Delia(20)
Tamlaghtavally Mohill Mohill Leitrim Household
Cryan
Patrick (37) Labourer
Mary(35)-Bridget(12)-Margaret(10)-John(7)-Peter(5)-Patrick(3)
Errironagh Ardcarn Boyle Roscommon Household
Cryan
John(55) Labourer/married Jane(54) wife-Susan(15)
scholar
Ballylugnagon Boyle Boyle Roscommon Household
Cryan
Patrick(62) Caretaker/married Mary(56) wife
Ballynanultagh Boyle Boyle Roscommon Household
Cryan
Honoria(60) Farmer/widow
James(30)-John(20)-MaryJane(18)
Kiltycreaghton Boyle Boyle Roscommon Household
Cryan
John(63) Farmer/married Catherine(60)
wife-Michael(20)
farmer-Kate(27)-John(6) nephew
Kiltycreaghton Boyle Boyle Roscommon Household
Cryan
James(50) Farmer/unmarried Bridget McElroy(38)
sister-WilliamMcElroy(40) brother in law
farmer-JohnThomas McElroy(18) nephew farmer-James
McElroy(12) nephew scholar-George McElroy(10)
nephew
scholar--BridgetB McElroy(5) niece scholar
Culleenatreen or Flagford Killummod Boyle
Roscommon
Household Cryan Patrick(40) farmer/not married
Catherine(65) mother/widow-Catherine(25) sister
Carrowreagh Killummod Boyle Roscommon Household
Cryan
Peter(47) farmer Sarah(42)-Mary
Anne(12)-Norah(10)-John(8)-Susan(7)-Patrick(5)-Sarah(1)
Carrowreagh Killummod Boyle Roscommon Household
Cryan
Michael(24) farmer/not married John(84)
father/retired
farmer-Martin(30) brother/not married-Honoria(70)
mother-Kate(36) sister/seamstress/widow
Carrowreagh Killummod Boyle Roscommon Household
Cryan
Patrick(33) farmer Kate(27) born Co.
Longford-Mary
Ellen(7)-John Joseph(5)-Annie(1)
Carrowreagh Killummod Boyle Roscommon Household
Cryan
Luke(60) shepherd Sarah(62)-Patrick(22)
Clegna Ardcarn Boyle Roscommon Household Cryan
Peter(35) farm labourer not married
Killappoge Killummod Boyle Roscommon Household
Cryan
John(63) retired teacher/married Margaret(58)
wife-MaryJane(32) unmarried/ National
Schoolteacher-Kate(25)-MaggieA(22)-Johnnie(20)-BridgetJ(17)
scholar
Carrowgallda Templemore Gallen Mayo Household
Cryan
John(59) farmer
Catherine(40)-Peter(14)-Bridget(12)-Michael(8)-Ellen(6)-Catherine(3)-Patrick(2)
Kingsland Kilnamanagh Frenchpark Roscommon
Household
Cryan Bernard(50) Farmer/unmarried
Broher/Brougher Toomour Corran Sligo Household
Cryan
Margaret(74) Farmer/widow James(31)
son/unmarried/farmer-Michael(30)
son/unmarried/shoemaker-Anne(28)
dtr./unmarried/farmer
Broher/Brougher Toomour Corran Sligo Household
Cryan
Michael(43) Farmer/married Kate(44)
wife-MaryAnne(7)
dtr./scholar
Broher/Brougher Toomour Corran Sligo Household
Cryan
Patrick(65) farm labourer/widower Mary(12)
dtr./scholar
Broher/Brougher Toomour Corran Sligo Household
Cryan
James(84) Farmer/married Agatha(67)
wife-Andrew(36)
son/unmarried
Broher/Brougher Toomour Corran Sligo Household
Cryan
John(24) Farmer/unmarried Bridget(21)
unmarried/sister/farmer
Carrowcrory Toomour Corran Sligo Household Cryan
Bridget(70) Farmer/widow Mathew(39)
son/unmarried/farmer-Mary(30)
dtr./unmarried/farmer
Carrowcrory Toomour Corran Sligo Household Cryan
John(45) Farmer/married Annie(45) wife
Carrowcrory Toomour Corran Sligo Household Cryan
Michael(80) Farmer/married Catherine(70)
wife-John(45)
son/unmarried/farmer-Winifred(27)
dtr./unmarried/farmer
Carrowcrory Toomour Corran Sligo Household Cryan
Patrick(70) Farm Labourer unmarried
Carrowcrory Toomour Corran Sligo Household Cryan
Mary(85) Housekeeper/widow John(62)
son/married/farmer- Bridget(56) dtr. in
law/housekeeper-Pat(21) gs/farm labourer-Mary(16)
gd
housekeeper
Carrowcrory Toomour Corran Sligo Household Cryan
Mary(65) Farmer/widow Michael(28)
son/unmarried/farmer
Ballinlag Bohola Gallen Mayo Household Cryan
Thomas(30) farmer
Nora(28)-Michael(6)-Thomas(5)-Delia(3)-Patrick(1)-Thomas(90)
father/widower-Bridget Corrigan(65) visitor/widow
Lismiraun Bohola Gallen Mayo Household Cryan
Mary(39)
farmer/married Thomas(9)-Patrick(7)-Michael(3)
Cloonfeightrin Kilturra Costello Mayo Household
Cryan
Pat(58) farmer Mary(58)-Pat(22)
Derrygolagh Toomour Corran Sligo Household Cryan
Patrick(63) Farmer/married Mary(53)
wife-Bridget(22)
dtr./not married-Patrick(19) son/not
married-Thomas(17) son/not married
Derrygolagh Toomour Corran Sligo Household Cryan
Secilia/Cecilia(69) Farmer/widow Bridget(42)
dtr.-Norah(26) dtr.-both not married
Derrygolagh Toomour Corran Sligo Household Cryan
Martin(85) Weaver widower
Derrygolagh Toomour Corran Sligo Household Cryan
Patrick(75) Farmer/widower John(35)
son/married-Ellener(25) dtr. in law -James(30)
son/not
married
Derrygolagh Toomour Corran Sligo Household Cryan
Mathew(70) Farmer/married Catherine(60)
wife-Mathew(30) son/not married-Kate(26) dtr./not
married/seamstress
Derrygolagh Toomour Corran Sligo Household Cryan
Patrick(66) Farmer/married Anne(55) wife-John(27)
son/not married-James(23) son/not
married-Rodger(20)
son/not married-Jane(14) d tr./scholar-Anne(12)
dtr./scholar
Tully Toomour Corran Sligo Household Cryan
Michael(44)
Farmer/married Margaret(30) wife-MaryE(5)
dtr.-Margaret(3) dtr.-Dan(2) son-Beesy(40)
sister/not
married/farmer
Tully Toomour Corran Sligo Household Cryan
Michael(19)
farmer/not married Jane(22) sister/not
married-Elizabeth(17) sister-Daniel(15)
brother/scholar-Joseph(12) brother/scholar
Knocknaskeagh Kilfree Coolavin Sligo Household
Cryan
Martin(40) Farmer/unmarried Maria(35) sister/not
married/housekeeper-Lawrence Toolan(14)
nephew/scholar
Knocknaskeagh Kilfree Coolavin Sligo Household
Cryan
Michael(48) farmer/married MaryAnne(30)
wife-Patrick(4) son-Patrick Ginty(18) servant/not
married-Winifred Doughall(12) servant
Seefin Kilfree Coolavin Sligo Household Cryan
Pat(56)
Farmer/married Alice(46) wife-John(24) son/not
married/railway workman-Mary(14)
dtr./scholar-Joe(12)
son/scholar-James(10) son/scholar-Michael(8)
son/scholar-Edward(5) son/scholar
Seefin Kilfree Coolavin Sligo Household Cryan
Pat(48)
Farmer/married Maria(36) wife-Mary(15)
dtr./scholar-Ellen(13) dtr./scholar-James(11)
son/scholar-Michael(9) son/scholar-Bridget(7)
dtr./scholar-Pat(4) son-Agnes(1) dtr.
Seefin Kilfree Coolavin Sligo Household Cryan
Pat(35)
Farmer/married Maria(21) wife-Mary(70)
mother/widow
-Maggie Taylor(7) lodger/scholar
Seefin Kilfree Coolavin Sligo Household Cryan
Michael(85) Retired Farmer/widower
Kilsallagh Drumrat Corran Sligo Household Cryan
Mary(65) Cook/DomesticServant widow
Kilsallagh Drumrat Corran Sligo Household Cryan
Thomas(54) Farmer/married Margaret(50)
wife-James(27)
son/not married-Mary(20) dtr./not
married-Patrick(13)
son/scholar
Tonaponra Toomour Corran Sligo Household Cryan
John(56) Farmer/married Mary(50) wife-John(25)
son/not
married-MaryAnne(22) dtr./not married-Henry(15)
son/scholar-Delia(13) dtr./scholar-Norah(4)
dtr./scholar
Clogher Kilcolman Coolavin Sligo Household Cryan
Thomas(54) Land Steward/married Hanoria(38)
wife/housekeeper-Mary(15) dtr./scholar-John(13)
son/scholar-William(11) son/scholar-Tommy(6)
son/scholar-BridgetP(8mths) dtr.
Clogher Kilcolman Coolavin Sligo Household Cryan
Thomas(33) Farmer/married Bridget(26)
wife-John(4)
son-James(3) son-Catherine(1) dtr.
Clogher Kilcolman Coolavin Sligo Household Cryan
John(65) Labourer/widower Michael(22) son tea
dealer
Falleens Kilcolman Coolavin Sligo Household Cryan
John(65) Farmer/married Margaret(59)
wife-Thomas(28)
son/not married-Maggie(25) dtr./not married
Falleens Kilcolman Coolavin Sligo Household Cryan
Winnifred(76) Farmer/widow Michael(46)
son/widower-Pat(12) gs/scholar-Thomas(10)
gs/scholar-Mary(8) gd/scholar
Sroove Kilcolman Coolavin Sligo Household Cryan
John(50) Farmer/married Nora(50) wife-Nora
Lydon(24)
dtr./married-James(16) son
Sroove Kilcolman Coolavin Sligo Household Cryan
Thomas(48) National Teacher/married Mary(45) wife
National Teacher-Thomas(16)
son/scholar-Robert(12)
son/scholar-Catherine Casey(32) visitor/not
married/National Teacher
Moygara Kilfree Coolavin Sligo Household Cryan
Patrick(46) Farmer/married MaryAnne(43)
wife/housekeeper-Kate(17) dtr.-MaryAnne(16)
dtr.-Thomas(15) son-Winnie(14) dtr.-Patrick(13)
son/scholar-James(11) son/scholar-John(9)
son/scholar-Bridget(8) dtr./scholar-Jane(7)
dtr./scholar-Nora(6) dtr./scholar-Domnick(5)
son-Michael(4) son-Bernard(2) son
Mullaghroe Kilfree Coolavin Sligo Household Cryan
James(44) Farmer/married Mary(50) wife-Maggie(8)
dtr./scholar
Cloonlaheen Kilfree Coolavin Sligo Household
Cryan
Luke(40) Labourer/married Catherine(40) wife
Ardraheen More Kilshalvy Corran Sligo Household
Cryan
Michael(40) herdsman/not married Bridget
Beggly(20)
niece/housekeeper/not married
Cloonacaltry Drumrat Corran Sligo Household Cryan
Patrick(50) Shepherd/married Catherine(50)
wife-MaryAnne(17) dtr./not married-Kate(15)
dtr./not
married-Patrick(13) son/scholar-John(11)
son/scholar-Anne Higgins(60) relative/not
married/farmer
Daghloonagh Drumrat Corran Sligo Household Cryan
James(35) Farmer/married Mary(35)
wife-Bridget(12)
dtr.-Kate(11) dtr.-John(10) son
Knockbrack Drumrat Corran Sligo Household Cryan
Patrick(52) Caretaker/married Anne(50)
wife/caretaker-John(15) son/scholar
Carrowreagh Toomour Corran Sligo Public House
Cryan
Martin(47) Farmer/married Maggie(32)
wife-Mathew(13)
son/scholar-Thomas(11) son/scholar-Bridget(4)
dtr./scholar-Mary(9) dtr./scholar-Martin(2)
son-John
Hannon(84) boarder/married/farm labourer-Michael
McDonagh(86) relative/widower/farm
labourer-Joseph
Walsh(19) relative/farmer
Cloonbard Baslick Castlerea Roscommon Household
Cryanes Ellen(41) farmer John(17)-Michael(15)
Drumshanbo South Cloone Mohill Leitrim Household
McRyan Peter (50) Farmer Mary(55)-Ellen(25)
91 Total Matches

Please forward any questions or comments
regarding the
census data to Roger McDonnell at
rmcdonn@erols.com

 

Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 06:40:56 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> | Block Address | Add to Address Book
Subject: [Cryan et al.] Juries in Sligo/O Creans in late 1500s
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Lots of O Creans here....

Member of juries in Sligo
County Sligo, Ireland

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Chancery inquisitions....Reign of Elizabeth I

 

August 1587

* Johannes Creygan deSligahg
* Willn fitz Creygan deeadem
* Phelim O'Hart deArdtermon
* Owinus O'Connor
* Donaldus O'Hart desligagh
* Dowaltagh
* McSwyne delongforde
* Ferrall McDonoghe de ....ulloyne
* WalterusCra ....Crean ce Sligo
* Donaldus .......de Downalli
* Donatius......
* Barnardus O'Harte
* Albanus McSwyne de longford

 

December 1587

* Georgius Godman de Teatemple
* Owny O'MulloydeArdcullen
* Teo,ghe, O'Dowde de Eskerowen
* Morish Reagh, McDonough de Clounemaly
* Richardus O'Dogher, tie, de Eskerowen
* Callagh O'Connorde grange
* Hu, gh, McDonough de ballyonoghan
* DermotMcDonough de, Tullemohy, Molmory O'Donell
de
Rosselley
* Shane O'Connor McFargananym de Scardane
* Dowaltagh Roe McSwyne de Longf, orde
* Comock McDonogh de Lisleale/Lisleah
* Allen Albanagh de Ra, liewer
* Brian Oge O'Higgin de, Cuttyvane
* Enreas,e O'Connor McParson de
Droma...Dromerclere
* Willm Tafe de Bonomdane

 

Another in 1587

* All names the same
* except Dowaltagh Roe McSwyne

 

October 1587

* Walterus O'Crean de Sligo
* Roricus O'Hart de Artemon
* Jacobus McSwyne de Donoghentrany
* Alanus Albanagh de Ralee
* Barnadus O'Dowde de Iskerown
* Malachaias McDomogh de Cooloony
* Barnardus McSwyne de Ardneglasse
* Donordus O'Crean de Slygo
* Patritus O'Hard de Bradcullen
* Andreas O'Connor de Dromclewe
* Hubert Albanagh de Ralee
* Malachais McDonogh de Ballendowen

 

Circa 1590

* Phelemei O'Connor de Skardane
* Donogh McConnor O'Harte de Artermon
* Owiny McGila Duffe de Clonedelrane
* Pricii McNeile O'Harte de Bradkillen
* Hugomus McGille Duffe de......
* Brian O'Dowde de inisrowen
* .......Albanagh de Ralee
* Owen McDermott de Ballyne
* Con McLyngh de Brycklieve
* Melaghlane McMulrony de Corrlevin
* Manes Raigh Mctumulty de rathmollyn
* Erryl O'Gare de moygarie
* Rory Bellagh O'Hart de Ardtermon
* Ferral M'Dowalty de tullenmoyle

 

March 27 1584

* Rich Dohertyde ballymote
* Melaghlin, Malachias McDonogh de Ballidown
* Cahall McDye de Aghanagh
* Morris mcDonogh de Clonmahyn
* Jac O'Crean de Slygo
* Manus Reogh deLyssecunne
* Tomult O'Skanlan de Portynch
* Teif Dall O'Higgin de Doughome
* Melaghlin McDonogh de Coloony
* Bryan McMulrony de Grangemore, Coolavin
* Ennes McMy, McNeny de kyllen
* Mulmury O'Dugenan de Shencho
* Ferfessa O'Dugenean de Shenco
* Walter Crean de slygo
* Phelym O'Connor de Scardan
* Johannus O'Crean de Slygo

 

March 17 1584

* Dogherty
* the 2 Melaghlin McDonoghs
* the 3 O'Creans
* McNey
* McMulrony and Ferfessa O'Dugenean were joined
by
* *****Shane McFerganainn de scardan
* *****Enreas O'Connor de Derrynicleive
* *****Teige O'Harte de Grandge
* *****Con MChugh de brickleive Bryan O'Goan de
tawnagh

 

same day

* Doherty
* McMulrony
* F. O"Dugenan
* the 3 O'Creans were joined by
* *****Cahall McDye
* *****manus McConnor Oge de Ballendowne
* *****mauritius mcDonogh de Clonimahin
* *****Mulmurry O'Dowgenan, ODugenan
* *****Teig Dall O'Higgins
* *****Tumulto Oge O'Skanlan de Portich
* *****Owen Skanlan de Radowne

 

same day

All of the above, saving Bryan McMulrony were
joined
by

* Manus Reogh McDonogh of Rathmullin
* Ferall Kewghe O'Menaghan de Ead
* Manus Reogh McTeig Boy de Lesscan
* Jac. McSwyne de cowncaffe
* Barnardus Marianus de Grangmore
* Phelim O'Connor de Scardan

 

In 1588, other called to jusry include

* Thaddeus O'Hara of Tully
* Vahall McMulrony of Roscribbe
* Martinus Lyle of Ballykikerre
* Thaddeus McNemy of Ballycottell
* Hugh O'Connor of Ballindrehid
* Teige Reogh McDonogh of Lysley
* Dermot O'Hely of Castle Logh Dargyn
* Dowaltogh O'Connor Deleghvally
* Gillechrist McDonogh de Roscribbe
* Inill O'Gary, alias O'Gary de Moygh, Irriel
O'Gara
of Maygara, Coolavin
* Brian Ulragh O'Connor of Dowbally
* Melaghlin McDonogh of Ballendowne
* Rory O'Gary, Ogara,of Carrow Reagh

 

 

Contributor:

John Garrah

jpgar@ptd.net

 

 

 

Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 06:51:31 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> | Block Address | Add to Address Book
Subject: [Cryan et al.] SLIGO TITHE APPLOTMENT BOOKs -Creans/Crane
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SLIGO
TITHE APPLOTMENT BOOK
Diocese of Killala, Parish of Easky, County Sligo
http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlsli/index2.html

The following is a listing of the owners and
landholders of the various townlands and farms in
the
parish of Easky, County Sligo, as noted by a
government survey conducted about 1833. The farms
were
numbered (to 434) by the surveyor, except for 41
farms
in Ballymeeny for which, apparently, the final
calculations were not made until 1842. Thus, in
1833,
Easky parish was divided into 475 individual
plots of
land.

Ballymeeny - The Property of Edward Howly,
Esquire
Anthony Crean
Oliver Crane and Patt White

 

 

 

SLIGO
TITHE APPLOTMENT BOOK
Diocese of Killala, Parish of Easky, County Sligo

The following is a listing of the owners and
landholders of the various townlands and farms in
the
parish of Easky, County Sligo, as noted by a
government survey conducted about 1833. The farms
were
numbered (to 434) by the surveyor, except for 41
farms
in Ballymeeny for which, apparently, the final
calculations were not made until 1842. Thus, in
1833,
Easky parish was divided into 475 individual
plots of
land.

Moonrevagh - The Estate of the Countess Dowager
of
CastleStuart

 

* 293. Lawrence Conmee, James Crean

Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 07:02:19 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> | Block Address | Add to Address Book
Subject: [Cryan et al.] CHRISTINA CRYAN/ dancer
To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
http://www.ridance.com/cryan.html

CHRISTINA CRYAN
November 3, 1953 - February 4, 2002

Long-time Rhode Island ballroom promoter, coach
and
dance teacher Christina Cryan lost her fight with
breast cancer February 04 at Sturdy Memorial
Hospital
in Attleboro.

She was one of nine children born to Ruth and
Walter
(the well-known newscaster) Cryan . She graduated
from
Attleboro High School and Dean Junior College in
Franklin Massachusetts and married (and divorced)
twice, first to Robert Girard and then to Randy
Deats.

Christina was a wonderful dancer; somehow melting
into
the movement while at the same time bringing a
joy and
energy to each dance that was all her own. She
had
taught Ballroom Dance since 1977 and competed in
many
world class dance competitions garnering numerous
first place awards and ultimately achieving the
title
of Rising Star International Latin Champion. She
was
an active member of the Dance Teachers' Club of
Boston
and the National Dance Council of America. She
served
as a professional advisor to the Rhode Island
State
Games Ballroom Dance Competition and the
Fairhaven
Ballroom Dance Competition as well as coached the
Brown University Ballroom Dance Team, a position
she
had held since 1993, to various awards in
England,
Bermuda and Florida. She was the organizer of the
Annual Brown University Intercollegiate Ballroom
Dance
Competition (the largest intercollegiate dance
competition in the Northeast) and the Winter Ball
held
every year at the Biltmore.

As a young girl she studied tap dancing, but did
not
pursue it, starting her dance training and
teaching as
an adult with Pat and George Lawton who ran the
Arthur
Murray Dance Studio. There she started dancing
with
Randy Deats. They traveled to London where they
trained with numerous coaches, including Nina
Hunt,
Alan and Hazel Fletcher, Donnie Burns, Peter
Eggleton,
and John DelRoy. Back in the United States they
continued training with Jim Donaghey and Judi
Hatton,
John Hatton, Sam Sodano, and Ron Montez among
others.
In 1983, she and Randy founded The Dancin'
Feelin' in
Cranston - an audacious act, as at the time, the
Arthur Murray Dance Studio was located a stone's
throw
away. Dancin' Feelin' went on to do very well and
is
still in operation today under Randy's direction.
She
also co-founded The Dance Factory Studio in
Westerly.

In Rhode Island, she was probably best known for
her
very popular group ballroom classes in
Providence,
Cranston and East Greenwich which were legendary
for
their size, the amazing energy Christina brought
to
the classes (which she always ascribed to her
students) and the wonderful teaching abilities
she
used to such good effect for ballroom dance.

 

 

Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 07:03:22 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> | Block Address | Add to Address Book
Subject: [Cryan et al.] Detective Cryan
To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
http://www.seacoastonline.com/news/yorkweekly/yw4_3d.htm

Detective Cryan awarded title of country's top
cop
By Larry Favinger, yorkweekly@seacoastonline.com
Detective Thomas Cryan Jr., of the York Police
Department, has been named the police officer of
the
year by the National Association of Chiefs of
Police
(NACP), for the honor and bravery he has brought
to
the entire law enforcement community.
The full title of the award is prestigious
indeed.
Cryan is the recipient of the Knight Commander
Award
of the Order of Michael the Archangel Police
Legion.
York native George Vuilleumier, president of the
NACP,
nominated Cryan for the honor. The detective will
receive his award at a special ceremony in
Florida in
May. During the event, the 71 officers who died
in the
terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center on
Sept.
11 will be honored as the outstanding law
enforcement
officers of 2002.
"I'm shocked," Cryan said of his award. "It's
great.
I'm thrilled. It's a reflection on the department
as a
whole, not just me. It's nice to be recognized
for the
work you do."
Cryan is being cited for his work in the capture
of
three South Boston men wanted in connection with
a
series of robberies committed in York in 2000,
including one at the Jewelry Mine.
His work on the case has already been cited with
his
induction into the American Police Hall of Fame
and an
Investigative Achievement Award from the Chiefs
of
Police.
York Police Chief Doug Bracy said Cryan is being
honored for his "overall contribution to law
enforcement" by taking "some very bad people off
the
street" and for his consistent efforts "to see to
the
needs of the victims" in the crimes that he
investigates.
Bracy said awards of this kind are important to
those
in law enforcement, a profession in which "you
don't
always get a lot of thanks" for what is done. The
award underscores that fact "we do make a
difference"
and that is "important to us," the chief added.
"Every member of this department has a certain
amount
of pride in Tom's recognition," Bracy said.
In June of 2001 York's American Legion Post
lauded
Cryan with the Law Enforcement Officer of the
Year
Award for his work on the case. Cryan, a Lowell,
Mass., native, who now lives in York with his
wife and
children, has been a local police officer since
Sept.
11, 1989.
According to authorities, in the summer of 2000,
the
three wanted Massachusetts men, Paul F. Devlin,
John
J. Lydon and Richard E. McDougall Jr., stole a
cash
register from the Grand View Motel on Long Beach
Avenue before hitting the Jewelry Mine in the
Long
Sands Plaza. There, they held the store clerks at
gunpoint and tied them up before taking off with
an
undisclosed amount of merchandise.
Later that same day, authorities said the men
broke
into a York couple's home and took cash and
credit
cards. The suspects then fled Maine, prompting
Cryan
to collaborate with law enforcement officers
across
the country to launch an international manhunt
for the
suspects.
McDougall was apprehended in Tucson, Ariz., and
returned to Maine to stand trial. Lydon and
Devlin
were captured in California, after attempting to
kill
a Santa Monica man who crossed their path as they
fled
from authorities.
McDougall is now serving a 12-year term in
Maine's
maximum-security prison in Warren; Lydon and
Devlin
are each serving life sentences in separate
California
penitentiaries.
Seacoast Newspapers reporters Nancy Cicco and Amy
Wallace contributed to this report.

 

 Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 07:33:35 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com
Subject: [Cryan et al.] most recent references from Ros. Her.
Roscommon Herald 1882

4 feb 1882
drumlion
sustentation fund
peter john luke and widow cryan
m.

18 feb 1882 p4
Boyle Board of Guardians
The seed rate
Cryanstown
art

25 feb 1882
keash
sustentation fund
derrygoola- mathew pat patrick
broher -tom pat dominick james
carrowcrory - john j. j. mathew
derrynasheagh -p. mathew
templevanny - dan pat
carrowre.... - martin martin snr
drumnagranshee- john
all cryans above
m.

20 may20 may 1882
Boyle presentment Sessions
John Cryan Cesspayer
m
also
ladies league
corrykenroe
miss kate cryan
m

3 jun 1882
shepherds demonstration at ballinagar
owen cryan
m

4 nov 1882p3
the homicide of Thomas hunt
cryans of ballinultha
art

18 nov 1882
derrygoolah
tenants Mathew and pat cryan
m

23 dec 1882
connaught winter assizes
charge of murder [Thomas kennedy]
witnesses cryans of ballinultagh
art

fin

Roscommon Herald 1883

24 feb 1883
Boyle borough court
intimidating a crown witness
mrs cryan of ballinultagh
art

 

 

1903

24 oct 1903
p1
[Drawing of Pat Hourican]

also
The King-Harmon Tenants
V Rev Canon Lowry
J M Cryan
art

also
p6
Boyle Quarter Sessions
Thursday
Ownership of a Stream
Martin Cryan of Cregane
art

7 nov
p7
Subland Commission Court in Boyle
5th col
Cryan vs same
James and Honoria Cryan
art

14 nov
p2
[Marriage of Coothall lady in Manchester
Catherine Judge daughter of mr and mrs Judge]
art

also
p3
Boyle No 1 District
3rd col
Deferred Payments
Mr Cryan
art

fin

 

 

Roscommon Herald 1904

27 feb
Dr Crean
Bawnboy Union
Co Cavan
m

23 apr
p2
Boyle Town Commissioners
1 The Exhibition Question
2 National Convention
art

cryan-l@rootsweb.com
Roscommon Herald Articles No. 70
7 may
p4
News in Brief
On Friday evening of last week whilst a farmer
named
Thomas Cryan of Oakfield was proceeding to his
home
from Strokestown market he took suddenly ill and
died
a short time afterwards.

18 jun
p1
[Soldiers and Irish language]
art

25 jun
p6
Mullaghroe Petty Sessions
Co Sligo
Threatening Language
Thomas Cryan and wife Hanoria
Steward on Coolavin Estate
art

2 jul
p8
Sligo Union
H Cryan
Coal contract
art

16 jul
p3
Roscommon Assizes
A Boyle TC
Mr John Cryan TC
ART

20 aug
[Clippings for the papers
Waterford
Disinterred for a kiss]
art

20 aug
p1
cartoon
[An Oratorical Pose Councillor Waters]

10 sep
p1
cartoon
[A thing seen at the Sligo Boardrooms
councillor waters]
art

1 oct
p1
[A surprise visit from Mr Martin Waters]
cartoon

8 oct
p2
Boyle Union
The Salaries
J Cryan
art

oct 29
p1
cartoon
Ballinamore Quarter Sessions
Hugh Creegan
Cloone

5 nov
p1
[Unsuppressible Martin Waters]
cartoon

12 nov
p3
Late Canon Nangle
Croghan
art

10 dec
p1
cartoon
Mr Gibbons
Roscommon town

fin

Roscommon Herald 1905

 

1905 25 jan
Boyle Quarter Sessions
3rd col
Malicious injury
Pat Cryan Carrowreagh
art
also 6th col
A Ballybane Suit
Darby Crann
art

11 feb
Presentation Brothers Schools
Children in School Choir
Peter and Eugene Cryan
m

18 feb
News in Brief page
Cartoon
and
Story of Dr Hyde
art

15 apr
Ballinamore Quarter Sessions
Wednesday
Creegan vs Clem....
art

cryan-l@rootsweb.com
Roscommon Herald Articles No. 71
29 apr
Died Cryan - On April 24th 1905 at his residence
in
Carrowcrory Michl Cryan.
Aged 86. Deeply regretted by his sorrowing family
RIP.

 

Also
Obituary
Same page as Clippings form the Papers
Death of Mr M Cryan father of JM Cryan JP
chairman of
Boyle No2 Council
art

May 6
Boyle No 1 District Nominations
Ballyfarnon
Denis Cryan
m

3 jun
Boyle Quarter Sessions
MONDAY
Alleged tresspass
Peter Cryan Bailiff on Mrs Caddells Estate
m
also
News in Brief
Co Sligo
JM Cryan chairman re elected for the 5 th time
m

24 jun
p1 cartoon Pat Breheny]

 

cryan-l@rootsweb.com
Roscommon Herald Articles No. 72
15 Jul
Boyle Petty Sessions
Disorderly Constable McGarry had James Cryan of
Mullaghroe summoned
for being drunk and disorderly. The constable
said
Cryans conduct was bad
but he was a quiet man when sober. He resisted
arrest
and when a constable
in plain clothes came to his assistance, Cryan
knocked
off his hat and broke it.
He was fined 7s 6d.

5 aug
[Clippings Act of Vandalism Clonmacnoise art]

12 aug
News in Brief page
last col
Sudden Death Michael Cryan Dockloonagh
art

2 sep
Ballaghdereen Petty Sessions
Series of Assaults
1st col
art
next page
Mullaghroe Petty Sessions
Row About a Pass
Thomas Cryan Clogher
art

9 sep
p1
hugh Cryan
drawing

30 sep 1905
[News in Brief page
last col
Irish names on carts art]

7 oct 1905
9th col
News in Brief page
obituary
Thomas Cryan Townaghbrack NS Ballaghdereen
art

14 oct
News in Brief page
Elections of Petty Sessions Clerk
JM Cryan JP
ART
also
Boyle Elections Petitions
Mr Jones Oates
AND
Mr Cryan
articles

21 oct 1905
Clippings page
Sligo Union
The Suspended Porter
and
The Milk
H Cryan
art

28 oct 1905
p1
convicted 11
Cryan
drawing
also
Clippings page
Boyle Quarter Sessions
A Clogher Case
Thomas Cryan
art
[ends at Tarmonbarry case]

[11 nov 1905
p2
Strokestown Petty Sessions
Irish Names on CARTS
ART]

[18 nov 1905
Roosky Petty Sessions
THe Irish Language art]

Roscommon Herald 1908

21 mar 1908
Johnny Cryan
drawing

20 jun 1908
John Cryan JP
drawing

25 jul 1908
John Cryan Boyle
drawing

25 jul 1908
pat early
drawing

26 sep 1908
John Cryan
drawing

14 nov 1908
Peter Cryan Bailiff Caddell Est
drawing

Roscommon Herald 1909

 

2 oct 1909
James Cryan Ballinamore
drawing

6 nov 1909
Luke Cryan Caddell Est
drawing

13 nov 1909
Darby Crann Leam
drawing

25 dec 1909
Martin Cryan Caddell Est
drawing

Roscommon Herald 1910

 

16 apr 1910
waters
drawing

15 oct 1910
Peter Cryan Bailiff Caddell Est
drawing

Roscommon Herald 1912

 

21 sep 1912
Peter Cryan sub agent Caddell Est
drawing

28 sep 1912
Bally mote court John Cryan Derrygoola
drawing

19 oct 1912
Martin Coleman Ballaghdereen
drawing

30 nov 1912
P Cryan Ballymote
drawing

 

Roscommon Herald 1913

 

11jan 1913
Cassidys Castle
foto
Bog hovel

18 jan 1913
carolans chair
foto

25 Jan 1913
Martin cryan cregganee
drawing
boyle quarter sessions plaitaiff

3 may 1913
foto
trustees john cryan
bad quality

2 aug 1913
fotos no 6
john cryan jp
carrowcrory
good qual

18 aug 1913
John coleman
owner of prop in ballaghdereen
p1
drawing

Roscommon Herald 1914
24 oct 1903
p1
[Drawing of Pat Hourican]

also
The King-Harmon Tenants
V Rev Canon Lowry
J M Cryan
art

also
p6
Boyle Quarter Sessions
Thursday
Ownership of a Stream
Martin Cryan of Cregane
art

7 nov
p7
Subland Commission Court in Boyle
5th col
Cryan vs same
James and Honoria Cryan
art

14 nov
p2
[Marriage of Coothall lady in Manchester
Catherine Judge daughter of mr and mrs Judge]
art

also
p3
Boyle No 1 District
3rd col
Deferred Payments
Mr Cryan
art

fin
Roscommon Herald 1915
22 may 1915 p1
foto
ok qual
co leitrim football team
j cryan

6 nov 1915 p1
a call to 50000 irishmen

 

Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 06:04:47 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> | Block Address | Add to Address Book
Subject: [Cryan et al.] cryan and variants - 1848-64 and 1890 distribution
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Primary Valuation property survey of 1848-64.

Variants and all-Ireland totals -
SURNAME TOTAL
Creahan 8 *
Creahane 4 *
Crean 172 *
Creane 108 *
Creehan 10 *
Creen 22 *
Creene 2 *
Crehan 64 *
Crehane 8 *
Crehen 2 *

 

The table below shows the number of Crehen
households
in each county in the Primary Valuation property
survey of 1848-64.
Clare 1 Limerick 1

The table below shows the number of Crehane
households
in each county in the Primary Valuation property
survey of 1848-64.
Clare 2 Cork 1
Galway 5

The table below shows the number of Crehan
households
in each county in the Primary Valuation property
survey of 1848-64.
Clare 8 Cork 2
Galway 49 Limerick 3
Meath 1 Tipperary 1

The table below shows the number of Creene
households
in each county in the Primary Valuation property
survey of 1848-64.
Galway 1 Sligo 1

The table below shows the number of Creen
households
in each county in the Primary Valuation property
survey of 1848-64.
Belfast city 4 Down 16
Roscommon 2

The table below shows the number of Crean
households
in each county in the Primary Valuation property
survey of 1848-64.

Belfast city 2 Cork 22
Cork city 8 Derry 1
Dublin 4 Dublin city 2
Fermanagh 1 Galway 5
Kerry 37 Limerick 2
Longford 4 Mayo 23
Meath 3 Monaghan 2
Roscommon 15 Sligo 9
Tipperary 3 Tyrone 2
Waterford 5 Wexford 19
Wicklow 3

The table below shows the number of Creehan
households
in each county in the Primary Valuation property
survey of 1848-64.
Cavan 1 Clare 4
Cork 1 Galway 2
Monaghan 1 Tyrone 1

The table below shows the number of Creane
households
in each county in the Primary Valuation property
survey of 1848-64.
Cork 14 Cork city 1
Galway 18 Kerry 8
Kilkenny 1 Laois 1
Mayo 24 Meath 1
Roscommon 1 Sligo 12
Tipperary 5 Tyrone 1
Waterford 1 Wexford 20

The table below shows the number of Creahan
households
in each county in the Primary Valuation property
survey of 1848-64.
Armagh 1 Galway 4
Limerick 3

The table below shows the number of Creahane
households in each county in the Primary
Valuation
property survey of 1848-64.
Clare 4

SURNAME DICTIONARY/ SLOINNTE NA h-EIREANN

Creane numerous: Cork-Kerry, Wexford,
Mayo-Roscommon,
Ulster. Ir. Ó Corraidhín, Curraoin, (Munster &
Wexford); Ó Croidheáin, (Connacht & Ulster). Also
can
stand for Ó Criocháin & Ó Corráin. See also
Crehan. SI
& IF.
Crehan Quite numerous: Galway-Mayo-Roscommon and
Limerick-Kerry-Clare. Ir. Ó Croidheáin in
Connacht; in
Munster it is synonymous with Crean, q.v., itself
derived from Curreen so Ir. Ó Corraidhín,
Curraoin.
See also Ó Creacháin.
Mac Corraidhin Crean, Curran & rl.: líon beag:
Connachta thuaidh. Clann de chuid Uí Fiachrach in
anallód. Tá Mag Corraidhin orthu leis an ngalldú
Mac
Gurren,-in agus iad suite i mBreifne & Fear
Manach.SI.
Ó Corraidhin Crean, Curran & rl. tá na sloinnte
galldaithe measctha idir Ó Corráin, Mac
Corraidhin & Ó
Curraoin, q.v. Táid líonmhar ar fud na Mumhan & i
gConnacht; tá Crean le fáil i gCiarraí, Corcaigh
agus
i Maigh Eo-Ros Comáin. Níl an bhrí soiléir -
b'fhéidir, corra = sleá.
Ó Curraoin Crean: annamh: Na Déise (Port Lairge).
Gan
an "Ó" de ghnáth. Féach Ó Corraidhín
Ó Curraoin rare: Galway etc. Ir.Lang. See Crean
and
Curran.

1890 BIRTHS DISTRIBUTION

Based on Matheson's Special Report on Surnames in
Ireland (1909), which records the principal
locations
of birth registrations for surnames in 1890. Only
surnames with more than five registrations are
included.

Crean
DISTRIBUTION

Leinster 4
Munster 16
Connacht 7
Ulster 0
MOST COMMON IN COUNTIES
Cork
Kerry
Wexford

Primary Valuation property survey of 1848-64.

Variants and all-Ireland totals - Click on one to
see
the numbers by county..
SURNAME TOTAL
Crien 2 *
Crine 5 *
Crines 3 *
Cryan 96 *
Cryne 9 *
Krine 4 *
McCrine 2 *

The table below shows the number of McCrine
households
in each county in the Primary Valuation property
survey of 1848-64.
Leitrim 2

The table below shows the number of Krine
households
in each county in the Primary Valuation property
survey of 1848-64.
Galway 4

The table below shows the number of Cryne
households
in each county in the Primary Valuation property
survey of 1848-64.
Roscommon 5 Sligo 4

The table below shows the number of Cryan
households
in each county in the Primary Valuation property
survey of 1848-64.
Leitrim 2 Longford 1
Mayo 4 Roscommon 31
Sligo 58

The table below shows the number of Crines
households
in each county in the Primary Valuation property
survey of 1848-64.
Sligo 3

The table below shows the number of Crine
households
in each county in the Primary Valuation property
survey of 1848-64.
Down 1 Roscommon 3
Sligo 1

The table below shows the number of Crien
households
in each county in the Primary Valuation property
survey of 1848-64.
Sligo 2

The table below shows the number of cryan
households
in each county in the Primary Valuation property
survey of 1848-64.
Leitrim 2 Longford 1
Mayo 4 Roscommon 31
Sligo 58

1890 BIRTHS DISTRIBUTION
Based on Matheson's Special Report on Surnames in
Ireland (1909), which records the principal
locations
of birth registrations for surnames in 1890. Only
surnames with more than five registrations are
included.

Cryan

DISTRIBUTION

Leinster 0
Munster 0
Connacht 15
Ulster 0

MOST COMMON IN COUNTIES
Roscommon

Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 04:29:20 -0700 (PDT)
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Contrib(s)
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Deaths Mar 1838
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CRYAN Charles Manchester 20 467 Cherrytree
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Births Sep 1838
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Cryan Mary Manchester 20 561 jonga
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Marriages Mar 1840
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CRYAN Mary Ashton under Lyne 20 3 rpeeples
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Marriages Sep 1840
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CRYAN Mary Manchester 20 422 Ron_Birchall
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Deaths Jun 1844
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Cryan Phillip Camberwell 4 55 TMeighan
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Marriages Jun 1845
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Cryan Bridget Manchester 20 779 TAGD
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Births Mar 1850
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Cryan Joseph Chorlton 20 158 lynnenz
Cryan Edward Manchester 20 4* lynnenz
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Marriages Mar 1851
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CRYAN MICHAEL W DERBY 20 897 LynB MJMcC
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Marriages Mar 1852
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Cryan Michael Chorlton 8c 567 djbm995
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Marriages Jun 1853
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Cryan James Manchester 8d 675 sandrews
Cryan John Manchester 8d 676 sandrews
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Births Sep 1853
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Cryan John Ashton 8d 429 lindajsmith
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Marriages Mar 1854
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Cryan Hannah Manchester 8d 578 grego_a
Cryan Mary Liverpool 8b 16 grego_a
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Marriages Sep 1854
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Cryan Andrew Ashton 8d 711 Dvina
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Marriages Dec 1854
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Cryan James Bolton 8c 432 steve149
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Marriages Mar 1859
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Cryan Bridget Northwich 8a 293 RHarper
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Births Dec 1860
------------------------------------------------------------------------
CRYAN Caroline Chorlton 8c 572 wydinya
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Births Jun 1861
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CRYAN James Ashton 8d 474 shell_2001
CRYAN Martin Mansfield 7b 54 shell_2001
CRYAN Edwin Devizes 5a 100 shell_2001
CRYAN George Chipping S 6a 160 shell_2001
CRYAN Harriet Rochdale 8e 75 shell_2001
CRYAN James Bury 8c 453 shell_2001
CRYAN James Ross Lutterworth 7a 1 shell_2001
CRYAN John Haslingden 8e 99 shell_2001
CRYAN Joseph Hayfield 7b 642 shell_2001
CRYAN Mary Sheffield 9c 373 shell_2001
CRYAN Sarah Ellen Rochdale 8e 82 shell_2001
CRYAN Sarah Jane Rugby 6d 452 shell_2001
CRYAN Simpson Burnley 8e 209 shell_2001
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Births Sep 1861
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CRYAN James Northwich 8a 230 wendyhall
CRYAN Maria Ecclesall B 9c 246 wendyhall
CRYAN Thomas Huddersfield 9a 315 wendyhall
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Births Mar 1862
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CRYAN Ruth Hayfield 7b 605 mfcjames lct
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Births Jun 1862
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CRYAN Ann Gateshead 10a 633 mariners76
CRYAN John Altrincham 8a 20_ mariners76
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Births Sep 1862
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CRYAN Mary Ann Ashton 8d 427 JimG
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Births Mar 1868
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Cryan John Huddersfield 9a 336 zac
Cryan Mary Ann Huddersfield 9a 326 zac
Cryan William Henry Macclesfield 8a 117 zac
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Marriages Jun 1868
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Cryan Anney Tynemouth 10b 344 wright12
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Marriages Jun 1869
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CRYAN Jane Macclesfield 8a 214 sbarkle
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Marriages Dec 1869
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CRYAN Mary Macclesfield 8a 162 andreab
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Marriages Jun 1870
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CRYAN John Dewsbury 9b 791 Orion
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Marriages Sep 1871
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Cryan Mary Huddersfield 9a 572 murche
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Births Mar 1872
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Cryan Margaret Amelia Wigan 8c 36 jbop41
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Marriages Jun 1872
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Cryan Daniel W.Derby 8b 8** sarah
Cryan James Sheffield 9c 755 sarah
Cryan Mary Ann Chorlton 8c 9*0 sarah

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CRYAN Patrick 3 Durham 10a 222 shirlssmith
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Births Mar 1873
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CRYAN Joseph Durham 10a 440 estivz
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Births Dec 1873
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Cryan Agnes Oldham 8d 669 jhvbjps
Cryan Henrietta Johanna Newcastle On Tyne 10b
119
jhvbjps
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Deaths Jun 1874
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Cryan Thomas Patrick 1 Dewsbury 9b 453 PennyH
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Births Sep 1874
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Cryan Albert Saddleworth 9a 263 hgriff
Cryan John W. Derby 8b 222 hgriff
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Deaths Sep 1874
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CRYAN John 0 West Derby 8b 230 jumo_p
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Deaths Dec 1874
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CRYAN Agnes 1 Haslingden 8e 103 walj
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Marriages Jun 1875
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CRYAN Mary Anne Bolton 8c 487 alisonshears
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Marriages Dec 1875
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Cryan James Patrick Woolwich 1d 1514 jscar
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Births Dec 1876
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CRYAN Peter Sunderland 10a 682 shirlssmith
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Marriages Jun 1877
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Cryan John Chesterfield 7b 1028 Julie2
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Marriages Dec 1877
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CRYAN Elizabeth Durham 10a 472 AndrewDavison
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Marriages Jun 1878
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CRYAN Kate Bury 8c 603 DavidCamp
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Marriages Dec 1878
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CRYAN Winifred Salford 8d 157 walj
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Births Mar 1883
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Cryan Norah Louisa Warrington 8c 204
PatShepherd
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Deaths Jun 1883
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CRYAN Eliza 62 Ormskirk 8b 555 wilmots
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Marriages Jun 1883
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CRYAN Maria Manchester 8d 396 suwest
CRYAN Sarah Ann Pontefract 9c 172 suwest
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Deaths Sep 1883
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CRYAN Flora Emily 0 W. Ham 4a 37 Bullitt
CRYAN John 21 Tynemouth 10b 157 Bullitt
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Marriages Sep 1883
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CRYAN James Chorlton 8c 1113 precisa
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Marriages Dec 1883
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Cryan Andrew Ormskirk 8b 1263 steve1rd
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Marriages Jun 1884
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CRYAN Thomas Chesterfield 7b 1170 Waitati
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Marriages Dec 1884
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Cryan Ellen Banbury 3a 1401 Mark_Hattam
Cryan Mary Ann Tynemouth 10b 355 Mark_Hattam
Cryan Michael Dewsbury 9b 1062 Mark_Hattam
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Marriages Jun 1885
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Cryan Patrick Tynemouth 10b 357 Harry
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Deaths Sep 1885
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CRYAN John James 0 Hartlepool 10a 70 ReadL4
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Marriages Jun 1886
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Cryan Bartholomew Pontefract 9c 154 tw125
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Marriages Dec 1886
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CRYAN Ann Oldham 8d 838 inett
CRYAN John Sheffield 9c 487 inett
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Marriages Mar 1888
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CRYAN Catherine Pontefract 9c 155 sueadcock
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Marriages Mar 1889
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Cryan Roger Sunderland 10a 719 floerose
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Marriages Jun 1890
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CRYAN Mary Jane Hartlepool 10a 209 Dyas
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Deaths Mar 1893
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Cryan Johanna 41 Warrington 8c 132 503
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Deaths Jun 1893
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Cryan Peter 62 Rochdale 8e 52 jthorpe
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Births Sep 1893
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Cryan William Tynemouth 10b 276 cmpcan
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Deaths Sep 1893
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Cryan Joseph 20 Durham 10a 260 DJMARSHALL
Cryan William 0 Tynemouth 10b 183 DJMARSHALL
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Deaths Mar 1894
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Cryan Thomas 63 Chorlton 8c 452 Audrey2
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Marriages Mar 1894
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CRYAN Annie Tynemouth 10b 331 Penfold
Somerset
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Births Sep 1894
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Cryan Ann Sunderland 10a 598b davidwmason
Cryan James Chesterfield 7b 654 davidwmason
Cryan Margaret Sunderland 10a 598 davidwmason
Cryan Sydney Ecclesall 9c 406 davidwmason
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Births Mar 1895
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Cryan William Tynemouth 10b 262a LilianFrs
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Deaths Mar 1895
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Cryan Julia 36 Rochdale 8e 49 Joysmith
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Marriages Jun 1895
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Cryan Catherine Sunderland 10a 999 jjmance
klf
Cryan Catherine Tynemouth 10b 405 jjmance klf
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Births Sep 1895
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Cryan Rose Sunderland 10a 629 RobinK
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Deaths Sep 1895
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Cryan Annie 1 Sunderland 10a 372 pbell
Cryan Margaret Mary 1 Sunderland 10a 372
pbell
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Deaths Dec 1895
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Cryan Arthur 0 Wakefield 9c 12 2001
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Marriages Sep 1898
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Cryan Edmund W.Derby 8b 1061 TMeighan
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Births Dec 1898
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CRYAN Michael Hunslet 9b 272 lynn
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Births Mar 1901
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Cryan James Joseph Sunderland 10a 632 Rosebud
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Births Jun 1901
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Cryan Elizabeth Bolton 8c 540 RobinK
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Marriages Sep 1901
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CRYAN Catherine Wakefield 9c 125 Phil-B
CRYAN Ellen Edith Birkenhead 8a 1097 Phil-B
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Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page
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Births Mar 1862
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CREHAN Barbara St George S 1d 126 zielle
CREHAN Matthew Rochdale 8e 47 zielle
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Births Sep 1862
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CREHAN George Patrick Liverpool 8b 258 June34
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Births Dec 1876
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CREHAN Jeffrey Sheffield 9c 538 shirlssmith
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Deaths Mar 1883
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CREHAN Stephen 1 Rotherham 9c 396 Bullitt
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Births Jun 1883
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CREHAN Mary Ellen Rotherham 9c 6_4 MaureenL
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Marriages Jun 1890
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CREHAN John Chorlton 8c 1246 Dyas
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Marriages Jun 1893
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Crehan John Warrington 8c 276 503 Canada1
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Births Jun 1894
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Crehan Julia Ann Chorlton 8c 909 jurbyjim
Crehan Margaret Mary Warrington 8c 262
jurbyjim
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Marriages Sep 1894
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Crehan Susannah Chorlton 8c 1374 pfmustoe
Scan2
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Deaths Dec 1894
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Crehan Mary 39 Rotherham 9c 341 Dave
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Deaths Sep 1895
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Crehan Martin 1 Prescot 8b 508 grprice
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Deaths Dec 1895
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Crehan Michael 1 Prescot 8b 495 2001
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Births Jun 1898
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Crehan Ernest Chorlton 8c 902 royjennion
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Marriages Sep 1898
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Crehan Michael Joseph Sheffield 9c 925
TMeighan
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Births Jun 1901
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Crehan Charles John Rotherham 9c 766 RobinK
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Births Dec 1901
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Crehan James Manchester 8d 239 simba
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Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page
Contrib(s)
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Marriages Dec 1837
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CREAN Owen Clerkenwell 3 31 ems
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Births Mar 1838
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Crean Mary Carlisle 25 55 Ron_Birchall
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Marriages Dec 1838
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Crean John Francis Solihull 16 627 katalau
Crean Mathias Bristol 11 161 katalau
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Marriages Jun 1841
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CREAN William Macclesfield 19 119 Teeka
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Marriages Dec 1841
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CREAN John Cockermouth 25 103 587999
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Deaths Mar 1843
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CREAN Stephen Chorley 21 261 SteveC
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Deaths Jun 1844
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Crean Bridget St Geo Han Sqr 1 9 TMeighan
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Births Sep 1845
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Crean Bridget Leeds 23 461 sgaunt
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Births Mar 1848
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CREAN Harriet Elizabeth Lambeth 4 332 JNAYLOR
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Marriages Jun 1848
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Crean Daniel Chorlton 20 94 bdmayes
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Births Mar 1849
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Crean Elizabeth Chorlton 20 225 suebate
Crean Francis Charles Fylde 21 46[79] suebate
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Marriages Mar 1851
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CREAN MARGARET CHORLTON 20 136 LynB MJMcC
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Births Mar 1852
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Crean Jeremiah John Chorlton 8c 594 djbm995
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Marriages Jun 1853
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Crean James Wirrall 8a 516 RichardGiddens
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Births Sep 1853
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Crean Mary Ann Margaret Chorlton 8c 551
cowie_rosemary scotland
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Marriages Mar 1854
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Crean Thomas West London 1c 131 prkeyte
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Marriages Sep 1854
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Crean Timothy Clerkenwell 1b 744 liversidge
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Marriages Dec 1854
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Crean Patrick Sheffield 9c 575 tw125
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Births Mar 1860
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CREAN Anna Mary Penkridge 6b 382 cazzie
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Births Sep 1860
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CREAN James Chorlton 8c 583 rickmc
CREAN James Chorlton 8c 5_3 VicB
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Births Jun 1861
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Crean Female Elham 2a 740 gospeloak
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Births Dec 1861
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CREAN Alfred James Cambridge 3b 439 Ewart
CREAN David Newport M 11a 174 Ewart
CREAN Letitia Mary Penkridge 6b 336 Ewart
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Births Mar 1862
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CREAN Ellen Cardiff 11a 213 zielle
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Births Jun 1862
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CREAN Catherine Eastry 2a 690 cmcain
CREAN Margaret Sheffield 9c 290 cmcain
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Births Sep 1862
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CREAN Julia Rotherhithe 1d 535 June34
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Births Mar 1864
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Crean Louisa Ellen Eastry 2a 762 coralieM
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Births Jun 1864
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CREAN Daniel Rotherhithe 1d 574 janurbs
CREAN Ellen Mary Stoke T 6b 213 janurbs
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Births Mar 1868
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CREAN Sarah Hannah Chorlton 8c 728 cmjawa
sgaunt
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Marriages Jun 1868
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Crean Cornelius Bolton 8c 389 wright12
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Marriages Dec 1868
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CREAN Martin Nantwich 8a 481 rbeall
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Marriages Jun 1870
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CREAN Henry Wigan 8c 51 Orion
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Marriages Sep 1870
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Crean Harriett Elizabeth London C. 1c 25
waggy
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Births Mar 1871
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Crean Clara Newport Mon 11a 178 GLTaylor
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Deaths Mar 1871
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Crean Robert 1 Chorlton 8c 521 0300
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Births Jun 1871
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Crean Honor Durham 10a 337 PaulKennerley
Crean James Salford 8d 38 PaulKennerley
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Deaths Mar 1872
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Crean William 6 Salford 8d 25 Bill_R
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Marriages Mar 1872
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CREAN Frederick Arbuckle Aston 6d 437
datacreata
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Deaths Sep 1872
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Crean Margaret 76 Pancras 1b 80 sc1
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Births Mar 1873
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Crean Emily Georgina Aston 6d 305 Worthington
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Births Jun 1873
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Crean James Whitehaven 10b 611 jmy
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Deaths Jun 1873
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CREAN Margaret Ellen 1 Wandsworth 1d 372
phaver
CREAN Philpot Graham 44 Liverpool 8b 121
phaver
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Births Sep 1873
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Crean Frances Chorlton 8c 797 Audrey
Crean John David Lambeth 1d 314 Audrey
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Deaths Sep 1873
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Crean Martin John 38 Stoke On Trent 6b 111
Patian
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Deaths Dec 1873
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CREAN Catherine 9 Cardiff 11a 176 Hotspur
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Births Jun 1874
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Crean Mary York 9d 2 Jagra
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Deaths Jun 1874
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Crean Mary 1 Bradford Yorks. 9b 156 johnt

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Births Sep 1874
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Crean Gertrude Mary Penkridge 6b 481 hgriff
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Deaths Sep 1874
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CREAN Ellen 1 Cockermouth 10b 403 jumo_p
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Deaths Dec 1874
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CREAN Frances 1 Chorlton 8c 545 walj
CREAN John 8 Chorlton 8c 538 walj
CREAN Sarah Hannah 6 Chorlton 8c 545 walj
CREAN William 3 Chorlton 8c 545 walj
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Marriages Dec 1875
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Crean James Liverpool 8b 406 jscar
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Births Jun 1876
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CREAN Ellen Wandsworth 1d 591 Leigh
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Births Sep 1876
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CREAN Mary Elizabeth St. Saviour 1d 7 dalowe
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Births Dec 1876
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CREAN John Fitzgerald W.Derby 8b 555
shirlssmith
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Marriages Dec 1876
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CREAN Mary Nantwich 8a 523 AandJS
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Marriages Mar 1877
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Crean Martin Bradford Yorks 9b 288 Jaws
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Marriages Jun 1877
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Crean Michael Tynemouth 10b 309 Julie2
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Marriages Dec 1877
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CREAN James Blackburn 8e 647 AndrewDavison
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Marriages Dec 1878
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Crean Cornelius W.Derby 8b 813 pandora
Crean Richard Manchester 8d 421 pandora
Crean Thomas Blackburn 8e 670 pandora
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Marriages Mar 1879
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CREAN Patrick Albert Plymouth 5b 388 richas
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Marriages Jun 1880
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CREAN Patrick Liverpool 8b 398 TonyB
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Births Mar 1883
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CREAN John Christopher Liverpool 8b 28 Orion
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Deaths Mar 1883
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CREAN John 32 St. Saviour 1d 8 Bullitt
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Births Jun 1883
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CREAN Charley Salford 8d 74 MaureenL
CREAN Thomas Bolton 8c 378 MaureenL
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Births Dec 1883
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Crean Hannah Burnley 8e 183 Curly
Crean James Salford 8d 166 Curly
Crean Thomas Burnley 8e 183 Curly
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Deaths Dec 1883
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CREAN James 0 Salford 8d 124 Ceri
CREAN Thomas 0 Burnley 8e 141 Ceri
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Marriages Jun 1885
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Crean Annie Monmouth 11a 75 Harry
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Deaths Sep 1885
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CREAN Antonio 42 Easington 10a 210 ReadL4
CREAN Hannah 1 Burnley 8e 111 ReadL4
CREAN Mary Ann 74 Bethnal Green 1c 120 ReadL4
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Marriages Sep 1885
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CREAN John Newport N. 11a 300 Orion
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Marriages Jun 1886
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Crean Patrick Wakefield 9c 83 tw125
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Marriages Sep 1886
------------------------------------------------------------------------
CREAN Ellen Kensington 1a 378 tracymca
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Marriages Sep 1887
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Crean Mary Kensington 1a 251 matthew
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Marriages Jun 1888
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CREAN William Sheffield 9c 479 jonrouse
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Marriages Dec 1888
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CREAN Elizabeth Liverpool 8b 278 Ceri
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Deaths Jun 1891
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CREAN John 0 Blackburn 8e 317 vgretton
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Births Mar 1893
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Crean Thomas Patrick W.Derby 8b 600 Joysmith
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Births Sep 1893
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Crean Stephen John Ashton 8d 516 PatJones
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Deaths Dec 1893
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Crean John David 20 Greenwich 1d 720 dianep6
Crean Mary 52 Manchester 8d 185 dianep6
Crean Thomas Patrick 0 W. Derby 8b 492
dianep6
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Births Mar 1894
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Crean Robert Blackburn 8e 341 77
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Deaths Mar 1894
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Crean Robert 0 Blackburn 8e 245 Audrey2
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Births Jun 1894
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Crean Annie Prescot 8b 717 jurbyjim
Crean Lily Salford 8d 71 jurbyjim
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Deaths Jun 1894
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Crean Lily 0 Salford 8d 63 hollymck
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Births Sep 1894
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Crean Patrick W. Derby 8b 611 vaturne
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Deaths Sep 1894
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Crean George 60 Chelsea 1a 213 TonyPoole
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Births Dec 1894
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Crean Ellen Wakefield 9c 13 IanandSue
Crean Patrick Joseph W.Derby 8b 622 IanandSue
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Births Mar 1895
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Crean James Patrick Birkenhead 8a 602
LilianFrs
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Deaths Mar 1895
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Crean Margaret 26 Lewisham 1d 952 Joysmith
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Births Jun 1895
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Crean Frances Salford 8d 78 ledon
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Marriages Jun 1895
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Crean Robert Manchester 8d 314 jjmance klf
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Births Sep 1895
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Crean Honore Bridget West Derby 8b 608
nhartlett
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Deaths Sep 1895
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Crean Louisa 18 Salford 8d 58 grprice
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Marriages Sep 1895
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Crean Luke Liverpool 8b 67 SmithPM jjmance
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Deaths Dec 1895
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Crean James 27 W. Derby 8b 474 2001
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Marriages Dec 1895
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Crean Hannah Maria Newport, M. 11a 357
DickGlover
russhart
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Births Mar 1898
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CREAN Sarah Wakefield 9c 32 brianframe
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Births Jun 1898
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Crean Emily Salford 8d 67 royjennion
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Marriages Jun 1898
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Crean Frank Chorlton 8c 1570 njdawson
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Marriages Dec 1898
------------------------------------------------------------------------
CREAN James Patrick Newport M. 11a 351
Robespierre

CREAN John Hackney 1b 1105 Robespierre
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Births Mar 1901
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Crean Frances Newport M 11a 207 caroljean
Crean Victor O'Halloran Birkenhead 8a 534
caroljean
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Births Jun 1901
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Crean Ellen Edith Pancras 1b 91 RobinK
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Births Dec 1901
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Crean Bernard W. Derby 8b 643 caroljean
Crean Eva May Aston 6d 206 caroljean
Crean Julia Prescot 8b 748 caroljean
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Marriages Mar 1859
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Croyne Bridget Northwich 8a 293 RHarper
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Births Jun 1862
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CROYNE John Henry Durham 10a 291 mariners76
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Marriages Dec 1886
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CROYNE Thomas Atherstone 6d 681 inett
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Births Sep 1893
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Croyne William Henry Atherstone 6d 450 cmpcan
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Croyne William Blackburn 8e 660 Miki9958
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Croyne Cecilia Birmingham 6d 130 RobinK

 

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Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page
Contrib(s)
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Marriages Dec 1837
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CRINE Dominick Ashton under Lyne 20 15
cbuckley
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Births Sep 1838
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Crine Matthew Manchester 20 444 jonga
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Marriages Jun 1840
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CRINE John Hatfield Lymington 8 293 LAH
CRINE William Strand 1 360 LAH
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Marriages Sep 1842
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CRINE Harriett Frome 10 534 ORayne
CRINE John Manchester 20 479 ORayne
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Births Mar 1845
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CRINE Mary Ann Aundage Ashton Le 20 97
caernarfon
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Births Sep 1846
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CRINE Emma Charlotte St Geo East 2 100
Ainslie
GSheehan
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Marriages Dec 1846
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Crine Maria Harriet St Lukes 2 333
sartorellik
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Births Mar 1847
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Crine Joseph Stepney 2 *8 NITEMARE
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Births Mar 1852
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Crine John Hayfield 7b 555 djbm995
Crine John Henry St Geo East 1c 456 djbm995
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Marriages Sep 1854
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Crine James Chesterfield 7b 749 DBegeman
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Births Dec 1861
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CRINE Eliza Bethnal Gn 1c 228 Tom_Slattery
CRINE Mary Hayfield 7b 582 Tom_Slattery
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Births Sep 1862
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CRINE Mary Ann Ada Shoreditch 1c 158 BG70
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Births Dec 1862
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CRINE William Sunderland 10a 456 pepplerpee
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Births Mar 1864
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Crine Lucy Hayfield 7b 611 coralieM
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Births Jun 1864
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CRINE Walter Priestley Islington 1b 281
janurbs
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Deaths Mar 1868
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CRINE Owen 50 Manchester 8d 224 mervjones
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Marriages Mar 1868
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CRINE Margaret Hayfield 7b 807 sbarkle
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Marriages Dec 1868
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CRINE Emma Charlotte Mile End 1c 1108 rbeall
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Marriages Sep 1869
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CRINE Maria Sunderland 10a 657 jcannon
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Marriages Dec 1869
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CRINE Elizabeth Alice E Shoreditch 1c 244
andreab
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Marriages Jun 1870
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CRINE Patrick Sunderland 10a 798 Orion
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Births Dec 1871
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CRINE Thomas James Poplar 1c 575 npope
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Births Mar 1872
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CRINE Joseph Chorlton 8c 680 5108
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Births Mar 1873
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Crine Harriet Frances Sculcoates 9d 140
Worthington
Crine William Sunderland 10a 697 Worthington
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Births Sep 1873
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Crine Catherine Sunderland 10a 744 Audrey
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Deaths Sep 1873
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Crine Emma 40 Mile End 1c 362 Patian
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Marriages Sep 1873
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CRINE Michael Manchester 8d 723 Davee
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Deaths Dec 1873
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CRINE Hannah 74 Shoreditch 1c 113 Hotspur
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Births Jun 1874
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Crine Catherine Chorlton 8c 774 Jagra
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Births Mar 1876
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Crine Nathaniel Edward Hackney 1b 545 Patian
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Births Jun 1876
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CRINE Bridget Islington 1b 373 Leigh
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Births Mar 1883
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Crine Mary Ann Sunderland 10a 636 PatShepherd
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Births Dec 1883
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Crine Alice Tynemouth 10b 243 Curly
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Marriages Mar 1888
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CRINE Margaret Bolton 8c 476 sueadcock
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Marriages Jun 1888
------------------------------------------------------------------------
CRINE Thomas Bolton 8c 446 jonrouse
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Marriages Jun 1890
------------------------------------------------------------------------
CRINE Harry Reading 2c 660 Dyas
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Births Jun 1893
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Crine Vincent W. Ham 4a 29 JillF
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Births Jun 1894
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Crine Patrick Manchester 8d 295 jurbyjim
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Deaths Mar 1895
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Crine Sarah 58 Bromley 2a 351 Joysmith
------------------------------------------------------------------------

Marriages Mar 1895
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Crine Mary Ann A Hackney 1b ___ Vafvare
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Births Jun 1895
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Crine Leonard W.Ham 4a 201 ledon
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Marriages Sep 1876
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CRYANS Thomas Manchester 8d 390 shemel
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Marriages Mar 1878
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Cryans Thomas Wigan 8c 143 dave-duke
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Births Dec 1881
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CRYANS James Chesterfield 7b 671 mikec
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Births Dec 1883
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Cryans James Wigan 8c 142 Curly
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Marriages Mar 1890
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CRYANS James Chesterfield 7b 867 Joysmith
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Deaths Sep 1891
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Cryans Mary Ann 0 Chesterfield 7b 340
julierob
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Births Sep 1893
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Cryans John Chesterfield 7b 739 cmpcan
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Births Mar 1894
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Cryans Catherine Chesterfield 7b 725 PatJones
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Births Jun 1895
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Cryans Margaret Wigan 8c 176 ledon
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Births Mar 1898
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Cryans William Chesterfield 7b 723 sheilagh
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Births Mar 1901
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Cryans Annie Chesterfield 7b 763 Rosebud
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Births Jun 1901
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Cryans Ellen Chesterfield 7b 754 RobinK
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From: "Karen McElrath" <k.mcelrath@qub.ac.uk> | Block Address | Add to Address Book
Reply-to: k.mcelrath@qub.ac.uk
Subject: Re: [Cryan et al.] PATRICK S CRYAN- DANA PUOPOLO
Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2002 13:47:38 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time)
To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

 

hiya pat: i made contact with dana several years
ago. i think
she was then about 16 or 17 years of age. have
not heard from
her since although she is descended from a
patrick cryan who was
born in county sligo and died in swampscott,
massachusetts.
best, karen

 

On Thu, 30 May 2002 20:24:46 +0100 Pat Cryans
<pat@pcryans.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:

> HI, I AM TRYING TO CONTACT THE ABOVE PERSON
WITH REGARD TO AN INTREST I HAVE.
> PATRICK IS DEAD DANA PLEASE CONTACT ME, OR
ANYONE WHO KNOWS HER.
>
Date: Sat, 8 Jun 2002 12:21:41 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> | Block Address | Add to Address Book
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http://obits.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/obit.cgi
Entries matching "cryan"

Type: Keyword Matches: 1-39 of 39 Breakdown:
cryan[39]

BAILEY, Bernice E "Bunny" (CRYAN); 82; Lebanon
NH;
Concord M; 1998-1-16; cgdbout
BAILEY, Bernice E "Bunny" (CRYAN); 82; Lebanon
NH;
Manchester U-L; 1998-1-16; cgdbout
CRYAN, Alberg C G; ; ; Newsday (NY); 1998-6-10;
rpng
CRYAN, Alice (McALPIN); 73; Beaumaris ON;
Bracebridge
Examiner; 2000-2-16; ekim
CRYAN, Angela "Dolly" (FRAVESI); 89; Agawam MA;
Agawam
A-N; 2000-8-10; pml
CRYAN, Angela "Dolly" (FRAVESI); 89; Agawam MA;
Spfld
U-N; 2000-8-9; fgibeau
CRYAN, Angela L "Dolly" (FRAVESI); 89; Agawam MA;
Spfld U-N; 2000-8-10; fgibeau
CRYAN, Catherine M (FITZGERALD); 85; Hamilton NJ;
The
Times (NJ); 1999-7-23; caroilh
CRYAN, Charles J; 73; Barnegat NJ; ATC Press;
2001-7-6; cbentiv
CRYAN, Christina Ruth (CRYAN); 48; Lawrence
MA>Warwick
RI; Prov Journal; 2002-2-6; wgroberge
CRYAN, Dorothy E; 71; Farmingdale NY>Rockledge
FL;
Florida Today; 2001-12-21; mrm
CRYAN, Dorothy (SCIUPIDER); ; Buffalo NY; Buffalo
News; 2000-4-21; opnjudy
CRYAN, Gladys (HOUSE); 81; Lakeland FL; Ledger;
1997-12-13; clbates
CRYAN, Jessie May; 88; ; San Jose M-N (CA);
1999-4-29;
bjw
CRYAN, John J; ; Haverhill MA; Boston Globe;
1999-2-16; cgdbout
CRYAN, John J; ; Haverhill MA; Boston Globe;
1999-2-17; cgdbout
CRYAN, John Michael; 40; Lake Simcoe ON; Guelph
Daily
Mercury; 2000-2-21; koorn
CRYAN, M Hazel (SHERMAN); ; Saugus MA; Boston
Globe;
2001-1-4; troll
CRYAN, M Hazel (SHERMAN); ; Saugus MA; Boston
Globe;
2001-1-5; troll
CRYAN, M Kathleen "Kay" (MURPHY); 76; St Thomas
ON; St
Thomas T-J; 1999-5-18; kbutler
CRYAN, M Kathleen "Kay" (MURPHY); 76; St Thomas
ON; St
Thomas T-J; 1999-5-19; kbutler
CRYAN, Mary Ethyl (CALVERT); 56; Houston
TX>Hindsville
AR; Madison C-R; 2000-8-24; rprkr
CRYAN, Mary Ethyl (CALVERT); 56; Huntsville AR;
Mornews; 2000-8-18; pat
CRYAN, Maxine Elizabeth (McKAOUN); 85; Paradise
CA;
Chico E-R; 2001-3-16; mrs
CRYAN, Maxine Elizabeth (McKAOUN); 85; Paradise
CA;
Paradise P; 2001-3-17; mrs
CRYAN, Paul Joseph; 73; Lowell MA>Westerly RI;
Prov
Journal; 1999-6-22; wgroberge
CRYAN, Robert; 58; Waynesboro PA; Hagerstown M-H
(MD);
2000-10-24; gschubert
CRYAN, Robert; 58; Waynesboro PA; The Morning
Call;
2000-10-23; tjbdpa
CRYAN, Shirley Lois (FREEMAN)[CULKIN]; 67;
Chicago
IL>Pacific Grove CA; Times Herald Rec (NY);
2001-10-24; wwwalton
CUNNINGHAM, Catherine (CRYAN); 95; Hamilton NJ;
Bucks
Co C-T (PA); 2002-3-15; dharg
FOOTE, Sheryl C (CRYAN); 61; Albany NY>Boston MA;
Nashua T (NH); 1999-12-16; cgdbout
FOOTE, Sheryl (CRYAN); 61; Albany NY>Boston MA;
Manchester U-L; 1999-12-16; cgdbout
KELLY-CRYAN, Joan Frances; ; metro Chicago IL;
Chicago
Tribune; 1996-3-17; trumbullc
MORSE, Maureen G (CRYAN); 59; Hamilton NJ; The
Times
(NJ); 1999-12-28; caroilh
PATTERSON, Harriet C (CRYAN); 69; Whitefield
NH>Lower
Allen Township PA; Sentinel; 1999-3-4; wwwalton
PATTERSON, Harriet (CRYAN); 69; Harrisburg PA;
Harrisburg P-N; 1999-3-4; mam
ROONEY, Regina "Jean" (CRYAN); 86; Brooklyn NY;
Ridgefield P (CT); 1998-2-5; bjw
STADVEC, Mary (CRYAN); 68; Pennsville NJ; The
Times
(NJ); 1999-3-26; caroilh
TRACY, Mary Elizabeth (CRYAN); 75; Boston
MA>Keene NH;
Windsor Chronicle (VT); 2000-6-9; jcary

Date: Sat, 8 Jun 2002 12:23:42 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> | Block Address | Add to Address Book
Subject: [Cryan et al.] Obituary Daily Times - Crean
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Entries matching "crean"

If no names are listed below here, then none were
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Type: Keyword Matches: 1-50 of 72 Breakdown:
crean[72]

 

 

 

 

CAMPOMENOSI, June (CREAN); 78; Staten Island
NY>Mandeville LA; Times-Picayune; 2000-2-9; mlc
CAMPOMENOSI, June Crean; 78; Staten Island NY>New
Orleans LA; Times-Picayune; 2000-2-11; mlc
CREAN, Anna G; 92; MA>New Milford CT; Spfld U-N
(MA);
1998-11-14; fgibeau
CREAN, Anthony G; 70; Queens NY>W Hartford CT;
Hartford Courant; 2000-6-23; townsend
CREAN, Anthony G; 70; Queens NY>W Hartford CT;
Hartford Courant; 2000-6-24; townsend
CREAN, Bridget T "Bridie" (GANLEY); ; Winthrop
MA;
Boston Globe; 1999-11-28; cgdbout
CREAN, Bridget T "Bridie" (GANLEY); ; Winthrop
MA;
Boston Globe; 1999-11-29; cgdbout
CREAN, Charles B Sr; 75; Holyoke MA; Holyoke H-H;
2002-2-13; fgibeau
CREAN, Charles B Sr; 75; Holyoke MA; Spfld U-N;
2002-2-12; fgibeau
CREAN, Dixie (); 83; Hazel Park MI; Detroit News;
1995-9-18; cwkirsch
CREAN, Dolores R (DUCLOS); 68; Granby MA; Spfld
U-N;
1997-6-5; namefinder
CREAN, Doris M (ROUKEY); ; Brockton MA; Boston
Globe;
2000-6-19; cgdbout
CREAN, Edith Patricia ( ); ; London ON; London
F-P;
1997-5-23; blawton
CREAN, Edna J (ELMORE); ; Brighton MA; Boston
Globe;
1998-5-22; bg
CREAN, Ellen C ( ); ; Waltham MA; Boston Globe;
2001-2-13; troll
CREAN, Ellen C miss; ; Waltham MA; Boston Globe;
2001-2-12; troll
CREAN, Ellen Isabel (KEARNEY); ; Vancouver BC;
Vanc
Sun; 1999-10-8; mumtaz
CREAN, Emma P; 85; Lorain OH; Lorain J;
1999-7-29;
njmlj
CREAN, Ethna (O'LOUGHLIN); ; Dublin DUB IRL;
Irish
Examiner (COR IRL); 2001-4-24; dja
CREAN, Frances A (FITZGERALD); ; Silver Spring
MD>Longwood FL; Wash DC Post (DC); 1999-12-16;
jwilly
CREAN, Gerald; 76; Bloomingdale NJ; Newark S-L;
1998-3-22; fgibeau
CREAN, Gerald; 77; West Springfield MA; Spfld
U-N;
2001-4-28; fgibeau
CREAN, Helen; ; IRL>Spring Lake Heights NJ;
Newark
S-L; 1999-7-22; fgibeau
CREAN, Hubert J; ; East Aurora NY; Buffalo News;
1995-11-29; mbaron
CREAN, Hubert M; ; Arlington VA; Wash DC Post
(DC);
2000-2-15; jwilly
CREAN, Isabelle B ( ); 80; Ocean City NJ; ATC
Press;
2000-2-29; cbentiv

 

 CREAN, James A; 61; Agawam MA; Spfld U-N;
1999-10-26;
fgibeau
CREAN, James A; 61; Springfield MA; Agawam A-N;
1999-10-28; pml
CREAN, John; ; Cork COR IRL; Irish Examiner;
2001-2-26; dja
CREAN, John J; 72; Wrentham MA; Worcester T-G;
2000-12-13; jmd
CREAN, John J; 72; Wrentham MA; Worcester T-G;
2000-12-14; jmd
CREAN, John James Jr; 76; Bronx NY>Salisbury NC;
Gaston G; 2001-1-20; wrabb
CREAN, Katherine M (SULLIVAN); 95; Worcester MA;
Worcester T-G; 1995-12-12; cwhee
CREAN, Kathryn Victoria "Kay"; 79; New York
NY>Annapolis MD; Annap MD Capital; 2000-6-29;
gilligaloo
CREAN, Lady Ellen Isabel (KEAMEY); ; Vancouver
BC;
Province; 1999-10-8; verbeek
CREAN, Margaret Elizabeth "Marlie" (DOBBIE); ;
Toronto
ON; Toronto G&M; 2001-4-17; sw
CREAN, Margaret Elizabeth "Marlie" (DOBBIE); ;
Toronto
ON; Toronto G&M; 2001-4-18; sw
CREAN, Margaret Elizabeth "Marlie" (DOBBIE); ;
Toronto
ON; Toronto G&M; 2001-4-19; sw
CREAN, Marian A (MATTER); ; South Wales NY;
Buffalo
News; 1998-4-8; opnjudy
CREAN, Marie G (HEALY); 92; Salem MA; Manchester
U-L
(NH); 2001-6-10; pboro
CREAN, Marie G (HEALY); 92; Salem MA; Salem E-N;
2001-6-11; matms
CREAN, Mary ( ); ; ; Newsday (NY); 2000-4-30;
rpng
CREAN, Mary "May"; ; Ballyphehane Cork COR IRL;
Evening Echo; 2001-10-25; dja
CREAN, Maryrose M; 73; Westfield MA; Spfld U-N;
2001-5-7; fgibeau
CREAN, Michael James; 32; Rancho Cordova CA;
Sacramento Bee; 1997-10-23; sandrah
CREAN, Patrick; ; Clonmel TIP IRL; Irish Examiner
(COR
IRL); 2001-10-18; dja
CREAN, Patrick Father; ; Knockanemore Ovens COR
IRL;
Irish Examiner; 2001-3-22; dja
CREAN, Peter; 37; Kenmare KER IRL>QC; Cork
Examiner
(COR IRL); 1867-5-29; dja
CREAN, Richard; ; Buffalo NY; Buffalo News;
2000-4-17;
opnjudy
CREAN, Robert F; 78; Philadelphia PA>Las Vegas
NV; Las
Vegas R-J; 1999-8-24; rossy
CREAN, Robert F; 78; Philadelphia PA>North Las
Vegas
NV; Las Vegas Sun; 1999-8-24; neb
CREAN, Rose J (SCHMITZ); ; Buffalo NY; Buffalo
News;
1998-11-17; opnjudy
CREAN, Rosemary E (GRAY); 70; Salem MA; Salem
E-N;
2001-1-19; matms
CREAN, Sean Michael; ; Bay Shore NY; Newsday;
1997-3-12; rpng
CREAN, Thomas B J; 80; Syracuse NY; Syr PS;
1999-3-14;
siram
CREAN, Thomas J; 74; Southbury CT; Voices;
1999-6-30;
hakjak
DARDIS, Gloria E (CREAN); 79; New York
NY>Lancaster
PA; Lancaster N-E; 2002-5-16; egoodman
DAWSON, Margaret E (CREAN); 82; MA; R Greenfield;
2000-2-3; rwwl
DAWSON, Margaret E (CREAN); 82; Springfield MA;
Spfld
U-N; 2000-2-2; fgibeau
DWYER, Eileen M (CREAN); 80; Branford CT; Meriden
R-J;
2000-12-21; ajrgii
HOOD, Helen Marie (CREAN); 84; Buffalo NY>Truckee
CA;
Reno G-J (NV); 1999-12-14; spike
HORGAN, Kathleen (CREAN); ; Mallow COR IRL;
Evening
Echo; 2002-1-12; dja
JAMBORA, Jacqueline F (CREAN); 69; Palmer MA;
Spfld
U-N; 1999-2-20; fgibeau
JOPSON, Patricia M (CREAN); 69; Westfield MA;
Spfld
U-N; 1998-11-19; fgibeau
JUDGE, Jean L (CREAN); 96; Concord MA; Spfld U-N;
1998-10-23; fgibeau
MALONEY, Anna E (CREAN); 90; Beverly MA; Salem
E-N;
2002-3-18; matms
O'LEARY, Valerie (CREAN); ; Gortanelig COR IRL;
Irish
Examiner; 2001-12-18; dja
O'SULLIVAN, Kate (CREAN); ; Donoughmore COR IRL;
Cork
Examiner; 1911-1-14; dja
PERIGORD, Lillian M (CREAN); 85; Westfield MA;
Spfld
U-N; 2000-10-17; fgibeau
TIERNEY, Elizabeth L (CREAN); ; Baltimore MD;
Baltimore Sun; 2001-12-25; siwel
WEST, Margaret M (CREAN); 74; Buffalo NY>Sayre
PA;
Evening Times; 1999-3-27; jndann
WEST, Margaret M (CREAN); 74; Buffalo NY>Sayre
PA;
Evening Times; 1999-3-27; jndann

Date: Sat, 8 Jun 2002 12:25:29 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> | Block Address | Add to Address Book
Subject: [Cryan et al.] Obituary Daily Times - Crehan
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crehan[54]

 

 

 

 

BLOUNT, Irma Crehan; 77; Bon Wier TX; Beaumont
Enterprise; 2002-4-26; mesn
CREHAN, Alfred E; 70; Chester NY; Times Herald
Rec;
1999-3-3; wwwalton
CREHAN, Anna M (SULLIVAN); 94; Weymouth MA;
Boston
Globe; 1997-7-17; jgraham
CREHAN, Barbara Ann; 55; Natick MA; Middlesex N;
1996-6-1; jgraham
CREHAN, Barbara Ann (POWELL); 55; Natick Ma;
Middlesex
N; 1996-5-31; jgraham
CREHAN, Carol J (BROST); ; Buffalo NY; Buffalo
News;
1997-5-4; opnjudy
CREHAN, Carola (TRASK); 56; Norwood MA; Natick
Bulletin; 1996-9-19; jgraham
CREHAN, Catherine B (KEOWN); 76; Wrentham MA;
Boston
Globe; 2000-4-27; cgdbout
CREHAN, Delia (McNAMARA); ; Quincy MA; Boston
Globe;
2001-4-16; troll
CREHAN, Dorothy Elizabeth (FLOURNEY); 75; Hampton
VA;
Hampton D-P; 1999-7-6; glenn
CREHAN, Earl B Sr; ; Baltimore MD; Baltimore Sun;
2001-12-18; siwel
CREHAN, Helen ( ); 75; Muskegon MI; Muskegon
Chron;
1997-7-23; carolann
CREHAN, Helen (KARPOWICZ); 75; Muskegon MI;
Muskegon
Chron; 1997-7-24; carolann
CREHAN, Helen (SCANLON); ; Buffalo NY; Buffalo
News;
1999-12-27; opnjudy
CREHAN, Jennie Frances ( ); 92; Glen Burnie MD;
Maryland G; 1996-8-31; aconley
CREHAN, John J Sr; ; Pembroke MA; Boston Globe;
2001-1-26; troll
CREHAN, Joseph M; 69; Walpole MA; Boston Globe;
1999-10-21; cgdbout
CREHAN, Joseph M; 69; Walpole MA; Boston Globe;
1999-10-22; cgdbout
CREHAN, Kathleen H; ; Bedford MA; Boston Globe;
1999-6-27; cgdbout
CREHAN, Margaret (RABBITT); ; Co Galway IRL;
Newsday
(NY); 2000-7-28; rpng
CREHAN, Margaret S ( ); 91; Hilton Head Island SC
GA;
Savannah MN; 1998-9-26; theg
CREHAN, Marian (GREEN); 101; Danbury CT;
News-Times;
1998-6-22; sherik
CREHAN, Marie (FOLEY)[GARRITY]; ; New York NY;
Boston
Globe (MA); 2000-1-6; cgdbout
CREHAN, Marie (FOLEY)[GARRITY]; ; New York NY;
Boston
Globe (MA); 2000-1-7; cgdbout
CREHAN, Mark J; 94; Boston MA>Hartford CT;
Hartford
Courant; 2001-7-8; townsend
CREHAN, Mary C; ; West Roxbury MA; Boston Globe;
1999-2-8; cgdbout
CREHAN, Mary C; ; West Roxbury MA; Boston Globe;
1999-2-9; cgdbout
CREHAN, Mary F (MANN); ; West Harwich MA; Boston
Globe; 1999-7-4; cgdbout
CREHAN, Robert L;; Framingham MA; Boston G;
1995-6-27;
cgodbout
CREHAN, Robert Thomas; 43; Tampa FL>Westminster
CO;
RMN; 2001-5-21; mak
CREHAN, Rosemary M (McCORMICK); 58; Tonawanda NY;
Buffalo News; 1999-1-13; opnjudy
CREHAN, Theresa (CELIO); 84; Windsor CT; Hartford
Courant; 1997-1-12; townsend
CREHAN, Theresa (CELLO); 84; Windsor CT; Hartford
Courant; 1997-1-13; sgowen
CREHAN, Titus; ; Oakland CA; SF Chronicle;
1997-3-9;
bosshogg
CREHAN, Verniece R; ; Joppa MD; Wash DC Post
(DC);
1997-4-10; jwilly
CREHAN, Verniece Torney ( ); ; ; Wash DC Post
(DC);
1997-4-9; andrusko
CREHAN, William Earle; 73; ; Des Plaines DH (IL);
2001-5-31; kag
CREHAN, William Earle; 73; Pittsburgh
PA>Barrington
IL; Des Plaines DH; 2001-6-1; kag
CREHAN, William Earle; 73; Pittsburgh
PA>Barrington
IL; Des Plaines DH; 2001-6-3; kag
FITZGERALD, Ann (CREHAN); ; Rockville MD; Wash DC
Post
(DC); 1997-7-25; row
HOYLE, Anne M (CREHAN); ; Valley Stream NY;
Newsday;
1998-4-20; rpng
HOYLE, Anne M (CREHAN); ; Valley Stream NY;
Newsday;
1998-4-20; rpng
HOYLE, Anne M (CREHAN); ; Valley Stream NY;
Newsday;
1998-4-21; rpng
HOYLE, Anne M (CREHAN); ; Valley Stream NY;
Newsday;
1998-4-21; rpng
MINITER, Elizabeth (CREHAN); 98; New Haven CT;
New
Haven Reg; 1999-3-12; cgdbout
MINITER, Elizabeth (CREHAN); 99; New Haven CT;
Hartford Courant; 1999-3-11; townsend
O'DWYER, Margaret (CREHAN); ; Bruff LIM IRL;
Irish
Examiner (COR IRL); 2000-12-9; dja
O'NEILL, Anne (CREHAN); ; IRL>Bridgeport CT;
Hartford
Courant; 1997-10-12; townsend
POIRIER, Marion (CREHAN); ; Quincy MA; Boston
Globe;
1999-2-10; cgdbout
POIRIER, Marion (CREHAN); ; Quincy MA; Boston
Globe;
1999-2-11; cgdbout
SERIGHELLI, Joanne (CREHAN); ; Hanover MA; Boston
Globe; 2001-1-10; troll
WALBRIDGE, N Kathleen "Kitty" (CREHAN); 82;
Rockland
MA; Boston Globe; 2000-3-18; cgdbout
WALBRIDGE, N Kathleen "Kitty" (CREHAN); 82;
Rockland
MA; Boston Globe; 2000-3-19; cgdbout
WILLIAMS, Teresa Crehan; 0; Quincy MA; Boston
Globe;
1999-11-24; cgdbout

Date: Sat, 8 Jun 2002 12:27:00 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: [Cryan et al.] Obituary Daily Times - Crine
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Entries matching "crine"

 

 

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CRINE, James D; 75; Wickatunk NJ>Las Vegas NV;
Las
Vegas R-J; 1998-6-21; rossy
CRINE, Robert J; 85; Bryan OH; Blade; 1997-6-4;
cagormley
FALCONER, Doris McQuaig Crine; 75; Cairo GA;
Tallahassee D (FL); 1992-8-12; whamo

Date: Sat, 8 Jun 2002 12:56:20 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: [Cryan et al.] Immigrant Ships - Cryan
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http://istg.rootsweb.com/
Immigrant Ships
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making
the search for our ancestors immigration
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We grew out of a need to find ships' passenger
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that we are a new project. Although we have
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ships transcribed, it is a small number in the
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ISTG Vol 3 - Ship Belle Wood
... US 333 William Irwin 20 M School Teacher
England
US 334 Murty Sullivan 28 M Laborer
England US 335 Julia Dunnigan 18 F Servant
England US
336 John Cryan 55 M ...
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... & Ann CRUTT?N Barque Mahaica CRUTTAN Barque
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Canada CRUZ ARARYO, CAPTAIN Brig Laura CRY?LER
Ship
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Aurelia
CRUZE SS Africa CRYAN ...
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ISTG Vol 2 - City of Berlin
... 6 Rd. Stevens 52 Male Labr England Plymouth
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7 Ed Cryan 16 Male Labr England Oldham Mass Lower
Deck
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CRURTEN SS Utopia CRUST Barque Marengo CRUTTENDEN
RMS
Abyssinia CRYAN Ship ...
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ISTG Vol 4 - SS Pavonia
... 329 Alice McQuade 18 F Spinster Ireland NH
No6
Stearage 2 Pro Soj 330 Mary Cryan
20 F Spinster Ireland Mass No6 Stearage 1 Pro Soj
331
Lucy McLean 58 F Matron ...
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Subject: [Cryan et al.] Immigrant Ships - Crean
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Immigrant Ships
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ISTG Vol 2 - Ship Ulysses
... Allen 8 118 James Allen 10 119 Michael Roney
20
120 Michael McKenna 20 121 Michael
McLuskey 20 122 Andrew Ke??an * 20 123 Francis
McKenna
20 124 Sally Crean 27 ...
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ISTG Vol 3 - SS Columbia
... F Wife Foreigner Steerage 476* Johanna
Wesinberger
@ F Spinster Foreigner Steerage
477* M Fitzgerald @ M Laborer Ireland Steerage
478*
Andrew Crean @ M Laborer ...
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ISTG Vol 3 - SS Patagonia
... Laborer Ireland USA Steerage 323* Hugh ?.
Crean 22
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Subject: [Cryan et al.] most recent references from Ros. Her.
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Roscommon Herald 1882

4 feb 1882
drumlion
sustentation fund
peter john luke and widow cryan
m.

18 feb 1882 p4
Boyle Board of Guardians
The seed rate
Cryanstown
art

25 feb 1882
keash
sustentation fund
derrygoola- mathew pat patrick
broher -tom pat dominick james
carrowcrory - john j. j. mathew
derrynasheagh -p. mathew
templevanny - dan pat
carrowre.... - martin martin snr
drumnagranshee- john
all cryans above
m.

20 may20 may 1882
Boyle presentment Sessions
John Cryan Cesspayer
m
also
ladies league
corrykenroe
miss kate cryan
m

3 jun 1882
shepherds demonstration at ballinagar
owen cryan
m

4 nov 1882p3
the homicide of Thomas hunt
cryans of ballinultha
art

18 nov 1882
derrygoolah
tenants Mathew and pat cryan
m

23 dec 1882
connaught winter assizes
charge of murder [Thomas kennedy]
witnesses cryans of ballinultagh
art

fin

Roscommon Herald 1883

24 feb 1883
Boyle borough court
intimidating a crown witness
mrs cryan of ballinultagh
art

 

 

1903

24 oct 1903
p1
[Drawing of Pat Hourican]

also
The King-Harmon Tenants
V Rev Canon Lowry
J M Cryan
art

also
p6
Boyle Quarter Sessions
Thursday
Ownership of a Stream
Martin Cryan of Cregane
art

7 nov
p7
Subland Commission Court in Boyle
5th col
Cryan vs same
James and Honoria Cryan
art

14 nov
p2
[Marriage of Coothall lady in Manchester
Catherine Judge daughter of mr and mrs Judge]
art

also
p3
Boyle No 1 District
3rd col
Deferred Payments
Mr Cryan
art

fin

 

 

Roscommon Herald 1904

27 feb
Dr Crean
Bawnboy Union
Co Cavan
m

23 apr
p2
Boyle Town Commissioners
1 The Exhibition Question
2 National Convention
art

cryan-l@rootsweb.com
Roscommon Herald Articles No. 70
7 may
p4
News in Brief
On Friday evening of last week whilst a farmer
named
Thomas Cryan of Oakfield was proceeding to his
home
from Strokestown market he took suddenly ill and
died
a short time afterwards.

18 jun
p1
[Soldiers and Irish language]
art

25 jun
p6
Mullaghroe Petty Sessions
Co Sligo
Threatening Language
Thomas Cryan and wife Hanoria
Steward on Coolavin Estate
art

2 jul
p8
Sligo Union
H Cryan
Coal contract
art

16 jul
p3
Roscommon Assizes
A Boyle TC
Mr John Cryan TC
ART

20 aug
[Clippings for the papers
Waterford
Disinterred for a kiss]
art

20 aug
p1
cartoon
[An Oratorical Pose Councillor Waters]

10 sep
p1
cartoon
[A thing seen at the Sligo Boardrooms
councillor waters]
art

1 oct
p1
[A surprise visit from Mr Martin Waters]
cartoon

8 oct
p2
Boyle Union
The Salaries
J Cryan
art

oct 29
p1
cartoon
Ballinamore Quarter Sessions
Hugh Creegan
Cloone

5 nov
p1
[Unsuppressible Martin Waters]
cartoon

12 nov
p3
Late Canon Nangle
Croghan
art

10 dec
p1
cartoon
Mr Gibbons
Roscommon town

fin

Roscommon Herald 1905

 

1905 25 jan
Boyle Quarter Sessions
3rd col
Malicious injury
Pat Cryan Carrowreagh
art
also 6th col
A Ballybane Suit
Darby Crann
art

11 feb
Presentation Brothers Schools
Children in School Choir
Peter and Eugene Cryan
m

18 feb
News in Brief page
Cartoon
and
Story of Dr Hyde
art

15 apr
Ballinamore Quarter Sessions
Wednesday
Creegan vs Clem....
art

cryan-l@rootsweb.com
Roscommon Herald Articles No. 71
29 apr
Died Cryan - On April 24th 1905 at his residence
in
Carrowcrory Michl Cryan.
Aged 86. Deeply regretted by his sorrowing family
RIP.

 

Also
Obituary
Same page as Clippings form the Papers
Death of Mr M Cryan father of JM Cryan JP
chairman of
Boyle No2 Council
art

May 6
Boyle No 1 District Nominations
Ballyfarnon
Denis Cryan
m

3 jun
Boyle Quarter Sessions
MONDAY
Alleged tresspass
Peter Cryan Bailiff on Mrs Caddells Estate
m
also
News in Brief
Co Sligo
JM Cryan chairman re elected for the 5 th time
m

24 jun
p1 cartoon Pat Breheny]

 

cryan-l@rootsweb.com
Roscommon Herald Articles No. 72
15 Jul
Boyle Petty Sessions
Disorderly Constable McGarry had James Cryan of
Mullaghroe summoned
for being drunk and disorderly. The constable
said
Cryans conduct was bad
but he was a quiet man when sober. He resisted
arrest
and when a constable
in plain clothes came to his assistance, Cryan
knocked
off his hat and broke it.
He was fined 7s 6d.

5 aug
[Clippings Act of Vandalism Clonmacnoise art]

12 aug
News in Brief page
last col
Sudden Death Michael Cryan Dockloonagh
art

2 sep
Ballaghdereen Petty Sessions
Series of Assaults
1st col
art
next page
Mullaghroe Petty Sessions
Row About a Pass
Thomas Cryan Clogher
art

9 sep
p1
hugh Cryan
drawing

30 sep 1905
[News in Brief page
last col
Irish names on carts art]

7 oct 1905
9th col
News in Brief page
obituary
Thomas Cryan Townaghbrack NS Ballaghdereen
art

14 oct
News in Brief page
Elections of Petty Sessions Clerk
JM Cryan JP
ART
also
Boyle Elections Petitions
Mr Jones Oates
AND
Mr Cryan
articles

21 oct 1905
Clippings page
Sligo Union
The Suspended Porter
and
The Milk
H Cryan
art

28 oct 1905
p1
convicted 11
Cryan
drawing
also
Clippings page
Boyle Quarter Sessions
A Clogher Case
Thomas Cryan
art
[ends at Tarmonbarry case]

[11 nov 1905
p2
Strokestown Petty Sessions
Irish Names on CARTS
ART]

[18 nov 1905
Roosky Petty Sessions
THe Irish Language art]

Roscommon Herald 1908

21 mar 1908
Johnny Cryan
drawing

20 jun 1908
John Cryan JP
drawing

25 jul 1908
John Cryan Boyle
drawing

25 jul 1908
pat early
drawing

26 sep 1908
John Cryan
drawing

14 nov 1908
Peter Cryan Bailiff Caddell Est
drawing

Roscommon Herald 1909

 

2 oct 1909
James Cryan Ballinamore
drawing

6 nov 1909
Luke Cryan Caddell Est
drawing

13 nov 1909
Darby Crann Leam
drawing

25 dec 1909
Martin Cryan Caddell Est
drawing

Roscommon Herald 1910

 

16 apr 1910
waters
drawing

15 oct 1910
Peter Cryan Bailiff Caddell Est
drawing

Roscommon Herald 1912

 

21 sep 1912
Peter Cryan sub agent Caddell Est
drawing

28 sep 1912
Bally mote court John Cryan Derrygoola
drawing

19 oct 1912
Martin Coleman Ballaghdereen
drawing

30 nov 1912
P Cryan Ballymote
drawing

 

Roscommon Herald 1913

 

11jan 1913
Cassidys Castle
foto
Bog hovel

18 jan 1913
carolans chair
foto

25 Jan 1913
Martin cryan cregganee
drawing
boyle quarter sessions plaitaiff

3 may 1913
foto
trustees john cryan
bad quality

2 aug 1913
fotos no 6
john cryan jp
carrowcrory
good qual

18 aug 1913
John coleman
owner of prop in ballaghdereen
p1
drawing

Roscommon Herald 1914
24 oct 1903
p1
[Drawing of Pat Hourican]

also
The King-Harmon Tenants
V Rev Canon Lowry
J M Cryan
art

also
p6
Boyle Quarter Sessions
Thursday
Ownership of a Stream
Martin Cryan of Cregane
art

7 nov
p7
Subland Commission Court in Boyle
5th col
Cryan vs same
James and Honoria Cryan
art

14 nov
p2
[Marriage of Coothall lady in Manchester
Catherine Judge daughter of mr and mrs Judge]
art

also
p3
Boyle No 1 District
3rd col
Deferred Payments
Mr Cryan
art

fin
Roscommon Herald 1915
22 may 1915 p1
foto
ok qual
co leitrim football team
j cryan

6 nov 1915 p1
a call to 50000 irishmen
Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 06:36:00 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> | Block Address | Add to Address Book
Subject: [Cryan et al.] new refs
To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

 

Hi
I have sent off the recent references to the
Roscommon
Library [enclosing 15 euro as a present for the
staff
to get chocolates or flowers]. The cost of
photocopying from the microfilm is 45 cent per
copy in
the Roscommon Library as opposed to 1.30 euro
per
copy in the National Library. I have sent nearly
50
references so it will come to about 25 euro [as
opposed to about 65 euro in the National
Library].

Once again any help [financial or typing] would
be
welcome. As usual I ask anew as I dont want to
put any
pressure on anyone as they may be busy etc. So
anybody
who would like to help out, please send me your
home
address and roughly how many many articles you
would
like to type [I will average the articles out
between
long and short].

The drawings will be scanned to my site as soon
as I
get them.

As usual *any* help is appreciated - the list
could
not continue with such an amount of material we
have
seen since its inception without your help.

thanks again
caoimhghin

Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2002 09:33:59 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Sean Crean" <sfcrean@yahoo.com> | Block Address | Add to Address Book
Subject: Re: [Cryan et al.] free bmd crean 2
To: "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>

 

Caoimhghin,

Where is this list from? The first name bowled
me
over as I have a gr aunt who became "Sister" Mary
Gertrude and this birth date is not far off.

Sean

 

--- Caoimhghin O Croidheain
caoimhghin@yahoo.com

Its from this site:
http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/

 

wrote:
> Births Sep 1874
>
------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Crean Gertrude Mary Penkridge 6b 481 hgriff
>
------------------------------------------------------------------------

Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 13:29:06 -0500
From: "Mercedes Hall 229905" <mhall@esc5.net> | Block Address | Add to Address Book
To: caoimhghin@yahoo.com

 

On the obituary list of Crehans:
Irma Crehan Blount died 4/25/02 instead of
4/26/02. Dates mean very much when doing genealogy.

Mercedes Crehan Hall, daughter

 

 

From: "fivecents.mom" <fivecents.mom@verizon.net> | Block Address | Add to Address Book
Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2002 21:32:51 -0400
Subject: [Cryan et al.] Carmel Cryan, actor
To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

 

I came across this reference on the web regarding
a Carmel Cryan:
http://us.imdb.com/M/person-exact?+Cryan,+Carmel

This is a living person, I believe -- just
thought you'all might be interested ... Leslie

From: "Thomas Crane" <tccrane@peoplepc.com> | Block Address | Add to Address Book
To: "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>
Subject: Fw: My Book
Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2002 22:50:08 -0700

Dear Caoimhghin, For your info. Tom Crane
----- Original Message -----
From: Thomas Crane
To: June H.
Sent: Saturday, June 15, 2002 10:46 PM
Subject: Fw: My Book

June, For your info. Tom
----- Original Message -----
From: Thomas Crane
To: fivecents.mom
Sent: Saturday, June 15, 2002 9:47 PM
Subject: My Book

Hello Leslie, Good news - I hope. My niece has taken on the project of getting my book, "Green Is The Valley, Blue are The Hills," posted on the web. She has her own server. The project should be completed sometime in August, so keep your fingers crossed. Since I could not get a publisher to accept it, this is the next best thing. I will probably never make a dime off of the book, but at least the world will be able to read what it is that I had to say. She has developed a "prototype" that she sent to me that gives a brief outline of the book and I am forwarding it to you for you to read. The manuscript has been sitting on a shelf gathering dust and I began to think that I would never see it published in my lifetime. At least I will now be able to say that am a published, but poor, author. When the entire web site is up and running then you may wish to refer members of the group as to its availability. God Bless, Tom Crane

Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2002 03:52:48 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> | Block Address | Add to Address Book
Subject: [Cryan et al.] new material
To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

 

Hi everybody
I got the p/c's back yesterday from the Roscommon
Library. The total cost was 25 euro and there are
about 30 articles and 20 illustrations.
I have already got 2 offers for typing and a
contribution towards costs from Patrick Cryans.
Anyother help would be very much appreciated.
I am doing the 1882-1888 period in the library
now asthe microfilm starts in 1882.
However the Roscommon library has editions of the
Roscommon Herald starting from around 10 years
earlieron microfilm so at some stage in the future I
willhave to go down to Roscommon to continue the
research.

As I mentioned above any extra help would be
great andwill facilitate getting the material up as soon
aspossible. I will scan the images to my site as
soon asI can.Regards
Caoimhghin

From: "Pat Cryans" <pat@pcryans.fsnet.co.uk> | Block Address | Add to Address Book
Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2002 19:50:50 +0100
Subject: [Cryan et al.] NORA CRYAN
To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

 

HI CAN ANYONE HELP? I AM TRYING TO TRACE ANY
RELATIONS OF THE ABOVE LADY.
SHE ORIGINATED FROM THE CLOONCALTRY/ BEARLOUGH
AREA NEAR BALLYMOTE COUNTY SLIGO.
SHE WAS MARRIED TO JOHN {ANDY} CRYAN OF BROUGHER
KEASH
SHE DIED AGED OVER 90 YEARS RECENTLY, HER PARENTS
WERE OWEN BREHENY AND MARY CRYAN.
YES HER MOTHER AND HUSBAND WERE BOTH CRYANS, SHE
DIED LIVING IN CARSHALTON SURREY UK.
ANY TAKERS

 

 Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2002 07:32:37 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> | Block Address | Add to Address BookSubject: [Cryan et al.] John Crean
To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
Hi all Got a letter form John Crean I met n Galway at
conference
Here is a relevant section:
'My own father John Crean was born in
Clooncrawfield
near Loughglynn Co Roscommon in 1894 and died
Manchester in 1989. A John Crean who died in
Manchester is buried at Athleague Co
Roscommonbut
that person is unknown to me.
My fathers parents were John Crean and Annie
Finan.
My grandfather was a small farmer who died in
1944 and
was probably born about 1870. His father was also
John
Crean and he was for a time an inspector of
schools.
His wife was called Bridget MacCormack.'
Can anyone shed any light on this family history?
Caoimhghin

Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 09:53:19 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> | Block Address | Add to Address BookSubject: [Cryan et al.] crean/crane
To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
hiI met a John Crean at a conference in Galway and
he
said that his grandfather was schools inspector.
Hie
is going to send me his family history soon. He
also
told me about a graveyard with crean headstones
at
Mionlough a few miles out of Galway. I took a
quick
drive down and noted the following details from
them:

1.
Michael CRane 24/12/1894
wife Ellen 8/12/1933
son patrick march 1904

2.
John Crane 31 jul 1945 [87]
wife Una 8/12/1952 [92]
Bridget 14/11/1989 [61]

3.
Thos Crean 14/5/1976 [83]
Dau. Bridget 14/5/1941 [19
his parents
Patrick and Bridget
wife molly
[neeFlannery, Dingle]
29/9/1994 [92]
caoimhghin

Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 03:24:44 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> | Block Address | Add to Address BookSubject: [Cryan et al.] Homestead Leases 1890
To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
AUS-NSW-WEST Mailing List
Homestead Leases 1890
http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~surreal/NSWW/HL/intro.html
Initially much of the land in the Far West of NSW
wasdivided into vast Pastoral Holdings. In 1884 the
Government introduced a system of HOMESTEAD
LEASESunder which a person could apply for a "small"
10240acre Homestead Lease, the land to be taken out of
aPastoral Holding.
The Homestead Lease System was a tightly
controlled,highly legalised and well documented process -
all ofwhich is a goldmine of information for those
wantingto find out about their ancestors on the land.

http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~surreal/NSWW/HL/1890.html

Approvals

Applicant Land Dist - County - Parish(es) Acres
Annual Rent £-s-d Gaz HL No Applic No Reg No

CRAIN Rachael Charlton Bourke - Cowper -
Irrewarra,
Mulholland 10240 53-6-8 1 630 89-35 89-14825

Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 04:15:54 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> | Block Address | Add to Address Book
Subject: [Cryan et al.] Havana Band 1934
To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

 

Hi
Article I discovered in book on Boyle.

I am currently trying to find out if it is
possible to
get any recordings of their music.

Caoimhghin

 

Boyle -The Origins, The Buildings, The Times.
Moylurg Writers, Boyle 1988

Veronica O'Connor
'Bands in Boyle'

"Havana Band 1934.
Francis Cryan, Melodeon; Michael Cryan, Clarinet;
Leo
Cryan, Drums.

Their father, Michael Cryan, played with the
Connaught
Rangers Band 1905. The Havana Band also played
the
local halls - Crossna, Croghan, Boyle and
Cootehall.
On the way to each dance they would recite the
Rosary.
Transport was provided by Gus Regan.

 

Boyle Havana Band
The proprietor wishes to announce to its patrons
that
it has now of a fully equipped up-to-date P.A.
Sound
Equipment, which will be in use at their
Christmas and
New Year Dance. This apparatus is so constructed
that
it can be used in any hall whether it be
electric, gas
or lamp light - the only one of its kind now
operating
in the country.
It is also available for hired-out purposes, such
as
concerts, plays or other functions on reasonable
terms. - F.J. Cryan"

Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 12:58:09 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> | Block Address | Add to Address Book
Subject: [Cryan et al.] Cryan and Pierce Brosnan ?
To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

 

IRISH INDEPENDENT :
6th August, 2001.

 

THE DAY PIERCE AND HIS BRIDE CHOSE TO SAY HELLO
ONLY
TO A SELECT FEW.

Tom Shiel.

 

To the list of extraordinary roles played by
actor
Pierce Brosnan you can now add the Invisible Man.
He played the part most convincingly at his
wedding to
Keely Shaye Smith in Baillintubber Abbey. Co.
Mayo, on
Saturday - even if press reviews of his
performance
have been less than ecstatic.
007 fans who gathered in large numbers at the
ancient abbey were certainly disappointed - all
they
saw of the James Bond hero was a clenched fist
and 12
inches of immaculately suited arm as he briefly
saluted through the partly rolled down window of
a
Mercedes on his arrival for the 4.30 pm ceremony.
The entrance of both bride and groom to the
church,
through a flower-bedecked, specially constructed
wickerwork porch, bordered on the farcical -
minders
from Hello! magazine draped each wedding car on
arrival with large protective sheets - green
for
him, white for her - to prevent press cameramen
getting any photos.

In such circumstances, it is little wonder that
the
Mayo couple- Michael Monaghan from Balla and
Carmel
Cryan from Bohola - who shared the Brosnan's
wedding
day and venue, grabbed a fair share of the media
spotlight.

In the bright sunshine, which followed thundery
showers, the crowd warmly applauded Mr. Monaghan
and
Ms Cryan as they left the church for their
reception
in an open-topped Phantom Bentley convertible ,
waving
like royalty - the vintage vehicle Pierce Brosnan
wanted to hire.

"Pierce requested the vehicle, but Carmel and
Michael
had it already booked ," chauffeur Eamon Walkin
explained, However, in a generous gesture of
solidarity with the pair, Pierce (48) and Keely
(37)
sent a bottle of champagne and separate
congratulation
cards to them.

Apart from actor Rod Steiger, a former Oscar
winner,
now 76, there were very few stars on the Brosnan
wedding guest list. This, said Phil Hall,
editor-in-chief of Hello! , was because Pierce
Brosnan
wanted the event to be a celebration of family
and
friends rather than a bit "big celebrity" affair.

But a gigantic midnight fireworks display, which
would
not be out of place on a James Bond movie set,
was one
of the highlights at the wedding reception in
Ashford
Castle. The Spectacular display was ignited out
on
Lough Corrib which surrounds part of the castle
grounds.

Earlier the 150 guests had toasted the newlyweds
with
imported Californian champagne and they feasted
on
caviar and lobster. One insider revealed
afterwards:
"The marquee was like a Hollywood set. I have
never
seen anything like it before. It would have done
the
Oscars proud."

After the church ceremony, the wedding party and
guests had been driven to Ashford, where they
were met
by members of the Balla Pipe Band, led by Mattie
Dowd,
who piped them into the castle, The guests were
ushered to a huge marquee which had been erected
on
the grounds, but members of the band and other
entertainers employed for the night had to walk
through a "bodyscan" to ensure they were not
carrying
hidden cameras.

After the champagne reception the party sat down
to
baby potatoes and buckwheat blinis with caviar,
followed by organic baby greens and Stilton. And
for
the main course, they had a choice of Cleggan
lobster
or chicken with herb stuffing, while dessert
consisted
of orange parfait with citrus fruits and caramel.
A
six-tier wedding cake formed the centrepiece at
the
top table.

Afterwards, a section of the, marquee opened up
to
reveal a floodlit tropical garden and the
Chieftains
on stage. Pierce and his new bride led the guests
in
the first dance.

Following the "fairytale" wedding, life is
expected to
return to normal at Ashford Castle today, when
the
couple and their guests are due to depart after a
hectic weekend of partying.

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Roscommon Herald Articles No. 100
Thanks to Veronica Cryan for the typing
25 May 1901

MR. CRYAN'S CASE.

With reference to the case of Mr. Fitzsimons,
D.I.,against Mr.Martin Cryan. Keash, for an alleged
breachof the Sunday Closing Act, which was adjourned
from aprevious court in consequence of the bench being
divided.

Mr. Henn said having regard to the constitution
of thebench to-day, he would not ask Mr. Fitzsimmons to
goon with it, as Mr. O'Brien and he were for
convictingthe last day , and Mr. Cryan and Mr. Hannon were
fordismissing it.

Mr. Fitzsimmons said having regard to the bench,
hewould not ask to go on with the case, as it would
bevery unfair to Mr. Cryan.

Mr. Henn said they would adjourn the case to the
nextcourt day, and ask Mr. Hawksby, C.P.S., to inform
themagistrates in the district about the case, and
request them to attend.

The court then adjourned

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Roscommon Herald Articles No. 101
Thanks to Veronica Cryan for the typing
30 March 1901

UNITED IRISH LEAGUE.

KEASH BRANCH (CO. SLIGO).

At the meeting of this branch on Sunday last, Mr.
P.Duignan, V.P. presided. The committee decided to
send
a list of subscribers to the Parliamentary Fund
to the"Herald " and the "Sligo Champion." The secretary
saidhe would do so. He had the lists ready to send.
Theywere aware that he sent £7 to the credit of J.E.
Redmond , M.P. The following is the list of
subscribers to the Parliamentary Fund: - Rev. P.
Stacy, P.P. 10s.; a friend, 10s; J.M. Cryan,
2s.6d.;2s. each - M. Gray, D.C.; M.Cryan, Mathew Lavin,
JoeConry, D.Crofton, Co.C.; J. McDermott, P. Horan,
T.Flynn. A friend 1s. each - J. Trimble, P.Breheny.
T.Plunkett, J. Mullen, J. Kelly, T. Conlon, J.
Flynn,P. Morrison, M.Henry, A.McGowran, J.Killbran,
P.Flynn,J.Taheny, T. M'Garry, P. Keelty, J. Benson, P.
Lydon,L. Reagan, J. Lavin, J. Doyle, J. Sheeran. D.
Cosgrove, J. O'Connor, J.McGettrick, A. Keelty,
L.Hannen, M. Lavin, F.Dyer, P.Tansey, M.Keelty,
P.Gormley, T. Mahony, M. Cryan, M. Keneveny, J.
Breheny,A. Keelty, M. O'Connor, L.Conry, M. Clarke, M.
Leonard, E. Crofton, R. O'Connor, T.Harry,
A.Hannon,J.O'Kane, P.Keaveny, J. McDonagh, J. Scanlon,
P.Breheny, T.Lavin, P.Balentine D.Cosgrove,
P.Langton,J. Brady, J. Cryan, M.Healy, D.C.; J. Goulden,
P.Kelly, J.McGowan, P.McGowan, Gp. Horan, J.
Cryan,M.Brennan, M.McGowan, L.Queenan, P.Snee, J.Soden,
M.Cryan, P.Cryan, B.Scanlon, P.McDonagh,
B.Taheny, J.Cosgrove, P.Dyer, B.Tahony, J.Flynn, Buoye,
M.Brennan,T.Clarke, J. O'Brien, J. Cullen, A. Donoher, C.
Morrisroe, P. Dyer, P.Reagan, M. Morrison,
M.Morrison,J.Scanlon, M.Gaffney, M. Keveney, T. Kelly,
J.Cullen,Mr. O'Galaghan, Fitz. Devine, J.Scanlon,
J.Breheny,D.C.; M.Keelty, M.Breheny, J. Casey, J.Conlon,
P.Henry, T.Coleman, T.Lavin, Mrs. Garvin, J.
Harte, J.Cryan, P. Benson, E.Tahony, J.Cryan. M.Dyer, J.
Ward,J. Keelty, T.McLoughlin, J.Shorte, M. Kenny, M.
Cawley, J. Gallagher, P.Kenny, E.Keelty, P.
Burns, J.Boylan, P. Duffy, M.Dyer, J. Tahony, Mathew
Breheny;6s. each L.Connor, T.Nangle, Mrs.Culen, R. Fagan,
M.McCormack, Mrs. Fitzwilliams, P. Cryan M.
Langton.

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Roscommon Herald Articles No. 102
Thanks to Veronica Cryan for the typing
8 March 1902

OBITUARY.

DEATH OF MRS. CATHERINE CRYAN.
BRIDGETOWN, CARRICK-ON-SHANON.

A member of one of the most respected families in
thecounties of Roscommon and Leitrim passed away on
lastSaturday, in the person of Mrs. Catherine Cryan,
of
Bridgetown, Carrick-on-Shannon. Mrs. Cryan had
beenunwell for about a fortnight, and although very
slighthopes were held out as to her recovery in the
laterstages of her illness, still the sad tidings of
herdeath occasioned the deepest sorrow - sorrow that
wasnot only felt in the immediate neighbourhood in
whichshe lived, and was so universally beloved, but
throughout Roscommon and Leitrim, in which
countiesher family have for years been so well known, and
sodeservedly popular. She had reached the age of 68
years, and during her long and honourable
allottedspan she, with her characteristic, ladylike and
gentlemotherly qualities, earned these effusions of
popularesteem, which none can elicit but those who
duringlife have associated with their acts such
desirableessentials as charitableness, geniality, probity
andaffability. That she possessed all these splendid
traits was quite plain to all who knew her, if
theirkeen and sincere regret, mingled with eulogistic
reference can be taken as any indication of
character.A Lady whose considerations were always most
profuseto those who, through poverty, have always a call
uponthe charitable, she extended that hand of
encouragement and alleviation to the poor, who
willnow mourn her loss, and who, by her death, have
lost afriend, whose memory must indelibly remain
implantedin their hearts. She was at all time imbued with
thosegentle, amiable and lovable propensities that go
toconstitute the ideal lady, the kind mother, the
hospitable neighbour and generous friend. She was
mother of our respected and popular townsman, Mr.
JohnCryan, with whom, as well as the other members of
thefamily; the greatest sympathy is expressed in
theirirreparable loss and deep affliction. The remains
wereremoved to Drumlion Catholic Church on Sunday and
Solemn Requiem Mass was offered for the repose of
hersoul at 11 o'clock on Monday, the celebrant being
rev.Father Lynch, C.C., Boyle; deacon, Rev. Father
Crehan,C.C.; Elphin; sub-deacon - Rev. Father Humphries,
C.C., Boyle; Master of ceremonies - Rev. Father
O'Brien, P.P. Croghan. In the choir were - Very
Rev.Canon Coyne, P.P. Boyle; Very Rev. Cannon
Mannion,P.P. Elphin; Rev. Father Foley, P.P. Ballinameen;
Rev.Father Cummins, C.C. Drumlion, and Rev. Father
Gallagher, C.C. Breedogue. The funeral, which was
thelargest seen in these parts for years, took place
immediately afterwards, and showed by its
dimensionsthe esteem in which deceased was held.

The chief mourners were - Mr. Patrick Cryan and
Mr.John Cryan (sons); Miss Kate Cryan, Miss S.J.
Cryan,Mrs. B. Fallon (daughters); Mr. Peter Carney, Mr.
JohnCarney, Mr. Martin Carney (brothers); Mr.
P.J.Carney,Mr. Peter Cryan, Mr. Patrick Cryan, Mr. M. Cryan,
Mr.Michael Cryan, Mr. Patrick Kielty, Mr. Peter
Carney,Creevolan; Mr. M. Carney, Corballa; Mr. M.Carney,
Corballa (nephews); Miss Carney, Creevolan; Miss
MoranCorballa; Miss Carney, Portobello; Mrs. M'Greevy,
Mrs.Egan (nieces); Mr. M. O'Dowd, Mr. P.O'Dowd, Mr.
P.
Carney (cousins); Mr. Michl. Fallon (son-in-law).
Amongst those present at the funeral were - Rev.
Father O'Brien, P.P. Croghan; Rev. Father
Cummins,C.C. Drumlion; Dr. Kieran Delany,
Carrick-on-Shannon;Mr. H. Slonne, do. ; Mr. McInery, Inland Revenue
Officer, do.; Mr. M.J. Barrett, J.P. do.; Mr. T.
M'Dermott, Co. C. do.; Mr. Pettit, do.; Mr. B.J.
Rogers, Aughamore, Elphin; Mr. J. Rogers, do.;
Mr.J.J. Murray, National Bank, Boyle; Mr. John Cox,
do.;Mr. M. Cunningham, D.C., do.; Mr. P. O'Connor,
Co.C.,do.; Mr. Ernest Cunningham, do; Mr. P. Bealin,
do;Mr. J. Griffin, do.; Mr. J. Lavin, Elphin; Mr. A.
Kelly, C.P.S., do.; Mr. Callaghan, do.; Mr.
Conlon,do.; Mr. W.J. Kilgallon, Martry, do.; Mr. John
Dockerry, do.; Mr. J. McDermott, Solemount. Mr.
G.R.Acheson, Rushill, Mr. Sharkey, Elphin; Mr. E.
M'Dermott, do.; P. O'Dowd, D.C., Elphin; J.
O'Dowd,N.T. Breedogue; M. Conkin, do.; P. Conlon do.;
TimothyO'Beirne, Lescarrow, John O'Dowd, Cullmore; P.
Fitzmaurice, Cuilmore; Mr. Patrick Morris,
Clonfad;Mr, Luke Cryan, Carrowreagh; Mr. P. Cryan, do.;
Messrs. T. Goldrick, P. Goldrick, Drumlion; M.
Fox ,Carrowreagh; E. Padin, D.C. Drumlion; Messrs.
M'Greevy, Drumlion; Mr. Hayden, do.; Messrs.
Hayden,Fortland; Mr. J. O'Dowd, Clonfad; P. O'Dowd,
Cloonfad.; Mr. J. Boyd, Cashel; Mr. M. Boyd, do.;
Mr.J.J. Connellan, Carrick-on-Shannon; Mr. P.
Kellagher,Co.C., Cartron; Mr. E. Kellagher, do; Mr.
P.McDermott,Cashel; Mr. J. McDermott, do; Mr. McNabola,
Carrick-on-Shannon; Mr. A. Little, Boyle; etc.,
-
R.I.P.

A beautiful wreath bearing the following
inscriptionwas placed on the coffin, "In loving memory and
affectionate remembrance of our dear mother,"
from hersorrowing family.

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Roscommon Herald Articles No. 103
Thanks to Veronica Cryan for the typing
27 Apr 1901

BOYLE RACE COMMITTEE.

At the meeting of this body on Tuesday last, Mr.
EdgarS.Robinson, Chairman, presided. The other members
present with Messrs. J. MacDrury. C.T.C. M.
Cunningham, Hon. Sec. John Cox, G.W.Tally, Peter
Griffin, T.J. Devine, Patrick O'Connor, C.C.,
M.J.Egan, John Cryan, and J. Cahill.

FINANCIAL.

The chairman said that they had obtained
subscriptionsto the amount of £9.9s.6d., less expenses, in
Carrickand the year before they could only get 10s. in
it. InBallaghaderrea, they got in actual cash, £9.1s.,
andfrom this quarter they were promised additional
subscriptions which would bring the amount up
£11.9s.After a short discussion, he decided to send Mr.
Brindley the amount of the stakes, the chairman
stating that they had something about £100 on
hands.

ARRANGEMENTS.

Mr. McDrury inquired if the committee had any
power tomake the "bookies" who were stationed outside the
enclosure pay for their stand.
Mr. Cunningham - you have no pwer over them.
Mr. O'Conner thought they should be made to pay,
Mr. McDrury said these men came down from Dublin
tomake a pile of money, and they should be made.
Mr. Griffin was of opinion that the outside
bookmakerswere interfered with, the other bookmakers would
leavein a body as they did on a former occasion.
Mr. O'Connor said he heard that some of the best
ofthe bookmakers remained outside the stand.
Mr. Griffin said where the bookmakers inside the
enclosure would be accepting bets of £10. and
£20. theoutside would only be dealing in as many
shillings.Mr. McDrury said the races were run off at racing
speed on the last occasion, and samething should
bedone to remedy this.
Mr. Cox --- A great many have to run away to
catchthe evening train.
Mr.Drury --- Have we any power to change the
hours?
The chairman thought the matter rested in the
hands ofthe committee.Mr. Cryan was of opinion the first race should
nottake place until about half past one.
Mr. Cunningham said this would be all right if
theofficials would not have to attend another
meeting onthe following day.
Mr. Cunningham then drew up the list of hours at
whichthe races could be run off, the last to take
place at4.10 p.m.
Mr. Cryan --- That would be rather early.
Mr. Cahill said the races were run to suit the
officials and not the public.
Mr. Devine --- Arranging the races, so as they
cannotcatch the 5 o'clock train.
Mr. Cunningham --- They will catch it all the
same. Ifthey have a meeting to attend the following day
theywon't wait beyond the 5 o'clock. If you don't
striveto accommodate them it will be another matter.
Mr. Egan said the officials waited for the late
trainat the Sligo races.
Mr. Griffin --- They had to, as they had to drive
three or four miles.
Mr. O'Connor suggested that Mr. Brindley be
written tostating it was the wish of the committee that the
last
race be run off at 5 o'clock.
Mr. Griffin --- If you arrange to have the first
raceabout 2 o'clock. Mr. Brindley can leave on the
9.20a.m. train in the morning from Broadstone instead
ofthe 7 o'clock.
Mr. Cryan thought Mr. Brindley usually inspected
thecourse before the races.
Mr. Griffin said he would have plenty of time to
inspect it by arriving on the 1 o'clock train.
After a desultory discussion, the chairman said
hewould acquaint Mr. Brindley that it was the wish
ofthe committee to have the last race about 5
o'clock.
Mr.Tully --- And if the first race is fixed say
at1.40 p.m. it will give the Carrick people a
chance ofcoming.
Mr. Cunningham --- And Mr. Brindley can arrange
theintermediate races as he likes.
Mr. Tully --- And you will make the races more
popularby having the last race at a later hour than last
year. You should also ask the Railway Company to
run aspecial from Longford.
Mr. Cunningham also suggested that the Railway
Companybe asked to run specials from Sligo and
Ballaghaderreen..
The chairman said he would write to the Company
on thematter.

THE GRAND STAND.

The committee next proceeded to consider tenders
forthe erection of a Grand Stand.
Mr. Cunningham showed the members a plan of the
proposed Stand. It would be considerably larger
thanlast year and there would also be three stairs in
front. Last year there was only one, and it was
foundto be totally inadequate.
Mr. S. Black, Boyle, tendered to erect the Grand
Standin accordance with specification, together with
additional 90 foot railing, at £34.10s.
Mr. McDerry --- What did he charge last year?
Chairman --- I think he charged £29.10s.
Mr. McDrury --- There must be a great deal in
thatadditional rail.
Mr. James Quinn, The Crescent, tendered to erect
thestand at £35.
The chairman explained that if any accident
happenedowing to a break down of the Stand the committee
wouldbe responsible.
Mr. O'Connor --- There was considerable anxiety
aboutthe safety of the Stand last year. Mr. McDrury
saidthere were some people raising the cry of "wolf".
Mr. O'Connor --- There was a great deal in the
wolf. Ihad the misfortune to be under the Grand Stand
lastyear, and I was not very easy in my mind.
Chairman: You won't be there this time
(laughter).
Mr. O'Connor --- I hope not.
Mr. Cryan said the contractor should leave the
work
completed at least three days before the races,
andnot finishing it the night before the races.
Mr. Griffin --- Fine him £1 for every day he is
behindtime.

Mr. O'Connor said the contractor made over £20 on
theerection of the Stand last year.
Mr. Cunningham said if the committee were to
employmen to put it up, it would cost £50.
The chairman said he heard Mr. Black did not
clear £2.on the transaction last year.
A few of the committee said the contractor should
beresponsible for the safety of the Stand up to the
morning of the races.
Mr. Egan --- That is all right. He puts a man
there atnight with a gun (laughter).
Mr. O'Connor --- It is not for the sake of the
Standbut the timber.
Mr. Griffin said timber was a good deal dearer
lastyear than this year.
On Mr. O'Connor's suggestion, it was decided to
appoint the following committee to inspect the
Standafter its erection: Messrs Cunningham, Robinson,
andMcDrury.
Mr. O'Connor --- When Mr. McDrury is there the
standing orders will be put in force (laughter).
Mr. S.Black was brought before the meeting and
Mr.Cunninghamsaid the committee had decided not
toinclude in his contract the additional 90 feet of
railing.
The committee wished to know would he accept £32?
Mr. O'Connor --- A few members of the committee
think £30 sufficient.
Mr. Black said the railing consisted only of a
fewposts. He knew what the contract cost him last
year,and would not accept the offer.
He did not begrudge the job to anyone.
Mr. Egan thought Mr. Black should throw off 10s.
as asubscription. He should start off on the level
money.
Mr. Cunningham said the enclosure would be a
greatdeal bigger than last year.
Ultimately Mr. Black decided to accept £33. and
saidhe would have the work completed on Monday, 13th
May.He would also be responsible for the safety of
theStand up to morning of the races.
Mr. Egan --- He has backed the first winner
(laughter).

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Roscommon Herald Articles No. 104
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1 June 1901

THE PRESENTATION BROTHERS SCHOOL,
BOYLE.

ANNUAL SPORTS ON WHIT-MONDAY.

The morning of Whit-Monday opened threatening,
andthere was every indication of a downpour until
aboutmid-day, when the weather turned out beautifully,
andsplendid sunshine favoured the remainder of the
day.The day will be remembered for some time to come
bythe boys attending the Presentation Brothers'
Schoolsin Boyle, for on that day the good Brothers gave
themtheir annual outing and sports. The place
selectedthis year was the Drill Field, convenient to the
town,which was kindly placed at their disposal by Mr.
JohnCryan. A move was made for the field about 12
o'clock,the Brass and Reed Band of the Catholic
Associationplaying the elder boys whilst the infants were
conveyed in waggonettes to the area of
operations.During the progress of the programme, the Band
alsodiscoursed a charming selection of music, which
materially contributed to the success and
enjoyment ofthe afternoon. As regards the details, they were
gotthrough with clock-work regularity, a commendable
proceeding, for which Brothers Luke and Benedict,
whowere allotted this position, were mainly
responsible.The events were very evenly contested, close
finishesbeing the order of the day. This spoke eloquently
ofthe handicapping of Brother Wenceslaus and Mr.
P.Bealin. Brother Fenton had charge of the
refreshments, and extended hospitality of a
lavishscale to all. During the evening the boys were
treatedto a sumptuous luncheon, and if their happy
smilingfaces were to be taken as an index of the
pleasurethey felt, the extent of their enjoyment must be
unlimited. The Brothers were indefatigable in
lookingafter the comforts of all, and are deserving of
thehighest praise for the enjoyable day they
provided forthe boys. The hon.sec., Master Eric Cunningham
andMaster J. Cryan, also worked hard for the
success ofthe meeting. Amongst the large crowd present were
---
Very Rev. Canon Coyne, P.P.; Rev. Father
Humphries,C.C.; Rev. Father Lynch, C.C. and Rev. Father
Kelly,
C.C.

Details:-

50 Yards Infants' Race ---First Heat---P.Grady,
1;John
Daly, 2. Second Heat---John Walace, 1; John
Feely, 2.
Final---Patrick Grady, 1; John Walace, 2; Thomas
Turbett, 3.

100 Yards. First Class Boys--- First heat--- John
Beirne, 1; James Doherty, 2. Second heat--- Tom
Callery, 1; Joseph Stanford, 2.Final --- Tom
Callery,
1; James Doherty, 2.

100 Yards, Second Class Boys --- First heat
---Patrick
Maxwell, 1; Patrick Linskey, 2. Second heat ---
Tom
Linskey, 1; Patrick Higgins, 2. Third heat ---
John
Christie, 1; Francis McMorrough, 2. Final --- P.
Higgins, 1; P. Linskey,2.

Three-legged Race---First heat --- Michael
Staunton
and Patrick Cryan, 1; Patrick McManus and Joseph
Higgins, 2. Second heat --- John Cryan and
Francis
Egan, 1; George Leyland and James McGowan. 2.
Final
--- J. Cryan and F. Egan, 1; M. Staunton and P.
Cryan,
2.

200 Yards. Third Class Boys --- First Heat
---Patrick
Dodd. 1; Henry King, 2. Second heat --- Michaael
Higgins, 1; James Casey, 2.Final --- M. Higgins,
1; J.
Casey, 2.

200 Yards Fourth Class Boys --- First Heat ---
Michael
Grady, 1; John Spellman. 2. Second heat ---
Patrick
Stanford. 1; John Reynolds, 2. Third heat ---
Patrick
Brennan, 1; Peter Cryan, 2. Final --- John
Reynolds,
1; Michael Grady.2.

150 Yards. Fifth Class Boys --- Final --- Joseph
Kane.
1; Patrick Killelea, 2.

220 Yards Fifth Class Boys --- First heat ---
Francis
Egan, 1; Joseph Kilmartin, 2.Second heat ---
Terence
McCormack. 1; Thomas Redican , 2. Final --- J.
Kilmartin, 1; F.Egan, 2.

Donkey Race --- Michael Feely's "Green Lad!" 1;
Hubert Heran's "Mogeelore", 2. There were several
starters. "Green Lad" won comfortably by five
lenghts.

Obstacle Race --- Final --- George Leyland, 1;
Fred
Heran, 2.

220 Yards, Sixt Class Boys --- First heat ---M.
Roddy,
1; James Dowd, 2. Second heat --- J. Cryan, 1; A.
Leyland, 2. Final --- J. Dowd, 1; M. Reddy, 2.

440 Yards. for past and present pupils ---
Bernard
Cregg, 1; Davitt Cunningham, 2.

A football match between the Presentations and
Celticsconcluded a most varied and well-contested
programme.
The Presentations wore green and the Celtics,
red, theformer, after a most exciting and scientific
exposition of the manly game, being declared the
winners by two goals to nil. The following were
theteams:--- Presentations --- M. Leonard (goal), R.
Livingstone and P. Fitzpatrick (full backs) F.
Egan,
J. McDonagh, and J. Rice (half backs), H. Heran,
J.Fitzpatrick, E. Cunningham, J.Dowd, J. Cryan
(forwards). Celtics --- P. Dowd (goal), P. Bealin
and
B. Cregg (full backs), R. Rice, J. Higgins, A.
Leyland
(half backs), F. Heran, T. McGrath, D.
Cunningham, J.
Higgins and J. Cox (forwards).

Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 14:46:31 -0700 (PDT)
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Roscommon Herald Articles No. 105
Thanks to Paul Cryan for the typing
24 October 1903
Ownership of a Stream

Martin Cryan of Creggane, sued Michael Coleman,
of the same place, for
damages for trespass of cattle on his land. There
was also a title case as
to the ownership of a stream which divides the
holding, which was decided in
favour of Coleman without going into the case,
owing to some necessary
documents not being in court, which, however,
could not be produced.
Mr. E.J. McMorrow appeared for Cryan and Mr. H.
MacDermot was for Coleman.
Cryan deposed to Coleman's cattle trespassing on
his land. He went over to
the field where Coleman was working and told him
to put out the cow, but he
said he would not, and let her eat away. He held
he was entitled to half the
stream which divided his holding from Coleman's.
Mr. H. MacDermot - Did the cattle do any damage
only to come in on your
land? - They did not.
Is there any fence on this side? - There is no
fence to keep out cattle.
Did he ever make up the fence on your side with
you? - He did not.
Didn't the cattle come in because you would not
keep up that? - I broke it
down, when he broke down the fence on my side of
the river.
Thomas Harrington deposed to seeing Coleman's
cattle trespassing on Cryan's
land.
In reply to Mr. MacDermot, he said he was aware
Cryan broke down the fence
purposely. That was the most likely place the
cattle got in on the land.
John Drury deposed he knows the opening in the
fence since 1853. There was
no fence there but the river, which is a good
fence.
In answer to Mr. MacDermot, he said for the last
twenty years there was no
fence on Coleman's side of the river.
Coleman, the defendant, deposed to his
recollection there never was the
vestige of a fence on his side of the stream. He
actually made up the fence
on Cryan's side of the stream with Cryan, which
was the mearing fence.
To His Lordship - It was where Cryan broke the
fence that the cattle got in.
Mr. McMorrow - Was that breach always there to
allow Cryan's cattle down to
the stream? - No.
His Lordship dismissed the trespass case.

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Roscommon Herald Articles No. 106
Thanks to Paul Cryan for the typing
November 7 1903
Cryan v Same

Mrs. Honoria Cryan applied to have a fair rent
fixed on her holding at
Ballinultha, the area of which is 41a, 2r, 12p;
rent, £11; poor law
valuation, £3 15d.
Mr. McMorrow appeared for the tenant.
James Cryan, son of the tenant deposed that his
mother has the building 50
years. The holding is in six different parts, and
some of it is a mile from
the house. He has to trespass on other people's
lands to get to some of it.
The dwelling house is situated on a little patch
separated from the rest of
the holding. The rent was raised at one time from
£10 10s to £14 11s. He
claimed five acres reclamation and 150 perches
stone walls. He built a
slated granary.
Mr MacDermot, for the tenant, valued at £8 13s 6d
gross and £6 18s 6d net.
In reply to Mr. Goddard, he said he did not allow
anything for proximity to
Boyle.
Mr. Goddard - Would it be a benefit to him to be
near the creamery.
Mr. MacDermot - Well, I don't see what benefit it
is when they are only
giving 3d and 3.5d a gallon for milk.
Mr. Doolin, for the landlord, valued at £10 12s
6d gross and £10 0s 6d net.

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Roscommon Herald Articles No. 107
Thanks to Paul Cryan for the typing

2 Sept. 1905

Mullaghroe Petty Sessions
(Co. Sligo)
TRESPASS CASE FROM CLOGHER

The above monthly petty sessions were held on
Thursday, before Mr. F.B.
Henn, R.M.
Mr. Dermot MacDermot solicitor, Boyle, Mr. M.
O'Connor, solicitor, Sligo,
Mr. B. McGovern, D.I., R.I.C., Ballymote, and Mr.
Joseph Gillespie, C.P.S.,
were also present.

Row About a Pass

Thomas Cryan (John), Clogher, summoned Pat
Stenson, of the same locality,
for obstructing him in the use of a pass, and
also for assault.
Mr. Dermot MacDermot defended.
Cryan deposed on 14th July he was working his
mare and cart, bringing turf
from the bog, when the defendant came on the
passage before him, and tried
to stop him, though he was working on his pass
for over 22 years. Defendant
hit the mare with a shovel, and complainant
shouted at him not to do so any
more. Defendant then hit the complainant.
Mr. MacDermot - Was it to stop you Stenson came
on the passage? - I believe
it was.
Weren't you going through his holding?
- Yes, I'm going there for 22 years.
Isn't there another way? - Yes.
Why don't you go the other way? - I never went
that way.
Hadn't you to interfere with his fences? -
Certainly.
Why don't you go the road the other tenants go? -
I never went that way in my life.
He disputed your right to this pass? - Yes.
Mr. Henn - You only use the pass occasionally? -
Yes, sir. When I sell turf
I bring it out this way.
You sold turf this year? - Yes.
And used this pass? - Yes.
Michael Flannery was sworn, and stated he knew
the disputed pass, and he saw
the two men in handigrips. Stenson was opening a
dike, and Cryan's mare was
knocked down in the scuffle.
Cross-examined by Mr. MacDermot - Are you using
this pass? - Not latterly.
Does anyone use this pass? - Only to go to this
bank.
Has he any other way to get out? - No.
Did you hear him swear he had? - It is only a
sort of a way.
Hadn't he to cross a fence to bring his cart
along? - Yes.
Pat Stenson, the defendant, deposed two years ago
Cryan came to him and
demanded the pass. He said there was a pass there
before the defendant, and
it would be there after him. He allowed him the
pass, but in September last
Cryan tumbled down the fence at night and carted
out turf. He afterwards stopped him.
Mr. MacDermot - You made a pass for him? - Yes.
Cryan - Did you see me working at night?
- The man who was with you came and told me.
Mr. Henn - The case is dismissed without
prejudice, as there is a question
of title involved. It will have to go to the
Quarter Sessions.

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Roscommon Herald Articles No. 108
Thanks to Paul Cryan for the typing

 

29 April 1905
DEATH OF MR. MICHAEL CRYAN CARROWCRORY (CO.
SLIGO). [burial ground at Templevanny]

We regret to announce the death of Mr. Michael
Cryan, which took place at
his residence, Carrowcrory, on Monday, at the
good old age of 86 years.
Deceased, who was father of Mr. John M. Cryan,
the respected and popular
chairman of Boyle No. 2 District Council, was
held in the highest terms of
esteem by all who knew him. An old gentleman, who
possessed all those
desirable traits, which earned for him such
unequivocal admiration, his
death has been the subject of regret to all
aquainted with his family. The
funeral took place on Wednesday to the family
burial ground at Templevanny
and its exceedingly large dimensions was a
fitting demonstration of sympathy
for the family of one who during life had carried
such respect.
The chief mourners were:-Mr. John M. Cryan, J.P.
(son); Mrs. Taheny and Mrs.
Killelea (daughters); Mr. P. Keighron, N.T.; Mr.
J. Cryan, Mr P. Cryan,
Tully, Mr. M. Cryan, do (nephews); Mr. Taheny and
Mr. Killelea
(sons-in-law), Mr. B. Horan (brother-in-law).
Amongst those present were:-Rev D. O'Grady, P.P.;
Father McKeon, C.C.; R.
Gorman, Templevanny; J. Clarke, D.C., Boyle; T.J.
Devine, T.C., do; J.
Martin, do; James Coleman, do; J. Higgins, do; P.
Beirne, J. Cox, Master of
Workhouse, do; M. Gavagan, P. Candon, do; J.J.
Coleman, D.C.; J. Hannon,
J.P., Ballymote; M. Hannon, D.C., do; H. Markey,
do; J. Walsh, do; L.
Hannon, Keash; J. Breheny, P. Kane, Tree; J.
Coleman, Knockarush; J. Duffy,
D.C.; T. McDonagh, D.C.; P. Curley, D.C.; J.
Coghlan, H. McDermott-roe,
Ballinafad; C. Morrisroe, Omar; P. Duignan,
Derrynaskeagh; P. Gormley, do;
J. McCabe, Carrowcrory; J. Barnes, N.T., do; J.
Conry, do; M. Lydon, Boyle;
P. Clarke, Broher; E. Crofton, J. Stenson,
Gurteen; P. Horan, Smutterna; T.
Candon, Parkmore; Mr. Beatty and Son, Keash,
etc., etc.

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Roscommon Herald Articles No. 109
Thanks to Margaret Cryan for the typing
23 April 1904

The Exhibition Question

The committee of the proposed Exhibition of Irish
arts, industries,
manufactures, and resources wrote stating a
public
meeting which they
trusted would be thoroughly representative of the
nation, called to take
steps to promulgate the idea of holding an
Exhibition
in Dublin on similar
lines to that held in 1882, but on a much more
extensive scale, would be
held in the Rotunda Round Room, Mansion House, on
Wednesday, April 20th at 8
p.m.
Mr Cunningham thought the best course would be to
mark
this communication
"read". It might interfere with the proposed
International Exhibition.
Mr Devine thought no benefit would be derived
from an
Exhibition except it
was Inter-nation.
Mr McDermott --- There is a great deal of
nonsense
going on about the very same
thing.
Mr Cryan --- Confined to Ireland, it would be a
very
poor show.
Mr Devine said by having an International
Exhibition,
Irishmen could see the
produce of other countries and get much valuable
information.
It was decided to mark the communication "read".

National Convention

>From the office of the United Irish League a
circular
was received to the
effect that the National Convention of delegates
would
be held in the Round
Room, Mansion House, Dublin on Thursday 21st
April.
Delegates would be able
to avail of the cheap trains coming to Dublin on
the
previous day in
connection with the Spring Cattle Show. Two
credential
cards were enclosed
and a wish was expressed for delegates to attend.
Mr Devine --- We are supposed to send two
delegates
Mr Cryan said the names of the delegates should
have
been sent before the
16th April to ensure that their names would
appear in
the Press.
Clerk --- It is not much matter whether they
appear or
not (laughter)
Mr McDermott --- Appoint two now, and their names
will
go before the public.
Chairman --- I think you were appointed before Mr
McDermott and you did not go
(laughter)
Mr McDermott --- I will go
It was decided to appoint Messurs. Cryan and
McDermott
as delegates to
represent the Commissioners at the Convention.

 

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Middlesex, CT) (none specified) 057-09-6690 New
York
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KATHERINE CRYAN 01 Feb 1888 Jul 1968 07050
(Orange,
Essex, NJ) (none specified) 057-10-2705 New York
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ETHEL CRYAN 12 Sep 1903 Dec 1986 05401
(Burlington,
Chittenden, VT) (none specified) 058-52-9962 New
York
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JOHN CRYAN 26 Jun 1913 Jul 1987 01863 (North
Chelmsford, Middlesex, MA) (none specified)
063-10-8507 New York SS-5 Letter
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MARY CRYAN 14 Jun 1891 Mar 1965 (New Jersey)
(none
specified) 065-14-5262 New York SS-5 Letter
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WILLIAM CRYAN 11 Feb 1921 Sep 1977 (not
specified)
(none specified) 066-12-2065 New York SS-5 Letter
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MARY CRYAN 06 May 1901 Jun 1977 XX900 (U.S.
Consulate: IRELAND, REPUBLIC OF (DUBLIN)) (none
specified) 066-34-0340 New York SS-5 Letter
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MARION CRYAN 05 Sep 1896 20 Oct 1995 11725
(Commack,
Suffolk, NY) (none specified) 067-52-7761 New
York
SS-5 Letter
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EDITH CRYAN 18 Nov 1922 Nov 1974 (not specified)
(none specified) 069-18-9213 New York SS-5 Letter
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VINCENT F CRYAN 27 Dec 1914 19 Sep 1990 (not
specified) (none specified) 071-03-6218 New York
SS-5
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1974
13323 (Clinton, Oneida, NY) (none specified)
074-18-6738 New York SS-5 Letter
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MARGARET CRYAN 24 Mar 1884 Dec 1967 13357
(Ilion,
Herkimer, NY) (none specified) 077-09-9229 New
York
SS-5 Letter
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JAMES J CRYAN 28 May 1924 22 Apr 2000 (V) 85375
(Sun
City West, Maricopa, AZ) (none specified)
078-14-7227
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ALICE CRYAN 07 Dec 1893 Aug 1991 08618 (Trenton,
Mercer, NJ) (none specified) 079-05-9583 New York
SS-5
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THOMAS CRYAN 08 Apr 1899 Nov 1964 11225
(Brooklyn,
Kings, NY) (none specified) 083-09-4963 New York
SS-5
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HAZEL CRYAN 27 May 1892 Nov 1979 11361 (Bayside,
Queens, NY) 11361 (Bayside, Queens, NY)
083-20-8929
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JOHN CRYAN 17 Aug 1898 Oct 1986 05401
(Burlington,
Chittenden, VT) (none specified) 084-32-4329 New
York
SS-5 Letter
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ANGELA L CRYAN 13 Sep 1910 08 Aug 2000 (V) 01020
(Chicopee, Hampden, MA) (none specified)
090-03-5930
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SARAH CRYAN 22 Nov 1889 Dec 1967 11429 (Queens
Village, Queens, NY) (none specified) 092-01-3169
New
York SS-5 Letter
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JAMES CRYAN 04 Dec 1896 Oct 1967 33311 (Fort
Lauderdale, Broward, FL) (none specified)
092-07-7615
New York SS-5 Letter
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JOHN CRYAN 05 May 1882 Jan 1964 (New York) (none
specified) 093-01-2385 New York SS-5 Letter
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ROBERT CRYAN 25 Nov 1921 Mar 1970 (not
specified)
(none specified) 095-14-0818 New York SS-5 Letter
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JAMES CRYAN 21 Mar 1900 May 1977 11010 (Franklin
Square, Nassau, NY) (none specified) 096-03-6564
New
York SS-5 Letter
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DOROTHY CRYAN 13 Nov 1930 20 Dec 2001 (V) 32955
(Rockledge, Brevard, FL) (none specified)
100-24-0731
New York SS-5 Letter
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RAYMOND CRYAN 29 Aug 1905 Jan 1972 10462 (Bronx,
Bronx, NY) (none specified) 103-12-3486 New York
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HELEN CRYAN 13 May 1913 03 Oct 1990 (not
specified)
(none specified) 103-16-6251 New York SS-5 Letter
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MICHAEL CRYAN 08 Sep 1886 Aug 1965 (New York)
(none
specified) 103-32-3505 New York SS-5 Letter
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CLARICE CRYAN 09 Feb 1901 Sep 1976 14225
(Buffalo,
Erie, NY) (none specified) 104-14-0397 New York
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ROBERT T CRYAN 12 Nov 1908 28 Aug 1995 14127
(Orchard
Park, Erie, NY) (none specified) 105-10-3823 New
York
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WILLIAM CRYAN 22 Feb 1899 Jan 1980 14225
(Buffalo,
Erie, NY) 14224 (Buffalo, Erie, NY) 106-03-3363
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York SS-5 Letter
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JAMES T CRYAN 07 May 1913 Jul 1990 (not
specified)
(none specified) 106-03-3364 New York SS-5 Letter
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CATHERINE CRYAN 22 Jul 1888 Jan 1971 11230
(Brooklyn,
Kings, NY) (none specified) 106-32-2264 New York
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K CRYAN 02 May 1936 15 Mar 1990 (V) (PE) (none
specified) 109-34-2327 New York SS-5 Letter
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DOROTHY CRYAN 28 Feb 1926 20 Apr 2000 (V) 14225
(Buffalo, Erie, NY) (none specified) 110-22-9829
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York SS-5 Letter
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ALBERT G CRYAN 17 Jan 1914 09 Jun 1998 (V) 21224
(Baltimore, Baltimore City, MD) (none specified)
110-24-7917 New York SS-5 Letter
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CORNELIUS V CRYAN 18 Jul 1917 27 May 1996 11542
(Glen
Cove, Nassau, NY) (none specified) 112-09-0572
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York SS-5 Letter
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PATRICK CRYAN 28 Oct 1895 Aug 1965 XX900 (U.S.
Consulate: IRELAND, REPUBLIC OF (DUBLIN)) (none
specified) 113-20-5835 New York SS-5 Letter
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MARY CRYAN 05 Aug 1894 Jan 1987 10471 (Bronx,
Bronx,
NY) (none specified) 113-40-9807 New York SS-5
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JOHN CRYAN 08 Jul 1910 Apr 1981 11694 (Rockaway
Park,
Queens, NY) (none specified) 115-03-9329 New York
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FRANK CRYAN 17 Sep 1901 24 Feb 1989 33432 (Boca
Raton, Palm Beach, FL) (none specified)
116-01-3699
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GLADYS CRYAN 09 Aug 1896 Nov 1981 14225
(Buffalo,
Erie, NY) (none specified) 118-07-7995 New York
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MARGARET H CRYAN 31 Oct 1924 15 Nov 1990 (not
specified) (none specified) 121-22-5620 New York
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EUGENE CRYAN 15 Oct 1915 Nov 1980 10512 (Carmel,
Putnam, NY) 10512 (Carmel, Putnam, NY)
130-03-7533 New
York SS-5 Letter
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GEORGE D CRYAN 29 Nov 1925 22 Nov 2001 (V) 11545
(Glen Head, Nassau, NY) (none specified)
130-14-3695
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CHARLES CRYAN 13 Jan 1893 Oct 1966 07882
(Washington,
Warren, NJ) (none specified) 131-07-7920 New York
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ELLEN CRYAN 13 Jul 1912 Jan 1982 14127 (Orchard
Park,
Erie, NY) (none specified) 132-58-6010 New York
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ANNA CRYAN 05 Apr 1902 Aug 1976 14223 (Buffalo,
Erie,
NY) (none specified) 133-12-2190 New York SS-5
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FRANCIS CRYAN 12 Apr 1904 Jul 1972 14216
(Buffalo,
Erie, NY) (none specified) 133-24-8461 New York
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JOHN CRYAN 14 Jan 1901 May 1964 (New Jersey)
(none
specified) 135-09-0281 New Jersey SS-5 Letter
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MAE CRYAN 14 Jul 1913 Jul 1984 07730 (Hazlet,
Monmouth, NJ) (none specified) 135-09-2026 New
Jersey
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THOMAS CRYAN 22 Jan 1928 Dec 1986 07009 (Cedar
Grove,
Essex, NJ) 07009 (Cedar Grove, Essex, NJ)
135-20-1105
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HENRIETTA CRYAN 20 Feb 1890 Jan 1981 07050
(Orange,
Essex, NJ) (none specified) 135-54-3436 New
Jersey
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DOROTHEA CRYAN 04 Mar 1933 Mar 1970 08826 (Glen
Gardner, Hunterdon, NJ) (none specified)
136-26-7815
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HENRY CRYAN 29 Mar 1919 Dec 1965 (not specified)
(none specified) 136-28-3314 New Jersey SS-5
Letter
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PATRICK CRYAN 16 Aug 1900 Nov 1972 08075
(Riverside,
Burlington, NJ) (none specified) 137-18-3035 New
Jersey SS-5 Letter
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ROBERT B CRYAN 29 Dec 1941 20 Oct 2000 (P) (72)
(none
specified) 137-32-9521 New Jersey SS-5 Letter
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CHARLES CRYAN 06 Feb 1923 May 1980 (not
specified)
(none specified) 138-14-5772 New Jersey SS-5
Letter
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JULIA CRYAN 06 Jan 1877 Jan 1973 07874
(Stanhope,
Sussex, NJ) (none specified) 138-54-1631 New
Jersey
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FRANCIS CRYAN 23 Jul 1919 Apr 1984 90044 (Los
Angeles, Los Angeles, CA) (none specified)
139-24-5667
New Jersey SS-5 Letter
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JOHN CRYAN 29 Sep 1943 Jan 1971 (not specified)
(none
specified) 139-34-5736 New Jersey SS-5 Letter
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JOHN CRYAN 25 Feb 1929 Aug 1975 (not specified)
(none
specified) 139-36-2403 New Jersey SS-5 Letter
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MARY K CRYAN 28 Jun 1915 Jun 1992 20723 (Laurel,
Howard, MD) 20723 (Laurel, Howard, MD)
140-10-6211 New
Jersey SS-5 Letter
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BRIDGET CRYAN 23 Apr 1893 Oct 1979 07003
(Bloomfield,
Essex, NJ) (none specified) 140-34-9475 New
Jersey
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JAMES CRYAN 15 Jan 1884 Jun 1966 07042
(Montclair,
Essex, NJ) (none specified) 141-07-8038 New
Jersey
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BERNARD CRYAN 03 May 1917 Aug 1979 08826 (Glen
Gardner, Hunterdon, NJ) 08809 (Clinton,
Hunterdon, NJ)
141-18-3308 New Jersey SS-5 Letter
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JOHN CRYAN 29 Apr 1920 17 Dec 1996 (V) 08518
(Florence, Burlington, NJ) (none specified)
141-18-5586 New Jersey SS-5 Letter
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ANNE M CRYAN 29 Dec 1909 21 Aug 1989 07456
(Ringwood,
Passaic, NJ) (none specified) 141-22-5128 New
Jersey
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PATRICIA A CRYAN 06 Oct 1948 22 Jul 1997 (P)
(72)
(none specified) 141-46-0654 New Jersey SS-5
Letter
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CLARA J CRYAN 06 Apr 1913 02 Aug 1996 (V) 08610
(Trenton, Mercer, NJ) (none specified)
142-01-3975 New
Jersey SS-5 Letter
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JOSEPH CRYAN 01 Jan 1910 Dec 1985 08619
(Trenton,
Mercer, NJ) 08619 (Trenton, Mercer, NJ)
142-01-8222
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JOHN J CRYAN 11 Jan 1901 13 Jun 1992 (not
specified)
(none specified) 142-03-6936 New Jersey SS-5
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JOHN J CRYAN 29 Jan 1919 04 Apr 1993 07747
(Matawan,
Monmouth, NJ) (none specified) 142-14-7895 New
Jersey
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HOHN CRYAN 23 Jun 1923 Feb 1976 (not specified)
(none
specified) 142-16-6477 New Jersey SS-5 Letter
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MARILYN R CRYAN 02 Mar 1937 30 Sep 1995 (not
specified) (none specified) 142-28-6871 New
Jersey
SS-5 Letter
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DORIS H CRYAN 17 Feb 1928 31 Dec 1998 (V) 07013
(Clifton, Passaic, NJ) (none specified)
143-20-5199
New Jersey SS-5 Letter
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THOMAS W CRYAN 01 Dec 1889 15 Jun 1973 (V) 07003
(Bloomfield, Essex, NJ) (none specified)
143-30-4063
New Jersey SS-5 Letter
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CHARLES J CRYAN 19 Jun 1928 04 Jul 2001 (V)
08005
(Barnegat, Ocean, NJ) (none specified)
144-20-4113 New
Jersey SS-5 Letter
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ROBERT CRYAN 18 Dec 1910 Jan 1983 07730 (Hazlet,
Monmouth, NJ) 07730 (Hazlet, Monmouth, NJ)
145-03-8085
New Jersey SS-5 Letter
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JOSEPH CRYAN 19 Apr 1926 Jul 1981 08628
(Trenton,
Mercer, NJ) 08608 (Trenton, Mercer, NJ)
145-16-6745
New Jersey SS-5 Letter
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CHARLES J CRYAN 10 Feb 1923 03 May 1980 59068
(Red
Lodge, Carbon, MT) 84107 (Salt Lake City, Salt
Lake,
UT) 145-16-7398 New Jersey SS-5 Letter
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Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 04:08:43 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> | Block Address | Add to Address Book
Subject: [Cryan et al.] Social Security Death Index 3
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Name Birth Death Last Residence Last Benefit SSN
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MICHAEL J CRYAN 17 Sep 1956 06 Feb 2002 (V)
07934
(Gladstone, Somerset, NJ) (none specified)
145-50-0823
New Jersey SS-5 Letter
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EDWARD CRYAN 02 Aug 1909 26 Sep 1994 18045
(Easton,
Northampton, PA) (none specified) 146-05-2923 New
Jersey SS-5 Letter
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MICHAEL CRYAN 09 Nov 1895 Jul 1967 08518
(Florence,
Burlington, NJ) (none specified) 146-07-0734 New
Jersey SS-5 Letter
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MARY M CRYAN 17 Mar 1895 15 Mar 1975 (V) 07747
(Matawan, Monmouth, NJ) (none specified)
148-14-2186
New Jersey SS-5 Letter
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ANNE CRYAN 14 Oct 1881 Sep 1968 07050 (Orange,
Essex,
NJ) (none specified) 150-18-1972 New Jersey SS-5
Letter
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RAYMOND CRYAN 13 Feb 1930 Apr 1979 (not
specified)
(none specified) 150-22-4081 New Jersey SS-5
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THOMAS CRYAN 14 Jun 1911 Jan 1971 (not
specified)
(none specified) 151-03-4858 New Jersey SS-5
Letter
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WALTER L CRYAN 14 Oct 1931 31 Oct 1992 32958
(Sebastian, Indian River, FL) (none specified)
151-24-7400 New Jersey SS-5 Letter
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PAUL CRYAN 02 Jan 1934 May 1986 33433 (Boca
Raton,
Palm Beach, FL) 33433 (Boca Raton, Palm Beach,
FL)
151-26-7171 New Jersey SS-5 Letter
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ELLEN CRYAN 05 Dec 1899 Sep 1983 XX800 (U.S.
Consulate: UNITED KINGDOM (LONDON)) (none
specified)
151-36-2227 New Jersey SS-5 Letter
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JOHN A CRYAN 14 May 1911 16 Feb 1991 20723
(Laurel,
Howard, MD) (none specified) 153-05-6879 New
Jersey
SS-5 Letter
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ROSE CRYAN 26 Sep 1912 Nov 1987 08619 (Trenton,
Mercer, NJ) (none specified) 153-07-6884 New
Jersey
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RUTH L CRYAN 06 Jul 1905 May 1996 08858
(Oldwick,
Hunterdon, NJ) (none specified) 153-20-8220 New
Jersey
SS-5 Letter
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WILLIAM CRYAN 28 Jun 1895 Sep 1972 07863
(Oxford,
Warren, NJ) (none specified) 154-01-2611 New
Jersey
SS-5 Letter
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PAULINE CRYAN 05 Nov 1909 Jan 1987 33445 (Delray
Beach, Palm Beach, FL) 33445 (Delray Beach, Palm
Beach, FL) 154-12-3891 New Jersey SS-5 Letter
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WALTER L CRYAN 10 Aug 1901 Jan 1992 (not
specified)
(none specified) 154-12-4645 New Jersey SS-5
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CATHERINE M CRYAN 01 Mar 1914 21 Jul 1999 (V)
08638
(Trenton, Mercer, NJ) (none specified)
154-12-7077 New
Jersey SS-5 Letter
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NORA E CRYAN 04 Aug 1908 10 May 1996 08628
(Trenton,
Mercer, NJ) (none specified) 154-12-7092 New
Jersey
SS-5 Letter
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ANNA CRYAN 08 Jul 1902 Aug 1974 08629 (Trenton,
Mercer, NJ) (none specified) 155-36-7400 New
Jersey
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JOSEPH CRYAN 31 Jul 1892 Feb 1971 07018 (East
Orange,
Essex, NJ) (none specified) 156-09-7819 New
Jersey
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EVEL CRYAN 22 Aug 1924 05 Feb 1988 08753 (Toms
River,
Ocean, NJ) (none specified) 156-16-3471 New
Jersey
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MARY CRYAN 01 Jan 1893 Feb 1986 08601 (Trenton,
Mercer, NJ) (none specified) 156-16-3872 New
Jersey
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FLORENCE CRYAN 02 Aug 1900 Dec 1973 08075
(Riverside,
Burlington, NJ) (none specified) 157-01-4297 New
Jersey SS-5 Letter
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EDWARD C CRYAN 23 Aug 1923 31 Mar 1994 (not
specified) (none specified) 157-16-0761 New
Jersey
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CHARLES CRYAN 10 Aug 1908 Apr 1986 33708 (Saint
Petersburg, Pinellas, FL) (none specified)
158-10-4675
New Jersey SS-5 Letter
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ALICE M CRYAN 26 May 1926 06 Feb 2000 (V) 19010
(Bryn
Mawr, Delaware, PA) (none specified) 159-34-7530
Pennsylvania SS-5 Letter
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EUGENE CRYAN 14 Oct 1924 Mar 1987 (not
specified)
(none specified) 163-30-9810 Pennsylvania SS-5
Letter
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JOHN A CRYAN 11 Apr 1966 12 Sep 2000 (V) 18702
(Wilkes Barre, Luzerne, PA) (none specified)
164-48-8281 Pennsylvania SS-5 Letter
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PAULINE CRYAN 12 Nov 1899 Aug 1976 19111
(Philadelphia, Philadelphia, PA) (none specified)
176-26-5908 Pennsylvania SS-5 Letter
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MARY CRYAN 05 Oct 1910 Dec 1974 (not specified)
(none
specified) 190-32-5598 Pennsylvania SS-5 Letter
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EUGENIE CRYAN 15 Dec 1888 Jan 1973 19010 (Bryn
Mawr,
Delaware, PA) (none specified) 191-36-5366
Pennsylvania SS-5 Letter
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MARJORIE N CRYAN 17 Dec 1922 28 Dec 1996 (V)
30327
(Atlanta, Fulton, GA) (none specified)
208-12-7552
Pennsylvania SS-5 Letter
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ALICE M CRYAN 20 Mar 1913 Aug 1990 (not
specified)
(none specified) 219-42-6269 Maryland SS-5 Letter
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ADA CRYAN 02 Sep 1886 Aug 1977 24541 (Danville,
Danville City, VA) 24012 (Roanoke, Roanoke City,
VA)
230-09-9452 Virginia SS-5 Letter
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ROBERT CRYAN 28 Sep 1904 Feb 1980 07764 (West
Long
Branch, Monmouth, NJ) (none specified)
261-03-4581
Florida SS-5 Letter
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HOWARD CRYAN 08 Aug 1907 Jan 1980 06460
(Milford, New
Haven, CT) 06460 (Milford, New Haven, CT)
264-03-6374
Florida SS-5 Letter
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GLADYS H CRYAN 28 Nov 1916 10 Dec 1997 (V) 33811
(Lakeland, Polk, FL) (none specified) 265-44-2024
Florida SS-5 Letter
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MARGARET CRYAN 11 Mar 1911 Mar 1980 43623
(Toledo,
Lucas, OH) 43614 (Toledo, Lucas, OH) 268-32-6457
Ohio
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JAMES CRYAN 03 Oct 1894 Apr 1964 (Ohio) (none
specified) 269-03-6293 Ohio SS-5 Letter
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MADALENE CRYAN 02 May 1941 Jan 1970 (not
specified)
(none specified) 272-36-6388 Ohio SS-5 Letter
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WILLIAM CRYAN 15 Nov 1895 Jan 1983 43015
(Delaware,
Delaware, OH) (none specified) 273-14-3888 Ohio
SS-5
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MARGARET CRYAN 30 Nov 1925 18 Aug 1997 (V) 43082
(Westerville, Delaware, OH) (none specified)
279-20-7824 Ohio SS-5 Letter
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ANNA CRYAN 25 Oct 1890 Mar 1982 60453 (Oak Lawn,
Cook, IL) (none specified) 283-03-0788 Ohio SS-5
Letter
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MARY CRYAN 24 Jan 1888 Jul 1973 43623 (Toledo,
Lucas,
OH) (none specified) 287-05-4168 Ohio SS-5 Letter
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JOHN CRYAN 10 Jun 1892 Nov 1970 43081
(Westerville,
Franklin, OH) (none specified) 288-05-5584 Ohio
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JAMES F CRYAN 12 Mar 1913 12 Feb 1995 43623
(Toledo,
Lucas, OH) (none specified) 292-03-5807 Ohio SS-5
Letter
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NORMA CRYAN 30 Aug 1895 Jan 1982 43551
(Perrysburg,
Wood, OH) (none specified) 297-44-3081 Ohio SS-5
Letter
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ROBERT CRYAN 08 Jun 1917 Nov 1975 (not
specified)
(none specified) 299-07-3528 Ohio SS-5 Letter
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ANNA CRYAN 07 May 1894 Jan 1983 43081
(Westerville,
Franklin, OH) (none specified) 299-46-8300 Ohio
SS-5
Letter
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LEO CRYAN 18 Jul 1903 Nov 1973 60471 (Richton
Park,
Cook, IL) (none specified) 319-03-3877 Illinois

 

 

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IRENE CRYAN 03 Mar 1911 Jun 1985 92686
(California)
(none specified) 322-09-9388 Illinois SS-5 Letter
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MICHAEL CRYAN 10 Feb 1889 Jan 1965 (Illinois)
(none
specified) 322-18-2044 Illinois SS-5 Letter
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LUCILLE CRYAN 01 Dec 1919 Oct 1975 (not
specified)
(none specified) 322-22-6013 Illinois SS-5 Letter
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EMILY CRYAN 31 May 1906 Feb 1986 60633 (Chicago,
Cook, IL) (none specified) 335-14-7557 Illinois
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ANTHONY CRYAN 06 Mar 1907 Apr 1982 91770
(Rosemead,
Los Angeles, CA) (none specified) 338-10-2588
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SHIRLEY L CRYAN 12 Jun 1934 22 Oct 2001 (V)
93950
(Pacific Grove, Monterey, CA) (none specified)
338-26-4176 Illinois SS-5 Letter
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THOMAS P CRYAN 09 Aug 1921 29 Sep 1996 (V) 60453
(Oak
Lawn, Cook, IL) (none specified) 341-18-2063
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NAOMA CRYAN 07 Oct 1889 Mar 1968 60618 (Chicago,
Cook, IL) (none specified) 342-22-4014 Illinois
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MARTIN J CRYAN 19 Jul 1949 21 Apr 1991 (V) 90046
(Los
Angeles, Los Angeles, CA) (none specified)
344-42-5842
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THOMAS CRYAN 13 Jul 1893 Aug 1970 60453 (Oak
Lawn,
Cook, IL) (none specified) 345-07-3816 Illinois
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FLORENCE M CRYAN 09 Jun 1927 20 May 2000 (P)
(72)
(none specified) 345-20-5312 Illinois SS-5 Letter
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ROLAND M CRYAN 10 May 1900 15 Jun 1987 (V) 91770
(Rosemead, Los Angeles, CA) (none specified)
351-07-2024 Illinois SS-5 Letter
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MARY CRYAN 06 Nov 1901 Jan 1986 49074 (Nazareth,
Kalamazoo, MI) (none specified) 353-20-0150
Illinois
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PATRICK CRYAN 03 Mar 1883 Oct 1963 (Illinois)
(none
specified) 354-10-4894 Illinois SS-5 Letter
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D M CRYAN 16 Aug 1939 Apr 1988 (not specified)
(none
specified) 355-32-9616 Illinois SS-5 Letter
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KATHERINE CRYAN 02 Nov 1903 03 Mar 1989 60419
(Dolton, Cook, IL) (none specified) 360-24-4091
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MARGARET B CRYAN 17 Jun 1923 01 Dec 1987 (V)
32746
(Lake Mary, Seminole, FL) 32746 (Lake Mary,
Seminole,
FL) 362-22-2359 Michigan SS-5 Letter
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EMMA A CRYAN 20 Jul 1898 20 Jul 1991 (not
specified)
(none specified) 362-40-4737 Michigan SS-5 Letter
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LOUISE P CRYAN 17 Mar 1918 Sep 1992 49022
(Benton
Harbor, Berrien, MI) (none specified) 363-01-5337
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BEATRICE CRYAN 04 May 1896 Oct 1973 13357
(Ilion,
Herkimer, NY) (none specified) 365-05-3001
Michigan
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MARY CRYAN 22 Jul 1898 Jan 1984 49507 (Grand
Rapids,
Kent, MI) (none specified) 368-10-9378 Michigan
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LOUISE P CRYAN 17 Mar 1918 Sep 1992 49022
(Benton
Harbor, Berrien, MI) (none specified) 370-05-3581
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LOUISE CRYAN 03 Dec 1890 May 1984 49047
(Dowagiac,
Cass, MI) (none specified) 371-68-1592 Michigan
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JESSIE M CRYAN 12 Apr 1892 Jan 1989 49508 (Grand
Rapids, Kent, MI) (none specified) 380-01-7166
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ANNA G CRYAN 02 Apr 1909 26 Mar 1992 (not
specified)
(none specified) 380-54-7755 Michigan SS-5 Letter
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ELMA CRYAN 30 Sep 1895 Feb 1967 49505 (Grand
Rapids,
Kent, MI) (none specified) 384-34-0216 Michigan
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PATRICK J CRYAN 05 Dec 1915 18 Jan 1996 49022
(Benton
Harbor, Berrien, MI) (none specified) 385-07-8347
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KATHERINE CRYAN 20 Sep 1904 Jul 1981 33707
(Saint
Petersburg, Pinellas, FL) (none specified)
447-03-1698
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CORNELIUS CRYAN 22 Feb 1922 Oct 1976 77022
(Houston,
Harris, TX) (none specified) 449-28-7831 Texas
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MARY E CRYAN 26 Jun 1944 17 Aug 2000 (V) 72740
(Huntsville, Madison, AR) (none specified)
450-84-3280
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AILENE P CRYAN 15 May 1925 01 May 1990 (V) 75151
(Corsicana, Navarro, TX) (none specified)
451-32-8911
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JIMMY G CRYAN 25 Oct 1932 14 Sep 1996 (V) 75901
(Lufkin, Angelina, TX) (none specified)
452-44-6531
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CORNELIUS CRYAN 27 Jul 1890 May 1965 (Texas)
(none
specified) 457-22-5711 Texas SS-5 Letter
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MARY CRYAN 04 Feb 1887 Dec 1981 77093 (Houston,
Harris, TX) (none specified) 457-86-0880 Texas
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DOROTHY F CRYAN 24 Jun 1923 05 Apr 2000 (V)
75853
(Montalba, Anderson, TX) (none specified)
465-24-2021
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FRANCES I CRYAN 04 Dec 1925 12 Apr 1993 21403
(Annapolis, Anne Arundel, MD) (none specified)
479-24-0426 Iowa SS-5 Letter
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JOHN CRYAN 01 Jul 1898 Apr 1973 64105 (Kansas
City,
Jackson, MO) (none specified) 498-30-1641
Missouri
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CHARLES CRYAN 11 Jul 1906 Jul 1968 57201
(Watertown,
Codington, SD) (none specified) 501-10-6905 North
Dakota SS-5 Letter
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THOMAS CRYAN 19 Dec 1909 Apr 1968 (not
specified)
(none specified) 501-30-2497 North Dakota SS-5
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FLORENCE CRYAN 13 Oct 1899 May 1978 57201
(Watertown,
Codington, SD) 57201 (Watertown, Codington, SD)
502-14-2704 North Dakota SS-5 Letter
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LORNE CRYAN 23 Jul 1898 Sep 1986 58075
(Wahpeton,
Richland, ND) (none specified) 502-16-1503 North
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GERTRUDE A CRYAN 29 Dec 1907 22 Apr 1996 58237
(Grafton, Walsh, ND) (none specified) 502-38-1978
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JOSEPH CRYAN 18 Oct 1898 Feb 1975 60463 (Palos
Heights, Cook, IL) (none specified) 505-03-5457
Nebraska SS-5 Letter
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PATRICK CRYAN 16 Sep 1898 Jun 1972 68757
(Newcastle,
Dixon, NE) (none specified) 508-16-8066 Nebraska
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THOMAS CRYAN 16 Oct 1905 Oct 1979 80211 (Denver,
Denver, CO) 80218 (Denver, Denver, CO)
521-05-6833
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JOHN CRYAN 02 Jul 1903 Jan 1958 (not specified)
(none
specified) 521-09-7684 Colorado SS-5 Letter
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RICHARD CRYAN 03 Feb 1907 Apr 1983 80904
(Colorado
Springs, El Paso, CO) (none specified)
523-03-5188
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EMMA CRYAN 05 May 1906 Jun 1974 80216 (Denver,
Denver, CO) (none specified) 523-07-0343 Colorado
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OLIVE H CRYAN 11 Dec 1905 22 Aug 1997 (V) 75216
(Dallas, Dallas, TX) (none specified) 523-62-3293
Colorado SS-5 Letter
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GLENNA CRYAN 08 Mar 1899 Sep 1967 91006
(Arcadia, Los
Angeles, CA) (none specified) 546-22-0032
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DOROTHY C CRYAN 02 Mar 1894 Feb 1992 90640
(Montebello, Los Angeles, CA) (none specified)
546-24-4446 California SS-5 Letter
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JOHN CRYAN 23 Sep 1895 Oct 1958 (not specified)
(none
specified) 550-05-7686 California SS-5 Letter
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JACK CRYAN 18 Aug 1923 Dec 1982 96114
(Janesville,
Lassen, CA) 96114 (Janesville, Lassen, CA)
552-28-1065
California SS-5 Letter
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MAXINE E CRYAN 26 Jul 1915 11 Mar 2001 (V) 95969
(Paradise, Butte, CA) (none specified)
558-07-4072
California SS-5 Letter
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PAUL CRYAN 31 Oct 1904 Jun 1981 91776 (San
Gabriel,
Los Angeles, CA) 91770 (Rosemead, Los Angeles,
CA)
559-28-6870 California SS-5 Letter
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ALYS CRYAN 23 Sep 1914 May 1974 (not specified)
(none
specified) 559-38-1992 California SS-5 Letter
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EILEEN CRYAN 26 Sep 1894 Feb 1973 92708
(Fountain
Valley, Orange, CA) (none specified) 560-21-3850
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JOHN J CRYAN 18 Apr 1935 30 Dec 1995 (V) 92629
(Dana
Point, Orange, CA) 92629 (Dana Point, Orange, CA)
562-44-3055 California SS-5 Letter
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JESSIE M CRYAN 21 May 1910 21 Apr 1999 (V) 95037
(Morgan Hill, Santa Clara, CA) (none specified)
563-26-0447 California SS-5 Letter
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BARBARA H CRYAN 24 Jan 1929 Jan 1995 92634 (not
specified) 96114 (Janesville, Lassen, CA)
563-34-4071
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BARBARA J CRYAN 13 Feb 1933 11 Mar 2000 (V)
91205
(Glendale, Los Angeles, CA) (none specified)
571-74-3260 California SS-5 Letter
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LESTER CRYAN 12 Mar 1897 Feb 1966 (Florida)
(none
specified) 577-34-7716 District of Columbia SS-5
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EDWARD R CRYAN 07 Feb 1910 27 Oct 1993 95969
(Paradise, Butte, CA) (none specified)
700-01-7216
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CHARLES H CRYAN 19 Aug 1914 27 Mar 1988 (VA)
(none
specified) 717-05-8093 Long-time or retired
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JAMES CRINE 09 Nov 1897 Sep 1976 07765
(Wickatunk,
Monmouth, NJ) (none specified) 003-36-0048 New
Hampshire SS-5 Letter
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IRVING F CRINE 18 Sep 1908 08 Apr 1991 02148
(Malden,
Middlesex, MA) (none specified) 011-03-2629
Massachusetts SS-5 Letter
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JOSEPH P CRINE 01 Jul 1919 06 May 2000 (V) 02478
(Belmont, Middlesex, MA) (none specified)
013-12-1160
Massachusetts SS-5 Letter
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ROBERT J CRINE 13 Dec 1944 04 Jun 2002 (P) (72)
(none
specified) 016-34-8128 Massachusetts SS-5 Letter
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HELEN M CRINE 07 Oct 1906 21 Oct 1995 (not
specified)
(none specified) 022-48-8325 Massachusetts SS-5
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FLORENCE A CRINE 29 Sep 1922 28 Aug 1998 (V)
02178
(Belmont, Middlesex, MA) (none specified)
024-18-0244
Massachusetts SS-5 Letter
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WALLACE CRINE 18 Feb 1893 Aug 1964
(Massachusetts)
(none specified) 026-18-1679 Massachusetts SS-5
Letter
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SIDNEY CRINE 09 Mar 1901 Jul 1987 06340 (Groton,
New
London, CT) (none specified) 042-09-2110
Connecticut
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SOPHIE E CRINE 20 Mar 1903 31 Jan 1998 (V) 01230
(Great Barrington, Berkshire, MA) (none
specified)
049-40-3220 Connecticut SS-5 Letter
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RAYMOND CRINE 05 Jun 1907 Aug 1964 (New York)
(none
specified) 075-01-8658 New York SS-5 Letter
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RUSSELL M CRINE 19 Feb 1928 07 Dec 1994 07830
(Califon, Hunterdon, NJ) (none specified)
077-22-9333
New York SS-5 Letter
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CARLETON CRINE 23 Dec 1921 Jul 1973 (not
specified)
(none specified) 082-18-6346 New York SS-5 Letter
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EDNA CRINE 08 Jun 1897 Sep 1984 12771 (Port
Jervis,
Orange, NY) (none specified) 114-03-2487 New York
SS-5
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ERNEST CRINE 01 Jul 1899 Jun 1981 10940
(Middletown,
Orange, NY) (none specified) 115-05-7429 New York
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HARRY CRINE 12 Feb 1901 Jan 1979 07722 (Colts
Neck,
Monmouth, NJ) 07728 (Freehold, Monmouth, NJ)
136-30-4183 New Jersey SS-5 Letter
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WINIFRED CRINE 20 Jan 1913 Aug 1981 33462 (Lake
Worth, Palm Beach, FL) 33462 (Lake Worth, Palm
Beach,
FL) 136-44-6412 New Jersey SS-5 Letter
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MARGARET CRINE 25 Aug 1870 15 May 1966 (V) 08879
(South Amboy, Middlesex, NJ) (none specified)
137-12-6005 New Jersey SS-5 Letter
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JAMES CRINE 13 Feb 1921 Nov 1978 (not specified)
07747 (Matawan, Monmouth, NJ) 139-18-2150 New
Jersey
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FRED A CRINE 01 Feb 1899 15 May 1974 (V) 07701
(Red
Bank, Monmouth, NJ) (none specified) 140-36-2396
New
Jersey SS-5 Letter
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MARY CRINE 30 Apr 1903 Dec 1979 08051 (Mantua,
Gloucester, NJ) (none specified) 143-03-7043 New
Jersey SS-5 Letter
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PHILIP CRINE 13 Jul 1907 Apr 1974 85031
(Phoenix,
Maricopa, AZ) (none specified) 143-03-9207 New
Jersey
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PAUL CRINE 11 Aug 1912 Jul 1980 07728 (Freehold,
Monmouth, NJ) (none specified) 143-03-9679 New
Jersey
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ROBERT CRINE 29 Jul 1935 Aug 1979 (not
specified)
08648 (Trenton, Mercer, NJ) 143-26-7328 New
Jersey
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WILLIAM CRINE 15 Feb 1898 Dec 1974 31728 (Cairo,
Grady, GA) (none specified) 145-10-7570 New
Jersey
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WILLIAM CRINE 09 Mar 1893 Apr 1970 89106 (Las
Vegas,
Clark, NV) (none specified) 146-32-3406 New
Jersey
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MARY H CRINE 17 May 1913 03 Jan 1991 07728
(Freehold,
Monmouth, NJ) (none specified) 147-09-9054 New
Jersey
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SUSAN CRINE 26 Feb 1889 Dec 1970 07747 (Matawan,
Monmouth, NJ) (none specified) 147-20-0461 New
Jersey
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M CRINE 21 May 1909 May 1984 08260 (Wildwood,
Cape
May, NJ) (none specified) 147-36-8801 New Jersey
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HAROLD CRINE 18 Jan 1911 Oct 1977 07735
(Keyport,
Monmouth, NJ) 07722 (Colts Neck, Monmouth, NJ)
148-09-7306 New Jersey SS-5 Letter
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WILLIAM CRINE 23 Sep 1928 03 Aug 1995 85305
(Glendale, Maricopa, AZ) (none specified)
148-16-7304
New Jersey SS-5 Letter
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ELLEN S CRINE 03 Oct 1910 04 Jan 1996 07765
(Wickatunk, Monmouth, NJ) (none specified)
148-30-3529
New Jersey SS-5 Letter
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CHARLES CRINE 04 Nov 1912 Nov 1980 07722 (Colts
Neck,
Monmouth, NJ) 07722 (Colts Neck, Monmouth, NJ)
148-30-3890 New Jersey SS-5 Letter
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BESSIE CRINE 25 Aug 1892 Feb 1969 07751
(Morganville,
Monmouth, NJ) (none specified) 149-16-4083 New
Jersey
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FREDERICK A CRINE 17 Dec 1935 Apr 1992 07701
(Red
Bank, Monmouth, NJ) (none specified) 153-24-2251
New
Jersey SS-5 Letter
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EDWARD CRINE 05 Apr 1897 Feb 1969 07735
(Keyport,
Monmouth, NJ) (none specified) 153-28-7781 New
Jersey
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MICHAEL CRINE 13 Aug 1895 Apr 1964 (New Jersey)
(none
specified) 153-28-8105 New Jersey SS-5 Letter
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MARY CRINE 01 Dec 1906 Aug 1981 07735 (Keyport,
Monmouth, NJ) 07735 (Keyport, Monmouth, NJ)
153-30-3773 New Jersey SS-5 Letter
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JOHN R CRINE 01 Mar 1911 06 Feb 1988 08611
(Trenton,
Mercer, NJ) (none specified) 157-01-1025 New
Jersey
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JAMES D CRINE 15 May 1923 19 Jun 1998 (V) 89102
(Las
Vegas, Clark, NV) (none specified) 157-16-3465
New
Jersey SS-5 Letter
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ELLA CRINE 10 Nov 1891 Dec 1977 07762 (Spring
Lake,
Monmouth, NJ) 07728 (Freehold, Monmouth, NJ)
158-26-1491 New Jersey SS-5 Letter
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HELENA E CRINE 13 Jul 1903 21 Sep 1997 (V) 07701
(Red
Bank, Monmouth, NJ) (none specified) 158-26-1594
New
Jersey SS-5 Letter
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THOMAS CRINE 11 Aug 1893 Nov 1965 19143
(Philadelphia, Philadelphia, PA) (none specified)
166-05-1543 Pennsylvania SS-5 Letter
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CATHERINE CRINE 19 Dec 1896 Jun 1990 19143
(Philadelphia, Philadelphia, PA) (none specified)
167-16-1197 Pennsylvania SS-5 Letter
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JOHN CRINE 04 Jun 1935 Apr 1979 (not specified)
92626
(Costa Mesa, Orange, CA) 187-28-6143 Pennsylvania
SS-5
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JOSEPH CRINE 27 Sep 1910 Aug 1980 19143
(Philadelphia, Philadelphia, PA) 19130
(Philadelphia,
Philadelphia, PA) 197-03-4499 Pennsylvania SS-5
Letter
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MARY CRINE 24 Jul 1923 Nov 1974 (not specified)
(none
specified) 197-18-8520 Pennsylvania SS-5 Letter
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CARRIE W CRINE 10 Jan 1908 05 Mar 1999 (V) 31728
(Cairo, Grady, GA) (none specified) 252-05-4393
Georgia SS-5 Letter
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LAZARUS CRINE 15 Nov 1894 Feb 1981 35216
(Birmingham,
Jefferson, AL) 31702 (Albany, Dougherty, GA)
263-05-6159 Florida SS-5 Letter
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H D CRINE 26 Oct 1957 Jan 1991 (not specified)
(none
specified) 280-62-9463 Ohio SS-5 Letter
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HAROLD CRINE 30 Jun 1933 Jan 1973 (not
specified)
(none specified) 281-26-7932 Ohio SS-5 Letter
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GEORGE CRINE 30 Nov 1896 Aug 1975 44305 (Akron,
Summit, OH) (none specified) 290-10-6428 Ohio
SS-5
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ARNOLD J CRINE 07 Jun 1932 31 Dec 1998 (P) 91911
(Chula Vista, San Diego, CA) (none specified)
297-26-0672 Ohio SS-5 Letter
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SARAH CRINE 17 Nov 1902 Aug 1982 44305 (Akron,
Summit, OH) (none specified) 301-42-6348 Ohio
SS-5
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ERNESTINE CRINE 31 May 1890 Oct 1973 36301
(Dothan,
Houston, AL) (none specified) 417-62-1832 Alabama
SS-5
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H CRINE 31 Jul 1894 Aug 1978 36303 (Dothan,
Houston,
AL) 36301 (Dothan, Houston, AL) 419-10-7675
Alabama
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RILLA L CRINE 08 Feb 1892 Dec 1989 36303
(Dothan,
Houston, AL) 36301 (Dothan, Houston, AL)
419-10-8492
Alabama SS-5 Letter
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MINNA CRINE 17 May 1888 Apr 1966 36301 (Dothan,
Houston, AL) (none specified) 419-10-8495 Alabama
SS-5
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CAROLE A CRINE 10 Jul 1953 06 Mar 2000 (V) 92307
(Apple Valley, San Bernardino, CA) (none
specified)
573-92-6562 California SS-5 Letter
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RUSSELL CRINE 03 Feb 1902 Aug 1976 12722
(Burlingham,
Sullivan, NY) (none specified) 706-14-0593
Long-time
or retired railroad workers SS-5 Letter
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Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 04:15:16 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> | This is Spam | Add to Address Book
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I dont have time to go through the Crehans and
Creans
as yet but here is the results for a general
search
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Last Name CREHAN 265

Last Name CREAN 456
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 04:17:46 -0700 (PDT)
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List of sites

Social Security Death Index
http://ssdi.rootsweb.com/

http://www.forbes.com/bow/b2c/category.jhtml?id=71
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From: "Lyle Staehnke" <ljstandak@webtv.net> | This is Spam | Add to Address Book
Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2002 09:25:09 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Cryan et al.] David Cryan
To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

 

From: quarmage@hotmail.com (D Cryan) Date: Fri,
Jul 26, 2002, 9:51am
(PDT+2) To: ljstandak@webtv.net Subject: Cryan
not rally sure where I fall in but. But I am
David cryan as far back in
my family tree I can go is to my great grand
parents. All that info can
be found in Florence and riverside new jersey. I
also know the solarski
family was married in so if you can find anything
out let me know I also
know that on my dad's side of the family he claim
Irish heritage take
care

Anyone able to give David any Information?

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Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2002 13:00:21 -0400
Subject: [Cryan et al.] Florence, NJ Cryans
To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

 

Lyle, I read David's note and then caught the
Florence, NJ reference in Caoimhghin's SSDI#3.
There may be others, I just haven't searched ...

>From the SSDI#3:
MICHAEL CRYAN 09 Nov 1895 Jul 1967 08518
(Florence,
Burlington, NJ) (none specified) 146-07-0734 New
Jersey SS-5 Letter
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Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2002 13:05:22 -0400
Subject: [Cryan et al.] Lyle, more of the same re: David
To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

 

Also from SSDI#3:
FLORENCE CRYAN 02 Aug 1900 Dec 1973 08075
(Riverside,
Burlington, NJ) (none specified) 157-01-4297 New
Jersey SS-5 Letter

I may have missed other references...

From: "SimonSmith" <hjs1@openfield.fsnet.co.uk> | This is Spam | Add to Address Book
To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com
CC: caoimhghin@yahoo.com
Subject: William Crane
Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 12:44:50 +0100

To whom it may concern,

I am an historian working on William Crane (1722-1808). Crane lived at Ardwick in Manchester and was a yarn merchant.

He had substantial Irish connections (his main correspondent being James Bird of Drogheda), including some Sligo connections.

I don't know for certain, but I think he probably originated from Ireland and the surname Crane is a modification of Cryan or Crean.

Details of Crane's will:

Last Will and Testament of William Crane of Ardwick in Manchester, gentleman. Dated 21 February 1807.

Leaves £1,000 in trust (Samuel Philips or Phillips of Manchester merchant and Edward Lloyd of Manchester banker). The interest to go towards the maintenance and education of four children of Nancy widow of Joseph Simperley deceased; the principal to go to the children in equal shares at the age of 21 or marriage. Leaves a further £400 in trust (Phillips and Lloyd). The interest to go to the wife of William Smith towards the maintenance and education of her two children on the same terms as the £1,000. Two children are nieces (possibly all of the children provided for are nephews and nieces). If all children die, then the money to be divided among Crane's other nephews and nieces and the children of Crane's late nephew George Sweetman deceased. Leaves house and land at Ardwick in trust (Samuel Jones and Richard Roberts) on the same terms as above: 1/4th share to the children of his nephew George Sweetman deceased, 1/4th share to his nephew William Sweetman, 1/4th share to his niece Hannah Hirst, 1/4th share to his niece Sarah Southern. Appoints as his Executors Samuel Jones and Richard Roberts.

Codicil (not dated). Replaces his executor Richard Roberts (Roberts has died) with Samuel Jones. Leaves 20 guineas to each of his executors.

William Crane died 1 January 1808. The will was proved 14 April 1808 by the executors Samuel Jones and Edward Lloyd. Jones and Lloyd swore that the personal effects of Crane were under the balance of £3,500.

I would be very interested to hear if the above details match up with any Cryan/Crean information you may have.

Yours faithfully,

Dr. Simon Smith

Lecturer in History

University of York

From: "SimonSmith" <hjs1@openfield.fsnet.co.uk> | This is Spam | Add to Address Book
Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 11:13:21 +0100
Subject: [Cryan et al.] William Crane
To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

 

William Crane (c.1722-1808) was a leading
Manchester yarn merchant. He lived at Ardwick Green,
about 2 miles from the centre of Manchester where he
also owned a warehouse.

Two volumes of Crane's business letters survive:
(I) 1781-87 and (II) 1794-1805. Crane effectively
'retired' from business c.1801 at the age of 89.

Very little is known about Crane's family
background: hence this posting. During the period
covered by the correspondence Crane was not married and
had no children, but this does not mean he did
not have a family earlier in life. His household
included a Miss Brooke and a Mr Helsby and a
brother (or brother in law) Richard, possibly Richard
Helsby. Perhaps Crane married into one of these
families?

Crane's will left his estate to his nieces and
nephews: George Sweetman, William Sweetman, Hannah
Hirst, and the children of relatives Nancy
Simperley and William Smith. These are the only direct
clues as to his relations.

I believe that William Crane was probably born in
Ireland, the son of a merchant or a gentleman,
and that Crane is a modification of Cryan, Crean,
Crehan or similar. Crane was extensively involved
in the yarn trade, particularly the Irish yarn
trade. His most significant Irish correspondent was
the merchant James Bird of Drogheda. The letters
make it clear that Crane new Drogheda and Dublin
well and had many friends there.

Crane also had a relative in Ormskirk named
Richard Coupland.

If you think that William Crane (1722-1808)
features in your database, I would very much like to
hear from you.

Simon Smith
Lecturer in History
University of York

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Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 11:29:26 +0100
Subject: [Cryan et al.] Date of birth William Crane
To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

 

I forgot to add that William Crane states hat he
was born on 21 December 1722.

- Simon Smith.

1236

 

1237

 

From: "Bob Cunning" <rcunning@ozemail.com.au> | This is Spam | Add to Address Book

Date:  Fri, 9 Aug 2002 00:29:37 +1000

Subject:        [Cryan et al.] CATHERINE CRYAN

To:      CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

 

 

Hello from Australia. I am searching for

Catherine CRYAN shown on some records as CRANE and even

CRYING!! She was from Mason County Kentucky U.S.A.

born circa 1832. Father Paul, mother Winifred,

nee LAWRENCE. Hoping to hear from other

researchers. Cheers  Bob cunning

 

Date:  Wed, 4 Sep 2002 09:12:19 -0700 (PDT)

From:  "edna fuller" <fuller_edna@yahoo.com> | This is Spam | Add to Address Book

Subject:        [Cryan et al.] My Cryan Family

To:      CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

 

 

James Cryan b: ?, m: Mary Phillips B: ?

Sroove, Monasteraden, Sligo County, Ireland

Both died in Ireland ?

 

Children:

 

James J.  b: 1835, m: Sarah McMahon, d: 1889 in

Lowell, Mass - 10 children

 

Timothy b: 1837, m: Bridget Leighton, d:

05/27/1915

Lowell, Mass - 1 child?

 

Mary b: 1846, d: 1921, Lowell, Mass

 

Michael b: 1849, m:Bridget Foley, d: 06/09/1899,

Lowell, Mass - 9 children?

 

John "Sony" b: 1851 (my great grandfather) m:

Honora

(Nora) Lavin, d; 1927, Sroove, Monasteraden,

Ireland -

8 children ?

 

Thomas b: 1855, m: ?, d: 1910, Lowell, Mass

 

Children of John "Sony" Cryan b: 1851 and Honoria

(Nora) Lavin b: 1844:

All children born in Sroove

 

Mary b: 1870 (spinster d:1942, San Francisco, Ca.

 

Agnes b: 1874, m: Michael Casey, d: ?, Ireland

 

Honora b: 8/26/1877 (my grandmother)m: Lawrence

Lydon,

D; 4/29/1961, Belmont, California, 4 children

 

John b: 1880, m: Mary ?, d: ?(maybe New York or

New

Jersey

 

Annie b: 1882,m: John Conway, D:10/19/1957,

Townaghbrack, Monasteraden, Ireland

 

James J. (Crane) b: 11/18/1884, m: single, never

married, d: 10/15/1968, San Francisco, California

 

Thomas b: ? (died in infancy)

 

Michael b: ? (died in infancy)

 

Edna Lydon Fuller

Fuller_edna@yahoo.com

 

Date:  Thu, 19 Sep 2002 19:03:02 -0500

From: "Charles Crain" <ccharlescrain@cox-internet.com> | This is Spam | Add to Address Book

Subject:        [Cryan et al.] william and Jean Crain

To:      CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

 

 

I am searching for the Irish ancestors of my

great-grandfather, William

Crain (b. 17704, Down Co. , Ulster, Ireland) and

his wife Jean ? .They

immigrated from County Down , Ulster, Ireland in

1732 to Pennslyvania in

America. I am told , that many Irish Crains,

spelled our name Cryan ,and it

was spelled, O'Croidheain, before it was modified

to be more English, in

it's spelling. Any asistance, you may give me in

my quest for my Irish

ancestors, will be greatly appreciated, and very

well received. May God

Bless, Charles Crain.

 

 

Frank Newton <franktor@newton0510.freeserve.co.uk>

Re: Oor Dougie as a

Cameronian , a clan who are not renowned for

Their mercy, behaved badly toward that Irish Mercenary

Simon O Croidheain (Anglicised Crean) who fought with

The remnants of Viscount Dundee's' army ,at the

Battle of Dunkeld in 1689 , by impaling him on a halbert

(Halberd)?

 

I have recently spent some time in Birnam and Dunkeld and tried to find out some more about the above.
The story I got from the information centres and records office is that John Graham of Claverhouse, otherwise known as Viscount Dundee, raised an army of highlanders including a large party of Cameronians, and on 27th. July 1689 defeated King William's troops at Killiecrankie.
Dundee died in the battle having been shot.
Part of the victorious army retired to Dunkeld.
In mid August King William raised a new army of some5000 highlanders who marched on Dunkeld where they laid siege to about 1200 Cameronians.
The king's troops made there way into the streets and the Cameronians took refuge in the cathedral and nearby mansion house.
The king's troops took refuge in the town houses. After the Cameronians ammunition ran out they rushed the king's troops, setting fire to the houses and burning the occupants alive.Those who escaped were chased into the hills.
There is no mention of Simon either at Dunkeld or at the records office in Perth. It looks as though he fought for the king against Dundee, which is strange as the king had only recently defeated the Irish in Ireland.
I remarked on the method of his death and one of the assistants at the record office commented "Why should he get better treatment than the others?".
It was well known for troops to change sides if a better offer was made or if the side they were on was losing.
Hope this helps you
Regards
Frank T. Newton

 

 

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Comments:    I found a cached email on google that had a marriage announcement of John Cryan to Eleanor Devine. Her father was Fitzmaurice Devine and his father was Thomas Devine. Thomas is my great great grandfather. I am descended from Thomas's son, Peter. Thank you for posting your information as I was able to fill in some gaps in my genealogy. I found the original information about John and Eleanor in Devine Genealogy written by Fr. Thomas Fitzstephen Devine. My copy was a photocopy that a relative in Highwood, Co. Sligo had obtained at one point. Your website is great. Keep up the good work.

 

Date:  Thu, 24 Oct 2002 05:31:08 -0700 (PDT)

From: "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> | This is Spam | Add to Address Book

Subject:        [Cryan et al.] Roscommon Herald Articles No. 110

To:      CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

 

 

To:       CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

 

 

Roscommon Herald Articles No. 110

Thanks to Margaret Cryan for the typing

 

21 October 1905

 

The suspended Porter

 

Costello, the suspended Porter, made an

application to

the Board to have a cheque made out for the

finance

day, but not to be given him until the decision

"re"

the inquiry has been received from the Local

Government Board.

Mr Jinks said it would not be any harm to

instruct

their clerk to make out a cheque for him, and if

the

report came down favourable, he would get his

money,

otherwise the cheque would be cancelled. They

should

all admit he was not a man of a big banking

account.

Mr Cryan said according to wat he had read, no

charge

could be proven against him.

Mr Jinks -- If he were discharged tomorrow the

cheque

would cost you nothing.

Mr Hargadon -- You ought to consider a man like

him,

who has a good many children, and they should

also

consider his long and faithful service.

Mr Cryan -- The Local Government Board should not

delay their decision on the subject.

Mr Hargadon -- Better not press the Local

Government

Board.

Mr Cryan -- What are they any more than us? They

are

always scrutinising us, and we have no leave to

scrutinise their actions.

 

The Milk

Mr Cryan proposed -- "That the Board were of

opinion

that the fine imposed on Contractor Kelly, for

deficiency in degrees of cream, was not a just

one,

for two reasons. Firstly, the sample was taken in

the

hot weather, and secondly, the lactometer had

been

proven by experts to be useless. Therefore they

requested that the fine be remitted."

Mr Ward agreed. The master did not recognise the

test

for two months of the year.

A Guardian said the fines should be kept over the

contractors head, in order to insure good milk

for the

poor people.

Mr Ward said a man was entitled to the benefit of

the

doubt. From what he had heard, the standard was

not a

correct one.

Mr Moran said if the standard was incorrect in

the hot

weather, it was also incorrect in the cold

weather.

The following order was made: -- "The Board are

of

opinion that the lactometer is not a reliable

test in

the hot weather, find we, therefore, ask the

Local

Government Board to remit the fine imposed on all

milk

contractors."

Date:  Thu, 24 Oct 2002 05:35:43 -0700 (PDT)

From: "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> | This is Spam | Add to Address Book

Subject:        [Cryan et al.] burkes-peerage.net

To:      CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

 

 

Hi all

I found 5 references to crean at this site. Here

follows one that I was able to access.

I have been very busy with other things but I

will

have loads of articles my mother has been

steadily

typing away for me on the list soon....

Could Pat and Margaret contact me as I dont have

their

email addresses?

 

thanks

caoimhghin

 

http://www.burkes-peerage.net/

The Genealogy Register    

QUIN OF BALLINACOURTY

 

SIR STEPHEN BYRNE QUIN, Knt. (1918), of

Ballinacourty,

Castleconnell, Co Limerick, and Swinley Wood,

Ascot,Berks, JP, and DL Co Limerick, High Sheriff 1898,

Mayor of Limerick 1917-18, Member of the Irish

Convention 1917-18; b 26 Dec 1860; educ Ushaw

Coll,Durham; m 5 July, 1886, •Emma Mary, dau of

MichaelTheobald Crean, Barrister-at-Law, and Irish Land

Commisioner, and has had issue,

Lineage-JAMES QUIN, of Glenquin Castle, Co

Limerick (sof John Quin; b. ca. 1692; d. ca. 1729); b 1720;

m1760, Catherine Mary, dau of Edward Barry, Co

Cork,and d 1800, leaving ...

Record Type(s): Landed Gentry

 

Date:  Thu, 24 Oct 2002 05:40:58 -0700 (PDT)

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Subject:        [Cryan et al.] Devine

To:      CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

HiFound on my website guest book. Can any one help

oradd to this ?caoimhghin

maire1999@aol.com

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Referred By:  Search Engine

Location:        Boston, MA, USA

Comments:    I found a cached email on google that

had a marriage announcement of John Cryan to Eleanor

Devine.Her father was Fitzmaurice Devine and his father

wasThomas Devine. Thomas is my great great

grandfather. Iam descended from Thomas's son, Peter. Thank you

forposting your information as I was able to fill in

somegaps in my genealogy. I found the original information

about John and Eleanor in Devine Genealogy

written by

Fr. Thomas Fitzstephen Devine. My copy was a

photocopy

that a relative in Highwood, Co. Sligo had

obtained at

one point. Your website is great. Keep up the

good work

 

emcry 22

 

 

 

 Date:

 Thu, 5 Dec 2002 05:30:52 -0800 (PST)

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 Subject:

 [Cryan et al.] Roscommon Herald Articles No. 111

 To:

 CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com Roscommon Herald Articles No. 111

 Thanks to Pat Hunt for the typing

 

 2 July 1904

 Coal Contract

 The following tenders were received for the

 supply of best Scotch coal

 for the Institution:­ R and J.W. Hunter, Sligo

 at 14s 3d per ton; Harper

 Campbell Ltd., at 13s 3d per ton and P.J.

 Flanagan, Sligo at 14s.

 The tender of Harper Campbell was accepted.

 Mr Jinks‹ Are we going to get away, or ask no

 tenders for Irish coal?

 Chairman‹ You must accept this contract in

 accordance with your

 advertisement. I think the coal you refer to was

 not giving satisfaction.

 Mayor‹ In the Asylum they mix it with English

 coal.

 Mr Cryan said there were men going about the

 different countries,

 telling the firemen of the different institutions

 to say Irish coal was no good (laughter).

 Mr Brennan‹ There is a good deal in that.

 Chairman‹ There is one thing about the Irish

 coal, and that is its

 carriage. However, when we get a cart of coal

 delivered here at 13s 3d, it

 is very cheap.

 

 

 

 Date:

 Thu, 5 Dec 2002 05:34:23 -0800 (PST)

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 Subject:

 [Cryan et al.] Roscommon Herald Articles No. 112

 To:

 CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com Roscommon Herald Articles No. 112

 Thanks to Pat Hunt for the typing

 

 

 

 

 

 Roscommon Herald

 12 August 1905

 

 Sudden Death

 On Tuesday the death of a respectable old man

 named Michael Cryan, aged

 62 years, of Dockloonagh, took place rather

 suddenly. He was conveying milk

 to a local creamery when he suddenly took ill,

 and died a short time after

 the attack. In his last moments he was consoled

 by the rites of the Catholic

 Church. It is stated that he had previously been

 treated for cardiac

 disease, and it is believed that this affliction

 was the cause of his death.

 Being a respectable, inoffensive old man, much

 sympathy is expressed at his

 death.

 

 

 

 Date:

 Thu, 5 Dec 2002 05:47:28 -0800 (PST)

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 Subject:

 [Cryan et al.] Roscommon Herald Articles No. 113

 To:

 CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com Roscommon Herald Articles No. 113

 Thanks to Pat Hunt for the typing

 

 

 14 October 1905

 Boyle Election Petitions

 The Michael Moraghan Fiasco

 […] Mr James Oates

 

 Mr James Oates, one of

 the

 petitioners, was

 next examined by Mr

 Moriarty.

 Mr Moriarty (to Mr

 Oates) ‹

 You are a voter

 entitled to vote at the

 election in […]

 Do you know Batty

 McManus? ‹

 I do.

 Do you know Pat Conlon?

 ‹ I

 do.

 Did you go with

 McManus,

 Conlon and […] into

 Cryan's shop on 6th June? ‹

 Yes. When I went into Mr

 Cryan's, Mr Cryan was at

 the grocer's side of the

 shop.

 What directions did you

 get?

 ‹ I was told to

 vote for Mr Devine.

 What directions did he

 give

 to Keville? ‹ To

 give a drink.

 What drink did Keville

 supply you with? ‹

 Five pints of porter and a

 half of whiskey for the six

 of

 us. I cannot tell

 who the others were,

 exclusive of McManus and

 Conlon.

 Tell his Lordship what

 Cryan

 said about

 voting for Devine? ‹ He

 told us

 to vote solid for Devine

 before

 we got the drink.

 Did any of you say

 anything

 to Devine as to

 what you would do? ‹ No.

 Did you drink up all

 the

 drinks? ‹ We did

 (laughter).

 Is Cryan a connection

 or

 relation of

 Devine's? ‹ Mr Cryan is

 married

 to

 a first cousin of Mr

 Devine's

 from Ballyfarnon.

 Had you seen Cryan

 canvassing with Devine? ‹

 I had.

 Where had you seen him?

 ‹ At

 the Town Clock.

 Was Devine present? ‹

 He

 was.

 Had you seen Cryan

 canvassing with Devine? ‹

 I had.

 When ? ‹ On the day of

 the

 poll.

 Were you assaulted at

 this

 election? ‹ I was,

 by a man named Dowd.

 Was it Joe Dowd? ‹ No;

 Tom

 Dowd, of the Spa.

 He told me he would smash

 my face.

 Did he say why? ‹

 Because I

 voted for Tully?

 Commissioner ‹ Was it

 after

 the election? ‹

 Yes.

 There was something

 about

 "scollops"? ‹ Yes.

 What about the

 "scollops"? ‹

 I was short some

 "scollops" and I went to

 Mullaney's land for a few,

 as I

 was thatching.

 That has nothing to do

 with

 this case.

 Do you know John Leo? ‹

 Yes

 Where does he live? ‹

 The

 Deerpark.

 What part was he taking

 in

 the election? ‹ A

 very heavy part.

 On whose behalf? ‹

 Devine's.

 What was he doing?

 ‹Going

 about canvassing.

 Did Devine see him? ‹

 He

 did.

 Was he bringing voters?

 ‹ He

 was.

 To Devine's house? ‹

 Yes.

 How do you know they

 were

 voters? ‹ I know

 everyone around the

 country.

 In your evidence you

 said

 you saw Leo

 bringing voters into

 Devine's

 public house? ‹ Yes, about

 12

 o'clock.

 Did you see people

 brought

 into any other

 house? ‹ I could not say

 whether they went into

 Drury's

 or not.

 After leaving Cryan's

 shop

 where did you see

 him again? ‹ I saw him on

 the Crescent, opposite the

 polling booth.

 What was he doing

 there? ‹

 He was with

 Devine, Cunningham, Egan

 and

 Dowd.

 Was this after he had

 treated you, McManus,

 Conlon and others to a

 drink? ‹ Yes.

 Cross-examined by Mr

 M'Dermott ‹ You are one

 of the petitioners in this

 case? ‹ Yes.

 You are an admirer of

 Mr

 Tully? ‹ I am not an

 admirer or his.

 Has Mr Tully and you

 always

 been great

 friends? ‹ We have.

 And in these various

 elections which have

 taken place, you have

 always

 been his supporter? ‹ Yes,

 but

 not on that day.

 But on any day were you

 a

 supporter? ‹ I was.

 That would be well

 known in

 Boyle? ‹ It

 would.

 You are marked out in

 Boyle

 as being one of

 Mr Tully's crowd? ‹ No.

 Are you known as his

 supporter? ‹ I was.

 You are marked out in

 Boyle

 as being one of

 Mr Tully's crowd? ‹ No.

 Are you known as his

 supporter? ‹ Yes; I am

 none [sic] of his crowd.

 Has he a crowd? ‹ He

 has no

 crowd.

 You got into some

 trouble

 some time ago, and

 you were actually summoned

 for theft? ‹ No.

 Do you mean that? ‹ I

 only

 made a mistake.

 Were you not summoned

 for

 making a mistake?

 ‹ I was.

 Was not it for stealing

 sally rods? ‹ I would

 not make it out as

 stealing. The magistrate

 took a

 wrong view of it.

 Mr Moriarty ‹ You were

 fined

 2d?

 Mr M'Dermott ‹ I never

 knew

 of such a fine in

 the Courts.

 How much were you

 fined? ‹

 Two shillings.

 That was 2s costs and

 5s

 fine? ‹ I forgot the

 5s.

 You say you were well

 known

 as one of Mr

 Tully's supporters, and on

 the

 date of the election, 6th

 June,

 how did you spend

 your day? ‹ I spent it in

 town.

 You are a "brogue"

 maker? ‹

 I am no such

 thing; "brogue" makers have

 died out.

 You are a survivor of

 the

 fittest. What are

 you by profession? ‹ A

 shoemaker.

 Did you make any shoes

 on

 6th June? ‹ No.

 What were you doing? ‹

 Rambling around the

 town.

 Looking after Mr

 Tully's

 interest? ‹ No.

 Were you not a

 supporter of

 his? ‹ I was a

 supporter of Mr Drury's.

 You were not supporting

 Mr

 Tully in this

 election? ‹ I would not

 like to

 see anything wrong.

 Were you a supporter of

 Tully? ‹ I was in a

 way.

 And didn't people know

 you

 were a supporter

 in a way? ‹ Well, they

 might.

 What brought you into

 Mr

 Cryan's? ‹ The boy

 said there was a drink in

 it, and I went in with

 Batty Mac

 and Pat Conlon.

 And Mr Cryan was

 delighted

 to see one of Mr

 Tully's supporters? ‹ He

 did

 not know whether I was a

 supporter or not. I was

 not supporting Mr Tully on

 that day; it was Mr

 McDrury.

 Then you were in the

 enemy's

 camp? ‹ Yes.

 And the people of Boyle

 knew

 it? ‹ Yes.

 And Mr Cryan who was in

 the

 other camp, was

 he pleased to see you

 coming

 with voters into his house?

 ‹ He

 must be pleased

 when he gave me the drink.

 You tell his Lordship

 that

 Mr Cryan knew you

 were in the opposite camp,

 and proceeded to give you

 drink,

 his boy in the

 first instance having

 refused it? ‹ Yes.

 When did you first tell

 Mr

 Tully about the

 drink you have got? ‹ I

 could

 not tell you the day.

 You are like the other

 petitioners who came

 up. After the election did

 you go straight away to

 Tully

 and say, "I want to

 tell you about the drink I

 had in Cryan's"? ‹ I did

 not

 speak to him at all.

 After the election was

 over

 did you go and

 tell Mr Tully about the

 drink? ‹ I told Mr Priest.

 When did you tell Mr

 Priest?

 ‹ Three weeks

 after the election.

 After three weeks what

 put

 it in you head to

 go to Mr Priest? ‹ I

 thought it was fair and

 just

 that I should do it.

 Do you tell his

 Lordship

 that during these

 twenty-one long nights, and

 twenty-one long days it

 never

 struck you to

 interview this charming

 gentleman, Mr Priest? ‹ I

 thought it a proper

 thing to do.

 Why didn't you do it

 during

 the twenty-one

 days? ‹ It occurred to my

 mind all that time.

 Did it occur to your

 mind

 the day after the

 election? ‹ It did.

 Did you see Priest

 then? ‹

 No.

 Why did you go

 twenty-one

 days after? ‹ I

 thought it was fair and

 right.

 On that particular day,

 three weeks after the

 election, what made you

 say, "I will go to see

 Priest"?

 Are you troubled

 with a conscience? ‹ No.

 You have no conscience?

 ‹ I

 have.

 Did your conscience at

 the

 end of three weeks

 begin to prick you? Your

 conscience accused you of

 having

 taken the drink,

 and you thought the proper

 priest to go to was Mr

 Priest?

 Was it because he

 is called Priest that you

 went to him? ‹ No. I

 thought he

 was the proper

 man to tell it to.

 Why did you think that

 Mr

 Priest was the

 proper man to confess your

 sins

 to? ‹ I thought it was

 right and

 fair to tell it.

 Did you meet him during

 the

 three weeks? ‹ I

 saw him in his own home.

 During all this, did it

 ever

 occur to you to

 make this confession? ‹ It

 did.

 Why did you keep it

 back?

 You were with him,

 met him, and still you

 refrained. Why didn't you

 tell

 him? ‹ Things did

 not crop up at the time.

 During the three weeks

 it

 was on your

 conscience? ‹ It was.

 […] For three weeks? ‹

 My

 conscience was all

 the same.

 Always pricking. What

 cropped up that made

 you tell him? ‹ News.

 What was the news that

 made

 your conscience

 develop, and that you

 cleared yourself of this

 sin? ‹

 I heard it was an

 unjust thing that people

 should

 get bribery.

 Who told you that? ‹ I

 cannot tell you.

 Who roused your

 conscience?

 ‹ My conscience

 told me.

 Didn't your conscience

 tell

 you immediately

 after you had the drink, or

 when you had a headache

 next

 morning? ‹ I am

 telling the truth.

 Did Mr Priest tell you

 to go

 to Tully? ‹ Yes.

 

 Mr Wm. Odbert, ex-clerk

 Boyle Union, was next

 examined. […]

 

 

 

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 24th February, 1883.

 

 BOYLE BOROUGH COURT.

 

 The presiding magistrate at this court on

 Wednesday

 last were Francis Armstrong, Esq, J.P. , in the

 chair,

 and Col. H.Taafe Ferrall.

 

 INTIMIDATING A CROWN WITNESS.

 

 Mrs. Cryan, of Ballinultba, summoned Mrs.

 Kennedy, of

 same place, for using abusive and threatening

 language

 towards her. The complaint was one of the

 principal

 witnesses against the defendant's son, who was

 convicted of the manslaughter of Hunt at the

 last

 Sligo Assises.

 Head-constable Muleady - This case was brought

 before

 the Court the last day, and Mr. Mayne adjourned

 it for

 the purpose of seeing how Mrs. Kennedy would

 conduct

 herself in the meantime. Mrs. Cryan and her

 brother-in-law were witnesses in the Hunt's case

 and

 young Kennedy is in prison, and they have got

 some

 annoyance.

 Mr. Armstrong - Has there been any complaint

 since the

 case was adjourned ?

 Mrs. Cryan - No! except on Sunday she put the

 "Cross

 of Christ" on her face when she saw me.

 Mr. Armstrong - That did not hurt you. Did she

 molest

 you in any way?

 Mrs. Cryan - No, sir.

 Mr. Armstrong - I did not hear this case before,

 but

 was this woman assaulted ?

 Head-constable Mulesdy - No, sir! she was not,

 but

 owing to the peculiar nature of the case Mr.Mayne

 let

 it stand for a forthnight to prevent a repetition

 of

 her conduct.

 Mr. Armstrong (to Mrs. Kennedy) - - You are

 cautioned

 now not to repeat this abusive language, and if

 you do

 this again this case will be on the books.

 Head-constable Muleady - If she does, she will be

 brought up under the Crimes Act.

 A young woman named Catherine Dyer was sued

 2s.6d. for

 being drunk on the 25th ult.

 

 

 

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 page

 and lost a lot of the right hand edge. I will try

 and

 get it again from the microfilm but in the

 meantime

 here is what can be read.

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 Roscommon Herald Articles No. 115

 Thanks to Veronica Cryan for the typing

 

 

 

 No. 27.

 

 7th October,1905.

 

 THE LATE MR. THOMAS CRYAN,

 TEACHER,

 TOWNAGHBRACK,

 N.S. BALLAGHADERREEN.

 

 

 

 "Let Knowledge grow from more to more ,

 But more of reverence in us dwell;

 That mind and soul, according well,

 May make one music as before,

 But vaster."

 

 So sings the late poet Laureate, in his immortal

 "In

 Memoriam," and such was the lofty and noble

 ideal of

 the above mentioned. Born on the shores of Laugh

 Gara,

 about five miles from Ballaghaderreen, of parents

 poor

 but upright and self-respecting , characters so

 distinctive of our better Irish peasantry, young

 Cryan

 at an early age developed characteristics quite

 above

 the average young lads of Coolavin. The death of

 his

 father brought a crash of ruin on the hard

 working

 mother.

 The good "Soggarth Aroon" of the parish now the

 Most

 Rev. Cannon O'Hara, P.P. Kilmovee, quickly saw

 that

 the son of the widow was possessed of no mean

 talents,

 and to comfort and tide the weak family over

 their

 difficulties appointed "Tom" assistant in Cross

 N.S.

 Shortly afterwards he was appointed to Coolavin

 N.S.

 and finally got the principalship in Townaghbrack

 N.S.

 His subsequent brilliant career as a teacher

 amply

 justified the good priest's opinion of the poor

 widows

 son. In quick time he attained the highest rank

 as

 teacher under the National Board; won the

 Carlisle and

 Blake Premium and turned out in quick succession

 a

 number of pupils, who greatly distinguished

 themselves

 and their teacher in various pursuits.

 His restless energy did not end, he established a

 science and art classes, the number and quality

 of his

 success was phenomenal. The class quickly became

 first

 in Connaught, notwithstanding various drawbacks

 he had

 to contend with was a poor and congested

 locality. His

 one attaining the requisite ages, were the best

 Catholic Colleges, and distinguished themselves

 at the

 int... examinations, carrying off Exhibit prizes

 galore, and proving that we are only beginning to

 see

 the inseparation between Primary and Secondary.

 Such

 in brief is an outline of his world. Shall we say

 of

 his character as a man friend and companion?

 Words are

 meaningless, and when not arest that happy knack

 which

 character ....quence, are wanting in something

 when

 applied to the death of such. If every word were

 a

 rose, kissed by the sun by the sun in June,

 breathing

 an im...... fragance, aand that I could a

 ran.....and

 select the choicest, and place on the grave, they

 might suitably express feelings for :-

 

 "A life that all the muses decked

 With gifts of grace that might

 All-comprehensive tenderness,

 All-subtilising intellect."

 

 Mr. Cryan was a man deeply and .....loved by

 those who

 knew him......As a teacher , as a business man, a

 husband, as a father, there was no-one better

 than he.

 He did his duty following his consience; he had

 no

 wish save to .......Let inspectors come and go,

 praise

 his work, he followed his own ....unfaltering

 courage.

 He was ge....patient with the little ones

 committed to

 his care. He loved nature, and ...ado....great

 Creator's works, not through .....because he

 loved. If

 there were a life to come, he would still love

 right... and if there were no hell he would hate

 sin

 and hypocrisy. He had .... that responded to

 every

 call for help. His friendship was truthful,

 sincere

 and never doubting. There was nothing suspicious

 in

 his nature. He hated no man, spread no ill-tale;

 he

 had the sacredness of an honourable rep.....would

 rather be wronged than be t.....of a wrong. He

 was

 fifty-four years of age. He is survived by his

 wife

 and the children----Amy, Tommy, Berty. We send

 them

 our deepest sympathy.

 

 "I care not in these fading days,

 To raise a cry that last not long?......

 And round thee with the breeze,

 To stir a little dust of praise."

 

 

 

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 14th November, 1903.

 

 DEFERRED PAYMENTS.

 

 The pay sheet was then read over and in a sum of

 £112

 odd deferred from Owen Pettit for a road in the

 Knockruah District the co […] protested against

 the

 action of the County Surveyor, and said there was

 no

 better road within forty miles of Boyle. He had

 lost

 over £70 on it, and to show it was in good

 repair, he

 would get the best car in Boyle for Mr. Mulvany

 if he

 came out now and inspected it.

 Mr. Mulvany said this contractor was to have out

 280

 tons of stones on the road, but up to the 4th

 November

 he had only out 63 tones. He could not ask the

 Council

 to recommend payment for any man who had not half

 the

 quantity delivered.

 The matter was passed over.

 Mr. Cryan, contractor for the repair of several

 of the

 lanes in Boyle, also complained of a sum being

 stopped

 from him. It was impossible to keep the place in

 repair, when the inhabitants of these places have

 no

 back promises, and were continually carting out

 manure, ashes etc.,

 Mr. Mulvany advised Mr. Cryan to proceed against

 some

 of the parties for the present defective

 condition of

 the place, and the proceedings terminated.

 

 

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 25th June 1904.

 

 THREATENING LANGUAGE.

 

 Thomas Cryan, Clogher, steward on Coolavin

 estate,

 summond Thomas Cryan (John) of same name, for

 threatening language and to recover the amount of

 13s.6d. lent cash and sought to have defendant

 bound

 to the peace .There was a cross case for

 threatening

 to shoot, and for the wages due to defendant .

 Mr. MacDermot appeared for the complainant.

 Complainant, in reply to Mr. MacDermot complained

 to

 the steward on the Coolavin Estate.

 He came in contact with the man in the course of

 his

 duties, gives him work and let him […]. There was

 a

 dispute some time ago about measurement and ill

 feeling exists since. On 6th.May complainant was

 on

 his usual rounds, when he met the defendant. They

 had

 some hot words, and defendant drew a bottle of

 whiskey

 from his pocket and swore by --- [sic] he'd dash

 out

 his brains on the road.

 Mr. Kilbride ------That frightened you entirely

 (laughter)? -----yes. Defendant took a handful

 of

 silver from his pocket and dared me to take my

 half

 crown. He came to my house on five occasions when

 he

 was drunk. He is a persecution to my wife and

 children.

 Defendant-----Didn't I demand wages from you that

 evening? --- No.

 Mr. Kilbride (to complainant) do you owe him

 anything?

 ----No.

 Mrs. Honoria Cryan , wife of complainant

 corroborated.

 The cross-case was then taken up.

 Cryan (the defendant) deposed that this man

 threatened

 to shoot him, and defendant said, "Oh, begorra,

 maybe

 you wouldn't (laughter). I asked him to give me

 the

 money due to me.

 Mr. Kilbride --- is it not true that he paid you

 the

 sum of 13s. 6d. for 3 days ? ----No.

 Complainant produced a book showing that the

 amount

 was paid.

 Defendant-----That I may die before I go home if

 you

 did (laughter)

 Mr. Kilbride ---- Did you borrow 2s.6d. from

 this

 man? ---No.

 Complainant-----Why did you take out a handful of

 silver and dare me to take my half-crown? ----I

 did

 not.

 Complainant -----I declare you did.

 Defendant ---I declare you didn't (loud

 laughter).

 Mr. McDermott --- Were you ever summoned for

 beating

 your father? ----I might be (laughter).

 Will you deny beating him? --- I wont deny it

 (laughter) but I'm not going to tell on myself

 (loud

 laughter).

 Mr. Kilbride said he believed the sum of 13s. 6d.

 was

 paid to the defendant, as Mr. Cryan's book seems

 to be

 well kept, and the case of Thos. Cryan (John)

 against

 Thos Cryan for the wages would be dismissed also

 the

 case of threatening to shoot. He would be bound

 to

 keep the peace for twelve months himself in £10

 and

 two sureties of £5 each. The Bench also gave a

 decree

 for 2s 6d. and 3s costs.

 

 

 

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 8th October 1904.

 

 THE SALARIES:

 

 The clerk read the following:-

 

 Local Government Board.

 "Dublin, 30th September,1904.

 

 "Sir---I am directed by the local Government for

 Ireland to state that they have had before them

 minutes of proceedings of the Board of Guardians

 of

 Boyle Union on the 10th inst. when the Guardians

 had

 under consideration the report of the committee

 appointed to deal with the circular letter of the

 local government Board of the 8th ult. relative

 to

 increases in the salaries of Union officers and

 in

 reference and thereto I am to state the Board

 considered it advisable to leave to each Board of

 Guardians the matter of fixing a scale of

 salaries for

 their own officers and that the scale was

 suggested as

 a means of insuring that increases of salaries

 should

 be granted in a regular way, and without being

 influenced by personal considerations, except of

 course the question as to whether the others

 discharged their duties satisfactorily. It was

 not

 contemplated that a scale should be formulated

 binding

 on a number of Unions schemes which would

 present

 considerable difficulties. The Board would,

 however be

 very pleased to supply any information in their

 power

 which the Guardians consider would be serviceable

 in

 framing the proposed scale for the requirements

 of the

 Boyle Union, the guardians might, therefore,

 taking

 into consideration the salaries paid to the

 several

 officers in the Union proceed to frame a scale

 which

 would fulfill the requirements mentioned above.

 The

 Board would prefere to wait the completion of

 such a

 scale before sanctioning any increases of

 salaries to

 Union Officers but they would be prepared then to

 allow the increase which the Guadians now

 propose to

 grant to certain officers to antedate

 from the time they were voted by the guardians.

 I am sir, your obededient servant.

 A.R. BARLAS, Asistant sec.,

 

 The Clerk, Boyle Union.

 

 Clerk-----Well gentlemen, what will you do with

 this

 letter?

 Mr.Travers-----We are a very small board to go

 into

 that matter today, and I suggest it be adjourned

 for

 a month or summon a board in the meantime. That

 would

 be the best way to do business.

 Chairman-----You are perfectly right, this is a

 very

 small board to deal with a matter of that kind.

 The

 increases are neither granted nor rejected yet.

 Mr. Travers--- is it left in the hands of the

 guardians.

 Mr. Cryan-----I do not see why you should adjourn

 it.

 It is only ordinary business. and we meet to

 transact

 it every Saturday.

 Mr. Travers said it was too grave a matter to

 deal

 with that today.

 Chairman-----What do you say Mr. Odbert?

 Clerk----It is for the board, and not for me.

 Mr. Travers----Adjourn it.

 Chairman---- It is a question for a full board to

 consider.

 Mr. Keenan-----There should be a summoned board

 to

 consider it.

 Mr. Cryan----What do you want with a summoned

 board?

 Mr. Travers----To consider that matter. What we

 have

 done is not sanctioned by the local Government

 Board.

 It is still in the hands of the Board.

 Mr. Cryan said he was in favour of dealing with

 every

 question as it came before the meeting.

 Clerk----- you will have to summon a Board to do

 the

 salaries.

 Mr. Cryan----Probably. I will be in Sligo next on

 next

 Saturday at the meeting of the Proposal

 Committee.

 Chairman-----How long will I adjourn it for ?

 Mr. Cryan ----The country people say we are

 always

 doing things by halves.

 Mr. Travers----When every guardian gets notice on

 this

 subject, they will attend .

 Chairman----If you deal with it now, other

 guardians

 will say "What right had your small Board to go

 into

 such an important matter as that?

 Mr. Travers----There will a meeting of the Rural

 District Council on next Saturday and it would be

 a

 sauitable day.

 Chairman---Send out notices for this day week.

 Mr. Mullany----Give a fortnight's notice. It

 would not

 be sufficient to give only weeks notice.

 According to

 the Local Government Act, you must give fourteen

 days

 notice.

 Clerk---- It is not my doing.

 Mr. Mullany----It will still be an illegal

 procedure

 if you do not give the legal time and notice.

 Clerk-----Any letter from the local Government

 Board

 can be considered on the day it comes in.

 Mr. Mullany---This is a very important matter,

 and it

 is better to give plenty of time to it.

 Chairman-----How long do you suggest Mr. Mullany?

 Mr. Mullany----Say a month.

 Mr. Travers----Hit on the proper time.

 Mr. Mullany----Give every man time to make up his

 mind

 what he will do.We will leave it deal with the

 circular relative to the increasing of Union

 Officers

 salaries.

 Mr. Travers----- They will either be increased or

 decreased when the scale is fixed.

 Chairman------This day week will be meeting day

 for

 No:1 Council.

 Mr. Mullany----That wont do, there is always too

 much

 business to be done at District Council Meetings.

 It

 is very important and it is better give it time.

 If

 you give a month's notice you will have no cranks

 like

 myself complaining (laughter).

 Master---- As far as I am concerned I do not want

 to

 go any further with it.

 Boyle Union have the lowest average cost in

 Ireland,

 being only 6s.... per head.

 He had nothing to say to the Guardians, but the

 Local

 Government Board treated him badly.

 Mr. Mullany----The mistake was to put in many

 officers

 together.

 Every member of the Board knows they are most

 deserving officers, but each officer should be

 taken

 separately.

 Mr.Travers----- It should be considered in

 another

 way.

 Mr. Mullany------A Journey for a month, the Board

 to

 be summoned to consider it and that would settle

 it.

 Mr. Cryan----They are very deserving officers,

 but a

 general increase did not look well.

 Chairman----It is the local Government Board

 Office

 they must blame.

 It was unanimously agreed to summon a Board to

 consider the circular of that day month.

 Mr. Pete Lenaghan stated that in consequence of

 the

 letter from the local Government Board he would

 withdraw his notice of motion relative to the

 increasing of the officers salary.

 

 

 

 

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 18th February,1882.

 

 BOYLE BOARD OF GUARDIANS.

 

 THE SEED RATE.

 […]

 Clerk - This letter is in the handwriting of a

 lady,

 and I have a letter from John Mulloy stating

 he is

 not security at all and, and threatening

 proceedings

 against me. I dont say it is the Ballyfermoyle

 man,

 but a John Mulloy is security, whoever he is.

 The Clerk then read a copy of the reply which the

 Local Government Board sent to Messrs Mulloy and

 Walsh, stating that it is the duty of the rate

 collectors to use every means in their power to

 collect the Seed Rate as made and assessssed by

 the

 Board of Guardians, and that the Local Government

 Board cannot interfere.

 Clerk - I suppose the board will mark their

 letter

 "read".

 Mr. Mulhall - It is a very serious charge they

 make.

 Clerk - There is no foundation for it. I am happy

 to

 say that we have not an individual who has

 denied, to

 my own knowledge getting the seed rate assessed

 with.

 Mr. Mulhall - The gentlemen who wrote that letter

 made

 a very serious charge.

 Chairman - I dont take it to myself for one .

 The Clerk read the letter he received from Mr.

 John

 Mulloy, of Ballyfermoyle, denying that he was the

 surety. The signatures to the two letters were

 not the

 same. He was looking over the bond, and he found

 the

 resideuce was given as Cornacartha.

 Mr. Burns - I am guardian for that division, and

 there

 is no such man living in that townland.

 After a pause, the Clerk said Cryanstown was the

 place

 this John Mulloy lived in.

 Mr. Patterson said there was such a man as John

 Mulloy

 of Cryanstown.

 The letters were marked "read".

 

 

 

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 Roscommon Herald Articles No. 120

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 4th November,1882.

 

 

 THE HOMICIDE OF THOMAS HUNT.

 

 On last Wednesday an investigation was held in

 the

 Boyle Courthouse, at the termination of the Petty

 Sessions business, into the homicide of the small

 farmer, Thomas Hunt, at Mockmoyne on the 2nd of

 October last. Mr. Hackett, who was chairman at

 the

 Petty Sessions, occupied the chair in the

 magistrate's

 room, and the representative of the journal

 having

 applied that the Press should be addmitted, Mr.

 Hackett said he saw no objection to the

 proceedings

 being published. Major Robertson and Mr.Mayne,

 R.M.,

 who were the other magistrates present, then

 left

 the room and consulted together for some time in

 an

 adjoining apartment. After a short interval the

 Head

 Constable asked Mr. Hackett, the Petty Sessions

 Clerk,

 and solicitors engaged in the cases, to walk into

 the

 second room. Major Robertson moved Mr. Mayne to

 the

 chair, and an application being made to havee the

 Press admitted Major Robertson refused it.

 Mr.Hackett

 then left the place and declined to identify

 himself

 any further with the proceedings. Mr. Randal

 Peyton,

 Crown Prosecutor , conducted the case for the

 authorities, and Mr. Farrell McDonnell,

 solicitor,

 Roscommon, and another legal gentleman, defended

 the

 accused parties. Informations in the case have

 been

 lodged against Thomas Kennedy, John Kennedy,

 James

 Cryan, Thomas Cryan and John Cryan of

 Ballinultha.

 Thomas Kennedy and James Cryan were brought up in

 custody from Roscommon Jail where they had been

 detained on remand and the others surrendered to

 bail.

 The inquiry lasted over three hours and it is

 understood that important evidence was tendered

 by the

 Cryans. The magistrates decided to admit all the

 accused to bail except Thomas Kennedy, who was

 remanded to Roscommon Jail, and the investigation

 was

 adjourned until Tuesday.

 

 

 

 

 

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 23rd December,1882.

 

 CONNAUGHT WINTER ASSIZES.

 

 Sligo, Monday.

 

 CHARGE OF MURDER.

 

 

 Thomas Kennedy was indicted for the murder of

 Thomas

 Hunt, on the 2nd October last. He pleaded "Not

 guilty,"

 and was defended by Mr. Kelly, instructed by Mr.

 Walsh of Sligo.

 Sergeant Robinson and The MacDermott, Q.C.

 (instructed

 by Mr. Randal Peyton), procecuted on behalf of

 the

 Crown.

 A special jury tried the case.

 Andrew McElroy examined by Sergeant Robinson,

 said - I

 live within three miles of Boyle county

 Roscommon. On

 the 2nd October last I was in Boyle, and I left

 the

 town a little after nine o'clock at night.

 I was accompanied homeward by Nicholas Carty and

 Michael O'Gara. As we went towards Mockmoyne I

 heard

 a noise on the road, and when we came near to the

 residence of Mr.Hopkins we saw a crowd before us.

 

 We then met three men - Thomas Kennedy (the

 prisoner's

 brother), and a man named Brennan - and shortly

 after

 we passed them we came to a place where there was

 a

 man lying on the road. That was about fifteen

 yards

 further on beyond the place where we met Brennan

 and

 the Kennedys. When we came up to the man we

 struck

 matches and we saw that he was Thomas Hunt. In my

 opinion he was dead then. Before we came up to

 him I

 heard a sound like that which would be caused by

 blows

 of a stick. I heard the sound twice, The only

 other

 people I saw on the road then, in addition to the

 three men we met were men before going home from

 the

 fair. The three men were stooped when I saw them

 first, and appeared to be looking for something

 the

 roadside. Carty asked the Kennedys and Brennan

 if

 they knew the man who was lying on the road, and

 the

 prisoner's brother said "no".

 Cross examined by Mr. Kelly - That answer was

 given

 before the matches were lighted. A great number

 of

 people were charged with this offence. A man

 named

 McElroy, a cousin of my own, was charged with it.

 Nicholas Carty, examined by The MacDermott, Q.C.,

 said

 - I was with the last witness leaving the fair of

 Boyle on the night of the 2nd October last. When

 we

 came near to the place where Hunt was lying on

 the

 road we met the Kennedys and Brennan, and some

 one of

 the three said he did not know the man who was

 lying.

 McElroy said "it was not the place to leave a man

 lying on the road," O'Gara lighted a match, and

 it was

 then seen that there was blood on Hunt's left

 nostril,

 and he appeared to be dead.

 Cross-examined by Mr. Kelly - I think there was a

 fourth man along with the Kennedys and Brennan.

 John Cryan , exanined by Sergeant Robinson, said

 - I

 left the October fair of Boyle with James Cryan,

 Thomas and Winifred Cryan. After we had gone a

 short

 distance out of the town we saw some men on the

 road

 before us. When we came near to them a man named

 Toolan said he was about to be beaten on his

 brother-in-law's account.

 Toolan and a man named McGowan then had a

 squabble and

 the deceased came up just then. When he came up

 Thomas

 Kennedy struck him on the back of the head and

 knocked

 him down. Kennedy then said - "I gave him that,

 and

 long I watched for him ". I did not see any

 blow

 struck but one, and after receiving that blow

 Hunt

 spoke a word. Winifred Cryan said to the prisoner

 "O

 Thomas, what is that you have done."

 Cross-examined by Mr. Kelly - I was myself

 charged

 with this offence, and my brother was arrested

 and in

 gaol at the time I gave this information.

 Thomas Cryan said - Thomas Kennedy raised his

 hand,

 and gave Hunt a slight tip first, and Hunt turned

 round and said, "I am struck. Kennedy struck him

 again on the back of the head, and he fell; and

 Kennedy then turned round, and either said, "I

 had it

 in for him," or "I watched him."

 Cross-examined by Mr. Kelly - I was arrested, but

 admitted to bail for this offence.

 To the MacDermott, Q.C. - The Kennedys said they

 would

 shoot me, or I would be shot, if I did not keep

 quiet.

 Winifred Cryan said - I am the prisoner's first

 cousin. On the night of the 2nd October, when I

 was

 going home with my husband and others from the

 fair of

 Boyle, I saw a crowd of people on the road at

 Mockmoyne. Two men, named Toolan and McGowan, had

 been

 fighting , and when the row was going on, Thomas

 Kennedy aimed a blow at Hunt, the deceased, and

 when

 Hunt was "settling" himself on his feet again,

 Kennedy

 gave him a second blow, and knocked him down.

 Kennedy then leaped back on the road and said, "I

 gave

 him that." John Kennedy asked the prisoner, when

 he

 leaped back on the road, if anyone had attempted

 to

 strike him. Nobody went to his assistance.

 Cross examined by Mr. Kelly - I saw the deceased

 taking hold of James Cryan's throat in Back-lane,

 in

 the town of Boyle about four o'clock in the

 afternoon

 of the fair day. James Cryan did not say then

 that he

 would have satisfaction.

 James Cryan stated that when he met Thomas Hunt

 in

 Boyle fair he asked him for money he owed him.

 Hunt

 said he had none to give him, and witness said he

 would process or summon him to petty sessions to

 recover the amount. Hunt caught him by the

 necktie but

 witness did not threaten him then; neither did he

 strike him at a later period during the evening

 or

 night.

 Dr.O'Farrell described the wounds inflicted on

 the

 deceased. There was a punctured wound on the back

 of

 his head, and opposite that wound there was a

 bruise

 running from the bridge of his to his right

 eyebrow

 causing a fissure in the bone, and opposite this

 wound

 on the temple there was a clot of blood on the

 brain.

 The wound on the back of the head was the one (in

 the

 doctor's opinion) that caused death. It was

 punctured,

 and appeared to have been made with a sharp stone

 or

 pointed instrument.

 This closed the evidence for the Crown, and

 Mr.Kelly

 addressed the jury on behalf of the prisoner. He

 submitted that the fatal quarrel on the road was

 the

 outcome of the row which was commenced between

 Hunt

 and James Cryan in the town of Boyle, when Cryan,

 as

 would be proved threatened, if he did not get

 money,

 he would have blood before going home. In the

 case of

 James Cryan, they had it proved that Hunt owed

 him

 money; that Hunt assaulted him in Boyle; and they

 would have testimony

 to satisfy them that Cryan threatened to be

 avenged.

 Thomas Keane, examined for the defence, said - I

 was

 present in Boyle when James Cryan asked the

 deceased,

 Thomas Hunt, for some money which he owed him.

 Hunt

 replied that he had none to give him, and Cryan

 said,

 "If you don't give me money, I'll have blood

 before I

 go home."

 Cross-examined by Sergeant Robinson - There was a

 big

 investigation held in the town of Boyle after

 this

 occurrence, and I made no information. There was

 nothing said by Cryan after he asked for the

 money

 about a summons or process. The conversation took

 place not in Back-lane, but in Bridge Street.

 Mr. Justice Lawson - in Bridge-street, did you

 say? -

 Yes.

 Was Winifred Cryan there? - No.

 Mr. Justice Lawson - Well, I believe you were not

 there at all.

 Mr. John McKeon said he was with the Kennedys on

 this

 night. When they came within a short distance of

 where

 a row was going on, on the road, John Kennedy

 left his

 brother, (the prisoner) behind him with witness,

 and

 he went to see if he would know any of the

 parties.

 When John came back again, witness went home, and

 the

 Kennedys remained behind.

 John Kennedy said - On the night of the 2nd

 October I

 accompanied my brother home from Boyle fair. The

 Cryans passed us on the road, and joined a party

 before us. Shortly afterwards I noticed that the

 parties before us appeared to be striking each

 other.

 I heard a voice saying - "Let him out." I told my

 brother to stop with McKeon until I would see if

 I

 knew any of the parties. I went on towards the

 crowd;

 and a stone was thrown up beside me. I called

 "Which

 of you is pegging the stones?" and I got no

 answer. I

 went up to within four yards of the men, and I

 saw

 Thomas Hunt standing along with the Cryans. I saw

 him

 get a blow which knocked him into middle of the

 road,

 and I then turned back to my brother, and told

 him

 that I had seen a man knocked down. Before

 turning

 back, however, I had seen Michael McGowan going

 across

 the road and giving Thomas Hunt (who had been

 knocked

 down) a kick where he lay.

 Sergeant Robinson - There is not one word of this

 in

 the printed statement of the witness.

 Witness - If necessary I can tell who knocked

 Thomas

 Hunt down.

 Mr. Kelly - Well, who did it?

 Witness - I was threatened up to this, but I

 won't be

 threatened any longer. James Cryan is the man who

 knocked him down.

 Mr. Justice Lawson - You have relieved your

 conscience

 now.

 Witness - Thomas Cryan threatened me.

 When I went to his house for boots he said "If

 you

 hold your tongue, nothing can be done; but, if

 you

 open your mouth, I'll shoot you."

 Cross-examined by Sergeant Robinson - Your

 brother was

 not afraid to go up to the crowd? He was afraid

 myself. I can't answer why one coward went on and

 left

 two cowards behind.

 Did you know it was Hunt who was struck when you

 saw

 him down? -Yes, I did.

 Did you ever swear "I did not know it was Hunt

 until

 Carty and McElroy came up?" - I don't know that

 I

 did.

 Did you ever swear this, "I can't say Hunt was

 struck

 more than once; I can't say that it was the Cryan

 who

 knocked him down ,

 I was threatened that I would be shot.

 Mr. Justice Lawson said he had read the

 information

 made by the witness, and in it he had not said a

 word

 about the presence of McKeon on this night.

 The evidence having concluded,

 Mr. Kelly again addressed the jury for the

 prisoner,

 and Sergeant Robinson replied, pointing out the

 salient points of the Crown case, and the one

 reliable

 and inconsistent character of the evidence

 tendered on

 behalf of the accused.

 There were some circumstances in the case which

 reduced the case to manslaughter; and if the jury

 agreed in that view, the Crown would be

 satisfied.

 Mr. Justice Lawson in charging the jury, said it

 would

 be very desirable if an example could be made of

 some

 of the witnesses, by prosecuting them for

 perjury.

 The Jury found the prisoner guilty of

 manslaughter.

 Thomas Kennedy found guilty of manslaughter of

 Thomas

 Hunt, was sentenced to five years penal

 servitude.

 Owen Dodd pleaded "Guilty" to an indictment

 charging

 him with having stolen a quantity of wool, the

 property of Mr. James Ward, of Kingsland, Boyle.

 He

 was sentenced to six months' imprisonment.

 

 

 

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 Hi

 This letter and form statement were written by my

 grand uncle Patrick James Cryan as part of his

 application for the Service (1917-1921) Medal. I

 am posting it to show the kinds of material it is

 possible to find from diverse sources. I had

 checked the army archives but recently discovered that

 the Pensions Administration Section of the

 Department of Defence, Aras an tSaile, Renmore, Galway

 contained archives of pension and medal applications.

 

 Caoimhghin

 Thanks to Veronica Cryan for the typing

 

 

 

 M.D. 2934.

 

 With reference to the requirement to indicate the

 Fianna Battalion on Sluagh Officer for 3 months

 ending 11/7/21, I beg leave to submit the following;-

 On the occasion of the split in the Irish

 National Volunteers in 1914, a small number of us sided

 with the Irish Volunteers and participated in all

 parades and route marches under the then Volunteer

 Commandant; Diarmuid O'Connell. Our own O/C. was then, and up

 to 1920, Maurice Griffin.

 In 1918, Diammuid O'Riordan took over as

 Volunteer Commandant, and I was instructed to accompany him

 and three other Volunteers in a rural collection of

 money for the purchase of arms. Later that year, we as

 a unit under our own O/C , took part in field

 manoeuvres carried out by the First Battalion. Following on

 this operation, the Brigade Commandant as well some

 Battalion and Company Officers were arrested and

 imprisoned. During their imprisonment, we formed

 part of a Volunteer/Fianna/Cumann na mBan operation to

 save their crops and harvest.

 

 In 1919 we also formed part of a Volunteer/Fianna

 exercise in the seizure of the town (Caherciveen)

 band instruments which were being retained by the

 National Volunteers, and secured them for the use of the

 of the Irish Volunteers. We also continued attending

 meetings and carried out field exercises under our own

 officers - Maurice Griffin, Sean O'Shea, David Cremin,

 etc.,

 

 In 1920, Maurice Griffin was transferred to the

 Volunteers and was replaced as O/C Fianna by Sean

 O'Shea. Later that year our collective activities

 became more difficult, and from then until the

 Truce we acted mostly individually in co-operation with

 Brigade, Battalion and Company Volunteer

 Officers.

 

 For instance, early in 1921, I was informed by

 the Battalion Adjutant (John Curran) that he had an

 important document of which he required some

 urgent typed copies. This document was in fact a copy of

 a secret directive from the Inspector-General,

 R.I.C. (which has been intercepted by the Dublin

 Intelligence unit) ordering the seizure of all Motor Cars,

 Motor Bicycles and Bicycles). I produced the required

 copies and we despatched them immediately,

 resulting there from, all available such vehicles was

 seized by the Volunteers on the following night.

 

 The R.I.C. reaction to this operation was an

 attempted round-up of the Volunteer Officers but all those

 wanted evaded and went on the run later to form

 the Brigade Flying Column. A month or so later (May,

 1921) the Company Adjutant (Patrick Gilsenan) told me

 he was to make contact with the Column and wished me to

 accompany him. On arrival he went into session

 with the Column Officers and on our way back he

 informed me of planned action to take effect within a few

 days. Three days later, I, with another Fianna member,

 John Griffin, were instructed to keep the R.I.C.

 Barracks under surveillance. By pre-arranged signal we

 indicated to Col. Michael Foley the advance of

 three armed policemen. He, in turn passed the

 information to Vol. Jesse O'Donoghue, who informed the waiting

 ambush party of the position. About eight minutes later

 they went into action, but were handicapped by a

 little girl having entered the line of fire and being

 slightly wounded. The R.I.C. party dashed into a

 public house and escaped by the back entrance,

 making their way across fields back to the barracks, one

 of them having received a leg wound.

 

 At no time were we of sufficient members to form

 a Battalion.

 

 Patrick J. Cryan.

 

 

 

 

 Ref. No: 3507.

 APPLICATION FOR MEDAL.

 

 Give full particulars and nature of service

 rendered up to and including the 11th July, 1921:-

 

 I became a member of Fianna Eireann on the

 occasion of the "Split" in the Volunteers in, as far as I can

 remember, 1913. Mr. Diarmuid O'Connell, whose

 present address is the "The Irish House", Caherciveen,

 Co. Kerry. was the newly elected Commandant of the

 Irish Volunteers and will, I feel sure vouch, for my

 activities up to the time of his arrest in 1917.

 During that period I took part in every activity

 of the local section of Fianna Eireann, which

 consisted mostly of route-marching. Mr. Diarmuid O'Riordan

 (now of the Kerry Cow Dairy, Cloghran. Co. Dublin,

 took over from Mr. O'Connell in 1917 and he is aware

 of my activities in the collections for arms,

 assistance in the organised saving of crops, etc., of

 imprisoned Volunteers, the carrying of despatches, etc.,

 etc., Of the small number of active members of the

 Fianna then with me almost all are deceased or have

 emigrated. The only Fianna Officer available is

 Mr. Sean O'Shea, c/o. Mr. D. O'Donaghue, West Main

 St., Caherciveen, Co. Kerry. Of the few survivors of

 the 3rd Brigade Staff for whom I worked Mr. Muiris

 O'Cleirigh, Sec. Gaelic League, Tralee, Co. Kerry

 is one in a position to certify my membership of and

 activities with the Fianna. During 1920-1921 I

 was on many occasions engaged in the carrying of

 despatches to the Column on Active Service and participated

 ins the noting of movements of members of the Crown

 Forces.

 

 Full Christian Name: PATRICK JAMES CRYAN

 (In Block Capitals)

 

 Present Address: Garda Siocanna H. Qrs.,

 Kilmainham,

 Dublin.

 

 

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16th July,1904.

A.BOYLE. T.C.

Mr. John Cryan, T.C. Vice Regal Bar, Boyle, Appealed against the decision of the court below dismissing a claim for £10 for the malicious killing of a ram, applicant's property at Langnamuddagh near Boyle.

Mr. P.G.P. MacDermot ---That case has been withdrawn.

Lord Chief Baron --- Do you want costs?

Mr. P.C.P. MacDermot --- No costs, my lord.

Lord Chief Baron --- You want an order and costs?

Mr. P.C.P. MacDermot---- Affirmed no to costs.

The Lord Chief Baron affirmed the damage and allow no costs.

 

 

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28th January, 1904.

 

FRIDAY.

 

 

BIG CARROWREAGH MALICIOUS

INJURY CASE.

 

 

Malicious Injury:

 

Pat Cryan, Carrowreagh, near Killucan, sought to

recover £50 compensation for a quantity of hay,

his

property, being maliciously burned on the 26th

September.

 

Mr. M. McKeon, solicitor, appeared for the

applicant,

and Mr. P.O.P. MacDermot for the Carrick

No.2.District Council.

 

Patrick Cryan , in reply to Mr. McKeon deposed he

was

the applicant, and had lands at Carrowreagh.  He

farmed about 70 acres of land, and he remembered

the

26th September, the evening before the stack was

burned. This hay he was seeking compensation for

was

away from his home in a field. On the morning of

the

27th at about eight oclock  Mrs. Calery came and

told

him about the burning. When he went down the hay

was

burnt in a few feet from top to bottom, and it

was all

ablaze. The Morning was fine and he did his best

to

save it. There was a fence around the hay, barbed

wire

 etc., and one portion of  that was broken down.

The

act must have been mallicious, and more than one

person must have committed the act, owing to the

extent of the destruction.  He was and ther were

fourteen tons of hay consumed and if was worth

3s.6d.

a cwt where it was, and it was also the last wisp

of

hay he ever saved.

 

To Mr. McDermot --- I am afraid I have not

claimed

enough, and in concequence of the burning of this

hay,

I could not sell some of my bullocks.

 

Can you show any malice of any sort against you? 

I

dont think so.

 

Had you a word with any of your neighbours ?  I

may

have. It shows you I have  enemies.

 

Mr. Brennan, the District Councellor, a good

neighbour, who  is to give eveidence ? He is a

fince

neighbour to come up and go against me.

 

As District Councellor, should he let you get a

false

claim? ---- I have no false claim.

 

A District Councellor should let you get £50 for

the

hay that we say that went on fire  itself.

 

Cryan said he let matter go for too long as a

mare

that was worth £50, a few years ago

 had her knee cut clean through, and about three

years

ago four men came to the door and said they would

burn

the house under him. Then they drove out three of

his

horses and cut the knee out of one of them.

 

Mr. Watson , V.H. could bear him out in his

statement.

 

Mr. MacDermot --- Have you him here ----No

 

Serjeant MacElroy deposed  he heard of the

burning

about two o'clock in the evening of the 27th ,

and on

examining of the scene of the occurence he saw a

hanged cock  of the saved hay?

Judging from the appearance of the hay  he

thought

there would be about ten tons originally in the

cock

of which there were eight tons destroyed and two

saved. The hay smelled very strongly of smoke.

 

To his Lordship. I am a judge of hay and it

appeared

to be [...]

 

By Mr. Mckeon , I cannot say if the hay went on

fire

itself.

 

To Mr. McDermot, I cannot say if the fence was

broken

down by the people trying to save the hay. Cryan

is a

popular man in the district.

 

Owen Travers, in reply to Mr. Mckeon  deposed to

endevouring to save his hay.

There should be at least ten tons of hay in the

cock.

 

To Mr. MacDermot ----- I dont say what was the

quality

of the hay.

 

Mr. James Brennan Q.C. deposed that he and Cryan

were

good neighbours and there was not the slightest

ill

feeling against him in the locallity. He did not

hear

of any of the outrages Cryan complained of , but

he

knew of a foal of his was killed once by

lightening .

Witness and the neighbours helped to put out the

fire.

Altogether there would be about seven and  [sic]

eight tons of hay in the cock. The hay was of bad

quality.

 

To Mr. McKeon----I saw a good deal later    hay

bought

at the Carrick market for 16d a cwt.

 

It is not because when there is a glut of it in

the

market they sell it at any price before they

bring it

home ? No.

 

Mr. McDermot said there was no evidence to show

that

the act was malicious and the ratepayers were not

an

Insurance Company, and compelled to pay for every

accident that orrured .

 

Mr. McKeon submitted that the act was wanton, and

the

lads were clear on that point and pointed to

malice .

No-one could come to that conclusion on the

evidence,

that the burning was a result of an accident.

 

His Lordship said his mind was not altogether

free

from doubt on the matter. As a juror, he came to

the

opinion that the hay must have been deliberately

and

maliciously set on fire. He agreed that what

Mr.Brennan said, that the hay could not have gone

on

fire, except struck by lightening. Mr. Brennan

had

only done his duty to the ratepayers  in coming

forward and giving his evidence, and he had given

the

court much assistance. He would allow £15

compensation, to be levied off the Carrick on

Shannon

No.3.Rural District,  and allow costs and

expenses.  

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Subject: [Cryan et al.] Stephen Cryan's Pension Application To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Hi all, An example follows of an application for a Military Service Pension. They are very detailed forms as you will see. This application by my grand uncle Stephen Cryan finally gives me information about a relative whose activities I initially had only heard rumours. As Stephen had never married I had very little information about him. I was told he was buried on Valentia island. I went down and found the grave. From the year of his death I got his day of death in the Registry of Births, Deaths and Marriages. I then went to the National Library and checked The Kerryman newspaper for the week and 2 weeks after he died. In that issue I found 2 articles, one a description of the funeral and the other a summary of his life which mentioned that he had been a member of the Kerry No 3 Brigade. But I still had no idea of his own activities in the unit until I was sent this document... caoimhghin

Thanks to Veronica Cryan for the typing.

 

Military Service Pensions Act, 1934.

APPLICATION TO THE MINISTER FOR DEFENCE FOR A SERVICE CERTIFICATE.

 

(1.) ACTIVE SERVICE AT ANY TIME DURING THE WEEK COMMENCING ON THE 23RD DAY OF APRIL, 1916. (a) Did you render active service in the week commencing 23rd April 1916. If so, from what date in that week ? ......week commencing 23/4/16. (b) Unit or Units ..A Coy [Company] .......A Coy. No.1.Batt. Kerry.3. (c) Duration (giving dates) of service .........The whole week (d) District or Districts in which active service was rendered .........Caherciveen District. (e) Officer Commanding in each instance .........Jer. O'Connell. (f) In what way do you claim that your service was active service? ..........Under orders awaiting to be called to Tralee. (g) Particulars of any military operations or engagements or services rendered during the period .........Molilized for week awaiting orders. (h) Absence from duty and cause ...........Nil. (i) References who can testify as to your statements above :- NAME ADDRESS Jerh. O Connell Main St, Caherciveen Michael Griffin East End, Caherciveen John Curran Waterville

 

(2.) CONTINUOUS ACTIVE SERVICE DURING PERIOD COMPRISING - (a) period from 1st April,1916, and (b) period from 30th April, 1916, to March, 1917. (a) Unit or Units .........A Coy. No.1. Batt. Kerry.3. (b) Duration (giving dates) of service ..........Whole Period. (c) District or Districts in which active service was rendered ............Caherciveen District. (d) Officer Commanding in each instance .............Jerh. O'Connell (e) In what way do you claim that your service was active service? .............Being drilled twice weekly, Attending Route Marches. (f) Particulars of any military operations or engagements or services rendered during the period ........Attended Commemoration of Thomas Ashe at Dingle, Co. Kerry, and Marched in Military formation in defiance of R.I.C. also attended Casement's Anniversary at Banna Strand. (g) Absence from duty and cause ...........None. (h) References who can testify as to your statements above :- NAME ADDRESS Jerh. O Connell Main St, Caherciveen Michael Griffin East End, Caherciveen John Curran Waterville

 

(3.) CONTINUOUS ACTIVE SERVICE DURING PERIOD COMMENCING - (a) Unit or Units ..........A Coy. No.1. Batt. Kerry, No.3. Brigade. (b) Duration (giving dates) of service .........1st April 1917 to 31/3/18. (c) District or Districts in which active service was rendered ............Caherciveen. (d) Officer Commanding in each instance ............Jeremiah O'Riordan. (e) In what way do you claim that your service was active service? .............Collecting Money on behalf of the orphans and dependants of the leaders executed in Dublin. (f) Particulars of any military operations or engagements or services rendered during the period ............Drilled twice weekly, collecting money for the purchase of arms. Boycotting British Recruiters meetings. Helped to organise Sinn Fein Courts. Helped to have Sinn Fein Members elected to Kerry Courts Council. Helped to establish Sinn Fein Clubs. (g) Absence from duty and cause ...........Nil. (h) References who can testify as to your statements above :- NAME ADDRESS Jerh. O Connell Main St, Caherciveen Michael Griffin East End, Caherciveen John Curran Waterville, Killarney.

 

(4.) CONTINUOUS ACTIVE SERVICE DURING PERIOD COMMENCING - FROM 1ST APRIL, 1918 to 31ST MARCH. 1919. (a) Unit or Units ...............A Coy. No.1.Batt. Kerry, No.3. Brigade. (b) Duration (giving dates) of service ............1st April,1918 to 31/3/1919. (c) District or Districts in which active service was rendered ...............Cahersiveen and Aughatubrid. (d) Officer Commanding in each instance ...............Jeremiah O'Riordon. (e) In what way do you claim that your service was active service? ..............General training, Organising Companys and administering the oath and raiding for Arms. Collecting money for [...] (f) Particulars of any military operations or engagements or services rendered during the period .............Did Despatching, Riding, and Intelligence Work. (g) Absence from duty and cause .............. Nil. (h) References who can testify as to your statements above :- NAME ADDRESS Jerh. O Connell Main St, Caherciveen Michael Griffin East End, Caherciveen John Curran Waterville

 

(5.) CONTINUOUS ACTIVE SERVICE DURING PERIOD COMMENCING - (a) Unit or Units .............A Coy. No. 1. Batt. Kerry, No. 3. Brigade. (b) Duration (giving dates) of service ..............1st April,1919 to 31st March, 1920. (c) District or Districts in which active service was rendered ...............Caherciveen. (d) Officer Commanding in each instance ...............Jeremiah O'Riordan. (e) In what way do you claim that your service was active service? .............General training, Bomb practice, Route Marches, Censoring Mails. (f) Particulars of any military operations or engagements or services rendered during the period ..........Police Work, Boycotting People attending British Courts, Clerk of District Court during period. Helped in raid on Customs office at Caherciveen also helped to collect for the Eireann Loan. (g) Absence from duty and cause .............Nil. (h) References who can testify as to your statements above :- NAME ADDRESS Jerh. O Connell Main St, Caherciveen Michael Griffin East End, Caherciveen John Curran Waterville

 

(6.) CONTINUOUS ACTIVE SERVICE DURING PERIOD COMMENCING - from 1ST APRIL, 1920 TO 31ST MARCH 1921. (a) Unit or Units .............4 Coy. No. 1. Batt. Kerry, No.3. Brigade. (b) Duration (giving dates) of service ............1st April, 1920 to 31st March, 1921. (c) District or Districts in which active service was rendered ............Caherciveen and Waterville. (d) Officer Commanding in each instance ...............Jerh. O'Riordan (e) In what way do you claim that your service was active service? .................General orders, Helped to dismantle Motor Cars in the area. (f) Particulars of any military operations or engagements or services rendered during the period ...........General training and Route marches, making Pellets for Shot Guns, Destroying Enemy Communications, Attempted hold up of R.I.C. at [...].Hold up of Emigrants to America.. (g) Absence from duty and cause ...............Nil. (h) References who can testify as to your statements above :- NAME ADDRESS Jerh. O Connell Main St, Caherciveen Michael Griffin East End, Caherciveen John Curran Waterville

 

(7.) CONTINUOUS ACTIVE SERVICE DURING PERIOD COMMENCING - (a) Unit or Units .............4. Coy. No.1. Batt. Kerry, 3 Brigade, "A.S.U." (b) Duration (giving dates) of service ..............1/4/21 to 11/7/21. (c) District or Districts in which active service was rendered .............Caherciveen .Killoc, Failmore, (d) Officer Commanding in each instance ...................Jeremiah O'Riordan. (e) In what way do you claim that your service was active service? .............Commandeering Motor Cars and Bicycles, Raiding for railway tools and telephones, "Generals orders" Ambush at New Street, Caherciveen on R.I.C. Seized all keys and sanders [?] ......from Wireless College. (f) Particulars of any military operations or engagements or services rendered during the period ...........Ambush at East End, Caherciveen on 14/5/21 and on 17/5/21 at East End Caherciveen, Attended Ambush at [...] Caherciveen, Instructor of Signalling Corps. (g) Absence from duty and cause .................Nil. (h) References who can testify as to your statements above :- NAME ADDRESS Jerh. O Connell Main St, Caherciveen Michael Griffin East End, Caherciveen John Curran Waterville

 

(8.) CONTINUOUS ACTIVE SERVICE DURING PERIOD COMMENCING - (a) Unit or Units .............No.1. Batt. A Coy. Kerry, 3 Brigade. (b) Duration (giving dates) of service ................12/7/21 to 30/6/22. (c) District or Districts in which active service was rendered ............Caherciveen, Ballinskelligs, Portmagee and Valentia. (d) Officer Commanding in each instance ..................Jerh. O'Riordan. (e) In what way do you claim that your service was active service? ..............Organising No. 2. Battalion Area, Helped in dismantling of Cable Station at Valentia Island.. (f) Particulars of any military operations or engagements or services rendered during the period ............Attended Brigade Training Camp, for 10 days and acted as Camp Adjutant, also did duty as Assistant Brigade Adjutant. Helped in taking over of Barracks at Caherciveen, also Brigade Liaison officer. (g) Absence from duty and cause ..............Nil. (h) References who can testify as to your statements above :- NAME ADDRESS Jerh. O Connell Main St, Caherciveen Michael Griffin East End, Caherciveen John Curran Waterville

 

(9.) CONTINUOUS ACTIVE SERVICE DURING PERIOD FROM 1ST JULY, 1922 to 31ST MARCH, 1923. (a) Unit or Units ...............A Coy. No. 1. Batt. Kerry, No.3. Brigade. (b) Duration (giving dates) of service ..............1st July, 1922 to 31st March, 1923. (c) District or Districts in which active service was rendered ..................Caherciveen. (d) Officer Commanding in each instance ..............Jerh. O'Riordan. (e) In what way do you claim that your service was active service? ...............Sending out foodstuffs to Column, Clothing etc., (f) Particulars of any military operations or engagements or services rendered during the period ............Reporting on Military Movements and doing Intelligence Work. Helped in the Burning of R.I.C. Barracks at Caherciveen. (g) Absence from duty and cause ..................Nil. (h) References who can testify as to your statements above :- NAME ADDRESS Jerh. O Connell Main St, Caherciveen Michael Griffin East End, Caherciveen John Curran Waterville

 

(10.) CONTINUOUS ACTIVE SERVICE DURING PERIOD FROM 1ST APRIL, 1923, TO 30TH SEPTEMBER, 1923. (a) Unit or Units ...........A.Coy. No.1. Batt. Kerry, No 3 Brigade. (b) Duration (giving dates) of service .............1st April, 1923 to 30/9/23. (c) District or Districts in which active service was rendered ..............Caherciveen and Killorglin. (d) Officer Commanding in each instance ...............Jerh. O'Riordan. (e) In what way do you claim that your service was active service? ..............Doing Intelligence work for Column and reporting on Military movements etc., (f) Particulars of any military operations or engagements or services rendered during the period ..............Intelligence work, Providing food stuffs and Clothing for Column. (g) Absence from duty and cause ................Nil. (h) References who can testify as to your statements above :- NAME ADDRESS Jerh. O ' Riordan Kerry Con Dairy, Cloghran. Co. Dublin. Michael Griffin East End, Caherciveen. John Curran Waterville, Killarney, Co. Kerry.

 

 

 

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                            Hi there fellow Cryan!

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                      I came across your page while looking for genealogy info on my family.  My great grandfather,                      Austin Cryan came to the U.S. by way of Canada sometime around the 1860's.  He and his wife                      Margret setteled in North Dakota before moving to Texas in 1912.  Does any of this sound familiar                      to you?   I have had alot of trouble trying to continue the history to before they immigrated.  Where                      can I go to find out more about their roots in Ireland.  Are there any ships' passanger manifests

                      that you know of?  Any info you have or anything you could do to put me on the right track would                      be greatly appreciated.  I am glad to see others taking interest in Cryan history.  Thanks and keep                      in touch.

                      -Kenneth Cryan

 

 

 

 

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                      Roscommon Herald Articles No. 124

                      Thanks to Veronica Cryan for the typing

 

 

 

                       28th October,1905.

 

                       A CLOGHER CASE.

 

                       COUNTY COUNCELLOR CHARGED WITH ASSAULT.

 

 

                       Charles O'Donnell, school teacher, Clogher, Co.

                       Sligo,

                       brought an action for £50 damages for assault

                      and

                       battery, against Mr.Patrick Higgins, County

                       Councellor, Edmondstown on the 1st August, 1905.

                       and

                       for loan and damages sustained and medical fees

                       paid

                       to the plaintiff in consequence of said assault

                       and

                       battery.

 

                       The following were sworn to try the case :-

                       Messrs.

                       James Mullany, Ballymount,{........}Thomas

                       Collins,

                       Patrick Conrean, John Moran, Peter Conlon, John

                       Colins.

 

                       Thomas Cryan , Clogher, brought a similar action

                       against Patrick Higgins,Maheraboy: Mathew Hunt,

                       Toberbraken, and Henry Hunt, do.

 

                       Mr. H. MacDermot, B.L. (instructed by Mr.

                       D.MacDermot)

                       appeared for Higgins and the Hunts, and Mr.

                       F.J.McMorrow appeared for O'Donnell.

 

                       Both cases were tried together.

 

                       Mr. McMorrow, in opening the case for O'Donnell

                       and

                       Cryan , said he represented two men in that

                       action .

                       The first and the most important was a Mr.

                       Charles

                       O'Donnell a teacher in the Presbyterian school

                       at a

                       place called Clogher, a short distance from the

                       town

                       of Ballaaghadreen, and the other plaintif was a

                       Mr.

                       Thomas Cryan , farmer who lived partly by his

                       labour.

 

                       Charles O'Donnell said, said in reply to Mr.

                       McMorrow,

                       that as he came towards Mr. Higgins , Mathew

                       Hunt and

                       Mr. Higgins were there. He bade good evening to

                       the

                       two men, and Mr. Higgins stepped out on the road

                       and

                       said in angry tone. "What about that machine?"

                       and

                       witness said he put a new bottom in the machine

                       and he

                       wanted to be compensated. Cryan said he had

                      given

                       him

                       a [tube?]. Higgins snatched a whip from Cryan

                      and

                       Cryan took the whip back again. Witness asked

                      Mr.

                       Higgins what was the meaning of this conduct ,

                       and I

                       said , "Keep off you scoundrel." He got a slight

                       lash

                       of the whip from Higgins , and he drew his

                      stick.

                       They

                       came to To......Bridge, and as soon as the cart

                       passed

                       , Higgins grasped at the stick and said, "Now

                       Harry ,"

                       meaning Henry Hunt . Hunt then went for Cryan.

                       Higgins then grappled with the witness , and

                       punched

                       him on the chest with his knees.

                       Consequently his watch was broken . Witness

                      asked

                       Higgins what he had against him, and he said he

                       had

                       nothing against him , and he said he warned him

                       not to

                       go with "that kid" Subsequently Higgins have him

                       a

                       blow of a stick. In consequence of the advice

                       Cryan

                       and himself got from the police, they went to

                       Dr.McDermott, who examined Cryan particularly .

 

                       Cryan examined by Mr. Hal MacDermott----- I

                      would

                       give

                       my friend, Cryan a character . In his opinion he

                       should say Cryan is not of good character.

                       Witness

                       was a man of good character, and taught at the

                       Presbyterian National School. Prior to that he

                       was

                       teaching in the Roman Catholic school at

                       Kilmovee.

 

                       Under what circumstances were your services

                       dispenced

                       with?---- A conspiracy was got up against me.

 

                       What was the nature of the conspiracy ?

 

                       The conspiracy was to have revenge upon me on

                       account

                       -----

 

                       What did the people accuse you of ? ----

 

                       Criminally assaulting a woman .

 

                       Were you called before the National Board of

                       Education

                       ----- The [inspector?] investigated it.

 

                       After that how long did you remain in the school

                       ? ---

                       About a fortnight.

 

                       After your services had been dispenced with did

                       you

                       consider it neccesary to have your religion

                       changed ?

                       That is a matter for myself.

 

                       What religion are you now ? --- A Presbyterian.

 

                       How long after you became a Presbyterian and

                      your

                       services dispenced with at Kilmovee school, did

                       you

                       become attached to the Presbyterian school at

                       Clogher

                       ? ----- Nearly four years. Did it take nearly

                       four

                       years to whitewash you to suit the Presbyterian

                       Body ?

                       ----- No.

 

                       What were you doing during the four years,

                       loafing?

                       --- No. sir.

 

                       To his Lordship ----- This inquiry which Mr. Hal

                       MacDermot had made so much about was an unsworn

                       inquiry.

 

                       Mr. Hal MacDermot ---- Was it because you were

                       dismissed from the Catholic school you became a

                       Prestbyterian? ---- I refuse to answer.

 

                       His Lordship ----- Better take the answer as he

                       gives

                       it.

 

                       Mr. Hal MacDermot --- I will test this witness.

 

                       Mr. McMorrow --- it is the first time I have a

                       question of religion being made a question of

                       character.

 

                       Mr. Hal MacDermot ---- You have a lot of things

                       to

                       learn yet.

 

                       Mr. MacMorrow ---- I do not want to learn any

                       religion

                       from you. I can tell you that I have not learned

                       to be

                       an Atheist yet.

 

                       The witness, continuing , said the people of

                       Ballaghdereen were good enough to elect Mr.

                       Higgins

                       and he believed his letter of congratulation was

                       amongst the first he received.

 

                       Mr. McMorrow --- There was no petition.

 

                       In reply to Mr. McMorrow, witness said after his

                       dismissal he would not be allowed the

                       representation

                       of a solicitor. He had to satisfy his present

                       employer that he was of good moral character

                       before he

                       was appointed to the Clogher school.

 

                       Cryan deposed he was driving cars for Mr.

                      Clarkes

                       supporters at the last election. As he was

                       driving by

                       Mr. Higgin's house arising out of an argument

                       Higgins

                       snatched the whip from witness. Pat Higgins

                       caught

                       O'Donnell by the wrist. For eight days he was

                       unable

                       to much work, owing to the effects of the

                      attack.

                       Witness was not the possessor of a knife on that

                       occasion.

 

                       Cross-examined ---- what do you think of

                      yourself

                       ?

                       ---- Faith I am middling (laughter).

 

                       You know the town of Ballaghaderreen, and like

                       myself

                       you know the courthouse there ?----Yes.

 

                       Mr. MacDermott related the charges against the

                       witness

                       at the Ballaghaderreen court.

 

                       By Mr. MacDermott ---- I was convicted at

                       Mullaghroe

                       on several occasions for assault, but one of the

                       assault was on a cousin of mine. I dont remember

                       assaulting Michael Cryan or being convicted of

                       it.

 

                       Mr. McMorrow --- He may not be guilty of them

                       all.

 

                       Mr. H. McDermott, he was not guilty of

                      [couple?],

                       but

                       unfortunaly he was convicted (laughter).

 

                       Witness further cross-examined, stated he was

                       convicted of assault on his brother, and added

                       "maybe

                       he wanted it "

 

                       Mr.MacDermott ---- And perhaps Higgins and Hunt

                       wanted

                       it too. On October the 16th did you assault

                       Catherine

                       Golden ? ---- I dont know.

 

                       Do you know a lady called Catherine Golden ?

                       ----No.

 

                       His Lordship ---- Do you know a woman called

                       Catherine

                       Golden ?

 

                       Cryan ----I do (laughter).

 

                       Mr. MacDermott ---- Were you convicted of

                       assaulting

                       Catherine Golden ? ---- She proved it anyway.

 

                       Do you remember smashing a window of Pat

                       Stenson's and

                       being convicted of it ? ---- It all happened on >

                       the

                       same night, and I had the misfortune to fall

                       through

                       the window.

 

                       Were you bound to the peace for threatening

                       Thomas

                       Cryan? ----Yes.

 

                       And after all these convictions, would I be

                      using

                       strong language if I called you a blackguard?

                      ---

                       I

                       dont know.

 

                       Would you place any reliance on the evidence of

                      a

                       man

                       who was convicted eleven times for assault on

                      men

                       and

                       women ? ---- I dont know.

 

                       Witness said he had two bottles of porter and he

                       got a

                       drink from the Prespyterian teacher and another

                       from

                       a policeman to whom he brought turf.

 

                       To Mr. McMorrow ---- I think it was all the

                      drink

                       I

                       had, but I had two more, four bottles in all.

                       (laughter).

 

                       Mr. MacDermott ---- Two more ?

 

                       Cryan --- It is hard to remember things like

                       that

                       (Laughter).

 

                       Mrs. Cryan gave evidence of a similar nature.

                      Her

                       husband was not such a bad sort as was described

                       , as

                       when he got a drink he lay down , and when he

                       was

                       half drunk he was quarrelsome enough (laughter).

 

                       Michael O'Donnell, a son of Charles O'Donnell ,

                       deposed that Higgins came up to his father that

                       night

                       and asked him why he had not returned home the

                       spraying machine, and then the row started. He

                       saw the

                       father knocked down and the two Hunts making at

                       Cryan.

 

                       To Mr.MacDermott ----I am in the sixth class,

                       second

                       stage, and I often learn pieces off by heart,

                      but

                       I

                       did not learn off the story I have told you. My

                       father said I would have to give evidence of

                      what

                       I

                       saw.

 

                       Michael McDonnell gave edvidence as to

                      witnessing

                       the

                       assault. He heard Mrs Cryan shouting that Mr.

                       Higgins had Mr. ODonnell almost killed with the

                       stick

                       and that the Hunts were attacking her Husband.

                       Afterwards he saw Higgins and the Hunts run down

                       the

                       lane.

 

                       To Mr. MacDermott ---- I was not glad to be

                       dragged

                       into this case, but Hunt and I are not on

                       speaking

                       terms, and for years had litigation.

 

                       Dr.H. McDermott, Ballaghadreen, deposed to

                       examining

                       Cryan and O'Donnnell on the night of the

                       occurrence.

                       Cryan was suffering from the wound on the crown

                       on

                       his head and lacerated wounds on the left cheek

                       and

                       nose. He was also wounded elsewhere. O'Donnell

                       had a

                       wound on the angle of his right eye, which was

                       nasty

                       looking and jagged.

 

                       The witness was not cross-examined.

 

                       Mr. P. Higgins deposed he was County Councellor

                       for

                       the Ballaghaderreen division. On the night in

                       question

                       he met O'Donnell as they were always friends,

                      and

                       shook hands. After a while he asked O'Donnell to

                       return him his spraying machine which he lent

                      him

                       in

                       the month of June. O'Donnell said it was too

                       late to

                       spray now. Witness told what was good to loan

                       was

                       good to return , and Cryan then interfered, and

                       witness told him to leave off. O'Donnell then

                       jumped

                       off the cart and hit him with a stick on the arm

                       and

                       knocked the head off it. Witness wrenched the

                       stick

                       from O'Donnell and Cryan then came on with a

                       stone in

                       his hand, and witness asked Hunt not to allow

                       Cryan

                       to come on. The scuttle then ended, but witness

                       then

                       went after the Hunts to protect them, knowing

                      the

                       character of of the men who attacked them. After

                       a

                       time he caught up to the Hunts and O'Donnell

                      then

                       came

                       on and caught hi around the waist, and they both

                       fell.

                       Cryan then went towards the Hunts with a knife

                       and a

                       stone in his hand, but witness could not say

                      what

                       happened afterwards, as they separated again.

                       Witness

                       went into Mrs. Hunts place for safety. Cryan

                       threw a

                       stone at them as they were going up the avenue.

 

                       To Mr. McMorrow ----- I was brought up at the

                       Ballaghaderreen Petty Sessions for attacking a

                       man

                       named Hara but the case was dismissed. I know

                       Cryan

                       was driving carts for Mr. Clarke during the

                       election,

                       but I had no ill will towards him for it.

 

                       Mr. M. Hunt gave evidence of a corrovorative

                       nature.

                       He deposed as to Cryan stabing him with a knife.

 

                       Mr. MacDermot, in addressing the jury for his

                       clients,

                       said there was an apology owing them, because

                       their

                       time was taken up with a case of the most

                      trivial

                       character. Now Cryan was an old practitioner at

                       the

                       court, and could the jury believe a man with his

                       record, a question of religion was introduced,

                       but he

                       did not care whether a man was a Mohamedan,

                       Catholic,

                       Presbyterian or Protestant, a man could have his

                       beliefs and he a man of integrity and honesty.

                       He

                       would anyhow have nothing to do with a man who

                       started

                       life as a teacher in a Catholic school, and

                       brought

                       before the Board --- his paymasters, and

                       convicted by

                       them on a charge and dismissed from the school.

                       Because he was dismissed he changed his

                      religion.

                       O'Donnell had tried to insinuate that he was

                       unfairly

                       treated by Cannon O'Hara, a clergyman who was

                       known to

                       every Catholic and Protestant as an upright and

                       good

                       priest. They had next to consider the evidence

                      of

                       Cryan, the breath of his whose nostrils was a

                      row

                       and

                       who since '93 was consistantly bound to the

                       peace, not

                       only for assaulting his fellow man, but also the

                       women

                       of his locality.

 

                       Mr. McMorrow said that after the eloquent of Mr.

                       McDermott, it became his duty to give the

                      prosaic

                       details of this assault to the jury, and to take

                       away

                       from the case the sentimental matters Mr.

                       MacDermott

                       graced it with. It did not follow that if a man

                       happened to be in court on a few occasions, that

                       he

                       should be assaulted, and not get compensation

                      for

                       it.

                       Mr. MacDermott had thought well to dwell

                      strongly

                       upon

                       a certain matter, which he submitted was

                      entirely

                       foreign to the case. It was not fair to

                      introduce

                       the

                       religious element in to the case, as a man was

                       perfectly entitled to exercise his judgment and

                       change

                       his religion if he thought fit, and that was not

                       disgrace. A Protestant had a right to become a

                       convert to Catholicity, and vice versa, and now

                       this

                       old story had been raked up, but it should not

                       influence the jury. Because a man had acted as

                       O'Donnell had done to exercise his judgment, if

                       he

                       thought he was unfairly treated, it was

                       endeavoured

                       now to end a stigma on him, but it should not

                       weigh

                       with the jury when investigating the facts of

                      the

                       case, and nature of the assault. Mr. O'Donnell

                       through

                       the death of a witness, had a chance of

                       re-opening the

                       case, and proving that he was wronged. All sides

                       of a

                       story should be heard, and the truth could then

                       be got

                       at, and because a wreath of sentiment was sought

                       to be

                       woven about the case, the jury should not be run

                       away

                       with it.

 

                       His Lordship, in reviewing the evidence, said

                      Mr.

                       McMorrow in an extremely able and admirable for

                       his

                       clients had very properly refered to the

                      question

                       of

                       the religious element in the case, and he

                       thoroughly

                       agreed with his remarks. A Protestant was

                       perfectly

                       entitled to change his religion, as well as a

                       Catholic, and it was a pity council was

                       instructed to

                       refer to it .

 

                       Mr. Hal McDermott said he was not instructed to

                       say

                       so, and he took full responsibility.

 

                       His Lordship said it did not follow that because

                       a man

                       had changed his religion, he could not go into a

                       court

                       to get justice. This was a land of liberty and

                       freedom, and he hoped it would continue so;

                       therefore, because O'Donnell had thought it fit

                       to

                       change his religion, it should not be flung in

                       his

                       teeth. It was a pity this story about O'Donnell

                       in

                       connection with a woman was raked up, and he

                       thought,

                       as he said before, it should be left out. He had

                       met

                       a great many people in his time, who left their

                       Church

                       because they thought they had received wrong

                       treatment

                       ----- men who were Protestants becoming

                      Catholic,

                       and

                       the reverse, and he always found them to be

                       decent

                       and respectable as [put?] foot to ground. Mr.

                       O'Donnell was a teacher of a Presbyterian school

                       and

                       he would not be there except he was deserving,

                       and

                       Presbyterians were very careful about the maner

                       in

                       which their children were brought up.

 

                       His Lordship then dealt fully with the facts of

                       the

                       case, and concluded by asking the jury to do

                       justice

                       between man and man.

 

                       The jury then retired and after a short absence

                       returned into court, stating they had found a

                       verdict

                       in favour of the defendants Higgins and the

                       Hunts, and

                       granted costs to them.

 

 

 

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                         To:

                            "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>

                      Subject:

                            Re: [Cryan et al.] A Cryan/Crean/Crehan Y-DNA Project?

                        Date:

                            Tue, 25 Feb 2003 09:44:49 -0500

 

 

 

 

 

                      Wow!  What an interesting idea, and a fascinating

                      bit of science fact.

                      How'd you come across this?

 

 

                      ----- Original Message -----

                      From: "Caoimhghin O Croidheain"

                      <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>

                      To: <CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com>

                      Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 6:43 AM

                      Subject: [Cryan et al.] A Cryan/Crean/Crehan

                      Y-DNA Project?

 

 

                      > Hi everybody,

                      >

                      > I would like to initiate a discussion on

                      another

                      > aspect of research which I think is worth

                      looking at.

                      >

                      > I read a very interesting article in Irish

                      Roots last

                      > night on the Glennon Y-DNA Project. Clarke

                      Glennon

                      > used  http://www.familytreedna.com/ to find out

                      if

                      > Glennons in the same area came from the same

                      ancestor

                      > with some interesting results. With the Y-DNA

                      testing

                      > males are able to see if another male is a

                      descendent

                      > from         their paternal grandfather's

                      paternal

                      > side.

                      >

                      > The value of this type of research to the

                      > Cryan/Crean/Crehan names is that it might

                      establish if

                      > the Cryans are directly connected to the Creans

                      and

                      > Crehans and prove that it is just spelling

                      differences

                      > that separate them. The test would show a

                      common

                      > remote ancestor but with the same branch or

                      different

                      > branches of the same family. This is worth

                      considering

                      > as we have so little information before 1800,

                      despite

                      > the wealth of historical info on the 16th and

                      17th

                      > century Creans.  See a list of current family

                      projects

                      > here - http://www.familytreedna.com/surname.asp

                      >

                      >

                      > There is a very interesting chart here -

                      > http://www.familytreedna.com/ancestorchart.html

                      > showing how the Y chromosome is passed down

                      virtually

                      > unchanged over many generations. A detailed

                      > explanation of DNA is here-

                      > http://blairgenealogy.com/dna/dna101.html

                      >

                      > Regarding privacy - "Family Tree DNA follows

                      the most

                      > stringent guidelines for

                      >                          privacy. ---FTDNA

                      controls

                      > the Surnames Database Library and

                      >                          test scores, while the

                      > University of Arizona controls and

                      >                          maintains your genetic

                      assets

                      > on our behalf. Therefore, there is

                      >                          a double safety net.

                      The

                      > first is maintained by Family Tree DNA

                      >                          according to State

                      > legislation guidelines and the other is

                      >                          maintained by the

                      University

                      > of Arizona which is bound by both

                      >                          State and Federal

                      privacy and

                      > confidentiality legislation.

                      >

                      >                          Family Tree DNA

                      accepts the

                      > responsibility to keep your specific

                      >                          data private, at the

                      same

                      > time, making enough general

                      >                          information public to

                      allow

                      > us to build a Surnames Database

                      >                          library to be used for

                      > genealogical purposes."

                      >

                      > Family Tree DNA Test Kit -

                      > http://www.familytreedna.com/kit.html

                      >

                      > Please let me know what you think...

                      > caoimhghin

                      >

 

 

 

                        From:

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                        Date:

                            Wed, 26 Feb 2003 12:08:09 EST

                      Subject:

                            Re: [Cryan et al.] The Irish Times letter

                         To:

                            caoimhghin@yahoo.com

 

 

 

 

 

                      Caoimhghin

 

                      Thank You!  I don't know if I am up to the

                      challenge of learning Irish out

                      here in the cultural desert of Calif. but I

                      applaud your efforts and hope to

                      meet you someday in Ireland at a big Croidheain

                      reunion.                

 

                                                                                         

                      Sincerely                     Charles          Crane

 

                      From: Caoimhghin O'Croidheain

                      [mailto:Caoimhghin.OCroidheain@dcu.ie]

                      Sent: 26 February 2003 17:08

                      To: lcryan@nmh.ie

                      Subject: letter

 

 

                      A Chara,

                      Further to the current series of letters on Irish

                      place names I would

                      like to suggest that the discussion be extended

                      to surnames.

                      Anglicised Gaelic names are the badge of our

                      former colonial status

                      which we wear without realising. The profusion of

                      variations on even one

                      surname (despite standardisation of spellings)

                      reveals a time when an

                      external administration neither knew nor cared

                      about the language of the

                      people they colonised. For example, my own

                      surname, Cryan, is one

                      variant of the Ó Croidheáin surname which

                      originated in the

                      Donegal/Sligo areas. In my family history

                      research I have discovered 5

                      phonetical variations (Cryan, Crean, Crehan,

                      Crane and Cregan) with 42

                      different spellings. Confusions also abound, as

                      some Anglicisations are

                      synonyms of other Gaelic names, e.g. Tom Crean,

                      the famous explorer was

                      an Ó Cuirín from Kerry.

                      It is time to lose our 'pet' names and question

                      the follies of former

                      times. Thus, by returning some sense to our

                      cultural heritage we will be

                      able to make a huge contribution to a modern,

                      culturally diverse Europe.

                      Then we could start to actually learn and use the

                      language and finally

                      complete the process of linguistic

                      decolonisation.

                      Caoimhghin Ó Croidheáin

                      

 

                        From:

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                         To:

                            "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>

                      Subject:

                            Re: [Cryan et al.] A Cryan/Crean/Crehan Y-DNA Project?

                        Date:

                            Mon, 3 Mar 2003 13:50:10 -0000

                     Hi Kevin,

                      I have recently been in contact with  The London

                      Hospital  re yourE-Mail as

                      i have someone in Keash who thinks that he may be

                      related. But  they said

                      that as i would be going back a few generations

                      this would not  be of any

                      value, at this time.

                      Patrick

 

 

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                        Date:

                            Mon, 10 Mar 2003 00:16:01 EST

                      Subject:

                            cryan roots

                         To:

                            caoimhghin@yahoo.com

                      hello, I just began searching my family roots.  My last name is McMahon and my grandmothers

                      maiden name was Mary E. Cryan she was married to Thomas F. McMahon. They both died

                      several years ago and I don't have any other information for her, other than she had two children,

                      Thomas J. McMahon (my dad) and Sue.  I sure she came over on the boat and that she was first

                      generation from Ireland. she then lived in Rockville Center on Long Island, New York. Are there

                      many Cryan names? Is it rooted from Ireland? Have you researched back far?  What websites

                      helped you in your search?  Any information would be helpful. thanks. Daisy McMahon

 

 

                        Date:

                            Tue, 18 Mar 2003 02:21:36 -0800 (PST)

                        From:

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                      Subject:

                            [Cryan et al.] Illinois Statewide Marriage Index, 17631900

                         To:

                            CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

 

 

 

 

 

                      Illinois Statewide Marriage Index, 1763–1900

                      http://www.cyberdriveillinois.com/Marriage/MarriageSearchServlet

                      Click here for information about how to obtain

                      copies

                      of original marriage records.

 

                       Groom

                                                            Bride

                                                                           

                                        Date

                                                                           

                                                    Vol./Page

                                                                           

                                                             License

                                                                           

                                                             No.

                                                                           

                                                                     

                      County

 

 

                      10 records are displayed.

                       The maximum number displayed is 2000. If a MORE

                      button appears below, click for additional

                      records.

 

                      CREAN, CHARLES (SEE CRANE)           HANNING,

                      CATHARINE                   05/10/1854   6/ 120    

                      806 MADISON            

                      CREAN, J W                           BUSHER,

                      ELLEN

                      ETTA                   04/19/1899    /254         

                      COLES              

                      CREAN, JAMES J                       CANAVAN,

                      MARY   

                                         04/16/1884    /     00080674

                      COOK 

                                  

                      CREAN, JOHN                          KELLY,

                      MARGARET 

                                         07/23/1873 083/     00010886

                      COOK 

                                  

                      CREAN, MORRIS                        EDGAR,

                      LIZZIE   

                                         01/01/1889    /     00135202

                      COOK 

                                  

                      CREAN, SMITH                         CALLY,

                      JULYAN   

                                         10/02/1831    /     00000231

                      ST.

                      CLAIR          

                      CREAN, THOMAS JAMES                  LAWLER, ETTA    

                                         11/03/1887 000/     00120419

                      COOK 

                                  

                      CREANE, JOHN M                       KELLY,

                      BRIDGET

                      (MISS)                10/16/1876 007/0024

                      00005650

                      MONTGOMERY         

                      CREANEY, JOHN M                      NESBITT,

                      JENNIE 

                                         04/25/1883    /     00070970

                      COOK 

                                   

                      CREANY, JAMES                        TRAYNOR,

                      DELLA  

                                         06/23/1894    /     00215958

                      COOK 

                                   

 

 

 

 

                      Illinois Statewide Marriage Index, 1763–1900

 

                      Click here for information about how to obtain

                      copies

                      of original marriage records.

 

                       Groom

                                                            Bride

                                                                           

                                        Date

                                                                           

                                                    Vol./Page

                                                                           

                                                             License

                                                                           

                                                             No.

                                                                           

                                                                     

                      County

 

 

                      4 records are displayed.

                       The maximum number displayed is 2000. If a MORE

                      button appears below, click for additional

                      records.

 

                      BIRD, WILLIAM ALFRED                 CRYAN, ANNIE    

                                         12/03/1891    /     00176622

                      COOK 

                                  

                      DELIHANTZ, JOHN T                    CRYAN,

                      HANNAH   

                                         11/05/1873 E  /     2292    

                      LA

                      SALLE           

                      FLANIGAN, MARTIN                     CRYAN, JANE  

                      N L

                      F                  00/00/0000 1  /19   240     

                      LA

                      SALLE           

                      MCGOVERN, JOSEPH                     CRYAN, MARY     

                                         09/15/1888 00O/     00131198

                      COOK 

                                  

 

 

                      MCNAMARA, STEPHAN                    CREAN, AGNES    

                                         02/02/1894    /     00213988

                      COOK 

                                  

                      ARMSTRONG, RICHARD THOMAS            CREAN, ANNIE    

                                         01/28/1884 OOG/     00079090

                      COOK 

                                  

                      CAIRD, JOHN                          CREAN,

                      FANNIE   

                                         01/16/1885    /     00088999

                      COOK 

                                  

                      DOLAN, THOMAS                        CREAN,

                      JENNIE   

                                         05/25/1886 00J/0487         

                      COLES

                                  

                      HOLBROOK, CHARLES JOHN               CREAN,

                      JOHANNA  

                                         01/10/1890    /     00148428

                      COOK 

                                  

                      LEWIS, DANIEL                        CREAN,

                      KATHARINA

                                         09/04/1882    /     00064757

                      COOK 

                                  

                      FOLEY, TIMOTHY                       CREAN,

                      KATHERINE

                                         01/31/1885    /     00089372

                      COOK 

                                  

                      HEINECKEN, JULIUS W                  CREAN,

                      MARGERET 

                                         05/31/1883    /     00072064

                      COOK 

                                  

                      HESS, WALLACE                        CREANER,

                      SARAH M

                                         02/07/1875 00B/0117 00003796

                      KANKAKEE           

                      SERVIS, CHARLES                      CREANEY,

                      LIZZIE J

                                         01/18/1883 OOE/     00068829

                      COOK 

                                   

                      ELDRIDGE, EDWARD V                   CREANEY,

                      MARGARET

                      A                  07/05/1900    /     00019297

                      WILL 

                                  

                      MAY, CLAUDE CHARLES                  CREANEY,

                      MARY   

                                         09/08/1891    /     00172132

                      COOK 

                                   

 

 

                      Illinois Statewide Marriage Index, 1763–1900

 

                      Click here for information about how to obtain

                      copies

                      of original marriage records.

 

                       Groom

                                                            Bride

                                                                           

                                        Date

                                                                            

                                                    Vol./Page

                                                                           

                                                             License

                                                                            

                                                             No.

                                                                           

                                                                     

                      County

 

 

                      4 records are displayed.

                       The maximum number displayed is 2000. If a MORE

                      button appears below, click for additional

                      records.

 

                      CONSIDINE, PATRICK                   CREHAN,

                      ANNIE   

                                         06/04/1891    /     00165199

                      COOK 

                                  

                      WOOD, THOMAS                         CREHAN,

                      DELIA   

                                         09/02/1888    /     00130506

                      COOK 

                                  

                      DONNELL, MICHAEL                     CREHAN,

                      ELLEN   

                                         02/26/1876 096/     00025571

                      COOK 

                                  

                      LONG, BENJAMIN F                     CREHAN, MARY

                      A  

                                         05/06/1880    /     00008033

                      WILL 

    

 

 

                        Date:

                            Tue, 01 Apr 2003 08:12:56 -0500

                        From:                            "Maureen McCourt Nantista" <mornan@optonline.net> | This is spam | Add to Address Book                      Subject:

                            [Cryan et al.] Cryan females married in Scotland

                         To:                            CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

                            The following is a list of Cryan females

                      married in Scotland in the years 1855 through 1927.

                      It was obtained from the General Register Office

                      for Scotland's fee-based website

                      www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk  The groom's surname appears first

                      followed by his given name and then the bride's

                      surname and given name. The information in the last

                      two columns is the registration district name and

                      number, and the record number. Images of the

                      actual marriage records, plus birth and death

                      records, are available at the site for a fee. 

                                  1 1927 AIRENS JOHN CRYAN MARGARET

                      BLYTHSWOOD GLASGOW 644/10 1430  

                                  2 1905 CAMPBELL WILLIAM SIMPSON CRYAN

                      ROSE ANN LEITH SOUTH 692/02 0335  

                                  3 1886 CHAPMAN HANS CRYAN MARGARET

                      PAISLEY 573/00 0146  

                                  4 1855 DAVIDSON JAMES CRYAN ELLEN

                      DUMBARTON BURGH 496/01 0056  

                                  5 1891 DOIG JOHN CRYAN CATHERINE

                      LEITH SOUTH 692/02 0309  

                                  6 1878 DRUMMOND JOHN CRYAN SUSAN ST

                      MARY DUNDEE 282/02 0099  

                                  7 1907 DUFFY THOMAS CRYAN ELIZABETH

                      MARYHILL GLASGOW 644/14 0071  

                                  8 1897 FEENEY THOMAS CRYAN CATHERINE

                      MARYHILL 622/01 0074  

                                  9 1861 FISHER JOHN CRYAN ANNE IRVINE

                      595/00 0049  

                                  10 1893 GRANT CHARLES CRYAN LIZZIE

                      LEITH SOUTH 692/02 0066  

                                  11 1881 GREEN DUGALD CRYAN MARY

                      PAISLEY 573/00 0308  

                                  12 1898 HAGAN HENRY CRYAN ELLEN

                      GREENOCK EAST 564/01 0104  

                                  13 1896 HENEGHAN ANTHONY CRYAN ALICE

                      MARYHILL 622/01 0017  

                                  14 1891 MCCAFFERTY CHARLES CRYAN

                      SARAH PAISLEY SU/D 573/00 0328  

                                  15 1856 MORAN JOHN CRYAN MARY

                      JEDBURGH BURGH 792/01 0024  

                                  16 1915 MORRISON THOMAS REYNOLDS

                      CRYAN ELSIE BARRHEAD & LEVERN 572/02 0056  

                                  17 1890 O'BRIEN PATRICK CRYAN MARY

                      MARYHILL 622/01 0025  

                                  18 1881 QUIN JOHN CRYAN MARY PAISLEY

                      573/00 0128  

                                  19 1866 REVIE JAMES CRYAN SARAH DALRY

                      587/00 0030  

                                  20 1919 SMITH WILLIAM PRESTSE CRYAN

                      BRIDGET DALKEITH 683/00 0035  

                                  21 1869 STEEL JOHN CRYAN MARY

                      JOHNSTONE RENFREW 559/03 0051  

                                  22 1912 STRITCH THOMAS CRYAN ROSEANN

                      LEITH SOUTH 692/02 0314

                           

                                  

                        From:

                            "janette" <yddraig@bellsouth.net> | This is spam | Add to Address Book

                         To:

                            caoimhghin@yahoo.com

                      Subject:

                            crane surname

                        Date:

                            Sun, 20 Apr 2003 18:08:43 -0400

                      hello,

                           i live in greenville south carolina in the united states and, i am a crain / crane descendant. my

                      line stops at about 1792. all i have is some unproven info stating my gggg grandfather came from

                      ireland with 7 siblings. the reason i am writing to is is to ask if you know of any dna research

                      being done on the male members of the surname crane / crain ( or any variant )

                                    janette ledbetter                          

 

 

                           Mon, 19 May 2003 15:51:04 +1000

                      From:

                          "Gil Maclean" <gilmaclean@urban.net.au> | This is spam | Add to Address Book

                        To:

                          caoimhghin@yahoo.com

                      Hello caoimhghin,

                        My grandfather was Henry Crean, who died in

                      1962 in Denton,

                        Manchester UK. His wife was Julia Morton, and

                      he had three children,

                        Monica (my mother) Harry, and Winefride. His

                      father was born in

                        Galway, Ireland. He (my grandfather) had

                      several siblings but my

                        knowledge is sketchy on them. Would there be

                      any connection to the

                        Creans you are referring to?

Regards,

                      Lucille Hughes               

 

 

                        From:

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                         To:

                            caoimhghin@yahoo.com

                      Subject:

                            Cryan name

                        Date:

                            Mon, 2 Jun 2003 00:07:00 +0100

 

                      Dear Kevin

                                             I enjoyed your article in the recent issue of Irish Roots.  My Gt/Gdmother was an Ellen Cryan who

                      married a James Davis (before 1865) and lived at Ballymote, Sligo.  I have details of Cryans

                      around that area if you are interested.  Ellen Cryan died in Carrigans in 1897.  James Davis at

                      some stage went to Scotland.

                      I look forward to hearing from you

                                             Regards                                             Bill Davis

Date:

                            Thu, 5 Jun 2003 03:02:05 -0700 (PDT)

                        From:

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                      Subject:

                            [Cryan et al.] Roscommon Herald articles

                         To:

                            CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

 

 

 

 

 

                      Dear all,

 

                      Just a note to say that there will be more

                      Roscommon

                      Herald articles on the way soon (my mother,

                      Veronica

                      Cryan, is very kindly finishing off the last few

                      for

                      me). I hope to get into the National Library

                      fairly

                      soon to close off the 1883-1888 gap. After that

                      it

                      will be more difficult to do 1859-1882 as these

                      films

                      are held in the Roscommon Library. I tried to get

                      them

                      to send me the reels one at a time to view in the

                      National Library but they decided against it. So

                      I

                      will make some time to go down and do them in

                      situ.

 

                      I had an article published in Irish Roots about

                      the

                      whole collective process of getting the articles

                      from

                      microfilm to the internet. For those of you who

                      might

                      be interested in reading the article but don't

                      subscribe to Irish Roots, I have reproduced the

                      article below.

 

                      Regards to all,

                      Caoimhghin

 

                      Irish Roots article

 

                      Local newspapers: the hidden archive

 

                      Caoimhghin Ó Croidheáin

 

                      Have you been researching so long that you are

                      beginning to run out of resources, archives and

                      even

                      ideas? I had been researching my family history

                      for

                      some years and was coming to a standstill. Like

                      many

                      researchers I was having difficulty finding

                      information on the members of my family (Cryan)

                      who

                      lived during the nineteenth century.

                      The Cryan surname is historically concentrated

                      around

                      the north Co. Roscommon / south Co. Sligo area.

                      My

                      great great grandfather John Cryan taught in

                      Croghan

                      National School near Boyle, Co. Roscommon. I knew

                      that

                      he started work there in 1888 and that he died in

                      1905

                      so I decided to systematically read all the

                      Roscommon

                      Heralds between those years to see if I could

                      glean

                      any information about him or his family. Such

                      work

                      would probably not be considered by someone

                      starting

                      out in his or her family history research but in

                      my

                      case I had exhausted many different archives and

                      now

                      had the time to start on a bigger project. As I

                      read

                      the papers on microfilm in the National Library I

                      noted all references to the surname, as I knew

                      such

                      information could become important at a later

                      date if

                      different Cryan families were linked up. This

                      research

                      has produced 125 articles to date (all of which

                      are

                      available on my Cryan family history website at

                      http://geocities.com/caoimhghin/familyhistory.html).

                      The whole process of bringing the articles from

                      microfilm to the Internet is somewhat convoluted

                      but

                      worth explaining in some detail for those who

                      might

                      consider doing such work on their own names. I

                      usually

                      spend around 2 hours at a time in the National

                      Library

                      in Dublin looking through the microfilmed

                      Roscommon

                      Heralds. It takes me that amount of time to go

                      through

                      6 months of the weekly newspaper. After taking

                      note of

                      all articles, obituaries, court cases,

                      advertisements,

                      drawings and photographs etc where the name Cryan

                      or

                      any variants (e.g. Crean and Crehan) are

                      mentioned, I

                      type up a list and post it to the Roscommon

                      library.

                      The references are then photocopied for me from

                      the

                      microfilm by the wonderful and helpful staff

                      there. I

                      then send the copies to volunteer typists from

                      the

                      Rootsweb.com Cryan mailing list who type the

                      articles

                      and email them back to me. This allows me to

                      check

                      them over and number them. I then put them on the

                      Cryan mailing list (which has about 100 members).

                      The

                      emails are then saved to a file that I eventually

                      put

                      in an archive on my own website to be made

                      available

                      to neophytes.

                      The articles range from the comic to the tragic.

                      For

                      example on 18 August 1889 in a report of the

                      Boyle

                      Petty Sessions the police charged Joseph Connolly

                      and

                      Batty Cryan of Breedogue, with "fighting on the

                      public

                      street on the fair day" in an article entitled A

                      Row

                      about "Poteen." This was Batty's version of the

                      story:

                      ""Well," he says, "you thief and you robber, are

                      you

                      going to pay me for the "poteen" whiskey you

                      stole

                      from me?" I never stole any "poteen" from him. He

                      said

                      he would take my life if I would not pay him for

                      the

                      "poteen" whiskey. He had a dreadful weapon of a

                      stick

                      in his hand. I struck him a nice little blow of a

                      stick just to keep him quiet (laughter)."

 

                      Similarly, serious events like a murder trial

                      were

                      reported with the same level of verisimilitude.

                      In an

                      article from 23 December, 1882 on the Connaught

                      Winter

                      Assizes entitled Charge Of Murder it was

                      reported:

 

                      "John Cryan, examined by Sergeant Robinson, said

                      - I

                      left the October fair of Boyle with James Cryan,

                      Thomas and Winifred Cryan. After we had gone a

                      short

                      distance out of the town we saw some men on the

                      road

                      before us. When we came near to them a man named

                      Toolan said he was about to be beaten on his

                      brother-in-law's account. Toolan and a man named

                      McGowan then had a squabble and the deceased came

                      up

                      just then. When he came up Thomas Kennedy struck

                      him

                      on the back of the head and knocked him down.

                      Kennedy

                      then said - "I gave him that, and long I watched

                      for

                      him". I did not see any blow struck but one, and

                      after

                      receiving that blow Hunt spoke a word. Winifred

                      Cryan

                      said to the prisoner "O Thomas, what is that you

                      have

                      done.""

 

                      In the end, Thomas Kennedy was found guilty of

                      manslaughter of Thomas Hunt and sentenced to five

                      years penal servitude. While on the subject of

                      death,

                      the committed genealogist could come across an

                      obituary of an ancestor with the following

                      information

                      at the end of the description of the funeral:

                      "The chief mourners were -

                      Mrs. M. Cryan (wife), P., J., M.J., B.T., and J.

                      Cryan

                      (sons), M., M.E., and A.E. Cryan (daughters), Mr.

                      P.

                      Cryan, Newtownforbes, and Mr. B. Cryan,

                      Ballinamore

                      (brothers); Mr. P. Kerins, Ballymote (uncle); Mr.

                      J.

                      Dennedy (nephew); M. Dennedy, Dublin (niece); J.

                      Kerins, J. Davey, A. Flynn, J. Benson, J.

                      Flanagan, P.

                      Davey, A. Walsh, P. Cosgrove, B.Flynn (cousins).

                      Rev.

                      Canon Loftus officiated at the grave. - R.I.P."

                      [from October 18 1902, Death And Funeral Of Mr.

                      Michael Cryan, Ballymote (Co. Sligo)]. In one

                      fell

                      swoop we have sons, daughters, uncles, nieces,

                      nephews, cousins and a grand collection of

                      townlands

                      and new extended family names to research.

 

                      On a lighter note, what was your ancestor like

                      at,

                      say, football? Sports hyperbole was no different

                      in

                      the 'noughties' of the twentieth century. The

                      following is from the edition of 23 September

                      1901:

 

                      "Football Boyle v Carrick-On-Shannon

                      [...] The Carrick forwards made some good rushes,

                      but

                      the backs, Cryan and Cregg, seemed impenetrable.

                      The

                      latter appeared a bit off colour during the first

                      quarter of an hour, but pulled up for it well

                      subsequently, as he along with Cryan played a

                      most

                      determined and scientific game."

 

                      Or, maybe your ancestor played an important part

                      in a

                      major local event and you never heard through the

                      family grapevine? For example, on the 14 December

                      1901

                      a "Terrific Blaze in Boyle" was reported:

 

                      "Big Premises Gutted.

                      One of the most disastrous conflagrations ever

                      witnessed in Boyle took place at an early hour on

                      last

                      Sunday morning, when the extensive business

                      establishment of Mr. W. J. Sloan, one of the

                      leading

                      merchants in these parts, was completely gutted

                      and

                      destroyed. […] The following, in addition to

                      those

                      mentioned above, assisted at the work of

                      quenching the

                      fire - Sergeant Hadlock, Corporal Cryan, Privates

                      Cryan […]."

 

                      In fact, in this case, the event had not yet

                      reached

                      into the family mythology of Maureen McCourt

                      Nantista

                      of Huntington, NY who was delighted to read about

                      her

                      great-grandfather, Corporal Michael Cryan, in the

                      above and other Roscommon Herald articles.

 

                      While marriage notices were not so common then,

                      when

                      they were inserted they contained plenty of

                      genealogical information. One such notice was

                      published on 13 Sep1902 as follows:

 

                      "Boyle Marriages

                      Cryan and Devine - On September 2nd at St Francis

                      Xavier's church, Gardiner St, Dublin, with

                      Nuptial

                      Mass, Mr. John Cryan, merchant of Bridge St,

                      Boyle was

                      married to Miss Eleanor, Mary (May) Devine,

                      second

                      eldest daughter of Mr. Fitzmaurice Devine,

                      merchant,

                      Ballyfarnon, Co Roscommon. The marriage ceremony

                      was

                      performed by Rev George J Coyle PP, Highwood,

                      assisted

                      by Very Rev Canon B R Coyne PP VF, Boyle, and the

                      Very

                      Rev Fr Conmee SJ."

 

                      Politics also played an important part in the

                      lives of

                      the people at that time. The controversy

                      surrounding

                      Charles Stewart Parnell and his affair with Kitty

                      O'Shea had local ripples. At a public meeting a

                      row

                      broke out which became the subject of a Crimes

                      Act

                      Court held at Carrick-on-Shannon and reported on

                      11

                      April 1891. According to Constable Irwin, Robert

                      Cryan, a member of the County Council, was waving

                      his

                      hat and cheering for Parnell while Canon Hoare

                      was

                      trying to speak. The mention of Kitty's name was

                      too

                      much for some:

 

                      "When Canon Hoare was speaking, some one on the

                      platform said "Kitty O'Shea." Paddy McManus

                      shouted "

                      Not another word" and then in the din of the

                      confusion

                      set up again. He saw McDermott, Cryan, and the

                      McManus's at the breaking up of the platform, and

                      their conduct was bad. The priests then held the

                      meeting in the chapel-yard, and the Drumshambo

                      people

                      brought down Parnell's banner, and placed it

                      before

                      the chapel door and commenced groaning, shouting

                      and

                      whistling."

 

                      Robert Cryan was punished for his activism. A

                      vote for

                      his expulsion from the County Council "was

                      seconded

                      'una voce' by eleven Nationalists and warmly

                      endorsed

                      by a ringing cheer from hundreds outside."

 

                      Out of the 125 articles posted on the mailing

                      list (so

                      far) only 4 articles referred to my family

                      directly.

                      However, their significance made the long hours

                      worthwhile. Both John Cryan, my great great

                      grandfather, and his daughter Mary J. Cryan were

                      members of the Boyle Teachers' Association which

                      had

                      regular meetings reported by The Roscommon

                      Herald. One

                      report of 24 October, 1896 noted John Cryan's

                      retirement and another of 8 February, 1902 noted

                      the

                      death of one of his sons. The most significant of

                      all

                      was the discovery of a long obituary article

                      about

                      Mary J. Cryan published on 22 March, 1902 which

                      reported that "her remains were interred in the

                      family

                      sepulchre at Eastersnow" cemetery. I had made

                      many

                      disappointing field trips over the years to the

                      cemeteries around Croghan so you can imagine my

                      delight with this discovery. The obituary also

                      mentioned cousins with the names of Lowe and

                      Eardley,

                      which was also new information to me.

 

                      The significance of old local newspapers for

                      genealogical research lies not just in their

                      range of

                      local stories and events, e.g. obituaries and

                      court

                      cases, but also in the style of reporting which

                      would

                      not be entertained in local papers today. Court

                      cases

                      were reported verbatim so one could have the

                      actual

                      words of an ancestor in your collection and

                      almost all

                      the names of everyone who attended a meeting,

                      funeral

                      or public gathering were mentioned. You didn't

                      have to

                      do much for your 15 minutes of fame in those

                      days.

                      Indeed, the odd report on a political gathering

                      would

                      provide a good alternative to a local census.

 

                      Similarly, drawings of the local people appeared

                      on

                      the front of most issues from the early 1880s to

                      the

                      1900s. I have collected 17 drawings of Cryans and

                      scanned them to my website. Photographs were rare

                      enough but I have found a few of the local Cryans

                      (who

                      can also be seen at

                      http://geocities.com/caoimhghin/familyhistory.html).

                      The significance of such photographs and drawings

                      lies

                      in the possibility that they may be the only ones

                      in

                      existence of these people. A nice surprise if one

                      turns out to be your great great grandfather!

                      There

                      were also advertisements for Cryan's pub in

                      Boyle, a

                      pub still carrying that name in the centre of the

                      town.

 

                      Ultimately, it would be ideal if the articles

                      could be

                      published in book form illustrated with the ads,

                      drawings and photographs. Such a book, I believe

                      would

                      be unique in Irish genealogical research. While

                      the

                      market may appear to be small it would have

                      universal

                      appeal in that it would demonstrate the variety

                      and

                      style of material to be found in Irish local

                      newspapers. The idea could be developed by

                      setting up

                      projects whereby the papers could be gleaned for

                      references to all names and illustrations which

                      would

                      then be put on a website. The current local

                      newspaper

                      titles could be encouraged to invest in such work

                      on

                      their historical antecedents as a way of

                      publicising

                      their newspapers and encouraging others to see

                      them as

                      "newspapers of record". At least by then, we will

                      have

                      gone some way in making up for the disastrous

                      losses

                      of genealogical information which covered the

                      nineteenth century.

 

 

               

                        From:

                            "Derrick Caddy" <derrickcaddy@ntlworld.com> | This is spam | Add to Address Book                        Date:                            Sun, 8 Jun 2003 17:27:16 +0100

                      Subject:                            [Cryan et al.] Stephen Crean from Bandon

                         To:                            CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

                      Hi ,I'm trying to find information about Stephen

                      Crean from Bandon,which I now know is near Cork .

                      Although we know he married Mary Ann Cowgrave(or

                      possibly Cosgrave) from Wexford in 1850's ,we

                      don't know where . They brought their children up in

                      Newport Mon ,but it would be interesting to know

                      if anyone has connections to Mary Ann or Stephen

                      before they reached Newport . Thank you Gill

                      Caddy  

 

 

                        From:                            "Derrick Caddy" <derrickcaddy@ntlworld.com> | This is spam | Add to Address Book                        Date:                            Mon, 9 Jun 2003 08:37:36 +0100

                      Subject:                            [Cryan et al.] Stephen Crean from Bandon

                         To:                            CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

                      Hi I'm posting this again because a few people

                      have asked where Newport and

                      Bandon near Cork are.

                      I'm interested in information on Stephen Crean

                      from Bandon . Bandon is a

                      little to the South west of Cork in Ireland .

                      Born in 1830's married to Mary Ann Cowgrave from

                      Wexford Ireland  in the

                      1850's . We don't know whether the marriage was

                      in Ireland,England or Wales

                      .

                      They ended up in Newport Monmouthshire South

                      Wales  U.K. They had 6 children

                      ,descendants of the younger children are well

                      scattered and mostly

                      accountable .Although Annie born 1898 daughter of

                      James and Margaret Crean

                      and her younger brother Joseph Stephen have been

                      impossible to find . All

                      children born in Newport and their sister Frances

                      was brought up in Newport

                      by her aunt .  Gill Caddy

 

                        Date:                            Mon, 9 Jun 2003 10:04:21 -0400

                        From:                            "Farrell, Peter" <Peter_Farrell@troweprice.com> | This is spam | Add to Address Book                      Subject:                            [Cryan et al.] Niland inheritance of Cryan Drumfin Farm.                         To:                            CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

 

                      Was in Ireland the past few weeks  and spent some

                      time at the National                      Library.  One of the riddles I am working on is

                      how my GG-GF, Peter

                      Niland took over a farm from Thomas Cryan in

                      Drumfin, Sligo.   Peter was

                      married to Thomas' daughter Bridget, so we had

                      thought Thomas had simply

                      given them the farm, since they were family. 

                      Interestingly enough this                      appears to be incorrect. 

                      Griffins valuation at the time, shows that Peter

                      Niland already rented

                      the farm from local landlord Robert Orme in 1858. 

                      This property was

                      divided into two parcels, one  9.5 acres the

                      other 7 acres and appraised

                      at 10 pounds.

                      Then in the Church records I found Peter Niland

                      married Bridget Cryan on                      July 15, 1861.

                      So he had acquired the property before  he

                      married into the Cryan

                      family.

                      My great Aunts  Christina (87)  and Agnes are

                      convinced that Peter came                      from Aghamore.

 

                      Next time I will go to National Archives and see

                      if I can get more notes                    on Thomas Cryan and his family.

 

From: "Bob Cunning" <bcunning@iprimus.com.au> | This is spam | Add to Address Book Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 00:28:26 +1000

 Subject: [Cryan et al.] Catherine Cryan

 To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

 

 Hello from Australia. I am trying to find

 relatives of Catherine who came to Australia in 1854. I

 have been hampered because on various documents,

 her name is shown as CREON/CRANE/CRYAN and even

 CRYING.

 Her Death Cert. says that she was born in Mason

 County, Maysville, Kentucky, but her Marriage

 Cert. I received today shows her birth place as

 Roscommon Co.

 

 Any help here would be greatly appreciated.

 Cheers, Bob in Melbourne.

 

 

 From: "kathy" <kgk2450@adelphia.net> | This is spam | Add to Address Book To: caoimhghin@yahoo.com

 Subject: Bridget Cryan

 Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 13:31:22 -0400

 My great great Grandmother, Bridget Cryan, according to the family Bible, was born in

 Roscommon, County Boyle, in 1840. Per her wedding certificate, from Northwich, England, in

 1859, her father was John Cryan (deceased at the time). Also, per the Bible, she had a relative,

 perhaps an uncle, who was a great Irish priest poet.

 Bridget married Michael Gallagher , and had a son, Felix, in Northwich, in 1860. They

 emigrated to the US around 1862 or 1863 and settled in Poughkeepsie, NY, where Bridget died in

 1890.

 Does any of this sound familiar with your research?

 Kathleen Gallagher Kilburn

 

 

 Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 02:48:59 -0400 (Eastern Standard Time)

 From: "Maureen McCourt Nantista" <mornan@optonline.net> | This is spam | Add to Address Book Subject:

 Cryan Deaths in England To: caoimhghin@yahoo.com

 

 Hi Caoimhghin,

 From the website Family Research Link http://www.1837online.com I've paid for and downloaded all the pages with Cryan entries in the death indexes for the years 1920 through the first quarter of 1959. I'm

 attaching one of the pages here, but if you haven't used their database yet, you'll have to go to the site

 and download the viewer in order to open the file.

 

 While there, please go to the 'about us' page and scroll down to the 'terms and conditions' link. Of

 particular interest is 4.1 - 4.3. I'm not able to personally transcribe all the data at this time so my question

 to you is - do you see any way we might make use of this information for the benefit of the Cryan list

 members without violating any of the restrictions.

 

 Hope you're enjoying the summer!

 

 Regards,

 Maureen Nantista

 Huntington, NY

 

 

 

 From: Cay2545@aol.com | This is spam | Add to Address Book

 Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 13:52:40 EDT

 Subject: thanks To: caoimhghin@yahoo.com, fuller_edna@yahoo.com

 Edna,

 I found this article by Kevin on the message board for Cryan family. It's his article from the Irish magazine. I didn't know if you'd seen it or not. If you can't click on the heart at the bottom of the note, then go to http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/CRYAN You should be able to find his article. Kevin, Once again, you make life interesting! I have just had time to re-group after a move from one end of Texas to the other. I found your note about your article on the family research. The article is wonderful! You make the research interesting and humorous and tragic all at one time. Thank you again for your diligence and enthusiasum about your research. By the way, Edna Fuller and

 Jill Devito have both been discovered as cousins of mine. We share the same line from Michael

 Cryan and Bridget Foley. Michael's parents were James Cryan and Mary Phillips, a line which

 seems to stop there for the researchers at this time. They were all baptized, married, most

 probably at the church in Ballaghadereen, Roscommon. They owned land in a small village group

 called Groof, from Paul Cryan's records (relative of Jill's) So the message board has connected

 cousins, Edna, Jill and Dottie, who now e-mail regularly and share information and pixs. Thank

 you again for all of your help! Dottie Cryan Chegwidden RootsWeb: CRYAN-L [Cryan et al.]

 Roscommon Herald articles

 

 

 From: Cay2545@aol.com | This is spam | Add to Address Book

 Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 14:09:55 EDT

 Subject: question about Cryan family To:

 caoimhghin@yahoo.com

 Kevin,

 As I understand it, there are a great number of Irish people from the early immigration times buried in St. Patrick's cemetery in the Lowell, MA. area. Do you know of any materials, information sites, etc. that might include the burial information for family. I was told that was where many of my ggg grandparents were buried . Dottie Cryan Chegwidden

 Did you ever find a connection with the Sligo/Roscommon Cryan famlies?

 

 

 

 Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 07:03:59 -0700 (PDT)

 From: "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> | This is spam | Add to Address Book Subject: [Cryan et al.] Roscommon Herald Articles No 125 To:

 CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com Roscommon Herald Articles No 125

 

 

 November 17 1883

 A charge of intimidation entered by Mrs Cryan of

 Ballinultha against Sarah Kennedy was marked

 withdrawn

 as the parties were relatives and had settled the

 matter.

 

 

 Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 07:05:01 -0700 (PDT)

 From: "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> | This is spam | Add to Address Book Subject: [Cryan et al.] Roscommon Herald Articles No 126

 To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

 Roscommon Herald Articles No 126

 

 March 8 1884

 Sudden death

 On Wednesday morning a plasterer named Michael

 Cryan

 residing at Sheegora, near Boyle, who had been in

 his

 usual good health on the previous day, was found

 dead

 in his bed.

 

 

 

 

bcunning" <bcunning@iprimus.com.au> | This is spam | Add to Address Book

 Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 00:12:07 +1000

 Subject: [Cryan et al.] Fw: Catherine Cryan

 To:

 CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

 Hello from Australia. I am trying to find

 relatives of Catherine who came to Australia in 1854. I

 have been hampered because on various documents,

 her name is shown as CREON/CRANE/CRYAN and even

 CRYING.

 

 Her Death Cert. says that she was born in Mason

 County, Maysville, Kentucky, but her Marriage

 Cert. I received today shows her birth place as

 Roscommon Co.

 

 Any help here would be greatly appreciated.

 Cheers, Bob in Melbourne.

 

 

 Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2003 14:09:13 -0700 (PDT)

 From: "Kathleen" <kgrone@yahoo.com> | This is spam | Add to Address Book

 Subject: [Cryan et al.] New List Members - researching Rufus Joseph Creen

 To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

 

 Greetings,

 My names is Kathleen O'Donnell Grone. I live in

 South Dakota (I recently moved here). I have just

 joined the Cryan list. From what I understand you

 also research the spelling variant of Creen (and

 others).

 I am researching CREEN's from Ireland.

 

 This is what I have thus far.

 

 Descendants of Creen (my line is in red)

 

 1 CREEN b: in Ireland

 ... 2 Unk CREEN b: in Ireland d: in Ireland

 ....... +Anna "ANNIE" b: June 18, 1859 d: 1920

 in Manhatten, New York

 ......... 3 Isabella CREEN b: February 1882

 ......... 3 Rufus Joseph CREEN, Sr. b: May 1885

 in Ireland d: Abt. 1940 in New York

 ............. +Charlotte Louisa "Lottie" KERNER

 b: November 27, 1886 in Manhatten, New York, New

 York d: March 13, 1959 in Brooklyn, Kings County,

 New York m: Abt. 1900 in New York

 ............... 4 Joseph CREEN

 ............... 4 Isabell M. CREEN b: October

 5, 1905 in Brooklyn, New York d: October 1, 1938

 in Catskills, New York

 ................... +Lester Aloyisius O'DONNELL

 b: August 30, 1906 in Brooklyn, New York d: March

 2, 1992 in Yonkers, New York m: 1923 in Brooklyn,

 New York

 ............... 4 Rufus Joseph CREEN, Jr. b:

 December 15, 1908 in New York d: January 1985 in

 Riverhead, Suffolk County, New York

 ................... +Eleanor A. b: October 2,

 1910 d: September 24, 1994 in Riverhead, Suffolk

 County, New York

 ............... 4 Jessica CREEN b: Abt. 1911

 ......... 3 Harry CREEN

 ............. +Margurite GROSS

 ............... 4 William Clarence CREEN b:

 April 11, 1920

 ... 2 John A. CREEN

 ......... 3 Harry CREEN

 ............... 4 Roy CREEN d: in Suffolk Co.,

 NY (Long Island?)

 ............... 4 Howard CREEN d: in Bronx,

 New York

 ............... 4 William CLARENCE d: in

 Saugerties, Ulster Co., New York

 ................... +Georgianna DYKSHOORN

 

 The Creen's have been difficult to research.

 Recently I have found a bit more information due to

 the cooperative help of some wonderful relatives.

 

 One thing that has made it difficult to research

 is that Rufus Creen and Charlotte Kerner divorced

 and Rufus wasn't heard from much thereafter.

 Charlotte remarried James J. O'Donnell (we had a

 father and son marry a mother and daughter).

 

 1930 census, .Brooklyn, Kings County, ED 925,

 page 15A:

 Ruffus Creen, age 43, single, occupation -

 elevator operator, Ruffus was roomer in household of

 Oliver Orlando (note-according to this census,

 Rufus was born in NY, father born in Ireland, mother

 born in Ireland)

 

 An aunt sent the following-

 New York censuses for 1900 and 1910. "I did

 however find Annie Creen, widow, mother of Isabella

 and Rufus Joseph Creen in the 1900 census. This

 Rufus Joseph Creen was born in May 1885 in NY and

 was Charlotte Kerner's first husband and

 father of our Isabelle Creen, wife of Lester. I

 can send you a copy of that

 page if you would like to have it..."

 

 My Grandmother Isabell M. Creen O'Donnell

 attended Our Lady of Perpetual Health parochial school

 in Flatbush, New York. In May of 1922 she received

 her High School diploma. Isabell was 5'10" tall,

 very beautiful. She had dark auburn hair and

 freakles. The family spent a lot of time in the

 Catskills.

 

 Isabell died at the age of 33 while pregnant with

 her 7th child due to an infection. The child died

 also. The family was living in Queens at the

 time at 112-33 Colfax Street. She died a few days

 before her birthday. She was buried on her

 birthday October 5, 1938. She was buried in Holy Cross

 Cemetary in Brooklyn, New York.

 __________________________________________________

 I found the following information a few years

 back in hopes that it would lead me somewhere - it

 hasn't yet but you never know! I will share it.

 

 Pat R. kindly explained to me (and far better

 than I ever could, even if I had known) what the

 1796 Spinning Wheel Index of Names is, and I quote:

 

 "As I understand it, the Linen manufacturers, in

 order to encourage the increased planting of flax

 throughout the country, promised a spinning wheel

 to each farmer who would turn over an acre of

 land to flax. The advantage that this list offers

 is the naming of tenants rather than just land

 owners at a time that is not covered by other

 records.

 

 "The All Ireland Heritage Series Edition of the

 Alphabetical Index to the Names contained in the

 Premium Entitlement lists of the Trustees of the

 Linen and Hempen Manufacturers of Ireland/ AKA the

 1796 Spinning Wheel List." The printed record

 covers approved claims for 89,506 spinning wheels

 (or equivalent units). Since the average award per

 person was less than two wheels, the list

 includes at least 50,000 individuals. Ulster excelled

 with 57,811 wheels reported (64%)" Dublin and

 Wicklow had no listings."

 Creen, John: Down; Kilclief

 Creen, John: Down; Maghera

 Creen, John: Roscommon; Kilumad

 Creen, Michael: Down; Ballyculter

 

 Thank you and have a great week! God Bless,

 Kathleen

 

 

 "Patrick Cryans" <pat@pcryans.fsnet.co.uk> | Add to Address Book

 To: "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>

 Subject: R I C RECORDS

 Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 18:25:01 +0100

 

 

 Hi Caoimhghin,

 Hope you are well and ok. I am aat present researching the R I C records.

 I have managed to obtain a very good book by James Herily from the British Library but can you give me any info that you might have researched.

 There were about 20 Cryans in the R I C in various locations at least 2 came from Keash Sligo . Patrick Cryan

 Joseph Cryan

 Both brothers and relations of the J P Big John Cryan of Carrowcrory Keash

 

 Patrick Francis Cryans

 

 

 Sat, 18 Oct 2003 12:36:44 -0700 (PDT)

 From: "Sheila Anderson-Wray" <pipersdaughter@yahoo.com> | Add to Address Book Subject: Joseph Peter Crean 1923 - 2000

 To: caoimhghin@yahoo.com

 

 I am hoping you are the answer to our prayers. I have a friend with the surname Crean - she is the daughter

 of the late gentleman mentioned above. He walked out of the family when she was a small child in the mid to

 late 50's. In 1954 - the year my friend was born, he published - privately we believe, a small volume of poems

 entitled 'Bones and Ashes' and he wrote is under the name of Peter Crean.

 

 She was born and raised in Italy and her father originally came from County Cork, the Mallow/Carrokeale

 area.

 

 She has just discovered that he died in August 2000 in the WC1 area of London - ironically the very borough

 she had settled in in the early 1990's.

 

 If you know any other family of my friends father I would be eternally grateful, all of her friends want to find a

 living Crean relative for her and surprise her for her 50th birthday which is in January 2004. Cheers Sheila M Anderson-Wray

 

 

 Tue, 21 Oct 2003 02:05:41 -0700 (PDT)

 From: "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> | Add to Address Book Subject: [Cryan et al.] Joseph Peter Crean 1923 - 2000

 To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

 

 Sat, 18 Oct 2003 12:36:44 -0700 (PDT)

 From:"Sheila Anderson-Wray"

 <pipersdaughter@yahoo.com>

 

 

 I am hoping you are the

 answer

 to our prayers. I have a friend with the surname

 Crean

 - she is the daughter of the late gentleman

 mentioned

 above. He walked out of the family when she was a

 small child in the mid to late 50's. In 1954 -

 the

 year my friend was born, he published - privately

 we

 believe, a small volume of poems entitled 'Bones

 and

 Ashes' and he wrote is under the name of Peter

 Crean.

 

 She was born and raised in

 Italy

 and her father originally came from County Cork,

 the

 Mallow/Carrokeale area.

 

 She has just discovered

 that he

 died in August 2000 in the WC1 area of London -

 ironically the very borough she had settled in in

 the

 early 1990's.

 

 If you know any other

 family of

 my friends father I would be eternally grateful,

 all

 of her friends want to find a living Crean

 relative

 for her and surprise her for her 50th birthday

 which

 is in January 2004.

 

 Cheers

 

 Sheila M Anderson-Wray

 

 

 From: "Bill and Anita Crane" <wcrane2@san.rr.com> | Add to Address Book To: "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>

 Subject: Re: [Cryan et al.] Joseph Peter Crean 1923 - 2000

 Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 08:09:10 -0700

 

 Re: Joseph Peter Crean

 My father was born John Patrick O'Crean in 1903

 in Philadelphia. He was the

 son of very recent Irish emigrants and his father

 was from Cork. This could

 be a relative. Check with the family members in

 Philadelphia with the

 surname of Crane or Crean or O'Crean. Several of

 my Philadelphia relatives

 kept in contact with relatives in Ireland.

 

 Bill Crane

 San Diego, California

 

 

 

 > >

 > "jcrain" <jcrain@primus.com.au> | Add to Address Book

 To:

 "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>

 Subject:

 RE: [Cryan et al.] Joseph Peter Crean 1923 - 2000

 Date:

 Sun, 26 Oct 2003 20:34:30 +1100

 Sorry I do not have a Joseph Peter Crean in my

 line. My Crean relatives came

 from County Sligo.

 Sorry I Cant help but wish you luck in your

 search. Regards, Jim Crain

 

 Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 17:56:22 +0000 (GMT)

 From: "denise mcdonald" <denisejanemcdonald@yahoo.co.uk> | Add to Address Book Subject: Cryan

 To: caoimhghin@yahoo.com

 Hi there,

 My name is Denise McDonald and my mothers maiden name is Cryans.

 I dont know much about my families history, but I do know that somewhere along the lines there was an 's'

 added to Cryan and I really want to track my family tree.

 Please contact me and I can let you know names etc

 Regards

 Denise

 

Patrick Cryans" <pat@pcryans.fsnet.co.uk> | Add to Address Book

 To: "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>

 Subject: Re: Fw: R I C INDEX RECORDS OF CRYAN,S

 Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 20:38:45 -0000

 

 Caoimhghin,

 Just thought i would let you know that

 Patrick and Joseph Cryan were from Keash

 Townland Tully Cousin to the big John Cryan J P.

 Joseph had a shop in

 Ballymote after retiring.

 Patrick

 

 

 Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 02:08:14 -0800 (PST)

 From: "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> | Add to Address Book Subject: [Cryan et al.] CRYANS

 To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

 

 

 

 Sun, 26 Oct 2003 17:56:22 From:"denise mcdonald"

 <denisejanemcdonald@yahoo.co.uk>

 

 Hi all Can anyone help Denise?

 caoimhghin

 

 

 Hi there, My name is Denise McDonald and my

 mothers maiden name is Cryans. I dont know much about my

 families history, but I do know that somewhere

 along

 the lines there was an 's' added to Cryan and I

 really

 want to track my family tree.

 Please contact me and I can

 let you know names etc

 Regards

 Denise

 

 __________________________________

 

 From: "Patrick Cryans" <pat@pcryans.fsnet.co.uk> | Add to Address Book To: "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>

 Subject: Re: Fw: R I C INDEX RECORDS OF CRYAN,S

 Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 20:52:33 -0000

 Caoimhghin,

 I have contacted Denise today.

 re John Cryan J P Idont know if he was related i

 just have a lot of info on

 that family even a photo of Patrick Cryan in his

 R I C uniform.

 

RE: [Cryan et al.] CRYANS Date:

 Wed, 29 Oct 2003 09:48:55 -0500

 From: "Farrell, Peter" <Peter_Farrell@troweprice.com> | Add to Address Book To:

 CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

 Hi Denise,

 I'm not familiar with Cryan(s), but most of us

 love this stuff. Can you

 tell us what you do know? Perhaps give us the

 earliest known Cryans

 family members name, with date/place of birth.

 Do you know any of their

 siblings names? We can work back, or at least

 point you to the proper

 resources.

 

 Best of Luck, Patrick

 

 

 

 From: "bcunning" <bcunning@iprimus.com.au> | Add to Address Book

 Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 21:47:19 +1100

 Subject: [Cryan et al.] Fw: CREON or CRYAN

 To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

 Hello from Melbourne.I have been searching for

 many years and now am asking your help.

 

 My relative is shown as Catherine CRYAN, but on

 her marriage Cert. it is CREON. Father Paul, a

 farmer. Mother Winifred (nee Lonsey), place of

 birth Roscommon. DOB circa 1838

 

 It is said that the family migrated to USA when

 Catherine was 'little'. This may be true as her

 death Cert shows birthplace as Maysville Kentucky.

 A Grand Aunt always said that Catherine was

 Irish. Catherine married Charles WELCH in Melbourne in

 1855.

 

 I do hope someone can assist me. Cheers, Bob.

 

 Thu, 30 Oct 2003 08:15:32 -0800 (PST)

 From: "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> | Add to Address Book Subject: [Cryan et al.] IRISH ARGENTINES TO BE IRISH NATIONALS (Cryan) To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

 

 http://www.irlandeses.com.ar/petition/petition.htm

 

 The petition with almost 2.000 signatures has

 been presented to the Irish Minister for Justice,

 Equality and Legal Reform, Mr. John O'Donoghue, T.D., who

 has

 acknowledged receipt of the same but has not yet

 ruled formally on the issue. As soon as we know his

 decision,

 we will let you know.

 

 MANY THANKS, GURA MÍLE MAITH AGAIBH,

 FOR YOUR CONTINUED SUPPORT

 

 PETITION

 IRISH ARGENTINES TO BE IRISH NATIONALS

 

 Petition Recipient

 

 Minister for Justice, Equality and Law Reform

 Mr. John O'Donoghue, T.D.

 

 The Petition

 

 We, the undersigned, citizens of

 the Argentine Republic and their supporters, draw

 the

 attention of the Government of Ireland to the

 following issue:

 

 Whereas Irish men and women

 emigrated

 from Ireland to the River Plate (currently,

 Argentina

 and Uruguay), particularly during the nineteenth

 century at a time when economic and social

 conditions

 in Ireland encouraged emigration and Argentina

 offered

 opportunities for a better life,

 

 Whereas the economic and social

 situation in Argentina does not allow the

 descendants

 of those emigrants and their families to wholly

 fulfil

 the dreams of their forefathers regarding the

 access

 to basic levels of security, health and

 education,

 

 Whereas members of the

 Irish-Argentine

 community, most of whom are great-grand children

 of

 Irish emigrants, would like to have the

 opportunity to

 live and work in Ireland, just as Argentina

 offered

 the same opportunities to Irish people in the

 past,

 

 Whereas under the terms and

 provisions

 of the Irish Nationality and Citizenship Acts of

 1956

 and 1986, those members of the Irish-Argentine

 community could not obtain the Irish citizenship

 and

 could not in this way live legally in Ireland,

 

 Therefore, your petitioners request

 that

 the Minister of Justice, Equality and Law Reform

 allow

 Argentine-born great-grand children of Irish

 nationals

 to become Irish nationals themselves or in the

 alternative to be able to seek and obtain

 employment

 in Ireland as if they were Irish nationals.

 

 Yours sincerely

 Patricia Hynes O'Connor, Edmundo

 Murray, Jorge Ricardo Fox

 

 

 Among others -

 Claudia Cryan, Eduardo Cryan,Patricia Mayra

 Cryan, Silvia Cryan

 

 

 From: "Michael Artes" <Michael.Artes@bmw.co.uk> | Add to Address Book To: "'jonathan_creaser@compuserve.com'" <jonathan_creaser@compuserve.com>

 CC: "'caoimhghin@yahoo.com'" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>

 Subject: Castlecawley

 Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 09:19:11 -0000

 Just saw your note on the interenet about

 Castlecawley, Achonry. Larry Cryan

 and Michael Cryan

 My in-laws come from round there, I could check

 out if they no anything

 about the Cryan Family

 

 Regards Mike A

 

 Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 13:52:15 +0000

 Subject: Cryan family of Shroove/Falleens in 1911 census?

 From: "Pat Hunt" <pathunt1@indigo.ie> | Add to Address Book

 To: "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>

 Caoimhghin, a chara,

 

 Pat Hunt here. You might be able to help me ­ and at short

 notice ­ and then again you

 might not. Or one of your diligent friends on the

 Internet might be able to

 help.

 

 I have decided to publish an article about

 Master Thomas Cryan

 (1853­1905) of College in the Bog (Townabrack NS)

 fame in this year's

 Ballaghaderreen Echoes, which goes to print at

 the end of this week.

 

 I have conflicting stories about his progeny.

 I traced two of his sons ­

 William and Thomas (aka Patrick) to Clongowes

 Wood College, and I find a

 third called Robert (Bertie) at home in Falleens

 (or Fauleens, or Shroove or

 Mullaghatee) in the 1901 census. Master Cryan

 died in 1905, but there is no

 mention of William in the obituary notice.

 Confused? Well you can imagine my

 moideration (coined that word just now).

 

 What I urgently need to know is if Mary Cryan

 (wife of late Tom, and

 principal of Townabrack girls' NS) is still in

 the Fauleens/Shroove/

 Mullaghatee area in the 1911 census. Townlands

 are interchangable; which one

 was used depends on the humour or local knowledge

 of the census taker.

 

 Thank you, Pat Hunt

 

 

 Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 16:40:49 +0000

 From: "Pat Hunt" <pathunt1@indigo.ie> | Add to Address Book

 Subject: [Cryan et al.] Help really needed

 To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.co

Eve,

 

 I am writing an article for the

 Ballaghaderreen Echoes 2003 magazine on

 the subject of Thomas Cryan NT (1853-1905) and

 his school, Townabrack NS,

 much better known as The College in the Bog.

 

 I have an apparently intractable problem.

 Tradition has it that Cryan

 had just two sons, but I have found three. I

 found records of two sons ­

 William and Thomas (aka Patrick) in the Clongowes

 Wood college records. But

 the 1901 census records a Robert (Bertie) aged

 12, son of Thomas and Mary

 Cryan of Falleens, Shroove, Monasteraden.

 Robert's name occurs again in his

 father's obituary notice, but the same notice

 says Cryan had two sons. He

 had one daughter, Amelia, who served with the

 League of Nations in Geneva.

 

 Part of my problem is that Mrs Mary Cryan

 seems to have taken her family

 to Dublin some time after her husband's death.

 The family just disappeared

 into the mists of time.

 

 Right now I wonder if anybody has a copy of

 the 1911 census records for

 the area, and would check to see if Mary Cryan

 (occupation: teacher in

 Townabrack girls' NS) is still there at that

 time.

 

 I am under a lot of work pressure this week

 and just cannot get in to

 the National Archive to check the census. My

 deadline is the end of this

 week. If your or any body can help with this

 query, I would be thrilled.

 

 Thank you, Pat Hunt

 --

 

 From: "Judith Burkhardt" <jburkhardt@adamswells.com> | Add to Address Book

 Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 11:07:47 -0500

 Subject: [Cryan et al.] CRYAN & FLYNN

 To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

 Hi List,

 This is my first posting, but hope someone out

 there recognizes and ties

 into my little Cryan family.

 I am looking for Catherine Cryan Flynn's siblings

 and more info. on her

 parents. Catherine was born ca. 1853 in either

 Middletown, Orange Co., or

 possibly Sullivan Co., NY and died 29 Dec 1905 in

 Fulton Co., NY and buried

 at St. Mary's cemetery (they were Catholic). I

 know little about her parents

 other then their names Michael Cryan and Mary?

 Ferguson, whom I believe

 migrated to NY from somewhere in Ireland.

 Catherine, married Michael F. Flynn 15 June 1881

 in Fulton, Oswego Co., NY

 and they were the parents of 8 children. I have

 their names, it anyone is

 interested, but trying to stick with the Cryan

 side here.

 If anyone sees a connection, I would love to hear

 from you or if anyone can

 offer any suggestions were to search further, I

 would appreciate this as

 well.............I hope there are some cousins

 out there.

 One last thing, can someone tell my how the Cryan

 name is pronounced.

 Someone told me is was pronounced like Crane and

 another like Crayon. Thanks

 so much for help you can supply..........Judi

 

Karen McElrath" <k.mcelrath@qub.ac.uk> | Add to Address Book

 Subject: Re: [Cryan et al.] CRYAN & FLYNN

 Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 16:00:24 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time)

 To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

 hello judith: i can't help you with your line,

 but we pronounce

 the name as it rhymes with ryan. however, my

 great grandfather

 was martin cryan from brougher, county sligo, who

 allegedly pronounced it quickly so that it

 sounded like crane.

 in fact, his naturalisation papers show the name

 spelled CRAIN.

 good luck, karen

 

A. Riley" <ariley@ltp.org> | Add to Address Book

 Subject: RE: [Cryan et al.] CRYAN & FLYNN

 Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 15:09:31 -0600

 To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

 

 Same here. The old records in Sligo Ireland and

 the 1848 ship's list show

 great-great-grandmother's surname as Cryan, the

 slightly later records in

 Massachusetts show it as Crane, and the later

 records in Wisconsin (and her

 gravestone, 1880) show it as Crain.

 So I'm guessing it was always pronounced Crane.

 A. Riley

 

 

 Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 08:23:33 -0800 (PST)

 From: "Nancy Fiore" <nancy_fiore@yahoo.com> Add to Address Book Subject: Could you please send out this inquiry for me?

 To: caoimhghin@yahoo.com

 Hello,

 I replied to a post from the Cryan list --

 "Judith

 Burkhardt" <jburkhardt@adamswells.com> on the

 Cryan-Flynn question, but I really wanted to post

 to all the Crean and Crane and Crain families also.

 I have added more names in this post than the one I

 sent to Judith.

 

 By hitting reply, does everyone on the list get

 the email? The title of Cryan-Flynn is not correct

 for my purposes. This list is new to me, so where

 should I

 ask my question?

 

 Information for all:

 I talked with some archive specialists from the

 U.S.

 National Archives, and they told me that the

 census

 takers were instructed to "hurry up" and write

 down

 what they heard for the names. They were told

 NOT to

 ask how the names were spelled because it took

 too

 long, and they were paid by the quantity of names

 they

 wrote down.

 

 In 1870, all the names that were really Crean,

 etc.

 were written down as CRANE -- every one of them!

 In

 some other states, they were written as CRAIN.

 It all

 depended on who wrote it down, and how they

 wanted to

 spell it! At least we do know for sure that they

 "heard" a long vowel a in the name.

 

 Some people continued to use the new spelling,

 while

 others went back to the old way. Children in the

 same

 family ended up with various spellings because of

 the

 census takers, who were simply doing what they

 were

 told to do to make the process more efficient.

 

 By the way, all Irish people were written down as

 English on their naturalization papers until

 1922.

 They were required to give up their "allegiance"

 to

 the Queen until that year, when they once again

 had a

 country of their own called Ireland. I am from

 America, so if I didn't explain this right,

 please

 forgive me.

 

 Question:

 If anybody knows anything about my ancestors, I

 would

 appreciate the information, or at least a hint of

 where to look in Ireland -- like which county did

 they

 come from? They came from Dublin, Ireland, June

 24,

 1851, on the ship Fortuna. That is all I know

 about

 them in Ireland. In America, we have Napoleon

 Crean,

 Anne Crean, Charles Crean, William Thomas Crean,

 Catherine Crean, James Thomas Crean, Andrew

 Crean,

 Raymond Crean, Lester Crean, Thomas Aloysius

 Crean,

 Dorothy Crean, Arthur Bryan Crean, Ralph Crean,

 Roy

 Crean, Etta Crean, Mabel Crean, Gertrude Crean,

 Blanche Crean, Bessie (Betty Crean), and a host

 of

 others. Mary Anne Dillon and Arthur Decker are

 also

 related to our Crean family in America. If these

 names sound familiy, please let me know.

 

 Many of my family use Crean, but others use

 Crane. I

 did find a Napoleon Bonaparte Crain in America,

 but he

 is not my forefather. He could be a relative,

 though.

 

 Thanks so much.

 

 Nancy Fiore, descendant of Napolean Bonaparte

 Crean and Ann Crean of Chicago, Illinois, USA

 

 

 Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 08:32:46 -0800 (PST)

 From: "Nancy Fiore" <nancy_fiore@yahoo.com> Add to Address Book Subject: Revised inquiry -- added last name of Lewis to Crean list

 To: caoimhghin@yahoo.com

 

 Hello,

 I replied to a post from the Cryan list --

 "Judith

 Burkhardt" <jburkhardt@adamswells.com> on the

 Cryan-Flynn question, but I really wanted to post

 to all the Crean and Crane and Crain families also.

 I

 have added more names in this post than the one I

 sent

 to Judith.

 

 By hitting reply, does everyone on the list get

 the

 email? The title of Cryan-Flynn is not correct

 for my

 purposes. This list is new to me, so where

 should I

 ask my question?

 

 Information for all:

 I talked with some archive specialists from the

 U.S.

 National Archives, and they told me that the

 census

 takers were instructed to "hurry up" and write

 down

 what they heard for the names. They were told

 NOT to

 ask how the names were spelled because it took

 too

 long, and they were paid by the quantity of names

 they

 wrote down.

 

 In 1870, all the names that were really Crean,

 etc.

 were written down as CRANE -- every one of them!

 In

 some other states, they were written as CRAIN.

 It all

 depended on who wrote it down, and how they

 wanted to

 spell it! At least we do know for sure that they

 "heard" a long vowel a in the name.

 

 Some people continued to use the new spelling,

 while

 others went back to the old way. Children in the

 same

 family ended up with various spellings because of

 the

 census takers, who were simply doing what they

 were

 told to do to make the process more efficient.

 

 By the way, all Irish people were written down as

 English on their naturalization papers until

 1922.

 They were required to give up their "allegiance"

 to

 the Queen until that year, when they once again

 had a

 country of their own called Ireland. I am from

 America, so if I didn't explain this right,

 please

 forgive me.

 

 Question:

 If anybody knows anything about my ancestors, I

 would

 appreciate the information, or at least a hint of

 where to look in Ireland -- like which county did

 they

 come from? They came from Dublin, Ireland, June

 24,

 1851, on the ship Fortuna. That is all I know

 about

 them in Ireland. In America, we have Napoleon

 Crean,

 Anne Crean, Charles Crean, William Thomas Crean,

 Catherine Crean, James Thomas Crean, Andrew

 Crean,

 Raymond Crean, Lester Crean, Thomas Aloysius

 Crean,

 Dorothy Crean, Arthur Bryan Crean, Ralph Crean,

 Roy

 Crean, Etta Crean, Mabel Crean, Gertrude Crean,

 Blanche Crean, Bessie (Betty Crean), and a host

 of

 others. Mary Anne Dillon, Arthur Decker and the

 last

 name Lewis (Lewis/Crean marriage) are also

 related to our Crean family in America. If these

 names sound familiy, please let me know.

 

 Many of my family use Crean, but others use

 Crane. I

 did find a Napoleon Bonaparte Crain in America,

 but he

 is not my forefather. He could be a relative,

 though.

 

 Thanks so much.

 

 Nancy Fiore, descendant of Napolean Bonaparte

 Crean

 and Ann Crean of Chicago, Illinois, USA

 

 From: "Derrick Caddy" <derrickcaddy@ntlworld.com> Add to Address Book To: "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [Cryan et al.] Crean search and info on naming in USA Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 18:30:30 -0000

 We have just found out that our Stephen Crean who

 went to the Us from the Uk

 in 1879 was in Chicago Illinois in 1900 . He was

 married to Stella who was

 French .He was in New York in 1880 and was a

 cornet player.When I saw

 Napoleon among your family names I wondered if

 there was a connection .

 Stephens family were from Cork and then Newport

 South Wales . His birthplace

 was down as England though Ireland was given as

 the land of his parents. We

 believe he was shot by his business partner but

 have no further information

 on that episode . All the best Gill in Barry

 

 > From: "Nancy Fiore" <nancy_fiore@yahoo.com>

 >

 > >

 > In 1870, all the names that were really Crean,

 > etc. were written down as CRANE -- every one

 of them!

 >

 > In some other states, they were written as

 CRAIN.

 > It all depended on who wrote it down, and how

 they

 > wanted to spell it! At least we do know for

 sure that

 > they "heard" a long vowel a in the name.

 >> Question:

 > If anybody knows anything about my ancestors,

 I

 > would appreciate the information, or at least

 a hint

 > of where to look in Ireland -- like which

 county did

 > they come from? They came from Dublin,

 Ireland, June

 > 24, 1851, on the ship Fortuna. That is all I

 know

 > about them in Ireland. In America, we have

 Napoleon

 > Crean, Anne Crean, Charles Crean, William

 Thomas

 > Crean, Catherine Crean, James Thomas Crean,

 Andrew

 > Crean, Raymond Crean, Lester Crean, Thomas

 Aloysius

 > Crean, Dorothy Crean, Arthur Bryan Crean,

 Ralph

 > Crean,

 > Roy Crean, Etta Crean, Mabel Crean, Gertrude

 Crean,

 > Blanche Crean, Bessie (Betty Crean), and a

 host

 > of others. Mary Anne Dillon, Arthur Decker and

 the

 > last name Lewis (Lewis/Crean marriage) are

 also

 > related to our Crean family in America. If

 these

 > names sound familiy, please let me know.

 >

 > Many of my family use Crean, but others use

 > Crane. I did find a Napoleon Bonaparte Crain

 in

 > America, but he is not my forefather. He could

 be a

 > relative, though.

 >

 > Thanks so much.

 >

 > Nancy Fiore, descendant of Napolean Bonaparte

 > Crean and Ann Crean of Chicago, Illinois, USA

 >

 >

 

 From: "Derrick Caddy" <derrickcaddy@ntlworld.com> Add to Address Book To:

 "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>

 Subject: Re: [Cryan et al.] Crean search and info on naming in USA

 Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 18:55:56 -0000

 I should be on the list as the messages got

 through .

 It's only the last few days when Brian on the

 Glamorgan list wrote to let us

 know of the free trial period at Proquest that I

 found some information on

 Stephen after the 1880 census. I pressed reply

 and assumed the reply was

 sent to the whole list .I'll try reply all . In

 1884 Stephen played the

 cornet with the 69th regiment band . Gill in

 Barry

 

 

 Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 16:51:24 -0800 (PST)

 From: "Kathleen" <kgrone@yahoo.com> Add to Address Book

 Subject: [Cryan et al.] CRY'an

 To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

 My Grandmother was Isabell M. Creen. According to

 my grandfather and other family Creen, Creen,

 Cryan, etc... was pronounced Cry' an With a roll of

 the r - accent on CRY with a soft an.

 

 That's all I know. God Bless, Kathleen O'Donnell

 

 From: "bcunning" <bcunning@iprimus.com.au> Add to Address Book

 Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 09:54:37 +1100

 Subject: [Cryan et al.] Fw: Catherine Cryan

 To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

 Hello from Australia. I am trying to find

 relatives of Catherine who came to Australia in 1854. I

 have been hampered because on various documents,

 her name is shown as CREON/CRANE/CRYAN and even

 CRYING.

 Her Death Cert. says that she was born in Mason

 County, Maysville, Kentucky, but her Marriage

 Cert. I received today shows her birth place as

 Roscommon Co.

 Any help here would be greatly appreciated.

 Cheers, Bob in Melbourne.

                        From:

                            "Leslie Poche" <fivecents.mom@verizon.net>  Add to Address Book

                        Date:

                            Wed, 3 Dec 2003 21:35:26 -0500

                      Subject:

                            [Cryan et al.] US citizenship process & effects

                         To:

                            CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

                      This is from the National Archives:

 

                      "Until September 1922 when the Cable Act was

                      passed,

                      Section 1994 of the Act of February 10, 1855 was

                      in

                      effect.  Women received derivative citizenship

                      when

                      they married a U.S. citizen, or when their

                      husband was

                      naturalized.  Unfortunately, there is no paper

                      trail

                      until the forms were revised in 1906.  A wife's

                      name

                      is not listed on her husband's citizenship papers

                      prior to that year. Minor children also derived

                      citizenship from a parent who became a citizen,

                      but

                      were not listed on the early naturalization

                      documents."

 

                      I think it would help everybody to understand how

                      things were done, and why.

 

                      Nancy

 

                        Date:

                            Thu, 15 Jan 2004 02:59:59 -0800 (PST)

                        From:

                            "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>  Add to Address Book

                      Subject:

                            [Cryan et al.] Roscommon Herald Articles No 127

                         To:

                            CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

 

 

 

 

 

                      Roscommon Herald Articles No 127

                      Thanks to Veronica Cryan for the typing

 

                       December 20th, 1890.

 

                       KEASH EMMETS' v BALLINAFAD,

                       GAELS, (CO. SLIGO).

 

                       A closely-contested match between these teams

                      was

                       played on Sunday, the 14th inst., on the ground

                       of the former, Mr. Michael Cryan, with his usual

                       generosity,  placed a field at their disposal.

                      The

                      day being

                       most  propitious a great number of spectators

                       assembled to  witness the sport. Rev. P. Conlon,

                      C.C.

                      Keash,

                       acted  as referee, his decisions throughout the

                      play

                       being  received with mutual satisfaction by both

                       parties. As the teams lined up they presented a

                      fine

                      body of

                       Gaels  as could be seen; the Ballinafad then

                      wearing

                       green  and yellow jerseys, and the Emmets

                      sporting

                      their

                       patron's uniform of green faced with white and

                       gold.

                       The Ballinafads having won the toss, took

                       advantage of  the hill - wind there being none.

                      On

                      the ball

                       being  thrown in there was good centre play

                      indulged

                      in

                       for  some time, till the Emmets' getting off

                      with the

 

                       ball  rushed to score, but after an exciting

                      tussle

                       sent it  behind. After kick from goal the Emmets

                      still

                       kept  the ball in their opponents territory,

                      putting

                      it

                       behind again several times. The ball was then

                       well  played for some minutes, when the Emmets

                      again

                       rushed  to score. Michl Gowan sent the ball

                      whizzing

                      to

                       the  goal till stopped by Downes, the

                      goal-keeper, it

 

                       being  immediately sent behind. After kick-out

                      again

                       the  Ballinafad captain, Madden, ably assisted

                      by

                      Dyer

                       and  Kennedy made bold rushes into their

                      opponents

                       ground,  but the O'Connors and Thrumble

                      intercepting

                      their

                       advances always, returned the ball with cool

                      long

                       kicks from behind. The play afterwards became

                       extremely exciting, men being sent tumbling over

                       each  other in quick succession, during which

                      each

                       captain  proved to be a host in himself. The

                      intensity of

                       the  play was kept up till call of half-time,

                      when

                       there  was nothing scored on either side. Second

                       half-time  commenced with more good play on

                      neutral

                      ground,

                       the  Ballinafads making an attempt to score, and

                      but

                       for  the dexterity of an Emmet had a point

                      gained.

                       Dyer  and Cryan now sent the ball down to the

                      captain,

                       Walsh, who would have scored several times but

                      for

                      the

                       energetic defending of Dowd and Casey. In one of

                       the  rushes Crofton although hemmed in by

                      several

                       opponents, scored a goal for the Emmets. Several

                       vigorous rushes by both sides, skilful play, and

                       fine  kicking characterised the rest of the play

                      till

 

                       full  time. The Emmet goal-keeper did not get

                      even a

                       single kick at the ball during the whole play.

                      Time

                      now

                       being now called, the referee announced the

                      scoring:---

                       Emmets, one goal; Ballinafads, nil.

                       And then remarked that they (the Emmets) could

                       not but admire the pluck and manliness with

                      which the

                       Ballinafad Gaels distinguished themselves

                       throughout the play. The loud cheers from the

                      assembled

                       multitudes testifying how they endorsed his

                       statement. Of O'Dowd's conduct on the field our

                      rev.

                       president  afterwards spoke in landatory terms.

                      Meanwhile

                       the following resolution was passed on the

                      field,

                       where were assembled the Gaels of two parishes

                      with

                       hundreds of sympathisers :- "Resolved - That we

                      join

                       in the demand for the retirement of Mr. Parnell

                      who

                       having outraged morality and deliberately

                       deceived his colleagues for years, now sets

                      himself

                      at the

                       head of a faction who were elected to sit, act

                      and

                       vote with the majority of the Irish

                      Parliamentary

                       Party. Away with the pledge-breakers, those

                      quondam

                       pledge-makers."

 

                       T. Garvin, Sec.

 

 

                        Date:

                            Thu, 15 Jan 2004 03:47:56 -0800 (PST)

                        From:

                            "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>  Add to Address Book

                      Subject:

                            [Cryan et al.] Roscommon Herald Articles No 128

                         To:

                            CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

 

 

 

 

 

 

                      Roscommon Herald Articles No 128

                      Thanks to Veronica Cryan for the typing

 

                       19th October,1895.

                       TRANSFERS:

                       Mr. John Cryan, Boyle, was granted a

                      confirmation

                       of transfer [of licence]. Mr. McDermot was for

                       applicant.

 

 

 

                        Date:

                            Thu, 15 Jan 2004 03:54:41 -0800 (PST)

                        From:

                            "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>  Add to Address Book

                      Subject:

                            [Cryan et al.] Roscommon Herald Articles No 129

                         To:

                            CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

 

 

 

 

 

                      Roscommon Herald Articles No 129

                      Thanks to Veronica Cryan for the typing

 

                       June 18th, 1889.

                       KNOCKARUSH ROUND TOWERSS - V - COOTEHALL WOLFE

                       TONES.

                       This was the fiercest match yet played. In

                       justice to the Wolfe Tones it must be said they

                      laboured

                       under a good many disadvantages. Some of their

                      best

                       players have emigrated, and those who took their

                      places

                       were of smaller physique than their powerful

                       opponents.

                       Knockarush won the toss, and took the hill and

                       wind, but Cootehall got away first with the

                      ball, and

 

                       sent it over the goal line.

                       The Knockarush goal-keeper having kicked off,

                      the

                       play was even for a few minutes, but the Round

                      Towers

                       steadily forced the ball down on their

                      opponents.

                       The Wolfe Tones made a gallant dash and got the

                       ball to the opposide side of the field, but

                       Knockarush again brought it back, and looked

                      like

                      scoring

                       when a Wolfe Tone kicked behind. The free kick

                      for

                       Knockarush was taken by Cox who failed to make

                      anything of

                       it.

                       The ball was forced down to the goal-line and a

                       Wolf Tone having picked it up, an angry

                      scrimmage

                      took

                       place, which the referee found some difficulty

                      in

                       calming. The Wolfe Tone goalkeeper having kicked

                       off, Knockarush again pressed their opponents,

                      and

                      Pat

                       Morris, who was supported by his brother and

                       Regan made a point.

                       After twenty minutes' play, Knockarush added a

                       second point. With coolness and judgement it

                      looked

                      as

                       if the players could easily have made goals.

                      Still

                       pressing on their opponents, Knockarush went

                       periliously near adding another point, but the

                       Cootehall backs, especially young O'Hara,

                       splendidly saved disaster, The Wolfe Tones made

                      another

                       plucky dash, and carried the ball up the field,

                      but

                       Knockarush brought it back , and some fierce

                       scrimmages took place in front of the goal and

                       around the point post. The referee put out a

                      Knockarush player for

                       tripping.

                       At half-time the score stood - Knockarush: two

                       points to nil. At change of sides, the Wolfe

                       Tones pressed into the Knockarush ground, and

                      kept

                      the

                       ball there during the second half-hour. The

                      Round

                       Towers played a defensive game, lining up three

                      deep

                      in

                       front of their goal and points. A fierce

                      scrimmage

                       took place near the Knockarush goal in which one

                      of

                       the jerseys of the Wolfe Tones was torn, and the

                      ball

                       having been driven behind the referee, allowed a

                       free kick. Cryan took the kick, and scored a

                      point.

                       The Round Towers adopted tactics of delay, and

                      for

                       kicking the ball outside the touch lines, they

                      were

                       fequently hooted by the spectators.

                       In the final scrimmage the ball was sent flying

                       for their point posts, but was caught by one of

                      the

                       Round-Towers. A fierce tussle follwed, the men

                       on both sides swarming up, and finally all went

                       over the goal-line a few yards from the

                      point-posts.

                       At call of time, the score stood - Knockarush

                      two

                       points; Cootehall: one point. The Wolfe Tones

                       entered an objection, that two members of

                      another

                       club played with Knockarush. They also claimed a

                      goal

 

                       and a point which did not come under the

                      observation

                       of the referee, or of any uninterested

                      spectators.

                       The following teams are:-

 

                       KNOCKARUSH: - Pat Morris, E. Beirne, P. Tansey,

                       James Connor, J.Cox, Michael Sharkey, Tim

                      Killelea,

                      J.

                       Reagan, Pat Killelea, M. Connors, Michl

                      Killelea,

                       J. Beirne, C.Cox, James Killelea, J. Kielty,

                      James

                       Tansey, Pat Killelea, Tom Killelea, James Egan,

                       John Morris (Captain) J. Nicholson (Goalkeeper),

                      Goal

                       umpires - B. Queenan, B. McDonagh: Field umpires

                       - John Roche, Luke Mullany.

 

                       COOTEHALL: - P. Cryan (captain) Joe O'Hara

                       (goalkeeper) M. Foley, Wm. Malone, Michl

                      Forey,B.

                       Kelly, Wm. O'Hara, P.Appleby, Pat Boland, L.

                       Morahan, Michl Maxwell, Michael Kelly, W.

                      Appleby,

                      Pat

                       O'Hara, Connor Tansey, J. Meehan, Michael Lynch,

                      Wm.

                       O'Hara, John Boland, John Judge, F. Brehany,

                      Goal

                       umpires - F. Bambrick, P. Moran; field umpires -

                      J.

                       Forby, J. Kelly.

 

                        Date:

                            Thu, 15 Jan 2004 03:58:01 -0800 (PST)

                        From:

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                      Subject:

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                      Roscommon Herald Articles No 130

                      Thanks to Veronica Cryan for the typing

 

                       April 20th, 1889.

                        THE LABOURER'S COTTAGES:

                       The Board to up the consideration of tenders for

                       the erection of five cottages, when the

                      following

                       were received:-

                      […]

                       John Cryan, of Carrick, tendered to build two in

                       Dangan Nugent, and two in Knocknagowna, for

                      £266,

                       and gave as his sureties Messrs. George McCann

                      and

                       Pat Costello, of Correen.

                      […]

                       Mr. Cryan's tender for four cottages was

                       accepted.

                      […]

 

 

                        Date:

                            Thu, 15 Jan 2004 04:03:08 -0800 (PST)

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                            [Cryan et al.] Roscommon Herald Articles No 131

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                      Roscommon Herald Articles No 131

                      Thanks to Veronica Cryan for the typing

 

                      14th October, 1905.

                      Election of Petty Session Clerk for Ballyfarnon

                      and

                      Keadue

                       A Correspondent writes:-

                       At the Keadue Petty Sessions held on Friday held

                       on Friday the 6th inst., the magistrates

                      presiding

                       proceeded to elect a Clerk at a salary of £66

                      per

                       annum,in the room of Mr. Bushell, resigned. It

                       may be remembered that on a former occasion the

                      election

                       resulted in a tie between Sargeant L.Callan,

                       R.I.C., Geevagh, and Mr. Bernard McManus,

                      Arigna,

                      each

                       candidate securing 3 votes. On the present

                       occasion the struggle was renewed between the

                      same

                      two

                       candidates, all others having withdrawn from the

                       contest. The magistrates in attendance were :-

                       the Earl of Kingston, Geo Krogh Esq., J.P. The

                       MacDermotroe, Dr. John Rogers, Mr. Kilbride,

                      R.M.

                       Dr. J.H. Redden, Mr. J. Keaveny, Mr. J. Cryan,

                      J.P.

                       Keash, Co. Sligo. Sergeant Callan handed

                       testimonials, but the R.M. declined to read

                      them. The

                      Sergeant

                       then objected to Mr. Cryan's adjudicating , as

                      he was

 

                       not a Justice of the county , but the chairman

                       interrupted him , and would not allow him to

                      speak,

                      and

                       proceeded to poll the magistrates. There voted

                      for

                      Sergt.

                       Callan - the Earl of Kingston. Dr. Rogers the

                       MacDermotroe, and Mr. Keogh - 4. For Mr.

                       MacManus - Mr. J. Keaveny, Dr. Roden and Mr.

                      Kilbride

 

                       - 3. When he had exhausted the names on the

                      official

                       list he entered Mr. Cryan's name, who also voted

                      for

                       Mr. McManus, thereby creating a tie. Sergeant

                       Callan  again attempted to object but was told

                      by the

 

                       chairman to send his objection to whereever he

                      liked,

                      and

                       declared nobody elected. The hostility of the

                       R.M. towards the Sergeant was very marked on the

                       occasion, and his determination to have the

                      secretary

                      of

                       the U.I.L. elected was very much criticized by

                      the

                       law-abiding inhabitants present. Mr. Cryan is a

                       J.P. by virtue of his office as Chairman of

                      Boyle

                       No.2. District Council for that portion of the

                      County

 

                       Sligo in which his district is, and is not a

                      Justice

                       for any part of the County Roscommon. It is

                      understood

                       more will be heard about the elections, owing to

                      the

                       illegal action of some of the magistrates

                       present, and the part played by some of the

                      supporters of one

                       of the candidates. It is expected that this case

                       may figure in the Superior Court.

 

 

                        Date:

                            Thu, 15 Jan 2004 08:41:14 -0800 (PST)

                        From:

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                      Subject:

                            [Cryan et al.] Roscommon Herald Articles No 132

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                      Roscommon Herald Articles No 132

                      Thanks to Veronica Cryan for the typing

 

                       A BALLYBANE SUIT.

                       28th January,1904.

 

                       Darby Crann, Liam Boyle sued John Crann of same

                       place for £25 for damages sustained by the

                      plaintiff

                       for defendant encroaching on plaintiff's Land ,

                       during the partition of a farm.

                       Mr. D. MacDermot appeared for plaintiff and Mr.

                       P.C.P. MacDermot defended.

                       Mr. P. MacDermot suggested that the case be left

                       to a third surveyor, as it was a question of

                       measurement. It was decided to go on with the

                      case.

                       Mr. Farrel Cauley, in reply to Mr. D. MacDermot

                       deposed he remembered the suit between Crann and

                       Crann, and he made the partition Quarter

                      Sessions he

                       showed his maps which satisfied all parties. He

                      lockspitted

                       every fence that was to be made, and both men

                      agreed

                      to

                       it . Afterwards he heard a complaint and Mr.

                      Dickie

                       an he went to the place, and they found a

                      certain

                       discrepancy in the fences.

                       John grabbed two feet of Darby's land, and

                       witness told him he had no right to do it. Mr.

                      Dickie

                       afterwards made a survey of the place, and there

                       was only a difference of six perches between his

                       measurement and Mr. Dickie's, which he called an

                       extraordinary coincidence (laughter). Witness

                       told John was a fool for bringing all these

                      witnesses

 

                       to court for several days for two feet of land.

                      It

                       was only putting the unfortunate man to expense,

                      and

                       witness did not care one way or another,

                      although

                       he was not paid as yet.

                       Mr. P.C.P. MacDermot --- Never fear you'll take

                       care of that.

                       Witness was examined at lenght by Mr. P.C.P.

                       MacDermot as to the maps of Mr. Dickie and his

                      own.

                      All

                       parties were fighting well and should be made

                       pay.  One would think it was a beauty they had,

                       coming in here every day.

                       Mr. P. MacDermot --- They have a luxury when

                      they

                       have you. (laughter).

                       Mr.Dickie discovered the error on the ground

                      with

                       Mr. Cauley when the land was partitioned. John

                      was

                       short six perches less than he should have, and

                       according to that John did not encroach.

                       To Mr. D. MacDermot .... I don know if John

                      Crann

                       put down his fence in accordance with the

                       instructions of Mr. Cauley.

                       John Crann, the defendant in the case, deposed

                       Mr. Cauley turned a sod with a joy, and witness

                       proceeded to make the fence on the 2nd February

                      of

                      last

                       year. Plaintiff and he would not make the fence

                      the

                      way

                       witness was making them , and he would not put a

                       log in the ground. Witness had the fence made on

                      the

                       11th March, in accordance with Mr. Cauley's

                       directions. Afterwards when Mr. Cauley came to

                      him

                      the latter

                       end of February, he told him not to go so far

                      about

                       a foot, and he agreed afterwards in accordance

                       with this direction.

                       By Mr. D. MacDermot ---Mr. Cauley did not ask to

                       stop, and I only followed what he told me.

                       Owen Grehan deposed he worked at the fences with

                       John Crann. He was sure they did not go in on

                      Darby

                       Crann's land. Michael Nicholson gave corroborate

                      evidence. John

                       Crann did not go inside what Mr. Cauley marked.

                       His Lordship complimented Mr. Cauley on the

                       manner in which he made his award, and he

                      dismissed

                      the

                       case on the merits. He allowed Mr. Cauley £5,

                      half to

                      be

                       paid by Darby Crann and the other half by John.

                       Darby---Cauley must go out again on the lands

                       (laughter). Ultimately Darby was prevailed on to

                      act

                      as was

                       suggested, and the case ended.

 

 

 

                        Date:                            Tue, 27 Jan 2004 02:48:55 -0800 (PST)

                        From:                            "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>  Add to Address Book                      Subject:                            [Cryan et al.] RIC RECORDS and Thomas Cryan                         To:                            CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

                      Dear ALL

                      Jim Herlihy has written four books on Irish

                      policing.                      He mentions a Thomas Cryan below with a very

                      interesting history. Is he related to you?

                      REGARDS                      caoimhghin

 

                       RIC RECORDS

                         Date:      Thu, 22 Jan 2004 19:41:54 -0000

                         From:    "Jim Herlihy"

                      <j_herlihy@esatclear.ie>

 

                      Dear Caoimghin,

 

                      With reference to your great-grandfather, JOSEPH

                      CRYAN

                      who served in the RIC, I presume from your e-mail

                      that

                      you have not read both my books on the Royal

                      Irish

                      Constabulary. Both of my books should answer your

                      questions in finding your ancestor's RIC Service

                      Records. There is also a very very strong

                      possibility

                      that he had relatives in the RIC.

                      You had to be 19 to join, but if your father was

                      in

                      the service you could be aged 18 years.

                      Similarly, you

                      had to be 5'9" in height, but if your father was

                      in

                      the RIC you could be 5'8". You could not serve in

                      your

                      home county or that of your wife and you had to

                      have

                      seven years service before you were permitted to

                      marry. Also there were 549 RIC men murdered

                      between

                      1916 and 1922.

 

                      I searched the RIC Index which contains the names

                      of

                      all 85,028 members of the RIC who joined between

                      1816

                      and 1922 and I found that there were 18 persons

                      with

                      the Surname CRYAN in the RIC, however, there were

                      only 2 with the Christian name and Surname JOSEPH

                      CRYAN, one joined in 1882 and the other in 1910,

                      one

                      of which has to be your great-grandfather.

                      As regards your CRYAN ancestors in the IRB and

                      IRA,

                      the Sinn Fein and Republican suspects, 1899-1921,

                      including Michael Collins are listed in

                      the C(olonial) Office 904/193-216 Series in the

                      PRO,

                      Kew. I believe this series has been microfilmed

                      and is

                      in the National Library, Dublin

                      - see pages 246-249 in the Bibliography of my

                      third

                      book mentioned below.

 

                      There was only one person with the CRYAN Surname

                      in

                      the Dublin Metropolitan Police. He was Thomas

                      Cryan,

                      born in 1891 in Boyle, Co.Sligo. He joined the

                      RIC

                      first, RIC 65740, transferred to the DMP later,

                      DMP 11995, and was one of the first members of

                      the

                      'New CID' of the Garda Siochana in 1925 when it

                      was

                      amalgamated with the DMP. I have often thought

                      that he

                      was an agent for Michael Collins, because he

                      was a member of the 'Oriel House Detectives'

                      which was

                      formed following the signing of the Treaty and

                      its

                      members reported directly to Michael

                      Collins up to the time of his death. He was also

                      chosen for the 'New CID' by David Neligan ('The

                      Spy in

                      the Castle') who formed the 'New CID'. In effect

                      he

                      was a member of four police forces and the only

                      member of the RIC to become one of the Oriel

                      House

                      Detectives. Do you know if he is related to you?

 

                      The RIC Service Records contain the following

                      information:-

                      REGISTERED

                      NUMBER, NAME, EXACT DATE OF BIRTH, AGE WHEN

                      APPOINTED,

                      HEIGHT, NATIVE COUNTY, RELIGION, MARRIAGE DATE,

                      NATIVE

                      COUNTY OF WIFE, BY WHOM RECOMMENDED, TRADE OR

                      CALLING,

                      APPOINTMENT DATE, ALLOCATIONS LIST,

                      DATES OF SECONDMENT IN THE BRITISH ARMY,

                      PROMOTION

                      DATES, DATE WHEN PENSIONED, RESIGNED, DISCHARGED

                      OR

                      DEATH.

 

                      It is my ambition to trace all policemen who

                      served in

                      Ireland before the foundation of the Irish Free

                      State

                      in 1922. I have approx.100,000

                      Irish policemen in my databases. I have written a

                      total of five books -

                      four of which are on Irish policing.

 

                      My first RIC book on policing is entitled "The

                      Royal

                      Irish Constabulary

 

                      - A Short History & Genealogical Guide" ISBN

                      1-85182-343-3). It was

                      published in August 1997, already went into

                      reprint in

                      October 1997

                      and went into a third reprint in February 1999.

                      As

                      well as a history it

                      opens up several avenues of further research on

                      RIC

                      ancestors and

                      give you some idea what life was like in the RIC.

                      It

                      includes all 549 members

                      of the RIC who were killed on duty between 1916

                      and

                      1922; all those

                      granted the Constabulary Medal; those who served

                      in

                      WW1, with what

                      regiment and the result of their service; those

                      who

                      transferred to

                      the Garda Siochana in 1922 following disbandment

                      of

                      the RIC on 31st August

                      1922. It is available in Hardback and paperback;

                      254pp.

 

                      FOR DETAILS SEE:-

                      http://www.four-courts-press.ie/cgi/bookshow.cgi?file=ric_list.xml

 

 

                      THIS BOOK CONTAINS A CHAPTER ' TRACING YOUR

                      ANCESTORS

                      IN THE RIC' WHICHWILL BE MOST HELPFUL TO YOU once

                      you

                      have his RIC Service Record.

 

                      My second book is entitled 'The Royal Irish

                      Constabulary - A Complete

                      Alphabetical List of Officers and Men, 1816-1922'

                      (ISBN

                      1-85182-502-9).

                      It was published in November 1999 and has just

                      been

                      reprinted in July

                      2000. It contains the Surnames, Christian Names

                      and

                      Registered Numbers

                      of all 85,028 members of the RIC who served

                      between

                      1816 and 1922;

                      488pp.

 

                      FOR DETAILS SEE:-

                      http://www.four-courts-press.ie/cgi/bookshow.cgi?file=RICabc.xml

 

                      The books can be obtained from:- Four Courts

                      Press, 7,

                      Malpas Street,

                      Dublin 8, Ireland. Tel.: International +

                      353-1-453-4668 Fax:International + 353-1-453-4672

 

                      Web: http://www.four-courts-press.ie

 

                      E-mail: info@four-courts-press.ie

 

                      The books can be ordered from Amazon and Four

                      Court's

                      Press over the

                      internet. In North America the books are

                      available

                      from

                      International

                      Specialized Book Services, 5804, Hassalo Street,

                      Portland, Oregon,

                      USA.

                      Tel. No. 1-800-944 6190; Fax No. (503) 280 8832;

                      E-mail; orders@isbs.com

 

                      My third book on policing is entitled "The Dublin

                      Metropolitan Police -

                      A Short History & Genealogical Guide".(ISBN

                      1-85182-462-6) hbk. and (ISBN 1-85182-463-4)pbk.

                      Was

                      published on 12th July 2001; 350pp.

 

                      FOR DETAILS SEE:-

                      http://www.four-courts-press.ie/cgi/bookshow.cgi?file=dmp.xml

 

 

                      My fourth book is entitled 'The Dublin

                      Metropolitan

                      Police - A Complete Alphabetical List of Officers

                      and

                      Men, 1836-1925'. (ISBN 1-85182-601-7)

                      hbk. has just been published on 12th July 2001;

                      294pp.

                      It contains the

                      names of all 12,566 members of the DMP, arranged

                      by

                      Surname;

                      Christian

                      Name; Warrant Number; Birth Year; Native County;

                      Native Parish;

                      Death

                      Year - in police service. It includes those who

                      joined

                      the DMP from

                      the

                      RIC; from the Irish Revenue Police (1832-1857);

                      from

                      the London

                      Metropolitan Police; and those who transferred to

                      the

                      Garda

                      Siochana on

                      Amalgamation with the DMP in 1925. It includes

                      members

                      of the DMP

                      who

                      served in WW1 and the result of such service;

                      those

                      awarded the

                      Kings

                      Police Medal between 1909 and 1925; 294pp.

 

                      FOR DETAILS SEE:-

                      http://www.four-courts-press.ie/cgi/bookshow.cgi?file=dmplist.xml

                      I look forward to hearing from you.

                      Regards,                      JIM HERLIHY

 

 

                        From:                            "bob cunning" <rcun9703@bigpond.net.au>  Add to Address Book                        Date:                            Mon, 2 Feb 2004 16:41:20 +1100

                      Subject:                            [Cryan et al.] Re: Catherine Cryan

                         To:                            CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

 

                     Hello from Australia. I am trying to find

                      relatives of Catherine who came to Australia in 1854. I

                      have been hampered because on various documents,

                      her name is shown as CREON/CRANE/CRYAN and even

                      CRYING.                      Her Death Cert. says that she was born in Mason

                      County, Maysville, Kentucky, but her Marriage

                      Cert. shows her birth place as  Roscommon Co.

 

                      Any help here would be greatly appreciated.

                      Cheers, Bob in Melbourne.

 

 

 

                      Subject:                            Cryan Family

                        Date:                            Mon, 9 Feb 2004 16:08:49 -0500

                        From:                            "Cryan, Thomas (US - Washington D.C.)" <tcryan@deloitte.com>                         To:                            caoimhghin@yahoo.com

                         CC:                            "Jamie Cryan (E-mail)" <JCryan@fortlauderdale.gov>

                      My grandfather, Bernard Cryan, was  probably born

                      sometime in the 1870's in the Roscommon area and

                      migrated in the 1890's to the US through the port

                      of New York and settled in Buffalo, New York.  He

                      married Bridgett Ryan from Tipperary.  They had 5

                      children: Helen, Claire, Mary, Anna and Francis,

                      my father. 

                      Any information on Bernard's ancestors that you

                      would share with us is greatly appreciated.

                      Best regards,                      Thomas M. Cryan

 

 

 

                        Date:

                            Sat, 13 Mar 2004 13:05:20 -0500 (EST)

                         To:

                            caoimhghin@yahoo.com

                      Subject:

                            Hannon-Cryan--in parish of Toomour, Sligo

                        From:

                            "ELAINE HANNON" <erh5@psu.edu>  Add to Address Book

 

 

 

 

 

 

                      Dear Kevin,

 

                      I've noticed the settlement of Cryans and Hannons

                      in the Tithe applotments for

                      the parish of Toomour in Sligo on Sheila's Sligo

                      page.

                      It seems some of our families have intermarried

                      as well.

 

                      I have been trying to locate a William Hannon

                      born around 1800,

                      very likely from Sligo or Mayo who married a

                      Bridget Malone.

 

                      I have not had any success in finding the town of

                      Carnaweeleen in the parish of

                      Toomour nor have I found any availability of

                      parish records. My understanding

                      is my family may have gone to the Catholic church

                      in Fallougher but I have not

                      located that town either.

 

                      I was wondering if you might be familiar with

                      these towns or villages from your

                      research in the area or if you would know know

                      other resources for this area.

                      I've noticed the many Hannon names in the parish

                      are consistant with the web

                      anecdote I've heard about clusters of Hannons

                      near Gurteen and Boyle who were

                      flax growers and linenmakers. Supposedly, the

                      area was unofficially called

                      Hannon Town.

                      Have you heard any stories similar to this for

                      your family?  Their occupations?

 

                      Please let me know if you have any ideas on the

                      William mentioned or the

                      ancedote.

 

                      Let me know if there's anything I can do for you

                      on this end.

 

                      Elaine Hannon

                      Special Collections Library

                      Penn State

 

 

 

 

                        From:                            "janette" <yddraig@bellsouth.net>  Add to Address Book

                         To:                            caoimhghin@yahoo.com

                      Subject:                            crain / crane dna project

                        Date:                            Tue, 16 Mar 2004 21:24:32 -0500

 

                     http://www.ftdna.com/surname_join.asp?code=K79599&special=True

                                             hello,

                         i wrote to you over a year ago asking if you knew of a crane dna project. well someone has started one. i                      thought you should know about it in case you wanted to participate.

                      my cousin had a 25 marker test done.

                                       janette ledbetter greenville county south carolina usa

 

                        Date:                            Thu, 18 Mar 2004 02:00:01 -0800 (PST)

                        From:                            "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>  Add to Address Book                      Subject:                            [Cryan et al.] Re: crain / crane dna project

                         To:                            CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

                      Dear all

                      I received this email re crain / crane dna

                      project.                      It leads me to suggest a cryan/crean/crehan dna

                      project again. It would be very exciting to be

                      able to                      prove links between the different variations of

                      the                      surname and make links to eachother that would

                      otherwise not be possible.

                      Any comments or suggestions would be most welcome

                      ...

 

                      regards

                      caoimhghin

 

                      --- janette <yddraig@bellsouth.net> wrote:

                      >                      http://www.ftdna.com/surname_join.asp?code=K79599&special=True

                      >                       > hello,                      >    i wrote to you over a year ago asking if you

                      knew                      > of a crane dna project. well someone has

                      started                      > one. i thought you should know about it in case

                      you                      > wanted to participate.                      > my cousin had a 25 marker test done.                      >                  janette ledbetter greenville

                      county                      > south carolina usa

 

 

                        Date:                            Fri, 19 Mar 2004 17:35:39 -0800 (PST)

                        From:                              "Mary Devine" <maire1999@yahoo.com>  Add to Address Book                      Subject:                            devine/cryan genealogy

                         To:                            caoimhghin@yahoo.com

                      Hi Kevin!                      I posted to your guestbook about a year and a half ago. I posted using my email of maire1999@aol.com. I                      just wanted to say thanks again for keeping your website up with your family history. I read the article today

                      about the voting in Boyle. I wonder which Devine it was that seemed to be helping to gain votes for                      himself..lol.                       Anyways, I still have the Devine genealogy in paper form. I am hoping at some point to either transcribe it to

                      a word file or scan it as a pdf document. I'm still trying to figure out how the silly scanner works..lol.                       Keep up the great work preserving the Irish heritage!!!!

                      Mary Devine

                      Boston, MA

 

                        From:                            "bob cunning" <rcun9703@bigpond.net.au>  Add to Address Book                        Date:                            Sat, 20 Mar 2004 23:44:36 +1100

                      Subject:                            [Cryan et al.] Fw: CREON or CRYAN

                         To:                            CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

                      Hello from Melbourne.I have been searching for

                      many years and now am asking your help.

 

                      My relative is shown as Catherine CRYAN, but on

                      her marriage Cert. it is CREON. Father Paul, a

                      farmer. Mother Winifred (nee Lonsey), place of birth

                      Roscommon. DOB circa 1838

 

                      It is said that the family migrated to USA when

                      Catherine was 'little'. This may be true as her

                      death Cert shows birthplace as Maysville Kentucky.

                      A Grand Aunt always said that Catherine was

                      Irish. Catherine married Charles WELCH in Melbourne in

                      1855.

 

                      I do hope someone can assist me. Cheers, Bob.

 

 

                        Date:                            Mon, 22 Mar 2004 02:14:13 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time)

                        From:                            "Maureen McCourt Nantista" <mornan@optonline.net>  Add to Address Book                      Subject:                            Re: [Cryan et al.] Fw: CREON or CRYAN

                         To:                            CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

 

                     Hi Bob,                          Have you any idea when Catherine immigrated

                      to Australia? Have you                      searched passenger lists?

                      

                          Doing a soundex search of the U.S. censuses,

                      I've found a Paul                      Crain/Crane (born Ireland) and family in

                      Maysville, Mason County, Kentucky

                      in 1850 (36 yrs.), 1860 (49 yrs.) and 1870

                      (60yrs.). The names and ages of

                      the children, all born Kentucky, match-up pretty

                      well so I'm fairly sure it

                      s the same family. However, there's no Catherine.

                      Oldest child is a William

                      born abt.1842-1844

                      

                          Unfortunately, there are no relationships

                      given in these censuses and

                      the name of the adult female in the household is

                      different each time. In

                      1850 it is Larna (32 yrs.), in 1860 Sarah (45

                      yrs,) and in 1870 Winnie (60

                      yrs.) All were born in Ireland. There's also a

                      notation in 1850 that Larna

                      is "insane".

                      

                          If you believe there may be a connection, you

                      might want to find someone

                      who would be able to search obituary, property,

                      tax, church and probate

                      records in Maysville, Mason County to see if

                      perhaps a place name in Ireland

                      or a connection with Australia appears somewhere.

                                                 Good luck!

                                             Maureen Nantista                      Huntington, NY

                      

 

                        Date:                            Tue, 23 Mar 2004 05:54:54 -0800 (PST)

                        From:                              "Kathleen" <kgrone@yahoo.com>  Add to Address Book

                      Subject:                            [Cryan et al.] CREEN (Green), MINER

                              I received some great information from my

                      Dad's                      cousin, Phil Kerner in NY. He took a chance and

                      looked                      for a Rufus Joseph GREEN instead of CREEN (the

                      correct                      spelling), which paid off. 

                      We still don't have a birth date for Rufus but he

                      was                      born in NYC, not Germany as some thought, which

                      makes                      sense as CREEN is Irish (variation of Cryan).

 

                      Rufus' parents are John and Anna "Annie" MINER

                      Creen.

                       Some had thought Rufus was a "junior".   This is

                      the

                      first I have seen of a surname for Annie. A break 

                      through!

 

                      The information also stated Rufus married Lottie

                      Kerner (daughter of Philip and Jennie) October

                      26,

                      1904, Manhatten, NY, NY. Phil said he crossed

                      check

                      the information as well.

 

                      Smiles all around!

 

 

                        From:

                            Cay2545@aol.com  Add to Address Book

                        Date:

                            Tue, 2 Sep 2003 08:26:26 EDT

                      Subject:

                            Re: Hi ..

                         To:

                            caoimhghin@yahoo.com

                     Kevin,

                      Good to hear from you.  I had checked the lists and found the census 3 on it, so wondered if you had a year

                      for that one...

                      Yes, both Jill's and Edna's ggg's grandfathers are related to mine.  I'll send you some of the information.  I

                      believe Jill has a website with most of it on there.  She's taken a position out of Texas now, where I am.

                      Edna is in California.  It's been great to visit with both of them, and I believe Jill found another cousin, same

                      situation, in Houston.  I have yet to follow up on her.  I'm still looking for Cryan relatives in New Jersey that

                      were related to my father, but as you say connections are hard to find.  Have you made progress with your

                      own? Dottie

 

 

                        From:

                            "bob cunning" <rcun9703@bigpond.net.au>  Add to Address Book

                        Date:

                            Thu, 1 Apr 2004 23:22:04 +1000

                      Subject:

                            [Cryan et al.] Re: Catherine Cryan

                         To:

                            CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

                      Hello from Australia. I am trying to find

                      relatives of Catherine who came to Australia in 1854. I

                      have been hampered because on various documents,

                      her name is shown as CREON/CRANE/CRYAN and even

                      CRYING

 

                      Her Death Cert. says that she was born in Mason

                      County, Maysville, Kentucky, but her Marriage

                      Cert. shows her birth place as  Roscommon Co. I am

                      also on the Rosscommon List

 

                      Any help here would be greatly appreciated.

                      Cheers, Bob in Melbourne.

 

 

 

                        Date:

                            Tue, 6 Apr 2004 08:33:05 -0700 (PDT)

                        From:

                            "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>  Add to Address Book

                         To:

                            CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

                      Subject:

                            [Cryan et al.] Cryan Memorial Tennis Tournament

 

                     Hi all,

                      Any connections here?

                      The James E. Cryan Memorial Tennis Tournament 

                      began

                      in 1965, the 2004 tournament will be the 38th.

                      http://www.cryantennis.net/

                      caoimhghin

 

 

                        From:

                            "Alison Crehan Feeney" <crehan@comcast.net>  Add to Address Book

                        Date:

                            Mon, 26 Apr 2004 12:39:04 -0400

                         To:

                            CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

                      Subject:

                            [Cryan et al.] Crehans in Massachusetts

                      Hi all,

 

                      I am currently researching the family tree, and

                      am hoping someone out there

                      might be able to help with connections!

 

                      My great-grandfather is James Crehan, the son of

                      Lawrence and Catherine

                      Crehan (both born in Ireland)  and the brother of

                      Thomas, Mary, Katie, John,

                      Elizabeth and Agnes. James was born around 1862;

                      according to his children's

                      birth records, he was born in Hingham,

                      Massachusetts, though my aunt and

                      father say they were always told he was born on

                      Prince Edward Island.

 

                      I have been able to pinpoint them on the 1880

                      census for Hingham, and have

                      also located some Crehan birth, marriage  and

                      death records.

 

                      Other possible connections may exist with

                      Matthias Crehan and his wife

                      Ellen, F. Nellie Crehan, Mary Crehan Remington,

                      and Honora Crehan, all of

                      whom are buried at St. Paul's Cemetery in

                      Hingham, MA.

 

                      If any of these names ring any bells for you,

                      please contact me - crehan

                      (AT)comcast(DOT)net.

 

                      I'm also happy to help anyone out with lookups in

                      the area.

 

                      Thank you!!

 

 

                        From:

                            "Karen McElrath"   Add to Address Book

                      Subject:

                            Re: [Cryan et al.] Crehans in Massachusetts

                        Date:

                            Mon, 26 Apr 2004 20:31:30 -0400 (Eastern Standard Time)

                         To:

                            CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

                     hello and welcome to the list - where in

                      massachusetts in

                      hingham?  i don't think i have a connection but i

                      do have

                      cryan (and feeney) ancestors in wareham and in

                      swampscott.  i am

                      wondering if anyone knows of the connections

                      between the names

                      cryan and crehan.  seems like this issue was

                      posted to the list

                      a few years back.  i need to review the archives

                      one of these

                      days.  thanks, Karen

 

 

                        Date:

                            Tue, 27 Apr 2004 02:52:01 -0700 (PDT)

                        From:

                            "Caoimhghin O Croidheain"   Add to Address Book

                         To:

                            CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

                      Subject:

                            [Cryan et al.] Crehan

                      Crehan tends to be the Galway version of the name

                      O

                      croidheain. Most famously Junior Crehan, the

                      Clare

                      fiddler whose tunes [the ones which include his

                      name]

                      I have seen translated into Irish using the

                      croidheain

                      spelling.

 

                      see

                      http://www.mustrad.org.uk/articles/crehan.htm

 

                      http://www.setdancingnews.net/wcss/wcssjc.htm

 

                      http://www.irishfiddle.com/junior_crehan_article.html

 

                      caoimhghin

 

 

 

                        Date:

                            Tue, 27 Apr 2004 05:21:21 -0700 (PDT)

                        From:

                              "Nancy Fiore" <nancy_fiore@yahoo.com>  Add to Address Book

                      Subject:

                            Re: [Cryan et al.] crehan

                         To:

                            "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>

                      Hello.

                      Could you send this out?  Is this the right email

                      for

                      sending this out to others?

 

                      Is anyone familiar with any Crean family that

                      married

                      a Bonaparte or other French family?

 

                      My relative is Napoleon Bonaparte Crean.  Many

                      Bonapartes lived in England and also in Waterford

                      and

                      Dublin.  Does anyone know about who these

                      Bonapartes

                      married that might be Irish?

 

                      His wife was Ann, maybe Ann Lewis.  Their

                      children

                      were Charles, William, Catharine, James, Thomas,

                      Anne.

                      Any help would be greatly appreciated.

                      Nancy

 

                    

                        From:

                            "Alison Crehan Feeney" <crehan@comcast.net>  Add to Address Book

                      Subject:

                            RE: [Cryan et al.] Crehans in Massachusetts

                        Date:

                            Fri, 30 Apr 2004 09:25:23 -0400

                         To:

                            CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

                     Karen, Hingham is on the South Shore of Boston.

                      There's a great site here:

                      http://www.rootsweb.com/~mahingha/input.html .

                      Swampscott is on the North

                      Shore, and Wareham is towards Cape Cod.

 

                      Caoimhghin, the Hingham Library has its

                      birth/marriage/death records on

                      microfilm, as well as hundreds of years of local

                      papers. I was able to find

                      many Crehan records with little effort, including

                      a marriage announcement

                      for my great-grandparents in 1889. The library's

                      dedicated printer was

                      acting up, so I wasn't able to obtain hard

                      copies, but plan to return often

                      in the months to come. Would you like to see any

                      of these materials? I can

                      send scanned images, or transcribe details -

                      whatever would be most helpful

                      to the list.

 

                      Thanks!

                      Ali

 

                      -----Original Message-----

                      From: K.McElrath@Queens-Belfast.AC.UK

                      [mailto:K.McElrath@Queens-Belfast.AC.UK]On Behalf

                      Of Karen McElrath

                      Sent: Monday, April 26, 2004 8:32 PM

                      To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

                      Subject: Re: [Cryan et al.] Crehans in

                      Massachusetts

                      hello and welcome to the list - where in

                      massachusetts in

                      hingham?  i don't think i have a connection but i

                      do have

                      cryan (and feeney) ancestors in wareham and in

                      swampscott.  i am

                      wondering if anyone knows of the connections

                      between the names

                      cryan and crehan.  seems like this issue was

                      posted to the list

                      a few years back.  i need to review the archives

                      one of these

                      days.  thanks, karen

 

From:  "bob cunning" <rcun9703@bigpond.net.au>   Add to Address Book

Date:   Wed, 12 May 2004 16:26:57 +1000

To:       CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Subject:          [Cryan et al.] Fw: CREON or CRYAN

Hello from Melbourne.I have been searching for

many years and now am asking your help.

 

My relative is shown as Catherine CRYAN, but on

her marriage Cert. it is CREON. Father Paul, a

farmer. Mother Winifred (nee Lonsey), place of birth

Roscommon. DOB circa 1838

 

It is said that the family migrated to USA when

Catherine was 'little'. This may be true as her

death Cert shows birthplace as Maysville Kentucky.

A Grand Aunt always said that Catherine was

Irish. Catherine married Charles WELCH in Melbourne in

1855.

 

I do hope someone can assist me. Cheers, Bob.

Date:   Wed, 12 May 2004 18:46:37 -0700 (PDT)

From:    "edna fuller" <fuller_edna@yahoo.com>   Add to Address Book

Subject:          Re: [Cryan et al.] crehan

To:       "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>

 

Hi Nancy,

 

No relation to my Cryan's.  Idon't recognize any

of

these names.

 

Don't give up keep trying

 

Edna Fuller

--- Caoimhghin O Croidheain

<caoimhghin@yahoo.com>

wrote:

>                         From:

>                               "Nancy Fiore"

> <nancy_fiore@yahoo.com>      Re: [Cryan et al.]

> crehan

>                         

>                       Hello.

>

>                         Is anyone familiar with

any

> Crean family that  married  a Bonaparte or

other

> French family?

>

>                      My relative is Napoleon

> Bonaparte

> Crean.  Many   Bonapartes lived in England and

also

> in

> Waterford  and    Dublin.  Does anyone know

about

> who

> these  Bonapartes married that might be Irish?

>

>                       His wife was Ann, maybe

Ann

> Lewis.  Their   children   were Charles,

William,

> Catharine, James, Thomas,   Anne.

>

>                       Any help would be greatly

> appreciated.

>

>                       Nancy

>

>                       [sorry for delay Nancy-

> caoimhghin]

>

>

>         

>                     

> __________________________________

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> Have you come across a Croghan or Cregan while

doing

>         Creahan research?

> Post it here: Cryan-L@rootsweb.com

> Somebody will thank you!

>

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Subject:          Cryan Questions

From:  "Dermot M Cryan" <dcryan@metlife.com>   Add to Address Book

Date:   Tue, 25 May 2004 13:32:13 -0400

 

 

Kevin, allow me to introduce myself.  I am Dermot Cryan and I am part of the tree that Peter Cryan is perhaps tracing - he is a first cousin of my dad (he is listed as Peter Cryan, "Ave Maria",43 Braemor Rd, Churchtown Dublin 14).  I am trying to do my own research although I live in the U.S. and would be very interested in getting copies of the information that you have already gathered - would it be possible to get copies/ jpeg versions or is this a box full of information that requires on-site work, in which case I'd love to get together with you next time I am home to do a little research.  I don't have an e-mail address for Peter - has he perhaps pursued analyzing some of the info separately?  I think you met my Dad once.  He lives at Killumod crossroads on the Elphin Carrick on Shannon road.

bob cunning" <rcun9703@bigpond.net.au>   Add to Address Book

Date:   Tue, 8 Jun 2004 13:23:19 +1000

To:       CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Subject:          [Cryan et al.] Fw: Catherine Cryan

 

 

Hello from Australia. I am trying to find

relatives of Catherine who came to Australia in 1854. I

have been hampered because on various documents,

her name is shown as CREON/CRANE/CRYAN and even

CRYING

 

Her Death Cert. says that she was born in Mason

County, Maysville, Kentucky, but her Marriage

Cert. shows her birth place as  Roscommon Co. I am

also on the Rosscommon List

 

Any help here would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers, Bob in Melbourne.

Wed, 30 Jun 2004 18:10:29 -0400

From:  probartending@juno.com   Add to Address Book

To:       CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Subject:          [Cryan et al.] Crohan

 

Hi,

Anyone have any Crohans from Dingle? I have more

info.

 

Thanks, Mary

 

 

 

 

 

Wed, 30 Jun 2004 18:10:29 -0400

From: probartending@juno.com  Add to Address Book

To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Subject: [Cryan et al.] Crohan

 

   

Hi,

Anyone have any Crohans from Dingle? I have more

info.

 

Thanks, Mary

 

 

From: Voltene@aol.com  Add to Address Book

Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2004 15:36:23 EDT

To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Subject: [Cryan et al.] John P.Cryan of Lowell, MA

 

   

Found the following article in a local

newspaper...

 

Lowell Sunday Telegram (Lowell, MA)  May 15, 1933

 

 

PEOPLE YOU KNOW

 

One who will be a participant and who is doing

his utmost to make the State

Department of Spanish-American War Veterans

convention here on June 9, 10, 11,

a great success is John P. Cryan, born here April

14, 1874.  Mr. Cryan has

made Lowell his home throughout his life, and in

the public schools of the city

his preliminary education was obtained.

 

After leaving school, the mills of the city

became his place of employment

until 1897,  The declaration of war by the United

States against Spain in 1898

found him in New York.  Hurrying to his home

city, he enlisted in Company G

Sixth Massachussetts Infantry and was detailed to

Camp Alger in Falls Church, VA

and from there he was sent to Porto Rico with the

command.

 

At the close of the war following his honorable

discharge, Mr. Cryan returned

to Lowell and opened a store on Broadway which

continued for several years. 

While in that endeavor he had charge of the

distribution of the Sunday

Telegram in that community and had a squad of

youngsters under his direction in that

duty.

 

Mr. Cryan then took up the vocation of a

travelling salesman, also was

employed by the Turner Centre Creamery for years

following its establishment here,

and during the World War was fixer foreman of the

Capping department in the

plant of the United State Cartridge company. 

After the armistace, Mr. Cryan

resumed his duties as travelling salesman for a

Boston food broker.

 

For a long period he was greatly interested in

adult education, being

president of the Morgan club composed of students

of the University Extension

Division of the State Department of Education

which was the prime mover in having the

largest classes of adult students ever assembled

in this city for the study

of salesmanship, public speaking and advertising.

 

A Democratic candidate for representative in the

14th district last fall, he

is a member of the Democratic city committee and

of the executive committee of

Ward 4.  Other organizations and groups that

claim him as an energetic and

interested member are the following:  Past

commander of the General Adelbert

Ames Camp 19, Spanish War Veterans;  clerk of the

committee of Butler Memorial

committee of the Centennial year; past counsellor

of Lowell council of the

United Commercial Travellers of America and

secretary-treasurer for the past 16

years; was member of the first board of directors

of the C.Y.M.L. of St.

Patrick's church parish and served on that board

for three years; and is member of the

committee for the observance of Memorial Day this

year, representing General

Adelbert Ames camp 19.

 

With the resumption of business activities in

various lines of industry, Mr.

Cryan looks forward to resuming his duties as a

travelling salesman from which

he has been suspended for a period.

 

A hobby of his yet is adult education along lines

that will make the

individual a better citizen.

 

The 25th anniversary of his marriage to Miss Anna

G. O'Reilly of this city

was observed by them in September last.  They

have 9 children, seven boys and

two girls, all of whom are living; James, Frank,

Arthur who is married and

resides in New York; John P. Jr., Catherine,

Alleen, Thomas, Paul and Gerald.  The

family home is at 59 Temple St.

 

 

--- 

Karen (Murphy) Hickey

Nashua, NH

From: "Bob Cunning" <rcun9703@bigpond.net.au>  Add to Address Book

Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2004 22:06:05 +1000

To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Subject: [Cryan et al.] : CREON or CRYAN

 

   

 

 Hello from Melbourne.I have been searching for

many years and now am

asking your help.

 

 My relative is shown as Catherine CRYAN, but on

her marriage Cert. it is

CREON. Father Paul, a farmer. Mother Winifred

(nee Lonsey), place of birth

Roscommon. DOB circa 1838

 

It is said that the family migrated to USA when

Catherine was 'little'.

This  may be true as her death Cert shows

birthplace as Maysville Kentucky.

A  Grand Aunt always said that Catherine was

Irish. Catherine married

Charles

 WELCH in Melbourne in 1855.

 

I do hope someone can assist me

 

. Cheers, Bob.

 

 

From: "Leslie Poche" <fivecents.mom@verizon.net>  View Contact Details 

Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2004 11:17:33 -0400

To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Subject: [Cryan et al.] Early Crean link?

 

   

Please see the message below recently sent to me:

 

 

 

----- Original Message -----

From: "Donald Patterson" <dpatter98@cox.net>

To: <cryan-l-request@rootsweb.com>

Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2004 1:05 AM

Subject: Any link?

 

 

> In my working on my ATKINSON ancestry  I find

reference to a Capt.

> Charles ATKINSON who migrated  from Yorkshire

to a middle county

> in Ireland in circa 1611, His son, Andrew

ATKINSON , in circa 1645

> married a Jean CREAN, dau of Ambrose CREAN,

said to have been

> the Earl of Sligo.  Donald  Patterson

>

 

From: "Stephen Morrison" <morrison@evemail.net>  Add to Address Book

Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2004 15:26:28 +0100

To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Subject: [Cryan et al.] Stephen Crean

 

   

Stephen Crean,  my great- uncle,  was born in

Wales in 1857.  His parents were Irish immigrants

and he was the eldest child in a growing family. 

His father was a mason i.e. a bricklayer and times

were obviously difficult. In spite of this,  he

became an accomplished cornet player and,  in

1879,  he emigrated to New York, and,  on one

occasion at the age of 23,  played a solo in Central

Park, New York.  He went on to have an exceptional

career as a soloist cornet player.

 

Later on,  he moved to Cook County,  Chicago, 

and married a French lady named Stella. I don't

know her surname.  I believe that on 9/20/1913 he

was shot and killed by his business partner.  I was

told much of this by my mother,  who had a great

affection for her Uncle Steve, so much so that

she named me after him.

I have,  for a long time now,  sought information

on my namesake. As many of you know that,  when

investigating your past,  people can become not

exactly flesh and blood, but  tend  to take on

shape and form.  I often think of this newly- arrived

young man playing his cornet in Central Park, and

I would dearly like to know what happened on the

9/20/1913.

 

If anyone can assist me I would be most grateful.

 

Steve                      Stephen Crean Morrison

 

Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2004 10:35:03 -0700 (PDT)

From:  "Nancy Fiore" <nancy_fiore@yahoo.com>  Add to Address Book

To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Subject: [Cryan et al.] Creans from Sligo, Bishop Crean, Bonaparte-Crean

 

   

Hello!

>

> My mother, Rita Crean Oster, says that we are

> originally from Sligo.  We have a Bishop Crean

in

the

> family, and also a Napoleon Bonaparte Crean who

> married Ann ? (possibly Lewis).

>

> Do you know of the Bishop Crean family or the

> Bonaparte family that married a Crean?

>

> You may pass this information to anyone looking

for

> these people.

>

> Thanks so much!

>

> Nancy Fiore

> near Chicago, Illinois, USA

 

From: "Bob Cunning" <rcun9703@bigpond.net.au>  Add to Address Book

Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 01:44:22 +1000

To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Subject: [Cryan et al.] Catherine Cryan

 

   

 

 

 

 

 

Hello from Australia. I am trying to find

relatives of Catherine who came

to  Australia in 1854. I have been hampered

because on various documents,

her name is shown as CREON/CRANE/CRYAN and even

CRYING

 

Her Death Cert. says that she was born in Mason

County, Maysville,

Kentucky,  but her Marriage Cert. shows her birth

place as  Roscommon Co. I

am also

on  the Rosscommon List

 

Any help here would be greatly appreciated.

 

Cheers, Bob in Melbourne.

Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2004 21:29:52 -0500

From: "AnnF" <fountaam@141.com>  Add to Address Book

To: caoimhghin@yahoo.com

Subject: Cryan genealogy

 

   

Hi.

 

I'm a great-granddaughter of Matthew J. Cryan,

who was supposed to have

come over from Ireland around 1885 (haven't found

out exactly when yet).

  His parents were supposed to be Thomas Cryan

and Ann Duignan (sp?).

And he was supposed to live in Frenchlawn,

Roscommon, IRE.  I have heard

from family stories that there were supposed to

be about 6 kids, but I

don't know the names, only that at least one was

a girl. Only Matthew

was supposed to have come to the US, in

childhood, but I don't know if

the parents came with him. Any insight you might

have would be

appreciated.

 

Also, I have pictures of Mary Cryan my gr-aunt

with a Sister M. Germaine

Cryan - who I've seen in US Censuses in the

Kalamazoo area around 1920

but am not sure if she was a relation.  And also

a picture of Mary with

Father Basil Cryan and his sister (no name given

on the back of the

photo).  I'm not sure how/if he was related.

 

:)

Ann Fountain

Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2004 22:04:09 -0500

From: "AnnF" <fountaam@141.com>  Add to Address Book

To: caoimhghin@yahoo.com, johnc@fox.com, ckohnke1@msn.com

Subject: Cryan Roscommon Search

 

   

Saw your e-mails listed as people researching

Cryans in Roscommon Cty.

I was wondering if any of you are looking into

Thomas Cryan and Ann

Duignan possibly from Frenchlawn, Roscommon.  

There were supposed to be

6 children, at least 1 that became a priest, and

at least one was a

daughter.  My ancestor is the son Matthew who

emmigrated to Michigan.

 

:)

Ann

From: "Bob Cunning" <rcun9703@bigpond.net.au>  Add to Address Book

Date: Sun, 29 Aug 2004 01:49:00 +1000

To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Subject: [Cryan et al.] Fw: CREON or CRYAN

 

   

 Hello from Melbourne.I have been searching for

many years and now am

 asking your help.

 

 My relative is shown as Catherine CRYAN, but on

her marriage Cert. it is

CREON. Father Paul, a farmer. Mother Winifred

(nee Lonsey), place of birth

Roscommon. DOB circa 1838

 

It is said that the family migrated to USA when

Catherine was 'little'.

 

This  may be true as her death Cert shows

birthplace as Maysville Kentucky.

 

A  Grand Aunt always said that Catherine was

Irish. Catherine married

Charles   WELCH in Melbourne in 1855.

 

I am also on Roscommon and the appropriate US

lists.

 

 I do hope someone can assist me. Cheers, Bob.

 

From: "Bob Cunning" <rcun9703@bigpond.net.au>  Add to Address Book

Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2004 08:59:15 +1000

To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Subject: [Cryan et al.] Fw: Catherine Cryan

 

   

 

Hello from Australia. I am trying to find

relatives of Catherine who came

to  Australia in 1854. I have been hampered

because on various documents

here, her name is shown as CREON/CRANE/CRYAN and

even CRYING

 

My problem is that I have no idea of Catherine's

maiden name, age, or place

of birth. Here are the conflicting Certificates

all isuued in Australia

where she married an Englishman:

 

Marriage Cert. 1855    Age shown 21 ie born C

1834

                                 Maiden Name   

CREON

                                  Father             

Paul

                                  Mother             

Winifred ( Lonsey)

                                  Born Roscommon

Co.

 

Son's Birth Cert 1877    Age 40 ie born C 1837

                                  Maiden Name   

CRYAN

                                   Born Mayswell

Kentucky USA

 

Death Cert 1907            Age 69 ie born Circa

1838

                                    Maiden Name   

CRANE

                                    Father               

Paul

                            Mother Winifred

(Lawrence)

                     Born Maysville Mason

Co.Kentucky

 

So, there you have all the data that I have. I

suspect that she lied about

her age when married as she was probably only

17/18. The other 2 Certs

indicate her birth as 1837/8

 

If you have any ideas/suggestions, these would be

greatly welcomed. I am

also on th Roscommon list, Kentugky census look

up list and Mason County

list

 

Cheers, Bob

 

From: "Ali Crehan Feeney" <crehan@comcast.net>  Add to Address Book

Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 11:52:35 -0400

To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Subject: [Cryan et al.] I'm stuck! Any bright ideas?

 

   

Fellow researchers,

 

I'm hoping you won't mid this little email asking

for help, because I've hit

a brick wall and my head hurts. Add to that the

fact that my desktop crashed

and burned and took out all my genealogy files,

and you've got a sad little

genealogical spelunker on your hands.

 

Here are the bricks that make up my wall:

 

My great-grandfather, James Crehan, was born

~1861. Family history says he

was born in Hingham, MA, but I am unable to

locate a birth record for him,

though I have located birth records for siblings

before and after him in

Hingham.

 

I have located a marriage certificate for him,

and a newspaper article about

his wedding. (I will send the text of this

article to the list under

separate email)

 

Family history also says that James left his wife

and children shortly after

the birth of my grandfather in 1901; my aunt

knows nothing of where he went,

only that it was "away" and that he was never

heard from again. However,

I've located Hingham's List of Persons Assessed a

Poll Tax records, a yearly

publication - and James appears on that list

until 1909, much to my aunt's

astonishment.

 

I've located the gravestone of my great-great

grandparents; James is not

listed on it.

 

I have no idea how to figure out when James died,

and where. He's my little

mystery, and if I could just get some more

documentation on him I think I

could put a few more pieces together,

 

Any thoughts, bright ideas, flashes of

inspiration or shots in the dark?

They'd all be appreciated!!

 

~ Ali

 

p.s. - I do, of course, have hard copies of

everything that was on my

computer - I'm just frustrated at the thought of

having to recreate my

lovely and helpful database from scratch. Ugh.

From: "Ali Crehan Feeney" <crehan@comcast.net>  Add to Address Book

Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 12:00:34 -0400

To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Subject: [Cryan et al.] Crehan-Lowry (Newspaper article/announcement, Hingham Journal)

 

   

The Hingham Journal, Vol XXXX, No. 6, page 1.

Issue dated February 8, 1889.

 

CREHAN-LOWRY

 

Last Sunday afternoon, at the residence of Rev.

Fr. Gerald Fagan, Mr. James

H. Crehan, the popular proprietor of one of the

carriage stands at the

railroad station, was united in marriage to Miss

Belle Lowry, daughter of

the late William Lowry. Mr. Thomas L. Crehan,

brother of the groom, acted as

groomsman, and Miss Katie A. Fee as bridesmaid.

After the ceremony a

reception was held at the residence of the

bride's mother on Williams

street, Hingham Centre, to which only immediate

relatives of the groom and

bride were invited. At the conclusion of the

reception, Mr. and Mrs. Crehan

proceeded to their new home on North street, near

the corner of Ship street.

 

 

Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 16:52:57 -0400 (Eastern Standard Time)

From: "Maureen McCourt Nantista" <mornan@optonline.net>  Add to Address Book

To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Subject: [Cryan et al.] Re: I'm stuck! Any bright ideas?

 

   

Hello Ali,

 

    I've found your grandfather James H. Crehan

in the 1910 census in

Hingham with his wife Isabella L. and their eight

children - the youngest is

Herbert 8 yrs. old. James' age  is 47 and he's a

railroad flagman.

   

    James H. and Isabella are also in the 1900

census, again in Hingham,

with seven children and James' father Lawrence, a

widower, in the household.

James is 38 and a carriage driver. Lawrence, who

is 66 and a gardener, was

born in Ireland in Oct. 1833 and came to the US

in 1851. James birth is

given as Aug. 1861, and Isabella's as April 1862.

 

    The 1880 census has Lawrence Crehan 44 a

laborer, wife Catherine 46 and

their seven children. James H. is 18 and his

occupation is servant.

 

    I haven't been able to locate James in the

1920 or 1930 censuses, so it

s likely he either died or disappeared in this

time frame.

 

    Hope this brightens your day a bit. I'll

attempt sending the documents

to you off-list since they will be attachments.

 

Maureen Nantista

Huntington, NY

   

From: "Matt&Crystal Hamel" <mchamel@hotmail.com>  Add to Address Book

Date: Fri, 01 Oct 2004 22:03:49 +0000

To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Subject: [Cryan et al.] Michael Crean

 

   

Can anyone tell me how to obtain birth

information for Michael Crean born

February 8, 1854 in Castlegar by Galway?

 

Thank you.

 

Crystal

 

From: Quirke10@aol.com  Add to Address Book

Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 21:41:38 EDT

Subject: (no subject)

To: caoimhghin@yahoo.com

 

   

Hi Caoimhghin-Thanks very much, I would appreciate you

sending my email to your researchers.  It would be a miracle

if they could find out some information for me, I've been

searching for so long.  Thank you again and regards. Denis G. Quirke

From: Quirke10@aol.com  Add to Address Book

Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 12:23:40 EDT

Subject: (no subject)

To: caoimhghin@yahoo.com

 

   

Dear Caoimhghin-I would appreciate your help in trying

to locate members of the Cryan family that were born in the

Manchester area in the 1960's. Their mother's name was Eleanor

Mary Cryan and the fathers name was Michael Joseph Cryan. 

The mother was born in Cork Ireland.  The children were named

Jennifer, Kevin, Michael Anthony  and Sandra.  Two of them were

twins. They moved to Cork City and lived there for a while in the

seventies. Sincerely, Denis G> Quirke email is Quirke10@aol.com

 

 

From: "Thomas Crane" <tccrane@peoplepc.com>  Add to Address Book

Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2004 20:49:49 -0500

To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Subject: [Cryan et al.] Crystal Hamel: Regarding Michael Crean

 

   

Hi Crystal, 

 

Michael Crean "Christened" 08 Feb 1854 to Michael

Crean and Bridget Healy at Castlegar, Galway. 

LDS Batch # 7435110 and Serial Sheet # 70.  

 

Go to any LDS Library and request that they send

for you to Salt Lake City for this record

according to the numbers shown above.  If there is not

an LDS library in your area, then you could write

to Salt Lake directly and request a form to fill

out.  In the event that you do not know, LDS is

the Church of Jesus Christ and the Latter Day

Saints (Mormons).  You will have to fill out a

request form probably pay a few dollars.

 

I wish that I were so lucky in the search for

some of my Crean/Crehan Irish ancestors.

 

Best wishes,

 

Tom Crane

 

 

From: "Ali Crehan Feeney" <crehan@comcast.net>  Add to Address Book

Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2004 09:11:09 -0400

To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Subject: [Cryan et al.] an unexpected boon! 

 

   

This weekend my father presented me with two

boxes he'd had in his attic;

they contained items belonging to my great-uncle

Harry (Henry Lawrence)

Crehan, who passed away in the early eighties.

Dad had forgotten all about

them, but apparently my moaning about my crashed

database jogged his memory.

He assured me that there was probably nothing

worthwhile in those cardboard

boxes, but a very quick perusal has proved him

very wrong.

 

I have found birth certificates, death

certificates, correspondence and

newspaper clippings, including obituaries and a

letter to the editor about

Ada Rehan.

 

The list has been awfully quiet lately, but I

thought I might post up items

of interest as I catalogue them. Would that be ok

with all? If not, just

holler at me. ;)

 

~ Ali

 

Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2004 06:22:22 -0700 (PDT)

From: "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>  Add to Address Book

To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Subject: [Cryan et al.] Eleanor Mary Cryan 

 

   

I would appreciate your help in trying to locate

members of the Cryan family that were born in the

Manchester area in the 1960's. Their mother's

name was

Eleanor Mary Cryan and the fathers name was

Michael

Joseph Cryan.  The mother was born in Cork

Ireland.

The children were named Jennifer, Kevin, Michael

Anthony  and Sandra.  Two of them were twins.

They

moved to Cork City and lived there for a while in

the

seventies.

Sincerely, Denis G> Quirke

 

email: Quirke10@aol.com

 

 

From: "Bob Cunning" <rcun9703@bigpond.net.au>  Add to Address Book

Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2004 09:24:43 +1000

To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Subject: [Cryan et al.] Fw: CREON or CRYAN

 

   

 

  Hello from Melbourne.I have been searching for

many years and now am

 asking  your help.

 

  My relative is shown as Catherine CRYAN, but on

her marriage Cert. it is

  CREON. Father Paul, a farmer. Mother Winifred

(nee Lonsey), place of birth

  Roscommon. DOB circa 1838

 

   It is said that the family migrated to USA

when Catherine was 'little'.

  This  may be true as her death Cert shows

birthplace as Maysville

Kentucky.

 

 A  Grand Aunt always said that Catherine was

Irish. Catherine married

Charles   WELCH in Melbourne in 1855.

 

  I am also on the CRYAN list, Kentucky Censusus

look up and Kentucky Mason

 County lists.

 

  I do hope someone can assist me. Cheers, Bob.

 

From: "Ali Crehan Feeney" <crehan@comcast.net>  Add to Address Book

Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 14:01:43 -0400

To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Subject: [Cryan et al.] "She Was Ada Crehan" - Newspaper Clipping, October 1929

 

   

Below find transcribed a newspaper clipping found

pasted into my great-uncle

Harry's business diary on the page for October

14, 1929. He includes no

heading or page number.

 

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

 

SHE WAS ADA CREHAN

But an Error of a Printer Sent Her Into Fame as

Rehan.

 

To the What Do You Think Editor

   Sir: The Article in "The Sun's Rays" regarding

Ada Rehan's profits from

Broadway lots is entertaining and ought to be

profitable reading to the

younger generation of theater habitues.

   The following well-authenticated tid-bit

should not be allowed to sink

into oblivion. When she made her debut, a

printer's error in her name on the

little white sheet which then constituted a

theater program gave her name to

the world as Ada Rehan. Her real name was Ada

Crehan.

   My uncle, J. Frank Crehan, knew both her and

Augustine Daly intimately.

She told him and several others whom I have

chanced to meet that she was

afraid after her opening night to change to Ada

Crehan. Her debut was

notably successful, and as Ada Rehan she was

hailed as a new star of the

first magnitude, and probably superstition played

as great a part in her

determination to keep the name under which she

had made her opening success.

My uncle always affirmed that her greatest role

was that of Katherine, "the

divine Italian Shrew."

HENRY L. CREHAN

 

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

 

Henry (Harry) Crehan lived in New York City. I

suspect the clipping is from

the Times, but it's really just a guess on my

part.

 

Thought you Cryan-listers might find the article

a bit amusing, if nothing

else. Going through and cataloging Harry's

materials is going to be a long

process, I'm afraid, but as I find things like

this I'd share with the list

if no one objects. :)

 

Also thought I would let you know I've started up

a blog to help me keep

myself organized and on track. I cannot give this

project my full-time

attention, as many different concerns pull me in

many different direction,s

but I'm gfoing to give it whatever I can!

 

Cheers,

Ali Crehan Feeney

http://crehan.blogspot.com

 

 

From: "Ali Crehan Feeney" <crehan@comcast.net>  Add to Address Book

Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2004 08:34:05 -0500

To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Subject: [Cryan et al.] Obituary - Herbert F. Crehan

 

   

Source: Quincy Patriot Ledger, Thursday, November

16, 1950

 

Braintree, Massachusetts -

 

Herbert F. Crehan, 49, of 153 Middle street,

Braintree, husband of Mrs.

Ruperta A. (Skelton) Crehan, died this morning at

South Shore hospital,

Weymouth, after a brief illness.

Born in Hingham, he had lived in Edgehill road,

East Braintree, for 14 years

before moving to Middle street. He had been

employed by Howard Johnson's for

the last three years and had been employed by the

Fore River shipyard for 14

years previously.

Besides his wife, he is survived by two children,

Ann and Herbert Jr.; four

sisters, Mrs. Otis E. Dunham of Beverly, Cal;

Mrs. Richard W. Luce of

Bradford, Vermont; Miss Isabel Crehan and Miss

Elizabeth Crehan, both of

East Braintree, and two brothers, Dr. Henry L.

Crehan of New York city and

Frederick L. Crehan of Maplewood, N.J.

A solemn high mass of requiem will be celebrated

in St. Thomas More church,

Braintree, Saturday morning at 9 o'clock. Burial

will be in St. Paul's

cemetery, Hingham. The funeral will be from the

Joseph R. Lucid Funeral

home, 14 Quincy avenue, East Braintree, at 8

o'clock.

 

From: "Ali Crehan Feeney" <crehan@comcast.net>  Add to Address Book

Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2004 13:35:53 -0500

To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Subject: [Cryan et al.] James Cryan

 

   

I have received in today's mail copies of the

records for James Cryan from

Bridgewater State Hospital. Special thanks to

Eve, Maureen and Judy for the

census information that gave me this lead to

pursue.

 

Unfortunately for me, he's definitely not my

elusive great-grandfather James

H. Crehan. I'm posting this information to the

list in the event that it

might be helpful to another researcher.

 

James Cryan was born about 1868 in Ireland, and

is the son of Andrew and

Mary (Loftus). He died in October 21, 1948 at the

hospital at the age of 80.

Records indicate that James Cryan was married and

previously resided in

Lynn, Massachusetts, although I cannot find any

reference to his wife's

name.

 

If this rings any bells for anyone out there,

please drop me a line; I would

be pleased to pass along these records to any

descendants. They include a

death certificate and photographs of James Cryan.

 

~ Ali Crehan Feeney

crehan@comcast.net

rupiezum@yahoo.com

From: "Bob Cunning" <rcun9703@bigpond.net.au>  Add to Address Book

Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2004 00:17:17 +1100

To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Subject: [Cryan et al.] Catherine Cryan

 

   

 

 Hello from Australia. I am trying to find

relatives of Catherine who came

to  Australia in 1854. I have been hampered

because on various documents

here, her name is shown as  CREON/CRANE/CRYAN and

even CRYING

 

 My problem is that I have no idea of Catherine's

maiden name, age, or place

of birth. Here are the conflicting Certificates

all isuued in Australia

where she married an Englishman:

 

 Marriage Cert. 1855    Age shown 21 ie born C

1834

                                  Maiden Name   

CREON

                                   Father             

Paul

                                   Mother             

Winifred ( Lonsey)

                                   Born Roscommon

Co.

 

 Son's Birth Cert 1877    Age 40 ie born C 1837

                                     Maiden Name   

CRYAN

                                     Born

Mayswell Kentucky USA

 

 Death Cert 1907            Age 69 ie born Circa

1838

                                     Maiden Name   

CRANE

                                     Father               

Paul

                                     Mother

Winifred (Lawrence)

                                    Born

Maysville Mason Co.Kentucky

 

 So, there you have all the data that I have. I

suspect that she lied about

her age when married as she was probably only

17/18. The other 2 Certs

indicate her birth as 1837/8

 

 If you have any ideas/suggestions, these would

be greatly welcomed. I am

also on the Roscommon list, Kentugky census look

up list and Mason County

list. There are some entries, close, but not

exact. The one consistent thing

is that Catherine's mother's name is Winifred.

 

 Cheers, Bob

 

From: K.McElrath@Queens-Belfast.AC.UK  View Contact Details 

Subject: Re: [Cryan et al.] James Cryan

Date: 07 Nov 2004 23:52:32 +0000

To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

 

   

hello: i have a james cryan who resided as a

child in wareham,

massachusetts (and whose aunt - also a cryan -

married a feeney in same). i

know that lynn is a good distance from wareham,

but the wareham cryans had

links with the swampscott cryans. i understand

that swampscott mass is

adjacent to lynn, mass. i would be most

appreciative if you could send me a

photocopy of the death cert and photo of james. i

can reimburse for

photocopy and postage. if you reside in the US, i

can provide my dad's

address in NY which would reduce postage costs.

many thanks for this info,

karen

 

On Nov 5 2004, Ali Crehan Feeney wrote:

 

> I have received in today's mail copies of the

records for James Cryan

> from Bridgewater State Hospital. Special thanks

to Eve, Maureen and Judy

> for the census information that gave me this

lead to pursue.

>

> Unfortunately for me, he's definitely not my

elusive great-grandfather

> James H. Crehan. I'm posting this information

to the list in the event

> that it might be helpful to another researcher.

>

> James Cryan was born about 1868 in Ireland, and

is the son of Andrew and

> Mary (Loftus). He died in October 21, 1948 at

the hospital at the age of

> 80. Records indicate that James Cryan was

married and previously resided

> in Lynn, Massachusetts, although I cannot find

any reference to his

> wife's name.

>

> If this rings any bells for anyone out there,

please drop me a line; I

> would be pleased to pass along these records to

any descendants. They

> include a death certificate and photographs of

James Cryan.

>

> ~ Ali Crehan Feeney

> crehan@comcast.net

> rupiezum@yahoo.com

>

>

>

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From: "Bob Cunning" <rcun9703@bigpond.net.au>  Add to Address Book

Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2004 13:12:55 +1100

To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Subject: [Cryan et al.] Fw: Catherine Cryan

 

   

 

 

  Hello from Australia. I am trying to find

relatives of Catherine who came

 to  Australia in 1854. I have been hampered

because on various documents

 here, her name is shown as  CREON/CRANE/CRYAN

and even CRYING

 

  My problem is that I have no idea of

Catherine's maiden name, age, or

place

 of birth. Here are the conflicting Certificates

all isuued in Australia

 where she married an Englishman:

 

  Marriage Cert. 1855    Age shown 21 ie born C

1834

                                   Maiden Name   

CREON

                                    Father             

Paul

                                    Mother              

Winifred ( Lonsey)

                                    Born

Roscommon Co.

 

  Son's Birth Cert 1877    Age 40 ie born C 1837

                                      Maiden Name   

CRYAN

                                      Born

Mayswell Kentucky USA

 

  Death Cert 1907            Age 69 ie born Circa

1838

                                      Maiden Name   

CRANE

                                      Father               

Paul

                                      Mother

Winifred (Lawrence)

                                     Born

Maysville Mason Co.Kentucky

 

  So, there you have all the data that I have. I

suspect that she lied about

 her age when married as she was probably only

17/18. The other 2 Certs

 indicate her birth as 1837/8

 

  If you have any ideas/suggestions, these would

be greatly welcomed. I am

 also on the Roscommon list, Kentugky census look

up list and Mason County

 list. There are some entries, close, but not

exact. The one consistent

thing

 is that Catherine's mother's name is Winifred.

 

  Cheers, Bob

 

 

 

==== CRYAN Mailing List ====

   Crean family motto:

Cor mundum crea in me Deus

 

 

From: "Bob Cunning" <rcun9703@bigpond.net.au>  Add to Address Book

Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2004 21:09:08 +1100

To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Subject: [Cryan et al.] CREON or CRYAN

 

   

 

 

   Hello from Melbourne.I have been searching for

many years and now am

  asking  your help.

 

   My relative is shown as Catherine CRYAN, but

on her marriage Cert. it is

   CREON. Father Paul, a farmer. Mother Winifred

(nee Lonsey), place of

birth

   Roscommon. DOB circa 1838

 

    It is said that the family migrated to USA

when Catherine was 'little'.

   This  may be true as her death Cert shows

birthplace as Maysville

Kentucky.

 

  A  Grand Aunt always said that Catherine was

Irish. Catherine married

Charles   WELCH in Melbourne in 1855.

 

   I am also on the ROSCOMMDN , Kentucky Censusus

look up and Kentucky Mason

County lists.

 

  I do hope someone can assist me. Cheers, Bob.

 

From: "Patrick Cryans" <pat@pcryans.fsnet.co.uk>  Add to Address Book

Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2004 17:24:08 -0000

To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Subject: [Cryan et al.] POOR LAW RECORDS

 

   

Hi

Can anyone help me? i am trying to find where i

can access the Poor Law records for Boyle( which

also covers part of South Sligo about 1840-1850.

Patrick)

 

From: "Thomas Crane" <tccrane@peoplepc.com>  Add to Address Book

Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2004 00:13:00 -0600

To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Subject: [Cryan et al.] Fw: Something To Pass The Time

 

   

 

 

 

Greetings Fellow Listers,

 

Since you all seem to be such a loving and

understanding group of people, I thought that I would

forward a message that I sent to another person on

another list.  The subject matter had been old

time radio and the various programs that, as

children, we all listened to.  If anything, I would

just like to evoke some emotional understanding,

which you all no doubt have as you conduct your own

research, towards the genealogical process that

we all enjoy.

 

Best wishes,

 

Tom Crane

 

 

 

Don, I do believe in everything that you say. If

you do not mind, I wish to elaborate a bit on

what you did say about the creative process and

imagination and especially as it applies to

genealogy.    

 

As one delves into the genealogical process, one

has to have an imaginative mind otherwise, it

becomes nothing more than fitting together of pieces

in a puzzle.  In terms of roots or genealogy, a

pattern appears to develop in the thinking of a

person who indulges in such endeavors as they are

not only able to become involved in the past but

rather they begin to understand the placement of

one's own ancestors in the context of the

conditions under which they once lived. 

 

As far as I am concerned, the movie, "Somewhere

In Time," was not only a love story that took

place over time, but an exercise in the genealogical

process.  Although the character that was played

by Christopher Reeve appeared to travel back in

time in order to meet the beautiful Jane Seymour,

he did, in reality, engage in the genealogical

process in order to place himself in that time

warp.  In order to accomplish this task, he had to

know or understand what life might have been like

in that era of the past.   He did not simply

recreate the past, rather, he lived it.

 

When one stands before the burial place of some

long forgotten ancestor and reads the inscription

written on a tombstone, does one merely copy the

time and place or does one conjure up the image

of the person who might have been?  Remember, it

will not be long before the person who gazes down

upon that grave will someday occupy a similar

resting place and for all of eternity.  What

memories of the past will that person who occupies that

grave wish to convey to someone in the future

other than the inscription that is written on his or

her tomb? 

 

Picture a child hiding in a bomb shelter beneath

the ground seeking shelter from the bombs that

are not only destroying his home, but his country

as well.  His only contact with the outside world

comes in the form of a radio program beamed

across the ocean from a place where children are

safely tucked in a nice warm bed.  What memories does

that radio program evoke from the past in that

person's mind and even more importantly, will

someone from the future even be able to understand? 

Will some genealogist simply record his name on a

chart along side of others or will they attempt

to know the child that once was and the

"shadows"of his past?  (* Here I made reference to "The

Shadow" radio program which someone had listened to

during the Battle of Britain in the Second World

War).

 

Another person wrote on this website that they

lived in the country where no electricity was

available, hence, they did not have the pleasure of

listening to a childhood radio program.  In effect,

that person asked if he might have been deprived

of that pleasure while others conveyed great

delight in re-creating or discussing radio programs

from the past.  Might we then might ask some Amish

child if he felt deprived because he lived where

only the rudiments of modern day society exist. 

His father plows the ground with horses in a

fashion that his Amish ancestors did hundreds of

years ago.  To delve into genealogy one must have the

imagination to try to understand what it is that

an Amish person experiences as he looks and prays

to his God while, at the same time, relinquishing

all of the outside distractions that could

possibly diminish his subservience to his Creator.

 

Henry Z. Jones, Jr. has written a rather

enlightening book that has to do with the imaginative or

psychic process in genealogy.  The title of his

book is, "More Psychic Roots" and is sub-titled,

"Further Adventures in Serendipity & Intuition in

Genealogy."   Mr. Jones has given me the honor

and pleasure of his having quoted from my own book

as to some of the experiences that I had in

searching for my own family's past.  While my book is

posted on the WWW for all to read, "Free Of

Charge," I will, never-the-less withhold its title

only to say that it can be researched by merely

entering my name; that is, Thomas J. Crane.  I

mention this to you because I do believe whole-hardly

that there is dimension beyond that which exists

within our everyday lives.  By using one's

imagination, because it is through this process that the

mind begins to explore avenues that others might

not even know exist, one can slip the bounds

limit us.

 

In closing, I am reminded of a television program

that was once popular many years ago.  The name

of the program was, "Dragnet," and the character

of Sergeant Friday was played by Jack Webb.  One

of the most famous lines that came from that

program was, "Just the facts, Mam; just the facts." 

This leads me to ask, will we simply employ

Officer Friday's methodology in the recording of

genealogical information or will we seek to know and to

understand the person whose name that we are

recording?

 

Best wishes to All,

 

Tom Crane

From: "Bob Cunning" <rcun9703@bigpond.net.au>  Add to Address Book

Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2005 23:46:01 +1100

To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Subject: [Cryan et al.] Catherine Cryan

 

   

 

   Hello from Australia. I am trying to find

relatives of Catherine who came

to  Australia in 1854. I have been hampered

because on various documents

here, her name is shown as  CREON/CRANE/CRYAN and

even CRYING

 

 My problem is that I have no idea of Catherine's

maiden name, age, or

place  of birth. Here are the conflicting

Certificates all isuued in

Australia   where she married an Englishman:

 

   Marriage Cert. 1855    Age shown 21 ie born C

1834

                                    Maiden Name   

CREON

                                     Father             

Paul

                                     Mother             

Winifred ( Lonsey)

                                     Born

Roscommon Co.

 

   Son's Birth Cert 1877    Age 40 ie born C 1837

                                       Maiden

Name    CRYAN

                                       Born

Mayswell Kentucky USA

 

   Death Cert 1907            Age 69 ie born

Circa 1838

                                       Maiden

Name    CRANE

                                       Father               

Paul

                                       Mother

Winifred (Lawrence)

                                      Born

Maysville Mason Co.Kentucky

 

 So, there you have all the data that I have. I

suspect that she lied about

her age when married as she was probably only

17/18. The other 2 Certs

indicate her birth as 1837/8

 

 If you have any ideas/suggestions, these would

be greatly welcomed. I am

also on the Roscommon list, Kentugky census look

up list and Mason County

list. There are some entries, close, but not

exact. The one consistent

thing   is that Catherine's mother's name is

Winifred.

 

Cheers, Bob

 

 

Daniel Cryan" <dancryan@msn.com>  Add to Address Book

To:

"Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>

Subject:

Re: Parents of Austin R. Cryan of Buffalo, NY (Erie County)

Date:

Thu, 13 Jan 2005 21:40:17 -0500

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Kevin,

 

You mentioned on your web page that you have the Famine Immigrant List (Cryan and variants) arriving at Port of New York 1846-1851.

 

Is there a Sarah or Jane Cryan on any of those ships heading to NY?

 

Dan

----- Original Message -----

From: Caoimhghin O Croidheain

To: Daniel Cryan

Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 7:43 AM

Subject: Re: Parents of Austin R. Cryan of Buffalo, NY (Erie County)

 

Hi Daniel

Thanks for your mail. Basically, I put every bit of

info I have on my site.

The name Austin is relatively unusual and any mentions

of an Austin could be important as names ran down the

various siblings in even families that split between

countries.

I notice one Austin in the Cryan deaths list.

Have you gone through the cryan list archive files on

my site?

http://geocities.com/caoimhghin/familyhistory.html

There are nearly 1500 A4 pages of information

contained in these files.

Try searching the keywords [esp Austin] you have given

me.

Are you on the cryan list? the reseachers there are

very helpful...

Any Cryan and variants info is valuable.

Please do put all you know on the list or send it to

me for the archive as you never know when someone will

find connections [back to you] in the future. Any

American material would be great to have.

regards

caoimhghin

I generally dont put info from mails sent directly to

me in the archive as they are not in the public domain

and may contain personal material [unless asked to do

so]. So if you join the list [which is free] and

resend then I can put everything on my site.

 

 

 

--- Daniel Cryan <dancryan@msn.com> wrote:

 

> Kevin,

>

> Happy New Year.  I recently came across your

> CRYAN\CREAN RESEARCH, HISTORY AND GENEALOGIES  web

> page at

http://www.geocities.com/caoimhghin/genabs.html<http://www.geocities.com/caoimhghin/genabs.html>.

>

> I noticed that you have a wealth of information at

> your finger tips and was hoping we could help each

> other out.    I spent a few days in Washington DC at

> the National Archives trying to find out information

> on my GG Grandparents, specifically my Great

> Grandfather, Austin Cryan's, parents.  His wife

> Josephine may have parents from Ireland as well (at

> least 1 side).  I can't even find out what ship they

> came over on. 

>

>  I have spent countless hours conducting research.

> The Cryan lineage is a bit harder to trace due in

> part to the lack of records during the move from

> Ireland to the US.  Below is a summary of what I

> have so far. I can't tell you how much it would mean

> if you could help me find out the missing links.  I

> have spent countless days and hours on the web and

> at the National Archives in Washington DC.

> 

>

> Here we go.

>

> 

>

> Austin R. Cryan was born (I believe in Buffalo), 19

> April 1881.  The censuses between 1900 and 1930 list

> his birth as either 1880/1. 

>

> 

>

> On 10 October 1906 Austin married Josephine Griffin

> in Buffalo NY.  Austin was 25 and Josephine was 18

> when they were married.

>

> 

>

> Josephine was born 3 Nov 1886 in Buffalo. Her

> parents are Thaddeus Griffin and Ellen Gartlet. 

>

> 

>

> According to his obituary he was a Mechanic

> (Shipyard, reportedly Crystal Beach boat. Retired

> after 30 years in 1923).

>

> 

>

> Children of Austin and Josephine:

>

>             John Griffin Cryan - born April 1907,

> died 1957

>

>             Robert Thomas Cryan, born 12 Nov 1908,

> died 28 Aug 1995.

>

> 

>

> Austin died at 3pm on 12 May 1931 at the age 50

> years and 23 days.  His death certificate listed

> cause of death as Mitra stenosis and acute

> gastritis. IT IS HIS PARENTS I'M TRYING TO FIND INFO

> ON.

>

> 

>

> Josephine died 19 November 1959. INFO ON HER PARENTS

> WOULD BE GREAT TOO>

>

> 

>

> Their last address was listed as 28 Knox Ave.

>

> 

>

> 

>

> Here's where I need help.  According to the census

> data, Austin's parents came from the Irish Free

> State - IRELAND.  I have been told that his Dad's

> name was Robert Austin (cannot find a scrap of info

> on - I'm not even sure that is his name) and his

> Mothers name may have been Sarah (possibly Sarah

> Otis).

>

> POTENTIAL MOTHERS BASED ON CENSUS DATA:

>

> 

>

> 1. J (possibly Jane, was hard to read) Cryan.

> (Buffalo, Erie Co.):

>

> Per the 1900 Census, Jane S. Cryan (could that S be

> Sarah?) was living at 70 Myrtle Ave and was listed

> as the head of the household.  She was born in 1865

> or 1866 and according to the 1900 census (taken 8

> June 1900)she  was 34 years of age and widowed.  She

> migrated to the US in 1873.  The following children

> were listed as living with her: Austin R or S - 20,

> Julia R - 12, Mary E. - 13, Michael - 14, Thomas -

> 8, John J - 6, and William H, 2.  Accordingly, this

> Austin would have been born around 1880 (Could be

> our Austin Cryan). (Roll T623-1025, Page 7B, ED 25.

>

> 

>

> 2. Sarah Cryan. (Buffalo, Erie Co.):

>

> Per the 1920 census Sarah Cryan was the head of the

> household. She was widowed and had migrated to the

> US in 1879.  It listed her at about 55 years of age.

>  Living with her were two sons (Michael age 31, and

> Joseph age 27) and two Daughters (Mary, age 33 and

> Julie age 35). Also living with her were Mary's

> children, William - 14, Catherine - 12, Lillian - 8,

> and Florence - 6).  Mary was also listed as widowed

> and her last name was listed as Gallavin or Galvin.

> (Roll T625-1100, Page 15B, ED 32, image 32).

>

> 

>

> In the 1930 census, Mary Gallavan, daughter of

> Sarah, was then listed as the head of the household

> at 342 Myrtle Ave.  Sarah, then 65 as well as her

> son Joseph still lived with her as well as Mary's

> children Catherine, Lillian and Florence. Joseph was

> listed as a handyman at a crockery factory.  (Roll

> 1424, ED 36, Image 339, sheet 17A)

>

> 

>

> Could Jane S be the same as Sarah? The ages are

> about the same.  The names and ages for the children

> are about right as well.  If Austin was married

> before the 1910 census, he wouldn't have shown up

> with Sarah Cryan in the 1920 census, so this seems

> to fit as well.

>

> 

>

> I need names or any other information you can gather

> on our great-great (or just great) grandparents.

> Who are Austin's parents?  If it is Jane/Sarah, who

> was her husband?

>

> 

>

> Again, I would appreciate any information you can

> gather (even copies of old pictures). 

>

>

>

> I will be going to the archives again in the next

> month or so. If I can research anything for you as

> well, let me know.

>

> 

>

> Dan Cryan

 

 

"Ali Crehan Feeney" <crehan@comcast.net>  Add to Address Book

Date:

Fri, 14 Jan 2005 16:45:35 -0500

To:

CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Subject:

[Cryan et al.] roll call!

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Over on Rootsweb's Irish American list, they are

doing a roll call - and I

thought to myself, Self, I would love to see a

roll call on the Cryan list!

Things have been a bit quiet here lately, so why

not ask everyone to speak

up and remind the list who they're researching?

You never know, you might

see something that piques your interest.....

 

Here's how it works:

Subject: Surname, state(s)

Body of message: short roll call about where the

ancestor originated

and to what states they emigrated. Use just

surname, years and if they

went from state to state use >> between.

ie Smith, 1880s, NY >> 1890s OH >> 1905 CA

If you want to put in city and/or county, that

will be fine.

 

~ Ali

Ali Crehan Feeney" <crehan@comcast.net>  Add to Address Book

Date:

Fri, 14 Jan 2005 16:45:36 -0500

To:

CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Subject:

[Cryan et al.] Crehan, Massachusetts

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My Crehans appear to have originated in Co.

Galway and came over here to

Massachusetts in the first half of the 1850s, so:

 

Crehan, Co. Galway >> 1850s, Massachusetts

 

~ Ali

Quincy, MA

Fri, 14 Jan 2005 17:24:15 -0800 (PST)

From:

 "Nancy Fiore" <nancy_fiore@yahoo.com>  Add to Address Book

To:

CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Subject:

[Cryan et al.] Roll Call for Crean

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This is my first time doing a roll call.

 

Contact me at nancy_fiore@yahoo.com

 

O'Crean/Crean/Crane/Creen, (married Lewis,

Decker,

Dillon, Miller, Roach, Lally) 1820s, Sligo, Mayo,

and

Dublin, Ireland >> London, England >> Dublin,

Ireland

>> 1851 NY, USA >> 1856 Chicago, Cook, IL, USA >>

Crean, Roach (NY) 1890s CO >> CA, OR, IA, NY

 

O'Hara (married Crean, Miehe (MO)) 1820s Sligo

and

Leitrim, Ireland >> St. Timothy Village,

Beauharnois,

Montreal, Quebec, >> 1840s Buffalo, NY, USA >>

1870s

>> St. Louis, MO >> Chicago, Cook, IL

 

 

Sat, 15 Jan 2005 07:09:52 -0800 (PST)

From:

 "Nancy Fiore" <nancy_fiore@yahoo.com>  Add to Address Book

To:

CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Subject:

[Cryan et al.] Roll Call

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Updated.

 

Contact me at nancy_fiore@yahoo.com

 

O'Crean/Crean/Crane/Crain/Creen, (married Lewis,

Decker, Dillon, Miller, Roach, Lally, Blanchfield

or

Lee) 1820s, Sligo, Mayo, and Dublin, Ireland >>

London, England >> Dublin, Ireland >> 1851 NY,

USA >>

1856 Chicago, Cook, IL, USA >> Crean, Roach (NY)

1890s

Denver, Pueblo, Arapahoe, CO >> New Orleans, LA

>> NY,

CA, OR, and Midwest Area(MN, WI, MI, IN, IA) USA 

 

O'Hara (married Crean, Miehe (MO)) 1820s Sligo

and

Leitrim, Ireland >> St. Timothy Village,

Beauharnois,

Montreal, Quebec, >> 1840s Buffalo, NY, USA >>

1870s

>> St. Louis, MO >> Chicago, Cook, IL

 

Karen McElrath" <k.mcelrath@qub.ac.uk>  View Contact Details

Subject:

Re: [Cryan et al.] roll call!

Date:

Sun, 16 Jan 2005 14:40:19 +0000 (GMT Standard Time)

To:

CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

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Cryan, Patrick and Catherine Conlon Cryan

1820-1860, Brogher

Townland, County Sligo.  Children:  Patrick,

Martin, and

Bridget, 1840-1900 > Taunton, Wareham, Somerset

and Swampscott,

Massachusetts > Mercer County, PA (named changed

to CRAIN for PA

line)

Paul Cryan" <paulcryan@eircom.net>  Add to Address Book

Date:

Mon, 17 Jan 2005 01:31:42 -0000

To:

CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Subject:

[Cryan et al.] Cryan [ Et. Al.] roll cal

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Cryan, James, Townland Sroove,Town

Monasterradeen, County Sligo. to England 1840s

County Durham married Sarah McMahon 1858,to USA

1870. to Lowell MA.

    Brothers Timothy, Michael, Thomas  and sister

Mary (O'Flahaven in Lowell MA.

brother John Stayed in Ireland.

    Children of James and Sarah were James, Anne,

Mary, Bridget ,Catherine

John Philip,  and Alexander.

Mon, 17 Jan 2005 08:09:11 -0800 (PST)

From:

 "edna fuller" <fuller_edna@yahoo.com>  Add to Address Book

To:

CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Subject:

[Cryan et al.] Cryan Roll Call

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Great Idea Ali!

 

Cryan, James b:1805-1815?, Sroove,

Monasteraden,Co

Sligo,M;Mary Phillips,immigrated to Lowell, Ma.

Child of James- John Cryan,b: 1851, Sroove, D:

1927,

Sroove, Ireland Monasteraden, Co Sligo.

M: Honoria Lavin(Lannon)B: 1844, Ireland

Children:

Thomas, B: 1869,d: ?, Sroove, Ireland buried in

Monasteraden, Ireland

 

Mary B: 1870, Sroove,D: 1942, San Francisco, Ca

 

Bridget,B1873 Sroove (Can't find her)

 

Agnes b: 1874, Sroove, M: Michael

Casey,04-10-1899Kilnamanagh, FrenchPark,

Roscommon,

Ireland

 

Michael b: 09-13-1874 D:? , buried in Cemetery,

Monasteraden, Ireland

 

Honora (Winey) b: 08-26-1877 Sroove, M: Lawrence

Lydon

10-25-1900 Ballaghaderreen, Immigrated to San

Francisco, d: 04-1961 Belmont, Ca

 

John b:1880 Sroove, m: Mary ?, immigrated to

Lowell,

Ma, lived in New York in 1915, but can't find him

 

Anne b: 08-111,1882 Sroove, immigrated to Lowell,

Ma,

then back to Ireland, m: John Conway 09-19-1910,

Ballaghaderreen, d: 10-19-1957 Townagbrack,

Monasteraden, Co Sligo

 

James J. (Crane) b: 11-18-1884 Sroove, never

married,

immigrated to New York in 1915, lived in Montana,

Seattle, Wa, then San Francisco, Ca, d:

10-15-1968,

San Francisco, Ca.

 

I have more on the rest of John's grandchildren

ect,

but could be typing for days.

 

 

(grandaughter of Honora (Winey) Cryan)

Edna Lydon Fuller

San Mateo, Ca.

"Leslie Poche" <fivecents.mom@verizon.net>  View Contact Details

Date:

Mon, 17 Jan 2005 18:38:09 -0500

To:

CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Subject:

[Cryan et al.] Fw: {not a subscriber} Massachusetts Crehan lookups

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----- Original Message -----

From: "Ali Crehan Feeney"

<alisonfeeney@comcast.net>

To: "CRYAN-L" <CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com>

Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 9:45 PM

Subject: {not a subscriber} Massachusetts Crehan

lookups

 

 

> Hi all,

> thought I'd put this out to  the list - I'm

getting to the Massachusetts

> State Archives about once a month and am slowly

working my way through all

> the records for Crehans that I can find. If you

have any lookups you'd

> like

> to have me check out, drop me a line. No

guarantees on how long it'll take

> me to get it for you, but there's my offer. ;)

> ~ Ali Crehan Feeney

> Quincy MA

>

<probartending@juno.com>  Add to Address Book

Date:

Tue, 18 Jan 2005 13:50:33 GMT

To:

CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Subject:

[Cryan et al.] Crohan from Kerry

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Anyone have any Crohans from Kerry?

 

Thanks, Mary

"Jamie K. Zbyrowski" <bchbabe@comcast.net>  Add to Address Book

Subject:

Re: [Cryan et al.] roll call!

Date:

Mon, 31 Jan 2005 10:04:51 -0500

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My great-grandfather, Bernard Cryan, was 

probably born sometime in the

1870's in the Roscommon area and migrated in the

1890's to the US through

the port of New York and settled in Buffalo, New

York.  He married Bridgett

Ryan from Tipperary.  They had 5 children: Helen,

Claire, Mary, Anna and

Francis (my

grandfather).

 

Any information on Bernard's ancestors or

descendents would be greatly

appreciated.

 

Best regards,

 

Jamie K. Cryan

Ali Crehan Feeney" <crehan@comcast.net>  Add to Address Book

Date:

Tue, 15 Mar 2005 13:09:52 -0500

To:

CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Subject:

[Cryan et al.] William J. Crehan

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Does anyone has a connection with William J.

Crehan, born in Attleboro,

Massachusetts on 11 November 1891? Father's name

is John, mother's name is

Mary Maxcey, sister is  Annie Crehan and brother

is James Crehan.

 

If you have a connection, please email me. I have

received documents on

William which may be helpful or of interest to

you.

 

Thanks!

Ali Crehan Feeney

Quincy, Massachusetts

 

Fri, 18 Mar 2005 18:05:27 -0800 (PST)

From:

 "edna fuller" <fuller_edna@yahoo.com>  Add to Address Book

To:

CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Subject:

[Cryan et al.] Cryans from Sroove

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I have two mysteries that I cannot solve and

thought

maybe someone could help.

 

My Great Grand Parents

 

John "Sony" Cryan, B: 1851, M: Honoria(Nora)

Lavin

(Lannon), lived in Sroove,Monasteraden, Co Sligo,

Ireland.  They had the following children:

 

Thomas

B: Jan 1869, Sroove, died as an infant, buried in

St

Aiden's cemetery, Monasteraden, Ireland

 

Mary

B:Jul 03, 1870, immigrated to the US, never

married,

D: 1942, San Francisco, California

 

Bridget

B: Jan 26, 1873

( I cannot find any record of her after her

Baptismal

Record)

 

Agnes

B: 1874,M: Michael Casey,Lived in Frenchpark,

Ireland

(No other records for her)

 

Michael

B: Sept 1874, D: as an infant, buried in St

Aiden's

cemetery with Honoria

 

Nora,

B: Aug 26, 1877, M: Lawrence Lydon in 1900,

immigrated

to the US, D: 1961 Belmont California

(My Grandparents)

 

John

B: 1880, immigrated to the US in 1900, was living

with

James Cryan (Brother to John "sony" Cryan) in

lowell

Mass, M: Mary ?  They were living in New York in

1915

when James Joseph Cryan immigrated to the US.

(I can find no further records about them)

 

Anne

B: Aug 11, 1882, M: John Conway, lived in

Moygara,

Ireland,D: Oct 19, 1957

 

James Joseph

B: Nov 1884, immigrated to the US in 1915, D: Oct

15,

1968, San Francisco, California

 

I have hit a brick wall for Bridget, John and

Agnes,

so I thought I would put it out to the Cryan list

to

see if anyone can help

 

Edna Lydon Fuller

Fri, 15 Apr 2005 13:48:50 -0400

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Welcome, Beth and your sister!  Beth mailed me

the following a day or two ago, and I am re-posting

for her so that everyone can share the info

enclosed.  She's now a subscriber, so feel free to

respond through the list or to her directly.

 

From: "Beth" <beth326@verizon.net>

>>>> Hi my name is Beth

>>>> My grandmothers name is Bessie E. Cryan my

mother said her name was

>>>> Bridget E. Cryan but they called her Bessie

>>>> 

>>>> She came to this country from county Sligo,

Boyle, Brougher.

>>>> 

>>>> She came to the USA via Queenstown in 1903

by the manifest and it states

>>>> coming to see sister Kate and a Mrs. Thomas

Jordan in Swampscott

>>>> Massachusetts.

>>>> 

>>>> Her birthdate is anywhere from 1876 to 1880.

>>>> 

>>>> Her fathers name

>>>> Thomas Cryan

>>>> Mother:

>>>> Mary or Margaret Cryan ( we do not have a

maiden name for her)

>>>> Brothers:

>>>> Patrick

>>>> James

>>>> and we beleive sister Kate or Catherine

>>>> 

>>>> Her brothers and sister came to the USA and

resided in Lynn and

>>>> Swampscott

>>>> Massachusetts.

>>>> Her parents were deceased in Ireland at

least thats what the manifest

>>>> stated.

>>>> She married my grandfather Philip Fraher

from Limerick Ireland but they

>>>> met in this country.

>>>> We are trying to find out her birthdate but

are having a hard time.  We

>>>> have called Ireland and they stated unless

you have a mothers maiden

>>>> name

>>>> its almost impossible to find.

>>>> 

>>>> On her marriage cert. she only has her

fathers name is Thomas Cryan

>>>> and her mother is Mary Cryan (again no

maiden name). It only states

>>>> where

>>>> she was born was Ireland.

>>>> 

>>>> On her death cert. same exact information.  

She passed away in August

>>>> of

>>>> 1947.

>>>> 

>>>> We are in the process of having a stone put

on the grave site with all

>>>> the

>>>> names of deceased and there dates of birth

and deaths.

>>>> My grandmother is the only one we are having

a hard time with.

>>>> 

>>>> My parents are also deceased and there is no

other family to check

>>>> information with on this.

>>>> 

>>>> Any help you can give us would so much

appreciated.

>>>> 

>>>> Thanks so much Beth

>>>> 

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To:

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Subject:

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Welcome Beth,

Although we are not very active we still read all

and contribute when we can.

You may find it interesting to look at the 1901

census on the website

hhtp://www.leitrim-roscommon.com

Insert Broher in the townland part and Sligo in

the county of the search page and you will find

John Cryan  aged 24 and his sister Bridget aged

21.

If this is the one that you are interested in I

may be able to find more. But will have to do it

later

Good luck Eve

 

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Subject:

Re: [Cryan et al.] Re Bessie Cryan

Date:

Sun, 17 Apr 2005 15:43:06 +0100

To:

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Hi

Re Cryan's of Brougher 1901 census the John Cryan

married Ann Cosgrove just

after 1901 and had 3 children Patrick and Mary

who were sent to Swampscott

U.S.A about 1910 their parents died very young in

their 30's another son

John was left in Sligo (Bearlough) with a family

named Davey and he later

married a lady named Norra Breheny about 1940

they moved to England (Sussex)

and had a child again named John born about 1947.

The house ruins now on the

Snee  Farm can still be seen.

Patrick and Mary when sent to America ,were

looked after by a relation

Patrick S Cryan .

Because of the large number of Cryan's in the

area the family was known as

Johnny Andy Cryan.

The John who married Ann Cosgrove  parents were

Thomas Cryan and Mary

Cryan(this was her name also) Thomas's father was

Patrick Cryan,Thomas died

about 1890-1900.

I do have some records of Thomas and Mary's other

children.

Patrick Cryans

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Re: [Cryan et al.] Re Bessie Cryan

Date:

18 Apr 2005 00:33:48 +0000

To:

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Hello Beth and Patrick (thank you, Eve, for

posting Beth's message): There

appear to be several Cryan connections between

Brougher (Brogher) Townland

and Swampscott, Massachusetts. It reminds me a

bit of the connection

between Springfield, Massachusetts and the folks

who emigrated from the

Blasket Islands, County Kerry.

 

My great grandfather, Martin Francis Cryan

emigrated from Brogher about

1858 as a child, and travelled with his older

brother (Patrick) and sister

(Bridget - married Patrick Feeney and lived in

Wareham, MA). When brother

Patrick volunteered for the US Civil War, young

Martin was sent to live

with relatives in western Pennsylvania. Before

she died a few years ago, my

aunt (born about 1918 and Martin's granddaughter)

vividly recalled visiting

Cryan relatives in Swampscott. Some of them

worked at a General Electric

factory there (one Patrick Cryan in Patrick's

recent submission to this

list, also worked at the GE factory). That was in

the 1920s and early

1930s. Several years ago, when researching the

Cryan name in Swampscott, I

did come across Thomas Jordan. I think he married

a Cryan, and I have this

information in my work office where I will be

later this week. As I recall,

I have the marriage certificate for Thomas

Jordan, which I will forward

later in the week.

 

Unfortunately though, I'm not sure how to locate

Bessie's birth date. Was

there any info in the 1947 obituary? I have good

luck with locating info

from those sources, and if you know the date of

death, you can access the

local newspaper where she died. Then again,

perhaps you already consulted

it. Where was she living when she died?

 

What about the naturalization papers? I was able

to obtain these documents

for my great grandfather. As I recall, they are

at times held by the State,

depending on the year of naturalization. A

genealogy library/center in the

State of Massachusetts might be able to help in

terms of locating

naturalization papers for Bessie.

 

Did she work outside the home? The city

directories will tell you whether

she did. At one stage, I was thinking of

contacting the GE plant (probably

gone!) and asking if they retained records on

former employees (a long

shot, but genealogists get desperate!). The 1930

US census records are now

available (for a fee!) but they would be limited

to age, so that year of

birth could be calculated but not actual birth

date. Sorry I can't be of

more help here, but the Swampscott-Brogher

connection sparked my interest.

 

Patrick: Do you know the names of Thomas Cryan's

siblings? You mention that

Thomas' father was called Patrick. My great

grandfather Martin Cryan lists

his father as Patrick Cryan (Brogher) who would

have been born about 1820.

We think that our Patrick had died by 1858, when

the children emigrated to

Massachusetts. This Patrick married Catherine

Conlon Cryan.

 

Thanks and best wishes, Karen

Karen McElrath" <k.mcelrath@qub.ac.uk>  View Contact Details

Subject:

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Date:

Wed, 20 Apr 2005 12:06:12 +0100 (GMT Standard Time)

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Patrick and Beth:  It looks like Patrick has

found the birthdate

for Bessie Cryan (12 November 1876).  It's nice

to find a piece

of the puzzle every now and then.  Because all

this information

is logged in the archives, it might be useful to

other Cryan

researchers in the future.

 

Some comments about the info passed on by Patrick

and Beth:

 

1) Thomas Cryan and Mary Cryan (her maiden name

as well) had

children 1) Thomas, 2) Andrew, 3) James, 4)

Catherine, 5)

Bessie, and 6) Thomas (first child named Thomas

died as a

child).  Beth notes that her Bessie had a brother

named Patrick.

In the 1800s, various children's names were

omitted from

records, so the omission here is not surprising. 

On 3 August

1949, a Patrick J. Cryan died in Swampscott,

Mass. at the age of

79.  Born in Ireland, and a gardener residing at

45 Pleasant

Street, his parents are listed as Thomas Cryan

and Mary Cryan.  

I have links with Patrick J. although i have yet

to learn how.

 

2) One possibility is as follows:

 

Patrick Cryan and Catherine Conlon (Brougher

townland, Sligo)

each born circa 1820.  They had at least 4

children: 1) Thomas,

married Mary Cryan (Beth's line), 2) Patrick

(emigrated to

Mass., USA, served in US Civil War and married

Catherine Lavin),

3) Martin Francis (emigrated to USA, my line),

and 4) Bridget

(emigrated to USA, married Patrick Feeney, lived

Wareham,

Mass.).  Patrick and Catherine Conlon Cryan

definitely had

the last 3 children, and I am thinking that

Thomas (who

married Mary Cryan) was their first born son. 

Patrick Cryans

(this list) mentions that Thomas Cryan took over

the lease from

Patrick Cryan (probably his father) in 1862.  The

younger 3

children emigrated to the USA in 1858, perhaps

because the lease

was going to Thomas and the mother (Catherine

Conlon Cryan) had

died.  Just a hunch...

 

Questions:  Regarding the Thomas Cryan who

married Mary Cryan -

does anyone have info on the names of his

siblings AND the name

of his mother?

 

thanks, karen

 

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Subject:

Re: [Cryan et al.] Re Bessie Cryan

Date:

Fri, 22 Apr 2005 18:10:44 +0100

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Hi Beth, (probably best to print this)

Spent some time at the LDS and looked up the USA

census data 1900, 1910,

1920 and 1930

You said that Bessie went to the USA in 1903 to

visit sister Kate and Mrs

Mary Jordan (so maybe the were there is 1900)

Found in 1900

at 36 Pleasant St  Swampscott Essex MA

Thomas Jordan bAug 1866(Ire) aged 33 Gardener

arrived in USA 1887

Mary Jordan b Oct 1870 (Ire) aged 29            

arrived in USA 1888

with children

Mary E(5), Agnes(2) and James(4mths) allborn USA

MA

and boarder

Patrick CRYAN aged 37 b May 1863(Ire) Gardener

arr USA 1888

 

have not found Kate CRYAN

 

In 1910 census

at 36 Glen Rd, Swampscott, Essex, MA(Next to

Pleasant St)

Mary JORDAN wid aged 39 (b Ire)

with children

Mary E (15), Agnes E(11), James(10) and Alice(7)

also James H CRYAN(27) (b Ire),  Brother,

Motor...? with Electric RR(diff to

read) arrived USA 1909

 

1920 Census

James H CRYAN aged 26 b Ire is a lodger in Friend

St. Lynn Essex MA ,job

Motorman StreetRailway Says applied for

naturalisation in 1912

 

1920 Census

36 Glen Rd Swampscott

Mary Jordan and family Agnes,(21)nurse in private

family,JamesT(20)

Auto(looks like) Trucker Controller,Agnes(17)

 

Patrick Cryan and family at 75 Pleasent St

Swampscott

Patrick(55) Gardener private estate

Norah(35) wife b Ire

children JohnJ(7) Mary(5),Henry(18mths)

 

NOW the Gem

 

1930 Census

39a Coburne St Lynn, Essex MA

Philip FRAHER(45) age at first marriage 31 b Ire

arr USA 1909 Labourer for

the City(goverment)

Bessie FRAHER(43) age at first marriage 29 b Ire,

arrived USA 1909(not

clear)

and son Philip Jr(10)

 

If this is your Bessie she says that she was born

in 1887 , however she may

have given a false age so as not to be older than

her husband  (However this

is near to the date of birth of Bridget Cryan in

Brogher in 1901 census .

There are very few who fit your criteria for

Bessie/Bridget and fewer Philip

Frahers

It also means that you should be able to find her

marriage in 1919 (probably

in Lynn or possibly in Swampscott) which should

give her parents

I have not found her in 1920 or 1910 yet

 

It would also seem that James H Cryan above may

be your Bessie's brother and

so Mary Jordan is her sister.......and so on

 

Good Luck...You can probably look yourself at

these censuses and obtain

copies of the originals if your local LDS

subscribes to Ancestry.com for all

to use.

 

If 1887 is Bessie's date of birth I maybe able to

give a reference for you

to get a photocopy of her birth registration from

Joyce House Dublin....

Look on the internet and fill in the form and pay

something like 3/4$ (with

full references) or more for a search (few

Bridget Cryans only 2 or 3 in 10

years at this time)

 

Best Wishes Eve

 

 

PATRICK CRYANS" <pat@pcryans.fsnet.co.uk>  Add to Address Book

Date:

Mon, 2 May 2005 16:40:26 +0100

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Hi Beth,

i am unablle to send you some documents as i am

blocked by your server can you adjust,i have the

records of your family home in Brougher from

Vicount Lorton Records.

Patrick

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Kevin, I came across your email when trying to search for my Great grandparents.They were Patrick Hannon and Bridget Cryan from Seafin, Co. Sligo.I have very little to go on.My grandfather Michael Frances Hannon was born Nov 19,1884. He was one of many children

Thomas,Mary,Maurice,James P. ,Michael Frances ,Catherine,Agnes,Margaret,Emily, Joseph. I believe he had a second family with second wife possibly Sylvia with 4 more children Mary,Patrick,John,Frenchy.Many of these came to U.S. in early 1900's.

 

Does any of this tie in with reasearch you have done.Any help would be greatly appreciated.As far as I know all were Roman Catholic.

Thanks

 

Anne Hannon McCann

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Date:

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Hi

Anyone interested in old maps should look at one

by Baptista Boazio dated 1599 available from the

British Library.

It shows the Cryan's as living on  the right hand

side of the river Foyle( County Tyrone) which is

where some people think that we originated from

before Sligo and Roscommon as opposed to Donegal

and Sligo Town.

Patrick Cryans

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To: "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>

Subject: Re: part of 1599 map

Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 20:15:18 +0100

Hi Caoimhghin,

Don't worry i am working on getting a complete

 copy to send.

Info,the name shown on the map is Cryns or

 Cryne,i was given this info by a

Dr Cryan in Galway(SALTHILL) i think he is no

 longer with us,i am not sure

but i think he died,his son also a Doctor lives

 in Galway.

The family originate from Knocknaskeagh near

 Gurteen,before that 1800 they

came from Keash.

Then again back to the old legends Bartley

 Cryan's family in Ballymote  told

me that there were originally 9 famillies of

 Cryan who settled in the Keash

area who knows?

All the best Patrick

 

 

 

 

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Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 11:18:17 EDT

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To: caoimhghin@yahoo.com

CC: Cay2545@aol.com

    Kevin,

Is the "Registry" that you are referring to the Mormon information site or the Roscommon Heritage Society or ? I'm having a "dense" moment. I'm sorry I am just not as familiar with the locations of research.  I just wanted to follow up on that information if I could.

 

Well, it's not just your research that I enjoy so much on your site even though those resources are wonderful.   I love your family history, the pictures of the "throne," the personal family history, etc.  You inspire others to keep looking and hoping to find their own history.   Some day I hope to put our tree on the web to help others perhaps find any connections. 

 

As I said, our link seems to be a James and Mary (Phillip(s) ) Cryan in Roscommon, Shroove, Grophy? area.  The Cryan farm was in Edna (Calif. Cryan list)Fuller's relatives' hands until 1930 or so, I believe.  Her relative, John, was the youngest son and stayed behind with Mary and John, the father. 

 

The rest of the siblings came over to the Massachusetts, Lowell, area in the mid/late l800's.  She has sent some great pictures of the old house, etc.  Another relative gave those to her from 1968 before the remains became even less on the land.  St. Nathy's , Ballagadahreen, seems to be the location of the baptisms, marriages, etc.  She has found the cemeteries around the area and believes she knows where the ggg parents would be buried, but no tombstones.  So she hasn't been able to go back farther than 1815? with them as to births and deaths end of the century or ?

 

My relative that I've been tracing is Michael Crien/Cryan who married a Bridget Foley in 1864 in Ireland who then came over a few years later with many children and lived in the Lowell, MA area the rest of their lives. 

 

Only two children married and had children, one was my gg grandfather, John Patrick.  Out of his marriage to Sarah Igo, he had several children, three survived, including my grandfather John J. 

 

My grandfather married a Catherine Dube (from Cambridge, MA),and they had several children, one of whom is my father, Richard George (who died at 26).  With his death, my mother in Kansas just never was able to keep up with the relatives who had now moved to Newark, NJ area.

 

I've looked for years and found two cousins(daughters of my dad's sister) now in VT. and Conn.  Edna Fuller  and Jill DeVito are related through their siblings to Michael.  They have shared much of their family tree info. with me.  Karen Murphy has shared many obits, etc. with me, and is a wonderful help to this day! :) I thought maybe some of these names might be familiar.  Eve, once on the list, actually gave me the marriage date of Michael and Bridget.  I don't see her on the list anymore.  FamSpack, I think was her e-mail. 

 

Take care.  Your university research sounds very interesting and difficult!  Congratulations on all you've accomplished.  Dottie

 

 

 

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Subject: [Cryan et al.] Ellis Island records cont'd - Crine and Crehan

   

1. Giuseppe Cri...ne    Biscari, Siracusa    1911

  16

        

2. Harriet B. Crine        1903            

3. James Crine    Mossend, Scotland    1922  24 

    

  

4. Paolo Crine    Castroreale    1906  38       

  

5. Thomas Crine    Mossend, Scotland    1922  27

     

 

 

 

1. Ann Crehan    Ennis    1897  16          

2. Ann Crehan        1897  16          

3. Annie Crehan    Ballygas, Ireland    1909  28

     

   

4. Annie Crehan    Kilfinane, Ireland    1910  26

    

    

5. Annie Crehan    New York, America    1909  28

     

   

6. Bdgt. Crehan    Ballygas, Ireland    1900  21

     

   

7. Bernard Crehan    Ballygar, Ireland    1908

  26   

     

8. Bernard Crehan    Bellew, Ireland    1909  30

     

   

9. Bernard Crehan    Toomard, Ireland    1915  35

    

    

10. Bridget Crehan    Ballygar    1904  20     

    

11. Bridget Crehan    Ballygar, Ireland    1907

  18  

      

12. Bridget Crehan    Ballygar, Ireland    1911

  20  

      

13. Bridget Crehan    Co. Galway    1893  19   

     

 

14. Bridget Crehan    Mount Bellow, Co. Galway,

Ireland    1924  20          

15. Bridget Crehan        1895  21          

16. Cath Crehan    Ballygar    1899  19         

 

17. Cath. Crehan    Mount...    1905  40       

  

18. Catherine Crehan    Mount Bellew    1903  17

     

   

19. Cecelia Crehan    New York, America    1911

  33  

      

20. Celia Crehan    U.S.    1909  28          

21. David Crehan    Mountballow, Ireland    1920

  21 

       

22. Delia Crehan    Ballinamore, Ireland    1915

  18 

       

23. Delia Crehan    Ballmasluc, Ireland    1913

  28  

      

24. Delia Crehan    Montbellow, Ireland    1910

  35  

      

25. Edward Aloysuis Crehan    Port of Spain, West

Indies    1915  54         

26. Ellen Crehan    ...lasla    1901  20       

  

27. Ellie Crehan    Limerick    1903  7         

 

28. Herbert Crehan        1907  45          

29. James Crehan    Ballysheedy, Ireland    1912

  18 

       

30. James Crehan    Chesterfield, England    1909

  25

        

31. James Crehan    Cork    1902  19          

32. James Crehan    Ireland    1915  19         

 

33. James Crehan    New York, N.Y.    1921  35 

     

 

34. James Crehan        1896  23          

35. James Crehan        1907  58          

36. Jane Crehan    Mount Bellew    1901  17     

    

37. Joha. Crehan    Limerick    1897  18       

  

38. Johannah Crehan    Lizzagry, Ireland    1908

  29 

       

39. John Crehan    Ballinasloe, Ireland    1911

  26  

      

40. John Crehan    Galway, Ireland    1906  22 

     

 

41. John Crehan    Mount Bellew, Co. Galway,

 Ireland 

 1924  25          

42. John Crehan    New Bridge, Ireland    1907

  37   

     

43. John Crehan    Toomara, Ireland    1915  23 

    

  

44. John Francis Crehan    Hingham, Mass    1923

  56 

       

45. Joseph Crehan    Malbay, Ireland    1920  22

     

   

46. Julia Crehan        1897  17          

47. Kate Crehan    Ennis    1897  18          

48. Kate Crehan    Mountbellew    1905  17     

    

49. Kate Crehan        1897  18           

50. Katie Crehan    Ballinasloe, Ireland    1911

  19 

      

51. Katie Crehan    Ballygar    1902  19       

  

52. Katie Crehan    Bellew, Ireland    1909  18 

    

  

53. Katie Crehan    Cappagh, Ireland    1908  19

     

   

54. Katie Crehan    Creeveroe, Ireland    1922

  25   

     

55. Katie Crehan    Fulberquin, Ireland    1912

  28  

      

56. Katie Crehan    Galway, Ireland    1906  18 

    

  

57. Katie Crehan    Mayo, Ireland    1920  22   

    

 

58. Katie Crehan    Pwlridge, Ireland    1912  19

    

    

59. Laurence Crehan    Ballygar    1905  21     

    

60. Maggie Crehan    Ballinacor, Ireland    1908

  19 

       

61. Maggie Crehan    Ballygar    1904  17       

  

62. Margaret Crehan    Foyhill Ballygan, Ireland

  

1906  20          

63. Margt. Crehan        1896  24          

64. Mark Crehan        1913  39          

65. Marks Crehan    Caffagh, Ireland    1921  22

     

   

66. Marks Crehan    Cappagh, Ireland    1921  22

     

   

67. Mary Crehan    Ballinasloe, Ireland    1913

  32  

      

68. Mary Crehan    Ballingmoe, Ireland    1913

  28   

     

69. Mary Crehan    Ballygan, Ireland    1906  18

     

   

70. Mary Crehan    Ballygar    1903  19         

 

71. Mary Crehan    Bellew, Ireland    1909  16 

     

 

72. Mary Crehan    Ireland    1920  18          

73. Mary Crehan    Ireland    1922  20          

74. Mary Crehan    Mount Bellew    1903  20     

    

75. Mary Crehan    Mount Bellew    1903  22     

   

76. Mary Crehan    Moylough, Co. Galway, Ireland

  

1924  20          

77. Mary Crehan    New York, America    1914  25

     

   

78. Mary Crehan    Newbridge, Ireland    1920  22

    

    

79. Mary Crehan    Rushertown, Ireland    1920

  18   

     

80. Mary Crehan    Shanahen, Ireland    1912  18

     

   

81. Mary Crehan        1913            

82. Mary A Crehan    Newbridge Co.alway, Ireland

  

1909  23          

83. Mary A. Crehan    Miltownmalboy, Ireland 

  1908

22          

84. Mary D. Crehan    Ballimanare, Ire.    1922

  21  

      

85. Mary Delia Crehan    Ballyvoneen, Ireland 

  1922

20          

86. Mary T. Crehan    Roscommon, Ireland    1920

  18 

       

87. Mary T. Crehan    Rosscommon, Ireland    1920

  18

        

88. Mathew Crehan    Ballygar, Ireland    1911

  18   

     

89. Matt Crehan    Ballygae    1893  20         

 

90. Matt Crehan        1895  21          

91. Matthew Crehan    Rushstoma, Ireland    1910

  30 

       

92. Matthew J. Crehan    Boston, America    1907

  29 

       

93. Maurice Crehan    Dingle    1901  27       

  

94. Michael Crehan    Ballinastague, Co. Galway 

 

1905  27          

95. Michael Crehan    Coradrum, Ireland    1921

  22  

      

96. Michael Crehan    Loughrea,    1895  32     

    

97. Michael Crehan    Montbellow, Ireland    1910

  24

        

98. Michael Crehan    Sheffield    1906  29     

    

99. Michl. Crehan        1901  62          

100. Mollie Crehan    Miltown Malboy    1906  23

     

  

101. Nora Crehan    Rushestown, Ireland    1916

  38  

      

102. Nora Crehan        1911  28          

103. Norah Crehan    Ballygar    1904  20       

  

104. Owen Crehan    Chesterfield    1904  22   

     

 

105. Patrick Crehan    Ennie, Ireland    1910  22

    

    

106. Sabas Crehan        1920  35           

107. Sabina Crehan    Ballinasloe, Co. Galway,

 Ireland

   1924  21          

108. Sabina Crehan    Moylough    1902  28     

    

109. Sarah Crehan        1903            

110. Teresa Crehan    Earlestown, England    1910

  24

        

111. Thomas Crehan    Ballygar    1903  23     

    

112. Thomas Crehan    Ballygar, Ireland    1913

  18  

      

113. Thomas Crehan    Ballysar    1909  26     

    

114. Thomas Crehan    Ennis, Ireland    1921  20

     

   

115. Thomas Crehan    Lisnagry    1905  21     

    

116. Thomas Crehan    Maltby, England    1923  26

    

    

117. Thomas Crehan    Mount Bellew    1904  56 

     

 

118. Thomas Crehan    Shanahea, Ireland    1921

  20  

      

119. Thomas M. Crehan    Earlestown, England 

  1910

24          

120. Thos. Crehan    Moylough    1902  22       

  

121. Timothy Crehan    NY, USA    1914  27     

    

122. Timothy Crehan        1914  37          

123. William Crehan    Kilfinane, Ireland    1912

  24

        

124. William Crehan        1896  52         

 

 

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From: "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>  View Contact Details   Add Mobile Alert 

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Subject: [Cryan et al.] Ellis Island records contd -Crean

    This list also includes many Creans from Kerry

 and

Cork. They are most likely to be O Cuirin [also

anglicised as Curren] eg the famous explorer Tom

Crean. O Croidheain Creans tended to come from

 Sligo

where it was a famous name in the 1600s with

 Crean's

Castle and Crean's Cross. These Creans were a

 famous

merchant family, some of whom became bishops.

However the townland names maybe helpful. Also it

would be interesting to see which townlands also

contained Cryans and Crehans showing a crossover

 in

the spellings if any....

caoimhghin

 

 

1. ..... Crean    Ballina    1899  20          

2. A. Crean    Southampton    1897  37          

3. Aggie Crean    Ballina    1892  25          

4. Agnes Crean    New York    1923  26          

5. Agnes Crean        1910  28          

6. Alice Crean        1895  70          

7. Andrew Crean    Carndonagh, Co. Donegal,

 Ireland  

1924  18          

8. Andrew Crean    Cork    1895  22          

9. Anna Crean    Clonmel, Ireland    1913  20   

    

 

10. Anne Crean    Charlestown, Ireland    1921

  54   

     

11. Annie Crean    Ballina    1906  18          

12. Annie Crean    Ballyragt, Ireland    1915  24

    

    

13. Annie Crean    Ballyvary    1905  21       

  

14. Annie Crean    Culeens, Ireland    1911  17 

    

  

15. Annie Crean    Currower    1905  19         

 

16. Annie Crean    Enniscorthy    1901  19     

    

17. Annie Crean    Nailsworth, England    1914

  26   

     

18. Annie Crean    Normanton, England    1911  15

    

    

19. Annie Crean    Swinford    1904  19         

 

20. Annie Crean    Trune    1898  13          

21. Annie Crean    Woonsocket, U.S.A.    1924  57

    

    

22. Annie Crean        1905  14          

23. Annie Crean        1907  21          

24. Annie Crean        1910  24          

25. Anthony Crean    Ballina, Ireland    1920  22

    

   

26. Anthony Crean    Corballa, Ireland    1921

  25   

     

27. Anthony Crean    Leeds, England    1923  32 

    

  

28. Anthony Crean    Townlacgnt, Ireland    1920

  22 

       

29. Arora Crean    Kenilworth, USA    1916  11 

     

 

30. Bernard Crean        1920  18          

31. Bernard Crean        1920  20          

32. Bridget Crean    Ballina, Ireland    1924  20

    

    

33. Bridget Crean    Ballina, Ireland    1908  21

    

    

34. Bridget Crean    Ballinvary    1899  18     

    

35. Bridget Crean    Ballygar    1904  20       

  

36. Bridget Crean    Bonniconlon, Ireland    1920

  17

        

37. Bridget Crean    Castlegregory, Ire.    1921

  23 

       

38. Bridget Crean    Castlerea    1904  24     

    

39. Bridget Crean    Enniscorthy    1901  21   

     

 

40. Bridget Crean    Gary, Ind.    1920  27     

    

41. Bridget Crean    Sligo, Ireland    1910  21 

    

  

42. Bridget Crean    Tralee, Ireland    1924  24

     

   

43. Bridget Crean    near Ballina    1898  19   

    

 

44. Bridget Crean        1896  19          

45. Bridget Mary Crean    Ballyphilip, Ireland 

  1922

 29          

46. Cath Crean    Castlegregory    1899  19     

    

47. Catherine Crean    Bofield    1905  24     

    

48. Catherine Crean    Camp, Ireland    1909  20

     

   

49. Catherine Crean    Castlegregory    1899  19

     

   

50. Catherine Crean    Inchingeela, Ireland 

  1910

23         

51. Catherine Crean    New York    1906  29     

    

52. Catherine Crean        1896  18          

53. Cathleen Crean    New York, N.Y.    1922  7 

    

  

54. Celia Crean    Ballina    1902  19          

55. Celia Crean    Cargan, Ireland    1920  23 

     

 

56. Celia Crean    Culleens, Ireland    1909  26

     

   

57. Charles Crean    Carndonagh, Ireland    1920

  22 

       

58. Charles Crean    Cork    1903  6          

59. Charles Crean    Cork    1903  35          

60. Charlotte Crean        1909  18          

61. Charlotte E. Crean        1907            

62. Con Crean    Cork    1900  19          

63. Daniel Crean    Cork    1904  33          

64. Daniel Crean        1897  25          

65. Daniel Crean        1913  42          

66. Danl. Crean    Cork    1904  30          

67. Edward Crean    Ballena    1903  26         

 

68. Edward Crean    Ballina    1903  26         

 

69. Edward Crean    Ballina, Ireland    1924  23

     

   

70. Edward Crean    Ballina, Ireland    1924  23

     

   

71. Edward Crean    Castlegregory    1900  20   

    

 

72. Edward Crean    York    1903  25          

73. Edward Crean        1914  30          

74. Eleanor M. Crean    Capetown, S. Africa 

  1920

45          

75. Elizabeth Crean    Leeds, England    1923  28

    

   

76. Ellen Crean    Macroom    1898  18          

77. Ellen Crean    Sligo    1900  18          

78. Ellen Crean        1896  22          

79. Ellen Crean...    Clasanorin, Ireland    1906

  55

        

80. Ellie Crean    Ballina, Ireland    1910  18 

    

  

81. Emma Crean    Bonnicolon, Ireland    1920  23

    

    

82. Eunnia Crean    Ballina    1892  23         

 

83. Felix Crean    Cullens, Ireland    1920  34 

    

  

84. Florence V. Crean    Chestnut Hill, Pa. 

  1923

48          

85. Florence V. Crean    Philadelphia, Pa. 

  1924  49

         

86. Frederick E. Crean    Capetown, S. Africa 

  1920

44          

87. Hannah Crean    Camp, Ireland    1909  20   

    

 

88. Hannah Crean    Cork    1906  26          

89. Hannah Crean        1913  25          

90. Hannie Crean    Aunascaul, Ireland    1920

  18   

     

91. Hanora Crean    Castlegregory, Ireland 

  1916  26

         

92. Helen Crean    London, England    1916  23 

     

 

93. Helen L.M. Crean    Liverpool, England 

  1919  25

         

94. Henry Crean    Normanton, England    1911  20

    

    

95. Hugh Crean    Camp, Ireland    1921  20     

    

96. Hugh Crean    Castlegregory    1895  19     

    

97. Hugh Crean    Fralee    1897  29          

98. Hugh Crean    Tralee    1898  21          

99. Hugh Crean        1894  26          

100. Hugh Crean        1895  40         

101. J. Crean    County Lerry    1906  2       

  

102. James Crean    ... Ireland    1915  22     

    

103. James Crean    Cullune, Ireland    1909  21

     

   

104. James Crean    Easkey    1906  19          

105. James Crean    Kenilworth, USA    1916  49 

    

  

106. James Crean    Liverpool, England    1922

  34   

     

107. James Crean    Moyne, Ireland    1920  28 

     

 

108. James Crean    Moyne, Ireland    1920  28 

     

 

109. James Crean    Rallins, Ireland    1913  25

     

   

110. James Crean    Tralee    1895  20          

111. James Crean    Tralee    1895  27          

112. James Crean        1900  24          

113. James Crean        1897            

114. Jane Crean    Creggs, Ireland    1915  18 

     

 

115. Jane Crean    Tralee    1900  18          

116. Jennie Crean    Tralce, Ireland    1909  28

     

   

117. Jennie Crean    Tralee    1904  20         

 

118. Jeremiah Crean    Buffalo, N.Y.    1910  48

     

   

119. Jeremiah Crean    Castlegregory, Ireland 

  1906

19          

120. Jeremiah Crean    Cork, Ireland    1909  28

     

   

121. Jerry Crean    Cork    1903  11          

122. Jerry Crean    Garry, Ind.    1920  33     

    

123. Jerry Crean    Liverpool, England    1920

  22   

     

124. Jno. Crean    Ireland    1892  28          

125. John Crean    Adamstown, Ireland    1911  31

    

   

126. John Crean    Ballaghaderin, Ireland    1910

  30

        

127. John Crean    Ballina    1905  24          

128. John Crean    Camp, Ireland    1907  20   

     

 

129. John Crean    Camp, Ireland    1909  39   

     

 

130. John Crean    Castlegregory, Ireland    1924

  27

        

131. John Crean    Golborn    1903  26          

132. John Crean    Ireland, Dublin    1911  26 

      

 

133. John Crean    Kilbigret Kings Court    1906

  25 

       

134. John Crean    Macroom, Ireland    1913  22 

    

  

135. John Crean    New York    1923  27         

 

136. John Crean    New York City    1906  2     

    

137. John Crean    Tralee    1892  27          

138. John Crean    Trulee    1903  23          

139. John Crean    Trune    1898  19          

140. John Crean    near Ballina    1898  21     

     

141. John Crean        1895  41          

142. John Francis Crean    London    1904  36   

    

 

143. John T. Crean    Cork, Ireland    1910  36 

    

  

144. Joseph Crean    Belfast, Ireland    1921  29

    

    

145. Joseph Crean    Calooney, Ireland    1908

  26   

     

146. Joseph Crean        1923  30          

147. Josephine Crean    Belfast, Ireland    1912

  27 

       

148. Julia Crean    Cork, Ireland    1920  21   

    

 

149. Kate Crean    Ballina    1903  18          

150. Kate Crean    Castlegregory    1900  19   

     

 

151. Kate Crean    Ireland    1894  20          

152. Kate Crean    Kiltsmagh, Ireland    1909  25

    

    

153. Kate Crean        1895  18          

154. Kate Crean        1896  19          

155. Kate E. Crean    Ballina, Ireland    1923

  21   

     

156. Katie Crean    Annascaul, Ireland    1912

  21   

     

157. Katie Crean    Ballygai Ireland    1909  23

     

   

158. Kitty Crean    Ballina, Ireland    1910  24

     

   

159. Lillian Crean    Belfast, Ireland    1912

  29   

     

160. Lillian Crean        1910  21          

161. Lillian F. Crean        1907  13          

162. Lizzie Crean    Ballina, Ireland    1923  22

    

    

163. Lizzie Crean    Belfast    1899  23       

  

164. Lizzie Crean    Tralee    1903  39         

 

165. MARY CREAN    CARRACUM    1905  21          

 

166. Madge Crean    London, England    1913  25 

    

  

167. Maggie Crean    Ballina, Ireland    1904  25

    

    

168. Maggie Crean    Kiltimagh, Ireland    1909

  20  

      

169. Maggie Crean    Moyue    1905  20          

170. Maggie Crean        1894  19          

171. Marg. Crean        1895  16          

172. Margaret Crean    Attymass, Ireland    1920

  19 

       

173. Margaret Crean    Boston, Mass.    1919  46

     

   

174. Margaret Crean    Lispole, Ireland    1923

  36  

      

175. Margaret Crean    New York, N.Y.    1922  9

     

 

176. Margaret Crean    Tryhill, Ballygar, Ireland

  

1913  21          

177. Margareth Crean    Hobocken, N.Y.    1915

  41   

     

178. Margret Crean    Longford    1892  45     

    

179. Margt. Crean    Ballinvary    1899  21     

    

180. Maria Crean    Breafy    1897  19          

181. Marie Crean    Lakewood, N., U. S. A. 

  1909  33

         

182. Marie Crean        1915  22          

183. Martha Crean    Cork    1903  33          

184. Martin Crean    Ballymor, Ireland    1910

  19   

     

185. Martin Crean    Camp, Ireland    1911  22 

     

 

186. Martin Crean    Cargan    1905  22         

 

187. Martin Crean    Dublin, Ireland    1909  26

     

   

188. Martin Crean    Knockelass Camp, Ireland 

  1910

21          

189. Martin Crean    Tralee    1898  23         

 

190. Martin Crean        1895  20          

191. Martin Crean        1894  31          

192. Martin J Crean    Innescrone Cosligs,

 Ireland  

1910  22          

193. Mary Crean    Aughhasata    1899  20       

  

194. Mary Crean    Ballina    1902  18          

195. Mary Crean    Ballina    1905  19          

196. Mary Crean    Ballina    1905  20          

197. Mary Crean    Ballina    1909  25          

198. Mary Crean    Ballina, Ireland    1913  20 

    

  

199. Mary Crean    Ballina, Ireland    1913  20 

    

  

200. Mary Crean    Ballina, Ireland    1924  21 

    

 

201. Mary Crean    Ballina, Ireland    1924  21 

    

  

202. Mary Crean    Camp, Ireland    1907  21   

     

 

203. Mary Crean    Camp, Ireland    1909       

    

204. Mary Crean    Camp., Ireland    1914  25   

    

 

205. Mary Crean    Castlegregory    1905  19   

     

 

206. Mary Crean    Castlegregory    1895  45   

     

 

207. Mary Crean    Castlegregory, Ireland    1909

    

      

208. Mary Crean    Castlerea    1902  16       

  

209. Mary Crean    Crossmolina, Ireland    1908

  34  

      

210. Mary Crean    Dingle    1904  22          

211. Mary Crean    Kenilworth, USA    1916  49 

     

 

212. Mary Crean    Knockmore, Ireland    1908  24

    

    

213. Mary Crean    Lligo, Ireland    1904  21   

    

 

214. Mary Crean    Macroom    1900  18          

215. Mary Crean    Macroom    1900  25          

216. Mary Crean    Mallow, Ireland    1915  19 

     

 

217. Mary Crean    Normanton, England    1911  18

    

    

218. Mary Crean    Shinrone, Ireland    1909  36

     

   

219. Mary Crean    Yonkers, U.S.A.    1914  5   

    

 

220. Mary Crean        1893  19          

221. Mary Crean        1896  19          

222. Mary Crean        1897  23          

223. Mary Crean        1910  42          

224. Mary Teresa Crean    New York, N.Y.    1922

  11 

       

225. Maurice Crean    Adamstown, Ireland    1911

  30 

    

226. Maurice J. Crean    Chestnut Hill, Pa. 

  1923

56          

227. Maurice J. Crean    Philadelphia, Pa. 

  1924  57

         

228. Mel. Crean        1896  22          

229. Michael Crean    Ballinna, Mayo, Ireland 

  1924

20          

230. Michael Crean    Castlegregory    1895  19 

    

  

231. Michael Crean    Castlegregory, Ireland 

  1923

24          

232. Michael Crean    Dunmanway    1900  22     

    

233. Michael Crean    Jersey City, NJ USA    1911

  30

        

234. Michael Crean    Manchester, England    1908

  18

        

235. Michael Crean    Tralee    1900  22       

  

236. Michael Crean    Tralee    1900  22       

  

237. Mrs. Crean    County Lerry    1906  29     

    

238. Mrs. Crean    San Francisco, Cal.    1906

  22   

     

239. Mrs. Crean        1907  33          

240. Nancy Crean    Castlegregory    1895  17   

    

 

241. Nellie Crean    ... Ireland    1914  20   

     

 

242. Nellie Crean    Camp, Ireland    1909  30 

     

 

243. Nellie Crean    Castlegregory, Ire    1907

  19  

      

244. Nellie Crean    Castlegregory, Ireland 

  1909

30          

245. Nellie Crean    Yonkers, U.S.A.    1914  40

     

   

246. Nicholas Crean    New York    1906  2     

    

247. Nollie Crean    Holyoke, Mass., America 

  1921

36           

248. Norah Crean    Bonniconlon, Ireland    1920

  26 

       

249. Patk Crean    Castlegregory    1902  26   

     

 

250. Patrick Crean    Ballinasloe    1897  56   

    

 

251. Patrick Crean    Ballymoe, Ireland    1906

  23  

      

252. Patrick Crean    Ballyphilip, Ireland 

  1915  19

         

253. Patrick Crean    Belfast, Ireland    1922  2

    

    

254. Patrick Crean    Belfast, Ireland    1920

  29   

     

255. Patrick Crean    Castlegregory    1904  22 

    

  

256. Patrick Crean    Castlegregory, Ireland 

  1906

26          

257. Patrick Crean    Clifder    1903  28       

  

258. Patrick Crean    Kerry    1892  19         

 

259. Patrick Crean    Leeds, England    1923  36

     

   

260. Patrick Crean    New York    1909  60     

    

261. Patrick Crean    Rallins, Ireland    1913

  25   

     

262. Patrick Crean        1893  22          

263. Patrick Crean        1892  36          

264. Patrick A. Crean    Ballina    1903  20   

     

 

265. Patrick J Crean    New York    1916  25   

     

 

266. Peter Crean    Claremorris, Ireland    1910

  22 

       

267. Peter Crean        1920  34          

268. Peter Crean        1921  45          

269. Philip Crean    Liverpool, England    1922

  25  

      

270. Richard Crean    Camp Kerry    1904  23   

     

 

271. Richard Crean    Watertown, Mass.    1919

  58   

     

272. Robert Crean    Calooney, Ireland    1908

  24   

      

273. Roland Crean    Kenilworth, USA    1916  16

     

   

274. Romas J Crean    London    1906  33       

  

275. Rose Crean    Belfast, Ireland    1922  26 

    

 

276. Sarah Crean    Ballina, Ireland    1907  17

     

   

277. Sarahanne Crean    Ballina, Ireland    1909

  21 

       

278. Sylvester Crean    L'pool    1919         

  

279. Sylvester Crean        1919  26          

280. Thomas Crean    Ballina    1900  20       

  

281. Thomas Crean    Blackburn, England    1923

  26  

      

282. Thomas Crean    Castlegregory    1895  45 

     

 

283. Thomas Crean    Dublin, Ireland    1922  22

     

   

284. Thomas Crean    Jersey City, N.J.    1910

  37   

     

285. Thomas Crean    Normanton, England    1911

  22  

      

286. Thomas Crean    Tralee    1899  11         

 

287. Thomas Crean    Tralee    1895  19         

 

288. Thomas Crean        1910  42          

289. Thomas F. Crean        1907  39          

290. Thos. Crean    Q'town    1892  27           

291. Thos. F. Crean    U.S.A.    1895  26       

  

292. Timothy Crean    Castlegregory, Ireland 

  1909

24          

293. Timothy Crean    Tullig, Ireland    1915  19

    

    

294. Timothy Crean        1895  24          

295. Victoria Crean    London    1906  25       

  

296. W. Crean    County Lerry    1906  9       

  

297. William Crean    Dublin, Ireland    1922  23

    

    

298. William Crean    Golborn    1903  23       

  

299. William Crean    San Francisco, Cal.    1906

  27

        

300. William Crean    U.S.    1909  24         

301. William Crean        1918  21          

302. William Crean        1924  28           

303. William B. Crean        1917  20          

304. William B. Crean        1920  23          

305. William B. Crean        1920  23          

306. William E. Crean        1920  23          

307. William J. Crean        1924  36         

 

 

"Ali Crehan Feeney" <crehan@comcast.net>  Add to Address Book  Add Mobile Alert 

To: "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>

Subject: RE: [Cryan et al.] Ellis Island records cont'd - Crine and Crehan

Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 09:29:53 -0400

   

As always, thank you for your work, Caoimhghin! I

 am always reminded of the

importance of these lists when I do a search on

 the web, as I invariable

turn up a thread from Cyan-L in my results. By

 communicating with each

other, we're helping not just ourselves but all

 the others out there!!

 

As an FYI to the list, in case a connection can

 be made - #44 is my

Great-Grand Uncle, J. Frank.

 

Did anyone else spot a relative on this list?

 

 

44. John Francis Crehan    Hingham, Mass    1923

  56

 

 

_______________________

Ali Crehan Feeney

Quincy, MA

 

 

 

 

 

 

Fri, 16 Sep 2005 17:00:57 -0400

From: "Maureen McCourt Nantista" <mornan@optonline.net>  Add to Address Book  Add Mobile Alert 

Subject: Re: [Cryan et al.] Ellis Island records

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Hi all,

    Thanks Caoimhghin! Was just thinking the

 other day about the Roscommon

Herald project. Whenever you have more articles

 ready just give a shout and

I'll transcribe some.

 

    On the Ellis Island list -

            50.  John Cryan         London,

 England    1911  27    is my

grandfather.

            43.  Jane Cryan         Boyle       

             1902  18    is

his sister.

           126. Patk. J. Cryan    Boyle         

           1906  19    is

his brother.

            20.  Bridget Cryan     Boyle, Ireland

        1908  20    is

another sister.

           142. Peter Cryan        Ireld       

              1912  21    is

another brother.

 

Maureen Nantista

Huntington, NY

 

 

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Subject: [Cryan et al.] Creen 

   

Caoimhghin,

 

What about CREEN? You have a lot of great

 knowledge.

 

This is my line. I have shown it before but it

 has been awhile. I am also having trouble tying

 things together.  Thank you for ANY help and info.

 Blessings, Kathleen

 

Direct Descendants of John Creen

    

 1   John CREEN b: in New York 

..  +Anna "Annie" MINER b: January 1854 in New

 York 

... 2   Rufus Joseph CREEN b: May 1885 in New

  York City, New York d: Abt. 1940 in New York (Rufus

 has also been spelled with two f's)

.......  +Charlotte "Lottie" KERNER b: November

 27, 1886 in Brooklyn, New York d: March 13, 1959

 in New York m: October 26, 1904 in New York

......... 3   Isabell M. CREEN b: October 5, 1905

 in Brooklyn, New York d: October 1, 1938 in

 Queens County, New York

.............  +Lester Aloyisius O'DONNELL b:

 August 30, 1908 in Flatbush, Brooklyn, New York d:

 March 2, 1992 in Yonkers, New York m: 1923 in

 Brooklyn, New York

............... 4   Edwin Allen O'DONNELL b: June

 10, 1931 in Brooklyn, New York 

...................  +Bennie Bell Ann ARMSTRONG

 b: July 14, 1935 in Vinson, Oklahoma  m: October

 4, 1954 in Wichita, Kansas

.................... 5   Kathleen Marie O'DONNELL

 b: June 17, 1956 in McConnell A.F.B., Wichita,

 Kansas 

 

Descendants of John Creen

    

 1   John CREEN b: in New York 

..  +Anna "Annie" MINER b: January 1854 in New

 York 

... 2   Rufus Joseph CREEN b: May 1885 in New

  York City, New York d: Abt. 1940 in New York

.......  +Charlotte "Lottie" KERNER b: November

 27, 1886 in Brooklyn, New York d: March 13, 1959

 in New York m: October 26, 1904 in New York

......... 3   Isabell M. CREEN b: October 5, 1905

 in Brooklyn, New York d: October 1, 1938 in

 Queens County, New York

.............  +Lester Aloyisius O'DONNELL b:

 August 30, 1908 in Flatbush, Brooklyn, New York d:

 March 2, 1992 in Yonkers, New York m: 1923 in

 Brooklyn, New York

......... 3   Rufus Joseph CREEN, Jr. b: December

 15, 1908 in New York d: January 1985 in

 Riverhead, New York

.............  +Eleanor A.   m: October 2, 1910

......... 3   Jessica CREEN b: 1912 

... 2   Isabella CREEN b: February 1882 

 

I found this census- it does not have Rufus'

 father listed and I am really not positive his name

 is John.

1900 Federal Census Borough of Manhattan, New

 York, New York June 4th

Name:    Rufus Creen

Home in 1900:    Manhattan, New York, New York

Age:    15 

Estimated birth year:    1885 

Birthplace:    New York 

Race:    White 

Relationship to head-of-house:    Son 

Image source:    Year: 1900; Census Place:

 Manhattan, New York, New York; Roll: T623 1108; Page:

 5B; Enumeration District: 610.

Location- Broadway

Annie Creen Head 41, January 1854 - Three

 children, 2 living born NY, parents born NY

Isabella, Daughter 18  Feb 1882 NY Telephone

 Clerk

Rufus, Son 15, May 1885 NY Wagon Boy, Dry Goods

All can read and write

 

 

 

Is buaine port ná glór na n-éan,

Is buaine focal ná toice an tsaoil.

A tune is more lasting than the song of the

 birds,                                  And a word

 more lasting than the wealth of the world.

 

 

 

 

Mon, 19 Sep 2005 04:42:49 -0700 (PDT)

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Subject: [Cryan et al.] Ellis Island records contd - Creen

   

1.  Creen        1896  30       

2. ... Creen    Down    1903  26       

3. Agnes Creen    Belfast, Ireland    1921  57 

     

4. Ann E. Creen    Sheffield    1906  44       

5. Anna P. Creen    America    1911  17       

6. Auguste Creen        1922  17       

7. Auguste Creen        1923  18       

8. Augusto Creen        1922  18       

9. Brid. Creen    Q'town    1892  17       

10. Bridget Creen    Athleague    1902  22     

 

11. Edward Creen    N.Y.    1914  52       

12. George Creen        1892         

13. Hugh Creen    Castregregory, Ireland    1921

  20 

    

14. James Creen        1901  35       

15. James Creen    Graffy, Ireland    1915  24 

     

16. Jeremiah Creen    Holyoke, Mass., America 

  1922

62       

17. John Creen        1918         

18. John Creen        1918  20       

19. John Gordon Creen    Hove, England    1923

  21   

  

20. Katie Creen    Bulkina, Ireland    1914  18 

    

 

21. Louis Creen        1921  16       

22. Louis Creen        1922  16       

23. Louis Creen        1920  17       

24. Louis Creen        1922  17       

25. Luisa Creen    Rovito, Casenza    1914  17 

 

26. Mary Creen    Dublin    1892  19       

27. Mary Creen    New York    1915         

28. May Creen        1922         

29. Sarah Creen        1895  20       

30. Thomas Creen    Athleague    1902  24       

31. Thomas Creen    Listowel    1900  22       

32. Thomas Creen    Rathfriland, Ireland    1911

  28 

    

33. William Creen        1921  25       

34. William Creen        1915  36       

35. William Francis Creen        1918  22 

 

 

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Wed, 21 Sep 2005 13:57:47 -0700 (PDT)

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Subject: [Cryan et al.] Thank you!

   

Caoimhghin,

 

Thank you for the Creen info. I think my Creens

 all came earlier than Ellis Island. Do you know of

 Creen's that went through Castle Garden? Thank

 you! Kathleen

 

 

Is buaine port ná glór na n-éan,

Is buaine focal ná toice an tsaoil.

A tune is more lasting than the song of the

 birds,                                  And a word

 more lasting than the wealth of the world.

 

 

 

 

 

Thu, 29 Sep 2005 16:36:28 -0700 (PDT)

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Subject: Re: [Cryan et al.] ellis island records

To: "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>

   

These lists are great.

 

There are 3 I can identify.

 

12. Annie Cryan Ghroof 1900 age 17

She is the daughter of John Cryan and Honoria

  nee:

Lavin, my great Grand Parents

 

13. Annie Cryan Ghroof 1900 age 32  She was an

 aunt to

Annie & #49, I just don't know where she fits in

 the

Cryan Family

 

49. John Cryan Ghrrof 1900 age 19

He is also the son of John and Honoria Cryan

 

I have their immigration records.

 

Groof is actually Shroove.

 

I am still checking the rest of the lists, and if

 I

find anything I will let you know.

 

 

Edna Lydon Fuller

fuller_edna@yahoo.com

 

 

 

 

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Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 11:19:10 +0100

To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Subject: [Cryan et al.] D.N.A TEST

   

Hi,

Anyone have any info re the above,i am about to

  take a test along with a

possible distant kinsman.There are at least two

 companies that i have come

accross who specialise,anyone have any info?

Family Tree DNA and DNA Heritage.

Patrick

 

 

 

 

 

 

Tue, 25 Oct 2005 07:22:18 -0700 (PDT)

From: "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>  View Contact Details   Add Mobile Alert 

Subject: Re: [Cryan et al.] Ellis Island records

To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

   

Dear Maureen

For some strange reason I only found your email

 now

trawling back through a couple of hundred emails

 which

I really will have to start sorting and deleting.

 

 

I have been very busy with preparation for a new

exhibition of paintings in Dublin which finally

 opened

last Thursday in the cafe of the Alliance

 Francaise

[if anyone is interested: see

 http://gaelart.net].

 

I also finish my job on the 4 November and will

concentreate on art for the next year. However

 this

will also give me time to search for more

 articles in

the National Library again so any help with

transcription will be very much appreciated.

 

regards

caoimhghin

 

 

 

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Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 12:54:54 -0800

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Subject: [Cryan et al.] County Sligo Ireland, WorldGenWeb Project

   

 

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Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII

Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit

 

Lots of Cryan information to be found here.

 

 

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 Project

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http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlsli/index2.html

 

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Thu, 3 Nov 2005 08:13:56 -0800 (PST)

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Subject: [Cryan et al.] Researching O'Donnell's, Creen's, Dineen's, Harrigan's, Kerner's etc.

   

I haven't posted in awhile either -- just lurking

 as well. I am still researching for Rufus Joseph

 Creen info and family-- my great grandfather.

 

Descendants of John Creen

    

 1   John CREEN b: in New York 

..  +Anna "Annie" MINER b: January 1854 in New

 York 

... 2   Rufus Joseph CREEN b: May 1885 in New

  York City, New York d: Abt. 1940 in New York

.......  +Charlotte "Lottie" KERNER b: November

 27, 1886 in Brooklyn, New York d: March 13, 1959

 in New York m: October 26, 1904 in New York

... 2   Isabella CREEN b: February 1882 

 

As well as info on Michael and Mary Dineen

 O'Donnell. I can't seem to find when Michael died or

 where he is buried. I sent off for their son James'

 birth certificate since I actually found the

 right year- so am hopeful.

 

Descendants of Michael O'Donnell

    

 1   Michael O'DONNELL b: Abt. 1837 in Inishkeel

 Parish, County Donegal, Ireland d: possibly

 October 22, 1892 in Brooklyn, New York but I have no

 varification---

..  +Mary E. DINEEN b: April 1842 in Limerick,

 Ireland d: Aft. 1920 and before 1930 in New York at

 least I can't find her on a census -- m: Abt.

 1863 in Donegal, Ireland

... 2   Alice Mary O'DONNELL b: December 1869 in

 New York d: in New York

.......  +Eli A. KILLAM b: September 1870  m:

 Bef. 1893

... 2   James Joseph O'DONNELL b: July 17, 1881

 in New York City, New York d: December 8, 1931 in

 Brooklyn, New York

.......  +Mary HARRIGAN b: June 1880 in Brooklyn,

 New York d: January 28, 1914 in Brooklyn, New

 York m: Abt. 1900 in New York

...  *2nd Wife of James Joseph O'Donnell:  

.......  +Charlotte "Lottie" KERNER b: November

 27, 1886 in Brooklyn, New York d: March 13, 1959

 in New York m: 1923 in New York

 

I think it would also be wonderful to find

 descendants of Alice and Eli Killam/Kellam -- so am

 searching for them as well. I have a lot of

 questions :)

 

1930 United States Federal Census > New York >

 Kings > Brooklyn (Districts 1501-1750) > District

 1700

East 10th Street

Alice F. Kellam 55, WD $145.00 Rent NY, IRE, IRE

 married at  20 3 children, 3 living

Albert J. 32 NY, NJ, NY Newspaper Salesman WW1

 Veteran Single

Frank P. Briody 38, son in law, married at 28

 Account Atlantic Lighterage

Alice K. NY married at 25

Frank, 8 NY

Robert C. Griebe, married at 29 Unemployed,

 receives benefits NY

Ethel 30 married at 26

Robert C. 3

Kate Hannigan (Harrigan?) 85 Aunt age at marriage

 18 IRE, IRE, IRE 6 children, 1 living (I am

 wondering if this isn't the mother or an aunt of Mary

 Harrigan who was my great grandmother who died

 at a very young age-- I have her mother's name as

 Kate -- this Kate would have been born in 1845.

 The other weird thing is in the 1900, 1910 and

 1920 census it lists Mary's father John Harrigan as

 a widow?? Maybe he had an unmarried sister Kate?

 Or maybe John is really an uncle?? Needless to

 say I haven't gotten all my Harrigan's figured out.

 Mary's death certificate does not list any

 parents!! Frustrating!)

 

1920 United States Federal Census > New York >

 Kings > Brooklyn > District 716

3721 Fort Hamilton Parkway

Eli Kellam 52 NJ parents NY (this is incorrect,

 see previous census'), Pipe Fitter, Asbestos

 Manufacturer

Alice F. 45 NY IRE, IRE

Alice 25 NY Stenographer for Rubber Company

Albert- 23 Engineer, Merchant Man

Ethell- 21 College Student

Mary (Mary E. Dineen) O'Donnell- mother in law 75

 WD IRE, IRE, IRE (Doesn't remember immigration

 year or naturalization info but the info is listed

 in the 1900 census! Came to US in 1863 - 7

 children, 2 living)

James O'Donnell- brother in law 35 WD- wife was

 Mary Harrigan- Tape Cutter- Shipyard (my great

 grandfather)

Edwin- 13 in school

Lester- 12 in school (my grandfather)

James 9

Leroy 5

________

A lot of this is based on census records so I am

 not positive but fortunately I could easily trace

 John Harrigan through his trade as a tinsmith!

Descendants of Morris Harrigan, Sr.

    

 1   Morris HARRIGAN, Sr. b: 1765 in Ireland 

..  +MARY b: 1807 

... 2   Morris HARRIGAN b: Abt. 1828 in

 Ireland/Eng 

.......  +MARGARET b: Abt. 1825 in Ireland 

......... 3   Mary A. HARRIGAN b: Abt. 1849 

......... 3   Margaret A. HARRIGAN b: Abt. 1852 

......... 3   James L. HARRIGAN b: 1854 

......... 3   Lester A. HARRIGAN b: 1856 

......... 3   Morris W. HARRIGAN b: 1858 

......... 3   John F. HARRIGAN b: September 1859

 in New York 

.............  +KATE b: 1859 in New York d: in

 New York

............... 4   Mary HARRIGAN b: June 1880 in

 Brooklyn, New York d: January 28, 1914 in

 Brooklyn, New York

...................  +James Joseph O'DONNELL b:

 July 17, 1881 in New York City, New York d:

 December 8, 1931 in Brooklyn, New York m: Abt. 1900 in

 New York

............... 4   Anna F. HARRIGAN b: November

 1892 in Brooklyn, New York 

...................  +John A. O'BRIAN b: 1884 in

 New York 

............... 4   James A. HARRIGAN b: July

 1884 

............... 4   Joseph L. HARRIGAN b: May

 1886 

............... 4   John J. HARRIGAN b: August

 1888 

............... 4   William HARRIGAN b: September

 1890 

......... 3   Josephine HARRIGAN b: 1860 

......... 3   Albert C. HARRIGAN b: 1867 

 

 

Thanks for any and all help. Kathleen O'Donnell

 Grone

 

 

 

 

Sat, 19 Nov 2005 08:40:12 -0800 (PST)

From:  "Kathleen" <kgrone@yahoo.com>  Add to Address Book  Add Mobile Alert 

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Subject: [Cryan et al.] Ships Lists

   

Just Browsing. Does anyone know where I can find

 more information about a ship the Bridgewater? I

 can't seem to find much about it. I have googled

 and such. Thanks!

  

  I did find this little bit -- mentions a lot of

 other ships as well--

 http://www.coltoncompany.com/shipbldg/ussbldrs/prewwii/shipyards/cramp.htm

  I found the Bridgewater was built in 1853 and

 was a Clipper ship. It was on the Liverpool to NY

 route.

  

  Hope this info is helpful to someone--

  

  ARMSTRONG, CHAS W., 187                      SS

 Henry Chauncey

ARMSTRONG, CRI^S, 157                        SS

 City of Baltimore

ARMSTRONG, FANNY, 159                        SS

 City of Baltimore

ARMSTRONG, ISABELLA, 158                     SS

 City of Baltimore

ARMSTRONG, JAMES, 117                        SS

 City of Washington

ARMSTRONG, JANE, 38                          SS

 City of Washington

ARMSTRONG, JNO, 163                          Ship

 Lady Franklin

ARMSTRONG, JNO, 51                           Ship

 Emerald

ARMSTRONG, JOHN, 116                       

 Harvest Queen

ARMSTRONG, M, 72                            

 Africa

ARMSTRONG, MARY, 8                           Ship

 Palestine

ARMSTRONG, M^RS, 73                       

  Africa

ARMSTRONG, RICH^D, 134                       Ship

 Empire

ARMSTRONG, ROB^T L, 37                       SS

 City of Washington

 

  CREEHAN, PATK, 103                         

 Ship St. George

CREAN, MARY, 75                           

  Barque Archemedes

  

  MONTGOMERY, ANDREW, 119                      SS

 Bolivia

MONTGOMERY, FANNY, 59                        Ship

 Manhattan

MONTGOMERY, JOS, 93                          SS

 Vigo

MONTGOMERY, JOSEPH, 21                       SS

 Australia

MONTGOMERY, MACH^L, 58                       Ship

 Manhattan

  

  BERROCHET, CHAS, 530                         SS

 Wyoming

BERRY, B. H., 441                            City

 of Antwerp

BERRY, ELIZABETH, 277                        Ship

 Centurion

BERRY, HANNAH, 275                           Ship

 Centurion

BERRY, HURST, 278                            Ship

 Centurion

BERRY, ISABELLA, 118                         SS

 Sidonian

BERRY, JOHN, 60                              Ship

 Empire State

BERRY, MARTHA, 2                             SS

 Bolivia

BERRY, MARY ANN, 276                         Ship

 Centurion

BERRY, SAMUEL, 12                            Bark

 Ann D Richardson

BERRY, THOMAS, 1                             SS

 Bolivia

 

  O'DONNELL, ANN, 296                       

  Ship JJ Boyd

O'DONNELL, BESS, 62                          Lucy

 Thompson

O'DONNELL, BRIDGET, 329                      Ship

 Underwriter

O'DONNELL, BRIDGET, 346                      Ship

 Isaac Wright

O'DONNELL, CATH'N, 292                       Ship

 Underwriter

O'DONNELL, CECILIA, 110                      Bark

 Fanny

O'DONNELL, DANIEL, 189                       Ship

 Underwriter

O'DONNELL, DAVID, 74                         Ship

 Manhattan

O'DONNELL, DENIS, 147                        SS

 Bolivia

O'DONNELL, DENIS, 161                        SS

 Bolivia

O'DONNELL, ELINOR, 334                       Ship

 Underwriter

O'DONNELL, ELLEN, 295                        Ship

 JJ Boyd

O'DONNELL, ELLEN, 344                        SS

 Helvetia

O'DONNELL, FRANK, 345                        SS

 Helvetia

O'DONNELL, GRACE, 58                         Bark

 Fanny

O'DONNELL, HUGH, 460                         SS

 Australia

O'DONNELL, JAMES, 291                        Ship

 Underwriter

O'DONNELL, JAMES, 303                        Ship

 Isaac Wright

O'DONNELL, JA^S, 346                         SS

 Helvetia

O'DONNELL, JNO, 174                          Lucy

 Thompson

O'DONNELL, JNO, 346                          Ship

 Emerald Isle

O'DONNELL, JOHN, 137                         Ship

 Cornelia Lawrence

O'DONNELL, JOHN, 148                         SS

 Devonia

O'DONNELL, MARG^T, 289                       SS

 Chicago

O'DONNELL, MARIA, 290                        SS

 Chicago

O'DONNELL, MARY A, 116                       Ship

 Lady Franklin

O'DONNELL, MARY, 197                         Ship

 JJ Boyd

O'DONNELL, MARY, 347                         SS

 Helvetia

O'DONNELL, MAURICE, 105                      Bark

 Fanny

O'DONNELL, MCL., 277                         RMS

 Calabria

O'DONNELL, MICH^L, 348                       SS

 Helvetia

O'DONNELL, M^L, 296                          SS

 Chicago

O'DONNELL, PAT, 119                          Ship

 John Bright

O'DONNELL, PEGGY, 106                        Bark

 Fanny

O'DONNELL, ROSE ANN, 149                     SS

 Devonia

O'DONNELL, SARAH, 431                        SS

 Australia

O'DONNELL, THOMAS, 118                       Ship

 John Bright

O'DONNELL, WM, 82                         

  Barque Archemedes

 

  SHARP, AGNES, 61                             SS

 Glasgow

SHARP, ELIAS, 207                            SS

 Arizona

SHARP, ELIS^A, 208                           SS

 Arizona

SHARP, GEO, 19                               SS

 Henry Chauncey

SHARP, JANE, 60                              SS

 Glasgow

SHARP, LOUISA E., 209                        SS

 Arizona

SHARP, MRS GEO, 20                           SS

 Henry Chauncey

SHARP, THOMAS, 102                           Ship

 West Point

SHARPE, MS CAROLINE, 18                      Ship

 Palestine

SHARPE, ROBERT, 63                           Ship

 Cultivator

SHARPSEN, LOUIS, 75                          SS

 Henry Chauncey

  

  DINEEN, BRIDGET, 172                       

 Ship Underwriter

DINEEN, ELLEN, 323                           SS

 Chicago

DINEEN, MARY, 185                            Ship

 Underwriter

DINNEEN, ELLEN, 323                          SS

 Chicago

  

  JOHNSTON, ANN, 40                            SS

 Edinburgh

JOHNSTON, CATH, 90                           Ship

 Emerald

JOHNSTON, CHARLES, 62                        Ship

 Centurion

JOHNSTON, DAVID, 185                         R

 Peel

JOHNSTON, ELIZA, 58                       

  Barque Archemedes

JOHNSTON, ELIZA, 68                          SS

 Sidonian

JOHNSTON, FRANCIS, 176                       SS

 Bolivia

JOHNSTON, HANNAH, 59                       

 Barque Archemedes

JOHNSTON, HELLAN, 39                         SS

 Edinburgh

JOHNSTON, HENRY, 76                          SS

 City of London

JOHNSTON, ISABELLA, 221                   

  Steamer Pennsylvania

JOHNSTON, ISABELLA, 224                   

  Steamer Pennsylvania

JOHNSTON, JANE, 127                          SS

 Edinburgh

JOHNSTON, JAS, 220                         

 Steamer Pennsylvania

JOHNSTON, JAS, 3                             Ship

 Manhattan

JOHNSTON, JA^S, 41                           Ship

 JJ Boyd

JOHNSTON, JOHN J, 223                     

  Steamer Pennsylvania

JOHNSTON, JOHN, 250                       

  Steamer Pennsylvania

JOHNSTON, JOHN, 357                       

  Harvest Queen

JOHNSTON, JOHN, 487                          Ship

 Wm Tapscott

JOHNSTON, JOHN, 63                           SS

 City of London

JOHNSTON, JOS^, 10                           Ship

 William F Stern

JOHNSTON, MARGARET, 63                       Ship

 Centurion

JOHNSTON, MARY A, 157                        SS

 Helvetia

JOHNSTON, MARY, 155                          SS

 Helvetia

JOHNSTON, MARY, 226                          Ship

 William F Stern

JOHNSTON, MARY, 251                       

  Steamer Pennsylvania

JOHNSTON, MERON, 222                       

 Steamer Pennsylvania

JOHNSTON, MERON, 225                        

 Steamer Pennsylvania

JOHNSTON, ROB^T, 146                         SS

 Helvetia

JOHNSTON, SAMUEL, 2                          SS

 Caledonia

JOHNSTON, SARAH, 135                         SS

 Caledonia

JOHNSTON, SUSAN, 41                       

  Barque Archemedes

JOHNSTON, SUSAN, 64                          Ship

 Centurion

JOHNSTON, THO^S ?., 156                      SS

 Helvetia

JOHNSTON, WILLIAM, 177                       SS

 Bolivia

JOHNSTON, WILLIAM, 201                       Ship

 Washington

JOHNSTONE, ANNE, 67                       

  Barque Archemedes

JOHNSTONE, ROBERT, 145                       SS

 Caledonia

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Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 07:19:16 EST

Subject: A brief Hello from a Cryans.......

To: caoimhghin@yahoo.com

    Hello Caoimhghin,

 

I've just found your website while looking for some information on my family name, CRYANS.

 

Your site is pretty amazing.

 

Most of my family are in the Glasgow area, though I live about 30 miles north of London in Hertfordshire.

 

I am only just starting to look into this family history stuff but I believe that my family had moved from the Sligo area around the time of the Famine.

 

Well, just saying hello really, and no need to bother replying as you must get zillions of e-mails each day from family history buffs.

 

Cheerio the noo,

 

Joe Cryans

 

 

 

 

 

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Date: 27 Jan 2006 00:07:02 +0000

To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

   

Me neither. Hope all are well and do let us know

 updates on your family

research. My cryan lines come from Brogher

 townland (County Sligo),

Swampscott, Wareham and Somerset (Massachusetts),

 and Mercer County

(Pennsylvania). The family spelled the name Crain

 in western Pennsylvania.

Karen

 

 

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Subject: [Cryan et al.] Re: CRYAN-D Digest V06 #1

   

Thought I would post my CREEN family -- Nice to

 hear from people! :) Katheen

 

Descendants of John Creen

 

    1      John CREEN    b: in New York

..        +Anna "Annie" MINER    b: January 1854

 in New York

...    2      Rufus Joseph CREEN    b: May 1885

 in New  York City, New

York    d: Abt. 1940 in New York

.......        +Charlotte "Lottie" KERNER    b:

 November 27, 1886 in

Brooklyn, New York    d: March 13, 1959 in New

 York    m: October 26, 1904

in New York

.........    3      Isabell M. CREEN    b:

 October 5, 1905 in Brooklyn, New

York    d: October 1, 1938 in Queens County, New

 York

.............        +Lester Aloyisius O'DONNELL

    b: August 30, 1908 in

Flatbush, Brooklyn, New York    d: March 2, 1992

 in Yonkers, New York    m:

1923 in Brooklyn, New York

.........    3      Rufus Joseph CREEN, Jr.    b:

 December 15, 1908 in New

York    d: January 1985 in Riverhead, New York

.............        +Eleanor A.            m:

 October 2, 1910

.........    3      Jessica CREEN    b: 1912

...    2      Isabella CREEN    b: February 1882

 

 

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Pat Cryans" <pat@pcryans.fsnet.co.uk>  Add to Address Book  Add Mobile Alert 

Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 13:21:19 -0000

To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Subject: [Cryan et al.] update

   

Hi everyone,

Regarding the name my family who moved from Sligo

 in 1870 to Glasgow had the

name on various documents as,  Crinn  Creon Cryan

 Crean Creighan and finally

Cryans,when you have an Irishman relaying info to

 a Scotsman they most

probably got as near phonetically as possible. I

 do think that it also

depends on where you lived re.dialect etc. in

 Ballymote they tend to say

Crine as opposed to Cry -an,where as the further

 south you go say towards

Roscommon and Leitrim(Carrick on Shannon) they

 say Cry-an in Mayo they would

say Cre-han.If you look up the various records

 for Tawnagh Parish

(Riverstown) Sligo  between 1800 -1830 the name

 is Krine.

Can anyone help me with regard to my family, my

 grandfather was Patrick

Cryan ,he had 10 children 9 boys 1girl he named

 his first son after his

father Owen and the others were the usual ones

 Joseph John's etc and a

Patrick who died aged 15 years,but i noticed that

 only my father named me

after his father,when you think there were over

 35 grandchildren but only

one named after the grandfather unusual? would

 this be due to superstition

because my Uncle Patrick died so young,any

 thought's.

Best wishes Patrick

 

 

 

Laura" <michaeldarcher@eircom.net>  Add to Address Book  Add Mobile Alert 

To: caoimhghin@yahoo.com

Subject: Cryan Family Tree Ireland.

Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2006 10:35:08 -0000

    Hello,

 

I came across some of your entries by accident in a Google Search.  A lot of the places the Cryan Family come from are Townlands in the Parish of Boyle, Co. Roscommon.  Estersnow is in the Parish of Croghan.  Kiltycreighton – not Cultacreighton, is in the parish of Boyle.  Maybe I can help?

 

 

 

Laura

 

 

 

 

Sun, 14 May 2006 04:07:42 -0700 (PDT)

From: "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>  View Contact Details   Add Mobile Alert 

To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Subject: [Cryan et al.] war memorials

   

Hi

Has anyone seen this site or got any more

 information

about this John Creane?

 

http://www.irishwarmemorials.ie/html/persons.html

 

 

Creane, John (Seán Ó Croidheáin)   Civil War 

 IRA 

Taghmon   Civil War Memorial   Private; put to

 death

13 March 1923. 

 

caoimhghin

 

 

 

 

Thomas Crane" <tccrane@peoplepc.com>  Add to Address Book  Add Mobile Alert 

To: "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>

CC: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Subject: Re: [Cryan et al.] war memorials

Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 18:13:34 -0500

   

Very interesting, Caoimhghin.

 

I seem to recall coming across his name a number

 of years ago; let us say

about 20 or 25, if I am not mistaken.  I vaguely

 recall that he was tried

and convicted and then shot in Dublin.  When I

 went back to do further

research on him, I could not find any reference

 and due to my somewhat

addled mind, I could not recall where I saw the

 original reference.  So

please, do not ask me.  I am approaching the age

 where I have to remember

whether or not I put my pants on before I go out

 of the house.

 

On the other hand, since he was a Wexford man, he

 is no doubt descended from

the Cranes or Creanes of Slovey, County Wexford.

  That is where I found the

heaviest concentration of this branch of the

 family.  I have made mention of

that fact in my book, "Green Is The Valley, Blue

 Are The Hills."  The

Creanes or Cranes of Slovey devoted over 30 sons

 and daughters to the

Catholic clergy going back to 1690.  I had the

 distinct honor of visiting

with and shaking the hand of Peter Crane who was

 the last male surviving

member of that family.  Peter, God rest his soul,

 died in December of 1983.

 

A further note is the fact that it has been

 believed by some others that

this branch of the Cranes were of Norman

 extraction.  Now that the Irish

spelling of his name has been definitely

 identified as being "Croidheain"

that puts him and, more than likely, the rest of

 the Cranes of Wexford in

the direct line of Irish ancestry such as

 yourself.

 

Given enough time; that is, provided we should

 live long enough to see it

come about, much of our interest in Irish

 genealogy will be satisfied.

Thanks to your eagle eye, Caoimhghin, another

 mystery may have been solved.

 

God bless,

 

Tom Crane (USA)

 

P.S.  For those who might be interested, my book

 is posted on the website,

"Fethard At Home" and can be read in its entirety

 free of charge.  The URL

is http://fethard.com/crane   Have a nice day!

 

 

 

 

Fri, 2 Jun 2006 10:41:57 -0700 (PDT)

From: "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>  View Contact Details   Add Mobile Alert 

To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Subject: [Cryan et al.] Sinn Fein and Republican Suspects 1899-1921 

   

Dear all

 

Eneclann in conjunction with the Public Records

Office, London, England present a first time

publication of the Dublin Castle intelligence

 files on

individual Sinn Fein and Republican suspects

 between

1899 and 1921

Item # CD15

Price: €49.90 or US$49.95 (plus postage &

 packing)

Library/Network editions contact us for price.

ISBN 1-905118-05-8 [CD Version]; 1-905118-06-6

 [DVD

Version]

 

Sinn Fein and Republican Suspects 1899-1921

Dublin Castle Special Branch Files CO 904

 (193-216)

List of individuals with files:

 

Crean, Jeremiah (CO904/197/84)

 

http://eneclann.ie/publications-17-list.asp

 

caoimhghin

 

 

 

Fri, 2 Jun 2006 10:43:39 -0700 (PDT)

From: "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>  View Contact Details   Add Mobile Alert 

To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Subject: [Cryan et al.] Cryan Article in Irish Roots

   

Dear all

 

An article I wrote on my grand uncle, Stephen

 Cryan,

has been published in the current issue of Irish

Roots.

 

caoimhghin

 

 

Fri, 2 Jun 2006 11:10:17 -0700 (PDT)

From: "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>  View Contact Details   Add Mobile Alert 

To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Subject: [Cryan et al.] cryan, crean, crehan in irish newspaper archives

   

Dear all

 

The Irish Newspaper Archives extends to over 1

 million

pages of Irish news publications at present.

 Irish

Newspaper Archive Ltd is launching this

 comprehensive

website on behalf of Irish newspaper proprietors

 and

is marketing this site directly to libraries,

universities and individuals around the world on

 a

subscription basis. This archive consists of

continuous news publications from 1763 up to

 current

month.

 

These papers are on-line:

Connacht Tribune

Freemans Journal

Irish Farmers Journal

Irish Independent

Leitrim Observer

Meath Chronicle

Sunday Independent

The Anglo-celt

The Connaught Telegraph

The Tuam Herald

 

I did a search for

Cryan and got 3962 results,

8832 for crean

1867 for crehan

 

http://irishnewspaperarchives.com/

 

You can use this site for free to get lists of

references but must pay to get details. If anyone

 does

use the site I am sure it would very much

 appreciated

if any new material or references were posted to

 the

list.

regards

caoimhghin

 

 

 

Pat Cryans" <pat@pcryans.fsnet.co.uk>  Add to Address Book  Add Mobile Alert 

Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 19:06:33 +0100

To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Subject: [Cryan et al.] DNA RESULTS

   

Hi all,

Just obtained my results from the above test, and

 the man at Family Tree

DNA( Austin Rock) informs me that my  origins are

 in Mid- Ulster which

coincides with what a Dr Michael Cryan (Salthill

 Galway) told me over 20

years ago, that there is a family legend and a

 map showing the Cryne family

in what would be called Tyrone. The map by

 Baptista Boazio dated 1599 is

available from the British Museum. Michael's

 family originated in Keash Co

Sligo, there being 2 brothers Michael and

 Bernard, Michael moving to the

townland of Knocknaskea,Killavill near Gurteen

 Sligo about 1800 and Bernard

staying in Keash. A descendent Thomas Cryan lives

  in Knocknaskea  on the

original farm. Don't forget if any male Cryan's

 would like to carry out the

DNA test contact Family Tree on the internet it

 is very easy.

Patrick

 

 

 

 

Mon, 12 Jun 2006 18:32:15 -0400

From: "Maureen McCourt Nantista" <mornan@optonline.net>  Add to Address Book  Add Mobile Alert 

To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Subject: [Cryan et al.] Re: DNA RESULTS

   

Hi Patrick,

 

    Am so jealous :-)

 

    My mother, Eileen Cryan, was an only child

 and I haven't found a

direct-line male Cryan descendant going all the

 way back to my

great-grandfather and his brothers.

 

    Please keep us posted on any matches.

 

Maureen Nantista

Huntington, NY

 

Karen McElrath" <K.McElrath@qub.ac.uk>  View Contact Details   Add Mobile Alert 

To: "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>

CC: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Subject: Re: [Cryan et al.] DNA

Date: 10 Jul 2006 19:51:55 +0000

   

As Pat Cryans explained, I think for family gen.

 they test the male line

only. I've seen it advertised through ROOTSWEB or

 Ancestry.com. Please let

us know test results though. It's interesting

 stuff, and the NY Times

featured an article on DNA testing and geneology

 a few months ago. Best,

Karen

 

 

Matt&Crystal Hamel" <mchamel@hotmail.com>  Add to Address Book  Add Mobile Alert 

Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2006 11:47:51 +0000

To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Subject: [Cryan et al.] DNA

   

I am very interested in doing the DNA testing but

 being a female, all I

would be able to learn about would be my mom's

 side.  I AM interested in her

side but really wanted to find out my Crehan

 family which is on my dad's

side.  So, at this point, I don't know if it's

 worth it.  Any suggestions?

 

Crystal Hamel

 

 

Matt&Crystal Hamel" <mchamel@hotmail.com>  Add to Address Book  Add Mobile Alert 

Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2006 13:37:42 +0000

To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Subject: [Cryan et al.] Another question

   

Does it matter which DNA test group you use?  I

 was thinking about the

National Geographic DNA testing they have. Does

 anyone know which group is

better to use?

 

Crystal

 

 

 

Fri, 21 Jul 2006 09:31:39 -0600

From: "K. M. O'Donnell" <kogrone@gmail.com>  Add to Address Book  Add Mobile Alert 

To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Subject: [Cryan et al.] A New Generation

   

We are proud to announce the birth of our first

 grandchild, Alexys Marie

Grone Wolberg, born July 17th. Grandma is an

 O'Donnell! She is adorable! To

see photos go to flickr below! We are rejoicing!

 

 

 

Patrick Cryans" <patrickfrancis@talktalk.net>  Add to Address Book  Add Mobile Alert 

To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 17:33:48 +0100

Subject: [CRYAN] DNA

   

Hi,

Just thought i would try again with this request

 , anyone interested in

taking the test with Family Tree DNA the cost for

 the cheapest test is £

50.00(FIFTY) i and another cryan have taken the

 test but we need other

cryan's to join in.

You will need to be a male cryan for this

 y-chromosome test,it will resolve

the cryan -crean debate as well.

Patrick

 

 

 

 

Patrick Cryans" <patrickfrancis@talktalk.net>  Add to Address Book  Add Mobile Alert 

To: "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>

Subject: Re: [CRYAN] DNA

Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 09:33:04 +0100

   

Hi Caoimhghin,

I started with THE 12 marker cost $149 then went

 for the 25 marker and have

now gone for 37 marker as the other cryan are 2

 markers out so i have been

advised to go for the 37 marker,please look at

 the site i would be

interested in any comments you might have i know

 some people may think it is

good way to poor money down the drain but it will

 help out with Crean Cryan

etc.

My own markers have indicated a close link to a

 Faughnan family in Leitrim.

Let me know your views Patrick

 

 

 

Mon, 23 Oct 2006 17:43:47 -0700 (PDT)

From: "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>  View Contact Details   Add Mobile Alert 

To: "cryan list" <CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com>

Subject: [CRYAN] New book on culture and Irish - 'Language from Below'

   

Dear all,

 

I know that this book does not refer to Cryans

 [other

than it has been written by a Cryan!] but some

researchers may find its history of Irish

 nationalism

and the Irish language interesting for background

material. Therefore I announce that my PhD thesis

 has

finally been published by Peter Lang academic

publishers. It is entitled 'Language from Below:

 The

Irish Language, Ideology and Power in 20th

 Century

Ireland'. There is a book synopsis below.

 

More information about the book may be found at:

http://gaelart.net/lfbpage.html

 

I hope this of some interest to the members of

the list.

 

Caoimhghin Ó Croidheáin

 

 

"Patrick Cryans" <patrickfrancis@talktalk.net>  Add to Address Book  Add Mobile Alert 

To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2006 19:08:23 -0000

Subject: [CRYAN] Griffith's Valuation of Ireland

   

Hi,

Can anyone let me know if they have any info

 regarding books called House

and Tenure with regard to the above records. It

 is possible that they have

a little more info than the actual Griffith's

  Valuation.

Patrick

 

 

Ann Simpson" <ann.simpson40@ntlworld.com>  Add to Address Book  Add Mobile Alert 

To: CAOIMHGHIN@YAHOO.COM

Subject: About FindingThe Crean Family

Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2006 15:39:55 -0000

    Hi Kevin.

 

My brother John Paul Crean met you several years ago at a meeting in Galway and you gave him your e-mail address.

He said that you were looking up the ancestors of the Crean Family. He gave me this e-mail address but

I had lost it and have only just found itagain. I did attempt to trace you on a web site but I am not sure if it

was you that I turned up. Sadly my brother died three years ago, he is buried in Athlegue cemetery in

Roscommon.

 

My father was John Crean from Loughglynn he was born March 30 1893 and died in Northenden, Manchester

20th October 1967. His wife Martha Finan was also from Loughglynn and she outlived him by just four years.

 

If you can shed any light on the family history I would be pleased to hear it.

 

I look forward  to hear from you.

 With regards  Ann Simpson (nee Crean)

 

 

 

Patrick Cryans" <patrickfrancis@talktalk.net>  Add to Address Book  Add Mobile Alert 

To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 22:38:50 -0000

Subject: [CRYAN] Tithe Records

   

Hi,

Does anyone have any of the above for the County

 Roscommon -Ardcarn Parish-

Cryanstown(Aghrafinigan) Townland.

Patrick

 

 

paul gunning" <shellyriver@hotmail.com>  Add to Address Book  Add Mobile Alert 

To: caoimhghin@yahoo.com

Subject: Creans - Roscommon/Sligo

Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2007 18:41:33 +0000

    Hi -

 

My name is Paul Gunning, I am from Sligo and previously was a reporter for the Roscommon Herald (I have met Father Leonard, a few times - he is possibly more intrigued with Junior GAA football than local history!!).

 

I read your comments regarding an inscription with the O'Crean family motto - ie Within Me Place a Pure Heart etc.

 

I too was curious if the said chair had anything to do with Bishop Crean, along with anything as to its provenance. It is possible, however, the Creans were in Sligo Town in O'Creans Castle and Andrew Crean was transplanted to Mayo in the 1650s. know that the Daniel Crean was OP of the Sligo Dominicians during the mid-1700s, it may have been his.

 

I have been researching the Sligo Creans for about a year.

 

Any assistance would be great.

 

Regards

 

Paul G.

 

 

 

 

Mon, 5 Mar 2007 16:25:05 -0800 (PST)

From: "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>  View Contact Details   Add Mobile Alert 

Subject: Re: Creans - Roscommon/Sligo

To: "paul gunning" <shellyriver@hotmail.com>

   

Dear Paul

 

Delighted to hear you are doing some research on

 the

Creans. I assunme you saw the pics at

http://geocities.com/caoimhghin/throne.html

 

I am afraid I dont know anymore than you. It must

 have

been associated with crean bishop with that crean

motto carved on it. I suppose if the chair was

evaluated by an antiques expert then we could see

which bishops there were at the time.

 

How is Father Leonard?

 

If you have any Crean material would you be able

 to

put it on the cryan list on rootsweb.com? [Are

 you on

the cryan list? Have you seen

http://geocities.com/caoimhghin/familyhistory.html?]

 

best regards

caoimhghin

 

 

 

 

paul gunning" <shellyriver@hotmail.com>  Add to Address Book  Add Mobile Alert 

To: caoimhghin@yahoo.com

Subject: Re: Creans - Roscommon/Sligo

Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2007 11:24:34 +0000

   

 

 

 

Dear Caoimhghin

 

Thanks for your prompt reply and helpful link. I didn't actually see the picture previous to your email. I would be amazed and thrilled to discover if the connection with the Creans of Sligo is proven.

 

I searched eagerly to if there was any indication of the Creans' families crest -- but I couldn't see it -- however, it may have been there in the past, or alternately it may be there on closer inspection. Some might the motto, being a direct Bibilical quote is merely coincidental, however I think it is fair to say, on the balance of probabilities, it is most likely in some way associated with the Creans, considering their ecclesiastical associations in the North-West of Ireland.

 

As an aside, considering the Creans' maritime associations, it is ironically apt, that it was decided to transfix a helm upon the Throne!! 

 

In any event, you may be aware, that Dr Douglas Hyde has strong south Sligo links with his father was a Rector in Geevagh, Co Sligo (my mother's native parish) when he was born -- apparently he was born, when his mother was on a short visit to her family in Frenchpark.

 

As to the fFrenches of Frenchpark - they too -- like the Crean clan -- have very strong medieval Sligo Town connections, with both families, during the early C17th, being the leading money-lenders in the region.

 

I believe, the Frenchs, along with the Creans, were the most notable Sligo transplanted family post-1641. This is important because Sligo was the only county in the West where the native Irish were not permitted to move, due to the fact the soliders from the Elizabethan period had already taken most of the plum locations, and there was no room for the natives!

 

You are aware, I am sure, of the fact that Bishop Crean - had the notable distinction of being simulateanously, the Bishop of Elphin for the Established Church and the Roman Catholic Church. To become the Established Bishop he had to travel Dublin to be granted his Government's approval, which provided him with the rights regarding Tithes etc. Previously, he had travelled to Rome on his way to the Eternal City, but became ill in France and never made it there.

 

As, like so many of the Creans of Sligo Town, successfully straddled, intra-Gaelic worlds between Lower Connaught and Tyrconnell, along with the advancing despite the turbulent relationships between the Irish and English, it came as no surprise that Bishop Crean achieved this feat of ecumenicalism!

 

It is generally assumed, Sligo Abbey, in which this throne -- if it belonged to Bishop Crean -- was destroyed in 1641, burned by the Cromwellian leader, and successfully Planter Francis Hamilton, by my research shows this to be propaganda and untrue. The imputation is that the fabric and materials within the Abbey were destroyed -- which was again compounded by the inequities during the Penal Era. However, these assertions are somewhat simplistic and erroneous historically.

 

I would have thought any artefacts belonging to the Creans of this nature, would have been coveted by the prestigious and high-ranking Creans in Crean Castle or by Andrew Crean of Annaghmore -- who I referred to previously. However, it is quite possible, the Church (of which denomination, we'll have to yet discover maintained the period piece!) managed to maintain possession of the Throne. The intrigue of it all!!

 

I too would love to have the throne inspected and appraised, by an expert so to have it dated and acquire some information regarding its provenance, with particular reference to its wood, style, joints etc so as to date it accurately.

 

My first impression is that it could hardly be Elizabethan -- then again, some elements of it could have been incorporated into a pre-existing Throne. Also, the Latin phrase, which was synonymous with Sligo/Gaelic and ultimately Catholic overtones would have have found favour in the C17th/C18th Sligo which outside of Ulster was the most Protestant urban centre in Ireland, so this particular piece of furniture may have become repugnant to the Faithful in Sligo.

 

In any event, let's see. It's a wonderful find with potentially huge significance concerning the travails of the Creans of Sligo Town.

 

I have been researching, with the view to publish a book regarding the history of Sligo, for a number of years  (on and off) however I don't know if I'll ever finish it or ultimately be prepared to have it published. In any event, I am hoping to give a talk regarding the O'Crean Clan of Sligo -- there are, I believe, some very significant historical points to made concerning their history, which really touches upon the history of South Donegal, North Sligo and Moylurg (as the Creans intermarried withRThe MacDermotts of Drumadoney).

 

I have attempted, to pen my research over the Christmas, it rapidly expanded to 100 A4 pages, to I haven't had the time to finialise my research and theories -- as I am taking by final exams in Kings Inns. Until then, I won't be in a position to add anything to the Cryan thread.

 

Once again, thanks for your help and emails. Talk to you soon.

 

Regards

 

Paul Gunning

 

 

Wed, 9 May 2007 05:11:27 -0700 (PDT)

From: "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>  View Contact Details   Add Mobile Alert 

Subject: Re: croghan

To:  "Louise Said" <louise_fms@yahoo.com.au>

   

Hi Louise

Everything I have I put on my Cryan page [

http://geocities.com/caoimhghin/familyhistory.html

 ]

so the best thing is to download all the files

 and do

a search on Croghan. Also you could join the

 Cryan

list and then post all your details as there are

 many

researchers who know a lot on the different

 variations

of the name.

 

good luck with the search

caoimhghin

 

 

 

 

 

Patrick Cryans" <patrickfrancis@talktalk.net>  Add to Address Book  Add Mobile Alert 

To: CRYAN-L@rootsweb.com

Date: Sun, 20 May 2007 09:57:53 +0100

Subject: [CRYAN] The townland of Carrownamaddoo in the Parish of St John; s Sligo

   

Hi,

Anyone help with any info on the above townland ?

 I have turned my research

into the area as i have discovered a Owen Judge

 and Patt Cryan living side

by side according to the Tithe Records .In the

 Griffith's there is only Patt

Cryan shown i think a daughter Mary Cryan married

  a Patrick Hargadon about

1880 i think he may have been from a townland

 near Ballysadare but on the

1901 census they are shown as living in

 Carrownamaddoo.

I have sent off for copies of the Land records

 from Abbey Life (The

Valuation Office) Dublin they start about 1858

 -1950 to see what they show

as my family left about 1870 to live in Glasgow.

I have also found a death of a Patrick Cryan 1879

 in Anaghermore(not sure of

spelling) near Ballysadare my ancestor who was a

 Patrick was dead prior to

1880 so this could be a link.

Anyone have any info that could help please

 contact.Would anyone know what

would be the nearest church that they would have

 attended as St John's was a

way off to the north.

Patrick Cryans

 

 

 

 

Jeff" <vortex6066@yahoo.com.au>  Add to Address Book  Add Mobile Alert 

To: CRYAN@rootsweb.com

Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 10:33:25 +1200

Subject: [CRYAN] Doctor D. Cryan of Paisley, Glasgow

   

Hi,

Id like to ask if anyone knows about a Dr. D

 Cryan who was in Paisley, Glasgow in the 1960's.

Im trying to find out if he is still alive or

 not, as whe might have information about my

 grandmother.

Anything you can tell me would be greatly

 appreciated.

kind regards,

JEFF

New Zealand

 

 

 

cryan@rootsweb.com

Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 03:49:43 -0400

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Subject: Re: [CRYAN] Doctor D. Cryan of Paisley, Glasgow

   

Hi Jeff,

 

Dr. Cryan was my uncle but he died in the 1970s.

 What information were you looking for regarding

 your grandmother ?

 

Best regards

 

Daniel Cryan

 

 

 

Patrick Cryans" <patrickfrancis@talktalk.net>  Add to Address Book  Add Mobile Alert 

To: cryan@rootsweb.com

Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 10:17:50 +0100

Subject: Re: [CRYAN] Doctor D. Cryan of Paisley, Glasgow

   

Hi Jeff,

May be the Dr Cryan was related to the Cryan's

 who left for the USA,they

were Martin Cryan and  a Daniel Cryan who

 originated from Co Roscommon being

the children of Daniel Cryan and i think a

 Margaret McDonagh.

They may have lived in the Maryhill area of

 Glasgow.

Patrick Cryans

 

 

 

cryan@rootsweb.com

Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 06:00:37 -0400

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Subject: Re: [CRYAN] Doctor D. Cryan of Paisley, Glasgow

   

Just to clarify . Maryhill is a district in the

 west end of Glasgow . Paisley in a separate town

 or Burgh as we call them in Scotland, around 8

 miles away from Glasgow. There was only one Doctor

 Daniel Cryan in Paisley and he was my uncle. I

 don't know of any Doctor Cryan from Maryhill.

 

Regards

 

Daniel Cryan

 

 

 

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To: cryan@rootsweb.com

Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 08:05:07 +1200

Subject: Re: [CRYAN] Doctor D. Cryan of Paisley, Glasgow

   

Hi Daniel,

Thanks for replying.

My interest in Dr Cryan was a long shot, as his

 name appeared on the

recently discovered death certificate of my

 grandmother Helen Taylor, the

death was registered by her daughter Jean Krennen

 (Jane Taylor)  in 1961. My

mother was adopted at birth, so knew nothing of

 her birth mother or that she

had a sister. Have been trying to locate Jean.  -

 address was in Crawfurd

Drive, Paisley then in 1961. I thought if Dr

 Cryan was alive, he might have

known Jean as a patient, and what became of her.

regards,

JEFF

 

 

 

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Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 08:41:26 +1200

Subject: Re: [CRYAN] Doctor D. Cryan of Paisley, Glasgow

   

Hi Daniel,

Another related question - would you know what

 sort of practice Dr Cryan

had? Im wondering if he had a partnership, and

 whether he handed over his

patients to another doctor before he retired?

 There may be another doctor

(alive) who has taken on his former patients.

JEFF

 

 

 

cryan@rootsweb.com

Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 03:44:14 -0400

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Subject: Re: [CRYAN] Doctor D. Cryan of Paisley, Glasgow

   

Jeff,

 

My uncle was in General Practice together with

 Doctor Gray in Paisley during the sixties. I don't

 know whether he is still alive but given that it

 was 40 yrs ago and he wasn't a young man then, I

 would very much doubt it.

I don't know what happened to the practice as I

 was not living in the west of Scotland throughout

 the eighties.There have been a lot of changes in

 the National Health Service here over the last

 twenty years.

My uncle knew his patients pretty well but all

 that information died with him I'm afraid.

Sorry but maybe this isn't going to be a good

 line of enquiry.Good luck with your search.

 

Best regards

 

Daniel Cryan

 

 

 

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Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 08:16:35 +1200

Subject: Re: [CRYAN] Doctor D. Cryan of Paisley, Glasgow

   

Thanks for the information Daniel. It was a long

 shot, but thought idea was

worth following through on. Have lots of posts on

 various message boards,

but no leads so far.

All the best,

JEFF

 

 

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Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2007 18:13:22 +0100

Subject: [CRYAN] The McGuinn's

   

Hi All,

Does anyone have any info on the above family who

 lived in the St Johns

Parish of Sligo, there was a Catherine McGuinn

 who was married to a Patrick

Cryan and they had at least one daughter named

 Margaret born 1858. They

lived in a townland called Carrownamaddoo or

 Carrownamadda,quite near Loch

Gill.

Patrick

 

 

Thu, 27 Sep 2007 04:09:36 -0700 (PDT)

From: "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>  View Contact Details   Add Mobile Alert 

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Subject: [CRYAN] 1841 census

   

Dear all

There hasnt been much activity on the list for a

while. I have been busy with other things too. I

 am

hoping to go back to the Roscommon Herald

 archives

again soon in the National Library  to continue

 the

search for Cryan/Crean etc articles/references.

 

There seems to be more and more material

 computerised

and shown on sites such as Find my Past. Below is

 a

sample search for Cryan in the 1841 census. Is

 there

any point putting such lists on the Cryan List?

 Any

comments on what is useful for the list? Any new

material - specific or general that could be

 shared?

 

caoimhghin

 

 

1841 census person search results Your search has

returned 62 results. 

 

Search criteria used:

Last name : Cryan    Searching within :

 Households,

Institutions, Vessels   

 

http://www.findmypast.com/CensusPersonSearchResultServlet?pageDirection=next&recordPosition=50

 

Household CRYAN, Allice 5 F Manchester VIEW  VIEW

 

Household CRYAN, Andrew 15 M Stockport VIEW  VIEW

 

Household CRYAN, Ann 5 F Manchester VIEW  VIEW

Household CRYAN, Ann 12 F Manchester VIEW  VIEW

Household CRYAN, Ann 35 F Manchester VIEW  VIEW

Household CRYAN, Ann 15 F Manchester VIEW  VIEW

Household CRYAN, Benjamin 5 M Manchester VIEW

  VIEW

Household CRYAN, Bernard 30 M Manchester VIEW

  VIEW

Household CRYAN, Bridget 60 F Stockport VIEW

  VIEW

Household CRYAN, Bridget 12 F Chorley VIEW  VIEW

Household CRYAN, Bridget 30 F Bolton VIEW  VIEW

Household CRYAN, Bridget 20 F Manchester VIEW

  VIEW

Household CRYAN, Catharine 15 F Manchester VIEW

  VIEW

Household CRYAN, Catharine 15 F Manchester VIEW

  VIEW

Household CRYAN, Catharine 20 F Manchester VIEW

  VIEW

Household CRYAN, Edward 15 M Manchester VIEW

  VIEW

Household CRYAN, Elizabath 50 F Camberwell VIEW

  VIEW

Household CRYAN, Elizabeth 10 F Manchester VIEW

  VIEW

Household CRYAN, Ellen 70 F Manchester VIEW  VIEW

 

Household CRYAN, Ellen 15 F Manchester VIEW  VIEW

 

Household CRYAN, Ellen 45 F Manchester VIEW  VIEW

 

Household CRYAN, Hannah 35 F Bradford VIEW  VIEW

Household CRYAN, Hannah 1 F Bradford VIEW  VIEW

Household CRYAN, Harriet 3 F Manchester VIEW

  VIEW

Household CRYAN, Hooney 15 F Manchester VIEW

  VIEW

Household CRYAN, James 14 M Manchester VIEW  VIEW

 

Household CRYAN, James 5 M Manchester VIEW  VIEW

Household CRYAN, John 15 M Stockport VIEW  VIEW

Household CRYAN, John 35 M Bradford VIEW  VIEW

Household CRYAN, John 10 M Bradford VIEW  VIEW

Household CRYAN, John 10 M Manchester VIEW  VIEW

Household CRYAN, John 6 M Manchester VIEW  VIEW

Household CRYAN, John 10 M Manchester VIEW  VIEW

Household CRYAN, Julia 3 F Bradford VIEW  VIEW

Household CRYAN, Lawrence 30 M Chorley VIEW  VIEW

 

Household CRYAN, Lawrence 2 M Chorley VIEW  VIEW

Household CRYAN, Margaret 0 F Bolton VIEW  VIEW

Household CRYAN, Margret 0 F Manchester VIEW

  VIEW

Household CRYAN, Margret 20 F Manchester VIEW

  VIEW

Household CRYAN, Mary 19 F Stockport VIEW  VIEW

Household CRYAN, Mary 30 F Chorley VIEW  VIEW

Household CRYAN, Mary 7 F Bolton VIEW  VIEW

Household CRYAN, Mary 2 F Manchester VIEW  VIEW

Household CRYAN, Mary 15 F Manchester VIEW  VIEW

Household CRYAN, Mary 24 F Manchester VIEW  VIEW

Household CRYAN, Mary 20 F Manchester VIEW  VIEW

Household CRYAN, Michael 60 M Stockport VIEW

  VIEW

Household CRYAN, Michael 15 M Stockport VIEW

  VIEW

Household CRYAN, Michael 10 M Manchester VIEW

  VIEW

Household CRYAN, Micheal 8 M Chorley

Household CRYAN, Nancy 5 F Manchester VIEW  VIEW

Household CRYAN, Patrick 40 M Manchester VIEW

  VIEW

Household CRYAN, Patrick* 35 M Bolton VIEW  VIEW

Household CRYAN, Peter 3 M Bolton VIEW  VIEW

Household CRYAN, Philip 60 M Camberwell VIEW

  VIEW

Household CRYAN, Sarah 40 F Manchester VIEW  VIEW

 

Household CRYAN, Sarah 7 F Manchester VIEW  VIEW

Household CRYAN, Thomas 25 M Sheffield VIEW  VIEW

 

Household CRYAN, Thomas 3 M Manchester VIEW  VIEW

 

Household CRYAN, Thomas 50 M Manchester VIEW

  VIEW

Household CRYAN, William 45 M Manchester VIEW

  VIEW

Household CRYAN, Winefred 20 F Manchester

 

 

Thu, 27 Sep 2007 09:09:29 -0700 (PDT)

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Subject: Re: [CRYAN] 1841 census

   

Hello, Caoimhghin O Croidheain!

 

This is very helpful. It gives me another place

 to

look!

 

It is great to hear from you again! I just saw on

 a

website for www.Leitrim-Roscommon.com that the

 Crean

(spelled your way) bishop's throne was found and

bought from the old cathedral at Elphin. It has

 the

inscription on it that is the family motto of the

    O

Croidheain clan .

 

I have found references to Bishop Andrew O'Crean

around 1584 and then Daniel O'Crean in 1586. I

 believe

they are related to John O'Crean and his daughter

Annabella O'Crean. This is my family --

 originally

from Sligo. Is there a place to find more

 information

about these Bishop Crean ancestors?

 

I can never find much about my more direct

 Napoleon B.

(Bryan or Bonaparte) Crean and his wife Ann

 (Lewis?).

They are listed in Dublin on the 1851 census -

 right

before they left for New York and then went to

Chicago, Illinois, USA. I wonder what information

could be on that census - like family, church

 records

for marriages, babies, etc. They had Charles in

 1850

and William in 1851, but I don't know the church

 name.

Eliza Crean came over with them on June 24, 1851

 with

the 2 infants. Catherine (1855, New York) and

 James

Thomas (Thomas J., 1859, Chicago, Illinois) were

 born

in the USA.

 

We do have Andrew Crean and Arthur Bryan Crean as

descendents, so I am thinking that this family

 was

from Sligo, then Mayo, then Dublin. Does anybody

 have

hints to finding this family?

 

There are Napoleon Crane names in England, but I

 don't

know what family that is. John is listed as the

 father

of some people called Napoleon.

 

 

 

cryan@rootsweb.com

Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 14:30:05 -0400

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Subject: Re: [CRYAN] 1841 census

   

 

Hi Nancy,

 

 

 

I have little information other then my

 GGGrandmother was Catherine Crean from Tawnalaughta, CO.

 Sligo.? The Creans come from that small little

 place and I assume they are related to the

 "Creans"?that were well known?

 

Catherine Crean Married William Farris in 1866.?

 I have baptismal info with Creans on it from that

 time if you need it.? Catherine Crean's father's

 name was Michael Crean and her mother was

 Cecilia McGowan.

 

I would love to be able to trace back from there

 but that's as far back as my relations can tell

 me.? I have varified this information with Sligo

 records.

 

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 All The Best,

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 Chris Kennedy

 

 

 

Thu, 27 Sep 2007 13:58:54 -0700 (PDT)

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Subject: Re: [CRYAN] 1841 census

   

Hi Nancy

 

Where on the www.Leitrim-Roscommon.com site did

 you

read about the throne?

 

Have you seen pics of the throne on my site?

http://geocities.com/caoimhghin/familyhistory.html

 

 

caoimhghin

 

 

Thu, 27 Sep 2007 17:45:36 -0700 (PDT)

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Subject: Re: [CRYAN] 1841 census

   

Chris,

 

My Creans are older than yours by a lot, but

 maybe

your Catherine Crean is a sister to my Napoleon

 Crean!

 

I have dug around to know enough that John

 O'Crean

showed up around 1500 and had a daughter Arabella

O'Crean. Some people think they were from Donegal

 and

were related to Vikings since they knew how to

 sail

ships. They were ship merchants who did busines

 with

the O'Hara merchants - I heard they were

 storekeepers.

My mother is a Crean and an O'Hara (double

 O'Hara),

and both families were from Sligo. We had a Lady

O'Hara who owned land and a Bishop Crean. I found

 2

Bishop O'Crean names. I have double O'Hara on one

 side

- maybe they married their cousins! One side is

O'Hara-Clanely and the other is O'Hara-Callaghan.

 They

came from Leitrim but said they were from Sligo

 and so

were the Crean family - pronounced CRAY-ON by the

 old

folk. In America it was spelled like it sounded -

Crane on the census in Illinois.

 

I have also found out about the Crean-Lynch

 family of

Ballino, Mayo. I can guess that they are related

 due

to their names are like our American names.

 

We also have a Mary Ann Dillon and Agnes Lally

  and

Arthur Decker buried with our Creans near

 Chicago,

Illinois. The headstone said Crean-Lewis.

 

These relatives are impossible to find!!!

 

I live near Chicago, IL, USA. Where are you

 located?

 

What I know I do have online, but I don't know

 much

about them.

 

I can add you to my ancestry family tree if you

 like.

I am not a professional researcher, but I have

 done

well just fooling around.

 

My mother was so totally Irish that I took her to

Ireland to find relatives, but we only saw the

 Crean

name on a store and O'Hara in the phone book. She

called strangers and tried to find relations.

 They

wanted to know if she was wealthy! She just

 wanted to

share her joy of being Irish!

 

Everywhere we went we saw President Kennedy's

 photo in

every bar in town! It made us feel at home.  Any

relation of yours?

 

Nancy

 

 

Thu, 27 Sep 2007 17:50:30 -0700 (PDT)

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Subject: Re: [CRYAN] 1841 census

   

WOW!

 

Dominick Crean's sons were sailors! All that

 family

lore is true! I also found a Lawrence Crean in

 Jamaica

who is probably related.

 

The O'Hara papers have documents from Lawrence

 Crean

to the O'Hara family. It belongs to the archives.

 I

don't know what it says. Do you?

 

Nancy

 

 

 

Thu, 27 Sep 2007 18:03:01 -0700 (PDT)

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Subject: Re: [CRYAN] 1841 census

   

Did you know that supposedly the Crean family

 kept the

Catholic Church supplied with priests in Ireland?

 

My family also did that in America - William

 Crean was

a Jesuit and he taught at Loyola University in

 New

Orleans, Louisiana.

 

Nancy

 

 

Thu, 27 Sep 2007 19:00:11 -0700 (PDT)

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Subject: Crean Boarding House in Dublin

To: caoimhghin@yahoo.com

   

I saw that the Crean family had a Crean boarding

 house

on a corner in Dublin.

 

My Napoleon and Ann Crean were in Dublin in 1851

 -

they are on the census.

 

How can I find out if they were staying at the

 Crean

house?

 

Nancy

 

 

 

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Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 23:12:38 EDT

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Subject: Re: [CRYAN] 1841 census

   

Hi Nancy,,

 

I live in New York.  All four of my grandparents

 came from Ireland in  the

1920's.  My maternal grandparents came from Sligo

 very close to the  Ballina,

Mayo border.  My mom still has several aunts(all

 in their 80's  & 90s) that live

in that area, we were just there this past May to

  visit.  I was lucky to

have known my Greatgrandparents when I was a boy

 we  went to Ireland  every

summer and stayed on their farm.  I am not a  pro

 at this either but I have been

accumulating information over the last twenty

  years.  My Granmothers sister who

is 93 told us this trip that she clearly

  remembers her Grandmother

Catherine(Katie) Crean and that her family were

 sea  merchants for generations.  On the

Baptismal list it has her brother  as Austin

 Crean, this is a very odd name

for this area.  I walked all the  cemeteries in

 the area and their are several

big Crean headstones.  I would  love to be added

 to your list as it may bring

me back several generations.   I can only go back

 to about 1800 as of this

moment.

 

PS- My Kennedy name comes from Limerick.  While

 we have no known  connections

to the Kennedy family from Massachusetts, I have

 just taken the  National

Geographic DNA test to see who I am connected to

 on the male  line.

 

                                                

                       ATB,

                                               

                       Chris

 

 

Fri, 28 Sep 2007 12:00:38 -0700 (PDT)

From:  "Nancy Fiore" <nancy_fiore@yahoo.com>  Add to Address Book  Add Mobile Alert 

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Subject: Re: [CRYAN] 1841 census

   

Chris,

 

Wow! When I started, I didn't know anything but

 the

last name and Ireland! You are lucky to really

 know

what you do!

 

My Catherine was known as Kate Crean and then

 Kate

Crane because the government wanted the census to

 be

by sound.

 

I drove my mother nuts with questions and then

 had to

put the puzzle together.

 

The name Austin Crean is in Chicago with the rest

 of

us! Thanks for the hint!

 

I am trying to get my male Crean relatives to do

 the

DNA test, but the older ones are too scared. Now

 I

need to convince the next generation about why

 this is

important!

 

Do you know of a Lewis related to a Crean?

 

Nancy

 

Fri, 28 Sep 2007 12:18:33 -0700 (PDT)

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Subject: re: Lawrence Crean 

To: "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>

   

Hi, Caoimhghin!

 

Are you located in Ireland?

 

If you are confused that is because my research

 is

done on the Internet and it is hit or miss.

 

No, I never saw your gravestone. I did hear that

 there

was a gravestone honoring Andrew Crean near Sligo

port. Maybe you could add that one and the

 Ballina

gravestone marker to your website! I also found a

Crogan website that seems to be our family.

 

I found the name Laurence or Lawrence Crean in

 Jamaica

by accident while looking over "The O'Hara

 Papers"

information. They are kept in Ireland with other

historical documents. I found a page where you

 can buy

them, but I don't really know how to get the

 paper I

want - there is a massive amount of information

 in

those papers. I have to search the Internet to

 find

it.I just want to know what Crean wrote to the

 O'Hara

family!

 

No, I don't have any proof of heritage in Ireland

 from

anywhere except my mother's memory and the

 Internet.

Everything she told me has turned out to be true

though. The Crean family were sea merchants and

 did

live in Sligo. I found 2 Bishop Crean. I found 2

 Lady

O'Hara and that family also was in Sligo and they

 did

own land there. I did find my Napoleon in Dublin

 and I

found his boat. He also traveled with Eliza

 Crean, who

is also listed in Dublin.

 

I have made a family tree, but it is not

 professional.

It is on ancestry. I can let you see it. I just

 use

the USA information from relatives and then find

 what

I can on the Internet. My tree is guess and

 conjecture

with a some facts and documents. Anything about

Ireland is guess or hearsay. Anything in USA is

 more

factual.

 

I only use the name Crean, which can also be

 spelled

Crane on USA records since the census takers did

 not

ask how names were spelled. They wanted to save

 time

and wrote down what they heard - Crane. In 1870,

 every

Crean named was listed as Crane but that is not

 the

way the people really spelled their names.

 

Nancy

 

 

Fri, 28 Sep 2007 12:58:04 -0700 (PDT)

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Subject: re: Lawrence Crean 

To: "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>

   

O'Hara Papers in NLI, p. 149

Laurence Crean of Jamaica, formerly of County

 Sligo MS

20,288, 3 items, c. 17777-1787 He wrote 3 letter

 to

Charles OHara the younger and it is about

 Laurence

Crean's will.

 

Also mentions Kean O'Hara in Jamaica in the

 index.

 

Here is the reference from www.rootsweb.com:

 

IRL-SLIGO-L Archives

 

Archiver > IRL-SLIGO > 2005-05 > 1115046374

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

 

 

From: MCasey863@aol.com

Subject: Re: [Sligo] O'Hara Papers in NLI

Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 11:06:14 EDT

 

 

In a message dated 5/1/2005 12:51:54 AM Eastern

Standard Time,

lacasita@pacbell.net writes:

 

 http://www.nli.ie/pdfs/mss%20lists/oharasligo.pdf

>

>

 

This link works!

 

 

 

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

 

This thread:

 

Re: [Sligo] O'Hara Papers in NLI by

 MCasey863@aol.com

 

RE: [Sligo] O'Hara Papers in NLI by "Laura Kaatz"

<lkaatz@sprintmail.com>

O'Hara Papers in NLI ctd. by Bill McGee

<wfmcgee@sympatico.ca>

Re: [Sligo] O'Hara Papers in NLI ctd. by Nancy

 Fiore

<nancy_fiore@yahoo.com>

Re: [Sligo] O'Hara Papers in NLI by RODSGENEALOGY

<RODSGENEALOGY@COX.NET>

Re: [Sligo] O'Hara Papers in NLI by "J. R. Egan"

<jegan1@san.rr.com>

Re: [Sligo] O'Hara Papers in NLI by Nancy Fiore

<nancy_fiore@yahoo.com>

 

 

 

 

 

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Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 16:11:04 EDT

To: cryan@rootsweb.com

Subject: Re: [CRYAN] 1841 census

   

Hi Nancy,

 

Do you actually have an Austin Crean in your tree

 in Chicago?  I have  the

Irish phone book from 2007, I will look up any

 Crean/Crane/Cryan and let you 

know as they may be of interest to you.

 

Names connected to my Creans are McGowan,

 Kilcullen, Farris, Brady, Murray, 

Carty, Forde, Egan.  I have no Lewis' and I have

 never seen that name in  this

neck of the woods.  This was a very rural part of

 Ireland.

 

                                               

                             

                                        Regards,

                                               

                             

                                        Chris

 

 

Fri, 28 Sep 2007 14:31:22 -0700 (PDT)

From:  "Nancy Fiore" <nancy_fiore@yahoo.com>  Add to Address Book  Add Mobile Alert 

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Subject: Re: [CRYAN] 1841 census

   

Hi, Chris.

 

Do you have any other first names of anyone named

Crean?

 

Do you have any Carey?

 

I thought that I saw that name and some other

 unusual

ones. I would have to look again.

 

Look over this website:

http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cregan/surname.htm

 

Nancy

 

Fri, 28 Sep 2007 14:31:56 -0700 (PDT)

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Subject: re: Lawrence Crean 

To: "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>

    

Try this website:

 

http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cregan/surname.htm

 

 

 

Fri, 28 Sep 2007 15:32:35 -0700 (PDT)

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Subject: Re: [CRYAN] 1841 census

   

Chris,

 

Yes, I have Austin Crane and his marriage

 records.

When in doubt, aim for Illinois. We are loaded

 with

Crean, which is spelled Crane on census records.

 We

also have Crain.

 

For old records, including Austin Crane, see

 this:

http://www.cyberdriveillinois.com/departments/archives/marriage.html

 

 

Fri, 28 Sep 2007 15:36:15 -0700 (PDT)

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Help from the great state of Illinois, USA

 

http://www.iltrails.org/ilrehelp.htm

 

 

 

Fri, 28 Sep 2007 17:23:57 -0700 (PDT)

From:  "Sean Crean" <sfcrean@yahoo.com>  Add to Address Book  Add Mobile Alert 

To: cryan@rootsweb.com,  nancy_fiore@yahoo.com

Subject: Re: [CRYAN] 1841 census

   

Hi Nancy,

 

Great reading the exchanges between you, Chris

 and

Caoimhghin.

 

If you've been on Caoimhghin's site then you must

 have

seen the photo of Dominic Crean's grave in Sligo

 Abbey

that I took a couple of years ago while visiting

 and

researching the family.

 

My branch of the Creans left Sligo and came to

 Belfast

in the 1830-40's

 

Do you actually have documentation linking you to

Lawrence Crean in Jamaica?  You'll see on the

 grave

that the stone was erected by Dominic's son James

Crean(of Jamaica).

 

My great Uncle (now deceased) had done some

 research

before he passed away in 1951. I recently found

 my

Great-grandfather Patrick's record of birth

 (circa

1841) in Belfast. His father was a James Crean

 and the

family oral history for us and through

 documentation

is that our Belfast Crean's migrated from Sligo

 up

there. My father was brought to the states in

 1922 as

a baby. My great-grandfather also was in the

 shipping

business in Belfast with his brother Michael.

 

There are several books that give good history of

 the

Crean's but not enough to piece a straight line

 just

yet.

 

First is Woodmartin's "History of Sligo". Second

 is "

The History of Sligo Town & County" by Archdeacon

O'Rourke. The third is "Power, Politics & Land -

 Sligo

1568-1688" by Mary O'Dowd. John Mc Ternan has a

 couple

of books on Sligo that recap from Woodmartin &

O'Rourke on the O'Crean history.  Finally the

 Annals

of the Four Masters first mentions the family in

Donegal in 1498 and it is here that most scholars

believe the roots of the family started prior to

migrating to Sligo where their fame and infamy

 gets

its greatest press!

 

My research has been put on hold for the past few

years but should you come up with anything else,

 I'll

be happy to share as my time allows.

 

Sean Crean

Rear Admiral, USN

 

 

Sun, 30 Sep 2007 17:50:26 -0700 (PDT)

From:  "Nancy Fiore" <nancy_fiore@yahoo.com>  Add to Address Book  Add Mobile Alert

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Subject: Re: [Cryan et al.] Pronouncing Crean, Crane, Cryan, Craon, Crayon - 2 syllables

To: "Caoimhghin O Croidheain" <caoimhghin@yahoo.com>

   

I found out that my family pronounced the Crean

 name

with 2 syllables. Like Cre-an or Cray-on.

 

They were from Sligo. In America in Illinois, it

 was

spelled Crean, and then Crane mostly. We also

 have

Crain.

 

Nancy